Green Light with Chris Long - Stanford Steve! State of the Buffalo Bills, CFB Playoff Landscape, Heisman Race & NFL Week 11 Gambling Locks

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

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Can I vote for what will be America's number one public play? Go ahead. Tell us. Houston Tech. I know exactly. And that's why I guess I'll just go with the Arizona Cardinals plus four. It's a good pick. I like the pick. Yeah.

And in fact, they might win. Welcome to the Green Light podcast. Stanford Steve Wednesday. It's a big week here at Studio J. Stanford Steve's coming down to the area for college game day at JMU on Saturday. It'll be a wild weekend and it'll be a wild show for YouTube. today. We've got a Monday night football recap. To rock all the Monday night football recaps, what a game. The Broncos beat the bills and walk off fashion. Will Lutz kicks the field goal.

It was a big win for Chris's wallet. It was a big win for us Broncos fans. And the bills are out searching to try to write the ship. We react to Ken Dorsey's firing. We react to Josh Allen's play. Chris and Steve break down the game and Tuesday's fallout in Buffalo. And then we get to college football. We don't just break down games today. We also talk highs, and the college football playoff. What teams that still have a shot are serious and which ones are the pretenders who are the real players in the Heisman trophy race?

And then we get into our locks. We've got a few games to give out. And we also talk betting the rest of the slate, give you an early look on some of these great games. So enjoy the show, and we will see you on Friday. Fun show today. Stanford Steve. It's automatic.

Set it and forget it. That's right. We're going to talk a lot of college football. We're going to talk about Ken Dorsey. We're going to talk about the Buffalo Bills. I don't know what to make you guys. I mean, I think I know what to make you guys. We'll try to work that out with Stanford Steve.

Listen, dude, I got, there was a Nick Chubb social today. Did you see this? I'm not getting enough credit for winning fantasy games without Nick Chubb. I'm, am I winning any fantasy games? No, and the bad part is you and me are are next to each other in the stand. No way. And I care. You're down at the bottom with me?

Yeah, but I've given up now. my lineup. I've given up. Remember we used to have James Coe on to do fantasy every week? Yeah. That was where I don't know why we stopped. It was mainly because, you know, every Friday, we got a ton of stuff to talk about. I know why we stopped. Why? I want a title. Then you want a title. We've climbed the mountain. What else is there to do? There's nothing else to do. Thank you for your service. Yeah. If you're coming here for fantasy advice, we're not going to give it to you. But on your guy, Nick Chup, there was this this i'm just going to show you this this tweet for two seconds and you have to guess what happened okay he he has died yeah dude nick chubbs dead yeah you look at this tweet from the

cleveland browns an update on nick chubbs recovery process following his second surgery today it's a classic this guy died picture with a three paragraph summary of what happened in the surgery in the words of everybody i've ever read in the replies i ain't reading all that and it looks like my man is kicked the bucket. I'm either happy for you. I'm sorry about that. Or his ACL, they opened him up, and I thought it was going to be like,

Brown's running back, Nick Chubb, underwent his scheduled second surgery today to repair the anterior cruciate ligament, ACL, as part of his knee injury sustained against the September game against the Steelers in Pittsburgh. We discovered upon entry of the joint that his ACL has died.

You know, like, that's what this is supposed to read, but it reads that everything went fine. Yeah. You know, so congratulations. to Nick Chub, honestly, big sigh of relief here. Because any time one of the game's best gets hit like that, his knee goes that way, you think about the long road he's got ahead of him, you think about the complications

with knee injuries. We've seen a bunch of guys never be the same. After catastrophic knee injuries, this guy's awesome for the game. He's one of the reasons you like the Browns. I'm glad this went well. But the Brown's social media team, we got to do better than this.

It's well written. It's center justified. It's super weird. Yeah. I noticed that. Center justified. What the fuck are they doing? Center justifying three paragraphs on an ACL surgery.

When's the last time you center justified something? It's been a while. Last night I sent her justified two parlias. I'm going to read them out because I've been in the dumps because two weeks ago, it was like Antietam in here. You know, it really was. Yeah. It was just hemorrhaging cash.

every bet I made went the wrong way and I was up on the season and then I was down big and now I'm down little because the last 48 hours and I probably had the best gambling night of my life I just want to if if you're a if you're a casino and you want people to listen to this pod and think about that dopamine hit that they might have this is the best ad read that I can give you okay I'm in a hotel room in Philly I decide early in the day I'm going Broncos plus eight for a solid bit on the ride up I'm thinking Cortland Sutton anytime touchdown. Some decent odds on that. But this is what the guy does in the red zone.

By the way, that cash was unbelievable. Okay, so I'm already playing with house money. I get on my Cesar's app where I've discovered that you can, all you guys have been using these Cesar's apps and stuff like that. You can get all these cool parlays and boost the odds way up. I've been taking these guys the fucking cleaners, man. They had a, they had a, that's. IRS is going to send you something in the mail about that.

Okay. Well, not that much to the cleaners. but last night a trader reviewed my bed for like five minutes it was actually kind of badass i was impressed i thought it was at the mexican border wow wow i thought they were like they were checking under the seats they were scared they wouldn't let you put the bed in why acting like you were maybe corlin sutton in the locker room or something i don't know because this was the well first i put it because i hit a couple of these sunday night i hit a really good one with the jets there was like four props hit it like plus 1,200 i've hit about one of these a week okay so i just want to read this out

because, you know, sometimes we're giving out the locks and people are like, you guys aren't that good, but we really win money sometimes, okay? And I'll start giving you these out because you guys are like, I want to tell you. That might not be the case if you look at all my parlayes, but how about this one?

Over 50, four and a half, Giovante Williams total rushing yards, bang. Over four and a half Justin Simmons total defensive tackles, he was at one at the half, over Will Lutz made field goals, one and a half. over a half Josh Allen total interceptions. That was plus 950. So I had a little house money that I was playing with.

And at the end of the game, the turn of events, man, Denver Broncos money line under 47.5, over one and a half touchdown passes from Russell Wilson. That thing was plus 1,700. And it was chunky. So I woke up in the Marriott this morning and I had to ask for assistance to get the sectional down to the lobby.

okay uh your boy had a nice monday night and i wanted to for those you at home who are battling through it like me just keep fighting you never know when you're gonna have a monday night like that this advice might make you go broke but that's the risk you got to take it's in the fine print this is the business you got to keep fired and real quick before we get to stanford steve did you listen to the new chris stapleton album and are you excited about the andre three thousand So that's what I was about to say. I've been so damn busy. You didn't know there was a Chris Stapleton album.

Hold on a minute, players. There's a new Kenny Chesney single. Oh shit. Take her home. So Chris Stapler got this album called Hire. And me and Coach Hagen's went out to the bonfire Saturday night after the Penn State game. And we were going to listen to the whole album.

But we hadn't talked in a while. So we were just catching up talking over the album. We decided to turn it off. I've been planning on having 40 minutes of six. it down. I have not had five minutes. So the Stapleton album's been going out almost five days now. Oh, I saw your wife today. Yeah. And, you know, talking small talk, I really talked a lot about how much and hard you're working. Thank you. She knows. Yeah, yeah. Believe me. She knows. Well, but I was like, yeah, we're doing a pod today. And she's like, today. I was like, today.

Yeah. No. That's Tuesday. Yeah. Calenders. I was like, like, guys, just works his ass off. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's good looking out. If I see your lovely wife, I'll do the same. Yeah, thanks. So I just wanted to shout out Andre 3000, his new work that's coming out.

It's all woodwinds. It's no rap, but I will be downloading a woodwinds album. New blue son. New blue son. This guy's been popping up, my favorite rapper of all time. If you had to, yeah, he's my favorite rapper.

And huge outcast fan. You can't you don't hear from the guy anymore. The only time you see him is walking around in some strange land playing a flute and somebody from America walks up on him in an alley and they're like, yo, you're Andre 3000. They laugh. They talk for like 15 seconds. Every time you see him, it goes this way.

And he just disappears in the night. And I've been waiting for him to make some music and now we get some woodwinds from Andre. He took a little page out of Ron Burgundy's playbook. It's going to be dancing around the club. Oh, yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly, aqua lung. So anyways, we have Stanford Steve coming up. Speaking of a woodwind.

