Green Light with Chris Long - Tate Frazier & NCAA March Madness! Tom Brady Un-Retires, Winners/Losers, Tatty Champs & Wheels vs Doors.

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

(2:26) - Hello, Layup Line Shuffle and Macon Pays Up Sunbelt Bet. (17:52) - Tom Brady Returns to NFL. (28:11) - Green Light Tatty Championship Challenge: Chris, Macon, Nate, Matt, Taylor, Ralph and Reid Receive their Tatty Teams for March Madness. (Our Best Idea Ever). (43:38) - Tate Frazier Talks to Chris and Macon about the NCAA Tournament, Players to Watch, Bracket Busters and Betting Favorites. (1:19:03) - Winners and Losers from the Week. (1:33:26) - Wheels vs Doors, Teeth vs Phalanges and Best Fast Food Fries. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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First, Makin pays off a sunbelt bet from a couple of shows ago. We're also going to talk about Tom Brady. And then everyone on the show receives their Tattie Championship team for March Madness. And speaking of March Madness, we've got Tate Fraser here to break it down for us. he's going to go through the players to watch, best matchups, teams that will play Cinderella, some betting favorites, and best picks for your bracket. After Tate, we finished with some winners and the losers of the week.

End a couple debate topics. Happy days, folks. Players hell to the chief. They bought getting at you, Lord. It ain't me. You name me. I ain't no senator's soul. Oh, no.

It ain't me. It ain't me. I ain't no fortunate one. Some folks bone, silver spoon in hand. Hell of themselves. I really have a heart issue. Thumbs to the door. That looks like a rummage sale.

How is that? It ain't me. Just, yeah. It ain't me. It ain't no millionaire son. No. it ain't me it ain't me

I ain't a fortunate one paid up yeah Sunbelt we bet on a game today the Sunbelt that's right everybody's glued to it

the Sunbelt tourney has started a couple teams were playing at 1230 I got it UT Arlington in Louisiana Lafayette right you said you liked UTA yeah

so I took the raging Cajuns minus three and a half yep and the stakes we came up with. Sunbelt tourney. So the stakes in the sunbelt tourney are. The loser of this bet and we don't know the result. It's 2.29 at time of tape. It's just about done. It's just about done. The loser is going to have to sing the entirety of a song at the end of our next pod. With the word sun and title. The sun's got a, the word sun's got to be in the title. What are you going to do if you lose? I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You tell me what you're

going to do. I don't know. Probably like walking on sunshine. We should do that more often. Honestly, like the loss of a bet around here should more often end in somebody singing a song. Because that was the, that's like the good part of American Idol. Not when they're good. I like the bad parts. I got to say, I hope we don't use that one. I feel like I've got a, not only a better version, I mean, probably a better song.

And me probably, you think that worked. So I think for the sake of this show in the production process today, I think we just, you stuck the landing, dude. Sick, sick. Now, you're awesome. Thank you. One take hove. Would that be the outro? Where are we?

I think we're in the beginning of the show. Oh, good. I think it's a good day, mate. You know, I had a public appearance this morning. And if folks from our community were to be pointed toward a show, it would be the one you're listening to right now, which would be really unfortunate. I'd be quite the unfortunate son. Can we catch people up on that baby you saved the other day that was in the middle of the road?

Yeah, I didn't want to talk about it on the pod. But you have been asking and... We don't have to tell. Babies alive. Okay. Thank you for selling all those homes for all those friends of mine this week that I referred you to. Referred you to them. That is a tough word, isn't it?

The referral. Yeah, like who referred who. Right. But yeah, anyways, thanks for doing that. You're most welcome. In addition to the baby thing. Yeah. Rocked 100 push-ups, two at the last seven as well.

That's really the beginning of the show, huh? I think so. But it sounded good? It sounded really good, dude. I thought you did great, honestly. And you'd be honest, yeah. No, I'd be honest. Like, you're not going to sound like an idiot.

Honestly, when you were practicing singing walking on sunshine, I was concerned. Okay. I was like, fuck, I'm glad that's not me. and then I think you came out pretty well there. Flip the switch into Fogarty brain. Totally, dude. We're good. Cool.

Sick. Honestly, and what we should do is probably take a short clip to start the show with so people know what we're, if you want to hear it, that's fine, but I promise you, we'll tell you if you sound bad. I'm good. I'm a clown and I don't care about shit anymore. Holy shit. Can we keep that?

Cut that part. Is anybody else worried about the area around my heart? No, no, no, no. Oh. And you're having palpitations. So you're doing all that through palpations or palpitations? Yeah, it's not a palpitation so much as it's like a, it feels like my heart is being squeezed, probably by a muscle.

Like I think the pecs are actually coming in. Dude, I don't know if you do a haircut, but you look like you could actually defend yourself pretty handily right now. Thanks. It's a little high and tight. Definitely tighter on the sides than usual, you know. He went like a little bit 10% jarhead. And no cap.

No cap for us today. We're having good hair days, respectively. So I don't know why you're experiencing those palpitations, man. No, I do. I seriously have a pain in the left pectoral area. And maybe it is just a muscle strain, but it kind of feels like. Podcaster has anxiety. Yeah, it just every time I breathe, is that a bad sign?

You're thinking about it too much. You should try belly breathing. That's what I do when I'm having a panic attack. Really? Yeah. Have you done the, like maybe it's 427 or 247? Like you inhale for four, you hold it for two. No, I've tried the Wim Hof method.

I've got all those numbers wrong. 457 maybe, the Iceman, Wimha. Yeah, but he also has guided breathing. Whole thing, dude, you're going down a rabbit hole that you're really going to enjoy. All y'all. Making Gunter, anxiety have her. It can fucking suck. But, you know, if there's a community of us, we can share.

No, it's okay. You have anxiety. Thank you for coming out and talking. talking about your mental health today. This is as good as I felt in several days, actually. I'm on the back end of a stressful little period here, I hope. With any luck, I don't even want to be the one to bring it up. It's the odds of March.

That's what worries me about your chest pain. And daylight savings, where apparently there are a lot more heart attacks. Exactly. That's what my dad said. My dad, he said, hi, Mags. You survived. Daylight Savings time. You're like you too, man.

Yeah, like, good on you. You're older than me. Yeah, right, he is. Iads of March. Explain to me what this actually means because I thought it was a movie. Well, I thought it was a Shakespeare thing and then a movie with Brian Gosling. Well, Julius Caesar in like real life, if you believe such stories died on the ides of March, which is the some number of days in the Roman calendar in, which happens to be March 15th. So March 15th, beware of the odds of March. Bad stuff happens, including the death of Julius Caesar and, um, heart palpitations. Rapper Nate Dogg in the year

2011. You did point that out. Two G's. RIP. That's right. Lou Holtz got on the microphone this week. It has been a bad week. Lou Holt spoke. You didn't hear Lou Holtz? Uh, oh, just, Google it. Yeah, I don't want to put people through it. it but yeah not now my heart is fucked up are any people doctors be the greatest last words of all time my heart is fucked up

honestly I see you're not turning blue your left arm I checked your left arm you're good anybody at home experiencing anxiety check your left arm I wish you could feel this not for you to be in any sort of danger but just to feel this, you know?

It's my flu game. So you're saying hello to Dayton, Ohio? Dayton, Ohio. Hello! I felt just fine. Do you remember when Dayton, Ohio was more relevant when Obie Topin was there? And then they got the whole NCAA

tournament stolen from them by COVID-19. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You thought I was just taking a gratuitous shot at Dayton. And I would never love Daytonians. But that sucked for y'all. Birthplace of aviation.

Allegedly. Well, hey, so listen. Yes. Dayton hosts hoop games Tuesday and Wednesday nights. Yep, certainly. And we used to call this the first four. That's no longer kosher. It's called the first round, which is baloney.

Right. They got that whole thing. Like, what is that about? Because I don't know. Was first four confusing? or demeaning or what? Demeaning? Like the teams that lost and feel like

they were really a part of the tournament. Right. At any rate. Yeah, be better. There's 69 fucking slots. I know it's 68, dude. That's right. I just throw on the extra one.

Rutgers and Notre Dame. Two teams. I think one of those teams beats Alabama. And then we got Wyoming, Indiana. I think the winner of that game is Indiana. They beat St. Mary's. I think.

Indiana beats St. Mary's from the little homework I've done. Point being, Dayton, Ohio is going to be a little hot spot this week. Not to mention the Flyers are in the tournament that actually matters than IT. Incredible naming your fucking team the Flyers, dude. Right. Meanwhile, Tar Heels stuck in mud. Thank you. All right.

Layup line. Yeah, shuffle them up. This shuffle thing, a lot of people are talking about it. like on the Reddit threads and yeah all the big Reddit threads and whatnot I was just getting it going I wanted to turn it down on Flickr people are talking about this on Twitcher flicker and Twitch yeah I know it's Twitch yeah flicker noe yeah barely nowhere okay who's going first bro but that's terrible marketing can we pause for 27 seconds flicker what do you think about when you hear flick how lights going up powers that powers out yeah when I think about a flick I think about a bugger so when I think about flicker I don't know

they do. I just think about boogers. What do they do? Is it a site that hosts pictures? If you have a hard time explaining what a thing does, it's going to be hard to make a fuck ton of money off it. I'm sure they're all richer than us. An online photo management and sharing application. Bang.

Okay, that makes sense. That was concise. Redacted. Here I go. Go ahead. Nowhere to run. Martha Reeves and the Vandela's. Fire. Okay. Going to be my nominee. Oh, maybe not. The tracks of my tears, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles.

Power of love, Huey Lewis and the News. Love is love, motherfuckers. That should be your... That should be our outro. That should be our entry right there. We'd have to clear that. And is that Huey, Lewis, and the news? You got it.

So you got to check with the news, too. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's going to take a while. That's the way that works. The Herald. Times Dispatch. Mule Skinner Blues.

Dolly Parton. I don't even, Ashton Park, James Gang, I don't even know what this is. It's just, I don't know, Spotify shuffle. There you go! We got a winner. She thinks my tractor sexy. I've never been so excited and embarrassed at the same time. Look at young Kenny Chesney, dude.

Born March 26th, 1968 in Luttrell, Tennessee. Jesus Christ. What's his shoe size? Over under 10. Oh, under. Okay. Cats 5, 5.5 and a half. Okay, all right.

That was three? No need to Tom Cruise him here. I'm going to go with Dolly Pard and Mule Skinner Blues. No, you know what? I'm going to go, she thinks my tractor is sexy. Thanks. Thank you for that. I, instead of actually going power.

of love Huey Lewis which again I can't stress this enough love is in fact love I'm gonna go nowhere to run by Martha Reeves and the Vandellas and I hope that is satisfactory that is satisfactory to the cowboy nowhere to run bang there it's baby saying no to Miel Skinner Blues on the day that Dali Parton said no to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame she declined she declined because she felt like she was undeserving but she said she's going to put out a rock and roll album out soon.

