Green Light with Chris Long - Sauce Gardner! New York Jets Defense, Playing Madden & Aaron Rodgers' Return! Caitlin Clark, Justin Jefferson & Drug Mailbag!

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

A fun Monday episode filled with your favorite GLP folks. Chris and Nate kick things off and talk about Chris' new favorite song and potentially playing cricket then get into some sports news including Caitlin Clark and the WNBA, Justin Jefferson's new deal, Darren Waller and Jabari Parker. Sauce Gardner then joins Chris and Macon to talk about the Jets season outlook, practicing against Aaron Rodgers, playing Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle of the Dolphins, his favorite marketing deals and the new look New York Jets jerseys. We finish with Chris and Fax entertaining a mailbag that results in Fax challenging Chris to a Price is Right contest. (00:00) - One Pound Fish Layup Line, Cricket & Secrets of Your Gut Health (15:00) - Caitlin Clark and the WNBA (25:13) - Justin Jefferson's New Extension in Minnesota (32:43) - Sports Round Up (40:56) - Sauce Gardner on the New York Jets, Practicing vs Aaron Rodgers, Playing Madden, Learning New NFL Rules & Being the Calming Presence on the NYJ Defense (1:12:40) - Chris' James River Challenge (1:18:30) - Drug Infused Mailbag with a Price is Right and Hello Appearance Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How did you rally around each other as the season went on? Because it wasn't what you expected to be. When it came to the outcome of the game, if it's one of those games like when we lost and we felt like things could be different, then obviously it will be demoralizing or whatever. But when you're in the heat of the moment, it's like you want to go out there

and be able to show the world why you're the best. You know, we want to be able to go out there and show the world why we're the best defense in the NFL. You know, and that's just how we used to think about it. But when the outcome used to be us losing, then we obviously will get to talking about other things. But, you know, like, I always want to be able to go out there on the field and compete. Welcome to Green Lights podcast, man. Thanks for tuning in today.

We've got Chris. We've got Nate, Dr. Fax Collins. We got Macon. And it's all sprinkled with a little sauce. Chris and Nate kicked things off. We do a little sports roundup, talk what's going on, Justin Jefferson's record setting deal. Caitlin Clark and the issues in the WMBA and Chris's new favorite video. It's going to be layup line, so you'll hear it first thing.

And then we welcome on the New York Jets sauce Gardner. He joins Chris and Macon. They have a great conversation talking about the New York Jets. Sauce going against Aaron Rogers and practice every day, Sauce's favorite marketing deals. And Chris breaks the offseason schedule change news to Sauce. And then to end things, Chris has a special idea from floating the river so much. Nate challenges Chris to a little prices right.

And we recap North Korea's very special delivery to South Korea. Enjoy today's show. Make sure to check it all out on YouTube. And we will catch you on Friday. Ladies, come on ladies. Come on ladies. Come on ladies. Come on ladies.

Have I have a look, one pound fish. Have I have a look, one pound fish. Very, very good. One pound fish. Very, very cheap. One pound fish. Six, four, five, one pound each. Come on ladies.

Come on ladies. One pound fish. One pound fish. That's my layup line. You never heard that song? No, man. See you showed me. Okay.

Nate's, it's really good. The guy's like, it's a viral video. there's this Indian gentleman in a presumably Indian. I don't know. I don't know where he's from, but he's somewhere close to there. And he is selling fish. And the dude is like, honestly, I think he made a hit. Like, I hope he's getting royalties for this clip because I think somebody could like

chop and screw this or sample it and come up with a really killer hook. You know I'm a marketing guy. I know. I'm hoping overall at this man. I have a drink. Nate said marketing. I hope that he has a line around the block for his stand. Looks like he's marketing for a fish stand.

I would definitely buy a fish on a fish on this guy. You can't buy a fish. It's just for the ladies. For the ladies. So anyways, I got my kids like into singing this song. And they don't know any better. Like we pull up to Darden Tau Saturday. We were taking them to the river, right?

And so like next to the path down to the river, there's a big field in the back, like all the way in the back. and we pull up and all these dudes are playing cricket. Have you seen these guys playing cricket? So many. I've sat out there and a bunch of indie dudes playing cricket. And I'm just sitting there watching. I'm like kids, this is so cool.

And like I'm unloading the boat and we're watching these guys play cricket. And they're just outside of earshot. And my kids, I guess they've got this thing stuck in their head and they're just going, one pound fish. And I'm like, bro, not right now. Like, I don't know if you're putting. two to get two together but these guys are Indian and so is the guy in the video we can't be singing one pound fish around a bunch of cricketers that is hilarious so yeah yeah i've contemplated

asking those cricket guys like i did if i can play if they would if they would teach me and we can like like and i was scared and my girl told me she was like you're a punk because i was like i was like i wonder if i asked them if they would teach me it looks so fun i just it's confusing like No, it's not. They just watching. I just don't understand, like, the outfield. One pound fish. Very, very good.

One pound fish. Very, very nice. Six pound, five pound. This guy was, he was flowing, dude. And anyways, I talked to the OG cricket guy. He walked off, this guy with a gray mustache. He was like the older cat. Yeah.

I said, can I come out here and play one day? Like, I was this big white guy with a shirt off in a kayak in my hand. I'm like, I would love to swing that bat. Can I hold the bat? He handed me the bat. The bat felt great. Oh, yeah.

Like, yeah, it really does feel like he had me. I was holding a ball. I could see how they hit the ball a long way. Like, dude, hit it all the way up the hill. Yeah. The ball is really bouncy. So we need to get some cricket content. You go out and play.

Hey, it's just like softball. See, ball hit ball. It looks easier than softball. Yeah. It's more popular globally than football. Well, it's more popular internationally than almost anything. cricket, you know? It's a big deal. It's funny.

They're having the world games in the United States this year, in New York. That's what the guy told me. So it's funny that there's things, just sports and just things in general, like we're saying. That's like one of the most popular sports and it's nothing, though. Like, I've never watched a full cricket match. Yeah. Nor do I understand. Let's get into it.

Yeah. Let's get into it. We can go out and play. We'll go out and play one day. Speaking of fish, guys, there is a guys and ladies. There is a documentary that you need to see. It's on Netflix. It's called Hack Your Health.

It's like it's something about your guts. The Secrets of Your Gut. Hack, okay, it's called Hack Your Health, the Secrets of Your Gut. It's a documentary. It came out this year. It's on Netflix. The other night, I sat down and watched this thing, and I think it's a game changer. I really do.

Okay. Do you know what a microbiome is? I'm going to poorly explain. it. Oh, man. You know, like, good bacteria, like gut bacteria. Like, you need good bacteria in your gut. You know, the, for a long time. Are you about to kill, like, a full, full group? Yes. Well, they're going to kill themselves if they don't watch this documentary. So, you know, in, um, in Team America World Police where the guy's like, I promise I'll never die. Only if you could promise me, you'll never die. You know I can't promise that. If you did that,

I would make love to you right now. I promise. I will never die. I kind of felt that way after I finished with this documentary because it's all about eating for not only like the way you feel, but longevity. Okay. And it's all about like your microbiome, which is a collection of bacteria, like gut bacteria that you get from all different types of whole foods.

And if you're not getting the right combinations or the right variety of gut bacteria or just enough gut bacteria, your stomach is going to eat itself. Because if that bacteria is not present, the stomach eats itself. And all of a sudden, what you got is all these inflammatory diseases popping up, cancers. You know, it can affect your heart. It can affect your brain. And you talk about all the energy that your brain needs to run. I mean, that organ is running constantly, right?

So it needs a lot of the right gut bacteria to run properly. Same thing with, you know, heart health. And obviously when you have the inflammatory diseases like cancer that pop up, it's your body's eating itself and sending help and putting a defense mechanism up that eventually turns into a disease. So I'm watching this documentary. It was just eye opening. Most of it for me, this is the part I've taken so far.

Dietary fiber, we don't get enough of it. Do you get enough dietary fiber? Do you even look? I used to take fiber pills, but I think, I think I ran out. Dietary fiber. Okay. You need to get fiber from whole foods. And I swear to you, the past four or five days, I've been tinkering with my diet.

I've been trying to take what I learned in this documentary and get a variety of whole foods in my diet, especially dietary fiber, early in the day. You're saying whole foods, not like the store, just a whole, like individual food. Before whole foods, there were whole foods. Okay. Okay. And we're talking about things like beans, like pinto beans or whole grains or yogurt. Or, you know, like a lot of the things that you... When you say whole grains, like...

Like whole grain bread. Or, you know, like, you could also add in some quinoa. Or some, you know, flaxseed chia. Like, I'm putting that in some yogurt in the morning with some blueberries. I'm eating a fucking handful of broccoli in the morning. I'm eating some cauliflower with lunch. Fucking chia pit. I'm throwing a plum in.

Every now and again, I'm throwing in my plums. I'm feeling in my plums. And I feel tremendous, dude. Can't you tell I feel great? Right? I can't tell. Can't you tell? Yes. So after watching this documentary,

I just want to be around, man. Other than that, like, are you changing anything major in your... Is there anything that you've seen in the documentary that you're like, you know what? I'm going to try my hardest to stay away. No, for me, I've always been a really healthy eater. Okay. Right? The things I'm staying away from are like the industrial foods, like the food industry foods,

like the stuff that you go to things in packages that say organic, but they're not organic. I've always stayed away from like high sugar stuff. They trick you into thinking something's organic and has like 70 grams of sugar. This is a coincidence because my girl, she recently has really been on a tear of visiting all the local farmers market because she really wants to work on getting like real food. Local meat. It's like processed and everything on the farm here. But it's just expensive.

