Green Light with Chris Long - Tin Cup Movie Review! Final Montana Update, Worst & Best Guys & Somalian Sprinter. 90s Nostalgia Draft
Episode Date: August 3, 2023(2:32) - Final Montana Check In: Fax in the Wild, Chris' Best and Worst Guy's of the Week and the Somalian "Sprinter" (38:12) - Tin Cup Movie Review: Chris, Kyle and Macon reveal their thoughts on thi...s Kevin Costner masterpiece and discuss their favorite scenes, most unbelievable moments and best lines (1:23:24) - 90s Nostalgia Draft: Chris, Kyle and Macon draft nostalgia items, moments and memories from the 90s when they were all youthful and eager to explore the world This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: (202) 991-0723 Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Greenlight podcast.
A fun show for you today.
You're going to hear Chris Kylan making a full episode with seemingly two parts.
those two parts recorded probably about a month and a half, two months apart.
We have Tinkup, the Tinkup movie review, long awaited, much anticipated.
We had a blast rewatching this movie.
We're going to talk our favorite scenes, best moments, underrated actors, and maybe some plot holes, too.
This might have been the movie that got Chris and Macon and the golf.
You never know.
And then we have a 90s nostalgia draft.
Chris, Macon, and Kyle draft their favorite nostalgia moments, memories, items from their childhood.
Grown up in the 90s, they'll have a lot.
They're going to go through them all.
See how many you can relate to.
Maybe you don't relate to any.
Maybe you know the whole board they have.
Chris is going to get a little background on that draft in the open,
so go into it with an open mind.
You'll hear a little more, but just give us some honest feedback on it.
And in that open, Chris is also going to tackle his final Montana update.
He's coming back this weekend.
He's going to decide his best and worst guys of the week.
And he's going to talk about the Somalian sprinter,
if you heard that story.
Y'all please enjoy the episode.
We will be back next week.
All right, guys, I got some studio time here in Montana.
Dr. Fax and his lovely lady have driven to Big Fork, Montana,
one of the best cities on the planet to eat dinner.
So I slid into the guest house, which is my studio.
And it looks a little bit different in here.
I heard on Fax and the King that Dr. Fax was complaining about the fact that we don't have any wash rags.
And I want to remind people of the very cultural.
discussion we had about washing our asses.
I don't know, nothing's stopping him from grabbing one of the hand towels.
I don't even want to ask.
But what is in studio or in the guesthouse is
Pokemon cards and backwards.
You know, like if I were a detective and I wanted to know if my friend Nate Collins
was somewhere, I'd look for those two items.
and he is here
not here right now
so I'm able to do the podcast
Did Meg happen to listen to Fax and the King
because Nate was nervous
that she would because he was doing something
that he thought she might not be happy with
Well I had to stop him
from like opening his big mouth about it
at dinner I was like listen I think it's really
funny that you're feeding the deer chicken wings here
but shut the fuck up at dinner
okay like be cool
Meg is livid about these deer.
They're eating all our plants.
Okay?
We can't deer fence the place.
So what does Nate do the first night?
He's on the beach.
He's got a name for this deer.
He's feeding it chicken wings.
He said on Fax and the King that the next morning there were four of them back and they
were looking for meat.
So like Fax so far mixed reviews on Fax as a house guest here in Montana.
No, it has been great.
It's been great having Nate here.
he is a fucking he is a 70 year old man in a way in a in a 34 year old's body like he went to the elks lodge to
eat breakfast one day it was five dollars right five dollar pancakes yeah yeah yeah the bell rings and a
six foot four black guy walks in in bolton montana at the hoax lodge you think people had a
crick in their neck from turning and following him down the aisle there as he ordered his
big breakfast. He said it was awesome. He said he made new friends. Not surprising. He's one of the
friendliest people on the planet. He can talk to anybody. He can talk to that wall over there.
He's been to a local casino. He's been to the Quetucknuck, the local casino, hit a machine for
$160. He can make friends with anybody. He told me about five people he met at the casino.
So one thing I want to say about Nate, great with kids. He is an expecting father.
I know Kyle gave him some ribbing about celebrating Father's Day before the kid actually, like, arrived.
But I think he deserves it.
The guy is short of overbearing, but a terrific expecting father.
He asked for a CEDU ride today with him and his lovely lady.
And I don't think he exceeded 20 miles an hour on that thing.
I was watching him in the bay.
He didn't even test the boundaries on the map.
Didn't go around the corner or anything.
What is the max speed?
70.
Whoa.
Yeah, I'll get the boys on there and go 70.
I look at Luke's face.
He looks like one of those dogs in a sidecar.
It's an amazing machine.
But today it was like we've got a couple house guests and I had to sit on the dock for like an hour and a half and people were just cycling through taking trips on the C-Doo.
It's like one of those things one person asks.
And then, you know, it's like monkey see, monkey do.
I was like, I want to ride the C-Doo.
I want to ride the C-Doo.
and I feel like my dad, I got to explain all the buttons.
See, this thing has reversed.
That's what makes it different.
Reverse is your friend.
Shit like that.
I catch myself acting like my dad.
So anyways, facts has been great.
We are headed back.
Like, listen, the forest fires up here in northwest Montana.
They're not apocalyptic, but it is very smoky.
The AQ is like 156.
Your boys looking across, you know, the bay to the mission mountains.
And I'm not seeing them.
Last night, we had sturgeon.
moon, which is like supposedly very cool. It's an August full moon. And the things like red,
you know, like the smoke in the air makes it really eerie at night. And if it weren't for the
forest fires, you'd be like, damn, that's beautiful. But we can't see shit. The air quality is not
great. June bug. We can't take her outside. So we're headed back Friday. And I can't wait to get
back in studio a lot going on. This time of year, it's like training camp without the hitting for me.
Like, I feel like it's coming, but I don't have to get hit.
And I can't wait for football.
I can't wait to get into it.
I want to say hello to Canton, Ohio.
Canton, Ohio.
Hello.
Overmodulated on the last pod read.
I did my homework on myself.
A little self-scout there.
Can't Ohio.
Dude, I don't know if it's a thing this time of year.
It's kind of like when people are like, what am I going to do every Sunday, the rest of the year?
Like, what could I possibly do with?
myself now that football's over and I feel like there's this dedicated movement as a media group
at large where we have to act like we don't have anything else to do but watch football.
There are people acting like they're excited about the Hall of Fame game.
Okay.
We don't have to do that.
You don't have to act like that.
I'll turn it on.
And for a lot of guys, it is the opportunity of a lifetime.
There are a ton of guys who are going to play in that game who, you know, might not be in
the NFL very long at all.
and I think it's cool for them, but for me, the viewer, I'm lukewarm on it.
Not to mention, I like tell the story this time of year.
Reed's heard it probably five times now.
If you're a new listener, I was one of the old CBA guys back in the day.
That is before they changed training camp, like when we used to have to practice every day,
there were two a days.
We had to wear pads and shit like that.
I sound like my dad again.
But, you know, like camp was a big.
bitch and we had this CBA coming up and there was this collision course and we knew there might be
you know, um, a strike or whatever you want to call it. Like there would be stoppage. And we had
Canton on our preseason schedule. And when you have Canton on your preseason schedule,
it's a cool trip. It's fun. My rookie year, I went there for the rookie symposium. They had like some like,
you know history component of the deal and we went there and i can remember playing cards late at night
with chris johnson who's in my draft class and a couple guys like we had no idea what was in front of us
you look back it's crazy thinking about that little cramped room in canton at the hall of fame up late
drinking sixers and playing cards and that sort of stuff but i you know i was supposed to go there to
play a football game and what that means you got five preseason games and i didn't want to play in that
fucking game. It's not like you get anything back for playing in that game. It's like teams that have to go to
London and don't get a buy week. You're kind of looking around like there's nothing you can do for me.
No. So the stoppage happened. And to my delight, it went into the season at least like 10 days.
And it just totally eliminated the Hall of Fame game for your boy. So that was a huge deal.
I'm very thankful I've never played in it. But it is objectively cool.
If I were a spectator at the game, enjoying the Hall of Fame, seeing the bus,
you know, seeing the guys go out and wave and that sort of thing.
But it's a cool deal.
My dad goes every year.
So he's headed to Canton this Friday.
I think Matusak is getting in.
He's a big Matusat guy.
So he goes every year because, you know, like that's what they do.
And you run into a lot of guys.
It's got to be one of the coolest parties, one of the coolest fraternities,
to kind of just get together and run into Lawrence Taylor.
my buddy Lawrence Taylor or my buddy Lynn Swan or my buddy Joe Montana.
You know, like pretty casual, dad.
You got some cool friends.
So he's going to head up there this weekend.
That game's coming up.
I think it's Thursday.
So that's tonight for you guys.
Enjoy.
Yep.
I won't be watching.
You got Joe Thomas going in, Zach Thomas, DeMarcus Ware, Dorel Revis.
Star studded, man.
Star studded.
And with Joe Thomas being a Cleveland Brown, I mean, like this is going to be a special weekend for him in particular.
And I bet it's got to be a lot of fun.
You know, the guy that skipped the draft, he's definitely not skipping this weekend.
You want to do this weekend.
So congrats to all those guys.
Enjoy the game if you do watch it.
Football is back.
It's in the air.
Golf is in the air today, man.
We've talked about golf a little bit.
We did this tin cup review before I left town for Montana.
I don't remember if the review is any good.
but the movie was was fun like we loved the movie i fucking loved it so my favorite kevin costner
character possibly well we did it um it inspired you to change your profile picture on i think
twitter and instagram because uh you were so enthralled and impressed with cosner's uh wardrobe
wardrobe from the movie that that you threw on some similar looking fits man i've gone through a lot of
phases, man, you know. I've got, I had the bleached hair in high school. I had the man bun. I've even
rock cornrows in college, man. You know, my, my buddies did me some cornrows for one of the games.
And I played pretty well in the cornrows, but they don't really stay. Uh, shout out to Saida Williams,
who did my rows in the apartment there, uh, in Charlott'sville. I've got a lot of phases, man,
you know, like, uh, mullet, which isn't really a phase. I would rock the mullet. That's my favorite
phase, if I'm being honest.
But yeah, this is another one.
I want to look like Roy McAvoy, dude.
I want to wear linen pants and an A shirt and an unbuttoned, you know, short sleeve button down and look like I'm, you know, a little mysterious.
Like, where the fuck did this guy come from?
And do the glasses?
Yeah, glasses, nice pair of Oakley's there.
And some, some, you know, like dock shoes, some loafers, but not like making loafers.
I'm not saying this a bad thing.
but you know the difference between like Kevin Costner loafers and making loafers.
So anyways, I've gone through a lot of phases, man, you know.
Am I the soccer kick guy or am I Roy McAvoy?
I got to make that decision before I get home.
So you'll have Tinkup today.
And then we, can we talk about this?
Let's hear it.
The draft.
So listen, I've, the other day I was like, damn, I'm fucking burn out.
And I was like, when do I get a, oh, I just had a break.
Like the days are running together.
I think I just need to get home.
The baby thing is like a family of three.
I've been gushing about it, but the honeymoon stage is over.
It's a lot like camp.
You know, like the baby has had a tough day.
And the trickle-down effect is if the coach is having a tough day,
the players are going to have a tough day too.
And, you know, if the owner of the baby is having a tough day, the coach is,
you know, he's stressed out.
That's my wife.
And then, and then me, the player, like,
It's fucking hell week.
You know, and she's, she's been killing it.
But I'm just telling you, like, you feel the stress when the baby's not having a good day.
She's been crushing it.
But anyways, I've been kind of stressed out or whatever.
And coming off that wedding, my dopamine's like at a zero.
And, you know, like, it's two nights of drinking.
It's all this shit.
I've had house guests after house guests.
There's fucking forest fires up here.
That's why I'm going home.
This is, like, kind of apocalyptic.
I'm on the dock.
I'm watching, like, fires across the house guests.
the bay. It's crazy at night. It looks like, I don't know, like Jesse from Firestorm should be there.
Anyways, I was stressed and, you know, I kind of let Macon drive the other day. And I was like,
hey, why don't you pick what we do in the C block of the show? And he was like, why don't we do a 90s
nostalgia draft, which to me is like, you know, initially guilty is charged. I'm thinking the worst.
I'm like, oh, Macon just doesn't want to do any fucking work. Like, this is the easiest thing. How many,
like, times can I draft?
Blockbuster video, trolls, like, no, no spoilers.
There's a lot of picks that come to mind when you think about the 90s if you're a 38-year-old
dude.
And I'm like, it's probably not going to go well.
He wants to do nine rounds.
He said, I want to do nine rounds for the 90s.
And then, you know, we're trying to get a time from Big Kyle.
Like, what time can you come sit down in the guest house here and record a pod?
You know, competing with golf is hard.
Kyle's like, I'm playing nine holes in the morning.
You want to play?
I'm like, no.
Are you going to podcast with us around one?
You know, like 11 o'clock comes.
We're playing 18.
I got a text to one.
I had no idea if people did this.
