Green Light with Chris Long - Thanksgiving Football Mailbag! Kyle Long, Nate Collins, Beau Allen on Life & NFL
Episode Date: November 24, 2023Today on Green Light, it's a special mailbag episode with Chris, Kyle, Nate and Beau. We get into a few life and thought provoking questions with a few good memories surfacing from their answers. And ...then we get into some NFL questions. We hear about the fun that is had in an NFL locker room, what happens when opponents see each-other out in the wild in a city during the offseason, what you might say to a friend who is on another team before the game and some on field smack talk. Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy the mailbag! (2:08) - Relaying Chris, Macon and Stanford Steve's NFL Locks and Thursday Night Time Machine Picks (7:25) - Favorite Childhood Random Household Items (18:35) - What's the adult version of finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist? (25:25) - Elite NFL Trash Talk (34:45) - Interacting with NFL Opponents On and Off the Field Want to win a chance to watch the NFL Conference Championships with Chris Long and the Green Light crew in Studio J? Enter below: MILLERLITE.COM/GREENLIGHTSWEEPS This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Use the GameTime app for all your ticketing needs. Create an account and use code GREENLIGHT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download the GameTime app today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: (202) 991-0723 Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And then you can be nice to a guy the whole game.
There's another one.
Good cop, bad cop.
You play it with yourself.
So you're nice to the guy the whole game.
And then you just flip the switch on in the fourth quarter.
Like he, you know, like good rush dog.
Fuck, you mean good rush.
You know, like something like that?
And then all of a sudden the guy's like, he's in a blender.
Like, you know, he doesn't know what to expect.
I got all types of tactics for you guys.
He pushed me up for file one time.
My rookie year, I was standing near a pile and he like hip bump me.
Yeah.
Like, it wasn't like, malicious.
He just thought it was funny, like middle school, knock somebody over.
And I said, did you just do that?
And he goes, fuck yeah, I did.
Welcome to the Greenlight podcast.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Thank you all for joining.
We appreciate you.
Thanks for taking us in on a Friday.
We're having a blast here in Studio J.
Chris, Kyle, Dr. Fax, Bo is on for a little bit.
We do a big mailbag.
We ask a bunch of questions.
Some football related, some life related, all of them fun related.
We have a good time.
This will be an entertaining little show you can listen to.
There's some good questions that kick us off, some good life questions, some good nostalgic questions.
And then we get in some footballed memories.
Chris, Kyle, and Nate dive in on some great locker room stories, what they talked about on the field against opponents.
What happened when they saw an opponent out and about in a city?
With a cordial, do they hang out?
What happened?
We talk about all that.
We have a good time.
Please enjoy.
I'm going to give you a quick picks update.
Thursday night time machine and Chris
Macon and Stanford Steve's locks after the music
here and then we'll get it in the mailman. Enjoy.
So to kick things off for the show today, despite us not having
Stanford Steve on this week, we still
send in our NFL locks. Chris
Macon, Steve, all sitting in three picks a piece.
Last week, Steve had a big three and a
week, big three and oh, Giants plus 10, Eagles plus three and a half,
Niners minus 11 and a half. He's at 18 and 15 on the year.
Chris 16 and 15 and 2
and Macon is 16 and 17
after going 0 and 3.
This week the picks are as follows.
Macon goes first. He had
Falcons pick him. Patriots
minus 2 and a half. Saints
and Falcons under at 42.
Chris goes Carolina
and Tennessee under at 37,
San Francisco minus 6 and a half
and Eagles bills over at 47.
Steve goes
49ers also minus 6 and a half.
Broncos minus two and a half and Ravens minus three and a half.
Those are your NFL locks.
We'll see how they line up.
Thursday night time machine.
We still have Thursday night time machine picks.
We still got the Thanksgiving games in.
Kristen Macon both incorrectly picked the Packers Lions game.
It was a tough one.
Who would have seen Green Bay shelling the Lions in Detroit on Thanksgiving Day?
It was a surprise.
Dallas and Washington.
Now this is where it got a little weird.
both Chris and Macon picked Dallas 31 Washington 16 Thursday Night Time Machine. It's only happened twice in the Thursday Night Time Machine existence. Second time it's happened this year that Chris and Macon have picked the exact same score. So we went to pick the first half score as the tiebreaker. They both texted back 17 to 7 in favor of Dallas. So now it just got weird. It was ridiculous. We go to the second half total points. That was our tiebreaker two.
the tiebreaker. What is the, what will the second half total point be? Chris goes 21.
Macon says 20. Final score was Dallas 45, Washington 10 with 25 second half points.
And then we have San Francisco Seattle. Chris's pick, San Francisco 27, Seattle 17.
Macon says San Francisco 28, Seattle 22. So a wild day on the picks. A great thing.
Day for Greenlight. I hope it was great for you all too. Please enjoy today's episode. Again,
it is Chris, Kyle, Nate, and Bo, all having a good time in Studio Jay. Bo is in a great, great
lake house up in Minnesota. It's a little tough on the connection. So we had a little bit of an issue.
He was on for one question and then he had to bail. So we still got a couple good answers out of him.
But please enjoy this. We will catch you at our live show on Monday. Check out the Greenlight
YouTube channel for more information.
We'll see you then.
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Bo, why don't you go first on this one?
What is a random item found inside, outside your childhood home that wouldn't be found in homes today?
I mean, we had a rotary telephone when I was growing up.
So that's an easy one for me right there.
Rotary telephone.
Those are fun to play with.
They sound cool.
I kind of wish I had one on this desk, like a red phone.
We could pretend to call coaches every once in a while.
Trapolines with no nets.
