Green Light with Chris Long - Stanford Steve & James Koh! Michigan at MSU & Georgia's Dominance. NFL Week 8 Fantasy Football Insights. Candy Corn Milkshake.

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

(3:18) - Hello, Layup Line and Breaking News: Macon is Feeling Under the Weather. (10:36) - Stanford Steve on College Football Week 9, Michigan at Michigan State, Penn State at Ohio State, Georgia's D...ominance, CFB Playoff Predictions and NFL Week 8 Betting Picks. (56:53) - Chris and Cowboy Reid Make a Halloween Milkshake, Power Rank Halloween Candy and Green Light Listener Kai Stops by Studio J for a Special Mailbag. (1:17:24) - James Koh on NFL Week 8 Fantasy Football Outlook: Sit or Start with Khalil Herbert and D'Ernest Johnson, What To Do If Your Fantasy Team Has an Abundance of Tight End Talent and Tyler Lockett Trending Downwards? Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Tennessee, y'all 2, 1-8009-9-9. Macon's out with the sniffles. He's fine, no COVID. He got tested. But he's got to still do Thursday night time machine. I don't care if he's up 6 to 1 or whatever it is. He still needs to give his pick. and I'm still not out of this thing.
Starting point is 00:01:27 So I'll go Arizona, 31, Packers, 20. So I went on a limb there. I need a big Cardinals win, or do I not need a big Cardinals win? Did Macon take the Cardinals buy more? Thanks for the question, Chris. I'd be delighted to participate in this exercise, despite feeling, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:01:50 under the weather, which is just a fancy term for feeling unwell. Rogers loves to be doubted, doesn't he, buddy? Loves to be doubted. But I don't think they get it done tonight. I think the cards expose that defense a little bit. Arizona, 31, Green Bay Packers, 23. Take care. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Normally he is, you have the smaller margin? Yeah. And he's, that's where he's taking advantage. and now you have the larger margin. I know, so I can root for the Cardinals, but it really has to be a blowout. Like, it needs to be 10 points or more. 10 or more for me,
Starting point is 00:02:35 nine or less for Macon. Right. Steven Square, Minneapolis. I don't know where in Minneapolis it is, but we've got a buddy with us, Kai, who listens to the show, a fairly regular amount of times because when we do mailbag,
Starting point is 00:03:33 Kai is on it. Some days, the rest of you motherfuckers are mailing it. and Kai's out there working he's earning his check man okay he shoots us five to seven of the greatest mailbag questions he's been a whole segment before we made up names at times and I was like this is from Jason it's from Kai okay so Kai was driving through Charlottesville he came to visit us he came bearing gifts but he's pissed off because Macon's not here making's playing sick he's doing you know Macon's favorite movie is Ferris Bueller he's having a day off Yeah, a little day off.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Real fucking cute. It's cold. It gets cold and windy. Here's my theory. This is when he takes paid time off of a redacted realty because he doesn't like to sell real estate when it's windy and cold. Like it's really windy right now, and that fucks his hair up. And you know what he's like when his hair gets fucked up.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So I think he's taking that PTO time to take a really like a full day off. He was Cameron for Halloween two years ago. Exactly, dude. the same thing, but just all day, all week, all week he's being Cameron. I don't like the bit. He's taken a little too far. And he doesn't listen, so he has no idea we're on to him. Hey man, thanks for checking in.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Well, I'm under the weather, quote unquote, under the weather, which is just a fancy way of saying, I'm not feeling myself. So that's not so hot. My machine also broke for good. Friday night, that 2012 MacBook Pro you've commented on its weight from time to time, it died and it's not coming back, which is a bummer. So, yeah, that thing saw me through several moves, got married, got Zoe Rabbit, had a baby girl.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That computer's been with me through a lot, and part of me is missing today, Chris. And again, I got a, I got ill. COVID negative, it bears mentioning, I think. But I'm ill. Saw the who's beat the jackets under the lights. Hues are six and two. No big deal. Is that where I picked up this disease?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Who can be sure? And, well, this week has been a lot of nothing, kind of doing the day job from home, you know, on a backup machine. I thought you guys would run off to Vegas. I would be able to breathe easy a little bit. But no, I've had to be putting out fires. That's okay. You know, heavy is the burden that is worn by those who can carry heavy burdens,
Starting point is 00:06:21 is what I say. And we'll be just fine. And we'll be back there in Studio J at no time. so you take care and say hey to everybody for me and I'll talk to you soon man bye he sounds like an overweight man who lives in Raleigh North Carolina he sounds like a tall slender man plugging his nose I mean he just he cannot yeah that's like oh making it dramatic you're saying he's playing sick nobody's actually seen him no one's seen I was texting him earlier offered to bring him some soup he said no I'm set I'm gonna catch him out and about dude I live
Starting point is 00:06:58 right up the road. Walk your dog through his yard. That's what the fuck I'm going to do. Good call. That's what I'm going to do. Kai's in the building, so thank you, Kai, for coming by. And thank you for the gear. Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That's the home of the Minnesota Vikings, and I wish all the bad things on the Minnesota Vikings. We're looking at three wins right now. I need them to stop at eight. Okay, my family needs them to stop at eight. So whatever the opposite of lighting prayer candles is, I want to do that for the Minnesota Vikings. No offense, Kai.
Starting point is 00:07:33 What worse could we do to the Minnesota Vikings than 2017? Kai's like, if this motherfucker, I'm taking back all the gifts that I brought to the studio today. I'm getting up and I'm leaving. No, we appreciate Kai being here. Also, I got a layup line because my morning jacket came out with the new album, and it's a self-titled album. And it's pretty damn good, man. And there's a couple bangers on there.
Starting point is 00:07:57 People have been asking me, what are my favorite songs on this album? I'd say never in the real world, especially the back half of that thing, in color, least expected. And I never could get enough. I like those four a lot. I'll go never in the real world. Check out the new album. All right. Today I've got Stanford Steve.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I've got James Co. It's almost Halloween. So Cowboy Reed is actually going to be in the chair today for our bridge. and we're going to talk about candy corn because we've talked at length about how much I like it in the past and I actually I like it so much that I save all the consumption for this week and then I just fucking overdose on that stuff. I love it. You people that think candy corn sucks are just looking for attention, like completely looking for attention.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It's become a bit. It's an internet fad. Candy corn's good. You ate it as kids. Stop fucking posing. like you're too cool for candy corn. I'm going to make a candy corn smoothie today. Okay?
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm going to drink the whole thing. It's going to have like a half a bag of candy corn in it. And then I'm going to get diabetes. But it's going to taste good. And you guys are wrong. And we'll talk about that in the bridge. What else, Reid? We got anything else today?
Starting point is 00:09:26 We go in depth on some college football with Stanford Steve. Yep, Stanford Steve. Big time, Jordan Davis, Georgia. Yep. Have some fun. Yep. We're going to talk about that big D tackle who's on a billboard down there in Georgia. We're going to talk about the Vikings a little bit for our friends in Minneapolis too later on.
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Starting point is 00:10:37 just stand for Steve and me my better half is at home right now with the sniffles Steve so it's just you and me buddy I think he's rested up for that late Virginia kick Saturday night let's be honest
Starting point is 00:10:52 he might be that's a really good call but he really put he laid it on heavy on the phone it was like he I think he like plugged his notes to talk to me he was like I'm willing to come in tomorrow and I was like don't want the sniffles for Halloween because I had my co-host in.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, rest up for the showdown in Provo. By the way, do you like the who's in that spot? Man, see, my question's off the field, Chris, do you think Bronco Mendenhall is going to get treated better than when Lane Kiff went back to Tennessee a couple weeks ago? I think he's going to treat it a lot better because in Tennessee, they're allowed to drink alcohol. You know, maybe if...
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, bring golf balls into the game. Yeah, but like, that's all beer muscles throwing like an object on the field. think anybody sober has ever thrown an object on the field. And I think when you look at the stadium there in Provo, I think the sobriety rate is near 100. So you don't take anything that's thrown on the field in Buffalo
Starting point is 00:11:47 at the Bills games? That's those are sober people? I think that's all drunk people. A lot of it is the remnants of what they were drinking. But I mean, in all seriousness, I haven't even looked at the line because I'm focused on the win and the loss. Two and a half. Two and a half. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Stinky. Real stinky. I'm saying I'm saying the who's get that win. Hey, you got that kid taking the snaps, man. Armstrong's been incredible. He has been incredible. I'm glad people are coming around on him. Hey, Georgia, Sinci, Bam, OU, that's our top four right now. November 2nd, the big boy rankings come out.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Tuesday night. Holding their breaths. You tweeted this yesterday. You said if Georgia... I said big if, not to get Georgia fans because we've been going at it, couple years. I said big if. Yeah, big if question here. Dot, dot, dot. You got to build the suspense.
Starting point is 00:12:43 If Georgia loses this week, who will AP rank number one on Sunday? So Stanford, Steve, who is it? If Oklahoma covers, they're playing Texas Tech who just fired their coach. They're giving 20. They're at home. I think they're going to roll. I think it's going to be Oklahoma. I don't see them making Cincinnati, number one, even though in every other year she feels possible. if whoever's number two and undefeated when number one loses, you make number two
Starting point is 00:13:08 number one. But you also have Michigan and Michigan State playing each other, top 10 matchup. And I mean, you could make the case for one of them. Michigan State's got a pretty good resume. They both have plenty of work to do in their own division.
Starting point is 00:13:24 But I would say, I could see them because Cincinnati's given 24 again this week. They didn't cover last week given 28 and Oklahoma was given double digits. maybe, you know, recency bias, who's number one? I put in their AP because we know the power rankings are going to have certain teams for Tuesday night and in the playoff rankings different. But I just thought it was funny with the AP because nobody pays attention to the AP.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Not a soul. Not anybody. So I was just trying to have some fun also. Well, I mean, this is going to be fun because I don't know what the hell happens here down the stretch. I mean, you mentioned CINC and not covering big lines. they played two lane this weekend. How could they win out and miss the playoffs? If Alabama beats Georgia.
