Green Light with Chris Long - Steelers Win AFC North, Seahawks Earn NFC's #1 Seed & Wild Card Matchups | NFL WK18 Reactions

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

The 2025 NFL Regular Season has concluded! The Pittsburgh Steelers but a bow on the games on the NFL Week 18 slate with a last minute victory over the Baltimore Ravens to claim the AFC North title and... a playoff berth. Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson put on a clinic in the 4th quarter but in the end, Mike Tomlin got the better of John Harbaugh. The Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos are the #1 seeds for the NFC and AFC divisions in the playoffs and the Raiders have the #1 pick in the 2026 NFL draft. Chris, Beau and Nate breakdown the decisive games from week 18 and lookahead to the NFL Wild Card round and also review the teams the Head Coaching firings from across the NFL as Raheem Morris, Pete Carroll, Jon Gannon and Kevin Stefanski will be looking for new jobs while the Falcons, Raiders, Cardinals and Browns are looking for new head coaches.The fellas also celebrate Myles Garrett's claim to the NFL sack record! (00:00:00) - NFL Week 18 Reactions & Dawg of the Day (00:08:15) - Best Flight & Worst Flight (00:19:45) - Pittsburgh Steelers Beat Baltimore Ravens For Playoff Berth (00:34:15) - Houston Texans-Pittsburgh Steelers Lookahead (00:43:20) - Buffalo Bills-Jacksonville Jaguars Lookahead (00:59:10) - LA Chargers-New England Patriots Lookahead (01:07:25) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers Beat Carolina Panthers But Miss Playoffs (01:16:00) - LA Rams-Carolina Panthers Lookahead (01:18:50) - Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints (01:24:10) - Seattle Seahawks Win NFC West Over San Francisco 49ers (01:36:35) - San Francisco 49ers-Philadelphia Eagles Lookahead (01:50:45) - Detroit Lions vs Chicago Bears (01:52:55) - Green Bay Packers-Chicago Bears Lookahead (02:01:00) - Myles Garrett Breaks Sack Record (02:09:40) - Bermuda Triangle: Kyle Long Calls Chiefs-Raiders & Giants Lose #1 Seed (02:20:45) - Locals Landline Presented By Zone (02:30:10) - BetMGM Moments Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: If you want some Black Friday merch, check out our sale:https://greenlightpodcast.shop/?fbclid=PAZnRzaAOR1RFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAad3Jup6i1N2qH77pK8eUeSbKt2Y0OXMldIw1dRTq_xDRuY3Ctp99Qj4pfyGAw_aem_w9tp_XwGL-ZptFIHvlrM1g Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Gameball probably goes to Mike Tomlin because that was, as I said, that was a Mike Tomlin spot. We should have seen it from 10 miles away. I think he's basically what would happen if John Madden and John Gruden had a baby and just fed it all the food in the house for 35 years. It would be how long? Imagine you go up there and you have four sacks. Like, you call me Josh Allen. I'm going to live. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:35 a bottle of basil hayden holy shit happy monday to you chris yeah it was just gifted to me i've tried everything it was just gifted to me by one trevor knight shout out of trevor night one of the best baseball players that i ever played with him and his brother kirk
Starting point is 00:00:52 anyways he stopped by the studio and gave me a bottle of basil hayden so if you need me to sign a jersey this is pretty good etiquette right here like honestly i'll sign as many jerseys as you want for what a bottle yeah if you're gonna bring gifts you know somebody hit me up and was like yeah you're gonna how do you get and i like the guy that hit me up and everything but he was like yesterday he goes hey how easy is it for you to get three wildcar tickets to the eagles game i'm like dude just as easy as it is for you brother i was like i'm gonna have to pay for him you know i'm like
Starting point is 00:01:29 did you look online i looked at stub hub there's like a million of them but obviously they're expensive the question, Bo. Did you have a good time yesterday? Do you regret going? No, I loved it. I have small regrets. Oh my God. I look terrible. I have a little bit of auuettes. Here, this is Basil Hayden. Please don't spill it. It's free for me, but it wasn't for Trevor. Here you go. Here's the cap. Fuck, I dropped the cap. We're just going to have to keep passing it. This is whiskey. I thought this was the T-A-C. Whiskey. I got the Willie's reserve. coming out later in the show. So go ahead, Bo.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Tell us about yesterday. You were at that game. I was at that game. It felt great to be back in the link, Chris. But I did a brand partnership with Vaseline. I was the Vaseline king yesterday. Yeah. Basically, I completely lathered myself up with Vaseline, wore minimal clothing,
Starting point is 00:02:29 and enjoyed the week 18 game at the link. And it was chilly. I was chilled, but thankfully, I had the warmth of, you know, seeing old teammates like BG and Lane. You know, that kind of warm me up a little bit, but I got a little cold. It was fun to be at the link, man. All that good stuff is great to be back. This first round of the playoffs is hard to predict, but I will make one prediction that Bo is going to be sick this weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Like, you just look drained. You look like I'm feeling a little sick. And you're feeling a little sick. I'm feeling a little sick here, bud. And I'll see in two weeks if it's what I have. have. I mean, fuck, you know, I'm looking at the monitor here. I'm like, holy shit, Chris, you, you, you don't look well. My skin's moisturized, though. Now, do you want to tell them about like the whole, the whole thing? Yeah. I mean, it was a fun day, man. We got some good content. We, we visit our friends over the people's bench in the tailgate lot. So, so that was a good time. But no, I mean, basically, I mean, it's, it's pretty, it's a pretty fun deal, man. I was freezing my nipples.
Starting point is 00:03:35 off. I think I was the most naked person in the link. But yeah, I mean, Vaseline, Chris, as you know, it protects your skin from the drying elements of the cold. So thankfully, even though it was a little chilly out there, my skin was nice and hydrated. And that's why it looks so good and glowing on this pod today. Shout out to Vaseline. Shout out to Vaseline. Dude, I literally was so disgusting after the game that I hit a big dom and went down in the locker room and showered. Like, I was waited a little bit. Is that unreal? I waited a little bit for the locker room and the media to clear out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And I just waited and I was showering. And Jordan Milana was like, he was in there. And he's like, hey, Bo. You know, his Australian accent. Yeah. I was like, what's up, man? And he's like, uh, he's like, well, it's good to see you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. I was like, all right. I'll see later. Yo, dude. I was found so bad. Just like full day of wearing nothing. you know covered in vaseline contractually obligated to wear no shirt in vaseline all day which is great i loved it it was fun had a lot of giggles and ha-haz but i need to get that shit off and i was like i have to
Starting point is 00:04:43 shower so yeah have how bow just waltzing into the locker room after a loss and being like hey yeah can i can i uh yeah you got an extra towel like i unreal dude unreal i didn't get my shorts on my shorts in person it's it's it's just like When you're not a part of the team, I just feel like it's weird to break the barrier of like seeing, you know, just having your piece out. It's not your locker room anymore. Bo, did you join the media room? They were lucky for that. Did I join the media scrub?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Like, yeah, did you stand there? Like, you know, people asking you questions. You should have stood in the middle with your towel on. Yeah, exactly. Just leaned on Jeff McLean. Well, anyways. We missed you, Chris. We missed you in Philly.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You would have had fun. Yeah, and I just want to say this. I love going to football games, but you don't see any of the football game. You don't. Like, you don't. You drink and you pay for that the next week. And you talk to a billion people and you don't see the game. And then those same people when you do the show on Monday are like, you didn't watch the game.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I'm like, I know, because you told me I needed to go to the game. I'm not going to the game this weekend. I just want to get that other way. The three people, not a lot of people, but three people asked me. including Bo on the phone. Bo was trying to pressure me, put me in a group text. Hey, you're coming up the game, right, Chris? No, I'm not coming up to the game.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I'm going to watch at home because I'm fucking nervous about everything. Oh, we're not going to Jacksonville? No, we were never going to Jacksonville. He tried to say, should we watch, should we do a live watch? You said, maybe. I don't know that I ever said maybe. I think a few weeks back on the show. Maybe I did.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Maybe I did. Josh Allen goes down. You were like, oh, yeah, maybe. But you know what? As a parent of three, let me explain to you what the word maybe means. Like, let me, I don't want to say no right now. I'll say it later. I get it.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I don't want to go anywhere. We are going to live stream it. Me and Nate, one of us is going to be like in agony on the live stream. And I feel like it's going to be me. Honestly, we'll get to that game, it a little bit. The Jags are a wagon. They're a wagon. They are.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Let's take a shot to the Jags went in the South. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. You know, we got this helmet right here. Salute. But also, because it's playoff time, what do you all think of that? That's fucking smooth. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Was that smooth or what? That's smooth. That was good. I might start drinking again. Mr. Hayden. Damn. I don't know the last time I had whiskey. That was really good. Whiskey.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Wow. Not for me. Okay, I'm ready to do the show now. Dog of the Day, before we get in the best of my bus way. All right, dog of the day. The Dog of the Day goes out to this dog right here. It's on the screen, everybody. Dog of the day.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Dog of the day. No. No way. Dude, you should have put up, you should have put up JJ McCarthy. He was barking. He's the dog of the day for me. That Chargers defense gave them a full 60 minutes of football. That's second team.
Starting point is 00:07:58 First seed. Doesn't matter. Number one. Who else is number one? Only one other team. That's true. That's true. Only one other team. That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Two best quarterbacks in football. Donald and Nix. Damn right. Okay. Best flight, worst flight? Yeah, we should do that, shouldn't we? I'll start. Best flight.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I just want to make sure I don't get snipe this week. Oh, I don't want to get snipe. Well, Best flight, all the passes that traveled versus the Jets defense this year. They all landed safely. Was that yours? Nope. Okay. But all the past.
Starting point is 00:08:34 passes they finish the season without a single interception which is insane considering the coach that used to be his job to intercept passes yep hey what are you guys going to do well this year not intercept passes i don't know how to explain that to these guys dude dropped the gimmie too during the game who dropped the gimmie yesterday did somebody yes no shit like they they had a legit chance at one and it was like the whole stadium and everyone was like oh one of the texans His backups had one of the worst drop picks I've ever seen. It hit him so hard in the helmet yesterday. There was a lot of bad ball being played yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:11 A lot of bad ball. Okay, my best flight, all the passes against the Jets. My best flight. I'm giving it to Josh Johnson. Yeah. Going out there getting a win. I don't know if they were saying that maybe he's done after this year, but he's been on, there's a clip of him saying his journey
Starting point is 00:09:30 throughout his football career, there's all the different spots and teams that he's played for. And just like being a, what, like a career backup going in spells, I think he's only had a couple of starts his whole career. And if he is done to go out with a win, doesn't matter how you get it and you play well. 11 career starts. 11 career starts.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Good for him. Yeah. Josh Johnson, man. That's a pro football player right there. He's in it for the love of the game. 11 career starts. Two wins. 12 and a half million dollars career earnings.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You know what? To be a little slow. Could be a train ride. I don't know how they got home. That's always nice. But it's quick. It's even better than the flight. You might be on to some.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And the season's over. So it's like. Yeah, we can all Mekinos on three. Oh, yeah. Mekinos on three. I got something for later, but can't cool. Speaking of Mekinos. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:29 That's actually my best flight, Dr. Fax. because Jemar Chase is going to Cancun, baby, and he seemed pretty pumped about it. What did he do? Yeah. He said in the thing. That's what? Jamar Chase going to Cancun on three, he said?
Starting point is 00:10:40 No, basically, the reporter's asked us, so what are you going to do? And he was like, oh, I guess I'm supposed to go to Cancun, right? So I'm going to go to Cancun. Hell yeah, dude. That's it, Lynn. He's fucking hilarious, dude. He is so funny.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, so also, they're getting a lot of practice at that. You have, like, a couple favorite resorts down there because the last couple of years, this has been a thing for them. Yeah. Unfortunately. Worst flight.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I got mine. Tyler Loop. Oh. It doesn't get like it doesn't get worse. Guys, what did I say last? He's gonna miss it. I said, I said, or a touchdown. He'd, I don't trust him.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I said, I said this guy. Now, I might have been on Ravens minus three. But he was eight for eight from that rain. It didn't matter. The spot was too big. I saw it in his eyes. That place they doused Holy Water on the state. stadium. God was in the way, dude. And, and they said he's a, he's a God fearing kid, though.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Well, evidently, he should have brought his holy water, dude. God picked the Steelers, man. That's how this thing works. It's kind of like at the end of the Tampa and Carolina game when they were all in a prayer circle. They were all silently praying for different teams. And God was like, any, me, me, mighty mo. Everybody knows. God just wants you to walk across across the United States, Chris. Oh, that ain't that's what it is. That ain't happening. That ain't happening. That ain't happening. I got people hitting me up being like get your walking shoes on i'm like hey i let you in on a joke that doesn't mean that all of the sudden now you know the Steelers do one good thing i'm walking across the country they're going to win four games no yeah but you guys you yeah it ain't gonna happen man
Starting point is 00:12:15 it can't douse holy water one thing on their side though is they're about to get decay back on two weeks of rest i know that's incredible like at the end of the year that no i know texans fans in the front row they got to watch out He's going to be fresh. No, dude, I got you, listen. We'll get to that game in a second. I got respect for what they did, but I'm not walking across the fucking country. I'll tell you when I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Okay. Right now, I'm just annoyed. Two wins by them, you scared? No. Oh, okay. Cool. No. It would be good for the pod.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It would be good for the pod. At the end of the day, even walking across the country would be good for the pod. It'll be amazing because they'll put it all over everything. Oh, for sure. my wife would leave me for sure she'd be like no like you're not it takes a year dude it literally takes a year i looked it up that's how that's how paranoid i got about it the other night i told you i took a couple days off from the wacky tobacco i got home and one thousand and nine hours and i'm doing a fucking i'm doing a like a deep dive on it and i'm like are you afraid someone actually
Starting point is 00:13:27 called in and said you should walk from jacksonville to Santa Monica rather than Virginia Beach to San Francisco because it shaves off 600 miles. I just watch O'Brother Where Art Thow kind of feels like the same kind of journey. Honestly, I'll be walking through Mississippi and shit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, take 40 West. Yeah. I might not make it out of Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Everybody's going to be like, aren't you one of the ones that didn't believe in us? Bow, pow! You should change it to hitchhike across. I can't change it. I already said it. So, I mean, I mean, it's still early enough. Like, no. So that it's what you're, so that it's a bad.
Starting point is 00:14:06 That's a bad. I've done this before. That it's somewhat doable. That is somewhat doable. Like you said, you just can't walk. It is doable. I can walk across. But like hitchhiking and getting people to take you.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Dude, there's nothing more I'd like. Nate's, Nate's going to reverse psychology thing on you right now. You can't do it. Dude, some guys would kill for a chance to walk across the country alone. Seriously. I mean, that guy is kind of you, the one who fucking. wanting to float in a pumpkin like i mean walking across man and honestly i might rather walk
Starting point is 00:14:37 walk across the country again than or then do the pumpkin again that was a motherfucker i know i know that's what i'm saying all right so let's let's all right tyler loop can you imagine dude your life's different now i'm not even being funny your life is different it's it's never going to be the same this is i always say this flip side of the privilege of playing sports is nothing can happen to you that embarrassing in the privacy of your home that, like, is going to change. Wherever he moves, he's Tyler Loop. It's in his head the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Anybody know where Tyler is right now? So you need it at home? He's in Buffalo, presumably. Is he? I mean, they don't have a kicker going into the playoffs. Yeah. Injury. Injury.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah. But he's probably holed up in his house. He's probably dealing with a lot of issues. That's the thing with Tyler Loop, man. And then after the game, like Lamar, I think was really mad at him, and he should have been. You got one fucking job. You play video games all week. You play mini golf in the facility, like golf simulator.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You got one kick. They centered it up for you, brother. It could be worse. You could be Justin Tucker. You could be Justin Tucker. Did you see the video of Harbaugh walking loop to the locker room, man? That was pretty tough watch. That's some human shit right there, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:00 There's a human element of this game. sometimes. You care about kickers now? He wants to punch him. If Nate was on his team, he would assault him. No, I wouldn't. I'm just I'm just saying, dude, it's tough to experience someone's worst moment as a professional
Starting point is 00:16:16 athlete and such a big stage, man. I feel for the guy. It's shitty. Honestly, he's the one that saved Chadovia Woosier. Because Ouzier was going to be the you know, the Hollow Man coming out of this game. And, you know, Nobody's going to remember that he fell down, didn't have the right cleats on or something at the end of that football game.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Okay, so that's my worst flight. Worst flight. Can I give my worst flight? Speaking of people that should have walked. Kyle of a loop. Okay. Worst flight. Nicholas Maduro.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And his wife. Worst flight. I don't know who that is. unbelievable would you imagine could you imagine um but what's your worst flight
Starting point is 00:17:18 it's kind of getting to the point where I feel like if I tweet something bad about the president I could be on a plane just like Maduro oh I hate to fuck around and find out that it's a good worst play that's a good
Starting point is 00:17:37 How many of shit you've ever said in my life, my brain's operating at like 5% capacity right now. It took me literally 45 seconds to get that. Anyway, I got my worst flight. It's not as bad as that, but it's me. Worst flight is me is 630 a.m. flight out of fucking Philly this morning. And oh my God, dude, I literally wanted to jump. I wanted to open the exit hatch and just jump out of the plane. It was tough.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I was still all vast up and very hungry. over and yeah it was tough yeah but you didn't lose your grip on a country that's about to get plundered for its minerals metaphorically yeah dusty stabilizing current events from facts trolling in the live stream is peak yeah I'm sorry I don't I don't usually like to do no but that was you know we're here dude we're here dude That was fucking great. I'm not even going to lie. I was thinking about this for a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:18:41 No, we're here. And I was just like, for some reason, I'm like, Chris is going to off the top rope this so quick. That's why I was like, I don't want someone to take this. Honestly, not even close. When I said Tyler Loop and you didn't have Tyler Loop, I was like, well, what's he, what's he garden against?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Nobody can have a worse flight than Tyler Loop. Oh, man, Nicholas definitely had a worse flight. Than Tyler Lou? I don't know, though. Nicholas Maduro didn't have Marlon Humphrey with a fucking live stream thing on him. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I hope he put that phone away last night. Would have been a bad night to live stream on the flight home. Bro. I can't imagine the Baltimore is their locker room because all the clips are going around, the clip of Isaiah likely like a week or two ago. That's what I'm saying. When he's leaving the facility and someone's like, hey, look at who. And he's like, this shit is trash.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So wait, have we done all the way? worst flights and best flight? Yeah, yeah. So we can get in this game. So we can go right in this game. All right, guys. The first thing I want to say is this. The Steelers, I know both coaches are coaching for their jobs, it seems like, and we haven't heard a peep out of Baltimore yet, which I don't know what's going to happen there, but, and Mike Tomlin might not be the guy going forward in Pittsburgh, but last night he was the guy. They had that that team playing with another level of intensity and emotion and honestly i wouldn't say that the ravens bitched up but i would say that they weren't as physical and i would say that it didn't look like it meant as much to
Starting point is 00:20:18 them and i know there's a home field advantage in that thing and they sprinkled holy water all over the field and there's interceptions going off of people's ankles and shit and you know bad breaks for the ravens but the the the the Steelers just they took the fight to them you know you're up 10-0 you don't put them away. Kyle Hamilton's injury is enormous. We'll get to that in a second. But outside of all that, the defense missed like 13 or 15 tackles. And, you know, the game plan is when I talk about the Steelers,
Starting point is 00:20:49 one of the reasons that I, you know, while I think Aaron Rogers was fucking fantastic last night, especially considering there was a sequence where he missed Jono Smith, and then he got hawked running to the sticks by a detail. He had the angle on him. It was like, fuck, I don't have the angle. At that moment, I was like jotting down as eulogy, dude. I thought it was over. I thought it was over.
