Green Light with Chris Long - Torrey Smith! Talks Cam Newton Back To Carolina. Stanford Steve & James Koh On NFL WK10 Gambling & Fantasy Football.

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

(3:18) - Chris on Odell Signing with Rams and Rams' Playoff Outlook. (12:15) - Hello, Layup Line and Best Division 2 College Football Rivalry Ever. (20:36) - Torrey Smith on Cam Newton Heading Back to the Carolina Panthers, Cam's Immediate Impact, Outlook for Carolina's Receivers and Cam's Future. (32:19) - Stanford Steve on College Football Week 11, Georgia at Tennessee, Washington State at Oregon, Notre Dame at UVA, Uncle Steve is Coming to Town and NFL Week 10 Gambling Picks. (1:21:40) Macon Applies for Weekend Hangout Pass. (1:26:55) - James Koh on NFL Week 10 Fantasy Football Outlook, Cordarrelle Patterson, Mike Gesicki and Two Headed Monster Draft with Kickers. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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get a fucking break on Thursday night what happened last time no no I'm not crying because I'll I can I can hang upside down in the Waffle House for 24 hours It's easy. There were two teams, and it turned out to be 45 to 30, and I needed it to be 15 or higher. If the Jets scored a touchdown at the end. Yes, they would have covered too. It would have covered for me. It would have been a nightmare.

I would have covered for Jets fans, and there was a tip ball, like the seven-yard line. You're telling me, Josh Johnson goes 95 yards. Not only that, like Josh Johnson's in the football game. Josh Jackson, Josh Johnson, the entire football game. He's in the entire football game, and I still almost beat you, but I can't. But this week I am, I'm going Ravens. Say at the same time, you ready? Three.

Well, how do you know I'm going Ravens? I might be saying dolphins first. Okay, you're... I'm going Ravens. Okay. On three. Three, two, one. 31, 16.

30 to 20. Okay, so I'm 3116. 30 to 20. 30 to 20. Okay, don't love it. Yeah, well, I would feel good about this one. I'm 12 or less on the Ravens. You're 13 or more on the Ravens.

I know you'd be just. just like two and a half points off the line. Oh, look at you. You know what I had written down? 30 to 17 and then I changed it. Well, what coulda, should have. So we'll see what happens, man. So it's 745 here at the flavor station.

I just got done wrapping doing the Amazon show. I do every Thursday night. For Thursday night football, we do a show on Amazon, Daniel, Jeremiah, K. Adams, Andrew Hawkins, myself. And so I'm in here late. So I have an opportunity to actually comment on the Adele Beckham signing day news.

We've been speculating on this thing for like 12 days, so I'm glad it came to an end. I thought it was going to be one of these stories that carried over like five pods into this saga, and I'd have to talk about it every day and worry about, hey, if I talk about it today in a certain tense and he signs after I do the podcast like what happened today what the fuck do do I do it's over we're good odell's an L.A guy and to be honest how do we not see this coming like I feel like an idiot taking all these sources at face value and looking at that last three

teams and you know saying and they've been going back and forth you had you know the the Packers the chiefs and you had the the Saints and this is of course all after O'Dell did this big Tinder profile thing with, you know, basically I'd like to join the 72 dolphins or the Showtime Lakers, and I want an offensive line that can block for me. I want a receiving core that's awesome, but they only target me. I want a Hall of Fame quarterback and a cerebral head coach. And the second and last thing that he kind of laid out, or the sources laid out, didn't square with New Orleans being in the conversation.

So I did a Trevor Simeon tweet, and I read, regret that because it really went viral. If Trevor Simeon saw it, I'm sorry. It's just that like out of those three finalists, there were two dudes that are going to Canton and Trevor Simeon. And, you know, I say that to say, listen, if it was down to me, Bruce Smith and Julius Peppers, I'm probably going to be on the ass end of a Josiah Johnson type tweet. And so if you saw the tweet, it was Ed Bassmaster being solicited or, you know, for a Ford

Pinto by a used car salesman. and Sean Payton was the used car salesman and Pinto was Trevor Simeon. I didn't mean any disrespect. To me, it was always cloudy what Odell was looking for because we were kind of like, ah, we accepted a face value. This guy was looking to win at all costs.

Not the case, and that's okay, and that doesn't make him a bad guy, and that doesn't mean that he was the problem in Cleveland as a result of putting a team like New Orleans in his top three. But it turned out that L.A. was hovering all along. I thought it would be some combination of the two factors, winning and getting his. Because if you don't do the latter, it's going to be hard to make your money and the next cycle here. So he's got the rest of this season to try to do both.

And I think for him, this feels like an L.A. thing and a winning thing. You know, I think he's O'Dell Beckham, Jr., dude, to be that great and do what he's done in the NFL, you have to believe you're going to get the targets no matter where you go. You're not always going to hear it explicitly and maybe that's what he didn't hear in Green Bay. Maybe the money didn't speak to him but L.A. made their move and L.A. is so all in on winning, it's ridiculous.

L.A., whether you like it or not, as a St. Louis Ram, I don't love this thing playing out exactly the way that Rams fans dreaded it. There's a lot of football left if you're rooting against the Rams. And I'm not.

But I'm just saying, like, you had to know Stan Cronky when he had his site set on L.A., this was what he envisioned, going all in on winning a Super Bowl and hosting it the same year. I mean, this is some, like, evil billionaire stuff. I mean, you have to admit, no matter how you feel about the situation, they're going all in on winning. And really, the Von Miller move moves the needle more from me. When I woke up this morning, people were talking about ring chasing and Odell Beckham. because of his final choices,

what it came down to and then subsequently sign it with the Rams. People make the mistake of thinking it's like LeBron recruiting Anthony Davis in the NBA or something or the big three down in Miami. It's not, dude. It's the NFL. It's really hard to pick winners. I just got lucky at the end of my career. I woke up this morning.

The Rams were plus 800 to win the Super Bowl. Odell signed. I just looked, there's still plus 800. I don't know if that takes a day to process, but I don't think he changes really their odds of winning the Super Bowl in a big way. I think Von Miller moves the needle a little bit more. I still think he's got it.

I just think it's really hard to find your targets in a room full of those guys. And if you're Van Jefferson, you're just like, fuck it. I'm just going to get on the 405 and keep driving. And that sucks, and I get that. But they have playmakers everywhere. Odell has not seen the ball in a really dynamic offense like this. I mean, in Cleveland, great offense.

He waited through New York, kind of a vanilla scheme. In Cleveland, it was tantalizing. It was like everybody got theirs, but him. Now he's there with McVeigh, and I think the stakes are really high to get him the targets he wants. I know that McVeigh's got to worry about winning first, but you made this move. Odell's waited his entire life to be able to choose his team.

