Green Light with Chris Long - Stanford Steve! COTY Frontrunners, Potential NFL Trades, Oregon vs Utah & NFL Week 8 Betting Insights

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

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Who's your coach of the year, Steve? You know, I've been thinking about this because to me, the conversation or not the conversation, thoughts I had in my head for a worst team in the NFL before the season were going to be the Rams or the Buccaneers. And I am totally wrong. So I will go, Todd Bulls. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Welcome to the Green Light, podcast. Thank you for jumping on today for another edition of Stanford Steve. We talk NFL locks, we talk potential NFL trades, we go through Monday night's game, the 49ers against the Vikings, the Vikings pulling off the surprise upset behind Jordan Addison's great performance. Steve also gives us the lowdown on a couple of college football games this weekend, gives out his awards,

and talks about how much fun he's going to have in Salt Lake City this weekend for Oregon against Utah. You'll please enjoy the great episode. Go check it out on YouTube, if you don't mind. That'd be great. And we will catch it for a freak show and a very special guest on Friday. Time of tape, you know, 5 o'clock, Tuesday. I don't know what happened to the Phillies. I hope it was good.

I have no idea. I'm probably going to end up betting them again, Moneyline. I rushed at 506 yesterday to get the bet in and didn't realize that when you bet at, you should probably look at the money line. They're pretty variable in baseball. It's not depending on the starting pitcher. They were like minus 180 last night.

Yeah, it wasn't great. And I don't know how I feel about tonight because I don't know anything about what's going on. Minus 165 money line. Okay. Should be more of a bullpen game from Philadelphia. A bullpen game. The last time they had one of those,

I never wanted to hear the words bullpen game. Again, as somebody who's not a watcher of the MLB for most of my adult life, like catching up on it the last couple years. Bullpen games are the wildest fucking thing in the world. Nine pitchers. Yeah.

It's like every five minutes. So I... They're matchups. They're advanced analytics. I'm getting nervous. Anyways, we hope that when you listen to this, the Phillies are in the World Series. And my layup line...

Yeah. Okay. Steve doesn't like the Phillies either. Shout out to the Rangers, by the way, for ending that Elastro's thing. Yeah, that's great. That's great. Even though I didn't think about it,

you would have got home field if you're the Phillies. If you take care of business tonight, you get home field against the Astros. But the thought of losing worst case scenario to the Astros, I can't stomach it. The Rangers won the ALCS last night. Okay? And the reason I like the Rangers is because of Creed.

Creed. And my own prison is today's layup line. And I played two minutes and 46. of that fucking song for you guys before the show started. And I watched you all struggle to figure out who it was, what the song was. It's one of the most iconic songs in the 90s.

And it also proves that Creed is not bad, because here's the transcript of what was said as the song came on. Soundgarden? Question mark. 20 seconds later, who is this? Five seconds later. It is Chris Cornell.

right this is at 134 Chris Cornell is a great singer someone said and then someone said was that was making well fuck you and then and then I just I eventually turned the song off because we got through the chorus and it was like you guys said where were you in the 90s in our own prison yeah but that's what the Texas Rangers have done they've created their own prison you guys ask for it you guys there's a 50% chance you've created your own prison okay if the debacks win you're on your own but anyways

I fucking I'm excited about tonight so that's lay-up line well the NBA games too I will be undoubtedly betting some NBA with no information on what to do and that's why you're here Matt yeah I like the Lakers tonight against the Nuggets and then the Warriors are actually

retiring KD's jersey tonight even though he only played their three seasons so people are like that's actually an interesting uh very strange isn't it yeah What is that like? Like when you know you don't feel like you're wrong, but you apologize anyways?

That's an Alfred plea. Alfred, yeah. What is that? You can convict me, but I'm not going to admit to it. Okay, got it. Got it. It's a weird thing. I assume they're not taking away the number 35.

It's a Jersey thing, not a number thing, which is more palatable, but still odd. Yeah, it's odd. I mean, what if he, What if he beats them in the conference finals? He gave his Achilles to that franchise, dude. That's why they're retiring it, I think. You think it's the Achilles thing?

I mean, went up to Canada, gave his Achilles, and helped them win a championship, right? Yeah, for sure. I don't know about you guys, but I'm such a sicko for NBA. I'm actually going to go to the Wizards game on Saturday. Thank you, game time. This is so funny. I'm going to give Best Seat in the house to Matt Kingston,

because on the ride over here, he picked me up from the airport. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm going to the Wizards and the Grizzlies game on Saturday. And I was like, what a sicko you are. How are the Wizards? He's like, not very good. I said, at least you get to see Jha.

Forgot about the suspension. 25. So he's essentially going to like a Red Zone game in the NBA. But the NBA is fun to go see in person. So I'm excited. Yeah, ticket prices aren't too bad for that one either. And you're kind of a sicko for gambling. I have some fix for you if you want them.

Well, so I have till like 7 o'clock to get these in, people who are listening right now obviously can't get these in so don't rub it in that we have the the right basketball win totals to bet but i think what's interesting going to you you can't just bet in the NBA based on it's a little like football where you're like oh the cardinals they're not trying to win but every team even if they're trying to win they might rest guys yeah some teams are trying to win in the playoffs and like don't care about the regular season like the heat yeah or the eight seed last year made the title made the finals yeah uh all right so real quick blazers under they are hard willing to tank they're playing rookie scoot Henderson like all the time

their totals 28 and a half but I love the under there boy that's a big gulp you're taking before you 28 games like they need a top five pick this year so they're going to want to have the worst record in the league I used to be my side team over 30.5 people are forgetting about lamello PJ Washington's good they have a good team they picked up Joe Ingalls one of my favorites Celtics over 53 and a half best off season in the NBA by far the fallout of the Damien Lillard trade was that the Celtics became the best team in the league probably with Drew Holiday and then magic over 36 and a half wins Kevin Clark I love that they got Franz Wagner like one of the best young players in the game Palo Boncherro looked great for team USA over the summer and then a couple specials Tyresearchan plus 500 to be the steals leader lakers to win the Pacific division I love the lakers they are hungry to show that they were competitive with Denver in that sweep last year.

So what's the number you're getting the Lakers at if you go team total? 47 and a half, I believe. And so that must be palatable to you, sir? I like that over too. But to win the division plus 340, you can, you know, you can really make some money there. Careful. That LeBron's going to be 39 years old this year.

Yeah, Kevin Durant for the Suns, 35. Like, I think they're going to load manage him just as much. LeBron really cares about season-long awards. You have to now play 65 games to get some. season long awards like obviously health is concerned with Anthony Davis but they're playing this guy austin re's got dopey sideburns yeah but he can he can ball he's really good and i think lebron's going to let him let him take over a lot of the ball handling load and then the long shot special magic to win the southeast division i do not believe in the hawks i do not believe in the heat

that could get you i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna get on the magic over and the blazers under Let's do it. Because they're enjoyable experiences. Baseball totals, I'll never do it again. Ever, dude. It's like pointless. You check once a month and you just do a bunch of math. Can't remember anything.

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Yeah. It's just like basketball, baby, 23 and a half points. Here's your loss. Now, when I was a wee boy, Steve, there wasn't such a thing as Virginia Tech. They were in the Metro conference. And in many ways, they still are. So was Florida State. But it was Carolina, you know?

I had a bumper sticker on my bed. because, you know, I wasn't advanced as a 7-0-1 driving. Yeah. And I said my two favorite teams are Virginia and whoever's playing North Carolina. That's so funny because for a while there, I really got pulled into the powder blue thing. Well, it's an intense attraction. Yeah. And the school is reputable.

It's a shiny object. Michael Jordan and the color powder blue. That's really all you have going for you. Also, I went on Wikipedia that you people from Chapel Hill. It's the whole fucking alumni base. We don't have that under the... the Charlottesville Wikipedia. Yeah.