You're going to fart? No, we got Stanford Steve coming up. Okay. Hey, one more thing. Did y'all see a Senate fight? Yeah. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. You want to run your mouth.

We can be two consenting adults if we can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold it.

Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? Have you pulled it? No, no, sit down. Sit down. You're a United States senator. Actively. Okay.

Sit down, please. All right. Can I respond? Mr. Schiff? Hold it. Hold it. Okay. Here's my take on the Senate fight.

And this is not a political statement, but I'm looking at two guys getting ready to fight and their senators and Bernie Sanders is the referee. Yeah. One of them's a senator. One of them's like a testimony, a witness testimony from the Teamsters union. The Teamsters. The Teamsters. The guys from the Teamsters.

And the guy from Teamsters talking about the other guy from Oklahoma. And the guy from Oklahoma, he's like, he heard anytime, any place. And so of all the times and places, he picks the one place where they're going to say, hold me back. The, the fuck, a hearing, dude. If you want to fight the guy, nothing but air and opportunity everywhere, but in that chamber. Yep. Just arrange it and fight the guy. You know what I mean?

this guy uses a podium behind the podium so he can stand on the he has a box that he stands on this is short guy energy yeah he knew bernie would hold him back somebody said come on my podcast he replied with a picture of him and a bunch of guns and he's he's like cocking the chamber and trying to flex his biceps this is like classic short guy energy i can't handicap the fight because i've never seen the guy from the teamsters fight but judging by this guy's theatrics i don't think he feels real good about an actual showdown with this guy if you want to dance do it on east street never fight with the teamsters they have powerful friends exactly dude that's why this guy might be minus 300 you know the trends after you play a really really physical team you lose the next week

after you fight a teamster you die so it's it's one of those things man i i don't know i just it's the most viral moment on the internet today Tuesday uh as of 6. 24 p.m. You know what the odds are that Andre's album is a good album? About minus 3,000. Okay, that's good. Let's get to stand for Steve. Whatever you're looking forward to this football season,

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instructions, odds, prizes, and restrictions. White Steve. Macon. Hello. What's up, Steve? Fellas, how are we? Oh, we're good, we're good, just got off the plane from Philly, you know?

We got any heat in the studio? It is actually chilly. I don't get it. what people's thing is with wearing beanie. Do you ever have a day where you're not cold or sick? Him, no. No, I'm always cold. Okay.

And I'm usually sick. That's a good observation by me. It is. I'm pro-beanie indoors. A lot of people comment and say, what is it cold in there? I'm like, I mean, try having your hair on camera every day. It's not always going to look good. Yeah.

It's not set it and forget it, lettuce. I don't have Evan Washburn lettuce. Oof. Could have used some of that lettuce in Buffalo. The middle of November, and the air is at like on, at about 66 upstairs. Okay, it's 66 upstairs. You know what it is in the fucking inside the NFL studio?

54. Wow. Okay, I haven't gone back to negotiating tables. I don't know if they're going to ask me back next year. But I just want to say this. If anybody's listening from inside the NFL, that's going to be item one on the contract is I need at least 66 degrees. I'm out there freezing my ass on.

You don't sweat underneath your armpits anymore, so you're, be fine. You can't sweat on TV. Yeah, you can't sweat on TV when you got Botox on your underarms. There you go. All right, so, so guys, a lot to talk about. Bills and Broncos. Guys, what's the first thing that comes to mind walking away from that game?

I can't believe they lost that game. Oh, I believe it. Macon? Bill's bad. Bill's probably bad. Do you remember, like, two months ago after, the Jets loss, we were in here, and you were like, you know, I was like, I could order the AFC,

so you remember what I said? Yeah, yeah, not Bill's first. Where did you have? Bill's last. And you said, you sure? New England? Well, I'm wrong. Okay. Okay, they're going to be third.

That's right. Okay. Here's the deal, dude. I don't want to overcomplicate this thing. Ken Dorsey got acts today. Josh Allen is the reason they're losing these games. And Steve, you've been on it from the beginning of the season. And Josh Allen, whatever adjective you want to put before the word quarterback with him,

for a while, you could say elite. Now it's erratic. Now it's self-destructive. Now what is it? Impatient. He can't, he doesn't have any patience. you talk to people that have played against them. You've seen kind of similar game plans as long as teams are comfortable doing it, Chris,

but just making him take the checkdowns and the short throws all the way down the field, he won't do it. He won't do it. I go back to the first, you know, playoff struggles. And then you think about the game they lost at Kansas City, you know, freewheeling, you know, fun and gun, the whole thing. that's his element. But when, you know, the Bengals,

even did it to Mahomes the next week, where they just said, all right, we're going to keep everything in front, no matter what. And we have the personnel to create pressure with minimal guys. And that combination, I think, has proved to be the factor in these turnovers. I just, it goes back to being impatient.

Take what's given to you. And it looks like he refuses to do that. on a consistent basis. And, you know, whether it's the three, you know, keep making him get in third down situations, where there's doubt now to run it. And then, you know, last night, back against the wall, they need seven, they go down, they get it.

The pressure's on, you see him thrive in that moment. But over the course of a game, where the, you know, the possessions are minimalized because the other team possessing the ball and frustrating him in another, you know, standpoint where he's just looking at the clock run, down. I just think teams have said, we're going to try and make you be patient, and he hasn't proved he could be it. Well, okay, time possession, Denver dominated that. Obviously,

the turnovers are bad. And it's not just the turnovers. It's where they're happening. Like, it's Cincinnati backed up. Fuck it. Let me chuck the ball into covers. I know well. Last night, backed up. Let me chuck the ball into cover too. It's like, I don't even know, I don't even know what he's thinking on some of these. And a lot of the turnovers they deal with are really mindless turnovers, like the James Cook fumbled exchange. It was like last night, I'm not saying obviously it's not the case, because I just think it's a case. But it's like he owes, it's like he owes somebody money on some of these, dude. I'm not like that he's not throwing the game. But some of these mistakes, you're like, dude, these are the types of, this is like headache

Smith at Arizona State type stuff. You know, like that fumbled, the fumbled exchange after they bench James Cook in the beginning of the game for fumbling of football, they have a player's only meeting, they come out, they fumble the ball, as if you need another wake-up call. James Cook does.

Then he throws the ball to Singleton. Singleton, if he was mildly a little bit more athletic, he might get two feet down, okay? There's one pick that could be. The next one, it's a bullet. I don't put that on him. But the one later in the game, it's like, what are we doing? And then to fumble that's, and then James Cook, too.

Dribbled it down the field. Dribbling the ball down the field. Simmons takes it off him. It's like you've been warned. You had a player's only meeting. Josh, how many of these do you have to do before you're like, maybe I shouldn't do these anymore? And I know he feels bad after he does it.

I don't think, like, if he were a serial killer, he'd be the type that would feel really bad after he did it. You know, he wouldn't be the type that's just like, this is what I do. I kill people. Like, what was that TV show? The guy that looked like you. Dexter.

No, we're talking about Steve Carell and my man. We forgot the name of the show already. It was a good show. Domel, Dommel Gleason. Domel Gleason. What's the, what's it? He wouldn't be, he wouldn't want to be, he would be, he just feels bad on the sideline. You can see him.

The patient. I mean, he knows he's doing something wrong. He knows he, he made a boo-boo, but he just keeps making boo-boos. And then, and then you factor in, like, that's why I say, Chris, being there, you could just feel the whole thing. It was like, all right, we got to the whole stadium. Shout out to them, too, the latest arriving people to the stadium because that's how much they love tailgating. That was very noticeable being in the field pregame, and it's awesome.

But you're in there. They're getting the ball to start the game. The whole place is ready to go. Let's go down and go up 7-0 for once. Having covered a game in five games in the first play. He makes the right play. He throws it to Cook. Cook gets ripped out.

And the whole mood of the place is, here we go again. Yeah. Like, I mean, one play. And I give him credit, they battle all the way back. You know, the horrible interception before the half where they got another field goal. You know, and then, you know, instead of being down three or possibly tied, if you don't turn it over, you know, you're down six or I think it was down seven. just as bad of a start and they just can't get over the hump with not making turnover and playing clean football. Like they just, they don't play clean football.