Starting point is 00:14:11 If Alabama wins out, Georgia wins out, and Bama beats them, they're going to take two Cs. They're going to have to. So that's the thing I think we're all trying to avoid here is Bama beating Georgia in the SEC championship because I just, I want to see some new faces. You know, and right now, dude, I know you're not a uniform snob.
Starting point is 00:14:32 but Georgia Sinci Bama oh you. The biggest red flag for me is it's an all red playoff. I do not want to look at an all red playoff, especially with some indoor games. Like, fuck that. So we need some fresh blood in there. I don't care if this thing gets shaken up or what. Well, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Tuesday night, as long as Oregon wins, they're playing Colorado who's terrible. They should be ahead of Ohio State. Yeah. They both have one loss. They beat them in Columbus. People talking about strength of schedule, all that. Oregon has the time.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Ohio State coming into this game against Penn State. They played Tulsa. They played Akron, Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana. Those are the five wins where they've gotten their offense right. That doesn't do anything for me. Now, listen, I've said Ohio State as the best wide receiver group, I think, in the sport. you know obviously Alabama has theirs but I think this team
Starting point is 00:15:31 has more potential at the wide receiver position because they have younger guys who I think can be better they're there I mean Ryan Day is my favorite play caller in the sport they have all the goods but they shouldn't be ranked ahead of Oregon they lost them and if we're not going to take that into account then why are we even playing out of conference games it's a joke so that's what I'm interested in
Starting point is 00:15:51 is Oregon being ahead of Ohio State when those rankings come out Tuesday as long as both teams take care of business obviously Saturday. Yeah, and going back to Oklahoma, like me and Cowboy were talking about this, the 2014 Florida State team, they won like seven one-score ball games. It feels a little bit like, you know, there might be some commonalities, and that team got trounce by Oregon, who we were just talking about. So do you worry about OU playing a lot of teams close? Do you think you're not concerned about it? I don't put them in that Florida State League, because if Oakland,
Starting point is 00:16:27 Oklahoma wins out, they're going to have enough sustainable wins. They're going to have wins against Iowa State. Obviously, they already beat Texas. And I think the Big 12 then is no offense stronger this year than the ACC was when James ran through it with that. I mean, Jamie, go back and look at those scores and those games. What he didn't, I mean, they were down double digits, I want to say, in five of them. Yeah. And he came roaring back, you know, with James, whatever people said, James being,
Starting point is 00:16:57 and James. So I think Oklahoma is a better football team than that Florida State team that made the playoff that year. Okay, so you were talking about Penn State. You're like Penn State, Ohio State, Penn State struggles, Ohio State, you know, maybe overvalued a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm looking at James Franklin, who on Tuesday said he was getting ready for Illinois, and maybe he misspoke. Did he mean USC? What, how does that happen? Is nine overtimes that draining? I mean, it was draining to watch. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I will say from what he said was saying getting ready for Illinois and then headed to the big house, it looks like he thought they were playing Illinois in Ann Arbor this week. Yes. So I don't know. James, he's a smart dude. I don't think he would do that stuff on purpose. You know, he's a buttoned up guy.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I don't know how to read that. I think you just move on from it because they have an enormous stage Saturday night in Columbus. Ohio State has had their number. We just talked about the offense where Ohio State has, and that's what worries me about Penn State. They got Clifford back, and they could not generate any offense. Couldn't run the ball for anything.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Gave up over 300 yards rushing, which really worries me. But I think Penn State's defense shows up here, and how long can they hold on with keeping those Ohio State guys in front of them and getting something from their offense to keep it within the 18 and a half. I wrote my article in dot com. Yespan.com I write every week. I gave Penn State and I just said,
Starting point is 00:18:38 sometimes you realize you made the wrong decision as soon as you make it, and this is probably one of them. As soon as the game kicks off and Ohio State goes up 7-0, we probably know we got a loser. But I just look at the 18.5, Penn State's played at Iowa. They played at Wisconsin. They're battle tested. I think they rise up there and keep it closer than in the next.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So I would take Penn State here. I don't feel great about it, as I said, but I think it's just a, you know, opportunity. You know, there's not many opportunities you get like this a prime time to play the best team in your conference. So I think Penn State has the goods to hang around in this game. Well, he's had, James Franklin's had seven such opportunities on the road versus top 10 teams. And my man is 0 for seven. He's two and five against the spread. I might be on the other side, you know, as, you know, James Franklin in this spot. against a high-powered offense, like the one you mentioned. Let's talk about Michigan-Michigan State because this one's fun, and I feel like it snuck up on us. Like, Michigan State got bad for a few years, like laughably bad, where you were like, I can't even watch Michigan State games. I can't bet them. I can't watch him.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Mel Tucker's got him rolling. He's used transfers. I mean, he's just, you get an NFL coach on one sideline on him, and then, of course, you got Harbaugh on the other. Who has done a more impressive job this year? Oh, wow, that's a really good question because I was looking at what the talking points would be after this game. Because you talked about it. Michigan State, Mel Tucker's first game at Michigan State last year.
Starting point is 00:20:10 They lost by Ross to Rutgers at home by double digits. Yeah, that you know, and then to get up off the deck, and if you were to beat Michigan, and all the Michigan talk about having a coach against D'Antonio at Michigan State. And now you start out 0 and 2 against Mel Tucker in East Lansing, like, That's not what Michigan wants at all. And we know they have more work to do with Penn State and Ohio State down the road. I think it's Harbaugh from seeing how bad it was last year. When you go back and look at it, they lost the Michigan State again.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You know, the Ohio State game doesn't get played. He makes a ton of changes to try and help recruiting and get a younger coaching staff to resonate with the kids. And from where they were to see what he's built, that defense is nasty. man, and that's what I'm fired up about with this matchup. They got awesome talent. I think Hutchinson's an All-American, even though that's going to be a tough list of crack at defensive end this year. Yeah, you've got another rusher on the other side in Michigan State, who I haven't
Starting point is 00:21:10 watched play as much. Who do you like better of those two guys? Hutchinson, and who does Hutchinson remind you of? Hutchinson reminds me of Chris Long. Really? I'll say it. Yeah. I say, I don't know if he's as quick as him.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. But he hangs in there. He's pretty versatile. He's got multiple moves. But on the other side, he's white. You're the white guy. I look at Michigan State's got a couple six-year seniors and a seventh-year senior on the offensive line. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So that stuff in the college year senior? Yes. Yes. What? Yes. Yes. That guy's liver is fucked. So I think it's an awesome match.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It's a dead under game for me. Okay. 51 I think I saw the weather too in the 50s, maybe some rain. Both teams do a great job running the football Walker with Michigan State. And then Haskins and Corm with Michigan are two really good backs. So I think how stubborn to play calling is going to be is going to be a liking to me, knowing that I'm going to have the under in this game. Michigan's defense has not faced any kind of team that could throw the ball down the field
Starting point is 00:22:26 like Michigan State has. Michigan State has Reed and Nailer, who both average like 20 yards of catch, but Michigan State hasn't seen the front like Michigan has. So it's a great matchup. I think 24 points wins the game, so that's why I like the under in that game. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:22:43 If I were to tease Michigan State's total and tease the under up to like 57 or something, and I were to tease that with Iowa plus 9.5 or 10, do you like that? I do. I do. I like Iowa in this scenario off a buy week. Obviously, didn't play well again for a second straight week after coming back and beating Penn State and then they caught up to them with Purdue. They don't have their corner, but I don't think that matters against Wisconsin who threw the ball eight times last week in a win at Purdue. So I like Iowa off the by week, knowing that what's at stake, they still have a chance to make Indianapolis and playing that Big Ten title game.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I think they come out with a good effort. say this, Wisconsin, Madison, Camp Randall, it's not the same at noon, or I should say 11 a a a.m. there as it is a night game. I've been there for both. And the way they enter the students into the stadium is a joke. It's like a single file line. Oh, really? Literally, yeah, they literally don't fill it up until the second quarter of the game. So if Iowa could come out hot, I think this is a look-ahead game for the Wisconsin student body because they've got Halloween Sunday night and supposedly they have one of the best Halloween weekend. So I'm thinking is a look-ahead game for the Wisconsin student body and then maybe subsequently the team.
Starting point is 00:23:59 The teaser is in. It's Iowa and it's the under. The tease God has spoken. The tease God has spoken. And tell Scott I just teased the college football total. I will give a fuck. Hey, you made history.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Scott listened to a podcast and it was yours. Oh, God. Oh, was it? Yeah, with Merrow. It was with Merrill. He liked that one. He told me. That was good.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah, Mero was awesome. If anybody's listening, go back and listen to the Mero thing. after you finish this one. But yeah, so as you move down the line, like we got a big Big Ten matchup. You've got Penn State, Ohio State as well. And then you've got Georgia, Florida, to wrap it up when it comes to the playoff talk.
Starting point is 00:24:41 They're given 14 and a half. They've never given that many points playing Florida. You've got a really good run defense. You've got a really good rush offense. And I'm kind of wondering what the hell gives here. I mean, is it suckerish to bet Florida? I think so. Because everybody's going to talk about Dan Mullen, right, in his offensive mind
Starting point is 00:25:04 and what he's going to do with two quarterbacks, who's he's going to play, scored 29 against Alabama's defense. But we've seen Alabama's defense is not Georgia's defense. So I look on the other side. I look at George's offense. I look at their offensive coordinator, Todd Munkin, who has a great situation here. Both quarterbacks are capable in Stetson Bennett and J.T. Daniels.