The motherfuckers played 27 holes.
Okay?
He's done two turns.
And I'm like wondering when I'm going to get the talent here.
And I'm wondering if the talent's going to be prepared and he's showing up and he's drafting things that, quite frankly, I didn't even know we're on the board.
A lot of them weren't from the 90s.
Yeah, he's slicing his draft picks.
It's just it's errant picks out here.
And my fucking engagement level is low.
Like, you know, sometimes it gets stressed out doing this pod.
I'm going to use today.
Because today's just the shit show.
We've got, we've got some, like, tin cup for you that we recorded a month ago.
We've got a draft that we were so terrified of how bad it was.
We didn't put it out the other day.
We're going to put it out today.
Like, but maybe it's good.
So stick around and tell us.
But the point is sometimes I've got to be honest, Reed, you know me like,
the back of your hand at this point unfortunately but like sometimes i hate our stuff and sometimes it's
because i hate hearing myself talk and sometimes i want to shut the fuck up and let the other people do the
work and sometimes i come in and i'm like maybe i should just flatline today energy wise and see what
happens and that's kind of what happened the other day and so i did that and at the end of it i was like
oh it's kind of it was okay there was some okay stuff i whatever like people like the pauses and the
over each other and the awkwardness.
You know, like, sometimes I don't know
what a fucking podcast is anymore.
Some of them I listen to them and I'm like, it's just people
in a room for three hours.
And there's no cuts.
Like, it's just like, whatever
the fuck they want to talk about.
I don't know if you like the football stuff.
I don't know if you like the draft. So my head's spinning.
It was just in one of those moods.
And I finish and I'm like, how do
how do you guys think that draft was?
And Matt says,
one out of five probably would be
the worst piece of content we put out.
And I go to Reed,
and he gives me,
and Reed likes everything.
We could fart into the microphone
and Reed would be like,
it's a pretty good show.
Reed was like,
yeah.
So I said,
fuck,
what did we just do for 45 minutes?
It was,
and it is,
it is pretty,
all over the place,
but it is,
like,
you guys definitely had fun as well.
I want to apologize,
and level said,
expectations. I mean, you've got to want to listen now. You're like, how bad did it be? And, you know,
it's like the wedding speech thing, under promise, over deliver. So here it is. I mean, after Ting
Cup, after you listen to an entire, entire movie review, then we've got a 90s draft. So we're just
dumping it on you today. Take the weekend, break it up, enjoy it, listen to it, however you
want to listen to it. But that's, that's where we are right now. 90s nostalgia was, it was a good
topic, a wide-ranging topic.
And honestly, a little too wide.
But, I mean, it brought out some great, you know, picks, as you pointed out.
You know, Kyle had some good ones.
I actually, I picked the dog up today from daycare and I was taking her home.
And on the way I passed my old elementary school.
And so I stopped and we were running around the soccer field.
And it brought back a lot of 90s nostalgia moments because honestly, your 90s nostalgia moments were much different than my 90s and nostalgia moments because I was seven.
like breast milk you're right right breast milk and and uh yeah i was kindergarten in 1999 so
yeah dude you're young well i got an interesting uh high school anecdote today actually dovetails
nicely i just wanted to tell this story i'm out and about in montana
and by the way i'm trying to beat the edible to the end of this open okay so buckle up like i'm
starting to feel it here guys um so i run of this guy he's a big fucking fan of the paha
And he decides to tell me an interesting story.
He's like, you know, sports, I love sports.
You know actually how my grandmother got pregnant the first time.
And I'm like, where the fuck is this going, buddy?
He's like, well, you know, rural Montana town.
People used to just go out to the cars.
I guess they just went out to the Model T's and did their business.
But there was this cute guy.
And she was on the edge of courtship, I suppose.
And she tells the guy, I'll take you to the Model T if you score 32 points tonight in the basketball game.
And this is like 1940, dude.
This is like wartime.
So, you know, it's a little bit like Independence Day where you don't know if tomorrow's coming.
Like, now's the time to go out to the Model T.
The guy scores 34 points, just eeks it, just ekes his way into the Model T.
but can you imagine that circumstance like how much they were passing that guy the ball it was like
coby's last game that's what i have at my head a rural 1940s hoosiers looking gym and this fucking
guy's Kobe bright because he and his teammates want him to go to the model t he was 17 for 80
yeah he was just chucking it up there he's just chucking it up there anyways i got one or two more
things and then we'll get the tin cup i want to give you a layup line guys i want to give you the uh chariots of fire
theme any guesses of why i think it might have to do with a certain race that was run the other day
it was and i don't know exactly which race it was but i saw a woman do something that i have never seen a runner do
in my life. Nasra Abu Kar Ali skipped in the air as she crossed the finish line 20 seconds after the
starting gun, 100 meters. All right, I sat here, all right? I did the math, 20 seconds, 5 meters a second.
Initially, I fucked up the conversion by like a zero and I actually believed it. That's how slow she looked.
I sat there at my computer and it said 1.18 miles per hour.
And I said, yeah, that looks about right.
Then I use the calculator app.
It's 11.18 miles per hour.
Okay.
Listen, so I'm Googling what animals run this fast.
The whole thing.
Okay, the background is she's somebody's niece.
She sticks out like a sore thumb.
She can't run.
She can't even run a little bit.
She can't like run like regular person run, dude.
Like if I saw that woman running through the park, I'd be like, ugh.
She looks like me.
She looks like me running the first base.
She did.
No, you're being hard on yourself.
But chicken, eight mile an hour.
Domestic pig, 11 mile an hour.
Squirrel, 12 miles an hour, dude.
Like, this woman's losing a race to a squirrel.
I, uh, incredible.
Incredible.
I've never seen anything like in my life, man.
So this was the world.
university games in China, and she's the niece of the Somalian, the Somalian National Athletics
Federation Chairwoman. And so she might be, it seems like she might have gotten a little special
treatment, uh, because this race was over before, you know, she probably even looked up from her
get off. Every SEC school just rescinded her off. She just can't run. She can't run. And I got to thinking,
these are the five sports, Olympic sports
that I would most like to see
somebody's niece or nephew
just get teleported into, okay?
Number five, wrestling.
Rulong Gardner just breaking some Russian oligarch's
nephew's arm.
I mean, electric, sailing, sailing.
People don't think about sailing.
You know what happened?
If somebody's niece was doing sailing,
things going 60 miles an hour,
just gale force wins.
boat crashes man i look at boat crashes on instagram like on loop okay number three diving big collision
with the water people who don't know how to dive they don't know how to dive self-explanatory
especially from all the way up that had like the 10 meter platforms they would jump and just
try to flap try to fly i want to see uh i want to see prop bets on this stuff okay like the top
two two acrobatic gymnastics
it a shot. Okay, as long as there's no cervical spine injuries, I'd love to see it. Okay, and number one,
artistic gymnastics. This is the sport that anybody for a split second out there on that mat,
feeling that energy, has to know they have a shot to win. Like, I just, it's art. It's subjective.
Okay? Like, I have a chance to be an Olympian. When you walk on that mat and you're an artistic gymnast,
You have a chance to be an Olympian.
I don't care who you are.
That's Will Ferro from old school, right, when he's dancing around the gym,
waving his, you know, wand in R. Gold's face.
Yeah.
So this fucking video, 20 million views, and it's a lot of time, Reed.
We're content guys.
What is the retention rate on this video?
It has to be incredible.
I need her and Rich Eisen on a social, like five,
minutes ago running next to each other can you guys pull that off yeah actually that's great we have to
outsource that i need that fucking video i need i need i need i need nasra abukar ali and rich eisen in
indianapolis can we do that fucking taekwondo judo karate i don't know what the fuck's going on there
so that wouldn't be as fun but those are my five wrestling sailing diving acrobatic artistic gymnastics
I'd like to see you do artistic gymnastics.
When we were on boomers in Las Vegas,
you were doing some artistic gymnastics in the lobby of that fucking casino.
Yeah, I don't even remember damn near much of that.
I was just floating and then we were in front of that waterfall.
And then I think I started, I was just crying and laughing at the same time.
Waterfall was something.
We were sitting in front of that wind waterfall.
I've had some of it.
I have cried tears of joy in front of that waterfall.
okay they were a great sponsor and uh and you know anybody who's looking to pay us to do business
with us listen to this we talk about our sponsors after we're affiliated with them she was it was great
okay it was great we had a great time and then we moved on but this is how this is the royal treatment
you'll get i still use athletic greens athletic greens i love athletic i don't even know if dude i don't even know
we're still affiliated with them.
We are.
We are still affiliated with them.
Good, because I had like four today.
All right.
I've had an athletic green at like
five in the morning.
And I'm not talking about the morning.
I'm talking about five.
Like get home to end the night club.
An athletic green's nightcap.
I put an athletic green in a Pilsner
at the waist manner night.
When there's no time to stop drinking,
I don't think they're going to like that
but I love you guys
Was that after someone threw out your other greens
You were just like you needed some greens
And you had to...
Yeah, at the time, the infamous smoothie order
That just disappeared.
I had like a, what kind of bowl was it?
Asaii bowl just went missing.
Nobody in the crew knew where it went.
You guys were cleaning out the house.
I go into my cave for five minutes, come out.
Breakfast is gone.
Okay, worst guy.
Speaking of worst guys.
whoever that was, worst guy that week.
T.J. Dudley, okay?
You guys know who I'm talking about.
You knew what was going to get here.
T.J. Dudley, let me try to sum this up the best I can.
Clemson football player, linebacker,
decides to upload pictures of unsuspecting teammates in the locker room
onto only fans.
And I know some of you on this podcast,
listen to this podcast listen you're like me you don't know what only fans is um i'll explain it to you
it's mostly like porno isn't it's like it's like it's a way to cut out the middleman it's like indie
it's i don't know if it's indie porno yeah i mean it's like direct to you know direct from the
the talent i guess yeah it's like a bunch of people who got naked were like i don't need an agent
and I'm doing my own deal.
I'm Richard Sherman.
I'm naked Richard Sherman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm naked Russell O'Coon.
You know, like, I can do this myself.
And so, you know, like people run these very successful, very lucrative.
And some of them, some of them, some of them, you don't have to get fully, like, it's just feetpicks.
Some of them, you know, they're like doing certain things.
There's AFSMR only fans.
Okay, speaking to ASMR, I want one more warning on the draft.
I don't know if you're like a misophonic, but how do you feel about,
torch lighters.
My torch lighter was going off the entire draft.
And Reed was like, I can clean that up.
And I was like, fuck it, leave it in there.
Okay.
So, T.J. Dudley, he's snapping picks of his teammates.
We don't know for sure if they're clothed or not.
And putting them on only fans.
And he got kicked off the team, of course, for violating team rules, which means there's a rule that's
like no snapping nudie picks of your teammates.
and profiting off their name, image, and likeness.
You know, like, this is my first question.
Who does he owe money?
What kind of bind does he in to do this?
Because, you know, there was a guy for Iowa State today.
It's, you know, he got caught on camera making a $500 bet,
which probably was just one of those golf bets,
with a young lady at a bar.
And so thank God he's betting on his own team, I guess.
He's Pete Rosen out there.
in Ames, but like, it's a bad look.
And it made me think, like, maybe this kid's down.
Maybe this kid's in trouble.
You know, I want to check on this kid while calling him the biggest dumb ass I've ever
encountered.
Like, this is, I've never heard of this.
This violation of trust, it's 100 DeAngelo Russell's.
Well, he just transferred to Old Miss.
So he's in the Old Miss football program.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How does he come into that locker room and not have a target on his back immediately?
He does.
I mean, he's a good linebacker, right?
Yeah.
You know, every time some kid does something incredibly dumb, like we'll never hear from him again.
And then eventually, like, he's playing on Sundays or something, you know, like, so never know.
I don't know how good he is.
I don't know the kid, but I can tell you that walking into a new locker room would suck.
and, you know, people are going to be watching him like a hawk.
And I don't know, I figure he's got to talk to that team like immediately and be like,
this is the circumstance.
Because I refuse to believe this guy was just taking picks of people's cheeks and putting
them on Instagram or only fans.
See?
I don't know what the fuck it is.
But, you know, Old Miss did just grab a kid from UCF who did a home invasion.
So I don't know.
Like, should that guy explain to?
I, you know, there is precedent here.
There's a model named Danny Mathers.
She's a Playboy model, again, not something I, anyways, but part of her plea deal for taking an unsuspecting picture of a gal at a public gym in the shower and body shaming her on Snapchat.
So Playboy, not like a litmus test.
It's not like getting into the Air Force.
you know like what do you think's going to happen you take a picture of of a fucking lady in the shower
she's like her head's turned she's like what the fuck's going on here this gal is the only thing i can
think of uh she was placed on three years of probation and is banned from using a mobile phone
in any place where persons are in a state of undress or have an expectation of privacy
so that's fair it should have been the rule anyways with her but it also
also extends to like this gray area where it's like expectation of privacy. Yeah, I expect to be
left alone right now. Also banned from posting images of people online without their express permission
and must destroy all copies of the offending image. So like barbecue, family gathering, got
hit up all your family members and be like, can I post this picture because I'm a huge scumback?