Her husband apparently is a big fan. That's cool as fuck. Dolly's the best. She really is. Yeah, find me somebody that hates Dolly. Hey, you show me somebody who hates Dolly? Probably since last summer.

I'll show you a toilet. Well, it doesn't quite make sense, but I got a soundboard here at my disposal. Nice, dude. You're really. getting your mastering that thing. Like a level six mage. Yeah, appreciate you.

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because we knew he'd be back. Wasn't something you had to pay attention to. I guess I'm surprised it's the Bucks because why would you retire? Right? And then figure it out 40 days later and say like I'm coming back and playing for the Bucks with this roster.

I know the timing of why he came back. Ryan Jensen is evidence of why you would come back right before free agency. But why would it be the last? the Bucks? Are they that good? Is the NFC that easy? Well, and is it what everybody predicted that he was trying to force his way to a place like San Francisco and the Bucks kind of said nah and played chicken with him and perhaps have won? And maybe he tries to make this a little messy in the ensuing few months? Probably not. I mean, there's only so much he can do. I'm surprised just because

he seems like such a thoughtful, non-waffling dude. but perhaps this was all choreographed. I think it's core. It was all choreographed. I mean, like we knew, I felt like it was choreographed because of the way it ended. It just didn't, it didn't end ceremoniously. And because of the way you just put it, he's thoughtful, I would have thought there'd be a longer kind of lead up to this. I mean, you can say, hey, listen, Tom is humble.

He's all those things, but there's also Tom versus time. There's TV 12. There's, you know, he maximizes his brand. And I feel like, you know, no retirement kind of like tour, no lead up, to just do it like that and to get beat to the punch by guys that, quite frankly, can't afford to make that mistake with him. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I'm just saying, like, you don't want to scoop Tom Brady. You give him his respect.

It just didn't feel like a real retirement. You just put it perfectly, like, you know, it could have been a leverage play. I mean, that's about the only thing I can think of, especially going to see Manchester United play. and Glazer and the ownership and kind of sitting down like maybe that was a Hail Mary no pun intended to be like hey man let me out

and he was like listen I own a soccer team and I'm not a Russian oligarch my yacht is going nowhere like American football is cute but we're at a soccer game and by the way he met Cristiano Ronaldo did you see that video Christiana Ronaldo was like

are you finished and he gave like the biggest you know I don't know about that that buddy. So you could have seen this coming. I guess there were clues. Well, he gave us the answer key in saying he wanted to play until he's 45. He's going to come up one short on that? Unlikely. No, especially not losing to Matt Stafford in a day game in the playoffs. Are they back in the situation? Yeah. No, they are. They're not good. I thought you're going to ask, are they good? They're going to be good. Tom Brady's the quarterback and, you know,

like they have some good defensive players. But listen, the NFC suddenly, you know, competitive or there's at least having one more team that's a contender is a big deal it's a big deal for fox like we're doing winners and losers later fox uh is definitely a winner here you know CBS is already won they've got every good quarterback on the planet but fox getting brady every sunday is a big deal brady said he had unfinished business in the NFL what do you think that unfinished business is he's got arguably three Hall of Fame careers, seven Super Bowl wins. What does he have to finish? I think it's not wanting to be done playing.

At home. Yeah, he's figuring it out to wrap his head around, like actually leaving. Can I ask you a serious question? Yes. Without any judgment, obviously, you provided very well for your lovely family. How often do you see the family in a season? Because it's not as if you're on the road for six months. When I had kids finally, like late in my career,

I was able to, as an NFL player, because I had the means to have my family living in town with me, you know, 11-year vet, 10-year vet. That's totally different nine-year vet than somebody who hasn't made his money has to, like, their guys who play in the NFL, and obviously not Tom Brady, that don't see their families for months on it.

That's a good point. Or weeks on end. You know, and that's got to kill you when you got young kids. Tom, he's already missed the like the young kids stage. That's heavy, you know, like my dad played 13 years. He had me pretty early. Like he always talks about regretting not having, you know, time when we were young. I think for Tom, I was always home by 7 o'clock.

You know, I tried to get home by 7.30, you know, like during game week to put kids to bed and like at least give my kids a hug there's no way tom brady is able to juggle like a full family life and what he does i was a defensive lineman sure i was the last guy in the building a lot times last guy in too to be absolutely real coaches don't get that steve spegnola didn't get that i remember he asked me he was like he's like i didn't realize the head coach's office right next the parking lot he's like you know i watch you do you know you're the last guy in in the morning i'm like well you must be the first guy out because i'm also the last guy here so But Tom Brady is definitely the last guy there.

And he's a quarterback and he has to work really hard. And I just don't know how you can have that full family life. So maybe he looked at it and him and Giselle talked it over. He bought himself time. But I would agree with you. I think it's probably a leverage play. I don't think it's about the family. I think when he's already sold his soul, so to speak.

He said, hey, I missed a lot of the coolest shit. I'm willing to do that. Coaches don't see their families at all. So this is not uncharted territory I just think this is a football decision for Tom Brady I don't think it's about his family Ninkovich joked on ESPN today I thought it was hilarious that he didn't know how to fit the bed sheet

like you know the fitted bed sheet and then he was stacking the things folding the fitted sheet is a it's a rough go for anybody yeah you know what he did is he realized podcasting's hard that's what Brady did and I appreciate him saying that out loud that this is an admission that what we do is harder than what he does. So he went back to what he did. Did he get a video off or was it just a Twitter thread? I can't even remember when he retired. He just did a thread. It was totally on ceremonious.

There was the too long didn't read like hey congratulations or I'm sorry about that meme and yeah it just didn't feel like this was it. It didn't feel real. Are we going to have to go through this every year or is it one more and done? Because of what you said this is a one time thing. I think with his bucks money I think he moved some things around and had an extra year it could have been a handshake deal you know it could have been like hey we'll move you if we you know next year and I don't know how ugly it got behind closed doors because one thing tom's never done has gotten ugly like publicly you know we all knew it was getting uglyish up there in new england but nobody knew anything can you imagine like as open as tom is now about getting drunk on a boat or you know whatever he's never going to be openly airing dirty laundry. And I think even if the laundry was really dirty, the last like 40 days, I don't think we'll ever hear about it. Well, we might hear a little bit about it, but that's not his style. I don't think he was planning to like come out of retirement. I think that it was more of a decision about like you've been doing something for 22 years. You're at the top of your field.

It'd be extremely anxiety producing to try to go do something else, especially when you know you can still do something as well as anybody else in the world. But also very impulsive of him then to retire that early in the off season. You know, I think you don't know how you'll necessarily feel about it. Like maybe in those 40 days, he realized like, oh, geez, this is anxiety producing. I don't feel like myself. Like there's this place where I've made his name for myself. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I'm all in on the choreography. It was, let's see how I can finagle this. No, I, I made it crystal clear right there. Jeff Fisher told me you didn't want to retire in months that started with Jay. You didn't want to do a January retirement. It's too soon. And for me, that's always when the offseason started. And I like how he counseled me that way.

And you don't want to do July or June because it's too close to season. It says, you know, I wasn't sure. I was exhausting my options. And I'll always remember that. So I know it wasn't January per se. Or yeah, it was. It was late January. Like a January retirement that wasn't preordained for Tom Brady never made sense to me.

Ryan Jensen's back. There'll probably be some older free agents taking sweetheart deals. Yep. And you know, nothing is more evidence that Tom Brady has absolutely no life outside of football in his mind than him crashing selection Sunday to do this because every white guy in their 40s loves college basketball. Like that's a holiday for for what will soon be us And to think that not only Is he going to ruin it for everybody else

And they're going to have to bring in Adam Schaefter In the middle of Selection Sunday The Pope could die And they wouldn't stop Selection Sunday The only other thing they might do it as for Is if Coach Kay was playing his last game Right full screen But drop the bottom line

Tom Brady has been fucking with us man We're doing winners and losers later Like Aaron Rogers owned this last year and then it just didn't go out with a bang the announcement after all that it's almost like Brady was saying like fuck everything y'all were just talking about

for the last 10 days like I'm going to give you the real news but I gotta tell you nobody's shocked we're about to have winners and losers in a big way we are tatty champs yes taty champs this was a bad idea or good idea one maybe both our best idea our best idea I'm really excited about it I can't wait so one of us is going to become the tatty champ

Taddy champs. Who's going to look the worst with a tattoo? Ralph's got tattoos. Ralph is here. Ralph does our social media, so it's really good that Ralph is finally in studio. This is awesome. It's good to have Ralph in the building. Matt, no tattoos I know of?

Nope. Ever came close? No, I thought I would actually go my whole life without getting tattoo. If my mom actually listened to this podcast, which she does not, she'd be very upset that I participated in this bet. What up, Jane? You're going to be in this shot. Jane, we're going to hide it. It's probably not even going to happen.

Reed, Taylor, never been close. I know Taylor's probably been close. I've never been close. My dad isn't a fan of tattoos, so if I lose, he's not a fan of me. Bro, I got a lot of strikes against me. But it's worth it. Work his son to the bone. And I'm covered in tattoos.

Taylor, you've been close? If I've been close, I've been unaware that I was close. And maybe my friends dragged me out of it. there but yeah i've never been close so maybe an opportunity to uh for a first here basically the way this thing's going to go is i'm not tattooed Megan's obviously not tattooed well what we're just going around the room uh yeah you're right i've got multiple family members multiple tattooed family members. Really?

Multiple. Besides your brother. Yeah. More. I don't think I have any tattooed family members. Sister? Uncle? My wife's tattooed.

I know that about you. So the way this thing's going to go is we're going to draw seven ping pong balls one by one here. You can hear the ping pong ball machine. What do you think of that ping pong ball machine make? Yeah, I got like a low rent staples. I actually like the ping pong. Exactly. Exactly.

But it's like a bingo machine, and we're going to draw out of there. And the first seven teams that we draw, respectively, will be the teams that we are pulling for individually in this year's NCAA tournament. So if Matt pulls an eight seed, that's the highest, the lowest seed that you can possibly pull in this little ping pong ball machine here. He will be rooting for that seed to win the national championship. there is a catch. Okay, you're going to make $2,500. That's what we settled on. That's our money team.

That's our money team. We're looking for a good team in round one. That's what we're all hoping for. And a question for you, if you win and your team wins? I don't get paid. Making and I have to pay you? No, I don't get paid. I don't get paid.

