Green Light with Chris Long - Spencer Hall AKA Bum Chillups! White Guy Bingo, Colin Kaepernick & Javon Kinlaw.

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

(2:27) - Chris’ Thoughts on the Most Recent Mass Shooting in the United States. (14:42) - Layup Line and GBU: Colin Kaepernick, Javon Kinlaw vs San Francisco Reporter & The Northman Review. (54:06) - Spencer Hall AKA Bum Chillups Talks SEC Coaches Battle Royale, Radio and TV Show Hosts, Relegation in American Pro Sports and Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson. (1:34:53) - White Guy Bingo: Questions to Determine Who Has Done More “White Guy” Actions. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Cowboy. Folks on the other side of muddy waters here, Chris is going to give his thoughts on the horrific event in Texas earlier this week. It's a tough conversation that will only take a few moments, but feel free to skip ahead to the main programming if you'd like. Chris and Dr. Faxx are going to hit a good bad, ugly, that consists of Colin Kaepernick, Javon Kinla, and a Northman review.

That's right, the movie Northman, will be reviewed on the Greenlight podcast. After Good, Bad, Ugly, we're joined by Spencer Hall, aka Bum Chilips. And he'll roll through a host of topics with Chris and Nate. Most notably, White Guy Bingo. Make sure you hang around for White Guy Bingo. Y'all enjoy the show. Thank you for tuning in. All right, so for the next 20 minutes or so,

I'm probably going to be talking about what happened this week. I'm probably going to be talking about the shooting in Texas. And then the show will go. into regularly scheduled programming. But I want to give you a heads up. If you're burnout about it, you're welcome to skip through. Listen, I am very lucky to do this podcast the way I do it. I don't have a boss per se.

I mean, when Beck could cut the lights off, blue wire could stop posting the pod. But generally, I say what I want to say. The length I want it to be, the topics we want to hit are the topics I hit. And I love it. I love coming in and talking about. whatever I want to talk about. And I try not to abuse my privilege in that I try not to bring every serious topic to the dance every day. I try not to inundate you with my ideologies, my politics,

my beliefs. I think you get to know who I am through listening to podcast. And quite frankly, I'm not self-important enough to assume that you need my commentary on every social issue. no matter what you thought of me before you tuned into this podcast i think you can admit that whether you disagree with me on stuff whether you agree with me on stuff i know that you come here as an escape sometimes and i come here as an escape sometimes so quite frankly i want to have a good time if i was running a news network i go do that and every day we could talk about all the terrible shit that's going on in the world because it is and i don't want credit for talking about things that are obvious to me like hey maybe maybe less gun violence or hey maybe less race or hey maybe less rams

racism. It's a lot of the reason I stopped tweeting about serious topics. It was usually a few bots, a few people that vehemently disagree with me and called me names, but mostly people patting me on the back and calling me courageous in a space where quite frankly, it doesn't take any courage to tweet common sense. So I stopped tweeting about stuff like this for the most part. And ultimately it feels like I'm pissing in the wind a lot. I feel like a lot of this stuff is in vain. You know, so not only is there a thin line between having a platform and affecting change with your voice and liking to hear yourself talk. Not only do I not want the credit, but also I feel like sometimes what's the point? Is that bad to say? To admit that, I don't think anything's going to change. I don't think people

are going to change. In that case, I just ask that if you disagree with me, if you don't think anything should be done about guns, you at least sit here and listen for five, seven minutes. and get uncomfortable and talk about the school shootings this week. If we're not going to do anything about it, we should at least not be able to escape it. I tried to escape. You know, last week I tried to escape Buffalo. You know, I tried to escape the Texas shooting this week.

You know, I didn't watch the news for a day. I got kids, man. I didn't watch the news for a day. I didn't read the articles, just total denial. You know, convenient because I don't have to. And it's not right. right, I shouldn't be able to escape it, you shouldn't be able to escape it, none of us should. I mean, this week, 19 kids got killed, okay?

A lot of them had to be identified using DNA. So they were too mangled to recognize. You know, a lot of the parents found out from other kids at the school who died and who made it and who didn't. You know, there were parents locked out of the school who were being restrained by police who couldn't go in. Their kids were getting slaughtered in there. Last week we had Buffalo You know the first time when Dylan Roof happened Even with all the fucked up shit in the history of this country

We were shocked that we could have a double whammy like that Could have a hate crime Of course we were careful You know not calling him a terrorist But he was a terrorist A hate crime And a mass shooting Rolled into one

But last week in Buffalo It felt like nobody had any energy left We're so beat down by this stuff it's like people don't feel like me they feel like nothing could change nothing's going to change so it's like pissing in the wind and i have lost a little faith i've lost a lot i've lost faith in in this thing working out here um at a high level long term you know i've lost faith certainly that this this issue is going to be rectified um and and i'm not a partisan politics guy i'm not some biden fan boy or Harris fanboy, you know, like my beliefs is you probably can imagine fall into one side of the aisle,

but, you know, I'm not a party follower. I don't trust politicians because our system is what it is. And lobbying and money and buying of our ideals, that's universal. But there's one side of the aisle that's blocking the door on this thing every time, every time. And it's got to, like Ted Cruz. When he's interviewed on camera, he can't be bothered to answer basic questions. He's a public servant. Your job is to lead this country and lead your constituents and answer the tough questions after something like this. But you can't be bothered to answer the questions because you are protecting the 19 sets of grieving parents. That was the excuse he used for skirting questions. for the parents who are grieving,

who I'm sure the minute the grieving process stops and they need answers or even worse solutions, real tangible solutions, he will be listening to. No, he won't. They said that after, you know, Parkland, after every school shooting,

it's now's not the time. So when is the time? Because when those parents stop grieving, their demands weren't met. And I can imagine it's going to be the same with these parents. and somebody like Ted Cruz is a spineless rat. I'd much rather him just say, hey, the NRA's got their fists so far up my ass,

I can't do anything about this. I'm just a puppet. They're moving my mouth. It's too much money. It's politically inconvenient for me. I can't talk about it. I would at least respect him as a low life that lets it be known that he's a low life.

But to use those 19 sets of grieving parents as a shield, so you don't have to talk about it, Scum of the earth, man. I'm a gun owner. I don't think we need huge guns, dude. I have a revolver. I have a hunting rifle. I have a shotgun.

I am a gun owner. I get the Second Amendment. I get that. But we've amended, since everybody's a big history buff, they love the Constitution. We've amended that bad boy 27 times or something like that.

We can do it again. I keep hearing with the AR-15 and with assault rifles, well Chris what's the difference between your hunting rifle and that assault rifle nothing really blah blah blah blah then why with the entire denny's menu that we have in the united states of weapons that you can choose from do people who want to kill about 20 30 40 people in one sitting always seem to order this one thing off the menu and bring that gun to the party why is that and why if it's no different is everybody rushing to buy AR-15s, which are really fucking expensive, instead of just

sticking with the hunting rifle? If it's no different, then why is everybody making a big deal about this thing? And why is it really easy for people in Texas to just stroll into a fucking store and grab a gun on a whim? It's harder to obtain a driver's license in Texas by a wide margin than to grab one of these killing machines. You don't need a magazine like that. You're shooting it out with the cops? I mean, seriously, I'm a gun owner, man. I'll protect my house.

If you break in my house, I'm going to blow you back out the door if things go according to plan. And that's one area on the Venn diagram that me and people I disagree with cross over. But if you need a gun that mows down like five, seven, eight people, at a time, you either owe the wrong people money or the government's coming. And I don't know if you know this. It's not like the well-regulated militia thing anymore. They'll blow you up with a fucking drone. So you got no shot. I mean, Texas, there are well-regulated militia. There's so many guns in that state. There's so many police. There were police all around

that school. They couldn't stop it. We've been giving good guys with guns a million mulligans. And it's just time to let somebody else take a stab at this thing. You know, more guns in schools, be traps, teachers with fucking nine millimeters, the whole nine yards. Like, I've never seen a group of people that want to solve the problem with more problem, more than this group. I mean, there couldn't be more guns around that school. And if you don't trust the government or the police and you don't want to be outgunned by them, then take the Blue Lives Matter sticker off your truck.

Take the American flag down and just say you don't trust those motherfuckers, dude. because if that's why you're holding on to your little, you know, arsenal, just in case the government comes to take my guns one day, then you don't trust the American government. You're not committed to that flag. And you don't trust the police. Maybe I trust the government, the police more than you. I'm like, I don't need that gun.

And I know I live somewhere really safe. I know, you know, things are good where I live, and my family's protected. and I have measures of protection that allow me to feel that way. But if I was living somewhere that I felt like I needed that kind of gun, I'd probably move. You know, Columbine felt like a huge deal. Sandy Hook, huge deal, right?

This one, I just fear it's going to blend in with the rest of them. You know, we're hooting and hollering for a couple days. But like I said, nothing's going to change. you know the hey we need your voice hey you know there's some people that are like no Chris this really helps nothing I'm saying on this podcast

is going to change anything I just did it because sometimes it's important for me to just tell you where I stand and then you go on and laugh and enjoy the podcast and if you disagree with me that we don't need to look into background checks

that we don't need to look into red flagging people that we don't need to look into giving these guns They're only good for one thing back, that it shouldn't be harder to get a gun, that you don't need high capacity magazines, like your Rambo dude. Like, if you don't agree with me, after all this, I think you're afraid. And I disagree with you. And I just think there's too much fear in this damn country, man.

But they don't need an athlete's voice. They don't need a fucking retired athlete podcast. Nobody needs my voice. My voice is way down on a list of things. people need. So, you know, the NRA is giving out $10 million handshakes. The problem is much bigger than who's making their voice heard. You know, I'm not, I'm not, I didn't record this 10 minutes to make a difference. I recorded it to let you know where I stand. I'm sure there's ways you can get behind gun legislation. People like Ted Cruz will block it anyways. I just wanted to make you feel

uncomfortable because I'm uncomfortable. You want to get to know the podcaster, I'm uncomfortable. Everybody's uncomfortable this week. So hopefully nothing to talk about. for a little bit. But like I said, I don't like abusing the privilege. Sometimes you just, it's just unavoidable. Enjoy the rest of the pod and hope everybody stays safe out there. All right, so let's round the turn and get into a normal podcast here. We've got Spencer Hall, bum chillips from Twitter.

You know, if you're on Twitter, you know Spencer. If you like college football, you know Spencer. If you like, you know, great writing, you know Spencer. He's been around a long time. And actually, the other day, he sat in for Paul Fine. mom. So in my book, that makes him big time. And you can check him out on channel six. That's his website. Shut down full cast is the podcast. He's got his hands in a lot of different stuff. Very online, very brilliant guy. And I've been waiting to have him on the pod. So we'll have fun with that.

Oh yeah, I forgot to bury. I buried the lead. We're doing white guy bingo, which is basically the other Today I was sitting there. I was, you know, looking at my timeline. Spencer Hall is kind of a mainstay there. And I'm like, what's he talking about? And he's talking about the song Sweet Caroline, which a lot of white people like. And he was pointing out that a lot of white people like that song. And I said, not this guy, not this pink guy. And he said, well, me neither. But how do you expect them to believe us? Right then and there in my head, I said, white guy bingo. We got to have a white guy bingo. We have to examine how many cliche white guy things Spencer Hall and I engage in. I think it's going to surprise some people. Or it won't at all.

But we'll do that in a little bit. There are no winners. I'll put it that way. There are absolutely no winners in that bingo game. I think I saw one of the questions earlier. It was do you you know the chorus to the song Mr. Brightside. So for instance, I feel pretty good about that one because I don't know the chorus. I mean, I know I can hum it, but. I don't even know what song that is. You would know if you heard it.

You want to hear it real quick? We'll do that. We'll do the layup lines, Mr. Brightside. No, who is this? You don't know this song? No. Like, I'm sorry. I'm being dead serious.

I would tell you, and I would know it. I want to hear the chorus. That means we got a good white guy bingo list. The song is kind of one big chorus, I feel like, or the whites. Believe it or not, was that song ever on like a video game? That's a lot of reason why I know a lot of white songs is repetitive play of old video games. Grand Theft Auto. You know there's a Wayland-Jetting song on one of the Grand Theft Autos.

The old Maddens? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that. NBA 2K. Yeah, just on repeat, you hear stuff and you don't realize it. Like, oh, like I know this song, but I don't know it. Every time the game started, it's basketball is my favorite sport. I like the way they dribble up and down. Hey, dude, I had that song stuck in my head for an entire year, bro.