You can't win. I want to say one thing about Patrick Sertan getting his flowers last night. Maybe just based on reputation because I don't even think Josh really gave Stefan many chances. He was just looking at the other half of the field. He was because I was waiting. I had the prop. on, it was the last, like, one of my parlayes that hit last night was Justin Simmons over-tackles.

And he wasn't getting any work for, like, most of the game. No. So, yeah, I mean, he's a great player. And Josh on pace for 81 carries this year, last year was 124, year before that was 122. We've talked about that at nauseam, but maybe that's what it takes to shake it loose. When you look at a lot of these great drives that they've had over the years,

whether they're game-tying, game-winning drives, go back, look at the play-by-play. see Josh Allen for seven in a key situation. Josh Allen down the goal line late last night getting to the pylon. But you know what those two drives had in common? Run game. Chunks on the ground. I hate to oversimplify it.

But you got dominated in time of possession. How many yards per carry do you think the Denver Broncos went for last night without looking? Denver? It feels like seven, right? Denver. Denver Broncos. Or?

Yeah. I mean, it wasn't otherworldly. They just stuck to it. And I know they're playing a different game plan. But with Josh, they were the more efficient running team. They had more chunk yardage on the ground. They had more explosives. Feeding James Cook, feeding Murray.

Their best drive was the one that tied it at 15 after the fumble on the sideline, where they went tempo. They headed the ball to Cook three times in a row. And then they gave it to Latavia's Murray, the fourth play. And they went tempo. You know, like, I, I, I feel. feel like with you made a great point. Josh likes to go fast.

He's impatient. They want to go. Okay, but that's dangerous when you go long spells with three and out. And they're rushing three on third down. And Josh is just sitting back there. He doesn't know where to go with the ball. But the problem is if you go tempo and you don't have a run game, you're going to play yourself out of games because of this.

So in my opinion, you're back doing the 11 personnel stuff. It suits what you are, right? Like you want to put a lot of. on Josh, but you have to run the ball. You can go tempo, run the ball, satisfy your urge to go fast, but have a physicality about you. Because if you'd watch that game and you weren't paying close attention, you said, oh, Denver ran the ball. They did, but not really as well as Buffalo did. Buffalo just went away from it. Yeah, that drive was seven plays, 54 yards, three minutes. Only one third down was third and short and Latavius picked it up. And they had more

more rushing first downs last night, the whole thing. And I will say this, when it comes to Sean McDermott, because we're going to talk about Dorsey now, I think. But Sean McDermott has to bear some of this blame when it comes to last night because they made a lot of mistakes on special teams. I'll get to that in a second. But on defense, you heat them up the play before you get the PI. You don't go back to it again. He went back to it again. They get the PI. It's just a bad situation to be in. Play before Russell's drop of six inches was something to behold.

It was crazy. He didn't even drop back. He didn't even drop back. But Sean McDermott, these are one score games, okay? Ultimately, it comes down to the head man. And maybe this is a decision he has to make, because the one thing that I think people sometimes don't think about is a coach

isn't just X's and those. So Brian Davel goes to New York. And I know it hasn't gone well down there, but he had Danny Dimes winning a fucking play. game last year. Okay, the guy can coach. And I think more than anything, you assume Ken Dorsey and Brian Davel, it's just about comparing the X's and O's. It's also about, and this is an unknown commodity to me because I'm not in the building, how you rein Josh in, and how you coach him week to week on the game situations, who you're playing, understand the situation, eliminate

certain risks. There is a talking you through the scheme element of scheme. And I think like, Josh seems more prone to make mistakes in this chapter of his career. And I worried about that with Dave leaving because this is more who he is. And that's unfortunately the case. Like Josh Allen, if you had a draft and you started a team with any number of quarterbacks, I'm picking him towards the top because his top end ability is tantalizing. Like when he's on, there's nobody, there's barely anybody is good. But this might be who he is more than the other guy.

You know what I mean? The guy from the beginning of his career, Dable helped him cover it up, and now you've got this. But Sean McDermott has to take control of the football team, and this is a decision I guess he had to make. There's a lot of people in the analytics community, especially over the last 10 days,

who have been like, hold your horses. Buffalo is still the same team offensively. They're a top 10, they got EPA, they got all this stuff, all these fucking acronyms. I get it, like we use this stuff. But the result is not there, because in crunch time they're making these huge mistakes, and I think the way they're scripting games is kind of mindless.

And Sean McDermott has to get control of the situation. I know you lost a lot of guys on defense, but there's no big play on defense coming every week to bail you out of making these mistakes. And that's the, I think they've played good enough defense the last two weeks to win. Yeah. I mean, that's at Cincinnati, and that's here against the team that you gave the ball to four extra times.

You know, like that's, we were talking last night in the second half as we're getting ready to go out for the post game and it's, you know, Van Pelt, myself, and Ryan Clark and, you know, we're having the conversation about Josh amongst other quarterbacks, but then I just I thought about the dable thing with Ken Dorsey and Ryan said it perfectly.

I said, as a defensive guy, what do you think of the play calling? And he said, Ken Dorsey calls plays like a quarterback coach. Yeah. And I'm like, that's it right there. There's no stubbornness to try and run the football. There's no game playing. I think it's a lot to the Steelers troubles. You know, Steelers used to come out and run duo 25 times down your throat.

No matter what was going to happen, you were going to get that every game and you had to line up against that. And now you see Canada, I know everybody makes fun of the jet sweeps, but there's no stubbornness to say, we are going to do this and we're going to do it well. And we're going to keep doing it. So that's... You got to watch the new Steelers. though, by the way, from Sunday. The news Steelers, the Matt Canada on the sideline,

assistance coach. Yeah, here you go. Yeah, I mean, he can see down there. He's like, oh, my God, that Naji Harris is pretty fucking big. You know, that Warren, he's got a nice spin move. The kid from Georgia, he can, he can block. I need to run the ball. We're mandated to say no, Matt Milano, no Trudevius White.

No question. Last night, it was 26 throws, 26 runs, in 7.1 yards per play, but it doesn't matter when they're only 52 plays because he gave it away four times. When you turn the ball over, in a game like that, my argument to Kendor, see not that he can make an adjustment now

would be ride the run game when you're afraid that Josh is going to make those mistakes. I know you can't run the ball every play, but you were running it efficiently. As for the special teams, and this is where I was going with Sean McDermott, you lost the game on special teams. Make no mistake about it.

Two big returns in the second half, Denver basically averaged the 50 yard line, not they could do much with it for much of the second half, but eventually that broke your back. Obviously, the 12 men on the field was crazy, like insane. Football is a rough business, you know? Nobody wants that to happen, but ultimately on special teams, you lose the game.

And the crazy thing was Denver was trying to give it away on special teams. Like Denver was trying to give it away. And the funniest fucking thing, not funny actually, both special teams coordinators highlighted last night in the broadcast both veterans it's Veterans Day weekend and you guys play like this

for the fucking for the veteran special teams coordinators both these special teams were trying to give it away that's that's managing the team okay now I know Josh Allen's the reason they lost but Sean McDermott's on the hot seat and he probably should be there's a lot of close games they're losing now you remember when Joe Brady

interviewed for the Falcons job and the jet job and the Eagles job. Dude yeah I was really excited about Joe Brady for for a time that LSU year was magical and then Matt Ruhle fired him and the bills plucked him and and who's to say Matt Ruhl isn't just the hardest guy to work for in the pros and I don't mean he's a jerk but I'm saying like are you going to have a lot of success there did anybody have success in Carolina I want to give credit to the Broncos though before we move on because we always we always like go with the lead which is obviously the bills losing that game nobody expected it. it except for maybe us.

Broncos won you pretty nice little parlor. Kyle was on it on Monday. Nate was on the anytime. Steve gave it out as a lot. Steve gave it out as a lock. Okay, Steve, I hit this one last night. I hit Broncos money line, the under 47.5, Russell Wilson over one and a half touchdowns for like a nice chunk of change. It was a great night for me, and I want to thank Broncos country for making that possible.

You're welcome. And I want to give you guys credit because Sean Payton, and Vance Joseph have gone into the phone booth and come out with a change of clothes. I don't think they're looking like Superman, but they're a solid football team. They're four and five.