Starting point is 00:21:11 The way he played down the stretch, especially when Kyle left the game and it was like, I can pick on Ardarius Washington. I can pick on Marlon Humphrey. We just got to get the ball on the flat and make 44 tackle. We just got to get the ball in the flat and make Nate Wiggins come down and run support. Like, they just aren't the physical tackling team. They aren't your uncle's ravens, dude. They're not your father's ravens, dude.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They're just not. And Zach Gore, without Kyle Hamilton, he was butt naked out there. I mean, just the minute that happened, I think the yards per play went up a couple yards. The success rate went way up. And, you know, you can't do half the things you can do from personnel grouping standpoint. Everybody knows that Kyle Hamilton's been the key to this defense the past two years. He's been the Band-Aid that stopped the bleeding. And when he left the game, it was kind of over at that point.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I mean, whether you knew it or not at the time. I mean, when that thing turned, it was all. And so I thought the Steelers did a great job of being physical, flying around, playing with emotion, making them tackle, exploiting matchups. You know, and on the other side, I think we're going to look at this game either way as a kind of a where are we on Lamar thing, which I think fair or unfair. That's what was going to happen coming out of this game. This is not a Lamar loss. Do I think you could have played better in the middle of the game? Absolutely in the middle of the football game between 10-0 and 13-10 or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:22:39 There was a period where, with four minutes left, there was a Tyler Lindelbaum holding call, which flipped the field 30 yards. They're at the 21-yard line with the first and 10 after Lamar Scramble, up, I think, 10-0 in the football game with a chance to go up 13-0, 17-0. Instead, Linderbombe with a totally useless hold, backs them up. They end up in like 3rd and 17. They punt the football. They don't get the ball back for another 11 minutes of,
Starting point is 00:23:04 of game time. And, you know, I don't think the offense recovered from that until they absolutely had to. It almost felt like to me the offense was in such a lull in the middle of football game. And I said this last night, watching with the guys, they finally ran Lamar on a keep that he had to like punch it into the teeth of defense. And they were talking shit and people were like jostling, as somebody might say. And Lamar got a little pissed off. And I said, man, he got hit now. He's fucking mad. Watch, he's about to have that Lamar moment because five minutes prior I said, we haven't had a Lamar moment yet in this game, but we had three different Lamar moments. I love the call and the faith toss. You know, obviously he let Zayflowers get behind the defense,
Starting point is 00:23:49 but also the Isaiah likely throw was, it was unbelievable. These were quintessential Lamar moments. Okay, so if you were wondering if he still had a pulse, he absolutely still does. And I don't put this game on him. I don't. You know, like I've been, when Lamar doesn't play well, I tell you, when he plays fine, I tell you, and when he rises to the occasion, I tell you as well, this is an organizational failure. This game was an
Starting point is 00:24:14 organizational failure. When the guy puts you in position to win three different times, the defense can't make plays. It's very unfortunate that your best player is that important to your defense, and he's out of the football game with something kind of fluky, where Alohi Gilman knocks him out. That's what it was, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And they could not bias stop because Aaron Rogers was the best offensive coordinator in the league down the stretch. He knew right where to go with the football. And when you kind of see the way he'll line Kenny Gang well up and say, hey, you do this and that. And you see him and Arthur Smith arguing on the sideline and shit. That's Aaron Rogers' offense. You know, it's Aaron Rogers' offense when they go to MVS three times in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It's Aaron Rogers' offense when he throws a million back-shoulder fades. Like, he's going to Thielen with the game in the line. Like, this was some pretty good quarterbacking from Aaron Rogers, dude. but the Ravens gave it away as well. And I think, you know, the title of loop kick is one thing, but there was a number of things that they tricked off to be in that position at all. And Lamar was not the reason you lost that game.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Did I think he could have played more inspired in the middle portion of the game? Yeah, but they barely had the ball. They barely got anything going. So, and when you lose two guards like that, I mean, they're not that good. And that's what's coming in the offseason for the Ravens. Like, that fucking roster's not that good.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And I'm not making excuses. I'm just telling you. We were wrong about that roster. They were a player leaving the field defensively away from being a bottom five defense. Yeah. Yeah, there's numbers you alluded to when Haletson left the game. Yards per play jumped from 4.4 yards to 6.4 success rate went from 33% to 47%. Those are two completely different offenses with Hamilton off the field.
Starting point is 00:25:55 They have to end. Listen, we're going to talk about Texan Steelers in a second. Steelers, I know I make a lot of jokes about walking across America and all that shit, but this was gutsy, man. Like, it really was. This is a classic, like, back against the wall, Tomlin game. And you should have seen it coming a mile away. Lamar has not performed well in that stadium of late, and the team hasn't performed well.
Starting point is 00:26:16 But, like, Tomlin, firing his players up on the sideline, juxtaposed to the vibe all year from this Ravens team. You know, you brought this up a second ago. Isaiah likely leaving the stadium a couple weeks ago saying to a fan, ass like that's a cardinal sin don't let people know you know how bad the culture has to be for him to be walking out of the building and saying that to like people that aren't in the building and like the lamar shit obviously was a report by a guy who's written salacious stuff in the past yeah but where there's smoke there's fire as far as like a disconnect between a coach and a quarterback it's deeper
Starting point is 00:26:51 stuff there's there's things always going on in a building and and here i am taking lamar's side but i am saying in the future they need a culture reset i love harball but they need a culture reset. And it pains me to say that because I think he's a great person, great coach, very accomplished. But like it's kind of, they're going backwards. It's run its course. Like, fucking hire Brian Flores.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Fucking hire Brian Flores. Tell him to bring Josh McCown. If he's the next hot O.C. I'm just saying, I'm throwing one guy out there. I'm just saying there, as you go through some of the candidates, if you're a Ravens fan in this coaching cycle, Does it get you a little excited? Think about the prospect of it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Now, think about the prospect of trying the same thing again. Because even when you were better than this team was, you were tricking it off in the playoffs. I think they need a culture reset in that building. I do. And I think they need to nail the draft next year. I think they need to get pass rushers. They need draft guards. They got a ton of late round picks.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Go ahead. But I think a Brian Flores, when your defense fails to, because of personnel, rush the passer, what do you have to do? You have to draft pass rushers for sure, but you also need to make pass rush happen out of nowhere, which nobody's better at doing that to Brian Flores. You just need some guys that understand blitzing in his defense. Can you imagine Brian Flores using Kyle Hamilton to his advantage as a chess piece? I know I'm like, this is low-hanging fruit, but I'm just, we don't have to hire the guy today, but I'm saying like, there are opportunities out there that make me excited for this team in the future. And I would not move Lamar.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I think he was hurt this year. Do I think they're going to think about it? Like, I'm sure they'll get calls because they put the bat signal out, right? But I wouldn't do it. It just seems like I'd rather just reset the culture and try to get it right. They only have $8.4 million in estimated 2026 cap space, and they also have to make the decision on resigning Tyler Lindervaum. They declined his fifth year, so they could, what's called?
Starting point is 00:29:00 him. I think they'll end up extending him. Because with him being a pro bowler, the franchise tag would be pretty steep for him. I think they will end up keeping him in house. But to your point, Reed, with the financial situation being one of this, top flight edge rushers, they don't make it to the open market. It's not like you can go to the, go to the store and find one of the area. And maybe Harbaugh is sitting in there and saying, like, look at this fucking roster,
Starting point is 00:29:24 man. I got no pass rushers. I have an aging secondary, right? Where, you know, Marlon Humphrey came to the season. He's kind of fell off a cliff. Roquan Smith took a step back. You don't have some of the guys that you were counting on. And then on offense, like, really, do your, look in the mirror and say, how good is that receiving core?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, stack it up in the league, like, where you think it is. And I know that, like, we've been banging this drum for a long time in Baltimore, but, like, Zayflowers is not, like, one of those dudes. Like, he's a dude for sure, but he's not one of those dudes. Like, I'm sorry. No, he's a dude, but he's not one of those dudes. They don't have one of those dudes. And when people keep saying, well, yeah, they got Zay flowers. They got Isaiah likely.
Starting point is 00:30:13 They're going to let Isaiah likely walk. Yeah, he's going to be gone, man. They can't have likely been to walk. So, man, the Ravens, somebody in the chat just said it. And sometimes it's easy. It's so hard to just admit this, but the Ravens miss their window. But the window's always open if you have an MVP. P-caliber quarterback and you're banking on him still being that guy and maybe you can bring in a
Starting point is 00:30:34 guy that rejuvenates him and maybe he does need to fucking tighten up a little bit like with his habits and that sort of thing and the way he leads that could all be true but I still want him in the building I still think like the questions of him not having heart or not wanting to play or not being tough like he's never been that guy to me it's just like I think this building needs a culture reset so we can put them to bed I want to go back to something you said yeah you said you don't think Tomlin will possibly be at the stairs along like why do you you think well let's say let's say Houston blows them out of the water mm-hmm you know you're going to get the annual like what are we doing here it's just it's now they went 10 and and seven this year that's what I'm saying right
Starting point is 00:31:18 they didn't go nine and eight they didn't still hold the odd yeah this another winning record so like and I'm in the playoffs but but but like a miss field goal away right right you know know it's just one kick and like one kick like what are we saying he said if my aunt yeah mail parts she would be my home is an alley you that was an alley you for a tomlinism oh my god and i love the way that he like he like uh he he made that work in a public setting he dropped that bomb and then just was like all right any other questions you just edit his presser it's so perfect it's so perfect i don't think the like how long he was on that one too you know what do you like what do you think they do with them do you think
Starting point is 00:32:04 this is just theoretic you think tomlin wants a stake in ownership did you hear that oh did he said if i come back away i'm not like i'm reading a report here yeah so you guys stop me up from wrong you know that's you guys stop me up there were those rumors swirling they were talking about oh he pulled a cobalb they're talking about a fox tv job a fox tv member caleb william did he do that You're all. Remember Caleb Williams doing that? This is from Tony Pauline, a report from Tony Pauline saying that Mike Tomlin was hoping for if he chooses retirement or get ownership to stay with the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah. So that kind of feels to me, and I said this yesterday, I'm like, that feels like, hey, what's the worst I can say is no thing? And like, I don't necessarily want to be coaching like right next year. or maybe I want to do something else. Nolan brought up TV. What if, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:00 like, that's in the reports too. It's in the report. Yeah. But when I hear, when I hear, like making some leverage play like that, and you don't really have the leverage to do that
Starting point is 00:33:09 because they're talking about firing you anyways, like the last couple years, like fans at least. Not that that fucking makes a difference. Like, you don't have the leverage to be like, you know, I liken it to somebody being like,
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'll give you $100 and be like, I was just about to ask. Can they trade it? A million dollars, deal. You think, can you, trade a head coach for players? You could trade a head coach. Maybe Tomlin gets traded. It's happened before. That's a good take.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Joe Burrow for Tomlin. Woo! I don't know that. I don't know that works. Then Tomlin gets ownership in the bagels. Well, you couldn't trade him in division. Just like 30 bucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 What if you just trade a coach? What if Harbo and Tomlin just switch? Harbo goes to Steelers. That's like wife. That's like the wife swap. Yeah, that's like the reality TV show. Do you think they both would do well? No. I think Tomlin Lamar might work.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You know, it's funny because Tomlin, one thing Tomlin's done, I'm not saying Rogers is really hard to deal with, but he has made that work this year. Yeah. And I also say this. He's made a lot of stuff work. I've said, yeah, he sure has. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I've given Aaron Rogers his flowers here, I've said this all year he looks a lot better than last year and I felt bad for him with the setup in Pittsburgh a little bit considering like and over the last two weeks it looked a lot worse than what it was
Starting point is 00:34:34 obviously to get DK back, it's better and I think sometimes people don't look at this team you know you're like whoa it's what they have outside like they have two dynamic running backs and you know before Washington got hurt that's a difference maker
Starting point is 00:34:49 at tight end that's very unique when I look at this game this weekend. Again, the thing that the Ravens did so poorly was tackle. What's something that Houston does really well? Tackle. Top fucking down, dude. And I know they got beat over the top yesterday and Laster's backup was in there. And I think they sold out to stop the run. They were like, we're not going to let fucking Jonathan Taylor run for 200 yards on us. So Leonard made some good plays. And they got it over his head. But I think in this game, this is the type of game where Houston's going to feel real good on that on that side of the football like they're going to feel real you could
Starting point is 00:35:26 attack maybe a linebacker like tooto in coverage something like that but i don't see a lot of ways you know how they looked in the cleveland game right you know even with a man up they might look like that in the past game because the edges you know mike green and those guys um for for the ravens not dynamic pass rushers right and so kind of let those two tackles off the hook that's not going to happen this weekend. The path for the Steelers is honestly defense just playing out of their minds. But the problem is the Steelers have given up some verticals and they've gotten, they've let people get behind
Starting point is 00:36:01 them a couple times. I mean last night for sure. And the one thing the Texas have done really well lately is they have stretched the field vertically. And you think about some of the shots that are going to be there on tape. So I think it's a really interesting matchup. It's only a three point line right now. I think it might have, it might have moved to three and a half. the um yeah three and a half Steelers plus three and a half um that's a Monday night the
Starting point is 00:36:27 Steelers have done a really good job especially lately you talk about their defense of stopping the run um giving up an average of 73.3.3 rushing yards over the past four weeks after seeing those are with seeing Devon A Chan jimier Gibbs and Derek Henry their interior played really well yeah those guys played really well um like great reps yeah and cam cam cam haward is just out there when he gets down in that stance it's like an American bison is you know when he's got like frozen goatee yeah yeah and he's you can see his mouth yeah yeah yeah the steam coming off him what's his helmet do you think he wear i mean i don't know it's a single family home you know guys three bad that guy is i mean he's just and he plays with so much intensity such such
Starting point is 00:37:15 a heartbeat kind of guy for that defense it's amazing how he played and supposedly his dad his dad you said ironhead yeah eight and three quarters hat so i mean that's bigger than my dad's head dude my dad has like a eight and a half head dude you know like poor guy like any free hat he gets he's like here you want it i'm the same way you got you got a melon and since i grew my dreads i haven't wore hats since i grew my dread that's crazy i really haven't seen you wear a hat i can't so so listen you're playing at home Sprinkle some more holy water on the field. That probably worked.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I mean, it definitely worked. It felt like that kind of game. Oh, man. And the Texans, I think, are the better team. I think they're one. But the Texans, we know, are also variable because, like, that goes to that offense from earlier in the season is there. They're on the road. You know, they, hey, that Kansas City went on the road.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Ended up being a real lit, litmus test for them. I know that Kansas City didn't make the playoffs, but that defense is still a proud group. It's a tough place to play. I thought CJ played well in that game. It's a good test for them. It's going to be hostile like that this weekend in Pittsburgh. It's going to be a hell of a football game. I hope not, but it could be.
Starting point is 00:38:32 We got some advanced video. This is the crew after the game. This is all the Holy Water at the Steelers field that they're dumping on ahead of this matchup with the Texans. Yeah, look at that. They're going to need against this Texans defense, but they're just dumping it all over. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You know, keeping it around. That's pretty good. Golly. That's a lot of holy water, huh? Got to flood the kill zone. You got to flood the kill zone. That's the one way. Yeah. Yeah. What if the Texan the rest of it is? Yeah, take a boat.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Yeah, you do. Huh? What'd you say? No, no, I was about to say something. So that, that's impressive. Man, that's impressive. I never cut myself off. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. All right. So, so there you go. You got Steelers, Ravens, which, you
Starting point is 00:39:21 you know, again, I don't want to put that thing on Lamar. I just want you to know that. Like, where do I stand on this thing? I think the Ravens, I would change everything before I'd change Lamar. I would. Lamar wants to go back to Florida. I know he might. And I kind of, and I'm not going to lie as a fan.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I might not blame him either. I would love to see Mike McDaniel's last chance with Lamar. But is it a good fit? Who knows? You know, like, it's fun to think about. but like the one thing that you have to do in that offense is get the ball out with timing and I think I think Lamar and two is one-eighth the quarterback that Lamar is but but he's a he's a quarterback that's up for a challenge but I think also Mike McDaniels he's a guy that
Starting point is 00:40:09 I mean he probably would have to tweak that a little bit like you have to meet in the middle to make it work and I feel like he could with so I might have a guy for Mike McDaniel's name's Tanner McKee oh that motherfucker threw the the ball 40-something times yesterday we'll talk about that in a little bit so anyways um you know i i think uh i think there's some good points in the chat that you know you might change it and be more of it they are a run first offense as it is maybe mcdaniel could tweak the thing around lamar nobody's going to kick lamar off the porch right if he's like i want to come play for you right like like like but i don't know that's the perfect fit that people think it is like schematically no and i'm
Starting point is 00:40:53 not even thinking about it like that. I'm just thinking about it for. Geographically. Exactly. Geographically. He's back home. He's in that area of Miami. But is that annoying?
Starting point is 00:41:01 I'm home right now. Huh? I'm home right now. And I don't like leaving the house. Well, for, I think guys, I think when you're from Florida, I think Florida guys have a different pride. Yeah. Like, I feel like when you ask football guys.
Starting point is 00:41:14 They love Florida. You're from. Yeah. They love Florida. But do you want your phone ringing off the hook, all your buddies, calling you all the time? Like, people asking. for shit. Some guys like that.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And the thing about it is just like a lot of the floor guys too, they don't like the fact that, you know, they have to spend half their year somewhere cold. I keep telling my son and he's got his dolphins, PJs and shit and I won't let him go to a game and all that. You guys know that. Like, I'll get you season tickets
Starting point is 00:41:42 of Flemars down there. They'll be one of my favorite teams. We'll go down there all the time. Hang out with Mike McDaniel. It'll be awesome. We'll fucking try to ingratiate ourselves. And they can't be mad at me. He's going to be like, because it's my son. Oh, no, I'm going to be like, was I wrong?
Starting point is 00:41:59 The Dolvins would have to do some interesting salary cap maneuvers because right now they're estimated at minus 27 and a half million. His cap had $74 million. I think he stays. I think he stays. He's going to get a new deal this off season. Yeah, they're going to get rid of Monkin, I feel like that's kind of what I... Man, if they ask Monkin and just keep Harbaugh, dude, like I...