Anyways, yeah, the killers. The funny thing about that song and songs like it is it's kind of a fucking sad song. It's about somebody, their peace getting taken from them, somebody cucking them, somebody dirty mac in them. And we sit there and we get excited when that song, comes on so we like kind of being sad at all times even if you notice some of our happiest songs are uh are are about sadness we love that sadness but what if you're on the other side the other perspective of the song where you're you're not you're the person doing the cucking so like why would

you be sad maybe you that's one person in the universe that the lead singer the killers took an l too that's sitting in the club like yeah that song's about me they love this song yeah so anyways that would that be that would be one of the uh the white guy the uh identifiers white guy bingo caucasity that's like the the the state of being a Caucasian so guilty is charged hey uh we're going to do that in a little bit but we're going to do a little good bad and ugly uh and get out wait is that why they call it the caucus because there's a bunch of Caucasians there honestly that's a great fucking boy dude it's not but that's hilarious i've always thought about that that dude, but not, but maybe not.

Yeah, you, you said it out loud. Yeah, you go to the Iowa caucus. It's fairly Caucasian. That is a great question, Nate. That is a great fucking question. They're just in there listening to the killers. They're just in there. Yeah.

Mr. Brightside on repeat. On repeat. The Iowa caucus. We'll get into it with Spencer, Spencer Hall. All right. So good, bad, ugly. good this week. Colin Kaepernick got a

workout. I think this is good guys. You know, like, this has been polarizing to say the least, but I think the wound is, I don't know. I don't know why there's a wound personally, but hopefully the wound, the ridiculous wound, is healing for some people.

And they're realizing that Colin Kaepernick is not a scary person. He's not a bad person. He's a person who's trying to shed light on a messy, and very real topic in the United States. And he's an athlete. And whether you think he's the one that should be, you know,

having this conversation or not, he kind of happened to hit it out of the park as far as making people talk about racism. So that's why we have end racism in the end zones. That's why we have Black Lives Matter on helmets. That's why a lot of things that have been discussed have been discussed over the past couple of years because of a guy like Colin Kaepernick,

or at least he's thrown gas on that fire. that really needed gas. It really did. And he got a workout with the Raiders. So I think this is a good thing. Listen, I don't care if he can play a lick. I personally think the NFL owes him a job. I think the NFL owes him a job, owes him an opportunity.

Not saying they owe him five years, $30 million or something. Come on now. I'm not saying he's a starting quarterback. I'm not saying that when he retired, he was a top half quarterback in the league. He was a bottom half quarterback. He was a bottom third quarterback in the league. And that's not like another position. This isn't like a defensive end or a corner.

Hey, it's nice to have a nickel corner around. It's nice to have a pass rush specialist. It's nice to have, you know, a third D tackle or whatever, practice. This is like you need quarterbacks to play football, dude. And when you're in the bottom third and what you're doing, it's the most important position in the league. And I'm telling you, the numbers back this up in 2016, but I played against him. Kapp was a bottom third starting quarterback in the NFL.

on the low end, the good end of the bottom third, on a team that really struggled. He could still play. So the point is, you don't have to be making the argument. I've always had this problem with this argument. People arguing for CAP making us all look stupid sometimes by being hyperbolic or by alleging the CAP was a top 10 quarterback or CAP unquestionably should get this guy's job and that guy's job.

I'm not on that extreme end of the spectrum, but what we're really fundamentally talking about is did somebody have their right to employment taken away over a belief? And that's what happened, because he should have been employed in 2017 when he went to visit the Seahawks and they said, nah, we're not in the hunt

for a second quarterback. What would they say, read in 2017? They said something super specific. He tried out, but yeah, they were like, we're good with our quarterback room right now. We're good with the quarterback room. whatever bullshit they floated. And maybe it was true.

I'm also not of the belief that every team in the NFL has said, I will not sign Colin Kaepernick. I don't believe every owner feels that way. I do believe there's been collusion. I believe collusion, the way it's been described to me, doesn't need 32 teams to be proved out. I mean, collusion is a group of owners huddling in the corner and saying, like, we can't let this happen and we need to do whatever we can to not let it happen.

Now there's some teams that might be perfectly willing to sign a Colin Kaepernick and have been for the past five years, but the football didn't fit. Well, the Raiders, it doesn't seem the football fits for them. I mean, they just signed Nick Mullins in April. They traded for Jared Stidham. They signed another guy who's probably just a camp body. But this seats taken, right? Like, shitter's full, dude.

Like, there's no room. It doesn't seem likely that the Raiders would sign him unless they, were trying to make a big statement. Marketing. Yeah, or they don't know which. By signing him, it gets more publicity and it takes away from, hey, we just had a player that's still in jail for vehicular manslaughter. And we have all this extra stuff with our coach with all these emails and stuff that

has put a stain on them for the past couple years. And at the end of the day, you sign him, you can deal with maybe this guy, he comes and he bes a practice squad guy. He gets our guys ready and we just let the media do their thing and we'll rather have that issue floating around rather than having to deal and answer with those type of questions. First off, I think it's appropriate to have a myopic view of this whole thing. I mean, it's totally okay to be cynical as fuck, especially considering what happened over the past years you pointed out with the Raiders.

And the Raiders just had some racism in their building, right? With John Gruden and those emails. And of course, like, you know, an organization, I believe two things could be true at the same time. They want to do the right thing, but they also are doing it for the reasons of improving their reputation because that's all you have at the end of the day is your brand. But you have to, what better way to show that? To show that you're committed to it by doing something like that. Even if you don't sign him, though, which I don't think they sign him. Yeah.

I think that what they're doing is, you know, certainly we could be cynical on one hand. But I think on the other hand, what they could be doing is breaking. in the ice and saying, listen, we are the Raiders. We are the raiders of, you know, Flores and Art Shell and all the like various milestones and the Amy Trask of the world and the the Al Davis track record on like wanting diversity and wanting the right thing to be done in that organization. We still are those people, you know, that we missed a little bit on the institutional control aspect of things when John Gruden was, you know, sending Tucker or Carlson emails, but like at the end of the day, we're still the Raiders and we want to do the right thing.

So we're going to break the ice and show that not only is it, is it okay to bring him in now because you're not going to be the first one to do it because there's a lot of scared people. You don't have to be colluding to be afraid of pissing your buddies off, which to me is cowardice and collusion. But there could be some owners who are like, I don't want to be the first to bring him in for a workout but kudos the raiders for doing that because now there's chatter in the league they've shown that they'll take that bullet so to speak and guess what they've also shown that it's not that fucking scary because like the raiders are going to go on business as usual in the fall this is not gonna yeah look at the end of the day as a good team a GM coach you probably want to bring

Colin Kaepernick in everyone knows in the NFL the most devastating thing that can happen to a team is your starting quarterback get hurt. Everything goes to shit. You don't know what's going on next. You don't know if your second guy blends in with the starting guys you have now. Even if he's good and ready, you don't know what's going to happen. So at the quarterback position, you would definitely want a guy like Kaepernick. If you have a winning team or you have a team that's established rather than throwing in a guy that's not ready

and risking your franchise or and or whatever you have going on, going to shit early, when you can take a vet rather than thinking about it as, oh, this is going to be a bad PR move, like it's more thinking about for the team. Can he help us sustain if we have something terrible like this happened? Yeah, I mean, the backup quarterback has become one of the most important positions in football, right? Like we saw it in our Super Bowl run. We've seen it in different situations.

We know what happens when you don't have a good backup quarterback, and then your season gets torpedoed. We saw it with Teddy Bridgewater in New Orleans in a good way with Drew Brees. The thing that I'm talking about with guys like Nick Foles and Teddy Bridgewater, the cap doesn't have over the last five to six years is, A, familiarity with any system, you know, it's like he's a guy who's been in a system with a coach,

and B, he hasn't played football. And so all I'm saying is, I don't know if Capp's good enough right now to be a team's number two. But what I am saying is the NFL, because of what they did do, owes him. Yeah.

And to me, yes, he made plenty of money off the field. Caps not struggling. Caps life is probably better today than it was the first day he took a knee. All those things can be true. And at the same time,

the NFL can owe him an opportunity to play the game that he loves. Even if it's at a number three in some room, even if it's at the league minimum. Now, I do think there's an element here where in 2017, everybody on the other side of this thing screams Caps not good enough.

That's why he's not in the league. And then they keep screaming it. in 2018 and 2019, and now it's 2020, 21, 22. And all of a sudden you look up and you're saying, well, shit, they might be right right now. And that's the self-fulfilling prophecy of it. Of course you say over and over again, if you want to win the argument, the cap's not good enough. And we all know he was good enough to play.

And then at this point, the self-fulfilling prophecy in all of it deems it true. But I don't care if he's good enough. I think he deserves an opportunity to get back in the swing at things if he's not. If he's not good enough, I think he should be on a team with an opportunity to play his way back into like being an NFL quarterback. And let the chips fall where they may, dude. Go watch his I am athlete interview. I caught a clip today, which I think was really interesting. I know not everybody listening likes Cap.

Okay. I would think a lot of you probably. And I'm not, I'm not saying he's a friend of mine or that everything he's ever done I agree with or like any of that stuff. But I think what he's done is he's brought attention to a subject that needs bringing attention to. And he's also gone quiet in the wake of it. So a lot of people have kind of like, I don't know, cast a bunch of aspersions or whatever or assume things about him or filled the silence with. They have to assume that he thinks X, Y, or Z or he acts a certain way.

I love that he did this interview because I've always said I wish Cap would talk more. you know because i think cap is really cool like back in the day when i got to know cap playing against him i thought he was an easy going fucking chill dude and i know he's been into some more hardcore shit lately but at at the heart he's still the same guy dude and he's not a bad locker room guy you know he pointed this out in that interview 2016 his teammates voted him uh the most courageous inspirational football player on the team the teammates harbaugh kelly standing up for him former coaches He pointed that out. Jim Harbaugh, by the way, deserves more credit.

He had him throw at his pro day. He didn't have to do that. I can think whatever I want about Jim Harbaugh from playing against him or watching him on TV. But that to me said you're pretty fucking solid. He pointed that out. He talked about the fact that business got better when he showed up at Nike, when he signed with Nike. However you feel about him signing with Nike, I do see the irony of signing with a sweatshop company, you know, and being Colin Kaepernet. but the Nike value went up $6 billion,

which he pointed out in that I am athlete interview because him and Brandon Marshall were doing this mock kind of GM Colin role play thing, and Brandon was like, what do I, Colin, because even if you disagree on football, what you'll say to me if you're on the other side of the argument with cap, you'll say he's bad for business and this is a business, which I get, but he pointed out that that's just not true.

His jersey was the number one selling jersey, Nike's value went up. It sucks to say it, but it's going to be the same thing. It's kind of similar to the Tebow thing. It's just like people like... At this point. Yeah, at this point. At this point.

But even like back like in the day, like Jacksonville, like he was good, but Jacksonville didn't want him. But business wise, if people, they're trying to say like, yeah, like, oh, the media, it would be too much of a crazy show. But if you think about business wise, like selling jerseys and things like that, You're going to like, I would think you might make your money. Bro, we had, we had the summer we had last year. Was that last year with George Floyd and everything that was last year?

Two years ago, it all runs together. It's been a long like two years. Pandemic. We've been through that. We were in our house. We were locked in our house grappling with racism more directly than we ever have in this country and police brutality and the reforms we need to do. And that's all after Colin Kaepernick taken a knee.

I think we're ready to have Colin Kaepernick, even the worst of us, are ready to stomach watching Colin Kaepernick run around with a football, dude. You're going to be okay, dude. Your head's not going to explode like the guy in the front row of the Clayton Bigsby rally. I think, but here's the funny thing. I think that some people, fuck them. They might believe, or some owners might believe that some of their fan base, that that really might happen or the effects of that. Well, guess what good people do, the right thing. that's what good people do they do the right thing you know especially i can't imagine having as much money

as some of these owners have like i piss away money like like i'm gonna die tomorrow and i got some money if i had fucking billions of dollars dude i don't give a fuck about losing 10% of my fan base but it's more about replace them with 10% of kids to replace them with with young people who are not fucking wound up in a ball over it all it takes you got to think about like this all it takes is for one person that you value their opinion or their friendship or whatever to maybe have a different look on it and it makes you feel a different way. I'm not an NFL owner, but if one of my friends was like, I don't think you should be talking about Colin Kaepernick in a positive light on your pod, or I don't think you should be talking about police brutality or the need for gun reform on

your pod, I'd tell them to fuck themselves. This is my podcast. They're so fucking, all these owners are so fucking territorial about their NFL team, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, all of a sudden it's, you know, my hands are tied. This is your team. What do you want to do with it? This is your league. How do you want to run it? You know what I mean?