I think Miami hanging 70 on these guys. We just can't get it out of our heads, and I think it's helped make it easier to bet the Broncos in recent weeks. But I thought Russell was good. They're playing a lot of these third downs in a phone booth because they're focused on third and manageable. I thought he does look lighter.

Troy made a great point last night. Like he looks more elusive. He picked up a couple third downs with his legs. He leads the league in scrimble yards by a quarterback. He's quietly doing what they're asking him to do. And I just want to say this, Javante Williams, one of my favorite backs in the league to watch. You've got to bring your hard hat with him.

I thought they just put together a really good game plan. They figured out who they are. It's the same thing when they play Kansas City. Try to dominate time possession, run the football. We're bigger up front. miners is a fucking monster. We're built for power and we're going to make you make mistakes.

You know, like dropping a bunch of guys for Russ, dropping a bunch of guys for Josh, and eventually the rock's going to break. We just keep pounding it. It's going to break. I thought this was like a to a T what Sean Payton wants his team to look like. Yeah, 24 completions for not even 200 yards.

Hold on to the ball, Cortland. Yeah. And that throws on Russ, though. They made a good point. It's an easy first down, but the fumble is on Cortland Sutton. You said this maybe Twitter. How about that Buffalo defender reestablishing? I know he wasn't probably thinking I need to reestablish.

I don't know how that happens. It was crazy. Right, exactly. Like that ball squirting out in that confined space. And Buffalo coming up with it, I thought it was almost impossible. I thought so too. But really like a solid performance from the Broncos. And that's how they want to look.

They're physical. And the same thing. They got up to the line last night and did a lot of checks. You can see that. It was really interesting watching the guys from Buffalo, like almost sarcastically lean in. That must have been a real thing in the meeting room. They're going to get up to the line.

They're going to ID you guys. It's what they did to Kansas City. Those guys were all crowded up there. Russ is making his checks. And then they just checked to Javentai Williams anyways into a heavy box and gained six yards. So hats off to the Broncos. Just want to give you your props.

Bill's now plus 165 to make. the playoffs. Yeah. You could have it. Yeah, that's not money. Look at that schedule, man. The odds aren't long enough. It's brutal.

A lot of interesting stuff to talk about this week when it comes to NFL gambling. We had a nice weekend as a group finally catching up to making a little bit. Well. Well, we're not catching up. Yeah, you kept pace. But, you know, I think we're like a game back or something. Yeah, you're acting like this is the fucking, I'm trying to think of a division that somebody's running away with. This is the AFC North, buddy. We're just about 500. I can't wait

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Dukes. Yeah, I know. He probably got confused. He was like, oh, Duke's playing in Harrison. He was waiting four days for that one. Honestly, I just thought of it. Hey, I'm going to be honest too and sincere. Steve, best thing by far to do in Harrisonburg, Virginia,

drive about an hour to the south and the east. You'll find Charlottesville, Virginia. And you'll have yourself a good old time. Is Harrisonburg where Chris started? in the pumpkin? No, no, no, no, no. You're confusing that with Milford, Pennsylvania, actually. There's a few, just a few hectares north. Nice. Well, we, I mean, we do have a JMU insider.

Yeah, Cowboy Reed. It's worth, you know, us three could fire some questions at if we're going to make you. See, me? Okay, okay, first question I asked this earlier, do you have lights? Because the games are two o'clock. This is a big deal. Are there lights at your stadium? We've got big long poles. I can't confirm if there's bright, shiny things. So you might have lights.

They might be, I think they're in, they're being built right now. Game day coming. They're those ones that they wheel in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got wheels at the bottom. The fucking parking lot lights. No, I don't think that about your school. I think your school is pretty well funded.

I'm totally kidding. I thought maybe you just elected not to use the lights this weekend. And then the next question I would have is who do you play? Well, we play App State. Okay. So this is a big one. And they must be undefeated. Oh, I'm sure.

Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is two big, big brand. This is the Battle of the Appalachian Mountains here. Very similar schools are both tucked in the, in the hill country. Whose Jam U's most famous alum outside James Madison? I was going to say. Oh, Phil Vassar.

Phil Vassar. This is a Phil Vassar versus Luke Combs game. Ben Danucci. Bendonucci. Okay. Oh, no, Charles fucking Haley, guys. Charles Haley. Arthur Motes is up there.

FFT commenter. Yep. Eric. Steve Bucantz. Who? Yeah. Longtime Wizards. DMV.

Steve Buckhands. Okay. All right. So who's going to win? Give us the breakdown, Calvary. Gary Clark? Gary Clark, Jr.? Nice.

No, Gary Clark, the Redskins. Oh, you can't. No. You can't say that, Steve. I was thinking about the guitarist. Anyways, Reed, who's going to win the game? Well, I mean, we can't go wrong with the Duke's money line. But Jordan McLeod was just named a semi-finalist for

the Davey O'Brien Award. He's a stud, transferred from Arizona, good quarterback. We've got probably one of the best offensive lines, probably the best offensive line in the Sunbelt.

Oh, I think you're saying to say in the state. Thank you for saying that because I was going to ask what conference it is that JMU plays in. The fun belt. Yeah, the Funbelt. The Wild Belt. But, you know,

App State, they played us really tight last year. We went to the beautiful Appalach Mountains. I'm always nervous for these kind of games. but our secondary is not the tightest, but these freshmen, DeAngelo Ponds, has been playing really well. Yeah.

So look for a pick from Ponds. That's my prediction. Ponds Ponds pick. Anytime Pons pick. Question for the JMEU insider. Hit me. Harder to get into James Madison or App State. Oh, well, I got into both.

Oh, did you? Look at that. Flex-on-Colm, Cal-B. Yeah. Did you visit? I did. An official visit down there? official visit, yep.

They wanted me bad, but I wanted to stay, I wanted to stay in the Commonwealth. I bet half-state's a lot of fun. Bobstates, boom. Beautiful. It's out there. I also hear is a lot of fun. So we might join you in the fun.

We might drive up there. We'll check out Fittigan's Cove. We'll check out maybe backcountry. Yeah. So Saturday. We get making out of the house? No. So Saturday, I might see you, Steve.

I might see you. And Duke actually is going to be. Mike is, cap all caps, Mike. Might? Yeah. I mean, anytime you got three kids is a mite. I got you. You know?

But I saw how happy you were without those. Well, I was scouting out. That's just because it was your first time in the state album. Yeah, it was a long play. It was really about them. I was scouting out. I was scouting out Tea Town for my kids. We were picking out the housing and stuff for, you know, 15 years from now.

I just. And I got to go to Happy Valley this past weekend, Steve. We haven't caught up after that. Three for three. Yeah. So it could be three big time football atmospheres in a row for me. I was on the sideline, got to see Spice Adams. Brandon Graham was down there, Steve, and all his Michigan gear.

It was cool. Like totally different vibe from T-Town, but a really good vibe in Happy Valley. More like Sad Valley this weekend. Yeah. James Franklin decided to go for two. You know? James Franklin went on four. and six at the end of the game.

I was right there. I was like 30 feet away. I was, you know, maybe not how I would have drawn it up, but they got a hell of a defense, and I got to spend time with Anthony Poindexter, our good friend, Dexter, who's as good a defensive coach as there is in that conference. His players love him.

They got some studs. That number 33 kid, I know I was paying attention to that chop kid, 44, but 33 can really play, and he looks apart, man. So can 11. 11 can play too. They got some dogs. What did you think of Michigan's defensive line? Really good.

The whole group. I mean, there were a lot of great defensive players out there this weekend. And I missed in real time because I did hit the exits early that coach crying over Jim Harbaugh. I missed that thing. Not great tape for my man. You think Jim Harbaugh listens to the pod because he went on a rant about America's teams today. for like 90 seconds, dude. You think he listens to the pot.

He kind of defined the segment for us. Before we get into like... I got a hell of a segue way. Okay. But I don't know if it's where you're going, so I don't know. Use it. Duke, Steve, will be in the Commonwealth on Saturday

facing Virginia. Duke is coached by Mike Elko. Yep. And Texas A&M has a vacancy. That's a segue. Okay. So does Mississippi State. True, but Elko didn't.