Starting point is 00:25:24 the offensive line is really good. And I don't think Florida's defense can hold up for 60 minutes against Georgia. You've seen them take more shots down the field, which gets them in earlier leading games, and then that defense just gets after you. Awesome article on ESPN.com about Jordan Davis, who's getting a lot of talk. I was going to ask you.
Starting point is 00:25:43 A lot of talk. Whose Heisman hype do you like better? His for the Caleb Williams hype at Oklahoma. I've said my piece on Caleb Williams. Jordan Davis is definitely working. of all the attention. The fact that he used to be a DJ and his DJ name was DJ Oreo.
Starting point is 00:26:00 DJ Oreo, dude. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the kid is, he's awesome. Just watch him. He's on a billboard bigger is better in Georgia. That's really got to, that's got to be fun to drive by. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So I think Georgia's defense wins over 60 minutes and I think their offense scores enough to cover this number. even though Florida fans want more from Dan Mullen but I mean the guy has to replace a lot of things from a team that took Alabama to the Wire who I thought last year was one of the best teams to ever play college football.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, I love Georgia man. I mean, I'd love to see a defensive football team winning a national championship 13 to 7. You know, it's just like I'm so tired of all these high scoring games, dude. Everybody acts like they love them. Like, can we mix in a little defense, a little outdoor football,
Starting point is 00:26:51 and a little more defense would be great for college football. I want to ask about an outsider here, Wake. You know, I'm enamored with Wake. I'm finally, like, on the bandwagon a little bit, we have one ACC team to root for. Is it possible? I mean, like, it's probably not possible, but you've got to be really impressed with this coach, man,
Starting point is 00:27:12 and the coordinator. Like, these guys, I'm surprised they haven't left five years ago to, like, to go somewhere higher profile. Yeah, Claude. Austin's had chances to go to the SEC. I want to see he was up for Vandy and took himself out of it. But I think it's a tribute to him. What he's built there,
Starting point is 00:27:30 it's not the easiest place to win football games. I went on a visit there. I thought it was a pretty cool place. But then it just didn't stack up to where I wanted to go. That was back when Jim Caldwell was the coach. Oh, wow. So, back to Al Groh era almost.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Algrove. Yeah, almost, almost. Almost. But Hartman's been incredible. I mean, people talk about picking a pit for the high. It's been Hartman's right there, man. He's been that good. I'm with you on Wake.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's a great story. They're always really good against the number. I'm really mad I went against them with Army last week because that never had a chance. Yeah, dude. It's what's done is done. We'll focus on Wake moving forward. But yeah, I think if they went out, they get in. I really do.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Undefeated ACC champ has got to get in. And the toughest test they have left is probably UNC, I believe. They still got Clemson, but I'm going to call UNC. their toughest tests left, just not being, you know, not grandfathering Clemson into that conversation. Am I missing anybody, Cowboy? Pitt. Pitt. Pit's a tough one, too.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah. Yeah. No, Pitt's playing great football. It's a really tough one. So if they went out, they will have a sufficient resume, I think, now one loss puts them out of it. When you compare to Cincinnati, for sure. Yeah, no, no question. And here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:28:44 As a defensive player, I'm looking at this offense, and the way they hold that mesh, the way they kind of read the safety rather than like a first level or second level defender in their read game is just it's maddening and they can get to almost anything with the way they play offense
Starting point is 00:29:03 it's truly something that I respect they haven't had to they haven't had good recruiting classes they've had probably the worst recruiting class in the ACC year in a year out and they found a way to put up big numbers so these coaches if I were sitting on you know if I was a chance
Starting point is 00:29:18 Chancellor at one of these big schools. I'd be looking outside the box and I'd say I want a package jail. I want Claussen and Ruggiero and I want them going west to USC or wherever. I don't know if that's overreactive, but I just really, really like Wake. So I'll be pulling for them. Go ACCC. Let's talk about the PAC 12 and I'm going to give you my pick here. Pack 12 after dark.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Dogs after dark, okay? As of last week, dogs after dark in the PAC 12. Who-hoo. were fucking 19 and 6 and then Arizona covered so now they're 20 and 6 so if you're a dog at night in the Pack 12
Starting point is 00:29:59 you got to feel good this weekend UCLA at Utah Utah giving 6 and a half I'm gonna go with UCLA you schooled me on UCLA last week keeping it close against Oregon I kind of wonder if that line's a lot different if they finish
Starting point is 00:30:16 that drive at the end of the game. That's a great point because Utah went up to Corvallis and just lost to Oregon State. I still say Utah is the toughest place to play in the conference. You know, it's a great crowd, an awesome fan base, and that place will be revved up when UCLA comes in.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So that's a interesting spot. Dorian Thompson, the quarterback gets hurt on the last drive from a sack by Tibido, who was just incredible again Saturday against UCLA. So I'm staying away from that one because I'm not sure about the quarterback status for UCLA, but I'll be watching it for sure. Okay, well, I'm giving it
Starting point is 00:30:52 out. I'm rolling the dice and I'll play the UCLA side, but keep an eye on the dogs after dark, man. It's just a new thing we got going here. If I see one, I just bet it. I mean, you're betting against Stanford this week, too. Yeah, I'll probably bet Washington. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Well, Washington's 1 and 6 against the spread here, Steve. Yeah, Washington is that team that should have lost Arizona last week. I found really depressing of myself staying up to watch the two worst teams in the conference Friday night.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I think it was 2 o'clock and there was six minutes left in the game and I had to go to bed. Yeah, you know what? I mean, I had the same feeling watching Denver and Cleveland, but I did it, which is almost worse because it's a Thursday night. You know what I mean? It's Thursday.
Starting point is 00:31:41 There's one more day in the week. Starting the old weekend. old day earlier. NFL man like the big news this week obviously JJ Watt that news came down yesterday or you know talking about he's going to probably be out for the season
Starting point is 00:31:56 he's got a shoulder injury I feel like that hurts them not in a way that a lot of people think necessarily but I think it hurts that defense I think he you know I feel bad for him he did a lot to to get his body ready for this he's had injuries the past couple years
Starting point is 00:32:12 he gained weight he's changed the way plays a little bit to fit in there and to keep up with getting older in the NFL. And it finally feels like this guy whose NFL royalty is going to get a ring. And now he's going to watch from the sidelines. So big blow for the Cardinals. What do you think it does for him, Steve? He provided a, like I said, I don't want to say a strength, but a stability in their defense where you really needed it.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And when you think of Arizona, obviously Jones gets all the sacks. but like you wanted a guy on the other side that you know caused attention yeah and who else to bring it in a three-time you know a defensive player of the year uh yeah it's it sucks man because when you look at i mean his back what was it his his leg he broke his leg i think and now a shoulder like man as a de-leiman you're using those things and it's i mean a lot of miles obviously um a ton of miles the work he put in. Yeah, a ton of miles inside. A ton of miles inside.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, when you rush inside, it's not like he was necessarily asked to do a lot in the run game from a like, hey, play block standpoint. He did what he wanted in Houston. But you're playing inside. There's big bodies. You played a ton of snaps, especially before we started rotating people. Like, he's got a ton of mileage. And, you know, you look at, you look, like when I sat, I remember sitting in an MRI room once
Starting point is 00:33:32 after I broke my tibia and I was IR two years in row. And I was waiting on an ACA. diagnosis because that's what they thought it was. And I was sitting there with Dr. Matava, who's actually been on this podcast before, and I'll never forget he said this. He thought I had an ACL and it sounded like I was going to retire if it was an ACL. And he just said to me,
Starting point is 00:33:50 he goes, a lot of times with defensive linemen and with guys who play a long time in the NFL in the trenches, it's not one injury. He goes, it's a buildup of a bunch of different little things. And for us, like calling a broken leg a little thing is one thing.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But I mean, like JJ's had a bunch of relatively little things. They're not career enders, but they're mounting now. And you mentioned it. They're all over his body. Shoulder, elbow, whatever else, leg. This guy's just had a tough run. And I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:34:19 it's over for him, but it would be unrealistic to expect the same JJ Watt again. At this point, it's about him getting a ring. It's about him finishing his career the way he wants to with dignity. I just feel for the guy because this is a thing where I've been there before and I didn't have half the career that
Starting point is 00:34:35 JJ Watt did, but you want to cash in on your great career. You know what I mean? And I feel like he's almost owed by the football gods and he was denied. I do want to say one thing. This is off topic, Chris.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You just brought up, I talked about being depressed watching Washington and Arizona. One of the most depressing parts I've ever had playing was when I was in college and you mentioned the MRI room, man. Like that room by yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I remember I was, God, I was 19 and I did something to my neck. I had no idea what I did. And I'm across the country. first camp away from family and laying down in that in that MRI machine and having to go all the way in because it's your neck like the old days like you're all the way in and in that sound and I ended up tearing my trap and having all kinds of nerve damage to my neck I was never the same player after that they're not even close um but you just like that that stuff man like
Starting point is 00:35:31 you're in there with a doctor that MRI room when they tell you to go in there and lay down man Oh, hell yeah. It's not only that. It's also boring. The things that went through my head in that, like, I still think about it. That's over 20 years ago, man. That is, that's the stuff where people always talk about guys coming back from injury, like what you do in those moments. That's, that's moment number one right there. It's the next morning. It's the next morning. You can't even look in the mirror. You can't look in the mirror. You're just looking up at a wall that's making the most annoying sound in the world. No, I fall asleep in there. I used to fall asleep in there.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Now I was stressed, but that it was almost like a sound machine. You know how loud that. You know, like people at home who have had an MRI are like, yep, that's the exact. But I used to nod off in there and they'd give you a little radio, the headphones. They'd be like, what kind of music do you want to listen? I'd be like, country. Do you have like, you know, like, and then you'd get like Keith Urban and you can't turn it off. And you were just stuck in there.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And they'd always tell you, you'd say, how long is this MRI going to be? They'd be like 30 minutes. And it was never. Like pilots and MRI operators are the biggest liars in the world. I need them both to be on point. It's not about, you know, but just tell me the truth. If it's going to be an hour, it's going to be an hour. I can remember one time the time before I broke my leg, the year before I got rolled up on in the first game this season, really depressing for me.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'd never missed any games. Phil Lodholt ran into my ankle. I was actually, I was playing Phil Lodholt and somebody rolled into my leg, so I had 700 pounds of force. So the next day I'm depressed. You know, you're like, my career's over, like whatever. all unrealistic thoughts, but I go to get the MRI. On the way back, it's 100 degrees in St. Louis because it's still September. I run out of gas on I-70 in a boot.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I'm sitting in my range rover, sweating my ass off. My phone is dead. I don't have a charger. I'm on the side of the road, bro. I have to flag somebody down and use their phone to get a ride home or to get somebody to bring me a gas can. Talk about the worst 24 hours of your life is usually the first 24 after you get hurt as a football player. I feel for JJ.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I hope he can get back healthy and get back to some semblance of himself, but it becomes really hard mentally and physically at this stage in your career. So hoping JJ gets back. Tonight we don't know what's going to happen. Time of tape. It is Thursday. I actually, I think Arizona rolls. I'm not going to overthink this one.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, I mean with all the people missing, I do. I'm on the record saying that in Thursday Night Time Machine earlier. Give me a couple of picks this weekend that you think are locked, Steve. Okay. There's only one game to me this week, Chris. One game. Yeah, Chargers pass. No, it's not Chargers Pass.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It's Sunday at 1 o'clock, Fox, Philly at Detroit. There we go. It is time. It is time for the Lions to get one. You think they're getting one? This is the time. I cannot believe they're, I mean, I can't believe. I can't believe they are getting points.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I don't want them. I think Detroit wins the game. Money line. I think they win the game, money line. All right. Dude, hey, bold prediction here. I think the line is like three. Three and a half.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Three and a half. The Eagles are two and five. I mean, it's chaos in Philly right now. People are questioned everything under the sun there. And in Detroit, it feels like everybody kind of respects the team for what they've been able to fight through and the way they've been able to play. But just crushing last week,
Starting point is 00:39:05 I talked about this in the pod. Jared Goff is never going to forget that missed opportunity. Never. Like that's going to, I don't stick with him his entire life. He's already been in the Super Bowl and those stick around a while if you lose, so I hear.