I know it's late in the game and it would be late to come around on this thing as NFL owners. They'll never get my respect back as a group for some of the things that they did and didn't do. But there's still time to write the wrong in some ways, dude, and give this guy an opportunity to run out there and play football, dude. It's not that big a deal. It's not going to break you. They owe him. best point Colin Kaepernet made on I am an athlete is he said when they asked him about like is this going to fuck up like the messaging or the bro he made he made the best point is the most

obvious point in the world you have end racism in your end zone you have black lives matter on your helmets seems to me that everything I'm saying perfectly aligns with what you're purporting to give a fuck about unless you don't give a fuck about it it's a it's a totally overt wink nod, which kind of maybe it is, to the American public. And signing Colin actually, because what's scary about Colin to them is he's not going to just say end racism. He's going to tell you what that looks like. Yep.

And they don't want to hear that. So good that Colin Kaepernick got a workout. Bad. I'll go Kinlawn, this other Bay Area drama we got going on here. Basically, Javon Kinlaw, the guy that they had to do. draft because they didn't have the money to pay Buckner and Armstead. They had to draft Kinlaw or a defensive

tackle and this guy seemed tall and explosive and twitchy and mean and all that stuff just like the other two tall explosive twitchy mean guys that they had he hasn't been as good it's taking him some time to come along. He's

a high pick, the pressure's mounting so what happens then on teams like that because I've been there for the first two years of my career in St. Louis people were writing on a lot of bad shit about me. I know what that's like. It can be frustrating. Sometimes motherfuckers talk like completely sideways. People are disrespectful. We know where the line is. Like you talk about my game. That's one thing. You talk about what I'm not doing. That's one

thing. But there's a line that when you cross it, I'm pissed off now. And maybe I might want to come find you in a locker room just to address you. Luckily I didn't have that happen in St. Louis. Number one, the market wasn't that big. Number two, it wasn't the age of the internet where everybody he had a fucking blog. So now what you have is a bunch of guys with lanyards that let them stand on the field. And I'm not saying every blogger doesn't know what's going on. I'm just saying a guy like Grant Cohn kind of gives you a bad name. Because this guy covers the Niners. And from what it sounds like, he's just antagonistic. And there's a difference between reporting the fucking news and being antagonistic. And that's what this guy has kind of been to Javon Kinlaw.

The background is, of course, that Kinlaw's out there practicing or not practicing because he's hurt and he's watching practice and Grant Cohn come strolling out. And I guess Kenlaw came over to confront him about some things he'd been writing and gotten his personal space a little bit. Kind of maybe sized up Grant Cone and then told him to fuck himself in so many words and watch how you're talking about me. You know what I'm saying? Like basically. Reed was that it? Ken Laugh was a practice. Cohn came out. Kinlaw walked 70 yards across the field. Ken Laugh started jawing it at Cohn. Cohn was like, why are you so angry? Is it because of this, this, this is. And provoking him, kind of punching him with some needling, some things that he had said in the past about Kinlaw.

And to further recap, Cohn is not a well-liked reporter within the San Francisco locker room. He is a small group of San Francisco fans who like that. him because he criticizes players, criticizes coaches, goes after the team in a kind of fan, like this is why we aren't winning. He's like shock jock radio, but for the age of the internet, like, right.

He's a fucking a huge douche. He was talking about how like, as soon as as Kinlo was getting into space, he was thinking about how this was great for him because he'd be rich. He'd be rich. Yeah. Now, listen, I do think there are ways to go about this that maybe Kenlaw could do a little bit better at being diplomatic. But at the end of the day,

these are the risks you take when you slander somebody. I'm not saying like make shit up about somebody. But when you start, and he described some of the things that he's written about Ken law, kind of sarcastically, mockingly recounting everything that he said about Kenlaw to give people context as to why he was in the news. And he posted this video. When you say things about somebody like unprofessional, lazy, you know, question their injuries and things like that, these are the things that will get you choked. Like, I'm just telling you, bro.

Like, it is funny, but if a motherfucker writes in the newspaper that I'm not hurt and I'm hurt, or somebody calls me lazy, or somebody crosses over that threshold, we're talking like, I want to close the distance between myself and that individual. So I completely understand Kenlaw wanting to get up close and personal with this guy. Because you want to know, will you say some of the things that you've written about me to my face?

And I get that part of it. Maybe just a little bit like leading with my balls are bigger than you. It's good content. But it's probably not going to get anything done. Crashing his Zoom, I like that idea. I like the idea of just putting the guy on the spot in his space, you know, and crashing his Zoom later in the evening Kinlaw crashed

the Zoom and had a back and forth with him. But the bottom line is I think this is bad because it's bad for the media. Guys like this make an entire industry look bad which sucks whether you like it or not.

Players hear stories like this and see things like this and they're less apt to cooperate with the media. And there's a lot of people in the media who are super cool. There's guys like me who want to interview people and that sort of thing. It's the lane for the villain role, though. You got to think about it like that. Some people like that.

Some people like to see, hey, like, I like to see an athlete get, like, be human and like, and like get angry and upset. And for some people. That's the internet. Like, yeah, like, he's like. Why people follow athletes. But here's the thing. Like, he's the definition of a real live troll. He's a troll.

Like, the trolls online that are behind the computer that you get so angry at and you're like, yo, just show yourself. Like, if you, like, you wouldn't say that to my face. He's kind of taking that role like, hey, I am saying it to your face. I'm actually going to write it in the paper so a bunch of people could see it. You have to be able to respond in a way to not take it too far because you have to know, just like with the trolling on the internet, as soon as you respond back and you seem frustrated, they won. That's the thing. That's what I hate is that, like, Kenlaw has to look angry to get his win.

You know, like, and that's what sucks is, like, I'm sure Kenlaw is a great dude. And listen, I think as I looked at this, when I first saw it having known nothing about Grant Cohn and knowing really little about Kenlaw as a guy, other than being a player, like I was waiting for some of the reactions or lack of support or support from his teammates or what the media people would say about Cohn

and that sort of thing. And there was enough immediate like, Kenlaw got your back from his teammates, this guy's a clown, and people in the media saying he's an incite. kind of troll personality. That's why your reputation matters. If Grant Cohn had a better reputation, he might look better in this. Yeah, that's why we can laugh at Kinlaw saying your fucking balls shriveled up. Yeah. Although I wouldn't, I do think it's a mistake of Kinla to say my

whole family knows what you look like. That's the part to me that he can execute better. You know, I understand why he's angry, but part of now living the way Kenlaw's, living he's a professional athlete like people are going to try to get that out of you and that's what i hope like athletes athletes believe it or not if if if this type of stuff bothers you we have to learn how to either ignore it and or troll better you have to you like you like you have to know how to do it and you have to know that you also have a lot of money so the end gold in your head like hey i'll choke this guy out or i'll slap the shit out of this dude like the opposite person that you're doing that to, they're going to love that because at the end of the day, it's another

story and it's a big bag for them. And ultimately, if that happens for them, that's the ultimate win for them. And it's just one of those things. It sucks, but hopefully we can find a different way to express our anger or lack thereof or whatever you want to do. Just find a different way to do it. Don't satisfy these people with doing actions that they can even more. know where the line is like when you start saying like because then this guy's running it to Twitter saying like he threatened me look at this exactly threaten me so we have to do a better look do a little bit better job troll back and get like it i i'm all i'm all for the guy like i was kinlaw would have drake the guy i'm all for giving people a taste of their own medicine and being and being

creative about it but just find a way that you know it'll hurt where you don't have to do anything physical harm, nothing that can jeopardize you and what you have going on. And hey, if he doesn't like it, just maybe it'll, it'll trigger him to stop writing about you or you guys just have to figure something out because it's not going to end. Like for him now, for as a writer, it's like, why wouldn't I, why wouldn't I keep writing about you? Look how much buzz I'm getting right now. I don't know, though. He seems like he might be getting mini-ostricized in his, in his community. I just slashes tires. All right. Ugly. This starts. is a good and it gets ugly. So the good is that, listen, my wife started doing, my lovely wife started

doing this book club thing, right? Book club is the thing that I'd always heard about and I wondered what it entailed. I guess it entails a bunch of people reading a book, which seemed kind of silly because you have to be quiet reading a book, right? Like, so everybody's sitting in a room just in silence? No, it's mostly women getting together, getting wine drunk, and talking about a book that they read. Yeah, like you read chapters. I'm an idiot, okay? I just, You read chapters you come in and like you guys talk about. You know, when my mom used to have book clubs, I was like, what the fuck are they doing in there?

They need to start reading, man. It's loud in there. They're just hooting and hollering. Fucking read a book, ladies. So anyways, found out what a book club was the hard way because who's got a babysit when there's a book club. I'm just joking. My wife is doing most of that.

She needs a break. So she's got this book club. Anyways, I say, well, what's in, it for me naturally you know i'm like okay i can get something out of this book club uh so me and my friends we're like well why don't we do a movie club you know like why don't we do a film club is what we'll call it which is basically an excuse for us to get together every week and take uh a bunch of redacted and you see i'm nimble and uh and watch movies and my friend for the inaugural movie cinema night film club uh picks no the northman and you know i was kind of like fuck dude not off to a great start

i was hoping we do like casa blanca or something and here we are because you know that motherfucker always gets high ratings even though the the graphics are terrible it's like it'd be like going back and playing call a duty from 2003 you know it's like watching casa blanca i don't care how good it is sorry matt pissing matt shipman was a lit was a lit level i I could get busy on shipment. Well, Casablanca doesn't have a shipment. So anyways, I'm thinking to myself, God damn, dude, a Viking movie the first time,

not even like an old one. We actually go to the theater to see it. So at the theater here, you can rent, I thought we were renting out like a little room because you can rent these rooms out. Turns out we were actually like in a real movie theater. So, and a small one, like a real personal one. A guy ripped a fart three quarters away through the movie.

I forgot about this. So we do know we're making, make it's on vacation but these fucking teens man I was just looking at them these kids they were being loud kind of running around and shit being teens

and then they get in the movie and they're talking and they're running and coming and going and then three quarters of the way through the movie this kid fucking just pushes one dude it's a 16 person movie theater man

we're all gonna smell this so first off teens need to fuck that's ugly there the teens that the north him the other night that I was at. You know who you are. And you're probably not listening to this anyways. You're probably in prison.

Should be. Fuck you. Jail them. And the movie, I gotta be honest. I know the two guys that I went to the movie with said, that was pretty good on the way out,

but that was really bad, man. It's one of the worst movies I've ever. I can't believe you made it through the whole film. I mean, these, listen. It was that bad. Can we talk about Vikings? I know there's probably some good Vikings, some benevolent ones, but these Vikings kind of suck.

Well, what's up with like the weird acid trips going on? Well, they were on mushroom. So Vikings back in the day would load up on hallucinogens to go just nuts and like just really rampage a city. Yeah, that came across. Came across kind of weird. The mushroom looks super CGI. But I don't, and spoilers here. Okay, I'm not going to tell you how the movie ends.

So you can keep listening. We'll just talk in generalities. it's not a spoiler to tell you that a bunch of people got murked by way of a sword or there were some really creative ways that they killed each other in this movie

but these Vikings kind of sucked and you know what sucks about these Vikings I don't know how you feel about this but whenever we watch like a Viking movie they have a weird accent a weird accent

it's not a British accent it's supposed to be this Nordic accent right but it happened in like 1400 right these people were clearly speaking other languages i think all viking's movies should just stick to british accents just british vikings like british accents keep it simple because this ain't cutting it that kind of like weird i like that take the game of thronesy accent don't even get me started like these movies i think this movie's even said like 900 like they weren't speaking fucking english that sounded like that so why do it with some weird accent.

Right. If you're cheating, cheat all the way. Exactly. Oh, do British, dude. Just do a British accent. The whole movie's about revenge, right? Like, revenge. So, spoiler alert, the guy is, he's avenging.

This is in the plot. So the guy's avenging his dad's death. Holy shit. Dug deep for that one. But the guy from Succession, Scarsguard, is this trapped out Viking. Holy shit, bro. Scarsguard is walking around in that thing,

like the hunchback of Notre Dame, and I don't know if there's something about that that I shouldn't be making fun of with him. He literally is, he's diesel, bro. He's like, this motherfucker got absolutely diesel. Last time I saw him, he was like a tech bro in succession. And now he's like, what looks to be 260 pounds. I read an article, he's only 200 pounds in the bulking stage.

