Green Light with Chris Long - Shane Steichen! Anthony Richardson, Eagles Memories & Colts 2024 Outlook! Mike Macdonald & Dan Quinn Hires & GLP at SB LVIII with Toyota!

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

A wild and wonderful Freak Show Friday at the Green Light Podcast. Chris, Macon and 'Bad Back' Badke hit a number of topics. We start by sharing a little bit of our plan for the Super Bowl in Las Vegas - the fun we'll have all presented by Toyota. Then Chris shares his excitement after seeing Godzilla Minus 1 and Macon shares his excitement meeting Nolan Ryan. We then talk coaching hires - Mike Macdonald in Seattle and Dan Quinn in Washington, before inviting on Shane Steichen to talk the Colts 2023 season, nearly making the playoffs, Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew, Shane's memories with the Philadelphia Eagles and being a part of the tush push implementation. After Shane, Chris remembers his super bowl memories from the Patriots and the Eagles and then we end with an entertaining ad men. Enjoy! (00:00) - Chris and Kyle's Madden league (8:00) - Green Light at Super Bowl LVIII in Las Vegas presented by Toyota (12:40) - Godzilla Mins 1 is Chris' new favorite movie (20:00) - Macon meets Nolan Ryan (26:45) - Chris' thoughts on Mike Macdonald hired by Seattle and Dan Quinn hired by Washington (51:15) - Shane Steichen on the Indianapolis Colts, Anthony Richardson, Gardner Minshew, play calling intricacies, memories from the Eagles and the Tush Push (1:21:55) - Chris' Super Bowl memories with the Patriots and the Eagles (2:00:05) - Ad Men: Travis Kelce, Justin Tucker and Dan Campbell Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I mean, shoot, I'll say this about the tush push. Obviously, it's taken off, and we all know that. But the tush push has been around for a long time. When teams are backed up on the half-yard line, what are they doing back there? They're running victory sneak. Like, that's what teams do. We just, the Philadelphia Eagles brought it to the field of play. So it's been around.

It's not like it's been around probably for who knows, you know what I mean? Probably before we always talk about, oh, man, hey, let's run this play. I don't know if this has ever been done. Oh yeah, it's probably been none in 1965. Thanks to Toyota and the brand new Toyota Tacoma. Next week, we'll be broadcasting from the NFL Media Center in Las Vegas from the most badass set in all of Radio Row. That's right, the all-new 2024 Toyota Tacoma,

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Welcome to the Green Light podcast. A busy show for you all today on Friday. We've got Shane Steichen, the Indianapolis Colts head coach. He's going to pop on. Talk a little gardener mince. You talk a little Anthony Richardson. Talk about the Colts' 20-23 season, how much fun it was, and recap his first season at the helm of an NFL club.

He also gives out some Super Bowl memories with the Eagles, talks to the tush push, and gives a little love to Big Dom. Outside of Shane today, Chris is going to talk some of the coaching hires we saw, Mike McDonald to the Seahawks, and then Dan Quinn getting the nod in Washington. He's going to give his takes on both those. We hear a little Godzilla minus one review that Chris saw last night, making ran into Nolan Ryan at the UVA basketball game. And then after Shane, we talked some Super Bowl memories of Chris's,

what the Greenlight crew gets to look forward to in Las Vegas, and then a little bit of admin. The fellas had some fun with it. A wonderful show. just be aware there might be some spoilers in that Godzilla minus one review from Chris. So enjoy the show and we will catch you Monday. I'm playing through a toothache today. Acute tooth pain has caused when either you have a dental tooth infection, decay injury or loss of a tooth.

I'm not aware of any of these things. I'm going to talk about John Madden football in a second. I am joining a John Madden football league. Kyle Long and his loser friends play with regularity against each other in a franchise mode, John Madden League. He propositioned me last week to join the league. I was tapped. He sent me a list of teams that I could choose from.

Jets, Ravens, Browns, Colts, Raiders, Broncos, commanders, Packers, Falcons, Rams, Seahawks, and Cardinals. Browns. I know what you're thinking. Pick a good defense. Pick a good team. I don't want to coach Deshaun Watson. I don't want to deal with that contract. This is a league that goes on for years now.

So you've got to think about Cap in 2024. How long is this music going to play? The whole time we're talking about John Madden. And if you know the title of the song, it's called Raiders. Now that's who I selected. I selected the Las Vegas Raiders. Listen, I'm thinking about the future. I'm thinking about Devante Adams just being better than any corner than anybody has in this league.

I'm thinking about Josh Jacobs. I'm thinking about 2024. Do I have to trade Max Crosby? You know, because controlling a defensive end in that game isn't that fruitful. And maybe I can get something for him. We need a franchise quarterback. What have I gotten myself into? We'll find out.

Do you draft? I think you do draft. How does that work? Or you probably just get the Raiders players. I think you start from scratch with the Raiders right now in 2023. So go backwards a little bit. And then I think in 2024, there are drafts. Oh, you can draft?

I think I get to draft. Oh, that is dope. Yeah, it's really cool. Do you want to join the league? Yeah, actually. Really? Yes, because I wasn't going to say this, and then I decided I was going to say it, like a couple seconds ago.

I have a couple hours at night usually. All right, there we go. That's when the games are played, after bedtimes. I mean, all these guys are like us. I've gotten the itch. It's back. Okay, cool. So I'll talk to Kyle and see if we can get you in a little.

league. I can hardly think over this fucking music. Well, let's turn the music down and get into the podcast. I mean, goodness. Listen, what have I gotten myself into? I've downloaded an app called Discord to communicate with Kyle. Like, I'm a total gamer now. And I asked him, I said,

do PC gamers have an advantage over guys like me who are playing on PS5? He said, no, I don't know if that's true or not. Dog, this roster is kind of rough. I know. But I'd rather, you know, it's like a built-in excuse when I don't win year one. it's like well i picked the fucking raiders man yeah you know and i think it'd be a lot of fun

to to uniform is a big part of it i i looked at the broncos hard because you can actually in madden change your your uniforms i could do color rush i could go back and do the old like uh steve outwater broncos color rush all the way i know but the cap dude you've got the 13th overall yeah yeah that because it's this it's right now right you have russ yeah now if if i pick the broncos what can i do with him next year? Can I just keep him under contract? You might, you might want to wait, you know, to join or pick your team like a couple weeks because apparently the rust to Atlanta Falcons is a real rumor. Man, I might need to talk to Kyle today. Hey, Reed, I'm going to start a super Tecmo Bowl league. Oh, yeah. I'd love to go back and play some Tecmo Bowl. I can remember

playing Tecmo Bowl. In Tecmo Bowl, when guys got hurt, they showed this still graphic of the guy like leaving the hospital in a full uniform and like with like flowers as if people would drop flowers off after you got a surrogate I'd never got flowers so I would play with my dad my dad would get hurt and he'd be leaving the hospital with a bouquet of flowers all right so I'll keep you posted on the madden league I think I'm going to get a Twitch account honestly I have no idea how it works but maybe we'll get into Twitch here at Greenlight fun you should do it okay if I don't get in I just heard about a number of team vacancies so I'll be a bit upset Yeah, that's true.

It'll be a something taking. Well, I think there's not 32 guys, but I'm pretty sure there's no limit. Okay. You know, so I'll talk to them now. I'll see what I can do. All right, thanks. All right, housekeeping. Housekeeping?

Now, I've got some big Super Bowl announcement. We're going to talk about the Super Bowl later, but we've got merch coming up next week, Super Bowl week. People have been asking me, where do you get that good looking lid? There's no guarantee that it's going to fit your head like it fits my head. But it is a wonderful lid, and we've got some good merch that's going to be hitting the internet next next week wednesday um including these hats so keep an eye out for that when you what is the website yeah when you see us on radio row we're going to be out there you'll see us rocking

some cool gear not just the hats the cool hats but also we got some t-shirts and hoodies so where can we get these stickers uh we'll have a link for everybody you can go on there you can order that builds the intrigue yeah yeah like i can't buy it now but next wednesday yeah next wednesday yeah can i put a request in yeah berets headband dervies want a headband you want a green light redstone you want a green light headband. I want a headband. Like a Zach Wilson kind of headband? Nah, I wouldn't really want to bring him into it, but yeah, I want a headband. Like a Jim McMahon. Who, by the way, we are trying to see Jim McMahon out in Vegas. I just want to say that he's a guest on our list that we're trying to get. There's a lot of guests that we

might get in Vegas. And we might get a lot of guests right there, right outside Radio Row in the media center. This is big news, okay? Drum roll. Well, I don't need a drum roll. maybe I've mentioned this before in the show, but I'm really excited to be partnering with Toyota. We are partnering with Toyota at the Super Bowl. We will be broadcasting from the Tacoma content studio inside the NFL Media Center. Tons of great guests, charity challenge, et cetera, would be doing some grid stuff. We're going to have a ton of guests coming through there. Some of the names I've already gotten are fantastic. Okay. So stay tuned for that. The whole gang's going out there. We'll talk about that later. But basically,

there's like the media center and there'll be a Tacoma in there it's a beautiful truck I think we should do the podcast inside the Tacoma because not a lot of podcasts are doing you know content inside vehicles I think we could be real trail trailblazers and it'll be quiet it'll be quiet inside the the cab and it's a comfy cab I've been inside a Tacoma and I'm a big guy and I can roomie at Tacoma you made love inside a Toyota you did have you um I've been a Toyota owner my whole life almost got you uh say no more say no more i love toyota man so here's the deal this is a dream for me sometimes with products you're like yeah that sounds cool makes some money and sometimes with products it's like we can make a lot of money and we can sell for one of my favorite brands

which is toyota i am a toyota driver my favorite like physical possession outside of like a living human being, which isn't really a possession. My kids, I don't want to call them possessions, but you get the idea. It's a, it's a 1990 FJ 62. And yeah, I do have an LS1 in there. I did drop a little bit more horsepower under the hood, but that's my favorite truck in the world. I've driven an FJ cruiser. I've had the forerner. I drove the forerner all the way from L.A. to Virginia, one stop in Flagstaff, Arizona. That thing was a beast. And now I got a Tundra. And I don't, I don't see how I'm going back. So I'm a big Toyota guy. I was psyched when they asked. And Toyota is, of course, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Plus,

quarterbacks drive F-150s. You don't want that. That's why it's the perfect brand marriage, me and Toyota, right? Sam Bradford had an F-150. It was totally fucking clean inside. He didn't do anything with the F-150. It's a perfect representation of what that brand's about. So you can buy a San Bradford truck, a quarterback truck, where they make all these rules. We don't need all those rules to keep us safe. The Toyota's plenty safe and luxury appointed and roomy inside. 2004 Chevy Silverado, you need a tailgate step. You really need a tailgate step? My dad did a commercial. Howie Long? Exactly. My dad did a commercial with Chevy and he was like, look at my tailgate step. You know what happened when he got home? His testosterone dropped.

My mom won't even look at him. So just a couple quick Googles here. Toyota is the superior truck, and we are partnering with the official automotive partner of the NFL. Toyota equals testosterone. You named a media company Yote House after Toyota. After Toyota, clearly. So say no more. And Japanese engineering is just better. Yeah.

I learned that last night watching Godzilla. It was amazing. Godzilla minus one. It was amazing what those Japanese folks were able to do that giant lizard. Yeah, I had a lot of edibles last night. Godzilla. All right. Yeah. I love going to the movies. Yeah, this movie fits me. I mean, like, this is a movie that I would guess I would like. But I've never been obsessed with a monster movie before. And this thing was a cinematic masterpiece. It's a story about redemption. It's a story of

heroism. It's a story of cowardice. And it's a tale of the duality of man and a giant lizard. and how those things can come up, you know, for the same person. I'm going to share the plot with you in a second. So spoilers, spoiler alert, if you haven't seen Godzilla minus one. But it is a fucking cinematic masterpiece. I was, my jaw was on the ground. Bad back back, he was there last night. I looked over, I don't know what part it was.

I think it was with the minds. Probably the mind. I looked over at you and Tom and the faces and how you were just leaning forward and then like 10 minutes later I looked and you were in the same position I could not move I could not move my jaw was on the floor it's an incredible movie I think that one of the scenes in this movie is the top five action scene in in cinematic history I know I can do the the hyperbolic shit on a day like today like I said last night I got home and uh and I was about the tweet about it I was like you know the tweets went something like this it was like I there's a lot of things I want to say right now that I'm not

going to say and I want to sleep on it, you know, but let me just say that this is a cinematic masterpiece. I'm comfortable saying that before I go to bed. I slept on it. I still feel that way. I come home and I fire up the X machine and Stephen A. Smith, who I guess he's got a Stephen A. Smith show, which is probably my favorite show to watch on YouTube. I think he's tremendous, just Stephen A in a microphone at this stage in his career. He's power ranking Pokemon characters. he's answering mailbag questions. He's just at that stage in his career where he can do whatever the fuck you wants.

He's like us, but with a lot of money, with a lot of cash flow coming into the operation. And somebody asked him, who would win King Kong or Godzilla? And Stephen A had the audacity to say that King Kong would win. Hand up. Did not know there was a difference.

Between King Kong and Godzilla? One and the same to me until this moment. I've never seen any of this shit. It is respectful. is so stupid. But go, yeah, go on. To Stephen A, I would say. Are you serious?

1947? Godzilla did 30,000 kills at Ginza in one breach? The same year, the same year, in 1947, he, he, he destroyed a heavy cruiser, and he played through a detonated mine. All in the same year in 1947. What is King Kong done to be even in this conversation? Godzilla shoots radiation out of his mouth. He regenerates.