I'm only in this for the fun. I'm only in this for the content. So anybody that draws a winner in that first draw gets paid $2,500, big ones. And read and get a new pair of like skis. snowboard with that, whatever you want. And then don't spend it all in one place. And then the second set of seven draws, that's going to be the catch.

Now the catch here is, as we alluded to, is if that team that you draw in that second round wins the national championship, you are getting a tattoo. Now the terms, you want to explain the terms of the tattoo? Yeah, it needs to be somehow adjacent to the team that wins the title,

the team that you have drawn. So could I get a Kofi-Koburn, like fucking, just portrait? Sure. For sure. Okay, I hope I draw Illinois. I might just get that anyways. Yeah, Arkansas wins. Big Hog. Big hog. Yeah. Or even just the outline of the state. You can, you can take it in whatever you want. You can get Corliss Williamson on your thigh. Duke Blue Devils, you can get Mao Zedong. Pat Conradin. Yeah, or Pat Conradin. Famous Duke Blue Devil. but they're 32 teams in the thing.

That's what's up. So if Iowa won, could you get Kirk Farrants or something? Yeah, anything. Okay. Hayden Fry's Pink Visitor Locker room. Got you. Yeah,

which is just. And the fellows and I talked telepathically. We're going to pool our resources, get something real nice if you end up winning. Oh, thanks. I appreciate it. You know what's real nice for me? I was having fun as a group.

I'm not going to be able to do that for you. That's the work. But somebody might have a tattoo. Somebody might walk away with some money. Probably nothing happens. You want to kick off round one right here? Yeah, who's going first? Taylor up first.

Taylor's up first. This is on the good. Run TMC. Run TMC. Godspeed, my friend. Who is Taylor pulling for? This is the coolest thing we've ever done. Yeah, it's up there.

Taylor is pulling for Wisconsin. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah, this face is like not sure. Dog, I picked them in my final four this morning. morning, which might change? So they scare me.

That Midwest is wide open. They scare me when we scored 13 points the first half of that Virginia AC tournament game. I know it's a little soon, but Dan Katz, Big Cat, text me is like, our teams are very similar in that when they're bad, they go all the way. And that scares me for Taylor because, you know. Well, I like his region. You like the region. There's a lot of low floor teams in that region.

You got to be happy picking up three. All right, Reed's up next. Hey, good luck, Reed. You're my cowboy. Thank you. Duke. Oh, my God. Reed has the root for Duke.

Do you even want that money? In this instance, I'm game. Your game, okay. In this instance, he's game. If I can make some money off, Coach K. The beans. Good value.

That is good value. All right, Ralph. Although they suck. Ralph, you have Kentucky. Wow. I'm paying somebody, huh? Golly day. I am paying somebody.

Two is in the three? Is this rigged? It is not rigged. This one is for me. Watch Seton Hall, the only eight seed that's a dog come out. Oh God. All right, Kingston. Balls falling out of the machine.

Yukon. Don't know their work this year. An extra ball came out. Interesting. Is they a five seed? Yeah. Got Gonzaga in the way. Yikes.

Yucon makes runs. That's what they do. Coach Hurley over there. Shout out to Coach Hurley. Yeah. Big shout out to Coach Hurley. A little home court advantage. First two rounds.

All right. Picking for Nate by proxy. Dr. Faxe. We'll make money off at one way or another. Iowa. Iowa. Iowa. Not a bad one.

A little Midwest battle. Taylor and Fax. Okay. So far nobody's in. I can text Nate and tell him he's a Hawkeye fan. All right. It's your time. Okay.

Give me a one. Give me the Zags. Pull the zags out of there. Nifty little machine. North Carolina. Ohio State. Oh, Jesus. That's good content, though, man.

Prove that it's Ohio State. Hey, that's pretty good. Not that we could see. Prove that it's Ohio State. He just showed me a charcoal gray marble with some black scribbling on it. You could be saying anything right now. Chris, you in C.

Oh, God, if you're talking about. I'm not in this thing for money anyway. So, like, whatever. I'm not rooting for that team They're going to lose to Marquette Okay I'm going to replace the balls And then we'll get into rounds as she said

There are a few of those It's the danger You run when you run a Bingo Ball Stravagan's Yeah parlor This really is all about not getting a tattoo So yeah this is the

This is we are here So who's up first Who's up first? And by the way, you can draw the same team. So we're putting the balls back in. There was some discussion about, does Kentucky stay out? Nope. I would love it if somebody's rooting for Kentucky.

Ralph's rooting for Kentucky and Reid's rooting against them. You get a Wildcat tattoo. Oh, that would look good on you, Reed. All right. Here we go. Anybody want to go first? Run TMC. Let's go same order.

Got it. Wisconsin is his money team. This is his tat team. The reaction. I swear to God. What is it? Dude, just tell me, please. what is it

Wisconsin Oh my god I Good love with that Terry So now Is it worth it for you to get

a tattoo of a badger at $2,500 Or Dan Katz's portrait Yeah probably Maybe the Maybe the badger Now I'm paying for this tattoo

So you get the 2,500 You don't need to pay for the tattoo Nobody can go like I'm actually Can go like Girl with a dragon tattoo and get like a full back

Don't like try to parlay this into, I was thinking about doing this peacock for a while, and the 15 seed ended up. No, in all honesty, I'm not too afraid of a tattoo because Wisconsin has a notorious track record of making it pretty far in the tournament, but never actually winning it. Kind of like Gonzaga. I'd pull that tape for when the badgers are wrong. Yeah, Johnny Davis is scoring 28th of the final. That's going to be interesting. All right, Reed. Get a big w or a hunk of cheese.

Okay, Duke's money, Reed's money team is Duke. Duke, Reed, your new name is Duke. Your cowboy Duke now. Tat team. Well, UCLA. UCLA, now that's dangerous, Ruins. You think so? Yeah, I think Baylor's a soft one there.

I think that's dangerous. A Bruin. Core, danger of Bruin. Core that Final Four team's back. I put a bear on my butt. Yo. And then, what? A Bruin.

Yeah, brewing. I'm going to tattoo. I'm going to put a brewing on my butt. Something's always... There's a bidet joke in here somewhere. I'd be worried. High stakes for Reid so far. Duke and UCLA.

Yeah. It's not the worst thing. It's just going to be getting splashed. The rest of his life. Who's next? Ralph, here we go. Money team Kentucky. Tatt team.

Lucky. San Diego. state. San Diego State. I guess I'm not getting tadded that. Aztec piece. Be kind of tight. Yeah, cool logo. My brother played there, so maybe if it happens.

Wow. But highly doubtful. What position do you play? Right in back. Okay. Yeah. So there's a family connection there. All right. I'm up next. I'm just expecting Gonzaga. Oh, find a reason to root for Gonzaga.

Kingston's money teams, Yukon. Not joking. What is it? Gonzaga! The odds on favorites. Mark Few featuring Drew Timmy, Chet Holmgren,

Andrew Nimmard. Timmy! It's funny because anybody who's asked me about NCAA, I've been like, Gonzaga's probably going to win. This is their year. That's amazing. The one way I convinced myself

that to do this draft was like, oh, you won't pick Gonzaga. Yeah, you've picked Gonzaga. I mean one association outside of a bulldog up there. Mark Few's face. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm just forgetting his name. Adam Morrison. Yeah, I'm gonna get his mustache just tattooed right above my lip actually.

Yeah, that's good. Why don't you just, an Adam Morrison portrait would be fucking cool as shit, dude. Like, your only tattoo is Adam Morrison portrait, black and gray? It'd be on brand for me too. People would be so, you'd be so mysterious. Hey, I like gambling. This is a sweat. We got ourselves a sweat, boys.

We got a real sweat here. Here, you're gonna want this ping pong ball back. State of Washington, like a rectangle. Rectangle. Picking for Nate. It's probably a rectangle. Facts. Money teams, Iowa.

Duke. Duke. The Duke Blue Devils. Okay. Duke's kind of easy though, because you can slap a devil tattoo on you pretty easily, but Nate won't go for that. Nate's parents aren't going to go for that. So Nate's in a real pickle here. Well, he'll have to get creative with what to put on there.

He'll have to do something, not a devil, but something Duke adjacent. You can do like the 1K Mike Shosheski logo. You can just say it's a thing. thousand whatever the hell just put a quote from coach k you know coach k quote would play well what was it like everybody be quiet everybody be quiet you just get that shit tattooed on him all right makes here we go okay wouldn't mind a uh mind uh even a michigan state popular in march ls u oh thank god they just fired their coach without a coach a tiger Coachless LSU.

Easy tattoo. I do think they weirdly, could I vacate my tattoo? What do you mean? There's like nothing there. Yeah. Because this season will probably go away. I think they sneaky could make a run

with Kevin Nickleberry there at coach, but I feel pretty good about that. I feel really good about that. All right. See long. LSU. Here's your time. I just know I'm going to lose.

I always lose this stuff. I set it up, then I lose it. Arizona. Come on. Houston. Oh, yeah, that's great. They're good. That's great.

They were good, and then they lost Marcus Sasser. You're fine there. I just get a J-Lo portrait. I think they're bouncing around one. Oh, I got it. Yeah. Or a slab of concrete. A lot of concrete in that city.

For sure. Just an overpass over one of your other tattoos. For sure. And overpass. You don't like this tattoo? drive over it. Yeah. We're good, huh?

All right, so I got Houston. I mean, that's a big sigh relief for your boy here. You won a Super Bowl there. We could talk about getting like a, oh, you would hate to get a Lombardi. You would never do that. I would never do that. No offense to any of my friends

with Lombardi trophies tattooed all the way up and down their arms. You stick to more like assistant coaches than. Yeah, exactly. Trophies. Yeah. To recap the TAT teams, Wisconsin, UCLA, San Diego State, Gonzaga, Duke, LSU, and Houston. See, I honestly don't think any of those teams win the national championship.

I think one of them does. You think Gonzaga wins at all? I do. Well, spoiler alert. I do indeed. We'll talk to Tate here in a minute about it. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBet app yet, I got great news for you.

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Y'all take care. My favorite part... He doesn't know his own outro music. We jacked your outro music and spent it to 1.5x, and you just heard it, and you weren't even going to say anything, you're going to let us jack your outro music? Honestly, I don't care.

I mean, I made that song years ago, And I appreciate that everyone enjoys the song. So I would love to hear you guys. You guys can use it. I'm just telling you. Well, we know because that's it in 1.5x. We just conied your outro music and now it's ours. In preparation for this show.

Yeah. And for a bracket event this morning, I watched Titus and Tate do their live React. That's right. On Sunday to the selection show. And because time's money, I put it at 1.5 speed. And the theme song,

just went, bro, balls to the wall. 1.5X really freaks that song. And then when you hear it at normal speed, I don't know. I mean, no,

normal speed is respectable, but look into 1.5x. You think we should bump it up to 1.5X? Yes, dude. That's the answer. All right. I can do that. That's easy.

