Green Light with Chris Long - Seahawks' Grey Zabel Talks Mike Macdonald, LA Rams' Battles & Celebrating SB Win With Busch Light

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

Grey Zabel, fresh off winning Super Bowl LX with the Seattle Seahawks in his rookie year, talks with Chris and Beau about the playoff run, adjusting to the NFL and Mike Macdonald's coaching abilities. Grey was thrown right into the fire in his first NFL season, having to play the Rams three times and getting to block for one of the NFL's supreme running back talents in Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker Jr. Grey dissects the ups and downs and the knowledge he gained from his teammates and opponents, and looks forward to using it in the upcoming 2026 season. (00:00) - Intro (01:05) - Seahawks' Super Bowl Victory + Love Of Busch Light (07:38) - LA Rams Rivalry & Facing Myles Garrett (10:45) - Welcome To The NFL Moment (12:25) - Seahawks Head Coach Mike Macdonald (15:45) - Seahawks Defense (19:07) - Transition From College To NFL (22:30) - Learning From NFL Peers (27:50) - Kobie Turner (30:15) - Farm Life Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline presented by Zone Nicotine and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open: ‪[phone]‬ With the return of the Layup Line, make sure to check out the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=YP1-ffQ3T_yUDRnJRhDtOw Check out Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First thing I thought of was like, dude, let's go get some beers. Like, we just won thirsty as Tim B. Like, we're just screaming and hollering, like having a blast. So we got in there and there was bushlights just sitting in the locker for me. It was awesome. Probably the smartest football mind I've ever been around in my entire life was coached McDonald just his past year. It's unbelievable how he thinks of the game of football and how he coaches and how he can, like, teach. nickname. Can you think of anything better than the dark side?

That, dude, that works because once you get out there with them, yeah. It feels like you're on the dark side. There's no sunshine anymore, man. It turns dark, extremely, extremely quick. We got a great young offensive lineman joining the show now, and he's a Super Bowl champion, and his name is Gray Zabel, guard for the Seattle Seahawks entering year two. He joins us from Pierre, South Dakota. What's up, brother? How are you?

I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me, guys. What a freaking year for you and what just, like, oh, this is what the NFL's like? We just roll in and we went to it. It's got to be a great. Yeah, this shit is too easy. What did the bling look like, man? You guys just got your rings. What was that like? It was unbelievable. I mean, everything from the party to how it was presented to opening up and seeing them spinning right there on the box it was like all your dreams you could possibly think of just wrapped up into one night it was it was sweet it was awesome beau you remember that night uh it was it was

it was beautiful dude it was great like yeah the the anticipation you have under your seat i think we did and then they're like pull it out and i felt like i was like on an opra or something like that it was it was pretty sweet i mean i know you're in pierre right now though gray like does that super bowl ring fit on your hand when you're like fucking around on the farm doing short farm chores everything like that. Dude, I got home and I like gave it to my parents. I'm like, this is it. And then I don't think I've seen it since. Like they just pulled away somewhere.

And all of them. Everyone I see is like, let me see the Super Bowl ring. I'm like, I couldn't tell you where it's at. I got bigger things to worry about back on the farm. I got to get going until the next season. Did you snack some confetti on the way out or was that, did that cross

your mind? Not really. First thing I thought of was like dude let's go get some beers like we just won thirsty as to be like we're just screaming and hollering like having having a blast so we got in there and there was bushlights just sitting in my locker for me it was it was awesome there we go they they keep you hydrated bush light they've they've taken a notice to your what you like and they they I hope they're sending you some product oh yeah

now now in the off season stuff you got to be kind of considerate of when you have a few. So maybe a tough day after the farm, I'll crack one open. But we got to watch the... You're still young, right? You can... Come on. You got some time before.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it just... It hurts a little more at this age. But let me ask you this, dude. Top three, two or three beers. Top two or three beers you get having.

I don't mean we know it's Bush Light. But top two or three situational beers. dude i i love this because we would talk about this all the time like the first one is is a cold beer like greatest thing any any given point any given day it's just it's just a cold bear the second one is an after work friday beer like work week done got done with work you just crack one open and you have a have a have a have a friday night with the boys and then number three it it kind of splits It's either a boat beer or a golf course beer. You're out on the boat or you're out on the golf course and you crack open that beer.