He survives mind detonations. He can swim. The only way they killed him was flying a plane into his fucking mouth, which is not as easy as it sounds. So I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, they did a really good job of making it kind of the old school style with the black and white in all. like they nailed they nailed them you know can i can i let you in on something i don't know if you knew this because when i got home last night and you know like i just kept taking more gummies in the movie and then when i was dropped off at home uh the gummies just kept hitting so i was sitting at home and i was just dumbfounded texting all the guys in the group chat and some of

had seen godzilla and by the way two of our friends from the same family took their children under age eight to see that movie. I think that qualifies as child abuse. That was like, I don't know what Godzilla movie, a six-year-old is going to be okay with, but it wasn't this one. Okay. So I was saying the same thing. We're in this movie and I'm like, what a cool artistic touch. You know, it's all subtitles too, by the way, which was fine. The movie was so good, I would watch it without the subtitled as well. We were cultured. But we're sitting there halfway through and I'm like, this is just so artistic. It's in black and white. The movie starts and I'm like, okay, they'll probably flip back to color soon like because this is a flashback or something but no the whole movie's in black

and white and that's a re-release when i saw it two weeks ago it was all color that's the problem i get home and i'm like how about the touch of putting it in black and white and the guys are like you fucking idiots you went and watched the black and white Godzilla you need to go see the color godzola so basically i think we're good i've got an no we're not good i need to go back and see it in color you want to see the color i'm going to go back and see it again and i can tell you i have never gone back and watch a movie twice in theaters. I would go back tonight and see it in color. What's Godzilla's favorite sport?

Squash. Okay, that's good. That's good. That's good. Godzilla's powerful, man. I think King Kong's in trouble. I thought the twists in this movie were incredible. I thought the action in this movie was incredible. I thought the story in this movie was incredible.

And I would see it again. I'd see it tonight. I would see it tonight. If you want to go back tonight, I would see it tonight. Am I exaggerating on this thing? It was really good. It was really good. It's awesome. One of my favorite movies I've seen all year.

Were you on drugs too, Pinkson? I was, yes. Okay. All right. So maybe I'll go back and... What did the dairy farmers say when they saw Godzilla? Monster. Oh, okay.

That's good. That's good. Holy cow works too. Yeah, that was good. Cal said the one listening or else. By the way, also Planet of the Apes is coming out May 10th. And I felt like that melted my face, too. Just watching that preview.

I have a tough time with the monkeys. Talking. In English. Really? Yeah. You were okay with the giant lizard? I'm totally okay with it. But the monkeys can't talk?

Yeah. Too much for me. I did feel like there, obviously there was panic when he would come. But then afterwards, everyone was kind of like, okay, he's gone. Back to normal. And you're like, well, I don't know about being normal. They couldn't do anything because, and of course I'm talking about this like it's a real event. But do you know what I mean?

Like the after effects, there wasn't a lot of fear going on. Well, no, there was fear, but they're Japanese people. Like they're stoic. They know that we've got to do what's best for the country. And the best thing for the country was not doing anything because they didn't want the Soviets to see that they were engaging in some sort of military exercise. And then they'd be upshitz Creek in war, too. So anyways, I guess that what I took away.

from the movie is that being a coward pays. You know, because if he hadn't been a coward, he wouldn't have survived the kamikaze attack. He wouldn't have lived through the attack of Ginza. And he wouldn't have been able to fly that plane into Godzilla's mouth. So I think the movie's right up your alley in that sense. That's funny. Maybe the redemption art is more me, you know?

That's good. You know? I wanted to speak to you about a guy named Nolan Ryan. Okay. Seven no hitters, most ever. 12-1 hitters, most ever. 18-2 hitters, most ever. 32-3 hitters, most ever.

Okay? 383 strikeouts in the season, that's most ever. 300-plus strikeout season six times. That's the most ever. Most strikeouts ever, this guy. He averaged 1.06 strikeouts per inning. You're a pitcher for 5,386 innings. He averaged more than a strikeout.

But he got to throw overhand. In inning, true, true. In 1980, at age 33, you following along? I'm with you. Nolan Ryan recorded his 3,000th strikeout. Then, after that, he struck out more batters than Warren Spahn, Bob Feller, Juan Marischall, Tom Glavin, and Don Drysdale did in their entire career. I mean, this guy, you got to be kidding me with this guy. How many decades did he play for?

Is that it? No, it's not it. Oh, okay. His numbers retired by three teams for crying out loud. Yeah. This Nolan Ryan. And last night on Nolan's 77th birthday, he took in the who's playing hoops here in Charlottes.

He was here. You're kidding me. Courtside for Virginia and Notre Dame, who's won by 12. Told you the Hoos were going to win by 12. Yeah, I know, I know. Nolan was a guest of John Grisham here in Charlottesville. I don't know if they're talking about, I don't know.

A baseball book. Probably a Seamhead book. Yeah. Maybe they want to see Godzilla together. Now, it was, so I spent a little time with the Ryan Express. And it wasn't clear if he knew who I was, but I think there was like an unspoken mutual respect thing going on, me and Nolan, you know?

Hey, how does Nolan Ryan order his beer? How? By the pitcher. Nice, nice. You keep going. Which brings me to my next point. So, all right, you bring out the t-shirt gun, right? Yeah.

I caught a t-shirt. And then I tossed it to a kid, right? Because I'm a gangster. But the whole time I was thinking about how I needed credit for catching the shirt and giving it to a youngster and I wasn't going to get it. Which makes me what kind of guy? Kind of like a good guy, but one who's... Not an altruistic good guy. Just always in search of validation.

A good guy that's a good guy that's... it's calculating. So I walked out of the row so slowly at the end of the game, waiting for the kid's parents to be like, thank you so much, hero, you know? Because the kid's holding up the t-shirt,

taking a picture with it at the end of the game, with the cord in the background, the whole thing. I'm just looking around, just waiting. Dad's got a freaking Irish thing on a shirt, by the way. Nothing.

Not a thank you. Nothing. Nothing. I have kids. I could have gone home and given the t-shirt to my kids. Probably an extra dollar. It wasn't worked out. I was expecting a little more interaction here.

I caught a t-shirt at the game, 15,000 people here. Is that your first t-shirt yet? Yeah, I don't know. Act like you've been there before. I did. Well, I did because I threw it to a youngster. And that's the move. That's the veteran move.

All right, now I'll wrap with this, okay? Virginia, by the way, left for dead a couple weeks ago, now seven and three in the league. What do we always say about them? They can improve. Iying approximately a 10th consecutive regular season crown at this point. Virginia plays Miami at home on Monday. Virginia does not need gimmicks. This is an atmosphere that need not be gimmicky,

but we're doing a whiteout. And Tony Bennett has an opportunity to do one of the funniest things in coaching history. We have five competent white players. How great would it be? Like a senior day thing. You roll out five seniors. It's a whiteout.

Let me add this to you. We're sticking with the baseball. fans, which bring Sammy Sosa in. There you go. Noted a noted white person, Sammy Sosa. Anything else on Nolan Ryan?

I have something. Yeah. How does Nolan Ryan order his burgers? I don't know. Slider, please. How, uh, all right. Okay.

I had a phone call with Chris yesterday. He said, uh, you want to come to the movie? I said, no I'm gonna go to a basketball game he said what what do you like I said well I haven't seen the line but virginia won by 12 let me look at the line line was 12 and half by god virginia wins by 12 so I asked you for advice on that and I'll ask you guys for advice on another thing and I asked you about this last

week if somebody in your neighborhood and I don't really live in a neighborhood to be to be clear I live in like I live on a gravel road that has probably five houses sounds right you sold me the house so there are properties that are large and a butt they they butt each other yeah yeah uh and there's a number of dogs in the neighborhood but i don't know the dogs right i hear the dogs i don't know the dogs and there's this dog that keeps getting loose running through the woods coming to my house and just hanging out and this is probably been going on for two three months and the first time the dog came we were like whose dog is this we look at the tag or call the person the person is not answering for quite a while.

It's like they're not concerned about the dog. The dog just has like a dog knows how to get back. Yeah. And we've got a gal who watches my kids who does not have a dog. And every time she's over and the dog comes over, she's like, I love this dog. Can I take the dog home for a little bit? I'm like, no, we got to return the dog. We return the dog.

It happens again and again like intermittently the dog shows up and it's just hanging out all day. So at one point I'm like hey grace and take the dog. Yeah. Just take the dog home, watch a movie with dog, do whatever you want with the dog because the owner's not responding. Yeah. Promptly.

Um, if it happens five, seven times at a certain point, can we just take the dog? My answer is- Like I'm talking about like the person doesn't respond till the next morning about the dog. My answer is absolutely yes. Right. The dog is crying out for help. Right. The dog were happy at home.

The dog would be at home. Looking for companionship. Yeah. Absolutely keep the dog. Keep the dog. Yeah. Next time. Five, seven times.

You know who I'm talking about. Pallible deniability, please. Okay. All right. Coaching. We got to talk coaches. Listen, here's my big takeaway from the hiring cycle the last two days. We got old.

We got old in this room, okay? because we're going to talk about Mike McDonald in a second from Baltimore getting the Seattle job. The guy that replaced him is 31. Zachor. Zachor. 31. 31 years old. Wow.

And one of the 90s. That's scary. Isn't that wild? Yeah. And it barely been around for Y2K. Wow. You know, and so this guy's getting hired. And Mike McDonald, who's 36, and you said it before he's young, he looks young.

Here's the problem Mike's going to have. We had Shane on. Shane looks like us. Shane, I'm like, okay, that's a 38-year-old man. You know, this McDonald guy looks young. Mike's going to have to carry his credentials around. Yeah. The facility for a little while until they figure out who he is because the security guards get, hey, no autographs.

They're going to stop him. No autographs, kid. Right. But McVeigh was young as hell when he started. This stuff can work in today's. McVeigh had the shark attack. He had the kind of thing. This kid's, I mean, kid, he looked.

looks like he's 15. Yeah, he looks like he's 50. You know? And he's 36 and Pete Carroll is exactly 72. So if you do the math there, that's 2x. That's literally when he was born, you know, Pete's 36 years old. So it's wild to me that they go defense to defense, but just the delta in experience and in years on the job and years on the planet. I don't think it's a huge impediment to winning, having a young coach, especially with his track record.

And obviously those guys loved him. You hear Patrick Queen talk about him. I also think having seven years experience in one place like Baltimore is really invaluable. We always look at these coaches' resumes and they bounce around a lot sometimes, but this guy's been in Baltimore and Michigan for most of the last seven, eight years of his life. And I think when you've got a place that has continuity like Baltimore and you can learn a lot of the same thing, your learning is not disrupted year to year. It's great to see different schemes and it's great to hear from different coaches and learn

different things at different stops. But I do think there's something to the continuity of like soaking that building in for six, seven years. And so obviously the culmination for him this year was a defensive coordinator where he leads the league in scoring sacks and takeaways, which is something that I don't know if I read this correctly has never been done until now. I mean, to lead the league in those three categories. So obviously historically good. When you looked at when you talked about Baltimore and Kansas City, one of the things I kept hearing was like, this is the best team that Patrick Holmes has played in the playoffs. You know, if you look at things like DVOA and that sort of thing, of course, if you watch

ball, you know that in the playoffs, it's different. So why are we just judging this team off of regular season DVOA? Having said that, that defense did not disappoint per se in that AFC championship game. And I think part of it, when you look at Baltimore, from their perspective is this was the one thing we knew we could hang our hat on. Now, Lamar's great. The offense is exciting. But that defense played up to their standard in that big spot.

And this guy's now walking out the door. And, you know, that's a good thing, right, for him to have the momentum. It's like Dan Quinn, we're going to talk about him in a second. Dan doesn't need to prove anything. He, you know, he's got to prove it on the job. But, you know, I think if he were a young coach and had that performance in the divisional round, if you're a young coach like Mike, maybe that effect. the way an owner thinks about you, but he's got a longer track record. So for McDonald to nail it

in the AFC championship, even though I thought Kansas City moved the ball, you know, and that sort of thing, that defense is undoubtedly a beast. And I also think relative to the guys they have on the field, I don't mean they don't have great players. They have some great players. And I got in trouble earlier this year because I said they just don't have those superstar names, especially up front. Like before Matt Abakee did what he did this year, I don't think most people would think about him as an elite dude. I now put him in that category because that was incredible production. But Clowney was a retread and somebody inconsistent and he got the best out of him. You talk about Patrick Queen's best year, you know, sticking the landing on adding a stud linebacker

that cost you a lot and improving your entire defense. Kyle Hamilton using him in a ton of different ways. Gino Stone being a turnover machine. That secondary is very good. and they were ball hawks. But I think what's exciting for Seattle is, I don't look at that Baltimore defense and say, you know, they're deeper or better than us on the back end.

In fact, I look at it the other way. I look at Seattle's secondary and say you've got two stud young quarters at something you can build around. And when you've got a guy who can manufacture pressure, you don't need to cut to the front of line on elite defensive linemen. So they have some very good players up front, some promising young guys like Maffei. Dorel Taylor, who I think is a contract year,

but he could be back. There are guys up front that I liked on that group. So you know what I'm saying? You don't have to have blue chip edge guys with a guy like Mike. It'd be great to have them down the line and they've been accustomed to having them there. I also think what's interesting

is if they become a formidable pass rush unit and they should because of their corners, that's a loud place to play. You have such an advantage. Think about being a quarterback in front of the 12s. You can barely hear yourself think, and this defense is as multiple as it is.

I think it's going to work out pretty well on a defensive side of the football. The thing you just don't know what the young guy is, what's he going to be like as a head coach? I've heard great things about him. And I also think for Seattle making the move in division and saying, hey, we're going to buck the trend. The two guys that we're looking up at are offensive gurus.

when this cycle started i wondered if seattle would say hey it's an arms race we need ben johnson right but they go with defense and i wonder how intentional that is now they took their time who knows who said no but like i think there's a good setup with a good gm an established guy a defensive wiz and somebody that does something different than a lot of the other not a lot of half the other teams two-thirds of the other teams in division do. And like if you look at Shanahan this year, they got after Kyle. Now the other side of the coin is McVeigh got after them in Baltimore a little bit. So it'll be interesting to see how these matchups play out.