It is expensive, which is one of the biggest problems with the food industry. And I get it. And some people are listening. like I can't skimp for like organic vegetables or that sort of thing. Well, you just might have to move some things around. You know how much a meal out costs? Like just don't go out to eat. You know, just shop for whole foods and set yourself up so you can get, you have access

to them quickly and efficiently. And listen, I have a budget where I can spend whatever I want on food. But it hasn't been crazy. It's not like I'm spending a lot more money. It's just I'm being more intentional about what I'm putting in my body. Carrots up here on the picture, carrots have a lot of dietary fiber. seaweed has a lot of dietary fiber like almonds there's all types of foods that like if you just know the foods and i know it's not boiled down to just dietary fiber don't get me wrong if somebody else

saw this documentary and they're like christ you're butchering it i got like 25 minutes left but the biggest thing that i took away was like i need more dietary fiber and it's not man i pinched a loaf off so clean jesus yesterday it was like yes it's crazy i've been eating chia pudding or chia with almond pudding and been very regular and some people are going to say scoff at this and think it's some like weird hippie diet where you can't eat meat or that sort of thing no we're just eating like people are intended to eat we for thousands of years we're eating whole foods and then all of a sudden the food industry comes along and fucks with everything it fucks up your microbiome bro so i was tending to my my microbiome that's why i was late i really i take now i'm taking time to

prepare and lay out like a nice meal like a meal for me now is like it's a weapon you know what i mean it's like fuel rather than like oh I'm hungry I have to eat what kind of fuel do I want to put in my body I've always thought that way but now I'm tinkering with a little bit I think everybody should see this damn documentary that's only if you want to live a long time now I could get hit by a truck tomorrow and you'd be like how about that dietary fiber Chris but like I just want to eliminate some of these inflammatory diseases player you know I feel you so I'm just free game for anybody listening to podcast go watch this Netflix dog I sent it to max

Cream. I'm going to check it out. It's so funny. Like Maxo Cream comes in town. He's a gangster rapper and like he, you know, we work out with him. You can tell he's into fitness a little bit and I'm like, I'm going to send you some, some advice and that sort of thing. I think he's thinking I'm going to send him like the right creatine products and that sort of thing. I wrote him like a five page

Bill Walton style text message the other night that was like, hey, this is kind of nerdy, but you got to check out this documentary. You really got to work on your microbiome, man. He probably looked at them. He was like, what the fuck? But if he watches the documentary, he's going to understand it really is uh it really is interesting cobiashi's in that thing oh yeah so he's one of the

four people that they follow oh and try to help their diet and obviously cobiashy's microbiome is like a it's like a war zone dude you know what i mean this glizzy just flying down there crazy speaking of japanese war zones uh godzilla minus one is now out in color on uh on Netflix and my wife watch it again? My wife and I watched the first half last night. It was better in black and white. Oh, wow. Okay. I got to check it out in black and white. I mean, in black and white, it's incredible. But hey, guys, gals, two things on Netflix. You got to watch right now. Hack your health. Hack your health. And then you need to watch Godzilla's little minus one. Unfortunately, it's not out in black and white yet, but she's enjoying it so far.

Hey, real quick, before we get into a little bit of sports, I just wanted to wish everybody a happy pride month. I can tell that it is very controversial to wish anybody a happy prize month. I can tell that it is very controversial to wish anybody a happy pride month this week well go online oh and look at some of these all i'm saying is it's 24 and i feel like we've gotten more homophobic and i'm looking at you know these pro sports teams you know they do their happy pride month just like they do happy like there's a month in a day for everything now and people's heads are exploding like clayton bigsby like in the front row you know what i mean and people are people are going nuts on there and i just wanted to tell people i'm not here to argue with those people if you're afraid of gay people that's one thing but i just wanted you know

if you're gay and you listen to this show i'm not afraid of you and and i'm happy you're listening and i hope you're living your best life absolutely you said like it's really that easy um yeah and especially shout out to my sister in her way pride month to another touchy subject women's basketball i love it all right i don't want to lose my place i wrote some things down here i really thought about this stuff. All right. Because it is a slow news day. I'm not acting like I'm some big WMBA fan, like ground floor or anything.

And that's the thing I keep noticing is that people want to gatekeep this sport. I'm not going to name any names because there's more than one person doing it. But it feels to me like when somebody says, yo, it looks like there's a little extra mustard on these fouls with Caitlin Clark, which pretty much anybody would say. Like, I'm not here up in arms about it. I'm not here acting like she's getting assaulted or people should press charges on these players. Like they're giving her the rookie treatment.

and then some, right? Yeah. But the thing I don't like is the gatekeeping. You can't gatekeep a sport that for the first time has a line out the door. Yeah. Like, that's just a weird look to me. And I'm not a big, like, I don't like gatekeeping sports anyways. But just because somebody hasn't been watching the W for 10 years, doesn't mean they can't

comment on it. And if that's how you want to be, then I'll just get back to not watching the W. Yeah. Which has been the way I've operated for 39 years. And the weird thing about it, yeah, the weird thing about it is, off of what you're saying, that's the, that's the feeling that I get when you hear all these people get mad about people having an opinion of what's going on. Yeah.

And I think it's, I think it's, the reasons are twofold. And it's a complicated deal. Yeah. And a lot of times the person commenting on it gets lumped in with a bunch of other people. I just want to say, I'm not, I'm not outraged. It's a fucking basketball game. Okay. Somebody got knocked down.

Somebody, Angel Reese got clothesline the other day. Yeah. But it keeps happening to Caitlin Clark. And as your gatekeeping the sport, if you're going to, if you're going to say, hey, it's not personal what these, what these gals are doing. Maybe wait until the chick from Texas A&M who knocked over Caitlin Clark the other day comments on it. Because from the comments, it seemed to me that it was personal. Personal. So just call it what it is.

It's personal. They don't like this girl. As much as bad as people are reacting to me. But if you don't want me to be here, I'll go somewhere else because I got plenty of football to talk about. It's great. It's great for the game. You can have the W.

It's great. It's great for the W. Like, people are watching it. People are commenting on it. I think this girl Carter, I think, like, NBA, we have bad guys. We talk about Dremont all the time. Dremont doing crazy. He put Rudy Gobert in a fucking chokehold, bro.

I still think about that. That's in an NBA game. Yeah. He puts someone in a wrestling chokehold. And we're talking. about this right now. It was a body. It was a body check.

It's a body check. It's not the end of the world. Dirty? Yes. Dirty place happened in sports. Yo, I talk to you guys all about this all the time. I think being able to throw a baseball at someone in baseball because you're mad at the way they bat flipped or something like that is absurd.

This is a body check. I understand, but they throw baseballs at anybody who shows up the pitcher. And it seems to me, unless you want to show me a bunch of Maya Moore footage of her of her getting decked to rookie years. No, they have footage. They have footage of Candace Parker, I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure.

I'm sure. So then take it up with your employer, a lot of the people keep in this thing because your employers are the media aggregates that are pushing this stuff out to popularize the game. So like I'm not here, but has it happened before? It does look like there's a little extra muster with her.

And especially after the game when the girl's like, what does she do? She doesn't do anything but shoot threes. You know, whether that, that's, You got to think about it too. It's just like, hey, I, I want my clout right now. This might, this might parlay into me maybe getting some, some, some marketing deals down the, you can play the bad guy role and play it the right way if you are putting up points and stats like Carter is doing on a nightly basis. So it's something where this will all blow over.

This will all blow over. And I think the game will be better that everyone kind of has eyes on it. I just want to say this, though. Well, two things. First, do you think I'm crazy to think it has a little bit to do with white chick? No, like it's, I feel like here in America, like, it's a lot of times the undertone of a lot of things when it gets big. Is it, is it a white and black thing? Or is it a black and black thing? Or is it a white on white? Because I think this, I think there are a bunch of people who don't give a shit about women's basketball, who, and you could probably accuse me of being one of those people. but but i am not the person that's here to like do you know find justice for the poor white girl

katelyn clark but what i am here to say is like let's call it what it is yeah and also like it's just it's just as disingenuous for me for people to show up and make this their crusade this is not going to be a crusade this going to be like five minutes on this show but to make this their crusade it's just as as intellectually dishonest to do mental gymnastics to deny that there is a little extra mustard on this stuff hey now she's not the only one don't i say but but But explain this to LeBron James and Matt Barnes. You know what I'm saying? Exactly.

Hey, because they're the one, because, hey, listen, I, and Charles Barkley, they must not know anything about basketball. You know what I mean? So now you're fan-splaining to Charles Barkley, Matt Barnes, and LeBron James, and you're gatekeeping. And to me, like, that's just, like, it's a weird energy to, if you're, if you're, hey, there are plenty of shows. in fact most of the media griff saw football okay they don't know what the fuck's going on yeah they're not watching tape they're just commenting and if we were to say hey only people that really know the game and have been following it for a long time and i'm not just talking about casually following it yeah i'm talking about as a media member consuming the game what goes into understanding football is a lot

right to truly understand it i don't gatekeep You know what I'm saying? Like it's good for the game that everybody's talking about the game. And so what WMBA fans need to decide is do we want fans? Do we not want fans? How do we want to attract these fans? Because right now, this is controversy. Yeah.

And it is good for the league and a quick pop. But what it says to me is that people aren't coming to watch the game or talk about the game. This is what it takes for people to talk about the game. I think it's all new and they just have to adjust to it. Yeah. They don't realize that any attention ultimately is good attention, whether it's good or bad. In any league, it ends up being that way. And it's kind of like how you bounce back off of the attention, whether it's good or bad.

And this is a situation where maybe this will keep eyes on the game more for the rest of the season, even if it is people following Caitlin Clark. And yeah, you're going to have some people that are going to love that. And then some people are going to hate on it because they feel like, oh, I should have been the person. I should be the person that the reason why they're watching. I score. I shoot threes just like her. I do this. But ultimately, you're getting the look.

So you got to make the most of it. You can't ignore the elephant in the room. The elephant in the room has been race with this Caitlin Clark story. Not only her greatness, but like the LSU, Iowa thing. I mean, that was like, and people did a good job of just enjoying the game. But the undertones were there. It was like a lot of people were picking sides based on one thing or another. I was picking sides based on who I bet, like I do with every other sport.

Is he the female, Larry? Larry Bird? Yeah. I don't want to go as far as saying that. But I'm just saying. I think Larry, Larry's a lot of, like that whole thing with him was all race. I do. I do.

Like, hey. Magic Johnson and him. Yeah, there was a big. You know what I'm saying? But Larry gave it back a lot. Like Larry, Larry was a motherfucker. Oh, no. And I think that's what I was going to say.

David Clark's a motherfucker. No, that's what I was. say my advice is, yo, next time you play that girl, yo, you plan on getting a flagrant one on her. You throw an elbow. You kind of show because that's how you're going to get that respect. Yeah. Like people, if you get bullied at some point,

if you stand up to your bully and fight back, whether you win or lose, they're probably going to respect you. Be like, you know what? I'm done with them. And Larry Bird always stood up for himself. Like when the Sixers jumped him in 81, he punched Dr. J in the face.

No, exactly. And I think, What's what the difference is. It was also. Caitlin seems to want to be respectful. Play hard. You can tell she's out there, John, and like that sort of thing. And hey, listen, maybe these two had something going on in the whole game and Caitlin

said something foul. I don't watch the W. But this came across my desk. And if you don't like me seeing this shit or forming an opinion on it, tell your employers to stop showing the WMBA only when Caitlin Clark's involved or when she's getting knocked on the fucking ground. An Indiana fever. Sign an enforcer, please.

Like when the NBA was super physical, when Michael Jordan's getting knocked down, they signed Charles Oak. Rousie. I don't know. All I'm saying is... I hope at some point, I hope next year that this girl Carter is going to end up on the fever, and she'll be Caitlin Clark's enforcer for the start of her career. I love that, though.