Starting point is 00:42:21 Bro, I don't know. On Reddit, supposedly like zayflower's girlfriend or like there's like a whole bad thing they're like they're like leaking stuff about how players like they're in the locker room they're looking at text messages that they really don't like the coach and they don't like what's going on and that's what's go just yeah but isn't it funny how zay flower's girlfriend's right but dylan gabriel's girlfriend's wrong like everybody just it's so funny the way everybody just like plays into whatever half truth They would, you know, all right, man, Dylan Gabriel's girlfriend needs to shut the fuck up and die.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And then they're like, did you hear what Zayflower's girlfriend said? It's all bad. She basically put her hand on a Bible. Like, she's a great woman. I know she's never lied. Like, it's crazy, dude. The wagons and the girlfriend's just got to chill on the social media. They do.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Just chill with the, they do. They do. They just need to chill generally. How about the next AFC matchup next week? Man. And the Jags. One p.m. on Sunday. This is fate, Nate.
Starting point is 00:43:31 We got to live stream it. I'm going to tell you coming in this thing. I'm going to be as honest. This is me 100% honest. Do I feel good about this matchup? Absolutely not. Belt to ass. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Belt to ass pending. Really? Nate, give me a score prediction. Listen. Listen. Score prediction. Don't give me an unless.
Starting point is 00:43:51 What do you think is going to happen? Hmm. Hmm. Let me think. All right. Josh Allen, if he comes to play, Josh Allen and Cook, if they come to play,
Starting point is 00:44:03 this will be a 42-37-ish Jacksonville win. Okay. Okay. If Josh Allen, if we keep playing our defense like we have been and we don't allow a 75-yard rusher, meaning Cook,
Starting point is 00:44:22 or Allen doesn't have over 75 yards on the ground, I think we are, I think it's going to be belt to absolute ass. So we will. Give me like a belt to ass score. Minus 13 and a half by two touchdown. Alt line. You're hitting the all line.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Altline. Altline. Minus 13 and a half. Two touchdowns in Jacksonville. Home dog. This is me being as honest as possible. Do I think you guys are a fucking wagon right now, like a very good football team?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yeah, absolutely. Sean McDermott and Josh I don't know that Sean and Josh share this whole thing but 0 and 5 on the road in the playoffs I think the Jags are the better football team do I think the bills can win absolutely
Starting point is 00:45:09 they absolutely can the reasons I think they can win are cover six they play pretty well against cover six that's what Jacksonville does mostly they've been pretty productive against cover six play action pass Kincaids back in the
Starting point is 00:45:24 the lineup they look totally different when kinkade back in the lineup i think jacksonville if you if you know jacksville they do give some yards up to tight ends right um and the inside zone you guys do a great job at outside zone duo inside zone i think they're going to be able to run the football now the question is is josh going to play lights out because that's what it's going to take and can he play lights out without trying to do too much because if he if he tries to do too much this team's good enough to put a lot of stress on you. The area of the game that I think, I think a lot of people are missing is,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you know, I think the run game is salivating for Jacksonville. You look at this front and you're like, yeah, we can run the football on them, and I agree. But I think they can create some havoc in the secondary. And I think it's a big Cole Bishop game. I think the guys in the middle of the field
Starting point is 00:46:13 have to play great. Is that going to happen? Are you going to get the Cole Bishop you got in the Kansas City game? I don't know. The Maxwell Harrison injury, worries me at the end of the game yesterday he was probably in there a touch too long but again he's in there because probably the the darius slay deal has been a snowball effect that's fucked their roster up
Starting point is 00:46:33 that honestly like he shouldn't even be in the fucking last game of the season so do i think the jags are better am i going to come out and talk shit and act like the bills are going to win this game no but i think it's going to be a good football game i think it's going to be a good football game um do i want the Jags to lose? Absolutely. Like, would it, would it make me feel good? And it's not even about you. It's not about you. It's not about you. Amen, Chris. I just find, and I put on a dog mask during a playoff run.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I find the, I find the level of us against the world to be a little off putting. Like, I find the, I find the stay on that side kind of thing to be a little bit like, all right, we get it, guys. At this point, like, people respect you. I think you might be the most complete team in the AFC. Lucky for you, you had a guy, one of your co-hosts, has been on them the whole year. So it's like you can jump on the bandwagon any time and have an excuse, you know? No, I don't want to jump on bandwagons.
Starting point is 00:47:33 He wasn't really talking to you, but if you're saying this. Chris, jump on my bandwagon. I've been on the Jags all year. All right, here it is. Here it is. Hey, Jags, I respect the fuck out of you guys. You guys are really good football team. I think this Liam Cohen guy is a secret weapon.
Starting point is 00:47:45 They should have never let him down there. in Jacksonville because now they're gonna have a fucking program. But has, like, I, I was listening to a Jags podcast this week. Just to see, like, how, no, yeah, right, exactly. And the guy did 15 minutes of nobody likes us. And then, like, minute 16, he was like, but none of that really matters. And I was like, what? Is all Jags content like this at this point?
Starting point is 00:48:13 I mean, we all love Amman Se Brown, right? And he's the one. No, we don't. He's the one that just, oh, I know every receiver that was picked before me. No, I always think that shit's kind of lame, dude. I always think that shit's kind of lame. I'm like, all right, cool. Like, you know, they fucked up.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Like, they fuck up every year, dude, all the time. But you know how it is. You know, like, you know how it is for a new coach or a coach. You got to find something to relate with your team. But the small market thing, dude, like everybody. Love it. You got to love it, man. You got to love it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 So, yes. Where am I? Do I want the bills to win more than, more than more than the desert needs the rain. I want the bills to win. But do I think they're going to win? I don't know if they're going to win, dude. I think the Jags are pretty fucking good, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I think, you know, them playing on the road, I don't know if I trust this football team. History is not on Buffalo side. As you mentioned, Sean McDermott is 0 and 5 in a road playoff game situation. McDermott's first playoff game was on the road in Jacksonville in the 2017. Yeah, but that was the Kyle Williams playoff run. That was Tyrod Taylor and Blake Bordles, man. They could just throw that game out the window.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah, yeah. It was 9 to 6. 10 to 3. Yeah, it was terrible. But yeah, rough one. And the other road losses are like what? Kansas City. It was 1996.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Oh, the other, that was the previous. Who are the other McDermott? Other McDermott. We have 2019, lost of the Texans, 22 to 19. Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that one. And then lost to the Chiefs in the 2020 season. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Then we lost. Don't we? Sorry. Then they lost again to the Chiefs. Chiefs. And then another Chiefs. Damn. So it's the Chiefs, it's the Jags, and it's rookie year Josh Allen against the Texans, which is a fucking wild game.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I remember that one. It feels like a million years. ago. So yeah, I think the Jags also have a hidden advantage in this game, which is that the fucking bills don't have a kicker to speak of. And they got one of the best kickers in the league. Like, you talk about in a field goal game. Points. Field goal game. Like, that's a little bit nerve-wracking.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Do I think this is a lopsided matchup on paper? No. But I worry about this one for the bill. But it's not lopsided on paper, but the Jags, if camp comes out, and he coaches a game that I think he's going to coach, you're just one turnover away from a game being super lopsided. I know, but they probably feel the same way. If they can get a turnover, here's the thing. They're going to be hunting these turnovers too now. They're going to be like, hey, Trevor, take that mask off.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I'm not saying that's what I'm saying. But this is what their secondary is saying is like, oh, you guys have been good down the stretch this year. Let's see what you're like in the playoffs. That's the one thing they have an advantage in is like they have been in these games a lot. And so, you know, like McDermott's had some shit for guys in the second half of games this year where, you know, like they're going to be a turnover hungry bunch too. So I do think the game comes down to turnovers and that's another thing where it's like, hey, Camp's been doing a great job of getting those guys playing the ball. But the hitting yards, Parker, Washington on special teams.
Starting point is 00:51:38 MVP. MVP. He might be the MVP. Well, no, Jacoby Myers is probably the MVP of the team. I think it's part of. Non-quarterback, non-quarterback. I still think it's Parker. Jacoby's up there, but I think it's still, like, what's part, like, his progression over the years and his stats, he's been, he's been like Trevor's.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Where's he from anyways, Parker Washington? Penn State. Penn State. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What you call it? He's just, he's been a huge difference maker this all year. Born in Sugarland, Texas.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Oh, Sugar Land. And he just finds a way to get open all the time. No, wait. actually Starkville, Mississippi. Okay. Well, listen, here's the deal, man. I mean, honestly, the middle of field is going to be huge in this football game
Starting point is 00:52:24 for both these teams. Again, you know, with the inside zone, and I think Jacksonville's susceptibility to it, when I looked at this matchup like six weeks ago, I think what I said is the Jags are going to score, or the bills are going to be able to score, but can they keep up with the Jags? Right.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And I think for them, it's a little bit of a possession football game. Like, can we run the football? I think you'll know early, when they get the inside zone going, then it's trying to manipulate these linebackers to be pulled up and hit the play action behind them. You know, like the beginning of that Eagles game, like, you know, Josh just kind of turns us back to defense
Starting point is 00:52:57 and pops up, you know, throws a dart to Knox. Yeah. Backed up. Like that kind of play action game where it's like, you know, we're going to be pounding the middle of this defense and guys are going to be having to trigger downhill because the one place that I think the Jags are not very good is inside. Interior defensive line.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And I think, am I being unfair to Monterec Brown? And I'm saying, no, I'm saying Monterec Brown in the corner. Oh. To say he's, to say he's a little bit of a guy that you might get after. He's been playing well lately. He has. So I don't know, man. The Jags will need to get home on the defensive line, like you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:53:39 They're third in the league with 222 QB pressures, but only 27th in sacks with 32. Oh, yeah, like we talked about a few weeks ago. This is going to be the game where Hines Allen has a chance to get the respect and get his name back. Imagine you go up there and you have four sacks. Like, you call me Josh Allen. You call me Josh Allen, guys. And know that you're talking about me. In the event that the Jags lose, the super cut is going to be unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:54:14 No, it's not. It's going to be great. What up, Jax. And, of course, you know, The Simpsons. They predicted this? They already predicted this. Did they really? They already predicted it years ago.
Starting point is 00:54:27 When? It's in the books. When? It's in the book. They predicted the 2017 one. They didn't predict this one. See, it's unwritten. It's unwritten yet.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Predicted it. We do have to give one shout out. Blake Bortles, the first thing he did this morning was wake up and he took a piss. and then he probably the second thing was that he texted Trevor Lawrence. Congratulations on beating his touchdown record, single season touchdown records. Shout up Blake Bortles. I will say this. I think the winner of this game can feel like they're going to the bowl.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I really do. This is the one team for the Bills. I'm looking at from the Bills perspective. So after we win this game, are we Jacks fans in here now then? I'm only fans of a couple teams in the NFL, so I can't just turn on fandom. You know, I'm going to root for you depending on the Jax all year, man. Say again. I've been a fan of the Jags all year.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I love the Jags. No, if they win this game, who would they play the next round? It doesn't matter. No, in the AFC, my fandom goes like this. Bills, Texans, Chargers, Jags and Pats,
Starting point is 00:55:35 like, you know. So there's no chance you ever. No, I would root for the Jags for sure. You'd just say. had four other teams that are no like there's a chance like like honestly if if if if hitler came back from the dead and fielded a football team i'm just joking i'm just joking no listen i you you got to understand bro like it is a natural reaction it's kind of like the shador thing with the shodore stands like make you like almost like be like no i don't want to see i don't want to see this right now like
Starting point is 00:56:08 don't you ritch you'll be so loud man richard sherman me i'm not bro i haven't even been close to richard Sherman and you. Richard Sherman's telling you you're trash and your team sucks. I've not done that for half of a year. When you guys play well, I say, man, you're playing good. Oh, man. It's just hard. It's, you know, it's like it's kind of like it's a shout out Trevor, man. Shut out Trevor. He's been great, dude. He's been great. God, if we just, if you play Pittsburgh at some point, bro, if you play Pittsburgh at some point, I will be in the pool, dude. I'll be down there in the fucking pool, dude. Will you walk to the game? I mean, look, exactly. That's like, that's like, Like, that's getting close to you.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You have in the room for them. I want. If that got through that point, you would have to. You would really be nervous if the Steelers won that game. Denver versus Jacksonville, I'm kind of down the middle on that thing. Honestly, I am. I'm sorry. Revenge.
Starting point is 00:57:03 No, I'm down the middle. I really don't care. You know, there's a team that I don't hate or love more, you know. I mean, and then we would have to go back to Denver. I mean, we've been there. But you haven't done that. it twice walking your trap take over your trap can you take over their trap twice oh got to know they updated the camera system dude one one game at a time we we we worried about bison burgers this
Starting point is 00:57:27 weekend that's what we were bison burgers that's pretty good that's pretty good we'll have by hey why don't we get bison burgers on the live stream let's do it you want some jaguar no i don't think that might be illegal um um um um The third game in the AFC wildcard, we've got the Chargers and the Patriots. Patriots are three and a half point favorites. That's a Sunday night game. You better believe I'm going to have a million teasers tied to the bills, though. This is a teaser game.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Right now the line, actually this morning, the line moved a little bit. It was a pickum last night. It ticked to Buffalo side. Want me to help you just win some money? Dog, I've been winning money for three years. I don't need your help at all. I'm one of the best pickers in the media When it comes to against the spread
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Starting point is 00:58:33 But betting with your heart well Because your team It happens to be good one year Is not like all the sudden like you're a sharp Isn't it? I never claim to be a sharp nor did I but you're talking to me like I'm not making any money player I just want to help you I flew private to L.A. on this on my last year's winnings do the math and now you're
Starting point is 00:58:58 going to tell me that's too braggadocious or something it'd be humble you know what I'm saying I can't win in this motherfucker all right let's get to the next thing next thing they'll come at my side gig bro my family depends on me Chargers Patriots, Patriots three and a half point favorite Sunday night. Chargers Patriots, this is going to be a good football game, dude. You think about what the Chargers do, they make you earn it. I think, like, Drake May, he's got all the highlight real throws down the field, but he also has a lot of really smart football plays.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You talk about like checkdowns and that sort of thing. Milton Williams' return makes a big difference. Okay, so we've seen the way their pass rushes look without him. with him on the field. What was the quick pressure number that you pulled up, Noel? 27% third in the league with Milton Williams in the lineup.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So they can get fucking pressure on you quick. 5 and 0 in primetime this year, the Chargers, I think. I think they're undefeated in prime time. Wow. And that's a prime time game. They're all primetime games when you're playing in the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:00:02 but I think this is going to be a hell of a football game. And I think for the Patriots, with all distractions they've had, to come out yesterday and look like an adult football team, very well coached. These are two alpha males right here on each sideline.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I can't wait for Harbaugh and Vrable. Both these teams pride themselves in being physical and being nasty. You know, so I don't really know how to how to handicap this game. I think the pats are favored by, I want to say three? Three and a half. Three and a half. This is the most interesting game, I think, in the eight. a FC, you know, the wildcard slot for the AFC.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Because it's like exactly what you said, Chris. In my mind, you got two coaches that are kind of hardasses that have been there before, you know, coached successfully in different teams, but also played in the NFL and know what it creates, what it takes to create a winning culture. And at the same time, you have two young quarterbacks. It feels like a changing of the guard a little bit for the, you know, premier quarterbacks in the AFC. It's like, hey, this is, you know, no more fucking Patty Mahomes in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We got Drake May. We got Justin Herbert. I feel like this is going to be an AFC matchup in the playoffs. It's going to kind of maybe be one of those chief spills type vibe. You know, I think it's going to be, and they want to do the same kind of thing, exactly like what you're just saying. One thing that I'm a little bit hesitant of is the Patriots, like not having been super tested during the regular season, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:32 and then all of a sudden it's playoff time. But like you said, they played well yesterday. And then this fucking charges are still so banged up, man. Like, think about their O line against the, Texans or whatever it was a couple weeks ago. Like I'm just worried about their health as a team. Honestly. No question.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I thought yesterday it was interesting saying, hey, we're not going to play our guys because we don't want to play the Jags. I think, you know, like we'd rather play the team that didn't dust us off midseason. Like, we'd rather take the seven seed and,
Starting point is 01:02:00 or, you know, and just go play the Pats. Like, because honestly, um, they do match up better against the Pats and the Jags. And you beat the,
Starting point is 01:02:08 you beat the brakes off them. Now, I don't think it's that ugly when you, you play them again. I mean, like you said, that trip, either way, it's still a long trip. It's a long trip. Okay. So I look at this game and I feel like, do you think the charges are going to abandon the run game? We were talking about this on the way over. I still think they run the ball a little bit. They try to establish it, but it's going to be hard. I think Milton Williams changes things. I think on both sides, like just with both the offenses being so quarterback performance
Starting point is 01:02:39 reliant it's a protect and effect game protect the passer obviously the past get and well campbell back yeah huge for them but protect the passer affect the passer i think that'll i think pressure rate's going to be a big indicator at the end of the game and the one thing that the that the fucking the chargers have that they don't is a derwin james and so it'd be really interesting to see how he's employed it's going to be really interesting and to see you know how aggressive they want to be with him. I think, you know, when you look at the Chargers, they got some fucking stud backers, man. Stud backers, the middle of the field is an area that's going to be hard to own if you're New England. Obviously, you like throwing the ball to your backs out of the backfield. You talk about
Starting point is 01:03:22 like the way the pads have, they have checked it down to guys like Trayvion Henderson and had huge plays off of those things. And so the one thing that, you know, the Chargers is going to do is keep the ball in front of them again. So, you know, it kind of becomes a thing where it's like, hey, you're a rookie, not a rookie quarterback. This is your first year in the playoffs. Okay, you've arrived. You're an MVP possibly of the league. And I think he should be the MVP because if we're playing it like, hey, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:47 at the end of the season, we were going to say, hey, Matt's staff are going to go out and win it. Well, I think he lost it on Monday night against the Falcons. Schedule be damned. I think he's the MVP, Drake May. Okay. Especially if you consider the fact that their win total was like, what? Like five and a half or something like that? Like they had some, or no, it was a little higher.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Eight, nine? I think, I think it was less. Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Oh, okay. Eight and a half. No, you know, they weren't supposed to be here, man.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And, you know, this is what coaching does is what the quarterback does growing up a year. And I think it's what Josh McDaniels does. That's a big, he's been here a million times, dude. That's the secret weapon in this whole thing as Joshman. As bad as people think he was as a head coach, he's a fucking secret weapon as an OC. And, you know, they're going to have a great game plan. Spillane's supposed to be back, right? Spillane?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yes. Spillane is a big... If he's not on the field, they look way different. They look totally different. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:04:51 This is going to be a hell of a game. I do think if the Chargers can find a way to win this game and have to go to Denver, I think they can win that game. And I think Cowboy knows that. I'm not saying that, like, that's not some hot take. So they're a win away from feeling like they're a win away, which is a kind of weird thing to say,
Starting point is 01:05:07 but it's like, you know, there are paths that are untenable for them. The best thing they can hope is that their bad matchups get knocked off and they end up in a game where it's like, man. And for Herbert, you got to put that shit in the past, man. They blew a huge lead down in Jacksonville a few years back. And, you know, they got pummeled by Houston last year. And so, you know, you are a game away from being 0 and 3 in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And everybody's going to say, mean things about you and you know everybody's going to say see i told you he's not that good um but much like some of the other teams that maybe aren't supposed to be here i think considering their roster the way it is they're they're not necessarily supposed to be here so it's impressive they are uh i think they can win this game but man josh mcdaniel against jesse minter who's a hell of a play caller he's auditioning to be a head coach this is this is the matchup to me so He said those Zoom meetings are going to start this week for him. Jesse Minner did for those head coaching jobs.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I do not think Trevor Lawrence deserves MVP over Drake May, tails of weed smoker. I do not. But I'm not talking shit. I just think like he's got a lot more to work with. No, yeah, yeah. He's got a lot more to work with. I don't think that either.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. He's got 38 total touchdowns this year. That's more than Drake. This is like an Eagles graphic. Um, okay. So moving on. Bet MGM, we want to say hi. Oh, yeah, we do.