The two biggest questions for me when it comes to a young coach like this, in this scenario specifically is what do you do with Gino, right? You can cut him and save some money. I would not do that. I think if you're a young defensive coach, if you're going to be drafting, moving up to pick the fourth best quarterback in the draft or something like that or bringing in a veteran, that might change, you know, the latter option might change the Gino conversation. But I think if you're drafting, you know, let's say you want to go up and get the hometown kid in Michael Pennix or something, Gino would be a tremendous leader, a tremendous voice for him, a good dude to develop under. and if you're a rookie head coach, you know, I understand the cap situation and you might want to shed some of that. But like what's it going to feel better looking at next year like 10 and 10 and 7 or starting over and running the risk of going backwards?

Because you are not entering a situation where it's like a mushroom cloud. They've been good the last two years. So the expectations are going to be a little bit higher. I would use Gino as a bridge. I really would. And the second question for me is, what's his staff look like? That's always a big one. We talk about having head coaches in the building, former head coaches, to help counsel a young guy.

What's the staff look like? I don't think you need to go anywhere to get Pinnock. They're at 16. You think he could fall to 16? Yeah. Yeah. Except reports came out that he had an incredibly long hand size. So he might rise.

He might rise. Big hands. Also, another reason he might rise is like you think about how quickly the first three quarterbacks, might go off the board. Like, I've seen some mocks where Jaden Daniels is up high. So like, I think we'll go three, yeah. If you're one of those teams that, you know, that's in the back half of 10 or something and you like Pennix, like Seattle might have to move up to get him from 16.

Maybe. I wrote a little ditty. Yeah. Young McDonald got a team H-A-W-K-S. And on that team, he had a D-K-H-W-KS with a truck stick here and a truck stick there. Here a truck, they're a stick, everywhere a truck stick. Young McDonald got a team. H-A-W-K-S to take on old McDonald's.

How do I die? Oh, I mean, you know like that? That couldn't end quick enough. You guys are serious? Yeah. I listened to 15 minutes of Godzilla. I'm cringing. I'm cringing.

It's too again. Godzilla would have been more fun if everybody in the room was into Godzilla. So it's like it's hard to judge the Godzilla's second. I think you would have liked that song if you had 17 out of a freezing. A freezing cold vibe magnet sitting next to me during a movie. That is true. Makes you right.

Yeah. Hey, I think this is a great spot for a quarterback. If I was a guy in the draft, I'd love to be a part with Gino Smith. The ups and downs this guy's had in his career, what a great mentor to have. It'd be great.

And honestly, I just would do that because I think about, and I don't know what assurance has been given to them because a lot of time to talk this plans out. And they're like, hey, listen, we're going to cut Gene. know we know you this first year might be tough or whatever but i kind of would be of the school of thought like let's stay good until we're great you know and and that that would that would entail hitting on a quarterback so you got to hit on a quarterback whoever it is and you take the time to develop him and you

stay relevant until you you hand over the reins i think i think that type of of of schedule would be nice for this franchise and you just talked about filling out their staff it was reported a little while ago that the Alabama offensive coordinator, Ryan Grubb, might head back to Washington. He's under consideration to become the next OC for the Seahawks. He was the play caller for the University of Washington under Kalin DeBoer and went to Alabama. Oh, how interesting. And he was going to start his first season, but now he might jump back. Oh, that's interesting. Isn't that interesting? Just makes you say, hmm, real quick on McDonald.

Yeah, you get another parable. we need to get this straight from Jump Street. It's capital M and then all the other letters are lowercase. I know it's weird. Typically you see the capital D in the McDonald. Yeah. Lower case D McDonald. That's also important.

It is. So the other guy that I want to talk about is Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn, obviously, the other day I hopped on Commander's Reddit because I was like, how are they feeling when Ben Johnson said he wanted to stay? I just want to see this poor embattled fan base, albeit with Josh Harris at the helm now. Like you're what the fuck, dude. We got to draft a quarterback. We're going to have a defensive head coach.

People are freaking out about Dan Quinn. I just want to say this. What's impressive about Dan Quinn? Firstly, 28 to 3, depending on how you look at it, it's the biggest failure or it's also like kind of impressive. Like that team I was on was really good. They were up 28 to 3 on us. He got that team ready to play. And with under four minutes or about four minutes ago, they're up eight.

And they have a chance to win that game. And, you know, like I could look at Dan Quinn. He should be walking over in that situation to Kyle Shanahan and saying, hey, motherfucker, we're running the football. And maybe that's the lesson he learned. And I'm sure that conversation has come up and had coaching interviews since. But I don't put all of it on him. I put part of it on him.

I don't look at him as not being viable. of that situation. You know, like for the simple fact that, hey, the other guy that blew that lead is in the Super Bowl this week. So, like, blowing a lead on a big stage as a head coach in the NFL or a coordinator, it's not a death sentence. And I think he's probably learned from it, but also look at it from the standpoint of, like, it's also pretty impressive to jump Bill Belichick in a Super Bowl like that.

Have you ever seen that happen in any of the other Super Bowls they were in? Now, they couldn't hold the lead. and the players on the field made plays. Dan Quinn didn't blow a protection when Dante Hightower came in unblocked. Dan Quinn, you know, didn't get beat for a sack by Trey Flowers. Dan Quinn didn't do a lot of that stuff in the second half. Like the players have to make plays. But I'm just saying I don't hold that whole thing against him.

What you're looking at as a guy who was this close to beating Bill Belichick in a Super Bowl. And I know close horseshoes, hand grenades, but he might get another opportunity and he might be way better prepared. and that would be pretty good. And I look at Dan Quinn and I say, the thing that impressed me the most looking back at his time in Atlanta was, look at this staff.

Don't look any further than Kyle Shanahan. Because when he hired Kyle Shanahan, he wasn't Kyle Shanahan. He was not a hot commodity. Their offense was not that good in Cleveland. And, you know, it was probably a head scratcher for some people. I don't want to do revisionist history here, but I don't feel like that was a hot name.

you've got one head coach on your staff you've got Rahim Morris on your staff he's now a head coach you had you had LaFleur on your staff he's a head coach he had LaFleur's brother you had McDaniel head coach now Jeff Ulbrick on your staff Jeff Ulbrick probably gets more looks in this cycle if it's not for that team being so shitty right because they were really good like third and EPA per play up in New York that's really tough to do I mean and so having by the way Manuel just got an interview with Jacksonville. He's not going to get the job, but that's another duty he had on his staff. So there's a ton of great coaches that he brought on that staff. And a lot of them, a few of them, were not who they are now. And so I'm not saying he has a tree, but it's pretty cool that he

assembled the staff in Atlanta. And I think there is some intentionality about that, and he didn't do it on accident. So he was this close. He's also really into, you know, shooting foul shots before meetings that whole p carroll thing i know bob meyers had a lot to do with this hire right the gm of the warriors right uh josh harris is like i need a basketball guy that makes a lot of sense this guy likes shoot free throws before the fucking meetings so uh never been to a team though never coached on a team where they had to make a decision like this you know and i think that's the unique thing is when he was in seattle and they made the turn to russ like i don't remember if he was there when they drafted russ i believe he was he was there when they drafted russ russ russ he was there when they drafted russ

they didn't have to do what they have to do now. And as much as Caleb Williams might draw a comparison to Russ, you know, in some ways. I know people are doing the lazy Mahomes thing, but say you looked at it like, hey, there's a Russ thing. We can win with a Russ type guy. Whatever you think of his mental makeup relative to Russell Wilson, it's all the same, though. They didn't draft in top five. You know, that guy fell to them. So this is uncharted territory for him on that hand.

I also think what's interesting about this is the judge. GM came from San Francisco, sharp guy. Everybody likes this guy. When you draft in the West Coast system, you think about the system that these guys are playing in, right? Like, those are the guys that he's come up over the last five to six years, the GM from San Francisco Peters, I think is his name, Adam Peters, who you said is good looking. Yeah, he's handsome. Good looking guy. He's used to West Coast offense personnel offensively. And I'm not saying like guys can't play in a West Coast offense and you know vice versa but he comes from that school of thought even as a personnel guy and dan quinn where he had a lot of success in alana was shanahan and so when i look at eric bianami

i wonder how he factors in because eric i think and he's one of these guys whose name has cooled off a little bit he was a really hot name and i didn't hear about him in this cycle even with the first half of the season the way it went for them offensively i think the second half didn't go as well. So maybe he cooled off in that way. But are you going to pick a West Coast guy offensively to run the show? I'm not sure, but I look at that and I say, hey, maybe the reading tea leaves, the successes that Adam Peters had and the successes that Dan Quinn has had has been with an offense and a system that is more West Coast. So a lot of excitement. There are some questions, nine picks and 70 plus million in Capspace with six in the top hundred.

hundred or two picks. And I think this is something that gets lost on some people. He knows Dallas. Like he knows Dallas in the short term. You know, as long as McCarthy's there, he learned a lot about what McCarthy likes. You know, if Dak's still there, he knows Dak. If the pieces are still there, he knows that. So that's a bonus. I'm not saying this is why you hire him, but that's a bonus. As a Giants fan. Yeah. I love it. You love it. And I think that says something. It's scary when you're going to pair a guy, Adam Peters, highly respected, with the young, modern, cutting edge offensive mind. And you thought Ben Johnson to Washington was going to happen. I can see that being scary. And the older coach, who's a retread,

is just, it's not as, not as scary to put it. To put it lightly. And I think a lot of, maybe not not great coaches have almost won Super Bowls. I think a lot of not very great coaches have won Super Bowls, Mike McCarthy speaking of. But how many of them played Bill Belichick, another 28 to 3? Yeah. Who are the guys you're talking about?

Not very good coaches. Yeah, that almost won Super Bowl. Mike McCarthy won one. Right. Barry Switzer won one. Gary Kubiak, sorry, 1-1. I just think, you know, It's not just he almost won a Super Bowl.

No question. Therefore, he's a great hire. McCarthy had Rogers, Cubiak had Manning, and an elite defense. I know you already said it, and I would say Dan Quinn had Kyle Shanahan. You could say, I mean, we could do it. But the point is, too, like when you're talking about a guy that like Atlanta came out of nowhere, they're not out of nowhere, but he built that thing.

You know, like I know they had Matt Ryan and he existed and the whole thing, but 28 to 3 up in that game, I'm not saying it's automatically going to work out because he's been close to winning a Super Bowl. But relative to some of the unknowns, like this guy at least has a floor where, hey, the year after the Super Bowl, they still got back to the dance. I mean, a lot of coaches can't say that. They got back to the dance and lost to us in the wildcar round. So they lost the Super Bowl champions the next year. Two years in a row, they lose to the Super Bowl champions. I'm not making excuses for the guy.

all I'll say is like, I like having some floor that I can identify. You know how after the breakup you date the opposite gal? Yeah. This just feels somewhat close to a Ron Rivera hire. Golly, I think there's a difference between Dan and Ron, but I hear you. I mean, it's the same thing with at least the McDonald hire is way different in age, right? So kind of like you guys. Young McDonald, did you hear the, the Diddy?

You got one for Washington? Not yet. You know, I thought with Washington. U-I-N-N. I thought Washington would go a little bit younger and a little bit more vibrant, maybe, you could say, because of the new ownership. But it looks like guys like playing for Dan. That defense like playing for him. Michael Parsons loves him, so you follow him wherever he goes.

Now, we'll see about that. He did. John Dodson responded to that post and said, hey, you know, maybe come be a community. I have a spare bedroom. Yep. And I'll give you my main bedroom. I'll stay in the spare bedroom. Michael Parsons posted a picture of him sacking Sam Howl.

Yeah. Yeah. He's just like, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe not. I also like sacking Sam Howell. And from the Dallas end of things, we should look at that, but go ahead. Oh, you're not going to like it. So maybe we should stick with the Dallas end of things.

Let's stick with the Dallas end of things. Okay. So for the Dallas end of things, I think it's interesting because they could call up like their passing coordinator or Al Harris, who's been a hot name. And I love Al. But also, if you're Mike McCarthy and you're going into your last. year of your contract with everything swarling around you like do you really want to hire a rookie defensive coordinator the last three i think we're all former head coaches so these are all

guys who have been head coaches not necessarily all successful head coaches but they're guys who have been head coaches so i kind of wonder is is is a zimmer possible or a vrabel um i'd hate i'd hate brandon staley or brandon staley i think brandon staley belich if you really think he's going to deal with the circus down there and being a defensive coordinator I would love to see it. If you would take the job, I think you would do it. Oh, you would do it if you would take the job in a heartbeat. But also, I've always said, like, defensive coordinators who get fired as head coaches actually perform pretty well.

I know you got the Matt Patricia counter example. I'll ask for some more. But there is a long list of good coordinators in the league right now who got fired as head coaches and came back and called good defense. And so fucking Brandon Staley, the way we think of him is this cartoonish head coach. that's not going to be who he's going to be if you hire him again. I mean, Spaggs had a really hard time as a head coach. Not all his fault. Now, he's been a mainstay in Kansas City.