So he's got to be 185. six four. Imagine what big people look like on screen. Crazy traps. So his traps are huge. Kudos to this guy. I mean, he looks incredible in this movie. I mean, he's just, he's yoked, bro. But he's just hunched over walking around with his arms out, like in a permaflex

looking for people to kill. And by the end of the movie, I kind of wanted him to kill me too. I was kind of hoping he would kill me too because the movie was long. There were many acts. And the background chatter you know they got to have the the guys loading the ship

in the background have to be heard they have to be saying some Viking you know some Viking banter the banter was really bad in the background the whole movie there was plot sharing there was weird cinematography how far did you get Matt I'm a big movie guy and I actively disliked I

had to turn it off about halfway through did you see the part where Skarsgar was just yelling into the camera for 17 seconds and then they just cut to black and change the you didn't get there i don't think i made it that far i got to the scene on the boat and with anna taylor joy and i just i just logged off that's another thing and i love anna taylor joy and she was great and nicole kidman was great nicole kittman was great the problem's the writing on this on this one scars guard can swim now

holy shit the motherfucker was swimming the whole movie and i'll just say this dude at the end of the movie. No spoilers. I won't tell you how it ended. I'm crying laughing. And you know when you're crying laughing at a movie that you're not supposed to be crying laughing in? I did the same thing in three billboards. I hate that movie. Unintentional comedy is the best kind. The best kind, dude. So, you know, this morning people are asking me, hey, should I go see it? I'm like, no. And then I'm like, yeah, actually, now that I thought about it. But I was crying laughing and they did one of those no credits the lights just came on immediately. So there's tears streaming down my face. People think I'm I'm weeping because it's just art or something. I have to run out of the fucking movie

theater and beat everybody out. And then I get on the downtown mall and I have tears coming down my face, dude. I am just losing it. The ending to that movie was next level. If you can sit through it, I would say you could get really stoned and watch the story. this movie and have a really good time. That's a rough way to start movie club. Yeah, movie club is 0 and 1. But it's all about the camaraderie

and the time away from my family. Just like Book Club. Hey, Spencer Hall is going to join us, as I mentioned before, for a little bit of everything and some white guy. Bingo. There's no I and team, but there is one in Indeed, and that's the hiring partner you need to build yours.

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Nate, nice to meet you. What's going on, Nate? How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I went I went to my kids third grade graduation today. That's good. Yeah, well, it's, they're long. I know they didn't, I know they did a lot of stuff this year.

I think it could have been presented in a more concise fashion. Yeah, like a Catholic funeral or a Catholic wedding, that kind of thing. Right, right. Like I remember the first time my dad attended a wedding that was not a Catholic wedding, he was like looked over at my mom and he said are you sure there is married as we are that's good dude yeah that's good uh when catholic people pass away i act like i didn't hear it i can't make it uh i'm no longer practicing but i will tell you that uh i will tell you that you know from my perspective if that were the case yeah i would forgive i'd just be like i wouldn't

want to go here. Yeah, dude. My dad's from, so my dad's from Charlestown, like South Boston, the whole, that affleck fucked up the whole, I mean, the movie's very good, but it's like, the town is not what it used to be, but anyways, very Irish Catholic. So anything I had to go to growing up, it was a, you know, your legs would fall asleep. Yeah, I used to, I used to, I don't know if you all know, but the Bible, some of the newer ones have maps in the back. Yeah, I've not got that I haven't got in the math section yet. Yeah. Like I know that like there's,

there's certain people who can definitely like Pentecostals, uh, Catholics. That's what I went to. We didn't go to any. So here you go. So Nate. So you never know if it's going to be an hour or four hours.

You said Pentecostal. Like you've been to a Pentecostal. Have you been to a Pentecostal service? Yes. With the snakes? No. Oh. Well,

I don't know. I'm going to say, I think. snake handlers even, I think for Pentecostals, the snake handlers are even out there, right? Because Pentecostals are dedicated. They'll stay for hour, four hours, whatever. And they look at snake handlers. And they're like, that's a bit much. Have you not been, have you been to a snake church? No. And honestly, um, so you, uh, Nate, where did you grow up? Um, Westchester, Westchester County, New York. Okay. So, um, neither of you are, I think, I'm just going to assume, neither of you

are as familiar with rednecks as I am. No, you have a PhD. Virginia, we don't have any snake, uh, snake churches. That's like down a bit. Yeah, I would give myself a masters in Hillbilly. I don't quite have a PhD, but, but I will say that there are certain environments you don't go in with them because they just don't know how to act and you can't trust them. And a room full of snakes is not a place with one door or two doors.

Yeah. No. Yeah, fuck that, dude. I'm out on that. I'm out on that. That's perfect. So that's a good tease for white guy bingo, which I'll give you the background on a little bit.

It has something to do with Neil Diamond. That is who sings Sweet Caroline. Yeah, Spencer? That is correct. This is me distancing myself from the song. He's a songwriter as well. Yeah, which is an important detail as we get into discussing it. So we'll talk about white guy bingo in a little bit.

All the times that I've really enjoyed Spencer Hall's Twitter handle. It's not Twitter handle as I try to think of it. What is the EDBS? And then what else after it? Because you know how people's avi's and their handles kind of just melt into your brain? Yeah. It's bumchillips. Bumchillips.

Yeah. Bum chelps. I had to actually put A.K.A. Spencer Hall because you get a gig or two. And people are like, so if you're going to promote this, they need to know that you're the same person. And I was like, well, I can't, I can't let go of the name entirely. So I got to like do the A.K.A. That's where I've fucked up. And I can't even really plug my own Twitter.

I couldn't even tell you exactly what it is. It just melts into my brain. But here I am, like, referring to one of my three maybe or four favorite Twitter accounts, and I couldn't even get it right. It's obviously bum Chilip's. I put you up there with Wint, Drill. I put you on a pedestal with drill. So there's a compliment here.

I appreciate that. Yeah, it is, it is. So the Bum Chilip's name comes from Bum Phillips. who is like the most quotable football coach ever. Like maybe one of the few mostly non-problematic football coaches. It's hard to find them. It's real, yeah, y'all know better to me, but it's real hard to find them. He was, you know, the guy who said,

amazing business, like, like he'd say, you know, you're not a loser until you blame someone else. Yeah. I always love trotting that out whenever you get anyone playing victim, politically speaking. I'm like, this dude with a 10-gallon Texas hat says this. Yeah, exactly. Football coach. I can't be playing more harder ball in your own philosophical backyard than that.

Oh, yeah, I'm in your backyard with bum-Bumb Phillips, dude. I was Bum-Phillips for Halloween, so I love Bum-Phillips and like, having played for, I forget which one of my coach, Jeff Fisher has like a, he has a Bum-Phillips tree. He's like a branch of the Bum-Fillips tree, and then like Greg Williams is in there. like everybody really in that little tree reveres bum phillips so and i don't think yeah like i gregg williams i'm very pro gregg williams i know there's a whole history there but just for the listeners every time i bring them up people cringe we never paid to have somebody hurt i love

greg williams um but you know spencer also's got channel six the website uh that's you and holly's website right holly anderson's website right my partner holly wendison she is uh we do that two things a week you will get direct to your inbox. Today's installment of that is why basketball should be an outdoor sport. Because, you know, if the rain wants to come through the roof at the Dallas Arena and let it, let it. That's a natural hazard. Every other athlete besides what, besides like indoor cycling plays indoors, right? Yep.

No question. We actually floated something along the lines of, we were talking about doing the NBA new midseason tournament at like Rucker Park or something. I think they should do something like that. You know how I'm always really enamored with in a video game if you could play Madden on top of a mountain with some majestic setting in the background or like basketball at Rucker Park

or you know like you're doing a baseball field in New Zealand. I have all these fantasy fields in my head. It's kind of like Field of Dreams. When they do the Field of Dreams thing in baseball, when they did that last summer, I thought it was really fucking cool. I sat through a whole baseball game. It was the White So.

That's all I know. But it was awesome. I'm in support of this fucking idea here, Spencer. We did that segment with all those crazy fields and courts all over the world. Yeah, no question. They should find a few of those and schedule some games. But I think Spencer likes chaos, though. Is that the driving force behind that?

I mean, that's the driving force for most of the things I like. You know, that's why I like football because it's it's 11 on 11. And supposedly there's a plan. and then all of a sudden the ball snapped and like the stupidest thing in the world can happen with 22 of the best athletes in their profession on the field, which I love.

Like, I know that's probably like what makes it hell for coaches and occasionally very inconvenient for players, but for the spectator, I love in football that you'll just have the best dudes out there and they will be trying as hard as they can with the best possible plan and then life happens.

And you just have to watch them. Like story wise, I got to watch y'all deal with it. And that was always like, delightfully entertaining for me. You know, it's also great when like everything goes according to plan because I always think like it's like soccer and football actually have this in common. There are two sports where when something happens exactly as it's supposed to happen,

it's like lightning. Yeah. Because it's not, it's not common. Like something goes wrong every play. When something happens like I would say in football, this number may be too high for you all, four or five times a game, everything happens exactly as it's supposed to happen. Yes. amazing play that got executed perfectly.

And then sometimes things get executed perfectly that the fans don't even see that were like, wow, that was a great kickout block. It's just that, you know, the other part of the play fucked up. But you're right. When everything's in synchronicity and it actually works, it is a thing of beauty. And especially in the beautiful game and soccer as well as a football player, an American football player. I'm not going to be a soccer poser here and call myself a fan,

but I really do like watching it in those scenarios that you just described. like when everything's going perfectly, it's beautiful. And in soccer, you have to wait a long time for that to happen, which is what I think I love the most about it. It's like, it's like meditation for a while and then this big exciting burst. Yeah, it's meditation as long as you're watching from like, you know, the stands or like the God's eye view of the camera.

Those dudes are moving. Like I think that's the one thing. If you go to a match, like an EPL match or a Turkish, I went to a Turkish Super League match and, you know, Drobba is on the field. He's like past. rhyme drogba. But you look at him when he decides to move and you're not that fast.

Or that big, speaking of drogba, because he's fucking big, dude. No, he's massive. Like, Droga, Drogova could have been like a pretty burly slot receiver. No question. Right. Like, I don't know about, no. I don't know about like an X. I don't know about a one, but he's definitely like a slot guy. I think he could be a possession guy, like a really good route runner who's physical at the top of the route and slippery and people because i was a huge ivory coast fan uh because obviously fifo when i got it like that was my entry point of the game which is a nice dovetail into the conversation about soccer and messy and that sort of thing is i wanted to ask you about that but like uh the entry point of the game for me was video games and

i love the ivory coast i love that team so when um st louis who has a really big bosnian population when i was playing in st louis they had I had a Bosnia versus Ivory Coast game at the Edward Jones Stone, which now hosts monster truck races only. And I got to take a picture with Dragbae. And he was drogbae. And he was basically my height. Same fucking size, dude.

He's probably all of 220. Absolutely beautiful human being, like super gracious, spent time, answered my stupid questions, gave me a jersey that was too tight. And it's in my closet now, but I got a chance to meet him. So what do you think about when start? like that come over here in the United States. As somebody who presumably watches more footy than me.

You have, by the way, one of the great examples of that on your shirt right now. So there you go. Exactly. Carlos Valdorama. I was hoping you would bring him up. I wore it to work today. My friend Tom gave it to me the other day.

Shout out. And it's a perfect, like, because he played in Tampa. Yes, he did. Yeah. Yes, he did. So Messi is coming to Miami soon, I guess. Like, what do you make of that when dudes matriculate to the United States? I love that.

And I love that. So I love it because you get to at least get a piece of them. You get a look at it. We don't do that. You know, we don't get that. You'd have to go to an exhibition match between like Red Bull, New York and Man City to see someone working like that, right? If you wanted to see, you know, Kevin DeBrono work right now.

He's at Man City, but like occasionally Man City will trade off and play an exhibition game against, you know, Red Bull or whatever. And you'd have to go there and see them, right? Like, I think it was Fiorentino played, um, Torantino played a game against Atlanta United here. So like, you get those. But like, I would much rather like these guys come over and it's like, well, this is their retirement gig. Well, good for them. Yeah. That's awesome.

Like I still get to watch them like, like, like work. And LP Bay was hilarious because we went to see them in Tampa. And first of all, his hair moves. Like, you could always follow him around the pitch. He was very easy to find because his hair would, it would be still. And you know it was moving because it started to sort of sweep back a little bit, right? When he moved, it changed shape. It kind of looked like he was like, definitely animate looking.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like when he was out on the field. Um, but I, I, I laughed a little bit when I found out it was Miami messy was going to because I was like, so someone with a history of tax problems is moving to Miami. Okay. He would pick up on that. good.

That's it. It's a perfect fit, man. What is it with the tax problems in some athletes, man? We have so much money. I mean, he's got so much money, but it's all in like five different places because I'm sure his accountant the minute that he saw that Spanish tax bill just said, well, we got offshore that. Yeah.

