Green Light with Chris Long - TJ Watt! NFL Week 10 Reactions! Texans Battle Bengals, Browns Surprise Ravens & Lions vs Chargers

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

NFL Week 10 Reactions! Chris Long, Kyle Long and Nate 'Dr. Fax' Collins break down each game in the NFL - CJ Stroud's elite play vs the Bengals, Cleveland surprising the Ravens, 49ers back in control and the Cowboys rolling! TJ Watt also joins to talk Steelers vs Packers, rushing the quarterback, watching JJ Watt on CBS and maybe being a coach one day! Enjoy the recaps, enjoy the America's Teams and enjoy the Miller Lite Moments! (2:19) - America's Teams: Houston Texans, Michigan and Tommy DeVito's Dad! (19:15) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Green Bay Packers (24:00) - TJ Watt talks the Pittsburgh Steelers victory over the Green Bay Packers, pass rushing techniques, playing for Mike Tomlin and brotherly love with JJ Watt (40:47) - Jets @ Raiders (48:53) - Houston Texans at Cincinnati Bengals: CJ Stroud is Elite! (1:04:35) - 49ers @ Jaguars (1:13:19) - Cleveland Browns @ Baltimore Ravens: Cleveland's Victory Tightens AFCN (1:36:33) - Lions @ Chargers: Lions Offensive Showcase (1:42:00) - NFC Wildcard Outlook: NOLA vs Minnesota and Washington vs Seattle (1:58:30) - Ugly Games: Atlanta vs Arizona, Tennessee vs Tampa and Indy vs NE (2:09:28) - Miller Lite Moments (2:31:50) - MNF Preview Delivered by Little Caesars Want to win a chance to watch the NFL Conference Championships with Chris Long and the Green Light crew in Studio J? Enter below: MILLERLITE.COM/GREENLIGHTSWEEPS This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Cash App's Football Dreams Giveaway: NO PURCHASE NECESSARY TO ENTER OR WIN. Open to US residents, 21 and up. Ends 11/9/23. For complete rules, visit cash/app/exclusives/footballdreams2023 Use the GameTime app for all your ticketing needs. Create an account and use code GREENLIGHT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Download the GameTime app today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed. Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And I don't know if you hear that noise. Do you hear that noise? No. It's not an Emmy. It's the Texan Super Bowl window opening. The window is a jar, dude. I mean, they took the lead on the Bengals for the playoffs. And I have the Bengals in my top five last week.

You know, like this is a team that I'm afraid of. I'm not saying it's going to be this year, Kyle. But all I'm saying is with what you thought they were going to be coming in the season, Nico Collins is your guy that's bawling out. You get Tank Dell. You've got Robert Woods, veteran presence. you have a good back, you're investing in the offensive line. But for much of the season, they've had a lot of those guys down.

And I just, like, here's the thing. The run game was what was missing. And yesterday, Devin Singletary, was like a revelation for them. And I think that run game, if they can keep that going, makes them a complete team. We talked about the rushers, quarterbacks otherworldly. If they can run the ball, they're going to be good. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. NFL Week 10 reactions and especially,

guest's appearance by T.J. Watt. We talk about the big performances yesterday. C.J. Stroud against the Bengals. He outplayed another Ohio State quarterback, Joe Burrow. We also talk about the Browns getting a game back against the Ravens in the AFC North Battle. The Lions and the Chargers have an absolute shootout. We talk about Dan Campbell's big brass balls that he threw down on the field. Said, I want this fourth down. The Raiders in the Jets Sunday night football. Just a wild game you couldn't take your eyes off of. We get into the rest of the Sunday slate from week 10. And as we mentioned, we had a great conversation with TJ Watt.

He's going to talk about pass rushing the quarterback, where he finds the most success and watching his brother on CBS. Y'all please enjoy. We'll catch you on Wednesday with Stamford Steve. Much love. Welcome to the Green Light Live show. Week 10 reactions. Fellas, how are we?

Week 10. I got some reactions. I got a lot to react to. What do you guys? Where do we start? There is a lot to react to. First and foremost, we've got to get started with the first things first, America's team. Okay, let me be your lead off batter this week.

Okay. Okay, because I'm definitely, I got to take this one. America's teams, number one America's teams, the troops. Okay, hope you guys had a great weekend. Hope you guys and gals had a great weekend. Veterans Day over the weekend. Seriously, we love our vets. Got a chance to get to know a lot of them through our Conquering Killie deal.

If you haven't checked that out, look into it. if you're a vet that ever wants to climb Kilimanjaro, we will take you. Hop on the website and check us out. But more than anything, I'm just telling my little two cents on it from my personal experience, running a foundation. You have a lot of people come and go that help your foundation. But the vets for me are the people that step up to the plate every time. We'll have people over to East Africa or some of our domestic water projects.

And you think, oh, they're just doing one good thing and it's a one-off. there's no one-offs with veterans. Like they really do do everything they can for causes bigger themselves. So I just want to thank them in general, but also like in the work that I do, and not all of it is veteran-related work. The folks that have served our country that come home and are looking for more to do,

whenever we're lucky enough to have a guy or a gal that wore the uniform, help us out. They go the extra mile, and they're just awesome. I appreciate you. You guys do all this stuff. That's a great way to start. And it's real.

I mean, it's a real thing. Everybody that I've met through your foundation at the Water Boys annual golf tournament. I mean, it's pretty much put on there by veterans. I mean, the people that are emceeing.

We fell into that. The people that are like, hey, come with us. We've been. Have a great time. Conquering Killy. You know,

shout out to the veterans, particularly the Water Boys veterans. I just think about we got young kids now and like having to go deploy somewhere and say, see you later to your family for nine months, for a year.

You know, I love to see those videos where they bring, you know, somebody from the Army back to run into a basketball game and their kids shooting free throws shots. Takes off the umpire mask. But like behind all that is,

I always think about, well, like, you know, we're focused on this, but there are nine months or a year, a year and a half where that kid didn't get to see

their parent because their parents doing what I'm not willing to do. And so I just appreciate veterans and I hope you guys had a great weekend. Number one, America's team's veterans,

Quite literally, if they weren't going to make this list. Nobody was. Number two, Chris Stapleton fans, new album, Hire, is out. I have been too busy to actually listen to the album, which is a shame. But tonight I'm going to listen to the album. Live listen? There's some solid blues trade. It's a little slower, but there's some solid little guitars.

I like when he's bluesy. Maybe a pre-game Monday Night Football Live list. Well, I'm going to be in an SUV on my way up to damn Philadelphia. I forget that you work. I forget that you work another game. Yeah, it just doesn't stop. But me and the driver, I hope the driver's a Stapledon fan. So number two, Stapleton fans.

Number three, the DeVito family. Okay? A unit. They are a unit. They are the, I mean, the quintessential Italian-American family and the name to boot and the whole thing. But like, people freaking out. We talked about this yesterday, me and Dr. Fax.

People freak out about anything on the internet. And then when you see his mom, he looks like the mom that is probably excited to have her son. I thought you're going to say she looked like Carmela. Yeah, I was like, here it comes. No, no, Carmella's not doing, not making AJ's bed. But she probably was. But like, I feel like that's the Italian mom thing and everyone freaking out about it

and saying that in the future, he's going to be a failure because he said he has his mom make his bed. That's wild. It's absolutely crazy. Here's what I've figured out. You know, number one, sports fans are just, a lot of times just mad at athletes for making a lot of money. So if Tommy DeVito was a first round pick

And he bought a Lamborghini People are gonna be like He's gonna be broken five years And if he decides to stay at home Because his game check is not gonna And in the most expensive place to leave What do you wanna do? You want him to get an apartment in Brooklyn?

But he's nine miles away from MetLife His house that he grew up here. This is a fight. You guys are always like save your money, You idiot pro athletes That's what this guy's doing We're mad at him too Yeah

So make up your fucking minds Tommy DeVito He's all right with me His family's all right with me Um, you know, like, and have you had an Italian mom's chicken cutlet? Yeah, dude. My mom, my mom, at Nizio is, uh, adenizio is our, is, is my mom's main name. Like, guys, you guys, they just don't understand.

Maybe they've never tried chicken cutlet. They don't get it. They also don't get that the mom said, uh, this is what you, yesterday you were like, the mom even said that, that she wants to have them stay at the house. But now, having said that, I don't know what mom is going to be like, I need him to get the fuck out of here when S. I calls. But,

you know, like the dad last, last, yesterday, that's your fourth and three play in the, in the, it felt like anti-

Italian discrimination. It did. The whole deal down there in Dallas. It did. It felt a little racist. Setting him up to fail like that. This was, we went through like the toughest,

uh, backup quarterback jobs over the last five years and up there with, uh, Hinton, the guy, I think that was his name. Kendall Hinton. Denver.

For the Broncos. when during the Pandy, they were like, hey, the whole team is sick. So you're going to have to play quarterback and this wide receiver against the Saints. And this is up there. I mean, this is up there with Joe Webb having to start a playoff game,

just having to go down to Dallas against the team that loves to curb stomp people. Now, this was the funniest thing about this game. They're bullies. Was at the end of the game, they were really trying to score the Giants were at the end, and they did. And I was wondering, very Italian,

here I am, but I thought maybe his dad, put like, you know, a couple sectionals on the team total over. I didn't even think about that. And I'm like watching DeVito and I'm imagining that his dad's got 20 grand. That would be awesome. On the team total and he's doing it for his dad. What?

My son's first start? Are you kidding? It would have been one of his buddies that was there. Probably his buddies too. Who was like under the... If you're Tommy DeVito, I know you can't like gamble and that sort of thing and that's a big no-no. But you know all your Italian friends are gambling. Can't help it.

You know they're gambling. So anyway, the DeVito's. They're in America's team. Team total was 12. They went over. The public is an America's team. The Sharps, I'm tired of hearing about you guys. Here's what gambling's all about.

If you know what you're talking about, just go with your fucking guy. I don't know what Sharp says. The Sharp said the people that move the lines, they come in late, they bet the games, and people are like, oh, these mysterious, shadowy figures. They're like the whales and crypto? Yeah, your brother's a Sharp.

Who is? You? Me? No, I'm not a sharp. Yesterday I was a fucking sharp. Okay, I get it. With these guys is my witness. You're the green light sharp.

With these guys is my witness. No, well, Makin would say he is right now because he's winning the pick. It stands for Sharp better. Like, you're on your way to becoming the Sharp. It's just about winning. It's about not ignoring the juice and stopping with the big parlias and teasers.

But when I pick against the spread, you know, yesterday I think I was seven and three, you can go back and look at it. But the Sharps liked Baltimore. The Sharp liked, the Sharps like Jacksonville. The Sharps liked the Chargers. I liked the Chargers. I liked San Francisco.

Yeah. And I loved Baltimore, obviously. I lost 300. You did like Baltimore. But Macon was scared to death to make that bet because he bet you money line. See, what Macon will do is he'll be like, he'll say something that nobody's going to remember unless it happens. He'll be like, yeah, Cleveland's going to win that game.

And then you're like, all right, bet me. And he takes the bet, and he's like, wait, I want the points. You know? He got me, dude. He got you. He got you. He walked you into his trap. Another America's team, Phoebus High School here in Virginia.

They won 104 to nothing against James Town in a playoff game. That's a playoff game. James Town. Still playing football like at 1604, obviously. They don't know what they're doing. No, they really don't. They don't know what happened in James Town. They also don't know what happened at Phoebus.

All right? And then lastly, sideline coaches. Steve Wilkes went down to the sideline. Everything changed. Somebody else went down to the sideline yesterday. Matt Canada. Everything changed. So get out of the booth, get down on the sideline.

Shout out to Macon and his admin last week. Assistance coaches, which is basically a chairlift for coaches to get them down from the box. It was good. It was good, but I couldn't understand what was going on. I wish I had a visual representation of it at the same time, like a PowerPoint. Yeah, it's just to the, yeah. So anyways, assistant coaches using the chairlift to get down to the sideline. That's where they call games the best.

I just think about Tony Supranos' mom coming down the stairs. Is she out a chairlift? Yeah. I might get a chairlift because I got an English bulldog and he likes to go upstairs and see the kids. And that's a treacherous journey for my man. Like, I've always wanted to put my bulldog in a motorcycle side car. If I can get him a chair assist. Listen, you want to know how to go viral on TikTok?

A dog on a fucking chairlift. I'm on it. I'm on it. There's going to be a bunch of contractors at the house when I get home. People drilling in the wall and he's like, what the fuck is going on? Tony needs a fucking chairlift, dude. Okay, so anyways. It's not a nurse at home.

It's a retirement community. It's a retirement community. You're up. Okay, so I'm up. Here we go. I've got to pull out my American team's list. Pull it out. Number one, the Houston Texans.

This is obvious. And it's obvious, guys. The Houston Texans have a guy who is playing a level of football that I haven't seen from a rookie ever. I mean, I can honestly say, in my years of being a football fan, there hasn't been a guy that garnered the attention, the respect, and earned it as early as C.J. Stroud has in a situation that we all thought was going to be a super poor one. Guys like Noah Brown going out there having, I think it was 170 yards this past game. Tank Dell, week in, week out, stepping up.

There's new people to cheer for because this Houston Texans team nailed the quarterback pick. They nailed the quarterback pick. And there's a bunch of teams in the NFL trying to nail that pick. they haven't yet. The Chicago Bears are one of them or they're like, do we have the right guy who is the guy to get? And there's a number of other teams like that. But T.J. Stroud, the Houston Texans,

they're giving people all over the country something to root for if they aren't already latched onto a team. So number one, America's teams, going up and beating the Cincinnati Bengals, the Houston Texans. Into the Lions Day. I cannot wait to talk about that game. The Tigers Den.

I can't wait talk about that game. Bengal Tigers' death. Oh, yeah, I'll wait until we talk about it. Number two, the Michigan Wolverines. cheaters and not just because not just because of the fact that they're cheaters and it's known

but the fact that after that they go and they beat Penn State and their coach their interim coach got I don't even know the guy's name he was bawling crying at the end of the game I thought Jim Harbaugh died so I had to put them on the America's team's list because I was convinced that Jim Harbaugh was dead

when you listen to that coach after the game yes yeah like that's dead coach talk. I was like, that's dead coach speech. I wrote immediately like America's team, Michigan, dead coach. I was saying this on Eisen's show earlier.

That coach punched his ticket to whatever pro team that Harbaugh is going to coach with next year. That's brutal. He'll be holding a bag during offensive line drills next year. Because he cried after the game. He'll be the assistant O line coach. Speaking of that, I did get to go to Penn State this weekend. Right, Nate?

That's how it goes. I don't know. I can't make Penn State and America's team, but I got to go up there. T-Town. one weekend, happy Valley the next. Not very happy Saturday. It's like Sad Valley.

I learned that word. Yeah, you faded me? I had the under and I threw a little bit on the Wolverines too, but I was down on the field. I got a media pass. It was cool. It said Green Light. I was like, this is some bullshit right here that I get to walk around on this field

wherever I want to go because I have a podcast. But it was cool and I ran into like Spice. I told you I saw Spice Adams. I saw Justin King. Any Penn State fans will remember him. I got to hang out with Dad. for a long time. And if you're a Penn State fan,

you know you got a great coach in Anthony Point Dexter. I was in his house until about midnight hanging out, telling stories. He was one of the best football players I ever saw play. If he didn't hurt his knee,

he'd have been like Ed Reed, came back for his senior year, got hurt against Ency State, but now he's a big time college football coach. Just like an elite motivator, if you're a kid out there and you play defense

and you're thinking about Penn State, that motherfucker will not steer you wrong. So Penn State, that was a fun trip. I just wanted to shout out. the Hagan's family for hosting me. And all the Happy Valley people, they were very cool. It was like, there's a lot of Eagles fans there too.

The hype is real. It's real. It's real. And it's one of those places. It's called State College, right? And then you've got College Station in Texas A&M. And then you've got College Park. University City in St. Louis.

See, this is a fun game we're playing. Yeah. Well, here's what's fun about it. I did it in traffic by myself. Tuscaloosa and Happy Valley. Tuscaloosa and Happy Valley both feel like we used to play Sim City. if you used all your coins on like a stadium and then you're just like

the rest of it is, you fuck off, they hate you now. No, they don't. No, I mean like You just shit on Tuscalo. That's not shitting, no. They would use their coins on the stadium. They would agree with me. Like, it's not about, hey, we've got this strip mall here.

Here's the things you use your points on if you're in the SEC church, number one. We've got to build a big church. Stadium number two. Stadium's got to be a little bigger. Bars. Coach's got to pay to only less than the megachurch Greek residences.

right? Greek residents? Yeah, frat houses. Oh, okay. I think we're talking Euros. Yeah, I'm not talking like

immigrant housing. Yeah, okay. That's immigrant housing. That's my power rankings for Tuscaloosa needs. Okay, so what did I just do?