Well, he's waited since LSU, and you're a kid when you commit to a school. I'm sure he doesn't regret that. Who regrets going to LSU? But this is his first chance as an adult to play the field. And so it's been a long two years for him. It's been a long week. He's going to expect the ball. So what this tells me is that McVeigh, in a very short time,

has fallen in love with Matt Stafford and trusts him wholeheartedly in managing these relationships in that wide receiver room. And I didn't think there was any room for anybody with Cooper Cup, but evidently there is and we'll see. He's going to get the ball in a lot of interesting ways. One really interesting piece that I read before I get out of here

and you can listen to the rest of the podcast that we taped earlier today is the comments from John Johnson. John Johnson was in L.A. You remember him? John Johnson III. He spent the past four seasons with Rams is from an ESPN article

was on a Zoom call with Cleveland reporters when the news of Beckham's signing broke. Johnson wondered how OBJ will fit. in LA. The quote follows. They had a good thing going, like a complete offense Johnson said, I don't know. I just feel like from being in L.A., I know for a fact that the offense runs through Cooper Cup, even in the run game, the past game, the screen game, it kind of runs through Cooper Cup. So obviously, O'Dell's a big name and he's going to want attention as well. It will be interesting. And I think what he's saying is like, I really like O'Dell, because everything I've

heard other than the guy who used some like six syllable word to do. describe he was like a malcontent or something like who the fuck uses that word i think that's a fake person i think everybody in in cleveland but baker really got along with him for the most part i'm sure there's people that didn't but generally people liked him um i think what this guy's saying is that a football player's take on it not the media not somebody on twitter a football player who lives and watches film of the second level played on the team that odell's headed to and plays currently on the team that he's coming from express a little trepidation

as far as getting the ball to all the playmakers so don't shoot the messenger I don't want to rain on the parade number one I think Von Miller is going to move the needle a little bit more number two I think it's going to be really challenging to distribute the ball to all those guys and that Sean McVeigh really really

trusts and respects Matt Stafford he said okay you got this keep them happy but another thing is the Rams don't have any cap room so you talk about this is going to be a quick stop in L.A. I mean, either that or he's promising, you know, something that I can't see coming yet. I mean, like, they got to pay a few free agents next year.

They're basically in the red. So I don't know what happens next year and O'Dell is sure taking a risk as far as can I maximize my earning potential. at 30 years old because that'll be the last time he can really do that in a big way. Crossroads here for him. It's a calculated risk

because they got a shot to win it all. But he's not ring chasing. All right, well, I'm glad that's over and we can move on to like everything else, including like Cam Newton. That's going to come up in the podcast. So take it from here. Archadelphia, Arkansas.

Hello. Arcadelphia. It's fucking not, Taylor. Okay, that's, That's good. That's good. Taylor thinks it's Arcdelphia. Macon thinks it's fucking not. Yeah, it's Arkadelphia. This is, it's good.

You know what? It's okay that you guys are arguing over this because it's a stupid name for a city. It's like you just tried to cross a state with a city and roll with it. Archadelphia is a stupid name? Yeah, well, it's easy to remember. I think it seems like cut and pasted together. Where are you on Texarkana? Cool than Arcdelfia. But still, I mean, no, Texarkana is cool.

They actually worked it out because Texarkana sounds like a dinosaur or something to me. It's incomprehensible how they came up with that. Archadelphia is the home of maybe Ocita Baptist, maybe Henderson State. A little bit divided by an interstate, and there's two schools on both sides of the interstate. They're like 0.4 miles apart, and they participate in the world's greatest college. football rivalry it's a division two rivalry so you won't hear about it on uh game day but maybe you should dude the battle of the ravine they uh they steal homecoming queens yeah dude they literally they drop what do they drop what do they drop from planes where they dropped of marshmallows

that were like dyed in red yeah exactly they've rented an airplane and dumped thousands of marshmallows on o'tuda baptist campus covered in red but but guys we're bearing the lead here. I like how you just skipped over the kidnapping. Dude, they kidnapped a homecoming queen as part of like the, here, it's just what we do in the battle of the ravine. And then there was a missing person's report.

Like this was, people weren't in on it. Yeah, that prank ended up actually suspending the rivalry for about 12 years. Yeah, 14 years. Yeah. So, yeah, like over there, they're just like they're going too far with the pranks. Yeah, check it out. I'm sure I'll probably Google to see who won in a week.

I'd like to get a little action on it. You got problems, man. I got problems. Yeah, you got problems. We'll talk about it. Hey, layup line today. Couldn't think of anything. There's a lot going on in this show today.

So I just did the manual scroll on my phone, which means how would you describe that? A little Spotify roulette. Yeah, Spotify roulette, which is dumb because you have shuffle. But I decided to do it that way, and it's Sister Nancy. It ain't no stopping. Oh, no, Sister Nancy. Okay. And you know what, that's a good one.

Sister Nancy always puts me in a good mood. And we've got a lot of good stuff to talk about today. I just did it. I got to build me up buttercup. Not the one you think, though, by the Boston College Marching Band. That was my Spotify roulette. Well, I got a friend who I caught tweeting emotional today. His name is Tori Smith.

He was indignant about Cam Newton having to take a meeting before he signed with Carolina, especially the fact that they just signed Matt Barkley's side on scene. You know exactly who Matt Barkley is. And like signing Cam Newton in Charlotte is not an everyday waiver wire thing. Okay. Like this is a decision that Matt Rule will live with, that Pepper will live with, that the GM there will live with. It weighs more. It's Cam Newton.

It's Charlotte. So if they're coming about a decision carefully, great. and we just learned actually. Settle down, Tori. And the time it took to talk to you, your boy's been signed. Yeah, Cam Newton just signed with the Panthers. And I think this is awesome.

This feels like NFL Christmas right now. Cam is four and a half fully guaranteed plus incentives. Yeah, Cam's four and a half guaranteed plus incentives. This is a move that makes sense to me. We called Tori Smith. We offered him a chance to be heard on the podcast. And he, in the GM, by the way, is Scott Fitterer. in Charlotte.

We called Tori Smith. We barely know him. We called Tori Smith because he wanted to come on the podcast and so we're going to talk to Tori in a second. Even though we didn't know at the time when we talked to Tori that Cam was signing, there was a lot you can glean out of this conversation

from a guy that played a lot of football with Cam Newton. Cam is 959 pass yards and 194 rush yards away from becoming the first player in NFL history with 30,000 pass yards and 5,000 rush yards for one single team. Oh, single team. That guy's incredible, man.

900 pass yards, so six weeks? Oh, you're making a joke. A little shade, a little shade. A little bit of shade. You're such an asshole, dude. Oh, I'm rooting for Cam. You know, I nearly added his running back to a fantasy team, but that's for later.

Listen, I don't think anybody expects Cam to be the same Cam, and I don't think anybody expects Cam to be a top 10 quarterback right now in the NFL. I think people expect an upgrade over Sam Darnold, and that's it. And I think Matt Rules already said what he thinks about this team by the signings and trades and everything he's tried to do to win now. So like follow through on that. Now what we don't know, 1254 p.m. East Coast Thursday, does Cam start against the Cardinals?

if you're Matt Rule. Fuck it. We're just running QB Power, dude. We're running QB Power, mixing a jump pass, and throw some in-breakers, man. Like, let him warm up and just go out there and play.

I bet Cam wants to go out there and play. I'm sure he does. I do worry about, like, the time between, you know, contact for him. You know what I mean? It's like,

it's a weird thing to come off. I don't know what he's been doing to train. You got vaccinated? You got vaccinated. So, you know, like whatever you think about that. Hey, Aaron Rogers, cancel culture came for him, white van, scooped him up, scooped him up, got him,

canceled him, State Farm said they're standing by him. Like a good neighbor. Yeah, and he got fined like a quarter of a suplex on an average quarterback in the NFL. Like if I so much as landed on like, Matt Castle.

I could suplex Matt Castle in two, 2011, dude, and I'd be fine four times as much. And I'm not sitting here saying Aaron should have been fine more. I don't give a fuck, dude. I think like it is what it is. He lied. He made a mistake. And it's up to y'all if you forgive him or not.