It's like, all right, I'm going to swing a little bit easier. I'm going to enjoy the sun a little bit more. It's the best. Number four is the Super Bowl, post-Super Bowl win beer. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Well, Beau, we were talking about how it kind of, the Super Bowl kind of flies by. It, like, it's a blur.

I don't know if you thought that, Bo. I mean, we won in 2018 with the Eagles, and people are always like, what do you remember most? And it's like it just went by and it was one big, fast, fucking moving thing and you barely get to enjoy it. So it's my question for you, Gray, is what's the most vivid memory you have on the field of that Super Bowl win? God. You would nail on the head right there. It is the fastest week that just flies by. I really didn't, it didn't set in what we did until, like, the parade.

But, like, the one thing I do remember is it was late in the game. And where I would say there's like a minute or two left and I look up at the score, scoreboard. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, we might actually win the Super Bowl. And then you kind of like snap back into reality. like we got to go put a drive together to like really put this to bed but like I looked up there I remember like the scoreboard it was before they scored that touchdown late late in the game

but I looked up there I'm like holy shit like I got goosebumps sitting on the bench that's the one thing I do remember and then it's like that's back to reality of like okay now I got to go lock the fuck in don't jinx it we got a play still yeah yeah now I got to go block the three tech and stay in front of them. Yeah, that game had to feel like it was on a, like a knife's edge for most of it. When it's a low-scoring game like that and any one big play, any turnover can change everything. How were you all able to kind of play loose even in that situation until the damn broke, so to speak? Yeah, you said it right there. Like our motto with the Seahawks was loose and focused, and that's how we played throughout the game.

But like, if you go back and rewatch that game, like, I'll be the first one to admit, like, I didn't play well. I don't think our entire offense played well. And there's guys that are saying that, like, we're struggling. Like, and then you got a kicker who's, if it isn't for Kenneth Walker, probably wins the Super Bowl MVP. Like, if we're being quite honest, two kids, like four or five deals in Super Bowl. Yeah, he had a whole day's work. Yeah, and we just, we couldn't get it going kind of late in the drives.

Like, we were starting out great, but we just couldn't get it going. Well, then. our defense. Wow. So like it's you look back and we didn't play great, but it was, it was never like we had to press to go try and win a football game if that, if that makes sense. No, that makes sense. I mean, it's, yeah, you go out there anyways. You're kind of, I mean, it's kind of about not pressing no matter how the game goes. Because you can get in that game and be like, I got to play my absolute best. And that's true, but when you go out there trying to make the best player your life every play, you're going to fuck shit up in my opinion. So that's the biggest trick-dick thing about the Super Bowl is tricking yourself into thinking, hey, this is a regular season game because I do plenty well in the regular season.

I just need to do what I do. What about these Rams games, man? Like three in a single season, you know, after a while, you're like, what do we run again? these guys, I'm sure. And they've seen almost everything we have up our sleeve. And I know these players well. They know us well. Even being a rookie, what was it like playing in that trilogy? To just talk about a clash of three completely different games. Like we didn't play well the first game. And then the second game, it was kind of a slow start. And then we got hot late in the game. And then the third game is it was we kind of got hot earlier in the game. And then we really

couldn't separate ourselves. And it was just kind of a heavyweight boxing match in the end in that NFC championship. It was unbelievable. And I, I hate the Rams, but I love the Rams because it is mono e mono best on best. Like they know us well. We know them well. You're just sitting there and you're just trying to win every single rep. But when they're calling out plays, we can tell what they're doing based off their defensive scheme. It is, it's fun football. Like, that's why you play the game to play teams like that. And their D-lines, wicked good, got even better this off-season.

Yeah, I've heard about that. Just, because you hear, where were you when you got that notification on your phone? We're walking out of O-line meetings, about to go out to, like, lift or run or something. And all I could think about is, like, awesome. Cleveland Browns just gave us Christmas present early June late May like that's sweet. What did dudes say? Did dude's phones all light up at the same time? Who broke the news to the group?

Somebody. Yeah. Somebody sent like the Twitter deal. And like first thing you do is you go check if it's like a burner account. Somebody's like messing around. And they're like, oh, this. Please be a burner. This is real.

Sam Donald's just blown up your group chat. You guys are in meetings. He's like, y'all better get this shit right, all right? No more sleeping in third down protection meetings. Yeah, exactly. That's funny. No, but Charles Cross Locker right next to me and stuff.