Michigan State. No, I understand, but what's weird, and this is where I was going. Keep up guys. These fucking, well, these two teams played each other. They left, the two coaches left the stadium, and they both got fired. I think it's going to be the first time in the history of college football. Maybe a season ender. Maybe a season ender, but like in the middle of the season, pretty wild.

So were you shocked by the Jimbo thing? No. When you look at that school and I put, sort of every one of those schools in Texas in the same category. I shouldn't say that. You're a and, you know, you're, you're, you're oil money schools that have that and, you know, the deep pockets. To me, what's interesting to me is when you make the decision right now,

everything points to you have your guy. But talking to people there that cover the team, they don't believe they do. They just really didn't want him to go to Baton Rouge. and beat the Heisman frontrunner and gain back the momentum that they want. So they kind of just cut the legs from underneath the program. But on top of that, they can't handle where they are right now as opposed to where Texas is. They just can't do that.

And when I think about it, I compare it to Auburn and Alabama. That's what comes to mind when you talk about the in-state schools. and things like that. So I'm sure they have a plan. They have plenty of resources. That's the number one word you hear about. When you talk about the A&M job, if people want to rank it,

great, go ahead. In my mind, it's not a top five job. It's not even a top three. I should say it's the third best job in that division. BAM and LSU are better jobs than A&M. And when you look at it in its totality, I think about my lifetime, you know, take what you want with the COVID 2020 year,

an Orange Bowl win over North Carolina and arguing about, you know, being in the playoff. I'm sorry, I need more substance than that. And there's just not of eliteness in my lifetime with A&M. Great players, of course. Great fan base, school pride, the whole thing. It's a different place when you're going. go there. So, um, but they, they, they have a plan. But those things where I talk about

compounding the decision being made is what's, uh, very interesting to me. Chatwell, in another case of college football players being just regular motherfuckers when it comes to electronics, tweets from his phone, presumably, which shares his location, which is Stockville, Mississippi. And he's supposed to be in. in Lynchburg, Virginia, and he's in Stockville, Mississippi, and that job's open. Has he taken that tweet down, by the way? He did take it down.

Of course he took that tweet down, which is an admission of guilt. You could be recruiting is what I would have done. I would have said, hey, there's a stud down here. I would have offered a three-star guy to cover my tracks. The next guy's got to worry about it. You know, I'm going to be in Starkville. Somebody else. Just walk into some high school in Starkville and be like, hey, you got to come with me.

I will say there's more guys suited right now when you talk about taking the next step for the Mississippi State job than what A&M thinks they are. But hold on. What about like four straight top 10 recruiting classes? I know that can all go away in one offseason now. But the cupboard is stocked at A&M. Is it? Seems like it. I don't know.

Don't look at me. I just. I've, you know, obviously Jimbo's been stubborn in his ways. He goes to Petrino for the office coordinator. He's also gone through so many quarterbacks. And guys, that's the, I know it's redundant, but it's so true. When you look at these guys that haven't panned out at these big time jobs, when they take that step up and everybody wants to talk about how much money they're making,

they've struck out the quarterback position. It's unbelievable how many people have. have been tied to that position in that position dictating the success of the team and not panning out. That that's what's just so eye-opening. And I mean, you see it at the NFL also. But at this level, being dependent on it and with the portal and guys leaving and everything like that, it's crazy to see.

We used to make a big deal about Bobby Bonilla, right? Mm-hmm. Look at this shit. Fucking 70-something million dollars. Somebody put up. I hate it. I hate. It was eye candy, but this buyouts more than James made in his career.

Wild. Wild. At Florida State? No. No, not at. Okay. So I want to talk to, speaking to Heisman Trophy, dudes, let's talk about this race. Let's have the odds up here.

Yeah. It's a weird year, right, Steve? Like, very weird. Very weird. Is there a comp for a year like this that you can remember? I think the Devante Smith year is pretty close because people start deciphering. What's the award?

Best player, most valuable player, most outstanding player, most important player. And when I look at it, I get it. Jaden Daniels has been absolutely phenomenal. But if you're going to say best player, and then you look at the team success along with that, I still would side with Marvin Harrison Jr. He has been the reason his team is undefeated in the biggest spots.

He has come up big and reason his team has won his games. And then I hate to say it, but they are undefeated. They have a team that's undefeated and to me that weighs more when it's even, when it's even. I'm saying they're just as important to their teams. I think Marvin Harrison Jr. is more important. Now people are just going to say, oh, put somebody else at quarterback for LSU. I get it.

They're not going to be the same team. Jane Dales is awesome. I'm not taking anything away. I've said for three weeks before the Bama game that Jane Daniels was the Heisman trophy frontrunner, and I wanted to see him go in there and win. I said, I believe I said it on game day. If you thought LSU was going to win that game, just bet Jaden Dams and win the Hysman. He was four to one at that time.

and I believe he's right around 4 to 1 now. The issue is, you know, if Pennix runs the table. Yeah, if Pennix runs the table, it might be his. It's crazy. But Jane Daniels, there's no doubt should be in New York with a chance to win it. Three receivers have won the Heisman trophy. Tim Brown, Desmond Howard, Devante Smith. This is my favorite thing to do.

Can I read it at 2020 Heisman voting? Devante Smith beat out. In order, Trevor Lawrence, Mack Jones, Kyle Trask, Naji Harris, Maurice Hall, Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Ian Book, and Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts, your brother in the 10 spot. You're right. Yeah, no, I was once a 10 spot guy. But you didn't know that, I'm.

A couple people were zagging. They were just like, yeah, let me get this three, four defensive end from Virginia. Saw him play once on a Thursday night. So it is a, it's a weird deal this year. I mean, it's a weird award in general. general, right? And a year like this really underscores it because you start looking and you're like, well, it's, I don't know, whose team's going to be undefeated? Yeah, I get, I just, I look at the games. The games now that we have the next three weeks, Jayden Daniels is not going to be in the spotlight. Yep. I mean, they're out of the race in the SEC West. I look at panics with a monster, monster spot this week in Corvallis.

You know, Harrison's going to, I mean, if Harrison does what he did against Penn State, against Michigan and they win? Come on. Steve, a step further, New York Giants, if they own the number one pick, do you take a quarterback or Marvin Harrison Jr.? What about Brock Bowers? That's funny. I hadn't heard him win the, uh, won the, uh, Cochland Award lately, so I thought he was out of the... Well, he just came back and I was on the field, just a coincidence. Okay. I don't watch a lot of, I don't watch the SEC until the playoffs. It's kind of like the NBA

for me. Well, you're missing out because that fiasco with all your eagles on the sideline. Saturday night in Athens. Yeah. Holy cow. They beat the brakes off those guys. I did have one eye on that while I was listening. Is that a scene? Dex tell stories.

Man, that place is crazy. It was great. Okay, college football playoff outlook. What do we think? One of our, dude, one of our clips, sometimes I forget we even have a TikTok. Yeah. One of our clips on TikTok went for a millie.

What? Yeah, and I was just cringing because I was like, what did these teenagers hear us say? And, you know. They heard Macon spell Florida. Quite frankly. We didn't put in the STATE? You did.

Florida State. Okay. And some people seem to disagree in the comments about the Florida State take. I think it's Alabama. But if, I'm just like a Bayless type, you know. I'm not even thinking.

I'm just firing. Just fired. Okay. So what do we think, Steve? I also cringe when I saw that. We don't even have TikTok, but it's terrifying. The Chinese are like, this guy's an idiot.

What do you can spell? They're calling everybody over to the fucking computers over there. They're like, look at this guy. He looks like the guy in that Steve Carell murderer thing. So what do you think, Steve? I am going to be surprised if Alabama beats Georgia after watching Georgia in person. it is a team that is as connected as I've seen. They're not as talented as they've been in the last two years,

but man, they rally for each other. And Carson Beck and what he's done in the situation that he's stepped himself into, has been phenomenal. And I keep going back to a quote. I think Kirby said Friday on Pat show, or maybe, you know, he said it again on, on Saturday on game day.