And then she has to stay 100 yards away from, you know, this gal. My question is different states,
right this is probably California or something
who knows what happens to this guy
Matt you're probably the closest thing
to a legal expert like you're our
Jeffrey Toobin without
the Zoom meeting
okay what's going to happen
to this kid
I
doesn't seem like much maybe
South Carolina is a little bit more lenient
than California but
I think he should probably
be forced to room with the home invasion
kid
yeah
that's good
no honest
I don't know what's going to happen to him.
And I bring up the Danny Mathers thing
because I thought it was fucking funny.
Like I was looking back at the story.
I was like, what an idiot.
And it's kind of funny.
She has to jump through these hoops.
I think he should too.
I think all these rules apply them to this kid.
And like if they ever play in Death Valley or against Clemson,
like he should have to sit out because of the 100 yard rule.
You know, like he has to be 100 yards away from anybody that was on that team.
There's just a fucking restraining order.
Like biggest game of his life, Clemson, Ole Miss, college football playoff.
Sorry, can't go.
Restraining order because I was taking dick picks of my teammates.
I don't know what happened, okay?
It just looks bad, all right?
Which doesn't get me out of the situation if I'm wrong.
And this kid is totally exonerated.
I just can't imagine.
All right.
So last thing, best guy.
method man he goes to the jets practice and he's got a chance to break it down first off method man looks
fucking terrific the guy is yoked out of his mind he's always in the gym i was going to do a workout
the other day and i was going to skip it i was like procrastinating and i was like a fucking method man
look at method man dude i can't skip workouts anyways hard thing to do to i don't care if you're
method man whoever it is to walk into a circle of those alphas and break the team down
with no context of like the culture or anything and i thought he nailed it short and sweet man in
the glass which if you you know listen to pot a lot when my head coach from stabs san an long time
high school football coach john blake retired or moved on because now he's at fork union
we read that poem man in the glass check it out i think it's extremely uh motivating we used to read
it before games and method man hit the fucking nail on the head in and out really concise
and on point with the poetry man so best guy method man enjoy tin cup maybe the draft tell us how you
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All right, everybody. We got another sports movie review for you all today. It's Tin Cup. We got Kyle Long,
Macon, Chris, Cowboy Reed, myself. Very excited to talk about this movie. Who wants to go first?
What did you think upon rewatching this movie again for the show? It wasn't a rewatch for me.
This is the first time I'd seen Tin Cup. Yeah. I'd seen the most famous scene.
Vertinity here and there. I thought it was a delightful movie that made virtually
no sense. Moral being, you know, in love and in sports, don't play it safe.
And I think more of like, I can relate to this movie because there's so much in life that's
passed you by, but there's still so much potentially ahead of you. If you can just focus your
talents and your character. And Kevin Costner, just a struggle with his character of the
entire movie, like all the movies he's in seemingly, but he's my favorite. He did a great job.
And what a... You love Kevin Costner. He is my favorite.
See, you know what's funny to me.
Because I'm a baseball guy.
I grew up watching him dominate in baseball movies.
Making batting practice look effortless.
Even when he goes visits major league teams, he's got a great swing, hits bombs.
Seems to be a cool guy.
He's a sportsman.
He came to see the Rams practice in London.
Yeah, he was in London.
He's a Rams fan.
Like in a cool outfit during practice.
He was cool as shit.
You know, I thought his character was really cool.
At one point in the movie I had written down as this,
you know, I think it was about the riddle
about that point, which by the way,
dog, I'll tell you something,
you have told me that riddle on the show before
to fuck with me and make me look like a misogynist.
Yeah.
But I didn't get the riddle the second time.
I rewound it 14, 15 times.
Wow.
Then brought my wife in.
Glad Renee came in.
René Russo.
I brought my wife in.
She didn't get it.
That's why I asked you to see if Kate would get it.
Got it.
But I had written down, this is Kevin Costner's smartest character.
And then as the movie went on, I decided that Roy McAvoy is the coolest autistic character of all time in movies or TV.
Hold on. You think he was spectral.
Yes, dude. And it's okay to say because I Googled it. There's like lists of like, you know, from like mental health sites and stuff like people, characters and leads and movies that may be on the spectrum.
I think Tin Cup was on the spectrum.
He's got those headphones in while he's playing at different points.
Dude, just like think about his decision making.
Think about the face he made when Renee Russo was like,
you need to drive me home.
He was like, go back.
Cannot compute.
He was so smart but could not get out of his own way.
He was like a guy that needed to play the video game on hard.
You know when you're playing a video game and you get careless
because you're like.
Not challenge.
Yeah, I got to win this way.
You know, that was like,
the whole movie.
I'm going to play this Madden season and only run the ball.
Yeah, or just like, yeah, I'm fucking around playing a video game.
Yeah, that's kind of what he was doing.
I loved his character.
I thought Kevin Costner was cool as hell in the movie.
I thought he was my kind of guy.
He was a romantic.
The way he talked about golf was really,
it was an enthralling scene.
Every time he had an opportunity to explain some golf to Renee Russo
or you just watch him play or his confidence,
it was like it's real.
That's why I like Kevin Costner's believable.
I almost believe that he could just
take a three wood out of the rough and stripe it 250 and put it in the green.
I thought it was a great movie, dude.
We did varsity blues already.
Varsity Blues I gave like a 7.2.
It's a different pace.
I give this movie like a high sevens.
Yeah.
You know, like there were so many great lines.
Kevin Costner's character was awesome.
I thought, you know, at times it was written a little bit like run of the mill.
Both Texas movies too, which is interesting, the landscape, the hellish landscape with the armadillo and the intro at the, uh,
Nasty little varmint.
Yeah, strange.
We've never seen those types of things around here.
But the driving range kind of reminded me of the spot on 29.
It made me want to live in Texas.
What's it called?
Islands.
Highlands.
Yeah, it may be want to live in Texas and be a golf pro.
Yeah.
And like work at a driving range.
29.
Go up there.
Wear a shirt.
René Russo.
Wear an A shirt.
Be sweaty.
Drink beers.
Yeah.
Well, not just wear an A shirt.
I loved in like we're going to do best outfits.
Like Kevin Costner, his fits in this movie.
Like I want to adopt the fit.
He's like Tommy Bahama.
Tommy Bahama, unbuttoned.
He made it look great.
He made a shirt or a dirty white t-shirt, some linen pants.
Pleaded.
When Tommy Bahama puts out their spring and summer line,
Kevin Costner from that movie is who their target audiences,
but then they end up getting guys like me that can't fit into normal shirts.
Yeah, he makes it look cool.
Yeah.
I did not know that Renee Rousseau spelled her name R-E-N-E.
Would you think how, you would two E's?
Well, three-ees, yeah.
Three-ees, you thought.
Three-E-E-T-Total.
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't that interesting?
It is interesting.
It is.
No.
No.
This movie came out in 1996.
It did.
Great year.
It was number one at the box office for one week.
Wow.
And then got topped by the island of Dr. Moreau.
It came out the same summer as Independence Day, which kind of like overwhelmed.
I'm back.
I don't know about you all, or not making, but for me, this was a movie that I saw first on, like, TNT.
And it was like a rewatch movie on cable.
Yeah.
Like home from school sick and watching it.
For us, Kevin Costner was kind of a deity in our house, so we watched a lot of Costner.
Dad loved Costner.
Do you have a problem that he was the sports guy actor for all of these movies for several years?
No.
No, because evidently he's a good athlete.
Evidently, there's not many good athletes in Hollywood.
And Ron Shelton did, you know, like a couple sports movies.
You know, White Man Can't Jump.
He did Bull Durham, which was, you know, a great Kevin Costner performance.
Yeah.
He wrote and directed those.
And then he also wrote Blue Chips, Cobb.
the Great White Hight,
play it to the bone.
Bad Boys 2, which is in a sports movie.
Great White Hives.
This old movie called The Best of Times
with Robin Williams.
It's actually really good.
It's not explained.
D.B. Cooper.
It's not explained until late.
I think we should explain it early
that 10 cup.
He got the nickname from wearing a cup
as a baseball catcher in high school.
But supposedly in real life,
Shelton came up with it
because he heard us saying
he's not worth a fart in a tin.
Cup. And so, like, they rolled with that. And some interesting casting kind of deals here.
You know, Molly was almost Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, David Sims, Don Johnson, was almost played by
Pierce Brosnan. Yeah. I can also see that. And I, well, I heard that. It would have been tougher to
steal Pierce Brosons. Yeah, it depends on the website. Brosson would have been perfect, but it depends on
on the website that you're looking at. But I also heard it was supposed to be Tom Selleck as well.
Brosman, no way he could have pulled off the West Texas accent.
Yeah.
They would have to change the story a little.
And then Alex Baldwin was in the mix,
but Kim Bessinger had pregnancy issues,
like a couple weeks before filming,
and that's when...
He wouldn't stop hitting people with golf balls on the set.
That's when Don Johnson, you know...
I say that.
So Don Johnson, actually, I read this too.
He turned down L.A. Ness and the Untouchables.
Yeah, that's right.
So, like, a little circle of Kevin Costner there.
Four!
But here's my thing with Tom Selleck.
Tom Selleck, you know, I thought, you know, Don Johnson's character had to be kind of like a pretty boy.
Yacht clubish.
And it had to be like kind of like all clean cut.
And honestly, that character, when you look at him, he was undeniably a wet blanket and tough to like.
But was he a bad guy.
No, he was just like, he was kind of like making.
Well, well, he yells at the, the grand, the kid.
The grandparents did.
He yelled to the kid.
And he called the dog fucking ugly.
And by the way, okay, so yeah, he was a bad guy when it came to the fans.
Would you mind giving our grandson an autograph?
Can you people not see that I'm busy?
I'm working here.
This is my office.
Do I come to your office and ask you for your autograph?
I don't think so.
Jesus.
I'm an ugly dog.
And that was like...
Who were played by Costner's parents and his son.
Wow, really.
Yeah, the people he yelled at in the airport.
That's funny. I didn't know that.
But Tom Selleck would have been too manly.
Too macho.
He would have been too macho.
Like Don Fry.
Kevin Costner had to maintain, you know, this air of masculinity.
You know, that's what drew Renee Russo to him.
Like, it's not like Ron Johnson was a beta, but he was like this clean cut.
And he lacked short guy.
He lacked mystery.
The first time, the first time that Don Johnson came and talked to Cheech outside the trailer
and he was like, I need, I need your guy.
You know, can we get him straight on the straight arrow for the street?
tournament and they're talking about Costner and then Costner just appears like some shit like from the
shadow realm. That's the mystery we're talking about. You know, him and Don Johnson were a single,
Kevin Costner. Yeah. At this point, Kevin Costner almost didn't take the role because he was tired
from Waterworld. He said we would just tape the longest movie in history. That was a huge production.
It was like 60 days. Yeah. You know, can we review that next? Well, I'd love to review. And by being tired from
Waterworld, he means being single and being Kevin Costner. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I hear that.
Where are all the guilt men today? Like getting out in the, but evidently him and Don Johnson had a pretty
good time filming this movie. When they got drunk, he called him Ron. Did I miss the scene where
Don is upset that he's lost his girl? We never really address a break-up. No, it just kind of like
happens. That might be a plot hole there. Yeah. That's it. That's a, yeah, because it was like,
It was the Pelican scene and she just like...
Was into him.
She just decided.
She took a side.
And then Don was like, what's going on here?
He was like, you get one shot at this.
Yeah.
One ball.
Hey, with the, with the water world thing,
we had shot, we had taped a pod like three years ago, maybe at this point.
Reed will remember this, where we did movies that need to be remade.
Yeah.
Waterworld needs to be remade.
Top of the list.
climate change. And don't have it be the rock. Don't have it. No, like have it be, I forget who he cast, but it was, I, I love to. Can we get a Latino guy in there? Why? Because they're going to throw either a black guy. It's not going to be a white guy. They're going to put a black guy. I think we need some Latino representation in the water, in the marine, in the marine realm. Okay. Feach is still working. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
You guys want to get into some of our favorite scenes? Yeah, sure. All right. I'll go first with just one of mine.
I love when Romeo fixes his shanks where he's like up at the driving range and he's fucking up and like I don't think Romeo really knows what he's doing now like put your change in your left pocket all right take all the change and put in your left hand pocket go on do it right well it's a perfect it's a perfect sports coaching moment where it's like I don't know what the problem is my athlete clearly doesn't know what the problem is so let's change something and change their their head space yeah I mean having the shorthy
shanks at the driving range is bad enough.
Then you throw a gallery of fans in there.
People ever have shanks like that?
Oh, yeah.
When he's hitting it straight down the line,
and hitting people, that was not believable.
It happens.
The predictability of the advice was too predictable for me.
Didn't love that scene, Matt.
I know what Cheech was doing,
and I didn't believe that the shank,
you could actually dribble it down.
Buddy.
Yeah.