And I'm like, hey, you're going to have fun. I'll have my eyes out there. Don't worry. He's not going to slip through a big gap. Like, let's roll. And he just, he's like, hey, in the National Football League, everybody's good. You got to earn your paycheck every year.

every single week and it's it's going to be so much fun like people skew away from competition i'm like you know what let's go see what we got he's the best probably best defensive end ever and i kind of want to see how good i am he might embarrass me a few plays awesome been there done that so let's let's go to war what do you call that molly protection where you where you might go out and block a defensive end you ever think call my number coach i want to see what miles garrett's got i remember uh you said might get embarrassed a little bit been there done that and that i watched an interview that you did where you talked about your uh you're welcome to the nfl moment we've all had those man like we've all been there everyone's gotten i've gotten pancake more times than than i'd care to admit um but that's what

it is man like everyone gets put on tape this is a question i love asking guys love asking like old retired that's about this. But like outside of that play that I think I think you talked about it was in your maybe your first start or something like that or might have been training camp. Do you have a single play from this past season? Obviously an incredible season for you, won the Super Bowl, but it was like maybe your worst player, your your career or your NFL career so far that kind of keeps you up in night? This one is like one you're probably not going to think of, but we're down in Jacksonville.

And it was a run play. And it's like parting of the red. see and Kenneth Walker's probably the only time he's going to get touched is hitting his head on the field goal post but I go to try and cut a linebacker and I just like worst cut possible like showed in the team meeting like hey like we got to get this block and it's the worst thing ever that play keeps me up at night because it's just like dude he scores on that play if I don't just absolutely flop directly on the ground and the linebacker just like runs around me. That's by far the one play that keeps me up that night.

Well, you had a pretty good season then. Yeah, I mean, you know, but if they hit you in the big room, it kind of stays on your mind, dude. Yeah. In the big room. What's it like having a defensive head coach, man? I don't know if you had defensive head coaches at any point in your career up to now, but, you know, in college or whatever. But like, you know, that's kind of a newer trend in the NFL is like going back to

the defensive coaches a little bit. And I think Mike McDonald is a big reason why. Yeah, it's, well, first off, probably the smartest football mind I've ever been around in my entire life was coach McDonald just his past year. And it's unbelievable how he thinks of the game of football and how he coaches and how he can like teach and and it was so cool to I had an offensive head coach my senior year and he's like saying like helping me understand why we run certain plays to to certain fronts and all this stuff and why we want to run past concepts with middle field close middle field open and how we want to

look and and see with trade shift motions all that stuff but then you have a defensive head coach and he's like hey this is what we're going to throw at you and it's going to break every single rule that you have on the offense, but you have to figure out how to block it. So we come back after a practice and it's like, okay, this is how we have to block this play moving forward because coach found a way to break our rules. And so we're like, okay. And like when you have Nick, Eman, Eman Worry, it's like, okay, do you treat him as a safety display?

Do you treat him as a linebacker? Do you treat him as a defense vent? because when he walks upon the line of scrimmage, you're like, well, he's big enough to where you got to block him. Like, you got to designate somebody to block him. So it's just like you sit there and it's just a chess match against just an absolute wizard of a head coach. It's unbelievable. It's super cool to see.

And I'm fortunate to not have to go against them every Sunday. That's awesome because I always feel like we always had questions. Like, what if? What happens with this alignment? what happens if this guy's here or there and some coaches don't straight up they just avoid giving you the answers because they don't know

but when it seems like for O-Lyman it's like perfect to have a guy that's trying to poke holes in y'all shit oh it's and he'll be the first one to admit like if we don't understand something he's like he said it multiple times he's like if we don't understand something it's on the coaches for not teaching it right

or explaining it right and just to have that like clarity to have that comfort of like the coaches are going to help us no matter what it's we we learn all the way up until Sunday and then you make adjustments on the field so it's I'm fortunate to be where I'm at let's say that does he tilt the scales in practice for defense there's a few screenplays where like we got defensive linemen dropping into coverage and you're like interesting I that's that's that's It's unbelievable play call. I wonder how that happens.

You guys can handle it. Yeah. Chris and I are defensive guys. We love that Seahawks defense, man. So much fun to watch. And, you know, a lot of comparisons were made to the Legion of Boom and stuff like that. But I just want to take a second. Like, talk about some of the defensive line on that team.