I can bump that up. I need to listen to it to make sure that you guys are right. But I also trust, you guys are tastemakers. I believe you. Okay. That's good to know.

That's good note. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you,

If Tate Frazier's on any of my screens, I'm watching. And you have been a lot lately. I've seen Tate on multiple screens at the same time. Let's go in reverse order. We'll talk about the travesty that was the ACC tournament, and the Carolina had one job. It did not do it. And neither did the Duke Blue Devils,

and we have yet another team in the NCAA tournament, which we'll get to there in the east. Let's go counterclockwise, starting in the West. Takeaways, Tate. Speaking of those Duke Blue Devils, a two-seed playing in Greenville, your thoughts? I mean, you know, look, we knew that Coach Kay was going to get, you know, some sort of preferential treatment because he always does, right? That is the history of the NCAA tournament since about 1991-92.

Coach Kay is going to get a good draw, and they're going to make him have a path to the final four. But if I'm a Tennessee fan, I am over the moon upset about this. The SEC, in my opinion, was the best conference of basketball. I know a lot of people want to argue, you know, the Big Ten or, you know, the Big Twelve or whatever it may be. But if you really looked at the rosters and the coaches and everything that happened to the SEC, I mean, it was a gauntlet. And what Tennessee did beating Kentucky head-to-head twice, you know, they beat Arizona. Like, what else could this team do to be a two-seat? I thought they were a lock as a two-seed.

And the fact, I mean, I could even get the argument that there are one seed with Tennessee after they won the SEC tournament. So the fact that Duke gets bumped the line ahead of them That is literally the definition of preferential treatment Tennessee deserved it Rick Barnes deserved it But Coach K gets what he wants in the end As we all know and as we all expect So the 611 matchup

Bama I feel like I'm definitely going to be scribbling The winner of Ruckers, Notre Dame Because of Bama's kind of inconsistency Let kind of people tell it Are you more concerned about Bama's chances Against the Ruckers or in Notre Dame? I think either one of the, whoever wins, I think whoever wins Rutgers, Notre Dame is going to beat Alabama, you know.

And I think it really doesn't matter who wins that game. I have Notre Dame beating Rutgers, but I could, you know, I've seen this Rutgers team throughout the entire season, shocked the world. So I wouldn't be shocked if they, you know, beat Alabama and went on a little run. But I think whoever wins Rutgers, Notre Dame, they're going to beat Alabama. That would be my bold prediction right there. And speaking to the 11s, do you take issue with the tech seating? Because I feel like they actually got dropped. I do. You know more about, college basketball and you know you hate tech probably more than me I am willing to admit that maybe they did get jobs a little bit and they're probably going to be Texas what the committee said though very clearly was if they don't beat duke when they see tournament they're left out right Dayton's probably had of them maybe even others by virtue of being the 11 that's what I read into it because I agree that's interesting yeah but I mean like the seatings here seem irrelevant in these 611s they're

interchangeable the teams are like I mean they're all going to be toss-ups right so I don't the new 512. It's a new 512. I really honed in on the 6 and the 11 this year. I like that. I think that's a good bet. I will say this Virginia Tech team. They were a tournament team all year. They started off so bad in the ACC, and they

actually really got screwed. I mean, I'm a Carolina guy. Their first ACC game was supposed to be in Chapel Hill against Carolina. And I think they win that game. And I think if that game doesn't get moved or postponed because of COVID purposes, Carolina starts out 0-1 in the ACC. They lose one of their quad one wins.

They kind of kept them afloat before the Duke game, you know, as far as their resume for the tournament. So in this weird world, Virginia Tech got, I think, what they deserved. The karma was on their side. They're a really good basketball team. I think you're right, Chris. I think they're better than an 11 seed. That's a tough. He knows it.

And they shoot the ball well. So I feel like they're a little bit dangerous. I saw you guys had them in the Sweet 16. I'm not going to be rooting for that, but I will be. I don't even know what the line is, but I'll take tech. I'll take tech as well I mean I just think that they believe in themselves too

I mean nobody had them beating Duke in that ACC championship game and you know we we know a couple guys that are you know on the hokey staff and talk to them and they loved it they loved that nobody believed in them and that's kind of how they've been operating for two months right I mean

as they were trying to get on the bubble everyone's like well Virginia Tech has no chance there's no way that they're even in the conversation but they proved everybody right that has believed in them I thought they were going to win the ACC see this year. I looked like an idiot back in January, but I feel a little bit more vindicated because they were able to show up in Brooklyn. And now if they go to the Sweet 16, Mike Young's a

great coach. So if they go to the Sweet 16, it would shock me because Mike Young has the ability to get this team to play up to their level of talent. And Storm Murphy, how do you stop the storm? Okay. All right. There's some shooters on the roster. And on paper, yeah, they looked like a top four ACC team preseason. But we're handing Mike Young as flowers when they were in an NIT club before going on a run in Brooklyn. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just telling you.

No, but this was Tech's best team. This was the squad. No, I get it. Which is why I'm willing to give them this. If they were fucking good at this sport, which they're not. They did earn it. Like traditionally, like it's not, football butters their bread. I'm going to be more resistant

to giving them praise over there. Let's let them have their praise. They played fine. And actually, I'll tell you this. I was watching the other night. I was conflicted. That was like a fucking shit sandwich. I was not conflicted in the least. Well, no, it still is a shit sandwich.

I mean, and I'm naturally going to root for the underdog. But I was rooting for Duke. And when it became apparent that they weren't going to win the game, I started evaluating. Do I actually dislike this team? I don't dislike the tech team. The players on the team are likable. I agree. I don't disagree with that.

And I don't disagree with the Mike Young take. I am just, I'm bitter. And it's okay. I get it. Bitter. I'm depressed. I'm sad. because banners hang forever and they do not have any business hanging an ACC title banner in that

in that barn of a gym tape jumping back up where we're talking about duke um i got another i got another 11 man talk to us talk to us about the relationship between michigan state foster lawyer davinson does iso better chance of losing round one or making it to the sweet 16 and and ending Coach K's farewell tour as it should be ended. I think they have a better chance of losing to Davidson. I know Titus, my co-host, he's a big tin guy. He thinks that there's no world in which foster lawyer gets his revenge against Michigan State, which makes me feel even more emboldened by this approach by Davidson.

Bob McKillop, I mean, I was talking about Mike Young being a great coach. Bob McKillop is one of the most underrated coaches in all of basketball at any level. He's such a great coach, but he's just been at Davidson for so long. And Davidson, you know, has a history. They have a pedigree. I mean, guys like Lefty-Drazel were there, you know, getting this team ready to be a national championship team way back in the day. So it's not like they haven't been here before. I think Michigan State is going to overlook Davidson trying to get ahead to that matchup that you're talking about against Duke.

And the world and the referees and everybody else is going to want Izzo versus K. I think that Coach K would actually rather play Tom Izzo's Michigan State team this year than Davidson. Davidson will be a really, really tough matchup for Duke. When we talk about veteran guards, a veteran team, there's a lot of international football. player to that Davidson squad, a guy named Sam Meninga, one of my favorite players in the country. I think he'll give them some problems. And I think that Duke will think that they'll run Davidson out of the gym. And that hubris will come back to bite them. If they play Michigan State, Duke will show up and probably blow out Michigan State in my opinion. So if Davidson beats Michigan State,

Duke is a little bit worried about that. Let's round out the ACC talk. Carolina, Marquette, your fellas. High ceiling, low floor. Do they go as best? Baycott goes. Usually you want the dynamic guard. I mean, who are you leaning on? RJ Davis? It's RJ Davis. We go as far as RJ Davis can take us. And unfortunately, a lot of times he is taken out of the game by his own teammate, Caleb Love, who takes the ball out of his hand and starts shooting. So if Caleb Love can fight over ball screens, Marquette leads the country, you know, and screen and roll. So, I mean, they're going to try to get Caleb in a lot of situations where he has to fight over screens. I don't see him enjoying that at all. I think this will be a really tough game. Shock is smart. He has North Carolina basketball's number. I don't understand it. And they're playing in Texas. So Shaka will be comfortable, obviously being back in Texas. I think Carolina will sneak by in this game just because they're the better team. I think Baycott is a pretty good matchup for them. I don't know who they put on him.

I mean, Lewis is a four, but he's not really a traditional big right there that can really match up with Baycott. And then when we get to the next round of Carolina survives Marquette, I do like the matchup against Baylor. It's kind of the same thing. I mean, Sohan is more of a four, but he can play the three. and then now he's going to have to guard Baycott, who was a true big, a true five, which I like that matchup. But I mean, Carolina-

You're talking yourself into a Carolina run. I mean, Carolina, I really like the way that they lost the Virginia Tech. That was a big 180 from about 30 seconds ago. Did you really like the way they held Virginia to 13 points and Brady-Manick couldn't miss? I love that. That was a lot of fun.

I mean, as you guys know, I think the last time I came on the show, we were talking about how Virginia owns Carolina. It had been seven straight. So the fact that Hubert won the first two this year, that was pretty much one of the big. I mean, obviously the beating K was the highlight of the season, but beating Virginia twice is up there. So after I watched the Virginia game, I went to that game in Brooklyn. I felt a lot better about North Carolina.

And we wanted no parts with Duke. You know, and I know a lot of people are rolling their eyes and they're like, you know, they weren't going to throw a game against Virginia Tech. I'm not saying they threw the game, but they were okay to lose that game. So that makes me feel a little bit better about Carolina and their chances to actually make a run. here's one for you six out of last seven champs have not been automatic qualifiers they have not won their conference journey virginia being one of them in 2019 sometimes you bow out a day early that's right a little more rest yeah a little rest that's all that was lately we've been taking that thing pretty literally you know what you don't like it

he just called us the benchmark bro he just told us out loud that virginia is now i knew we were okay I felt good about how we played Virginia. We heard that from a UNC guy, so just take it in, dude. Sure, everything's gone to shit since we won a national championship. Well, three guys left early. Another one last year. This team looks a lot different with Trey Murphy. Our football coach left.

We lost to Ohio. We scored 13 points. There was a Chiron for like we're the first team. That's a thing, dude. I didn't even feel it though, honestly. Like once you win a national championship, UMBC doesn't hurt anymore. Correct. By the way, UMBC, how does it?

How did that feel? Getting beat by 40 by Ryan Rissillo's school, huh? Oh, I didn't even see that. They got fucking stomp. They don't make the radar. Well, I just twist the knife a little bit. I don't even feel it anymore. National Championships like a Xanax, dude.

