Green Light with Chris Long - Stanford Steve! NFL Wildcard Races, NFL Week 13 Best Bets, CFB Playoff Predictions!

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Stanford Steve talks playoffs for both the NFL and College Football. Chris, Macon and Steve go through the NFL's wildcard race - the teams that are in the drivers seat - and then head to the college r...anks to go over the Heisman Trophy race and the potential College Football Playoff Matchups. (1:43) - MNF Recap: Chicago Bears vs Minnesota Vikings (15:15) - NFL Wild Card Race Updates (43:15) - College Football: Heisman Trophy Race, College Football Playoff Scenarios and Mike Elko at Texas A&M (1:18:18) - NFL Week 13 Best Bets Want to win a chance to watch the NFL Conference Championships with Chris Long and the Green Light crew in Studio J? Enter below: MILLERLITE.COM/GREENLIGHTSWEEPS This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Use the GameTime app for all your ticketing needs. Create an account and use code GREENLIGHT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download the GameTime app today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long, a production of Yote House Media.: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And the ones that we haven't talked about yet. The two best games of the week maybe. Yeah. The way the Niners match up with them, this is the first time they've seen all those guys. I think I really, obviously, we touched on the Hertz injury early on in the season. But this Lane and Fletcher Cox deal ain't good either. It's not good. I believe that we'll get Lane back.
Starting point is 00:00:24 You know, whether it's this week or the next week, I don't think it's going to be a long-term thing. I don't know, you know, what to think about Fletcher, right? But at the end of the day, my biggest concern about the Eagles is you're going to have play them twice, okay? The Greenlight podcast welcomes you. A full Stanford Seve show for you today. We recap Monday night football, the Bears Vikings game, an NFC North matchup. Matt Iber Fluses' first win in the NFC North. We also talk NFL playoffs, the AFC in NFC wildcard races, who has the best.
Starting point is 00:01:01 track with their remaining schedules, which teams are in the driver's seat, which teams need to do a lot for themselves and need a little help from some others. And then we get into college football. We've got the Heisman Trophy race. We talk Mike Elko to Texas A&M and we talk to college football playoff scenarios. What teams could be in might be in depending on the outcomes of these coverage championships. And then it's NFL lock time. We give you liens and best bets for every game on the week 13 NFL slate. Should you bet on the Falcons, does the Broncos Texans game go over, where you should put your money in the Philly, San Francisco game?
Starting point is 00:01:37 All of that and a little more. Please enjoy. We will see you Friday. Pete Rose, joining us now on the podcast. Nice lid, Steve. He's got a white hat. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome.
Starting point is 00:02:22 How are you? I'm great. How are you guys? We're good. Better know that we've seen you. I might have a new enemy. And you guys might have a new enemy. you guys might be right in line with me.
Starting point is 00:02:30 What is it? The Virginia Tech fan base. Really? Losers. Wow. Do they get mad if you pick against them? Holy cow. To their credit, you were wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Correct. Enjoy it. Yeah. But like, oh my world. They don't have a whole lot else going on, Steve. What time was that game? Four o'clock? It was 3.30.
Starting point is 00:02:54 It was over by four. I was just to say, I didn't have it. I didn't get any tweets until four. over when they trotted me out there for a community service award at the end of the third quarter. Bro. Bro, it was over.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It was overly. Yeah, it was ugly. And in fact, we just, I just found out making, what was the quote from one of our recruits that came to the tech game? Yeah, we had a corner in town from Oscar Smith. He said, overall
Starting point is 00:03:24 UVA is not a bad school. I like it and my coaches have history there. May God guide them. in the long run. Is this the first recruit to ever pray for a school? Honestly, I don't know how far back you have to go to find another one, but this was not the day for us. And it wasn't the day for Virginia Cavaliers in general, the fans, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Like, I went to Dirty Nellies afterwards, our spot. Steve, Macon was there. He was in rare form. A hokey stuffed animal ended up in a toilet. I don't know who did that. I don't either. people are pissing on the hokey uh the hokey stuffed animal nobody's copped to it i don't know if his read i don't know what was making i was somebody at the bar but it was just it was a train
Starting point is 00:04:08 wreck of a day and uh another commonwealth cup goes to the virginia tech hokey's but ultimately who cares yeah dude exactly exactly i care like i cared a lot last week i went and talked to the team and told him how much i cared but i'm i'm over it right now okay for anybody listening who might see me at a bar and be like, oh, and four or whatever you want to say to me if you're a Virginia Tech alum, I don't give a fuck, okay? There's bigger fish to fry. It's basketball season. It's basketball season.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah, we got the Texas Aggies in town tonight. So on the topic of Virginia football, and we're going to get into college football in a bit, we got a lot of pro football to talk about. I just want to point this fun fact out because I live in Bronco Mendon Hall's old house. Okay. And Bronco Menon Hall is a really good football. coach he took us the orange bowl he took us the orange bowl without internet at his house like we we have no internet we've had no internet the time the whole time we're living there we're out in the
Starting point is 00:05:10 sticks there's just we had to get comcast to lay like a mile of fiber should have disclosed that bronco yeah and uh and all i can think about is the fact yeah it's hard to watch film at home and that sort of things but i look back at bronco mendon hall's tenure it's pretty incredible what he was able to do here with no internet at his house. He must have been in heaven, though. Just riding the horse is around the ranch, no internet to speak up. Exactly. No distractions.
Starting point is 00:05:35 But shout out to Bronco. We're going to talk about the Broncos in a couple of minutes. We're going to be looking at the AFC and NFC wildcar pictures. But the first thing we got to do is talk about that epic rock fight, Steve, last night on Monday night football. Buddy, these prime time unders is free money. it's the only thing I've given out besides locks we could probably get to those I'm sure in a little bit yeah you like yeah picks on golf game they haven't been well winners with vamp hell not well he's not well it's very quiet playing ride home but uh the one thing I've been able to hit on our ESPN bet show
Starting point is 00:06:14 is every Monday that I'm on I've just said giving the under and then somebody told me it was 12 and 1 last night and I'm like let's go 13 and 1 and I think if you combine Sunday night and Monday and Monday night, it's something absurd. Last time I checked, it was over 70% prime time in general this year. So, like, insane click that this thing's hitting at. And we got on the under last night. Steve, I thread the needle.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I tease both teams with the Cowboys. I saw that. I saw you post that. You must have been super bored over the holiday. No, I'm not bored. I'm just a heater. So everything I'm doing is working. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:51 All right, good. Yeah, everything is that. It's a good time to get hot. Another John Gannon parley hit Sunday, Steve. I had a six-leg parlay. Needed overtime for two of the legs. I needed one more sleigh tackle and one more D'Andre Swift-Cary. They took eight plays on that fucking last drive to give him the ball.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It was incredible. And then last night, it came down to Justin Fields over 34 and a half longest completion. DJ Moore, the last pass he throws, dude. Just an absolute joy to be a guy with a Caesar's app right now. The traitors at Caesars, they know who I am. I'm not coming. I'm here. So let's talk about the Bears, man, because if you're coming out of this game as a Bears fan,
Starting point is 00:07:35 I think despite the 12-10 score, you've got to be pretty happy. No doubt. No, no. And we talked about it yesterday, you know, pre-game. I was locked in the Lions Bears the week before just because I wanted to see fields. I wanted to see the Lions in a game they were supposed to win. super impressed. I know Bears fans were bummed that they blew a double-digit lead. What was it? Up
Starting point is 00:07:58 12 with four minutes left. But they competed. And I said last night, if Fields played like he did against Detroit, the Bears are going to win that game. He had two pretty costly fumbles, but there was enough there, I
Starting point is 00:08:14 think, to be happy about it. I think at times he was better with decision-making. I agree. He obviously has DJ more. He likes that. He's got commit. Run-game seems a little shaky, but I love Rochon Johnson, love them come out of Texas. And the defense has been awesome. Against the run, you know, you got Fluse calling the signals over there, not afraid at all.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And it's, I mean, somebody I saw a tweet last night, too, it's like, I'd love to see the market for fields. And I'm sorry, there's still enough for me. I'm going to give that kid, I'm going to give that kid the better for the doubt because I've seen him do it. and that's the way I go. You look at those two picks. I get everybody's going to keep talking about as long as the Panthers keep losing. It's a fun thing to talk about, right?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Because we got big names. We have the top guys you want at the quarterback position. But I look at some pieces you could get around there, and I'd take another shot with Fields. Dude, I really like Fields. I haven't been shy about saying that I've tried to keep one foot on the bandwagon so I can jump off if I need to. But he showed me enough.
Starting point is 00:09:23 every time you get down to his last chance, including coming off this injury, and I think very openly auditioning for the job, I thought they were conservative early, but he did everything they asked him to do. It was like, let's get the ball out, DJ Moore. You know, I thought
Starting point is 00:09:39 the consecutive plays early in that game across his body on third and two, evading the rush and hitting Herbert, the very next play. You know, I thought in situations where you could have had points, it wasn't him that kept. them from having points. You know, two fumbles, you can't do that, right? But I thought a lot of times
Starting point is 00:09:58 like a second and four down in the red zone, they got like one or two guys out in a route. So these are situations where I thought he did a good job of burning the ball, even that last drive, two sacks he could have took easily, found a way to get out of them, get rid of the ball, and then poised enough to deliver that strike to DJ more. I thought he showed a lot of really good stuff. They ran some read option out of pistol. You got some QB run on third down. Like, you see. still see what's so tantalizing about him. And then he did all the things you asked him to do last night and didn't really put you in trouble throwing the football.