And he was asked about players seeking attention these days. And he said, I tell my players, I want them to seek contact. And I'm like, that's the greatest quote ever. They do. They do seek it. Oh, man. They're pretty balanced, though, and they're deep, man. They don't have a top five pick right now in this draft on the defensive line.

But they play great. with knowing that their talent is in the back end. And man, do they run into the football. It's crazy because Ole Miss comes out. Lane, obviously, great game playing. They go right down the field, the first two drives. 14-14 game, you're like, oh, wow. And Georgia's just sitting there saying, all right, let's get back out in the field.

Can we please get back out on the field? That game ends up 52-17. I mean, they are just relentless in getting after your ass. And it's just so impressive to watch. and it's totally symbolic of their head coach. That's how Kirby goes about things. You talk about people that have seen them practice, about how hard they practice,

knowing that their schedule wasn't great at the beginning of the season, ones versus ones for the majority. With that, obviously you get injuries, as many injuries as they've ever had in September, and to see where they are, they're peaking at the right time. And normally, they're going to Knoxville to play Tennessee. They're a double-digit favorite.

Normally I would say give me the points. But after seeing Missouri run the ball and do whatever they wanted against Tennessee, I'm not sure Tennessee's cut out for this. They're going to need a monster boost from that home crowd and some balls to bounce the right way for them to pull this out because Georgia is absolutely relentless. Let me ask you something, Steve, because I want to know if I should really tune into the college football playoffs. Can you make the line between Georgia and Ohio State?

do that one first. Chris, that's about a pick. You really? Okay, then I might be watching this year. Okay. I think Georgia's going to be given like six to Bama. Okay. How about Georgia in Michigan?

Another pick? No. Well, Georgia's a favorite. By how much? Field goal. Yeah, more than, I'd say four. Okay. How about Georgia and Florida State?

Between seven and ten. Yeah. So it looks like Georgia, is dominant, right? You know, but you said it not as talented in years past. I think this has got to be the most wide open playoff in a while, yeah? No doubt. Yeah.

No doubt about it. Yeah. I mean, that's something to look forward to because I've lamented this almost every year, these, especially the first game of the playoffs, they're all blowouts or they're all two-score games. It's just not exciting. So I'm hoping this year we get some, I don't know, parody or something. Will the big 10 title game be 40-something to almost nothing again?

Probably. Yeah. We know what Steve likes at Neelan. Let's talk about Washington at Oregon State. You alluded to that big matchup, Oregon State, laying two points at home, 63 and a half is the total. Do you think Pennix can pass the test here? No.

Wow. I think this playing there, this is, like, look at what Washington, has up against it. They went to USC, all credit to them. Outscored USC, got through it. Drop the ball in the one yard line, which still drives me nuts and still get a win against Utah. Don't cover, though.

And now you look at what they have, going to Corvallis, and then playing Wazoo, the two teams that are going to be in the Pack 2 or the Tupac, whatever you want to call it. This is Oregon State Super Bowl. And then you look at Oregon State. They get to play Washington and then they go to Eugene to play Oregon.

It's as hostile, mean, uncomfortable setting you'll get in the Pack 12 for a road game. They want to be. They are absolutely vicious. And Washington's going to get everything, everything thrown out of them. And the thing that's different this year is that Oregon State is as capable as they've been in a long time. That run game is serious. I think that's a problem for Washington because now they've got to get up three straight weeks. I talked about Utah's matchup last week, how they're a physical team. They want to run the football. And then you compound that

with what USC wants to do and make your run all over to field. Now you've got to do it for a third straight week on the road when a team that just wants to give you everything. Oregon State's favored. like I think the writing's on the wall. I think Washington's in trouble here. If Pennix comes in there and pulls this out, I think the odds should really shift in his favor for the Hizman because this is as tough in his environment

as a quarterback's going to face as a night game in Corvallis. Is this like Texas Tech of the North? Yeah, yeah, more capability, though, because they do it running the football. I just mean the atmosphere. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a really good comparison. Yeah, like you might get hit by a battery.

Yeah, and then you got like raining, you know, it'll be raining sideways. It'll stop. It's, it's, I mean, they are on top of you in this stadium. And it's, you know, they have the ultimate. We were talking about A&M in Texas and then Auburn, Alabama, Oregon State's the ultimate, ultimate smaller program in the state. And they thrive on that, especially when Oregon and Washington come to town. So Washington's got their cut out for them.

We're cut out for them. It's going to take a serious, they have to be better than they were to last two weeks. How about a Pack 12 lock this week? Speaking of Conference of Champions. How about Oregon State? Beaves. DJ. Big beef.

How about an upset special? Anywhere in the world. I really want to take Stanford, but I can't. I don't see it. Looking, we got Stanford Cal. How about Colorado? Future. We haven't won in a long time.

A&M head coach Dion Sanders. You think Dion's going to jump somewhere? Yeah, I hear a lot of people throwing these scenarios out, and they're all interesting. But what's really going to happen there? I don't know. I don't know how, what the motive is there, because there's an opportunity for Shador to get drafted really high.

Yeah. And, you know, it goes back to the Caleb thing about him talking about, not being, you know, holding out for teams or I can make as much money in college. There's no way. Not in the guaranteed world. I know the, you know, the system changed with top quarterbacks in the draft, but I don't see that. So I will, I'll go.

I go Colorado. Buffs are a four and a half point dog at Washington State. And his kids wouldn't be able to play right away if they were to transfer because they've already transferred once, so they would have to sit out. So unlikely, I think, that you would see a move after this season. All right, STL Memorial Lock. Let's get a non-power-5 lock.

Jam you, come on. Okay, got to give it out. You've got to make friends with the people in Harrisonburg. Is this still? No, Reed, I did my research. Last time game day went, they lost. Was it a night? The first time.

Oh, you did? Yeah, we lost. The Richmond? Yeah, lost to Richmond in 2015. And then we won the 20, I think the next time it was in town. Who you've had game day twice? What's the weather over there in the commonwealth? This is like, you know, when Alabama has Moorhead State, they go to some little podunk town.

Yeah. It's like, hey, look, it's North Dakota. That's not nice. That's the bits. I've got nothing but loving. respect for my J.M.U. Dukes. I totally disagree what you're saying right now because I don't believe a second of it. They got three game days? Yeah, but it's like, hey, y'all are one double A. Formerly. Okay. Let's give out some awards. The Timmy Chang Award, which is the award that's

given to a football. Bestowed upon a football man. Weekly. We're going to do this every week, huh? Okay. It's to an FCS player. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Are you familiar with the Delaware Blue Hens? Yes, I am. Yeah, Joe Flacco. Good call. Rich Gannon?

Their quarterback, yeah, correct. Old Wing T-Dee days. That's right. Blue Hens quarterback Ryan O'Connor, 19 to 31, 21, 246 yards, four tuds. Blue Hens improved the 6 and 1 in the Colonial. I would think they were going to make the playoffs of an 8-2 record. If we have an FCC insider, I know Reed has graduated to FB. with James Madison going FBS,

but I'm pretty sure Blue Hens will be seen in that big bracket of the FCS playoffs. How about the Cochland Award, which is formally given to a tight end, but now it can be given to anybody. Yeah. Well, I was trying to give love. Shout out the, how about Butler giving the pod some shine?

How about Butler throwing the pot up on their social? Yeah, it really was, man. They had like the voice tone and everything. Go, Butler. Tip of the cap to whoever's running that account. Butler football. Who on? Cody Schrader, Missouri running back.

If you don't know the story, just absolutely phenomenal. I believe he's the first running back in SEC history to go for 200 yards plus on the ground and 100 yards plus in receiving. Just phenomenal. Tennessee is a defense that has not been run on against, and a lot of motivation for Missouri after Tennessee put 60 plus up on him the last two years. And shout out to coach drinking. in Missouri. That's a real good turnaround.

I would highly suggest Coach Drink for the pod as a guest. He is as charismatic of a guy as there is phenomenal. Even Trader. Shrader would be awesome. His story is incredible if you look into it. So Cody Trader. Isaiah Simmons Award. This award goes

to a guy that's just fucking jacked. I kind of want to give it to Nick Bosa just every week. Dude, you know what's crazy about him? A couple things that's crazy about Nick Bosa. Number one, the guy's built like a G.I. Joe, if they use 35% more plastic,

guys bursting from the seams everywhere. He walks around before the game, I'm convinced it's just to intimidate people. He's out there in barely anything. And every week, my dad just direct message me on Instagram because he doesn't like, actually, he's not, it's not like Howie Long's Instagram, it's just some alias.