Without going forward.
It happens.
Let's go golfing.
Straight down the line.
Let's go golfing.
All shank, three balls.
Four balls.
What did you like?
What did I like?
That's a good question.
Did you like any of the nostalgia from the 90s golf tournaments?
What was your favorite scene?
For sure.
I really liked...
Because that stood out to me.
Oversized golf shirts.
Here's what I liked.
I like Costner...
I used to play here, Patrick Cantlay.
I like Costner appearing at Dr. Molly Griswold's office,
and then the patient is sitting in the...
The exit room.
That's the funniest.
Yeah.
And then after he talks to Dr. Griswold, he walks out and he goes,
you're still in the exit room.
I'm going to qualify for the U.S.
opening.
I'm going to kick your boyfriend's ass.
Please leave, Roy.
And whatever you think of me, you should know that your boyfriend hates old people,
children, and dogs.
He opens the door, closes it, comes back in.
And that brought is still out there in the exit room.
And then the funny is, you're still in the exit room.
And she starts crying.
yeah yeah
yeah i'm gonna qualify for the u.s open and keep your boyfriend's ass whatever you think of me
you should know that your boyfriend he hates old people he hates children and he hates dogs
and that broad's out there crying still all right in the exit room you're still in the exit room
yeah that was my favorite line that is so funny he said bill me for 30 minutes i'm not that
fucked up yeah he goes um yeah he he he was like well i didn't see any magazines or anything like
that so i figured it might not be there's no pain on the walls yeah that was
It was a great scene. I love when he made the analogy of like, oh, it's, you know, you have to swim
across the river and it's got all this shitty stuff in it. And she's like, you're talking about
yourself. Like immediately diagnoses that he's trying to build himself. But she had no idea that
he was talking about her. Right. You know? And then he shoots his shot. Yeah, he shoots his
shot. One shot, one ball. Also, he was kind of hansy with her early in the movie. Oh, yeah.
Hansy. Very golf prone. Would be okay today. It wouldn't. You're talking about the rain?
At the range.
Well, he also walked into the strip club and they were like,
Roy, where are you been?
We haven't seen you for three days.
Yeah, three days.
Yeah.
Little horny.
Yeah, he's horny.
Top horny.
And he said sex and golf are two things you don't have to be good at to enjoy.
That's true.
The plot hole to me was that stripper.
You know, Roy was Kevin Costner.
I mean, like, you know, when Renee Russo said, yeah, he's kind of cute.
I was like, yeah, well, hold on a minute.
That's Kevin Costner.
Okay, like I know.
Hold on a minute, player.
I know he's, he's, he's Roy in the movie.
but he's kind of cute. It's Kevin fucking Costner in 1996. Why was that character dating
that stripper? Well, Salomey, Texas for one. You know, you can't hit a golf ball for 500 miles.
They remind us about six times. Pre, respectfully, pre hair plugs Kevin Costner. It's going a little bit.
But he made it look cool though. Yeah. No, I don't disagree. The stripper looked a
bit advanced in age. Yeah. Did you know, did you know Tin Cubs?
a real guy.
Give me the rundown.
You probably know all about this, but yeah.
Well, there's a golfer in the Masters
a couple years prior who laid
up and that's where they took David Sims
and then. I know they took, I know
they took, there was a guy that prepped
him for the movie that got his stream.
Gary McCord. Gary McCord.
And Gary McCord. He was awesome.
Not to be chalky, but to me, the most
iconic scene is
the, you know, give me another ball.
It's the last ball you got in the bad, Roy.
That's inspired by Gary McCord.
Right.
who hit like an eight or a 10 at a tournament in the 80s.
Yeah,
just like John Daly did the same thing.
Over and over again.
Don Daly did the same thing.
I think he ran out of balls.
He did.
And so Gary McCord met with the production because they were like,
we need a golf kind of coach for Kevin Kosser because he hadn't played.
He looks like a golfer, but he hasn't played.
And Gary McCourt got the part in two minutes.
He was like, why do you even take me?
And the guy was like, well, you got kicked out of the masters, so that helps.
Yeah.
And Gary also was the inspiration for the Pelican.
scene.
Yep.
Gary,
there was a bet
where Gary
hit a pelican
or something like that.
And during that
scene, which happens
to be one of my
favorites,
Gary McCord is
announcing the entire
thing from a
soda stream,
like a soda bubble.
That's my favorite bra.
Yeah, yeah.
Is that Gary
McCord playing?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's got the
mustache.
He's got 30 yards
bar and grill.
And he's got to go
through the French
doors over the
umbrellas and
then carry 30 yards
of river.
He's got to try
to pop that pelican
right off his perch.
Yeah.
The cool thing is it's the entire real CBS production crew,
entire real CBS announcers.
That's why it's so realistic.
Nance looks like a baby.
Nance and the guys in the back of the...
Nance looks younger than us.
The guys in the truck are the real guys in the truck.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is incredible.
And Costner and Don Johnson, they say, went to the University of Houston.
Of course, Nance and Freddie Couples went to Houston.
I love the TV director who was just pissed that Roy McAvoy was a storyline.
Brink Shirkini in.
Yeah, they talk about Salomey, Texas.
He says something.
like's never been discovered yet. Fictional place by the way. Salome does not exist.
So the idea of the whole movie actually took shape during the final round of the 93
Masters. Chip Beck infamously laid up on a par five. He was three back. He was three back.
And evidently it was the closest Beck ever came to winning a major. But in like a
a non-linear way, this is how they were inspired to do this guy that did the opposite.
So, you know, when you ask the question, you know, was it the right ending to the movie to have him just hit the ball into the water five, six times?
That was the movie.
So, like, there was no, he's, you know, what do we do?
They foreshadowed it to, this was how it was going to end the whole time for them.
I think it's less memorable, less good if he just wins the U.S. Open.
Yeah, because it's like every other movie.
Yeah.
And this is a movie about sports.
It's a movie about like the people that almost made it.
It's the people about it's a movie about the people that couldn't get out of their own way.
Like we played with a bunch of guys like that.
How many guys can we name?
There were such good athletes, such good players that couldn't get out of their own way.
Yeah, they just had too much as Renee Russo put it like bullshit in their head.
And, you know, like sports is a mental game.
It makes you think back to like situations where you could have been better,
you know, because Roy is that guy that like if Roy had exhausted his potential,
he could have been great.
Yep.
And the real guy they based it off evidently was was loosely Roy McAvoy.
I think his name might have been Roy McAvoy.
Well, they based off of McCord.
Well, I know, but there's a real Roy McAvoy, evidently,
unless I'm reading an article that was totally made up,
actually died in his Cadillac in a single single.
car accident in the 90s and he was drunk.
And I'll tell you what he didn't die in,
the VW bug that picks up the golf balls at the driving range,
which I thought was my favorite prop.
If we're gonna consider that a prop,
I'd love to have that in my back field.
That's a good one.
Kyle and Reed, you guys are golfers,
like, were there any golf scenes that stood out to y'all
or any like quotes that are now used on the golf course at all?
I would say his explanation,
the poetic explanation of the swing, you know, forced through the ground.
He was using all real golfers.
golf jargon
things that have crossover
even in the football world
generating force through the ground
you know getting your hips
around and stuff like that's how
I learned to hit a golf ball
the inner lock is what he started
the poem with
and then he's like a little nod to the gods
that was cool
that was something I hadn't heard
other than that movie
and he talks about the finish
describes the finish
and I love
a nod to the gods
knowing perfection is unattainable
Yeah.
And then he finishes it with, there's also a second one you can, you know, a second terminology, you can go out, grip it and rip it.
There's only one other acceptable theory about how to hit a golf ball.
Oh, boy.
Well, I'm afraid to ask.
Well, what is it?
What's the other theory?
Grip it and rip it.
Yeah.
I like to see.
The duality of man.
My favorite scene other than the chalky one might have been him losing David Sims.
That's a great scene.
still going.
Yeah, it was a great scene.
He just turns and hits the ball down the road.
And again, it's like, Kossner,
he thinks he's smart and he is in a way.
Golfs a mental game.
Yeah, yeah.
I hit the seven, like John Daly hits the three.
And the Cadillac that he lost was my favorite prop of the movie.
I want that Cadillac with the exact seats, the whole thing.
I might actually get on that this week.
But don't think of it as a,
means of transportation. Think of it as a trophy.
A bragging rights. That was a great
line. And it reminds
me of the story of our dad with
he had a Cadillac.
He had like a red Cadillac.
Probably similar in year, but it was in
better shape in California.
Beautiful. Love that thing. I mean, it was
awesome. And then this guy
he sold the Cadillac.
Like to some guy he didn't know at the time.
Well, fast forward like 20 years later,
we're in Montana.
We've got a place on Flathead Lake, and he's missed the Cadillac ever since.
It's like an inside joke with him and my mom.
Like, you never should have let it go.
This guy on the lake owns it, like just randomly.
A couple doors down.
And we know the guy in the lake, and he'll pull up with that Cadillac just three times a week to rub it into my dad.
So I think I'm going to get that Cadillac.
I honestly, it's one of the coolest cars in a sports movie.
That thing's a boat.
That's why they call him boats back then.
You can fit a lot of golf clubs in that thing.
That's my favorite prop.
Last thing I'll mention banking the ball off the porta pop.
Oh, classic.
That was great.
I mean, that's so relatable as an athlete where you're, like, especially a golfer with your buddies,
where they're like, just hit it out there, get it out into the fairway.
You know, you have no shot at the green.
You know, for him to turn and say 50 bucks says I'll, you know, put it on the green.
And McCord is being talked to.
He's like, you're talking to me?
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's reporting from 10 feet away, which is also the intimacy of it.
of golf. Like, imagine if the huddle was there and Joe Buck was right outside of the hall.
Yeah, like, René Russo being like, go for it. Yeah. Or him asking advice and they're like,
that's a two-stroke penalty. That's like you hear stories about like Tiger's mom when he was
younger being on the course with him. Like, that's an intimate environment for the bet to happen,
for McCord to take it, and then for the porta potty shot to happen. That was a little,
that was a stretch. And it's interesting because there was a issue for the masters this year when,
when one player was accused of cheating,
they said that his caddy held up a five
saying that he hit a five in the other group.
But it always,
the caddies always flash what number club.
They hit to the on-course reporter.
So the on-course reporter can tell the booth
and tell the listeners, oh, he went five here.
That scene also, my biggest plot hole,
because the ball doesn't end up on the green,
it ends up on the fridge.
I know.
Or it still pays.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
I guess he's putting.
I do like the scene, though, where he's like, you hit the shot, you're fired.
Yes.
Where he's the caddy.
And he didn't think he got fired after he hit it.
I mean, I love that scene.
I'll bring it up now.
He looked genuinely surprised.
He's a great moment with that scene because right there is Phil Mickelson,
gambling on him.
Yep.
Young Phil McKleson.
Who was like, fresh out of ASU.
By the way.
Happy Gilmore as well.
Were those golfers that were walking across the court?
when he was rolling and they were like,
I can't believe a guy named Tin Cubs.
Those are all real pros.
That was Cory Pavan.
Paven has the worst line in the movie.
You're exactly right.
His, I can't believe his name is going to be beneath mine.
It was awful.
It was a bad line.
Yes, it was awful.
I paused the thing.
It was so bad.
You're right.
That was Corey Pavin.
One thing that I really,
that stood out to me was the sports nostalgia.
Like, I love golf and all that stuff.
But then you see the CBS sports flag.
behind the stadium holes with the different color, the yellow color.
The throwback stuff reminds me of when we used to go to like college game day.
When you guys would play like Florida State, they would have their old college game day flags up.
You knew the TV trucks were there.
Same thing with CBS sports.
Big nostalgia boost.
I thought Cheech did a great job, Kyle.
Fabulous.
I did a great job.
And I thought like the scene where he broke the two clubs and then Kevin finished the bag.
Great scene.
It was a great scene.
And his frustration was so like, it was.
He was guttural. He was like, you know, Kevin didn't know at the time that he was done, done for a while.
But like the audience, you're like, okay, this is the thousandth time. This is the straw that broke
the camel's back. I think I read that John Linguzaamo was almost Cheech's character.
That would have been a big mistake. Yeah, Cheech was great. He's incredible. He also looks super old
and he's still around. He's got like over 200 acting credits. It's crazy. Yeah.
The scene where he's standing out in the rain so Kevin and Renee can get it on in the Winnebago.
Kevin and Renee are missionary style.
And then we flip to girl on top.
And Renee says, tee it up.
That was very graphic and suggested.
That's hot, dude.
I was like, holy.
She's saying I'm learning.
Look, I'm learning.
Well, another line there is the only two things you can enjoy if you're not good at them.
is golf and sex.
And I don't think that's true.
You guys have fun doing this, right?
You saying bad podcast?
Yeah.
I have fun doing it.
I don't even know I'm doing a podcast.
I was looking for holes in that line.
I mean, like there's plenty of stuff that I enjoy that I'm not doing.
I'm so simple brain.
I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.