Hey, there's nothing personal about it. This is just basketball. 12 hours later. Yeah, I hate that bitch. Like up at the podium. Like that's, I'm paraphrasing, but, but that. So, so, so, so it's just, it's, it's, it's one of those, it's one of those things that everybody's going to have an opinion.

It's, we're, and there's no way to know what the intent is, but if I'm being somebody who's trying not to be naive, it's amazing. The lengths will go to assume somebody's intent, but in this situation, it's just basketball. It is personal. And part of that might be her stardom. Part of it might be where she played, where she came from. Part of it might be her paid job a little bit. I'm just saying, dude.

It doesn't make me mad. I don't care. But we're filling the time. And if you don't want us to watch the W, there's plenty of sports on. The other thing is Justin Jefferson, who got paid, man. And good for Justin Jefferson. He really does seem like if we had more stars like Justin Jefferson, the game would be in a better place. I mean, the game's in a great place.

but this guy seems to be just the genuine article came out of college people talking about he's probably a slot guy like i don't know if he can play out he's like the fifth or six wide receiver drafted eagles fans know that well um last year he turns down a deal for 28 mil a year i think wisely right because obviously right now he got paid 35 million a year but if you look at the wide receivers that got paid last year it was like um devante parker parker police Raymond. Yeah. Matthew Slater.

Equamanius, St. Brown. These are not blue chip wide receivers. So if you're Justin Jefferson and you're looking at 28 mil a year and all the security comes with it, oh, what if I get hurt? Yada, yada, yada, it's kind of risky to bet on myself. No, it's not because he bet on himself and he missed seven games. And he still got the bag, dude. The only way he would have passed that up and not gotten the deal.

He got in the deal. He got in a fucking car accident. Okay. Like, my man is one of the. best players in the league and that's why it's reflected in his contract is being the highest non-paid quarterback in the league and he edges out nick bosa for that title you know so i i think the viking's coming into the draft the reason you do this post draft you're looking at a whole host of uh you know variables it could be roma dunza falls to us it could be more precisely i think

neighbors falling to us might might dictate that we do something else with justin jefferson but they made the adjustment on the fly they probably had two plans two plans of action one being hey there's a possibility we deal this guy if we get the wide receiver we want and we we you know we shed that that big contract and we get cheap labor in the building or if we don't get the guy we like this is a pretty good burden hand and doesn't hurt to pay a guy like this because he's a great team player he's for the most part kept healthy i mean last year uh and there's not been a situation where you can't get him to football. I mean, I'm talking about backup quarterbacks, Josh Dobbs. It could be Nick Mullins. He's still going to find this guy. And so for a young quarterback like JJ McCarthy, who's not

expensive, who you didn't even pick him in the top five on the rookie pay scale, you had this wide receiver and it works out. I just think it was really wise of them to wait a year because now you're in the in the thick of all these talks when it comes to Jamar Chase, Cedley Lamb. In Dallas, you're talking about Dak Prescott, Michael Parsons. Micah Parsons is excited about this deal he probably wants to be one of the highest paid non-quarterbacks in the league he probably wants to be the highest paid non-quarterback in the league and for jemar chase and c v lamb and the other receivers it's a game of chicken now it's like all right who's going first yeah wait as long as you can because you can make a couple more mill depending on who goes right before you now i don't know

that anybody's going to make more than him right because he's just another level but these are relevant numbers to the guys who are sitting around and watching this come across the ticker today like fly on the wall, what are these guys thinking when they see this? And what's Justin Jefferson thinking when he watches the year go on and sees all this, this momentum built up towards like a bunch of guys are going to get paid? And I could be right in the mix here and probably break the bank. So good for him. I love that coach up there. I think O'Connell is one of the brightest offensive minds in the game. He's already proven that. And if this quarterback's worth his salt at all, this guy's going to continue to have a big, big career in Minnesota. And the irony here is like Kirk Cousins sub-elite, right? Like he's a really good

quarterback. He's a franchise quarterback. But we haven't seen the ceiling with this guy yet. And I don't know that J.J. McCarthy is going to be the guy that delivers the ecosystem where you can realize that ceiling. But if J.J. McCarthy is a pretty good player, they're going to be happy they get this thing done. It does make you understand why there was such a run on first round wide receivers. Like Marvin Harrison's going to make in four years about the same amount as Justin Jefferson will make in one season. Exactly. And, you know, as we talked about recently with these wide receivers pushing up into the 30 mill a year echelon, like there has to be some, some, like there has to be a line in the sand where you say, you're not one of those guys. You know, I don't think the wide receiver market should just continue to escalate for everybody. But for these guys, a Justin Jefferson, like a Nick Bosa, it's not really dictated by the wide receiver market. market, but it can dictate the wide receiver market. And so good for Justin Jefferson.

Good for the Vikings. It's going to be an exciting, exciting division. You talk about all the offensive firepower potentially in that division. I mean, Green Bay's got a whole fucking station wagon full of young wide receivers. Right. It might be my new team. Green Bay is fun. They're going to be fun this year.

You talk about Justin Jefferson, Minnesota, Roma Dunzee, and Keenan Allen and Cole command and the running backs they have. there and the excitement around Caleb Williams and then Detroit is obviously a wagon and Ben Johnson just was up at the podium talking about why he stayed and handicapped that probably five of the new hires are gone within the next three years and that's why he stayed is like he his goal is to get that second contract and he sees what they got going on in Detroit so this is going to be I think one of the most fun divisions in recent history and and we're getting bears hard knocks we're in bears hard knocks that's gonna be great you're excited for yeah it's gonna be great right it's gonna be

great so uh listen bears fans i know yeah i had you at seven wins in that in that um in that like schedule release hey rapid fire win loss win loss i give you nine oh i give you nine and you'll still be mad because you think you get to skip the steps like you don't wait 30 years for for jesus to appear and play quarterback for you and then it just happens overnight i mean i guess if it was Jesus, it would. But like other teams have to wait in line. And I know you've been waiting a long time, but like then once you get in the theme park, like there's a, there's a, you still have to wait in line for the, for the, for the rides. Okay. It's not going to just change overnight. If it does, God bless you. You got a special one. Even with everything around him,

it's just really hard to take off immediately. You know, I was talking about in the schedule release show. I was like, I think they lose Tennessee week one. And people are scoffing at me. I'm like, this is the NFL, man. Like, we opened up our title defense down in Tampa Bay and got thumped by the Buccaneers, dude. Not a good football team. And Levis looks good. Okay, and Levis has looked better,

and I think they've had a really quietly efficient offseason. I think they are making moves to try to win, just like the Bears. So why are you special? You know, all these games are tough. Because Caleb, the hype. Right, exactly. Got to believe the hype.

And we thought Will Levis was just, guy who ate mayonnaise and was too muscle bound to throw football and he's been pretty good so we're not always right before the draft doing more than that yeah moving rate a law yeah we'll love us he's uh he had an interesting week a couple weeks ago did he yeah um anyways i just there's a couple football uh items there and oh yeah now we have darren waller here what's he doing in this video oh man i i i personally love his music you like the music no no no i don't i don't like the music yeah i like the music rollout that he is doing right now marketing yes for what for his single and his music and people to look and know that hey i'm about to finish football and now i'm going to take this music thing somewhat

seriously and this is what you have to do with that. Somewhat seriously. I mean, this is what you have to do nowadays. He put a lookalike of his ex-wife in his video. A look-alike? A look-alike. I don't think so. Didn't look at that much like that.

Exactly. I don't think so. Exactly. That's racist. No. I think it's all part of the marketing. Like it purposely got like a fake look-alike so that it can get more. She did have dark hair.

Now, like, All right, I'm not going to comment on whether there's plenty of music that I don't listen to and I'm not going to, you know, sit here and give it. No, I'm just not a, that's not my type of music. But if it, but good marketing. Do you think he knew that Trump was getting convicted of like 34 counts the same day he put out the song? Because I feel like if I were marketing, I might pick another day. Now, if I just wanted to hide the music, I'm putting it out like as they read the verdict, which is kind of how I felt it went down. No, I definitely don't feel like it's that.

Because you see it in every headline now. And now he's talking about retiring. Yeah. And now in every headline talking about him retiring, they're mentioning his music. You know what the Giants said? What? Because after June 1st, they save 11 mil if he retires or they cut him. So he just said, like, take some time out and he'll.

And they were like, just come back after June. Why don't we talk again, June 2nd? You go go lay that track. Wait, so if he retires before and after. Brian Debel was like, go lay that track, man. Yeah, yeah, go do that. Yeah, go do that. Just come back June 2nd.

We'll talk about it. No, so we're past that June 1st, you know, date in the calendar, and now the Giants are going to save some cash. What a trade by the Raiders. That really worked out. I think they got killed over that trade in the beginning. What are the Raiders doing? You're sending away.

This is the thing. That was probably the start of the end. Sometimes people can see the iceberg coming. You know, and sometimes we don't know what's going on inside the building. And you know the guy's got health issues and the whole thing, you know, like durability issues. And he, at his best, he was really great. But if you think about Darren Waller, who was a star in our game, there's a lot of stars that his story, obviously some of the tribulations were self-imposed. And, you know, like he had to grow through that.

But it took some years to get to a place where we could see what Darren Waller had, right? And by the time he's there, the sad part is like you're older, you're, you're, you're in like the prime of your career and that goes by fast. Unless you're a Hall of Famer, that prime goes by fast. Unless you're lucky, healthy, or a Hall of Famer for guys like, this is just how fast it goes. Like the Darren Waller era is kind of over. Yeah.

Right? And it felt like he was one of the best players in the game. And it just happened so fast. And part of it is because the run on his career took a while because of what he put himself through and i don't think he'd rather have it any other way because obviously he's doing really well and you know he's making music and he's yeah we've had him on the show he seems like a great dude he's cleaned his life up but yeah it takes time to heal no yeah for sure speaking of healing and taking time just to switch it to a different sport did you see the um jubari parker no what happened where where um

the reporter had asked him he had just finished his first season overseas and the reporter had asked him like how was your first season on and off the court overseas yeah and like he took a good question to ask it really is and like when he asked him you could tell like it was just like a weight or something just hit him and he tried to gather himself and he started like choking up and he said going out to eat oh my what was your favorite part about being overseas i'm surprised bro that paw Because whenever I watch that thing, I'm cracking up before he even answers it. Bro. Probably just, like, going on to eat.