Starting point is 00:10:31 The fumbles, you got to improve there. But listen, this is the thing that I'm most excited about with the Bears. I watched it last night. Defense obviously played well. But when I watched the all 22, every level of defense guys were making plays. And it started with Jalen Johnson, who was a guy who was asking for money. Well, that pick early in the game was fucking awesome, dude. It was a great play.
Starting point is 00:10:53 They got a bunch of turnovers. And he caused another one on fourth and three. He had a great break on a ball, could have been to pick six. The back end guys tackled, brisker, him. And I think like with Russian coverage, we laughed at Chicago. I'm not saying we here in this room. But as the general public, it was like, oh, you should have got Chase Young. You have two for Montez Sweat.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Who is Montes Sweat? And by the way, I think he's really good. I thought he was the best edge guy there in Washington. And I think that showed out, dude. Like, you know, last night, he had a sack on the very first drive. He caused the pick. He caused the near pick six. That D-line got after Minnesota when they got in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I thought those guys up front were great. And then the backers, man, T.J. Edwards, a guy that the Eagles would like to still have, was all over the field. You talk about forcing a fourth down. You know that play where they're motioning the back across the formation, full speed. He's got to run with him in man. And then makes the play on that swing pass out near the sideline. But T.J. Edwards beating.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I want to say it was Darissau to the spot and making that play. All those guys played great. And I just want to say this, you know, like Ian Cunningham, Ryan Poles, you know, the Justin Fields thing. They got a lot to think about. But when you look at the return on investment with Montez Sweat, when you look at T.J. Edwards, when you look at Darnow Wright, Braxton Jones, DJ Moore, they've done a pretty good job. The Claypool thing, I can't get taste out of my mouth. But Miami also, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:19 took a flyer on him. He hasn't done shit. So I think that's a Chase Claypool problem. I think the Bears have done a nice job in spots, and they deserve some credit after last night. Yeah, the one thing with sweat, are you guys old enough to remember Alonzo Spellman? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I mean, he was the guy, I just, arms, like his arms in a uniform were just incredible. And then sweat, they might be longer, not as thick. Yeah. But like that big 98 in a bear's uniform, I mean, when he's coming off the edge, I just the reach these guys have and knowing how much of a pain in the ass it is to try and block guys with long arms. And then the strength he also brings to the table is just a bastard to even think about, not a let alone do at that level.
Starting point is 00:13:07 So, yeah, all those guys showed out. I thought they had an agenda. I did have a thing in the back of my mind like, hey, I love the Dobbs story. I really do. but at some point he's going to show his true colors and why he's been on so many teams. And yes, there was a bunch of tip balls. But hey, that's to the bear's credit. That's because they're playing fast.
Starting point is 00:13:29 They're anticipating things. D. Lyman getting their hands up. You know, when you don't expect it, it's just awesome to see in a day and age where people just want to talk about the damn two draft picks, but a team going out in prime time and playing as hard as they can. Addison had a tough day. I think he could have helped him out in some spots. So, you know, the drop led to a pick.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I think Justin Jefferson's the guy on the sideline. He catches that ball. And they ended up with a touchdown on that drive anyways. But, you know, like they're not at full strength. And as you said, Josh Dobbs eventually has got to come back down to Earth. Yeah. But like, you know, I do think this team's still going to be in it. And I think the thing I'm worried about, though, more than anything, is after the game,
Starting point is 00:14:09 all it took was that performance to talk about out of the buy, this quarterback conversation is wide open, whether it's Hall or Mullins or whatever. So I think like the Vikings, as good as they are and as well-coached they are, they're a bit of an unknown commodity down the stretch. This podcast is brought to you by Cash App, the all-in-one app for spending, sending, and setting easy-to-track savings goals. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending,
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Starting point is 00:15:27 Like, I can't figure this out. We're going to talk about the AFC in a second. But in the NFC, it's a bunch of just mid-tier teams hovering around five or six wins. And in the AFC, I can see a couple teams clearly coming out of it, but I don't know. And so we really broke it down. But I think the number one step is, fellas, who do you think wins the South? because, you know, like, I don't think both those teams get in. I don't think you're going to have an NFC South winner and a wild card from there.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But when you look at the schedules, it's kind of a coin flip. And I think it comes down to that last game of the season, hate week, week 18, in New Orleans. And if you're New Orleans, you feel like, hey, we outplayed these guys in a lot of areas and lost that game. But I just don't trust the Saints, man. No, I don't either. And it's funny, you know, the Falcons and the Saints. you know, are the teams. I can't get there with Tampa. They're going to be a pain in the butt the rest of the way,
Starting point is 00:16:24 knowing how hard they play. But, I mean, you look at Ritter, you know, Sunday in a big spot, you know, it's a division game. And I thought, I thought Arthur Smith did a great job of finally distributing the ball, Bejohn, getting the ball. And that's what everybody wanted. I know all the fantasy people were happy, but I'm just looking at the kid and what he brings to the table and to being able to him showcase. that in that defense, I mean, not a lot of big names at all, but I think they play to their liking of knowing that they don't have, you know, this star-studded offense.
Starting point is 00:16:59 So that win, getting them to three and O in the division, I think it's a huge step. And I get it. It's five and six, but that's as good as it gets in that division. And I still trust Arsler Smith. I know people want, you know, the ball in everybody's hands. There's only one football.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And, you know, they got a lot of top draft picks up there, Drake London got more involved last week. But I trust that more than I do the dink and dunk offense with Camara and the Saints. So I would go with Atlanta, and I'll admit a lot of it has to do with them being already 3 and 0 in the division. Well, the touchdowns they've had over the last 32 drives or something, we were talking about this coming out of Sunday. They've got James Winston and Taysam Hill's names on them. You know, like passing touchdowns, these guys, Derek Carr has not delivered. and, you know, like, that was a pretty big, we're in it to win right now kind of statement from them coming in the season.
Starting point is 00:17:53 We debated whether or not you should be making a move like that or you should kick the can down the road on the rebuild. But they haven't really gotten either thing done. They're going to be kind of in the middle in that purgatory kind of area. And either team that wins this division is going to go to Dallas. Okay. So like that's going to be a problem, right? because Dallas Dallas is that best wildcard team unless something crazy happens. And then it might be the Eagles or something like that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So if you look at the Falcons, they got the jets on the road this weekend. They got the bucks. They got at the Panthers. So like they have a chance to be two and one or three and oh out of this stretch. And then they've got the Colts, Bears, and Saints. So the Saints is that that's the big matchup. And then the Saints have the Lions, Panthers Giants. So, you know, a chance to be two and one as well.
Starting point is 00:18:43 And then they're at the Rams and at the Bucks, which to me are toss-up games. The Bucks match up pretty well against them and have done a good job against those guys. So you have to come out of these next four games, in my opinion, probably three and one. And then you get the Falcons at the end of the season. But the bottom line is the eight-win team here is probably shit out a lot. I think it takes nine to win this division, maybe eight. If you're the eight-win team, what we're now talking about is two spots for four teams. and the four teams are Minnesota, Seattle, Green Bay, and L.A.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And you could add an eight-win runner-up in the NFC South into that equation. Let's say there's five eight-win teams, which is not the question. I've broken this thing down as closely as I can with the schedules coming up. There's some pretty interesting tie breaks coming out of this thing. I think, like, if you're Green Bay, you're going to control your destiny and get a chance to play Minnesota again. if you take care of business in some of these games that you should win.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So you've got to feel good there. If you're the Rams, you feel good because you've beaten Seattle twice. That tie breaks going to you. If you're the Saints, you don't feel good because you blew that 17-0-0 lead to Green Bay. So, like, you're really up Shits Creek there.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And you've got Rams and Saints upcoming. So I think the Rams feel good about their chances probably, like as far as, like, controlling their destiny. As do, I think, the Packers and, And, you know, however this thing shakes out, this is the interesting thing to me, the lions. They're probably going to be waiting for one of these teams, like a wild card team. They're going to win that division.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No matter how bad they play at times, I just don't think the Packers can catch them or the Vikings. But think about this. You haven't hosted a playoff game in like forever. And you're about to do that. You haven't done it in this building. It could be Green Bay coming to town. They just beat you. it could be the Rams coming to town.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Could you imagine if Matt Stafford and Sean McVeyer coming to town and try to beat Jared Gough, how juicy that matchup would be and how scary that match it would be for them. And then Minnesota, you'd have to play them three times in a month. Nobody wants to do that. Seattle, they're the team that's played you tough, team that's beating you,
Starting point is 00:20:57 scored a lot of points on you. How's the defense look right now? So whoever comes out of this, there is a chance that one of these teams wins a playoff game. I'm not saying they win two. So if you look at it, which team do you like the most out of these four? Let's say Minnesota, Seattle, Green Bay, and the Rams.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Seattle. Those teams have W-2 next to their names, one their last two. Two teams have L-2. And I like the two that are playing well. You've got to play your best ball now between Thanksgiving and Christmas. It's Green Bay. It's L.A. Steve's guy, Kyron Williams, came back, 140-some yards rushing,
Starting point is 00:21:34 60-some yards receiving with two touchdowns. that's a scary little offense with Stafford, Kyrn, Puka, Cooper. Yeah. And in Green Bay, I like the way the schedule breaks after this week, which is home KC, which could be tricky for KC.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's going to be, I mean, that's going to tell us a lot about Green Bay, right? Like we're starting to say, hey, Green Bay is a real football team. Jordan loves looking better. This is going to be a tough test. And if you look at Green Bay,
Starting point is 00:22:02 the thing you alluded to is the schedule breaks right. Like after this game, if they lose this game, they're going to be five and seven. But then they got at Giants, the Bucks, at Carolina, at the Vikings, and Chicago. So if you can get through this next four games with a three and one record, you just break it into chunks like that and you say, hey, if we can do that, we're going to be eight and seven with a chance at two and oh to finish the season in division,
Starting point is 00:22:31 tough games, but teams we know and teams with either a quarterback problem, or a team that may not be trying to win a game in Chicago. So Green Bay breaks nicely for them. And then the Rams, I think the big thing is they got Cleveland and Baltimore coming up. This weekend's game is enormous for the Rams. Because if you lose this game, you got five wins. You're trying to get to nine wins to feel really good, right? So you need to win four more games after Cleveland if you lose that game.