And he'll DM me stuff every week. And one of the things that he repeatedly DMs me is just footage of Nick Bosa walking around. That's awesome. Because that dude is a fucking tank. Now, the second thing about Nick Boza walking around is, turn on the All-22,

end zone footage of that D-line, and tell me why Chase Young looks so much bigger than this guy. Yeah. I mean, it's just fucking crazy. Anyways, I just wanted to point that out, but this award is given to somebody who's just jacked. And when you see him in person, a la Isaiah Simmons Orange Bowl,

2019? Was that 19? Yeah, it was 19. What a year that was. Yep. I will add on the Chase Young, it's amazing to see how I'm always jealous of men with a lot of hair. Yeah. And Chase Young's hair perfectly matches the gold britches and the Niners.

Yes, it's pretty cool. Look, in the helmet. Don't like 92. No, I don't like 92. 92. 92 or 72? What's worse? Probably maybe 92. Because 72, it looks like you're not trying.

92, it's like I had my pick of the litter and I went with, you know, the only guy that made that look good is Reggie White. you ever. Reggie White and Strayhan. Yeah. And Wallace Gilberry. Okay. Simmons Award, easy. Amarius Mims tackle for Georgia.

First game back at seven weeks. First guy I saw walking onto the field. I'm like, good Lord, where did he come from? Looked it up. Cochran, Georgia. 6-7. 340, not an ounce of fat. And boy, can he move.

an absolute difference maker. You saw it with that run game, ran behind him a lot against Ole Miss, and he's like, when I talk about Georgia Peking, he's the guy, I think that makes them a next level where they get that balance of running and throwing the football. You will see him at early, early on draft night. Jesus, man, some of these guys,

they were literally five years ago, and they kicked my ass. It's like, good Lord. It's demoralizing. Look at the good things. It really is. It's a kid. I was just happy when I saw him, like there wasn't a mirror where I had to look at myself. Yeah, geez, this guy's huge.

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14, 14, and 2. Steve, 15, 15, making 16 and 14. Okay? This is not... This is not... Who's like the best gambler of all time? Probably Stanford Steve.

This is not Vegas Dave territory this year. Okay? But we're gonna push on. Second half is where we make our money. Who's going first? I guess this is the guy with the least wins, even though these fucking pushes. Yeah, you and Steve are tied,

but you have the fewer wins. so I guess you should go first. Okay. I'm going to go with some really icky plays this week. We're back to the icky plays. Hey, I'm, I'm,

I'm going to. I'm going to, I'm like, I'm going to do something really gross. Okay. I'm going to do something grody. Okay, I just got to find it.

Damn, that line's moved, huh? It's just Wednesdays or a motherfucker. Can I vote for what will be America's number one public play? Go ahead. Tell us. Houston Tech.

I know exactly. And that's why I guess I'll just go with the Arizona Cardinals plus four. It's a good pick. I like the pick. Yeah. And in fact, they might win. All I'm saying is Houston, Houston super banged up last week. You talk about like a letdown spot, come back home.

I don't know, they got through the game, but there's a bunch of guys on the list. This is a spot where nobody watched the Cardinals last week. Kyler's back. What's shocking to me is it looks like most of the tickets are on this. So, like contrary to what you just said, I don't know if you have a place that you access this, but it feels like a lot of people early on

were on the Cardinals. Maybe those are just the sharps among us. Cardinals plus four. Nice. It's a really gross week. Five double-digit lines. It's really, really gross. Let's get real gross.

Don't do the thing I want to do. Give me the Giants plus nine and a half. Great, great call. Steve. I don't know. I'll take my half right there to 10. Could be a great. I actually have it at 10, Steve, so you're good.

Oh, okay. Game changer. Save it. I'm running this pick to the podium. Okay. Miami Dolphins, whatever the number is. Do you think people are that swayed by what Vegas has done the last two weeks? Yes.

You do? Yeah. No. I have a hard time believing sometimes that people are like, yep. you know i i honestly think there's people that still just bet miami blind knowing that they had them when they scored seven exactly that's what i said about the broncos it's like that that that game that that just won't get out of your head okay my next pick let's stick with the ickies the sticky ikees okay easy i got one chicago okay i like these division dogs catching double digit points late

in the season maybe justin fields will be a maybe justin fields will be back I don't know. They just went out west, and that was a slug fest. Now, I have every reason to believe Dan Campbell's going to have these guys ready to play. They're going to win this game by nine. But this is a spot where maybe the Bears can backdoor cover this thing. Bears plus 10. All right, Steve.

I'm taking it because I love taking them every week. Eagles plus three. God darn it. That might be a good spot for that half point. That's a really good thing. We'll see. Early candidate. It's like I forget to give out the Eagles because,

automatic, I'm going to bet them. I think if you guys go back, I've had them every week they play. They are profitable. All right. My turn to wade into the Icky waters. Don't do it. Taking the Carolina Panthers. Okay. At home plus 10 and a half points

against the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, and I'm running this pick to the podium. The Jacksonville Jaguars minus six and a half. I'm going to give you my half point right now. I'll take the I'll take Duh Bears

No I'll take Dug Cardinals Yeah You should take your half point On lower spreads Yeah It's more important All right so who are your three

So I got the Cardinals plus four and a half The Bears plus 10 And the Jags minus six and a half If the Chargers Played the Bills in Charlottesville Who wins? The Bills Okay

They would have a packed stadium There'd be no Chargers fans there Exactly It would be a home game Dude I was asking people Where they drove from To go to that game last night It's incredible

Yeah, wild And that drive home has to be Woof Wow, am I gonna take that It's overreaction the Monday night Can't do that No, I do like that though I like the Broncos

You take the Niners, okay Yep 11 11 and a half 11 and a half I guess Oh yeah Use my half on the second one

Okay Okay so he's taking the Eagles Plus three and a half That's where he's buying his half point I cannot wait to hear this third pick make He's in Ickyville Well I'm gonna go back I'm out of the I'm out of it

Okay Can I guess Sure Okay I think You're going to take would you consider the Buffalo Bills, Icky? No, I would not.

Gosh, you know what? I'm not really sure what you're going to do. I think you might take the Chargers. Nope. Okay. Here's what I've decided to do. I have a short list of teams that I like, and then I've decided when I'm in here in the room,

I'm going to hear what's being picked, I'm going to think, I'm going to pivot, I'm going to be nimble, kind of like last week with Dallas Cowboys minus 16. Is this the first time you ever used you and nimble in a sentence? Nope. Nimbly, bambly. And there is precedent, though, for what I'm about to do.

And that is a three-point spread. Opposite my competitor, Stanford Steve. I'm going to take the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday night by the half point to minus 2.5. Oh, the intrigue, the drama. So we're in the same scenario as nine or nine. Jacks. Manish Jags. That's right.

I'm with Steve on this one. Chris, I got a question for you. First time to Arrowhead. I'll be there Monday night. Yeah, pretty amazing, dude. You've never been there? No. It feels like...

Hold, one second. Yeah. Is it as close to a college game as that gets in the NFL? Yes. Buffalo's up there, but the stadium's not as, I don't know, ancient feeling. I still can't believe the wind. Buffalo. It's just, you know, that retro George Jetson, like, Chiefs looking sign, you walk in

there, everybody has retro starter jackets on. Love it. I had the first starter. Chiefs. Derek Thomas was my guy. D.T. It's amazing, dude. It's an amazing experience.

I got to go there and play in the preseason a couple times when I was in the league. The thing I'll never forget about this place is we had a lightning delay in the preseason. Nothing worse than that. You're going to be there like three more hours. we had to stand that little cramped locker room. They've got these tiny wooden stools with the Chiefs logos, like burnt into them, and there's about 100 heads in a room about the size of this room.

So it's cramped, it's old, it's one of the few holdovers from that era with all the Cali Stadium going away. One tunnel, it's really cool. It's really cool. I DM Travis. I said, I'll see you on the field Monday night. Shocker. I haven't heard back.