There's also a lot of sex and golf metaphors, like putting from the rough.
Yeah.
Oh, putting from the room.
Yeah.
That's a flyer lie.
All right, let's go to illegal procedure.
Any least necessary scenes or
plot lines? Yeah, I got a plot hole
if this
is the section for that.
I'm wearing a T-shirt that says
Woody's Steakhouse and the T-shirt
says Wally's. I like that though.
Like he doesn't even know. Maybe he doesn't know. Maybe
it's a nod to him just not knowing.
And maybe it's not actually a plot hole.
But that was all I could find. There were a lot less plot
holes in Varsity Blues.
I agree. I jumped around. I did love in that scene
where he says
low percentage shot, well, so am I.
Yeah, no.
That was good.
It was one of my favorite lines.
Yeah, it was good.
He had a ton of great lines.
Almost fell over.
He's great.
I wish you would make more sports movies.
They should make a senior PGA movie with them.
Like 10 cup two.
Anything you take out of this movie,
anything that was like not necessary?
One thing I didn't appreciate was the massacre of the flies
and the gambling on it at the beginning.
Yeah.
By their fly trap,
but they're taking bets on how many flies are going to hit
certain amount of time.
I think there's a Mendoza line for animals that you can kill.
I think flies are okay.
And they were, they had racial inclusivity.
If you notice in their little band of brothers at the West Texas driving range,
there was a black guy hanging out too.
He's been a guy.
Yeah, it was great.
All represented.
DCU fan.
And also Lance Harbor's dad is in the movie.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he is.
We pointed that out.
We were watching Varsity Blues and we did the recap the other day.
He takes the money from Gary McCord.
Yeah.
There's also, so when Tinkup goes to the seven iron,
he's only hitting the seven iron right?
and he's like, I never miss with the seven iron.
I never miss with the seven iron.
It's the only truly safe club in my bag.
And they cut to him hitting a shot out of the woods,
out of the sand trap all over.
So he definitely missed with the seven iron, right?
Yeah.
If he ended up in three.
Yeah.
That's good, cowboy.
Two hours, 14 minutes.
How could we have gotten it to 155?
I don't think so.
I don't think there's any way to get it to 155.
I was looking for scenes that I thought were unnecessary.
I'm kind of with you.
I bet this guy has an idea.
And it could just end with him realizing he threw the open away.
I don't need this like consensus of a sex of like whatever.
Actually, I agree there.
Oh, you don't like on the couch?
No.
Like, hey, he's got the girl and he's got a shot at qualifying for whatever.
He's qualified for other tournaments.
I wanted him to break up with her to just show how much of a fucking self-sabotage artist he is.
Like I was kind of almost.
Stick to character.
Single vehicle accident.
Yeah, right?
Exactly. So, I mean, is he the biggest self-savitur in movie history?
Oh, I don't know. That's a large...
He got the girl. He probably won, I don't know, $80,000 for...
He probably lost $80,000 not finishing in the top five.
You know, like, there were real financial implications of that.
Sports movie history.
Yeah, I mean, like...
That's pretty good.
Not necessarily a plot hole, but I was struggling with the 83 first round.
then 62, then 64, then 78.
I'm guessing that's never happened.
I would, I had wished the first round had been like a 77.
And be able to balance out the other scores?
Yeah, an 83 followed by a 62.
It is a movie.
He said, how'd you shoot an 83?
He said, I missed a put on 18 to make 80.
Right, right.
That's 82.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was good.
I think there's going to be a lot of these.
I have one more plot hole.
I have one more plot hole.
When he beat the big jacked buddy who was throwing home of
public racial slurs around with a shovel and a rake and a baseball bat,
which leads to my question,
could an infield baseball coach who hits fungos go par on a golf course?
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, I think so, like a really good fungo coach.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Using a putter once you get to the green, but using fungo.
I think he could use the fun.
I think the best fungo coach in the world could par a hole with a fungo on.
Like, let's see.
Maybe one of our fans can take a fungo bat out and see how low they can go on a
Yeah, show us.
I thought all the sound effects from golf shots were very good except for the putts.
Every putt sounded like he was on a putt-putt golf course.
Didn't love that.
And Cowboy, can a three-wood spin back like that off a green?
I feel like a three-wood would hit and keep going.
Unless it's ridiculously, unless like that's the curve of the green, the grain of the grain,
and it brings it back.
So it needs a run way.
No, I read that's unrealistic.
I forgot one other plot hole.
So he gets the U.S. open.
Nobody's ever heard of him.
Nobody knows who he is.
He's been on sports.
Sports center like twice.
He like threw all of David Sims' clubs out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he also like hit this ball onto the like 240 yards
that nobody thought he could hit.
So like some people should know who he is.
Yeah, probably.
But in today's era he'd be a lot more famous.
Right.
You know?
If you miss Sports Center back in the day.
But Russo was right.
Like nobody's gonna remember who came in second in that tournament.
Nobody's gonna remember who won that tournament.
Reed might, but you know like nobody's gonna forget that.
in the long drive competition.
Well, it was like, what were they hitting an iron?
Yeah, they were just seeing how far.
All right, let's hit,
anybody got a least realistic sports moment?
Yeah, probably the, I don't know,
the ball rolling backwards.
Yeah.
The blue ass pond water, that's the US Open.
That thing's gonna be looking nice.
Well, also, that wasn't Pinehurst.
That wasn't like North Carolina.
That was a course in Texas.
Which actually was pretty impressive
because, you know, like I'm looking at all those pines,
Like first I'm thinking, are they going to Augusta?
And then I'm like, yeah, it's got to be North Carolina.
But it's not.
Arizona.
Yeah.
Is it?
I thought it was in Texas.
There were a couple.
There was one film in Texas, but this one was in Arizona.
U.S.
Open?
Okay.
I think you, I'll bet you $5.
I actually thought it was Texas as well in my reading.
I'll align with Cowboy.
We'll be in New Mexico.
All right.
You want to throw five in the pot?
Is this, are we talking about the U.S. Open specifically?
Yeah.
Fuck, I'm not sure.
That last hole, it's the 13th hole at a course.
I think it's a Touse.
It's definitely the 13th hole at a golf course.
Oh, okay.
The fictional US Open in the film, yeah, I'm getting there,
is supposedly North Carolina was shot
at Kingwood's Deerwood course.
And?
Kingwood, Texas.
Shit, read.
Yeah, I'll take that.
10 bucks. Kingwood.
Cash up and cash up me.
Where is Kingwood, Texas?
All right, let's keep it going.
So we got Best Real Life Athlete.
North of Houston.
Best Real life athlete, probably...
Phil Meckleson.
The golfers in the movie.
But Kevin Costor supposedly a really good athlete.
And, you know, his swing, I don't know.
Like, you guys are the golf.
And even when he swung the shovel,
he looked like he had a good baseball swing, too.
All those pro golfers, they weren't originally going to do it
because they were too expensive.
And then Gary McCord hosted a dinner with Tin Cup,
or like Kevin Kozner and Don Johnson and all the golfers and their wives to for like
camaraderie and then all the golfers were like oh this is a sick movie we'll do it for scale
no problem that's cool yeah yeah I don't think there's much competition in this one
who is Kevin yeah yeah Kevin I don't know who was a better it was always Kevin yeah
Kevin he's a line drive hitter oh Kevin has been next one's tough because crash Davis good competition
Who's the best supporting actor in this movie?
Best supporting performance.
Ooh.
Hmm.
We could talk through a couple of them.
So we got, you know, we got Don Johnson.
We got Cheech.
We got Cheech Marin.
We got Rousseau.
That'd kind of be like the big three.
I think Renee Rousseau is extremely supportive in so many ways.
Yeah, I thought she was great.
Now, I think Don Johnson was great.
I think Don Johnson was perfectly cast.
The other names we threw out,
there were holes in that casting.
I thought he was great.
He was a quintessential golf villain.
Like I put him up there.
He's not as iconic as Shooter McGavin,
but he's up there.
He's cast just as well.
How about TCU guy?
Yeah.
Relatable.
Went to TCU in real life,
so he had all the gear.
He gets tired out there.
How many lines did Lou Myers have?
Who's Lou Myers?
The black guy.
Not a lot.
You know?
Yeah.
Weirdly, Renee Russo also played like the similar character in major league, right?
Where it's like, uh, um, she's dating Dorn.
That's right.
Roger Dorn.
Yes.
We're just like,
dating Dorn.
She's, she's, she's, you got it.
She's dating, uh, I think another baseball player, but then come, um, uh, what's his name?
Sniper guy comes back and they had a history.
Baranger back together.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Tom Beager. Jake.
There were just like six actors in the mid-90s, huh?
Right.
Well, I mean, there's six actors in this movie.
Like, the casting goes like two rows deep before you get to, you know.
Ex- Jim Nance.
Extras, yeah, Jim Nance.
Jim Nance is number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, like 14 on this list of cast members in Tinkup.
It's Don Johnson for me in a runaway, even though.
I really like what you.
I got to give a big shout-out to whoever was in charge of wardrobe in this movie.
I know we mentioned Costner's wardrobe.
a lot, but Renee Russo had some ahead of her time golf fits, you know, not a bunch of branding
on her shirts and hats like really kept it clean with it. You know, she had the wide brim,
wide brim half and just a white t-shirt. And her swing wasn't that bad when she was like
swinging and missing on purpose for the movie. Like her swing's not that bad.
Best outfit is Kevin Costner, all his outfits. The outfit that he's walking to the strip club in,
I'm going to. His on course outfit, he had the Canton Hall of
Fame jacket pants and the black shirt and it reminds me a lot of Phil
Mickleson's fits yep hey one one thing going back to opening scenes was this my
Apple TV fucking up or did they shoot that opening scene in like old film you know
seemed like it had some type of filter it probably wasn't old film was like made to
look like it was old yeah yeah I was like damn an old Western tube stone
that old like if you've ever seen the movie traffic how they put like filters
yeah to have different colors yeah kind of like that's a represent
different area. It was intentional. Whatever.
You guys kind of started on best and worse dress, any other nominations in there for the
Drip Award? No, just Kevin Costner.
When Costner's wearing that swing aid glasses?
Yeah, that, that seems great too.
Like, it's such your quintessential golfer trying to get better and we'll do anything.
Yeah. Crazy things to get better.
All right, best prop.
Best prop was McCord's drink dispenser.
Yep. The drink dispenser was on the list. The VW bug that picks up golf balls.
That's the RV.
Yeah.
Kevin Costner in this movie is my kind of guy for a couple reasons.
Well, it may not be much of a river to you, but to me it's the Mississippi, the Danube, the Amazon.
Hell, I brought you to a river.
That's a nature kind of thing, isn't it?
He also likes the Waffle House.
He's got an RV.
I love the fact that he keeps his golf balls.
Like when you go to a hotel and you take the soap, which I'm sure you do.
I don't really leave home.
Especially when he's losing.
They steal everything.
And, you know, I just, I thought, I thought he was, he was our kind of guy.
He would fit in well here.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I'd take the seven iron, the one he didn't break.
Yeah.
I'd take the, the chili dipped wedge that was in two pieces.
The, uh, the best prop, and I know this is true about the golf course, but it's the 13th hole.
They had to build the lake.
I think the lake's the best prop.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
How about the driving range, dude?
I mean, some of those, uh, uh,
numerical placards that are out there, have one of those up on the wall.
Nice.
All right.
Well, one of the strengths of the movie I thought was the use of music, really set the scene
like West Texas.
Was there a song that stood out to you guys?
Well, can I say Kevin Costner's sausage might be a prop?
I mean, he's always got that one piece of sausage in his mouth.
He's ever eating the sausage.
He's rising up Renee Russo, smell like Jimmy Dean.
Yep.
You know?
Do you think he goes with a honey, uh, honey,
syrup and honey on that sausage?
No, I think it's just raw, dude.
Just all that packaging.
When everything turns for Kossner with his gal,
when he takes her to the river,
we hear, Let Me Into Your Heart by Mary Chapin Carpenter.
That's my favorite song from the film.
When he finally hits the seven iron and the fiddle starts playing,
that's a good one.
I don't even know the name of the song.
I got two nominations.
I got me, I got my juice.
That's character flaw by Joe Ely.
I got my juice song.
Yeah,
that's great.
The opening credit song is a little bit is better than Nata by Doug Somm,
which I really enjoyed.
And then they played a couple different times,
but there's a crapped out again by Keb Mo,
that kind of like bluesy song.
I thought it was,
Let Me Love You by John Lee Hooker,
but it was that.
Maybe we're talking about the same song.
I like that too.
Nice.
Let's make that layup line today.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
How about a.
Beville Conway Award. What was the most beautiful scene in the movie? The Beville Conway Award was when
they had the CBS production team doing it when they had the old school CBS sports flag. It just felt
it was a nostalgia bomb. I agree. That course looked great. Obviously not in North Carolina and the
atmosphere of that final scene I thought was great and we didn't really watch a lot of like
match play during the during the movie until the end. I mean like we watched him play a little
little bit. But it was like cool. They drew it out. It was like a long scene and it was gorgeous.