When people say UMBC to Virginia fans, I'm like, you're basically made the 2019 title look better. So I don't understand that. But go on. No doubt about it. You have another 11? Oh, I do. Michigan.

They suck. What are they doing at 11? And why? You have an All-American. Okay, cool. I mean, like, you know, and maybe they know something I don't own about like, you know, I don't know, fucking whatever your metric systems are, you college basketball geniuses. But we were just talking about them missing the tournament, weren't we? Jokingly, at the very least, like, Joanne Howard, chill out, you're going to be in the NIT and I'm looking up and they're in 11.

And they're probably going to beat Colorado State, right? I don't know about that. I will say Michigan has a little bit of Duke on them where it's like the preferential treatment is obviously a bound with this team. I mean, everyone wants to make sure that they stayed in the tournament. and everybody wanted to make sure that, you know, Juan Howard, don't say anything bad about Juan Howard, even though, I mean, he smacked somebody in the fake. He can't say anything bad about him.

So I have figured that Michigan would get in. The Big Ten has strong sway, obviously, as we've seen over the years, with being able to get teams in. Dayton was very upset about Michigan getting in over them. But in reality, Dayton got beat out by Wyoming, not Michigan, because Michigan was bumped up to the 11 line. So you can't really even argue that if you're one of the first, four out teams. You can't really be mad at Michigan based on how they were seated. But to have

their record, I know that Ken Palm and, you know, all these, like you said, all the metrics love Michigan. But I always look at the number one metric, which is wins and losses. And that always stands out to me. So I'm pretty shocked that Michigan got in. But I also understand, you know, kind of the world we're in. And I don't see them beating Colorado State, to be honest with you. I mean, maybe they do. Maybe that's their one win in the tournament. And that's kind of like a a hurrah moment. See, we told you we deserve to be here. But Colorado State's a really good team. They were the last undefeated team in the country and, uh, you know, they're obviously going to be excited to play Michigan. And I can see Michigan thinking that they got it in the bag playing

Colorado State and that's not going to be the case. Let me ask you a question, Tate. As somebody who like really grinds college hoops and around this time of year, I feel like people all of a sudden, I realize which ones of my friends are watching a fuck ton of college basketball. And I'm like, it's just such a volume sport. There's so many teams like Chad and Nuga. I'm looking up one row here. How many Chattanooga games have you watched this year? I mean, I probably have watched three or four. That's, you know, that's including the tournament. So I'd say probably one or two was in there. So I mean, but you know the players. I always look at the conference standings and then I'll look at, you know, Boise State, right? They were in first place all year.

So I'm like, okay, Boise State, they're going to be a tournament team. Let me, I'll randomly see a game on FS2 or whatever it is, been on the West Coast. And I'm like, I'm going to tune in and watch Boise. Colorado State was sort of the same thing. They were undefeated. So I was like, I need to check out these guys, so I feel a little bit familiar with them. But like weirdly last year, I remember Winthrop. I had watched, you know, way too many Winthrop games somehow. And I had bought into the fact that Chandler Waldron was going to go on this run and Winthrop was going to go to the Sweet 16.

And then I looked like an idiot when they lost in the first round. So sometimes knowing or watching a team too much can almost hurt you. You know what I mean? It's almost better to peel back a little bit and say, I like the Jack Rabbits, but I don't think they're going to beat the Biggies champions, you know? I don't know what the formula is because I'm supposed to be an expert and I've never gotten a bracket right. You know what I mean? Like I've never looked at a bracket and say, wow, I really nailed this.

There's always been, you know, something that really stands out. Let's stay in the South. Speaking of player and team, Jelly Walker, UAB. We saw Houston at the beginning of the year and got boat race, but they had Marcus Sasser at that point. Which Houston are we going to get? And can a guard like Jelly Walker win a game or two? I think Jelly Walker is the best name in the tournament. I love his game.

I mean, he's a Kimba candidate we had on our list, you know, as far as guys that can really make a run. I think UAB should win this game. But it scares me because, you know, Houston has a great coach, obviously, in Samson. And he knows how to grind out games. And I think they're playing someone that's similar to their conference. Tyson and I were talking about today, it's like playing UAB feels like a conference game for these guys. So they actually probably should be favored. So I think Houston wins one game.

I think they beat UAB. Jelly Walker hopefully has a good game. I'll be pulling for him. But I think they win one, and that's when the road ends for Houston. Because like you said, without Sasser, this team is overachieved anyway.

But I don't see Houston going on a final four run like we did last year. They don't have the guy. They don't have the star to do it like Quentin Grimes. We're in the South. I want to talk about my guy. Kofi Coburn, dude. Did you have an over-underbed on how quickly I'd get to Kofi?

Because I fucking love this guy. I just watched YouTube on him last night. He was on my All-Vibs team last year. And I was just on a YouTube rabbit hole in this guy, how great would he have been in 1986? Like, where is he getting drafted in 1986? Which is the frustrating part because the bigs get no respect. And if you watch the NBA, the two best players are the three best players really are all bigs. You know, Yokage, Embed, and Janus, they're all bigs.

And yet somehow Steph Curry has still changed everybody's minds that, you know, big shouldn't go first. And even though DeAndre Aten, who was the number one pick, people were like, big mistake, should have taken Luca. I mean, his team went to the finals last year and he's a big part in an anchor on that team. So I love the Biggs. I'm a big fan of the Biggs. I love Kofi Coburn. I do like this Illinois team.

I picked them to win it last year. So obviously I'm back on the bandwagon. It's not because Trent Frazier has my same last name and initials or anything. It's just I like this group a lot. Kofi, I'm always worried when they can pull them out into ball screens and get them in situations that aren't so great. But I have Illinois upsetting Arizona, which...

Wow. I think a lot of people have that. But it's because of Coburn. I think Coburn versus Coloco is going to be a great matchup, but I think Coburn is the better big there. And I think that Arizona kind of, you know, they've already beaten Illinois once, and I think this time Illinois gets them back.

Do you hold the Pac-12 against Arizona? I like the Pac-12. Okay, you actually like them. Yeah, I have UCLA and USC in the Elite Eight. Okay. I'm wondering, yeah, so it's just purely a match-up thing. Yeah, it's a match-up thing. Arizona, I had going to the Final Four in my head

until I saw the draw. and I was like, wow, Illinois is a tough match up there if they meet them in the Sweet 16. I've got UCLA in the national semifinals, but USC, you, USC, you watch the ACC, Miami, five out, a lot of scores. It can be hit or miss with them. USC traveling across the country.

I flirted, so the Midwest is just a disaster because I think I'm going to zag and put Kansas all the way. through because Auburn, who the hell knows? Don't play well away from home. It's sort of Jabari's show. The three Wisconsin, I mean, it's again, Johnny Davis, unless he's going to take over a game who knows Providence is probably the lowest floor, highest ceiling team. I think they might get bounced by South Dakota State. In Iowa, we overvalued these conference champs. The committee doesn't. But we do just because it's fresh in our minds. And, and, and, and, and,

and they're inconsistent too. So if not Kansas, I don't know who it would be. It's not going to, Will Wadeless LSU? Didn't Providence get blown out in the fucking conference tournament? Yeah,

they did. Do you hold that again? And that says something. When you call them like a low floor team, or are they low floor or high floor? Low floor. They're low floor. Yeah,

they're fucking terrible. Because the Creighton killed them. Lost Virginia too. I was at that game when Providence got blown out and I talked to a few coaches, you know, Big East coaches on the ground.

And I asked them, I'm like, who are the two best teams in the Big East that can make a run. And not one coach said Providence. And when I brought up Providence, like what do you think about Providence? They literally laughed and said that's the luckiest team ever.

So there is no one in the Big East that believes in Providence making a run. And maybe that's good for Providence. Maybe they do, you know, nobody believes in us to take a Simmonsism there. But I mean, maybe that's what gets them going. But their luck or whatever you want to call it, their good fortune that they've had all season, it felt like it ran up against Creighton in the Big East. And I think that they almost stopped believing in their.

own magic in that game because Creighton ran them off the floor. So Providence, you cannot convince me to buy into Providence. And I'm happy to be wrong. I bet on them to win the Big East tournament. So they've already broken my heart once. 2020. It's really easy to run a nobody believes in this campaign when you're a religious school. Exactly. It's a God joke. It's a God joke. Okay. I just, okay, we've touched on Auburn. I, well, Auburn fans were a bit ridiculous in the aftermath of 2019 with the talking about the double dribble and not take into account the intentional foul.

How good is that kid? Jibari Smith. I mean like is he extremely good? Like comp him to somebody do a pro comp thing for me. He's the Kevin Durant of college basketball actually. Like it's not even, we joke about that on our show. Everyone wants to be the next Kevin Durant. But I mean, when you see Jabari Smith on a basketball court, you're like, who's that 610 guy

that has handles and can score and get you a basket whenever you need one? I'm not talking about our guy, chat. Chet also, you know, he's like more like a porzengist than like a rant, you know what I mean? Like a porzengis with heart, I would say. Oh, wow. I mean, I don't know you guys are diehard porzenghis. No, fucking guy hasn't been on the Knicks for years.

I'm having heart issues today. But yeah, I mean, I think Jabari Smith can win you games. The problem with Auburn is that their guards have not figured out that he's the best player on the team. Katie Johnson thinks he's the best player on the team. Windale Green thinks he's the best player on the team. and we all know watching that they're not. So that's my problem with Auburn. Someone has to give Jabari the ball,

and those guards don't want to. 2019, the team we do feel for is the Purdue Boilermakers who had every right, as did Virginia, to move on in that Elite 8 game with Carson Edwards. I know you, for some reason, have VPI moving into the Sweet 16, but were we to get a Purdue-Kentucky regional semifinal can Purdue hang? Yeah, for sure.

I think if Purdue is playing Kentucky, we get the best version of Purdue, to be honest with you. I think Purdue at times plays to their competition, which I think Duke is a big offender of that truth as well. But I think that Purdue would fare well against a team like Kentucky as opposed to a team like Virginia Tech

because this Purdue team, they have like Team of Destiny vibes, but they aren't playing like a team of destiny. And that always concerns me. Same with Auburn, where these guys think that, you know, it's a shoe in, they're going to win. And if we remember last year, I mean, Jayne Ivy was amazing last year going to the tournament and they lose North Texas, right? So it's not like, you know, we haven't seen some iteration of this before with this team. So I'm a little worried about Purdue.