Like now or by kids nowadays.
it's like your red phone would be great Kyle
I like that
like you pretend like your credit
no and the red phone's great
like maybe
you know like if kids have red phones
when they need to call their parents
you know
um diaper yeah
like
Wayland's on the red phone again
uh anyways
no I think that's on trampolines
because now these kids
they don't even know what we used to deal with
you get your leg stuck in the fucking hole in the trampoline
the coils were exposed
We didn't even have the thing over the coils.
Now we get stuck in the net, though, right?
Now they got bras on the coils and walls on the side.
It's safe.
It's like more dangerous to be a kid in a different way now,
but it's safer in like almost every way.
You know?
So mine's just kind of similar.
You get taken a lot more now.
Well, no, they take you on the internet.
They steal your identity.
Back in the day, they put you in the van.
They actually take you.
You want to hear about that?
My fucking girl's car got.
broken into and our baby bag got taken and our fresh new baby social security no and all the
stuff from the hospital was in the baby bag terrible because we were about to take that stuff to
go get her birth certificate from your place yeah and do you have video anything no damn damn bro
yeah so it's like the 1800s out here that's robbing you blonde yeah like stage that's a night
took a two-month-old's identity.
Yeah, what are you going to do with that?
That's fucked up, dude.
That's what I'm wondering.
You can do a lot.
I'm wondering, like, what can you do with it?
Get a house, open the lines of credit.
Like, it's a brand new person.
Yeah, every time you see a small house popping up in the neighborhood,
you're like, was it you?
Yeah, but you got to think about it like that.
Perfect credit.
So there's a lot of crazy things people can do with that.
That's crazy.
Yeah, but like we have everything on alert and we're getting new stuff in the mail.
It's just, it's just fucking a very, very big inconvenience.
Ugh.
The worst thing, the worst thing are the original footprints.
Like, we were able to get copies.
Like, they take copies, but like, my girl.
They took the footprints?
Bro, they're fucking, like, whoever did it, like, I had said before, I'm like,
yo, maybe they needed the diapers and whatever like that.
But after I realized, and I didn't realize for, like, we didn't realize,
for like four or five days.
We had this.
We were like, you know what?
Like, fuck it.
Like, it was just a bag.
We could replace everything.
And then we were like, except for the social security.
Exactly.
And then like, we were like, hey, like we were looking for the social security.
The counter.
This is a downer.
Now that I thought about it.
Exactly.
This is a downer.
We're talking about, go grab the bag.
I go, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, well, there's no more ice cream trucks.
And Nate's like, yeah, my baby got their social.
It's funny.
It's the second time I've heard about it.
Yeah, crazy.
I mean, I kind of took you there being like, yeah, these days it's not safe.
Yeah.
That's fucked up.
You know?
Yeah.
But the item I was going to say was, um, was, um, voicemail, the answer machine.
There's no answer machines and I just think about, um,
I think about, like, getting in trouble in school growing up.
Oh, yeah.
And, like, the teachers or the school, like, leaving, like, leaving a message.
Yeah.
And, like, like, luckily for me and my sister, we used to get home before our parents.
So you were able to, like, you were able to like.
Doctor the situation.
Yeah, like erase the message.
So it never gets through.
So, yeah, I got another good one.
I was the answer machine.
I didn't like my first answer.
It's not boring.
This is a little bit maybe in the same.
Same threat, but this is something we had, I feel like our, maybe people our age kind of all had these growing up.
That's not a thing anymore.
And that's like a computer room.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you got your computer room.
Oh, fuck yeah.
You hear the footsteps all of a sudden.
Home page ESPN.
You know what I mean?
Like more dads, I feel like in the 90s had to get caught up on their history.
Like in the early Netscape days because they didn't even know how to clear histories.
And it was treacherous to go in there and get in the beat lab because you had to go.
going there and it made noise.
It was like,
D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D.
You got your own little profile, though.
Everybody's a little dad.
No shade.
And you're typing, you're like big butts.
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what are you doing, honey?
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So Bo had to leave the podcast because the electronics on his end were causing an echo here
for the, for the listener.
It really sucks to Bo.
We haven't talked to Bo in a while.
I really want to talk to him about Saturday night.
I saw Wisconsin one and I turned on the TV and he's banging the drum.
Shout out to Facts of the King.
You're knocking off my co-host, man.
I know.
That's wild.
for some little bit of promo.
We didn't just move the drill, though.
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We tried to resuscitate our guy, Beau,
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He had a DNR bracelet on.
We needed an ambulance.
See, get me up out of here.
Okay.
All right, so it's time to pick this back up, Kyle.
You had something?
Yeah, we were talking about things in our house
that might not be at other people's houses
and in Montana and Howie can attest to this,
our younger brother, Howie.
We had a leverage sled in our garage
that was like on rails.
It was 10 yards long, and you'd have to fit up on it,
and you would drive it on about, like, the incline was like this.
So I would say, what is that, like a 20, you know,
15% 19 degree incline, and you'd load that thing up with weights,
and it was a bear to get up this ramp,
and then at the end you had to triple extend it and lock it out.
So whether you're a D-Lignment or you're an O-Lignment,
it's going to be beneficial.
And dad used to say, Howie, before you guys do anything today,
before you go in the lake, before you play golf,
Howie hits, or Kyle hits this thing, 20 times.
You have to sit in here and make sure that he hits it 20 times.
And Howie would be like, come on, bro, like eight more.
Dude, how about him?
How about I didn't get the leverage sled?
I could have been a guard.
I could have been a guard.
I think he came up after you got out of high school.
Right when I started getting into football.
Y'all got the good gear.
Outgrow was on you.
Yeah, I didn't have a leverage sled.
That's sick, though, because I never saw that.
But when I was a kid, dad did have his own sled.
like at the end of his career, we'd be in the backyard by the lake,
and he had this red sled.
I don't know how he got a red one.
Maybe he had like a hookup on another team.
Chiefs.
Yeah, Chiefs, that sort of thing.
Yeah, he probably had him make it red because he hates the Chiefs.