It was gorgeous. It looked like the real thing right down to the golfers. Yeah, they did a great
job with the athletes in the movie. Yeah. I think it'd be hard pressed to come up with a non-bevel
Conway. Love the driving range scenes. Love the Winnebago when everybody's packed in all his people
after the Waffle House. Another great looking scene. How fun does it look to be a pro golfer like night one
you get shit-faced.
I mean, he had three hours to get sober.
He obviously wasn't sober.
I could feel that scene.
Like, you know, when you can feel...
It was a varsity blue scene.
Speaking of his music,
then Romeo plays that little Mexican song for him right there
after he passes out.
Yep, that's a good one.
I mean, and then night two, you have sex with René Russo.
Night three, you go to the Waffle House
with all your buddies and have a sleepover.
And, like, you're playing in the U.S. open.
It's like, being a golfer must be cool.
if that's what it's like, it's a pretty good itiner.
Be pretty amazing just to be that good at something.
Yeah.
Well, I don't either sex with Renee Rousseau, whoever it is.
Yeah.
You know, you get some nookie in the, in the Winnebago.
I think that leads us right into Smoke Show of the movie.
Oh, I've got to go back to the cast.
Besides Kevin Costner, the obvious pick for me is Renee Rousseau.
I agree with you, Kyle.
I mean, she was, she was devious.
All right.
Any golden goose pump moments?
Yeah, give me another ball.
I mean, like, there's something about...
When he snaps at the caddy without looking at him
and he goes like this and he's looking at where he's going to hit it,
I'm like, fucking relatable.
I've never been as good at anything as Pink Cup is at golf,
but I can definitely identify with being a self-sabotor.
And like just doing it your way.
Confident in your craft.
Well, maybe not confident in your craft,
but like this is the way I'm going to live my life.
Got it.
And that scene for me was goosebumps.
Stuck in your ways.
Yeah.
I mean, like, some people might not like living that way.
Some people might not, you know,
Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
That's a song about Roy.
You know what I mean?
Like, he does things his fucking way.
You might not understand him.
But he'll die young.
1992, one car accident.
Cadillac.
All right.
Where are they now?
Sandlot exercise.
if these characters are still alive in
23, where would they be?
Roy's dead. Well, I'd say if Roy
didn't die, he would still be in West Texas
at the driving
range, enjoying life.
That's how the movie was supposed to end, too.
That's probably the most realistic ending
was him not going on tour.
The monster goes back to his cave eventually
and lurks. I think he's got like a failed
top golf rival that's
secretly controlled by the Texas mob or something
like that. He gets a little
gotten dead. Do you mean the narco? So they should do a
Tin Cup 2.
Yeah.
Honestly,
Tin Cup 2 would be pretty good.
Like, just,
you know, Roy, older,
fucking some new challenge.
Maybe don't mess with it.
It was a good.
It was a good movie.
Yeah.
Don't fuck with it.
Don't mess with it.
Yeah.
No,
that'd be cool with,
like,
modern golfers doing their cameos as well.
Yeah.
I don't know what he's doing.
Maybe he's trying to get on the senior tour.
They did a caddy shot.
They could really just lampoon it.
You know what I mean?
You know,
you know,
like grumpy or old men?
Yeah.
He was just a little older.
They also did a godfather too,
Macon.
Speaking of grumpy old man,
shout out to Scott.
Yeah.
That's good.
How about David Sims?
What's he doing, though?
David Sims.
He's avoiding
watching 50 Shades of Grey.
He's...
So I just found out that his daughter,
David Sims' daughter,
Don Johnson's daughter,
is the one who,
the gal from 50 Shades of Grey,
which I didn't read or watch,
but I know that there's a lot of sexy time.
Hmm.
It would be like a Sidney-Sweeney type situation.
My parents had to shut it off.
So I think Don Johnson's on his like fifth iteration of that blonde walking out of the gallery.
And he's probably Nance's...
Do you think he stepped up every time?
...partner in the booth.
You know, just had a really good career and now he's cash and checks.
I got Republican senator.
Republican senator.
Ah.
Seems evil.
I can see that.
I can care about people.
But again, seems evil.
Yeah.
I mean, like the fans, but yeah, yeah.
I would put the Republican senator as the guy that Tinkup beat with the garden tools.
He said, I'm going to report you to do that.
Yeah, that guy.
That guy's a problem.
Cheech.
Dead.
Dead.
Yeah, or 30 years.
Yeah, or 30 years past.
Yeah, this is an easy exercise.
Some of the members of this cast.
All right, let's give our closing thoughts.
Any recasting?
if we did this in 2023, who would you like to see in these roles?
Recasting is easy for me.
For Romeo, I'd go with Michael Peña.
Mm-hmm.
We'd pull up a Michael Peña picture so we can all be convinced here.
For Roy, if we're going to go a real golfer, somebody with a real swing and that kind of demeanor, I'm going to say Brooks Kepka.
Reney.
Probably a terrible actor.
He could pull it off.
To be Roy, dude.
He could pull it off.
Page Spirannic.
I want to nail you down on this.
Pate Spiramian.
Brooks Keppka couldn't act half as cool as Roy McIwell.
I think that's part of the deal.
That's part of the allure with Brooks Keppka.
It would be so dry the whole time.
So far this is terrible.
Tommy Fleetwood.
Tommy Fleetwood.
Page Sparantic for Renee.
Okay.
She can play golf.
But that's like I just said that Renee's swing wasn't that bad.
Okay.
And she could play that.
I don't know how to play golf thing.
And she's an actress.
David Sims would be either Bradley Cooper or,
or my David Sims.
Tom's, Tom Wams, Gans.
Nice, Matthew McFedion.
He's great.
I got Anders home for David Sims.
Andrew's home.
I could see him being the like really annoying golfy dude.
Anders.
Or it would be.
Or it would be the guy who played the Russian pitcher from.
Oh, Ike Barronholz.
Like Barronholz.
Yeah.
I'll join you, Bradley Cooper for David Sims.
He would be great.
I've got, for Romeo, I've got Kieran Culkin.
okay
I have
Anne Hathaway
in the uh-huh
in the Renee Russo role
and Dave Chappelle
as Roy McAvoy
Okay that's good
I like a lot of charisma
Yeah
Just
fuck it
I'm gonna go for it
Mm-hmm
You think Dave Chappelle could swing a golf club?
Yeah
Yeah
I see I just can't picture it in my mind's eye
Robert De Niro
Roy
Al Pacino
She'll
still shooting.
Yeah, they do the Irishman with Robert De Niro.
I don't have anybody.
Or Sacey directing.
Yeah.
Shelter comes on.
I don't have anybody.
All good.
Any closing thoughts?
I thought that was fun.
I really enjoyed watching that movie again.
I hadn't seen him.
I want to go play golf now because of this movie.
I thought it was a really good movie.
I thought it's everything that like,
um,
it's hard to pull off a rom-com that guys like.
Yep.
That's a rom-com.
Okay.
Like,
and it's everything summer catch could have been.
you know man summer catch
did it for me when she was mowing the long
yeah well jessica girls that was
the law are from carrying the movie
worth the whole deal yeah
oh it's about baseball i met justin timberlake correct
i didn't see the baseball is married to her i met jesson timberlake
and i just stared him down and i was like i just you
you bastard how did you do it well i know how he did it yeah
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okay make this is your baby
take it away
we're going to do a draft
we're going to draft things from the 1990s
1990s
where I don't know
30 years ago now at this point
which is hard to believe
they they span 10 years from
1990 to 1999
now I didn't know when we were talking about it
if Kyle
remembered enough of the 90s
like I feel like we're eligible
yeah I there was
I was an 88 December baby so
when I first realized where I was and who I was and how I was, I was probably 1994, 1995, I would say.
Oh, age. I was thinking CTE.
You know what I'm saying?
1994 was probably when I realized, you know, where I'm at.
Your 1994 was my, what?
1990.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Four years apart.
Okay, good.
That tracks.
Okay, I think we can do this.
It was, I mean, I admit.
Take me back.
Take you back, Kyle.
Presidents were young.
They were popular.
Technology was more simple.
Celibacy.
We were all celibate.
Life was simpler.
I got the order for the draft.
If you guys want to know who's going who.
Well, why do we go through a fair process?
Yeah.
Has this been randomized?
I haven't seen this.
Is Ernst & Young involved?
Oh, I'm sitting in Scott's office.
Oh, Ernst & Young.
Shout out to my wife.
I'm sitting in the, I'm sitting in Scott's
office, I'm the boss, so I get to pick the order. Just make it fair, Matt.
Okay, I got three pieces of paper in my hand. I'm going to draw them one at a time,
randomly pulling from down here. The first one is Chris. Second one is Kyle, and the third one is
Macon. All right, I'll take Roundball Rock, John Tesh. Great song. Brings me
back to watching the NBA in the 90s.
I don't know if this is serious or not if it is.
That's a great pick.
That's one of my all-time favorite songs.
Ever seen John Tesh live at Red Rocks?
Of course you have.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Rockception.
Red Rocks, Roundball Rock, John Tesh up there,
just hammering away out in the elements.
Man, that's John Tesh.
That's the name that I'm going to have to Google.
All of that.
You know Round Ball Rock.
Well, you too.
No, I don't.
Making will you do it?
Oh, B.A.
Yeah.
Well, right now, it's
college hoops on Fox, which is so
very foreign and wrong. But it was
NBA on NBC, like the peacock
would come sliding in from one side
of the screen.
Like the...
And you knew.
Welcome to the United
Center.
There's Michael Jordan.
I love that song.
Round ball.
rock. That's a good one. That's a really good one. And you know what? I just had a call from upstairs and my
number one pick has been taken over by somebody bought out my number one pick. Okay. The Alan Parsons
Project, the Bulls intro. Oh, wow. Come on. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I just
use that for something. We use that at my wedding for the groomsmen and the bridesmaids. We use it all
That's a go-to. I'm surprised it didn't make my top 10 songs of all time because if we're going all-
Oh, I know when I used it. When we were at the hospital and Meg was getting gurneyed into the
operation room, operating room to get her caesarian section. I was blasting. What's the name of that song?
Alan Parsons Project, what is it, Serious? Well, the nurses didn't appreciate it.
Everybody just thinks, oh my God, MJ's coming when that song comes on. You know what I'm saying?
night's at guard probably popping in the 90s from north carolina six foot six
michael jordan i do that with my kids i give him a big intro they get excited if i could
poke one hole in that pick kyle it would be i think it was there in round 11 or 12 well you know what
i'm just like an on the spot guy i'm a gm the drafts with my with my gut and i had something else
on my heart which i'm sure you'll hear about soon but that one came up chris
said the song, you explained me the song, I got into the song.
And then I thought about the making you're up with your first pick.
Third overall, I'm going to go Blockbuster Video.
Now, I can't quite explain the feeling of going to a Blockbuster video.
Like, you would have your heart set on something, either a movie or a video game.
And them shits might not be there when you get there.
And when they were, it was a rush.
You can feel that big plastic packaging.
if this was a VHS, there's another one that you could pick.
If you didn't rewind it fully, you'd get charged.
Kind of the original Starbucks, when you think of it,
it kind of drove out the mom-and-pop video stores.
Kingston worked at one.
It was called Sneak Reviews.
He was there for the pornography.
But it was just this big box, too big to fail
that ultimately failed pretty quickly with the Netflix.
They were everywhere.
They had everything.
I remember Howie Jr. and I used to go.
We didn't have an Nintendo 64, but occasionally if mom and dad went on a trip, the babysitter would take us to Blockbuster.
We'd rent N64 and we would play the snow level, Golden Eye, see if you fastest.
Now, you could buy candy there too.
I remember Milk Duds being in abundance.
We used to get the sour ropes there on the way out.
Grab you a couple Nicholas Cage movies, maybe a, you know, a PlayStation OG Playwrights.
PlayStation game.
Is that where hipsters started?
Because as you said,
making,
sometimes the movie or whatever
that you wanted wasn't there.
So you had to watch something
that was maybe a little deeper
on the shelf.
I think that's where people like Chris
started to get into the deep cut.
Did you just call me a hipster?
Not a hipster,
but you definitely have a taste
that dives deeper into the subject matter.
Excuse me for having taste.
I may be making this up,
but I think when we were eight years old,
we would go and we'd be like,
oh, damn, it's PG-13.
But how do you card of a 10-year-old?
Well, they're doing it now in Virginia.
My daughter's got a passport.
She's not even two years old.
Okay, my pick?
He's a snake draft, yeah?
Oh, no, it's snake draft.
Kingston, yeah, commission?
A snake making us up.
Okay, the pick is the Dallas Cowboys.
Now, World Champs in 92, 93, and 95.
Playoff appearances in 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, and 99.
How about them Cowboys, Troy, Emmett, Michael, and not shit since.
No division titles from 98 until 2007.
They were America's team in the 1990s.
And frankly, no longer.
90s Sports Center.
Oh, fuck.
Kyle, you're up.
Let me refer to my notes here again.