We got offshore that. Also, like, like he still got ties to Argentina. His money's probably in like 19 different places, man. Like, there is no telling. Also, when you've been raised, like, like those guys go into academy when they're 10. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes,

sometimes younger. What do you think he knows about anything? Like, I mean, like they know soccer backwards and forwards, but everything else is purely voluntary. He's only been asked to know about soccer. I would guess his understanding of accounting and a business,

given the focus that he's had and the amount of games they play. Yeah. You know, the off-season in soccer, it ain't long. What do you think the weirdest thing that Messi can't do is? can't do like just want you fumble over like logging into Netflix or fucking you know because he I like this I really like because it in my head I felt some of this when I retired

I was like I had to learn how to do like some normal guy stuff like not to say you weren't you you weren't asked to do a lot but there were certain things that I wasn't doing because I was just so singularly focused and I can only imagine messy's brain is a it's a soccer ball respectfully. Yeah, yeah. And it hasn't had to be, we're all very specialized. Like if you're in a profession or made your own job, you're super professionalized, right? Bill Belichick, there's a scene in a coaching life where he's trying to change a clock and in his car. It's like three minutes. It's like three minutes of him. And he's just like, I don't know how to do this. You know, like he's, it's great because this is one of the, I mean, this dude is objectively brilliant.

Yeah. The thing he does. Yeah. he's never had to do this. Now, yeah, admittedly, that, that is hard to do. There's no way Messi can change a tire or anything like that. I would like to see Messi try to do, try to like load a standard front load or washer. I was just thinking that, dude, which can be confusing. Yeah. And it can be confusing.

It can be very confusing. You know, for him, it might be in his second or third language at this point, right? Depending on the model. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And by the way, I just wanted to say this about my t-shirt before we moved on to something else. But Valdorama looks like Columbia and Jack Black. Have you ever seen that in your head?

Yeah, yeah, definitely. That whole team, by the way, like, is there a couple of real cool teams around that era, like in that like four to eight-year window of World Cup teams? That Colombian World Cup team, they're so cool. They're just like immensely cool. Well, nothing cooler than being funded by like cartel money or whatever it was. I like you in the two Eskabars. It's funny to me because you go, yeah, man, they were all in on it.

They knew it. That'd be cool. They were like, Coke team. And then they interviewed the team and they were like, so we were really freaked out when Escobar wanted to hang out. Yes, dude. They were like, no. It's not as cool as you'd imagine.

Like, everybody is smiling super fake the whole time. Walking on eggshells. Just walking on eggshells around Escobar. Uh-huh. That's like because like that happens sometimes like when somebody really powerful wants to hang out It's a little scary and imagine if it was Pablo fucking Escobar man that's not no it's not an easy hang who's the who's the scariest hang you've had in that respect The scariest where you're just like damn dude I don't even want to say the wrong thing about around this guy or gal um so yeah I'm not I'm pretty short on like massive power things I I've been around like, let me marinate on that.

Paul Fine bomb. Paul's like Paul's so easy. No, I know. I'm just joking. But he's like he's, by the way, adding to the resume here, I don't know if I've mentioned this,

but shut down full cast as the podcast. That's correct. We've gotten the bumchillips, Twitter. It's actually right here and I couldn't even get it out. And then, and then also you can add Finebomb host to the resume, to the resume,

which was, that was fucking cool. seeing you up there all dolled up professional at a desk and all that. And a shirt with a collar. A shirt with a collar, which it ain't happening here a lot. You know, for you, it's third grade graduations and hosting the Paul Finebaum show. You know, that's one of those things.

Like, I don't know what your example of that is, but like when you, when you see it and you get the opportunity to do that because it was pretty short notice. Like I think Paul had a schedule conflict and they were like, well, maybe we get the guys from thinking out loud. That's the show I do in the fall with Richard Johnson. And they're like, yeah, we can get them to do it. And at first I was like, I don't know, man. Like, I'll get my whole week behind.

And fortunately, Holly was like, you'd be an idiot if you didn't do this. Because when else you're going to get a chance to do like the fine ball of the show? Right? When I was like, I was like, yeah. Yeah. So we did it. It was a blast. Like, I don't know how you do that, though, four hours.

They have great. endurance and focus and like also a really those radio people they really are good about just letting it go because the mental weight of everything that I've said over a course of four hours every day would weigh on me I'm not even being funny like I talk for 90 minutes here do you hate yourself sometimes when you do this for a living and you listen back and all that stuff okay good yeah then Like you sounded like or you know like did I talk too much? Yes. Did I not talk enough?

Did I make sure to listen to everybody? Yes, dude. It's a fucking, it's a, it's a, it's a tough existence. I know there's a lot harder jobs out there, but I could imagine being on the radio, you have to be really good at just set it and forget it. I think that's why sometimes people who talk for, I'm kind of amazed.

Stephen A. Smith talks for like 12 hours a day. And. Stop. Stop. And his error rate, not to say that there aren't errors in there, but his error rate, it's real low. And if there's an error, it's a five-syllable word and it's out of my weight class. So maybe he used one word a little wrong. Like, that was five syllables.

You already lost me by the third syllable, dude. His intelligence is incredible. The work output is incredible. The theatrics, like, the being passionate and being able to perform. Like, I can't do that. I'm very, this is about as animated as you'll see me. I have to do a little TV stuff from time, time. And I'm like, you want me to like raise my voice or you want me to say it all in that one

sentence or what? Like, it's hard. It's difficult. I think the most like fine bomb. So that's four hours and they have this great community of callers that all know what to do. They all have the manual. They all know what to do or what to say. You just have to turn it on.

Paul's great gift. It's silence. Paul is really good. at just letting people go. So every time you see somebody and you go, ah, that guy's shtick is so tired. Or her bit is such a cliche. That may be true.

Put on their shoes. Try it out. It's so much harder. I know people think, like, Jim Rohn. I was just about to bring him up, dude. I feel like the entire, the entire internet, the entire internet dude was shocked that somebody whose fans are not online is still making a,

fuck ton of money. I'm like, you know, like, yeah, I'm sorry. There's something called this thing called terrestrial radio, dude. I can remember like being a kid in Southern California when my dad was playing that motherfucker's voice was the soundtrack. He was like the guy in GTA on the radio. That you just like, yeah, he's talking about everything all the time. And, and still still crank it, man. People love that dude. And he comes in. I've tried to explain to people what an amazing job he does and has because he has the same bit and he does the same bit every single day. I did his show when he did, it was the underplayed thing about Rome, is that he gave a lot of people who had never been on TV before a break when he was doing

his TV show. And I know that when he does his radio show, he has writers and people who usually don't get called on the show. And I always thought that was cool. I did his TV show for four days once, like four straight days of doing, you know, talking about Jim. Is you really? Yeah, out in like Orange County, California. It's so Orange County, which is a very interesting place.

It is, yeah. And so he drives straight into the studio, parks, goes over, does like three hours of radio, walks right over, comes in, does like five minutes of makeup and hair, hits the set, did an hour, got, right back in the car drove out. Yeah. That's it. Workday running like a clock. Dude, that's insane. That's insane.

And that's what these guys have been doing for years. So it's no wonder they're very good at it. Do you have a favorite Stephen A bit? My favorite Stephen A bit is when he says, now you didn't have to say that. You didn't. Like, that's not typical Stephen A, right? It's like, it's true.

But you didn't have to say it like that. I like that because it's Stephen A caught sideways. Like normally he's the aggressor in that. Also, Stephen A, all credit where credit is due, Stephen A will immediately own up to something, a counterpoint being true. Pat Bev did that to him when he was on. Pat Beverly said, you know, hey, they won't tell you the truth.

That would, and I saw it. And Stephen A was like, you're right about that. Yeah. You're right. No, you're right about that. Boy, that Pat Bev appearance, man. Like, mission accomplished by ESPN there, huh? Yes.

I mean, holy shit. And JJ, who is just, I'm a huge fan. I know that right now he's everybody's darling, and some people might be like, fuck, I don't want to see another tweet kissing JJ's ass, but he's always been cool. And that's one thing as a guy, as a Virginia guy, I was like, I want to hate this Duke guy with the Pookashells from Cave Springs that didn't come to Virginia. But you know what? He's impossible not to like.

He really is. And I think he does a good job on TV. He's got good patience, man, because I would not have been patient with Pat Bev. That's just me. I mean, Pat Bev is there to Put in this way, he's a bider, you know? Like, if he's a dog and he's definitely a dog, like if he's on the court, he's a bider, he's out there to,

he's out there to chair someone's pant leg off. Like, that's his whole M.O. And that's what he is when he talks. And I love, I love that. Like part of it, like when you see JJ interact with that, you know, JJ's funny because he's kind of like me. I won't anger. I will just sit there and go,

what's funny, you have my pant leg. I'm going to talk about that. Yeah, yeah. Could you get off it? Or I'm just going to let you have it and go new pants. You know, like that's, I, I love, after having done a little bit of just like a smid of TV, it is, you have to be a little bit different. And you have to behave a little bit differently than like what we're doing here. You know, like we did.

If I'm doing thinking out loud, I understand that I have X amount of space to convey a point. So I try to do it in as relatable way as possible. Not dumbing down, but just be very clear. I don't want anybody to miss it. No elaborate metaphors. You just have to say it. Well, we did the draft and it was four hours. You know, we had room.

So I was trying to, you know, you talk about a player and you could really stretch out. And I thought I was better at that because you can wander a little bit. It's exactly right. I was afraid. I was afraid I went up to do get up and angered some dolphins. fans commenting on to his arm. I did not know that Beehive was there. He throws a catchable ball.

He does. You're right about that. He's a very catchable ball. Thank you for, thank you for clearing that up. And the other day, Tyreek's headline was at first when I got to Miami, I didn't think he was going to be very good or something to that effect. I don't want to misquote Tyreek. But I'm like, see, guys, are you going to fucking give your wide receiver death threats

now? I mean, like, things changed. I didn't say they couldn't change. I said, it is my professional opinion that he's not a deep ball thrower. but I went up to get up and every minute of it, people are saying good job, but I feel dirty. Like I just feel like I'm like I'm feeding the machine and I'll say that on this podcast. I'm sure if somebody heard it, they're like, well, fuck him. We're not going to invite him up again.

He's not that good. But TV's not for me, dude. Just not. For some people, I admire their ability to do it, but I can't do it. I think I have fun if I get to interact with somebody. If I'm like that that's entertaining to me. Yeah. And also like I think it is like it is it's you know like the first thing in order of what I do is you know I write first.

Right. Like I will write and that's the first way I process something. The second thing I do is podcast. The third thing I do is TV and it's very weird because the way you have to express yourself at every single level is very different. Yeah. Podcasting you know like we do the full cast. Podcast is one of the dumbest things, and it's so much fun because I get to talk to three really smart people. And ostensibly, it's about college football.

And it rarely ends up being about college football. Whereas when you do TV, you know, it really depends. You have to talk to that point. And it's vibes. It's strictly vibes. Like, I think if you had to arrange all those information that go from like non-vibes writing, where your words have to be pretty clear. And then you go all the way down to the,

TV where I think people just watch TV just so like they can hang out with someone. That's it. It feels sane. We're insane. You know, they're like, they just want a feeling. They just want a vibe. You know, people love Stephen A because that vibe's real clear at all times. At all times.

And I would say this, like there was a time period where I was getting into my work post football that I stopped watching TV because I was constantly trying to create. You need to watch some TV to know what the fuck's going on in the world, whether you like it or not. And then also, I mean, for me, it gives me a little sanity because if I turn it on, it's either something so bad shit crazy, it makes me feel more normal or just the fact that there's a world running out there. If I'm sitting in my bedroom at one in the morning and there's nothing more sanity, like, preserving than turning on SportsCenter.

And I've already seen it. I know what happened in the games. But, oh, Scott and Steve are talking. You know, like, it's not even the fact that I feel like I know them, but if I hadn't met them in person, I would feel like I know them. So good TV done well, I love it. I'm all for it. So what's your, what's your anesthesia TV?

What's your TV to keep you saying? Shark Tank. Shark Tank reruns, obviously. Law and order. Yeah. I'm a big, but not, I'm not a SUV guy. I'm just a regular criminal intent. Jack McCoy, get it done type of guy.

What constitutes needing to call in the special unit? or s v u s uv as uv yes sv yeah whatever the fuck it is yeah i'm not a i'm not clowning i think the tv is like is like the weird shit is like it's like all like the the the rapes and like the it's the extra stuff it's the extra stuff and it's like standard watching crime of passion they call the regular police yeah i'm not into like i don't i don't when i'm watching that i don't want to feel like weird watching like sit down that noise doesn't make you feel weird off the Yeah, dude, that noise is like anxiety-inducing for me. You know, you're about to see a dead body in T-minus 10 seconds when you hear that at the start of that episode.