That's why I have Virginia Tech beating them because I think they overlooked Virginia Tech. But if they played Kentucky, I mean, that's a coin, that's a coin toss game. I mean, it's basically Sheebley versus E.D. and Trayvion Williams and if they could get Shibway in foul trouble and get him out of the game, you know, then you got Tai Tai Washington versus Ivy. That's kind

of a toss up. I would probably lean Ivy there, to be honest with you. I like Tai Tai Tai a lot, but probably Ivy. So Purdue could beat Kentucky. If that's the question, yes, they can definitely beat Kentucky. What do you think Ivy's vertical is when he goes to fucking caught? That guy's ridiculous. Yeah, it's going to be something insane. They're going to be high on my must

watch list. Like of the teams in this bracket, I would love to watch Purdue. Just sit down and enjoy Ivy. And I want to ask you about St. Peter. See a game? No, I have not the game. We found one. Okay.

We would have called the authorities. Get the fuck out of here. Dude, you watch the peacocks. As of 338 Eastern Time on Monday, who's in your final four? And will you return to your bracket? Will you waffle? Will you continue to analyze or is it locked in?

I know you guys have recorded a show. Yeah, we record a show. It's locked in. I did a bracket. I'll break the fourth wall. I did a bracket last night. I always will like sit by myself, you know, kind of just do a, like what I think based on what I've seen. Like this is my head bracket. So like I, I did a bracket. I got done. I had Gonzaga beating Kansas in the finals. And I was like, okay, Mark Few did it. I did it. And I turned on ESPN. And Jay Billis had my exact same pick. And so I balled up my bracket. And I said, I'm going to restart today. And so I did.

my bracket this morning. My final four I had Gonzaga. I had Gonzaga playing UCLA so a rematch from last year in the final four which I think would be great. I think both those teams obviously played earlier in the season but that would be a lot of fun to see that happen again. On the other side I had Villanova. I saw Villanova

at the Biggie's tournament in person. Colin Gillespie was giving me Psycho T. Tyler Hansborough vibes where I don't know who's going to stop this guy because he is so determined and it has so much self-belief that this team is going to the final four. I mean every Villanova person I talked to, all they talked about was the Final Four, even though they

won the Big East tournament. They were already passed it at that point. So I have Villanova going to the Final Four again because I have Arizona losing to Illinois, and then I have Villanova playing Illinois. Villanova beats Illinois, goes to the Final Four. And then at the bottom, I have Kansas. I bet on Kansas to win the title at the start of the year. I really like Ochiag Bhaji. He's my favorite player in college basketball. If I were at NBA GM, I'm taking that kid in the lottery. I'm putting him on my team. I won him on my side. He's the best. I plays defense. The definition of a two-way player. I think he still has upside. I don't think he's fully formed yet. So I have Kansas beating,

I believe, I think I had him beating Iowa in the elite eight, but I'll have to look at that. But regardless, those are my final four. Probably USC. USC is on the bottom half of that. I had USC. So Kansas beats USC. They go to the final four. Villanova, Kansas. I have Kansas over Villanova, UCLA over Gonzaga, which is like a written game from last year. And then I got UCLA Kansas in the final. I think the entire universe thinks that UCLA is the team of destiny. And I think Kansas beats UCLA and Kansas wins at all. I watch a lot of hoops. I don't know that I've known less about two ones than

Baylor and Kansas. Oh, Baylor. Say one we checked out. Yeah. Jared Butler's not walking through that door. None of those guys. And we know McCormick for Kansas. Kansas just got a guard back. Is that right? Well, and they have, I mean, Remy, obviously, who transferred in. I mean, he's a guy who's been there before. I mean, he's almost a guy that could win you a game. Weirdly enough, Remy Martin, of course. He's a Pac-12 player. You said best name in the fucking tournament earlier. Remy Martin. Yeah. Like, come on. Yeah, we had a Kyle, Kyle Creighton, who's Bill Simmons producer, was our producer once in a time. We had a segment, you know, Kyle, we had

good guy, bad guy, Kyle guy, and then Kyle's guy. And Kyle's guy was always Remy Martin, obviously because of the liquor implications. Good on you for being able to pronounce Crichton, which Bill still can't manage to do. We're having a Malik Mock. We're a Malik Mock, but Kyle's is literally a relative. But Malik Mock is an NBA player. That's true.

We have Taddy champs here at Greenlight Pod, Tate, where we've drawn teams. If your TAT team wins a title, you have to get a tattoo relating to, that team. One of our producers, unfortunately, has drawn the top eight seeds,

so 32 teams were in the pool. One of our producers has drawn the Gonzaga Bulldogs, which is unfortunate. Of these other few... Which you could see his face, Matt. It was not good. Who has the best chance to win the title of the rest of this group?

Wisconsin, UCLA, there's your answer. San Diego State, Duke, LSU is my team. Houston is Chris's team. Houston ain't winning. So you're sweating if you have Gonzaga or UCLA, I'd reckon. I think you're sweating.

But I think the good news is that both of those teams think they're going to win the title. And the other side, it might be to compare to something. It reminds not that anyone's undefeated, but 2015, where when Wisconsin beat Kentucky, right, they assumed that they won the championship that it was over. But then they had to play the next game and they played Duke. And obviously Duke beats them and upsets them. So I can see that happening with both Gonzaga and UCLA. If they were to meet like I had in my bracket and play again,

obviously the winner of that game thinks they are the team of destiny, especially if you're Gonzaga after what happened last year. But yeah, I mean, I can see them being the bridesmaid again. But I feel bad for the producer that got Gonzaga, because if there was ever a year for them to get over the hump, this is the year. This is Drew Timmy's last dance. They have everything that you need. Andrew Nimhard, if he's not the best point card in the tournament,

he's one of the best point cards. So Gonzaga would be scary. I feel bad for the producer that got the Zags. overall, do you feel like this is going to be a great March madness relative to most years? I think, I think societally it has to be COVID kind of tapering off, online betting all-time high, fucking the thirst for it. Like last year was kind of weird. This is going to be awesome.

What do you say? I say yes. I mean, the fans being back, I mean, we were in indie last year. It was weird, you know? Like, there's nothing weirder than Jalen Suggs hitting one of the biggest shots I've ever seen. and being able to hear myself cheering, you know? Like, that doesn't make any sense. So the fact that fans are going to be there,

the fact that it's got to be packed, the fact that we're going to have real atmosphere again, I think that's going to take it to the next level. And, you know, we don't have any of the replacement teams, hopefully knock on, none of that stuff's going to happen. Well, we'll see. I think if we avoid that, like any of the replacement teams or anything like that, then we're in the money and everyone's going to have a great time.

Last question. Second to last question. Okay, second to last question. I thought you were trying to get him out of there. You did the final four thing, and I thought that was the end of the segment. It was a good cue. You're right. Okay.

But they just keep coming. And he's a great guest, and we love having him on. Tate's the best. I will say, this is the biggest bummer of a tournament I have ever seen. Okay, yeah, because of Virginia Tech. Yeah, and Tate can't relate. Because while Carolina's had down years, can't relate.

Carolina can have a down year, but Duke has been a juggernaut, a powerhouse for a long time. This is our little brother who has no business being in this tournament. They're not going to win the whole thing, dude. I understand. It's going to make it even sweeter when they lose. Like, let them win two games. Let them win three games. Hey, you and I are totally different, bro.

Like, you just want to nip it in the bud right away. I want to enjoy the anguish. I want to make some money off them. If I had a viral load in my person, I would. I would drive to Blacksburg right now, respectfully, and try to get the Dayton Flyers in this tournament. You would? I would.

I like that. I mean, this would be like an NC State winning the ACCC and then going to the tournament and Carolina missing the tournament. You know what I mean? That's how I think this is for you. Like if NC State, if I were you guys and NC State was the hottest team in the ACC, we don't have a Jimmy V thing, though, like to factor into it. So this is a totally different situation.

Like these fuckers don't win anything outside football. They want a rassie. wrestling championship. They're not even. Yeah. They're not even. South of a 14 seat or 14 or lower. Give me the most likely upset.

Oh, like in the first round? First round. Oh, Arkansas. I think Arkansas to Vermont. I think that's the one that I look at. And that's a 413, I believe, yeah. So, yeah, I like Vermont's team a lot. You know, yes.

I've seen the catamouts play probably five or six games this year. They're a senior lading group. I think Arkansas having to fly to Buffalo, New York. I don't like the idea of that. I don't feel like the Arkansas fans are going to travel to that game for a first round game against those guys. So I could see that. Chattanooga is another team that is a sleeper team

that I could see shocking the world. And that would obviously really hurt my UCLA pick if that were to happen. But that could be something as well. But I think Vermont's the team that I look at. I'm saying I ride with the catamounts. Might watch four Chattanooga games too many there. The last one was special. How good is Iverson Molynar?

The Who's have a big one Wednesday night as I trail off hosting the three-seed Mississippi State Bulldogs to get North Texas the other slowest pace team in the country. That'd be worth it. That would be great.

The total would be around 90. Oh, under. I don't know if the Iverson Mollinar is a real question or not. He's just fucking depressed. I'm just in a bad spot. Garrison Brooks is on Mississippi State. There you go. Yeah.

I have a little North Carolina, Virginia. You know, so if you guys dominate Garrison Brooks, you can take some solace in that, you know, you got to stick it to North Carolina one last time. Well, no offense, but just by pure logic, I can guarantee you that Garrison Brooks went over, has gone over in his career against the University of Virginia. Absolutely. Yeah. You need a fan X, bro.

The national championship was a fan X for me. like it's still it's it hasn't run out of ammo for me and you are like I feel so good right now I wouldn't even sweat in the other night it has been but the tech part has changed this and I need to reexamine like my entire headspace because I it's I wake up and it's the first thing I think about that they won that tournament and they're in the big dance yeah it's a real problem yeah us have us being in the NIT that's fine okay great class coming in yeah Tony Bennett is going to yeah it's going to be a Kentucky situation where next year Virginia is going to be back to being a one two in the ACC and everyone's going to be like totally forgetting about this year

you know what I mean that's no question it says even more case in point like why worry right now because of that banner yeah fuck that banner dude they can't read there it is bang around blacksberg tip oh man beautiful all right do you want to do you want to escort him out Tate Yeah shoot we can find you everywhere What should we look for

The rest of the week Are you guys doing anything else Any more live shows? Yeah every single day Thursday Friday, Saturday Sunday We're going to be going live We will be live on our set So if anything happens in a game

You know crazy shot We're going to go right live from our YouTube The YouTube is Titus and Tate The podcast is Titus and Tate And we'll be here all March man That's it You're the man Thank you so much

Thanks Tate Good luck Good luck to your team that's in the tournament. Virginia will be back. For sure. Terminator. Big time vibes. See you. I'll give you one more name.

San Antonio Brinson. He plays for Texas A&M, Corpus Christi. Wrong school, buddy. And he's from Georgia. What the fuck? How about that for a great tournament name? Remy Martin.