I mean, like one of the best defensive coordinators of our generation. And also speaks to the variability of having the pieces, because when you look at Spags, he's also been in New Orleans where they had a historically bad run. So it's hard to pin these things down. But I would say, I bet they lean. experience if if history tells you anything but who knows i don't know how much they love that al harris you know or somebody like that wouldn't giving a former head coach the dc position make it make

mccarthy's job harder because he has a see i like jim jerry has a yeah i could go with this guy next year that's the problem i mean i and i don't know how big of a problem it is because i think if shit hits the fan he's probably getting fired anyway so it doesn't matter if the guys in the building or somewhere else but it does give you if you hire a retread hey or a redred head coach to be the defensive coordinator, Jerry has a contingency plan to finish a season that's not going great. Right. If it's Vrable and you're two and four, Vrabel's the interim the rest of the one. You don't want your friends to be too hot, right? You know, it's just, if Vrable comes in, Vrabel's that hot friend and Vrable's got magnetism. You see him paling around with Dack after the game

and Mike's like, wait a minute. Yes, exactly. Zimmer, maybe less so. because you don't think about Zimmer as like a hot name right now to be a head coach. We've kind of seen that movie. But either way, pretty interesting. These two hires, defensive head coaches save the best for last, right? It was all offense until this little stretch. Let's get to Shane. Shane Steichen, head coach of the Indianapolis Colts on the other side of things,

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Gronkowski knows him as Shane Spikeman. Coach, have you ever heard Grant call you Shane Spikeman on my dad's show? I actually did hear that, whatever, was that a year ago or whatever. Yeah, it was pretty funny. A couple guys said it to me. It was pretty funny. Yeah, that's what we've been calling you on the show. But Shane Stuyken, one of the best young coaches in the league, had a lot of fun watching team this year. Just really cool. Being able to go to Baltimore. I'm watching Baltimore this weekend. One of the most dominant teams in the league. You guys go to Baltimore early in the season, backup quarterback, backup running back, guys stepping up on the road. How big was that win for you guys? And do you feel like guys learned something about themselves

and got more confident as a result? Yeah, I mean, it was big. Obviously, going into Baltimore is a tough place to play. Anyone that, you know, goes to plays there knows that. Yeah, but to get that one on the road, week three was huge with our guys. And it just kind of showed the fight, you know, and the resilience there was a back and forth game and, you know, to pull it out there and, you know, get a game-winning field goal by Mike Gay to end it. It was a good win for us for sure. With Coach McDonald, who just took the job in Seattle, like how challenging was that getting ready for a defense like that?

And can you talk to how successfully it was so early? Yeah, I mean, a ton of credit. I don't know him personally, but obviously going against him on his scheme and what he does is very impressive. You know, he mixes coverages. He brings pressures. You know, he makes you think, you know, as a coach. You know, obviously you want to play that chess match back and forth with him.

But the success he had these past two years, you know, awesome for him to get that Seattle job. You know, it's awesome to see. You're a younger dude. How old are you, coach? We're all the same age. Are we all the same age? I'm glad you keep calling him young because we're all the same age. Isn't that crazy?

We're sitting here doing a podcast and my man is like. He's younger than you. Running a franchise at the other. Like, what are we doing with our lives? Right. But coach, coach, like, you know, he's a young coach, just got the job in Seattle. You've gone through this. I thought your staff was really well put together.

And one of the things that obviously jumps out of me first is having Gus Bradley and having an older guy like Nick, who you know well, just got Vic back in the building, Fangio. How important is it to have a guy who's been a head coach and even more so on the other side of the ball? So it's like you guys can talk about your blind spots and stuff like that. What's that relationship like? It's great. You know, to have Gus Bradley here, like you said, former head coach, you know, had a chance to work with him prior when he was coordinator in L.A. And I was coordinator there.

So got to be around him there and the person he was and is just the way the energy he brings to our football team and having that experience as a head coach is good. It's great to have a guy to lean on, you know, when things come up around the building that probably he may have dealt with, you know, in the past to bounce some ideas off him. It's huge. show. To have that veteran presence on the defense side of the football for me has been awesome. And then having the former players in there, you know, like a legend, like Reggie Wayne, the guy could do anything he wants with his time, but he decides to go into coaching,

which, of course, as you know, is a really tough business. He doesn't want to kick his feet up and retired. He wants to coach, and then you've got Cato June. How great is that having guys in the building that the players are going to respond to and can back you up on things? Yeah, no, it's definitely huge. Obviously, a guy like Reggie Wayne, you know, his resume speaks for herself, what he did on the field. And now being a coach, you know, is awesome. So when he speaks to those wideouts, obviously, he's done it at a high level. So that's, you know, instant respect right there.

And then Cato on the flip side of it, you know, playing here, both of them being former Colts in the building is huge for our players. They got their pictures on the wall and they're coaching and they're in the wide receiver room and the lineback room and their picture on the wall, you know, up there. So it's also to have both those guys in our building. That's great. and one of our favorite players, Gardner Minshu, who I would contend is the best dressed man in football. He didn't even make, like, the top 10 the other day I saw it, but... He's the top 10 test list?

Well, he wasn't, yeah, he wasn't even on the graphic. Like, ESPN put out, like, who's the best dressed guy in the NFL, and I could not find Gardner Minshu anywhere. Now, he did not get snub for the Pro Bowl, so I can say pro-bowler Gardner Minchu. What's it like coaching him? What's your favorite, you know, kind of Minchu quirk? and do you think he's going to be a coach one day?

Because I kind of get that vibe from him. Yeah, I mean, he definitely probably will, but I think he's going to play a lot more years in the National Football League before that happens. But having Gardner here was huge for us. Obviously, with Anthony going down and him having to step up, you know, in that starter role, you know, he's obviously done it.

You know, his rookie year in Jacksonville had success. But what he did, you know, for our team and our franchise this year was huge. And just the energy he brings every day. the preparation that he puts into it. Obviously, it showed on Sunday. And he did a hell of a job and shoot. Like you said, now he's a pro baller. Do you have a nickname coach for Jim Bob Cooter?

I feel like when you interact with a guy who's named Jim Bob Cooter every day. I just shorten it. I mean, do you shorten it? Is he J.B? Who is he in the building? Some people call him JBC. I call him Jim Bob. But I'll say this about Jim Bob.

One of the brightest coaches I've ever been around. And like I've said this in my previous deals, but I think it's only a matter of time before he gets a shot being a head coach. We have some success next year. He'll definitely be a hot candidate next year for sure. We're all contemporary, so I'm curious if you played Madden, if you played the NCAA football video game. Because we talk to coaches all the time. Dan Campbell says things slowed down for him enormously in year one. but stuff like clock management, et cetera, you sometimes need to rely on a guy in your ear.

Are you of the video game generation? Do you already have a leg up on these guys because you've experienced it already? Well, if I knew how to use the buttons on the Xbox controller, I might be all right. So my son, he plays it. He's seven years old. He's all into it, and he'll wear me out

because I don't know which one. I've hit the X, but it should be A. You know, where's the timeout button? It's right there in the middle, you know? Dude, I got a PlayStation for the first time in a decade. Since we were all in college, I was the last time I played. And I've been playing for three days. My seven-year-old wants to play.

And I'm like, now, I'm just warning you. I'm going to kick your ass. He beat me 1412 in the first half, okay? And I said, go see your mom. Next game, I'm going to be for real. I do play with the Colts, and I really like your playbook coach. It's been a lot of fun. Anthony Richardson is actually on the updated rosters because he's

healthy on Madden. How do you keep him healthy? I think like I love the guy. I loved him coming out. I saw what you guys saw. You could see it right away. He's got those differentiating skill sets. How do you help him walk the line, so to speak, and use those skill sets, but stay healthy? Yeah, I think that's a great question. I get asked that a lot. You know, obviously deal with, you know, Jaylon Hertz and Philly. Same type of deal. A guy that can run around and make plays. You don't want to take that away from him. You know, that's what makes those guys special. And obviously, that's a part of our game offensively with him running the football. But, you know, there's a time and place, you know, when to go get it. Shoot, is it a got to have it situation where you got to go

get it? Yeah, you got to go get it. But, you know, it's first and second down. And, you know, it might be second and five. But shoot, I'm going to get those two extra yards and take a big hit. Make it second at five. You know what I mean? It's all right to be second at five and second and three. And we'll live with that. So those are conversations, you know, that we've had, obviously, when he got here and ongoing. And, you know, we'll work through those as off scene again, but obviously staying healthy in that position is huge. You know, in Buffalo, they have that thing where if

Josh slides, somebody has to wear a jockstrap to practice. You know, you could incentivize. Yeah, it's like, if Josh actually gets down in slides, they put Dawson Knox in a damn jockstrap and run them around. I don't know why guys think that's a perk, but everybody

thinks it's like it, maybe you do something like that, but I love Anthony Richardson. I can't wait to see him healthy again. Young quarterbacks, you've had her, you've had Hertz, you've had Richardson. We see a lot of these guys who can move, and you also see a lot of guys who don't take a lot of snaps under center. And I wonder how hard that is, like, what goes into that?

Because I don't hear coaches talking about, like, is it a foregone conclusion that guys that take gun snaps their whole career in college are not going to be able to take snaps under center, or does it just depend on the athlete and the player? I think it's a little bit of both. I think, you know, taking a snap under center, you know, even though you've been doing it in the gun, life. I mean, these guys are athletes, right? They're professional athletes to play quarterback in the

National Football League that should be able to take a snap under center. So I think that if that's part of your game plan and you want to, you know, implement under center stuff, I think it's good to have both under center, shotgun, pistol, do all that stuff. You know what I mean? And kind of keep defenses off balance, obviously within the game plan. So motions become a big part of the NFL. It's almost like now if you're not running motion, people are like, what's wrong with you? And, you know, it wasn't like that back in the day. I know there are man's own identifiers that you guys are looking for, but what else can you glean from motion for people at home and then also are there young quarterbacks that struggle and would prefer a static picture and how do you get them out of that

mindset? I think there's both. Obviously, motion can help if it gives you an answer defensively, but also it does. It creates, you know, confusion a little bit on defense with motion and a guy. They got to make adjustments whether a rock and roll and safety. whatever that may be. I think you use motion if you know it's going to help you. And obviously, it does create confusion as well at the same time. So it's just kind of how you build your offense and some plays might not have motion like, shoot, if we line up in this, we know what we're getting and we feel good about it. But shoot, we're going to motion this to hopefully get this adjustment and shoot, if they don't adjust to that, hopefully there's miscommunication on the back end and

you create a big playoff. With Philip Rivers, because you had Philip, I don't know if he's one of the last of the great pocket quarterbacks, quote unquote. But the game's changing now where it's almost like a guy that works from in the pocket and only works from in the pocket can be devalued a little bit. What's the conversation around that evolution and why would somebody like Philip River still be able to play in today's game? Well, being around Philip, the smartest guy I've ever been around, you know, playing that position, just how Cerey was.

I mean, he saw the picture happen before it happened. You know, the way he was able to stand in the pocket on third down and deliver it on third and nine with the guy, you know, barrow down his chest and boom, getting that ball out and throw him from the different arm angles. I think his processing speed was just super, super special. And I think that's what made him really good, along with his accuracy. And, you know, creating plays doesn't always have to be. He creates a ton of plays outside the pocket moving around.

you can create him with inside the pocket. And that's where he was so special. You know, I mean, he could feel, boom, maybe a game, a T.E. stunt come. And it's like, oh, shoot, I got to sidestep this guy, and he could feel it. Obviously, he's feeling the rush. He's not seeing it. His eyes were always downfield. And the way he was able to do that and throw it with accuracy and hit the checkdowns like he did.

I mean, he made a living on throwing checkdowns of these backs, you know, at his career, you know, throwing to Sproles and those guys. And then Austin Echler, you know, as Austin came in, the line. league. But he had a great, great, you know, understanding of the game. I mean, it was just super special. And I think that's part of what made him really special. What impressed you most about C.J. Stroud this year, watching him from the other sideline. Are there any traits that he possesses that you think Anthony does as well? Yeah, I think him within the pocket was really special. You know, he could create outside the pocket, and he had his eyes down the field. He'd create

those big ones. Sometimes he'd make him with his legs, but he'd also create him getting outside the pocket and making these, you know, 30-yard in-cut throws out, you know, moving outside the pocket. And I think that's big to create the explosive plays. And he did a really nice job with that all year. It was, it was fun to see, you know, these young quarterbacks come in and have success. Obviously, he's in our division. So we got to be twice a year. And, and, but, you know, our guy, we're, I mean, Anthony, I'm more than excited about Anthony Richardson, what he brings to the table from his playmaking ability. You know, the first four weeks that he played,

the big plays that he was able to create, you know, the touchdowns with his legs that he was able to create, you can't wait to get him back out of the field this fall for sure. Yeah, the South a year ago looked totally different. Now it's, I mean, this thing is one of the most exciting places to watch football and some great quarterbacks. With C.J. Stroud and with anybody, I mean, like, I've heard people be.

before in the NFC West talk about, hey, we got a draft to take care of Kittle, or we've got a draft with Debo in mind, or we have to draft with this player in mind, like when you have a special quarterback who's a guy you're going to see twice a year, does that dictate maybe some of the personnel moves you make? And how might that transpire? Yeah, I mean, you always look into that stuff, right? I think the quarterback is so unique. You know, obviously, there's position Pacific, like to wide receivers.

receivers, yeah, it's like, shoot, we've got to have a corner to cover this guy, you know, twice a year. But obviously, the quarterbacks are all unique in their own way, right? Some guys are more running around guys. Some guys are the pocket guys. And I think that just goes with, you know, playing, you know, playing, you know, the position. So obviously you've got to adapt, you know, defensively to those guys on how they play, you know, because you play them only twice a year in your division, but you also got to, you know, deal with the other teams that you're going to play, you know, with the other 12, you know, times a year. So, yeah, you go through that process. And, obviously you want to put together the most talented roster you can so you can be successful well i mean talking about personnel i love watching your receivers because they're just big physical guys and you spoke into pitman's toughness and you've got big tight ends uh one of them we we knew from uh university of virginia galani woods and and you know like i thought adding a downs it's so important And I don't think a lot of people talk about this enough where, you know, I heard Brandon Staley talk about, hey, we want our guys to look like the Chicago Bulls. But I don't think people realize the Bulls had, you know, two guards and they had their Steve Currs.