The first time I heard that one, that was just, I died laughing, but also every athlete, every college athlete before this new NIL deal and all that, they understand. They understand that. He just could have expounded on the point a little bit more. Yeah. Like, going out to eat with my teammates, you know, like, just sitting there. You know, like, he's like, shit, going out to eat. I used to look forward to freaking Friday night dinner at the Omni, that fucking rubber steak. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I used to look forward to that. In the pros, man, like when the food got a little better, well, not in St. Louis, but when I got to, like, those real franchises and they had, like, chefs, I used to just sit up in the hotel the night before the game until almost midnight. The table of, you know, like me, Kelsey, Brandon Brooks, Camu, like, there would be five or six of us that would be. just stay up dom would be in there and we'd just be up there eating ice cream i'd go back and get another turkey burger they still had the turkey burgers on the fucking i wasn't thinking about my microbiome back then yeah i was just thinking hey i'm gonna burn this off tomorrow we ate like

kings the night before games yo us in yeah i take it back to high school and by the way they're they're closing uh old country buffet oh a lot of golden corral yeah well we used to go to golden corral the night before games and and just go to town and that's not fuel all right like that's that's that's not there's some stuff that's not there's some stuff they have to offer you can get some good fuel there no we we used to go we used to sit in golden corral 20 deep like most of the guys on team or whoever can make it and then we go out in the parking lot and pack dips sitting there's back of the pickup truck pack dips hit golf balls out of the back of my truck into this into the back of this factory you guys with a little fucking varsity blues it was

like it was yeah it was like uh it was like not west texas but barsy blues i don't know but that's why my microbiome needs work because because of it you're working all those those football meals better late than better late than never dude yeah that's what i'm saying dude we're in the second half now for sure you know that yes how old are you 36 yeah you're at half time bro yeah yeah so you just get your microbiome. I'm hoping I'm waiting before half time. All right. I'm going to ask Sauce Gardner about microbiomes. Hey y'all. Greenlight

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Oh, man. Honestly, probably not. Really? I'm not a heavy Madden guy. I'm mostly on, like, Call of Duty. Oh, really? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's my go-to right now.

I saw you playing sketch. Yeah. That's my guy. That's my guy, man. Well, I don't know. That game, I was having a pretty good game. The Chips fell my way that day. I think I'll beat him in all three games.

So I just had a good day. But, you know, doing it day in and day out. I don't know if I'd be able to do it. Yeah, not right now, but when you retire like me and you play three games a night, we can get one, dude. But he was also born in the year 2000. We were like driving cars by that point. You think he's better because he's younger because he grew up with the games.

Yes. I don't know, man. I'm starting to figure it out a little bit, although some guy I had to quit last night. Some guy beat me by 40. Oh, that's crazy. You know, you run into somebody like that every once in a while, dude. Yeah, most definitely. I feel like, you know, when I do get on Madden, I play Ultimate Team.

Okay. So I feel like I run into those guys all the time. Yeah, people spending money on the game, dude. I can't help you. What, who do you control when you play defense in Madden when you do play? Do you play with the Jets? Do you control the DB or do you like to play like, like I like to control the Mike linebacker? I like to play with like Matt Milano or something like that or Roquan or something.

What I usually do, I'll put a safety, a safety that can tackle at Backer, and I just control him. So that way he's, you know, he can move and he can tackle. That's really smart. And I saw him flashing up all his little adjustments. I was like, maybe he could be. I don't make many adjustments, you know. So what's the problem with being you in there?

How do they not have you? He's outside. Okay. You got to go in the high view. I don't know. Yeah, you got to go on the high view to see me. For some reason, I don't know how to control the corners. You know, I feel like I get beat a lot whenever I'm on myself.

So, yeah, that's not for me. Are you going to pick up NCAA? Yeah, most definitely. I have to. But the only thing, yeah, I wish it came out when I was still in college. Yeah. You know, I feel like at Cincinnati, we had our run, Coach Fickle. You know, we all had our run there.

You know, we went to the college football playoffs and everything like that. So I feel like that would have been a pretty good year to come out with it. Dude, and the money is getting better and better. I'm wondering why that class action lawsuit didn't go back to like 2008, so they could pay some of us older guys, but it's all good, man, as long as dudes are getting their money. What do you think about two of the most famous guys in football being Cincinnati Bearcats, the Kelsey's, and have you met Jason and Travis much? Oh, yeah, I met them a while ago.

You know, those are my guys, you know, and being able to all three of us be Cincinnati alums, you know, it's great, you know, any advice I have, any advice I need from them, you know, they don't hesitate to give it to me, you know. Trav, I met him first before Jason. I remember I got drafted. Actually, he was in the NFL when I was in college, obviously. And I remember, I think I committed to Cincinnati or something like that. And I used to just text him.

I DM him on Twitter. He never seen it until after I got drafted. He probably was going to congratulate me on getting drafted and everything. So I used to tell him, I used to tell him like, yeah, one day I'm going to be in the NFL like you. I used to just say little things like that, you know, whenever I would see him on social media. I just remember he had hit me back You know that was love You know Jason you know

He's extremely humble as well I feel like both of them humble But Traff he You know he Obviously you know who he's with And he just He got that natural swag and everything like that And Jason

Jason got swag But it's a different type of swag You know what I mean He's more he more chill He more chill But I remember I remember when I went on like I went on a 30 day visit

with the Eagles or whatever. And I see him in a wayroom lifting and just seeing him get after it. And he's seeing me, you know. Actually, I met, I met Jason first. I met Jason at that 30 at that 30 business. So I met him first. He's seen me.

He's seen me. He's like, man, you're a long corner. He's just telling me things like that, man. He's looking up at you. Yeah, for sure. He might be six feet. And you're six three. How would your game be different

if you were 5'10. Yeah, what do you have to change? How do you use your height to your advantage? And is it not always an advantage? I don't know. Actually, I never got to ask that question. You know, me being so tall, I pride myself on being able to move like the shorter guys.

You know, that's why that's one thing about my game that I feel like it's different from a lot of other six-three or taller corners. You know, my ability to be able to, like, move and change directions, stuff like that. So it might be the same. It depends if I still have my arm lift, do I have my arm lift or no?

Yeah. We'll give you your armline. Okay. Yeah, so it'll be the exact same. You almost rather be tiny with long arms, dude. Yeah. Yeah, no, I come across a lot of shorter cornerbacks, even like DJ Reed, he's shorter than me,

but he has long arms. He always be like, bro, I'm supposed to be at least six foot. Like, they all, bro, I didn't heard that so many times. from different sort of cornerbacks is crazy. I'm supposed to be six. You're supposed to be six four. You're not six four. Let's not.

Yeah. Well, do you think, do you think Reed doesn't get enough credit? I feel like, you know, obviously you deserve a ton of credit, right? You know, like you've set the league on fire your first couple years, but I always tell people there's two really good corners up there in New York. Yeah, man, you know, me being able to see it like firsthand, and watch him day in and day out.

Just being able to see the type of leader he is, like Coach Arborig or a defensive coordinator, he always talk about him. I'm like, it's not just me or the cornerback coaches, or the cornerbacks or my cornerback coach, Tony Oden, who sees it. Like, everybody sees it, man. He works so hard, like, on and in, off the field. And, like, his craft, he tried to get better every single day.

So I literally watch him every single day. Like, everything that he do, the way his rehab, the way he take care of his body, the way that he prepare for practice, not just waiting for practice, but actually preparing for practice. You know, it's a difference. So to a certain extent, I do feel like he don't get enough credit, but I feel like the ones who actually know ball, like, know, like, he's a dog. Like, you know what mean? He's really a dog. Yeah, he absolutely is. What do you, like, as a former defensive end, there used to be games I come out of and say, you know, fans will say, hey, you play like trash.

I didn't see you back there or whatever. And I'm like, man, I was winning my, rushes. You know, the coverage wasn't there. There was a lot I wish fans knew about the game, right, when they evaluate me in my position. What do you wish fans knew about cornerback play? Like, what are the times where you're like, man, if you only knew what was happening here? A lot of times you guys get beaten, it might not be you at all. I mean, at the end of the day, it happens, like in general, like sometimes you're going to get beat. Sometimes it's going to be you that don't do your job right. Sometimes your teammate might not do their job right. And it's up to all to keep that in-house, obviously.

But, you know, it's 20-24. The coverages has evolved to a certain extent. To a certain extent. Cover three, not just cover three that you see on Madden. You know what I'm saying? Corners are not just turning and bailing and running hella far. You know, everything is kind of different. So if a fan see a receiver that's kind of opening and look like he's in your area or something

like that, hey, oh, man, you need to get better. You know, it's a lot of that that goes on And not just like for me or for the Jets It's a lot of that that goes on around the league Like I didn't seen Darius Slay on Twitter Saying stuff to fans Like man, y'all really don't know nothing that's going on And I'm not going to say they don't know nothing that's going on

But, you know, sometimes they don't know what's going on And I don't blame them Because that's what fans do You know, they watch football and, you know, they wake up and watch football That's just what they do And watch sports in general So sometimes they're not always going to get it right, but that's one of them.

Yeah, they might not know you were supposed to have help over the top or something like that. And it's hard. I always like DBs, they'd say, hey, don't give the other guy the palms up, man, don't show up your guy, right? Which I think, like, a lot of DBs do a really good job of that. We just go back to the huddle and we handle it, right? Yeah. But it's the same thing with being out of your gap up front and that sort of thing. You don't want to turn to your buddy and be like, you know, keep it in-house.

And last year was tough. I know because you guys are a really great. great defense. As far as EPA is concerned, up near the top of the league, I thought the defensive line was great. The coverage is great. Backers are fun to watch, man. But I've been on defenses like this where, and this didn't take anything away from the situation you guys were in, but it's like, sudden change, sudden change, you know, start with the ball at the 30 yard line. Like, you're in plus territory. You're playing defense all of a sudden. Does that get demoralizing? Was it hard for you guys? And how did you rally around each other as the season went on? Because it was.

what you expected to be. When it came to the outcome of the game, if it's one of those games like where we lost and we felt like things could be different, you know, then obviously it will be demoralizing or whatever. But when you end the heat of the moment, it's like you want to go out there and be able to show the world why you're the best.

You know, we want to be able to go out there and show the world why we're the best defense in the NFL. You know, and that's just how we used to think about it. But when the outcome used to be us losing, And then we, obviously we'll get to talking about other things. But, you know, like, I always want to be able to go out there on the field and compete. Yeah. With a game, like, you know, you had your Dallas games where I'm like, man, you guys are good enough to beat these guys on that side of the ball.

And it just snowballs because, you know, everything goes wrong. And then you got your Houston game where it's raining and you guys are getting after their ass. You know, they're down a couple receivers. And I'm thinking, like, having been a part of groups like that, are those the games that keep you going? Even though nobody's like that, fans watching it, like, that game doesn't matter as much. These guys might be out of it.

But for you guys, you walk out of a game like that, do you take pride and when the chips are down coming to work? Yeah, most definitely. I feel like that's what Coach Sala, Coach Warburne, our position coach, do a great job at, you know, no matter what the circumstances are, you know, we out there on the field, you know, we got to act like it's a championship every single game.