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Starting point is 01:07:26 Make it legendary. A game that we saw on Saturday, Bucks Panthers, Bucks won that one, but they find themselves sitting at home this playoff season. Yeah, this is, um, this game was awful. It really was. It was very fitting that this game almost decided the NFC South,
Starting point is 01:07:45 but it didn't decide. Pissing rain and a piss-filled the NFC South. Just no one wants to go to the playoffs. The Panthers are now the first team to have a losing record and make the playoffs twice. Wow, I was going to say,
Starting point is 01:07:57 I was going to stop you right there because the Seahawks did it. The year they knocked us out, it was two seven and nine teams. Giants have done it. The Bucks, so one team, because the Bucks have also done it.
Starting point is 01:08:09 One team was going to be the first team to do it twice between the Bucks and the Panthers. The Bucks are a disappointment, man. You know, I still think their roster, at least on paper in the preseason, looked really good. You know, a combination of injuries, and I think the biggest ones being Baker's injuries,
Starting point is 01:08:24 which, you know, you can say, hey, those are excuses or whatever, but it's real. But they didn't deserve it. They didn't deserve it the way they played. You know, they waited too long to play their ass off. They played with a different intensity week 18. You know, when they knew it was,
Starting point is 01:08:38 on the line. They should have played that way against Miami. They should have played that way in any number of games. They didn't play that way. This is another thing where I'm like, hey, I know Todd Bowles might not, it sounds like they might not make a change, but, you know, it can't be every week a different position group that you're like, well, they fucked up, they fucked up, they need to play better, they need to play better. Eventually, you're like, well, who's the one coaching the team, you know, and who's the one coaching the defense? Because the defense kind of fell off a cliff. Now, there were some things personnel was, and I think light's awesome, but, you know, where they, they sat pat at, you know, at the midpoint, didn't make any trades, you know, losing cancy, I think really hurt
Starting point is 01:09:18 them. But basically what happened in this game is, it doesn't matter. Honestly, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because they won the football game and still didn't make the playoffs. The one thing I will say is this, and, you know, had they made the playoffs and say Carolina was going home, I do think, and this isn't anchor. bias bias what do they say um anchoring bias that type of thing like i'd tell you if i was crazy in some bryce young stan i'd say hey you extend him i need a like max deal for this guy he doesn't need a max deal i think he would tell you he needs to prove it another year but i do think he showed you enough in that game and i know some people are going to say well it's fucking they got seven points at the
Starting point is 01:10:02 end of the football game they ain't working with much okay they're not okay I mean, you can tell me Coker's fun. You can tell me Leggett's funny. You can tell me that you know, Tett McMillan's a good player, which he is. I mean, he's
Starting point is 01:10:18 an offensive rookie leader candidate. But they don't have like a full deck. They've got a number one, but not an arsenal. They don't have an arsenal. So it becomes very easy to take away the one guy that can really play outside. And when you've got to throw the ball to guys
Starting point is 01:10:34 like Xavier Leggett in crunch time, in the rain. It's not a pretty sight. And when the run game dries up for that team, it's really ugly. I judge the guy off the throws. And, you know, he threw one bad pick. So did Baker. Baker's going to have a job next year. I thought he outplayed Baker all year. And meanwhile, Baker's the guy now cast the character is rotating. And I have a lot of empathy for Baker from that respect. But like, Bryce Young, when he throws the football, it's where it needs to be a lot of the time. and the quality of some of those throws late in the game. And also his ability to handle pressure,
Starting point is 01:11:12 it made me pretty optimistic about his future watching him this year. And I think picking up his option is a totally logical thing to do. And you can argue with somebody on a message board. But I'm just telling you, the alternative is what? He played you into a situation where in a quarterback draft that's not worth reaching for somebody in the top three, in my opinion, you know, you're actually like, you're going to be picking in the middle of a deal.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And this is another team that is a year ahead. And you're a year ahead. Tell me why the team's a year ahead. I give the defense a lot of props. But I also give the quarterback some props. And they're going to be in the playoffs, and I think the Rams are going to beat them. I do.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I think that first game he came down to turnovers. And you can't bank. on having the Rams turn the ball over that many times. I think it also came down to being really nails third and fourth down conversions. What comes up must come down. Rams are 10 point favorites. I'm not convinced that's not the wrong number. And that's the sobering thing to hear. I think the defense has played above itself. I think the offense has played above itself. I think it's a really well-coached football team. But the one thing I will tell you coming out of that game, that Dave Canales call on the fucking the flea flicker in the in the monsoon that's like a not a fireball
Starting point is 01:12:42 offense but it's bad so that was a slap his wrist that was bad bad ball that was bad bad ball so most critical moment of the most critical moment of the most critical moment of the most critical moment of the most critical game of your season and you go with that that was crazy how many games do the panthers win this year eight eight yeah somebody in the chat asked if he could win 12 games They don't think so. Look around. Anybody winning 12 games is on the strength of the team. I know the person asking, he's a Ravens fan.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You know, the team wasn't very good this year. Y'all didn't win 12 games. I think it is about the team construction in the NFL. I think that's been proven over and over again. There are a certain class of quarterbacks. I'm not putting him in that class, no question. But there's four or five guys on any given year that are like that dude. And then everybody else is at the mercy of to do.
Starting point is 01:13:33 different degrees their surroundings. And I think Bryce is one of those guys. I think he can be a eight to 15 type quarterback. That's that to me is where he is. And that can win you a Super Bowl if you construct the roster properly. I do think so. But at this point, like, you're just putting one foot in front of the other if you're Carolina. Like, what do you do after you make the playoffs when your win totals six games? You don't say, hey, let's find. a new quarterback. I don't think. I think you pick up his option, figure it out. Give him one year to really say, hey, we're in phase. Remember at the beginning of this season, you were like, who are they edge rushers? Like, there's no names on this defense. You know, Jay C. Horn and Derek
Starting point is 01:14:19 Brown, pro bowl snub. You know, there's Mike Jackson. There's, you know, they got some good players, but Averro did a great job with the scheme. Yeah, they finished the regular season, 301st, and pressure rate. Yeah. It's a pass rushing a bad way. Just as a lot. Just as a I don't need the weapons offensively. They need the weapons. What say you, Chris Long, all season of training. Go down and play for your childhood. My childhood team, they're going to have to put grass on the field.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Are they turf team now? I'm going to have to put grass in the field. They got grass down there. They have grass now? Yeah. Funny, you watch them. You'll play in Charlotte. Boy, you will be coaching you, imagine.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Canales? No. Bates. Oh, Bates? Yeah, I go from me being Bates' big brother to him yelling at me Because I'd probably be on field goal protection They'd be like, I'd be down in pass rush And they just put me on the worst special teams
Starting point is 01:15:15 Get Bates screaming at me No, they, they You know, Mello at the Dodd said, I'm also a Lions fan Thank you very much. He got a side team, this is my kind of guy You got side teams, dude Oh, it's tough, man, because I got side teams too As you know, I'm a big side team guy
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah, I just don't know if I just, yeah, see, they are a turf team. They rip the grass out, guys. Thank you, chat. So I don't know. I think the Rams really do, the Rams match up better than, than you think, coming out of a game where they lost that thing. You know, I think it's, I hate to say, it's kind of like lambs to the slaughter. And the Rams are pissed off, too.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Rams are pissed off too. They haven't finished the season the way they want to finish the season. Devontayheim's going to be back. Lake's going to be back. That's huge. Just heard that this morning. That's huge. So, yeah, this one, people are kind of overlooking it.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I hope it's a game. I hope the Prince makes it a game. You know, but this would be the Cinderella story of all Cinderella stories. Because this team's not really supposed to be in the playoffs. Honestly, you could make a case for any of the NFC South teams, like being dangerous and like i would say the panthers respectfully are like kind of least dangerous team of all those teams in the playoffs like if you stuck the falcons in the playoffs you'd be like fuck man like they create a lot of pressure like some of the best quarterbacks in league have really
Starting point is 01:16:50 struggled against them stafford allen you know guys like that have had really rough games against this group they got one of the best ball carriers in the in the in the game running back or wide receiver you know be john robinson um they they they they they they they they they they they the Saints. Now, the Saints, I watched that game Sunday. I bet the Saints in the second half, plus a half point. That Tyler Shuck drive at the end of the game, he's leading absolutely nobody down the field respectfully.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Like, Estima, Pettis, guys like that. Like, I think that New Orleans team needs to build around that quarterback. Hell, yeah. And honestly, I feel more confident. You know how I'm like, I've been like Team Bryce and everything? I think Shuck's pretty good. I think Shuck's pretty damn good. I do.
Starting point is 01:17:40 So the point is you kind of put this NFC South to bed. Each team has reason for optimism in the future, right? The Bucks, because they are the Bucks. Is Shuck going to win rookie to the year? Offensive rugby of the year. They'll probably give it to DART after his performance the other day. Dart? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Was it between him, DART and Tett? Yeah. Yeah, it could be Tett or it could be DART. And I think defensively it should be Immanwari. Tet is? And what's Dart? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:15 So Tett's running away with it. So that's good for you too, right? Why? Why? Because you fuck with Bryce. I do fuck with Bryce. That can't win that without Bryce, right? No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:18:26 You're right about that. But I kind of look at the defense, and it's a lot easier for me. Is Eamon Wari the leader in the club? house? Yeah, Swettinger's minus 700. I'm sorry, bullshit. Eamon Worry's plus 500. Bro, there's no fucking way. I think
Starting point is 01:18:45 Swettinger is incredible. I think he's a great player. That Eamon Worry guy? Pierce should be up there too, right? Pierce has plus 1400. So that's another thing. The Falcons, they fired Rahim Morris, right? That kind of was not a shocker, but you're like...
Starting point is 01:19:01 And the GM. And the GM. Is it going viral with the... You know, the hug of death. To me, to me, the guy that, like, it's a real shame if they let Jeff Olberg walk. Like, I know that the new guy's probably going to bring his guys, but I thought Jeff Alberg did a great job this year. And honestly, maybe they look at him. Maybe they have a guy in mind.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I don't know. But, like, the way they finished the season, they did have some fucking momentum. This team was close to being a 10-win team. And again, kind of scary. If they could nail the quarterback thing, again, Mike Tomlin. But if it'd be pretty scary. You would go, they should hire defensive on the defensive side of the ball, right? Whether it's Ulbrick or whether it's in the meetings.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I want to sit in the meetings. I want to know. This is the one that I, like in Baltimore, I feel like, hey, if you can go get B-Flow, I'm like, yeah, go do that. You know who I'm really into? lately and I talked about him for a while yesterday on the live stream was the was no no it's the fucking Indiana coach sig yeah if I was an NFL coach there was an NFL you know GM or front office I'd be throwing the bag at that guy you'd be paying that $15 million buyout I'd be paying
Starting point is 01:20:22 the buyout no problem no problem I'm arthur blank yeah he wins google him bro that guy you think that translate I think that usually I'm very skeptical of college coaches yeah I feel he has the emotional intelligence that it takes to be a pro coach when i heard him talk about not not wasting people's time yep i was like bro i'm in yeah like he is just he's a dog man yeah now again like there's a million candidates hot names and oCs and you know dc's and that sort of thing you got to get through but i was just i wanted to take a minute to talk about signetti um saints again like kellen more figuring out how to coach this young rookie go not young rookies quarterback 27 years old and and brandon staley retread doing a good job with the defense i want to shout
Starting point is 01:21:12 out chase young 10 sacks do some people's preseason defensive player the year yeah that was funny who's making was he remember that is funny because all the sudden if they're 13 and three he might have 15 of those things that's the way this thing works so anyways i i i think all the nfc south teams as bad as it was this year they all have they all have reasons to be excited about the future was it and one of the reasons they play in the nfciss south was it six finger point at pat mac if he was also something that they got you what did he do oh that's a good finger point that's a real good finger point i love the fact that he wears a cue zip with no shirt on underneath this guy's just this guy's awesome you know how all college football coaches make me feel like they're snake oil salesman
Starting point is 01:21:57 and y'all know what i'm talking about in the chat like i just don't trust them Like for college football coach, for you to get into college football, like you want to be a king. Like if you want to be a head coach in college football, it's about control to me. It's hard for me to convince like PJ Fleck, no offense. Like Bo's nod in his head. I saw Bo's face. That's a perfect example, dude. It's like how you can't trust a politician because they're just so, you know, narcissistic and self-interested.
Starting point is 01:22:28 That's kind of, I feel like, you know, the Venn diagram of. politicians and college football coaches and PJ Flex not the only one guy got a long list of them you know but but Sig to me and I'm talking about a guy that when I heard him say Google me I was like get a load of this fucking guy but but ever since
Starting point is 01:22:45 Google him like he is just a dog he took a bunch of JMU transfers and beat the beat the dog out of Alabama the no shirt under the quarter zip thing that's an all ball mood that's all ball I love that yeah that's That's a coach move.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Somebody said Chris is high saying Zayflowers isn't one of those dudes. It's like saying Will Anderson isn't one of those dudes. Brother, you're high. And I just wanted to highlight your terrible comparison, an accusation that I smoked this morning, which I didn't.
Starting point is 01:23:20 That's terrible. What a terrible take. Oh, he's got a lot of receiving yards. Cool. You know what? I had a bunch of tackles this year. Devin White. you just compared him to will anderson ask around dude ask around do that ask around ask around ask around
Starting point is 01:23:39 well you can't because you don't know anybody but ask around okay seriously kill him chat just fucking kill him throw him outside get him throw him outside i can throw my minions my locals on you somebody break a pool stick over that guy's back figuratively i use can't leave oh i'm not gonna be nice if you tell me i'm high when i'm not it's one of my pet peeves i'm not gonna be nice all right so anyways um bucks panthers we'll see seahawks and niners i promise you seattle fans because you guys are starting to get uh like sometimes seattle fans man you don't know who's on your side i'm on your side i've been on your side all year picture to win the division name on one hand probably I'll be the national media people that did that.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I know Bo is one of them, obviously. But. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. I mean, I've been a big Seahawks stand all season, Chris, and I wish you would have been also. So anyways, I, um, uh, so I just, this was, the reason I gave out the Seahawks was because at least in part of the injuries, I mean, like, Trent being down, Kittle being down, um, Pierceall being down.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Like, they, and also. It'll made it back for the game. Yeah, Kittle limping out there. Like, I gave them out on what Thursday? I was on vacation. I caught some flack for giving them out. Gave them out when they played the Rams the first time. They covered, actually.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Gave them out the second time. They won. The Seahawks are legit, dude. They're just, they're a football team. They're the classic, hey, well, the quarterback you could be nitpicky about, but it is about the team, right? So the quarterback's going to be a bit of a time bomb in the playoffs. And I thought he played,
Starting point is 01:25:34 pretty well in this game. Like as much as I came out of the game and said, hey, man, like Sam Darnold, you know, that's the kind of game that's going to keep you from beating the allegations. There's still little things like throwing a hospital ball, staring down JSN at the pylon, like staring him down. He's got a THC. I might try that too in a second.
Starting point is 01:25:55 The first and one down there in the goal line before they don't pick it up, like you've got to be fast to the flat there. There's a couple little nitpicky things, right? And history tells me that like, hey, he's got to prove in the playoffs. But if they can run the ball like that, which they did a very good job of in this game. Now, I know San Francisco's defense isn't very good, right? It's one of the reasons the Eagles might be actually pretty excited about this matchup. I thought they're tight ends.
Starting point is 01:26:20 The receivers blocked their asses off in this game. I thought they did a good job of getting little man indicators, pre-snap motion, that type of thing. You saw like on that touchdown nub side, safety gets a little heavy on the tight end. You know, it's a great bounce from Charbonnet, great vision. You know, they're doing things schematically. I think Clint Kubiak is like a legit OC, dude. I think probably a future head coach. I really do.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Not knowing him, he might be a wet blanket. I don't know. But schematically, I think he's done a great job there. Charbonnet Stud. Kenneth Walker Stud. He plays like that stud. I thought the screen game was good. really nothing to report from this game that I didn't already know about this team.
Starting point is 01:27:03 You know, people were like, I want you to break it down last night? There's really not a lot to break down here other than the defense is just suffocating. You know, those guys rushed together really well. You know, Nolan made a point about the pre-snap disguises in this game, a bunch of different ways to get to different coverages. Mike McDonald's one of those dudes. I mean, he legitimately is. And he's got these guys playing great.
Starting point is 01:27:25 And if you know anything about playing in Seattle, it is a motherfucker. So they lock up the one Cesar. seed. They, I don't think, I saw some crazy stat. Every time they've had the one seed, they've gone to the Super Bowl. Yeah, the Seahawks have. Yeah, because you got to think about it. It's far travel. Like, you might get lucky with that terrible weather that you're used to. That's right. That other teams aren't. But I just feel like, too, yeah, like having, depending on what team you are, having to go across country or that long flight and time difference and when are we playing. and sleeping and being rested, that whole thing can definitely be a factor.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And the noise. The noise. I'm just telling you this place is next level. I mean, it is. You can't hear anything up there. And so this is going to be a hell of a place to have home field advantage. Obviously, they get the buy, which is huge for a quarterback. That's a little variable.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Like, it's kind of like the less time you, the less games he plays, the better. It's not a secret. I mean, it just is what it is. I mean, like, teams have strengths and weaknesses. dude like he he's a strength but he also has some weaknesses right um i i think you know he's obviously got great armed talent i think bradford might get you beat at some point like i worry about bradford and that's nothing new to you know to seattle fans but like you get one of these teams that's really creative with their middle pressures or dominant inside could be a bad matchup you think
Starting point is 01:28:51 about the eagles going to seattle that could be a 10-3 game like you know and it could go either way Honestly, so they're the type of team that can beat anybody and they can get beat by almost anybody. They're in a dogfight with the Panthers in Carolina two weeks ago. So, you know, like Seattle earned it. Fucking hell of a team could win the whole thing. Could also be one and done. You know, teams get rusty off by. So, you know, I thought the third and 17 was a backbreaker for San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:29:24 At that point, it's late in the third, you're up a touchdown. down and you third and 17 you run the football you pick up the first down so that that was a bad deal but look at json blocking look at bobo blocking on that play might have tripped somebody that play not to be the police but i don't know if anybody saw that on the tv copy um but the thing that impressed me about sam's day was they have the ball backed up 10 minutes ago and you need a drive you know you can't go three and out you know you're up uh up 10 i think or something at that point or i don't score was I think it was 13 3 at that point. And you take the ball for eight minutes and drive the ball down on the field and flip
Starting point is 01:30:03 the field unless I missed something. It was kind of in a haze. It was 133 at that point. 133. And I think they had like an eight minute drive. Yep. So that to me is like that that's the type of stuff you need. That was an adult win from them.