I just did Michigan? Yeah. Yeah. How did we get to Tuscaloosa? Because of Penn State. Okay. Vikings number three. You know what?

I feel like I got to put this on. I'm not going to go very long on this one. The pastor or not. Awesome stuff. Electric. Way to go. Josh Dobbs. Number four, San Francisco 49ers. They were a team that was the class of the NFL a few weeks ago.

The House of Cards, we talked about it. They fell apart. Trent Williams out, Debo Samuel out, but now they're back, and we see Trent Williams featured outside, external runs, getting out there in front, reverses, things of that nature. The offense looked to be what it has been historically, which I love. San Francisco, number four, and then number five, the Lions. You made some money on the Lions, and I know we've got a phone phone call. coming up here soon. So I'm going to wrap my America's teams.

Yeah, go ahead. Keep going, though. Detroit Lions, though. The run game travels, David Montgomery back. A lot out of Gibbs. Dan Campbell, big shout out to Dan Campbell. Number five, the Lions. I got one to throw in.

I can't call it America's team because it is going to be Winnipeg Blue Bombers who have made it to the Grey Cup. Oh, these guys jersey on. Made it to the Grey Cup, and they are looking for their 13th Grey Cup win in franchise history. So shout out to them.

How many teams are playing? Before this special guest, I just want to point out. There's any Winnipeg Blue Bombers fans out there, and I was to ask you, what's your favorite Nate Collins play? You might say any number of the plays where he was out there running like a mad dog in a meat house on an edible because he took an edible the day before a game. They're actually playing in that stadium for the Grey Cup championship,

Hamilton, Tigers, we're playing against. You were out there like Mr. Crabs in that meme. They were like, you were like, what's the call? Like, where am I? This guy's can cuss. No, he's on drugs. So, congrats to the Blue Bombers. Congrats to the Blue Bombers.

And shout out to Jake Thomas. One of my Canadian teammates who is still on the team, wrecking shop, do your thing. Damn, I'm still doing it. Baller. Yeah, man. Detackle, too. Big guy. Okay.

He's like my Cody White Hair. Because of White Hair still plays. Who still plays the U other than AD? There's only a few. I mean, like I see Lane, B.G. I saw BG on the side. All our friends are in retirement community. I snuck up on BG over there in the corner by the Michigan side.

And we talked for like 35 minutes. I didn't know he was going to be there. He didn't know I was going to be there. That was pretty fucking cool. Like two guys that went and won a Super Bowl together. I hate it. Just running into each other. He fucking.

Just smiling at you. But just right. Yeah. Don't fucking look at me, B. Don't look at me. Like, it's my four-year-old's new thing. Don't look at me.

What's wrong? It's the same thing with BG. Don't look at me. But yeah, no, we've got a special. guests coming up here any minute. But a little hint on who it might be. I want to talk

about the Steelers before we getting to everybody. Perfect. I think the run game is a revelation for them. And I think Broderick Jones, the big guy from Georgia, who they've had stashed away, since he's been in the ball game for them, I think they've run for 371 rushing

yards, 4-9 an attempt versus 3-8.9-9 yards before contact previously, 1.7. over the previous stretch, or over the latest stretch with Broderick Jones in the lineup. And, you know, like Kenny Pickett after that Thursday night game,

Tomlin was like, you know, fielding questions about his rating and all this stuff. And he's like, what's his rating in the fourth quarter? You know, sticking up for his quarterback. Because he has an idea that Kenny's clutch. But in a game like yesterday, it sure is nice in that fourth quarter where there's Warren or Harris

to get those runs going and get into plus territory to kick a field goal or flip the field. That's what they did the whole fourth quarter. They ran the ball. And so I think this fits their identity as a team that plays in close ball games. They've been outgained in every game. They've won a bunch of one-score games.

This Mike Tomlin knows how to coach these things. And the defense finishes the job off, and they did it yesterday. The Steelers, you might not believe they're a good team, but they have six wins. And they have a shot to win that AFC North. So excited to any minute welcome. on a guest from that team. But when it comes to the AFC North, we're going to talk about the Browns. We're going to talk about the Ravens.

It's like, I don't know who wants to win this thing. The Bengals, they were hot as fish grease, came down to Earth yesterday. This thing's wide open. And I think if you pick the order of this division preseason correctly, you're a fucking genius, because it is all over the place. And as of today, the Bengals don't get in the playoffs. and not talking about the AFC North, the bill's the same thing.

If the playoffs started today, the Bengals would not be in, which is just wild. And the Browns for all the problems they've had are now sitting there. For the Steelers, you talked about the running back position and being able to rely on that

as opposed to just being like, hey, Kenny clutch, make it happen. They had no idea how to use those two. They didn't know which buttons to press early in the season. With Harris, they were using them the wrong way, and a lot of Steelers' fans' minds, and now you're able to lean on Warren more.

Who's great. And it frees up Harris to be able to do some of the things that works well with Naji in his game. Yeah. And Kenny's more comfortable as a result of it. And we're going to see more development of down the field passing, I think,

with this running game garnering the respect that it should. And they were able to get some movement yesterday because I think Green Bay had some guys down in the secondary and that sort of thing. So it's not the biggest test they'll see. They're going to get the Browns coming up this week. And, you know, Kenny Pickett, this is going to be a big spot for him. If you want to be talked about as an actual contender, this is a game that you've got to go win,

and I think they have a shot to do that. They go at the Browns, at the Bengals. Excited about the Steelers' opportunity this week. And we'd love to introduce our guest here on the Greenlight Live Week 10 Reaction show, T.J. Watt. Yes, dude. Wow, T. Here we go. What's up?

What's up? Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you, dude. How you doing? I'm on a 1984 computer on a wood. our PR guy has going on. That's amazing. He's doing great.

Look great. Fucking throwback guy like TJ Watt. He's got a throwback computer. That's the way it's supposed to be. All-Star. TJ, we love watching you play, dude. I don't think I've ever talked to you, man. Big fan of your game.

I don't think anybody works their hands better than T.J. Watt in the game. I don't think there's anybody I want with a rush with the game on the line more than T.J. Watt. And my first question to you, T.J. would be with as many close games as you play in. Like, let's take three seconds to go in that game yesterday. or the Tennessee game where it comes down to the goal line. I know as a rusher, that's your dream.

Maybe you don't want to be stressed out late in the fourth all these games, but as a rusher, take me through what's going on in your head with three seconds to go in that game yesterday or with the game on the line against Tennessee. Yeah, those are the moments that everything in the offseason is for. I mean, those are the moments when you're sitting there and you're out of breath completely and you're looking at the old tackle when you see he's out of breath and you just know that you have just a little bit more in a tank

in him because of all the work that you put him throughout all the offseason training. Every single rep of practice, every late night of watching film is all for that moment. And that's why it sucks when you can't come away with that big play. But I'm glad that our guys in the back end and, excuse me, the guys in the middle have been able to come up with huge plays. But, yeah, two-minute drills in the NFL when you know the snap count, you know that they're passing, especially late in the game when you know you're probably not going to get a chip are very hard to come by.

and you have to make the most of them. And that's why it's just time to pin you back and throw your best stuff. And that was going to be, my other question was, you know, as a rusher, are you a field guy? Or do you come into a game with a game plan? Or do you have that game plan and then you're able to move in and out of it? Because I always notice you might watch a guy on tape

and say, oh, his anchor is a problem for him. But then you're like, because it was Julius Peppers. You know, like, of course. Exactly. Exactly. And as the game goes on, do you find yourself making adjustments and then at the end of the game do you save a home run? Yeah, and that's why the iPads are so crucial. I mean, it was really nice in the preseason because in the preseason,

they actually tried out where you could watch actual video clip for the first time. So that was pretty cool where you could see where the hands were going, so you can make true in-game adjustments. But yeah, you always go into a game with a game plan, but like you said, you kind of have to find, at least I've found, you have to find rushers that are very similar to you, because you can't watch, like I can't watch my brother play against the tackle. I think that tackle's going to play me exactly how he played him.

So that's part of it. And then in the game, they're always scheming different things, whether they try to hold the outside hand because they know you're a chop guy, or they try to flash it for a second, or if they're going to just try to throw right your chest. So you really have to get back to the sidelines, look at the iPads and see if he's really opening the gate up, when we can run a game or if you just want to work hands.

But yeah, it's like chess. It really is. but that iPad is crucial. TJ, Kyle here, and you say it's like chess, and to me it looks like you're playing chess and most people are playing checkers, but make no mistake about it in the offensive line room throughout the week.

We're trying to scheme how to get you blocked with extra guys, chips inside, outside. Are there ever times where you feel like a chip may help your rush? I hope more, I wish it would help me more than it actually does, but I mean, the only ones that really can help is if like a tight end they're starting to like kind of mess with their alignments, right?

So a lot of times you'll see guys now they'll start outside the hatch with these tight ends and they'll motion them in. Because once they're off the line, they can kind of motion and dictate where they want to go whereas if they line up on line of scrimmage, they can't motion and go. So I can kind of come outside,

come inside a little bit, try to shoot the gap or we can running a quick T.E. game or quick exit game. But the hard ones are when those guys are outside at like that three and a half, that weird space where if I get outside, I'm way too far away. But if I get inside, I'm kind of pinning myself where he can just, that's Rucie L's like de-cleaders. But the only good part about that is sometimes if I'm able to stand up,

that tackle doesn't really understand and he oversets it. And then I get chipped into like pretty much an exit game, which has happened a couple times in my career. But chips are tough, man. They really are. And I think that's why you're seeing more of them as my career continues, which we just have to figure out a better way to attack them. Yeah, but you're right.

Like that tight end reduced late where you get your hand in the ground and you're like, oh, sure, I got to get up and walk outside of him. You know, the back coming up, you can spin against that, and I've seen you do that and that sort of thing. But they throw a lot at you. Betting, man, he's been fun to watch. And, you know, I can tell you like playing with him. Yesterday I saw you guys celebrating together.

What's it like seeing these young guys making plays? It's huge. I mean, when you can get the interior, I mean, as Edrusher, you know, when you can get that interior push, it makes life so much easier for us. And to be able to really burn the corner knowing that the quarterback's not going to be able to step up makes life a lot easier for us. And having a guy that's 300, 310 plus pounds and be able to move like he does, he's one of the only guys that I know that can actually be like to capture the shoulder, like a drill tape, like hit the two the two shuffles and then over, like to swim over. Like, I never see that work until he came here. And it's like his bread and butter. But he's been playing some really good football for us. And, I mean, it's not just in the past game.

I mean, he's playing the run really well. And I don't want to talk him up too much, get his head too big. But he is playing some really good football. It's just, it is. It's that badger. I mean, that three, four defense, that's why you see the correlation with Jim Leonard's defense. It's very similar to what we do here.

It's pretty much just translating the language once you get here. But all the movements, he's very familiar with, as you can tell. Are you encouraged by the depth of backer just, you know, you feel like guys can step up because Kwan's a big loss. You know, I know that hurts, but you guys got to keep it moving. How do you feel about the depth of backer and what do you have to do to get those guys ready to go? Yeah, I mean, Yelan Roberts is an incredible player. I think he's done it for a long time.

I mean, just a guy that's a steady voice. He's a guy that feels like he's a starter from day one. So even when he came in yesterday, it's not like you had to minimize the play sheet for him. He's been in the league for a long time. He knows exactly what he needs to do out there. He's a thumper. Takes a lot of pride in his work. Yeah, he's a thumper man.

And it's like, dude, just keep your head out of things and we'll be all right. Yeah, he's like, friendly fire. He could, he could. Yes. You got to watch him. Yes. I mean, you should see some of the practice. It's like, man, it's a Wednesday here in season or even like a Thursday.

And it's like, we don't have any pads on. Let's just calm down. But it's setting the tone. It really is. And it's all that old school football. It's setting the tone. I mean, AFC North, the game like this week, too, it's, you need a guy like that. And Kwan was a guy that was very energetic, very vocal.

And E. Rob is more of a quiet guy, but he's able to deliver messages with how he plays the game. Yeah, Mark Robb playing alongside him is a thumper as well. So I think the two of them in there is going to be a little bash brother, tandem. You got to ask Alandon Roberts about when he gave me a concussion in practice. and walk through. I mean, it was a walk through. Yeah, dude, walk through.

It was like one of those tackling drills where we were just fitting up and he caught me right on the button and I went over to Matt Patricia. I was like, I don't think I'm good, bro. Atlanta Roberts is a hard hitter as there is in the game, dude. You talked about the AFC North,

the physicality of that division. It's always been physical. Do you think this is the most physical and best that it's been in your time as a Steeler? I mean, just off the records, I think so. I mean, it's just so competitive. And we have the quarterbacks, I mean, just go down the list of quarterbacks that we have to face each and every week.

The teams that are running the ball to high level. And then obviously it seems like that all the defenses are playing extremely well, too. So they're always smash mouth, blood, blood, that type of games. Coach T always talks, so we know everything about them. They know everything about us. So it's just all about executing, taking care of the football and creating that splash. And this week will be no different. I think there's a great slate of games at the Thursday,

that game is a huge divisional game and then ours on Sunday will be no different. With Broderick Jones, like seems like a revelation this guy, your run game has kind of taken off. I know it's probably not all just him, but how fun is it to see him out there, but also that Steelers offense look like a physical, you know, throwback kind of Steelers. Yeah, he's been a boost. And I mean, something about those Georgia guys that just come in with crazy confidence, crazy confidence. I mean, it must be just that SEC type confidence. They feel like they've seen it all and it's contagious. When you have a guy that comes in and believes in himself,

goes to work every day, is just trying to develop and has that smash mouth mentality. He's very gritty at how he finish his plays. I see, as you see yesterday with some of the polls and things like that. It's contagious and it's been able to rub off on the offense to be able to have 200 rush yards, whatever they had yesterday. We just want to continue to build off. of that. And it's fun for me to go up against Broderkin practice because it's a young guy that's always trying to continue to ask me things. And it's fun for me to go up against the guy that's always trying something new. He's not just trying to beat me holding his hands every player, doing something different. He's actually trying things so we can work together. And I think it's

making both of us better. T.J., I get the opportunity on some weekends to work with your brother, JJ, who's a great guy, hated him when I was in the league. And now I love him working with him. He is honestly a pleasure to work with. And I'm, you know, getting to work with my brother. I get to see JJ be the biggest fan of you every week. Are we going to see some of that while you're still playing? Are you going to get involved with the media? Do you have a plan to do that side of things? I know you're on your way to Canton in your career right now,

but, I mean, look, you're going to be bored after football, and JJ's having fun with it. He's a natural, man. He really is, and he's good at everything he does. I've always said he's just public speaking in front of a camera. He's really well. He plays well off of it. people. Just very smart guy. Always love that about him, but that's not for me. It really is.

And I'm not a, I mean, I don't love being doing a whole bunch of menabuse and things. I mean, our PR guys laughing here because I'm always like, just like, let me focus one week. Just leave me alone for one week. But I think when I'm done, I've always said, I love for Derek, my middle brother to be like a head football coach and me, I just be like a D-line coach for like baseball or something. I think that would be like, that'd be like my lane, you know, because I could like show up to practice. If I'm there, it's cool. If I'm not there, it's whatever.

Yeah. But I don't want to be the head guy. How cool is it though? Because I remember when I retired, getting to see Kyle's games and, you know, give him a hug after the game. You know, like we played against each other a couple times. Big boy got in a couple fights in those games. So he wasn't in the mood for a hug after the game.

But, you know, like just for you and JJ to be able to see each other in the tunnel. And for you to know that he watched every snap, like that's got to be cool. cool. Yeah, I mean, it's special. Like, just when you think back about how many Houston games I went to and all the tailgates and watching football that he played down there and it's like every snap, like you guys know how it is. Like, I'm not watching the game. I'm watching him. Like, I can't watch anything else. Like, I don't know how to explain it. So I'm like for him to intern have that for me was like very surreal for him to come to Pittsburgh to see all the nine New Jersey's to live out the experience just that I had in Houston all those years. It's kind of wild.

And then, I mean, you guys know, too. It's like, you're so in tune with how you think and you think the same way. So after a game, it's so refreshing to have a guy that, like, I'm going to be like, I'll be like, dude, on that one rush. He's like, oh, I know. I don't want to say. I don't want to say it. Now that you say it, like, we'll talk about it.