And who did he say was the best tournament name? Didn't you say Kofi Coburn? Maybe Jelly Walker. He said Jelly Walker. Jelly Walker. That's too chalky. It's too chalky. We're going to find you better names by the next time we do this.

Al Durham. The fucking guy's name Al. That's a great name. Al. He's like 18. His name's Al? Yeah, Providence Friar. Best player on the Providence Friars.

Depends on the night, I guess with that team. Jaime Hakez, Johnny Juzang, Tiger Campbell. Those are all UCLA Bruns. Plenty. Have you filled out a bracket, by the way? Hawkes might make the All Vives team again. Yeah. Yep.

I have not filled out a bracket. It doesn't matter really. Well, yeah. Do you remember what March Madness was like before we could gamble and get that hit of dopamine? Approximately, I don't know, you do the math. How many games are there? 67 if there are 68 teams. Yeah.

That's the formula. So 67 times bang, bang, bang, bang, bang the app. I've never, I haven't had the app during a March Madness. I don't know what I will do. Yeah, it's going to be weird. I kind of like just to live and die with a bracket. I might keep monies and currency out of it. It gets super complicated because your bracket will contradict the smart play and vice versa.

At risk of us coming up with yet another bet regarding this tournament, I will reveal that I've got Gonzago winning this year's NCAA tournament. And therefore, Kingston getting a, oh, the old move your finger around a bracket like it's a globe and pick a team. Tennessee. You're the only 10 I see, which. brings me to winners and losers. Yeah. Read that first line right here.

Check it out, dog. You can type in your password later. Hold on. Don't read anything else. Sea long. See long is hot. So I walk in here and you don't have a hat on. Yeah, that's right.

There's flow. Your skin tone is like an olive, like a light olive. Yep. I was in Mexico. And your face has grown out a little bit, but not back to just bearded man. I thought, God damn. Thanks, Mike.

This guy is a hot guy. Thanks, man. Now I'm not saying. I accidentally shaved on vacation. Some would say, holy fuck, you look young or is he sick. Some would say, kind of looks like Howie Long. A little bit. A little bit.

So, a big winner, you, you've put a hat on now and you look more like a less attractive hillbilly. Yeah. but earlier today okay yeah look out there's a winner I'll give you one loser us

because we get to watch nine win coppin state get in that was the one thing I wanted they were so close we almost had a nine win team in the tournament I don't know how single digit teams

like have we had a bunch of those yeah it's happened a handful of times yeah like how often actually the worst record in CAA tournament history is 11 and 18 which has been done three times.

11 and 18, so 9 would have been the record. Yeah, Copton State could have been the first single digit. Were they in a final? They were in a final, I believe. Coppin State. And just two weeks ago on this show, we made fun of Coppin State athletics, and they almost...

Well, Michigan, shoot, damn near 500. Michigan's basically Coppin State. They're Coppin State. Okay, loser. Copen State of the West. I said, hey, you and I live in the same neighborhood. I said, Champions of the West. I said, hey, we got an email.

There's a cat that has been lost by one of our neighbors. Got that same email. There's a cat in the neighborhood. Well, we hope it's still in the neighborhood. And, well, what I mean to say is you didn't blink an eye. You didn't say anything. No, you didn't blink an eye. You can't lose a cat, dude.

I don't like cats, but I cannot imagine the feeling of losing a pet. So you can't lose cats. tease and peas out to this pet owner, this pet, I hope they reunite. But you don't, I mean, cats lose you. If you're driving home tonight and you see a cat on the side of one of our roads, you're going to keep on driving. No, I will, I will check in.

The cat's doing what it was intended to do, catching mice, staying the fuck away from my kids. So what are you going to? I will throw a cat, dude. Like, they just, my wife cannot stand cats. by the way and the up predictability of them and I'm very like no big deal but I also am not going to own a squirrel like I feel pretty agnostic about both things

but I do winners own a dog another one yeah another dog so loser that dog right because they're all losers being owned by you being owned by a human is I mean it's terrible business for a dog winner you for getting another dog

So the dog's name is Big Tony. Nice. Inspiration. Kiss the ring. No. Anthony Guy Bennett? No. No.

But that's, I can go with that one. Generally, I just wanted him to sound like a big Italian guy from New Jersey. So we have to say big every time? I'm going to be saying Big Tony a lot. You're not going to be expected to say Big Tony, but I would kiss the ring. Okay. Is there going to be a third dog on the way? Yeah, eventually, maybe.

But what kind of dog? another bulldog so we just got a bulldog we have a lab named Willie the finalist names and these were you know kid inspired but Python Venom how about a dog named Venom you go by then I was like hey guys you got a point Meg was like no but venom would be hey just dropping off venom for boarding you know like dropping off venom at the they call Venom back to the back room in the vet every time I've I've yeah you call the vet you got to say the dog's name you do that like on a monthly basis cutting off venom's balls this week we're looking to cut them off you like to short names that's an easy

boy from Mario cart oh roy's really good Roy's great that was the finalist Bruce Bruce was actually a semi-finalist oh wow yeah but we ended up on Tony so when you see him big Tony I would just prefer that and right now Tony's not sleeping at all can't I don't believe you're back to that. I mean, that's hardcore. How old? He's eight weeks. Surprise he didn't say Big Tony?

Yeah, right. Eight weeks, okay. So yeah, yeah, winner. Big Tony. Well, tease with you as well. I hope you get some restful nights. Thank you. I'm on four hours, no biggie.

Big prep guy. Well, yeah. So loser, me, so my heart hurts. Yeah. That's been covered on little sleep. So much so that I don't recall if we'd Discussed light savings. Lately?

Yeah. In the open. Have you had an electrolyte? Oh yeah, because my dad said, hi, Mike's. What does that mean? Like a gatorite.

A gatoride. It's salt and potassium. Is that essentially? And they called it. Matt nodded. Yeah. So if I sound like an idiot, somebody told me that that's,

now he's Googling it. Electrolite just means salt and potassium. Something like that. Why don't we just, why don't we just sprinkle a little salt on bananas? Loser. Electrolites. How do you?

expect us to take you if we don't know you. We don't know who you are. Winner, Randy Scott, who is the best anchor at ESPN. Shut out. Currently, here's what you need to know about Randy Scott. I know Randy Scott. Very sharp, very witty, a lot of references

that very few people get. He's entertaining himself. He's a throwback. He's a throwback. He's a throwback. Now, that being said, he's wrong. Well, I haven't heard the last show you you'll be sure to learn okay basically Spencer Hall did a state rankings he put Virginia 50th and of course the thing that brought us down our our weakest link was Northern Virginia and Randy Scott took took issue with me not defending Northern Virginia

and I have nothing to defend in Northern Virginia even less so when I looked it up it's even smaller than you think. Google Northern Virginia. It's fucking Alexandria. Randy wants to come on the show and talk about it. I say we talk about it. Randy would join the ranks of current and former Sports Center anchors.

Kenny Maine, Rich Eisen, Scott Van Pelt. Give Stanford Steeva nod on this here program. Now Marty Smith chimed in and he's going to talk about Southwest Virginia and Well, that's a mighty fine place. I'll give him the beauty of it. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Only issue being.

Blacksburg, Virginia. But other than that, Southwest Virginia is like God's country, dude. Well, that's what he said. We also say God's country here. Providence. Respect to Providence. The Friars. Jury's out on Nova until Randy can speak his peace. I want to show you this. This is Nova. What do you mean that's Nova? The red area is Nova. I mean, I know what Northern Virginia is. I mean, it's essentially Arlington.

Well, no. It's traffic. Well, yes. And it's defunct horse farms that are, spawning apartment complexes. That's what Northern Virginia is now. Middleburg's lovely. I don't think they would call themselves Northern Virginia. Yeah, I lived in Washington, D.C.

in Woodley Park. And there's a young dab in the middle of there. So you know this, yeah, but it's young people. It's young, wealthy, 20-somethings in that, like, Arlington area. They're bright-eyed and bushy and they're going to go be rich and sit in traffic.

Yeah. And cheer for the caps. and the Washington football team unironically. Or move back to the center of Virginia because... They don't like it so much. They don't like it, exactly. Northern Virginia ain't that cool. I got nothing against it.

Somebody was like, I thought you're going to say it was basically Maryland, which is what I said on the show. And I was... No offense, that's a compliment. And I cannot stand the University of Maryland, but Maryland is not that bad estate. And Virginia, look, we got an ocean.

that that way we got mountains this way yeah it can't be 50 let me properly defend it that's top half definitely top half but I get why Nova anchors us and Randy I'm sorry you'll have your day in court loser me Drew Gonzaga yeah that was bad yeah it's not gonna be good have you had any time to think about what you would get John Stockton maybe on your face Maybe the Blue Lives Matter blue stripe right through his face. I don't think he said anything about that. I just think it was a mass thing and I'm conflating the two, which sucks.

I got another loser. Jerry West. I don't know if you guys have seen this winning time show at all. I'm not yet, but you, yeah. Holy God. In episode two, the portrayal of Jerry West, it's like Adam, it's like Jerry West did something to Adam McKay's family. like the portrayal of him is out of control.

And inaccurate? Are we following the Jeff Pearlman blueprint? Or you think Adam's taking some liberties? Definitely takes some creative. You think so. Okay. Good luck Tennessee. They're going to win the whole thing.

Go who's. They've got a shot to make a run. In the tournament with the peach, whatever the fucking logo is. It's an apple. Apple. Yeah. I don't hang out a lot in the NIT.

We're going to be a one and done in the NIT. Why would you want to stick around? That's got to be a weird thing. How do guys feel about that, though? What do you mean? Being in the NIT, like getting up for the NIT. No, it's not great. Ben Hallen, Mississippi State has said they're not sure what to do with Ben

Allen moving forward in part because last year when they were in the NIT, he said this will be a great springboard for next year, and they're going to be at Jones Arena on Wednesday night facing UVA and the NIT. You don't want to be an NIT mainstay. No, just there one year. We'll be back. Boomerang.

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one of the Wizard of Oz's on this show. We're going to debate something that I think we're like a week late on, but it's the doors or wheels thing. I don't know who started this thing. Was it George Kittle or was somebody else? Because the first I saw it was Kittle. This whole thing started with Ryan Nixon posting a poll on Twitter last week. He did a great service because I really enjoyed jumping in this discussion. I'm team wheels. I thought about it. I have my doubts, but I am team wheels. I'm definitely wheels because you had a good point the other day that you take all the toy cars. Those doors don't open.

That's the difference. So by definition, it's not a door. A lot of people think, you know, four wheels. A lot of people think doors like heavy favorites, all the apartment buildings, cruise ships, all that type of shit. Right. Kingston, you doors. Call me Jim Morris.