Starting point is 00:39:20 But like Jared missing those throws in the fourth quarter with them on the doorstep. I mean, a win over McVeigh would have felt as good as a Super Bowl for him. So I feel for those guys. I really like Jared golf as a guy. I just want everybody to get a win there. And I hate that I'm looking at my Eagles
Starting point is 00:39:37 and I'm thinking this might be the best shot. But if you're an Eagles fan, you might want Detroit to win too. Because look at the picks you guys are sitting with next year in the draft. And you've got a lot you need to address. Maybe if you're an Eagles fan, it's not the worst weekend to bet Detroit, emotional hedge.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Think about the 2020. Think about the 2020 draft. Come on board, people. Lions. Hop on board with Stanford Steve. Covering Campbell. Last week I bet against him and it burned me. I should know.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I gave him a nickname and then I bet against him. So let's talk about the second best game of the week. So you're giving out Detroit Money Line. Chargers, Pat's. I'm giving out the over in this game. I'll tell you that. I don't know which side I'm on. I would lean New England to cover,
Starting point is 00:40:21 but I'm definitely liking the over. Last year was 45-0. Now, these are two different teams, but when you look at some of the blunders that they had last year, you look at the beginning of the game. They got jumped, undoubtedly. You had a New England touchdown on the first drive. You had the charges missing a field goal.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And then from there they punted and Gunner had a touchdown. So they did down 14-0. Special teams bit him in the ass twice right off the bat. You get another Pats TD and then a field goal block before half. So their special teams were really bad. But I have bad news for the Chargers. DVOA-wise, their special teams are not very good this year either. where I think they're different is that Justin Herbert is more experience
Starting point is 00:41:01 and they'll start faster and this is going to be a good football game but I think that the Patriots run the football everybody has the Pats are going to run the football and guess what the Chargers are going to throw the football and they're going to throw it at will because the Pats secondary now down Gilmore has kind of been a little bit more average than in recent years so I think this is a high scoring game I can't tell you who I think is going to win I think it'll be the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I think the Patriots probably cover. What say you? I think you hit it right on the head. It comes down with the over to me is how many sustainable drives do the Chargers get. You know, we talked about New England's going to run the football, right? Keep Herbert off the field. Is Herbert going to get three and outs because that's what happened last year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And that's how you get jumped in this league. When you can't stop the run and those teams can wear on you and then your pressure build, as you're only getting a couple of plays or a lot less plays per quarter, that's when it builds. But I am interested because I, you know, I go back to that Dallas, New England game. I thought,
Starting point is 00:42:08 I thought New England would be able to do some things in the secondary, and they couldn't. Dak figured him out, and he had it rolling. And now Herbert, second time against Belichick, I mean, you can put the game playing all together you want. If you don't have the guys to put it together, you know on the field you're in trouble so i think it's a big big game for herbert and i'm really
Starting point is 00:42:31 interested to see how he comes out in a second time against bellichick and knowing what he wants to do and who's he going to go to take away um is mike williams going to be that guy we saw the first couple weeks or the guy that's you know gone away the last couple weeks uh so i think it's a fascinating matchup i probably would take the points uh with new england here in this game just knowing what what they're made i think that run game is is is real and match has continued to, you know, add more to his plate as far as the passing game goes, but it all starts with that run game. Damian Harris has been great.
Starting point is 00:43:02 So I think I would lean Patriots with that points there. Well, as always, folks, by the point, get it to a touchdown. You know, it's like having life insurance. Don't get caught without it. Yeah. So, yeah, I was watching some of the local New England interviews that they do. And it's actually pretty cool that, you know, Bill does a thing with Zolak every week. because do you think of Bill as being this guy that doesn't do anything,
Starting point is 00:43:26 but if you actually Google, he does weekly kind of tape breakdowns. And I always wonder when he's doing those tape breakdowns, like, you know he's intentional about what he's saying and what he's not. And sometimes what he's saying, I don't know what the purpose of saying anything of value is to him. Maybe it's knowing that the Chargers are watching
Starting point is 00:43:45 and that he's going to be ready for tempo. Like this week, one of the biggest things the Chargers do really well is they vary tempo. like it's it's very frustrating if you're a defensive player to get quick count to have them slow down it can be exhausting he talked for about a minute out of his three minute allotment on the tempo and he's showing us a Browns clip
Starting point is 00:44:06 where they got gashed in quarters and they weren't ready he goes look at this the officials are bailing out of here and you got these two Browns guys talking to each other and I can hear it like I'm in the meeting but it's obvious he's talking to his guys about tempo It's obvious that that's going to be a sticking point for him. It's obvious that Justin Herbert scares him rolling out of the pocket, especially to the right.
Starting point is 00:44:28 These are going to be coaching points this week. Get down, get ready to go. I can hear it now. He's screaming at these guys about tempo and don't let this big fucking guy out of the pocket. And those are going to be big keys for that defense. Now, they're going to give up big plays. But can they force a couple turnovers? Can they win on special teams?
Starting point is 00:44:47 I think it's going to be a really good game. and I think that Brandon Staley probably has the respective bill. Also, Kyle Van Nuoy, that Dallas game, his interview this week, he was still talking about that Dallas game. They were still mad about that Dallas game. He skipped behind the Jets game to talk about what DAC did to us. And so you better believe that was a long week there. You better believe the past game is something that they're pissed off about giving up
Starting point is 00:45:13 so prolifically over the past few weeks. So yeah, it's going to be fun. There's a lot of yelling going on. behind closed doors in New England this week. Two things. Does Belichick have a really loud yell? No, no, it's not a yell. All his assistance yell.
Starting point is 00:45:31 You know, the whole thing when coaches yell to show off to the head coach. Yes. Like the yelling factor in New England with the assistance is high because they all want to, you know, they want to let Bill know that they got things under control. Bill is. And then the offensive guys hate the defensive guys that yell because they think they're trying to show off.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They go over the top the other way. Now we got to yell. It sets up for great assistant coach fights. Oh, yeah, no. This fucking guy brought it today. Now I got to scream it. But you know, it's interesting. It's interesting hearing Bill talk.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I mean, he compared Echler to James White. It's very illuminating to hear that stuff. So if you get a chance to watch him in Zolak every week, he's insightful at the very least. He knows he's not giving you anything. But that should be a fun one. One other thing. Yeah. If it's Staley,
Starting point is 00:46:20 if Staley's everybody's favorite coach, right? Like he's a new guy. Two weeks ago, two weeks ago he was. Okay. But he's, he's a defensive guy. He's got to fix this run defense, doesn't he? Yes, he absolutely has to fix the run defense. The run defense could be the thing that keeps you from winning a Super Bowl. Correct. And I don't know how, I don't know exactly how you fix it at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I have to look closer, but, but that's something I could stick in their crawl, like in the playoffs. That's the missing piece with this team. I mean, it truly is. So, Who else you got this weekend? I like Minnesota at home. In a spot, I mean, I forgot who I was talking to listening to talk.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It might have been Jonathan Vilma. And we were talking, he was talking to Rosillo about, you know, best group of toys to play with for a quarterback. And I put Dallas up there. I love what Dallas has, especially with a healthy deck. And he brought up Minnesota. And then when I started looking at it, it's like, wow. Yeah, because of how good those two guys are on the outside and what you have to do defensively.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And I know they lost Earth Smith Jr., but Conklin's come in and doing a good job. I mean, listen, you saw with Zach Ertz last week in Arizona. A tight end is a hell of a lot better when he has green grass to run routes. And I think Conklin's making the most out of that. So I think he's a key cognizant of this game Sunday night. I think Cousins steps up here. I know the prime time deals and all that. But I think he's perfect.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I've taken what defense gives you. Quinn has been phenomenal. Maybe the MVP of the Cowboys organization. But I think Minnesota on this stage, Sunday night, home game, that crowd will be raring to go. Everyone says, you know, I should say, beginning of the week, Dack didn't look right. Now he sort of looks right, but he didn't go full go.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He was limited. I need a full, healthy deck to get me on the Cowboys. And I don't see that. So I like Minnesota playing a high scoring game. I think it's going to be a really fun game. Wow, the total is 55. Yeah, it went 31, 28 last year. And I feel like, you know, games of the Vikings play with, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:29 they've played games with Russell Wilson over the past couple of years have gone high. With DAC have gone high. Like, this team can score. So I would tend to, I mean, that's a big number, but I almost would, would hammer it. I, like, I'm staying away here because I have too many interests. You know, I want to sink the Viking ship. We're on the under, on the win total.