Starting point is 01:30:17 And, you know, it's not style points with this Seattle team. It really isn't. And it wasn't style points all the time with the Legion of Boom, dude. It wasn't always. That defense was dominant. This defense is pretty damn good. They're right up there with that group. Different, but right up there.
Starting point is 01:30:32 You and Bo have talked about the Eagles Super Bowl team, how close you guys were, how much fun you guys have. After the game defensive tackle winner Williams said, this is the closest team I've ever been on in big games, critical moments. Doubt leaves the room because we know each other so well. It seems like they're set up, like those close-knit teams which you guys have talked about before, are set up really well for a deep playoff run. Dude, I think all these teams, it's the invisible thing that you can't see, right? Like, you just don't know. You can hear about it.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Like, you might see guys making plays and mugging each other up and having a good time on the field and be like, oh, the team's close. But, like, the door's closed and they're all, they're leaving the building. They're not hanging out. Or, you know, they're just tight when the times are good. Like, there's some of these teams that have that special thing about them. And I don't know what it is. you know when in 17 i think i think Seattle has this same thing where they don't have a lot of stars we didn't have a lot of stars dude in 17 like we really didn't we had who were the stars of that
Starting point is 01:31:42 team uh a j fletcher cox fletcher cox al shan um but alshan wasn't a alshan was a great player yeah but he wasn't a star we'd play indoors I know for that's a good point. I said that, man, I don't want to bring this up. But who are the stars on that team? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Like the star of the team. The star of the team was the star of the team. Selig. Yeah, the star of the team is Fletcher Cox. Fletcher Cox is like a 1990s player, dude. He just wants to dominate people, have gap integrity, reset the line of scrimmage and go sit in a deer stand, dude.
Starting point is 01:32:26 He's like a fucking dude. He's just a dude. And I think like the Seahawks, man, like, look at the guys they brought in. Who are their best players? JSN's a young player. I haven't heard him puff his chest out once until Lenore wanted him one-on-one after the game. And he was like, you can obviously he like had planned it. But he was like, I got to get this out.
Starting point is 01:32:44 He was like, I can't reach out to all my fans. I love that. And good for him because, you know, like, you know, to be a receiver in the National Football League, you got to have some shit to you anyways. But, like, Donald's not, Donald had to reinvent himself. like outside of that outside of those guys you bring in tank lawrence who's not a star a great player in this league for a long time a pass rusher's favorite pass rusher you know Leonard williams underrated great player in this league for a long time uh you know you got murphy um ernest jones who's
Starting point is 01:33:14 happy to be there right like you've got you've got guys in the secondary witherspoon who i've never heard talk i don't know if he talks a lot i've just never heard him talk you know what i'm saying like you go up and down the line like this team is about the team They do have a he man. Human worry. And I see him talking out there. And I like him a lot, dude. He's a fucking dog.
Starting point is 01:33:34 People say they were calling him demon worry. Which is sick. Somebody said Zach Ertz was a star. Yeah, he was a star. You're right. I think with a Seattle team. Yeah. Jenkins, you're right.
Starting point is 01:33:46 You're right. We had some stars. But these guys weren't like, we didn't have the personalities where guys were like going to be infighting or, you know, you never went. I'm not taking shots to the current team. But what I am saying is like, We never, you never heard about anything like that because like, what were any of us going to do? We didn't have the leverage. You could say Brooks was a star.
Starting point is 01:34:06 He's one of the best guards in league. You could say Lane was a star. He's one of the best tackles in the league. But like those aren't like superstar positions. You know, like it's just not, we were not a star-studded team. We had a lot of very good players. Good roster. So anyways.
Starting point is 01:34:20 All pros that season, Kelsey, Lane, Fletch, Carson Wentz. So three of them in the trenches. Yes. and Kelsey wasn't a star yet. Kelsey was a Philly star. But like people around the league weren't, they knew Kelsey was great, but like we didn't have,
Starting point is 01:34:35 we kind of snuck up on people. Seattle's the same way. I'm sure some people took Seattle to be a third team in the NFC West. Some people probably picked them fourth. You know, some part, a lot of people probably didn't have them in the playoffs. Look at them, number one seed.
Starting point is 01:34:50 So they, they coming from nowhere, relatively speaking, is kind of a superpower for a team. That's just my take. Is there a team for the Seahawks that you think they would most want to see and also most not want to see? Yeah, I don't think, I kind of think, I think the off, I don't think they want to see San Francisco again,
Starting point is 01:35:13 because I think San Francisco healthy is different. If Fred Warner's back in a game, like Fred Warner can swing a game pretty substantially, I don't, I don't know if they feel very good about the Rams matchup. both those Rams matchups like they turned the ball over a fuck ton in the first one still almost beat them you can look at that as like being really positive
Starting point is 01:35:34 but look at all the things that had to happen in the last one for them to win that game I was happy as a clam I bet the Seahawks that night but I didn't deserve to win that game I didn't deserve to cash out you know what I'm saying I looked at that game as being like man they kind of got like
Starting point is 01:35:51 I'm not saying they didn't deserve to win it but some things had to go right some very fluky things had to go right for them to win that game you know and uh that's what happens though when you play in seattle fluky things happen in that stadium dude the fucking onside kick against green bay the replacement refs thing i could count on two hands the number of things that like i look back at our games up there and we lost seven in a row up there and every game it was like something happened where you're like these guys have a horse shoe jams so far up their ass it's just the way it is when you play in that stadium so they so they
Starting point is 01:36:32 will see uh either depending on who wins the panthers the rams the niners or bucks they split their series with the rams and niners this year they've defeated carolina in week 17 uh and have and play the packers this season okay so again profile in this team can beat anybody can win the super bowl but can lose to almost anybody you know and and and then on the other side of things you have the nineers who you know they lose this game they draw the eagles which is a tough draw i mean that's a tough draw for them i also think like a lot's going to be made of what the eagles did yesterday what do you guys think about that because i you know i got a take i was bending nolan's ear on the way over about it but i can start on this i mean it's it's interesting i think i actually you're talking about as far as
Starting point is 01:37:20 wrestling starters. Yes. I think it's the right move. I mean, it's, and again, I was at this game. This is, I didn't really talk to any of the players or anything about this, but I think there's a little bit of hindsight that is clouding some people's judgment on this, in my opinion. I actually feel a lot better about the 49ers draw than, you know, maybe certainly the Rams. So that worked out well. But, you know, you're a head coach.
Starting point is 01:37:50 in a week 18, your playoff seating is locked. It's out of your control, right? Like this game is dependent on a Lions Bears game that you have no impact on. Like it's the same exact time as you can't really monitor it in real time and make adjustments based on, you know, what is going on in that game. So it's like, yeah, just rest your guys,
Starting point is 01:38:10 get them ready and, you know, keep everyone protected. Keep your critical guys protected from injury. And I mean, that's basically what happened. You saw kind of a scary Calcutera. Andrian, I think he's going to be all right. But it's outside of your control. There's nothing you can do. So I think, I mean, I think it's the right move.
Starting point is 01:38:32 I don't know. What do you think, Chris? I think coming in my take was this. You, if you're going to play the starters, you play them, you get them out real quick. You get a lead. You get them out. If you don't want to play the starters, I get that, right? Because in recent history, like, look,
Starting point is 01:38:49 Didn't they do this and AJ Brown got hurt a couple years ago in week 18? Like, wasn't that a thing? Going in the, I'll give you guys time to check my work. The 2020-23 season, 24 against the Giants. AJ Brown suffered a knee injury in the Philadelphia Eagles week 18 game, January 2024 against the Giants, though it wasn't considered serious, leading him to miss the wildcar playoff game against Tampa Bay. He wasn't the difference in that game.
Starting point is 01:39:17 They just got their asses kick. But if something like that had happened in this game, like they kept Smitty in a little long to get them a thousand yards, right? Like to me, that's the stuff that I'm like, all right, well, this doesn't really square. Now, I think the reason that- Well, actually, Chris, before you move on from that, like, I get what you're saying. You're like, what's the point of the smitty thing is what I'm saying. Fucking cock sucker. I don't even remember what the fuck I was trying to say.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Oh, yeah. So like, you're like, why would you leave Smitty in to get him, you know, a thousand yard season? I think that that's one of those things where Smitty was likely, like, likely had a conversation, you know, with Nick or whomever about wanting to say it and getting, you know, get that thousand yards season. Maybe he's got some incentives or whatever. And probably the similar kind of dialogue was had between the key leaders, the vets on that team. Like, do you guys want to play? Like, how do you want to approach this? That's what I kind of think. Yeah, no. And you might be right. My whole thing is this. Number one, if you're going to sit the offensive line, okay, does the offensive line need a rest? Absolutely. Do you need to sit the offensive line? Absolutely. Would you play Jalen Hurts behind that shitty offensive line? And no disrespect to the guys. Depth guys, I'm saying like, no, that's a hazard to your starting quarterback. You also need to rest Jalen Hertz so you can burn the ships. And by that I mean run the football with the quarterback because that's what's going to take in this year's playoffs. And do I think he can flip the switch? and be the playoff jalen we all know and love yeah sure i'll give him i'll give him a year right like he deserves the grace to you know go through one regular season where the plays up and down for the offense and say like all right if you're going to turn it on the playoffs i'll believe you if you do it this
Starting point is 01:41:04 year but like you got to do it and so give him a rest i think like the the the alternate um setup would have been playing the packers which would have been nice especially because the the bear's loss you had a chance to be the two seed. But if you think about what the Eagles want, they need their offense to get going. And, you know, certainly in a vacuum, you probably feel better about a matchup with the Packers. But if you don't get your offense going, which it didn't look great playing the Packers the first time, I know they have Michael Parsons. San Francisco is not great defensively. You love your matchups outside. There's no pass rush. Fred Warner said he's a game away. Like, you need your offense to get going if you want to
Starting point is 01:41:53 make a run. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't care what happens this week. You absolutely need to get that offense going. That's why it just comes down to the defense playing really well. We were talking about it on the way over. And Noel was like, how many points? You know, how many points do you think it's going to take? I think that I think the Niners can get into the 20s. I think they're, when I think about the, the Eagles defense, you don't believe that. I think the Eagles defense is fucking great. I just think you guys are under estimating schematically. Look at that Chicago game. A lot of window dressing, a lot of moving parts before the snap, pre-snap, during the snap. Those linebackers were spinning, dude. Shanahan's that kind
Starting point is 01:42:41 of guy. You just can't expect for it to be a 10-7 game. So, so. No, I don't think it will. But I think the defense matches up well against this opposite. I think Vic's defensive structure matches up well against the Shanahan scheme. Sure. But what you can't do is bank on them holding them 10 points. If people think that's what it's going to be, I'm sorry. And you can't expect that to be that way every week. The offense has to be.
Starting point is 01:43:05 If you can hold them the 24 points, you've got to feel good. Yes. That's kind of the range that I think it's going to, I think it's going to take 27 points to win this game. I think it's going to take 26 points to win this game. And that ain't a shot at our D. I think our defense is fucking fantastic. But if Trent's up, that makes a big difference. Kittles up, obviously.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Pierce Hall, could he be up? You got to limit the scrambles. You know, that's what Seattle did well. They rushed together. I would expect a lot of window dressing. I would expect a lot of pre-snap motion. You know, a lot of that stuff that Ben Johnson did, I think they're honing in on that type of stuff in the run game.
Starting point is 01:43:43 And then gap scheme, right, try to use. use Jalen and those guys aggression against, you know, trap these guys, throw the kitchen sink at them. That's what you're going to see. You're going to see the best game plan that anybody could draw up. And I think the Eagles defense is good enough to limit them to low 20s, right? If anything south of that, fucking, it's icing on the cake, right? I don't know what the weather is going to be like this weekend, but the offense has got to get going. You know, I had you pull numbers on Jalen Hertz against Sala Tree defenses. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:44:21 Yeah, if you look at the last three years, it's basically like a six-game sample size. Most of us, the Packers matchups under Jeff Halfley. There's a 20-23 matchup against the Jets when Sal was the head coach there. Also, week 13 to 20-20 through the Niners. They've kind of run that same system. And I also included week six from last year against the Browns because Schwartz defense is really similar. assistance very similar and jalen has been a 59% completion nine t ds five picks seven turnover worthy plays 10 sacks and a 91.5 rating over that sample yeah so kind of a mixed bag listen i i i think
Starting point is 01:45:01 the eagles win this game i i i like the eagles in this game and you know if they don't win this game it's a problem right like i hate to hold them to that standard but all we've heard all year is they'll get it right in the playoffs. If they don't get it right in the playoffs offensively, then absolutely. And people know this something has to change offensively. I mean, that's almost a four-gone conclusion anyways. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:27 What are you going to say? I mean, to your point, Chris, it's like if you can't score against this injury depleted 49ers defense, like it is indicative of a much greater schematic problem. Like that's, you know, it can't really get a clearer picture than that. Yeah. I think it would be interesting to see you've got the 49ers wide receiver room where Jennings is your one and then you've got the Eagles secondary. Who's going to, you know, because on paper it's like, okay, Eagles secondary, Mitchell's going to, you know, he's going to have. Do you consider Jennings the one?
Starting point is 01:46:02 Well, of their, I mean, because it Jennings and then you got Pearsall to Markets. I guess you don't really have like, can you name a one from that group in Brock. They really have a one. I would say Pierceville is closer to the one. Kittle might be your one. Kittles everything. man. Kittles everything because you talk about, I mean, we still got apps playing
Starting point is 01:46:17 safety who's done a nice shot, but he's still not, you know, your guy, right? Quinyon's going to erase whoever he matches up with. I think Cooper DeGine is huge in this game. When you talk about run fits, you're honestly getting the two Captain America as little motherfuckers in the NFL
Starting point is 01:46:33 Christian McCaffrey and Cooper DeGine. Like honestly, they're like gym rats on like, you know, like mutant gym rats, dude. It's going to be fun to watch him fit up runs like his eyes are going to be really important in this game right and uh i just i know i can feel in the chat there's a lot of like it doesn't matter we're the you know it's the fucking playoffs man like you you got to be concerned playing a shanahan offense there's a lot
Starting point is 01:47:02 of hey they're they're going to score seven 10 points i do think our offense that are going to have to show up 14 point games not going to get it done and if it does great i'll be the fucking i'll be of pinging shit but um you know i like a rock fight but i just feel like you're gonna have to get going offensively and it's a good week to do it because you have the personnel advantage there's no excuse for you not hitting 20 on this defense you're at home you got to take the air out of it early right make make the nineers one-dimensional in that case you can you can run away with it but if the niners are possessing the football they're going three plays at a time they got a good third down play plan, you know, you worry about that stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:46 I did not love what I saw from the backers. When I look at the litmus test, and that was the Chicago game for me, it's just stuck in my head. You know, so. Since Purdy returned from his big toe injury in week 11, San Francisco is averaging 30 points per game that's fourth in the NFL, and Purdy is a 73.6 QBR, which would rank second if he had enough plays to, if he had played enough to qualify. I heard you're going to do the duggy on you. He has been dugging, dude. He has been a little nervous.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Because he actually looks cool doing it. Here's a guy this week. Here's a guy. Bro. Bryce Huff is going to be, his hair is going to be on fire. I don't know if that does anything for them. But like, you talk about a revenge game.
Starting point is 01:48:39 That guy had zero sacks last year or whatever it was. They ran him out of town. His name's like a dirty word in Philly. And he's actually played pretty well in San Francisco. He's going to be playing for his life, dude. And Lane, I don't know if Lane's coming back this weekend. I don't know what the, you know, what the word is with that. But if Lane can make it back, that makes a big difference.
Starting point is 01:49:01 That makes a big, big difference. So, but another reason they played Tanner McKee, they threw the ball 40 plus times. Don't you think they wanted to get out of there? Yeah. Why do you throw the ball 40 plus times? Number one, you want to get the kids some work just in case. Number two, you want the league to see him throw the football because he looks pretty fucking good throwing the football.
Starting point is 01:49:22 You might, somebody might call you about Tanner McKee in a couple months. You know, like there's a reason they threw the ball a lot with him because Tank was looking pretty good out there. And tanks the guy that we've been asking to get more touches. You've got to be able to run the ball in San Francisco. San Francisco's lane expected to return. San Francisco, which changes everything. San Francisco's defense, their linebackers are fast flow.
Starting point is 01:49:48 You watch that Seattle game. You can cut it back on these guys. You can get them running sideline to sideline. That's something that Petulow should be looking at this week when he dials up his run plan. The run game is going to be huge. I think this is a bad defense, but it's really hard if he can't run the football. Do you think maybe that's why Tank didn't play the whole? like last 16, 17 minutes of the game?
Starting point is 01:50:14 Because they were sitting up like, hey, we don't want anything maybe to happen. Maybe so. Maybe so. I don't know. I can't speak for what Nick's thinking, you know. Is it your point about Tanner McKee. His contract is up. He's under contract through next season.
Starting point is 01:50:30 So theoretically, this off-season probably would make the most sense for a move because if you let him get to free agency, get nothing for it. The Eagles aren't going to be the highest bidder, too. No. Like you view him as a backup. another team might view them as a bridge starter so i think somebody's looking at i think the the buzz in the building has always been that that kid can really play so you know that that's what people
Starting point is 01:50:50 think around the league i'm pretty sure too um you obviously end up with the with the bears lost yesterday um this was a major culture win for dan campbell i think you know like rightfully so they've taken it on the chin late in the season about some of the games that they've lost and how they've lost them game, you know, they kind of controlled the football for a lot of it. And I think, you know, like not talking about the lines as much, we can kind of, we can kind of dissect that team and put them to bed later this week. But I think the bears are going to be drained. They could be one and done. I actually like the Packers this weekend because I think the Packers are going to be pissed off. They had no business losing that game in the second one. That was like just epic meltdown.