Will you doors? Oh, yeah, doors. There's more doors in the world for sure. Reid, your team. Team doors. Okay. You're counting doors, team doors. Right.

I'm gonna go team doors as well. What? Because think about all the, all the houses, exterior doors, interior doors, interior doors, apartment buildings that have no wheels it's all doors so you think about i'll give you like motorcycles where there's it's all wheels no no doors but cars could have as many wheels as doors on you know it's a four-door sedan no question and you know if you're wise you have a spare so cars aren't the one up that you think that they are if you're on team wheels because usually it's canceled out by like fuck you could call the trunk a door cabinet door trunk yeah same well i mean same thing with the

covers like how many times has somebody told you hey can you open that cabinet door so that's all i'm saying i know oxford and miriam webster say that a cupboard is a door but i'm questioning that all i'm saying is hot wheels are the ultimate trump what cheap ass hot wheels were you were you playing with as a kid that didn't have doors that work all the the hot wheels man any matchbox car get the good ones they have the doors that open, you know, and close. There's plenty of cars that doors don't open. Think about all the toy 18 wheelers. You have all the doors open.

Team wheels wins. But they're refrigerator doors, right? Like you said, a cupboard isn't a drawer. Refrigerator door for sure. Microw. Nah, not microwave door. I don't know. But I'm just telling you, here's the Trump card guys.

Y'all have not been thinking about this. Gears. Clocks, watches, anything that needs a gear. I think the gears take it to the next level personally. That's just me. Gears is a really strong point. A counterpoint, like not all people have vehicles. However, almost all people have dwellings.

Right, but it's very first world to have a fuck ton of doors. I mean, every house probably has two doors. There might be more doors in northern Virginia than there are wheels in Virginia, all those apartment buildings. You're right about that. Also, doggy doors. That counts as two doors. God damn it, Reed.

Reed. What? That's true. You have an exterior door that has a doggie door on it. That's two doors. Roller blades, motherfuckers. I was going to say, what about bikes, rollerblades, scooters? Scooters, mopeds, motorcycles.

Because if you don't have a car, high chances you have other modes of transportation. If you live in a country where you might have less doors. Because the houses are smaller, you're more crowded. The fucking moped to human ratio is way higher, too. So, like, think about it. Two wheels on a moped, yeah. A motorcycle is the ultimate, like, it's the thing that's the tie that binds us as human beings, motorcycles. And no matter where you live in the world.

So I do think we get a boost from the motor, but God damn it, read, dog doors. And we're counting car doors, right? Yeah. Okay, so car doors are going to, every car is going to be negated by the car doors, right? No, well, yeah, but then we have some two door cars. There's some two door cars. So all these, yeah, there's two door cars. 18 wheelers.

Dotsons. I'm just saying, man. I took a picture of a pile of hot wheels cars the other night, many of them with non-operational, non-functioning doors. That pile weighed 30 pounds, dude. That's one single family home. Does the door have to be functional for it to count as a door? If they have an image of a door on a hot wheel, is that a door?

No, it has to function by the dictionary. And by the dictionary also, if you're sitting here like a gear is not a wheel, I used to be like you, but then I looked it up. What about doors and wheels in the metaverse? Are we counting the Metaverse doors and wheels? I don't think so, Reed, because I think they actually have to function. Miriam Webster has not updated her shit. She is centralized, not decentralized.

Yes. Got it. I think Miriam and Webster are both the last names of twigs. Yeah, I totally get it. I was being up to. So it was a big joke. So is this only measuring like, dictionary joke? You don't get enough of those.

Is this only measuring like doors and wheels on earth or is it everywhere? No, it's a good question. No, I think doors and wheels in existence and thank you for bringing up the Mars rover. I was more going to like, we don't really know.

There might be a whole like, planet full of just doors. Also, I mean, like there's doors between dimensions but I don't see any wheels in space. The space, yeah, the space station doesn't have any wheels, but it has a number of doors. I know, I knew you say that. That's why I brought up all the rovers out there, Reed.

It's a door. At least a couple I've heard of. The Doom doors? Summarines. They don't have any wheels. Again, it's a hatch. Yeah, you're right. It counts as a door.

It's a door. It is, maybe a door. All the boats in the world, no wheels. But the amount of boats in this world, like, is that really that significant of a bump-up compared to the hot wheels point that we brought up earlier? I bet there's more boats than mopeds. There's not more boats than hot wheels. Oh, there's a ton more boats than Hot Wheels.

Not every boat has a door read. What about every toy boat? Is a sliding door count? A lot of toy boats. Sliding doors count? Yes, sliding doors count. Door. Yeah, I'm having a hard time here, but gears are like...

If you're counting gears. Yeah, that's the whole thing, dude. That's the whole thing. I'll give it to you. Listen, I got a fucking watch. It's expensive. I don't have a lot of expensive things and watches and things like that. like guys I play with have like you know timepiece guys.

Like shout out Leroy Glover. But like I was in over my head the minute I heard how many gears were in the fucking watch. Like there's an army of gears in there. It's gears of war inside my watch. But then if you're getting real technical with the with the gears and there are a lot of gears, then isn't every any opening technically a door or a doorway? No, because by definition, if you check with Mrs. Miriam Webster. Door is a hinged sliding or revolving barrier at the entrance to a building room or vehicle or in the framework of a cupboard.

But I would push back. I would push back because no one's ever said like open the cabinet door. That's all I'm saying. And is a revolving door one door or is it like four? Because like, you know, I mean, you have. Yeah. No, revolving door is one door. It's one item, in my opinion.

Suffice to say, I think gears wins the day. That's my personal opinion. Read, are you swayed? Have you thought, if you changed your model? I'm not swayed. I think I presented very clear. Okay. So that's good. That's good. That's good. He's team doors. All right. Meg brought this one to my attention. And I want to make sure I have it right. So teeth or phalanges. Is phalanges the term for fingers and toes? Yep. And the wild card here is it's not so simple. Because at first I was like, Meg, there's fucking 30-something teeth in your mouth. Okay. There's a lot of kids without. teeth at any given time is this only humans right what's the age and old people without and old people without teeth so it's a great question like digits fingers and toes or teeth and

i don't think that one's going to be as catchy as doors or wheels but i think we think we got something here i think i think meg we just went viral let us know on socials let us know are there more we should just do definitely a segment like this at the end of every pod I'm going to start asking, yes, this is what I'm doing. This is like trolling in the ocean with a big net. At the end of every pod, copyright, we do an either-or thing, but we're going to go viral. Digits or teeth? Philangies.

All right, so we got a tweet from Natalie Jacobi. She said, which fries would you pick? I would pick number two. Now she has nine fries here. In sequential order, they are Chick-fil-A, McDonald's. She chose McDonald's. Arby's, Wendy's, Burger King,

five guys. What is that? Steak and Shake? Waterburger and Checkers. Now, I'm an Arby's guy with Chick-Flay close into number two. We don't ask Reed this question.

We know that. We already decided this. Mediocre. This is already decided. Read. punched a baby essentially last year by disrespecting desercating the Arby's curly fries which I may they might be my choice

right here you know it kind of depends on the mood though that I'm in they're all different if McDonald's is on if they were cooked perfectly McDonald's has to be up there I think they're the streakiest Wendy's is the most consistent they're the most consistently good the fries you're saying are

streaky at McDonald's and Reed I think has a great point. If I'm feeling healthy, if I'm on a health kick, I'm going Chick-fil-A. You know, there's some wraps there. It's like an oxymoron. The waffle fries. They're cooked in like peanut oil, not crack cocaine like McDonald's

and some of these other places. I think five guys is the most disappointing. Like you always go there and you're excited about five guys. Really? Read. Excuse me, Reed. I'm trying to park here. We're parking. You see us? We're parking in the same bar. Elaborate on that. Because they will fucking give you a pimple.

the five guys fries they will give you a pimple the size of northern virginia they really will yeah and a lot of grease damn near half of them are just like burn up little crisps but does it not count for the amount of fries you get in which you order i mean you get a lot but still like a small fry is netting at least enough for a family five no question it's a lot of calories in there in the five guys deal are you guys just going to ignore the actual winner you think it's wendy's You like Wendy's, huh? No, bro. Steak and shake.

Steak and shake. Yeah, a lot of steak and shake in St. Louis. Listen, I'm not slandering. I would eat the fuck out of any of these fries right now. I would have an orgy with these fries. Nine fries. Just mix them up. I feel like Burger King's name just gives them no chance.

They're not even claiming fry expert. They're only in Burger. And their fries have gotten a lot better. But they're, but yeah. I actually am not here for the Burger King fry slander. It was an awkward moment for me. I was like, am I a fucking idiot here? Because I kind of like Burger King fries, man.

I think they're very similar to Waterburgers. So take with that information what you want. Hey, Reed, you and I park in, same garage, five guys. Being overrated. We're back, bro. Since the Arby's thing, like, you know. Redemption. But over the last year, I missed you.

And it's good to have you back. Yes. I just don't like being limited to these nine. Because hands down, Hope Dining Hall at the University of Rhode Island. I'm the best fries on the face of the planet. I literally used to have to pour my drink on the fries so I could, so I'd stop beating them. Thank you for going off.

But then I would literally start like, oh man, okay, my drink didn't hit this fry, so let me eat it. Hey, dude, you made me think of, no, it's going to be hard to like boil these down, but like, I don't know where they come from, but fries hit different when they're shaped like smiley faces. A hundred percent, dude. No, good, dude. Oh, no. You don't like the smiley face fries. When I shout out to Mary Woodwood Elementary School, we used to have smiley fries every Friday. And for whatever reason, it might have been just accompanied with poor food.

They also taste like shit. So I just have a bad taste. It's the Irish in me. It's like more potato. Think about a smiley face. There's just a higher potato ratio. And that's nice. It's like a hash brown that makes you happy.

It's fair. Wait, is it bad that I don't know what a smiley face fry is? Is it just a fry that looks like a smile? Yeah, with this. Yeah, with a smile. But it's a whole smiley face. It's not just a smile. One time I was so excited about that motherfucker.

I took a picture of it and put it on Instagram. I was on vacation. I got like 70 likes. So it sounds like people were excited with me that smiley fries are just. No, I think they just think I'm random as fuck. But the fries are good. The people at home, tell us how you feel about the fries. All right, guys, we've got to do this more often.

We've got to get all the gang down. This is a quick peek behind the curtain. And we do. Shout out to Ralph. We kill it on social. So that's the guy. That's the Wizard of Oz there. So thanks for coming down, Ralph. Good to be here.

I love Charlottesville so far. Fucking what's not to love? It's not, it's southern enough in Virginia that you're not in northern Virginia. Y'all take care.