Starting point is 00:48:49 They're three and three right now. You know, this would go a long way for me feeling better about this bet because this is one that I think they're supposed to lose. I'll give you an under. I'm on a lot of unders this week, man. I like the under in the Bengals Jets game. Bengals Jets under for me seems, and I know the Bengals can score,
Starting point is 00:49:08 but maybe they want to get out of there. You know, that's my general fear. I think they got their buy week next too. at their buy week next week. This thing could be a bit of a sleepy ball game at the Meadowlands. Playing at the Meadowlands can be kind of like NyQuil. I might give out Bengals Jets under. I also like Dolphins Bills under.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Those are both at around 50. Bucks Saints. I have zero interest in the bucks. I know they're going to win. Right. I know, but it's five, dude. Like, are we supposed to be afraid because of last year the New Orleans clean sweep and then in the regular season?
Starting point is 00:49:44 It almost stinks to me. Yeah, I think the Saints are getting a lot more credit than they should for the defensive effort they put out Monday night against Seattle. That's the way I look at it, right? I mean, listen, I mean, Henderson, Jordan, those guys, Laughmore. They're at the top of the list when it comes to their positions, but you were going against Seattle who's not a good offense to me. So I think they're going to benefit of the doubt there.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And yes, I think last year does come into play. Obviously plenty of motivation for the Saints, but I just, I just, Buccaneers are so boring to me. Tom's going to throw four more touchdowns and they're going to win. They are boring. They are boring. They are going to have to beat them in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:50:24 They are boring, but I'm going to bet them this week. I'll give out Tampa. That's a sucker bet, but I'll give it out. And I also want to give out Cincinnati at 42 and a half, Censee, New York. I'll take the under on that.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I know it seems kind of low, but I'll take the under. Could be a sleepy ball game at the metal, at the Meadowlands. You get the buy week next week, as you mentioned. So those are my three. I'll take the under and Sensing, New York. I'll take Tampa giving five, although I kind of hate it. I kind of hate it. And then the third one I'll give out is obviously going to be, we talked about it earlier. Chargers in New England over.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Titans Colts is pretty interesting. Yeah, I think a lot of people are surprised. you know, India's favorite. Yeah, and I think they're trying to tell you something there. I'll tell you what, from how bad Tennessee looked defensively early in the year and now what they could do from a pass-rest standpoint with seeing Bud standing up on that outside
Starting point is 00:51:28 and obviously they have Landry, like that's that's a good after you. Landry's good, man. I remember we played Tennessee in 2018 in the middle of like a bad post-super Bowl slide. and Landry beat Lane Johnson off the snap for a sack and he was one of the quickest young players I had seen in person over that couple years span and I wondered for a couple years like when's he going to kind of pop
Starting point is 00:51:53 and obviously right now sitting here with almost eight sacks halfway through the season this has been his year and they've been waiting for a guy and they've paid for guys they've tried to bring in dudes we've all been looking the wrong places he was right here and he's stepping up and making a difference Totally agree. But that's a good matchup there. So you like Indy?
Starting point is 00:52:15 You think they're trying to tell you something? I think they're trying to tell you something there. Yeah, I love, man, I love Darius Leonard so much. And then hearing him talk this week about he's not in the must wins, but this is a must win. The whole thing that comes with him is so awesome. I still wish more guys took their gloves off in that Niners Colts game. I mean, guys, it's not going to stop raining. I,
Starting point is 00:52:40 yeah, you're right about that. Yeah, you're absolutely right about. That's just the pet peeve of mine. That was like the last scene in the fan with Robert De Niro. And yeah, you remember that? Or the beginning scene in Last Boy Scout. Last Boy Scout,
Starting point is 00:52:56 which was incredible that the guy was able to run. Was he running full speed when he shot that pistol? Yes. It was like just ridiculous, dude. With the ball on his hand. With the ball on his hand. How about they didn't call? either game. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:12 obviously the shooting, but the rain, especially in baseball, you'd think they would have called that game. You couldn't even see the... See, you're old enough to know this movie. A lot of times when I talk about the fan, people are like, I haven't seen it. It's not computing.
Starting point is 00:53:28 It's a worthwhile movie. Wesley Snipes, Robert De Niro. So you're giving out who, to recap, real quick? I will give out the Lions, the Vikings, and I will take the Patriots. Man, this seems so sound from you.
Starting point is 00:53:44 So I'm going to stick with, I'm going to stick. I go 3 and 0 last week. I don't know. What are the rankings right now? I think I'm winning the NFL. Steve did go 3 and 0 last week. You need it. And he does need it. He's actually 10 and 7 and 1. Okay, that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:54:00 12, 14 and 1 overall. Chris, you're 14, 12 and 1 overall. 12, 8 and 1 in the NFL. Okay, okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. We're both on the right side of it. So that's good. There we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So both y'all are beating the heck out of make and he's 8-11 and 1. But on Thursday night, he's like a savant, dude. He picks the score exactly right. Something about Thursdays with that guy. So, yeah, again, I'm going, I'm giving out the over in New England and L.A. I'm giving out the bucks of minus five and I'm taking the under in Sincere in New York. And if I had to pick one more, I kind of like Indy because what we were talking about. I just feel like Tennessee's played above themselves a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And Indy is going to be one of those teams that's going to get better as the year goes on. We're already seeing it. And again, it's fishy to a lot of people, but not to me. I'll take Indy. So let me bounce, let me bounce Sinty and the Jets because I'm gun shy on that total and replace them with Indy. Hey, Stanford, Steve, it's Macon Gunter from the Greenlight podcast. I'm a bit under the weather, which is just a fancy term for my not feeling well. But I'll be back in no time.
Starting point is 00:55:20 This time away will be short-lived. NFL, I'll take the bills minus 13 and a half. I'll take the Lions plus three and a half. I'll take the Colts plus a point. I think they win that ball game. All righty. take care. See you soon. I like it.
Starting point is 00:55:39 All right. Well, we got a lot of college football this week. A better slate this week, Steve. There we go. There we go. There we go. Christ is fat. Fire up. So we can all rest now. I'm happy about college football. And a lot of great game Sunday. Steve, happy Halloween. Are you going to dress up? Probably not. We got to go to work Sunday night. Yeah, that's too. A lot of people watch our show too.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I mean, some people got to work. Yeah, some people do. You know, a lot of people are waiting to hear the Greenlight Pot. Is Grubhub open on Halloween night? It's got to be. It's got to be. I hope so. Yeah, I'm going to order straight candy corn.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Candy corn everything. I'm about to drink a candy corn milkshake after we get off. Okay. Yeah, can you get down with that? I think I could. Wow, so you like candy corn. I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I don't eat bags of it. You don't hate it because you don't want attention. Everybody that says they hate it. hate it just wants attention. Like we, like we get it. You're, it's trending that candy corn's bad. Candy corn bad. We get it. I think the texture gets to me, you know, and that way you're going to you're going to do a milkshake. I think I can get down with that. Let's, yeah, well, I'll report back. Stanford Steve. Appreciate you. I'll catch you this weekend. Happy hunting, man. You too, brother. See you. Fuck to you soon.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Kai, you're really witnessing history today, um, sitting here in this studio. Cowboy Roy Reid has never occupied that chair. Not while we're recording, no. No, he likes to sit in there and fart maybe when Macon's not here. Give it right back to him. Yeah, this is history. And we're going to make more history because I don't think there's a candy corn smoothie out there anywhere. Like if you Google candy corn smoothie, what comes up?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Nothing probably. Can't be much. It might be that the offensive linemen for the Jaguars who made that gnarly smoothie. With Colleen Wolf or something. idea it was yeah he was a he was at the combine yeah yeah yeah well he could have used some candy corn had a little kick the first thing is like many people asked me to rank Halloween candy um because everybody's into that bullshit this time of year and I asked you to prepare a list of your favorite Halloween candy you did and I've got it how many how many you got I got eight oh good so we got
Starting point is 00:58:00 touchdown two point conversion worth a candy here you want to go from the top or you want to go from let's go from eight down eight down build the suspense cowboy all right so number eight and this was there are two mint candies i was in between but i'm going junior mince at number eight york peppermint patties or junior mints i'm going junior mints junior mints are dope they're like the the movie candy they are a good movie candy yeah okay give me seven seven caramel apple pops i don't if you remember these, but they are apple pops. You dip them their caramel and little, uh, they are dank. They are crunchy as tastewoods, Calmore.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah, that's my only kind of wild one, but they, man, I haven't had one of those in a while. Caramel apple. Apple pops. Yep. They're phenomenal. I want to find them. I think I can probably get them on Amazon, the only streaming service that we support. Boy, these, these look so cheap.