It's like the one lost the UMBC and the Klan came here one time. Oh. And Tina Faye. It was, it was fall break for UNC. Really? 92% of your kids are from the state of North Carolina. That's a lot of words to have on a bumper sticker.

It said it was Virginia and big letters, you know? And then my two favorite teams are Virginia. Anyways. It's a lot of words. Anyways. No fucking game day at Chapel Hill, is it? I mean, no, it's just basketball. Nope.

I'd have to wait. You'd have Ben Folds come back there. I was like, oh, Ben Folds is from Chapel Hill? No, he just went to UNC or something. He, like, spent time on campus. Oh, oh, Eric Church, got a drink in your hand? You went to App State, my friend. Easy.

Marty's a friend of the program. We don't want to talk about the chief. Marty, oh, hokey? Degree says Radford. At least Stanford Steve. You had that in your back pocket. He was here. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So before college game day, Steve, we got to talk about the NFL Monday night. We talked about it on the show coming in. I thought this would be a trouble spot for the Niners, but I did not think they'd lose this game. I mean, seven points a lot for a team that tends to play some close ones at home.

Against the Niners defense that we, this is a game, Steve. where I feel like in the NFL, I'm not going to judge a team for having one bad game. But when they have that terrible game and they have all this time to get ready for the next one and they come out and they play poorly in spots on both sides of the ball, I think it's something to worry about.

But I do want to start the breakdown because I'm learning this as I go. You got to, the fan bases want to hear about the team that won first. If I'm a Minnesota fan, I don't want to hear about San Francisco 49ers first. I'm only going to do that to Pat's fans. Just fucking with you guys.

but but like let's start with kirk cousins man this is like when i got out steve and this is my my foray into nfl gambling i'm sitting at home i'm hitting the app it's my first fallout and i'm betting i bet the viking i think against the seahawks or something like that on monday night and i announced it on twitter which is a mistake because people are going to tell you're wrong but they hit me with all the kirk cousins primetime stuff and i did not realize that was a thing that was thing. I was breaking a, you know, a cardinal, I was doing a cardinal sin. And I did it again last night, not knowing why it'd be any different, but it was. And I just, I want to shout out Kirk Cousins. His track record is not great in prime time. Some of it's not his fault. But I thought he was

tremendous last night. And, you know, for Brock Purdy getting a lot of shit today, but people are going to point out the guys he's missing, they're missing Justin Jefferson. Okay. And, and they did a great job. No run game. Not really. And, you know, third downs, the whole thing, I think O'Connell's as good a young coach as there is, although I thought at times they were a little conservative, you know, like down in the red zone and then with nine minutes left punting. But that is almost like a, hey, I like our matchup and I like the way this is playing out.

They can't get off the field. Why would I punt? If we get the ball back, we're going to score. And I feel good about our defense. So I just tip my cap to those guys. And obviously Jordan Addison is, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, Like he's been doing this stuff, but we haven't had a chance to see him in prime time. And he went off last night.

Yeah, a bunch of things. We did Daily Wager Monday. And that's the first thing that comes up. Kirk Cousins, prime time, you know, bad struggles. And I asked the question because I get at a point. We do so many graphics and, you know, we have people that work hard and research and all that. And they throw up the record, 11 and 19 in prime time. I'm like, okay.

I get it. That's everybody's joke, everybody's favorite thing on the internet. How many times was he an underdog in those spots? Yeah. That's not a, that's not a fair assessment to me. So I've never been one of these pile on people of, I'm blindly betting Kirk Cousins in primetime, and it's just not what I like to do. I don't think it's fair,

and it doesn't tell you the whole story. So that whole thing is out of it. and I really looked at it. You can't underestimate the sign of desperation, especially in the NFL locker room. You're kidding me? Knowing what their schedule is. I don't know how many more prime time games they even have

and have this opportunity and to try and forget what San Francisco looked like the week before. But then when I look at it, I'm like, okay, Trent Williams, that's a big deal to me. When I am assessing a game and the best left tagging on the game is not playing, and I'm in a road game situation. Okay, now I've got a backup. What's the toughest thing for offensive line on the road?

Snap count, noise, that whole thing. Now I've got a backup against one of the best guys there is. All right. Now I got my X factor, Debo, he's out. Okay. And right there, I'm like, okay, desperation, cousins. They've already, you know, worked out the kinks without Jefferson. Plenty of unselfish guys.

They still have a stud in Hawkinson. They got running back second, you know, gain yards. yardage. And I just, home, underdog, Monday night, it had all the, all the likings. And then we get to the show for daily wager and 82% of the monies on the Niners. I said, give me the seven points. Which is wild, because if you're, if you're sharp at all, you have a little bit of it in you. You think like, you think, yeah, bet the Niners off that tough spot last week. But it just wasn't true. It just wasn't true. And it's like you have to trick Dick Vegas like twice. But I mean, I thought with Kirk, the biggest key was, you mentioned the running backs, you mentioned Hawkinson,

they really have more than you think. Yes. But the two tackles. Now, me and Nolan were going through this earlier, O'Neill and Darisaw. You know, Darisaw being like elite, kind of on the edge of elite, but I love what he gives you in the run game, so he's unique that way. And you talk about Trent missing. They missed him in the run game.

You're like, what's wrong with the Niners? Nobody wants to talk about the run game. Trent's a fucking beast in the run game. Okay, Darisaw is good in the run game. and then on top of that, O'Neill is a quality starter. So you have two tackles you don't have to worry about. I don't know where you'd rank them.

You know, like I think Philly's got the number one, one-two punch. There's also like the Lions are real good. The Seahawks are real good. But this group's right up there, and they kept Kirk clean. And they couldn't, you know,

and I think that's like, when you look at this game, I don't know who you blame more. And we'll get to the Niners' offense. But I think in general, if you're the Niners, there was this sense that they had this unstoppable force up front because of the numbers of guys.

And I think Nick Bosa being the headliner and everything, but when you take him away, who's winning? And for Steve Wilkes, the biggest decision of the game comes with, what, 17 seconds to go in the first half, no timeouts. They're like the 35, their own 35. And in this circumstance, you're still in this game. You've played like shit, you turn the ball over in the red zone. 10-7.

You know, you threw up, the whole thing. It's 10-7. So what are you doing this situation? You got this great group rushing up front, who by the way just traded for Randy Gregory. I don't know if that's a big deal or not. It didn't cost him anything, but it's saying like we don't like something about the way this is going right now.

And he got a lot of snaps. He's gotten a lot of snaps over the last two weeks. But in that situation, Steve Wilkes is like, let me heat these guys up. And I think it was the one call you couldn't make. And, yeah, the chances of that happening, the wrestling match for the ball. Addison, like, great.

Him and Ward. They're wrestling the whole first half. But in that situation, you know, I don't know if they'll be able to clock it if they tackle him, but the risk is too, it's too much. And that's what happened. And from that point on, that's the difference in the game,

along with the fact that you miss a field goal in the first half, that you fumble in the red zone. And by the way, you're drafting kickers. And I always, it's kind of a bit with me. But like the guy's got to be better. to the point where on fourth and six, and Purdy, we'll talk about Purdy, just missing on third and six late in the game,

you know, like, that is a drive where I think they go score. And instead, you're kind of like, let's give this kicker basically a long putt so he doesn't feel the pressure of it, and he drills a 55-yarder, but it's all those things offensively. It's missing Trent, it's missing Debo. If you look at them over the last two weeks,

this is from like next-gen stats, but Brock's been bad in the middle of the field in EPA. I'm talking about intermediate depth. Over the first five, six weeks or something, he was plus 65 in EPA. Now he's like minus six over the last two weeks. So take from that what you will, but I think it means they're missing Debo.

You know, I think he's missing Debo. I think he's missing Trent. And I also think you're seeing that he's a fucking human being, man. Let these quarterbacks be human beings. I've criticized them in the past relative to the way people have talked about him because I've been like pumped the brakes on the top five quarterback thing. But also in the same vein, he's going to have a bad game.