So this is my second pick.
Good pick, mate.
Presidential BJs.
It's a good pick.
Probably one of the larger covered things in the 90s, right?
I mean, well, we don't know if it was well covered or not, Kyle.
Well, we all, we're talking about it.
Yeah.
You get what I mean?
That was a big deal.
Presidential BJs, a thing of the past.
Why?
Chris, you and I were just making the same joke, right?
About, yeah, dick size.
Yeah, okay, good, guys.
All right, good.
A much more decent political climate generally, yeah, except for maybe the sexual stuff?
Yeah.
That's a good point.
Okay.
I'll go sports center, 90s Sports Center.
You know, the old song, the horns, the, you know, all the OG anchors.
I mean, we talk about, you know, rich eyes in, friend of the program.
We talk about Kenny Maine, friend of the program, Stuart Scott.
Scott Van Pelt, I don't know if he was a 90s guy.
Was he turned to the century?
Maybe he barely fit in under the clock.
Dan Patrick is who I think of.
Yeah, throw him in there.
90s SportsCenter, man.
I'm not saying that SportsCenter today is not good.
We have some friends of the program who work at SportsCenter,
but the golden era of SportsCenter was in 1990.
Well, that's when we found out what the score was.
I mean, it was vitally important.
You didn't have to look at the daily progress or the Washington Post.
Dude, in the morning, can you remember actually going to sleep with no internet as a kid and a hockey game goes into like two overtimes?
You got to go to bed.
You know, sometimes I learn about the score in third period, but if I was up early enough, Neil Everett had me.
That's right.
Neil.
Chris, you're up again?
Shit, dude.
I'm not ready.
Lava lamps.
Lava lamps, man.
I used to go to Spencer's, get me a lava lamp.
I mean, I had an orange lava lamp.
I had a black light wall.
I had a cork board wall with all black light posters, marijuana, paraphernalia all over the walls.
At that point, I wasn't doing drugs, but...
You got a mushroom poster?
It was like a society of mushroom people and treat.
Yeah, dude.
It was a mushroom.
I had like, yeah, I basically had like, you know, what's the movie with Dave Chappelle, the movie about getting stoned.
Half baked.
Yeah, I was basically, yeah, I had basically, I was like, my room was like a half-baked set.
And I was the kid that my friends brought me to a party and took me over to a maple tree and were like, hey, you want to smoke some pot?
Like, I had no idea.
And I had a maple leaf spliff in my hand ready to light it up.
And the boys were like, no, you're a loser.
So, yeah, I had all that stuff all over my room, but had no idea.
You had a bumper sticker.
I remember on your bed, your headboard or whatever.
it said gravity rules.
Did it really?
Yeah, I don't know if I feel that way.
And had a rules scratched out
and said sucks.
Hey, a kid nostalgia generally,
lava was like a really big deal.
Like we were afraid of lava and quicksand,
but like everything outside was lava, you know?
Oh, kids, I got good news for you.
You probably already know this,
but Flores lava is like one of the most popular TV shows
in the kids,
in the kids
weight class right now.
I did not know that.
So lava's your pick?
No, I think you're up.
I was just...
Kyle, you were up.
I was just doing commentary.
Okay, this is funny.
This is throwing me off.
I would say the Friday movies,
Friday and next Friday.
Oh, wow.
For me, culturally, shit,
I didn't...
I'd never been to L.A.
and hung around motherfuckers
that are funny like that.
To me, culturally, I was white.
And, like, watching that, it's like, looking back, the shit that we were learning in 1995 or 1996,
whenever that original Friday came out, we had no business watching.
But I think it ended up helping us out.
I was like, she doesn't look like Janet Jackson.
I just saw her on the fucking halftime show.
I had unique tastes for a Charlottesville, you know, seven-year-old.
All right, makes.
Don't be a menace while drinking your juice in the hood.
100%.
Do I wear the neck nine with the sandals?
Do you?
have a problem.
I was going around free period like,
do we have a problem?
Nobody got it.
My pick is the Oregon Trail.
It's really,
it's the only reason
I know how to pronounce words like
dysentery and cholera.
I mean, it was the original,
it was the original X.
It was the original Twitter, you know?
Twitter, not Ecstasy.
But you would just,
you would try, and if you failed,
you try again.
axles and in wagons and oxen oxen um your oxen has died fording the river uh another one along the
same vein mavis beacon wasn't as fun but technically you were doing school work and it was
pipe fast that was that's the most 90s thing ever is those floppy disks do you remember floppy
disc that's a slap the old slap the pod racer floppy disk in there and move a couple pixels
Man, 90s parents had it good, didn't they?
I mean, you were like, I don't know if my kids playing Oregon Trail
when he was supposed to be doing schoolwork at school.
Now people are like jacking off to NFTs in the stall.
Yes.
It's a totally different world out there.
Did you guys see the clip recently with the,
where in the world is Carmen San Diego,
Acapella Group singing the theme song?
I did see that.
Holy Toledo.
Why did I see that?
I don't know, but I've probably watched 150 times.
The guy with the braided rat tail was something.
They're no fitting suits.
Man, they were terrific.
I'm still up.
I'm going to pick, this is, okay, how about this?
Busy signals.
You call somebody.
It's busy.
You get a busy signal.
They don't pick up because they're on the other line, and you can't.
It's like a couple of beeps, right?
You don't know what a busy.
See, this is what I'm worried about, Kyle.
I'm on, but this is what I'm talking about.
I hadn't reached, what is the word?
I didn't realize what's happening.
Puberty.
I wasn't making phone calls.
Yeah.
You were prepusicent.
Pre-pubescing.
Pre-communicative.
No, I don't want to lump in too many.
Kyle already said floppy disk, which may be on some big boards.
But you would use a landline to call another landline,
and you'd get a busy signal,
you get an answering machine.
The whole phone thing was very different.
And you know when you got a busy signal,
what you had to do was you had to hang up
and then wait an indeterminate amount of time
and then try again.
And you might still get it busy.
They could be having a real long-winded 90s talk.
Oh, here's another, Kyle.
If you don't want the phone to ring for the rest of the night,
you don't put it on a do not disturb,
you take it off the hook and everybody gets a busy
right mawra right right I just figured to unplug the line we had to do that up here
because we had in Montana when we bought this little cottage here it used to be the
phone number used to be the American Red Cross wholesome so we would get
calls all day and night well I didn't people are calling the Red Cross like that
but I need blood yeah like people are calling me asking
asking for a pint of blood
So we just took the phone off the hook
Is it my turn or is a Kyle?
I just see a wagon full of people
Trail showing up to Chris's Montana
Is this Independence Rock?
We need turnicits.
So Maya?
Yes sir.
Okay, I want to make sure this is a good pick
and I'm going to look at my list here because
That's good.
I have a good one.
I can't get down with a snake draft thing.
Kevin Kossner sports movement.
movies. Good plug. I think that I're running away with this draft, Kyle. You're a real natural.
I grew up thinking that, is this bad or good? Uh, no, it's great. I grew up thinking that Kevin
Costner was a fabulous athlete. And then, you know, as I grew up growing older, I also think he's a
great cowboy. But the 90s stuff, he was playing golf. He was playing baseball. He was a veteran
baseball player in the minor leagues as Crash Davis. He was a home run hidden, just nugget
drop into rookies vet and he was funny and he was like the heart drop right for at least a young
baseball player and then tin cup we just did the review check it out on green light we did that as well
that was a lot of fun he's a great golfer bull Durham 1988 not to not to nitpick Kyle I think
it's a really good pitch yeah you got to hit the mascot I was a 96 mile an hour throwing left
hander and dad would tell me every game just hit the mascot one time
Is it my pick?
Yep.
Being horny.
I felt like that was easy in the 90s.
I mean, like the level of horniness that I was able to accomplish in the 90s,
I feel like is Guinness Book of World Records worthy.
I mean, there's no way to measure how horny a kid is.
But in 1998, I was the horniest person on the face of the planet.
Fast forward to 2003, 38 years old.
There's more to be horny about.
now than there ever was.
I mean, everything is at the tips of your fingers.
And I'm just not horny.
I'm just not horny.
I mean, I'm just not.
1998, all we had was, um, I'm trying to think of a,
my favorite, uh, swimsuit model from the 90s.
Petra and Nemcovic.
Tyra Banks.
That's all we had.
Petra Namcova?
Yeah.
Whatever her name was.
That was a good, okay.
Wait, no, Chris gets to go again.
Playboys.
playboys yeah but those were hard to come by
massaginist i get it chris no pun intended hey buddy boy
uh-huh uh my pick okay
daytime tv yeah yes okay you know there's a lot of uh i mean jerry springer just died for
fuck's sake um yeah sorry
yeah he died dude he he he died moore i mean he's getting up there in years i don't
even know if if judge jude jude
like at one point I'm gonna look up and be like yeah she's around and she's what is she so I mean like
there was a there was a plethora of options when it came to daytime TV and today I don't know who's
filling those shoes like who are the next generate it's like you know with the quarterbacks
when Mori dies it's not going to be like when Ben Rathosberger retires and there's five exciting
new quarterbacks like these people don't grow on trees I mean look at the wheel of four
situation right now. Vanna White's been there 30 years. She's been trying to get a new
contract. They're going to end up tagging her. Like it's a whole thing. So daytime TV, not as many
options. Shout out Ricky Lake. Shout out. Ricky Lake. Rosie O'Donnell. So it's me? Yeah. Kyle loves
Rosie. Go ahead. Rosie. Laser tag. Yes. I mean, what are we doing if we're not saying
laser tag when you're talking about growing up in the 90s and our parents throwing us in a pitch black
room in Canada in a pitch in any town really that was the first time we ever played was it we went to we went to
Vancouver and we were at Whistler yeah because dad was shooting one of his movies dad was shooting a movie
we were young I don't really remember it but we did play laser tag for days I mean just remember the
feeling of going in and strapping that vest on and getting your sensors right and then making sure that
you had your fingers on the metal thing so you could shoot the gun the right way,
and you could go out track your scores.
That was the first time the kids were like tracking their scores.
And nobody does.
And another thing is, like when we were in Canada,
I don't know if I've told this story on the pod before,
I think dad told it, but Danny, who was his snut man,
took Howie, young Howie for a motorcycle ride in the parking lot
and tipped the bike over because I forget it was like there was gravel.
They were on a dirt bike and there was some loose gravel.
It was loose gravel.
Yeah, it was like a,
It was like a freak accident.
Howie spiral fractured his leg.
Two days later, they wheeled him into the laser tag arena to play.
Like he got to play like a make a wish kid.
We were playing so much laser tag that Howie, fresh out of the hospital in a cast up to his hip,
got wheeled in there to play laser tag.
Can you imagine how mad Howie was when Chris and I went to go in there?
And mom and dad were expecting him just lay left.
And he's like, I want to go in there too with my wheelchair in the dark.
Yeah.
You could hear him coming, though.
It was like a, it was like a disadvantage competitive.
You could see his battery light.
It wasn't like Debo's coming.
It was like, yeah, yeah.
What was the name of the Charlottesville spot?
Well, there was a paintball place called Splat House.
Yeah, Splat House was cool.
It might have just been called LaserT.
It was Alpha, something.
Alpha base.
Yeah.
Star Base Alpha.
Star Base Alpha.
Star Base Alpha.
What a pole.
boys the star star ship troopers hell of a name all right bar star ship troopers
showers man how it felt that about that scene in 1998
i don't feel anything right now i just remember is i think was just a bunch of like budget porn
stars right yeah they went down to like brazers and they were like anybody want to do a movie
he wanted to do a movie for cheap and they tossed budget went towards giant beetle they tossed
Stabella danger a laser tag gun and they were like, let's shoot.
Get those aliens!
Brasers is now free.
I'm picking something.
Oh, wrong why.
I'm picking something that predates the 90s and is also still around, but just bear with me.
Ash trays, ash trays and cars, ash trays.
Still use them.
Ash trays and airplanes.
I know you do.
Smoking on airplanes and restaurants.
Dog.
We would walk.
into restaurants and they would say smoking or non and it's like well uh non and then they'd
then they'd walk over to the table and just take the ash tray that would be the non smoking section
it's like y'all got you all got two separate zones in here or what because i can see that guy's
smoking right now yeah wild wild wild as can be ashtrays i mean a generation removed from
chicks you know with the bun in the oven smoking a pack a day hell yeah those cigarettes
that's led to a bunch of World Series champions and, you know, Super Bowl champs.
I love using an ashtray, dude.
I love using an ashtray.
Okay, who's up next?
It's me.
I'm going to.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, come on.
This is going well.
We should just keep going.
All right, two more rounds.
Maybe we can do a robust honorable mention, you know?
What round is this?
It's about to be round six.
Chris having so much.
We've got to go nine rounds for the 90s.
That was Macon.
Bacon had his production hat on.
That's what you said he wanted to do.
So let's do it.
I'm picking boy bands.
Now a boy band is loosely defined as a vocal group consisting of young male singers,
usually in their teenage years at the time of formation.