And it's like, it is cool. We sat up for, I mean, it was a night game on Thursday when he was out here. We stayed up until two or three in the morning, just talking about football. And it's just like, that's something I'll remember forever. and it's just a special bond and it's only someone that you grew up with that has walked in the same path you have that will understand and that's why it's so special and most most sacks in a hundred career games it's reggie white tj wott j j wott unreal what does that mean to you good parenting it's i yeah i don't know man i i none of it none of it registers honestly none i don't have like i can't

I can't even fathom all the stuff that's been accomplished. And I'm sure one day we'll sit down and watch a whole bunch of highlights and talk about everything. But I just like, I don't know. I can't get through my mind what's happening. I just know that I'm just like addicted to the process of continually trying to get better. And I'm just so hungry that, I mean, just a massive game this week. Yeah. And there's no time to sit back and pat myself on the back and get a big head.

And I just like, I just know how special that this moment is. I know how short of a period that I had to play this game, and I'm trying to maximize the most of it. And I just want to keep going. Legend. One more question for you. It being such a physical game in the AFC North and for you. I mean, I see you flying around.

You're every down guy. I mean, so I know it hurts on Monday, and especially when you know you've got another physical game coming up. What's your process is you've gotten older in the league to get your body right? I don't think people realize how full-time a job that is. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's staying active. I used to have to games on Mondays. I'd be too sore to do anything, and then Tuesday would be even worse.

And then Wednesday, I would be kind of crawling into the week. And now it's kind of like today I got in. I made sure I got in the tubs, and I lifted, and I'm moving, and I'm just keeping my body active and keeping my blood circulating. It's been helping me a lot more, and obviously a lot more knee, ankle, hip, mobility type stuff. all the boring stuff that nobody wants to see, but it's the stuff that's keeping me healthy and able to, on Wednesdays,

I'm actually productive instead of kind of crawling into the week and being super sore, and I can work on my hands and things like that. So when Friday comes around, I'm actually running on full cylinders, and I don't get to the game, and I'm hitting full-speed reps for the first time. I think that's something I've gotten a lot better at as my career has progressed. Well, hopefully we see another 10, 12 years of that

because we love watching you play, and good luck this one. week and beyond, bro. You are a terror out there, dude. We love to watch it. Keep getting after it, man. Keep going. Thanks are coming on. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Take care.

Of course. And a big thank you to Michael from the Steelers for hooking that up. I mean, that was cool getting to talk to TJ. Guys are a total badass. I said this last week. I know he doesn't want to do like media shit. That was funny. But when but it's so true. You can tell out of the

two like he's. But JJ was that way when he played. No, JJ. JJ was a little different. I'm telling you, JJ had no interest. I don't think TJ is going to be

doing the things that Jay, now what I was going to say was that Del Taco commercial is good. It's terrific. It's not Del Taco. Whatever it is. I'm buying the wrong tacos.

The commercial is so good I can't focus on. Del salsa. Whatever it is. The fucking guy, TJ, I said this last week, I don't know if I said it to you. Closer to anybody in the game today reminds me at Howie Long.

You did. All ball. All ball. No smile. When he does, it's like a million-dollar smile. Good-looking guy. Doesn't have a rear-view mirror and just looks forward. Yeah.

He wants to just mow things down in his path. He reminds me of what I, what I, you know, looking back at our dad playing. T.J. kind of reminds me of that. So just a terrific player. We won't talk about the Steelers. Again, this show, that's our breakdown for that game. But the AFC North, as we're going to talk about a little bit, is wide open. I will say this.

Jordan Love had some good-looking throws down the field. He did. He did. He really did. He did. And I've said that we were talking about this off air. Want to see the deep. Why do we always fucking say good things off air?

No. You know, the Packers are a team that you can play Madden with, trade the quarterback immediately in Madden if you're not a Jordan Love guy, and work around the core of young receivers and skill players and the defensive rushers, things of that nature. You got good corner. You've got a good edge rusher. But Jordan Love was the question mark.

He looked pretty good throwing the football down the few times. Brian G. said, and of course his name is Brian Guntz, the guy's name I can't say. I won't say. Brian G. He's out there. He's like, listen, this is, it's not cutting time for Jordan Love. The second half of this season, this guy's got to prove to us that he's the guy.

And my argument was, open it up. Let's find out. Because you can't find out keeping the dog on the porch, man. You got to let the dog run. Have faith. Throw it to a Christian. He was, well, in Christian, that's a guy who Packers fans are kind of down on right now. Some of them are blaming some of the turnovers for him.

the way he competes for the ball and Christian's saying, hey, what about Devante Adams when he started out in Green Bay? And that's just in saying that, you're comparing yourself to Devante Adams. Strange. I think the,

well, I don't know if it's strange, but it's like Christian didn't say that. Christian didn't say that. But I think fans can look at the Devante Adams situation and say, hey, this guy took a while. I think the kid's super talented, obviously. But I also like Romeo Dobbs. He's my favorite guy there.

He has been. And Wixie is Wahoo. Yeah, he has been your favorite, though. But some of the balls that Big Rome, some of the balls that Jordan threw yesterday were very good, and we said we wanted to see him throw the deep ball. People say he's not a good deep ball thrower, but we've got to see him try to throw the deep ball.

And yesterday with the big targets they have, taken advantage of that and trying to take some shots, I think that's better. That's a start. This is his tryout. The tryout has begun. Guys, the first game I just want to break down. We go out of order today a little bit

because Sunday night football was electric. Let me notice I can get my note cards in order. This was the Canaanites were out there chucking rocks. It was a rock fight to end all rock fights, man. The other end was a rock fight. I didn't even flinch at 36. I was like, come on. Come on, Cletus.

Come on, Cletus. 36, make it 34. I'll still bet it. I don't care. Give me an Iowa total. Iowa Rutgers. I'll still bet it. Zerline was trying to fuck up your bet.

I know. Well, Zach Wilson was trying to fuck it up until at the very end when he threw that pick. Now, he did kill a parlay. It would have been gorgeous for your boy. But Zach Wilson, I just want to simplify this conversation. It's all about the quarterback. Okay, like we can say, hey, this team was not set up for him.

Hackett might not have been the guy you hired if it was Zach Wilson. You know, it's not the offense that you came in and installed for Zach Wilson. But at the end of the day, even for as much as Chris Collinsworth wants to say, hey, you know, you know, like the whole Collinsworth talking into anything. You can't talk me into this one. because I'm not going to do this every Monday. I don't think Jets fans deserve to hear this every Monday. Even the ones that early in the season when we were hard on Zach said,

you guys are too hard on Zach, I think, you know, two months later, fast forward, you're listening now. Do you want to do this every Monday morning? If you do, we can keep breaking down 16, 13 ball games, and you can tell me what about the couple sidearm throws that he made late in the game? There was one sidearm throw. I was like, oh, wait, maybe Aaron is off the Achilles. Is he out there?

Because he does look every once in a while like this guy that you can build around. I mean, down to the Hail Mary, scramble. He's the best Hail Mary. The ability to get into the tight hallway down the left side line, square up his feet, deliver a strike, and then the absolute pass break up. Yeah, I mean. Down there. And here's the thing.

If you're the Jets, maybe you try to play into more of these Hail Mary situations. Because I've never seen. I've never seen. Yeah, dude. But the bottom line is this. Jackson, Zach Wilson's not it. And it sucks for him.

I'm not sitting here. This is an indictment on him as a person. This isn't an indictment on him as a, you know, like to be a top five quarterback, to have a college career like that, to play in the NFL. If he plays 10 years in the NFL, that's amazing, dude.

You hit it out of the park. So if I was- Relatively speaking. Yeah, no, I mean, this is the best, the best, to get down so i'm not sitting here trying to tear down zach wilson it's a production business i saw the look on his face after he threw that pick i mean you thought his dog died you know you thought all his his favorite mils died of old age you you'd have thought you'd have thought kentra lust got

kent you'd have thought kendra lust was on i r okay you thought brandy love was what got hit by a train okay any more of those no but but i felt for a man in that moment and you can say this you can say he's not it but also think about the human being he's doing the best he can he's just not that guy and so at what point is the like organization doing him a disservice keeping him in like they've scored 31 points the past three weeks why do they need to see that like shouldn't because i don't i don't i don't know if they like the other options they don't like the other options and here's the deal sala and management and ownership they're on the same page they said it last week

So, I mean, my theory is that the same page is this. It's like, he's not the guy, but we have to put him out there to see if he can't increase his trade value. And that's about it. Trade value. You know, yeah, no, I mean, yikes, because it's not working out, right? He's not the guy, you said it. Yeah, no, and I said this yesterday. If not him, then what?

And how? Yeah, and at the end of the game, Kyle, when they blow that game, I said to these guys, there's going to be a mutiny on the plane. And I've been in defensive rooms where we were dominant. and our offense wasn't great, and it can really wear on you. Not only week in and week out, but if you're Mosley or you're one of these guys, if you're Quincy Williams or fucking any of these guys,

you look up and you're like, where are the last two years go of my career? You know, that's a sobering thing. When you look up and you say, did I just waste my prime? You know, and I think some of those guys were entering into that territory where I don't trust that they're going to get it,

Right. It's wild to me that there are so many extremely talented guys across the NFL that are on teams in situations like the one you just described. And John Q Public and Greenlight Pod listeners will never get to experience them in their fullest form because they just don't have that carrot dangling in front of them that some of these elite teams have. And you see guys step up for elite teams week in, week out. Here was one of the funniest moments of the game last night because it was all about the broadcast. There wasn't a lot going on. But Collinsworth was like, well, and I talked to them. They were like, these are the guys they want to build around.

They want to build around like Devonte Adams and Anthony, or is Anthony Spillane? What's his name? Robert Spillane. Robert Spillane. Robert Spillane. By the way, congratulations. His wife's pregnant. He did the post game interview with a football in his shirt the whole time.

I thought he was just going to like, he was like, you know, we're pregnant. He put a football in his shirt. And then they panned away. And two minutes later, they go back to him for a question. He's sitting there with a football in his shirt. But Collinsworth was like, Spalane, you know, and I guess the lesson is that there's guys you haven't heard of making plays everywhere.

I'm like, man, do you watch Steelers game? I know he might not be the best player in the world, but this motherfucker, if you meet him in the hole, you're gonna be feeling it for a couple weeks. And to seal the game with that pick, really special. They called him out in the broadcast. Collinsworth kind of chuckled about it. He takes the game away from the Jets,

and I just wanted to shout him out. Yeah. There's a lot going on in that NBC, you know, the football, FN, I, can we talk about that for a second? Whatever you want to talk about. The, uh, the note cards that Tony Dungey and all the guys, Rodney Harrison and Jack Collinsworth. First off, shout out to Jack Collinsworth. A lot of people have things to say about sons of athletes and broadcasters in media. And I like Jack Collinsworth.

I think he does a really good job. Got a great head of hair. But they wear that, they had those fucking note cards. Hey, man, Washburn. They had those note cards that said FN-I-A. And it was like one of those, it was like I was watching an international soccer exhibit. or something. The acronym didn't make any sense to me. Football Night in America. No, it's Sunday Night Football, dude. Like SNF, just stick to that. You've got the rights to the

game. Stick to that. Also, when they go to the studio, first off, McCordy, great. Jason Garrett, awesome, riveting stuff every week. Also, Jason McCarty great across the pond with Rich Arson. Him and Rich. And Dan last week with them was good too. But really, I'm just, my anti-Belvel Conway, I'm going to get it out of the way early, Miller Light Moment. The NBC in Studio, you know, they had the vagus skyline behind them. And it was just so much, it was too much to look at. Between the sphere and the sphinx

and the Great Wall of China. And that Italian restaurant that the mob guys were like, you gotta fucking come out of commercial. You hear? That's really, yeah, that was my takeaway from that. Well, now we're entering cornucopia season where every fucking set's gonna have

a bowl of squashes and fucking gourds. It's the dumbest shit in the world. It's the ugliest thing in the world. I know it's Thanksgiving. Let's leave the cornucopia. It's a microaggression. It's a microaggression. It's like having a Christmas tree up right now.

They say that people who have Christmas trees up early are usually happier. That makes sense. Suck it, Trebek. All right. So let's get into my favorite game of Sunday. Kyle, I was sitting here last night and I'm supposed to, supposed to break down all the games. I was behind all

night and into the morning because of this fucking game, because I could not stop watching the Houston Texan Oh, it's like, it was like a football porno. It was football pornography. It was like the first time the N1 mixtape came out. We were in like junior

high and we were like, look at these motherfuckers dribble. I'm like, look at this. Quarterback throw everywhere. Yes. Vince McMahon. It was a great time. Also, we said this last night. Zach Wilson might be like an and one quarterback where he can do all the funky shit well.

You want me to submarine. Yeah, why isn't the professor in the NBA? You know the white guy? He's the white. Yeah, he's the professor. This is exactly. Skip to my Lou. Yeah.

Skip to my Lou. Not the little white guy, though. Yeah, but more so the professor. So anyways, here's my take. Escalade! The big guy, right? I know. Yes.

Mark Jackson's brother, if you didn't know. I didn't know that. Wrestler. No, no, Mark Jackson, the basketball player. Escalade, rest in peace, is his brother. I had no. You didn't know. I thought Mark Jackson was the giant black guy wrestler who wears the U.S.

No. Mark Henry. Mark Henry. Mark Henry. Come on. Big guy. Yes. Big guy.

Oh, my God. Have you heard Mark Henry call a. Pacers game. Hand down, man, down. Hand down. I know who Mark Jackson is now. Okay. Go tea.

So here's, I think the Bengals knew. I think the Bengals knew these guys could cook because I think they had some guys down and they knew, hey, we got to be aggressive. Fourth and three early, they knew because when they hit that cover two beater to Irwin, you're thinking, oh, they're not going to miss a beat. The whole thing. Jamar, the decoy. They scripted them up.

It was, it was beautiful. It looked like Bengals football. But you had then a spell of like five punts in a row. And four of these punts, four of these possessions, they ran 16 plays. Okay, so there are three, three and outs and two sets of downs on one of them. But over that course, here's what I took away.

The Texans could have run away with this game. Because while they're punting the ball, the Texans fumble a snap on the nine, they score a touchdown on a three minute drive. They fumble at the Cincinnati 31. They kick a field goal. The third downs, the extended plays, they really could have won,

going away here. And I think C.J. Stroud's the main event. I'm watching the game on All 22. I'm watching Aiden O'Connell and Zach Wilson. I'm like, is this the same sport? You know, like, it's, this is a quarterback. And I feel like we are, fuck it.

You guys are going to say I'm getting out over my skis. I try not to be overreactive. I can't wait. I'm going to do it. C.J. Stroud's an elite quarterback. He's the best quarterback in the NFL. Well, statistically speaking this year, if you're looking at picks and that sort of thing. I mean.

If they won out, somebody said if they won out, would he win the MVP? But I asked you that last week when I had mentioned, oh, MVP after he had that one game. And everyone. Well, I didn't know they were going to go on the road and beat the bangle. Yeah, I didn't know all that. You want to do stuff? You want to do. Hold on a minute.

Hold on a minute. You want to do stuff like this? Do you want to win games like this down the stretch? They will talk about you in that light. And they should talk about. Three turnovers. Because Kyle. On the road.

I can watch. I can watch a freaking. in Lions game, I can watch a Dolphins game, I can watch some of these other offenses that are high-powered, and you know, they'll rack up yards and some of the chunk plays are there. And not all these balls are tight window throws that CJ Strouds making, but they are elite armed talent

fucking throws. They are like, wow throws, you know, like when you watch John Phillips hit a softball, the way it's different in our softball league, like it's just like, oh my god, this guy's different. It's the same thing with the, bro, the boot, When he booted to the left hash and threw the ball and then bounce to the right hash

and threw the ball to the opposite numbers, 41 yards down the field in the air. I mean, I just, my jaw was on the floor. What it was in the third quarter when he boots out into Trey Hendrickson and he's like, oh shit. And then he climbs the pocket, bails out the back of it

and wheels backwards. And he's like, we, 37 yards in the air to Noah Brown. Just jumping. It's like, dude, the fucking flick of the wrist to tank Dell by the pylon, to get him inside the fine. The most impressive one to me was the one that didn't count as a touchdown.

The Robert Wood's the legal touchdown. I mean, what the fuck is going on out here? Who the fuck is this guy? And how did people miss this so badly? He scored poorly on that test. Because honestly, Kyle, you want to talk about rookie quarterbacks? I've been out of the game for four or five years doing this for a living and watching quarterbacks.

Like when I played them, you watched them getting ready for the game. But now I have to watch quarterbacks. and I don't think I've seen, no I haven't seen a rookie like this, but on top of that, the last guy that reminded me of this kind of great, like when he came in

was the guy on the other sideline yesterday. You know, that poise in the pocket, that cool, like, I don't know who has more ice water in their veins, him or Joe Burrow. And so, like, to go beat that guy

with the Ohio State backer and the whole thing, this is a huge game for them. He was unflappable. Logan Wilson almost picked him early in the game. He was mugged up. He dropped out.