And that's a lot of blitz. You know, like Steve, that's a lot of fucking blitz to keep focus every play. Yeah. Even if they're not all well-timed or perfect. Oh. So I'm not excusing him, but I am saying like he'll get this fixed, I think, but he also needs the weapons. This Niners team, unless it's fully healthy, is not like the Super Bowl favorite.

If they're healthy, they're right there. Correct. Yeah, I mean, third down is terrible. The pass rush. Steve, not to rant about the Niners here, but just forgive me because it's just me and my phone in a fucking SUV for four hours on the way up to Philly every Monday night. But the pressure on Nick Bosa right now to perform must be huge.

I know it's not must be. I know because I've been the big contract guy not to his degree. I was like, I wouldn't be doing this shit. No offense. I'm just joking. You see he's doing underwear ads. now. It wouldn't have been getting those either. But like,

he's got two and a half sacks, right? And we know sacks are not like the end-all be-all, and they're very dependent. Like last night they took him away. You know, they paid extra attention to him. Nick Bosa's got to be feeling that though, because every mouth-breathing fan in the NFL just looks at that stat and says,

where's Nick Bosa? But the unfair thing about making that kind of money is, and maybe it's fair, is people want to see that number, or else you're not going to be able to justify the money. And I know he's going through it. I can remember having slumps where I was just like, it affected my mental health looking at that number.

And I know he's going through it. Yeah, it's, there's just so much added into that. Like you talk about, like, guess what number one priority was for the Vikings going into that game on their offensive line? Nick Bosa. Yeah, like, you know, like. Not like playing Philly where it's like, oh, I got to choose. Correct. And it's like, all right, we're going to be able to chip here.

Let's go, you know, what's running an F, you know, short motion. Let's help on the edge here. All right. If he moves over here, we're going to motion this way, running back. Make sure your eyes are always, you know, we're 97. Like, it's just nonstop. And you could see him like a couple times. He just said, screw it.

I'm bullrush. I'm just going to try and collapse the pocket. And which is fine because you're still making a difference. But to your sense of talking about, you know, that number and, you know, all the mathematic people on the internet doing. you know, how many dollars he's getting paid per sack, like have fun with all that. But yeah, no, it's a lot of pressure.

I mean, the spotlight that these guys are on and knowing what that talk was all off-season and when they were going to get them and everybody knew the dollar amount or, you know, a guesstimate. Yeah, it's got to be a lot. And, you know, winning cures everything. Yeah. And when you go through two of those where you just can't put it together

and you're still that close too. like they played their C-C-minus game the last two weeks, and they, you know, they lost by eight points. You're going to lose games in the NFL. I don't know how long people have been watching the NFL, but you're going to lose games in the NFL. The problem is if, A, they can't get healthy, or B, the play from the quarterback continues.

That's it, because the defense is flawed. Like, it's not perfect. In the back end, they could use some help in some places. I think they're as good as anybody in the middle of the field because, you know, Fred Warner and the safety play with Ufonga. they obviously have a rush group that most people would love to have but there's something about either the fractions of time right now

or the variations of the coverage that they're calling that these guys can't for those fractions of time get home and I think that's the difference between having 50 sacks one year and 30 or 35 and that people look at that ranking and say shit but I also look at this it's Brock late in the game because Brock played well in spots through three quarters like there were spots where I was like, okay, that's Brock Purdy.

But right down to, I think it was like the end of the third quarter, he had a miss on a key down. And then from there, you had the two picks late, which I don't know what he's looking at. I think on one of them he thinks Murphy's going to run the seam. And then the first one, maybe there's something with the timing. You know, we talked about this, me and Noel, we're talking about how timing-oriented everything he does is.

It's a lot like Tua in, in in Miami. It's like he knows where somebody's going to be. He's looking at the picture. It looked like a miss on a spot throw. And yeah, it's a spot throw. And maybe Jennings is like a little late or a little bit, you know, not on the same page.

And that's also a window into how misleading he can be. And I'm not giving the guy an excuse because a week ago I was a hater because I said he hadn't proven that he's like a top eight quarterback yet. I can't say that for sure. You've got to win games like this when you're a little bit short-handed. Correct. I respect the hell out of him. I think he's a really good fucking quarterback,

and I'd love to have him on my team. The guys love him, but he's got to, he's the only person that can pull himself out of his little slump. And it can happen. It can happen fast. Yeah, I mean,

look how fast that thing turns. I mean, it's just like, that's why I think the heck out of a shannon. Like that, they get zero blitz. They go McCaffrey with that deep circle motion. And boom,

it's zero blitz. And you got one-on-one, you got a slot to the, to the bottom. those guys got one-on-one blocks and McCaffrey he has to make a guy miss, boom, gone touchdown. Yeah. And that place is like, oh, shit, here we go again.

Like, that's how fast it could happen in that league. And, you know, you go back right to the beginning, a red zone turnover. It's McCaffrey's second of the year. Right there, you know, your mindset, I'm not saying your game plan changes, but your mindset definitely changes. Know how, knowing how limited possessions are in the NFL,

And knowing that you just led a huge opportunity to get points on the board, get this crowd out of the game, take a lead on the road, which is exactly the recipe. And the talk was all we can practice. Like, you know, we started off in Cleveland up 7-0, and then we let it get away from it. Let's go up 7-0 and pounce on it. And they couldn't do it.

And that go back, you know, things that happen in the first half. It means a lot more in the NFL than it does in college football. So it wasn't crisp at all. But again, going back to it, this league is about winning games. and winning them when you don't play your best and you don't have your best guys and, you know, a win that's totally different. It didn't mean anything close to that last night,

but like the Giants. The Giants have a piece of shit together on the offensive line and you go play against the commanders with that defense and you claw out a win after an absolutely brutal loss the week before in Buffalo. Like that's what this league is. Yes. And that's why I say you got to forget what you see a team

looks like the week before. You have to do it because it's just so many things changes. I mean, especially in division, not in this case in Minnesota and San Francisco, but with the, you know, the Giants, the commies,

the pads, the bills, like these guys know each other. It's like, it's a different kind of thing. One more thing I would say is Chris McCaffrey played in every fucking snap for like three quarters at least of this game.

Now I didn't track it in the fourth quarter, but he's often oblique. You know, like you don't want to find out what it's like to play without him for an extended period. period of time. I can assure you. And, you know, at the end of the day, we'll, we'll cross the San Francisco Bridge when you come to it next week. I think they'll be better as guys get healthy. They reeled off 12 in a row last year after losing week six and seven. Yeah, we'll be,

that's a great point. And they'll be okay. But they got to get healthy. And I mean, listen, I can't finish the breakdown without shouting out Brian Flores. The guy, uh, has done a lot with a little bit of talent. I'm not saying they have nothing. There are some good players on that defense but they have played above in spots this year where I expect them to be and like last night's a win where you can be like hey our our system works now I know it doesn't work all the time it's rolling the dice every time you dial a bunch of blitz like that but you got to give credit where credits do and I think eventually it'd be nice to see him in a head coaching situation again I know that whole thing was crazy but I want to shout my guy out doing a good job up there okay um let's let's hear

about game day I know how it was for me You know, the nittney line in seven different ways. My kids are like, what does nittany mean? I don't know. Yeah. It was pretty eye-opening because I felt a sense that we were staying in Penn State's hotel fans Friday night walking around pretty confident. This is our time. What's done is done.

It's time for James Franklin to get a win. And I had thought that going into the game, watching the tape. I really thought Penn State's offensive line would hold up. in this atmosphere, but you saw it right off the get, guys. You know, you look at quarterbacks who haven't been in that kind of situation. I mean, it's sellout. Ohio's ready to go. And Alers, you know, just not himself. And you saw that with Aaron throws.

You saw that with him. I think overthinking, you know, the first third down, it's a simulated pressure. And they literally, I think they only sent three or four. And he gives the old, you know, double pump shoulder thing. and I'm like, oh boy, they might be in his head already. Yeah. And it was just catch up, you know, the scooped score nullified by a whole. That was brutal.