Starting point is 00:23:02 You're at Baltimore. Washington's a toss up for me. New Orleans, I probably lean L.A., but it's a toss-up. You're at the Giants. That's a win, and then you're at San Francisco. Which may be a win with San Francisco not playing for anything. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like, we'll see how that shakes out. They might not play for anything. Absolutely, but they could also knock the Rams out of the playoffs. You know? Like, there's something to playing your guys for a little bit. I know that Brandon Staley gotten some hot water for that, but I also think it's just Brandon Staley. So, you know, Mike Williams gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You get hurt any week. I think there's a lot to look forward to for Green Bay, the Rams with the tie breaks that we talked about. I think Seattle is in trouble because they're six and five, but the next three weeks are yikes. It's at Cowboys, at Niners, hosting the Eagles, and then they've got at Tennessee, Pittsburgh, and at Arizona. The thing they can take solace in here is they want to split, right?
Starting point is 00:24:00 They want to go three and three. You got to beat Tennessee. Arizona might be looking at draft pitch. at the end of the season. But that Pittsburgh game, that's the one you got to circle for the Seahawks. And they are hosting Kenny Pickett and the Steelers. So that's something they could look at. And then Minnesota, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Are they going to be favored when they go to Vegas to play the Raiders in two weeks? I don't know. How much are they going to be favored by when they go to Cincinnati? And then you finish with Lions, Packers, Lions. So I think Minnesota is in some trouble. They do get Justin Jefferson back. That's all good. They got maybe one of the best coaches in the league.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But I don't love it for Minnesota or Seattle. I lean a little bit more towards Green Bay and L.A. for the reasons we talked about. And Seattle, that final three-game stretch, that could be a five-game skid, which is going to be hard to bounce back from for anybody. Minnesota, run Madison a little more? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:56 10 for 52. Yeah. 21 years. I like Chandler, too. Yeah, Chandler's a good player. Chandler's the new hotness. But Madison was picking up good. yardage last night, chunks on Monday night. I don't know. Green Bay will probably have Aaron Jones back.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They play a lot better when Aaron Jones is healthy and they have a one-two punch with Dylan. I'm with you. I lean Green Bay, L.A. Four spots, two teams, Steve. Who do you like out of Minnesota, Seattle, Green Bay, and L.A.? I still trust Seattle with Pete, that culture, what they have. I knew Gino wasn't going to be as good as he was last year, but they're still room for to take. and they're always good for one of these upsets on the road. They already did it at Detroit earlier this year. When you look back, how the heck that you touched on it,
Starting point is 00:25:41 how the heck did that happen? My issue with the Rams is that offense is so brittle to me. When you look at Stafford, you look at Cup, you look at Puka, you know, it just, even Kyron, I love all those guys. I make sure I watch the Rams every week just because I love what McVeigh brings to the table. They were awesome again.
Starting point is 00:26:03 this past week, but I just wonder if they could, you know, stay, stay intact through this run. You touched on the Cleveland game. That game's enormous. You know how pissed off Cleveland's going to be knowing what they had. You know, they're down 14 nothing. They claw back. They get in the game and a tough place to play like mile high. And then they, you know, it falls apart and DTR gets knocked out and it goes by the wayside. So the Rams I am very wary of. I feel like Green Bay is a little too eye candy-ish for me to last two weeks where their backs were already up against the wall, but now this is where we find out when you grow as a team. So to me, that Packers deal is more about the coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It took them a while to figure out, I think, where they wanted all those weapons for love. You know, your guy Wicks, I mean, he's played every position. They feel like Watson's a deep guy. Now they're moving around Reed, the Michigan State kid, and it looks like love. way more comfortable. I think Musgraves a stud. Love him coming out to Oregon State. So I I'm wary of that. If
Starting point is 00:27:09 they were ever to pull this off against Kansas City, now you're cooking. But I still trust Seattle and I guess I would go the Rams, but I'm wary. So I would go with the two NFC West teams out of that right now. Don't feel great
Starting point is 00:27:25 about it, but I mean, that's where we are. Are you guys fans of all these teams making the playoffs? No, listen, I'm never going to turn down more football, but there was a time, I think, when, like, Sam, or not Sam Howell, Sam Howe, Sam Howe, Sam Howe, Sam Howe, Sam Howe is Taylor Heineke. When Heineke was going toe to toe to toe with Brady at the end of that first super wildcar weekend, and I'm like, man, I don't need all this football. Like, I would be so much more into this if it wasn't the fifth fucking game of the day. But I do think it's good for the game. It's more games.
Starting point is 00:28:00 It's more guys that get to cash in at the end of the season and say, hey, we were a playoff team. As a guy that never went to the playoffs before I escaped St. Louis for eight years, like I don't wish that on anybody. So I want guys to feel what that feels like. And I honestly think because of who the lions are, any of these teams could win a playoff game. And so, you know, like whether you like Green Bay or L.A. or Seattle or even Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:28:26 they all pose problems if they get. get in for one week. And so that's fun. It's good for the fans and the whole thing. Looking at the AFC, I think it's a little more clear cut because really we're looking at three spots. If I had to call it, I think Houston and Pittsburgh have to get in. If they don't get in, if either of these teams don't get in, it's a big disappointment. And especially Houston, we've made a big deal about Houston. I really like Houston. I think they could actually get in the playoffs and make some noise, right? But they've got DTR, Levis twice, Sleepy Tim Boyle, and Gardner Minshu on the schedule, the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So C.J. Stroud, he is him. I agree. But if you want to be him with a capital age, you've got to take these guys to the playoffs against his slated teams you're going to play. And this Denver game's big. It's big for Houston. It's big for Denver. Because Denver could be in this thing. They're six and five right now. They have the easiest schedule left of all. all these guys that are stacked up in the AFC with six or seven wins. They go to Houston, to the Chargers, to Detroit. That's tough, right? But then they finish with New England, L.A. at home, and Vegas at home. And they have a tiebreaker over Cleveland, which was enormous. So, like, I actually think the third team very well could be Denver.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You know, like, so if you're going to Pittsburgh, it's the same thing. There's seven and fourth. There is a scenario where they could win the division. Okay, I'm not saying it's the most likely thing in the world, but Baltimore's schedule is no cakewalk. And then you've got Pittsburgh with Arizona, New England, at Indy, who now, and they're in the conversation, but they just lost Jonathan Taylor. They're laying a point on the road against the Titans. Like, look out. Pittsburgh has Arizona, New England, at Indy, Cincinnati, at Seattle, and then at Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:30:24 there is a chance that they could be 5-0 out of this stretch going into Baltimore. It's a small chance. They could be 4-1. I think that's relatively likely. And then they go to Baltimore and they could play for the division. And they have the tie break over Baltimore, right? So they could end up with the same record. They could sweep them in division.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I know Steelers fans are like, this sounds like a fever dream. But it could happen. And I have not jumped up this bandwagon. what we saw from the offense this weekend makes me feel better about it. They are seven and four. So I like Houston and Pittsburgh getting it for sure. As for the third team,
Starting point is 00:31:03 what do you guys think? You got the bills, you got the Colts, you got Cleveland, and you got Denver. I think you said it. This week is huge. If Denver can get this game in Houston, I trust Sean Payton. I mean, they've won one, two, three,
Starting point is 00:31:18 four, five games in a row. Chargers, it was a bad pick by Steve to lay three and a half with Baltimore against L.A. He got bailed out. He got lucky. Baltimore is different without Mark Andrews. Just to note this, New Orleans missed like kind of an easy field goal to get you the cover. Oh, that would have pushed.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I noted that. My guy in New England, the kicker missed kind of an easy field goal to send that game to over time where I would have been. No question. In play for a win. I don't know. Give me God's team. trending in the right direction and they're on a mission.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Dude, look at their schedule. Even if they split, they end up with nine wins and they have tie breaks. If they beat Houston, that's a big tie break. You know, Cleveland, for me, that's tough, right? I mean, it really is because you might have lost Miles Garrett. You have quarterback issues. You do have the tie break over Indy, and that's what makes me think with, you know, the Jonathan Taylor issue.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And it's just a tall task. You want to win with Gardner Minshue down the stretch. It sounds good. Even with the schedule, it's going to be tough. I think Cleveland, and then don't forget about Buffalo. Like Buffalo's six and six, but it's not out of the question that they do this. And I don't mean to peddle hope to the hopeless. But like, you've got Kansas City and Dallas.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You're six and six. You really have to get 10 wins, right, to feel really good about this. So you need to find four wins in the next five. five games. Now, the way they played, you know, the last three games at the Chargers, the pads at home, and at the Finns, I could see them sweeping those games. Like, I really like their matchup with Miami. I think with everything on the line, it's like, fuck it, throw it out the window. So what they need to do is they need to split the next two. If they can split the next two, they could go to the playoffs. I feel really good about that. But at that point, then it comes
Starting point is 00:33:17 down to tie breaks and that sort of thing. You've got to watch other teams. So, and they do, not own the tie break over Denver, which is a big yikes. Big yikes losing that game. Losing the pads, losing to Denver. Like, you look back at this season, they might miss playoffs because of situations like those. The fact that they lost in New England is still just, I know the Denver one was prime time.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I mean, I was there on the field for all those shenanigans, but still the New England game sticks out to me. I was asked yesterday, I think it was plus 350, are the bill's worth a shot to make the playoffs. I said yes. And it's to do with what I've seen. They scored 32 against the Jets, 34, and they lost this past week. I think you've seen the changes.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I think you've seen the commitment to the run game, which I love. I thought Josh Allen was freaking phenomenal. I know he threw a pick. I get it, but he was awesome at Philly. And that's as tough of a spot as it is. I get it. Arrowhead fans, you're going to get mad, but Philly just went to your place.