And I was just watching DJ's show, showed me what Tom Brady had said about how he treated every practice, every preseason game, like it's a championship. So when he got to the Super Bowl, it was like a normal game for him. And that's how we treated as a defense. You know, whenever we out there, you know, the younger guys come in, you know, we set the standard for the younger guys. So they're going to watch what we do day in and day out.

So when they get out there, they're going to ball. So, yeah. Who's the guy on your defense? You've got to calm down a little bit. You seem pretty calm. Like I might be wrong. Maybe you got a different. persona on the field, but who's the guy that you got to be like,

yo, chill, dude? Like, like, we got to, we got to play this game, dude. Oh, man. That's a great question, man. It's probably Michael Clemens. Michael. Michael Clemens, he'd get in a different zone, man. I'd be having to be like, you got to understand. I'm much more smaller than him, so I got to be, like, he's going to actually listen to me.

You know what I'm saying? Which is crazy. I gotta be like, come on, man. Like, just like the little, Mike, like the movies where you got, the rock and Kevin Hart, things like that. So I'm more like Kevin. Yeah, I'm more like Kevin Hart. So I got to, I feel like that's why he hear me.

You know, I got to be, come on, Mike. Just relax. Calm down, man. I know what you mean. I had a couple of those guys. It's end of May, beginning of June. So we got to talk about stupid stuff. If we put you at receiver, your quarterback's Aaron Rogers,

17-game season. How many catches, how many yards, how many T-Ds for you next season? Oh, man. I don't know how many catches. I don't know I'm going to find a way to get it at least 1,200 yards. Wow.

At least 1,000 yards easily. Hopefully. About 8 TDs. You got to know. Matter of fact, at least 1,200. I got Aaron. I got Aaron. See, look.

Aaron, he makes the good ones look great. You know what I'm saying? So me, I'm going to come in at receiver. I'm going to be good, but he going to take me to a whole different level. What's it like practicing against Aaron? Or are there just moments where you're like, I don't expect that ball to be there on Sunday. Man. Man. It's really frustrating sometimes, you know, because he don't really give you too many opportunities to intercept him.

Yeah. So it's like if he do and you miss that up, you're going to be. be so frustrated because you never know when you gonna get the op again. Like he might give you an op the first week of OTAs and then you don't get the next opt to OTA number six, OTA

number seven. I'm gonna say July maybe. Yeah, for real. It could even be July, but it's like he to the point, it's like man, he's been playing this game for a very long time. He didn't seen every look. So he's so confident in himself. And

that's one thing that I get from him that I try to apply to me because age, age doesn't matter. You know, confidence. You don't have to be in a league for 10 plus years to be confident. You should always be confident in your ability as long as you have prepared the right way day in and day out. So, man, just being able to watch him and see the throws that he make, no look throws. Like I remember last year, he threw one of the tight ends a back shoulder, a back shoulder

on like a plaster so he scrambled out and he looked the other way and threw a back shoulder on the sideline, I couldn't believe it. My break was so clean like it was going to be a pick. It was going to be a pick. He literally threw it where I couldn't even get in.

And I'm a guy with long arms. Yeah. Yeah, he's something, man. He's still, that arm still works. What are some other guys, like who are some other guys that you say they do a really good job with their eyes? You know, like we know as fans and as players, hey, but if I'm not in a back pedal,

I don't know how you guys are getting manipulated by some of these really experienced guys. Who are the guys that do the best job from the snap of the ball to the release of the football in manipulating a defense? So I haven't seen a guy as good as Aaron when it comes to, like, manipulating the defense. But there are guys who do manipulate defenses. I would say Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Have you played Burrow yet? Yeah, Joe Burrow.

Joe Burrow for sure. I feel like he does a great job in the pocket with his eyes. Most definitely. I would say them three, them three for sure. What's the attitude when you play Josh because it's like, hey, the rushers, we're stressed out all week. I know you hear the D-Line coach in there like rush lanes and the whole thing. But if he breaks the pocket and he's bearing down on you guys in the second level, like, You're a big dude, but what's it like getting him on the ground and the challenges that he poses?

I mean, it's tough. You know, it's not many quarterbacks built like him. I think he's probably the biggest one in the league that can move like that. Yeah. You know, so it's definitely tough because nine times out of ten, by the time it's time to tackle him, you already didn't chase your man around the field for about five to six seconds because he's literally going to be running, running away from the D-line the whole time. and the receiver's trying to get open.

So you go from chasing the receiver to all right, now it's time to make this tackle. You know, so, yeah, it's definitely a tough task. Do you think scramble drills, like when you think scramble drill, is that the first team you're thinking about? Most definitely. Most definitely. The chemistry that him and Stefan Diggs got had,

it was crazy. You know, because Stefan already a guy that can get open without the player because he's an elite receiver. But just combining that with, Josh, it was crazy. What's it like playing Miami? I talk about Miami a lot. I mean, how quick they get the ball out and that sort of thing in the run game

and the speed they have outside. I just playing Miami, the timing that they play with when they're rolling. Because when you got them, you got them. But when they're rolling, it can be hard. And you see how they score 70 on like Denver. But what's the challenge there when it comes to, hey, we got to take care of the flat. We got to take care of these quick options. but also we're afraid of getting beat over top.

Man, playing Miami, you got to understand. You got Tyreek. But Jalen Waddle, who was like Tyreek Jr. Like, not Jr., but Tyreek yield 2.0. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you can't be like, oh, let's take Tyreek out the game and just have to focus on Jalen.

Because Jalen the dog, too. So it's just like, hey, you just got to trust in your game. You got to trust in your game. your preparation. Because you know when you play in Miami, they're not just going to line up and just run routes. You know, they have the ability to do that,

but that's just not what they do. It's going to be a lot of moving pieces before the ball of the snap. And when the ball snap, you're just going to see left, right, vertical. It's going to be a lot going on. Yeah.

The majority of us old heads appreciate this clean, new throwback uni look. What are your thoughts on it? Especially, I think the white face mask really makes it pop. I think it looks good. But you haven't seen all of the bad iterations of the Jets Unis since we had these.

Well, for starters, I mean, I'm only going on year three, so I think they're probably 10 times better than the ones we had last year. And I'm going to tell you why, for the most part, before I even get too much into detail, the number one last year, the way it looked on a jersey, was just like a stick of butter. It was like a stick of butter. But like now you can actually see the actual number one.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I still, I mean, my practice jersey still like to stick a butter one. So I just, it reminds me of last year a little bit. It's just a letter I. It looks like a piece of tape. Exactly. Looks like a piece of athletic tape.

I wish we could change it, but I don't want to try to be bigger than the program. Right. So I'm just, I'm going to just keep it exactly how it is. But, man, just the way to the pattern, the pattern, the two stripes on each shoulder. Yeah. You know, everything just looks nice about it. The helmets, of course, the new logo is fire. The white face mask.

I love everything about the new. Yeah, it's a good looking get-up. With Zach Wilson, man, he got a lot of criticism. I mean, I criticized the hell of him after what I thought he threw the defense in the bus. But I'm also a football player. I understand people say things that they maybe didn't mean. And you guys rallied around him and Garrett rallied around them. And people make a lot of noise.

But I guess my question would be, I think, I think Zach's an NFL quarterback. Now, could he reach his potential? I think that's up to the system he's in and how he develops. What do you think about his second chapter? Are you pulling for him? Do you kind of, do you think that he's got some tools and what would he need to change to get better? I feel like when it comes to talent, as players and coaches, if you see somebody do something, let me just speak with me.

if I see somebody do something one time, then I know it's in them. I know they can do it, right? So I didn't practice against him for two straight years, and I didn't even see him do some special things in games, so it's like I know he can do it. So it's just going to take something to get it out of him so this way this can become who he is,

like game in, game out, every day of practice, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like a new chapter, like obviously I'm not familiar with Demer and how they run things and who their coaches is. But a new chapter, I feel like was good for him and is good for him. And I feel like he had all the tools that it takes to be top tiered NFL quarterback. Yeah, I mean, he makes some wild plays.

And like you, I'm like, I sound like a coach too, but I'm like, if I see you do it once, man. Yeah. Like, let me see it again. You know, so hopefully we see some more of it. Your coach, Jeff Ulberg, you already mentioned who I'm a big fan of this guy, man. And I feel like he's a great coach and hearing you guys talk about him. I think he's a head coach one day. Do you think he's got that in him?

Oh, most definitely. You know, his attitude, every day that he just attacks work, you know, when it comes to how he carry itself off the field on the field, you know, how he talks to the defense, you know, he's a true leader. You know what I'm saying? He embodies everything that we need, you know, to keep going every day. And obviously, he knows ball. That's the, I feel like that's the easy thing, you know, when it comes to a guy.

guy that played in the league and someone who now coaches and is a coordinator, he knows ball, whether it's offense, defense, like he knows everything about, about ball. So I have no doubt that in his future he's going to be a head coach. And also, I heard this. I don't know if it's true. I really liked him on hard knocks, but he wouldn't call you sauce until you made that big player, had that great game early in season, I guess your rookie year. But can I talk to you about seasoning?

Yeah. Nobody ever asked you about seasoning, bro. They don't. They don't. I'm not a big sauce guy. What's your favorite seasoning? Oh, man. I don't know.

I don't really have a favorite seasoning, though. What do you throw? Like, if you can't put sauce on chicken wings, which sauce doesn't really, in my opinion, belong on chicken wings. I like dry rub. Like we eat on lemon pepper. You like Lowry's? Lurries.

I'll probably say Lurys, man. Okay. Yeah, I'll probably have to say. Lurys. What's the worst sauce pitch you've gotten, the worst business pitch you've gotten since you've been a league? Because I know people are coming to you left and right for like some sort of sauce endorsement. I don't know. You got a business guy for that. Yeah. I do. I do. I do for sure, but I don't know. They probably, it was probably so bad. They probably didn't even tell me about it. You know what I'm saying? In 2022, sauce endorsed a Buffalo White.

Wild Wing sweet and spicy barbecue sauce known as sauce sauce. Nice, dude. Yeah, yeah. That's creative. That's good shit. Yeah, man, I probably eat that every other day, every day, if not every other day. Really? So you don't eat like a professional athlete necessarily?

Kind of, but I eat in a moderation. You know what I'm saying? Well, I just put a little bit on there and just have to make it last the whole meal. Yeah. But I try to eat healthy, man. It's hard, man. Is there any sauce you hate? Where do we stand on mayonnaise?

I grew up eating mayonnaise. Ugh. I grew up eating. That's how I used to put the mayonnaise on the bread. That's what I used to use for my sandwiches. Yeah. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know if there's any sauce that I hate. Okay. All right. No sauces that he hates. Did you hate Hard Knocks? How did you feel about Hard Knocks? We were just talking about Hard Knocks with Ulbrook. Like, what was that like?

having people in the building all the time. You didn't really have a two, like if you're young, I feel like you don't know any different. So it's all crazy and new. But for me, thinking about Hard Knocks would be nuts. Man, I wish things were able to be different, you know, obviously throughout the season. Yeah.