Starting point is 01:51:40 botched onside kick whole thing um and the bears you look at their defense right now you know if they don't get the turnovers they got a turnover late in that game and had a shot at it with with byard they're just not a scary group again they're a year ahead of schedule um they are going to be playing at home that's a big lift for them that is a tough a tough um atmosphere but like they were on the field a fuck ton they've been on the field a lot the last two weeks i mean they've been running ragged and Detroit had the ball a lot. So I just kind of, like I think LaFleur, who, you know, some people think he's coaching for his job, you know, he's going to have his best plan. And I think as a head coach, you go into that football game and you know Chicago can kind of jam the ball down your throat
Starting point is 01:52:24 a little bit. But now he already took a THC, Willie's remedy, so he didn't even hear me. How you doing over there? I'm good. Did it work already? It's all right. Yeah. Shout out to Willie Nelson. Is that who this is, Willie? Fuck, yeah, dude. The goat. It's weird. It's a drink, but it's making my mouth dry.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah, that's interesting. It's because there's weed in it. I need some of that. I'm dying over here. I'm about to go throw up to see you guys know. Yeah, I got this. Don't worry. But the Eagles, the Eagles, we're talking about the Eagles again.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I looked at my nose and said the Eagles. But I think this is going to be, this is just what the doctor ordered. You get a trilogy with these two teams. I don't think the Packers are necessarily. really going anywhere. You know, they have had a couple weeks to adjust the whole Michael Parsons thing. You know, I don't know what Halfley's got, like, Rabbit and the Hat wise for the playoffs, but when you watch them, they're kind of trapped.
Starting point is 01:53:25 They don't have the rush, man. And it sucks to say, because I like some of them as rushers, but they just, the sum of of the parts doesn't add up. And they don't have a Batman anymore. and uh rishon gary who i think is really solid and i think bari who i think is really solid like they need somebody who can win rushes like like no questions asked you know and they don't have that person
Starting point is 01:53:51 but this is the type of game they can win and uh and i think the bears are going to be a little worn out coming off uh these two games and and you could see it ben johnson at the end of the game when c j gardner johnson got hurt he was just like fuck because he's looking at the scoreboard and it really don't even need to be in the game anymore because at this point like the eagles are about to lose to Washington another reason the eagles probably suited to not play their guys my wife pointed this out last night she was just cooking dinner like kind of looking at the tv while i was over there with the kids she goes you know the eagles went for two in the first matchup dan quinn's probably out for blood and i'm like that's a really fucking good point like honestly that team's probably
Starting point is 01:54:30 a little pissed off and frankie louvoo is out there doing questionable shit anyways like you really I mean, somebody gets hurt in that football game. But Ben Johnson at the end of the game, looking at the Eagles game, still getting caught up into, hey, we want to beat my old boss and losing C.J. Gardner Johnson at the end of that thing is, you know, who's been really good for them since he showed up. So bad vibes going to the playoffs for both these teams a little bit. And we'll see.
Starting point is 01:54:57 We will see. You were talking about the Packers' defense in the post-Michael Parsons world, specific to this matchup. I was talking about this a couple weeks ago. with the Bears offense, the bread and butter being play action and outside zone. In the last three weeks without Michael Parsons, Packers, have really struggled with those two concepts. They're 23rd and success rate allowed against outside zone and 21st
Starting point is 01:55:21 and success rate allowed against Pat. So no boy, no. They're not fitting up those two concepts very well. They're going to have to score, which is, you know, honestly, it goes back to the whole LaFloor. Let's get fucking aggressive thing that I've been banging that drum. you know let's get let's get aggressive um take some shots um you know and and and and let jordan love eat i know toytathon is over officially but um but you know he should be well rest the
Starting point is 01:55:48 fucking guy sat there the whole game with his helmet on yesterday on the sideline it looked like he was like he looks so mad watching uh i can't you fucking get this guy's name right the clayton tune we're going to get you a jersey former cardinals quarterback he yeah dude if you had the packers win total like it was cruel to have one eye on that game and it was like they could do it because Minnesota is so bad
Starting point is 01:56:14 speaking of Minnesota JJ McCarthy leaves the game with a with a hand again the same hand it's like damn you can't even get a good look at the guy and you can tell how gutty he was high fiving dudes with his left hand coming off the field and he was like I'm sorry man I'm fucking
Starting point is 01:56:29 you know he was pissed and dudes were just walking dude you're just walking so Um, so you've got that, uh, we already talked about Rams Panther. We've kind of, we've kind of done the whole slate here. I this is, this is it guys. You wait, you wait months. This is like a baby being born. It's just been gestating. And here it is. It's this, this is the, this is the fruits of our labor. This is the, the playoff picture, dude. I cannot wait for this weekend. And by the end of the
Starting point is 01:56:59 weekend you'd be so sick of football, dude. By Monday night, you're going to be like, dude, do we really need to have this many wildcar games? But when you look at it on paper, it's so fun. Do you guys like the Monday night wild car game? No. No. Move it to Saturday. Yeah. Move it to Saturday, dude. Move it to Saturday. Terrible. That's how it used to be, you know, I know there were less games where you just camp out all weekend at your favorite bar. And I'm talking about when I was a player because we were never in it until I ended up in some of the until I ended up in the penthouse. Dude, I'm telling you as a fan
Starting point is 01:57:30 I'm like y'all dude I love fucking playoffs dude I love watching the playoffs I love going to a bar and watching the games like you know some people are like I can't even watch the playoffs when I'm not in a bro fuck that dude
Starting point is 01:57:46 playoffs are awesome they're awesome and I used to love watching them at um what was the name of that Irish bar around here that's not there anymore McGrady's McRadies greatest wings ever
Starting point is 01:57:58 I used to love McGrady's, bro. That was a fun time in my life. I haven't seen the inside of a bar in quite a while. So both of your Super Bowl runs, you played the divisional game on Saturday, and then the conference championship and the Super Bowl on Sunday. You didn't have a Monday matchup. Yeah, no. But I wonder how many teams, we can dive into this maybe on Thursday,
Starting point is 01:58:19 but how many of those Monday night games if they advanced or if that day of rest really hurts into the divisional round? Yeah, I'm not really sure. We can add that up, but, but it's a lot of waiting. It's a lot of waiting. That's unsettling all that waiting. The Monday night game is, is it Houston Pittsburgh or what? Yeah, I believe so. I mean, who does that, who does that favor? D.K. in the Pittsburgh. I mean, it's just to see an angle for the Steelers having an advantage in this one. Somebody check the weather of Pittsburgh. It's 10-day. Yeah, somebody said, yeah, that's right. Birds in Tampa Bay, that was on a Monday night. Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh weather.
Starting point is 01:59:11 36. Mostly sunny. Yeah, mostly sunny. It's going to be a cold one. Vaseline weather. If Aaron Rogers beats this defense, then. They really do. They really do have got overside.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I'm going to stretch, dude. But then the next week they'd have to go to where? you know probably the Pats or oh they go to no no no well it depends on they're a forcey which is
Starting point is 01:59:40 yeah it depends on yeah so let's say so let's say I mean like here if it goes to seed then yes they would go to Denver but if Buffalo or or Los Angeles gets a win then they would see say Buffalo
Starting point is 01:59:54 who do you want to see Denver you're sitting here you know twiddling your thumbs over dogs I want to see all right, I want to see Buffalo or Jacksonville doesn't matter. Revenge from last year. That's a bad, that's a bag.
Starting point is 02:00:10 No, no, no, no. Show you. So I'm both. You should want revenge. You should say, Dog of the day, right? I said, Buffalo Jacksonville.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Doesn't matter. I want them both. Jacksonville or Buffalo last year for the wildcard Jacksonville this year. Doesn't matter these two. Rather see Pittsburgh and definitely rather see New England. Yeah, they don't want to see Jags. again. Of course not. Yeah. No, I said
Starting point is 02:00:32 Jacksonville or Buffalo. Doesn't matter. We'd see them both. You got to pick. No problem. Got a pick. So who do you least want to see? Who do you most want to see? Least want to see the Chargers than the Texans. He's like, anybody, anywhere. Yeah. The Broncos. You're just worried about the defenses, huh?
Starting point is 02:00:48 Yeah. It's pretty much all the defenses. The best thing for the read is that you guys have a buy so you get to see your team there, but they're probably going to lose whoever they play. So it's just. That's hate. Dog. Have a good week.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Throw that in a super cut. If you lose it, we get, throw that in a super cut. Have a good week. Okay, all right. All right. So what do we do now? We want to give a little shout out to a gentleman who yesterday, huge day, broke the sack record. Oh, I thought we were going to shout out Kyle Long.
Starting point is 02:01:19 I'll do that in Bermuda. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got to talk about Miles Garrett. What he did is unreal. I know because I, have the internet that most people are like mr what about or like well actually and so that's like people get off on that so there's certain people that are saying joe burrow laid down or it took 17 games
Starting point is 02:01:45 okay cool cool story um he did it on the browns not only do they rarely ever have leads rarely ever have leads. He also did it with no real Robin. No disrespect to the guys around him. He did it by himself. And I don't think you understand how hard it is to get 10 sacks in the NFL, let alone to do it twice in one season, let alone to do it twice, and then sit there the last four games in every team constructing game plans in the most petty way possible to keep you from breaking the record, and you still break the fucking record. His get-off on the sack that broke the record was 0.23 seconds. It was the fastest get-off on a sack all season long.
Starting point is 02:02:33 That is absurd. So he won as fast as anybody basically all season long. He's like a fucking Puma out there. He's up and he's up and he's under the armpit and burrows down like a wounded deer because he's not, there's nowhere for him to go. This is not Brett Far of running towards Strayan. him falling down whether you thought that was intentional or not this is like he won a pass rush and was about to end joe burrow week 18 what do you think joe burrow is going to do he's going to
Starting point is 02:03:04 crumple this is crumpling this is i've seen joe do this five seven times this year so anybody who's questioning that sack like i'm just telling you it was honestly the perfect example how great this guy it was no brett farve it wasn't bret farvey if this was so this was so indicative of how great miles garret is this is how he if he'd won like on like a a 13 yard drop target like five second like coverage sack he's not getting any coverage sacks because nobody's holding the ball that long against them all these other teams that you see guys getting coverage sacks that's not a privilege he has and it's not because of the rest of his d line it's because of him so i'm just telling you this is pretty fucking impressive man um and i know there's
Starting point is 02:03:51 some AFC North fans in here that probably hate the guy. But I also know Miles Garrett. I do. He's a great kid. He's not a kid. He's a great person, man. He really is. I know that whole helmet thing was a bad misstep by him. And I know he probably wants that one back and whatever was set or wasn't set on the field, we can go backwards or we can just kind of stay here. But I would just say like everything I've ever seen from him, like done charity work with him, met his parents when at dinner with his parents, like great family, great teammate, good person. So it couldn't have happened to a better guy. And honestly, I don't know when the next rusher we're going to see like him. Like, I don't know, like lightning struck him, like Terminator. Like there's just not a lot of
Starting point is 02:04:41 Miles Garrets. There won't be another one. Not for a while. Michael Strahan said it yesterday. This is records are made to be broken, but you won't see this one broken for a while. you know um so you can have your opinions on it but he's a fucking he's one of one just to put that point two three uh second get off in a little more context his miles garrett's average get off is point seven seconds this season which leads the league and his get off yesterday on that sack is point five seconds right that's crazy that's crazy he's like this is the moment i know it that's insane dude. So anyways, sack record. Csac King.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Congrats. Miles Garrett. Brown's kind of sneaky, like maybe a destination, right? You had Swisenger. Yeah, I don't want to say what I'm going to say. It's almost like you're a quarterback away. And you know what's so funny to me is everybody said all Stavansky wanted to do was lose? No, he didn't. They won a bunch of games at the end of the year.
Starting point is 02:05:46 You pointed it out. How happy did he look? How happy was he after they won two weeks ago against the Steelers, bro? Give him an Academy Award. I heard all he wanted to do was lose. So, you know, I think in the fact that Andrew Barry still there, I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that, you know, Haslam, he's part of the reason they did the Deshaun trade,
Starting point is 02:06:09 which honestly, and you can say, hey, you know, I'm not some Stefansky Stan, but I, you know if you drop that bomb on me like what else can i do you know it kind of it kind of hamstrings the whole organization and everybody in it and everybody that follows and that includes shadore dylan gabriel joe flacco anybody in that uniform for the next three four years after you do something like that is swimming fucking upstream and uh and that's tough so i do think you're a quarterback away shouldore is going to be a part of that conversation going to the off season. He did some good things as a young player.
Starting point is 02:06:51 But I don't think he, I don't think it's his team. And I think anybody who's reasonable knows that at this point. Like this is going to be an open competition. They're going to bring more people in. And the next head coach is going to drive that. Now who's the right head coach? I don't know. But they actually inherit some good young players, man. Fan In Schweringer, guys like that. Like there's some. good players in this roster. They're the first team since the 1970 merger to have a rookie lead them in passing
Starting point is 02:07:22 rushing, receiving, and tackles with Shador, Quinchot and Doug Jenkins, Fanon and Swishinger. Would we want this organization to take a shot at someone like Sig? I mean, you know me.
Starting point is 02:07:40 I'm a sick guy now. I'm not really sure. Would you want, if his first shot in the NFL, would you want to throw him in that? My take is no better than anybody else is on this coach stuff the first day everybody gets fired. Like I'd really have to sit down and like analyze it. I mean, I don't know. I think who it's they've tried so many iterations.
Starting point is 02:08:03 Like it really is just about like there's no shortcut. The Deshaun thing was supposed to be a shortcut. You got to find a quarterback that really like when you see him play you're like you know that's him. Right. like there's no there's no polarizing online argument because he's fucking obviously him you know like that's what it's going to take and this ain't the year you're going to find somebody like that so maybe it's a bridgey type thing for them and they build that way um but i you know it's um you're pulling the sword from the stone man it's been decades so i don't know is it going to be
Starting point is 02:08:40 this year i don't know but they really are they're doing some good things like you know they really have done some good things from personnel standpoint. The one thing the Cardinal Sin was, hey, let me go get a quarterback who's taking a billion sacks more than fucking Andrew luck. And everybody's going to be like, hey, look at the civil cases, which probably should have been a disqualifier. But on top of it, this guy had fucking, he's got so much tread taking off his tires.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Like he was really shot physically and mentally by the end of it. And then you're just dealing with the, you know, the bullshit that comes with making a decision like that for years. So, anyways. Okay. You want to get lost? Let's get. Oh, I get lost? You get lost.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Fuck yeah, I'd love to get lost. Who am I talking about in the triangle today? You're giving a Kyle Long little shout out, Chiefs and Raiders. And you're talking about that unfortunate win for the Giants against the Cowboys that moved them down to the fifth draft deck. Oh, my God. Golly day. The Bermuda Triangle, where football games disappear. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I don't know, Jim. This one might disappear. I had to hit the blinker. Welcome to the triangle, everybody. You know, I hope my parents are proud of me because I'm broadcasting from the Bermuda Triangle and my brother did his first NFL game yesterday. This is a big juxtaposition.
Starting point is 02:10:14 But Kyle, we're all proud of you. Kyle used to sit right here in these chairs, man. He used to be one of the gang, but he was like, you know what? He used to be, he was like, fuck you guys, man. I got bigger and better things on the horizon. Kyle Long, CBS. I've heard him call some college games. I think he's electric.
Starting point is 02:10:34 I think he's basically what would happen if John Madden and John Gruden had a baby and just fed it all the food in the house for 35 years. Kyle Long. And Kyle Long went out there yesterday and absolutely him and his crew carried that awful football game that at one point, I think it was eight field goals and a safety in Vegas. The only people watching the game were degenerates and family members of Kyle Long. And there's a perfect bend diagram circle when it comes to me. So I was hanging on every word and my dog did a great job. It reminded me of the motion picture gladiator. when they were like Russell Crow, get out here.
Starting point is 02:11:19 You're just going to die anyways. This is Vegas and Kansas City. You're going to have a score of Gami on your hands. It was 11 to 9 at one point in the game. And you've got to make this motherfucker interesting. And you know how I always say when somebody calls a game and it becomes a blowout? It's kind of hard because it's like a podcast at that point. Like people are just bullshit.
Starting point is 02:11:43 But it's even harder when the game. game still good, but it's bad, right? Like it was close and it was bad. And he did a great job. He called, first off, he nailed the Kingsley Suamataia pronunciation. And then he said that he was thicker than aquarium glass, which is great. So he had a couple like one-liners. He also recovered real well from any tough situations.
Starting point is 02:12:10 You know, like it's just not easy calling a game. you have your big sheet you have people in your ear you've got you know the play by play guy the whole thing um and he aced it and i was just so proud of him it's crazy to me you know being a big brother and watching your your little brother like do things you know like you know playing national football league go to pro bowl's like you know this was as crazy as seeing him play football because i'm like this is the deep end dude yeah he was six foot seven three hundred thirty five pounds with abs so like the fact that he played in the NFL was never a shock to me. I don't care if it took him one year of Juko and one year at Oregon.
Starting point is 02:12:48 I was always like he's destined for greatness on the field. But to think that like my brother, and none of us were A students, right, could sit up there and hold court and carry an NFL broadcast for 60 minutes. A football game like that, this was a proud moment for my family. So shout out to Kyle, dude. Shout out. Let's go. Chris, I want to say real quick.
Starting point is 02:13:11 See the green light tree. Can we claim him as a green light tree? Yeah. Yeah. This is very good. He's the first branch of the green light tree. Broadcasting factory. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Seriously. Get going, guys. What the fuck's going on? Bo, Bo wanted to say something. I'll relay to you. Yeah, relay what he said.
Starting point is 02:13:30 Real quick, I just want to say, you know, when you're talking about Kyle and how far he's come and everything that goes on behind the scenes for being a broadcaster,
Starting point is 02:13:37 I did the NFL broadcast and media boot camp with Kyle and we were kind of like attached to the hip all week. So it was pretty fucking cool to see him and actually call a game less than a year later and applying some of those
Starting point is 02:13:48 those coaching points that we learn and stuff like that and it is not easy. So he fucking crushed it, man. Bo said he did the broadcast boot camp with Kyle and it was great to see him. They were attached to the hip all week. It's like Joe Hittani situation. He talked for like 35 minutes
Starting point is 02:14:05 and you just said like one word. And that was it. He said it was sick to see him do well. Origato. So, you know, I, no, it was sick. And I'm super proud of them. And I did text him during the fucking thing, like an annoying person. Like one of the texts, I won't tell you all of them, but one of the texts was like,
Starting point is 02:14:29 his very big brother, it was a half time. It was like, make sure you hydrate. Like drink enough water. Shit like that. Like, you know, I was like, you're doing great. You're doing great. You know, just trying to. But man, awesome.
Starting point is 02:14:41 Awesome. Good for Kyle, man. I can't believe I'm related to a fucking... It's harder for me to believe that I'm related to a guy who does games like that than it is to be like, my dad's been on NFL Fox for 30 years now. Like, it's harder for me to believe, like, my brother's calling games. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:00 You're doing it, bro. And then the other thing was you got to talk about the Giants and the Cowboys. Listen, Jackson Dart, good way to finish the seat. and didn't spend any time in the blue tent. Stap padded a little bit. The reports on him out of New York are like people really like him. The people in the facility think he's good. They think he's the future.