I'm a huge fan of Leonard Williams. I feel like he doesn't get enough credit, you know, year fucking 11, 12 in this league. He's a stud still making plays. How hard is it to block guys like him? and Byron Murphy and all that. Well, first thought, shout out, Leo. Like, he's a big brother to me. Just how he took me in and kind of under his wing and taught me, like, the ins and outs of

kind of playing the line of scrimmage, what he looks for, what he's trying to exploit of what I'm doing. And he does that such a high-level weekend and week out. And it was so cool to just kind of. constantly grow that relationship and kind of get better off of each other. And then you have B. Murf, who comes in, a dominant year two, and there's no slowing down. Like, I'll be the first one to say he's probably having an all pro season year three because of how hard he works, what he does, prepares, all that stuff.

And then you can go down the entire line. Like, a guy like Jaron Reed, who plays nose tackle, like you're not moving him. one-on-one block. Like, if you want to move it, it's got to be a double team. And then the guy that I think doesn't get enough credit is DeMarcus Lawrence. This dude is the most crafty veteran that, like, there was one time he comes in, walks up as a three-tech, walking around three-tech, and I'm sitting here like, okay, what could he possibly do?

I go to punch him. He grabs my wrist out of mid-air, like, pulls himself through. and I'm like never in my entire football career that ever happened and I never want it to happen ever again that was like that's a bad feeling yeah yeah this guy this guy knows some shit dude yeah he's unbelievable he's a beast bro he's a beast I remember that that cardinals game last year you all made like

two picks in the same spot and it was like the same guy you guys it was like watching a super team of defenders, dude. It was, I don't know. We're going to ask about the dark side nickname. Can you think of anything better than the dark side? Is there anything that's across your mind or is dark side work? That, dude, that works because once you get out there with them, yeah.

It feels like you're on the dark side. There's no sunshine anymore, man. It turns dark. It's extremely, extremely quick. And that's in practice, like in games. Like, my old line coach just has to get so worked up when he's trying to make, like, adjustments and all I am is just staring up at the big screen watching the defense. Just watch them.

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to college football in the Dakotas, to like all of a sudden you're blocking Byron Murphy and Leonard Williams and Jaron Reed and all these guys you mentioned, not to mention your opponents. Like how were you able to kind of make those quick adjustments in competition? Because in today's NFL, you don't have as long.

Camp's not as long. You don't get as many reps as a young player. Like, what was that development like for you on that very fast track? Yeah, I think, well, just to start from the beginning, like you go from a smaller school in South Dakota, and then you go to North Dakota State who you're playing top of the competition of FCS football in the Missouri Valley to then into the NFL. So it's like every step was like you got to get bigger, faster, stronger. Yeah.

Going from high school to college to the NFL. But I think the one thing about college to the NFL was, okay, I'm already devised. I'm already kind of towards the top of strength and athleticism and agility and all that stuff. But the NFL, what was the biggest jump was the mental aspect of like

everybody has one move, two moves, three moves, four moves that they can do. At the FCS level, when you watch the defense line, they got one move, one good move that they go to. In the NFL, it's like four moves. So it's like you stop one.

move while he's going to his counter. So like the agility aspect was a thing that I had to really work on. And I think going against guys like our D-line, all of OTAs and all of training camp was what helped me thrive is like, I go out to a game and I always watch somebody on film. And I'm like, okay, what does Leo do that he does so I can maybe talk to Leo or have him do or that that week on third down so I can prepare something like that. So it was the aspect of like, okay, I got to constantly adjust and be better week after week because you watch film and you're probably watching the three weeks previous leading up to that game. And he's like, okay, does this guy jump set all the time? Does he vertical set? Does he use his hands well?

Well, it's the same way for D-Line. But it's they're all over the board. And that's why D-Lymin are kind of tough to kind of scout is because they play every dude differently. And so you have no idea how they're going to play you. Do they think they can bowl rush you all game or do they think they're going to be a spin move or a push pull or all that stuff? So it's in the NFL, what's so much different than college is it's a constant chess match of how you want to play certain situations, how their defense is going to play. What are they going to do to try and stop you? And that was the big that was the biggest adjustment from high school to college to the NFL.