But the cancel culture thing, it's like, man, I told you all. It's not real. Not real. You could wear high white socks and be fine that much. Yeah, no doubt. You could have swag and get fine. Like, having swag is akin to what we're talking about here. Well, I'm very disappointed.

I survive cancellation. Very disappointed in Aaron until he covers three and a half points on Sunday. They are going to cover too. We'll talk about that with Stanford, Steve. And your gambling addiction, but let's talk to Tori first. Steve's coming to town and James Coe coming up. James Coe on the caboose here. Torrey Smith right now.

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I caught Tori Smith on Twitter being emotional, and I told him he was being emotional. We talk about Cam Newton, a guy who has proven over the course of his career that he can play. Is he the same Cam Newton or has he been the same Cam Newton? that we've known and loved for the last two seasons, no, he hasn't. However, that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a job and that he's not a starting quarterback in his league.

So when you talk about a team that has a quarterback need, you say, hey, we're on the market. We had Cam Newton out there, and we had Matt Barkley. Right. I'm going to go sign Matt Barkley. Get the hell out of here, man. But that makes no sense. So to me to see that and hear that, you know, obviously with the team, there's a deeper issue there.

But my problem is teams always say, hey, we're trying to be competitive. We're trying to put the best team together possible. And with all due respect to Matt Barkley, you're not going to tell me that he's better than Cam Newton on any day of the week. No, no, no, no, no, no day of the week. But my whole thing is this, maybe, Tori, is like, if you're Matt Rule and you just walked in and they handed you the Keys in the Queen City. If you think about the most iconic athletes in the history of like Charlotte Sports, I mean, he's probably number one. Mugsy Boggs. Maybe grandma, but it's definitely Cam Newton. Cam Newton, MVP in his sport, an icon. So like, you don't want to

fuck this up. Go south with Cam, with Cam Newton. You sign him for six months and you make the playoffs at eight and nine or whatever it is. Matt Ruhle has in his head. You probably, you probably get a pass in that city for a while if things go well. But if it goes south and you're at odds with Cam Newton, you're probably not well liked in that city anymore. So that's what I'm saying is like maybe it's good to just cross the T's and dot the eyes because this is bigger than Matt Barclay. I mean, it's for sure bigger than Matt Barkley in terms of the organization and what and who Cam is and what he means to Charlotte. Yeah. But again, if you're trying to win, he's there and I understand this, right? I played with Steve Smith, senior. Yeah.

Panther legend never thought a day in my life from watching him coming up that he would ever not play in Carolina right right but we all know how this business goes things happen relationships change and teams do what's best for them yeah so for cam newton to move on it wasn't a surprise cam had been hurt um there's money involved so you understand the football move before now I'm sure there are a lot of feelings that need to be dealt with been hugged out, which I'm sure that I'll be able to get through because David Tepper's one of the coolest dudes around. That's what it sounds like.

But the reality of it is, I understand the football move from before. Yeah. And I think they can get to that point now. But to me here with rule, it's like if you're talking about strictly from a football perspective, you have to get someone. Yeah. PJ Walker can play ball, right? I think he can play ball.

I worked out with him when I was still playing. I think he's an excellent young quarterback. I think he's very athletic and given an opportunity. I think he's going to play very well. However, if you have a guy like Cam Newton sitting there, you go and get them, right? Yeah, I agree. People haven't been showing up in Charlotte like they have been in the past. Get Cam Newton there.

You'll get back to a sold-out stadium, whether he's standing there with sweats or not. So to me, it just, if we're talking strictly from a football perspective, it just simply doesn't make sense. But I hope it all works out. And Stephen A. Smith will be talking about you every morning. Skip Bayless, Shannon, the whole like first take kind of circle. we'll be talking about you. Like the Panthers would be relevant for the rest of the year.

For better, for worse, like Makin and I are sitting here, and we've been debating, I'm on your side of the argument. I think that you've already told me what you intend to do with this team this year, and that's when. You've made moves in the short term that have instructed fans that, like, you're serious about making a run at this thing. The Sam Darnold thing, he's out four to six weeks. So, Cam is vaccinated.

He's ready to play. You got Washington next weekend. You have Arizona this weekend who might be. short-handed, maybe not. I don't know if Kyler's up, but you don't know how his ankle's going to be. You look at their next four games, Torrey. You got Washington football team, Miami and Atlanta in whatever order it is after Arizona. So you've got a chance to go three and one in that four game span. I think if I'm Matt Rule, I'm thinking like, hey, that's attainable. I've already told you what I think about this team. There's no reason why we're sitting here at four and five.

We can't make a run in the next four weeks before we get to that last four weeks, which is Buffalo, New Orleans, Tampa Bay and Tampa Bay in a different order than the way I just put it. But like the point is, I think Cam Newton is the right move here because you've already told me you like this team. And you've already played yourself into the middle where you're not going to have a top five quarterback in the 22-22 draft making your case. Well, I think it makes a lot of sense from a PR standpoint. But last we saw Cam, it was eight picks, it was 10 picks and eight touchdowns in New England. So my question is, who are we getting? And I know the jersey is the same,

but the offense is very much not the same. So, Tori, who is this? Is this game manager? Is this guy who can still run for a bunch of touchdowns? Is it dumping it off to McCaffrey and let him go to work? Yeah, I mean, what would we see from Cam and Carolina? Well, I'm glad that you asked this question because you're talking about the quarterback position in which

quarterbacks get all the credit when things go well but when things go south people don't really care and what do I mean by that is that when a quarterback is playing well no one cares when his weapons are out there bawling right like Aaron Rogers is I think he's the greatest quarterback talent-wise to ever play this game

he has Devonté Adams over there one of the elite receivers what do people say he still needs another weapon out there right yeah in New England in New England who was Cam Newton throwing to Nobody. Jacoby Myers.

So he goes out. So much so, so much so that Bill Belichick went out and spent all of this money to bring in guys because you know, he knows that a quarterback success depends on their environment. Yeah. More so than any other position on the field. So I think that that's not making an excuse for everything, but I think that's a major factor into it. So you add him into Carolina, a place that has DJ Moore, a place that has Roger Moore, a place that has. be innocent, a place that has a healthy Christian McCaffrey. And now you can really see who the real Cam Newton is. Because if you want to go back, look at Patrick Mahomes right now. And in the

Super Bowl, what it looked like when he didn't have an offensive line and when his weapons weren't necessarily available? Right? The greatest player can look like a bum depending on your environment. So I think for him, it's huge. I think Cam is ready to roll. I think he's very hungry. and the expectations aren't through the roof. So he can be less of Superman and more of a game manager. Just Sam Donald would have been more of a game manager like he was earlier in the year. Yeah. And he didn't get hurt.

We wouldn't even be having this conversation. Right. So I think it's important to put all those things into perspective. Yeah, I could see that, Tori. And I'm wondering because you played in Carolina on some of those teams that they didn't take good care of Cam from a talent standpoint around him. I think sometimes like somebody like Cam or even Lammer. can be their own worst enemy unintentionally when it comes to accruing talent around you because people are like,

oh, he can do it all himself. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can save money here and here and here and there on the roster because this guy is so dynamic. And then you have these situations where some of our best quarterbacks don't have talent around them. You had one talented guy in Tori Smith. You had a guy like Steve Smith as well with Cam some. But the offensive line was always in flux. You always wanted more weapons to your point earlier.

Do you think that this would be the most talented Panthers team he'd ever played on? Like taking the defense out of the equation? Absolutely. I mean, look at it. You have Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore. DJ Moore has been one of the more underrated receivers in the league since he's had the opportunity to start. Obviously, I was there with him as rookie year. And, you know, it took him some time to kind of get it going.