Starting point is 00:34:19 and going to Philly on that spot, knowing the pressure, he was as good as he's been all year. So with that capability on the offensive side with Buffalo, and I get it, they keep losing guys on defense, and it's not getting easier, I coincide that with the teams that are in front of them. You touched on it, the Colts, the Browns, even the Steelers. Those guys haven't been through this whole thing and done it,
Starting point is 00:34:42 whereas the bills have had their backs against the wall and have responded in the past before. So I think the bills are worth a shot there. the Texans are fascinating to me because look at those teams that they got to play, they are all paining the asses on defense. When you look at what they got, I mean, I absolutely, by the way, I love what Denver's bringing to the table because they're just saying, all right, the rules, fine, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:07 We're going to come out and intimidate your ass. I mean, the hits that they're taken, I know it's the wrong thing. Dirty in some ways, I love it. It's refreshing to me to see that there's an instigator on the field. and I think that team's thriving off of it. I really do. That secondary takes nothing from nobody. But I think they need that to create an edge.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And you've seen it with the way they've played. But you look at the Texans, Broncos, at Jets, at Titans. That's a pain of the ass. The Browns probably going to still be in it by then. Garrett might should be healthy by again by then. Then you got the Titans again. I just, I worry how that young of a nucleus battles
Starting point is 00:35:44 and first-time coaching staff. So I would say, side. Buffalo is worth a shot and I do trust Denver. I think Russ has been way better with the football. I think the coach is paid off and you saw a buy-in there, you know, probably not all the way Sean Payton wants because no one ever can make him that happy. But those are the two that stick out to me because of the other flaws of the other team most importantly. A lot to sort out. We are down the home stretch where everything means a lot. And, you know, this slate Sunday, not to be a slate complainer.
Starting point is 00:36:19 As the week's going on, I like a little bit more. We'll talk about that during the locks. A lot of buy teams. But there's a lot of buys, and, you know, there's a lot of games that aren't real exciting on the surface, but they all have playoff implications. Not all of them, but a lot of them. I mean, you know, Carolina, I think, plays Tampa Bay. So, you know, they can't all be something.
Starting point is 00:36:39 The NFL can't nail it every Sunday. But here's an interesting one. We were talking about the MVP race. Matt had like five stat lines for five quarterbacks who were in the conversation. And there were no names attached to him. And I got to tell you guys, we sat there guessing who each player was. Now he included rushing stats and that sort of thing. I was like, well, two guys with a lot of picks.
Starting point is 00:37:02 That's Josh Allen. That's Tua. The guy with a bunch of rushing yards. That's, you know, that's Lamar Jackson. And honestly, the most shocking thing was the best stat line. And if you're just looking at it and not attaching a face or name to it, it was Dak Prescott. Yeah. And so we all looked at each other and like, nah, that can't be.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Like, we're just, we can't give MVP to Dak. And I don't know why that is. I think it's probably because we just don't think he's as good as the other guys, which is kind of unfair because to say production business, he's producing at a high level. I'm actually not as down on DAC as some people are. Like, you know, some people will never give him credit. I actually think he's a pretty good player. I don't think he's a blue-chip guy.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He's in that class of guys below there that can win you ball games and when you playoff games. Now he's got to go prove it, right? Which hasn't been like kind of his calling card. But the MVP conversation to me is about a combination of things, right? It's about the best player, best team, and a guy that's valuable. As simple as that is, I mean, you know, if you went MVP and you included every player in the league, you know, relative value might take us somewhere where we don't want to go. It might be somebody on a bad team or something like that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 But looking at this crop of guys, we came up with Matt actually coined this phrase where I think it's really good as the Minshu metric. And it's basically like if all these quarterbacks fell off a cliff this week, whose team has the biggest drop off when Gardner Minshue plays for your team? Kansas City. I agree. And that's why I think. And Baltimore. We talked about Baltimore, too.
Starting point is 00:38:45 To me, it's Kansas City or Baltimore. So to me, these two guys, especially if you look down the stretch at Mahomes' schedule, and I think he finished it with a flurry. Like if there was a time to buy them low, it's been the last couple weeks, somewhere between the Denver game and the last loss. Baltimore, with Lamar, I think he's been tremendous passing the football this year. I think that offense looked a lot better. And what they did Sunday night is they adjusted.
Starting point is 00:39:09 They looked totally different. but again they looked dangerous. The points weren't that high. But the question is, like, you know, does that answer the whole problem? Is it that simple? Is it like if you plug in a guy, what's the biggest drop off?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Then we're just giving it to Mahomes for the next 10 years? No, because there are years where Mahomes in the past has had Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey. And he has a number one defense, well, not a number one defense. It depends on if it's, it's Baltimore or if it's Kansas City, but that's why I put those two, two guys in the same category because they're so valuable to their teams. Like, if you put Garder Minchew on Miami,
Starting point is 00:39:50 I think they're still rolling. Okay. If you put Gardner Minchew in Dallas, fucking Gardner Minchew beat Dallas when he was on the Eagles for this. Yeah, he might be good for this exercise. Yeah. If you put Minchew on the Eagles, I still think the Eagles are rolling. We've seen that. So like not taking anything away from Jalen, if you wanted to give this award to a guy who, who's just got that it factor and he's a winner. I think you could argue that Jaling could be the guy. But I think if I'm being fair and I'm taking the homerism out of it, the two most valuable guys to their teams are Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I think Lamar is asked to do more. Yeah. I really do. I mean, I don't think Pacheco gets any credit. That dude is an absolute war daddy what he's asked for less to do for that Chiefs team. And watching him in person, I was blown. I mean, you watch it on TV, how hard he runs and what he brings to the table.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Seeing it in person, it's a whole different level. So in the most minuscule of ways, I say Lamar and the Ravens in that question. Dude, Pacheco, man, like if it's not for him, they don't have as dynamic a screen game, which has been huge for them. I mean, you can't, you know, I was talking to Rosillo a week or two ago about maybe what's changed. And I was like, well, I want to look at their screens and see how efficient they've been. there because it's something they've always done a good job out. Well, guess what? They're near the top of the league again.
Starting point is 00:41:12 We wondered if maybe Bienomi, because they've done such a good job in Washington, took that with him. Yeah, he took it with him, but he didn't take the screen game. He wasn't the screen game. Like Reed's still dialing those up, and Bacheco is a big part of that. So point taken, that guy's really good.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And you look at the guys outside, I'd have to give it to my homes. That's my personal opinion. And you sound like Mahomes, too. Yeah. So my home's just won the MVP. Sorry, Steve. two to one. That's how they should vote it, us three.
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Starting point is 00:43:14 restrictions. All right, let's talk about college football, man. What a week. Really snuck up on us, didn't it? Like Friday night should be off the chain, dude. I'm so excited about that game. You know, like last Pack 12 championship. And it is going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And, you know, you look at a lot of these other games. Some of them are pretty lopsided. but there's a couple of them that I can't wait to see. We'll talk about those in a second, but before we get there, the big news over the last 48 hours is Elko, Texas A&M. I thought they were going to say Bobby Petrino going back to Arkansas. Patrino's going back to Arkansas, huh?
Starting point is 00:43:54 I missed that. Oh, yeah. Believe that. Back to the scene of the crime. How about this sport? I mean, tell me where else this happens besides college football and most lovably in the SEC. Politics. I mean, it's just tremendous.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Politics in the SEC are like the same thing. And like Tommy Tupperville found a way to do both, which is totally fucking crazy. But anyways, what do you have to do to get on the ticket in that state anyway? So we've got a, it's not like it's a high bar. So we've got, we've got Elko to text Santa. I guess my question to you is, could this be the move that makes them an actual national powerhouse. They're 12 and 12 without him since he left.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And I kind of wonder, well, his familiarity with the place and that place is knowing him, give him a better shot to retain some guys and the transfer portal to actually affect change quicker because he's been there. What do you think about this move? He was a C coach of the year at Duke. The deal is for 7 mil season for six years. I love it because they didn't try and win the press conference. and I really think these teams now are getting so enamored with trying to wow the fan base.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And when you look at what we're doing here, it's about a coach that's trying to win games. And I think Elko, when you look at what he did at Duke, like back-to-back bowl games at that place, I mean, you guys know the ACC. That hasn't happened much. I don't know. I don't even think Spurrier did it when he was there. But then you talked to A&M people. Elijah Robinson's a guy who's been their best recruiter.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He runs the D-Line there. We know the defensive linemen that have come through there. Sounds like he's going to be back on the staff. So people are on board with that. The familiarity that Elko has, takes away a lot of the time he has to spend getting to know people. Because he's already, he knows who, you know, A&M's, you know, every school has the ladder, right? The ladder of alums, the things go, they run up the ladder. Okay, you're good, you good, you good.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Let's bring up to the top run. All right, yeah, we're good. He knows all those people. So instead of having to spend time there and going out to dinners and brown-nosed of people. He's already done it. Yeah, he's done it. So get that thing recruiting and get in the portal and figure out that roster and assess things that way. So I like it.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I really do. Yeah, it just feels like a school that should be, I don't know, I don't know as much about college football as you, Steve. but not you making either. But like it seems like a team that should be in the conversation for the playoff on a regular basis. Where am I missing the point? The problem is I think it's the fourth best job in their division.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, I guess so. I guess so, number one being, you know, Georgia and or Bama and then what's the third one? I'm not even counting, Georgia. I'm saying in the division. Oh, in the division. Yeah. I think Alabama, LSU and Auburn are better jobs. You think Auburn's a better job? I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:05 that oil money doesn't sway you? No, because I'm not the biggest brand there. And now that biggest brand's coming into the state. Yeah, no. Or into the league, I should say. I mean, I don't know. They should, I think they should, the pros that they put out, like, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Like quiet is kept, I'd stack them up against almost anybody. And as far as quality is concerned, and they sell that place out, it's fucking loud. You know, it is the SEC, and you mentioned the quality of life. some of the other places and the resources, but I think they should have a shot at our playoff over the next five, 10 years. I mean, like, you know. Tons of talent.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Elko, Elko went to UPenn, Smart Cookie, coached under Dave Clawson for 12 years. Dave Claussen's a great coach. Steve, what do you think about Mark Stoops, that name being leaked, and then the board of whatever, letting it play out on the message boards and blowback leading to a nod of Mark Stoops?