And they had their, like, talk about the diversity of body types you need outside and like, you know, the different functionalities of having those different guys. Yeah, I think it's always good. I mean, obviously, it ain't bad to have two of the same guys every once in a while either. You know what I mean? I mean, they're really good. They're really explosive players. Shoot, we'll take two of those as well.

But to have, you know, the big body in Pittman is huge, right? I mean, he's a reliable guy that's tough, physical, shows up every day. And shoot, when he goes out on Sunday, he performs. He performs every Sunday. And then you got your Josh Downs, you know, in the slot that can do different things for you. So it is good to have different body types that can do in different things. But like I said, it ain't always bad to have, you know, two of the same body types. That way it's like, hey, shoot, I know this guy can run this route like this,

but so can this guy. So shoot, this week we're throwing this route to him, but next week we're going to throw it to this guy so you can keep the defense off balance a little bit knowing that, hey, this guy always runs this route and that's what they like to deal with them. Well, shoot, they run this route with this guy too. You know, so shoot, we don't know what's coming sometimes.

So that definitely helps. No question. That's it. The, you know, that you basically played in a playoff game this year. I mean, I've been calling it a playoff game. You know, I've been saying, hey, the Colts went to the playoffs. I don't know if that means anything to you, but I know what those games feel like for teams. and that's valuable.

And it comes down to the end. Listen, we've been talking about a lot of fourth down stuff. I thought it was the right call. You know, the play's there to be made. You know how it goes. And we see examples of that all the time. In the weeks following, do you feel any differently, or do you stick to your guns and say,

hey, that's who we are in that situation? No, I mean, obviously, you know, it's just with anything, right? When something doesn't work, you always think about it, especially in that situation. It's a huge game. And, you know, the look was there. and it didn't work out.

And that's part of the National Football League. And obviously you want to create those and get those conversions. But, you know, as the head coach and calling that, you know, you live with them. And, but yeah, it's tough. Shoot, like you said, it was. It was a playoff atmosphere in there. It was electric in there. It was loud.

And just, you know, to come up that short, it definitely hurts, you know. And it's part of the game. But shoot, hopefully myself and everyone, right, we learn, let's not, you know, next year, let's do a hell of a job. Let's try not to be in that position to where shoot, you're going into week 17 and hopefully you're already in, you know? Yeah, yeah. With analytics, we talk about this all the time. Like some people at home make it too simple.

It's like, hey, you've got this tool. You just use it at will. I always say it's like it's about the person holding the tool. You have this tool. You have to take into account certain contextual factors within a ball game. You know, whether it's, hey, I got a defensive tackle down or my guards getting whipped or that sort of thing. Can you speak to what people miss about analytics? It's not like paint by numbers.

You just hit it pretty good. Okay, that means a lot. All right, there we go. Yeah, no doubt. There are charts and, shoot, yeah, I listen to them and stuff, but you also got to feel the game. You know, you got to the game. What's the score or shoot?

Is this a time to go for it on fourth down or shoot? This is the time to kick the goal and go up two scores. You know, you can feel the game, fail the defense is playing, fail the offense is playing. You know, if you're rolling in the game and you're in the second, third quarter and you feel good about the call and you're rolling and you got confidence in it and it's fourth and four at whatever the you know 44 yard line you feel good about it great go for it you know what I mean and obviously it's about results too right you go for it and you make it it's

great you know and you don't obviously it's like shoot so they punted there yeah maybe but you've got to have a philosophy and what you believe in but I also do believe in you know the flow of the game and playing in the moment a little bit as as the drive's getting going you know you're kind of having those conversations looking at the scoreboard hey shoot if we get in this situation Hey, we're probably a go here, but if we get in this situation and we're down in there, shoot, let's take the points. Look at the scoreboard. Shoot, we'll go up two scores. Let's take the points.

Yeah, I wanted to talk about the Super Bowl coming up and just in general, that experience, because you've been through it. And I wanted to start with the team that, you know, a lot of these listeners are fond of. The Philadelphia Eagles, they loved you, your time there. I know that you have great relationships with those people. I know that you're a new heights listener, so we've got to get you in the loop here on Greenlight. But with Jason Kelsey, the player, I don't think people understand. How much does he change what you can do in the run game? You know, I look at certain tackles like Penae Sewell and like Trent Williams

and the things they can do getting out on the perimeter. Not every center can run like Jason Kelsey, especially not his age. How differentiating was having that guy? He was special. One of the most special players I've been around, you know, since I've been coaching the NFL. You know, those two years I was with him. just the way he played the game, the way he prepared for the game, was phenomenal. And like you said, what you could do with him in the run game and him getting out in space

and pulling and getting up on the second level and sometimes even the third level, you know what I mean, on screens and getting out, it was really special to see. I mean, he's very, very rare, you know, in what he does at his position, for sure. And with Nick, what would you say his best quality is? You know, like I feel like any great coach I've been around, I could say like, hey, this was the personality trader. This was the thing that differentiated him. You've known him a while. What do you think makes him special enough that they've stuck with him and they believe in him?

And, you know, y'all got to the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Heck, yeah. I love Nick. Very demanding. Accountability is huge with him. You know, he wants things done a certain way, which is your job is head coach and there's a standard. And he set that standard.

seen what he's done in three years. His record speaks for itself. You can't say enough. I mean, it's hard to do what he's done in the past three years on any team. And it's a credit to him. It's a credit to his coaches. And what they've done there the last three years is pretty freaking special. You're close with Nick. You're close with the guys. Would you would rather see them go 15 and 2 scoring 35 points a game this year? Or 5 and 12 scoring 13? Like we miss our guys. him. I'm saying five and 12. No, I'm telling you what, I've rooted like them for crazy this year. Yeah.

I did. I wanted them to do the best they could and shoot. They had a hell of run. They won two to 11 games. It's hard. It's hard. That's so hard. It's hard to win 9, 10 in this league.

And to win 11 and the year before won what they did. And then we went 9 and 3 playoffensive appearances in a row. I mean, that's special now. That is special. Yeah. And for a team like yours that you plan on competing deep into the postseason, I think like you can point to, situation like that and say, hey, that's a great team. You see how being on that treadmill that

long can wear on a team. And, you know, like, it is a hard challenge. That's why so few teams get back. So I think your credit to them getting to where they got, even with the end of the road looking the way it did. Yeah, coach, let's put you on the competition committee for the coming year. You can do whatever you like, point of emphasis, be it player protection or competitive balance. and then with this conversation, of course, we have to talk about the tush push, of which you may be an architect. Should that play be in the game or not?

I mean, shoot, I'll say this about the tush push. Obviously, it's taken off, and we all know that, but the tush push has been around for a long time. When teams are backed up on the half-yard line, what are they doing back there? They're running victory sneak. Like, that's what teams do. We just, the Philadelphia Eagles brought it to the field of play.

So it's been around. It's not like it's been around probably for who knows, you know what I mean? Probably before we always talk about, oh, man, hey, let's run this play. Man, I don't know if this has ever been done. Oh, yeah, it's probably been done in 1965 at some point, you know. So it's probably been around. But shoot, you know, they obviously Philly does it better than anyone. And, you know, to me to have an opinion, whether they keep it or, and that's the competition.

I know you put me on the spot. Get bigger guys, though. That's my argument. It's like all these other teams, they get hurt doing it. You know, it's like if it was such a cheat coat, everybody else would be doing it. You got to get bigger guys. You just got to have Jordan Milata and Lane and Jason Kellogg. Quentin Nelson, Ryan Kelly.

I know. That's what I'm saying. He got some big, big ass dudes. What was that when you first heard about, what was the genesis as it pertained to the Eagles when it was, when it came to that toast push? Like, what was the first time you ever heard the idea in that building? Well, we were, I don't know. We were in a meeting and Nick was like, hey, let's put a pusher back there.

I'm like, all right, dude. So we did. And then it was like, you know, and it was like, you know, and it was like, hey, what if we did this with it? And, you know, it just kind of built it. It's like, let's put two guys back there. Well, shoot, all right, we can do it. And then it kind of just took on a life of its own, you know?

That's so good. That's so good. It's simple. It's simple shit. All right. We've been talking a lot about the rigors of being a head coach who's, you know, you're trying to do your job or being a coordinator, trying to do your job.

It's a playoff run. It's an imperfect setup because there's no way to push some of these interviews back, but they happen during the playoffs. Now, you had the boss. week, so you're able to conduct that interview during the by week. Like, what are the challenges of that thing? Because I think, you know, players can appreciate. Y'all are in a tough situation.

But it's also probably not ideal for y'all. Like, what are the challenges of trying to get that next job while you're currently giving everything to your players? Yeah, I think part of it is, you know, obviously everyone, some, you know, a lot of guys have goals to be head coaches in the national football league, which is great. I think, you know, those summers leading into when you think you might have a chance. and your name, you know, is getting out there is you kind of do the work in the summer. You know what I mean?

When you get your break and you kind of put your plan together. And so if it does come up and you get the opportunity, you're kind of built it, you know, and you're ready for that opportunity. And obviously, with my situation, you know, we had the buy week. So it worked out, you know, you get the buy week. So, you know, you got your Friday afternoons that you have off a little bit after you don't practice. You know, so instead of doing the family dinner night, it was, you know, an interview

night. And then obviously, you know, doing the second round. interviews after the NFC championship game. You know, you got two weeks to prepare, so you go through your week of preparation, and then you got your Friday and Saturday afternoon like you would. So that's how it was for me, you know, and then that wasn't it. And just, and then you got, you go from there. Last couple here, Coach, what's the, you know, with the Super Bowl coming up,

obviously Vegas is a whole other challenge, and you know that. You coached at UNLV. Went to UNLV. Went to UNLV. So you've been a player in Vegas. These guys, it's the first time in their life to have been a player in Vegas for a week for most of them. But coaching in Vegas this week for the Super Bowl, what's going through these coaches' heads? Like what are the challenges of game planning for a

Super Bowl relative to a regular season game? Or is it all the same? Yeah, I think obviously this week is probably was huge for both teams, right? You know, they're at their home, you know, spots getting ready and probably going through their normal week of preparation and going through it. And then, you know, this week going out to Vegas, they'll be locked in again. And now they get their second week of ramp up. So they're getting their, you know, their game plan's probably in, I'm sure, you know, heading out there this weekend, they'll probably be in and then they'll just touch it up next week. I don't know how they all, you know, both those teams are going to do it.

But, you know, they get to touch it up and revamp it next week. So you really get, you know, two full weeks to get ready for this thing and make sure it's all dialed in. We are heading to Vegas as a podcast. There are surprisingly eight to ten people that work on this thing as if it demands that many bodies. But we like to travel together, and I'm just wondering with you having gone through this whole thing, how do I want to travel my players? What do they need to wear the whole thing?

I was saying maybe the guys should all wear suits on the plane because it is a business trip for our podcast. How would you have your staff if you were me dress on the airplane out to Vegas? You guys need to get sweatsuits that say great light. You guys look like a team together. So you got your pin on, you got the green light on the back, boom, and we roll, we get off the plane. You guys are a team. I like that because that means you prioritize comfort.

I would have liked that, coach. And then give us three things we have to do in Vegas. I know I'm hitting Old Town Friday night. I definitely like, I'd like to get out to the sphere. I don't think you've done that yet. But what are your favorite things in Vegas for somebody that maybe wants to do something a little different? Well, it's interesting because it's, you know, looking at what's going to, on there there's so much new stuff out there it's growing like crazy and I have

been out there you know I haven't really been out there and hung out and freaking I don't even know how many years but you got to go to a nice dinner you got to go to a nice dinner there's too many nice restaurants to not go to you got to hit up a show okay the two things for sure you got to do a show and you got to do a dinner okay showing a dinner in the first one's gonna like that I had a third one for you shoot I don't know That wheel thing looks pretty cool, but I haven't been on that thing. The top golf, top golf's everywhere, but I heard the top golf there is pretty sweet.

It's next to the street. You got to do a show and a dinner for sure. Those are the two mandatories. Okay, cool. That's my play. That's my playbook as dictated by Coach Shane Steichen. We'll stay on script. Yeah, we'll stay on script, coach, and we'll get these guys in the jumpsuits.

Last question, you know, maybe one of the most controversial figures of the 2020-season, but we both know this guy. He's a legend in Philly. Dom, Big Dom DeSandro. What are your thoughts on Dom? Dom is phenomenal. Dom might be one of the best dudes I've ever been around in any NFL building.

Shoot, if you need something Dom, Don, Dom's going to take care of it for you. I know that. How many wins is he worth? Don, shoot, he's going to get you at least 12, 13 every year. That's what they were missing. Big Dom. So, yeah, yeah, we love.

Love Big Dumb. Dom's going to love it because I said, shoot, I'm going on the show. He's like, no way, that's my guy. Dude, I love Dom. We got some good stories. Great job this year, man. A lot of fun to watch you, coach, and best of luck this year. And I hear you like to fish, and I know you're talking about Montana.

We are up in, we're on Flathead Lake. A lot of great fishing up there. So look me up if you ever get up there. I love it. I love it. Sounds awesome. I appreciate you guys. Okay, brother.

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No, I was very happy about Shane's answer. Should I put them in suits? Don't do it. I can put them in suits. I will fly commercial. Bringing him, he's going to fly. I think he's sweet to roll with suits. I'm not on the plane with you guys, but I agree.

No top button unbuttoned either, like Greg Olson. I mean, this is a real deal. This is a business trip. Yeah, and you can wear the headphones, wear the sunglasses. Mm-hmm. Who are you most excited to see Dr. Fax interact with on the plane? There's going to be Ryan Clark, Coachosinko. I bet you guys are going to play Scrabble because Fax

he's gonna be like, I'm the best Scrabble player. And then Ocho Sago's gonna be like not a chance. Yeah, I bet you they end up playing. I, I'd like, there's gonna be some game that you guys end up playing because fly on the wall. Fly on the wall, Dr. Fax and Ocho Sane. Hey, hey, have that patrol ready for Chad. Yeah. Oh, he likes his patron.