You imagine how he's like, you can pick your color code and everything.
That's funny.
Yeah.
The Chiefs have cutouts of the opposing D-Linmen on their trash cans.
Do they really?
So like when you go out there for a walkthrough on Saturday.
Yeah, if I'm a D-Linemen,
They have the five trash cans out there, and it's not like the guy's trash.
Is it his roster picture?
Chris, emphasize this, though.
Every team uses trash cans for like.
Yeah, no question.
It's just that you guys put their faces on the trash can.
So it would be like, if it was the Bears, it would be like,
Bobby Massey next to Kyle Long and Cody White here.
So it's not personal because Julius Peppers would be on the trash can.
Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, just like anybody else.
But dad used to hit this leverage sled now.
It's it.
And he used to just flip it over and hit it and flip it over.
And I'd be trying to, like, play a little game in the backyard.
And it was so distracting, dude.
Like, what is he doing over there?
Yeah, I'm like, gee, some job.
But yeah, no, no, that's a good one, Kyle.
That's a good one.
What's the adult version of finding out Santa Claus doesn't exist?
Finding out that the cash cab does casting calls.
Oh, so they're not real.
And they're not just picking up random people.
No way.
Yeah.
It's playing.
Yeah, like you need a ride?
What's the tech?
Thailand, Bangkok.
So they're all smart?
They're all supposed to be smart?
They're all like Jeopardy people?
I'm guessing, I'm guessing, yeah.
Fantasy football isn't fun.
Either smart or really dumb.
Stay there for a second.
You don't think fantasy football is fun.
And honestly, I'm just going to say this,
and I'll probably get killed for saying it.
I agree with you.
Because once you win the league,
and making decided last year.
It's like once you win the league, it's like, okay, I've done it.
But also preface this, preface this with the topic.
The gambling thing.
Preface this with the topic here, Reed, because I'm saying,
fantasy football's no fun when you're an adult.
It's like, you know, becoming an adult.
There's a lot of things.
You don't want to have to worry about Austin Eccler's ankle on a Wednesday.
You know what I mean?
You don't worry about having to set your lineup.
You're toting your kids around on a Sunday morning or Saturday.
My wife handles the fantasy thing.
She's been great, but we dealt with injuries.
DeMar Hamlin, we were in the Super Bowl.
last year.
Yeah.
And the game canceled.
Yeah.
So that was like,
my experiences are
injuries and injuries.
If you are a free agent right now,
which team would you sign up?
With the Niners.
Yeah, what's their guard situation?
There's room for the big fella, I think.
Hmm, for me.
Chiefs?
I don't want to play that long,
like into the, you know,
like maybe the Panthers.
Or somebody like,
that, or the bucks.
Who would be fun to play for, but it's not going to win, get into the playoffs?
Okay.
What if you went to the, Raiders?
What if you went to the Chargers?
You need to play opposite Max.
I know, but I can't play on the right.
I'd do it for him.
For Max, you could.
You'd be like, hey, Max.
Let's do.
What if you went to the Chargers and just let a,
they need it?
They're down a white D-N.
They are down a white D-N.
With a sprained foot.
That building right now,
the buttholes are tight.
And you and Staley would get on great after your monologue.
You know, how about the,
and I can't just say the Eagles,
because they're too good and the whole thing.
You know, Buffalo Bills, man.
I always wanted to feel what it was like playing in that stadium.
Go there.
Be a situational pass rusher.
Leonard Floyd.
Leonard Floyd.
Great guy.
You could jump on some tables.
They need shorter ends.
They have too many tall ends.
They need a shorter end.
You got to mix it up.
It's like Staley, what are you?
Nate, what about you?
I'm going back to
Dubol.
I can go back to Duval too.
Let's go to it together.
I'll see you guys in the Super Bowl.
Okay.
Imagine you died
and your significant other starts dating
a former teammate of yours that is
a QB, which QB would you want it to be?
Nick Folds off the board.
I'm off the board as well.
Kyle's off the board too.
Kyle's opted out of that.
question but you know like you can't have it be a guy that's taller more good looking and so like
tom Brady off the board not why why do you feel that way you want you want it to be you don't want
like you don't want you want a homely looking motherfuckerucker to take your place what like i need somebody
homely it's just like his at stake take he just doesn't want people to be happy yeah you know what some
people i want to be happy and i want my wife to be happy i want her to be in it for the right
Well, no, but she might not be into the looks.
You know, I don't want to be, like, haunting her and, like, looking at Tom Brady and his, in his boxers walking around my house.
Nah.
Nah.
Okay, Jimmy Garoppelow?
Nah.
No.
Sorry, Jimmy.
And I knew Jimmy when he's in Vegas now, but I've seen him hanging out with some porn stars, and he might have some new tricks up his sleeve.
It can't be Jimmy.
What about a specialist?
Sam Bradford's a good one.
Yeah.
Because, you know, he's a handsome guy.
He can float a lot of trips.
And if I wanted my wife to get a divorce in that situation,
it's probably going to happen because Meg knows how to push his buttons.
Like, we know Sam pretty well.
So I feel like that would be over quick.
Kelling Clemens is perfect.
Kellen Clemens is perfect.
I sign the paperwork right now in the event that I meet my demise, Kyle.
And Kellen Clemens is the guy.
So when I seen this question, I asked.
You could say things.
you just, look, it's not going to be so afraid to talk in this segment.
I have a, I haven't, I'm not afraid to talk.
No, I don't mean it that way.
Nobody's scared, Kyle.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to hear you.
So when I see, when I see this question, I, like, I asked my girl.
Like, I told her the question.
I asked her, I go, if I die.
Look up Blaine Gabbard, Eli Manning, Jay Cutler.
and then
I said Mike Strauss
Jamil Sewell and Mark Verica
and I was like in a situation
if I pass away
which one
of those like would be your choice
read their bios too
and more than look
and so she chose
she chose Blaine Gabbert
yeah good looking guy
yeah but he could rescue
but here's the funny thing
like when Kyle
these are key points but look so
me and Kyle were talking about this before the show.