Yeah, but it could be breaking news on the pod. I don't know if he's going to, I don't know if he's going to be there. Really? Just kidding. Oh, you wouldn't have picked the Chiefs. Golly Day. I picked the Chiefs. You picked the Chiefs.

Oh, okay. Well, he wouldn't have picked the Eagles. I don't. No, he picked the Eagles. I'm confused. I just want to see Jason Kelsey film as a running back. That's all I want to watch. Jason Kelsey film doing almost anything.

Yeah. Hey, here's, the thing I like to see on film Jason Kelsey, he told the story in the pod once where he got he was on like a party yacht on like some lake maybe was like the one near cleveland and he fell off the boat and he got like trapped the the rope tied around his ankle and he went out there to take a shit in the water i guess am i butcher in this story read no no no you're you're he poops in the water so he he he didn't take a lake dump he tied himself up so that just in case the boat left he wouldn't get left behind well the boat left So he's taking a deuce in the lake,

and it's like full speed ahead. He's tied to the back of this boat. His life is a movie, dude. He got sexiest man alive, number two, despite that. I mean, the guy's incredible. Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer, for sure. Hall of Fame person.

Who was in that apartment when you were with the Eagles and you guys did part of my take? Oh, I don't even remember. Who was in there with me? That was Jason. It was Jason. Yeah, you Jason and Lane? And Lane after a game, I guess we were going to get drunk.

And first we had to do a podcast. But those were the days. I was with those guys this morning. I'd see Lane, the whole crew. Could see Big Dom. That's awesome. Anyways, here's a deal. Big Dom. Big Dom wears glasses now.

Big Dom is the coolest guy on the East Coast. He runs that city. He runs that city. These guys on highlight videos. What other security guard do you know, they set you to music just walking on the field? No. I mean, he's got a presence about him. The Rick James ORA. Let's go through this slate as a whole.

Okay, Bengals Ravens, I am apt to bet the Ravens. You guys have it here at four. I've seen it at three and a half. This is a classic by the half point. Take the Ravens, in my opinion. If the Bengals don't have Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard, they're not going to win this game.

You're right. You're right. The Ravens are going to win this game. I wish I could go back and pick it. I'm not going to do it, but take the Ravens minus three and a half if you can get them. buy the half point if you can.

I just like the Ravens in the spot. It's bounced back for both teams, but I think the Ravens are just more physical right now. Steelers, Browns. Where do you lean on that, make? Thursday night. Fuck, I already told you, we're doing Thursday night time machine.

It's okay. You're going to fucking, there we go. I lean Steelers. Yeah. Steelers. It's the division and four points is typically too many points in this division. Yep.

I don't know. It's a, it's a Z. on the Brown's win, which, by the way, no one has congratulated me on. And Kyle hasn't paid me my $300. Well, to be fair, you shook on a money-line bet and then you wanted six points. True, which I wouldn't give him. I wasn't given the six points. Kyle, to his credit, called me right after the game and it said...

He gave you your money? No, but he acknowledged that he was going to give me the money. He said it was going to be cash. Okay. Cash app. Cash app. We don't do Venmo. We do cash app.

There you. I agree with you. Steelers in this spot. 36 and a half on the total As it shows right now If you get it at 37 or 37 and a half If you want to buy up I mean that key number there

Has been good to your boy this year In a Steelers Browns game I feel like this is a decent place to be Bears Lions I told you where I lean there The total is 47 If I had a lean I'd go over Cowboys Panthers

Just seems like a sleepy spot for the Cowboys Yeah it does It really does I don't hate to pick it all 42 is the total I'm not touching that total. I have no idea. Cards, Texans, I told you what I think.

Raiders, dolphins, we've got to pick in there. Steve, do you happen to be on the other side of that? Of Raiders, dolphins. I like the over. And then not because they had no Connell. Yeah, no. Chargers. There'll be some, they'll get some stuff.

Maybe Josh Jacobs. Yeah. Chargers. I do love the Dolphins D-Line, though. Chargers Packers is an interesting one. Chargers win, they go to the playoffs. He pointed at the camera for the people at home. He's like shooting a wrestling promo.

No one's watching. To be fair, we have a growing YouTube community. I've just said that's Scott and I. Scott and you, nobody's watching. Nobody's watching. But let me, Chargers Packers. What do you think? Packers catching three at home,

Chargers win if they go to the play. Or Chargers go to the playoffs if they win per Steve. Why did nobody take the Chargers minus three? I don't know. We really should have. I think I had the Packers, the majority of the weeks to start the season. I said this was my last stand when they didn't cover.

And then I went against them last week and won. So the Chargers were on the list. I just, like the Chargers last week against Detroit, they play well enough to win and they can't win. Yeah, but you know what? They kind of got let off the hook in the first quarter. Detroit was bludgeoning them. I don't know what to make of that game.

Seahawks Rams is another interesting one is basically a pick-em. The Rams are favored at home. I don't think a lot of people are going to be on the Rams. I don't know for sure. Stafford's coming back. If I had to, I might bet the Rams in this scenario. Really?

Yeah. Why is that line the way it is? Seattle now favored by a point. Seattle favored by a point. So if you go from a dog to a favorite, it not a good sign in the NFL. Correct. Okay?

I just, I'm dying on the hill that the Seahawks are a very good team. I'm dying on the hill that, hey, on my hill, you got to convert third down and execute in the red zone. And you know what? You've been up way more hills than me. No, it's just a hill. That's a hill that I'm willing to climb is that the Seahawks are a good football team, but until they do that, I can't trust them.

And I'm more apt to bet the other side. Jets Bills, it is so gross to me. but I will definitely end up 425 teasing the bills with somebody even though they're burning people on teasers left and right, New England, you know,

Denver, this is a tailor-made situation where Josh throws three picks nobody's going to be on the bills or is anybody going to be on the bills? I can't decide who anybody's going to be on the bills. Yep. Last stand.

Why don't you tease those? How many last stands do they get? Why don't you tease this is it? General Custer died. I didn't give the close stand at all. Custer just died. died. They didn't give them another last stand.

Now, somebody at home's like, I've read it. This is Buffalo. Okay. Tell me why you wouldn't tease the Jags and the Bills. That's a great teaser right there.

The only reason why I might, yeah, yeah, because they, you get a little action on the Jags and the 1 PMs, so you feel like you want to bet, even though you didn't, it's a good feeling.

And then you just sit back and watch the 4 p.m. I like that. Vikings Broncos, now this, and maybe you guys can help me here. I got the Vikings under wind total, as you know, annually. It's been good to me.

But now I feel like I'm on the wrong side of it. I went and I found a live wind total of eight and a half currently. So what I could do, and there's a little bit of juice here, juice being you know, you lose this bet, it's minus 160 for people at home. It's too entice you to take the other side of it because they think it's probably likely if the Vikings go over or they're balancing money on one side of it, I think I can get out of this thing like Scott Free

or maybe a little bit on the plus side and just root for the Vikings now. I've never actually tried to cover my tracks on a win total, but I might do it for Josh Dobbs. Would you guys do it? Broncos, Bears, Raiders, the next three. I know. If it's going to be over, it's going to be over fast.

You got a hedge. You get to root for Dobbs that way. Exactly. Exactly. And if they go under, it's fine. Yeah. Those hos playing with a lot of confidence. The hose?

Broncos. Oh, okay, yeah, they are. And that's my point. In this spot here, as bad as I want to turn this thing around, I feel like this might be a Bronco spot. The physicality on this team. Do you know the last time you used that sentence? What?

You said, I think this might be a Tampa Bay spot last week. You were correct. I was right about Tampa Bay. So maybe I just do it again. Yeah. But maybe I also buy the wind total and wait for them to lose and then buy the wind total at a lower number. What do you think?

Maybe some people say cucumbers taste better pickled. They do. And then Monday night we got Eagles Chiefs. Guys, happy hunting. This is a weird weekend. We're going to either look really good or really bad. Two of us. One of us is just going to keep winning.

Yep. I wish you guys luck. Shout out to Brian Branch. The Branch. Steve, take care. We'll see you in Harrisonburg. We might see you, Steve. I know you're out.

Yeah, he's out. I still love you, though. Love you. Take care. Bye, guys.