Because if I was, if things was to be different last year, my thought process on the beginning, and this is what I was telling, like, the team. Like, they're literally about to record us. do something special. Every day, like, they're about to record our process and doing something special. And that's the way I thought about it, because

especially when it's something like that that you no longer have control over, it's like you have to find the positive things throughout that process. And I literally started believing in that process, like they're about to record our preparation of a special run, you know? Yeah.

I got two for you, and then we'll let you go, man. First off, when I heard this Malachi kid that you guys drafted, the one receiver, yeah. I heard Debo Samuel, and I'm like, all right. It'll work. Yeah, that'll work. What do you think so far? He's looking good, you know, every single OTAs he's there.

You know, obviously he's attacking the weight room. I'm not too big on comparisons, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, just like how people compare me to Reeves. And it's like, first of all, we have two total different body types. So I don't know if y'all can compare us that way. Obviously, he's a dog. I'm a dog, too.

But it's like, it's Revis we're talking about. You know, the amount of things, the special things he's done is crazy. I'm only going on year three in the league, you know, so it's totally different. I have to become the best sauce gardener that I can be, you know? And when it comes to Malachi, like, it's Debo. Debo, he's done some crazy things in the league as well. You know, he's a dog. You know, he can run routes.

He can get the, he can go to running back. He can get the ball now and do something special with it. You know, and Malachi, he just got in the league. So it's one of those things, like, you just have to see it first, you know? That's just like me. When I first got here, yeah, I'm sauce. They drafted me. I got the sauce bottle when I got drafted.

it, but guys like CJ Mosy, they don't care about none of that. They don't care about all of the extra stuff that's going on. They want to see me play. They want to see me play in a real NFL game. They want to see me go through an NFL training camp, and they want to see what I can do. You know, so all the comparisons, I'm not a huge fan of it. Well, I mean, if he's big and he's physical,

I can't wait to watch him play. Week one. Yeah, week one against the Niners. Debo versus the guy they're trying to compare to Debo. Last question for you. This came out, an FLPA talking about changing the schedule. I know how I feel. I've been through two days.

A couple CBAs ago where training camp was really long. But they're talking about now possibly doing away with voluntary and then putting training camps somewhere in June or early July. What do you think first when you think about your year as a player? Hold on. Say that a woman. I'm going to be honest. I don't really be in the loop.

That's good. So this is perfect. We're breaking news for sauce. I don't know nothing about schedule changes. I don't know anything about... So here we go. Well, I just found out about the kickoff drill yesterday. I heard about it.

You found out about the kickoff drill yesterday. On Twitter, yeah, we're in a team meeting. Kosala put a video of somebody doing. I'm like, bro, what is this? Like, the guys on the line didn't move into the ball, either hit the ground or the returner card. I'm like, bro, this is different. This is really different.

Did you like the Eagle meeting? Which one? Eagles and Crows. Eagles and Crows. If you're an eagle, you're up at the right. Yeah. Yeah. We love that.

I like solid. We were digging. So the deal is they're going to tell you possibly. What if I told you, Sauce, when you finish in February, because you're going to the Super Bowl, when you finish in February, you're not going to have to come back until, say, June 20th for camp. But camp is June 20th. And it's going to go through, you know, next February. Next February. How do you feel about that?

or would you rather have voluntary and get everybody together and then come back in July as you do now? They're not going to decide based on you, you know? No, yeah, yeah, I know. So you said either have camp,

either have camp win, June? Like, let's say June 20th, you got a report. So it's early. But you don't have voluntary or you could have normal camp start with voluntary in April. I don't know I give what you saying.

So it'll be no OTAs. Basically. Well, me, see, I don't want to ruin the fun for the guys who, like, train away from the facility. But I'm going to just speak with me. If you see this and you have to decide and I'm the last person,

even though I don't think that's going to be it. Don't listen to me. Me, I personally train at the Jets facility like throughout the whole year, year-round. So it's like, I'm going to. I'm going to be here. Yeah, I'm going to be here. I'm going to utilize the resources.

And like these are the people who know what I have to get better at every year. So like I'd rather train at the Jets facility than going somewhere else, doing what somebody else do with the other cornerbacks. That's not the technique that's taught here. That's what I would do. So if it's some voluntary, I'll be there. Dude, I kind of feel like a lot of guys are going to say, hey, I don't want to go to camp in mid-June.

Like I got a family or I got my routine. like to train in the summer, you know, like to get away from wherever I play. I think actually you and I's opinion is probably going to be more popular. Because I asked Derek Carr yesterday, he felt the same way because OTAs, you come together. Right. If you don't come together after the season, it's hard to build the culture. It's hard to build your team. That brotherhood.

The brotherhood, man, the hanging out, bro. And then also, like, if you're a good team, how are you going to repeat? How are you going to keep it at that level? If you build all this momentum and then you go away for six months. It might be, I feel like it might be egos. Like not being able to build that brotherhood, everybody just come in and this camp. I feel like a lot of egos can, we don't have that problem here, but like, generically speaking, especially you got guys who win a Super Bowl and they don't have to come back.

I just feel like it would be easy for teams to go from up here all the way down here, you know, just for like one small thing like that is really a big thing. So that's how I feel. All right. Well, hey, I appreciate the time. Went a little bit over. So I really appreciate it, dude. And good luck this year.

I appreciate it, man. Yeah. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Did you play with Vinny a little bit?

Curry? Yep, yep, yeah, a couple years ago. You still talk to him a little bit? Decent amount. Yeah, he's got that golf tournament I might get up to. So I might see you around, but good luck this year, man. Okay. Appreciate that, man.

Thank you all for having me. Hey, I got out on the river yesterday. I had an idea. Okay. You know, Shotgun Beach, anybody that floats to James River outside Scottsville, Virginia, you can access it from the Buckingham side like Nate or the Scottsville side like us. There's a beach that anybody that floats this river knows the beach called Shotgun Beach. It's right past the big jumping rock.

Now, for a lot of you guys, you're going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about? But there is something in it for you if you live within driving distance of the James River. Okay. I went out yesterday with a couple of my big large friends, okay, Tom Paquette and Anthony. They're big guys, right? So we get to the beach, and I'm sitting there in my lawn chair, and I'm in the zone. And I'm just looking at the water, and I'm just hearing this loud dumping sound, dumping sound behind me.

And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Y'all are fucking on my trip. I look over my shoulder, and these dudes are chucking a 120-pound rock as far as they can back and forth. And this rock's not going anywhere. It's going to be on this beach. Here's my idea. It's kind of like a sword and the stone deal. Okay, I'm sitting there for a little bit.

They're throwing the rock. People are passing the river. They're like, no, this is fun. I want to see you can throw the rock further. They're like, Chris, throw the rock. I get up. I still got it. I threw the rock about 14 feet.

But I want to know if there's anybody out there that you can throw this rock 20 feet. And if you can throw this rock 20 feet, if you can make it to the James River, and you can throw this rock 20 feet. can prove it you can bring your tape measuring the whole thing i want the biggest hillbillies in central virginia you don't have to be able to run fast you don't have to be able to to you hey you football players you guys have heard of the portal this is the portal like if you can throw this rock 20 feet i'll get you an NFL try out i will at least i will at least send the video to an NFL scout now if you got short arms and you're one of these guys like i can't

help you but i got short arms if you can't throw you if you can't throw it 20 feet you can come on the podcast can i i think we should do a big rock throwing festival on that beach where all the biggest fucking dudes come from far and wide and we see how far they can throw this rock they used to do that in medieval scotland i'm telling you this is like the next rolling cheese festival it is can you imagine some of the big hosses that would come out of the woodworks what are the rules you got to throw 20 feet i mean you're You just have to throw it anyway. Yeah, I suppose you go running, start like a shot put, but it's not going to help that much.

You're on the sand. You know what I mean? I can do underhand or I can do like the strongman backward. Hey, and I thought about doing backwards, but I thought I was going to snap my spine in half. Dude, this is a big rock. It's like 120 pounds. I think I've seen the video. Okay.

It looks. Wives are like, what are these guys doing out on those fucking guys trip on the river? They're probably a bunch of girls. No, he's just dudes throwing rocks as far as they can. So if you live in central Virginia and you can provide a video of you throwing this rock 20 feet, we'll invite you in the studio and we'll talk about getting you in front of some scouts. We should go out there and we should see if we can like spray print that rock. Yeah, we should just so people know.

Yeah. I think we can. Yeah. Another idea I had yesterday is like when you're on mushrooms and the weather's like not great and there's clouds but it's not raining or thundering yet. Like that's the thing. Like I'm the guy that sits up on the beach and I like to look at the make sure I'm the weather man.

And my other buddy's like, nothing on the radar. I'm like, look at that cloud right there. Like, these clouds over here, I think I see a funnel. Like, I'm starting to freak out a little bit. I think you should be able to call the weather channel to report clouds. You know, the way that the police have like a dispatcher, like people just calling in being like, man, I don't know about this cloud in Scotsville. What? A minute ago, it looked like a buffalo.

Now it looks like King Kong. Something's changing. What makes you think that they don't know? They don't have a... Bro, they're running. the weather channel they're running it from like a satellite i am the fucking radar i'm on the river but they need to be able to call they have radars in different spots and it doesn't matter i'm the they watch these clouds develop from two hours away they watch this stuff blow over the mouth and i

understand they saw it come like before it was king kong when it was a tiny little diamond yeah but it's like no i am smarter than a robot yes i am i'm on the ground i'm the one looking at the weather like i am the radar those people are hundred hundred miles away and here's the thing about those clouds. It says 8 p.m. Thunderstorm, 35% chance. Well, it's 5 p.m. You ever have a dinner party and somebody shows up early? Yeah, dude, people show up early. And when you come from a thousand miles away, two hours is nothing. So that's the thing. Like, I would love for there to be a hotline where people just call in about like clouds and developing weather. Do you have an iPhone in the weather app? Yes. You know, like you can look at that. And now it's like when it's raining, it'll tell you the rain will

stop in four minutes. In four minutes, the rain is going to stop. But they can. You know, like, you can can't tell you when the first lightning strikes about this is this is what i'm looking at i'm looking at these clouds this is this is how that'll go you call the weather channel hey this cloud over here looks like a dinosaur it's going to be like it's going to be a problem i know it's going to be problem that person's going to be like well the dinosaur is not the problem what you are what you should be afraid about is this peach looking thing over here that's where the light that's what i'm saying yeah no that's what they'll tell you that'd be fine yeah okay and then i can look for the peach all right you want the weather to be more like the real news like if there's a big news event they get somebody on the

ground. Yes, dude. And I'm not talking about somebody from the network. I'm saying somebody's just out there on the river and I can see clear as day that this cloud might be bad news bears. So do you know that you can't call in and do that? Have you tried? You can't call. There's no fucking dispatcher at the weather channel. How do you know? There needs to be one. If there is, let me know. We have a mailbag. We do have a mailbag. We have a couple mailbags. Thanks for the lovely people. People were cooking with gas, man. Slugging percentage off the charts. Mr. Bear Up asks, a setiva in a comedy show or Indica and a massage, which combo is better? I think we all know Max's answer.