And when Kyle came in, like, we're brainstorming.
We're talking about this question.
And he's saying quarterback's names.
And then he says Josh McCowan.
And I go, oh, I forgot him.
So I set my girl a text and I go, oh, I forgot to put this name in there, Josh McAllen.
And then she quickly responds back, oh, him.
And he doesn't watch porn.
Oh, yeah, you got to feel good about that.
You got to feel good about that.
be satisfied.
Yeah.
Unless he starts landing in St. Louis on the reg.
On accident.
Yeah.
Then you would know.
Rams, I'm playing here anymore.
Oh, shucks.
But McCown's a good guy.
He's a great guy.
He is a great guy.
He's awesome.
I like that.
And he's super athletic.
He can dunk.
People don't know that, but he can do that.
He can dunk all kind of ways.
I think he's one of those guys that can play anything.
Okay.
You know, now you're in that thing.
What?
He's the segment now.
I said you could play anything.
No, it's true.
Ever heard any trash talk on the field that's so good it distracted you?
I didn't have anything.
Oh, man.
I just remember Chris trying to be so blatantly overt.
What was I doing?
I don't remember what, you know, that people say,
I don't remember what they said to me,
but I remember how it made me feel.
In the moment, I remember Chris trying to make me feel the pressure of the moment.
Was I?
Down the goal line, like third down.
In St. Louis, I believe.
Things were getting a little out of hand.
That whole defense was talking shit.
And you were the guy standing up.
I remember you came off the ball.
You were standing up talking shit.
Really?
Yeah, right before when we just broke the huddle,
we're going up to the line of scrimmage,
and what do I see?
I see you and all your buddies.
Just drawing.
Standing up.
Nobody has their hands on the ground yet.
They're just waiting to see what we're doing.
Just staring at you.
Talking shit, screaming shit.
Really?
Yeah, I remember.
It was an early month.
It's like PTSD type of.
Really?
Kyle, I didn't mean to do that.
But you did try to kill my friend.
Then the whole tone of the game changed.
So in college.
He did.
As usual.
In college, lining up next to Denzel Burrell, outside linebacker.
Me and Denzel, we used to make up a fake name for the tackle and guard we were going
against, and it would just be a random name.
It would be like Cletus or like something like that.
And we would just call it.
Eocletus, like, what are you doing?
Are they just frustrated?
Are they just confused?
It's either they get confused.
Some guys, if they're smart, they'll just, like, laugh it off and they'll play along with it.
He's playing chess.
I'm like, what are we doing here?
People are saying all types of personal shit.
He's just calling you Bob when your name's John.
But also, too, if an old lineman, if an old lineman, your old lineman jumps off sides on account, like, that was, like, the best time to just be like, oh.
Come on.
Like, oh, wait until you get to the sideline, your coach is furious.
And then someone like Kyle will be sitting there like, fuck you.
Yeah, that's always good.
Whenever you're like, you add salt to the wound after a penalty.
Yeah.
Like, oh, that's going to cost you.
This looks less doable now.
You know, a real tactic that was always fun was like try to turn you guys against each other.
Yeah.
So like somebody's getting beat a lot.
And I'd be walking by and like buddy buddy with a guy.
And then I'd be like, yeah, but this motherfucker.
Bro.
You know?
and let him hear it because even if the guy,
even if the guy doesn't hear the other guy's like,
hey, we're not doing all that.
Like that's my guy.
He thinks we're having a conversation about him.
So I just like at the tail end, if it was you, Kyle,
I'd walk by Bushrod and be like,
yo, Bush, what's up, bro?
Like, good to see you.
And man, keep balling this motherfucker.
And you'd be like, what?
Yeah.
What are they saying about me?
And it's a real, it's a real mind fuck.
What did you say on Bussing that one time?
You said you talked to Will Compton?
or I mean Taylor won
and it was something about the other tackle.
Yeah, and here's the thing.
I didn't play that well that game.
It's not like I beat Jack Conklin.
Right, right, right.
But I was old as shit of running in cement.
But when I did get there, I just drilled,
I guess it was Tannahill.
And I know it was Marriota, actually.
This is how long ago it was.
Yeah, how could you?
Yeah, and Taylor's getting up
and I'm like, I'm going to be back here all day.
He's having a hard time.
You know, something like that, which in reality, he's not.
But it's just the...
Yeah.
It's just because he doesn't know.
Right.
And then, you know, it's like, Taylor, you good over there?
Like talking to Jack Conklin.
And he's like, what the fuck you mean?
I'm good.
I'm blocking him all day.
Like, it might be true, but mind getting me.
I hate that.
Or the best is, I've done this to Kyle, like, definitely a couple of times on the Bears.
And when he first got there, he would be doing something wrong.
And guys, I mean, in practice, you could do this.
But Garza would kind of be like, Kyle, like, get down.
And then at that moment, you.
you're like, like you mimic Garza and be like, Kyle!
I can hear it now.
That'll make you want to like choke someone.
All the guys on the defensive side line.
Kyle will have that look like he will want to Bart Simpson choke somebody.
Like I already know, motherfucker.
You know how it is for D. Lyman.
Those little things get you through practice, though.
Like just those little things.
And then you can be nice to a guy the whole game.
There's another one.
Good cop, bad cop.
You play it with yourself.
So you're nice to the guy the whole game.
And then you just flip the switch.
which on in the fourth quarter.
Like he, you know, like good rush dog.
Fuck, you mean good rush.
You know, like something like that?
And then all of a sudden the guy's like,
geez, he's in a blender.
Like, you know, he doesn't know what to expect.
I got all types of tactics to you guys.
He pushed me up a pile one time.