Starting point is 00:58:53 These look like drugs. Well, they might be shit, man. But these look like, damn, these look like drugs. Like these looks like unofficial candies. Yeah. Like they're not FDA approved. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, it might have been.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I, like, I was giving it to a guy who is like the candy rep for that company when I was younger. Like it wasn't, I didn't buy it in a store. We need to find a bunch of these motherfuckers. He didn't even buy them in a store. No. If we, anybody can tell us where to get these candy apple pops. Caramel? Caramel.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Apple pops. Yep. Six. six. I have Reese's bite-sized peanut butter cups, the ones that come in the little golden wrappers not like the orange packages like bigger ones that you have to take two bites. The little little guys. It's specific. Oh yeah yeah I know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:59:40 like but they're harder to unwrap too. A little harder but hey that builds character. I guess so it probably controls the consumption. I like the big ones. Like eight of those motherfuckers. It's like a meal. I know you can go through those. go through those. Watermelon Sour Patch Kids.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Watermelon specifically. Okay. Yeah. So you can differentiate, like you can specify. Yeah. And if you freeze them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Watermelon is different than the main Sarah Pachers. Anything watermelon works. Yeah. Oh yeah. Anytime. And if you freeze them, they are something else.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Okay. Throw your watermelon Sour Patch Kids in the freezer. Fire those things up. Life hack. Yeah, man. Okay. Number four,
Starting point is 01:00:23 Eminems. I'm deciding between peanut or just, normal milk chocolate. The caramel ones are low-key, super solid. Really, really, really good.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And I mean, honestly, I don't think I know a bad M&M. I know some bad M&M's. Peanut M&Ms. Really? So I was deciding between peanut and milk shire. I like peanut.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I just don't like, I love peanut, but I just don't, you know, some things that just don't mix for me. I'd like to enjoy them separately. Yeah, I'd rather eat peanut butter with a spoon
Starting point is 01:00:52 out of the fucking jar at the jar. Out of the gift jar. If you break, if you break rule, the first rule of fight club. Right. Number three, baby Ruths. Baby Ruth.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Oh, it's been ages since I had a baby Ruth. Dude, you got to fire those. And those things are... What do they take? What's the flavor on baby? So it's like... Your chocolate, right? Yeah, it's in the middle
Starting point is 01:01:11 and then peanuts on top and then milk chocolate. Oh, really? That's what they used in... Is it Snickers? There's basically a knockoff Snickers. Snickers has caramel. Oh, okay. Like, very different tastes.
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's weird. Like, the Nougu must be mad different. But it's... That's the candy bar they used. in Caddyshack. When you put it in the pool and he's like... Yeah, it definitely looks like a poo. Yeah, it definitely looks like a deconstructed
Starting point is 01:01:34 any candy bar looks like a turd. Okay, next. And then number two, I've got three musketeers. Nice, simple, nugget, chocolate. Yeah, they're good. Those are solid. Number one, midnight Milky Ways. The dark chocolate Milky Ways.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Those, they, you can't go wrong. Midnight Milky Ways. Yeah. And they come in a cool, rapper too. I'm looking at it. It seems like a cool like special edition. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And then they, and then it just hung around because they were damn popular. Damn, dude. Yeah. They should make that a full time player. They just come out in Halloween or? No, no,
Starting point is 01:02:09 no. That's full time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They've been around for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Okay, good. Midnight Milky Way is taking home the title. I sent Matt my eight favorite last night. I didn't put them in order. So I'll try to do that. I'll go number eight. Uh,
Starting point is 01:02:27 hairbow bears. Just like, wow. Classic gummy bears. I love some gummy bears. A lot of it is visual for me. They just look so fucking cool. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:36 the gold wrappers. Oh, yeah. Love it. I'll go bears at eight. If you freeze those, Taylor taught me that. If you freeze the hair bow,
Starting point is 01:02:44 freeze them. Yep. Put alcohol in them and freeze them. Yeah. Is that the next? Yeah. Yeah, I can taste that right now.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I might do that this weekend. It'll be pretty. Yeah, walk around. Yeah. All right. Hairbow bears at eight. I'll go seven.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I'll go Woppers. I know it's an upset pick for a lot of people, but I love Woppers. Love them. Supposedly Bill Belichick likes the, like, malt balls. Is that unpopular? Yeah, I'm not a fan of those puppies.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Would you say that's more on the random end of the spectrum? Kingston didn't like my list at all. Yeah, that picks way off board. Okay, all right. It's off the board. It's a reach. But, okay, well, wait till six through one. So my six, for the purpose of this list,
Starting point is 01:03:26 is going to be Snickers. Nice. Down the middle, Newgate, okay? Yep. It's incredible that you like all that Snickers adjacent ship but didn't include Snickers.
Starting point is 01:03:36 No, I know. Yeah, that was off the... I mean, yeah, the Three Musketeers and Milky Way Midnight, they just kick it out of the park. Okay, wait midnight. I need to get some ace out.
Starting point is 01:03:44 All right, so I'm at five. I'll go white airheads, the white ones. Mm. You're not into those. Well, I'm into airheads. I don't have as much experience with the white airheads. Are you afraid of
Starting point is 01:03:55 mystery? When I saw mystery, I was like, nah, I like green apple and blue hands. It's really not a mystery, though. It tastes the same every time. It tastes fucking awesome every time. Like, you know what you're going to get. It has a reputation of being like a sporadic player,
Starting point is 01:04:10 but this player delivers every time. Every time. I'll go four here. It's going to shock some people, okay? But I'll go four, and it's cowtails. A lot of people think of that as a Little League baseball candy. Yeah. You don't think of that as a Halloween candy.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah, you don't. but you should. Like if somebody gives me cow tails, like that dapp with a cowtail in the palm from like somebody in the neighborhood is just, it's like, oh, you get it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 You fucking get it. Cowtails are a literally candy or a road trip. You always come into like the convenience store. Bass pro shops now. Yeah. Like I got, or Best Buy I got three DVDs and a couch cage DVDs and a fucking cowtale. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:54 The cashier is like anything else. Anything else? And they mean any other movies? Sure, I'll get these three cowtips. And I'll take some mystery airheads too. That was a, that's a major Best Buy, like front, front row of the Best Buy purchase. Okay, that's how they get you, Best Buy. So I got three left to give here.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yep. All right, I'll go number three is going to be Butterfinger. Wow. It's a shocker for a lot of people. Yeah, that. Butterfinger, because you think about Butterfinger is it's like a delayed release candy. Like you get to eat it for a while. He's going to be in your teeth.
Starting point is 01:05:26 It's just going to be in teeth for a long time. The butterfingers flavor. Long time. For quite some time. And now that I have Invisaline, I haven't eaten a butterfinger since my teeth got room to breathe. There's going to be butterfinger stuck all in my teeth. This is going to be the best Halloween ever. November 12th.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah, Butterfiger. Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Butterfingers are three for me. A lot of people may not think that. Number two, I'll go Reese's, the big ones. We talked about this. I want to get a big bite of peanut butter
Starting point is 01:05:57 because the smaller ones naturally, it's like geometry or something that the smaller the Reese's is the more chocolate to peanut butter the ratio is and I want more peanut butter to my chocolate. So if you gave me a fucking Reese's this big, I would eat it in one sitting, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Like square. I had to finish a square there, dude. But like it could be an eight inch wide box, a Reese's and I would eat the whole thing. Number one is... What you should do... What? You should just make your own wreaths.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Get your jar of peanut butter, scoop out and melt some chocolate and just go do it and nail that every time. And put some... Put some... Something else in there. Yeah, but yeah, throw some else in there. Yeah, that sounds like a nice midnight snack. Wake up with a giant panic attack at 5 in the morning. What's wrong, babe?
Starting point is 01:06:47 I ate a fucking 8-inch-wide wreaths spiked with good bud. I'll do number one. This is going to really infuriate some people, but we're going to have to go candy corn at one. You know, candy corn at one. You put that on the social and just watch the world burn. But I do believe, for the record,
Starting point is 01:07:06 that candy corn is a top eight Halloween candy and people should stop pretending. They don't like candy corn. And what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to make the world's first candy corn smoothie records. Well, how are we going to do this, Cowboy Reed? You got it. Reed went out and got a blender today.
Starting point is 01:07:21 and I asked Kingston, I was like, the budget-wise, is there anything else we could do with blenders to make this worthwhile purchase? He said it's a sunk cost. No, we can do tons of stuff with blenders. Taste test galore. Hey, we can do all the, we got all those cereals downstairs. We could just mix them up.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah, mix them up. We got all these NFL player cereals. We got like fucking Josh Allen's Jacks. Josh Allen's Jacks, Nick Chubs, something. The Camara Rings. Camere Crunch. Yeah, dude, that's a lot of fucking candy corn in there, but that's fine. It's about 300 grams of sugar.
Starting point is 01:07:57 So if you heard that, we put about two average size handfuls of candy corn in the in the blender here. We got some almond milk because we are healthy. Yeah. Almond milk going in the blender. You can do the honor there. Do the honors. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Damn, that looks delicious, dude. Oh my God. Look at that. Look at that. I might, you could eat candy corn like cereal, honestly. That looks delicious. I would scoop that with a spoon and eat it.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Now the ice cream. Now, I don't put too much in here, Cowboy. No, we got to do it all. All of it? Let me see how much is in there. God, dog, that's a lot of ice cream. Trust in you. This is like a quart, right?