Yeah, and the same way that you can kind of have guys on your team, like, you know, work moves that you know you're going to see on Sunday, everything like that. Like I would always try to find players like as a defensive tackle, noseguard, guys who would, you know, I felt like was similar play style to me and what they're having success with. Yeah, body type or just similar scheme. And I was like Warren Sapp. Like Bow would watch Warren Sapp a lot. Oh, yeah, Aaron Donald. Yeah. And so I was curious if there's a guy who, you know,

maybe an offensive line where you had common opponents, you saw him on tape, you're like, hey, this is really working for him. He's underpunching here. He's sitting on this or anything like that. And you try to emulate his games. Is there anyone, you know, maybe in your conference and division that you try to emulate a little bit? Yeah. I think the two to three guys that I watched constantly was Chris Lindstrom in the run game.

Like just running off the ball sprinting. That's what we do in our offense. So it's like, I want to watch his footwork and how he attacks a wide three that's tilted or the over-leverage linebacker that he's got to get to. Like, how does he play his backside of the, on the backside of blocks? Like, that's a guy that I studied week in and week out. And then the best part is guy playing left guard, Matthew Bergeron, is phenomenal at base blocks and pass pro. So it's like, I can watch an entire game.

If it's a run play, I watch Chris Lindstrom. And if it's, or outside zone, it's Chris and all that. But then if it's, if it's duo, if it's inside zone, if it's Gapski, I'm watching, I'm watching Burge. And then watching Passover on both of them, because Burge is kind of more of a vertical setter, stays in front of people. Chris is like, it's a bar fight. He's jumping a dude, throwing hands immediately.

And I think those are two guys that I loved watching because they play the game of football differently, but they're both extremely successful. and I try and take a little bit of both from each aspect of their football games. And how tall are you? How tall were you at the Combine exactly? I was just under 6-6. So that's another question. Yeah, I was going to ask because do you round up when people ask you, are you like,

how tall are you? You're like 6-5 and 7-8s, dude. I'm honest about my shit, dude. I say 6-3 and 3-8s, but that's just me. So, hey, you're a tall guard, bro. I mean, like, that's tall. My brother played in the NFL for a long time at Guard, and he was 6, 6, 6, 7. And I felt like at times it gave him an advantage where prototypically you think about a

guard body type. It's more compact, shorter guy, leverage. We just talk about like outside zone. There's got to be definitely big advantages of having your length and quickness being able to overtake a three or that type of thing, getting up to the next level. Like, do you see those advantages now that you played a full six? season in the NFL being a little bit taller than other guys. Yeah, there's definitely advantages, but I always say there's pros and cons to everything

in the game of football. When you're a taller guard, like, yeah, you got some leeway of footwork and climbing to the next level and keeping a guy off of you. But if it's a third and one, you lose leverage battle pretty easily to a guy that's a little shorter in stock year or third down. you're a lot easier to get underneath on a bull rush. So there's pros and cons to everything. So it's how you can combat what you got and what you can work with.

Who's the most sought-off guy you played? Puna Ford. Is there a guy that walked out of the tunnel? And you were like, holy shit, how am I going to block this guy? Look at him. Puna Ford's a great example. Just, dude, just pure raw strength. Like, he picked me up.

Like, he just lifted me up as I was trying to baseball. I'm like, all right, yeah, I can't do anything about it. Kobe Turner's the same way. And I said, I know for a fact that I would 10 times out of 10, I would rather block a bigger, stronger, slower guy than some short stocky, quick dude who's who can go side to side and just like blink of a second. And those two, they, they're such good football players. They're going to give anybody headaches, whoever they go up again.

And then you played our buddy Callais Campbell, who's my age. It's crazy. He's still out there. I love seeing you guys miced up and some of the talking back and forth, but that dude's like 6-8, 6-9. So you're

seeing a whole different thing. I know you probably never blocked a D-Tackle as tall as him. Yeah, I'll tell you what, you make sure you get first touch against Clias or Clay. You make sure you get first touch because if he gets first touch, It's just like, it's over. You're not trying to block him anymore.

You're turning around yelling at the quarterback to throw the ball. Look out. Yeah. That's so funny. He's still dominant at. He's got, he's in his 40s, right? He's got to be close to 40. I think he just turned 40.

I think he just turned 40, so, which is insane as a lineman. Just insane. So he's got football knowledge. He's got like the old man strength, like, dudes, dude's going to play football for as long as you want at this point. Everything, dude, everything. You brought up Kobe Turner. I know you guys have played against each other a lot,

but I saw a photo after the NFC championship game where you went right up to him and had a conversation with him. Very curious what that conversation was about. Is that something you can share with us? Yeah. Well, first off, Kobe Turner is like my kryptonite right now in the game of football. Like, I don't know what it is.