My rookie year, I was standing near a pile
and he like hip-bumped me.
Yeah.
Like, it wasn't like malicious.
He just thought it was funny.
Like middle school and knock somebody over.
And I said, did you just do that?
And he goes, fuck yeah, I did.
That was a rookie.
That was another welcome to the rookie.
James tripped me.
Going back to the huddle, they hit like a 25-yard game,
and we're jogging down the field next to each other.
And I didn't realize he was next to me.
And I hit the deck, and I'm like, somebody fucking tripped me.
I'm going to get up and kill this motherfucker.
And I turn around and James is laughing.
And I'm like, I can't even be mad, bro.
Like, he's just so funny to me, bro.
The all-time petty thing to do is taking someone's towel.
Like you take like an old linens
Like for me like a center
Like center usually has one for the quarterback
So if you can find a way to snatch that
It's just it's just annoying enough
That it's like it makes that person want to chase after you
But then you just think about it
And you're just like fuck you
Here's another one Monday Monday
You motherfuckers
As smart as you are
With all the meeting time you have
And the whole thing
Every football team since the dawn of time
has called on one Monday.
And like, it's never a bluff.
It's always Monday.
Here comes the ball.
It's a confirmation.
Like, we're on Monday, right?
Yes.
It's Monday question mark.
If you're ever listening to a game, I heard, like, in this, a couple weeks ago,
I thought I heard Zach Wilson on Mike being like, Monday.
And I'm like, you tell me, motherfucker.
But, you know, I used to be down there being like, Monday, Monday.
The best is, the best is with O. Lyman, you get an O'Lyman.
Almost 90% of the time I ever jumped to snap, it was because.
was that tackle or that guard on my side had forgotten the snap count from the huddle to the walk over.
And that person leans over and asks him, what's the snap count?
And then you can read lips when it's on one or two.
It's so true.
And you can also read lips in the huddle, too, if you stand in the right place.
Yes, because the quarterback is facing you.
My dad, he was on NFL films or something.
They're doing one of these, like, and you've seen this clip, but he was like,
I thought it was funny at the time.
You know, a million-dollar smile.
Fucking GI Joe.
And he's like, you know,
they weren't doing a very good job of blocking me.
So I didn't think they deserved water.
But I went to their huddle,
and I took their water.
I just started drinking their water right in front of.
Their water boy gave me a bottle.
But hard-nosed Howie is not without a sense of humor.
Take, for example, the time he invaded the Seattle Seahawks offensive huddle
and walked off with their water bottle.
That was a bit frustrated.
and our water boys are like, you know, the rest of the team, they're just, you know,
they were probably talking to someone up in the stands during the timeout,
and we hadn't gotten any water out.
So I walked into their huddle and took their water from their water point and said, you know,
give me that bottle.
They really don't deserve it.
They hadn't done anything today.
You know, it was all in a joke, really.
You know, I mean, they kind of liked it.
And, I mean, like, just imagining, like, the gall of a defensive lineman to walk into your huddle and drink your water.
I would slap that.
I would slap that.
They weren't slapping him.
Nobody slapped.
They were slapping it in the end with a violent end.
It's like Miles Garrett picking up the helmet this week and they're like, sir, can you please?
And they're like, we have to joke about this.
But you did almost kill my teammate.
You were talking about throwing towels.
Did you guys ever throw a shoe?
You know, like get out of here?
Yeah, honestly.
The fucking, I'll tell you, throws a shoe besides odd job, is the, didn't the guy throw a shoe at George Bush?
Yeah.
He ain't ducted.
Yeah.
I've definitely.
I've definitely like a jerk in a basketball game when like a guy comes off though.
When a guy's shoe like fell off, I've definitely like,
Yeah, you got thrown out of the crowd.
Went out of my way to toss it.
Give someone a souvenir.
This is from MT. Great.
How will you celebrate your 81st birthday?
We'll leave the south of France, my wife and I and my family in a very large helicopter,
Logan Roy style.
We'll travel to, from our hotel.
to our yacht,
um, near, somewhere near,
hmm, where are we going to be from the 801st?
I get so confused.
There's so many,
I know, you can be in, uh,
well,
you're in the south of France.
You go to the north of France.
Yeah, well,
we're actually going to the Alps in our helicopter.
Okay.
We're going to ski because my birthday's on,
in December.
You're going to be skiing at 81?
We're going to ski at 81 because I'm going to have neural ink.
You're going to have, like,
you're going to have special feet.
Pastorious legs.
And I'm going to be murdering the slopes.
What was your favorite all?
off-field moment in the cities you played in?
Favorite off-field moment in the cities that I played in.
Let me think about this for a second.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Good question.
Probably one of the Cubs won the World Series in 2016.
Getting to experience the city of Chicago
with a winning team outside of the Blackhawks or the Bulls.
Obviously, that drought was crazy,
but the run there towards the end was wild,
and we weren't playing very well,
so it was nice to have a team
cheering people up in Chicago.
Yeah, that had to be crazy.
World Series.
Because I remember in St. Louis,
when they won the World Series,
it was like all of a sudden people came to our game
because they were, like, getting recognized at half.
And I was like, man, it's loud today.
What the fuck happened?
Oh, Cardinals won the World Series.
Jim Edmonds is here.
Yeah, there's that.
I mean, it's mostly about going out and getting drunk when you can.
It's about getting out in the streets
and living a little bit in the city.
You know, like, I know you probably had your spots.
Rubbing elbows with some of the loks?
I met Albert Pujols.
Oh, here's one, throwing the first pitch out in St. Louis as a rookie
and almost hitting a World War II veteran.
Do you know about this?
No.
You really don't know about this?
Kyle, they had me throw the first pitch out at, like, a Cardinals game.
And you know it's like a big deal there.
It's like going to a Cubs game.
It's hard to do.
Yeah, and I'm worried.