Starting point is 00:48:05 I talked about that ladder with A&M, how you run it up and you check in at every level. I don't think it made it all the way up. Didn't get past. Just talking to people, like, it finally, like it got through, say, maybe the message for people, but it didn't get up to the people that really matter to make the decisions. And that's what I take away from this. and that's the way it sounds to me. They have like a higher ladder than other places that I don't know about?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Maybe there's more steps on the ladder. A lot of fake soldiers. Yeah. Well, no, they don't. They don't actually go do the war. Mark Stoves, there were reports that. But if you get your ass kicked in College Station at some point. I won't find myself in college station.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And I make you an offer you can't refuse and we got to go to like Texas A&M. I'm not, they know they're not real. Yeah. They just have the outfits. Yeah. Mark Stoops told people in Lexington that it's a pre-enactment. They're pre-enactors. You know how there's reenactors?
Starting point is 00:49:13 They're pre-enactors. Texas A.N. I've been there multiple times. I've had a great time every time. He's sucking up. I'm sure it's great. Like, no, here's the thing. People can't, you know, you talk to be able to sport,
Starting point is 00:49:29 and then, you know, you talk to your insiders, your writers, the guys that covered a sport that have been all these places. Everyone just brings up Texas A&M has the resources. And that's what's so frustrating. No matter what it is, they have it. I mean, what they did with that stadium in the Mansell era of two years is just insane. I don't think that would happen anywhere else. And they've struck out.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And I go back to Jimbo in the quarterback situation and he struck out. time. I mean, look at the number of quarterbacks. He tried. He had play and it just went through the wayside. And that's in this day and age into portal error. If you don't have one of those, man, you're in trouble. Resources, they're paying seven mill to a guy who just got beat by three and nine Virginia. Yeah, I know. That's true. Those are some resources. That's true. I mean, listen, I mean, this is a sweet deal for the guy. Yeah, they got that one in there. It's the sweet guy. Sweet deal for the guy, Mike Elko, not a household name, a Yankee, if you will. Jersey down to SEC country.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I don't know what the metrics are on guys from the north going down to the SEC, but maybe that's what they need. Saman's done all right. Savan's done well. But West Virginia is not, West Virginia is not the north, bro. No? No, West Virginia is not the north.
Starting point is 00:50:46 It's like, I don't even know what to call West Virginia. It's Appalachian. Sort of its own thing. Yeah, it's his own thing. West Virginia. You know who is a northerner and went down to the guy that was at Florida, and now he's on TV?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Dan Mullet. Mullen. New Hampshire. Yeah, he's from like way up north. Okay. Anyways. So do you just consider Connecticut, Canada? No, but what do you?
Starting point is 00:51:09 I mean, West Virginia is not up north. It's north of these places, but it's like the time where we were on the road. Okay, here's one for you. Yeah. Is Pittsburgh the northeast? So if you ask Julian Edelman, it's the Midwest. I agree. He thinks the whole Rust Belt is Midwest.
Starting point is 00:51:29 It's the Rust Belt. You can't, you can't technically be the- Is he a geography major? No, he's not, I don't know what the fuck Jules major did. Or is it, no, he said he's Kent State. Yeah, he might have been basket weaving. Anyways, here's a lot of TV times. Jules are doing great on TV.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I've got, always got the collar open, chest hair. I think I've got pieces of West Virginia north of Pittsburgh. Yeah, so I don't, I don't call that the, I don't know what to call that. It's a rust belt, dude. It's an interesting country. It's a fucking weird country, dude. Okay. So anyways, talking about the Heisman race because, you know, that's the other piece of the puzzle before we get to the playoff here and all the conference championship games this weekend. I just want to say this. This race sucks. This Heisman race sucks, dude. You're going to tell me, and I don't know much, but you're going to tell me that Jaden Daniels is going to get the Heisman trophy for just a bunch of stats. You know, you're going to tell me that, like I'm reading the Milro guy, right? he's got a great story.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Who's got a better Heisman moment than that? I understand he can't win the thing reasonably. He got bench for USF and, you know, like Texas game wasn't great and all that stuff. But like, he could be invited in New York if he wins this week. He's going to be invited New York if he wins this week. Oh. If he wins this week. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:50 But here's, I just want to say that this race sucks. There has to be one guy on a good team that's had these magic moments. And, you know, the best moment I can think of. now if panics wins it for some reason they go undefeated and the whole thing and he lights up Oregon again like then then I'm like okay that's fair I can get behind that story but it's just something about jaden daniels on it yeah they're not relevant LSU's not relevant right now they're relevant in that they're good fucking football program and everybody pays attention but like do we do we always give do we give this to like three loss four lost team
Starting point is 00:53:26 quarterbacks on a regular basis tbo and RG3 Yeah, but they were Tebow and RG3, man. There was a magic about these guys, right? Like, their household names before they even get to the pros. Yeah? I don't know. It's a different era. It's a different era.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's lost some of its luster for me. Yeah, just give it to Brock Bowers. Okay. So who do you think wins it? Is it Jaden Daniels? It could be Bo Necks. Yeah, Bo Nex throws for 400, maybe Washington. Friday night.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah, Bo Nex. And I don't agree. I do not agree. I believe Jane Daniels should win the Hizman. You think he should win the Hizman? I do. So we don't need a moment. He's got more 50-plus-yard plays than there's plenty of moments there.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, but none of them are actually important, Steve. So, you know, the Millrope player. Now, you got my attention. You know, that's kind of what I grew up thinking the Hysman Trophy was. It was just a magic thing. You just wanted one play that you could remember. Well, because I can go find a guy that's thrown for, you know 10,000 yards every year.
Starting point is 00:54:33 You know what this means? What? Greenlight pod needs a Heisman vote. We do need a Heisman vote. You need a Heisman vote. Isn't that what we tried to do with all the awards on the show? That's not going on. Speaking of the awards, that's coming up soon.
Starting point is 00:54:45 You guys got to give an award. Let's talk about this. I want to start with this. Go around the room here and tell me, Stephen Macon, who you want to see in the playoff, your ideal playoff. And then we'll talk through what has to happen for that, Iowa.
Starting point is 00:55:04 They got to score more than 0.5 first half points. That's their team total in the first half. Did I read that right? What'd you have? Their team total is 0.5 in the first half. Yeah, it's six and a half for the game. It's incredible. I'm hammering that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 That's the most fun bet. This will be the most fun bet in the world. It's just like any play it could happen. Defense too. Defense too, dude. A short field. We're in it. snap for the game. We got a chance.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Dude, it's incredible. So in all seriousness, you want Iowa to win. Who doesn't want Iowa to win? That'd be funny. I'm kidding. I don't. Okay. I want to Iowa to win. Washington, Texas, Georgia, Tulane is 11 and 1,
Starting point is 00:55:47 but I'll go, I'll go Michigan. Washington, Texas, Georgia, Michigan. My exact sentiments nice. I just think that's a really nice, like, these are some of the classic power five teams, you know, that have rich histories.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I honestly think those four teams aren't that far apart. You know, like Georgia's going to be favorites as we talked about in almost any game. I don't know what happens in the Michigan game if they play in the championship. But you wouldn't rather see Oregon? There would be way more competitive. You think? I'm Vegas would put them as a smaller dog.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I just take it as like I want one Cinderella to root for. And Pennix is the perfect Cinderella because of all the injuries, because of where he's been, and the Indiana thing. It feels like he's been in college for 10 years to cap an undefeated season with a run in the playoffs would be incredible. Oregon, they're very good. Can they beat Georgia?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Can they beat Michigan? Is that what Washington and you think so, Oregon? I think Oregon has a better chance to beat those teams in Washington. By how many points? Like, you know what I'm saying? How many points is Washington catching? Oregon's a 10-point favorite against Washington.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Okay, all right. So you added up, you think Washington might. be like two touchdown dogs in any of those games. Yeah, they might. To Georgia? Yeah. Counterpoint, purple and gold. Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:12 It would look sick. Yeah, actually would look sick. And then you get, well, no, but so would Oregon. So let's talk about this. We start with the Pack 12 championship. The Penn Ultimate. Is that the right word? Pennix Ultimate.