The swing of emotions there, dude. Yeah. And I'm standing right in front of it. Like, I saw the flag. So I know it's coming back. I mean, you got LaVar Arrington and everybody on the sideline going crazy. And then, you know, a couple minutes before the half, Ohio State scores to go up 10-3. and my buddy's standing next to me.

He's like, Penn State might be mathematically eliminated from this one. And sure enough, they can, I mean, their defense, I'll tell you, you know, I know Franklin's getting stuff for saying, you know, there's two championship teams. Those defenses are as real as, oh, God, playmakers all over. Penn State's secondary, I thought, battled all day. And, you know, the question was asked if Marvin Harrison Jr. was on Penn State Saturday. Do they win the game? Dude, what's up with, what's up with Mani Diaz treating him like Mitsubishi Marv, not Maserati Marv, which I didn't even know was a thing.

Yeah, I didn't, we're on the sidelines. We didn't have the TV feed. Gus was going to the well on that one. Yeah, I think they tried guessing, I think they guessed wrong a couple times, Chris, early on when you saw those one-on-ones. I thought Ohio State did a great job, though, of moving Harrison around. and whether you get those staggered shallows, you know, where you get the natural picks, a guy's running vertical and him being able to pick a side

to go underneath or over on top. And also, you know, contested catches. Penn State couldn't make one when it really counted. But, yeah, you know, later in the game, there's a, in the corner of the end zone, I think it's still 13, or 176, or 136. And they get Harrison, they bracket them, down in the red zone.

Great job. And they forced Ohio State to kick a field goal. So, uh, they just, it was just, I think it was just asking too much. Yeah.

For that much amount of time, they were on the field when you look at what third, Penn State did offensively third down to make their defense be on the field that long. Yeah. I mean, I think you saw it with Duke against Florida State. You know,

I, I, I find myself respecting the hell out of Duke and that team, but against Florida State, Norville calling those plays, uh, as good as he is. at that. You just, you can't hold up for that, as fast as these teams play, as many plays as there are, you just, you can't do it. And the offenses with the talent they have, it's just too much

to ask for when you're up against it, you know, on the road and atmospheres like that for those defenses. Let me ask you this. I was actually, my wife wanted to go to the movies this weekend, and, you know, she was like, how's Saturday? And, you know, when she asked how's Saturday, you're kind of like, well, college football would be nice, especially after I wanted to chase. after the Penn State game. But I said, fuck it, let's do it. Let's go see Leonardo DiCaprio's

greatest performance of all the time in Martin Scorsese's last film, Killers of the Flower Moon. And I'm tracking the Iowa, Minnesota game, which, by the way, the movie's not great. I heard.

Okay, I heard. I heard. I didn't know. But I'm tracking the Iowa game, the guy next to me, I'm sure. You know, when you're in a Leo movie, you feel like people are really apt to, like, this is cinema.

Put your fucking phone away. I can get away with that at Paw Patrol, but I'm tracking. Yes. You're totally right. You know, like, I'm on, I'm on cue. Like, I'm walking in. I'm like, kind of late.

People are going to be mad at me. Like, it's a film festival. It's fucking Killers of the Flower Moon. It's three hours of the same plot over and over again. It should have made an episodic thing. But I'm tracking Iowa, Minnesota. And it was the most confusion I've ever had on the score app because the thing was like malfunctioning.

It was like, touchdown. I nudged Meg. I'm like, we're good. You know, like the whole thing. And then I'm trying to like, look at the chat. which is like the bowels of sports social media is the chat on the score app. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Where do you land on what you saw at the end of that game?

Of Iowa? Yeah. Oh, God. I mean, where do you start and where do you end? Like, I, you got to blow the whistle right away, right? When it's a fair catch violation, that's usually blown dead right away. It's not a flag. It's a whistle and a flag.

But it's kind of, you know, I was asked all week, you know, going on our shows on the network, you know, what do you think? Iowa, Minnesota, the lowest over, under. I was like, yeah, take the over. Like, maybe the defenses will score. Yeah. That was totally wrong. Three of my picks on bad beats this week. That's not a great feeling.

Dude, we're not having a good couple. Speaking of comments on post, don't go on any of mine that. Okay. Yeah, there's nothing like people who think you owe them money. It'll turn. No, but listen. like yeah and they come in bunches so um you know that the whole point of calling for a fair catch is so people don't decapitate you right did anybody stop running did anybody stop trying to

no because they all ran into each other after he got to probably everybody's like trying to tackle the motherfucker you know like so i i know it might be like by the the letter of the law and everything but that was a brutal way to lose three teasers especially tracking it i can't imagine because the movie. I feel. Leo's just. You're Mr. unders.

So you love it. But like when I'm checking scores on my phone, traveling, whatever on the plane, whatever, in the car. And like there's no score change. I'm just looking at my battery,

just dying. I'm like, why did you check it already? Refresh. Why did you check it? Especially a big 10 game. I mean, so anyways,

where are you going this week? Is it Salt Lake City? Yep. Tell us about it. Fired up. Yeah. Fired up. I,

I think when you look at resumes amongst the one-loss teams, right? At the top of the rankings, you know, everybody waiting for that first edition of the college football rankings next week. But when you look at the resumes of the one-lossed teams, I think Utah should be at the top. Just what they've been up against. And now that they finally, I feel like they have their identity. You know, the rising situation, you could say it was mishandled. You could say people weren't smart up front or, you know, being truthful. But that's all part of everything.

And in college, when you can hide stuff and try and use stuff, I'm sure we'll get into, to find a competitive advantage. You know, you got to take that because guys are petrified of information getting out. But when I look at Utah, their resume amongst the one-lost teams is, is second to none, I believe, with the wins that they have. So I'm super fired up. It's always great to go there. When you look at that, I was saying this the other day,

when I think of Kyle Whittingham, you know, everybody makes a big deal, Ryan Day. It's Ohio versus everybody, Ohio against the world. Like Kyle Wittingham has built a program with that attitude. Yeah. Like everybody against us. And then on top of that, you know, it's going through it before the season. and I'm like Utah is kind of like the only team that is of all these teams that have switched conferences that's had success.

I mean, they got buried their first year in the Pack 12, but I mean, put their resume up against anybody in the conference the last couple years. And it's just, it's good as anything. I had TCU there, but there's still too much up and down.

You see that this year with after going to the playoff last year. But Texas and Ms. kind of stuck the landing, right? Yeah. No, two Mansell dependent. Yeah,

I mean, they still never played in a SEC title game. Yeah, that's a big taller task. After the game. Those guys, the one thing I do feel bad about for A&M, they still haven't played Georgia in College Station. Imagine that. Oh, yeah. After the game, Wittingham was asked what the win meant.

He was like, oh, like, well, I guess we're bowl eligible, but we don't really care about that around there. It was an awesome answer. I love the guy. I love the guy. You know, so I know it's everybody against Kyle Wittingham, but it's hard not to like him. I mean,

he just fucks up people's big spots. So you go in there. I forgot to ask you about the bar of the week. I was going to say that might be an issue in Salt Lake City. I don't know how that works. I googled it. Google says it's vibrant and exciting the nightlife. So yeah,

maybe you just drink outside. We'll figure out Salt Lake City. Maybe a little Clippers Jazz Friday night maybe. Oh, go check out that arena. Nice. Never know. It's, uh, Hyde Park, Columbus, Ohio. Don't get an argument with a fucking NBA player because they assume everybody in the crowd is racist in Salt Lake City.

I know that's like a thing in the NBA, they like go to Salt Lake City and they're just, Steve's going to have good seats. Who they plan? Uh, the Clippers. Who plays for the Clippers? Name a Clippers. Yeah. Kuwai. It's hard.

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I just had a NBA fancy draft. last night. I found out Dante Jimchengel's on the Knicks. Didn't know. Steve, it's a high of 73 tomorrow in Salt Lake City. Yeah, you know what's going to be Saturday when we go on there at 7 a.m.

local? High 48. 30. 30. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll maybe have a little. The old long johns might be busted out. Where do you lean? Where do you lean? In the game? Yeah. I hate the seven points.