I mean, anybody, I don't know, man. Indica and a massage, dude. My neck is killing me. I got the Indica right here. Who wants to rub my fucking shoulders, man? Yeah, massage all day. Yeah, I mean, I don't, it does. I don't need, like, I don't need, like, fucking, like,

lotus flowers in a bowl of water and fucking spa music and a dimly like you could massage me right here under under these lights like no problem i'd sit right here and somebody rub my fucking traps would be incredible massage is good on its own for comedy you sometimes need that amplifying factor well where's kyle when you need him he gives great massages whoa he does he does he just he does he does he like forces him on you a little bit he does he'll walk up and start rubbing your trap to like show how strong his hand is. And I'm like, hey, stay here, buddy. You know, like, a little to the right. He thinks it's freaking me out, but I'm like, I'm good with it. So in poker, you would be the guy playing at the table, getting the massage probably. Yeah. Kyle's your massage therapist. You think

it's Johnny Sins. It's not at all. It's just the big guy with strong hands. And he just wants to rub your shoulders. You see John Cohen is getting back in the league? Therick Cohen is. Good. Kyle Knows Tariq Cohen No Sativa and a fucking Listen I went to a Mike Epps show

In Jacksonville Circa 08 We were down there for the bowl game Didn't think about When me and Tom Sannie And another white guy secured the best seats in the house Oh my God

That we were going to be the only whites In the building Loved it Loved it Had a great time He only like He like chin checked me one time like i was just waiting to get fucking just bukakied in the front row you know what i mean it was

just like we were right under the lights mike gaps at any point could have turned the crowd on us and he was like uh all the only graze i got was like you white motherfuckers know what i'm talking about i don't even remember what it was but when he said that i was just like yeah i do mike you know it could have been a lot worse my gips is like he's easily like one of my favorite like comedians. He's amazing. If I was high at that concert, I would have left early because I would have tweaked out. You know what I mean? Sativa at a fucking comedy show, like comedy shows are too interactive now. You don't want to be the guy that gets picked on and you don't want to be the guy that, you know, his wife gets hit on and you're stoned out of your mind and you don't know

what to do and you just freeze up. Just laugh. I can't fake laugh. Like I feel like when when I'm laughing uncomfortable, people know I'm laughing uncomfortable. I was definitely happening at the last, the comedy show I went to in Charlottesville. There was definitely some jokes like a white guy was making and it was kind of like Like on the line? Yeah, on the line. But he was doing, at the end of the show, I forgot the comedian's name, but at the end of the show he was just every race went down the line, every single race did it and then when

it was like black people, you could tell the white people around me, like they were like, afraid to laugh. Oh yeah. Don't know what to do. I'll laugh. You want me to laugh? If it's funny, if it's funny in the whole room's laughing, it's funny. But I'm telling you who I'm not going to be that white comedian. There's plenty of jokes out there. There's plenty of jokes out there. That's a no-fly zone. That's the Bermuda Triangle, man. That's funny. I like somebody to walk on me. You know? With an indica? Yeah. Like you pop an indica. Just fucking walk on me, dude. It could be a, it could be a, it could be a, it could be a, it could be a, Hologi Nata. I don't care.

Just somebody just like, you know what I mean? Nah, not Hologna. But I might... Why not? We'll talk after. Okay. I'm just saying, man, my back hurts. I was sitting in a kayak all day yesterday.

Slept in a camper Saturday night. Had 12 kids in a camper Saturday night. Fucking took an hour to get the kids down. At the end of the hour, I tucked two kids that are not mine into bed. one of them says, I don't like that sound. I said, which sound? Can you point to it? And he pointed to the air conditioner.

I was like, that's why you're alive, dude. Like, buddy, I can't help you. I can't help you. I turned it off. And then a kid comes running out two minutes later. It's like, I can't see the alarm clock. I'm like, buddy, when it's bright out, that'll be morning. Your sleep will be over.

That was my weekend. So my fucking back hurts, dude. David Harton wants to know what is the worst high either of y'all have ever had? I have it. I was maybe my senior year. I know yours too. You do? Don't be so sure.

I got one that you weren't there for. Maybe my senior year at UVA, I'm on a love sack and I'm playing Call of Duty and I have the Volcano. and I have a full bag. If people know what volcano is, you fill a plastic bag. And the bag I had modified was probably, probably a foot and a half long filled with smoke. So I'm playing Cold Duty. And like my routine was every time I died,

I would try to like just take a few hits. do that in a game fill another bag up realize I go through probably two bags back then bad my ratio you were like 20 and 20 a game yeah I'm the guy I'm the guy that's trying to get the flag and capture flag so I'm willing to die a lot like I'm running out there

so I probably go through two bags in like a 10 minute span which like isn't it's a lot that's a lot in a short time But you don't know while you're doing it. While I'm doing, exactly. And technology. I'm playing the game and I'm in the middle of the game.

And then all of a sudden it's like the screen just like jumped out at me. And like I'm like getting the spins from smoking. Yeah. And I remember sitting in my room and just grabbing this bean bag and being like, I just got to breathe. I just have to breathe. Oh, bro. That's child's play.

But. That's a panic attack? It scared it scared me so bad I did that for probably 15 minutes I remember getting up like getting in a cold getting in a cold shower with like bro I don't even think I took I had like t-shirts and shorts I just got in the shower and I was just like oh my God like what just happened oh yeah and like after I felt like I had the chills I felt like I was going to be sick but I was just like extremely extremely hot dude a panic attack will ruin your whole bro it like I I think I probably didn't use that volcano again probably for like another, like probably

until like my second year in the league. Dude, I had a panic attack so bad when I was playing that I stopped smoking for like better part of a year. Like and it made my life a lot worse. I was watching Tropic Thunder when it first came out and I was watching with my buddy Aaron who was visiting me in St. Louis. I think it was the offseason. And I think part of the problem was the night before I had had like a fifth of something.

And I was not in a good place. But we turned on the movie to try to, oh, let's smoke a bowl. So we had this yoga guy on the team. He gave me some weed. He gave some fire. And I smoked a few bowls and sit down. And I'm having the time of my life. I don't know how Iron Man is doing what he's doing.

without getting in trouble but it is fucking hilarious and uh i'm laughing so hard and all of a sudden i just took a i kind of like got out of breath from laughing so hard that i started to have a massive panic attack like massive like like i'm outside i'm trying to breathe my heart's pounding um is this when you called me i don't know uh i i'm like Aaron what do we what do we do and he's like you're just going to ride this out you know you're straight and I go, get in the fucking car. I said, we need to be circling the hospital. I'm having like a bad one, dude.

I think this is when you called me. I'm circling the hospital. I think you called me and you asked me, you were like, Nate, I, I'm having a bad high. I don't know if I smoked something. I thought I smoked something. And he's like, I'm about to go to a hospital. And I told you that was the worst possible thing that you can do in your position. And I was like, yo, call.

I was like if you're willing to go to the hospital, I was like, call one of your trainers or someone you trust. I was like, but whatever you do, I was like, bro, don't go to the hospital. Because it wasn't like I wasn't smoking, you know? Maybe it was. And so we're just, we're circling the hospital. Yeah, I was smoking. Organic shit. I was smoking Reggie.

And so I'm circling the hospital for like the for 30 minutes. And the next thing I know I call one of my buddies on the team and I tell them what happened. happened and he's over at a richie incognito's house and rich he's in the back of his is critt oh chris is freaking out ah chris get the fuck over here and and he was like come on and that's exactly how i would have been he called me ock that was my name and he was like ah akki ah get over here the fuck over here and so i go to their house and they're having this like peaceful gathering in the backyard like the old lines hanging out and the whole thing i just sat by the pool with rich and another teammate Jacob Bell.

And they just kind of talked me off the ledge. That was a really bad one. It's crazy. They don't tell those stories about Richie. All that bad shit they talked about. Oh yeah, Richie definitely saved my bacon that day. Look at that. He did.

He also ripped Making shirt after a fucking like, me and Making go up to a fucking concert in Pittsburgh because Kenny Chesney is playing up there and Making loves Kenny Chesney. But Eric Church is opening so I'm like, okay, I'm in. And so we go up and Chase Rice is there too and chase rice is a country star who i literally last week on the river somebody asked me how it's chase rice if i get that again but he's a fucking cool dude and he played football unc so we were all

clicking afterwards hanging out chase got us in the back and kenny's there and hanging out and makins you know on on cloud nine okay meets richie first thing richie does is grabs his shirt from the top and rips it down the middle like top to bottom like never meant making his life and making's just like like just just dumbfounded he was drunk who richie yeah but what did make it do what was making gonna do what was making gonna do it was it was like it was like an endearing shirt rip to to ritchie they were all just people were raging this was out in the crowd this was like and there were 40 football players there it was like everybody was big and sweaty and just like

and drunk and it was hot it was like August and don't fucking rip my shirt don't rip my shirt yeah but then Richie apologize Richie apologize Richie apologized okay this isn't about Richie

and the next one was I actually wrote down the worst highs oh yeah this was a shroom experience at the Hollywood Bowl at the Willie Nelson 90th birthday party thing and I'm on

cloud nine i'm having a great time but i don't like crowds sometimes and it was very crowded and it was cold and you know me when i get cold on the boomers i'm like i need heat i need warmth bro when i tell you it was like it was right before the jamy johnson set and i'm like bro it's jamy johnson i was he got back to my seat to see fucking james james josemy singing miss james by the way with the little it was Jamie Johnson he was glowing he was like a Buddha he was like a country music Buddha and and he was glowing and behind him was the cross that's on the hill if you're up in the Hollywood Bowl there's this lit up cross in the and it just was amazing I'm glad I got back but I rushed out into the concourse like needing space and warmth and that place is outside there's no

indoor anything the line to the porta potty if I was going to like hunker down the porta potty it was going to be tough. So I just dart into like the first staircase down to the hallway I see and I walk down in this decrepit hallway and I'm confused. I don't know which way is which and all of a sudden this little Mexican guy and a yellow CSA, whatever jacket shows up and he looked like an angel to me. And he was like, walk up the stairs. He was like there's an inside bathroom up the stairs and across the way and I hidden this bathroom for probably 30 minutes. I scuba died in Hawaii on boomers And at

A few times When I actually like Was like thinking about what I was doing Yeah Like while being on them and like being down there Like I almost like freaked myself out Fuck yeah dude But underwater on mushrooms

Bro it's like the best thing ever It's honestly like Yeah Seeing like all the like the fish just That's what the that's what the Pixies guy wrote Where is my mind about Obviously I was swimming in the

Caribbean. He was sco-ers snorkeling or scuba diving. Oh, no way. And I bet he was on mushrooms. Oh, yeah. Honestly. Bro, it's like, it's, it feels majestic. Animals were hiding behind the rocks. All that, bro, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. What drug would you give to each position on the football field? So what drug would you give to linebackers, D.Bs, quarterbacks to enhance? Quarterbacks. Quarterbacks, Adderall. Um, linebackers and D-Line.