Starting point is 01:08:46 The next level up from a pint. God, you put the whole quart in there. Take a little less quart. It was like half a quart Because Taylor already made himself No I know But half a quart is like Easily a pint
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's a lot of ice cream There cowboy Maybe put a few more candy corns in there No no no no I think I think we should just pull some of this ice cream out No we'll top it off with some candy corn No we don't need to do that Just a couple look right on top
Starting point is 01:09:15 There we go look at that Okay we're gonna blend this thing now we got Half of a quart whatever that converts to of ice cream we have about 14 fluid ounces of ice cream hog andaws that would please Doug Peterson
Starting point is 01:09:30 he fucking love hogandas man all right hit the you want to blend it this is for Doug Peterson that one right there it's not orange enough dude more candy corn no we don't need any more candy corn
Starting point is 01:09:46 we got a whole bag in here starting to look yeah there you go you know what It's kind of like mixing paint. Give me a little more candy corn. It sounds delicious when the candy corns hit the blender like that. All right, we got two nice bourbon glasses that we're going to sample this bad boy out of.
Starting point is 01:10:10 You cannot convince me that this is bad. There's no way this is bad. Oh, this looks good. That's mad orange. Look at that. This looks good. This should be a Broncos drink, dude. Official celebrity,
Starting point is 01:10:23 drink of the Denver Broncos. Candy corn crush. Candy corn crush. This is your cereal. Candy corn crush sounds like a really good strain of marijuana. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Let's see how this goes. Holy shit. This is the best thing I'm right. That's not bad. That's some sugar right there. Damn, that's not bad. That's really good, dude. That's pretty clean.
Starting point is 01:10:47 That does taste a little orange creamsicely. Kai, thumbs down. He's shocked. Yeah. Big thumbs up. Matt, who hates candy corn, not seeking a attention doesn't have really an online social media footprint loves this drink yeah yeah it tastes like an orange ice cream delight it's freaking amazing it is really good it doesn't taste like candy corn
Starting point is 01:11:12 it is so good candy corn's textures dude how much sugar you think's in this cup here dude on let's see so we used about 14 ounces of hog and da's oh so good vanilla ice cream it's so good i'm finishing my glass are you gonna finish your glass? Oh yeah. So about 12 sugars from the ice cream. He's about a half a bag of candy corn. Oh my God, dude. That was so good.
Starting point is 01:11:36 So another 12 sugars of candy corn. Does almond milk have any sugar? That was like a hit of drugs. I think low key, the almond milk is what made it. Yeah. High key, man. High key. You get a little healthy in there.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Get a little holiday in there. So for the people at home, if you want to make your own, about half a bag of Brock's candy corn, about seven ounces of candy corn about... I don't feel well. Seven, how much was this? 14 ounces of vanilla ice cream.
Starting point is 01:12:04 It's enough. And probably six ounces of almond milk. And boy, let me tell you this is tasty. It's really good. And here's another thing you can do with candy corn conceivably. You could put it in your ice cream. Yeah. Candy corn ice.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Hey, you know what? Why don't they have that at... Why don't we open a shop? Downstairs. Yeah, downstairs. Exactly. And we'll do a candy corn ice cream shop. Candy corn ice cream,
Starting point is 01:12:32 candy corn milkshakes, and we can start selling your Chris Long candy corn cereals. You can join Josh Allen and Alvin Camara. You can do it in all those guys. You get your own cereal. Reed, you're now my agent. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Brian. You're on the hot seat. Reed just made me rich and diabetic. So Kai's in here. I figure we could let him on the spot, ask us one or two mailbag questions if he has any off the top of his head. Candy, that's good for like the first two or three and then you get sick of. I guess dots could be one.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Oh, good one. Dots are a big like airplane candy for pro teams. Like we had dots for some reason. Lucky. Is it, though? I think I can roll through multiple boxes. Also, I love the fact that they're in boxes. The fact that they're like they come in boxes.
Starting point is 01:13:27 like junior mince? I like that. Cool. I like that. Really cool. Same thing with Eminem's, well, for me. I already shared my disdain for the peanut ones. It's not disdain. I'm just not interested. Yeah, it's a lot of chewing. It's a lot of like breaking the hard shell. It's a lot of like just a lot of milk chocolate.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Milk chocolate is so boring. It is. I'm going, uh, Kit Katz. Kit Katz are my like, I do one or two of those. I can't do like a full blown crunch, crunch. You got some fucking Midnights here? When those come out? these are they glow in the dark damn you got all the the like uh the rare jordan's of the that's right of the candy world hey man cvs on the downtown mall it's where it's that oh fuck yeah one more dude fucking zero bars you cannot eat more than one zero bar in a sitting i've seen those i'm
Starting point is 01:14:17 like i don't need that that just looks weird that looks something like a candy bar from the future like silver blue it does it looks like no a candy bar from the 90s future from where we thought the future would look like in the 90s. Yeah, that was like back to the future was making their movies and you're like, we need a candy bar on set. And they were like, oh, they go to 2015 or whatever and people fly on on hoverboards and eating zero bars. And they're eating zero bars. The Jetsons were eating zero bars.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Right, exactly. So honestly, after I just did all that and we did all that, they're not the worst thing in the world for one zero bar. Right. You could never go north of one zero bar. And Kai went Rolos. Rolos. Rollos as well. That's very true.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah. Also hard to unres. wrap that thing. Yeah. Great question, Kai. First in-studio question from Kai. Yeah, that's great. By the way, I do know what those Apple things are. Right? Uh-huh. Fun story. Not my gap.
Starting point is 01:15:09 But the chip tooth, after Halloween, had one right there because they get stuck. Yeah. Tore it down. Oh, my good. Yeah. So when you're talking, I was like, I know those far too well. Yeah, damn. You're not wrong. Like, they do get stuck a couple times. You're getting a little nervous. Yeah, you're like, fuck, fuck. Is this forever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 What kind of candy are you putting in your top eight? Looks like it could be drugs, taking people's teeth out. Kai, our guy, thanks for being with us. And now we've got James Coe to wrap the show. I'm rapping right now. Did you hear that? Kai, our guy, thanks for being with us. Now we got James Coe to wrap this show.
Starting point is 01:15:46 We got Dr. Facts on Sundays now. And then we've got, yeah, it's like a bedtime thing and just the whole thing. And, you know, like Macon's going to be. to be Tuesdays and Thursdays for Wednesdays and Friday shows. So we get Macon during the week. Facts at night. Macon during the daytime. Coe. Y'all take care. Macon during work hours. Yeah. Fax at night. Yeah, because, yeah, Macon's, it's in his contract. That's right. That's right. It's in his contract. And good for Macon. He'll be able to, he'll be here for Eli Manning next week. Oh yeah. That lines up perfectly for him. His childhood hero. So Macon can ask why they won last
Starting point is 01:16:27 week because they need to lose for the one draft. Oh, I'm sure Eli is going to be great playing back with the tanking bit. Hey, y'all, we want you guys to interact with us more on social media here. Let me not sound like a fucking cop talking about this. We want you to talk to us, you know, like sometimes you get on there and you're like, yeah, y'all aren't talking to us. Just type us a message. I don't know, we'll be on VSCO soon. We'll be on all types of shit soon. So right now it's Twitter, it's Instagram, it's YouTube. Uh, leave some comments, man, you know, Twitter is at Greenlight and YouTube we're at Greenlight too
Starting point is 01:17:02 and we're also always looking for free stuff so we are once again asking you for random free shit in my Bernie Sanders meme voice send packages to 2150 Wise Street number 5267 that's Charlottesville Virginia 22905
Starting point is 01:17:22 thank you in advance for all the wonderful things you'll send us All right, it's just me and James Coe this week. Macon, of course, has the sniffles. I just let James know. And that's a tough pill to swallow, not having my sidekick in here to beat up over fantasy football. Seeing as my Liberty cuckles are five and two, two game slide here, James Co.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Okay. Yeah, it's getting scary for the cucks. But it's Halloween weekend. Let's start with that. Yeah. What kind of candy are you into around this time of year? I love those Reese's pieces like bites what are those little things they're like you know they're like little little little the little little ones so you want like the m&Ms kind of yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:18:07 but with peanut butter in them like oh good night sign me up yeah what you don't like those yeah you can get a lot more out of a Reese's cup and and it's a lot less too dude dude I'm out on Eminems what's what's something that um or any Eminem parallel what's something that when you get it in your bag you're like nah dude uh you know first of all can we had address the whole Mike Leach like hating candy corn situation like I don't get I get here it's hard you've done here in a big way in a big way like I'm on I feel like I'm on an island like I don't hate candy corn it's a weird name like corn that's candy and it's not corn really welcome to the island bro we're both on the island together uh I don't get it Cowboy Reed what's the problem
Starting point is 01:18:51 me and Cowboy Reed just did something that some people might think is disgusting you'll have to wait to see it tomorrow, but it includes, it involves candy corn. So, all right, James Coe is pro candy corn. He's pro, he's pro reesey, little bits, the pieces. Yeah, the little bits. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's because the hard, the hard shell on the outside gives us that little extra crunch. And then I'm just a big sucker for peanut butter.
Starting point is 01:19:14 So me too, man. Me too. All right. We're on the same team here. And you've had some Halloween costumes as of late. I've seen you dressing up as a used car salesman and, and Bob Ross. Did I see it Bob Ross? This is my, yeah, this is my weekly journey into the depths of my own mind, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:33 where it's like I dress up as like Southern California used car salesman legend, Cal Worthington, except I'm co-Worthington. Co-Worthington. Dressed up as fantasy Bob Ross, man. Like I've done Jimmy Simmons. Remember Richard Simmons, the old fitness guru. Oh, how could you forget Richard Simmons? So you're Jimmy Simmons.