Starting point is 00:57:24 No, it's not. It's the ultimate. It's the ultimate. It's the ultimate. What the fuck is that word for? Oh, for lots of things. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That's a stupid word. Reminds me the Heisman Trophy. It's stupid this year. It's stupid word, stupid fucking Heisman trophy race. And ultimate. The ultimate Pac-12. There's a real word. The ultimate Pac-12 championship sponsored by Tostitos or some shit.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Let's talk about this game. Oregon, Washington? Yeah. Yeah, that's the one. Well, let me know. There's no one after that. Let me know if you talk to a proxed. person that likes Washington in this game to win.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Do you like him to cover? I think I'm going to have to take him because no one's taking him. So why did they beat him? Because Oregon went for two-fourth. They decided to go for a fourth down before the half or to kick the field goal, and they went for the win on a fourth down to not give Washington the ball back, and they didn't get it. It sounded like a good ball game to me.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It was an awesome game. It looked like a good ball game to me. Unbelievable game. So all I'm saying is you just never know, but you think the biggest advantage is where for Oregon? I just think the totality of the last couple weeks for Washington. When you go back and you look at rivalry game against Wazoo, 15 and a half point favorite, barely win. The week before that, go play in the pouring rain and Corvallis, brutal spot, do enough to win that game.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Go play a shootout against USC, win that game. Up against it, against Arizona State. Utah comes in and they're losing that half time and they come back and shut out Utah I don't know if they're built for five straight weeks of this whereas Oregon has just coasted. You know, Oregon's best win in the season they got last week against Oregon State.
Starting point is 00:59:19 If Oregon State falls out of the top 25, I don't think they have one top 25 win. Yeah, Utah, Utah. They're still ranked? Oregon State was it. Utah, I don't think is ranked anymore. Utah 13th at the time. Are they 13th? But so was Oregon State. No, no, I'm talking about now with the rankings coming out.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Because that's how they do it. They look at like current, you know, and so like, you know, for instance, well, we'll get to that in a second. But I think the interesting part here is if Bama wins, Oregon's shit out of luck. So, I mean, you know, you're going to have the. biggest Georgia fans in the world if they get the one Friday time. We're avoiding the elephant in the room of Florida State. You ACC guys, do you see
Starting point is 01:00:07 the face of the committee Boo Corrigan, NC State AD? Yeah. Telling ACC world in the country and the world that undefeated Florida State team is left out of the playoffs. Well, they're going to lose. Okay. No. They're going to lose, Steve.
Starting point is 01:00:24 That's, I was thinking the same thing. You think that too? I am. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're going to lose. I think Florida State is going to lose. Got a backup quarterback. Even with a backup, you know, they have had some good wins. It's a great win at Florida.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Like that's the other thing, too. They're not getting enough credit. For the Florida win. Yes. That's a brutal place. That place was primed, ready to go. It's even better at night, as every place is. I don't know why we say that. I just did. But when you look
Starting point is 01:00:55 at what they're stacked up against in Brom, who I think the world of is a play caller and now all the pressure is off of them after they lose to Kentucky because of turnovers. They're going to get the whole bag. And Florida State's got all the pressure on them because no matter what they say or want to do, they got to win this game. And now I think it's down to two and a half.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, two and a half. It's a lot to ask for knowing the stakes. So if there's an underdog out there, I know it's two and a half. I think Louisville is pretty live. I like Louisville. I'm in a better money. I'm on our ACC insider with the wool hat on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah, yeah. What do you think? He's staying out of this whole conversation. The quarterback didn't look so hot. Yeah. And I think the quarterback they had before was fucking special. Yep. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I'd love to see him back and healthy at some point. And that guy, that guy, I've just had it stuck in my head. I forget who they played a year ago. And I watched that whole thing. I think it was Florida. maybe. Yeah. That game, it was at night.
Starting point is 01:02:03 It was last year. And I was just like, this guy might be one of the best quarterbacks in football, like, period. And so that's a big loss, lives in a guy like that. And yeah, what's awesome about this game is you got, I think, two of the best five play callers in the sport. Yeah. So Norville does a great job of playing his strengths. And Louisville is going to bring more of the table on the defensive side than Florida is. So.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Is that Florida? cool. Napier. I love him. I don't know anything about him, but I just seemed like he'd be a good hang. And him and him and, him and Norvell were hanging out
Starting point is 01:02:38 way too long before the game, before rivalry, matchup. They had the camera on them. They were just yucking it up, buddy, buddy. But I don't blame him because they both seem like fucking cool guys.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Same haircut. Same haircut. Okay, so, so we know where we lean as a group in the ACC championship. And in that case, that opens the door for a number of things,
Starting point is 01:02:59 right. It opens the door for Ohio State, for Texas, and obviously, Bama as conference champions. You guys good with Georgia not making it if they lose. You know, I'm going to leave this to you guys. No, I don't think they're getting in. If they lose, they're not getting in. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Well, because I do feel like this year, and they've been dominant, but like as a casual, it doesn't feel like they've had a vice-gris. grip on college football the way that like they had in the past or bama had in the past it's just a sense i get you know and so if you lose this game it's hard to to to just slide them in like say a bama that loses a conference championship in like 2014 or something and the fourth michigan organ bama texas i want to see texas in i think it'd be cool steve likes the big fellows i think that's a that's a
Starting point is 01:03:54 reason that they can win that match up against oklahoma state okoma state likes to run the ball right those guys are tough as shit up front. And I think that matchup bodes really well for them. If we could get Georgia, Oregon and Michigan, Texas, that's big boy stuff. Yeah, that's cool, too. On the same day, January 1st, on the greatest day in the, in the whole calendar year. Do you think so?
Starting point is 01:04:22 I know so. Got a fucking hangover and you'll watch two touchdown first round games in the college football a playoff. We should have eight games, not four. It's the best. It's the best. Huh? It's my birthday. It's the best. Oh, it's your birthday. Sorry. How old will we turn this year, Steve? I'll text you. Okay. Steve. Oh, right. The whole algae crumple. He doesn't have a guy. Does he? Like, at ESPN, you can't, like, look up somebody's bio to see how old they are. Yeah. So, like, you could keep that a mystery if you want it. And once again, he's a big fan of Duke, Notre Dame, and his first name is Stanford.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I don't like Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not my favorite sport in anything. Okay. All right, so let's talk about betting these games. We like, I think we all like Texas, but that's a lot of points. So where do you lean, Steve? Yeah, I lean towards the dog. Yeah, I like the dog there too.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Georgia, Bama dive into this one, Steve. Paint me a picture. I like what Alabama brings to the table. because of the strength of their defense. The last two years with Bryce Young, they did not have this kind of difference makers on the defensive side. And when you look at Georgia, all their name guys on the defensive front are on the Eagles.
Starting point is 01:05:41 So when you look at what Bama could do with setting the edge and Millrow getting outside and running that stretch zone, Missouri did a good job of it against Georgia, that worries me. because I think with Georgia's big play capability, and I've said it for a couple weeks now, and after seeing them in person for sure, Georgia's offense is better than their defense for the first time in a while.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And when you look at the ability and capability of Bama on the back end, now if they get into a shootout, they're going to be in trouble because Georgia wants it that way. But I think Alabama could slow things down. I really can. And then Milro has continued to get better. And, you know, I was talking to my guy, Cole Kublich, like, which secondary would you take? I said Bama.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He says Georgia. He knows that conference better to me, so I trust him. But when I watch it, I just, I'd love the personnel. Georgia probably has more higher draft picks. But I, Georgia has injuries, too, on the offense. Like, the different, like, La McConkey, you need that guy in a game like this. He's your best route runner. You know, he's your outlet.
Starting point is 01:06:50 and when you look at what's given Bama problems, it's running quarterbacks. And Beck is not that. So I don't see Georgia installing quarterback runs, you know, in a week and putting him in harm's way with free shots. And those two edge guys for Bama are real, man. They do it great. They turned it up in the second half when they needed to against Auburn.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So I like Bama. I really do. I think they have the good stuff. to do it. Now, if Georgia wins 3027, I'm not going to be surprised, but five points, I'll take Bama. Steve, there's a gun to your head. You can't see it. Well, now you see it. I see it. Okay. So, uh, three guns. Well, that's four guns, Steve. I'm looking right at him. You got one pick to make. The under or Bama catching six points. I don't know the Georgia injuries. Um, it's over.
Starting point is 01:07:51 All right. I don't have to answer it. Now, we're just killed the leader. Bama plus the points. If you want to edit it. No. So you like Bama. Okay. I do.