Always. Always by a river. Ice-te doing, ice-te doing expository dialogue. So you found her here, but she's covered with ice. It's not warm in here. Ice-te and Anthony Anderson. The reason those shows and shows like this that make you feel sane are the way they are is because they're very, regimented you know that every law and order follows a certain cadence they have their first 15 plays like it's scripted and then yeah and then you know that there's

gonna be like a moment where you're not sure if you can solve the case and then you're gonna same thing with Shark Tank like I know that the rhythm of this show like it's predictable the whole thing I wanted to ask you I wanted to ask you about the SEC coach I don't know battle royale or whatever's shaping up to happen dude like nobody knows college football in that region better than you what do you take away from those two guys? Is there a winner? Because Jimbo seemed like the de facto winner.

But if you look at Jimbo, I put it as like, they're two pigs in the mud, dude, no offense to the guys, but that's what they're, it's the life they chose. It is.

It is two rich guys with very large egos, talking at each other and with entirely different motivations. I think that Nick started off, and it's like 70% rallying the troops to organize a proper. or NIL collective, and then it's 30%. You know, I do feel like taking a little swipe at Jimbo. Because that little bastard, like, that's, you know, that guy who worked for me,

who's definitely not me. Like, that's who managed to beat me twice this off season or twice, once in the off season, once during the season. So it's two dudes with big ego sniping at each other. Both of them make a tremendous amount of money to coach a game where there's unpaid labor working for them. And that labor starts to get paid and, you know, power dynamic shift a little bit. When somebody in power is threatened, they will begin lashing out disproportionately.

They will lash out well beyond what is required because you're threatening them. Yeah. And, you know, you threaten someone with no power and you threaten somebody with power. And the same thing, it's like, don't ever fight a broke guy. Yeah. You know, don't ever fight a broke guy and don't ever fight a really, really rich guy. because they're both deeply insecure for very, for very different reasons.

Yeah, no question. Fight somebody in the middle. You want, dude, you want to fight me. That's good stuff. I'm a perfect, I'm a perfect target.

What's the town in, big head, big head? You got a big head? You got a big head? Yeah, I got an enormous head. That doesn't come across over Zoom

and the silver screen, dude. What size is your noggin, man? That's a seven and five eighth. So, like, it's a pretty big dome. I'm a size eight.

He's a size eight, bro. And that's without the dreads. Yeah, you're, yeah, you're, you got that defensive tackle box, right? Yeah. Can I tell you something about Howie Long's head? Howie Long, I've seen Howie Long trying to put on a size eight hat. It doesn't work. So you just, I mean, go figure, dude.

But, but it's interesting because, you know, like these SEC coaches, man, I'm, I was struggling to name, you know, however many there are in the conference. I was looking through, I was going to ask you who would win in like a fight between Jim and Nick, and it got me thinking about who's the baddest SEC football coach in the land right now. And I was looking these guys up. This is a tough scene for the SEC, I feel like,

as far as some of the coaches they have in the conference right now. And even more so, I'm not sure I'm afraid of any of them. I would be afraid of a stoop. I think that's, you know, because I don't think they're here to lose when it comes to a fight. Also, they're all from Ohio. And like, I don't know. They're

dude from Ohio are grumpy. They're grumpy. and they kind of want to scrap anyway. So like, yeah, I'm not, like, I wouldn't want to fight a stoop. I really wouldn't fight, I wouldn't want to fight Clark Lee because he's from Vandy and he's probably got something to prove. He's pissed. You know, yeah, he's pissed. He's also like a, you know, he's a former fullback.

I just always think like that's going to be hard to knock out if you're, you're fighting with a former fullback. So do you think Clark Lee, he's also bald? Yeah. Take from that what you will. Like, I feel like guys like that mean business. and he's young. Do you think Clark Lee takes the cake?

You think he comes out of the alley, so to speak, in the SEC? Yeah, I think he's the guy because I don't think Lane's going to have any problem with me saying that he doesn't have any hands. I said that as a fellow. I said that as a fellow no handser. That's not our gig, man. We're not here to fight. So yeah, I think Clark Lee is probably my money, followed by Mark Stoops at second,

if I had to go. Everyone else is a coin toss. And you got Jimbo or Nick at SEC Media Day? I got Jimbo, man, because his name's Jimbo. That man has less to lose. Yeah. Jimbo covert. I loved your point about relegation.

I don't know how recently it was like in the last week or so. You're talking about relegation. Relegate one team from each pro sports league. Give me the big four and relegate one franchise today. NFL, we're going to go. ahead and relegate the Washington commanders. Yeah, for the right reasons. First. Yeah,

I like that everything went wrong with them, and then Dan Snyder is alleged to have improperly reported ticket revenue to other owners. That's it. That's the snap. That's everything else. We fucking said it, dude. What did we say? We said it. This is going to be the fucking thing, dude, that tells you everything you know.

Basketball, we're going to go ahead and relegate. Let's see. We're going to go head and take out the Indiana Pacers. I don't know why they exist. Damn, dude. They've never made me happy. Every other NBA team has the moment of absolute happiness for me. The Indiana Pacers, I'm always so sad when I watch them. Just sad, brown uniforms and playing in Indiana. It's just always depressing. Yeah, the Rick Smith's era is over, you know, like that. That's not true. That's not true of all Indiana sports. Like,

I've watched Colts games. I've been like, man, that looks like fun. That looks great. And then you watch a Pacer's game and you're just like, this is so sad and vitamin D deprived. Yeah, melanin is a thing there, not a thing there. So like we, we've got the, remember the last dance lady with the short haircut that went viral for a night? Like a bunch of those ladies screaming at you and that sort of thing. I think being a Pacer's fan is actually in one of the questions on white guy bingo possibly. So we've got basketball. We have football. We've relegated two teams Now give me baseball and hockey. Hockey, I'm going to go ahead and relegate.

Let's go ahead and take. What's the Winnipeg? No. The Winnipeg franchise. I played for the bombers. So I went to a lot of Winnipeg Jets games. Tell him why you retired from the CFO. Will you tell him?

I underestimated a THC pill from, are you talking about that? Yeah. I underestimated a THC pill given to me by a teammate 36 hours before a game. And that was my last game. He said he was high during the Canadian football team. Didn't work out. Didn't work out in my favorite. I mean, we've all, we've all been there, you know, maybe not in the middle of a football game.

Yeah, exactly. Well, you know those Canadians. I would call that. That's the Atlanta Thrasher's Revenge, by the way. It's getting the Winnipeg Jets out of the way. We're just going to go out since... The Thrasher's. Yeah, just go ahead and get them out of the way. Okay. And then I have to relegate an MLB team.

I'm going to go ahead and relegate the... God, it's so hard for me to muster any kind of... You know what? I just want to see what would happen. I admit, this is just me being a mess of a human being. I'm going to relegate the Braves. I know. Wow. I mean, that's your team or do you even care?

No, I don't even care. Yeah. I just did just some of the people who are brave fans. I would want to see their reaction. And like to be like, because half of them would blame Obama, first of all. Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. See, see like my, my portal into like Atlanta fandom is not those people.

So, you know, they're my friends like George Foster or guys like that. So I think about like, I think about like Atlanta fans in this very positive light. And I'm always caping for Atlanta fans. And then I realize like that everybody in the room is like, you mean the people that do the chop and like all that stuff. And yeah. So yeah. So I got to. Two America's.

There's a lot of overlapping circles here. Yeah. The brave. The brave's overlap is wild. It's absolutely wild. I will say this too, that I don't live that far from the stadium. And I've never been. a game at the new place. Never. And it's going to stay that way. I don't really have any

interest in going up there. I've never been to Monticello. I live in Charlottesville. Yeah. It's an ugly house. That's what I would say that. It's an ugly house. He's one of those dudes who's like, he's one of those dudes. They're like, he's a polymath. He could do everything. And you're like, he could do everything at about a sea. you know and in the 18th century that was like wow that guy has like that guy has most of his teeth and he can do a little bit of math like that's incredible i'm jack nicholson dot jiff right now and i just fucking love this thank you very much thank you overrated thomas jefferson yeah yeah like he's just kind of he's one of those dudes who like i think you know john ham

in 30 rock when he's in the bubble because he's attractive and they're like yeah he's good at everything and you can't actually do anything. I kind of think that's the deal with Thomas Jefferson. He's not having the bubble in 30 rock. You know, but he's like, yeah, local property taxes should definitely pay for all the schools. That way, they'll all be equal and people will be invested. And I'm like, you're an idiot. You're an absolute idiot.

Who lets you draw up the country? That's so good. Ben Franklin underrated. Uncheely underrated. Don't even get me started here. In so many ways that we may not even be able to discuss on this podcast. Exactly, dude. Guys totally fucking underrated.

He is the inverse of TJ there when it comes to the founding fathers. Sorry, Charlottesville people. I also call campus campus, not grounds. So if you're here in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or right here in Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBet app yet, I have great news for you. Winbet is now offering $200 in free bets for new users. That's right, $200, $200 big ones on a $50 bet. Win bet is basically giving you free money.

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1-800-9-9-7-89. All right, let's get into White Guy Bingo. So the other day, I'm perusing my timeline and Spencer's tweeting about Sweet Caroline, which is a song that I think is creepy for reasons that we can get into. And also just like maybe before at like 1 a.m. at a bar, I nodded my head along, but I'm not into that song.

and Spencer alleges that every white guy's into essentially that song or that people at least think we probably are all into that song and I think that's a reasonable take but I myself not in that song Spencer said well we've got to we're all under suspicion right we're all under suspicion and he's like that's he's like the important part is they're not going to believe us even if we say that we don't like the the song sweet Kelly you know the song and you can't blame them you can't blame them because most of us yeah do you like that song Nate oh oh oh I don't feel like I dislike it yeah I just feel like I know it as a sports song or like the end of the bar like everyone on the way out song but other than that I don't there's no reason to like really dislike it what's a song white people love I should have given you this question ahead of time that we just we just you know we do love we we We do love that song. And that's a major 1 a.m. Like 2 a.m. bar song.

Like, and I will admit, I do love me some fucking journey. And like, I do love that at 1.30 more than any time in the entire day. So I'm guilty as charged, dude. You know what we do love? We do love some Bill Withers. That's the, I'll give us that. And that. Wait on me?

Yeah. I think there are real regional differences, too, like region to region. Like, I think there's very few that transcend Sweet Carolina to me is, it sticks out like a sore thumb because I grew up here. Sweet Carolina is a super northeastern, like Midwestern thing and bleeds over a little bit. They do it, you know, Red Sox games. They do it at Michigan games. They don't exactly do it like an Alabama game. That's not, you know, like an Alabama game.

That's not, you know, like an Alabama game, they do. Sweet home Alabama, probably. Well, they do your Dixie, they do Dixieland Delight. Dixie Land Delight, yeah. They'll do that. Come on, you like 5 o'clock 500. I am a big fan of Alabama singing Mr. Brightside because it's the last place. It's the last place you expect it to pop up.

And it bangs there, man. Ding, ding, ding. Okay, so there's the first point on white guy bingo. One of the white guy bingo, well, we'll get there. But one of the white guy bingo questions that he wrote up was, do you know the chorus to Mr. Brightside? No spoilers. We'll get there in a second.

So at Alabama, you're saying like Dixieland Delight is their version of Sweet Caroline up. What is the version, you know, the drop kick Murphy's song that I hate so much? Sailor Peg, lost my leg. The shipping up to Boston. Fuck, I hate that song. dude they play a non-stop in Boston it's the epitome of people in that region embracing being miserable the song is cold and rainy dude and and and and and i'm wondering what the more aggressive like more miserable version of dixieland delight would even be down there um there are other things

that they like other songs that people like in florida they do i won't back down by tom petty but that's a tribute. Guilty is charged. That's a little bit different, you know. My favorite thing, they don't sing along with it, but pregame songs, Georgia plays Baba O'Reilly by the Who. Which is that, which is that

the scent line. Do you know that one? You would think it was Teenage Wasteland. Yeah, teenage way. It's an old song. You know, I'm not going to do it, but yeah. That's only

teenage, you know, that song. Yeah. Sick song, dude. And I'm going to say the whitest thing. Here we go. I'm just warming up. I'm getting the blood flow. And I love it when Pearl Jam plays Bob O'Reilly at the end of one of their concerts.

I'll fucking say it. I'm coming out and saying it. Listen, on a scale of zero to 10, zero being not Caucasian and 10 being me. I'm going to give that, I'm going to give that like an eight. That's an eight, dude. That's a strong eight. And I'm getting warmed up. I'm getting the blood flowing, man.

Fuck, dude. Seriously. I'm lost. But Neil Diamond wrote, you. That's just checking out. This is just segments tracking. So Neil Diamond wrote that song about an underage girl. Yes.