I do think Oregon is as legit as there is when you look. at the one losses. They don't really have that signature win. When you look at the resume, obviously everybody goes back to the Colorado game, but seeing what Stanford did, the Colorado, I don't think that has much shine. I think Washington State's a good football team, and they gave them a dose last week in a spot where you wonder what the ducks are going to look like after an emotional loss at UW. So Oregon, this would be a month. I think this, this would jump them to the one lost teams. For me, knowing that Bama's on a buy and Bama plays LSU in two weeks.

And in Texas is, I think, just trying to get along and make progress with yours out a couple weeks that he's supposed to be. Penn State, I'm sorry, 31-0-0 over Iowa doesn't do it for me. And the one thing I will say is we start comparing these resumes is Penn State, like, That image of them barely scoring a touchdown on the road. And I get it. Ohio State's got as many five stars as anybody. But when you're making an argument to go to the playoff and your loss is when you barely scored a touchdown,

I got to hold that against you. Yeah. You know, I just look at this day and I get it. Like, I'm loving the idea. Like that game I saw Saturday, I love the physicality. I love the defense and the tenacity. And I look at Bama. I look at them as a team.

No one wants to play because. they're more defense warranting. And it's starting to see this, you know, coming across, Michigan, Georgia. They pride themselves on that. So I am really interested in the narrative of these teams because you're going to have their high score. You know, you got your Washington,

you got your Florida states that have great offenses. But I think these defenses are going to be a pain in the neck. And that's why people are kind of shutting them because they don't want to admit it, but they don't want to play them because they know those defenses are real. And we have a return of defense, which is good to see. But going back to Oregon, I wonder if you'd call it.

Utah could do it again. You know, the pig farmer at QB is going to be a great story. But top to bottom, I believe Oregon has the advantage on both sides. And I would, Oregon wins. I'm not sure if I'm ready to give the seven points, though. Once you've killed a pig, you're not worried about an interception. Once you've looked into a pig's eyes. I don't know.

I know Dr. Fax has to, he lets those parlays go. He's just stone cold betting parlays, man. he's just staring him down. He's just doing it because he kills turkeys on Thanksgiving every year. He fucking executes him. And once you've done that, there's no coming back there.

You're not rattled, you know? Somebody to see if Jalen Hurts was a pig farmer at one point. Did you see him the other night? Through a fucking pick to a free runner? No problem. Touchdown. Next drive. Next drive.

Steve, you wear other schools gear on the set of game day. It's a brilliant, um, Gimmick? Whoever came up with this idea deserves a lot of credit.

Can we send you some Virginia gear for this weekend? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, top 10 road wins. James Franklin zero, Tony Elliott won. Okay. Can you get Kyle Whittingham to sign like an 8 by 10 so we can put it in the podcast room

with whatever his mantra is? I could get that done. We're a big fan. Just go back. It's what I've tried to do just to give the smaller guy some love. We're a smaller guy, my friend. No, I'm trying to stay away from the power. I haven't gone Power 5.

You guys are Power 5, and you are going to be a conference rival soon, so I don't know if I can get there. Hey, here's a deal. I got some love for Virginia later in the show. We can use Steve as a vehicle for this, but I think we start collecting autographs. There you go. We just as a podcast asked for people's autographs. Yeah, and everyone wants a selfie. I mean, people are asking me for selfie.

No one asked for the autograph. I'd much rather get an 8 by 10 that I have to write my name on. And Kyle could just inscript it with something a little bit personalized. Do you want me to sign my name or Stanford Steve? Because I don't have a Stanford Steve signature. I would like a ESPN glamour shot of you. Probably with your arms folded over one another sitting at the desk, aside Scott. Okay.

I bet you a million dollars. Do you want like half of Scott's arms so you could just wonder if it's really him? would be great if you have that in the arsenal. I bet you $3 million that Steve has practiced, Stanford Steve. Nobody practices a signature more than Howie Long. I guarantee. Howie Long signature is a work of art. I always get these balls where I have to sign him after Howie Long.

And he writes like, it's gorgeous. And then he's like, HOF, 86 times Pro Bowl, you know, 17 times linemen of the year. You know, like, does he go cursive L? Yes. everything's cursive and it just flowed it's gorgeous Greg Williams you got you have the same problem though

with the cursive see with me with the C the C my last name going to an O and then a U it's impossible that's tough I could work with you on that okay so real quick where do you lean Duke Louisville

because this is a game that guys seem interested in both ranked sick of Duke four points Louisville laying four at home I yeah I think so I worry about what Duke is done now with Riley Leonard. You know, you play him or he forced himself, whatever how it was,

I worry that that set him back because now, you know, if you are, you know, you're not willing to face it, but everybody gets caught up in the moment, right? You're up 2017 in Tallahassee, undefeated Florida State, and then poof, it's gone. Now you come back a day after. I'm not sure how that ankle's going to be, and now you're possibly not going to have them for Louisville,

which you hate to say it when you're in the moment, but that seems like a more winnable game than Tallahassee, you know? So I worry that they mismanaged that. And, you know, Louisville couldn't overcome the sucker spot of all sucker spots with that pit game at Pitt and, you know, get 38 put up on them. But I think that Duke's going into a buzzsaw hair. And you saw Brom really get his guys ready for that moment against Notre Dame.

So I would lean towards Louisville at home minus the points. All right. I'm just, I'm distracting because I'm thinking about Brahms video. I'm trying to remember what he said exactly. Do I have a pulse? Yes, I do.

Is this the XFL? Yes, it is. Let's play football. Fucking guy can do no wrong. Okay. Georgia, Florida, in the city by the sea, as they call it.

Jacksonville, the largest city by the sea. I've never heard that one. I don't call it that. Never. But it is fucking huge, man. You think Miami's big. Jacksonville's the same size, just less people. It's actually awesome.

It's kind of post-apocalyptic, honestly. Okay. Here's my assessment before jumping into the tape of last week's game. Georgia was on a buy. Florida last time we saw them, 37, 21 against Vanderbilt. Okay. Ready. no Brock Bowers

Okay Georgia went to Auburn Auburn was in that game Had to lead second half blew it Now Florida is getting 14 and a half points I think Florida is a better team than Auburn

I'd say take Florida plus points Wow okay You know I love taking 14 and a half points Yeah I mean The Dome on a Saturday Florida's defense is not great, but we got to see that, you know, because everybody's just going to say, yeah, Florida has a chance because Brock Bowers is not playing.

But when you dive into it, I think Florida's one win away from their season win total, which I thought wasn't going to happen this year. When you go back and look what they had up against, you know, everybody made a big deal, what they looked like against Utah. I said, let me see what they look against Tennessee. They come out. They get that win. So I think Florida is pretty capable.

Georgia obviously doesn't have the defense, but that's not fair to compare them to them, you know, from defenses of the past. So I think Florida is capable enough to cover to 14 and a half. All right, Steve. We haven't talked about this yet, but it takes me about four days for a story like this to get me to actually stop and read the clickbait,

but it's Michigan and it's cheating. Yep. And people are fired up about it. And I just wanted to see where guys land. on this, you know, sign stealing thing. Yeah, to the extent it's going, like, you know, everybody now with the, you know, the way you get your ticket, you have a name and, you know, all the information,

and then boom, 11 Big Ten schools have this guy's name purchasing a ticket and sitting at the 50-yard line. Now, where... Game time app. Yeah. Yeah. Free plug. Free plug. Do you want to sponsor?