Starting point is 02:15:24 So, you know, if you're in New York, and I posed this question on a live stream yesterday, would you rather be New York's unknown, whoever the next coach is, next New York Giants coach, or Kevin O'Connell? Kevin O'Connell. You would? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:39 I'm shocked. Because Kevin O'Connell didn't have a question. quarterback. He didn't have a quarterback. He's got Justin Jefferson. And right now he's got B-Flow. But they got Malik neighbors. And B-Flow is out of there, bro. B-Flow ain't dealing with another year of that shit. He's not going to sit there and watch where they figure this shit out. Like, short of them going out and getting somebody in free agency, I think there's a feeling there that like, man, we don't really know what's going on, which is kind of a tough thing because you know how good the coach is and you know how good the roster's been. The Giants to me, there's some excitement.
Starting point is 02:16:10 you're bringing back. Scataboo, he's going to be healthy. Neighbors. A new coach, whoever it is, is going to have more leash and grace. And you might feel like you have a quarterback. To me, Dart looks better than McCarthy, and it's not, I mean, it's not like a mile wide gap,
Starting point is 02:16:29 but. There's a gap. Now, here's one thing that was tragic in this game. As a former pass rusher, who's talked about incentives. Jadavian Clowney needed eight and a half sacks or eight sacks or higher this year to make a million dollars okay he was sitting at five and a half before the game he had three sacks yesterday wow now the incentive if you read the fine print
Starting point is 02:16:53 involves Dallas making the playoffs uh which of course they didn't do so uh jadevian clowny i feel terrible for you dog um but he just continues to find ways to be productive late in his career he's NFL's favorite mercenary dude so we'll see where does Jada v. Clowny end up next year Wait but he knew that before the game though right? No I know but it just sucks. Yeah it does.
Starting point is 02:17:19 You know it's almost like he was trying to hit his incentive because to me Jadavian Clown is the type of guy that he's like I think I'll do it now you know like you know that's always kind of been the way he is I decide to do it now and I'm like I wonder if somebody
Starting point is 02:17:35 didn't tell him before the game they're like no you have to make the playoffs so that was the triangle there wasn't much to report today we covered most of the league we will be back
Starting point is 02:17:46 probably next year yeah yeah because there's no more triangle anymore you know which is kind of a sad deal I think I want to stay here for a second
Starting point is 02:17:55 the monos silence for the triangle should put all the hey shut the fuck up please show some respect golly dude it's a bunch of shit
Starting point is 02:18:08 down here. I would just say we should put all the fire coaches in the in the good shipping crew was bound to be chewed. Some white. When the gales of November came early. What was it? A three hour tour? No, that's,
Starting point is 02:18:23 that's, so that's Gilligan's Island. Which is not as much of a banger as the Edmund Fitzgerald, which is one of the best songs ever. Do you know Edmund Fitzgerald? I do not. Don't see it right now. Bro, we're going to play that.
Starting point is 02:18:34 I'm going to play that song so loud at the end of this, at the end of this show. we're just going to sit here and listen to that song. You know how many times you've done that to me? You don't know this. It's just a- No, I don't mean to be like that. No, I get it.
Starting point is 02:18:46 But you do that to me too. You do that to me too. You're like, no. Bro, you haven't heard like little... Yeah, you'll do it with TikTok stuff. Yeah, like, I'm like, how the fuck am I supposed to know, like, what's going on on TikTok, bro? But Edmund Fitzgerald, the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald,
Starting point is 02:19:02 it's a song by Gordon Lightfoot, wasn't even supposed to really be on the album. It's a song about, one of the biggest shipwrecks in the Great Lakes. Okay? This Lake Superior shipwreck, Edmund Fitzgerald, the fucking waves were so big, the swells were so big. It's like a multiple hundred foot boat, right?
Starting point is 02:19:23 It's like a huge boat. This freighter. Yeah. Look at this boat. The fucking nose of the boat, the swells are so big. I guess like either the back of the boat or the front of the boat, the, what is it, bow? Or stern? Stern, not a mariner.
Starting point is 02:19:38 because i don't want to end up like those guys hit the bottom of the fucking lake on one of the swells and and bing yeah it's 7 p.m the main hatchway gave in this is what they said in the song 7 p.m the main hatchway gave in he said fellas has been nice to know you it's over bro it was over it nobody made it out nobody made it no if they'd have put a few more miles behind them they'd have they'd probably made white fish bay some people survived the titanic right yeah for sure but this was much rougher seas than the Titanic. They just hit an iceberg on a nice calm night. Yeah, and it was cold, so people froze in that type of show.
Starting point is 02:20:17 But Edmund Fitzgerald. Gales of November came early. Yeah, dude, it was crazy. So you don't want to be out. The Great Lakes can be like oceans. All right, so I figure we'd talk about shipwreck. We should go on a shipwreck tour this off season. Honestly, there was like a, yeah, I would love that.
Starting point is 02:20:38 You know what I need? I need whatchic call to explain that to me. He probably could do it. What person? Oh, Mack Hollins. Oh, Mac Hollins? Yeah, he's going on videos. We should request one.
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Starting point is 02:22:27 Nolan Tanner uh names Max calling from sleepy western Washington state Quiet as kept I'm a hawks fan I haven't called in all year I just want to throw this out of there Best seat Probably my pouch
Starting point is 02:22:41 while I watch all of these fanatics sweat these seating scenarios out while we're sitting pretty probably got something on the stove and a beer in my hand but I'm a real huge fan of show I've been tailing your backdoor cover pot all year and I'm up like
Starting point is 02:22:57 16 units been a been a great year as a CS fan and a responsible gambler shout out I like that guy fucking go 16 units so so good oh did you hear that though if I'm up 16 units. Did you hear that? If I started with $1, I have $16. Yes, most people, they might
Starting point is 02:23:19 their unit might be 50. No, no, no. No, no. You know. Yeah. So. Hailing you. That's what's up. Yes, dude. There's a whole side of me that you don't know. That's why earlier when you're like, do you need help picking games? I'm like, brother, this is like one of the things I'm best at. Yeah. In life. Honestly, I mean, like, you think about things that I'm good for anymore? Like, this is one. one of them. There's not a lot.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Kayaking, I'm pretty good at that. You know? We're damn near an investment firm here. Gambling, giving out winners, I'm pretty good at that. The combined 29 games over 500 between you, Makein and Steve. I can't think of another thing that I'm much better at
Starting point is 02:24:01 anymore. You're a great friend, Chris. Thank you, Bo. All right. Our next calla, ring ring. This is Will from Philadelphia again. Just a couple. Chris, you probably have the best hat game I've ever seen.
Starting point is 02:24:19 Thank you, bro. You know, I actually bought the Yipikaya hat that you wear all right. Zumi's had to buy one, get one to free, so I decided to pull the trigger on that. Cowboys, that's a top care mustache, man. Come on, we love it. Megan, you kind of look like my dad. If you was clean-shaven, I don't know if that's an insult or not, but... I'll tell them.
Starting point is 02:24:37 Yeah. And, uh, facts, does anybody know if he actually has eyeballs? I've been watching the show for at least three years now, and I've never once seen the wipes of his eyes. Bo, I follow you on Instagram. The fifth are always tripping, man. Love it. Giving me some inspiration.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Started busting out overalls more recently. Yeah, it's a good choice. Hell yeah, brother. But I do have a question. So, Bo, I know you had your, like, what, one of your two and a half career sacks against the, what, the Chargers in 2017, right? I remember that.
Starting point is 02:25:11 Chris, you had a... strip sack in that game too. Remember that? In fact, I know your only sack was Drew Breazzo, though, which is impressive. He had a touchdown, too.
Starting point is 02:25:21 Give me the favorite play that you ever made in the NFL and college. I just want to know it. Favorite play? Favorite play? NFL and college. NFL or college. It could be a big play.
Starting point is 02:25:34 It could be something that you're just impressed. You were able to pull off. Funny stories, something like that. I want to hear it. Love the pod. Love all the content. Thank you guys, appreciate you. I have two from college.
Starting point is 02:25:47 One of them was I got a sack on Tyrod Taylor playing against Virginia Tech, and it was like a bootleg, a plane end, kind of guessing. You know, when you guess, and you guess right. It never happens to me. But he still almost got away. It was one of those things Tyrod. obviously is slippery quarterback yeah but I ended up getting that sack like with my finger last second pulling them down so that felt good and then pick six against Maryland oh I remember that
Starting point is 02:26:24 I was in a bar in Providence Rhode Island getting ready to play the Patriots not drinking before the game yeah but I was so fucking cold wet there was no place to watch the game I wanted to see you guys play yeah it was cold and wet and just a weird situation where I ended up with a That was sick, dude In my hand Watching you scoot Just fucking running to the pile on And no one
Starting point is 02:26:49 Luckily no one Catching me And scoring a touchdown That was sick Those were mine Bo Bo I got a good one
Starting point is 02:27:00 This was Shit man What year was this 2019 I think My last year with the bucks Played a really good game Against the Falcons Clean stat sheet
Starting point is 02:27:11 No stats like graded out 100% in the um you know in the film room like our coach was a pretty big stickler for you know technique grades and stuff like that but i'm just dying for some sort of assisted tackle i'm eating like duo blocks all fucking game i'm on field goal it's i think it's a it's a p a t and i'm the block side wing so i'm the right wing go out fucking just eat two dudes directly down the middle of my chest. Here that the extra point gets blocked.
Starting point is 02:27:48 I turn around and I fucking haul ass and I had to make the tackle on like the opposite like 15 yard line to save two points. It was my only stat that I registered that game. That's awesome. And it didn't even count because it was an extra point. So I had a clean
Starting point is 02:28:04 statute. Oh no, but the speed, bro. I got up to I got up to 17.9 pads, which I feel pretty good about being 340. Man, I'm not going to sit here and like, in like pick one. I just, honestly, my favorite sack might be my last sack because we were in the playoffs against New Orleans and we lost that game.
Starting point is 02:28:27 But I always wanted to go out playing at a high level. And I played pretty fucking well that game. Like, I felt like I played really well and I felt like I was still a problem. And when I look back at that tape, I'm like, damn, you were dogging. I was dogging ram check a little bit. I think he'd tell you that. So I think, like, he was a good player. So, yeah, for me, it would probably be my last game.
Starting point is 02:28:46 It's kind of weird answer, but, you know, when you look back of your career, you just want to finish strong. Hell yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, boys. Hell yeah. Good mems. Good mems.
Starting point is 02:28:57 Going down memory lane. Oh, that's, that block, that, uh, saving tackle was big because it kept it a, uh, a two point game to end it. You guys won 2415, but if they had scored that, yeah, they got a special teams game ball for that which is hilarious. All right. So we got to go to mentions now, don't we? Wrapping it up with mentions.
Starting point is 02:29:21 Let's wrap it up with mentions. Right after we hear from BetMGMGM is it. BetMGM is it. We've been moving so fast today, you know. We might be out of here and what time do we start? 345. We're only two and a half in. It's playoffs.
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Starting point is 02:30:34 Well, let's pick best flight first. Nolan? Passes versus jets this season. Tanner? They all landed. Yeah, that was crazy. I'm going with a pass-vers-jets too It's your anonymous
Starting point is 02:30:47 Chris the dub in best flight With all the passes versus the jets Worst flight Chris had Tyler Loop Beau said himself Nate said Nicholas Maduro I think Nate wins Yeah he's got to give us in Yeah let's yeah yeah Nate the dub
Starting point is 02:31:06 All right and then we are doing Why is the White House tweeting like a bunch of the The spoiled white kids I saw at the pool on vacation. Like, honestly, what are we doing, dog? Okay, I don't want to get picked up in an airplane. All right, next. Bevel Conway. Bevel Conway, guys.
Starting point is 02:31:31 It doesn't get any better than Bill's Jets yesterday. I just, let's mandate that to be the matchup. Can you throw it up on the screen? I know we can do a still show. throw it up on the screen um it it's this is perfect this is like this it doesn't get any better than that i mean look at that the red helmets just stay stay there dude there's no need to to get fancy with red jerseys there's no you know read i don't know what's wrong with your internet bro but a picture's worth a thousand words
Starting point is 02:32:06 there we go new york post just throw that motherfucker up there right there look at of that that looks like 96 that looks like when I was a child and that that's the way it's supposed to look those are both teams a plus it was easy to look at the Denver and Chargers game be like oh that's beautiful but the charges have the yellow pants but we don't see this enough right you know the bills need to stay here bro what were they waiting i know you don't love the bills necessarily Nate and this week you plan on bludgeoning them but do you look at this uniform and say hey that's the best one they got yeah I'm kind of off on the red helmet.
Starting point is 02:32:48 Wow. That's the whole thing. I'm with you, Fad. Wow. I don't know why, but I think everything else, yeah. What? Maybe if the jerseys were red, I would like it more. It's the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:33:00 I guess. Red helmet. Maybe. There's a reason they haven't been wearing it. Yeah, I don't know. They need to say both these teams need to stay here. So that's my Bevel Conway. Bo, Bevel Conway.
Starting point is 02:33:13 That's a good one, Chris. I'm with you on that. I'm going to go with the San Fran Blacks. Oh, what? I kind of bust them out of it. Yeah. I kind of like them. I didn't like, it's just something different, you know?
Starting point is 02:33:25 I don't know. I didn't have a good one. I didn't want to say the Kelly Green again. They look good in person. If you said the San Fran Blacks, fucking chalked this one up as now. It's just the most selfish decision by a football team you can make because, like, it's impossible to match. Like, it's going to make the game look bad. It looks cool, like, in a picture.
Starting point is 02:33:45 And honestly, the numbers are fucking lit, but like, ah, man, I don't know. You got to go black on black. That's all you got. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Beville Conway. Trevor Lawrence with the real iced out grilling, the most beautiful. I don't think you're going to win.
Starting point is 02:34:08 The most beautiful pitcher in football. Trevor getting the real grills after the game is absolutely great. after all the AI pictures of him going viral, were in a grill and chain, and they actually got him a real one, so fire. Yes. So fire. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Taking over QB1 of the league. All right, my vote is. Nobody bit. Everybody was just like, next. My vote's bills jets. I didn't have a game or an eye on this game live, but when I highlight came across my desk, I gasped.
Starting point is 02:34:46 Unbelievable. Beautiful. I'm not a fan of the Bill's Jets, so I'll go with the grill. I like the grill. Good to throw there. Good to throw a vote that way, but it is, it is Bill's Jets. Sorry, I tried about best, Nate. Just too many old people in here.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Anti-Belvo Conway. Easy, 49ers. That fucking helmet was, that gold face mask with a black helmet is absolutely disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting. if given the choice would you wear these or the saints fucked up gold ones oh the wake forest yeah with the gradient helmet yeah if you had to pick i'd probably wear the the blacks yeah like that's that's where i'd tear these right yeah yeah and i don't think the jersey's that bad i really just think it's that face mask like the face mask being gold i don't like i don't like i don't
Starting point is 02:35:48 know why, but I think it just looked so much different if that face mask was just, even I feel like even if the face mask was maybe red, if you're not just going to do black, it maybe looks better, but some reason that that gold doesn't look good to me. Okay. I'm going to give you my anti-bevel. Is that what I'm doing? That's what you're doing. Can you pull up the Liberty Bowl, please? Yes. Tough watch. Easy win. You always bet the servicemen in the bowl games. They don't part take, their discipline, they're fucking, their armed forces, man.
Starting point is 02:36:24 They're going to be ready for a bowl game. But pull it up. That's a cool looking picture of it. Can somebody pull up the game? That's, it's hideous. This is hideous. You get the AutoZone fucking logo,
Starting point is 02:36:37 which is always an eyesore. It's like, I don't want to think about buying black ice trees. Rain did not help in this one. This is an ugly bowl game. This is hideous. This is hideous. I don't know if I'm going to win, but I just had to speak my truth.
Starting point is 02:36:53 You guys love hands. Red handpants on it. This is awful. What teams are playing here? This is Navy. I know, Cincinnati, but it's hard to tell. I just thought it was hideous, man. It's a hideous field.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Yeah, it's not good, is it? Not to say I don't like the Navy. Someons are rough. Mormons and service people. Those are the guys you bet in the bowls, because the Mormons don't partake. you know what I'm saying they're here for the football yep Navy I bet them so big bow my anti-bevels there's this photo circulating of John Schneider in the box
Starting point is 02:37:34 watching the Seahawks game he was absolutely pitted the fuck out dude like he had his arms raised up oh my god massive sweat stain yeah he was sweat out that's a that game that's a tough look for anybody, man. He was sweating that one out. Man, you can sweat out of your tities if you get a roster like that. You just sweat out of your nipples and it wouldn't matter, dude. You might be executive of the year.
Starting point is 02:38:03 Oof. That's my pick. Yeah, that's our bebble. Same for me. Bad deal. I've been there before that sucks, man. I know. You get Botox on your armpits, man. That's a great call, Bub, and I'm giving a native out there. I think the Niners were awful.
Starting point is 02:38:19 Yeah. Awful. Oh, is that a split? No, no, no. Oh. Yeah. Bo got the dub. So, yeah, I didn't deserve it.
Starting point is 02:38:28 Through four, Chris with two, Bo and Nate both on the board with one. Okay. Best seat. Best seat. Best seat for me is going to Keenan Allen, sitting on the bench in the fourth quarter, with a million dollars in his fucking pocket.
Starting point is 02:38:46 He had to run like 10 yards. to pick up six catches or whatever it was dude and he deserves every bit of it he's an awesome player never heard a bad thing being said about the dude i remember when he was a prospective rookie in earth city missouri getting a pop tart or something i was in the players lounge which was smaller in this fucking room right here dude and uh and thank god he averted that crisis i mean he could have rotted away in st louis with the rest of us He was one of those rookies that he was really nice. I remember him meeting him at the facility and just what a great career.
Starting point is 02:39:23 He's had to pick up a mill. Good for him, dude. And sit on the bench at the fourth quarter. When you're finally out of the game, whether it's preseason or the end of the game, bro, it's a great feeling. Amelie, Amelie, Amelie, Nate? Best seat, D.K. Metcalf, seeing that he would at least get one more game this season after being suspended for the last two. And he gets to play that last game, rested. two weeks of rest, ready to go.
Starting point is 02:39:53 I just feel like him watching that game, just not knowing like, damn, is my season going to end because of this stupid-ass interaction with this fan? And just leaving probably a bad taste in your mouth, bad taste in the organization's mouth, probably even though they didn't choose to do all the option things of taking away his chance to make all that money,
Starting point is 02:40:17 which was good. but you just never know how that boulds over if you do lose this game and you go into the offseason. So he has a chance to get back out there. I feel like that's my best seat. Just him watching that game. Hell yeah, he was probably sitting there watching that kick. Oh, like they really missed it? I can't believe it.