Starting point is 01:19:54 That's good. A little Jimmy Simmons, man. So no, I don't know, man. Like we just, we do these stupid skits for direct TV each and every week. And, uh, and basically I just keep waiting for them to tell me to dial it back. And I'm just like as so long as they don't, man, I'm just, I'm going off, man. Are you like a method actor? You go spend like 24 hours in a car dealership before you.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Bro, my, my YouTube algorithm is so fucked up, bro. Like YouTube has no idea what the hell I'm watching. You know, it's like, why are you watching these old ass, you know, use car salesman ads? like why are you watching 1980s like Richard Simmons videos Suzanne Summers thigh master videos like what are you watching out here dude? It's so fucked up
Starting point is 01:20:35 Susan Summers Thighmaster videos oh man explain that one to your lovely wife like she goes through your browsing history no I'm just prepping for a roll yeah so I said you would be right hey this week man
Starting point is 01:20:53 it's about the halfway point here I mean, whatever that is in today's NFL. Who's been disappointing that could could kind of shake that off the second half of the season and be better to fantasy managers? Well, I feel like we've seen the breakout now, right? For AJ Brown, guys like Kyle Pitts and Calvin Ridley. I know Ridley's been somewhat of a disappointment,
Starting point is 01:21:15 but I think his role in Arthur Smith's offense has like slowly evolved. This is a guy that was like a deep downfield dude for the Falcons last year. right so then Arthur Smith comes in and then for whatever reason like he's all of a sudden like this short area intermediate guy and it really wasn't working you know and so I think they've kind of sort of gone back to kind of mixing a little bit more deep shots in with Calvin Ridley you know for those folks who kind of like into those advanced stats like air yards have been like a huge problem for Calvin Ridley first you know four games of the season and then they've really kind of opened up the offense I think here over the last few weeks and Kyle Pitts has really been a fine too so I think Both of those guys will not only are they back on track, I think they'll continue with their, you know, hot recent production. And I think I'm expecting that to kind of go on and AJ Brown too, man. Like I don't know, people were like worried about AJ Brown.
Starting point is 01:22:09 It's like, hey, listen, this guy's coming off a double knee surgery. He'll be fine. Yeah. You know what I mean? So like he's looking beastly again. So yeah, I expect that to continue too. Yeah. And watch out for Atlanta, man.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Like I'm not saying watch out for Atlanta in all caps, but like lowercase watch out for Atlanta because, you know, I don't another big win for them last week. The dolphins are just abhorrent right now. We called it here. Atlanta over Miami, maybe they string some more wins out the rest of the year with the help of guys like Calvin Ridley and the young phenom from Florida. So talk to me about my roster here because I got a couple of decisions to make this weekend. Again, two-game slide.
Starting point is 01:22:46 It came down to Tyler Lockett on Monday night. He needed a seven-point performance for me to go to six-and-one. I ended up at five-and-two. the rest of his history. So should I panic about Tyler Lockett now with Gino? Yeah. Yeah. It's over frame.
Starting point is 01:23:03 With that. Like it's over over. Like he's a 10 point dude every week. 10 points like kind of ceiling in a PPR league. Yeah, maybe. You know? I mean, the last couple of games have just been abysmal.
Starting point is 01:23:14 You almost treat him like Tyler Lockett almost like a tight end where he's like touchdown dependent. Like he needs a touchdown to be productive. That's not a good way to live. because let's be real, the Seattle offense is not scoring a lot of touchdowns. You know what I'm saying, bro? So, yeah, I'm putting him on the bench
Starting point is 01:23:33 until I see something different. Damn, things were going so good for me. It just turned out to be a thing where Russell Wilson got hurt and he's not on my team and I didn't think about it that way, you know? Yeah, it's tough, man. How about Nick Chubb because he's hurt? He might come back this week. Is that what you're hearing?
Starting point is 01:23:50 You know, like, what am I doing there? Because you've got Deeranis Johnson as well, who somebody is almost certainly picked up in my league, like first thing as their last Thursday. What am I looking at with Nick Chubb? Well, here's the thing with Chubb. If he plays, he plays for your team. You know what I mean? Like, he's good.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And I think I had been on this program a lot of times saying, oh, the Shanahan run system is the best in the NFL. You know what, man? It might be this DeFancy run system now. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know it's all, it's all outside zone concepts and all that thing. but man like they're taking dudes like off the street like de ernest johnson boat out the fishing boat bro and like dudes rack it up 150 yards like no problems like that's that's nuts to me and i get it like
Starting point is 01:24:37 de ernest look good like you know all due respect like he did look capable um but tell me in any in any other run scheme de ernest johnson's not racking up 150 yards it's one of the best places to succeed in one way but in another way you're always going to be doubted you know unless you're a nick chub or you know cream but like you kind of feel like almost anybody can look productive in that system now i'm not taking anything away from this kid i'd want to see a bigger sample size but you might be right it might be the stefansky uh run system now uh because they're having the success that san francisco had with various backs uh two three years ago that they haven't been able to quite duplicate and Cleveland's now having that run. So I like I like that take a lot. How about
Starting point is 01:25:23 Khalil Herbert talking more ball carriers here? Can he create the similar output or is he a step up from Damien Williams? Like what am I looking at there in Chicago? I think he's a clear step up from Damien Williams. I've been really impressed. I mean let's be real like he took on Tampa Bay. He ran into the teeth of the defense and he came out the other side looking pretty good. I was very impressed by what he got done. against Tampa Bay's ferocious run defense like teams have teams have basically given up on running against Tampa Bay Chicago they don't know any different in Matt Nagy's you know lost in the woods and so they were like yeah we might as well try to
Starting point is 01:26:03 run with Khalil Herbert and it's better to be lucky than good because I'll say this I think they got lucky it's a terrible game plan trying to run against Tampa Bay but it worked it worked in Kalil Herber I think it's blind luck it's just so it's so dumb it's It's like, why would you try to run with your O-line, Chicago? Why would you try to run against Tampa Bay? Yeah, no. And established, like, defensive terror against the run game. Well, I didn't see the game, James, but I'm thinking of myself, like, maybe they were down so quick, so big that the box was light and they just said, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Like, we're going to, we're going to be productive and not. And they, and they managed to traumatize their quarterback anyways. so they you know it's like none of it works exactly yeah exactly I don't know I don't know what they're doing to Chicago man they've got issues um they got head coaching issues they've got a quarterback I don't know like the body language for fields right now sucks oh my god it's so bad it's so bad hey dude that's everybody knows the shot of him with his his head back on the bench just just raspberrying the air like he's just he's just over it already and I don't blame him because that is a chaotic situation to come into and play quarterback it's almost it's almost in a lot of ways for
Starting point is 01:27:22 him worse than like the jacksonville situation i feel like oh 100 oh yeah absolutely absolutely i mean there's i don't know it's kind of funny because like it's kind of about expectations i think the hype had built for justin fields a lot um plus they got like a ready made defense so they were ready to rock and roll right yeah um jacksonville's a project man it's a huge project and there were no expectations and i think Trevor Lawrence has been yeah and it's Jacksonville you know so like you know and I think Trevor Lawrence has looked uh you know decent like I think you could see the seedlings there of like a great quarterback you know as Nick seriani would say you put the soil and the fertilizer and then there's like a plant that's going to pop up and right now uh you know Trevor Lawrence is
Starting point is 01:28:06 looking like a little a little plant so hey can I ask you about like that that internet that's like the weirdest interview and like I was thinking about like Okay, this is a head coach trying to lead like a losing ass to like two and five, but grown men. Like can you imagine him walking in and giving you Chris Long that speech? You'd be like, bro, what the, what are you talking about? I've heard way worse, man. I really have.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I mean, like coaches go deep in their bag when you're losing like, you know, like an acronym for something or a catchy phrase is going to win, win you ball games. Like run the football and mix up your, your, your defensive scheme a little bit more. Hey, Cowboy Reed has an issue behind the, the, the, the Tri-Caster there. Cowboy Reed has Dalton Schultz, Mark Andrews, and Kyle Pitts. Is that correct? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Dalton Schultz is currently fifth in tight end. Kyle Pitts is seventh and Mark Andrews is second. So, James, who should I start? Who should I trade and who should I sit of those three tight ends? I have to ask a question. So I know the names and it's fine. But is this like a real life situation or is this like a hypothetical? No, he has three tight ends.
Starting point is 01:29:22 My guy. My guy. Yeah. Make a trade. Yeah. Make a trade. First of all, what you're doing? Drafted Kyle Pitts and Mark Andrews.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Like, what are you doing out here in the fantasy streets? He really did that, really? Oh, did that. 100%. And he's managing some of my other teams that I don't pay so much attention to. And this guy drafted seven tight ends. Nobody's been taking it. but I assume that to you say I should trade.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Who should you trade, Co? Listen, I would say, I always say this. You've got two great ones in Mark Andrews and Kyle Pitts. I think Dalton Schultz will, I think that'll level out a little bit. You have to trade one of Kyle Pitts or Mark Andrews because they've got the best name value. I think every one of your league is probably going to be hip to the game. Like, why would I trade for a guy like Dalton Schultz, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I get, but you would trade for Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 01:30:13 You would trade for Mark Andrews. And I think for my money, I probably keep Kyle Pitts. And trade Mark Andrews. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Mark Andrew is going to be a little bit more up and down. Yes. Than Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I think Kyle Pitts has carved out a role. First of all, like not only has a tight end, but just straight up as an outside wide receiver, like he's going to get the targets each and every week. And Atlanta's defense stinks. Yeah. Which means they'll have to throw the ball a lot. I like Kyle Pitts moving forward. And don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Mark Andrews is an absolute stud baller, but if you're trying to get value, I would probably try to trade away Mark Andrews. Okay, there you have it. You know, just sign another tight end, cowboy. I mean, if you signed two more tight ends, just break a record, dude. It's like, yeah, I got the opposite problem with running backs, but we'll talk about that another time. I've got like one and a half of them.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Hey, James Coe, appreciate the time and happy hunting this weekend, man. Yeah, man. Happy Halloween, dude. Okay, you too. See you.

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