But once he realized who he was, he's always kind of been himself. But once he realized who he was and had his opportunities, he took full advantage of it. I mean, he's one of the – he has the most receiving yards over the last two seasons than any other receiver. But he's just underrated because he's in Charlotte. So now you put him in this environment, a mature DJ more, right? Robbie Anderson, one of the more explosive receivers in this league as well. And Christian McCaffrey's healthy. I mean, you can't go through the history of the Panthers and find a better wide-receiver tandem.

running back commerce combination and i know steve is probably like dude what are you talking about well i mean maybe back in the 90s when i was a big panthers fan we could find like a musine mohammad combo i don't know if machine and steve and no musine and steve yeah but but and when you're talking about between that like i'm dj more and roby anderson in terms of what they're capable of doing explosive wise can be up there with any dual-euvre and you can be up there with any dual that you name, right? And it's not a knock on the OGs. I know Steve's gonna blow a gasket like, do you lose your damn mind. But what I'm saying is

he has very capable talent. Yeah, no, it's good. Christian McCaffrey, a weapon that no one's had. It's a league of its own, you know? In the Cam Newton era, I would agree with you. I don't think this, there's a better group. I just got a text message from Steve Smith. He said Robbie Anderson has 19 catches in nine games. So I, you know, shots fired.

You got to say you got a text message. Well, Steve also told you what he thinks about Sam Donald. So, Tori, thank you so much for your time and your insight. Tori Smith. Where can we catch you these days, man? Are you just like on TV periodically?

You got any podcast? Like, what are you doing these days, Tori? Man, I'm all over the place, man. I'm trying to get stuff going again with the podcast. I've been a youth coach extraordinaire the past few months and I've been delayed on everything else. But I'm all over the all over the place on media. You can follow me on social media if you're ready for a firestone every day.

tweet about Cam Newton. You can find Tori's feelings at Tori Smith WR on Twitter. I love this guy, man. What are the best, bro. What of the best, dude. We appreciate the time, T. You have a good one.

See you, buddy. There you heard from Tori Smith. So Cam Newton is a panther at this point. The reunion has happened. Do you have a favorite reunion of all time? Yes. What? The Downton Abbey movie, I guess.

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So Stanford Steve is not yet with us. We're trying to pin him down. You have a theory? Daylight savings was last week. Yeah, it could have been. It's just the daylight savings mix up. Because for instance, we have a clock in the studio that's an hour later. So maybe all his clocks are an hour later.

Like the digital clock in our studio. And we'll be seeing him in just a little bit. Damn, Reed. That was kind of like snitching a little bit. What? Oh, on Reed, yeah.

It's clock. I, you know what I do at home? What? Got the microwave and the oven clock still, you know, not that high tech over there. I,

I set them a minute fast. Bro, I love a nice microwave clock. Yeah. It's soothing at 10 p.m. Oh, it's like 10.03. Just relaxing. I'll get a snack.

Hey, 10 p.m. You're eating after 10 o'clock? Oh, hell yeah, dude. What are you eating? Whatever I can, dude. Whatever I can. I'm an omnibumum. before after 10 o'clock.

Could be like hummus. Could be like a handful of whole foods tortilla chips. You know, the whole foods ones. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And you're allowed to do this just because what? You work out during the day or something? Yeah, I work out. And then also like I eat pretty clean.

And I'm not eating like a big sugary thing at night. Oh, two almond short breads. Yeah, you're doing that. And I'm just like, hey, I want some calories. I want some salt. Last night, my lovely wife. But I'm breaking the first rule of fight club a lot. Go ahead.

made a chicken parm yeah dank dank at 10 p.m. Not at 10 p.m. We had like 7 p.m. See, I want it cold at like 10.30. Well, it's cold in the fridge if you want to pop over for a tub. That comes back to the microwave clock. Maybe the reason I love microwave clock so much is because that's what I'm getting at like 1030 at night, like some cold chicken parm heated up. Do you want to pop over for a tub in a parm? I was going to invite Steve over for a tub. I was going to tell him to bring a suit.

Did you just invite me over to eat chicken parm in a hot tub? you sick fuck. Yeah. You're like the serial killer. Leadberry. You're like Steve Bouchemey. It was so good. You're like Steve Bouchemey in the basement putting lipstick on vibes with that invitation.

That I ate so much of it that I, uh, Billy Madison? Is that Billy Madison? Yeah. That I didn't eat my almond shortbreads last night. They're still in the cabinet. You were gambling so much last night at 10 p.m. That you didn't eat, uh, almond shortbreads. Here's the thing, dude.

I'm turning over a lot of leaves in my life. One of them is I'm getting eight hours sleep every night. Start it last night. Yeah. Must be nice. I've children. And I'm going, yeah, so do I, two of them. But like sometimes if you're not up gambling, you can go to bed earlier.

And then you can get up and still be with your kids. Well, to be fair, the Golden State Warriors bet I put in. I didn't stay up to see the end of. That's not completely true. Yeah, I waited until I was comfortable. You stayed up because you texted me at like 1130. I feel like it was, which is way late for you. And you're like, I have a problem.

And it's like a Golden State live bet. And I had to like squint to read it because I'm in bed next to Meg. And I'm, you know, getting ready to sleep. And I'm looking at this ill-advised, maybe not ill-advised because you won the bet. I won the bet. Is anything where you, where you wager, what was it? Give me the breakdown again for you. I'll just give you the numbers.

Yeah, give me the numbers. I don't need to talk units. I wagered $200 to win $889. and to be even more clear, that's $8.89. That's absurd, dude. Yeah. At 11.30 for you to be texting me that, I was like, okay, we do need to call the hotline. Now, to be clear, my place of business here does is, is good enough to get me $100 a week.

Now, I haven't seen that money, of course. I rarely see the money that is promised here. Yeah, got it. Got it. Got more shots at payroll. You're taking shots at REEC because you reset the clock. All right. Yeah, odds were minus 2250 because I had done really well betting tennis earlier in the day.

So what I meant to say was I'm gambling within my means, should the check ever come through from Greenlight HQ. But yeah, Maxion did me wrong, real wrong. The Toledo Bowling Green Live total. That went under that one. Yeah, but that's mainstream degenerate stuff. You've been betting soccer and I don't even know what they're doing. I don't even know that people were playing soccer I'm currently on

I mean I know they are but not I'm currently on North Macedonia yeah North Macedonia I'm learning about countries which listening to your bets which laugh all you want leads Armenia 3 nil right now and I've parlayed that with a basketball game I'm on Maccabi Tel Aviv

over Siska Moscow that game's tied right now at 61 which is the people betting on some of these games the lack of regulation with some of these foreign leagues, I'm pretty sure. Like we're barely keeping it together here in the U.S. when it comes to gambling. Okay, well, let me teach you something. Have I lost today on a few doubles matches?

Van Ritcho, Vinsacho, Berkich, Kachich, Draper Gojo, Carol Pekorni, I have. I have lost on those. But the secret to the success is when a tennis match, when singles or doubles, they lose the first set, and they go up a break in a second set, still getting plus odds hammer it hammer it because to your point

and to Kingston's point there might be some malfeasance afoot and there might be fellows So you think that there's like men women The mob is involved in the test

On purpose You think there's mob ties Yeah now I'm not influencing that I'm just taking advantage of it And also I have no idea What you just said That's the lead for me It's like no idea

A double fault set So tennis three sets It's best of three. You lose the first on purpose. 15. Love. 15 love. 30 love, 45 love.