And there was a lot of that in music. Let's get it. Let's get it on was also written about an underage girl. I mean, I'm pretty sure David Bowie probably wrote a few songs about underage girls. I don't want to piss like half the podcast listenership off. I know you're all white in your 30s. We should endorse that we should just go ahead and say that,

yeah, this is problematic. This is all problematic. It's not good. If you're listening to somebody on your Spotify before 1990, they were probably problematic across genre. Almost. There's a few good ones.

There's a few good ones. Willie Nelson, not problematic. All right. Here you go. I do have one good story about Willie. Because I have, I have a, you know, things you can always tell stories about. If somebody just gives you 30 minutes,

I think I could probably tell 30 straight minutes of Willie Nelson stories because I just collect them. And so he did a movie called Honey Suckle Rose. And in it, he stars opposite Amy Irving. Amy Irving was married to Steven Spielberg at the time. Willie Nelson was married to his second wife. Willie Nelson and Amy Irving had an affair on the set of Honeystuckle Rose that essentially created Temple of Doom because like the reason Temple of Doom is so messed up is because George Lucas and Steven Spielberg were both getting divorces. So like somebody literally gets their heart risk. out in that movie.

Not the most subtle metaphor. Yeah. Connie my Ghali Mahi Shephti Day. Yeah. So anyway, they had this affair on the set and it broke up. Like, it helped break up Stephen Spielberg's marriage to Amy Irving and Willie Nelson. It broke up his, he'll break up his second marriage.

And later on, when asked to describe, when asked, you know, hey, do you regret that at all? Willie looked at the interview and said, I'd do it again. cold blood is bro I'm just telling you bro just like having flashbacks there's there's two people there's two people that you know I think Willie's brand is is great

and I love it I'm a huge Willie fan but I hadn't actually heard that Temple of Doom story so but like I think his brand's pretty on par but I think there's also a lot about Willie that people don't get or no like almost he'll beat your ass He'll beat your fucking ass. Shotgun, Willie, will beat your ass, dude. Yeah. He'll also get out of shotgun if he has to. That's how he got the nickname.

You know, lead ass kicking, dude. Don't fuck with him. So, I mean, Willie Nelson, he's this pot guy. He's a pacifist, all this stuff. But Willie Nelson was a bad motherfucker still is. So yeah, all right, white guy bingo. Here we go. Yeah, so I'm just reading through the list. Yeah, he's going to keep score. Matt's going to keep score. So at the end of this thing, and I think it's going to be me, probably Spencer. You know, I think that's going to be me. But I think I'm going to have more points for you, which will be losing because, you know, go ahead. All right. Here we go.

White guy bingo. Preferers college hoops over NBA. That's a negative. So I know what I'm supposed to say, but I just can't get into the regular season in the NBA. I guess I can't get in the regular season in the cut. But the tie goes to the NCAA tournament because I'm that sucker that loves watching low-quality basketball for, you know, wall-to-wall for three weeks. I'm also a gambler, you know, so fuck, dude. Yeah, I'll take the point on that.

That's one point for me. No, I'm an NBA playoffs change my sleep pattern. So, yeah, I'm always been an NBA dude over college. Something's missing to me. My favorite, and maybe it was just an age thing. My favorite time in the NBA was like the early 2010s. Really? Yeah, that was my...

That's an interesting point to choose. You know, the 90s are obviously great. We grew up in the 90s. I'd go back to the 90s and a heartbeat. But I just loved, like, all that LeBron ascending, having to go through these teams, like the Celtics. The Western Conference was so badass. You had, like, Dirk. You had the Spurs.

Is that a weird time period for me to like? No, no, no, no. I think most people are like, oh, most people default to the 90s. But 2010's a great. I'm a Memphis Grin' Grind guy. So, like, yeah, there you go. Whop that trick, indeed. Good.

Next one. Raves about coffee. Coffee is part of their personality. No. Hate coffee. Can't do coffee. I feel like I need a... I mean, I'll take a half point on that.

Okay. I'll take a half point, so we'll go ahead and award me the full point. That's fine. Coffee costs. No, give him a half point. I like this is on your honor. This is Spencer's the guy we trust. I mean, we never met, but I trust him.

And so this is like a snob about it, but, you know, we're like golfers. I'm super pro. Yeah, we're like golfers. Like his balls, you're going to play it as it as it lies. That works. Here we go. Participates in Frisbee sports.

Can Jam? Does that count? Nah, I think we're both over on this. Okay, if can jan doesn't count, but I will play the fuck out of some can jam, dude. Canjib. Do you know what canjam is? The trash cans with the holes in it, with the frisbees? You got to play that if you get a chance.

Okay, none of us. Okay. Next one. Loves Conan O'Brien. You go first. You know what? Award a point. I think he's great.

I think I would really like Conan O'Brien if I ever watched him. But I'm not going to get myself a point there. Yeah, I think I love like the memory of like prime 2000s Conan. So yeah. I've seen some funny YouTube shit like Matt was talking about. Matt, I think you pulled up one of the videos one time with him and his producers walking into some guy's apartment or something. Yeah, he had a producer Jordan Schlansky.

They made a ton of videos with who would like arrive to the office late and he'd confront him and all that stuff. Yeah. Them getting high and going to Popeyes is amazing. Oh, I got to see that one. Yeah. A lot of variability on Popeyes. Could be really good Popeyes. Could be not so great Popeyes.

Store to store. Just want to point that out. Be careful out there. Yeah. Next one. Has worn shorts and sub 40 degree weather. Point. Point.

Guilty is charged. I will get the shakes, though, up top. If I'm not covered up up top enough, I get really cold. I just want to say that. Yeah, you're your butt. body fat's too low you're just too you're too in shape after we're gonna work on that yeah i gotta go back to my football weight dude i'm such a wimp dude i could never be a viking like in that movie i saw last night the northman which is don't just don't don't okay don't well no do but be ready to

laugh it's like that i mean i mean i'm gonna see it i like i will see any movie that has people with axes attacking each other so yeah there's a lot of that they're fucking hitting each other with their axes has said ready to rock and roll when getting ready to leave sure give me a point don't be a point sure yeah because

you know what it's so funny I never said it my entire life then had kids and started just saying it oh yeah I know that's a dad thing that's a dad thing totally bro okay I got a point you had a little preview to this earlier but knows the chorus to Mr. Brightside

I don't. I can hum it. I can... I'm okay. I don't do it. Jealousy. Jealousy turning snakes into the sea. Shoking on Sakela,

or was it? Oh, no. I don't. I've lost it. Oh, good for you, dude. Good for you. Nobody was clean. Okay.

Next one. Has a pair of new balances that are at least 10 years old. Absolutely. Negative. Okay. I have one pair that's definitely over 10 years old. I'm a Chuck Taylor guy every day, though.

I don't know if that's, you know, a totally white guy move, but like a white dad move for sure. I might, so I might be next level white dad because I have Hokas, which are cushy for, yeah. No, you don't have Hokas, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. That should be too. One of my best resell items on eBay. He's a thrifter, dude. Okay, yeah.

Hocas have real good resale value. Because we're ready to shell it out for the Hoka. No, Hoka dads, we out there. Yeah. Out there. That's so funny. Keep score at home. Some of you white motherfuckers at home or lighten up the scoreboard.

Next one. Has a favorite TED Talk. I have one, but it's the only one I know. It's your favorite, though. Paul Nicklin. It's your favorite? Sure. National Geographic reporter.

I'll give myself a photographer. I'll give myself a point. Yeah, negative. Okay. I won't watch someone talk with one of those. The minute I see one of those like headphone mics, I'm out.

That guy's either laundering money or doing something with money or he's got a mega church. Or somebody taught me into church and I'm out. If you got hair gel in one of those, you're definitely talking me into God. Dude, if you got hair gel and like the headset mic, just go ahead, wait on the federal charges.

I'm not engaging, bro. I'm not even watching a social. I'm on Instagram. Swipe, dude. Swipe. next one earpiece of fucking some hair gel played lacrosse in high school

yes i'll take it a point negative that's you know what though that's it down south it's not as easy to get sucked into that lax it really is it yeah no you're like that mid-atlantic thing new york Virginia especially yeah like lax is huge it's not that big down here yet

yeah it's moving south though owns multiple patagonia's sure yes and i I do, bro. I love Pagonia, man. I'm not even going to, I know what it makes me look like when I roll up somewhere, but I also don't give a fuck because, like, you know, I'm not looking to make any new friends.

I prefer, uh, I prefer other more specific brands. So yeah, like I think I get a negative here, but it should be a point, right? Cause like, I'm like, no, no, no. It's another extremely white. So you like Cota Paxi or Lula? You know, got some Mark Terrix.

Mark Terrix. Yeah. fucking pricey. It's Tray Share, buddy. That's that channel 6 money going to the Arcterics. I have no idea way. Dude, that Arcterics is a Yeah, I've never ever

heard these brands. Yeah, well, you got to be out in the cold, usually like, Archteris is the shit I bought to climb Killy, dude. Like I was like, yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to be cold. I need to spend, you know, a rent check on a jacket. Yeah. But if you're wearing it around Atlanta, I don't know,

Spence. Oh, no, that's not no. It's just Anytime I go someplace actually cold. Yeah. I'll put that on. So I look like a badass. I'm like, I just got one layer on. Yeah,

it's like space material. No, I can't send my kids to college, but I have one layer on. Yeah. Go ahead. Like I only own one car. It's a Ferrari.

You know. Next one on the list, likes to go antiquing. Fuck yeah, dude. I love a hutch. Sure. that's that's that's a negative my attention span is far too short for that oh i love i love furniture man

mid-century modern all that shit dude i love it dude i love it i hate it when it when somebody will walk into our house and be like this house is beautiful meg you must have really done a great job and i'm like easing into the fucking inching into the picture to be like yeah i pick furniture too man love furniture okay next one you have a multi-tool no I can't fix anything bro nothing no multi-tool does a Swiss army knife kind of as a multi-tool? I don't even have a Swiss army knife

I think it would be like a leather man is what we're talking about yeah leather man yeah I don't I don't but that's only because I would lose it can you fix shit? Ah I'm like I can I can do basics I can do basics you don't want me on anything more than that

Yeah, you know. Yeah. Dude, if my wife is into handymen, like, hey, the castle door is open, man. Like, there's nothing I can do about it, bro. Come fix my sink, dude. You know, fuck. There's nothing I can do about it. Okay. Next one. Saying graciest at a Mexican restaurant. I do not do that because it drives me fucking crazy. No, highly self-conscious about that. No, no, absolutely not. I love that that struck a nerve he's like no no dude

no you know you gotta know right I'm on the same page dude when you walk when you walk into how's this when you walk into a room full of black people you gotta assume yeah they're all like that guy's probably racist you just gotta

you just gotta be like that's everything I'm doing here underpinning all of my actions and everything I can be cool for two years I'm walking to that same room and I know that two years it one day. Somebody's going to be like, any minute

now. Any minute now, dude. Sleeper cell. Sleeper cell. Like, I know it. Honestly. When you're not a racist in America, if you're aware of how things actually are, the biggest tension for us is not racism, it's actually just walking down the street and figure that everybody fucking hates you. Mostly rightfully so. You just got to, you got to know that if you're

at the Mexican restaurant and, you know, the guy's serving you, the lady is serving you and you go, is that all? And you say, thanks. You got to know they'll be like, here it comes. He's got to say something stupid. He's got to test us. You got to know. They just expecting you to be a dumb ass.

Un aqua? Unhaqua? Para me sustetes? They're just expecting you to just bust out the Peggy Hill Spanish on you, right? Like, that's Escochame. Escochime. I was in Mexico with my parents recently, and my mom started to try to talk in Spanish.

and I was like, Mom, they deal with you and people like you every day. You don't need to, you could just, you could just shoot from the hip. Yeah. So that's a negative, that's a negative on me because I'm like, no, no, no. I don't. That's entry level behavior. Yeah. Okay.

Spelling out letters on the phone. For example, N as in Nancy. Yes, dude. The P is in Peter. My problem is that when I get certain letters, I don't know what to use anymore. You know, tango and. Do I go full pilot? Zed?

It's hard, dude. It's hard to be in a white dad giving out an address. That's Zeper. You might as well give me two points of this one. I always do that. Oh, dude,

I always, I live on, I live on redacted. I can't say the name of my road, but I'll spell things out that are clear. Yeah, that's a point for me. Okay. Allergies complaining about them.