I'm gonna, I'll bring some petron. He likes, uh, he likes coffee, patron cigars. McDonald's video games and McDonald. You gotta bring him like a, he's a simple guy in that way. Yeah, yeah. Does he still have all those pigly wiggly cars and shit? Oh, I don't know. What's a Piggly Woodrow?

He used to, so when we were in Cincinnati, he would drive a different Winnie the Pooh car character. He had cars that were like... You know, nothing's coming up on Google. Yeah. I mean, I saw it with my own eyes. I know, I mean, I believe you. Yeah.

So he had like a Winnie the Pooh painted Dodge Charger kind of thing. And then he had like the donkey one and that it was... Eeyore. Then he had a Shrek one, I think. Okay. No, I haven't seen it. He was driving a fucking Kia last time I saw him in the parking lot. He was sitting in the parking lot smoking a cigar and a rental. Yeah. So I don't know what he drives back home. He's really frugal. You should ask him, hey, did you drive a winnie the poo car? I will. And he's going to be like, no. What are you talking about? Yeah. No, I can't wait for the trip. It's going to be a lot of fun. Some things I want to do, read. I would definitely like to go back to the waterfall. Yeah, waterfall will be great. The whole crew and in the same mental environment that we were in last year. Yeah, we got to take the, what would you call those?

The edibles of the earth. Yeah. We got to take the edibles of the earth and walk around Vegas. We had such a good time. Me and Cowboy Reed last time. And then we just sat by the waterfall at the wind. We're definitely doing old town. I'm definitely going to do old town.

And I got to say, not to bring it up again, I would kill the sea. at the sphere. What if you weren't allowed to do drugs? Yeah. I'd still do it. I don't think you should take drugs going to the sphere because you're going to be surrounded by people. By people, but also like that thing is so intense. If I could rent out the sphere for a night.

Word is it's better not to do the drugs for the sphere. Really? They have safe rooms though at this sphere. Really? Yeah. Like when you need to chill out. They had a safe room at the Hollywood Bowl for the, for the Willie Nelson birthday party. It was called the bathroom. It was called the bathroom.

Like white. So these are, really? Yeah. No way. Makin, what would you like to see at the sphere?

The 2019 UVA basketball national championship. Yeah, I guess. I'm not a big rewatch guy. I don't know. With the exception of downtown Abbey,

I could watch a whole season at the sphere. Down to Abbey, yeah. You got to like turn around to see. Yeah. going on. Yeah.

Yeah, I walks into the room with a fucking sack of potato. You got it. You're like, oh, there she is. There's dinner. That's how they live back then. I don't know. I don't know about that.

Was it worse than Tokyo in 1946? I don't know. Yeah, more of a pre-war. Nobody got, did anybody get firebombed from downtown abbey? Was this post, is this pre-war? Pre, yeah. Oh, so this is before they got firebomb.

Yeah. A lot of muff back then. A lot of muff. That's my biggest complaint about that era. Complaint. Is everybody's complaint. Everybody's hygiene is all fucked up. No.

Guys. Don't you think like a big bush like that back in 40s? Dude, this shit started from their belly button and wrapped around their asshole. I remember health classes. It is about, it is about hygiene. Yeah. You need your pubic hair. You do?

Yeah. For what, the fall into toilet? What do you need your pubicure for? To keep the smells in. No, no, not at all. Candidly, biologically, that's the purpose of it. Okay. The purpose of pubic hair is to protect us.

Just like the hair around your ears, nose, and eyes. Exactly right. It keeps the skin of your vulva warm and moisturized. It protects the delicate skin from friction during sexual activity. It keeps dust, dirt, and germs away from... But you want friction. What the fuck we're talking about here? Yeah.

You try to not feel it? Yeah, dude. Dude, this isn't the Stone Age where this stuff was necessary, you know? Anyways. Well, talking about the drapes here or the carpet, one or the other. Speaking of the carpet, the win has some beautiful carpet. The win is a gorgeous hotel. That's where we'll be staying.

We'll be staying at the win. Super Bowl week is always a shit show. For media members, for players, like look at the media members this year. They were going to go stay at the Luxor, which is decorated like a Dorito. Yeah. And then some of them couldn't fit. So they moved them to the hotel that's shaped like a castle. Okay.

If the hotel is shaped like a castle, it's probably not five star. And that includes Disney World. Okay. Like there's something wrong. If you're staying at a hotel that's shaped like a castle. But Vegas is Vegas. I don't think many people are going to be in their rooms much. That's the whole thing.

I cannot wait. It's going to be a lot of fun. Some great restaurants. We got a hit. I'm jacked. What do you think, Bad Back, Backy? What are the do's and don'ts of Vegas?

I think we need to under, I mean, the Super Bowl is in Vegas. Yeah. The game is in Vegas. Yes. The Vegas is nuts even when the Super Bowl isn't there. Right. This is next level.

Yeah. Next level. No, it is next level. And there's some complications. And I think with this, there's going to be a little bit of amateur hour. First timers in Vegas. That's great.

I think there's a few things they need to know. When playing blackjack, do not sit down in the middle of a shoe. Yeah. Ask. You always ask. Really? Absolutely.

Always ask. I feel like I fucked that up. And please split aces. Don't sit down and not split your aces. What is splitting an ace? Splitting aces. When you get, when you get two aces, you split them. Okay.

You have to. Okay. All right. Obviously. All right. And then one other thing. When you go up to the, you go up to the window to put your bed in, right? I'm going to take Kansas City, whatever.

It is. If they take your money before you can even recognize it, you're off. You lost. Really? If they ask you, hey, we're going to have to see some ID. What's your social security number? If they make it a little bit harder, you're on the right track. Really?

Correct. No way. Yep. No NFL players allowed in sports books until after the game has been completed. Active players. Active players. So they can't be in the sports book, but they can be in a hotel. Correct.

be in a casino. Yeah. No players playing in a in the game can be in a casino or a sports book. So players playing in the game can't even go in a casino or a sports book. They're staying in one of these rare hotels that's just a hotel in Vegas. Yeah. Which you've got to be a weird fucking experience. Probably not the best.

That'd be like going to Miami and being like, can't be anywhere. There's palm trees. Like there's only certain places you can be and that kind of sucks. I don't know how that's going to even. They just let it go. everyone just let them do their thing it's a part of the game now as soon as ESPN

put what the weather was on the ticker it was all what was that 10 years ago you knew it was coming down so just let people do their thing the first was the first shot across the bow yeah you're like what are they putting this and now they got the lines on every iron on a fucking major

that was even if they don't mention the lines the lines are right there Howie Long has boosted parlays. You know who's hitting up for his boosted parley is half the time, me. And I've told you about this. He'll ask me for a winner. And I'll be like, I'm not really sure about this game. He's like, just pick it.

And I pick it. And then sometimes he's like, why didn't that hit? Which is like not a guy knows ball. No, but I mean, like, you know, his thing is when you ask for a play, the code is you can't, you can't then complain. Like Tommy Buda Khan will send me some, some real winners. and then every once in a while I'll get a stinker, but that's part of the experience. You've got to play every play over a period of time.

For entertainment purposes only. For entertainment purposes only. That's the other thing. You go to Vegas and you think you're going there to win. Yeah. You're in the wrong. Yeah, that's what it is. If you've got 10 grand, you go there and you lose it,

you got to expect to lose it. That's what you spent to hang out in Vegas. To feel the sweat. You know, at the end of the year, my losses, I'm like, that's what I pay. to enjoy the game on a level that I've enjoyed the game this year. No big deal. So I think Vegas unique challenge for players, I have no idea.

I played in two Super Bowls. I have no idea what it's like to have to stay out of certain places and the whole thing. This week is a shit show. It really is. And you got to see it as a fan and like coming in for the game and stuff. Yeah. But like I'll never forget. And I've said this before the first time I got to my hotel in Houston when I was playing.

for the Patriots. We walk through the lobby. It's a zoo. Like everything's like roped off. There's people. There's autograph seekers. There's helicopters overhead. Like it feels like everybody on the planet's like descended upon a square block.

Guy Fierry is everywhere. What is it? Guy Fierry. Appearance is. He really is. He really is. He really is. Great guy.

I wrote an elevator with him. I don't think it was at the Super Bowl. I was at Vegas though. was at the game for the Eagles and and I was like, hey, I know Big Cat. You know, that was my end. And he was really excited about that. He was friends with Big Cat. So it's just a shit, y'all.

I remember getting up to my room and the prevailing, like, feeling of I just need to get away or I need to be alone. You know, and sometimes when you get up to your hotel room, you sit there with Mario Lopez on TV and you lay down on the West and Heavenly bed or whatever it is, and you've been on the plane all day. You got two, three hours till meetings. That's the most peaceful time. your week where you can choose to do with it whatever you want some guys jack off not me i'm in my

fucking playbook okay never never that um but i get up there and it's the helicopters and i can hear people outside i can hear people's voices i'm on the 15th floor and i can hear people outside it just felt like you're in a fish a fish bowl and the whole week feels like that you cannot be alone like right down to the friday before the game i hid in the hotel ballrooms where they have the film set up so I could watch film. But you can't even do that for too long on a Friday night and get your rest. I had a cold the week of the New England game, like a lot of us, up in Minneapolis for the Eagles. I was hiding in the film room trying to just watch some film.

And you got people walking through like, hey, anybody who's not going to the party, you got to go to the party. There's like Jeffrey Lurie has a party on Friday night. So like you can't just prepare on your normal timeline. There are people pulling you into different corners of the hotel or to different parties or, hey, everybody that lands in Vegas for the Super Bowl this week and knows a guy on the team is going to text that guy and be like, hey, you want to get up? And it's one of the most annoying things in general about being in somebody city and I've been a violator of this or being somewhere that somebody else is going to be like, let's get together. You know you're probably not going to get together. That would be true if it were just somebody visiting Vegas.

It's like I'm busy. I have a family. I have this, that. And third, we're adults here. We can say, hey, maybe I'll see you. But if not, no big deal. That's not what people think like if they're coming to the Super Bowl. They all want a piece, right?

So you've got to go visit this person, you know, an agent, a marketing guide. They've got this event. I tried to stay out of it. I really tried to make that week like every other week. And I think there's young guys on the team that you have to worry about who go out on Friday nights in your hometown. And if guys are going out two nights before a game, that's never been my thing. I get some guys can perform that way. But if you're out until 3 a.m. on a Friday night in Philly, what do you think these guys are going to do when you go to Vegas? Right. And so curfew,

maybe not curfew the first two nights you get there because you get like a week ahead, try to get it out of your system then if you're one of those guys. But then they're going to lock you down the rest of the week. And they should. Right. And right down to the final day, there are people hitting you up for tickets people you have to coordinate with to get the tickets um we had to walk through like throngs of people to get to our families to get them the tickets the day of the game like out of the hotel through a hallway through a crowd of people then we got to go through security to get into the family hotel and when you get in there you hug your family you give the tickets up whatever um oh yeah yeah there's different hotels for families there's different hotels for the the team

and obviously the team hotels locked down like fort knox me and alan branch and jabal on the way back i'll never forget this from the family hotel we had like an hour before we had to get on the bus we kept talking about we wanted to do the baseball champagne thing you know because it always looks so cool and uh we went to a walgreens we like cut through an alley and went to a walgreens we got our patriots track suits on and there's people like in the wallgreens and we're not that popular so we're just going about our business and we buy uh like five six bottles of andre and we slide them into our gym bags and we save them for after the game and like all i can think about when we finish the game was not only the fact that we're world champions but when i saw island branch i was like we're about

to pop this champagne we get back in the fucking we go back in the champagne room so to speak in the locker room and we go to we shake them up we go to pop them and they just they just it's like uh it's like a what's the word antichlimactic volcano is the way it came out a dribble and like dudes are looking at us waiting for us to do the baseball thing there's no baseball thing but your boy lex steel at the end of a long day yes something like that my first ever reference yeah that was good no it was a wrong reference yeah it definitely wasn't a peter north's hey let me ask you this i was looking for the peter north situation and i got something way south of that so uh you know peter north they said could go for like minutes on end um like shooting ropes you got me here but but i just it the whole week

the whole week the whole week is like it's just a test you know it's like a test of your your social aptitude your time management aptitude your your mental aptitude just being in a situation that's totally different in trying to keep it the same and then dealing with the hey man good luck 700 times on Sunday morning. Every text is, hey, good luck. And after the game, the fun part is if you win, you get to go through all 400 text messages.

I walked out of that stadium and had like 448 text messages. It's a really cool thing to be on the field and be like, everybody I know is watching this game. Like every person I know is watching this game. And so whatever happens, like that's the pressure is you don't want to be that guy that the ball lands in your hand

you drop it or the jumps off sides i'll never forget like that holding penalty at the end of new england i hit matt ryan at his knees because i was getting tackled and when i hit him i don't know if i have the ball or not because i got somebody on my back and like you're just your face is in matt ryan's lap pause and uh you you get on the ground and i'm trying to judge by the the noise of the crowd and and i hear like a weird cheer like a penalty cheer Like, you don't want to hear the penalty chair when you just landed on a quarterback. But did you, were you aware you were being held? You're held enough all the time that like you're just not sure if they caught it.

And the first thought in my head is I just ruined the Super Bowl for like solid three seconds. I don't even want to think back to that flashback of what my life would have been like. But these are the things that can happen to guys in this game. And it's just such a big stage. And it's such an abnormal experience. So it is tough. like I said, even the people in your organization who are throwing like pregame parties, you have to be at certain things. That's not optimal performance, but you go into the week knowing that everybody has opted into this situation where we know it's not going to be normal and we just have to work around it.

And at the end of the game, the fact that it's not normal is awesome because you've won. And, you know, like New England year, we went to a big party. They had a big team party. They had a big hangar like rent it out. and you think you're gonna walk in there. When I was a kid, I always wondered what it's like to win a championship. I always wondered, what did the Celtics do tonight?