Yeah, this guy. Ad man. Send them. Send them. I look at this, you know, sign stealing. And obviously the NFL has, you know, coaches are going to go to any length to gain what they call a competitive advantage. And what is a competitive advantage compared to cheating? Because you have their signs, I still feel like coaches could do things if they are worried about a team.

team have everybody it's been going on forever yes uh and i go back to you know all the science dealers that were at clemson um in that sugar bowl against ohio state the year after the chase young uh just in fields game and fields comes back and what does ryan do ryan day do huddles yeah no signs and there are ways to get around it uh is it going to stop it no is the only way to get rid of it to go to the NFL comms with the green dots? Probably, yeah. And I don't, I think this is a step in for that direction. I think everybody would be more on the same page with that.

But when you factor in what they were doing, who they are, who their head coach is, what's his past been, it's just this perfect storm for everyone that hates Michigan to just absolutely want them banished from college football. football and I don't think that's going to happen. I think, you know, the Big Ten's taking steps to, you know, take care of this. Is it going to have any effect on this year? I don't think so. I don't, I don't, sometimes I'll see a story and I'll be like, am I supposed to be upset?

Mm. You know, is this supposed to piss me off? Because some people seem pissed off about this story. Fuck, if a fan can do it. Yeah. You know, I mean, I, you, APB out on every. Everybody signs and email them to the fucking athletic department. What are you going to turn that information away?

No. You don't get better at hiding the signs. I don't see the big deal here. What about the people seated next to my guy, stallions? Like, hey, pal, why are you setting up a tripod? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like, you just really want to remember this one, huh?

The Bushnells out. I don't get it. I don't get, like, if people are really upset about this, I just don't, I mean, I don't know. I don't get it. We can do it. We can do it on the field. Isn't that why we have the dummies on the sideline? Like, hey, this quarter is going to be orange hat instead of yellow.

I think it's fun. You know, if you're a coach, okay, I got to make more codes. That's cool. Code making. More posters. You know? Yeah, posters. Yeah, everybody's blocking the signs these days.

Yeah, I think it's no big deal. Anyways, do you have a best pack 12 lock? We're going to ride it. Keep going against Stanford. Take UW off of bad, bad performance against Arizona State. UCLA just gave Stanford a business. and we will take Washington minus the big number. Do they ever write you a letter, Stanford?

No one. No one pays attention. To be like, could you be more positive about us? Because I, you know, sometimes when Virginia is not great and we just beat UNC, so top 10 team on the road. Top of the world. I can remember when we weren't good, it was hard for me to talk about them. All right, so upset special. Cal over USC.

Wow. Wow. Okay. Cal's capable. I love Wilcox as a coach. And I just wonder about SC, man. I really, like that defense. Hey, Steve. Really didn't have any. What?

I said this to Chris. I texted Chris. He didn't respond. I said, I like it with my quarterback after the game. He walks to midfield, shakes the hand of the other quarterback. Caleb Williams, everybody's favorite quarterback, just sat on the sideline, sat on the bench, and pouted. He was dejected. He was dejected. I'm with you, Steve. I'm with you. Now, they're punting. Now, if you want to talk about Caleb Williams, I think there's some, uh, some, there's some meat on the bone on this topic of would you leave school, you know,

because Acho said it. Now that, if he can take it for what it's worth, Ocho said it. And, uh, he said that, you know, if Caleb Williams isn't going to win the Heisman or a national championship, what, what else is there to do? I know that we're in an age, a day in an age when like this is kind of it's progressive you know you're pro labor you're pro all that stuff and these guys are workers right but um you know like i i have a hard time imagining leaving school because you didn't win the highs you're not going to win the highsman or win a national championship i don't know if you had any opinion on that because at some point somebody's going to do that because there's enough people that are going to say hey no big deal also nil money if you

leave school, do you cash in on the, you know? Well, that's a whole other conversation because the way people, I've almost come across of taking us at a 50% clip of what a player says he's getting. You know, like these numbers are just getting outlandish, what you hear. To me, with the Caleb sitting out thing, Chris, like look at, like he lit, like, Addison last night, you know, the other night. for the Vikings. You know, Pitt, he's a Maryland kid. He was at Pitt. Caleb's obviously from here. There's a connection, you know, was he recruiting? I don't know. Did he help him get

some money and come to USC? Like all this stuff that he was out there trying to help the roster and like these guys need you for their opportunity too. Yeah. And you're just going to let down that. That's, hey, Steve, that's kind of ingenious there because I just, This war will be waged online. People will debate this like it's politics. Yeah. And I just, when you, like when he said, oh, he might not go to the NFL because he's going to make more money in SC, I said, why is you going to come back to go eight and four again? Yeah.

Yeah. So now it's turned to, I'll just, I'll just, you know, I love how everybody says sit out too. You're quitting. Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah. I don't believe Caleb has that. I don't.

I don't think so either. No, I don't think so. of a competitor. He's got too much at stake. I mean, what is it, Dr. Pepper, Heisman House, Wendy's. I mean, that's a rough look. That's a big leap. I get the bowl game thing for some guys.

I do. Yeah, and he played last year in a bowl game when people said he wasn't. And he got hurt in a Pac-12 title game. Like, that's the stuff I think about the kid that he didn't have to play in that last year. And he did. So when it on the field, some of the antics, yeah, everybody's going to, I mean, they kept that camera on him, too. We're going to keep this camera on until he moves, and he didn't move.

And to be shell-shocked like that, I get it. And I think it's one of the toughest things. Kyle Reda-Dine had a Congress. God, this is over 12, 13 years ago, where, and I've just, I've always gone back to this. And he talked about judging people after a loss, is it fair? And you get every, no matter what level, NFL, hockey, women's tennis. college football, high school football, coaches, players, parents. Like, is that fair to do?

And I was always brought up in, no matter what, you go shake the opponent's hand. That's the way my dad, my family brought me up, and I never sat there. As much as it sucks, you always have the locker room to go back to it and be with your guys. But that's a tough look. And like, it's getting a little crazy, but I still, I go back to, you know, this whole sitting out thing. And I think back, he could have sat out last year and he played, and he was hurt really bad in that Pack 12 title game with the hamstring and played in the Cotton Bowl against Tulane. So I'm rooting for it because the sport's better with him playing in it. So that's what I got there.

Yeah, I think he was just sitting there thinking like, all right, Cardinals. who did they play this weekend Panthers have a quarterback you know that sort of thing he was thinking about the four teams he wanted on his YouTube split screen yeah exactly that's it

all right STL Memorial Lock that's a non-power 5 lock if anybody wants to play a little guy I want to bring up Damia Virginia what

Jacksonville State minus 8 all right over Florida Internet Okay, sickos eat up. And then the awards. Let's start with the Chang Award. And I was prompted on YouTube because I do read the comments at this time. We're not like some huge machine where I can't read them.

But people want to know sometimes when we give these awards a little reminder, a little primer, including the moments on Monday, what these mean. Chang Award. What the fuck does it mean? Couldn't tell you. I think it's a quarterback at a school. It's my award to a small school kid. Yep, exactly.

It's a quarterback, though. No. See, this is the problem, but this is illuminating. Okay. My. You're right. It's your award, Steve. Ability to change.

Small school guy. Timmy chain award. We're going to go wide receiver from Penn. Chris, Penn nickname. Quakers? There you go. Wide receiver, Jared Richardson. Big win over Yale.

17 catches, 191 yards. Tuddy. Wow. He is from Blake's Lee, PA. I'm not familiar with that place. Shout out Jared Richardson. Big win for the Quakers over to Eli's. And Cawkeland Award, come on.

We touched on it. Upset of the season. Mike Hollins running back. Three touchdowns for Wahoo Wah. Native of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. They rushed for like 240 yards against Carolina. You guys are running school now? Just punishing.

all those UNC alums were just. We kind of do it all, Steve. There's a cat named Malik Washington, who may be the best player in college football. The numbers are pretty eye-opening. It goes like Herman Moore and Malik Washington, Dillie McMilley. Wow. Guys good.

Guys good. I like Sean Moore. But you guys had four guys, a double-digit carries. 228 yards, 54 carries. I love that. Oh, musket slinging it around. Game day is the perfect. pizza day. So make Little Caesars the official pizza sponsor the NFL part of your game day.