I'm, like, warming up in the bullpen.
And the catcher's like, I'm like, any advice.
And he's like, yeah, just don't.
skip it, bro. And I'm like, I won't skip it.
So I take a full wind up.
You know, I'm like hyping the crowd up a little bit. I'm nervous.
I'm wearing like a baggy white t-shirt, fucking ill-fitting clothes of 2008.
And I sailed the thing, 74, 77 miles an hour.
And they were recognizing these veterans before the pitch.
And I realized this the ball is like halfway to the plate that it's not going to the
catcher. And there's a guy with gray hair standing.
Was it 50 cent bad?
It was, no, it was more respectable.
because I drilled it, but over the guy's head,
hits the backstop, rolls all the way to first.
It just dies out in the bass path, like solo, tight shot.
People were like, oh, you know when you hear a crowd go, oh.
Like when somebody fucks up a drive all the door.
It's like, ooh.
Oh.
I was like, this is a good start.
Strip clubs were pretty good in St. Louis.
strip clubs
because it was all that was open
and Meg knows I was going
Yeah it's just funny
She was fine with it
East St. Louis
Is St. Louis.
Did I ever take you to an East St. Louis spot?
Did I ever take you to an East St. Louis spot?
Ski.
That's where she's from.
You got to look up bottoms up and the pink slip.
We used to go over there
And the nice thing about like outside of a hustler
Was it six in the morning
You get a good hot dog.
Glizzy.
You get a good glizzy in the parking line.
mission. So you go to the pepper lounge until 3 a.m. From 3.30 to 5.30 until the sun comes up,
you eat you glizzy. You get in your yellow cab, because back in my day, that's what we had,
and you drive past the big Anheiser bush. No offense. They wear yellow. Yeah, right. You drive past
the big Anheiser-Busch sign, you know, on 64, the people in St. Louis, no, but that big sign
when you drive through the city. It's 64? And the sun's coming up. Yeah, it's 64.
Do you feel like you're at home? Yeah, kind of. Funny locker room fights.
Do you have any funny ones that don't involve you, too?
I once saw a guy pour water on a guy in a stall, two offensive linemen.
They were playing with each other.
Not like that, but they were trying to, like, I don't know, you guys are weird.
We are.
And the guy's shitting, and the guy pours water in there, and he's chasing the guy around the facility with toilet paper.
Stuff through his butt.
He's trying to kill the guy.
He's running through the halls.
There's the meaty relations people.
You guys got duky in his...
Remember?
Remember, that's a neck?
Oh.
That's a neck.
That's a neck.
That started a lot of fights in locker.
Yo.
I didn't deserve that neck.
And then it would be like, bough.
Yeah, people put a little extra English on those.
Yeah, but also just like with the quantity of necks.
Oh, that's a neck.
Like, that's not a neck.
It's like, hey, just come get your neck.
Yeah.
I used to remember.
You used to get people to almost fight him
because we had a little hoop in the, in the,
in the locker room, like above the door.
Yeah.
And people would come out of the shower and he'd be naked and he'd be like,
come post me up, dog.
Come on, let's see what you got.
He'd like, he'd like drivel the little ball and like kind of like make contact
with him.
And, you know, some people don't like that shit.
Red flag.
Yeah.
Don't touch me when you're fucking making.
I remember as a rookie when I got to Jacksonville, it was probably like third or fourth week
I was there.
And I was like feeling comfortable.
and like older guys that were there, pot roast,
certain guys, like, I was already carrying their pads,
like still, like, with the whole rookie thing,
I'm the new guy, whatever it may be.
And one day after the practice, Jeremy Mincy,
he had said something to me and it was hot.
And I, like, I was just like, you know what?
I was like, whatever, dude.
I was like, like, leave me, like, just leave me to fuck alone.
And I just started walking, like, walking away.
And then all of a sudden you hear, like,
you know the sound of pads rumbling?
Mm-hmm.
he was like charging.
He was charging at me.
Full speed.
It was just like,
you fucking rookie,
what you say?
It was hot.
It was good that he prefaced it with.
It was hot.
But like I end up moving out the way
and like everyone like pot roast and dues like a liege dozeable.
Like everyone's laughing and like after the fact we all end up laughing like mincee like he's
one of our guys.
And I just think about like one of the main.
reason why that happened was, bro, it used to be so, it used to be too hot. You used to practice
and you'd be so hot. By the end of practice, when you're drained, like anything will
fucking make you sad. Niceest guy in the world, Travis Kelsey fights every time it's summer and they
make them play football. Yeah. Bro, when it's hot and humid, that shit has taken out of you.
Fight somebody. He can't get... I was the same way. I was good for a training camp fight every year.
Was Travis throwing hands out there? No, but like he's, he's 35, 34, and he's out there getting
hit every single plan. Also, receivers
and tight ends especially. He's like, this doesn't fucking count.
Could not be punching each other. They always
punch each other in the face mask.
And like, those are your money makers, man.
I don't want Travis Kelsey fighting.
It's the D-Line-O-line fights that are
sketchy and bad for business and training camp
because bodies go flying. I remember me and
Akeem Hicks used to like... Yeah, there's a lot of big weight.
It would be like two
literal guerrillas fighting over
three square yards.
And, I mean, at the end of every
rep, it's somebody trying to hip-toss.
the other guy and what's on the receiving end of a hip toss,
often it's another teammate.
It's a quarterback,
another teammate.
In our case, it would be like me.
It would be a quarterback if Akeem pushes me back
or a linebacker gets rolled up on.
And it happened a number of times,
and we got lucky without guys getting hurt.
But that is a bad problem with fights in practice.
Guys getting hurt.
Or, no, I agree with you.
Or you punch your new quarterback in the mouth,
pow.
You've done that?
No, no, no, no, no.
Like, what happened to me?
I was like, did I do that?
Well, like, think about Gino got, like, knocked out.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Crazy.