Starting point is 01:08:10 So Bama catching six. Your favorite bet of the college football, well, the conference championship weekend? Uh, hmm. I'll take. Michigan minus the 23. Jesus. I swear to you, I'm going to put a fucking couch
Starting point is 01:08:29 on Iowa to score six and a half points. I swear I'm going to bet them in the first half, over half a point, and then I'm going to bet them in the second half. But it's still going to be 45-7. It's going to be 45-10. That's a cover. Oh. The total is 35 and a half and they're giving 20. It's going way
Starting point is 01:08:45 over, dude. It's going way over. These guys are ready. They've been playing possum, offensively. So let's give out some awards. Yeah. The Timmy Chang Award, which is awarded to a college football. Who won't be probably playing this weekend. Big news out of the 1-A World, FCS.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Did you see who's coming? Yeah, I heard. Who's transitioning? The blue hens. Ah. No way. Joe Flacco. Oh, good for them.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Wouldn't they be a great rival for Reed's team? I thought you're going to say Virginia. Weren't they? No, I would not do that. Reed, you come on over, come East. You know. Weren't they? Well, East you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah, CAA. We used to beat the, beat the hen out of them. He beat the hen out. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Get the hen out of them. Got it. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Hey, man. Good, good job, Delaware. And we almost saw Flacco last week. We just had a fucking uniform on. We might have seen Flacko in that game. Will we see Flacco this weekend? No, haven't heard about it. There's no chance we see Flacco this year.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Is there a chance, Nolan, you think? Nolan just got his hands in the hair. He's like, what does it matter? You know? Fucking Browns. No, but we love the Blue Hens. Delaware tight end, Braden Bros. Broads.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Broads. Brose. Brayden, Bro. From Irwin, PA. Blue Hens were down to Lafayette. 2813 at half. Braden two touchdowns in the second half led the big comeback. Braden Bros. Monster matchup, Chris.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Delaware goes out to Missoula this week to face your Grizz. No way. Grizz are real this year. Have we started? What is that? Round of 32, 16. Yeah, I think what do they get? A couple buys. If there's a double a play, now, I want to go to Missoula to watch a game. I've never done it. I'm in Montana every summer.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Like, I'm in Missoula all the time, but I've never gone to see the Gris play. Like, that's number one on my bucket list probably for double A venues, no offense, Jamu. Maybe I can catch one of your day games and then head out less because the time change. I get there on time for one of those big night games in Missoula. But, like, where would I want to go watch a game? Missoula. Missoula. Is there even a close second?
Starting point is 01:11:19 What's the indoor one? It's some cool name. No, I know. Kibby Dome. But they're, are they double A now? They're single A, aren't they? No, they're the four seed in this, uh,
Starting point is 01:11:31 yeah, 16th. Didn't they used to be in like the whack or one of those fucking schools? Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 01:11:40 They got relegated. Okay. So anyways, that's enough on the double A. I don't, I don't know if it is because Braden Bros is majoring in human services. What does one
Starting point is 01:11:53 human services? I'll tell you. Human services? I, what are scoring touchdowns? That's what it is. Okay. If you Google image search Irwin P.A. he's from. I wonder if that's in the Northeast.
Starting point is 01:12:09 What I'm figuring out is that people that major in human services basically shake people's hands and write notes with people on couches. There's no job description for somebody that comes out school with a human services degree. Human services. Anyways. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:25 So let's talk about the Cochland Award, which is another award. This is very easy. You were talking about the Heisman. This should overtake the Heisman. The Heisman is shit, dude. Cody Schrader running back, Missouri, 217 yards, a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Coach Drink, tried to get him in New York with a speech after the game on national TV. But unbelievable stories. if you're not familiar with it. Division 2 kid and transferred up has an unbelievable year. I talked about that stretch zone that Georgia had trouble with Missouri. That's because of him. Shrader running the ball.
Starting point is 01:13:01 A phenomenal game. Missouri wins 10 games this year. No one had that. Not even coached drink. Give me Cody Shrader, Coughlin Award winner. That should be a Heisman winner. Yeah, no, honestly, think about it. If they did the Heisman for the NFL this year,
Starting point is 01:13:16 the way they're doing it for the college football, Heisman this year, which is basically, oh, this guy's got some stats. We'd be looking at Sam Hal and Tua. That's what you're telling me, dude. I've done with this Heisman Trophy. They only gave me one vote in 2000 and whatever it was. Fuck me, Heisman Trophy. Isaiah Simmons Award.
Starting point is 01:13:40 The Heisman Trophy statue should be a guy looking at his phone at his stats. because that's what that fucking award is now devolved into. You know? I need a moment, guys. I need a Heisman moment. Heisman House. When Jaden Daniels goes to the Heisman House,
Starting point is 01:13:58 they're going to be like, I don't remember anything you do. He's like, hold on, let me pull up all these box scores. What fuck are we doing? This is good stuff. Do you know Joe Thysman? His name? used to be Joe Thiesman.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yes. This is what it's come to. The guy changed it. At one point, the award was prestigious enough to change your name to rhyme with the award. Change your legal fucking name. And now it's just the guy that's running up a bunch of stats. He didn't win it. That's the ultimate twist of the knife.
Starting point is 01:14:34 It names is Joe Thysman the rest of your life. You couldn't even win the Heisman. I remember when the Heisman trophy meant something. All right. Let's get into the Isaiah Simmons Award. Which? It's given to a college football player. No, this one's pretty clear cut.
Starting point is 01:14:55 It's given to a guy that you walk by on the field and makes you say, holy shit, like the number 33 at Penn State. They said, what's this chop guy working individual? I'm down on the field. I'm like, holy shit, 33 looks like all of the guys I play with. Actually, not all of them because they don't look like this guy. Yeah, I think I got to go with Will Johnson, corner from Michigan.
Starting point is 01:15:14 You talk about, I mean, on the field, it's just Michigan legend after Michigan legend walking by you. And to see him stay with Marvin Harrison Jr. for a whole game, had a pick early in the game, just looks apart. He's got a chance to be one of the top corners taken, if not the top corner, to see him in person and do watch what he did. I thought it was the main reason Michigan was able to slow down Ohio State's offense. So Will Johnson, you're going to hear his name on Sundays for a long. That dude's long, huh? Yeah, compact, though. Like, just to, I mean, instincts.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Like, he jumps that slant where McCord knows where he wants to go. And, you know, those guys, Chris, like, when you know where those guys have it, you know, to see them, you know, watch on tape. And then to see them do it in person, to be able to break on the ball like that is just absolutely insane to watch in person for me. That was not a fast guy. You shouldn't have to worry when you buy tickets to your next big event. Game time is the fast and easy way to buy tickets for all the sports, music, comedy, and theater events near you. With killer last minute deals, all-in prices, views from your seat, and their best price guarantee, game time takes the guesswork out of buying tickets. Yeah, I'm like, I'm on my game time app right now.
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Starting point is 01:18:13 guaranteed. It's time. And now for the locks. Guys, I just want to say this as a group, we've been on a fucking heater. That's right. Okay? Even included McKin? Well, Macon had a bad week last week,
Starting point is 01:18:33 but as far, I don't know which week that was, but the one where you just totally caved. All right. You came in here and you did a whole thing. You were like, uh, ad man, let me do a whole ad about about Bigger. You know, come in here, peacocking. There was an offer.
Starting point is 01:18:47 But now he's bounced back. Okay, we were, Chris and Steve, we're six and no combined. Making was two and one. This is as a group, we're eight and one. And this is free fucking money, dude. Steve is six and no over the last two weeks. Steve is dominant. Over the last two weeks, it's just been like free money for you guys.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And as a group, we're 10 games over 500. Which is good. If you just tail us on every pick, you win some money. For a while there, you have little faith. I could almost feel it through the microphone that you guys were like, yeah, I don't want to tail these guys. They're on a... The Goodwill Hunting Giff was pretty good on your... Because I'm hitting all these parlayes, man.
Starting point is 01:19:25 And honestly, I'm taking it to the field, man. It's just not just the locks. My family's stockings are stuffed because of the Caesar's app and wherever else I place my bet. So let's get into it. Makin. I guess you're up first. Now, I should say, on the season, Steve's 21 and 15 clubhouse leader, 19, 15, and 2, your boy here, the pushes are killing me.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And then Macon's dead 500, 18 and 18. So it's anybody's ballgame. We got a few more weeks to do this. I think at some point we should do a double XP week. But I'm going to leave that up to the leader because I don't want to be the guy that's like calling for this thing every year. And you say it's not, you know, I'm just doing it because I'm not winning. I can win outright, okay, just for the record. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Is it Christmas week? Yeah, maybe. I'll start by saying Steve is between 44 and 49 years old. Okay. That is. John Lynch. Really? On this New Year's, yeah?
Starting point is 01:20:28 John Lynch? Wow. Wow. Nice. Yeah, okay. Make a pick. You got in my head earlier. By just saying we have the locks today and you're not being prepared.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Detroit Lions minus four. I did get in your head, didn't I? Yeah. This thing opened at like. This thing, I, the perfect, Steve. Perfect. I walked in here, waged a little mental warfare. You did.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Okay. And I said, uh, Detroit bounced back week, huh? I went back to my computer and his face was like, oh, shit, I like that. So Detroit, uh, laying for on the road in New Orleans. Yeah. It's tough, tough. That's right. That's a tough number.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Yeah. Okay. And, you know, I'm looking at the. Balkans here, who are two and a half point favorites. And they are, I don't even care if they're on the road or at home. They're on the road. They're going up to play the Jets. You just can't convince me, though.
Starting point is 01:21:32 The only outcome, see, even if I lose this bet I win, because then I can say, hey, you fucking idiots down in Atlanta. I've been talking about Desmond Ritter throwing picks the whole year. That's the only way that they lose this game is if he converts two of his throws into to 10, 14 points for the other team. That was the challenge the Jets had for them last week. They gave seven points right back after they got to pick six. I think the Falcons win this game.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Steve, is there a way they don't? I don't see it. Kiss of death here. I was talking about it this way, but that's my first play. All right. I'm going under Colts Titans, 43 and a half? Dicey. It just came down because Jonathan Taylor's,
Starting point is 01:22:17 out for a few weeks. All right. 42 and a half, I'll take it. He's going to fuck it. We'll do it live. Okay. I'll go under as well. It's the Arizona Cardinals in Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. That number is 41.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Careful now. I know. I am. I'm being careful. All right. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit. I think my number two choice, nobody's going to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Give me the Washington commanders. Fuck. I was. Give me the Washington commanders. Were you going to do it too? Catching whatever. I was looking at the total. Yeah, catching whatever. They're at nine and a half right now.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Make that 10. So anyways. It's not a fun one, but it's probably the right one. I think it's going to be a really fun game because I think both these teams are going to score. And I actually think these are two quarterbacks who are closer to each other than people realize and that's a compliment to Sam Howell. I think Tua's done a really nice job.