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Like, uh, because I had a bad week. Hey. Let's forget last week and let's get to this week for the locks. No, I'm sadistic. I'm sadistic. Okay, bucks minus two. I don't know, but I don't know.

I think I was on the right side. I still think I was on the right side there. I don't think so. Gommies. you could tell I was on the wrong side of that from the beginning the under in Baltimore Detroit was one of the most fun rides of my life because I actually gave it out at 42 but then later in the week I get it at 44

so I bet it at 44 and early in this game it just becomes like you're not going to win the bet let's just somehow get out here with a push and some of the action late in that game we had multiple guys on the under we were hooting and hollering and that's also what this league's about. Steve said earlier, you know,

it's anybody can win any week. It's also anything can happen with these totals, man, landed right on 44. Okay, making one. Were you praying for a miss by Tucker at the end? Oh, absolutely. I only get too greedy. That's a helpless feeling.

Yeah. That is a helpless feeling. Yeah, because that's not going to happen. Just did a little math. Collectively, we're two games under 500. That's like a roulette. It's better than a roulette wheel. Okay.

I take that. My game day picks. So we're just fine. We're just fine. We just fine. We just need to find a couple wins. Steve. Unflappable. You are up first, my friend, at 9 and 12 on the season.

Seahawks, minus three at home. That's, I like that, man. Because I think a lot of people are going to be on Cleveland. Cleveland's in town. Yep. Okay. Okay. You know, we're doing this on a Tuesday.

No problem. Okay. The Los Angeles Rams in Dallas. Okay. Getting six and a half. That's too many points. Okay. All right, I'll take the Houston Texans in Carolina.

You know, I feel like I'm probably with the public here, but no matter. Okay. I'm not crazy about it. How many times have the Texans been a favorite on the road? get used to it. Yeah. A new era. Hey, hey, who's your coach of the year, Steve?

You know, I've been thinking about this because to me, the conversation or not the conversation, thoughts I had in my head for a worst team in the NFL before the season were going to be the Rams or the Buccaneers. And I am totally wrong. So I will go Todd Bulls. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yep. Okay. When you said Sean McVay, I was like, okay, we can talk about this because they fool me this year. They should give out a worst coach of the year.

Todd Bowles, Tampa Bay. No, I'm not saying that. Should be Andy Reed. I think Shane, if Shane Spikeman continues this run, like, If he wins games with Minshu, if they're in the conversation at the end, and Domeko is my other name, obviously. I mean, I just gave out the Texans. But I'm thinking about like big brain stuff here. Yep. It's funny, there was a Jim Ursay video this week where he landed a helicopter and hopped on his four-wheeler that was amphibious.

And he narrates the whole video. He said, I just landed this helicopter with my own two hands. And now I'm hopping in my amphibious four-wheeler, and I'm going to the pond. And I'm like, thanks. you know, but that's the same guy that hired Spikeman. We were, he might be comeback player of the year. He's got fucking different modes of transportation. He's hiring the biggest brain in the room.

I think fucking Jim Ursae might be the comeback player of the year. I need more Urse. Who needs, no one needs less Ursa. We hear from Jerry Jones after every game. Give me Ursay after every game. Give me an Ursay live stream after every game. Yeah. Oh, Lord. A live stream.

Wow. You can just half time. Hey guys, I'm going to play the guitar. Come on, come to my sweet. I love, I love, I can't look away. He's the man. No. Okay.

Steve's second lock. Who's Chris, who, Chris take? Houston Texans. Oh, that's right. All right. And what we talked about for a ton today, forgetting what a team looked like the week before. You're doing it.

Give me the Packers at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's dirty. but you got to do it. It's dirty work. This is my last stand with the Packers. I keep saying that about a few times. Don't let me take them. Golly day. The Saints are on my no-fly zone.

The fucking, the bills were for like two days until I looked at Thursday night. And I feel like, you know, but I might bet the box, actually. Eight and a half. A lot of points.

Speaking of eight and a half. Oh, I'm afraid. No. The Detroit Lions on Monday night. What would you think you're going to do Ravens at the Cardinals or something? No. There's Bears Chargers in there, too. Still out there.

Nope. Detroit Lions laying eight and a half against the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm going to be at that game. I can't not wait. Detroit, Monday night football, and their opponent is the Raiders, the night before Halloween. Can you imagine what that scene's going to be? Max Crosby. be.

Can't wait. It's going to be 27 to 10. Speaking of owners, we got to see more of. Mark. Oh, my God, dude. That guy's electric. Go Mark. Oh, my God.

That dance, dude. That dance. That dance, dude. Oh, bottle that up. That's world peace right there is what that is. Yeah. Okay. Anyways.

Hey, Steve. I like the under in Dallas. I like the, That's a good sign. Or I don't know. I do. I like it when I'm on the team catching the points. Steve, those, and don't take any offense.

That Seahawks, Seahawks and Packers' picks, those are good picks. Thanks. I like those picks. I got another one. Not that I dislike your picks. I'm the clubhouse leader. I'll take offense. Making you're not afraid.

I just take unders. I'm not afraid. Chris is not afraid. No fear. Because I'm with you guys. I am not afraid. Give me Denver at home plus eight. Wow.

Okay. All right. I don't have a reason. Well, you don't need one. It's for read. This is the guesses. Love you, Steve. Hey.

Thank you, Cowboy. I'm not afraid of these big lines. We're zagging from the week prior. Miami Dolphins at home. Minus nine and a half. It's the New England Patriots. Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins.

going two and one this week right there. All right. I'm feeling through that. Don't you feel like the dolphins are probably public, even with all those points? They've been covering big spreads. The worst thing that happened to the dolphins, they scored 70.

Okay, yeah, well, the best thing is in Vegas. Okay. You know what line kind of, you just take a look, take a hard look at Pittsburgh. Take a hard look at Pittsburgh. Yeah. Take a hard look at Pittsburgh, boys.

But I just love unders. I can't quit it. I'm going to go Atlanta and Tennessee under. Yes, that's what I was looking at. It's a big 10 number. I'm not scared. Love us. I'll take the step.

Don't be scared. Like fucking the Indiana Jones movie where he's got to walk across and it's invisible. That's how I feel right now. I'm doing it. The chalice is on the other side. I love it. I fear that I may be Joe Public on Tuesdays. I think it takes me until the end of the week.

To morph into sharp. Yeah. Bacon? Yeah. Okay. You got to start making your calls on Monday now, making it for the next week. Okay, guys.

So we gave them out one more time for the people that are tallying them. I gave out the Texans Land 3, Dallas under 45 and a half. Now, I'm going to want to buy the Texans, I believe, right? Guys, you guys have never steered me wrong on this. Okay. This is where I struggle to do basic math and things like that. but I got Dallas and the Rams under 45 and a half, Falcons under 36 and a half.

Although, man, it'd be nice to get 37, get that push. Making gave out the Rams catching six and a half, the lions laying eight and a half, and the dolphins at home. Him and the rest of America, dolphins, nine and a half. Steve, Seahawks, laying a field goal Packers, catching a point in Denver, catching eight points at home.

Yeah. Yep. Steve, take those Seahawks down to two. and a half, huh? That's what I'm thinking. Great minds think of like, making. That's right. And go ahead and give me those Rams at seven. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Bring that back. There's no I and team, but there is one in Indeed, and that's the hiring platform you need to build yours. When you're hiring, you need Indeed. Indeed is the hiring platform where you can attract, interview, and hire all in

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Claim your $75 credit now at Indeed.com slash bluewire sports. Just go to Indeed.com slash bluewire sports and support the show by saying you heard about it on this podcast. please indeed.com slash bluewire sports terms and conditions apply need to hire you need indeed let's talk about trades because we talked about the niners earlier and like you know inevitably in any of these situations and disclaimer to people it's the trade deadline next week we got to talk about it it's interesting there are more trades every year we talk about this all the time in the NFL um it's not quite NBA level but it's fun and you know, when you look at the bills or you look at the Niners

or a few of these teams that have been struggling, some of the answers, like don't take into account scheme change and that sort of thing or adjustments or players just playing bad. We want to fix it right now with more players. And so let's have fun with it. Let's talk about a couple of these teams. First team that actually just took care of business

was the Eagles, and you knew how we would do it. And if I'm the Titans, I don't, like, block that caller. Yeah, seriously. Not that I think Byard's going to pan out the way that A.J. Brown did. I mean, that goes down as like a, you just gave them away. But this is a big need for the Eagles. I don't know if they're done making moves, but this is a move that really works out. And I think his life just got a little bit easier.