Meth. Bath salts. Meth, bath salts. D-Lines, meth. From what I understand, meth turns people into zombies. That's what the baths are. And like, the way they platoon D-lines, if you had, like, multiple meth-out regiments. But, like, people do meth on a regular basic at moderation.

The bath salts, you remember that? At moderation. Bro, you take bath salts once. You were biting people's face off. You can smoke. Hold on. I understand that. but I don't want all that.

Yes, you do. I don't want personal fouls. No, you got to help me on. Dude, no, basaltz is going to be, it's going to be a flag fest. Meth, however, there's also this. We can meet all day. We can meet all night. From what I understand, people on meth don't sleep.

And we get nice dental plans for these guys. Half the guys in the league have veneers now. So no problem. We just give them all veneers, which, you know. I think running backs maybe some crack crack cracks seems to be a drug like have you ever seen

you be tapping your helmet like I need to hit dude you ever seen the videos of like crackheads like falling or doing like certain stuff that you're just like holy small yeah maybe wide receivers too but I'm just because I just think about the red ball skit yeah exactly and every time like you know Dave Chappelle

Every time like Cooper Cup goes up and makes a great play, it's like, the fear factor script, like when he's, when he's, um, the crackhead, whatever his name is. Yeah. He walks over to coal. I'm giving the kickers benzos. That's smart. Right?

What do benzos do? Make you not care. O-Lyman. Nicotine. Are percocet? Yeah. Just give him zin. Are percocets benzos?

No. Perkinsets are more similarly related to heroin. You probably give the O-Lyman Perkinsettes. Well, you give coaches. Yeah, but you don't want them all like, what do you give the coaches? Sleeping pills. We run the team. I'd have all hopped up on Ambien.

Nick Siriani will be like, thank you. Like, finally I can sleep. The motherfucker I don't think sleeps at all. By the way, Zen, talking about O-Lyman, giving them Zen. This is in Zinn shortage. If you haven't noticed, it's a big fucking problem. It's a big problem. Woo.

Oh my God, no Zin. It would be like me taking away like weed for you. No. For a lot of people. No, it would. Yes, it is. No. It would be like that.

For you and all the frats. Oh my God. Oh, M.G. No, it would be like taking somebody's cigarettes away. You think somebody that like, they're doing it. There's no menthol. Okay. Yeah, I noticed.

And when I was in, when I was in California. for the Willie Nelson thing. I couldn't find no menthol. We're actually lucky here. We have like flavors and shit. A lot of other places, they have no flavor. Dude, nicotine's more addictive than weed.

Yeah, for sure. So, so yeah, it'd be even worse. Like, I was tripping last week, that bad trip, I double dose myself.

I told them about this, but I ate chocolates that were like, you know, I don't always fucking turn into a puddle of, like, know I'm pretty functional most of the week. This is your brain on drugs? Yeah, but there's a fucking gas station in Charlottesville that we're not going to name

that's like a gold mine supposedly for Zen. If you find a place that has Zen now, the energy that you give the fucking cashier is like armed robbery energy. I'm like, open the fucking closet. I'm like, I'm like, let me see. your hands. I just want to know you're not hiding and he's in. It's like intense. When you find a place that has sixes in Virginia, it's a big deal. My kid's like, what's wrong, Dad? You guys just gave me an idea. What? I'm about to go buy all this ends and I'm going to put a vending machine

in here. I don't think you, I don't think legally you can do that. Yes, I can. This is private property. Are you going to tell me? I'm going to put it in here. Yeah, it's my private property. You've talked yourself into a corner here, sir. We barely have room. You can put a Zinn vending machine and charge me for my space? Yeah, I'll give you a discount code. Oh, just a count code. Unbelievable.

Discount code. Zin, yo. I can't believe you guys like Zinn that much. So is it like as bad as you'll take any flavor now? I had to buy coffee last week. Yeah? So that just tells you something. Know what you have to do.

What? You need to find out where. NASCAR is going and ask people, fans to go. And they, like, they give them, like, they sell them there cheap. So we should just drive to, to Martinsburg on a whim, fight all the traffic. It's not a whim. It's not a way. Fight all the traffic.

Find parking. Buy tickets to the event and just. NASCAR, believe it or not, their events are. No, I know. We had a great time. Like, pretty well taken care of. $2,500 for your main cave. What are you spending it on?

Ooh. Because people might get $2,500 for a direct TV class action thing. It's hard to explain. Six billion dollars in damages split up between... $2,500. Yep. What advice would you give somebody? 25.

If it's their man cave. How would you, yeah. I would get a zero gravity chair or a massage share. Okay? But that's like, you're already like $1,700. Yeah, that's like if you get a good one. A bunch of Zen. Jesus.

You can rig one of those many. bridges with a keg yeah yeah those are good nah you got to go you got to go big or go home on the best on the best quality tv and in surround sound and then work around that dude that's like one tv if you're getting best quality say again if you're getting best quality it's one tv so right now just so we know a massage chair the cheapest one i'm looking at is six thousand dollars so you negative $3,500. Yeah, I think you can get,

I think Chris is like his mental, like, thoughts of, oh, speaking of this, we have to sign up for prices right. You're not good at that. Like, Chris isn't good at like knowing not with sports.

Huh? Not with sports. I think I'd beat you right now with items. I don't know. Yeah, go, do it. I just did it on the show last week. You just said something was 1700

and he said it's 6,000. I mean, I can find you a used fucking, massage sheriff's 17 hondo if you're getting talking about used i'm not getting yeah you run a white light over that thing i'm not looking at you good i don't care who's been sitting in it give me an item all right one sec and are we going to try to win the liquid death no no you get six months of of hangar space too would it well all right here samsung 65 inch class q 9 q n 95c neo q lede 4k smart tv

$4,700. Yeah, $4,700. 4,600. Mm-mm. You want to go higher. Oh, yeah, I do. Bro, like, stop. Why are you helping him?

Well, you're in it too, Matt. $1. I'll take $1. All right. He just played me. You're a sucker. See, I was going to win. No, because it's $2,49.

I would be it. Yeah, well, I would beat him. He went over. Any overbid loses. If I'd have gone under, I'd be here. You have to get ready for prices right. You've got to know the rules. All right.

A YouTube TV monthly subscription. This is the base package, 100 plus live channel, six house cold held accounts in three streams per month. 1099. 4899. Okay. I'll go 3999. Chris gets it or Matt gets it.

What is it? It's 5799. They're robbing me blind. I actually pay for that. They're robbing me blind. I said 4899. Oh, 48. So far, you're not doing good.

Wait, wait. I have premium YouTube. It's only 1099. That's the starter rate. See, you got the starter kit. It's premium. And then we'll go... Last one.

All right, last one. A 10-count pack of uncrustable peanut butter and grape jelly sandwiches. 899. 1137. Okay. $9. $9. Yeah.

Chris gets it. It's 948. You got a point yet? You got a point yet? Hey, Bob Barker. Don't forget to get your pet spayed or neuter. The price is, don't forget your, get your pet spayed or neuter. North Korea.

Hello! Did you see this? Mm-mm. Did you see this? Mm-mm. North Korea is filling balloons with shit and piss and dropping them on South Korea, which is back. Bad behavior.

Broke-ass North Korea, dude. They don't have a budget to do anything of consequence. They just, this is like bad dinner party behavior. What the fuck. It's not even like, I don't even think people could like do anything about that. Like cow shit? Yeah, no, yeah. Like, I don't know.

But I don't even think this crosses the line where you could provoke military action with this. Now, that's biohazard. That's like, you can't do that shit. Theses is dangerous. The South has threatened to respond by blasting K-pop. it's a new york times headline that's funny dude well you know i'm just saying it's pretty fucking it's it's a cell phone really yeah when you're like i don't even have a missile i can't feed my my population and all i can do is weaponize excrement

i'm at the asses you think you can bring a pet back supposed to be scared in north korea we look at of the camera which camera north korea's only got one camera we got three cameras i'm not afraid of you speak for yourself not in that so do you think you can bring a pet back to a shelter what like if you got a pet from a shelter yeah sure like but like five years later no they have a 30 day warranty Because, like, sadly, me and my girl are trying to get rid of her cat that we have. Prince Dominic needs a home. He's a large orange tabby cat, if anyone wants a cat. Like a Garfield?

Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Is he sweet? No. Prince Dominic is, he's interesting. But honestly, my honest take, I think he needs to be an outdoor cat. He's for the streets.

I think he needs to be an outdoor cat. And right now we don't live somewhere where he can be outdoor. We don't have a lot of space. Just let him roll and then put a dish outside, throw in some water and some food every once in a while. You know, it's kind of like the turtle. When you sent the turtle up to Connecticut to die in a fish tank. He lived for mad years.

He lived for mad years. That's what's on his head snow. Great, great care of Snap. Snap. My dad had snaps take hookup. They took care of snaps. That's what they said about somebody who had life without parole. He lived for mad years.

Yeah, you're hilarious. But if anyone in the Charlestval area can handle a cat. You should go back to that pet store that you tried to buy Snap to a fucking fish tank. And they told you you were breaking the law. Yeah. Telling me, now you're trying to give you a cat away. Don't talk because I'll put you out there. You did the same thing.

No, I didn't. Yes, yes, you did. No, I didn't. You took an animal. I rented a snapping turtle less than one day, not even one sleep in my kitchen. Found a snapping turtle other day, down at my pond, put it in a fucking quezon art. Illegal, boom, jail. I don't think so.

Right there. I don't think so. That's what the lady at the pet store. If you take an animal out of its natural habitat, jail. This is jaywalking and that's vehicular manslaughter. I didn't. What do you mean? See that?

That's how they do it. Jay walking, vehicular mansloat. You know it's racist? See that? Taking a fucking turtle out of his natural habitat and keeping him

in an enclosed space for a decade, far away from the... And you did it for a day, so it's not as bad. Yeah. So what did you, why did you only keep it for a day?

Because I didn't want to be like you. Okay. You know? Yep. And so you put them back where? In the same spot, bro. Yeah? Yeah.

He was happy. All right, so y'all take care.