He was like, okay. Called that on tops, by the way. Yeah, that Logan might. I said double nickels, watch him being mugged up in the A gap and dropping out. They're going to show CJ this and they're going to. Yeah. And he almost fucking happened.

Yeah, well, he didn't pick him. And then he comes back and he's like, oh, let's just run our offense. Let me just go. Or late in the game, throwing that pick, coming back in two minute and just moving the ball down the field. Not to mention the first play of that two minute drive is a drop by Tank Dell that you go for 25 yards.

A lot of guys are going to go into tank after that. So I just, not only the high end throw, but his fucking what? I didn't even mean to do that. When you're cooking, you're cooking. But like, he's just unflappable. Noah Brown is a man. He's a man, bro.

And when they threw in the ball and they had to have it, he looked like Adrian Peterson. He trucked Jermaine Pratt. I'm going to take this football where I want to go. He trucked the linebacker. That's like not a buddy pass, but he's going to get blown up instead. He looked like a cold. Everyone wanted to avoid him.

Every time they moved around, he just dropped him. No question. Rankins, great job on defense. And this is what I want to talk about, Kyle. Bringing everybody's game up. I mean, that's what it is. And Domeko was like at the beginning of the year, they got a win early.

And he was like, just believe we're building something here. Like the vibe is different now. They have a living quarters now. They're just building additions on. Kyle having nightmares. Sheldon Rankins, Sheldon Rankins was open up Kansas. ass who've been all day. It was insane some of the things he was doing to Kappa. I mean, he was spinning, bull jerk, the whole thing. Every big situation, you know, Joe's end zone pick was terrible. The pick

down the seams, not good, but they don't pick that ball off if Rankin's in his face. That's the only reason that I think he throws that pick is that flash of color, where at the last second he beats Kappa. He's been doing it all game, and then the ball sails on him down the seams. Not to mention, I mentioned late in the game when they're down there chasing a couple scores in crunch time. I think they go up. Now the boy drop was terrible, but I think they go up if Rankins doesn't get him behind the six down there. I mean like, so Rankin's had a huge effect on this game, three sacks.

I've always liked his game. This might be his finest work in the biggest game that he's played in his career. Not just him, Grenard bullying the shit out of that big SOB at left tackle. Grinard's going to make himself some money this year. I mean, people come to watch Will Anderson. You stay to watch Jonathan Grenard. And the big touchdown throw, Burrow had rolling left, was on a bull attempt,

and Orlando sat down on the bull. He did a good job getting his hands on Grenard. Burrow getting outside and throwing a cross body to the back left. Just an awesome throw and feel. He's still Joe Burrow. Still an awesome throw and feel. And when I watched this matchup, you know, like I tweeted when the Chargers were playing the Chiefs.

I said it would be great if every game head of Mahomes and Herbert type talent matchup. Well, add this to the list. Anybody who C.J. Stroud plays that you consider to be elite, you're in for a treat every time that they play. It was the most fun I've had watching football a year. Kevin Harlan on the call, two elite quarterbacks, fuck it, we'll skip all the pleasantries.

He's an elite quarterback, right? And it felt like one of those playoff games. And I don't know if you hear that noise. Do you hear that noise? No. It's not an Emmy. It's the Texan Super Bowl window opening. The window is a jar, dude.

I mean, they took the lead on the Bengals for the playoffs. And I have the Bengals in my top five last week. You know, like this is a team that I'm afraid of. I'm not saying it's going to be this year, Kyle. But all I'm saying is with what you thought they were going to be coming in the season, Nico Collins is your guy that's balling out. You get Tank Dell. You've got Robert Woods, veteran presence.

You have a good back. You're investing in the offensive line. But for much of the season, they've had a lot of those guys down. And I just, like, here's the thing. The run game was what was missing. And yesterday, Devin Singletary was like a revelation for them. I don't know if it was what they were doing. I don't know if Titus Howard being in at Guard is a decision that they make,

pay them to come play tackle. You're like, hey, we got to get the run game going with one of our best players inside. But there was no drive that encapsulated it more than that first touchdown drive, Kyle. And when I talk about Sam Hubbard being missing, being a big deal, I talked about that in the previews, that left end position is so important. That's where all the traffic is. That's where teams are going to put a bunch of bodies.

And for Lou Anirumo, this is a really gap sound defense. So if one guy's out of the gap, if they're fucking something up a little bit, they don't make big vertical seam plays where somebody has a TFO in the backfield, that sort of thing. So whether it was bad footwork on a cutback by sample, whether it was the end around

where Osai's running around like a mad dog in a meathouse, whether it's that lead at a near pistol where they're running some sort of a stunt. And this is all on one drive, where you got to depend on Miles Murphy to make plays in the run game. He's two gaps over. Everybody else is one gap over.

I don't know who's fucking that up, but somebody's not right, whether they're getting the edge on Murphy, whether the edge blitz guys getting nosy, Singletary made them pay all day. And I think that run game, if they can keep that going, makes them a complete team.

We talked about the rushers, quarterbacks otherworldly. If they can run the ball, they're going to be good. And for the Bengals, it's a little bit of a troubling look into the future. And I don't mean they're going to look like this every week. Joe's going to play great even without three good wide receivers some weeks. But without Higgins, you can't pay everybody. We talked about coming in.

You can take chase away. You can throw bodies at him and try to then erase Boyd, who had some big drops. Those margins become slimmer when you don't have. three wide receivers. You talk about playing San Francisco, the advantage they had. Their third guy can't cover your third guy. Well, that's a big thing because it's pretty rare to have three cover guys in the NFL that you feel really comfortable with to go take away receivers. So I think like it's a look into the future. And I think overall the Bengals are going to be fine. But holy shit for a team, a franchise in the Texas that beat them twice in the playoffs. Like in the recent

T.J. Yates, I think beat them once, the whole thing. This could be a little rivalry if you see them again in the playoffs. I'm excited to see this game happen a couple times a year. It felt like a challenge. It felt like in Bring It On when the Clover gals met the, you know, the Oak Tree gals. Yeah. They were kind of like.

That's already been broadened. And it was already brought in yesterday when CJs tried to shut up and we're not coming. We're here. He whipped it out in Cincinnati in front of the Tigers. And so, you know, in front of the tigers. And it was, it was indicative of what's to come. And as for the Bengals side of things, Joe Burrow, man,

it kind of worries me a little bit because he's healthy. He's making great plays, like the one I just alluded to earlier, rolling left, throwing cross body. But at the same time, it's the interceptions

that are untimely, they're uncharacteristic of who Joe Burrow is. He's a guy that's going to find the hands give his guys an opportunity like he did at the end of the game, Tyler Boyd with that drop. Because they win that game.

They win the game. And the narrative would be so much different. The narrative is so much different. So like if John, okay, if this game was, against the bills, if the Texans beat the bills and C.J. Stroud had

the game that he did and Josh Allen had those turnovers. Would the storyline be as much C.J. Stroud and more about Josh Allen's turnovers? Yes, it would be about Josh Allen. You know what I mean? They'd be dogging Josh Allen. But I don't I think Joe

has a better track record and not making the boneheaded plays. And I think like Josh that's become kind of the thing. It's like this incredible talent when he's on. There's almost nobody better than him. But like that pick in the cover two last week or some of these kind of brain farty play.

Sailing the ball over the middle yesterday, tip drill ends up in somebody's laugh. You're talking about Joe. Yeah, these are throws that are... But he's not a repeat offender every week. And that's why I'm... But in a game where you're being challenged by a guy who's on the cusp of elite categorization,

you would think that a guy like Joe Burrow or a guy like MJ, or a guy like LeBron, or a guy like Patrick Mahomes is going to say, not so fast, my friend. Now Patrick Mahomes has had games like this. But you hear what I'm saying. It's uncharacteristic, like I said.

How many picks does Patrick Mahomes have this year? A million. Okay. But he's going to be the first guy that I'm going to put money on in the playoffs. And Joe, the same way for me. And a lot of times when they played, it's been, it's been Borough that's come out on top.

So I'm just saying, I think he deserves a little leeway. I'm not excusing the picks yesterday. But yeah, this was, I want to shoot it. Should have won that game. Should have. I want to see this again. I want to see this again. I'm addicted to this game. And one thing, Nate, this is for you more than anybody, but I read this last night. One of the biggest payouts ever on U.S. soil closed on a parlay with the Amandola kick at the end of that Houston game. Florida man doing Florida man things. He won 5.5 mil. 5.5 mil on a 500K four-leg parlay. Tax-free. With hard rock sports book.

I think because it's in Florida. Is it tax-free? I don't know. But he had Texans money line. He had Bengals Texans over 44.5. He had a Devin-Singletary touchdown and Devin Singletary over 51-5 yards. Wow.

They let this guy in the meeting. Wow. Like, incredible. The stones on this cat. And the Tyler Boyd drop. Tyler Boy Drop was probably. The Tyler Boyd drop money. How much did he win, though?

$5.5.5 million. But you got to think. I think, yeah, that's amazing. I had a $200 parlay paid out $2,200 yesterday. I was sending it to group text all of giddy. Can you imagine? But do you think that, like, that dude is breaking even with a bet like that big? You think, like, that's his only time.

You're right. That's a good question. He hedged it. Like, he's definitely netting green there. I think he knows. I think he knew some. He knew some. Oh, gosh.

Even if you know son, still a lot of things got to go right. And also, if you're betting 500K, I don't think that's the end of the world. to you yeah but the the talking about Florida here the Jags the Florida men not taking you not taking care of business yesterday and I liked the Niners coming in I thought they were gonna look more like the Niners especially if they got Trent and Devo back that turned out to be true intermediate passing game look like them the run game look like them defensively Steve Wilkes we're not gonna blitz as much I'm moving down to the sideline hey from here I can see we got pretty good deal

You know? Or from here I can hear what my defensive players are saying. Which is just let us fucking rush. Let us rush. So he was down to 10%, which is way down from their season average. So that was good. A lot of people, like I'm on inside the NFL,

they were like, hey, you guys want to a Chase Young cut up. Like you want to do a Chase Young cut up tomorrow? I was like, no, I want to do a Sheldon Rankin's cut up. You know, a lot of people are going to attribute this win to Chase Young. Chase Young's part of the win. But Javon Hartgrave. How about George Kittle Switch release in Man,

in man coverage getting the lob shot from Brock. How about that? You know, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar back there. How about that? Kareem Abdul-Japurdy. Yeah, cash-purti outside. And so how about that? For real.

Yeah, no. And so I think the Niners look more like the Niners. They poured it on the whole thing. And Javon Hargrave stepped up big for them. I thought one thing that was big for them was Ambrie Thomas getting more snaps. Lenore playing more nickel and less Isaiah Oliver. That was a name that had been popping up a lot. lot the last couple weeks. But the bottom line is one team was sleep walking off a buy and one team

used the buy to come in and ready to play. And one team was charging their boom box. Yeah, one team charged the boom box. The other one, that shit was on red. And the Jags at one five straight, the Niners felt like the sky was falling. Purdy's under a lot of pressure figuratively. And when he was under pressure yesterday, in actuality, he was very good. Like, look at that kiddle ball in the second half to open up to, like, really put the game away. He was very good against pressure, and my favorite thing he said yesterday was on the IU circus touchdown.

He's like, people are stroking him, and he's like, hold on a minute, player. I'm trying to eliminate some of these throws from my game. That was not a great job. And he looks sheepish about it. Not good, Cotton. The self-awareness on Brock Purdy to say that after the game, it's encouraging.

I think if he can play like this, if they can play like this, there's a reason they're back up to the top of the Super Bowl. odds. Doug off a buy in Philly, one and four. Okay. So even as good as we were off a buy, not great. Something to look at. The Jags can't run the ball. They're busting coverages, 29 yards out the gate to Kittle. Campbell's not playing cover three. Everybody was playing cover three. He's like running with the motion guy. They killed him again out of the half through the air and the miss cues. Like for this offense, we've said this all year. Not great on third down.

Not great in the red zone. Kind of sounds like the Seattle Seahawks. Are they like the AFC Seattle Seahawks where, you know, you're like, this team's a good team, but take that next step. You can't be bottom third in both, which they are. And yesterday on third and 10, and you can't just waste third downs against the Niners, Kyle. They're seeing Fred Warner and these guys mugged up. They're thinking, oh, they're blitzing.

They check to like what I think is a tunnel screen. Both guys tap their helmet outside Agnew Kirk. Okay, we're going to roll. We'll try to get underneath this blitz. both of them go to block. There's nobody to throw to, and Trevor Lawrence gets sacked. That's the type of shit that loses your games. And I know you lost this game 34 to 3 in a boat race,

but if you want to beat good teams, you can't waste one of these third downs. Or it's like third and four, you throw a slot fade. How about the matchup with Ridley? It doesn't even look over there. So on third down, they're just not getting it done. They have four turnovers and three points. The fumble down at the goal line, Kyle.

somebody finished the fucking play man yeah it was emblematic of the whole day and so you come out of the gate and you're slow and you're slow to the finish i got a text from tyler campbell when i woke up it was like 530 a m and in new york and Tyler campbell was up big game day here in jacksonville like we're ready to roll the fans were ready and i was like at 1230 you know or 1 30 when it was 30 to nothing at that point i texted i was like i'm really sorry about your whole parade your party There's no jagging off. Trent Williams is here.

And, you know, like, we talk about Trent Williams' ad nauseum. And we talk about Kyle Shanahan being an innovator offensively and getting the most out of his guys, and putting them in positions with the motions, with all kinds of action up front. And here's one, we've got it up on the screen here. We're going to just talk it through. It's not like I want everybody to see this play.

But they take 89, Werner. They bring them from the wide left side of the field. They bring them in motion down across the field. It looks, everything's telling you it's going to, to be zone right with a lead block coming from the left side with the tight end. Right before the snap, Werner puts the brakes on, he hits the reverse and he bluffs out. Now he's going wide left. Trent Williams pushes the guy down into the line of scrimmage and climbs. What I saw yesterday was Trent Williams, given the opportunity to get out ahead of plays

and be the spearhead of this operation offensively. When you got 71 in space with an opportunity to get a block, you're going to get yards every time. The friggin' niners have way too. many guys on offense that they can just say we're going to dial up a way to get him the ball get 89 71 in space that was a great example of it the touchdown to the Debo Samuel and it doesn't take away anything from this team because most teams have a couple guys that if they're not healthy they're not going to look the same and so it with these guys back they look great McCaffrey doesn't have to score yeah with that being said as a team that like obviously you can see when they have injuries they're not as good

do you like the coach's decision to try to push at the end of the game to get that last touchdown with McCaffrey instead of taking your guys out? I had the under, so no. I'm kind of like, come on, what are we doing here? And they deserve to not get in for that. But here's the thing with the Jags, man, and I think they're a good team, but they got to get those things straightened out, that situational football. They have been blown out a good bit.

I mean, like, they got blown out by Houston this year. Okay? They got blown out by Detroit late last year, 40 to 14. That great playoff comeback. Congratulations. But why are you down 27 to 3 at home to the chargers? You know, like, so they have this volatility about them that they're in a division that until yesterday, you felt like it was wide open. Okay.

They have good players. Trevor Lawrence, good quarterback. but until he eliminates games like this, if you go off of Ben Solac's metrics, EPA, I know he's not the only one that uses EPA, but this is from a tweet from Ben Solac, he said this is the worst game of his career, and that includes the Urban Meyer era,

and that's saying something. Now, I don't know if I go that far, but definitely a bad game from Trevor Lawrence. And, you know, when the offense isn't humming, heavy as the head that wears the crown, if you're not going on third down, we've got to look at you. If you're not getting the red zone,

we've got to look at you. Until Trevor Lawrence does these things best, better, he's a good quarterback, he's not elite quarterback. So in summation, the Niners are who we thought they were. Brock Purdy still needs to take care of the football better and the Jaguars. Are you guys frauds or not? What's the deal here? What's the deal?

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whether it's meters, yards, kilometers. The Browns had a lot of those on the ground yesterday. Oh, boy. Okay. So talk about Baltimore. And at one point it's 3117, and I've got one eye on the game, and I'm sweating something else. And I turn to the guys, I'm like, going to Baltimore is like being in a trash compactor. I mean, they just, you see it coming, and they just slowly crush you and suffocate you.

And that's what it was looking like, whether it was Detroit or Seattle or, and for, for, 45 minutes, they had this game in hand. Something changed. And we can get into what it was, but I think more than anything, Cleveland found an identity and an attitude yesterday that's going to suit them well. I think they came into this game as like, we're mad at the Ravens. And we want to find out if you punch them in the mouth if they're front runners. They're mad about a lot in Cleveland. They're mad that people said their quarterback didn't want to play football. They're mad that people have plenty of things to say about their quarterback. They're mad about the opinions about their ownership.