Deuce. 40 love. Yeah. I would love to have Alan Berg on just so we could ask him who's watching these games to set live lines. Yeah. Well, it's robots, I think Allenberg said. And then Dr. Fax asked Alan Berg to his face if robots were going to take his job. Moscow's up three.

God damn it. Stairford Steve's here. fellas how's it going that's not how he talks at all just let me keep going I'll get into a group okay hey Steve what do you think about the the tight end this weekend

you know who I like is that Brock Bowers down in Georgia 65 260 how do you do Steve it's hard he's one of the least easily imitated people on the internet we should we should book him as a guest

moving forward so we don't have to be in this predicament. I can't, like, I wouldn't, I'd be petrified to try to imitate him. You can't, I just tried. It's impossible. Stanford Steve, more like sleepy Steve. Sleepy Steve. Sleepy Steve. No, it's sleep in, Steve. Sleep in Steve.

Sleep in Steve. Oh. Instead of a line being stinky, it's now sleepy. Sleepy lines for sleep in Steve. So Stanford Steve just called. He didn't hear a sorry in there. Oh, he's a sore. But you know what? You should apologize for some of the things you're betting on. Like it's really...

I bet on the Warriors... People that bet on these games have sick fetishes, too. I bet on the Warriors when they led 77 to 60. And damn, that game got down to four points. People that bet on the games you're betting on... And your boy was sweating. People that bet on the games you're betting on, they have like really weird...

I'm telling you, there might be some weird fetishes going on with you. I love... Brough. Kingston knows. I know, bitch. Over under. How long until he apologizes? I mean, I bet he leads with Asori.

That's all I'm saying. All right, odds. Let's set odds. All right here. Steve's about to come on. Let's set odds on Asari. Oh, but how long? I say within seven seconds, he's saying, sorry.

Set your timers. I'll go over on seven seconds. Okay. Seven and a half. Seven and a half. How much you want to bet? $5. Let me check in on.

Five dollars, dude. Let me check it on Maccabi Tel Aviv. See if I have any money. All right, we can do $5. They play a lot of packline D in Israel. All right, so $5 on first seven seconds. Yeah, how are we going to do it? From when he first says a word.

From when he first says a word. Okay. Okay. And it has to be a sorry or I apologize? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, some iteration of an apology. Okay. Steve.

Hey, Steve. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay, can you do a count to 10 real quick for audio? Steve, everything good? You're messing with me. Are you good? Are you good, Steve?

I don't believe you guys. We're good. Good. Fucking prick. 18 seconds. Should I wear this this weekend or should I wear my Duke late in her jersey? Fuck off. We were saluting the troops on Tuesday.

Never heard of it? We'll be fine. Yeah, that's true. That is why we lost the Navy. We'll be a, we'll be a tin seat in a down year. Everybody relax. Yeah, and like 2003, I'd be like, get BW3s to watch our 10 seed team lose.

We'll be winning the Natty again in two years. We're fine. We're fine. Steve, Steve, are you okay? Is everything all right? Yeah, I'm good. We did a seven second bet that he goes, you would say sorry for being late in the first seven seconds,

and I made you try to make you count to 10. You didn't count to 10, and you didn't say sorry, Eddie. Oh, I love it. Not the worst wager I've made. Five bucks. You want to hear the worst wager he made? Well, it's probably the one I won. Okay.

Minus 2250. Warriors to win. A live line in the third quarter last night put down 200 bucks to win eight. And they were up 17. It was a four-point game at one juncture, as you might have seen. But they won. So $8 richer. Yeah.

$8 richer. now he's only $3 richer because he lost the bet because Steve's on everything to fucking apologize for it he's coming in town this weekend I'm psyched Steve this is Steve's week this is Steve weekend in Charlottesville man Steve weekend Steve's weekend Steve a paloza what do you want to do Steve you want to take a tub bring a suit

we'll take a tub you don't want to see me in a hot tub you don't want to see me in a hot tub I don't want to see either of you in a hot tub I want to go to college football game we're going to a college football game we're seeing UVA Notre Dame I've been hit up since you know words got out that I'm coming to town and people are like be careful I'm like what they're like it's not a campus it's the grounds grounds oh yeah yeah no I don't really do that yeah no no I definitely he does that I don't do that I don't do that I don't do that I don't do that it's not that important to me the distinction between campus and grounds I will be welcoming

you to campus to me it's I've said before like my freshman year and people were like how dare you yeah first year second year third year or fourth year I know Stanford's got some shit like that probably. Is it like Stanford in the fact that there's construction everywhere on the goddamn campus? There's construction on every college campus every time I go to a college. They should give out vouchers. Yes. There is too much construction.

It's ridiculous. And no parking. They should give out vouchers to construction workers to go to Stanford games for the TV effect, I think. What time are you going to get here? Hopefully like 10 a.m. Wow. Dude, we're going to have a great day. We're going to have the best day ever.

Hey, we're going to have the best day ever. And, and, making, let's not bury the lead. We need you to verbally commit to drinking with us Saturday night. I commit verbally to drinking with you Saturday night, but 10 a.m. I don't have that sort of stamina. Are you going to stop hanging out with us after the game? I don't know. Okay.

All right. That sounds like a no. Steve, you would be Saturday. I got that. I have some people to see. Can you get me a golf cart for Saturday? Yeah. Actually, yeah.

I got a golf cart, no problem. I can help you out. I actually have one in my possession because I didn't make it. Thanks, Chris. That's two. That's already two. You're going to hang out after the game and you're going to get me golf cart. Exactly, exactly.

What are we doing after the game? Probably drinking more beer. Where? I don't know. I don't want to give, I don't want docs. We got a celebrity in town. I don't want to tell people where he's going to be. Well, if it's your house.

Maybe. Oh, is nowhere about my house. If it's my house, well, the pandemic is outside. Got it. You just had to shake on that bet. Steve, the line is like, is it six for the Virginia Notre Dame game.

You can't just stroll into town sideline passes and all and not put your nuts on the table and tell us what you think's going to happen. I did want to put Chris, you got me to sideline passes too, right? Yeah. And then I mean, all right, so that's three. All right, so that's three nothing. Three nothing. We haven't even started yet.

No, we haven't even gotten into the car. You're right. What is a hot tub invitation if not a point? What's a hot tub invitation? Come to my home? I'm in town for like 24 hours. Yeah, we're going to devote. Hot tub takes like a whole hour

to do, bro. Do you want to see my dog? We have to ride my golf cart down the hill to your house. Do you want to meet my daughter? No, no, your daughter's awesome, but do you, do you, can Steve, do you want to meet my daughter?

If she's around. That's an amazing answer. This is the perfect dancer, dude. Actually, so the line is what, guys? Five and a half. Five and a half. Okay, what do you got, Steve? Is the, it's big red rifle playing. I don't know.

Who knows? We got to get to the grounds and get information. Okay, let's say if he's not playing. Yeah, if big red rifle's playing, do we cover? I think you got a good chance. Okay. So I'm extrapolating that if big red rifle's not playing in the kid who's seen like a quarter of college action.

He'll be good. Just maybe not yet. I'm excited about him. Yeah. We're, this is Rudy stuff. We're the new Rudy, dude. The old Rudy is, it's over, dude. It's Virginia is the new Rudy. This is a tailor-made Rudy situation for us. This quarterback's barely played college football.