Yeah, I did it last week. Last week I made an Instagram post about the, allergy is the tree pollen dude I told Meg yesterday that the ragweed was high

before we walked outside the pollen out here is pretty bad okay so what about you Spencer do you get on pollen forecast.com I am a negative I will not yeah so I won't

yeah because I don't I have one wing of the family that was like super christian scientist and by that i mean there was one of them but when there's like one christian scientist in your family everyone else is like no i'm not a bitch you know like yeah one person is like you know i'm gonna pray over this broken leg they're like yeah man just walk it off walk it off dog when i found out this kid my grade wouldn't take any adville i was like man this kid is like a total gangster bro yeah like this is this is a this is a i think this is a again a different type of white behavior, which is I come from the wing of white people who are like,

life's grim, don't complain. Die. He's like a Quaker. What's your solution to that? Should probably just go die or get better. I don't know. You should go figure that out. Quit being a little bitch.

That's so good. You know, we say a lot. It's not the heat. It's the humidity. That's definitely dead. my dad they got a they got a place in Arizona my parents when they became snowbirds

that's where they decided to do it because he has to do Fox on the West Coast so now he stops there rather than going six hours every fucking week each way back but he said within the first six months of why it's great to be in Arizona it's not the heat it's the humidity so yes I mean like Howie Long I've inherited it

I'll give myself a point for sure you give me an extra point for that. That's my own submission. Here we go. Dries hands by shaking them. I don't do that. I don't do that, dude. And I don't like the, I don't like the hand dryer thing either.

It's good for the environment, but I don't like it. I don't like those. This is where I say no, because I know somebody has to clean that up. I think that's dad level behavior where you go, well, that's a mess. No question. Somebody's going to clean that up. Additionally,

additionally, I think this gets me to introduce my rule that the more you paid for school, the less likely you are to wash your hands. Like, go hang out at any Ivy League function. Go watch those people don't wash their hands. They don't. None of them. What about dropouts from good schools,

the guys that didn't finish their degrees at good schools? No, definitely, because they didn't even finish their degree. How are they going to finish? I got to keep my hand sanitizer on deck then. Yeah, I got hand sanitizer. everywhere but you know there was a time in my life where I didn't wash my hands a lot that's true like people who work in the service industry wash their hands because there's signs for it yeah you have to do it yes you're right about that very true so

true saying see you next year on New Year's Eve fuck yeah dude you put me down for a point every New Year's Eve bro put me down for a point every New Year's Eve and then in the morning I'm gonna say I haven't seen you all year I'm gonna say I'm gonna say negative and it's just a personal thing. I usually don't know what day it is. So that's the one day I do. That's good. Yeah, no. Yeah. Fuck. Okay. Does hand motion

of packing a dip, even without a dip can in him? You mean like this? Yep. Look, like you just did. I didn't do it though. You know how to do it. But I can't do it. I can't. I dip every day. Okay. Every day of my life since I was 13, I've dipped. But I've never been able to pack dip like that like all the cool kids with the with the hats with the fishing but it just does it's doing the

motion so you've done it though I can't do it dude because my thumbs fused but I could never do it anyways I could never make the dip can slap how about you spence no negative never did that because if I did anything involving nicotine I would never stop so because it's just it's so good so no never did that it is good I've never I've never smoked a cigarette either oh wow Hey, you know, Kodiak rebranded? You've never smoked a cigarette? No. You are missing out, dude.

Other things, other things, yes. I know. I've never stopped. Because there is no buzz, like that first cigarette buzz where you just lay on the ground. No, I'm with him. I've never smoked a blackout, but I've never smoked a cigarette. Let's have a heater on here, dude. No.

How much money? No. No. No. Bro, like secondhand smoke, like from cigarette, like the rush I get to my feeling in my forehead, I just don't understand. how people like suck down cigarette. Because you're just getting the smoke, not the nicotine.

You need the nicotine to offset that. And we better get the menthols while we still can, dude. Yeah, I heard new perks aren't even menthol anymore. People don't know it. They're going out. They're going out of business. No, I've seen the look on people's face when they take that first drag. No, no, I don't want to, but that's, I don't want to shake that devil's hand.

No, crazy story. I'd live to tell about it. I lit a blunt off a drag off a cigarette, not having a lighter one time. And I promise you, I, my knees got. week and I almost passed out like right away like that those three little puffs to get my blunt lit off of a cigarette so that where I did get that nicotine that I've never felt the lightheadedness so it's the perfect hey it's 2 a.m. I'm beer drunk. Give me two of those new ports. I don't know that I'll finish both of them but I definitely won't have three I definitely

won't have three yeah that's like the threshold it's like two days in Vegas two cigarettes. Hey the thing I was going to tell you is you like NASCAR remember the Codyack car? Yeah. That's my dip of choice. They, they rebranded. It's a terrible looking can now for anybody at home that dips

Kodiak. It's awful. Doesn't use a washcloth or lufa in shower. I don't use a washcloth or lufa. Dude, but you know what I do use? A bar of dial soap. I'm military clean, bro.

I'm like, you can't clean your whole body like that. Yes, you can, bro. I have a technique for the back, bro. technique from the back. I don't want to know. I don't need a fucking, I don't need a stick with something on it,

dude. It helps. I don't use that shit, bro. I don't use that shit at all. So I'm a, I'm a poof guy. I'm going to go ahead. I use the poof.

Use the poof? The little thing? Oh, yeah. A whole thing. You don't have to, bro. No, that was, that's, I'm a total convert to the poof. Evidently about 50% of people

are walking around with, without Lou. usage and you're not smelling them. Well, the lufa, the lufus, you know, for exfoliation. That's what I always thought of it. Yeah. I thought of, I'm not getting my very sensitive skin. If I lufa myself, I'll break out or something.

So what do you buy washcloths for it? What is your wife buying? Like, you don't use like wash clothes. They're hand towels, bro, in white people's houses, bro. They're just hand towels. How do you wash your face? I wash my face with soap, bro. Just hands, soap.

This is amazing. That's pretty much like the beer. The beer, do you get a special wash for? But yeah. Yeah. Okay. I am extremely well-crued. Now, there's a spot in the center of my back that I might not get to.

But the water gets it. There's a chart for people, for guys that take showers. Have you ever seen it? It's like all these places like you use soap here, use soap. And then in the middle, it's water will get it. There's a few places like that. And it's just my middle back, not to be. But go ahead.

Okay. Feels comfortable taking their shoes off around anybody. I am a hit dog hollering. I will take, I don't care. He's a hit dog hollering, dude. And I, I will too.

I will too. My kids walk around barefoot. I walk around barefoot. It's okay. Yeah, it's my house. It's fine. That's it.

If I can pee in my backyard and walk around barefoot, I am extremely happy, dude. Also, I think it's more abnormal to walk around in socks than it is to walk around barefoot. Totally with you. Like, it is because, Barefoot, people have been walking around barefoot for millions of years, walking around

in a pair of white socks. Like to me, one of the most embarrassing things in the world is to be a white dude in knee high socks in your underwear walking around your house. Just take off the socks. I hope nobody does that anywhere. It's an embarrassing visual. You can take the most beautiful man in the world and you can put him in a pair of old school boxer shorts and office socks, right?

Like up to the knees. Oh, I know. The mid-length, the mid-length, like right here. Yeah, then the sex appeal would immediately die. Just right out the window. Yeah, dude, fuck that. I don't do that. I don't walk around in socks.

There's no point. It's all or nothing. Okay, next one. Likes raisins and potato salad. No. Negative on both. I don't even like potato salad. Okay.

I don't like mayonnaise. There's mayonnaise in there. I don't think raisins are food. I'll just go that far. I had raisinettes at the movies last night. Well, that's chocolate. That's just chocolate with a hitchhiking Yeah, you're right

Raisin. That's it. The raisin's just a medium there. It's a Ramora. Yeah, that was just some way that they got fat kids in the 60s to eat raisins. Here, cover them in chocolate. Put some chocolate on it.

Which I don't even think. Pretzels too. Yeah. Confusing, possibly racist flag sticker. On the truck? You know I don't have any bumper stickers. And I think we all know that from on out, bumper stickers especially

that have a flag looking offshoot on them is like a nah, dude, I can't do it. And we got some really sweet gear recently and you tell me where you stand on this, Spencer. It's like one of these companies that replaces the stars in the American flag, which is sacrilege, with a

state outline kind of thing, like a Virginia paddle company thing, like river company. Now, the is really nice. It fits really well. The whole thing, it's brown and and tan. I want to wear it, but it's got like one of those like, hey, maybe from 12 yards out, I know where you were January 6th thing going on. Yeah, you know, like, that's the problem is that it'd be cool if you could wear that. But the overlap with suss is like way too strong. So that goes that goes for like, like it's sad, you know, and I hope like you reclaim it. But like before all of this happened, the don't trust.

on me flag the Gadsden flag that's a badass flag right it's got a rat like that's one of the most American looking things got a rattlesnake it's got you know don't tread on me it's basically like let's fight and you can't use it anymore because a bunch of dumb asses too so like that's the truth i've we we talk about that license play a lot around here it used to be oh look at that cool yellow license plate kind of looks tough and just like you're saying the last couple years bro i kind of want to tap my friends and be like hey you know you can change that license plate now. You might want to see what people are using that at. Like, I don't know if you watch TV. Yeah, I think I'm at that level of bumper sticker participation

on a car where it's probably in support of something my kid is doing. Yeah. Or, you know, maybe the most vague, general associate of bumper sticker, like I'd put a Florida sticker on there. That seems pretty, it seems like a University of Florida sticker, not the state, because Lord knows, I don't know who would just be like, yeah. Florida. The state of Florida? I think some people are pretty unapodied. 100% down with it.

Yeah, like, oh, I don't know if you want to sign up for that. I think there's unfortunately. That's a dangerous endorsement. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people willingly doing that. For sure. Yeah. All right. So that's negative.

Okay, negative for me too, yeah. We got for the last one done in extreme sport. Okay. What's an extreme sport? I guess what? Anything in the X games? Extreme spots. Anything in the X games, probably.

Okay. White boying is basically what we're talking about. Okay. So I'm going to start listing things and you just tell me, you can be the judge. You've done. Rally car. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Stunt plane. Yes. Okay. Damn. I, you've got to give me a point just on those two alone. I feel like you've water skied just on your feet behind a boat before. Have you done that level of white boeing? I've definitely almost drowned behind a boat like that.

So yeah, I've got that. Body surfing? Got a peg. No, it's like, yeah. Kind of like, bare footing? Bare footing. Yeah, barefooting. Yeah, barefooting.

Um, water's getting barefoot. I've jumped off of high stuff, climbed, climbed mountains, but not done, um, like a wing suity thing. It's rock, rock, rock climbing. Rock climbing. Not like, not like hiking up a mountain, but I don't do caribate. I don't do like technical shit. Sport climbing. Okay, I've done that.

So yeah. Do you think I score for this? I would say no, and you definitely don't need the point. Yeah. Oh, I won. I don't know if you won. Lost. What's the score?

It is 14 to 7 and a half. Wow, I am two times the, what is it say on Mori? The results are in or whatever the fuck. And Chris Long is two times more Caucasian than Spencer Hall. I can't believe we're going to put it on there. You know you should win? What? Some mayo.

That's your favorites. I hate mayonnaise, too. See, that's the point I'll take. Yeah, he's fine. Chris hates me. Yeah, I wish. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Matt.

Spencer, just real quick before we get you out of here. Who do you like to win the finals, NBA? At this point, given the way they're playing the Warriors, because now they can do that will hang 30 on you in a quarter thing pretty regularly. And a team that can get a runoff like that. I don't know if you're out of any game, you know. And it's Jordan, like, and with Jordan Poole playing the way he's playing. So I really like the Warriors there.

I don't see anyone in the east I don't know what it is about being on the east coast You just can't score points at the same rate of somebody on the west coast Maybe it's humidity It could be and especially if we do your league Yeah You're not gonna be able to score any fucking points dude None for playing out if we're playing

That's the only way to stop the Warriors If we play the finals outdoors That's the way the that's the way the Hawks Win the whole thing That's the only way the Hawks win the whole thing Is that what it is? Is that why you did this whole thing? that's good. Oh, man.

Oh, listen, no. Like, that's the other thing. I live in Atlanta. You do not want to be of Atlanta sports, because that's just a recipe for misery. You really, like, on the whole, no. Spencer Hall has been really gracious with his time, and we appreciate it.

And he's going to be the new commissioner of the outdoor basketball league. He's going to be, like, the ice cube of the outdoor basketball league, Spencer Hall, among his many titles. Thanks so much for joining us, dude. No, thanks. Oh, and by the way, Holly says thanks for the skeleton. Hey, and by the way,

V and Spencer almost got to meet because you guys remember, if you remember we were talking about the skeleton gate, that's the Holly Anderson we were talking about that got my 17-foot skeleton that my wife said, no, we're not hanging that up here.

So yeah, dude, there's a lot of connections. We'll get you on again, dude. I appreciate it. All right, yeah, thanks, man. That's this one, y'all. Yeah, likewise, brother.