They're mad that people call them. The marine layer on that lake. You know what I mean? Like there's a million things that people love to hate about Cleveland. And Cleveland's taking it to heart. Mistake by the lake. It seems like they just said, oh, Ravens, class of the NFL, fuck them. And I had a Cleveland.

I understand you Cleveland fans. You've been through a lot. And, you know, I tweeted something yesterday about Seattle. And like underneath a Cleveland fan was like, you better give the Brown some credit. I'm like, in the Seattle tweet? You know, like, here's your credit. If you can play that way, if you have this identity,

and Deshawn's healthy, and the key is, over the course of this game, I think what they found out is like, hey, don't let the fact that we paid this guy more money than God and gave up the world to get him, distract you from the fact that we are a running football team that runs through a backup running back right now who's playing pretty well.

They bend people over up front. And that's the whole thing, Kyle, is like as the game went on, their air yards, or their average depth of target, rather, in the first half. And, you know, skewed a little bit because I think DTR took one shot. It was about 15 yards. So they're taking sure. Or Walker, sorry, Walker.

15 yards down the field. That was kind of like how far they were going with the ball in the first half. And in the second half, 5.9 yards an attempt. So they decided, hey, we're a running team. Let's dink and dunk these guys. Let's take what they give us. And Deshawn went 14 to 14 in the second half, I believe. Now, here's the thing.

They were down... I think it was 14-014. Yeah, they were down, what, like 7-0-0-14-9-whatever it was. After the Kyle Hamilton pick, all that stuff. 31-17, there were so many deficits, and they never went away from the run game. They never flinched, they never went away from it. And they had that attitude.

Like I talked about instigating. Did you see Teller decapitate O-A? I love his game. And Hudson's standing over him like he did it. I love his game. The teller's game is awesome. Nick Harris, the guy they put in it fullback, big number 53. They're trying to take Roquan's head off.

Like, I don't even know if they want to gain any yardage. They were doing things all day just to get in these guys' heads. Kyle Van Hoy, early play action rollout. They hit him so hard, it looked personal. I think it was Cedric Tillman or somebody. He just crushed him and stood over him. And then Kyle got a penalty. So it worked.

It got in his head. And notice something about the Lamar pick. talk about the Ravens in the second quarter the way they trick games off i talked about it last week seven turnovers in the second quarter two and all the other ones individually they had that back breaking pick they had the miss field goal which is set up by multiple negatives on second down and all that sort of first down second down when they hit lamar on the sideline that guy forward blew up lamar and it was like borderline but point taking get out of bounds Lamar not in this division lamar comes back to yeah Lamar comes back the next play they're pressed up on i think baitment

and I think part of why he threw that ball was to get that motherfucker that just knocked him out of bounds and he was just going there. And there's reason for me to believe that the Cleveland Browns were in the Ravens heads yesterday, whether it was what they did to Kyle or what they did to O.A. or what they did to Lamar on the sideline,

they were going to bring the fight to them. And the Ravens just made mistakes. They made a ton of mistakes. I talked about the second quarter stuff. In the second half, they start a great big drive with an Andrews chunk for 36 to the 40. up punting you know first play of a Cleveland drive. Matabike, by the way, should be in the defensive player of your conversation. Sack, long touchdown drive. So like they just get, you,

they start great and then they couldn't finish. And that way, they got Keaton Mitchell out there again. But not enough. But, you know, you'd see him. You get him the ball twice. He'll get two, you know, 200 yards. Beautiful. That pump draw where, you know, the pump gets the, the second level defender to go out and honor, I think it was a slant or whatever it was. And then he's out of the hole and there's space for Keaton Mitchell. It's like, I still like this offense. I still love the Ravens. Pumped laser.

But if you want to be talked about, and last week, Kyle, I don't know if you saw our YouTube, but somebody asked me at the start of the breakdown last week, who's the best defense in the league. And for me, that's not like currently, that's who I trust the most the rest of the year. So you can throw stats at me and the whole thing,

and I thought the Kansas City Chiefs. I think they're very battle-tested with Chris Jones and the way those backers play if they have Bolton and gay. Statistically, too. I mean, less than 21 and all the games. Look it up right now after yesterday, how do the defenses rank? But the point was, I said Kansas City,

but we wanted to give Baltimore a ton of props because they're right there. And how do you really, like, answer that question? It's just any given Sunday. Baltimore... If the Chiefs have Nick Bolton in their starting lineup with their players on defense, they're the best defense. And I'm not trying to double down just to be a dick, but like, we were getting taken through the ringer in the comment section.

People were like, do you even watch games? I watch all your games, okay? You've got a really good defense. I watch all your fucking games. Okay, you got a really good defense. I said last week they have a sneaky problem where they haven't played a bunch of quarterbacks, right? The first game, you beat them 27 to 3.

So you have to admit to me, whether it's the delta between DTR and Deshaun that made things look so different yesterday or whether you just weren't ready to play. And I'd rather it be the latter because you got a big game coming up this Thursday, you get out and you coast and you say, hey, in the second half,

I was thinking they were going to start packing in a little bit getting ready for that Thursday game. I don't know if they looked ahead and they got to run up on them, but you've got to be able to stop the run and you can't give up 30 points in a game, 31 points in a game like this. It's just like if you want to be talked about as the best defense in the league, and I know these guys would tell you that at the podium internally,

we got to be better than that. And so if you want to be talked about that way, there can't be aberrations like this. And it's just one game, but the defense has to step up. You lost Ronnie Stanley. And one thing, that's a big deal, the Ronnie Stanley law. Huge deal. But on defense, again, back to the narrative thing,

if Tyler Boyd catches that ball, we're talking about all the things we're talking about. We're not talking about the Texans the same way. If OA, if somebody falls on that ball at the end of the game, backed up, they're gonna win this game, they're gonna kick a field goal. OA had a great rush. So like build on that stuff,

you need your rush to win in big situations. You got that win. but it just didn't bounce your way. As a team, though, you got to play better defensively. That's a challenge you've got to fucking meet against a team in division that wants to come in and run the ball, and they did. Chiefs somehow get a win, even though they're on a buy.

Like now they're looking pretty good for the number one seed. Yeah. What's that total defense? Where do the Chiefs? We just had it. We just had it up. Chiefs are number one here, and it's interesting because I often equate sacks, Chris.

I often equate sacks to success, but the Ravens 39 sacks. They're in third, Niners and second, Chiefs in first. Chiefs, very good against the pass. Their numbers, past yards per game, are really good. But I mean, the Ravens, they're great against...

But the bottom of all these defenses, there's four defense in the NFL. These are the defense right here. There's four. There's four elite defenses in the NFL. It's the Chiefs, it's the Ravens, it's the Niners, it's the Browns. And the variability of the Browns, of the Browns is something that, you know,

I scared me off of calling them the best defense in the league. I think when the Niners are humming, they're up there. If they're not blitzin, if they get this shit together, they're up there. But the Chiefs, to me, you know, they're gamers, bro. They're gamers, and they got guys who win in big situations. Chris Jones wins in big situations, and the biggest of games we've seen.

And Clownie was winning yesterday. Clownie was winning yesterday, but like, hey, I want to see you guys abusing tackles with the game on the line, because that's what it's going to be, is like late in the season, you need your rushes to win. Cleveland, good football team.

They deserve a lot of credit for falling into what I think is a really good identity for them. It just confirmed it. And then for Baltimore, you just can't have that. You just can't have that. Not if you want to go where you're trying to go. You can't leak ground yarders like that. Give it to Keaton Moore. Keaton Mitchell.

Or Keaton Moore. Maybe they got to Keaton Moore. No, give it to Keaton. Whoever. Oh, give it to Keaton Moore. I'm not on a first name basis with this guy. Not yet. Okay, we talked about Pittsburgh, the AFC North.

We know Sinci, they stumble. So huge win for Cleveland. Everybody lost in division but you. That's the kind of Sunday you want. Still love the Ravens. A week ago, we were talking about Lamar MVP. I said it. Lamar's the MVP.

We're talking about Ravens' defense, best in the league. None of those things played out on Sunday. So just got to be better. That's all. Who's more valuable to their team than C.J. Stroud? Kyle, it's a great fucking question. When you look at the other guys, now Patrick Mahomes, I would make the other. Trent Williams.

Patrick Mahomes. Trent Williams. But Patrick is like the obvious. We're not going to say, Patrick. Yeah. No, there's not many guys. Trent Williams. Not many guys are more valuable to their team.

Aaron Rogers. Yeah, especially come week 17 when he comes back. By the way. Don't start with him. I did good. I didn't say shit. We just interviewed Kwan. T.J. Watt.

Ask him about Quan Alexander, he had an Achilles. You can't count him out. He could be back Wildcard Week. In a fortnight. In a fortnight, a couple fortnight. You guys. I didn't fucking say it. I know, I'm just joking.

But honestly, I told you guys this. Watching our show back, I watched that show back to watch that section. We talked about Aaron Rogers Achilles for six minutes, some of the funniest shit we've ever done. Unironically. You were so upset with me, Kyle. When I, during the ad read was like, I said, I made another joke about it, Your face is like,

like that classic, okay, Chris. You fucker. You fucker. All right, so we talked about the class of the ASC. We've talked about the ASC North. Let's talk about the NFC. The big matchup was Lions and Chargers. I thought you were going to say Josh Dobbs, dude.

Yeah, well, we're going to get to Josh Dobbs. It's like a insanity situation. People love. And they should love Josh Jobs. They love him so much and I like him less. team, Lynn Sanity time. It's Lynn sanity time. Do you remember Lynn sanity, Vince McMahon?

Do you remember when Kenyon Martin got mad at Jeremy Lynn for having Corn Rose? And he was like, what is that tattoo on your arm? That was the funniest thing that Jeremy Lynn ever did. And also, ballsy. That's real, right? He's like, what's up with that tattoo, bro? Kenyon Martin, scary guy. Okay, so Lions, man.

This game had a thousand-yard. of offense, basically. It was a track meet from the start, and I was watching, I know you have money on the Lions. I found out after the fact that you have money on the Lions more than you know. But me, I'm a Justin Herbert guy, and I'm watching Justin Herbert play against this lion's offense, and they get out to that big lead, and I'm like, well, if there is a quarterback in the NFL is going to make this competitive, it's Justin Herbert.

We're in for a treat, you know what I mean? And seeing him sling the ball over the place, David Montgomery back in that lineup, is such a huge piece for their identity. I mean, we know that he hits the whole hard. We know that he can make a linebacker miss. And Chris, you and I were saying this before the show. Like, it was an example of showcasing all talents in one run on that massive explosive run. He tiptoed.

He made the guy miss on a jump cut. He hit the whole hard. He pressed the linebacker. You don't get to see this top end productivity from David Montgomery in Chicago. Like, just he's in such a good situation. First off. No offense. I said it after the development.

double doing games. Shots fired. When I, but hold on, when I fired a shot. I had a couple pro bowl running backs run behind me there,

one. No question. Well, you play in Chicago. So it's a fan, it's a fan voting thing. Jordan Howard, a lot of yards. It's a fan voting thing.

Matt Forte. What? If you want to talk about that, it's a fan. Matt, you heard it. The fans. Not Matt Forte.

I'm not taking anything away from Matt Forte. And Kyle's taken today and last year. Jordan Howard. Out of league multiple years. Okay. After the double dooint game,

what did I say, Kyle? we were too soft to play the Eagles I said except Kyle Long true but you know I am us we are me okay well not anymore Kyle we're just breaking down the games and what I'm telling you is these fuckers up front are like on a string together in the run game and it is a thing of beauty to watch and David Montgomery that long run not just the offensive line the one on the sideline James sprinting up we saw it with I think Khalif Raymond in Tampa where somebody Just a receiver who's just these guys are just supposed to want to fucking catch the ball

But that Dan Campbell rubs off on this entire team Jamison Williams sprinting up there He might have had that Montgomery anytime TD Okay, but he's sprinting up there and he's getting a big block you want to be in the frame. You know for the big plays You want you want you want to be that like it's just like you know this play is gonna get ran and you know that Everyone's gonna highlight hey look I made a real good down the field block and receivers I feel like you said, it's coaching, like to get guys to buy into that when you're not receiving the ball. You get. That's a point of emphasis in that meeting.

You get what you emphasize. As a coach, as a parent, as a leader, you get what you positively reinforce. And so when you know, without a shadow of a doubt this morning, that team's sitting there, if they don't have victory Monday, they're watching that screen. And the first thing Dan Campbell does probably is pull up Jamison Williams and say, not the touch of it. Guys, this is what the fuck it takes. Yep.

You know, and it gives me chills thinking about a room like that that's so bought into what this man is selling. Or it's Penae Soule out on the edge. I mean, like, they just... They have a bunch of guys with chips on their shoulders, dude. Amon Ross, St. Brown, Jared Gough. They've both been sold down the river before. You know, these dudes are just fighting for respect.

On the opposite end, when you're going into the meeting room as a charges, what are you saying as a defensive coordinator, watching your safety, get jerseys? and pinballed into two other guys on that big run. I mean, it's tough. What a cut, the whole thing. But you know, you're a defensive head coach. I've talked about this with Chargers a lot.

Kellan Moore had a great day. Justin Herbert, we're not going to spend all day talking about the Chargers because they lost the game, but Justin Herbert, off platform with Aidan Hutchinson chasing him late in the game. I mean, we talk about Stroud. Only a couple guys can make those throws. Justin may not have proven that he's, like, elite yet because of the team's record and that sort of thing,

but there's not a lot of guys that can bring them back from 24-10, from 17-3 against an offense like that that was never going to slow down. And in the second half, it really was, and I got to give props to Jared Gough, a situation where I worried he might turtle, not because he's Jared Gough, but just because it is hard to every possession,

be like, we have to score. It's a big 12 game from, like, 2003. It felt like Oregon against USC last week, where it was like Oregon's supposed to win. in this game, the Lions, but like USC's got a guy who can go out there and score. Whoever gets the stop. So it's like fuck.

Whoever gets that last stop. And I think if you look at the first 17 minutes in this game, I said to these guys, if they lose this game, it's gonna be, it's like malpractice because they were dominating time of possession, yardage, yards per play. At one point they have like 11 yards per play over like a big sample size in this game.

And you know, being down there, Getting up 10 to 3, they get the pick. It sets up these crazy sequences down on the goal line. I felt like we had more crazy sequences on the goal line, including the Chargers getting like eight downs on that tickey tack foul in the end zone. But this game had everything. And right down to the fourth and two where Dan Campbell is being Dan Campbell. And I'm in here pleading with Dan Campbell because I got these guys minus one.

And I'm like, Dan, don't do it. I know you're going to do it, but please don't do it. If you don't get this, you're going to lose the game. And it was true. If they did not complete that fourth and two to Sam Leporta, who on our show said, I pride myself in being a security blanket with sure hands for this guy and being in the spot where I need to be.

And he was exactly that. And Jared going there and just the sure-handedness, they don't even blink. And as a gambler, I don't have that in me. I forget what it's like to be a player. Even fourth-down decision bot didn't like it, which it almost always tells you to go. And I think he's,

his worry was, hey, with a, you know, a minute and some change left. If we kick a field goal, they could go win this game. And that leads me to my bigger point, which is, hey, a couple months ago or a month ago, I said, hey, because I hate this word, are the Lions contenders? I'm like, I'm not convinced yet. I mean, I just, I want to see him do more. And that, like, that's a quarterback thing. It's also a team thing where you're like, I, Dan's putting in his, his program. They won some big games last year, but now you've got to see them build on it.

Okay, now they're the hunted. And they're going on the road to play, the charges shoot. We've got a target on our back. They got a target on their back now. I can hear it. I can hear it. This is the type of game to go in and win,

however you win it, whether it's a shootout or a low-scoring game to win on the road against the team that quite frankly is playoff caliber. They probably won't make it against a big-time quarterback and to pull this thing out. That's great.

But the defense has got to be better. If you want to get out on people and jump them, You can't have the last 45 minutes of that game. When you put them down, you got to kill him. You got to kill him. And Dan. And what's more Dan Campbell? Than putting somebody down and killing him.