Jay Wolfram. Think faster Russell Wilson. Yeah. Faster, better. He's got really an unlimited kind of game. So we're going to see that kid on Saturday night. This is a tailor-made Rudy situation. We're going to win that game outright.

That's right. Stanford Steve's coming in town. It's only right. Steve, college football playoff. what's your biggest gripe with the college football playoff right now? Ohio State. Rant. Listen, I did the math out the other day.

They played three good teams. They played Penn State. They played Oregon. Yeah. Right. And, oh, Nebraska's defense is good. I'll give you Nebraska's defense. Right.

That good defense. Yeah. They're averaging 28 points against those three teams. against all the other teams they're averaging in the mid-50s. Yeah. Okay? So that tells me they're not as good as what they were when we saw them against Maryland, Rutgers, Akron, Tulsa.

Right. Tulsa, the team that Cincinnati played last week, Ohio State struggled with them. They don't have a quality win. No, I mean, you're making... And they have a loss, Chris. They have a loss. And you're making solid points, and I've seen them play, and I thought they were unremarkable.

I really do think they're unremarkable. And your biggest gripe is Ohio State. Yours is Sinci? Well, yeah, what's the second part of that? Is Sinci more deserving because they also struggled with Tulsa? Yeah, Cichita just have a loss in there. You guys are going to see Notre Dame this week. You'll have a good feeling for how they are.

And Notre Dame is a better football team now than they were when they played Cincinnati. But I'm taking that out of the mix because Cincinnati went in their building and won by double digits. and I mean I know Oklahoma doesn't have a signature win but they don't have a loss and that's what really bothers me and I'd hate to say it Penn State should be ranked

it's a joke that they're not ranked they beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin right and they beat Auburn and you don't have them ranked come on and they lost Iowa because of the backup quarterback correct that's it the only reason they're ranked because they lost Illinois like that's if we're going to look at all the stuff

and I apologize to the Penn State fans for trolling you for like a day. That was ill-advised. It was a bad. You guys were in a bad place. It was too removed from it to really feel your pain. I like Penn State this week, though.

You like Penn State this week? I do. A little jump ahead. We got Penn State hosting Michigan, both disappointing kind of teams in big spots. So you like them. And why? Is it just the injuries to Michigan?

I just look at the situation. When you look at these two teams that play, they've really thrived off their home crowd. in this matchup except for last year, but that was COVID, and there were any fans in Penn State won at Michigan and turn their whole season around. But I look at the matchup, and I'm still not a believer in Michigan's offense. They torched Michigan State's defense, but then you saw Michigan State's defense another week against Purdue, and now Michigan State, where all that's come is one of the worst past defenses in the country. So Michigan moving the ball against them

is not as much as a surprise as it was to me. And Penn State's defense is way better, way better the Michigan states and they're at home. I think when Clifford's played, he's been consistent. Penn State's offensive line has their hands full against that Michigan front line. But I think Penn State can win the game for sure. They've had playmakers. You saw him last week with Dotson against Maryland, and they're opportunistic on defense. I know he guards the other team's best player a lot, and he's aggressive with his hands.

But I think Troy Porter Jr. is a hell of a corner. I think he's going to make it. I love the size he has and he never stops playing. So I look for him to have a big game this week too. I like Penn State. So the big gripe this week, Oregon over Ohio State and Michigan over Michigan State. And Michigan State plays Maryland this weekend. So see how that shakes out.

Purdue, Ohio State, team we just talked about in Ohio State. Sounds like you might be on Purdue. Let me drop some knowledge on you via Cowboy Reed here. For Brom, 25 games is an underdog. they're 18 and 7 against the spread 10 outright wins and that includes 7 and 1 against the spread with two outright wins as a double-digit dog

so this feels like a tailor-made situation to take the team on the road here can they make noise and beat Ohio State again they could but I think it's a tall task because now you saw you saw their good last week against Michigan State's defense I think Bell

the wide receiver from Purdue is the bulletin off award winner. No doubt now that Drake London for USC is out with injury. The kids a stud. He, you know, grew up behind the shadows of Rondale Moore. We saw Rondell Moore's doing in the league now for Arizona. And Brahms just done a great job. I call it my Brett Farrb-Stirling Sharp theory. Like, when I was growing up, I just, that's how I became to love Brett Fav. Like, and everybody on the team and in the world that was watching the game in the stadium, the other team knew that far was getting the ball to Sterling Sharp and they still led to league in receptions. And that's just, that's, I mean, execution, um, overall talent, but game planning, like, how are we

going to loosen it up? How are we going to move from around? And Brown does a great job with that. He's a great play caller. He's relentless with his play calls. Um, the problem is, it can produce slowdown in the Ohio State offense. And from all these experts that here, you know, this is Ohio state's bust out game. Uh, so I'm going to wait back and see. I think Garrett Wilson, coming back for Ohio State to huge help because I do think he's their best wide receiver. I know people will say Olave is, but I think Garrett Wilson overall, when you look in it, it's totality. I think he'll be better at the next level. But it's a stay away for me because I don't want to, I don't know what Purdue's going to do off of that huge win. And now they're

ranked. Carlis is a really good defensive end. We've talked about him in weeks prior. but Ohio State's offensive line has been really up and down. And it's two of my favorite play call. Brian Day is my favorite, and Jeff Brown's right up there. So it's kind of a stay away for me. Will you be able to get me in front of a TV so we can watch some of that? Yeah, we can watch some of that.

Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Point for me. Three to one. Wait, what do you mean? Your TV? Yeah.

No, we're not watching your TV. No, no. It's not like your TV is not awesome. We better be on the ground. But there's a baby, dude. There's a baby in your house. The baby's chill. The baby's cool.

Bro, we, there's, I get a better, I get a better picture. Me and Steve are going to be drunk by four. Guys, no, no, no, no, no.

Pace yourselves. Beer drunk, not like, you know, not speech in changing at four o'clock. It's just going to be buzzed, dude. Steve,

you're going to, it's like the grove down here. You're not going to believe your eyes. Peak, Peak, peak foliage right now, too, Steve.

The grove on like a Wednesday. Can't wait for the drive to take it all in. On like a Wednesday at 7 p.m. when there are no cars in the parking lot. The drive back's not going to be as fun, but the drive. We're not talking about the drive back, Chris. Okay.

How are we getting to the game? I don't know. We'll figure it out. Jesus. You guys plan anything? Maybe the question is, maybe the right question is, do you plan everything?

Yeah. It's called perspective making. Try some. Tennessee, Georgia. We've got, we've got Georgia, who's like a 20-point favorite. Like,

yeah, I have a question for you guys. Sure. Would you rather take Purdue plus the 20 on the road or Tennessee plus the 20 at home? Oh, I'd rather take Purdue. I think Purdue just because I've seen live and in person a Hendon Hooker loss,

which is rare when it's Virginia and Virginia Tech. Have you watched these vals? The valls not much. Like I've bar watched the balls. Rapid fire. Big plays, right? Like there's 33 seconds on the. the play clock when they're snapping it again.

They're in a rush, huh? Yeah. They're in a hurry to get things done. That was a cool game against Kentucky. Always rushing, rush and that's no fun. That's right. Yep.

But I think Georgia creating turnovers and such, I think that gets out of hand. I mean, that's the thing. When you play that fast and you can't keep consistently getting positive plays, that's dangerous against Georgia's defense, man, because then you're just giving them the ball. But if you can keep it manageable and maybe not as play as fast,

but that's what Heppel does. This system is as fast as anybody in the country. I just think about taking those shots and then maybe taking another one or has to throw an incompletion or waste of throw. And now you're third and ten. And you don't want to be in third and tens against Georgia in that front seven. Third and ten has to feel terrible against Georgia right now. Like a death grip, dude.