When we had Jeff Fisher on the other day, he said, you know, in Tennessee right now, he's doing a lot of coordinating younger players, getting people on the same page. Like he's asked to do a lot. You know, the Eagles could really use him back there. And this doesn't solve the problem of who's going to cover the slot necessarily. No, it doesn't. But you desperately need to help. I'm glad they went out and got it.

And he wasn't on my bingo card. We threw around a couple people who were like bona fide slot guys. But this guy's a great player. So excited about Byard and wondering what some of these other teams, what they might do. A question about the Eagles. Yeah. I've been thinking about it. Obviously, I don't think Jaylen's 100%.

No, I don't think he's 100%. And I wonder about that, knowing, I mean, you talk about a mindset. We talked about Caleb Williams earlier than the show. When I think about a professional athlete, give me Jamie Jalen Hertz and the way he handles things over anybody. But with that, he's pretty stubborn. He's not going to let you in. He's not going to, you know, be, I think, forthcoming with the injury. and on top of that, you have Sariani, who is just balls to the wall every second.

I wonder how that relationship manifests over, like, if he needs a break, is he going to get it? I just think about what's asked of him, and I just worry that it's going to be too much, and they could jeopardize something. I just, something I've been thinking about. Well, it's interesting because they've kind of gone away from the design run stuff, right? There's none. Yeah, I mean. So for on third and fourth and one.

Yeah, on third and five the other night at times, or third and nine in the red zone. Yeah. But like they obviously are aware of it, and I feel like it's happening in Buffalo, too. Mm-hmm. You know, you don't see as many Josh Allen, like, go win it with your legs play calls. I think he's going to be fine. But like if you're talking about if you're saying how long a season is, right? It's a long time.

And when you look at every week now, there's not a week where, like, if he's really dinged, you feel great about Marriota. Yeah. And that's a pretty good backup to have. But, like, you got the commanders this week. They've given you trouble on the road. Yeah. If I had to give one out, I probably give out the team.

I played really well. Yeah, it did. I give the commanders out and buy a half point, not saying the Eagles are going to lose, but that's a tough spot. Yep. The Cowboys, the Chiefs, the Bills, the Niners, the Cowboys, the Seahaw. Geez, Louise. And then there's three weeks at the end of the season

that if you can get through this gauntlet and this guy's hurting, he'd give him some time depending on where you are sitting in the NFC. You stopped at the Giants? No offense. Untaken. But that's a team they've never had trouble with lately under this regime in the NFC East,

unless I forgot a game. I mean, Washington has been a team that gives you problems. So to answer your question, Steve, sometimes it's going to be a bitch. They're deep in the season now. I think you can get him healthy some weeks by de-emphasizing some of that stuff. You saw like Joe Burrow was rehabbing while he was playing.

Now, I'm not a big proponent of that, but he stopped moving, literally, for a month. And then one day he just fucking bought time in the red zone in Phoenix or Glendale. There also could be some confusion in the building because it's like, hey, Jalen, how are you? He says, I'm hurts. Mm-hmm.

That's good. What's the timestamp on this? Took him a while to do it. It's very funny, though. That's funny, yeah. Thanks. Sometimes the funniest ones don't elicit any laughter. Yeah, that's true.

I know how that is. I know how that is. We can compare the two. So I think the Jags are interesting because nobody talks about them. They're as good as anybody in the league when it comes to the position they're in, like in the AFC with their record and everything.

They don't have the tie break against the chief. but this is a team that could host a fucking playoff game win this division and go on a run and i think you need pass rush and i think Doug peterson knows that i think Doug saw what you know like having a deep group in philly walker has been okay he just is not like an elite rusher and i think we saw that coming but i i don't think we saw it to this degree where it's like you got josh allen on one side you're leaving a lot of money on the table not having somebody on the other side and and Gakway would be a guy that you could rotate in,

pick your spots on first and second down. There's a reunion. I lament to that thing. I think the Jags should go make a move for a rusher. I love that call. Anything to help my preseason Super Bowl pick. One more. Seattle Seahawks with Nuwoso.

I don't know if I mentioned this, but I think Hunter, Denial Hunter, like right now, how much could you get for him? I mean, how much could you get for him if you were in Minnesota? He's quietly leading the league in sacks, basically. Yes. Like nobody talks about him.

One year he's going to break the record, and everybody's going to be like, what the fuck? But not applicable now, right? Because you see three and four and you think you're playing for... Yeah, that's the hard part. It's like we said this a million times. You talk about Mike Evans. Like, if I was Detroit, I'd send the house down to Tampa for Mike Evans, like a big body guy that can help Jared golf a little bit.

But like, Mike Evans, probably not on the block, so to speak. because all of a sudden, well, they're trending the wrong way. Your Mike, what do you do with your house? Like, it's a weird time. It was Sequin. Sequin said it in the last week. Oh, the Ravens. Sequin was saying, I don't want to be traded.

And then in the same breath, he said, you have to move. Yeah, exactly. That part sucks. It was like, yeah, that's a bummer. It wasn't my teammates. It wasn't we're turning this around. It's like you got to actually physically move. That part sucks.

And speaking of Sequin, we talked about the Ravens. The Ravens looked as good. as anybody on Sunday. But I guess the thing is, at some point, a running back goes down, how thin are you there? You know, and if you have aspirations, like you want to win the Super Bowl,

the run game cannot, cannot exit the game plan. Like, that is a strength you can lean on. I don't know, man. Derek Henry, Jacobs, Barkley, you know, Cook. I just don't see those teams getting rid of those names. Yeah, I don't know. But Tennessee not getting rid of Derek Henry

at some point and getting something for him. It's like... Times right. Yeah. And if you love the guy, set him free. Because he's basically, I mean, next year or the year after, next year, you're not going to be able to get anything for him. At some point, he's going to wear out.

If things keep going bad for the Chargers, maybe Echler could be on the block. They'll lose him after this season anyway. I would like him in Baltimore. That'd be awesome. That'd be awesome, wouldn't it? Like, if they fire Brandon Staley, it's a full rebuild. I mean, I might not even wait. Because it's next week.

So I don't know. When does Brandon Staley get the ax if he does? If they haven't done it already, it's kind of... If he lives to the Bears Sunday night. We keep saying this. And here's how that game will play out then. Basically, they're going to go for it and get stuffed on fourth down late in the game. And then Bayesian's going to, like, check to a run, like Tyrod Taylor.

And they're going to win the game. And then they're not going to fire him. So anyways. You never see kickers get traded. for each other. No. No, no, no. But you know what's funny?

Speaking of kickers, and we just brought up the Bears game, they need to make this a thing. Did you see, I don't know if there's the Bears were kicking off, and I don't know if the guy fucked it up, but he kicked it right into the guy

in the front line's face. And it is a wildly effective way to do an outside kick. Yeah. If you can pull that off, if you can get a guy to kick a line drive at the front line there,

about waist high, head high, would be even better. The worst case is a squip kick. Exactly, dude. just a little nugget for John Fossil, Bonesy, wherever you are. All right, that's the end of the show. Steve, thank you so much for the time, buddy.

Enjoy Salt Lake City. Hey, you guys have fun up in the clouds and join that win over Chapel Hill, okay? Love you, Steve. We love you. Thank you, Steve. Love you guys. Shout out to the brain.