Yeah, he was a rookie, right?
Punch a quarterback.
But a rookie quarterback, though?
Things you can't punch.
Babies, quarterbacks, the Pope.
NFTs.
Women, for sure.
Can't punch a ballot anymore.
No.
What?
The other day I saw on Twitter, Christian McCaffrey was saying he was walking down the street.
in New York.
And he said he could be pretty,
he could blend in pretty well.
He'd throw a hat and a hoodie on,
no one would recognize him.
But someone was driving down in a car and just yell,
C-Mack!
C-Mack, what up?
And it was Travis Kelsey.
Who is a teammate that you had that you were excited to,
you would go adventure with?
You'd go out with.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is not a teammate that I'll give you,
but the situation you just presented me
reminded me of a time I was in downtown Chicago.
And oftentimes the Packers would come down to Chicago
on their by weeks or like, you know, if they had a long weekend,
they would come party in Chicago.
And, you know, the Packers, they were beating us.
So they didn't have to come check in when they were staying in Chicago.
You know, they talked to A-Rod, and he was probably like, go ahead.
And one night I was walking down the road.
I was walking down in Chicago down the street.
And I probably had, like, a couple beers in me,
and I was unaware of my surroundings.
And I got fucking speared in the back.
And my neck whiplashed.
And to this day, my neck still hurts on it.
I think it's this motherfucker.
fall and I love him to death, but he's my answer, David Bakhtiari.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
And when I turned around and he was so happy to see me, and it was him and Mike Daniels,
that's another guy that's on my house.
Oh, yeah, he's the man.
These are Packers.
I'm naming Packers.
Yeah.
Because I'm going outside of my jurisdiction, but, man.
When you think about, like, running into seeing a guy in the wild.
And being like, I fucking love this guy.
Yeah, and like, you know, there's been fights where, like, Joey Porter fought a guy
in a casino, you know, off the field, like, because it was an indivision rivalry.
but like remember Brenno
Giacomini?
Yeah
Me and him used to just
It was like a fist fight
Every game
And I finally saw him in the wild
And we got shit face for 30 minutes
And like a nightclub
We could barely hear each other
It's like therapy though
But it was cool
It was like you know like hey
You know we're all right
And Vernon Davis
I got to hang with him
We used to go neck to neck
All game long
You guys just did crunches
Yeah no
We'd just be like boom boom the whole game
And then you know
I saw him at Robert Quinn's wedding
And it was like the best thing ever
We were on the shuttle together and the whole thing.
So it's cool when you run into guys that you try to kill on Sundays.
Yeah.
And it's all good.
Or guys that you respect from around the league that play a position that you don't really intermingle with.
So like there's safeties or corners that I like or there's a receiver that I really enjoy.
If you get a chance to meet them and they're awesome.
I'm at CBS Sports.
We've talked about this a lot.
But Caleb Williams came in after he won the Hizman last year.
And I got to meet Caleb Williams.
I introduced myself.
first thing he said he goes
I know who the fuck you are
and I was like
oh that's cool
these things are awesome
football is great
football is great
it's a big community
the um
the best
another drunk night
um
I forgot well
Antonio Pierce one time
I drank a deleted a bunch of beers
with AP
before he was a head coach
back when I was like a rookie
or second year
and Fred Robbins was my guy
so I hung out with him
and tuck and all those guys
at the Super Bowl
and it was like meeting heroes
so I'm almost positive
I got to drink
when Tony Saragusa got rest of soul one night.
Yeah, I think I got the drink with Antonio Pearson Clint one time.
Yeah, he's a great guy to delete beers with.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's why he's going to be a great head coach.
There was them.
Oh, God, I'm thinking about like, you know when you get to like meet somebody in the industry
out in a random night and you guys click and you're like, yeah, we're like-minded, the whole thing.
What about meeting someone from another team on the field, whether it's an old college team,
teammate, do you go up to them right away?
Is that some of you're seeking out?
Yeah, usually.
Before the game, you see them,
and then obviously if you have your moment
during the game, if you happen to bump into something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's usually before and after the game.
During the game, when you're between those lines,
there's an understanding.
I got tight with AJ Feely when I was in St. Louis.
I love him.
He's just, like, so dry.
He's like that vet.
He's the smart quarterback.
And I like to hang out with the quarterbacks, man.
They're bright guys.
They're just bright guys, man.
It's like kind of a no-no to like, but me and Sam were tight, dude.
Like me and Sam would go everywhere together and people would be like, why would you ever be hanging out?
It was because like, dude, I spend all day in a daycare center in the D-Ly room.
I can any time.
It's wood shop over there.
Yeah.
Like I like to, you know, and they got different interests and shit and they're all rich so they can do whatever.
You know, like there's no place that Sam's like, we can't go there.
Yeah.
You know, so that's a good question, Reed.
Do you guys miss football this time of year?
Yeah.
How much?
A lot.
Really?
Like, I don't know this about you.
Like, I imagine you probably do miss it.
I just love football.
Yeah.
I love everything about it.
You say you hate lifting and meetings and fucking, and I love all of it.
Yeah, but you, I don't want to go back to it.
You didn't lift all the time.
I love it.
For me, it was like existential, survival for you.
It was like, ah, this is fun.
I'm going to move this heavy thing.
It's like purpose.
No, it's not that.
It's like purpose.
I mean, you're building your armor, you're trying to retain your armor.
You get to build your armor all straight.
You build the tank in the spring.
Mr. Perks.
And the summer.
And then you try to retain that muscle and try to slow the rate of attrition on your health.
And you're just trying to keep the vibes up, man.
It's all about the, you got to have glue guys, vibe guys in the locker.
I think I was one of those guys.
Yeah, you were a vibe guy.
And also, when I was healthy, I enjoyed going out there and doing my job at a high level.
And I took pride in that.