Especially down there. Like you just come on. You might as well punt. You're probably better off punting. I don't know what people are. converting on third and long. Where did the quick kick go? The quick kick.

Yeah, people need to bring the quick kick back just for Georgia. That was a big George Welsh thing. Was it a George Welsh thing? Third and six, quick kick. Little pooch punt by the quarterback. We used to do that on the regular. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I grew up on that.

I was up on the hill. I was kind of like people were passing little bottles of vodka around up there. Yeah. Little deer park bottles. You were 12? Yeah, I was 12. Actually, there were. There was a bunch of people with their deer park in their Patagonia.

man we got busted at one party that way somebody got Deer Park full of vodka in their North Face busted I went with yeah I went with Mike's hard lemonade I didn't know it was alcoholic you had Mike did you that was there that was your

excuse didn't know it was alcoholic put the empty bottles underneath the the kickout thing in the couch mine was I didn't know Jack Daniels have more alcohol in it than beer that's fair fair as fun little container thought it was like a travel

mouthwalk. No, I got a hold of the big, the big joint. Tennessee, Georgia here. I'm like, this is going to be probably a blowout. I all do respect to Tennessee. Then they play kind of a cupcake and then they play Georgia Tech. So they're not really going to be tested. That's not their fault until the SEC championship game. Say it's Bama. What do you make that line? And would anybody else in the country match up better according to Vegas than Bama? Oh, that's a really good question. Here's the deal, because we talked to this week, because if you look close regarding the SEC, there's a path for Texas A&M.

Yeah, they're good, man. They're real good. I feel like everybody knows it, too. And their lines of scrimmage, the defensive line and the offensive line, I think, is better than Alabama's. Now, when you take everything in its totality, whatever, neutral site, Alabama will probably beat them again. But when you look at Bama, the matchup, yeah, you got to make it more than a field goal, right?

That's four. Four. He thinks it's four. I'm like, should it be like seven? Am I crazy? No, but you're not going to get Bama. No, just for the sake of. But I know what you're saying.

But if I was making the line and I wasn't trying to profit off the line, like if I'm trying to actually make the line, I think it's closer to a touchdown or more. I think that I bet I bet Georgia all day long is what I'm saying okay yeah I bet Georgia all day long and you're saying Texas and I need to see Georgia this week yeah you're saying Texas A&M might have a better shot against Georgia than Bama or no I might yeah I might see that let me out next week I will answer that because they both have huge games on the road we've got the 538 thing up here Steve we have this special program here that pulls up the 538 odds you can check win lose out only we have it. Special program. Yeah, it's a fucking joke.

Internet. Yeah. Algorithms? So you pick proprietary. I don't know. We're looking at Texas A&M this weekend. They're playing Mississippi. Ole Miss. There you go. As we call it, I'm reading,

538's fucking stupid. Give me win or lose. Check the lose right here. Obviously they have a less than 1% chance. Great job, 538. Give me the win here. Their chances of making the playoffs go up to 25%. If they went out, it's 45%.

If they win out, it's 45%. Give me another one, make. And this is fun. This is our new program we have here. Cincinnati. Our budget went up. They have to win out. Oregon, that's a fun one.

Wake Forest. Wake Forest. The big shame of Wake Forest is this Wake Forest NC State game, I would fucking love to watch this way. I'll still like to watch it. I'll probably bet it. We have a TV in the suite, right? Yeah, there's going to be a bunch of TVs.

I'm like a I'm like a recruiter that'll say whatever to land the player right now you know what I mean 10 a what do you need you need a fucking fucking ice cold smirnoff machine that just spits out vodka yeah we got that at my house 10 a.m. Why not like a noon arrival? That seems more prudent. I'm telling you 10 a.m. because I know what you're about. Well yeah, I want to see you guys about 6 p.m. We'll have a medello and the part We're going to be hanging out, bro.

You just don't worry about it. But let's say Wake Forest, Wake Forest didn't get into the playoff, man. Wake Force and getting the playoff. They play NC State this weekend, by the way, Steve, what are you like in that game? I don't even know what the line is there. Wake Forest, I believe, is favored.

By like a field goal? Yeah. That would sound about, right? Yeah, two and a half. Total 66.5. I'm more interested in the total there. What do you think about the total there? I'd say under.

Okay, okay, got it. Last we got our dogs after dark. We got Washington State and Oregon. Oregon's given two touchdowns at home. This might be the game I give out this week in college football. Okay, four-game winning street. Uh-oh, uh-oh for Washington State because I'm taking Washington State. Four game, four-game winning streak since the last coach.

In conference. In conference. They lost to BYU. Yeah, in-conference winning streak. Guys, don't take anything I'd say too seriously. 0 and 5 against the spread. That's what Oregon is at home. And 3 and 0 against the spread.

That's what Washington State is on the road. I'm giving out Washington State. Do you like them as a dog after dark, or do you like maybe Colorado getting 16 and a half against UCLA as the dog of Colorado? I like the over in the UCLA Colorado game, and I would lean towards Wazoo at night. I think it's a look-ahead spot for Oregon.

Oregon's got to go to Salt Lake next week. No one, I believe, is going to pick Oregon next week in Salt Lake City. I actually think Utah might be favored in that game. When you look at how well Utah is playing. So I would lean over in the Rose Bowl and I could see Wazoo hanging around.

Deloria, the quarterback is good. You can get around there and, you know, going back to the rankings, obviously we talk Georgia's one, but like after that, I think we have to stop worrying about getting style points from people because these teams are just going to get wins. And if you go accordingly like that, that's where I think the undefeated season's coming to play.

So Oregon's got their work cut out for them because if they go to Salt Lake could win, they're probably going to have to beat Utah again in Vegas. Herm Edwards energy, bro. You play to win the game. Is that Stanford Steve or AAC commissioner Mike Oresco? That's good, dude, right on the spot too. And you looked up his name? I did.

You're fucking good, dude. And I'm not leaning. I'm not leaning, wazoo. I'm betting them right now. now. I'm trust falling. I'm trust falling. I'm trust falling. I don't you wait until Saturday when it's more like 15 and a half. When the public, you think the public's going to be on Oregon?

Make it. Yeah. Because he's going to, because we're going to be out and he's going to forget. Oh, no, we're going to be doing it all day long. I'm going to forget. We're going to be doing all day long. This is called this is betting. Oh, okay. Well, it's an audio podcast. I can't see that weird motion. You're doing with your hand as you tell Steve you're going to do it all day long. Speaking of the dogs after dark, um, is there a place in Charlestville that has back 12 network. Sure. We can make that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Anything else? You want a limousine. If he said limousine right now, I'd be like, yeah,

man, we got a limousine. Yeah. What are one of those party buses where we could just drive around. They got a bartender on there. Why don't we get a party bus, dude? How much can you guys drink? I know how much can you. Shit, this might be a problem. Might be a problematic day. You can, you can be at your own pace, but just don't like, don't do a healthy scratch. What do I have to do? You're going to get a glimpse. into my life, Steve. A lot of responsibilities over here. 57 million

other Americans. Do you still have your seat up in the corner of the end of the end of? He'll find a way to get drunk on the weekend. I didn't hear that and no, I'm going to be in the mix with you guys. What are we doing for lunch? All right, dude. My wife, Steve, my wife made chicken palm last night. It was great. Might still have

some of that in the fridge. Did you send it to Butchie Gras? You got to get his approval rating. Oh, that's right. Groft got a chicken parm thing. Yeah. I love chicken farm, dude. Who doesn't? Yeah. Who doesn't? I mean, come on. Is it, is it somehow just as good cold? I hate to say that. Sorry, But it's just as good cold to me. We were talking about the microwave earlier. Sometimes I just skip the microwave. Take it right out of the fridge. I don't use microwaves. Yeah, it's bad for you. How do you make your popcorn? Don't I don't make popcorn. Steve. Oh, wow. My kids devour popcorn. Imagine dying and being like, I don't make popcorn like one day. just being like, oh, looking back

of your life. They say you think about a lot of regrets. You should think about that. I'll have a popcorn at a theater. I'm not sitting home making popcorn. You need to get a popcorn machine. That's what we're going to get you for Christmas. Do you own a microwave? Unfortunately, yes.