Starting point is 02:40:36 He was standing next to his TV with the fan. Yeah, he was like, yeah, yeah, no question. Maybe one day they'll get together like James Harrison and that guy that Harrison slammed on the turf. that's funny bow saw this i thought this was pretty cool um i saw a photo of miles garrett's dad at the game with a giant camera in his lap just anticipating his son breaking the record i just thought that was really cool chris you mentioned uh you know getting to know miles and his family a little bit probably such a cool thing to experience as a father watch your son break one of the you know what's the biggest records for your position with this giant camera and just being kind of
Starting point is 02:41:18 ready to capture that moment i thought that was there's something really fatherly about that that i liked and i think that's probably a good seat man sitting there just watching that all unfold with a big camera to capture the memories it's fucking awesome holy shit yeah that's sick size of that camera that's a big one sitting on a suitcase it looks like it yeah that's camera bag that's awesome hell yeah dude all right tanner your vote uh i'm i'm going with with the big old camera. I was good. It's dad.
Starting point is 02:41:50 Really wholesome. Nolan? I second that. Very cool. And it is thirded and unanimous. Look at that, Bo. You tied to the top. Oh, Bo.
Starting point is 02:42:00 Oh, yeah, brother. Worst seed. I'm going to go the Giants front office watching what Nate said earlier in the group chat. I was like, man, when I heard him say that, Russell Wilson was like, yeah, I've had a great two hamstrings since week, too. I was like, holy parting shot. Seriously. Here comes an investigation. It has to be, right?
Starting point is 02:42:23 Worst seat, you know. It's watching Russ throw you guys under the bus on the way out. That's going to be a little pain in the ass. 450 yards and three touchdowns in the game that he tore his hamstring. Wild. Just do that more often. That was bawled out. You guys, that wasn't funny.
Starting point is 02:42:43 I'm serious. He bawled out. Nate? Worst seed. Hmm. I'm going to give it to to sauce, who left a one in seven team
Starting point is 02:42:59 only to join the Colts and to go one in seven since he's joined the Colts. What a crazy turnaround for him personally. Yeah. Thinking you were leaving the Jets and leaving that terrible.
Starting point is 02:43:16 That was a terrible city. leave a terrible situation but the hopes and the everything around him get into indy was like this is the last second end of year borsi this is pretty yes it's not good and the whole year's been bad and then yeah then you get there you're not really that healthy you're not really that healthy getting there yeah and you get hurt again and you live in indiana and now you're in indiana welcome to indiana At least in the Jets, you had ice spice close to you. Yep. No more ice spice.
Starting point is 02:43:51 I don't know if it's no more, but Indies just is a bit. They call it Nap City. Nap Town. Yep. But yeah, I would say Worcet is just sauce at the end of this year, just reflecting on his season. Two parts of his season. That's not good. Bo?
Starting point is 02:44:13 Worcete. Imagine that you are, you know, you're a wide receiver for the Houston Texans. You're a playoff bound. You're probably pretty excited. Celebrate the New Year's Eve. Then you wake up on New Year's Day and you see all these videos surfacing on social media of Tom Brady. Flirting with your ex-girlfriend Alex Earl. Your name is Braxton Barrios.
Starting point is 02:44:42 And you're a renowned Tom Brady fan. That's a tough. renowned tom brady fan yeah i saw a bunch of clips of him like fawning over brady and and talking about how good tom brady is and yeah that's a tough sweet to wake up to see your you know incredibly popular social media superstar girlfriend is that her rubbing his back yeah that's her rubbing his back i mean it just reinforces if it's not you it's somebody else and that somebody can be tom brady dude and i guess that's better than her being with like Like, imagine it was like a homeless guy.
Starting point is 02:45:17 You know? If he's a real fan. A little spin zone. You know? At least he's a hall of fame. Yeah. I guess. It could be, it could be, you know.
Starting point is 02:45:30 I feel like you always want your ex-a-downgrade, though. You'd be Kevin Kopp, you know? No. Oh, shit. It's kind of good. You love me for the homeless guy. Like, shit. Barrios could be like I'm fucking Eskimo bros.
Starting point is 02:45:44 With. With Tom Brady, bro. No big deal. Let me see what Bridget Monaghan's up to or something, man. Like, it's Tom Brady. Tom Brady, like, you know. You see what Giselle's doing. Pregnant.
Starting point is 02:45:59 What is he talking about? Oh, shit. No. Man, hey, Tom. Hey, you know, and then you like DM Tommy. You're like, just so you know. I'm okay with that. You're fine. You have permission. We're good. We're good, bro. We're good, big bro. Yeah. Worst seat. First vote is going to the Giants front office. Daner? I'll go sauce.
Starting point is 02:46:30 Yeah, I'm actually going to get a sauce too. You could actually argue sauce is in terms of the team outlook. He's actually way worse positioned over the next couple years, too now. Oh, he's in trouble. Like, yeah. The Jets all those picks, you know? Yeah. Brutal. Man. Uh, hollow man. Nate. Hollow! You got to give it to your man's, right? Who's our mans?
Starting point is 02:46:56 The Ravens kicker. Tyler Loop. Loop. Tyler whoop? He's about to be out of the loop for a little while. Mr. Loop. That's interesting. I think he will be out of the loop.
Starting point is 02:47:10 Tyler whoop. Thoughts and prayers for that guy. Bo? God damn. I'd love to go first one these times, Cabo you're coming. You know what? Let's go with, we'll go with Alec Pierce, man. I don't know if you guys saw that clip.
Starting point is 02:47:27 He got ejected from the game. I kind of thought that was a pretty weak fucking call, man. I understand that you can't make contact with the raft. He didn't really even. I didn't think there was a lot of contact there, but it's just a tough way. He approached him, though. I mean, when you approach a guy to argue, then if you bump into him. Yeah, I feel like that's pretty too.
Starting point is 02:47:46 Who was it? There's a different player this year that got ejected for the same thing, and it was, I think, a lot more blatant. It's funny because I thought it was kind of... Like, you lose a game check, too. I thought it was kind of bullshit when he said, when Pooka Nekuah said what he said on the stream about the refs. But some of the calls and some of the things that's happening since he said that, you kind of look at it like, maybe some of these refs do want some intention.
Starting point is 02:48:13 because as much as I want to troll like Alex Spears is just like that's kind of crazy to get kicked out of a game for. I get it. Like you bump them, like you approach them. But that's kind of, uh, I don't know. Good season for Alec Pierce though, 47 catches, 1,000 yards. Yeah, he had a thousand yards, man. It felt like I thought I saw some of those the fewest catches. A thousand yards, but he probably lost that whole game check, right?
Starting point is 02:48:40 He's probably going to lose that game check now, right? For sure. Yeah. Yes. That's not cool. No, it's not cool at all. That's not cool. You're going to keep your hands to yourself.
Starting point is 02:48:49 You can't be a goon. Yeah, you know, it's going to be hard to beat Tyler Loop, you know. But I'll give you somebody who's dead. Bridget Bardot, 1960s, sultry sex symbol turned militant animal rights activist, dies at 91. She was also a far-right supporter. and she died December 28th, so she just missed us becoming a rogue nation
Starting point is 02:49:17 and she's not with us anymore. I don't have anybody that can beat Tyler Loop. So if you remember Bridget from the 60s, yeah, she's no longer with us. Yeah, pretty hollow. Hollow Bridget. Tanner, your vote? Go on Bridget.
Starting point is 02:49:39 Nolan? Tyler Luke. Tyler Loop. Tyler whoop? That's crazy. That's actually better being Bridget Bardot than Tyler Loop. Yeah. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 02:49:52 Well, they're saying. No one knows. No one who the hell Bridget Bardot is. You don't? Well, I guess I should. I didn't. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 02:50:01 I don't either. Not a chance. STL Memorial. Hey, Bo, do you want to kick this one off? Rest in peace. Bridget Bardot. I would love to. My Estill.
Starting point is 02:50:10 Bridget Bardot. Yeah. Rigid bad, yeah, she's all right. Oh, S-Tale Memorial. Gotta give it to Kyle Long. I mean, we talked about this for a while. Chris put that in the Bermuda Triangle.
Starting point is 02:50:22 No one fucking watch that game. Chris said, or Kyle did an excellent job, though. I'm giving him my S-T-L Memorial. Good shit. Kay Long. St.L Memorial. Nate. I'm going to use my own brother.
Starting point is 02:50:35 STL Memorial. I don't know if this has been done before, but I'm giving this person to, mentions today is going to Josh. It has been done by you. Has it? Josh Johnson. Just because I just want to rub it into the Eagles fans
Starting point is 02:50:51 a little bit more that you guys lost to Josh Johnson. I just want to throw that in there. Before the playoffs, good luck this weekend, guys. I don't think that's been done. I think you did run a Parker Washington game ball on back-to-back weeks, though. He deserved it.
Starting point is 02:51:08 Mr. Washington for you guys. He deserved that shit. He went crazy this weekend, too. You got to deal with Parker Washington. You just made me think about the game again. God damn, the bills. Oh, Keon Coleman.
Starting point is 02:51:25 Keogne Coleman wished he was half of Parker Washington, boy. Boy, boy, boy, the bills. This is going to be so funny either way. All right. So, STL Memorial? Yep. D. Alford.
Starting point is 02:51:43 biggest play that swung the only real game that mattered yesterday from a standpoint of in or out new Orleans and Atlanta D jumped a slant and uh you know shuck had been he'd been close to throwing that ball earlier in the game and they are driving with a chance to win and I really do think I'm not saying the bucks could win a playoff game but had they gotten in I think I think teams would rather see Carolina than Tampa in a weird way. So I do think that was a huge play as far as like what we're talking about this week in the playoffs. That was a backbreaker. I just had to imagine, you know, worst seat, we probably should have put the bucks sitting at home, like watching those games. I mean, people were sitting on his fucking kitchen counter looking
Starting point is 02:52:36 just like, like just crushed, helpless. That would take all the air out of it. And then the worst part was like they had to go down and score to cover. Right. But then you had to sit through an onside kick and hope for an onside kick. It's just. I wish that week 18 there were like team watches and you had the camera in the room like they'd do for March Madness when they announced like, hey, you got in or got out. Because the Panthers, like a camera on the Panthers team watch would be tremendous.
Starting point is 02:53:07 Like that pick, that I remember you reacting that pick. We saw, I think it was last night they showed the video of the Ravens, reacting to the Browns last week and win. Harbaugh in the back of the room, running. Yeah, running all the way to the front. Just to get an opportunity to lose that heartbreaker that you're never going to forget in your life. Right.
Starting point is 02:53:24 Never. Unbelievable. Nolan? Kyle Long. Tanner? Kyle long. Ooh. That's some dirty shit, Bo.
Starting point is 02:53:34 Got some dirty shit. You got to do what you got to do, brother. You did a fucking disabled astronaut the other day, you know? Not an astronaut. by trade that was what made it so cool i mean she she got an opportunity to go up into space anyways i think that makes you an astronaut i think you remember that um game ball game ball game ball oh you want to go again sure fuck it um i'm gonna give the sam donald i think he's the first uh quarterback to have back to back 14 win seasons obviously pretty epic collapse for him last
Starting point is 02:54:11 season but I'm rooting for him in the playoffs excited about the Seahawks one of the few people that picked them to win the NFC West so you know got to give it to Sam Darnold hoping that he he plays well here through the playoffs second quarterback to have back-to-back 14 win seasons he was behind Alex Earl's boyfriend who did that oh but but first quarterback or no no current current boyfriend yeah very oh got I got it But first quarterback to have back-to-back 14 win seasons on two different teams. That's what it was. Yep.
Starting point is 02:54:47 Yeah, pretty impressive. Chris? Game ball. That's an interesting thing to talk about because there's so many game balls that I could give out right now. So let me just think about it for a second. I would say game ball probably goes to Mike Tomlin because that was, as I said, was a Mike Tomlin spot. It just was a quintessential Mike Tomlin spot. We should have seen it from 10 miles away. It doesn't matter how fucking bad the, you know, the Raven should have won that game.
Starting point is 02:55:28 It's not important. Look at him, blowing a kiss, beating his chest. He was hyping people up on the sideline. I wanted to give the game ball to Rogers, honestly, the way he played. But this was just a Omlin kind of win. He had that team scratching and clawing. Does it make him the guy for the future? I don't know. Do you want him to be a part of the ownership group? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:55:49 But last night, he was a ball coach, and it was awesome. Night. Game ball. I'm giving it to my coach, Liam Cohen, because they're going to jerk them and not give him the coach for the year. So I'm going to give you a game ball here, Liam. I think what you did this year was extraordinary, taking a... We've got the best quarterback in football.
Starting point is 02:56:14 Taking a four-win team to how many wins do we have now? Lost count. 13-12? Like, godly. He's moved himself up. It's crazy to think that he's like fifth all-time on the Jags. Golly, what? On the Jags win list.
Starting point is 02:56:33 It's just crazy what he did this year. And the year isn't over yet. So game ball. And hey, guys like- The Jags are. And listen, guys like Chris Long, they don't like the, they don't, he doesn't like the way you're rallying the troops right now. That's not it. Everyone against us the mentality, but keep it up because we're going to ride that to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:56:57 It's more the fans. It's more the fans. It's like, bro, like act like there wasn't a bunch of reasons that people didn't believe. But I'm not like that. I'm welcome to you guys. Come on. You're right. You are just the quintessential, even keeled realistic fan.
Starting point is 02:57:12 Yo, come on. Leave the Jacks fan. You guys definitely, I will much rather you guys root with me, with the Jags, than all the disrespect that I had to do. That ship has sailed.
Starting point is 02:57:24 But you don't take disrespect. You really don't. Oh, man. Maybe like. Back and we listen to some of the stuff you say. I know, but like you really, here's the thing.
Starting point is 02:57:34 Like, you want people to believe before it's time to believe. The only reason you believed is because it was your favorite team. You know, it wasn't a brain move by you. It was a heart.
Starting point is 02:57:42 move which I totally get I believed in the in the pets you did believe in the pets you also believed in the Browns last year it's a mixed bag and the Raiders believed in the Raiders to win the West I mean we all make we make it we miss I make and miss all the time I'm a year old wait I'm a year early on the Raiders we'll revisit you might be early on the Raiders wait till we get what signetti's boy fuck dude I had the Bengals went in the north you know I had the bucks went in the south had the bucks going all the fucking way dude so It's just not even, like, preseason shit doesn't matter. And, you know, but you were right about the Jags.
Starting point is 02:58:18 They're just a fucking wagon. They're a wagon, Nate. Happy for the Jags. They're a wagon. You'd hate to see the wagon, you know, topple over, maybe go over a rock or you'd hate to see. Or fall through a team. I had to see that wagon running a big herd. Nobody circles a wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 02:58:40 I can't wait for this. weekend. Poor Braxton Perrios, man. Honestly, he's single, isn't he? Fucking winter, winter chicken dinner, dude. Enjoy. All right. Hold on. We got to decide who wins this. Nate and Bo are sitting tied at three. Chris has two. We could end the regular season moments, BenMGM moments with a tie across the board, or Nate or Bo could take this one home. Nolan? Mike Tomlin.
Starting point is 02:59:18 Tanner? Reed, I want you to go. I'm going to go Mike Tomlin. Fuck. I was going to go Liam Con. Nice. We end it with a tie, a three-way tie. Oh, so how do we do this? We need a tiebreaker.
Starting point is 02:59:31 Oh, tiebreaker. I got another hollow bag. Trivia. Trivia? Trivia. Trivia. General knowledge trivia. Yeah, I'll do that.
Starting point is 02:59:43 would you say closest to the pen what's the loser of this competition after do walk home no i'm joking i live a little ways away from here i'm sick no fuck there's i'm uh man i had a yeah there's a chat there you are right brachson barrios career receiving yards holy smoke oh barrio's career receiving yards wait how many years has he plays you don't get that Can't tell you that? Can't tell me that? I'll give you a year.
Starting point is 03:00:20 So he's... He's played... No, don't do that. You don't know yours? Don't give me years. Okay. Career receiving yards. Career.
Starting point is 03:00:33 I'm going to say... Just receiving yards. Is it over? Is it prices right rules or what's going on here? No, no prices. Clos is a pen. Close. Close to the pen.
Starting point is 03:00:44 $1,200. Bracton Barrios, receiving yards. I'm going to say... he's a snake false I don't know 839 yards man then I'll take just over bows
Starting point is 03:01:11 man I'll take bows I think it's like in my heart of hearts I think it's in the 1600s maybe 16176 but I'll go 13-0-1 what's your 13-01 you win 1,360 career receiving arts for brachshund Oh, well.
Starting point is 03:01:31 Bo, you would have been closest to the pin, but it really doesn't matter. This doesn't matter at all. We'll play again next week after the wildcard. We'll play again next week. We'll play again next week. No Monday night game tonight to preview. Oh, I can't wait for people. I cannot wait until it's over, to be honest.
Starting point is 03:01:49 And everybody does the, what am I going to do with no football on? Oh. I'm going to go to sleep tonight. I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want I'm going to watch a show What should I watch? What show should I watch? I got to go fucking climb a mountain with Reed
Starting point is 03:02:08 Dude I'm going to climb a mountain with Reed, dude Are we going to do the I don't think I'm ready, dude Are we going to do the draft? It's in Pittsburgh, it's close Yeah, what do we need to do for the mountain? I'm not ready to commit to the draft
Starting point is 03:02:22 What do we need to do for the mountain? You haven't started training it? No, well, I've been running it. but I feel like I need to do more. You haven't gotten your oxygen take? Oh, I fucked up my STL Memorial, dude. Yeah. Too late.
Starting point is 03:02:35 Save it for next. Oh. No, but I'm going to tell you what it was. I had the name of the priest that sprinkled holy water. Oh, that's a big STO. Oh, my God. That would have been. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:47 For sure. Kyle. Kyle. You ever heard of this guy? Kyle Long? What child would be. Watch. tonight. I've been what I want to watch for a
Starting point is 03:02:59 fluribus watch pluribus what's pluribus it's on Apple TV Apple TV yeah it's the new it's it I don't want to give too much away but it's basically about a give it away give it away give it away now it's an alien hive
Starting point is 03:03:15 mine that takes over the earth an American post apocalyptic science fiction television series created by Vince Gilligan breaking bad breaking bad bangers somebody asking what he was doing with that last season. Have you seen,
Starting point is 03:03:30 have you watched industry yet? No. Watch that. That's a good show. Hey, you know what was good and I never finished? Was the Seth Rogen show. Oh.
Starting point is 03:03:39 Oh, uh. Like Berenholtz. Yeah. Yeah. That is a good show. Studio. Studio. Studio.
Starting point is 03:03:45 Yeah. That's a great show. We just continue this offline, guys. Let people go home. Thanks for being here. We'll be back to preview these wildcard games later this week. Yeah, we will. Go Jags.

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