Starting point is 01:23:21 They're not perfect, but they both can rack up yards and there's some good wide receivers on the field. I'm excited about this game. Hey, Pimp. Yeah, what's you got? You know, you and I Washington and Atlanta right here on my board. Grouping. So I think people need to pick these picks.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Yeah, take these picks. All right, I'm going to go with a team that has no business giving five and a half points. If that's what you have, I'm taking Pittsburgh. That is what we have. That's what we have. So you're taking Pittsburgh, but you think that they have no business giving that many points.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Correct. So you think they're going to blow these guys out. I think Arizona is going to have a hard time finding the end zone. Yeah. Which, I mean, like, listen, if you want to play a team total, maybe it's the Arizona team total. Those things have been. Parlay with Iowa.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Parlay with Iowa. No, that's a couch all the way. I don't need to involve anybody else. It's just me in Iowa. Okay, make, you're up. Third and final pick. This is so good. I, hmm, okay.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Oh, oh, look out. All right. I'm going to go, hmm. You know, watching these games and watching these teams struggle to score points, I can see why the overs aren't coming through as much. Because it's 3-0, and then it's 6-0.
Starting point is 01:24:47 and then it's 7-6. What's your pick? I don't have a pick. He's Philibov. I don't have a pick. Okay, I'll make a pick. Do you want me to make a pick? Sure.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I'll make a pick. The quarterback situation is bad and the team's on a roll. It's the L.A. Rams. That's three and a half. That's an interesting game. We can get in and talking about that in a second as we go through the whole board. That's A1 big screen. That's a fucking interesting game now.
Starting point is 01:25:19 425. Screw 49ers Eagles. Now I'm going to, can you cover your, years, Steve? Can you mute Steve so me and make you talk about this pick? Not that he wants to help me. I'm going to read your face. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:31 I'm going to say two totals. Okay. Detroit, New Orleans, over 46. That's one total. Okay? L.A., New England under 40 and a half. I can't read your face. Which one do you like more?
Starting point is 01:25:53 I'm going. I'm going Detroit, New Orleans over. Now, I don't even. He might be. Trick-knick-knit me. But I just, how many points do you think? When the Saints score, they score quickly. The Saints are going to score some points on this defense.
Starting point is 01:26:07 20 points? 20 points, I think, is enough because I think Detroit's going to score as well. Give me the over. I'm going to play the rare over 46. 47's a key number, right, guys? I like 46. And sometimes Derek Carl will throw it to the other team, Jesse. No question.
Starting point is 01:26:22 We get some short fields and that sort of things. Just don't do it in the red zone like last week. Wow. All right. Steve, leader. He's going to take the under in New England. He might take the under in New Orleans. You might? He might.
Starting point is 01:26:36 I'm done. Oh, Steve's done here. Oh, Steve's not done. Did he hear my other pick? Steve's our leader. Was he actually muted? I don't know if he's not. No, he wouldn't mute.
Starting point is 01:26:43 He heard me. Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. I'm here. Oh, I'd like the New England, L.A. under. Did anyone take the Panthers bucks under? No, sir.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Nope. Got it at 37. I will. man i'm kind of thinking about that under you know because if you think about it how did the pat score defense like iowa i mean the pick is in the pick is in fuck it but just know let's get into the rest of the slate okay here we go here we go
Starting point is 01:27:20 broncos texans minus three and a half texans laying uh three and a half at home the total is 47 what's your gut guys everybody that's been on the Texans is not going to get off because of last week. Yep. You think everybody's going to be on the Texans? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Interesting. He's a total stay away. Denver was my next one. If I had to do anything, I might buy a half point. Not for nothing. The Broncos have not played indoors all year. I don't know what the fuck that means, but, you know, kind of looking at the things. It's a good tidbit.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It might not be an indoor team. if I had to do anything, I'd probably buy it to four. And I actually, I actually kind of lean over there, but not a game, as we said, that we're hot on. Lions Saints, we talked about this. We like the total. Making likes the lions, dolphins, commies. I like the commies. The total's 50.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Not touching the total here. I just am not. Cardinal Steelers, we hit that. Chargers Patriots. Almost made this a lot. in my personal life, I will be buying to 41. You can book it. What I've also done is I've teased the Cowboys with the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:28:46 From last week? Huh? From last week, too? No, so what I did is, yeah, so I teased a bunch of stuff with the Cowboys for Monday night. And then when that hits and the Cowboys take care of business because Seattle's fraudulent and they're going to Jerry's world, then I've already put in a role. rollover with Dallas and the Chargers. So I'm praying to my lucky stars that Dallas wins Thursday night because then it's just like,
Starting point is 01:29:13 do the Chargers, what has to happen for the Chargers to lose that game? Bill always beats him. I know he always beats him. And that's why I'm not laying the points. Herbert misses some time. Herbert misses some time. That's about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And then we've got Falcons Jets. We talked about that. That total is in the Iowa zone. It's the 34. I honestly might take a stab at that too. Colts, Titans, you know, Steve's touched on that. We've got the total that's been picked. And the ones that we haven't talked about yet.
Starting point is 01:29:50 The two best games of the week, maybe. Okay? And I'm staying away because I don't love the Eagles in this spot. The same reason I talked about Washington in the Pac-12 championship came. Gone with it. Yeah. And I don't know. It just feels like a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And the way the Niners match up with them, this is the first time they've seen all those guys. I think I really, obviously, we touched on the Hertz injury early on in the season. But this Lane and Fletcher Cox deal ain't good either. It's not good. I believe that we'll get Lane back. You know, whether it's this week or the next week, I don't think it's going to be a long-term thing. I don't know, you know, what to think about Fletcher, right? But at the end of the day, my biggest concern about the Eagles is you're going to have play them twice.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Okay. I think if I had to guess how this thing is going to go, you lose this one. You win the NFC championship because I just think where this team is coming off of that 90 plus play performance on defense in the rain in a 4 p.m. game. You know, the Niners have had 10 days rest, you know, off of Thanksgiving. That's a big deal. okay at this time of year yeah it's a big deal and so i'm not saying that the better team or i'm trying to sell my team down the river or anything like that but chances are what i do is tease them with somebody so i can have some skin in the game because i think this is going to be a great
Starting point is 01:31:17 ball game but um i don't know i just don't know i can't give that my heart is to involve to make a pick there and then chiefs packers i like the over in this game so do i that that was one that was one for me as well so that's that totals at forty two too. And honestly, I like the Chiefs. We had this whole thing that I can't stop coming back to. I was on inside the NFL and I was so shocked
Starting point is 01:31:42 that I was the only guy on the fucking panel after that Chief's loss two weeks ago that is not panicking about the Chiefs. And so I think this is the time of the season that they figure some shit out. They had one drop. They had a bunch of second half points.
Starting point is 01:31:57 They looked better. And I said this on Monday. I thought this was the best thing that could have happened to them getting you know like and i thought what a good script by the the raiders they legitimately were picking these guys apart like i've seen nobody pick them apart early in a football game all season long Denver gave them a lot of trouble but in a totally different way i thought they called a great game and as a side note i want to say this again Antonio pierce should be back as that head coach and honestly that play caller's done a nice job too um so i i think the chiefs make a big statement Sunday night and we'll learn something about the Packers but 42 is the total I like the
Starting point is 01:32:35 over buy y'all's half points before we go oh we got to buy half points okay you start making do you think it's more I think a total can more quickly be just just just just you know it's it's random is it going to land on that number or not there's key numbers but like and that's a pretty key number 41's a key number but so is three and a half right well I'd read well I'd rather get the lions to three and a half and have four points. Yeah, so you, so you want to get the lions to three and a half. I'm taking the lines of three and a half. Okay, get the lines three and a half.
Starting point is 01:33:07 A couple threes and a couple hooks for you. That's right. I am going to go ahead and get that. I mean, I'm at a half point for all this stuff. So the law of the land has hit the total. So I'm going to take 45 and a half instead of 46. And Steve, what you got? Yeah, probably to total.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Total and Colts Titans to 43. Okay. All right. Now, again, my teaser of the week is, I'm the tease God, bro. I've been threading multiple needles. If it were, because A. Flowers being all excited to do his fucking bouquet thing. I had a fucking thread the needle on Sunday night, too. I had two teasers out, both teams, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:33:54 All you're doing when you thread the needle is saying this game's not going to be a blowout, you know. Take the Cowboys. Tees him with the Chargers. All right. Put my reputation on it. I know I put the charges on the DNB list a couple weeks ago, but I'm over. Dave Matthews, man? Huh?
Starting point is 01:34:11 Dave Matthews Man? No, the Do Not Bet. D&B. It's different that Dave Matthews band. It's do not bet. Careful, dude. That's a big fan base. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:34:21 It includes. Yeah. Big boy. Matt's sister works for Dave himself. Yeah. So anyways. I've been in her box. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Well, no, for it. You're sweet. You're sweet. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to make sure she hears that. I'm sure she'll love it. All right, Steve, time for you to go bet on your own baseball team and get kept out of the Hall of Fame. Have a good day.
Starting point is 01:34:51 A good day. Love you. Shout out to the branch. Love you guys. Shout out to the branch, boy. Peace. Get them. Take care of, Steve.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Happy hunt. Love you guys. Love you.

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