Generally, boy bands perform love songs marketed towards girls and young women.
Many boy bands dance as well as sing.
Backstreet Boys 93, NSYNC-95.
This jives with MTV, TRL, Carson Daly.
And now, like, we had to pretend like we didn't like those songs,
but now I think we can freely admit that a lot of those songs were and our bangers.
Who's pretending?
Oh, back then, back then.
Yeah.
Well, the problem was my first CD at Plan 9 was I went to Plan 9 with my mom.
That'd be a good pick.
And she was like, you get to pick a CD today, Kyle.
And I just was like, ADD, I didn't have a plan.
It's how I shop still.
I walked in.
I was like, I saw Backstreet Boys.
And I was like, grabbed it.
That was my first CD.
Really?
Wow.
By the way, the Hanson guys, they were, they were almost hot, weren't they?
They were beautiful people.
They were beautiful people.
They, they, most of the other 13-year-old to 17-year-old boy bands just made me jealous.
Like, I didn't want to hear my girlfriend's talking about it.
But Hansen kind of made me feel funny.
From a distance, they, you know.
Trevor Lawrence.
Hey, hey, Chris.
yeah the first CD I can remember
that I had was fairweather Johnson by hooty and the blowfish
and then uh
guy named mark brian comes and sings at your water boys function this year
and I've never been more starstruck by a guy that can like walk around without
being noticed ever ever yeah I was like holy shit that's one of the blowfish
and that yeah he was super cool too the whole rest of the
night I was just watching deep cut hooty in the blowfish 90s charlest and south
carolina let her cry I also got to meet Nick lackey yeah
I know I know I know um by the way look at the look at the
hanson one of them looks like a teenage girl still like if you went to the dance if you went
to the dance now the one on the left if you went to a if you went to the like the high school
dance with the middle brother with the the the middle brother with the the middle brother
from Hanson and you walked in most people are all right the middle one is yeah the middle one is hot
no he's hot like in a in a heterosexual type of way no i'm just saying dude it was it would they
were like an outline on the middle picture okay uh next pick Kyle uh my last pick it's got to be
something that went away for a long time it's not your last pick something that went away for a long time
that we all enjoyed everybody on this just
call today and it's starting to make a comeback tiger's trying to make a comeback with it but uh put put put put
never left dude no no no no tell me the last new pup putt place that you went to uh i went to one that
had a pretty updated setup in columbia falls yeah well tiger woods has a place called what is it
pop stroke something like i think it's pop stroke you may be onto something like the design of putt putt
courses i think that has taken a pretty significant break we're probably mostly dated yeah i'm just
same okay um we need more okay uh i'll go i'll go music videos because we were just talking about
mtv i mean i couldn't boil it down just like mtv total request live or rap city the basement
or mt vows with kurt loader somebody was asked me the other night about you know do i remember
when jerry garcia died yeah i had no idea really who the dead were but i can remember very
distinctly up here in montana watching mt vows and kurt loiter delivering
me the news. Like this was the way you got your music news and they had banger music videos of all
genres playing around the clock. Like whatever happened to that. I don't even know if MTV's still
a thing, but it's just Rob Deere Deck now. Yeah, it's just like it's like, you know, when you get on
non-college basketball TBS, I think it is, and then it's like dude perfect all year.
It's the same thing. They're just showing Rob Drydeck on Loop.
Gear deck. Dry deck.
Nice pick. You get to go again?
Yeah, good job.
Okay. Simple pictures,
Polaroids, low-quality
cameras.
I think, like, when you took a picture, it wasn't quite like
in the 1920s where you had to, like, schedule it ahead.
You had pictures, yeah, low-quality.
You know,
it wasn't like you got people together by a covered wagon
and they had the big flashbulb and you had to wait, like,
hours for the picture, that sort of thing
or stand still for a long time, like did it back in the day.
But it was a big deal when you took a picture.
Like, you know, you only had so many pictures in the camera,
and people got really good kind of nostalgic looking 90s pictures.
I love the date on the picture.
I love seeing the little orange date on the bottom right corner of a picture.
I love a Polaroid.
We actually have a Polaroid now, trying to bring it back.
But another thing that high-quality pictures did is it caused a mental health crisis.
You know, honestly, it has.
Like, cameras getting better caused the mental health crisis
because either you look like shit
or everybody online is doctoring up their pictures.
And the cameras work better than our eyes do.
So it's like when you look at something under,
it's like, you know, girls,
they want to click and drag every picture to see skin
and all that stuff.
You don't notice that if you're just hanging out in conversation.
Let's go back to Polaroids, man.
Well, even disposable, do you remember all the hope?
Like you just had to hope you took a good picture
You had to hope you had wind up
Underwater disposables
Unreal
They were the fucking worst
That was a bridge too far
I got a
My clownfish looks like a UFO
So anyways
All right Kyle
Oh man
You want me to throw you on Kyle
I had low quality sports
broadcasts
that it crosses a lot of state lines here with what Chris was talking about.
But yeah, I mean, not being able to see everything, not knowing what people look like.
You like that?
Yeah, yeah.
You like watching a grainy.
I like the old stuff.
I like to watch when we used to, when I first got in the league in 2013, I was looking at film from the Saints from when Jari Evans and Carl Nicks were playing.
And Drew Breeze was like at the height of the NFL production-wise.
And the film just looked different than when I was in 2020.
point. That steps like 4K
now. You can see everything
so clearly. I just kind of
like the nostalgia of looking at the
older film and stuff. Yeah.
You never saw an outline of anybody's piece.
No, no pieces.
No pieces.
Big shoulder pads, though. So that's my
pick. Big shoulder pads.
Okay. Your pick is big shoulder pads.
Yeah.
That may be the better pick.
That's a good pick. That's a better
That's a good pick.
That's a good pick.
All right.
That's good.
I'm going to pick AOL instant messenger.
Now, it really only took off like 98, 99, but do you remember if you like somebody, you were
crushing on somebody, and then the sound effect of the creaking door open, and it could be the
one.
Conversely, there was a sound effect of a door slamming shut.
and if she leaves without saying hey I'm up out that's a bad night you we would we would think about
our away messages forever all the time this is how people learn to use acronyms like tty y l I did not
I still use full sentences with with periods and stuff but holy smokes man that was uh that was
awesome and stressful and it was everything it really was everything there for several years
Gridge Griege slanger 13
I'm up
I'm up
How many more rounds we got Matt
Are you still
Two this is the eighth round
Okay
All right
Mario cart on Nintendo 64
Yeah
Yeah like simple Mario card
Simple Mario cart
Yeah because my kid is kicking my fucking ass
In 200 Cs on Mario right now
Like I cannot beat him
Like I used to beat him all the time
I took some time off and now he's dusting me every day.
And I got to do immature things like being like, this game sucks.
You know, like I say stuff like, I'm like, you know, this game's cheeks.
I'm not playing anymore.
You know, like it's unfair, you know.
Also in the original Mario Kart, there wasn't a blue shell.
If anybody plays Mario Shrek.
There was no heat seeking first place show.
Yeah, it's basically like, and this isn't a political statement, but it is like socialism.
It's like, it's like, you know, today's Mario Kart is like a social.
socialist game because it rewards all the players in the back.
And I'm not saying you shouldn't do that, but maybe like a democratic socialist
game would be nice, where like my son, who has no skill, doesn't sit in the back for
three laps and then gets a blue shell and the infinity, the infinity question mark box.
Kid likes to grind the YouTube videos too.
He like watches all the best shortcuts and stuff like that.
Yep, he knows a short coach.
Did you guys play this game in college?
Mario cart but you you got three beers in front of you and then after the first lap you got to
put your controller down and chug a beer and then do the second lap put put it down chug a beer lap
yeah so three beers and then you got a then you got to finish the race my dad at the wedding
this weekend everybody got in a circle to have a shot and he poured it over his right shoulder
okay so chris and i were there it was the the groomsman and the bridesmaids and we do the pre-photos
And they had the tequila out.
It was like a white and Mexican wedding.
Yeah, it was Irish and Mexican, which is a great combination.
It was a party.
And they hand dad this big tequila shot.
And they go, Alcetra, Al Dutra.
And dad goes, oh, and throws over his shoulder.
And half the shot goes on his brand new seersucker.
He didn't even notice.
Idiot.
He didn't even notice.
Yeah.
Let's get these last couple picks in.
You're up, Kyle.
I'm up.
I'm going to go.
with I was thinking about entertainment stuff like bumper cars when's the last bumper car
I did last week dude no you're looking old bumper car place my pick is actually loose
jerseys neck rolls no loose jerseys is on my list no god well
loose-closed golfers you should start with a monologue about
professional golfer about pogs and then go in to lose jerseys bumper cars is the pick then
chris is up off guys it's bumper cars slash ill-fitting golf out okay well i will i will select pogs
the the amount of dopamine that would hit when you open a new little slammer yeah a little a little
pack of pogs you didn't know it was going to be in there it was a mystery i didn't know what they
did i didn't know what was good what was bad but i loved them i never
I don't think I ever played a singular solitary game of pogs.
I just collected them.
I'm surprised because that's how I got introduced to gambling
because you would gamble your pogs against somebody else,
and then if you slam theirs over,
you get to keep what you got.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I got introduced to gambling when I was with Greg Williams.
It's a joke.
He never did any of that stuff with us.
I mean, it's arguable.
that even did that stuff in New Orleans.
He did.
Worth arguing over.
Cut the snake off the pod,
the pog will die.
Cut the head off the pog,
the pog will die.
Final round, Chris, you're up.
Oh, final round.
Okay, CD books.
Yeah.
Like, just having a big book
of burnt CDs, man, in your car.
There was nothing like it.
Going to Best Buy or wherever we got,
Circuit City.
Oh, I should have drafted Circuit City.
was shaped like a literal fucking plug.
It was
majestic.
But like, you know,
going to the store to load up
on CDR, spending the day,
you know, with the, this would be a little late,
but the Chronic 2001 or something like that,
throwing that on a CDR
and playing in your high school truck,
which usually had a couple of subwifers
in it because that was really cool in the,
well, I didn't drive until 2001.
But if I'd have drove in the 90s,
I would have had subs.
that's a good pick you put your CDs in the sleeves and then you zipped up your whole
thing am i up you are uh notorious big teupac real beefs and rap um yeah so beefs and wrap
yeah like at the top so my picks are notorious big and teupac rest in peace both of
the is rest in peace but the reason you were drafted is because you were gunned down in your
prime probably this is nostalgia right i'm being nostalgic of the rappers that i enjoyed yeah that
everyone enjoyed yeah and they're not with us anymore so i'm nostalgic it's like it's in the name
damn you just blew my top with that i mean you just blew my paw with that i'm gonna slam your fog
i'm gonna i'm gonna finish things up with the club the club for those unaware uh is a thing you would
put on your steering wheel and lock so that people would not steal your car it was it was red and go
right across and it was just foolproof there's no getting through that thing frankly what about viper
security like not only did it prevent people from stealing your car but it also was an effective ad
strategy because it was like protected by viper yeah you're like I didn't get one of those
Yeah, that was pretty much every other commercial in the 90s
I was trying to get you to put a club on your Dodge Stratus
Hey, listen
Here's what we didn't talk about
This is in the Pogs category for me
Beanie Babies
Hackie Sacks
Hacky Sacks
That was coming
Hacky Sacks was the thing that the cool kids were playing with
But I wasn't one of the cool kids in the 90s
You know, so I just watched them
and then they invited me over to their house to smoke a maple tree.
Tomogachi?
Yep.
Roller blades.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
How about trolls?
I love trolls.
I had a troll birthday party.
BMX bikes.
Remember how fucking cool VMX bikes?
Pop quiz.
Pop quiz popcorn?
It was colored.
The popcorn was green.
It was red.
It was blue.
That's right.
Yeah.
How about planters peanut butter crisp?
or whatever they were.
They were just peanuts filled with what's in nutter butter.
By the way, I had nutter butter sleeve the other night.
Have you guys seen the nutter butter sleeve?
Pretty good.
Also, I missed the Budweiser frogs.
And Toys R Us and Chucky Cheese and sent in markers.
That introduced me in drugs.
Because if you smelled those markers, not only they smell very good,
but I think you got a little bit, a little hot.
MapQuest came out in 96.
Surge.
Remember the drink, surge?
Remember having to print directions in your car?
Write them down.
Or just know where the fuck you're going?
Remember not having pubes?
Yeah.
That was awesome.
Remember not having hands on my back?
Making, how do you feel?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You remember we weren't doing a lot of driving,
but you could go pick people up at the airport
and go to their gate.
Like they would walk off the plane.
You'd be like, hey, welcome.
I got the car idling out front, you know?
Just walk right on through security.
How about pre-9-11 travel?
Yeah.
Like, oh, I need to take a look at that chainsaw.
Insecure airports.
Yeah, exactly.
I just think about how divided everything must have been
because I remember how united everyone was after that.
No, but if you're united, there's no division.
All right.
Well, that was fun. That was a good draft.
Good draft making.
Really good draft.