He just got my number. He just works me every single game. But it's so cool because, like, like I said, As much as you want to, like, hate the Rams, like, they're all really good dudes across the board. And, like, Kobe, for an instance, is, like, he's out there and he just smiles. Like, he just plays the game for the love of the game. No question about it. And it was a sad deal because he got a little banged up and he couldn't finish that MFC championship game.

So the moment after the game was done, I just went and talked to him and talked to how awesome he was and what a great game he was and how fun it is. compete against him. And he's just an unbelievable guy. I mean, if anybody watching knows Kobe, they know exactly what I'm talking about because he's top tier. He's what makes the game fun to play against defensive linemen. Cool to hear you talk about that because you guys are obviously opponents and compete against each other, but clearly a mutual respect there.

And, you know, people are always like, oh, what kind of dirty shit's going on in the football games? They don't realize how much mutual respect, you know, you guys have for each other. Well, back in the day, the Seattle, Tom Cable offensive lines, they were just dirtbags. This guy's cool. This guy's great. He's cool. He's giving the Rams love and shit.

Yeah, he's no JR Sweezy, just a fucking meathead baller. Joccovini, my dog, Jocomini, dude. Ayupati. Those fuckers. With Marshawn Lynch running behind him, dude. Have you met Marshawn yet, Gray? Yeah, one of one. I don't even know how to describe them.

That's so great, dude. He just shows up randomly, and you're like, what's up? And he's just the man. You should have him to Pierre and, like, teach him how to be a farmer. He does all types of shit where he, like, gets out of his comfort zone. Yeah, that would be great. I got some fence to pull. Me and him could be pulling fence.

Yeah. Ooh. Dude, I don't know how you. It's a young man's game. Being a farmer, dude. Well, let's talk about that real quick. what kind of tractor do you have man how big is your tractor i'm i'm almost afraid to tell you what kind of tractor i have because you're going to be like that's like a little like mini that's like a little

mini cooper compared to what you have probably well i just i just got a new one this spring for spring work but i got a case i h 310 magnum and then we have like a we have a 10 magna we have a 4588 yeah i got a 4588 case and then just like a 95 horsepower case iH utility tractor it's a pretty big tractor there oh yeah you got so it's got it's like a duly tractor huh oh yeah it's got front duels and back duels it's it gets the job down dude i bet it does do you do is that your happy place being up in the cab do you have AC you definitely have AC in there you definitely got music in there yeah Well, this is the first year we said it's a first year that not only we had AC and heat,

but we had a buddy seat and we had auto steer. So we just basically quadrupled our equipment net worth and in one purchase. No shit. That's incredible. I just got a cab this year with AC and I'm really excited about it. It's fucking great. I don't spend as much time as you in there, but that's crazy. What do you guys?

All right, let me ask you this. If you could end the drought right now this year, which I think is affecting you guys as well, we have a drought here. I'm sure it's not great in South Dakota. Would you shave your mustache forever to end the drought? Yeah, 100%. 100%.

That's business, bro. I would shave my mustache on the spot if it's like, we'll give you an inch of rain over a day. So like it's a slow rain. Everything's going to soak up. I'd be like, where's, where's the razor? Let's do it. Do you just, do you stare at your weather app like for days on end? Is that kind of the way it goes? Yeah. I mean, me and my dad, like, I'll come home from lifting in the morning and it'll be like, have you checked seven day forecast? 10 to 14, we're above average in moisture. Seven day, we're supposed to get some on Monday. And I'm like, yep. Yeah. Like, I'll start praying

and doing the rain dance out in the middle of my field. We hope you get rain, bro. I hope you don't have to shave the mustache. Do you look good with it? Yeah, yeah, dude. Just bring it out a little bit. Come on. We wish you luck, man.

And we enjoy talking to you and enjoy watching your play. It's a lot of fun, man. You're ahead of your times, man, for sure. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. Yeah, congrats on the Super Bowl and everything. I hope you come back again. Absolutely.

Well, dude. this was a great time and appreciate you guys having me on and excited to keep watching watching the podcast come on wherever you want thanks yeah give us a couple yeah we need the views brother we need the views like you need the rain yeah exactly i'm not shaving my mustache for no views though chris we don't need them that bad me neither you know all right bro hey gray appreciate you absolutely yes take care right dude