Drag him out to the deep water where they can't swim. Yeah, there was a riptide and they couldn't get them out to the deep water. They just kept. They were on a fucking sandbar. They brought him to the wrong part of the water. You just got to bring him to the deep water. You know? So I just, with the defense, you're going to play Philly in the playoffs.

you're going to play San Francisco, you're going to play some of these high-powered offenses. It can't look like that. The blue bloods. And so that's my point, is like, hey, build on something, build on. When we see an elite quarterback, if we do get a lead,

how do we play this game a little bit differently? Because that was too close for comfort. I asked TJ about the chips, the outside chips. And, you know, it really came about from watching this charger game, watching the chips that they were given Solior. And the influenced inside rushes that he was getting. One thing that we always are told is stay inside out on these rushers. And when you get that outside chip, which I saw happen a lot for the Chargers,

you're going to influence that inside rush, and you have a tendency, like T.J. Watt said, you know, one of the best pass rushers in the game, you have a tendency to overset. Yeah, you're facing these speedy rushers. You want to get off the ball, get to your spot, and fight your fight against Aidan Hutchinson. Next thing you know, a receiver who hasn't been playing all week, your position is trying to put every ounce of energy into hitting that guy's hip and not at the right time sometimes not not with the right it's just a pep peeve i wanted to get out no i mean and and hutch man like he's just got to keep rushing i like i said this year he came out he was out to a really hot start

kind of cooled off a little bit i think he's a really good rusher you know i think you rush inside rush out he's got to be it's it's an unfair task to be the only guy and i'm not saying the only guy because because Aleem McNeil is a fucking beast, and they have some other good players. But heavy is the head that wears the crown, like down the stretch. In some of these ball games, what you want to see is like somebody like Hutch

make a big play, a turnover. You know, when they're scoring at will, when they're catching up, the rush will take care of that. And I think the rush has just got to stand up in situations like that. I'm over here laughing because, have you guys seen the meme of Aiden Hutch is looking like

Warluji? Waluigi? Waluigi? No. The way he rushes it. That's funny. That's funny. Pull it up, pull it up.

No, I mean, pull it up. Hutchinson Waluigi. I just want to say this one more thing. Oh, my God. With the game on the line, you got a minute 40 to go. Jared Gough leading that drive. The reason I brought up the contender thing, if I see him do that more, it's not like he hasn't done it before with this team on the road against the bullet.

Oh, that's a catalyst. Like, that's just a huge deal. And the Raymond play was huge. to get them into plus territory, but it comes back to the fact they're willing to run the ball in any fucking situation. Kendrish gets sucked up.

They hit Raymond outside. They get in plus territory. I mean, you're talking about a team on fourth and fucking five. They run the ball. And Montgomery drags people for three yards to pick it up. Third and six, they run the ball.

They don't even blink. They don't blink. We're getting to that time in the NFL where the teams that can run the ball consistently, they're going to pull these type of games out. Al Groh came in here, okay? My coach, Al Jeezy, from college, our coach.

Great football in mine. Seem more football than, forgot more football and I'll ever learn. And he's like, Chris, he talks all quiet. He's like, Chris runs plus completions. He's like, go look at that. The teams with more runs and completions are gonna end up some old school shit.

But it's true. He's like been charting it all season. It's like the Ten Commandments. It just makes sense if you think about it. It's like, These things just kind of make sense. Yeah, yeah, don't covet. Yeah.

But don't tell me the running back position is dead because these two guys make a huge difference. Gibbs and David Montgomery. It's just the running back position is dead if you don't know how to use them and you don't have the pieces around them. If you don't have the pieces around you, is absolutely right.

And I'll call on some coaching knowledge that I heard from Andy Heck. I mean, he used to say, like, we have to be the best team when everybody in the stadium knows that we're going to run the ball. You know what I mean? Four minute mode.

We got to have this first down. How are we going to get it? We're going to run it. They know it. We know it. Now go execute it. The good teams to Nate's points, the great teams to Nate's point, run the ball when everybody in the stadium knows they're going to run it.

I want to talk about another team that wants to be great. They're very good. They're legitimately the worst nightmare of a team that's catching like 14 points. It's the Cowboys. I mean, didn't know how to handicap this game. It was one of my missteps yesterday. I said, take the under. I took the under.

I thought it was going to be like 34 to 3. Four minute mode the whole game. Yeah, and the Cowboys ran the ball. It was too much C.D. Lamb. Another bad team that they just beat the shit out of. And I know the Cowboys fans who say, give us more credit, but am I lying? No, you can't give credit to a bully.

They're classic bullies. Like, you know what I mean? The bully that... I think they're good. I think they're good. I thought they netted positive in a loss last week against Philadelphia. I thought they played well in that loss against Philadelphia. I mean, a lot of people are like,

oh, Dak can't win the big game, that sort of thing. Here's what Dak has to eliminate. And Dak bald in that game. Last week I said something on this show and somebody was in my mentions right away. It was like, I go, we were talking about Dak and I go, Dak was fine. Okay, and what I mean by that is

DAC was not the reason they lost in Philly. Okay, just for the record, I thought he played well. Yesterday, though, you got to eliminate, and I know you beat up on this team by a million points, but it's that pick against Cover 2 where he's not checking the flat defender against the out. and, you know, like, it's basic shit

in a game that you've got to run away with. It's just those little mistakes, you know, and I hate to nitpick. You said Joe Burrow deserves more blame when he throws two picks. I'm doing the opposite with Dak, but because I think Joe's proven things that Josh Allen hasn't,

that Dak hasn't yet. So, you know, like for me, Dak, I just want to see, like, because that mistake is going to be a big mistake against one of these good teams. And so, like, that would be my only nitpicky thing. otherwise, Cowboys went out and did what they were supposed to do.

Do you think the Cowboys are similar to Miami in the sense that they're kind of frontrunners? They're only beating. I think Dallas is more for real. Dallas is more for real. I think they're better than Miami. But Dallas hasn't beat any teams over 500 or any. I still think that they. Have they not?

I don't know. Any team with winning records, all teams they've beaten have had non-winning records, I believe. I've seen this movie for a few years. I think the big thing is like, who are they going to be in January? How's that going to play? Because everything else is like Stephen A was on the field last year with the Eagles, or last week for the Eagles Cowboy game. And he's meeting with Jerry Jones at the 50 yard line.

He's like, you did your job. Now they got, Dax guy, like he basically what he's saying is every piece is here that you need to win with. It does come down to the quarterback. And that's what, yeah, he was like, you know, like I've been shitting on you for three years on TV. But honestly, the right pieces are in place. This is a good football team.

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Conservative indeed. All right. So a liberal would be out there just... Okay, I just wanted to scratch the surface. That's freedom! I was scratching the surface of the topic. I'm going all in. I'm opening the zipper.

Okay? All right, so it's Dobbs month. Dobbs month. So here's the part of the show where we talk about. Just the huge lump of teams wadded up like gum in the NFC that are trying to get in the wild card game. And hey, hand up.

I didn't know A couple reasons I didn't know The Vikings were going to be this good Number one, like the Lions win total That's going over easy Got a Resto hardware Chase lounge on that And then got a got like a sectional as well

On the Vikings under But they're going to hit the over dude It's just I was wrong In this winning streak I was yeah I was wrong about this team I Kevin O'Connell was right about this team

Imagine that The coach knows better than a guy with a podcast but I just didn't see it, especially with Justin Jefferson going down and getting to the trade deadline, I thought with the way Kirk's situation is going to the next season, with the, I think part of the confirmation bias for me was coming in the season,

you look at that defense, it's Hunter, but it's a lot of unproven guys, a ton of blitzing. I didn't think the guys would be able to hold up outside. I just want to say this about the defense. O'N3 Start, and this is from Kevin Seifert of ESPN. 0 and 3 starts since then the defense's fourth in points allowed fifth in defensive efficiency fifth in defensive EPA fifth and take away seventh in yards per game damn brian flores and i

knew this because i played for brian flores is not only a fucking great guy but a great coach and a guy who should be a head coach in this league again um and he's proven that the way he's he's he's turned this defense around and and you know like we're going to talk about josh jobs but i wanted to give them props. I think they've been great lately. And on offense, the Ewing theory is playing out. Not that I believe it. You know, I think Justin Jefferson needs to get back

and they're going to look really good. So what you're saying is I'm right. Well, you want to say what you told people? Well, they should be knowing what I fucking said because I said Justin Jefferson should be on the trade block. Well, it's too late for that. But around the deadline, you were saying, you're like, if I was GM, I'd get all the picks I could for Justin Jefferson.

I didn't have three good players instead of one great player. Well, that's what Carolina thought. That's what Chicago thought. You know, that's my point is like, you know, draft capital, draft capital, you got this special guy here. I know that we were thinking sell, sell, sell deadline, but I'd rather do that with Hunter. You know, I don't know, this guy is a quarterback's best friend.

Now, they've been making, hey, with Addison and Hawkinson and all the sons, they had a great game yesterday, both of them. But the big thing is Josh Dobbs. And, you know, like after that dangerous throw to Addison, and early that doesn't get picked. I feel like he was like, okay. The prophecy is correct.

Okay. It was like the last game, he fumbled the ball. They almost ran it back for a touchdown. He's out there doing a bunch of dumb shit. He survived. Like he has nine lives. And then he's out there running around like a cat. Flushed third and five to Hawkinson in the second quarter. Beautiful play.

Third and six in the red zone. Alante Taylor's like, oh, fuck, I did see that highlight last week. Oh, I'm the guy in the Josh Dobbs movie. He's going to sit me down at three arms. and scramble in the end zone for a touchdown. So the Dobbs magic just continues, including that throw to Hawkinson over DeMario Davis's head. Oh, man.

It was like just layering. Three inches above his fingertips. This guy's a good quarterback. And here's the thing about saying good quarterback, bad quarterback. You've got to have a coach that can get the best out of you. And he did that a week ago with no preparation. O'Connell did it again this week with a full week. their offense really looked good.

It wasn't like some flash in the pan shit. It looked better than it did last week against Atlanta in that they just put together a full game plan and they whooped these guys' asses early. This did not become a game until Derek Carr got fucking leveled. And then the James Magic started.

Me and Nate were watching. That Olavé touchdown in the corner of the end zone and the red zone ball that he threw across the field. The high point ball? Buddy. Like, James was out there like it was Florida State. Fuck you.

Let me ask you this. Until the picks. It has to be that the Saints just aren't trying to give him up because why hasn't someone tried to grab him? Like, I feel like James is probably- Inside job. Like, James, you don't think James could be doing better for the Jets right now? Bro.

No, I mean. Like, there's certain teams. You're right. Absolutely right. Do I think that James and Garrett Wilson would connect for two tuds every game? thousand percent thousand percent here's the deal and nobody was talking about him you make great point nobody was talking about going to get james winston uh maybe they thought we got cam newton

making demands on instagram mas winston's like just sitting on the bench behind tason hill in wingdings in that font bro yeah wing ding send over a third round pick or else he had to use the king's uh english in order to put eight million a year yeah he had to switch from wingdings to go back to millions. Pounds. I love it, though. He's sticking to it, so I love it. No, listen, this game was almost a classic.

Ultimately, it was like early in the game on one of the first downs, Mattelis comes through the A-gap and blows up Derek Carr, and they're off the field. And then late in the game, that fateful interception, the second to last one,

Mattelis, up the middle, same track. Camara just doesn't pick him up, and it's a punt. And it's the same thing. at the end of the game. I don't think he needed to throw that ball, that last pick, and that's the James.

They're like, oh, fuck, well, that's why you're, you know. But fair or unfair, I thought he gave them a chance to win, and for the Vikings to close another game out on defense, pretty pretty good. I mean, and they ran the ball. They ran the ball for 125 yards. They had one read option where they got the back leading Josh Dobbs out into the flat. I mean, like, they really, they really ran the ball.

they had a good plan and they looked like a serious team. Dobbs. That's six and four. Dobbs, three straight games with at least one passing and one rushing touchdown, including his last game with Arizona, the only players with longer streak since 1970 merger, Justin Fields, Kyler Murray, Michael Vick. So, I mean, the things that Kevin O'Connell sees...

There's a wide range in there, yeah. The kid that, the thing that Kevin O'Connell sees with this guy, Josh Dobbs, is he can do a bit of everything. And when called upon to do something, he has faith that he's smart enough and good enough to get to Got to be a great feeling for Dobbs, like to jump into our organization. Obviously, the chips fell in his way right away with the guy in front of him getting hurt and them getting pushed in.

But for a coach, an organization, just two weeks in to be like, hey, we're kind of, this is like he feels like he might be the guy at least for the end of the season. This is the hand we're dealt. So like, hey, we're going all in. We're going all in and hoping the dealer bust every time. And that's what's kind of going on. And it's one of those things now the trickle down of the team feeling like, hey, our starting quarterback is hurt with cousins going out. But now, hey, we actually might have a guy and our star receiver isn't back yet.

Like, we might be able to do something. And when that starts to happen in the locker room, guys start to work out and more and watch tape more and do all the little things that it could be an exciting. It changes the whole mood in the building. And from going from the trade deadline, where they go out and get Josh Dobbs to now, like the mood has to be 180 degrees different from where Kirk Cousins gets hurt and you think all the season's over.

Mensa making two really good moves two years in a row at the deadline for Hockinson and then for Dobbs this year, like they're doing the right things up there. And I got to say, like, you know, something about being wrong. When you're wrong, you're wrong about a team and some of you will be like, all right,

now we're doing this, but I'm going to do this. Who do you trust more, Minnesota or Seattle? Minnesota. Minnesota. Who do you trust more? Tampa or Minnesota? Minnesota. Minnesota, no doubt.

Who do you trust more, Atlanta and New Orleans or Minnesota? Minnesota. So, I mean, like, I know it's a small sample size. I know it's the Saints who you absolutely can't trust. I don't care if the Saints are like, here, I got a million dollars for you. There's a catch. Like, they just cannot be trusted. You needed five takeaways to beat Baygent and the Bears last week.

It's the same thing. this week you didn't get the takeaways and here we are. You get run out of the gym almost by the Minnesota Vikings led by Josh Jobs. Big kudos to Josh Dobbs for taking full advantage. There's not enough guys in the league. There's a big number of guys in the league who are good players.

They don't take advantage of the marketing side of the NFL. They don't get their name out there, their face, their brand out there. Josh Dobbs whoever's in charge of his socials, they've done a great job of introducing him to people who are just scrolling Twitter and not watching the football games. I mean, he's awesome. He's on TikTok.

He's making all kinds of highlights. People love him. It's the kind of story. It's the kind of story. Maybe they don't win a Super Bowl or anything like that, but it's the kind of story that's good for the league. Yep. You know, for, you look at this.

Took over the league's headliner. Took over the Swifties. They had the Swifties up there. He beat the Swifties. And now they put the back from them. Josh Dobbs saved us from the Swifties. Saved. Who would have thought?

I don't know. I hate looking ahead this far. Buzz Aldrey. I totally see Josh Dobbs on a desk somewhere. You know, and this situation here. Yeah, like the popularity that he's got. could catapult him. He's going to get paid first.

No, somebody's going to pay him something. Absolutely. And I hate to go down the road that far. He's got a long career ahead of him. Roger Goodell, he's coming for your job. President, Josh Dobbs. Honestly,

and we're all, and we're all. Hey, run Josh Dobbs out there. I'll fucking vote for him. You can tell me I was taking boats away from the right guy, whatever. Fuck that shit. I'll vote for Josh Dobbs.

Let's go. Y'all need a dose of reality here. A rocket scientist that knows how to lead a two-minute drive. And capture the hearts of 53 alpha men. I'm rocked up for politics. Have you heard him tell the story about how they told him he wasn't going to be traded? And he just has no woes me, like in his tone of voice telling this story. And I just, it's just one, like you said, like if you're not rooting for him, you probably have something off with you.

If you thought it was cool in your life. I have the Vikings under wind total. I'm rooting for the guy. Exactly. If you thought it was cool when Obama was like saucing guys up in basketball. basketball, the White House. Just wait until a fucking football game. And Josh Dobbs is just...

Go along. Just breaking kids' ankles on the White House lawn. They gotta stop the... Stiff arming, Putin. And then even his, like, the way he celebrates, the way he celebrates, it's like, it's not too much, but it's like to show his teammates like, hey, like, I'm here, guys. Like, we could do this. Like, I'm your guy right now.

And it's, it's from a players to, like, an ex-player's perspective, to see. see you get that in two weeks, just outside looking in, that's special. Bro, tell me we wouldn't win the second Cold War. Tell me. I mean, I got us minus 300 with Josh Jobs as commander-in-chief. Like, fuck, he would do things with our space force. Yeah. Out of control.

Shout out to security details. Wait, what the hell is in-season hard knocks doing? Because they need to be just. They need to be just following, they just need to be following Dobbs at this point now. In season of Hard Knocks? Bro. That's it.

Netflix quarterback, biggest losers, Netflix quarterback show up they didn't have Josh Dobbs. Next year they'll put Josh Dobbs on it. It probably comes back down to earth, you know? All right. So anyways, the other team we've got to talk about is Seattle Seahawks.

Gutsy win, survived, low-scoring game. You know, I thought Sam Hal played really well. He did some really good things. But I don't know what it is about, Gino where he's got to have his back against the wall because in these late game situations,

game winning drives, game tying drives, he's been really good, even with the problems that they've had in the red zone on third down. So I got to give Gino his props. Again, they're kind of in this situation for me where I kind of look at them like Jacksonville where, okay, you're making noise. You might be up in your division or tied or whatever, but you got to fix some things before I take you like really seriously. And that's where I think Seattle is. But this was a big game because Leonard Williams got his first sack

on an inside move, beautiful. Maffa's got seven straight games with a sack. He went on a game. Lock it, the go-ahead pylon TD. Like that's what you need in November. You need your best players to make one play. Like look at the game and say, did our best players make a play?