Like, what time did that guy go to bed? You know, when I saw a guy in the morning on an interview, it's like, there's no way I could go out after a Super Bowl and do the interview. You know, I used to think, I want to hang out with the boys. I can't believe these guys are hanging out with their families and their wives after the game. You want to hang out with the boys.

Like the guy, it's just not the case. It's a party for everybody. And when you become a pro football player, you realize that everybody that had a hand and it gets to enjoy it. And that includes like fans, friends, friends that came in for the game might have sat in the wrong seat for an entire half. Yeah. You know, people like that. We get to the New England party. It's not just us.

It's every fucking Patriots fan you could imagine. They basically opened the party up to be like a for-profit party. You know, it's like it's elevated status Pat's fans and the player. and there's no separating the areas. In fact, there was like one VIP area and I couldn't get into it with my family. Everybody in your crew, the reaction was the same. It was like, huh, yeah.

Can we go somewhere else? I was in a bad mood. Yeah. I just wanted to be alone. I wanted to drink beer somewhere and talk to my friends and that sort of thing. And the best part of my night was when we went to that hotel.

We got out of there. We went to a hotel and got drunk with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. Yep. It's such a major life of, I would wake up and take a piss in the morning and I'd be like, is this my last piss as a loser? You know, like thoughts like that. Is this, what changes after tomorrow? I put my contact lenses in and think shit like, what are these contact lenses going to see later tonight?

It's just no one knows, man. And your whole life is going to change as a result of it one way or the other. The Philly Super Bowl, the post game party was incredible because they roped off the section for the players. And it was like one big room was players. One big room was. And there's a picture of drunk Fletcher Cox, manhandling my wife. This sounds terrible when you hear it describe. But there's a, like, that was exactly what I was going to bring up.

You work so hard all year. I think some people think you're always out and getting drunk and partying as a team. And like, because you get older in the NFL, you're really not. You're like, your head's down. and you go to work, you go home. Every waking minute for me was taking care of my body. So there were a lot of guys I hadn't partied with. Just to see your guys drunk all in the same place.

And a drunk that it's like, we don't care, dude. It was zero degrees out there. We did not care at all. How cold it was, that we were in Minneapolis, that we had been awake for 24 hours. We just wanted to go, go, go. And I'll never forget the New England Super Bowl. One of my highlights was when we finally got out of that party and went to the bar and came back.

Me and Rob Nagevich, who's actually 40 this week, happy birthday, Rob, got a couple beers, went up to the room and rewatch the game at like three, four in the morning. Some guys are still out at the nightclub. We just wanted to take it all in and watch the game one more time. So we watched the replay.

I forgot I didn't have any dead. I had to walk like a mile to get dip. I did the same thing in the the Philly Super Bowl when it was so cold outside and we had this like Garrison of Humvees and military personnel like guarding the hotel. I had to go out the door and check with the checkpoint on the way out and on the way in and explaining them I'm just a drunk player that forgot to get a tenta codeyak wintergreen. Is there a gas station around here? So So winning a Super Bowl doesn't solve all your problems, but at the end of the night, it's pretty fun. I got two Super Bowl stories.

So what year was it, what year did the Giants beat the... Patriots, both of them. First time. 07. That was at the stadium, Arizona Stadium. So this is their first year, right? So security was a little laxing. I was there for Dave, Giants.

You don't think Dave Deal, a good friend of mine since growing up. We go to the game. We get on the field after the game. I have a great moment with my girl, Linda Cohn. Yeah, yeah. Great moment. What was the moment? Flavor Flick.

Oh, me and Linda caught eyes. We embraced, hugged. Really? So happy. Like no context. You just hunger? Nothing. Just we caught eyes.

And you hugged? We hugged. Whoa, explain this. Oh, yeah. You've never met Linda Cohn. Never, never. It was me in Flavor Flave. Flavre Flav was with me.

No way. Yeah. Yeah. So, security's lacking. Wait, Flavor Flav was with you or you were standing in the same place as Flavor Flay. We were. Flav was with me. So we're on the field again.

I look over. There's Flav and then I get a nice big hug from Linda Cohn. But what's the context of the hug? You're not, you're, we were just overjoyed with the Giants winning. She's a huge. Oh, the Giants. She's a huge Giants fan. See, I'm imagining.

I'm sorry. I didn't win. I didn't win. You get on the sideline. No. No, no, no. This is after the game. And you just hug Linda Cone.

No, this is after the game. She's hugging Linda Cohn. She's ageless, to be fair. She is. Yeah. Great lady. Yeah. You don't hug older women?

No, I was just complimenting Linda. Kind of walked you into cover two trap. I was just complimenting Linda Cohn. But then we snuck into the locker room. So we're in the Giants locker room. Dave comes out in a towel and he's like, what the hell are you? It was me and my two other people. You got in the Giants locker room.

The Giants Lager. That's how jerseys get stolen. Yeah. Well, I mean, we were just, we just were walking. I know, but the access is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then... Who had the biggest piece? I didn't see anybody. I kept my... We had a couple of Gatorades, I think, because there was no booze in the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, what was the year in Indianapolis?

Giants. I call it the season, so 11. 11. Yeah. 11, 11. Yeah. So after that game, they played the Patriots again, and the Patriots did that for, like, profit things.

But we were with the Giants, got to hang out with the Mannings. Yeah. So it's me, my buddy's Dave, and the Manning's. And I see, I see old man Manning. And I'm like, hey, congratulations. Like, wow, Peyton just won. You know, now you got Eli winning.

He goes, and he gives me the most media-like response. What is I? It just, oh, you know, it's just wonderful to be a part of this and so happy for the boys. Maybe that's how he felt. I bet you did. But I said, I go, Mr. Manning, you don't have to give me that. I go, just enjoy yourself, you know, and he goes, thank God. Like, I've been doing these interviews.

I was giving me permission. I was giving him permission. And then he hugged you. And then we had a great time. We did. We had a great time. I was at that Super Bowl. I had my hand in a fucking bag.

Like, I was out at the club with my hand in a bag because I had just got my, my thumb fused after running into Marshawn week 17, had to rehab. And the worst part of it is like, you can make money at the Super Bowl. So I had just gotten cut in Vail. I went to like the leading hand surgeon in veil. They cut into the bone and fused it. And I was in a lot of pain. And I just remember being laid up in bed with this plastic bagger on my cast like two days before the Super Bowl. And I was like, I'm going.

I'm getting drunk. I'm making money. Don't care if people are staring at the pins hanging out of my hand. Like I'm going. I'm playing hurt. I loved going. Super Bowl is how I met Ryan Rosillo. Super Bowl is how I met Scott Van Pelt.

Super Bowl is how I met Sam for Steve. That's awesome. Those guys, one of the very first. Super Bowls in Tampa that I got to work as a player, I got to go to some party and just like, I can't remember because at the time, I got to be honest, I didn't know who Ryan was. You know, it's not a joke. I just really didn't in 2008. And I ran into Scott and I think I ran into him at a bar in like Ebor City.

That was the night I got drunk with Antonio Pierce and Justin Tuck and Fred Robbins because that was my connection, you know, playing with Fred Robbins. And I met Scott. we hit it off scott by the way like if you think back to super bowls back in the day scott could do whatever he wanted he could go out he could have fun like the whole thing it's crazy to think he can't go out in public now he's so fucking famous he's so tall i think the last time i was out in public with scott was on bourbon street and it was like right when it was getting too much right like he's just too tall man he's just too recognizable but scott took me to a party later that night

or we went to a party later in the week and i met steve and ryan and And, you know, my life's changed because of that. I also got to talk to Little Wayne. I met Little Wayne at a party. I thought it was the coolest fucking thing in the world. I was a huge Little Wayne fan, like everybody that was in college back then. And I remember this distinctly meeting him because he was doing like a media thing where he pull a different player into the room and ask him like one question.

You want Little Wayne to ask you a question? I was like, yeah, fuck yeah, dude. So I get in line. I go in and, you know, ask me a question. And I kind of had a stupid answer because he's like, what do you think about being in the Super Bowl? I was like, he's really cool, like all the people I'm meeting, like yada, yada, yada. And he looked at me like, he's like, you don't want to be playing in this game. And I was like, no, I mean, like next year.

And then after I dapped him up and was like, dude, the suffix is like my favorite mixtape, which is a mixtape that he dropped. And at this point, he had so many great mixtapes that he legitimately couldn't remember the mixtape. And his assistant had to remind him that he did a terrific project called the suffix within the last two years. within the last two years. And he was perfectly nice. But I met a ton of celebrities at these things. I met at one of these parties.

I met the voice of the guy and family guy. The big voice and family guy, the big tall guy that sounds 6'5. You know, the deep voice guy. He's in a lot of cartoons. I think he's the wheelchair guy's voice. Warburton. Yeah.

Warburton. Yep. He was cool of shit. I don't know why that stood out for me, but I met a lot of famous people at these deals. It's cool. You never knew who were going to see this. week. Maybe we should do a bingo thing as a pod. You met Serena Williams last year. I met Serena Williams

last year. Did you know that? I did know that. Yeah, it was cool as shit. Carrie Champion was like, you want to meet Serena Williams? I was like, no, Carrie, I don't want to bother Serena Williams. Two seconds later, she yanks me over to meet Serena Williams. She's got a UVA connect too. Yeah, her husband. Yeah. Total stud. UVA guy. But anyways, you meet all types of cool people. Last year, we had the cash app Drake party and the amount of famous people in this. this party was unreal. Kyle was sitting there talking to C.C. Sabathio like they were boys. And then he came on the show.

Two big lefties. So you never know who you meet that might end up on green light and that sort of thing. It's really cool. I walked out to have a left-handed Siggy last year into the alley of that Drake party. And I watched. So first I watched Machine Gun Kelly like kind of storm out. And I'm like, that's Machine Gun Kelly. And my first thought is like, man, he's kind of, he's not that good looking to be with Megan Fox.

The next thing you know, Megan Fox walks out like four feet behind them and they're pissed. Like they just don't look happy. And I'm like, damn, what am I seeing here? And a day later, you find out they break up. Like, I don't know, a day later. It was pretty. I think it was that night. I saw them walk in and they-

I saw Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly breakup at the Super Bowl. Okay, so I've seen some cool shit at the Super Bowl. So what do you think is going to happen in Vegas? Maybe, maybe Dr. Fax pulls Megan Fox. You just never know. Can't say that. But hey, but all that stuff, you know, you talk about the media and the tickets and just how. Yeah.

What was the one thing that surprised you the most, though, as far as the Super Bowl, being the Super Bowl? What was the thing that you, the distraction you might not have anticipated media day? You know, the constant media, like engagements that you, everybody on the team, like, it's like the combine where you have a bunch of tables and they come in an interview you it's like a free for all it's the same thing with media day and it's international media so i'm talking to people who are speaking japanese i'm talking to people who are speaking spanish the guy that does the the the spanish highlights that you see gets really jacked up about football on the sideline goal go down to no like the guy that does NFL Mexico oh oh i talk to him i talk to all types of people they're asking you questions for our fans back in

Germany. You know, like, it's pretty cool. You know, you can really gauge the global state of the game by the Super Bowl because everybody's there. So it is Super Bowl week. And by the way, the plane ride home is like a germ tunnel for the families because it's like my kid was sick as a dog when we were in Minneapolis. Like we're staying in the mall of America. There's no airflow. It's just the hats on one end, us on the other end, half team sick. We're walking out in the mall because that's all you can really do to get around and you just pass your opponents. And there was a young defensive lineman for the Patriots who I used to help who's a younger player and I'd watch film with him. And I'll never forget walking by him in the hallway and being like, yo, redacted.

And he was like, what's up? And he just like walk right past him. Like, it's four days before the game, bro. Is this what we're doing? Like McCordy stopped and said, what's up outside Benny Hanna. we were all in the same hotel. But the turnaround from the Super Bowl to the parade is like, is tough on your body and on your, but you're running on fumes and adrenaline. So you're okay. Right after Philly, you were, you were on the tonight show.

I was, I got to go to the Tonight Show. It was like, Monday night. Yeah, we got out there quick. It was me, Alshan, Kelsey. It was like five of us. Five or six of us went up to the Tonight Show. It was cool.

Got to meet Quest Love. For three days, you're like one of the most important people in the world, but don't get used to it. That's the point. It's like when that Super Bowl ends, there's going to be plenty more and, you know, enjoy your week because, you know, it really is the most earned feeling in sports. It really is. The feeling you get at that parade, I've said this before, everybody should get that feeling

once in their life. And very few of us do. just to be lucky enough to drive basically all day, get fucked up on a bus with half a million, a million people, and they're all just screaming because you're driving by in a bus. Like, you're the Beatles for a day, dude. And I think that's why some people struggle after football, too, on a different scale is because like the adoration and the adrenaline and the good vibes, you'll never match it again in your life. And so if I have any regrets, it's not, and I am somebody who lives in the moment in a big way, I wish I had sunk it, soaked it in a little bit more.