I took pride in getting daps and hugs and love from the receipts.
and the running backs and getting respected in the meetings.
You don't get respected at home when you clean the fuck out of those dishes and you do a damn good job.
No, nobody...
But they're not going to hold a meeting on Monday and point the laser at you.
No, yeah, there's no...
So I kind of need that at a boy.
You need the classic O-Lyman infantrymen, infantrymen.
And you need the feedback.
I need a medal ceremony every once in a while.
Yeah, you need, you need Kate to like have a projector drop down on Monday and be like...
I need like, when I walk out of work on Sunday, when we walk out of here, it would be like...
The breakdown, the post game of our pre-referment.
Yeah.
The post game of our Monday show.
So it's not the games so much.
Yeah, but it was the way that I was able to scratch that it.
Yeah, I just missed the games.
I just missed the games.
The games gave me fear.
I watched these guys, the games is like, that was it, man.
And, you know, like, I understand O'Lyman would have to have a different mentality.
Like, I've talked to Lane about this.
Lane has been real outward about his, like, mental health and shit.
And just, like, his mindset going to the game, it sounds chaotic.
Fear and anxiety.
And for us, it was like,
Oh, I get to play Lotto again this play.
Yeah, if you fucking get a sack.
But on y'all's side of it, too, though,
there's so many games I played in
where they were like, this guy blocked you.
And it's because the ball was out,
or you beat him like a dog five, seven times.
So that goes both ways.
You know, you can walk out of a game and be like,
but I guess the bottom line is the game was the,
that's when I'm watching,
like when I'm watching meaningful football
and it's cold out.
Meaningful football.
And, you know, you think about like the bus ride
to the,
to the airport, the plane ride home.
Like all that shit was so fun.
That's what you lived for,
those little moments,
and you don't get those in today's everyday life.
Today, now is like this,
but football was like, yeah,
the highs were high and the lows were low,
but the highs were so high, dude.
And the lows, man.
They were so low.
That's the thing.
When people say, do you miss football?
Are you willing to deal with the lows?
That's it, and I'm not.
So that's why you're like,
I could say I miss it,
but that's such an easy.
I love waking up early and seeing the sunrise and in the fall on the way to work.
And you get your hot cup of coffee right when you walk in the facility.
You do your nods and your hello's to the people that you see every day.
You go and you get your coffee just how you like it.
It's piping hot.
There's breakfast there laid out for you.
You know that you got a team meeting coming up.
You see your boys strolling into the locker room probably about 740, 745.
And then the guys that you know are going to roll in right on time.
You get your seat early.
You get to see all your boys.
Then the coaches roll in.
you get to fuck with that.
You would do well in Truman Show.
Like if the Truman Show selected you,
like you would never went,
you would never left.
Because you know the Truman Show?
Yeah, yeah.
I just loved it.
Everything, your clothes are in the locker.
It's vacuum.
Somebody came in when you left and cleaned this place.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
You know?
That stuff's cool, man.
Yeah, but you're talking about it
from a privilege in a first rounder standpoint.
None of what I just said has to do with first rounder.
Well, yeah, it is because you have some sort of security walking in.
I just got my fucking coffee and showed up to the media.
Yeah, I know.
But, like, you got to think about that same guy.
When I'm walking in every day, I'm wondering, I'm wondering if my key card is going to work.
Yeah.
Before I walk in to get to that coffee.
That's true.
No, listen, for me and Kyle, I mean, like, you know, especially later in our careers when we sign big contracts and shit like that, like,
like that's something that most players don't get to feel.
The, like, the simplicity of I just have to do my job as good as I can possibly do it.
And towards the end of my career, I started to feel what it was like to be a guy that didn't have as much cachet because you're older, you're not cheap.
You know, they're trying to get older guys out of the building.
People look at you different.
And you start to feel like when I went to Philly in the first day, I'm on the field with the threes.
I'm on the threes field.
like I'm beating this guy that was like a former defensive lineman like a dog
and they converted him to offensive lineman
and I don't even know if Doug's seeing the footage dude
I'm like you know that's and I that's when I felt for you
and I well no but I just go with the three
I'm just saying dude I'm trying to I'm trying to say I agree with you
I know I know I don't turn the troll off I just I just I just love it
and I feel like no but I love the two I
a building has it right and when a building has the people in place to make your day to day as seamless as possible,
the NFL existence, practice out of it, take playing out of it is awesome.
You know what else?
I love the pressure of when all your friends would come in town or your family would come in town
and they're all checking in and you're like getting them situated,
like having to not only like get to see everybody but being like they're all going to be there in person and watching this year.
Like that feeling on the weekend
I like that. I like that pressure.
And like I was saying too, I missed the
perks. And like you're saying too, like
having all your family and friends come
and you're all together.
And you kind of have that hookup at like the cool
hotel and everyone like is like when
your family gets there, you're just like
oh my God they took such good care of us.
It's like those things that kind of like make you feel good
or when you walk into your favorite restaurant,
don't have to wait in line after a game when everyone's waiting.
It's like the little things that later on, you're just like, oh, that was kind of convenient
being able to be able to be able to be in a club now.
It's like me and Bo went to a club in Philly when we were back there.
They turned us away.
Yes.
They turned us away.
Man, I was so drunk.
I was not easy to deal with that night.
Can you imagine me out there?
It was raining.
I'm so glad I stay home.
We didn't say who we were, but I'm like, this is Philly, man.
Like, fuck, we can't get into the club.
And if we were playing, we would have been in that club, dude.
And then you realize, you're like, yeah, we did have it pretty good.
Yeah.
You know?
And getting paid for appearances.
And getting paid for appearances.
Getting paid for appearances is nice.
It's very nice.
Okay.
Sign some cards.
Yeah.
Thank you guys for coming out.
I hope everybody has a happy Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
And you at home, I hope it was a good Thanksgiving.