Kenneth Walker taking it to the house. That's a play. That's making a play. That play's not drawn up. to go 64 yards. Somebody made a play. So whether it's Lockett, as he does, automatic at the pylon to go ahead.

He is so underappreciated. Witherspoon ripping the ball out. Like, whoever it was, somebody made a play in this game. So it might not have been the most sexy win. It might be something where Seattle fans go back to their computers and their Starbucks,

and they say, like, you know, it's fucking tiresome to be a Seattle fan. You never know what you're going to get week to week. But while you figure all this other stuff out, as long as these guys are making plays, you're going to be in it. I thought this was a big test for the commanders

and for Sam Howe. And honestly, he passed it. They didn't get the win, but they were right there. Another notch in his belt, not a win, but one where his teammates were like, we went to Seattle and went toe to toe with the Seahawks, and that guy didn't flinch, and he made some big throws. So I got to tip my cap to Sam Howell,

a guy that last week, one of your defensive alphas, like, we found our quarterback for the next, you know, few years or whatever. Whether that's true or not, Josh Harris probably has something to say, about that, but it feels good internally to go there and play these guys tough. Seattle, though, big win. Heartbreaking loss to the Seattle Seahawks.

Dude, I just pulled it up. I was going to read it. Heartbreaking loss to the Seattle Seahawks today. Defensively, we couldn't come up with the big play to stop Seattle during their last two drives. Irvin Magic Johnson. No way. Every game he's got a tweet. Come on the show, Magic.

Here's my goal. For the live show, can we get Magic Johnson? I would love it. If we can get Magic Johnson, this show goes to the next level. See what I can do. They're going to be like, who's Connor O'Rour? We got Dr. Fax here. Who's A.J. Hawke.

I got Kyle Long here. I think McAfee's great. But if we got Magic Johnson, look out, Pat. AJ Hawk. You can get all the guys you want on there. You get Lombardi on there, some great former coaches. But if we get Magic Johnson, we're going to have these games broke down. Because he knows what's happening.

Magic is definitely a Howie Long fan, for sure. For sure. Macon took a piss next to him at a basketball game once. I was kind of worried about what was said and what wasn't said, because you know how he is. But evidently it went well. I would imagine that Howie and Magic probably had some, there was a Venn diagram of athletes in Los Angeles.

No, he went to Lincoln. Intersection. He knew Magic Johnson. He knew Magic Johnson. Intersection, not sex. Yeah. He went to damn the Staples Center or whatever. It was the forum.

For him. Back when his boy Frank Borkowski played for the Lakers. Bro, I'm so upset that that show ended the way it did and they're not like... WinningCon? Yes. I haven't seen the whole thing. Oh, man. It's great.

And that's, oh, you didn't see it, but that's why I was geeking out. The actor that play Magic Johnson's father was at the event down in Durham that we went to. Yeah, okay. He was the actor from that show, the dad, Magic Johnson's dad. He was there. We were among the stars. Yeah. So I'm boomers.

was very, very excited to see him because I'm like, yo, I just watched the series. And he was just like a cool cat, kind of like, you don't want to run up on him. Like when he's chilling, and that's the mode he was in. So like I had the really, really. Fanboying on mushrooms, that's a tightrope. It is. It is. Oh, my God.

That's art. Winning time is art. Let me touch your face. So anyways, Cardinals Falcons, I'm not going to say much about this game other than because I got to admit this this is a game i haven't watched the all 22 yet on so maybe you can tell me in the comments what the fuck happened falcons i i know what happened down the stretch hynicki gets hurt we see desma ritter again that sneak okay i had the over and it was like just kick the field go i had at 41 they're they're down there fourth and one ritter does this like side sneak thing and falls on

his face he falls on his face now luckily props to him possible game-winning drive where he actually gets to the pylon without fumbling the ball. Screwed it up the previous two times he tried it. Okay, I don't want to make it too negative about Ritter. Because, you know, talk about narratives. If Kyler Murray, if he doesn't think it's double XP day, because I think he thought it was, he goes down the field, hasn't played football in a year, and this is the problem right now with the Falcons to me.

You're not good enough offensively Not to be really sound defensively And in a two-week span You give up a game-winning drive To a guy that's literally staying at the Holiday Inn Express Like just got in town hasn't unpacked his bags Goes down the field and beat you Then the very next week you give up a game-winning drive to a guy

Who hasn't played football in a calendar year That's bad Like that's bad ball And so for all the stuff you want to say about the quarterback position The offense The defense has to be better in these things situations. And for all the veteran pieces, they added, like, I know these guys are in the meeting room today being like, we cannot do this. You know, everybody knows this. And two weeks

in a row, they got their backs broken on game winning drives to guys that you would not expect would do that. I'm going to cape for Atlanta a little bit and just say, isn't it hard to mimic a guy like Kyloomer? You know, you know every team you might have a guy that can. Scout team? Yes. Like, like, that's what I'm saying. Like on scout team, like when you're getting ready. Because there's a guy that dresses like him. Yeah, like it's never the same. And like you, he,

he, he made like some of those plays where it's like mad and S and it's just like, you're trying to get this guy down and he reverses and he goes back 15 yards negative of, of the line of scrimmage,

but still finds a way to roll out, find an open guy, or rush for 10, 15 yards on really, he's running probably like 80 yards in the play. And you got no tape on him the whole thing. I get it. But like for the Cardinals, my question would be,

How many of these things do you plan on winning? Oh, is that another team with the undertow? Well, no, I'm just, no. I did put some, like, they were supposed to be tanking. I did put this long odds bet on them, like, to win less than two and a half games. That's not going to hit, but it wasn't,

it wasn't like a lot. Okay. But two and eight, okay, if Kyler's a quarterback, this team's proven that they can play with people. He can be the difference. They might win four games. Then what do you, I mean, like,

the draft is going to be, a thing. I mean, you're going to be, I don't know what the draft order is right now, but they're going to be creeping down that board if they win a couple of these games. And there's other teams like the Patriots that look like they're going in the opposite direction. So does the winner of the NFC South even matter at this point? Like it's going to be Saints, Falcons, or Bucks? Like, aren't they all just going to lose to Dallas at home? Okay. Yeah, it doesn't matter, right?

You know, it's like when the, oh, I hate to say this, but you weren't on the team. I don't think. When the Bears went to the Saints for the Nickelodeon game, you were just like, yeah, it's not gonna happen. When Mitch won the MVP. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the MVP. You know, it's one of these wildcard teams

that they could slide in, somebody from the NFC South could slide in, but they're not gonna win a game, maybe. I don't know. And you make a good point. It's like, we're gonna pay attention to this thing. They're not gonna be two teams in from this division if they're playing the way they're playing.

And the winner, it's like, it's like who doesn't, everybody's begging the other team to take a lead in this division. And nobody can take advantage of it. Cardinals win further solidifies Chicago's place in the draft order as well. No question. Go cards. On Kyler. On Kyler.

And then Tennessee, Tampa's the last one. Tampa just hanging around, man. Tampa's hanging around. We said coming in, whose matchups do you like outside better? I thought this might be a Tampa spot because of that. and Mike Evans turned out he did enough. And, you know, like Will Levis, we talked about, listen, he won, he beat the, he beat the Falcons, okay. But to have a full week where you know you're going to play a bunch of snaps and come into the game against the Steelers, I thought he played well there, couldn't come up with the win.

He's still searching for that first, like, hey, I'm the guy, I'm coming into the game, and I'm the head honcho. And I'm going to. Tough spot to play at him. Tough spot. Against that linebacker core, a lot of the looks get muddied up from what, you know, you talk about replicating what Kyler Murray does in practice

throughout the course of the week. It's tough to scout team to elite linebackers. It's tough to have guys read and react the way that these linebackers are going to do it. We've seen stuff on film, Nolan, and we say, watch the run through, or when he's here, he's going to get to there, but you can't replicate game speed.

He hasn't seen that much blitz. I mean, he hasn't seen that much. 6.8%. yesterday. 56% of the time. And that ain't normal blitz. That's real deal, holy field pressure.

That's like when Greg Williams used to get mad, he was like, fuck it. We had this one all-out blitz play. He was like, I'm mad. We're just going to run.

Cynch, kitchen sink. Yeah, Todd Bowles is throwing the kitchen sink at you. And so this is a good learning experience for Will Levis, the tail end of this season. There's always an implicit, implicit kind of like audition going on.

Oh, yeah. When you're not like a top five guy as a quarterback. I think they feel like they found their guy, but he's going to have to win some of these games. And on the road, like, the Titans haven't won in a while on the road. So this is a problem for this team.

Titans have low-key taking a huge step back. We kind of were onto that before the season. I don't think anybody expected Houston to be this good. But the AFC South... Hell no. The AFC South is just... It's upside down. Titans, you could bank on them having a high floor every season.

Houston is straight tipping right now. They are tipping. Tipping on foe foes. No, they're tipping on five and foe. Tipping on five and foes. Whatever they are. So not a lot to say about Tampa Bay. That's why the uglies.

Last game we'll talk about Indian New England. I love waking up in the morning and watching football over in Germany or London. It really is great. That's the one I didn't watch. It was during our show. Kyle?

I heard Mac Jones got benched. I saw Mac Jones get yelled at by Bill O'Brien. And that was it. When he threw that pick in the end zone, that was it. I mean, it was like... Bill was like, I'm sick of this shit. Where are you going? I'm sick of it.

Because they came out in the second half and, like, people want to get mad at Bill. Okay, like, you know, he might get canned if they lose this game. Well, I haven't heard anything yet. I think that's... They're not doing it middle of the season. I don't think so.

Especially for him. Not for him. You don't whack the dime. And Teddy Bruske, you went on NFL live and was like, you can't do that. I don't think he can't. But who cares? what Teddy Bruskey thinks.

I'm sure. I'm sure that a lot of fans, I think it's more who cares with Teddy Bruske knows. I don't think he's saying that without knowing that like the way things work up there. Now he could be wrong and you could get a victory lap

because they could fire him on Wednesday, but I don't think that's going to happen. Will they let him ride the duck boat one more time? That'd be sick. Just with nobody out in the street. Okay, let me set the scene. Plain lands from Europe. They go to the facility.

All the players' cars are on. The lights are on. The heats on for the players. And then they have a duck boat pulled up. And they're like, Bill. One more ride. This way. One more ride.

And Bill just looks at him. He's like, I understand. It's 3 a.m. You know, nobody's on the street. Takes his shirt off. Yeah. He's got a shirt off. Like, oh, it was you?

But, but here's what on my side. Great picks. They didn't lose that game because of Bill. They didn't lose that game because of Bill. They lost that game because of the quarterback. Okay. Like, you got nobody outside to throw to, which partially is Bill's fault, right? Like the personnel, we talked about that.

He can't be a GM at the next stop. But in the second half, they came out and they ran the fuck out of the football. Like, they got back to doing what they do, and Stevenson was going off, and then you just couldn't finish drives because of the quarterback. And so then you put Bailey Zappy in, and you get the fake spike, which, who knows what the fuck they were thinking there. What was the last time we see Matt? What was that?

Who was it? Peyton tried it with the Colts. There was somebody before him that did it, that it was like clean. It was so clean. Well, I don't hate the idea, but then don't force the ball over the middle of the field. You know, just burn it over somebody's head out of bounds. And so... They asked him about it, and he said, I don't...

I can't say what I want to say. But what does that mean? So here's what I think it means. I think you wanted to say it was fucking stupid. Yeah, I don't think he... Or maybe somebody ran the wrong route. I don't think, yeah, I mean... But he didn't like the idea.

He didn't like the idea. And I... Could have taken a book. And listen. It probably wouldn't a game they were going to win in that scenario. Marino. But I do think it's got to be the last we see of Mac. I mean, I've done this before.

I don't think Zappi is much better. But like, this is something for Bill where I think Bill last year wanted to move on from Mac and the people upstairs like Robert and the rest of the organization was like, you know, no, we got to give him a chance. I don't know if I had that backwards, but I think Bill has been wanting to make this Zappi move. and they've made the move. I think you've got to roll with him the rest of the season. I've got to give him the Adam shine.

Mac Jones. Bag it, loser. Bag it loser. Now, I don't want to be all mean to Mac Jones. But that's what they say in Boston, right? Yeah, bag, it losing. Lousa. Chip them off to Boston.

Drop kick Murphy's. Drop kick Mac Jones into the fucking, I don't know. But anyways. If his last name was Mick Jones, they would love him. The body is, Mick Jones. David, Mick Jones. way he can make that joke but the bottom line is um yeah come get me it can't be yeah right it can't be uh it can't be mac jones the rest of the way and i and i don't think bill was the reason they lost

that game you can say what you want about bill i'm just going to say this every time we talk about the pats if he wants to keep coaching somebody should hire him to keep coaching because i think you can still coach the bear it's just such a fucked up situation the bears the giants oh it could get so much uglier before it gets pretty i know i know you got to have a strong gym And he is not one right now. So let's get to our Miller Light moments. Love these. But before we get there, I want to read an ad.

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When one of those guys... When one of those guys from the Power Slap competition wins the contest now that Chris said that. Oh, that's not real. Okay. That thing's not real. You don't want to do that. I will play.

If I survive the opening round, if you get the kickoff, then I survive. Everybody's a trope. Everybody's good to hide. I love that competition, though. The one guy's like, open your eyes, John.

Open your eyes! Bang! Dog, there's like, these guys are out there getting CTE for nothing. And the two guys catch them? The paychecks can't be great. The two guys catch them? Yeah, they got like,

get up guys, not get back guys. it's a fucked up sport. It's going to last like three years. Somebody's going to die and they're going to be like, we have to have a conversation. Commercial. You think?

I mean, it's, I don't know. You think the sport's a good sport? No, no, no, no, no. That someone would, like, get that much hurt than like something like an MMA fight. I don't know. If we have somebody to studio and they slap Kyle first and he survived, I think there will be a fatality.

So, anyway. I might bend the rules on the game. Let's get to Mill of Light moments. I always start with Worst Flight. For me, it's the Jets. I talked about last night, like a possible mutiny. You play a Sunday night game in Vegas. Then you got to get on a plane to go back to New York.

I think they might have just landed. I mean, that's how it feels to me, knowing how that goes. And the way that room is probably divided right now, it's hard to keep that team together. I think that's a terrible flight. Just an awful flight. Worst flight's got to be the Patriots, right? I mean, I didn't watch their game,

but it's what I've heard about. Patriots, worst flight coming back from Europe? Jack Jones waved. Jack Jones waved. Wow. Yeah, not like, hi, how are you doing? Like, see you later. He didn't wait.

It says it in Facebook messaging. No, uh-uh. And for best flight, I'll go Chase Young and the 49ers. Yeah, that's a long one, though, Kyle. I don't like taking long-ass flights like that. Yeah, but you're going back west, baby. How about Houston? You get on that plane?

That's huge. Like, this is one of those memories for a team. I've been on teams that we're trying to get over the hump. When you feel like you're over the hump for the first time, it's like a drug. Like, you get on the plane. And you're so together, you're like, where are we going next? Fly us anywhere. I'll take this team and beat anybody.

And I feel like they had to have that feeling getting on the plane yesterday. And not a long flight, Cincinnati, Houston. Longer you think Houston's way down there, but not the worst flight. It's like Central America. Yeah, it's almost like that. It's almost on the Yucatan. Yes. Okay, so I'm going to give an alternate worst flight to the gal who had to sit next to me on the plane ride home from New York yesterday.

I fell asleep when we were still like on the, you know, in the. Carmack? The jetway. Yeah. Like we just boarded and I passed out and I woke up during takeoff to me snoring. Oh, no. So I imagine. Oh, no.

Not as bad as the lady. I'll give a worse flight to piggyback off of y'all. When I was in Tanzania last year, I was on my way back. And I took like a big edible. I think I told you this. And didn't realize I probably lost like 20 pounds on that hike, empty stomach. And I was like Mr. Crabs in first class on the way home. And we're going over the Atlantic Ocean.

I'm freaking out. start drinking and I lay down I got like half a glass of scotch got this European looking lady next to me real like like stiff you're like she doesn't like me you can tell I woke up and startled and knocked my scotch over it spilled all over this lady dude and I had to wait her I had to wake her up in the middle of the night and be like spill my scotch on you I had to I had to decide whether you were in international waters that's not a crime no you're right she he was going to wake up and get her bags and be like, why do I smell like fucking Johnny Walker? And you're just giving it like this.