You know what I mean? And you never can enough. But it's special. I've got my confetti in my office in like a little shadow box. And that's so important to me. Like when I was in St. Louis, I had a defensive line coach Mike Waffle, who I've talked about on this show. And, you know, Mike used to say, and we were a very good group, but it was obvious. we weren't going to get there at a bunch of turns on the road and he had been with the giants and he said

if i have one wish for you guys is that that confetti falls on your face like that's how he would finish a lot of the meetings was like we're after that confetti i promise you when you pick it up and most of the guys in that room never got to pick it up um that doesn't make me any better it just makes me lucky i got to scoop up confetti i got to eat me and rob niggovich hugging like like like like school girls on the field in an empty Houston stadium talking to the media out on the field an hour after the game eating a fucking pizza picking up confetti like scooping up confetti putting in every pocket I could slug in a pizza talking to international media I'm already drunk there's we had the the Andre and the it didn't squirt but it but it worked uh you know so it is I could go on for

for days about the experience, but it is to be a champion, I couldn't have, I couldn't have explained it to my past self what it feels like. And it is truly special. So there's a lot on the line for these guys. Let's get into the award. I think I'm crying, guys. I think it was awesome. Because the season, well, it's a fucking, it's a rare opportunity, man. And so that's why I tell these, you know, if I was telling these guys, if I was an older guy, you got six days here for the rest of your life. Six days of being disciplined for the rest of your life. you're going to look back at every 20 minute block and say i could have done a little bit more you know don't do that you know and also i'll never forget preparing that friday night and watching uh watching eagles tape

2016 watching the falcons and the eagles play because we were getting ready to play falcons that was the that was the first time the eagles were on my radar was watching film for the super bowl preparing for the Falcons and watching that Eagles group and saying, man, they look like a lot of fun. Like so I just such a wild turn of events for me personally. It was it was incredible. When we went to Philly this past spring, I forget who it was. It was a staffer on the Eagles. He came out to the bus and was talking with you for a second. And he was, he said, he recounted the story of meeting you when you got to Philly. And he said, what's it like to win a super rule? What's that like? This is before the season, 2017. And you told, you told,

him it's like you have a coat of armor yeah on the rest of your life and then when you guys won he said that you told them like congratulations on having your coat dude it it some of the some of the guys there um some of the guys there you know when you get to philly they're like oh you know something i don't know anything i just know how it feels i mean i was there um and it is cool to go back there because like like you said every time i talk to a guy on that team or a staff Like I know who this is that you're talking about and he used to tell me I've been chasing this ghost my whole career He's like how do we catch this ghost? I just I just want to catch I I Just want to feel it before it's over like I want to I want to feel that thing you said and you know when we got there

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So do we give him the floor first as he watch an ad, and then pitches an ad? Oh, gosh. Throw him in the fire. Throw him in the fire? Oh, man. Okay, try your ad. You're up.

Travis Kelsey, sleeping in his bed. He gets a call. it's from Coach Reed Travis I need you down here right away need you down at the complex Travis goes down there and he sees a curtain and Coach Reed

and Coach Reed pulls the curtain and it's John Travolta and Nicholas Cage Jason Kelsey is sitting on the table with Tunei and Travis goes Coach what the hell's going on he goes well we need another offense alignment so we're going to steal your brother.

And we're going to put your brothers, you can put Tune's face on your brother's body, and that's who we're going with. Travis goes, Coach, I don't understand how we're going to do this. And why is John Travolta and Nicholas Cage here? He goes, well, they're going to do the surgery. Haven't seen the movie?

Travis wakes up. It's a nightmare. It never happened. Smoky gummies to take all your nightmares away. Oh, there you go. Smoky gummies are great, too. some of my favorite edibles there you go

Travis has never seen face off that's an A plus that's a great ad's a good ad some of us don't watch films it's a good ad that's really good all right I got one for you all right making you ready for your big line

yeah yeah yeah okay a beautiful woman fumbles for her iPhone Antonio can I get a picture he smiles say cheese you can put cheese on them Antonio Brown

the podium. Cameras flashing. What kind of offense do you prefer, AB? Spread offense. You can put any kind of spread on them. Antonio Brown huddles with his bucks teammates in New York. He's cold. The game is almost over, but not yet. I'm about to dip. You can put any kind of dip on them. You can put anything you want on AB's crackers. A.B.'s crackers. A.B.'s crackers. Put that shit on. That's good. That's a good ad. That's a good ad.

Yeah. That's good. Okay. Because, you know, he likes saying cracker. He's been saying cracker lately. It's inevitable. He comes out with a line of crackers. Yeah.

How do you make a cracker that's differentiating, you know? Yeah. texture. Kind of crushed it. So maybe his crackers all have, you know how like people find crackers that look like Jesus? And they're like, oh, my cracker looks like Jesus. I'm talking about like food and sells it on eBay well yeah like maybe all the fucking

crackers have different quarterbacks faces on them like in each pack you could get a different quarterback like animal crackers you could get you could get a fucking jaron hall or you could get a Patrick Mahomes it's a mystery well no you could get a jaron hall you could get a jaren hall or a joe burrow it's a total mystery but you can't do a jesus Jesus wasn't a cracker. No, not technically. And I got to stop you on Jaron Hall as well. Oh, fuck.

You could get a Tim Boyle or you can get Joe Burrow. Jesus. That's a tough one. Oh, shit. Okay. All right, you know, Best Buy has the Geek Squad, right? Mm-hmm. All right.

So if you share a contact with somebody, iPhone to iPhone, it'll share whatever you have in your phone. So if you have like heart, no offense taken by the Yon Cowboy, if you share a contact and say it's your side piece, right? It's your side gal. And you got hearts all around the contact, okay? And then your wife's like,

hey, can you send me Ashley's number? Got to ask Ashley something. And you say, oh, sure, hon, share the contact. Oh, fuck. Their hearts around Ashley's name. what am I going to do? Wifey says, what the fuck is this? And you say, nah, huh?

What? Nah. Now you've deleted the hearts. You show her a screenshot. All right, introducing the glitch squad. Now, you can call the glitch squad. This is employed by Apple Inc. Where you call them up, you're what you say,

call the glitch, call it. They don't call it the glitch squad. You got to call up Apple, hon. Your phone's got some sort of glitch here. It's got a bug. Hearts around Ashley's name called the Glitch Squad. Apple, yeah. Oh, no.

No, there have never been hearts around your friend Ashley's name. Your husband's not sticking it to Ashley every other Tuesday. Nah, all good. Bang, Glitch Squire. Is that it? Fixing your problems. Yeah. You know?

Is that it? Yeah, you don't always have gold when you walk into the room. Yeah, that's the bad. That's good. Yeah, made up company. The Glitch Squad. The Glitch Squad. Okay.

All right. Came from not a real life thing, but you get. What if it was Mike McGlitchie, McGlenshy from the Denver Broncos is like the spokesman. Yeah. I'm Mike McGlinchie for the Glitch Squad. Yeah. Because do you know this? I can protect you.

I protect Russell Wilson. I can protect you. You share a contact. You see like whoever, like the picture you have saved. Yeah. Any, like I know, I know Cowboy. he reads dad's birthday. It's January 2nd because he sent me a contact one time.

You know what I like sending people? Copy paste numbers. Yeah. Not for that reason. Old school. But just because I just like doing it. Yeah. You want that number here to...

Yeah. You got to go to the right screen. You can't get their email. Right. You know how you should never be mean to people because you never know who's Jesus. Correct. Not ever.

It could be Jesus. You know what I mean? I'm not so worried about Jesus. I just, I don't think you should ever be mean anyway, you know? No, I don't think so either. But we're made in the like, of the creator of this there's like a Kendrick Lamar song the same where he's at the gas station

and Kendrick Lamar is an asshole to a bum who's got like a squeegee or something and the guy's persistent he just tells him to fuck off and basically later in the song he finds out that that was Jesus and you never know who could be you know the manifestation of God you know like treat everybody good because we're all made in God's image and it could be Jesus himself in the form of a hobo. Okay? All right. David Teper opened the scene with him being mean to homeless guys.

A bunch of homeless guys outside the stadium are like, hell, we're on fire or something. And he's just like, yeah, hold on a second. He's just got some ice cubes. Yeah, here's an ice cube. You know, like he's just being a real asshole. It's like he just throwing, he just balls up his one and throws it at the guy or he's like, fuck off. Okay.

Hard cut. David Tepper in the shower before the game holding hands with Dave Canales, that's where people pray. That's why he's in the shower with Dave Canales. They're praying, they're holding hands. Jesus, will you please grant us our first win?

Please us. Because I don't know if you know this, but it doesn't help us to continue to lose because of the whole Bryce Young thing and the draft capital. Jesus appears in the shower. Are you fucking kidding me, David? Are you kidding me?

That was me outside the stadium, you idiot. No way, Saints by 20. And then he just poof, he disappears just into thin air. Players dumbfounded. Everybody's looking at each other, looking at David. Jesus. What are he going to say? And they're all incredulous.

And all he can muster is, can I fire him? Jesus, you never know. You know the new Jesus commercials? Do one with David Tupper. Are you okay with this Jesus stuff? The theme of it is you got to treat Jesus. Gold and rule. Everybody likes their Jesus.

And how do you expect Jesus to give you a win over the saints if you just, you know? Yeah. So, and he wanted to fire Jesus because he fires everything. He fires everybody. He'd fire a little baby Jesus. This is like non-person category. Hardest working things in the history of the world.

Ready? It's motion detector. All right? Think about it. always on alert right 100 100% of the time you can't be 99% of the time if you're a motion detector okay always always looking uh-huh always always working always looking so what I'm thinking here is camera's got it easy motion detector says hey take a picture camera just take that's right motion detectors I feel like I'd buy a lot more motion detectors if they were marketed better yeah so what I need is

a real hard working person to be a spokesperson for motion detectors. That's where I bring y'all in. Who do you think? Give me a hard working person. A running back. Somebody that's building the pyramid. Somebody working on a railroad. John Henry.

Like a, like a. Debbie, in Dallas. There you go. Debbie from Debbie does Dallas. Yeah. Hi, I'm Debbie from Debbie does Dallas. I know hard work when I see it

No question Buy these fucking motion detection Ain't nobody gonna work harder That's good As Debbie does Dallas for motion detector Okay good Thanks for the assist No problem

All right Elon Musk gets in his new time machine It's 1967 Why he wants to go back in 1967 I don't know But he walks into a Delta lounge He's going to New York He wants to fly to Philadelphia

Tom Moore's on his seventh job. Tom Moore is currently coaching in the American conference. Okay. He walks in a Delta lounge. He's at an airport. He's flying to Philly. He's in New York. He knows as a guy through the cigarette smoke.

Because back then, you could smoke cigarettes. So I'm going to have the guy walking out. Holy shit. You're Colonel Charles McGee, the most famous Tuskegee Airman. I've seen the movie. Colonel's like, the movie. are you flying my plane to New York? No, despite our incredible skill set,

only one of the Tuskegee Airmen was able to fly commercially after the military due to racism. Robert Ashby did fly with frontier airlines, though. Hard cut. D.E.I. Because maybe you don't have the best pilots fucking flying anyways

because of hiring practices in the United States. That's the whole idea. If you really want to find out who the best pilots are, you stop hiring in a fashion that yields like 98% white guys flying airplanes or in the Air Force. I mean, fuck me. The guys in Tuskegee did the hardest job and they got out and they wouldn't even let them fly fucking planes. That's really good. Thank you.

That's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like Elon Musk to see that ad. It would clear the whole thing up. Yeah. Plus, these planes are, and this is the, at one point, the irony is going to be, Elon's going to have every plane operated by robot.

And there's going to be a bunch of white, black, Asian, fucking Ethiopian people that are going to say, I want to fly the planes. This is discrimination. So anyways. Yeah. That's good. Justin Tucker and his family pull up to a dilapidated neighborhood. They get out and the kids are a little bit like, oh, fuck. bail bond shop oh fuck liquor store like this doesn't look familiar he's like no problem we're

going to put like a boutique bowling alley here there's going to be like i got a great idea for a brewery like a micro brewery um you know he's moving his business into this neighborhood you know a bunch of justin tucker starts showing up a bunch of different justin tucker starts showing up hard cut to to m&T bank stadium where he moves his ball and the tea into patrick holmes and Travis kelsey's uh you know space Travis Kelsey throws his helmet hard cut stop gentrification i'm Travis Kelsey do you have white people that look like Justin Tucker moving into your neighborhood. Wow. Yeah. And making it hard for long time tenants to pay their rent. I'm Travis Kelsey. I'll get him out of your neighborhood. I'm like the gentrification police.

A bunch of guys that sung opera in college moving in, putting in microbreweries, fucking up your whole vibe. Oh, we thought we were just trying to have a little fun. We were just having a little fun. I can see how tight my jeans are. My sides are tight. My sides are. So that was half baked. And then I have one about Dan Campbell and Brandon Staley. Dan Campbell and Brandon Staley are in Vegas. They're there for like, you know, they're going to make some money. It's like next week.

They're sitting at a blackjack table. It's like, hit me, hit me. The guy goes 18. I don't know if that's how it goes. And he's like, hit me. And then Todd Bowles walks by and he's like, you fucking hit. idiots. And he just keeps walking. Yeah. To his hotel room. So that's not really an ad for anything. Well, for an gambling hotline. NFL honors, you know, coach of the year. Can we tag,

do you still have that, do we still have that recording of us calling the gambling guy? Now that we're not, we don't have a gambling partner. I think this is the one place when you've read the needle on playing that voice. Like, I actually need to talk to that guy again. Yeah. We called the guy to see what happens when you call a gambling hotline. line and this guy in Michigan undressed us. God bless him. I mean, he was incredible. It was both of us on the line, basically, mostly making. And the guy's like, you know, we're like, what do you do? Don't do it. He's like, don't do it. Doing my whole life. Whole family's dead. Both my legs got amputated. I'm living inside of a cardboard box. I mean, it's actually, I don't have a landline.

This isn't even my phone. I'm at a homeless shelter taking this call. I used to gamble. I put in Parley, here I am. AIDS. Like, the guy, I got hit by a car. Like, it's just, I got gout now. I don't even have a foot. I have gout.

That's what the guy was. Gout's no joke, dude. Well, imagine, imagine this guy. What if I have a sure thing, guy? Twin, you know, they're remaking all the movies, right? Yes. Uh-huh. So they're remaking twins.

Nice. Oh, really? Starring Dan Campbell and Mike McDonald. Okay. That's it. Oh, that's so good. That's so good. Because they don't look alike.