It was that dumb American next to me. So, yeah, I'll go, uh, Beville Conway. Yeah, we got Beville Conway. Go ahead. What you got? I got Travis Kelsey standing side stage in Argentina, not only standing next to Taylor Swift's dad during the remixed rendition of karma. Karma.

This is love. This is real. I haven't talked about it because I didn't know what the deal was with. it if this was a media play or if it's real organic and it's the buy week and it's a 16-hour flight and you're going to Argentina to go see your girlfriend perform she's the biggest star in the in the universe you're one of the best players to ever do it and you're down there hanging out so my bevel conway is Travis Kelsey side stage on a bi-week in Argentina watching his girlfriend Taylor Swift perform I think it's beautiful I think it's the real deal it melts me

my heart. And I haven't talked about it, but I'm talking about it today. It's a lot easier to consume now that we've gotten over the initial rush of everything being Taylor Swift. But I think there's love there, Kyle. And I would say there were a couple games here that were beautiful to look at. New York and the Raiders, because you know, I love a rock fight, but those old school colors like that green and that black and the silver, it just all, it was perfect. Detroit and L.A. Yep. Looked really good. You know, I mean, it did look a lot better than the... Easy on the eyes.

Than the lions in those fucking cinder block uniforms. And then the other one that I'd say... Because we had Packer Steelers yesterday. Yep, that looks good. San Francisco and the Jags looked really cool to me. It was a terrible ballgame, but those San Francisco road whites are gorgeous, especially when it's like overcast or it's at night

and like the color... Contrast. Contrast. You know, the Jags and them. What's next? How about a Hollow Man? Yeah, go ahead. I was going to give a Bevel to your dad and the Fox crew. Their setup this past weekend was pretty, pretty awesome.

At the Air Force Academy, Colorado Springs, their Veterans Day show. Shout out to Fox NFL Sunday. It was a pretty, pretty nice backdrop. Hollow Man, I think I want to give it to, we'll try this admin, Kyle. Okay. DoorDash, Desmond Ritter. He's got a big order. He's like, if you don't fucking deliver these wings,

everybody's gonna go grubhub. He gets the wings, he's running up to the door, and he just falls on his face on fourth and one. Okay, I think Desmer Ritter is the hollow man yesterday. To come in the game and just trip and fall. Now, I could easily pick out Trevor Lawrence for not playing well. I could pick out Tyler Boyd. Who had a good game.

But I'll give it to the whole group. I don't think there was any one guy that stood out yesterday as being the, but maybe DoorDash Desmer Ritter. Three stars, all my wings were on the fucking front porch. Hollow Man, second half, Baltimore Ravens, with a lead. How about the Ravens with a lead? Yeah, Ravens with a lead. And that's three games now that the Ravens have lost

when they had a lead and they couldn't put teams away, whether it's the Colts, the Steelers, or the, and the problem is these are all AFC teams. They're all teams that can, well, the Steelers couldn't run the ball, but they're physical teams, and they're teams that you've got to see teams like that done stretch. The Ravens have only trailed for 28 minutes all season, which is third all time in history.

But they've lost those three games. They've lost three. Every other team on the list is 10 and 0. Not good. And in that game, the Browns trailed for 59 minutes and 20 seconds to that point. And the other teams on that list, the 84 Dolphins, the 2002 New England Patriots,

or 2007 New England Patriots, the 98 Broncos, the 90 Giants, these are historically good teams. All the teams that are on the list with the Ravens were 10 and 0 at this point. So first 10 games of the season, least time trailing. Ravens are on that list, but they're 7 and 3. Okay, what's next? SCL Memorial Award.

Sheldon Rankin's. I got people calling me, you know, at my workplace saying, hey, we got to break down Chase Young. No, I want to break down Sheldon Rankins. Yep. Nobody's going to talk about Sheldon Rankins because it's like the meme with the guy and the girl and they're walking and the guy's checking somebody else out. That's me with Sheldon. Rankins.

CJ Shrouds over here. Nah, I wanted this three technique, he was dominant. So I know some people have heard about the performance he had yesterday, but I want to shout him out another time because that was an ass kicking he gave those guys, and John Grenard and the guys up and down that line.

And I'll go with another Houston Texan. I'll go with Noah Brown. Seven receptions on eight targets for 172 yards, no tuds, but you want to talk about the middle 80 of the field? That guy dominated it all day. And then when they needed it, they got Tank Dell the ball

and he extended for a touchdown. Texans are fun. STL Memorial Noah Brown. By the way, the Tank Dell hit, Dax Hill put on Tank Dell. On the touchdown? No, over the middle, earlier in the game. Buddy, I thought he was dead. I mean, that kid, to get up off the mat and keep making big plays like that,

that team's got something to him. Including a huge tackle, maybe a game saving tackle. No question. Yeah, no question. How about best seat? Best seat for me. You know, probably the whole Fox crew when Gronk, basically what happened this week is they went out to the Air Force Academy. They met all these veterans, and the veterans are like, you can't keep doing these USAA commercials, Gronk, and say, you know, like, when do I get a USAA cart?

Well, you actually have to be in the military. And so we're going to make you feel like you're in the military for a second. We're going to drop you out of this plane from like 30,000 feet up. I don't know where you skydived from, probably more like 10. but he kind of shit his pants. You could tell. Like he wasn't ready to go. And from what I heard, the guy had to be like,

Gronk, we're going. And then they jumped out of that motherfucker and all the Fox guys got to watch Gronk. They were like, Gronk's going to be landing right here. Oh, my God. Also, how sure that they are that they're good at that, that they weren't going to get like a terminal velocity Gronk hitting the ground

and like a death on live TV. You know, like that's how good the Air Force guys are. at jumping out of an airplane that they were like, this isn't going to go wrong. Let's have 50 million people watch this thing live. Yeah, dad ziplined too. Did he?

Dad got the zipline. I was talking to him. He was like, yeah, it was fun. I told Strehend, just look at the mountains. Don't look down. What would it take, Chris, to get you to jump out of the air one? My kids graduate in college.

You would have to show me a hippo using the parachute that I'm using. Drop, pop, pop, puff, I think good. I think you're thinking of Operation Dumbobro. I mean, but I want a hippo. You just want any pachyderm.

I need to see a pack of a dame. Yeah, which is spelled funny. Small ears. So anyways, I think drunk jumping out of an airplane. I used to want to do it. But then when your kids, like now you're a dad, like you're like, can you imagine if somebody was like, hey, where's your dad?

Oh, he died skydiving for no reason. So unless I'm like Gronk and I'm at the Air Force Academy and they do this, I don't think I'm going to do it. Hand gliding. Flying the wall, we have best seat. I got to go best seat. Yeah, go ahead. The DeVito family.

Yeah, DeVito family. Simple as that. Oh, best seat in the house. Me, when I figured out that this is a seatbelt strap that these guys are doing. They didn't know that. Kyle, I thought they were putting a sword in a fucking sheath or something. I'm thinking medieval times. So earlier this year, George Kittle, there was a ball thrown to George Kittle.

It sailed wide. first one to do it? No, he's not the first one to do it. Oh. So the DBs, when they strap somebody up, you're strapped in. So George Kittle broke up a bad Brock Purdy Pass early in the year. He played DB, and then he did the celebration, which I thought was really cool. I felt like the biggest middle-aged dad where I was like, yeah, put that sword away.

And Nate's like, ah, it's a seatbelt. Put that sword away. My God, Tiberius Ward. He loves sword-fighting. The guy loves Puss and Boots. and fucking Prince's Brides and the fucking, you know, I don't know. Game of Thrones. But no, he's just

into the seatbelt strapping thing. I wasn't the only one on the set that thought it was like a sword or something. Hey, funny comment from the chat here. Who do you think wins? Eugenics, Frank Thomas or Terminal Velocity Gronk? Dude, I think terminal velocity grok is a tough tough SOB. Yeah, tough SOB.

Eugenics, not eugenics. Newgenics can only do so much. See, I made the same mistake you've made. Newgenics can only do so much. much terminal velocity grok i saw frank thomas on social the other day i'm gonna keep it to myself here i laugh so hard frank thomas makes me laugh he does he bellichick needs to get a nugenics yo i'd be like frank thomas and bill bellichick might be on it yeah no that's what i mean i mean he needs a deal he needs a deal because of what he did he looks like walking out on that porch who would be the third party like if they're going to dinner it's bill it's frank it's new genics frank thomas

ring cam Bill Belichick and inoperable motorcycle motorcycle motorcycle coach maybe yeah the guy from Louisville with the neck brace

yeah Bobby Petrino Bobby Petrino I was just out for a Sunday drive then they find out he's like he's got a blonde on the back and he ate all the road raft he ate all the road raft

he's got teeth marks in the back of his head I did an ad man I did an ad one time for Bobby Petrino for helmets, you know? Like, you know, because look at Bobby Petrino's face, man. He looks like Freddie Kruger. Stop. And he was just out for a joy ride, dude. Pizza face Patrino.

He's just thinking where there's it. One time Al Groh got decked in the middle third. You know, Coach Groh used to just try. He used to stand back there in the middle third and watch every player. He used to do this because he could download every player. Set Hut. And he goes, Set Hut.

And he go. Scan the field. know everything and then he'd be like he'd know exactly who got beat everything well he was scanning the field and they threw the ball deep they ran this motherfucker over the front of his head hit the field turf and went like this like all the way to the back and he's so tough he just stayed in he had like bobby petrino road rash we come in the next team meeting we're like what's he gonna do with his head is he's gonna wear a hat because that's not the type of guy he is he wants to show you he just rubbed a bunch of Vaseline on that shit and he was just a shiny

Bobby Petrino's situation. But obviously he was just coaching ball. Bobby was out doing sinning. All right. What else do we got here? Fly on the wall. Fly on the wall. I got one.

I thought I just gave that out. Fly on the wall was me when I realized that it wasn't the seatbelt. Yeah, I didn't get to do fly on the wall. Yeah, go ahead. So my fly on the wall, what you alluded to earlier was the Texans fan. I don't know if he was a Texas.

The Florida man who bet on the Texans and he won five point. $5 million on the parlay that we talked about earlier with Singletary touchdown, Singletary over, over on the points, and... Moneyline. Moneyline, Texans. That guy got the script. I don't think human beings have evolved to receive that much dopamine as that guy probably

like... Like, cavemen never felt something like that, dude. To win a five... I guess killing like a big mastodon or something. It feels like winning a parlay for $5.5 million. dollars you're gonna eat imagine the buildup chasing a wild animal like that.

I think parleyes seem a lot more fun. Really? Yeah, because there's a chance. You can't eat a parley. You can't eat a parley but parley can't kill you. Think about that. Fuck your life up.

Yeah. They ain't thinking of it. Fly on the wall for me is in the car with Aaron Rogers and Devante Alex. Yo, pass the duchy to the left. Air Rogers

landing in Vegas and hitting his old teammate up, I just wonder what they did. And Vegas has dope. They went to Med-Man. Marijuana. No, they probably went to Planet 13. Somebody went for that. Planet 13's crazy.

Worst weed person trap you can actually go into if you're in Vegas. Their weed is so expensive. Yeah. And it's more just going in there and hearing. This is the biggest dispensary in the world. And you just get my money. I have thoughts on this. Okay, I'm going to change my fly on the world.

wall or I'm gonna change my yeah I'm gonna give another fly on the wall it's Antonio Pierce when he realizes that his best player is hanging out with the number one instructor from the opposing team the night before the game I think he trust Devante enough to not give him anything he's an ex player you he's an ex player I think a coach might be pissed about that yeah but like I'd also be like go hang out with your buddy but none of that fuck shit yeah well one time you and I hung out the night four game with a came by and saw you at the hotel and Josh mccown and stuff and then

the next day we were trying to kill Josh McCau. That's just the way it is. But how about this? How about Aaron Rogers was giving Devante Adams tips so that he'll look good in the game? Because the more the Jets tank, the more Aaron Rogers looks great.

Everyone can't wait until he gets back. That's a really good theory. That's a really good theory. You would love that theory. No, I'm just saying it to gas him up. Okay, okay. Yeah. I was like, you would hit your fucking rope to that one.

Yeah. You know what they probably did? They probably went for a jog. Because I'm sure Roger's doing that too in his spare time. Game ball. Game ball. Game ball. It's C.J. Straub. C.J. Straub. C.J. Strowd. Dan Campbell. C.J. Stroud. David David Montgomery, guys like that. Pachronaut. Josh Dobbs. There was yesterday as a whole, game ball, the NFL. Because yesterday I felt like football really started, you know. We're around Thanksgiving, where Bill used to say that's where football really starts.

Well, I think for the Patriots. The turduckets coming. Like, the team starts separating. You start to see who's good, who's not great. You start seeing these cold weather games. You can see people's breath. Five field goal kicks to win the game yesterday. NFL record.

Just some great football games, ma'am. This league. This league, man. It's why it's king. What we got? Let's hear Fax's viral moment of the week. My viral moment of the week goes... I haven't seen this, by the way.

It goes to a lot of league of soccer player. He's getting interviewed. And in the background in his locker, he has a visible dirty dukey stain in his underwear. And I had put in the group chat, this is the trickle down of not using a washcloth. So here's my question, because I don't use a washcloth,

and I've never had that happen. So obviously that happens to you when you don't use a washcloth. No, it's not that. It's just, it's just common sense. I have a theory. It's just common sense, bro. If Nate doesn't,

vigorously scrub his ass with a lufa, he poops his pants. I know what the problem is. And so if you have that problem, you should definitely, you should do that lufa enema every time you get in the shower. Lufanima. Luf enema. Ad men. They basically told on himself, said,

when I don't wash my ass, I have shit stained. I'd never said that. Well, I never said that. In a way you did. I say people who don't use washcloths, it is very, it's almost very hard to efficiently clean your ass. And you guys keep saying that you don't use it. Unless you're willing to really rub some dirt on it, kid.

Unless you're willing to use that bar of soap like a lufa. And that's the key. You might lose it. Okay? He might have just had to shit himself during the game. Yeah, he might just shit himself. Those guys have to run nonstop. They don't get any like.

Exactly. That's my bad. He put it up there like a flag. Yeah. Like, yeah, I had some GI issues today, too. That's the classic like, hey, it wasn't all my fault. You see, I shit my pants today. Bad Shart.

Where's he from, Pookistan? I'm Pookistan. That's good. I'm trying to think of another country. Yeah, it's tough. Turkey? Turkey? Okay.

Skatdenavia. Uh-huh. That's good. I can't think of it anymore. Me either. Those were good, though. Okay. Let's hear from our friends at Little Caesar.

And into a pizza ad after we talked about Bobby Petrino's face and that guy's shit in his pants. Los Angeles? Yeah. Okay. All right. You're good at this. I like it this game. Okay.

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Order your little Caesars and enjoy during the game. Poohy York is too easy. Yeah, it's too easy. It's too easy. I think we're leaving at that. Yeah, we're going to keep the, you guys can all leave. The show's over, but we're going to spend the last 30 seconds. Previewing the Monday night football game and thinking in countries

that you can make double entendons with shit words. Leave some in the chat if you have so. For real. Broncos at the bills. Bills are favored by seven. Kyle, take this one. Broncos and bills. Look, this is a real trap game when I think about the bills and the Broncos.

You saw Patrick Mahomes and this Chiefs team, albeit not at full power. Puttah. Two weeks ago, five turnover, zero touchdowns. Josh Allen, he's got a tendency to turn the football over. Broncos are an opportunistic defense with guys that have showcased themselves as really, really good players getting the football for Coach Peyton. And you know they want nothing more than go there and spoil some of the Bill's chances. This should be fun.

Kyle, if you go to Pusbeckistan, you can visit the Aspian Sea and the anal sea. That's good. So you're using a map. I'm just going raw dog. I know, Kyle, but I got all this shit on my brain right now. Okay, Bill's and Broncos, this seems like a classic backdoor cover situation for the Broncos. I think the total, if I had to bet one would probably be the under. 38 and a half.

I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be. I don't like getting out over my skis because then they put the social out and people are like, oh, what a dumb play. I don't even know if I'm going to play this game. Chances are I will. And if I had to, I'd probably go Broncos, catching as many points as possible or the under. I'm going Josh Allen anytime interception.

Okay. Let's keep it going. That sounds about right. Okay. So like, subscribe, tell all your friends, we will be turdmenistan. We will be back next week at 1 o'clock for more of this. Poo-Land, Poland. It's almost right there, Kyle.

We're going to get a whole list together. The chat dropped a couple of years. Shitsburg and Shat Lake City. Chartleague City. Shitsam-A-Dy, I was going to say. All right, well. Shits-Shi-M-A-I. Puba.

They opened Puba back up. You can go down there and visit. Anyways, you guys take care. Thanks for coming. See all next week. One o'clock. Tell your friends. Yep.

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