So you're okay with your family deals with the radiation from the microwave, but not you. Oh, the baby. The baby is resilient and they can absorb. You're so selfish. I'm selfish. Yeah.

All right. So we're going to lose Steve on Sunday. Obviously, he's got a job to do. And when we're watching it on TV, we're going to beg, holy shit, he's doing that after last night. He's a true pro. And then I just know where this fucking weekend's going, dude. Are you going to do drugs too? No, I don't do drugs, bro.

You and me both. Put it in my column, point. So the NFL, let's give out some winners, man. I'll tell you one winner I want to give out the New England. Patriots. I got them at like a pick-em and now they're what guys? Two and a half. They're minus two and a half and I got them at a pick-em

and I just don't see any way around this and I'm willing to stand on the table on this thing. I know the Browns as a result of me saying this will probably beat the shit out of the Patriots on the road but I just don't see it when you take Nick Chub out of the equation. It's really hard to think Baker

Mayfield versus even a secondary that's been up and down in New England if they have that Pat Patriot guy on their helmet, they're probably going to be held to deal with at home and they have something schemed up for them. Give me the Patriots. Yeah, it feels like you or I take them every week. I think I went three and oh again last week.

Oh, man. You're taking New England? Yeah, I'm taking new. He didn't go three and oh. Hey, Reed, Cowboy, talk to him. Cowboy, you have a microphone. Don't trust it. Cowboys, just doing the hand motion thing.

Cowboys, stand up for yourself in your note taking. One and two last week, Steve. Wow. were your win, Eagles, Vikings. Eagles and Vikings, Vikings did not cover. Yes, they did. Oh, they did, they did cover.

Yes, they did. They covered, Reed. Yeah, it was five and a half. Okay. Steve, I'm telling you. Don't trust the accounting around here. So what was the other one? What was the other one?

Because he said three and oh. Eagles. Eagles did cover. No, they didn't. Oh, two and a half. Was the two and a half the number? Oh, fuck, Cowboy. Cowboy, we got to go back and do an audit now.

We got to do an audit. The entire year. We got to do an entire year audit. Hey, because I was shocked to hear I was winning so much, and I appreciate it, Reed. I really do. Exactly. Like, oh, man, now it's all coming up. We're going to go back and do an audit.

Then what we have to do, though, is then match it up with the actual results. Okay. All right. All right, all right. All right. Lock in, guys. Lock in here. It doesn't, we've all played well.

Frickin Siska Moscow beat Maccabi Tel Aviv by a point. 74-73 just went final guys betting Siska Moscow game. Do you think you're betting those games because you're not winning college football or NFL? I'm not... You would think Cisco Moscow would lose a bunch of games with all the mobsters, right? They're on the road, too. It's easier to shave the points than win.

2-12 from 3 from Maccabi Tel Aviv. Tough sled. Out rebounded by 7. Fucking Fiba at 11 o'clock at night and then the next day at 3 p.m. All right, so I'm giving out the Pats. Steve. I like Tennessee at home. I'm still not sure with that Saints quarterback situation. I know what I'm getting with the Titans.

They're back home. Red hot. Give me them laying in only three. It's hard to argue with that one, man. I feel like it's borderline stinky. I feel like they should be taking the public into account after that Rams game. I mean, like that's a major wow moment for most NFL fans this year.

Like I think we've failed to believe our eyes with the Titans. And they keep taking. hits in different ways and they keep winning with different guys out, including Derek Henry. Yeah, I like this pick here. Making what you got. Los Angeles Chargers minus two and a half over the Minnesota Vikings. Chargers at home. Escape last week. Minnesota. Heartbreaking loss. I'm not doing the Zag thing. I think the chargers are better and they win at home. I'm going to give you a curveball here and I've been betting this before they find out that Cam Newton's going to jump into his Panthers

uniform like Superman in a phone booth and rush for 120 and throw for 107 this weekend right off the pregame warmups No I just I don't know if he's really going to do all that but I do mean to say that the Panthers I actually like for some reason this week I like

the Panthers they're getting 10 points I just maybe you could tease them with somebody but I'll give them out I just feel like I feel like with that defense and overvaluing a Kyler Murray at a question mark physically last week. You know, the Colt McCoy thing. Colt McCoy's experience and everything, but the cards have always played the Niners tough. And I should have seen that a mile away last

week when I bet the Cardinals, the Cardinals beat the shit of the Niners. We overvalue the Niners. So hence we overvalue the Kyler Murray question mark Cardinals. I don't know where he's going to be physically, even if he plays, because we learned that last year with the shoulder. So give me the Panthers. And after all that, they'll probably get boat raced. Denver at home minus two and a half against I hate to say it but I like that too and I'm not giving it out but boy you're right the run game the way they're probably buzzing off that win

the team like that's I mean what they did to Dallas give me that at home in altitude come on a team like that doesn't they don't get fat and happy off a win like that like a good team gets fat and happy off a win Denver does not feel sufficiently recognized this week okay, they're the one team that no matter how good they get, they're not going to get talked about on first take.

So like Denver is a team that's going to stay hungry, and I like that pick as well. Make. Give me the guy who loves to be big mad, loves to have an edge. Razors. Packers at home favored by three and a half over the Seahawks. Russell's back, that's fine. Should be a, should be a fuel goal game any other week, but not when Rogers is coming back from this whole mess.

I don't remember. Did Breeze come back from that thumb well two years ago? Do you remember that high five, a similar high five situation when Aaron Donnell where Drew Breeze exited the building and then they went and beat Seattle with Teddy and went like four and two or something? Breeze came back and I feel like he surprised me and I think Russell could surprise me as well

but the finger is always a big question mark, dude. I just don't know how he's going to look. I don't know what the weather's like this weekend. You talk about a grip on the ball. I think Green Bay is we heard about balls when you talked to Eli Manning, didn't we? Yeah, we did. He likes them with nubs on them.

Okay. I'm going to give out the I'm going to give out the Raiders, man. They're getting a field goal at home. I think the Chiefs are figuring things out, but I think this game's tight, if not a Raiders win. I'm not going to bury the Raiders after that East Coast trip last week. And the Raiders

have always scored with the Chiefs. I mean, you talk about games that they've won. Like the one team that the chiefs have lost to, even when they've been firing on all cylinders, they gave up like 42, I think it was, a year or two ago to the Raiders. I think this is a high-scoring game,

and I think the Raiders might win. So give me the Raiders. I got to give out one more. Let's go. Give me the Lions. No, damn that's my last one. Lions is mine. Oh, oh.

Oh, both you guys, you guys have at it. Have at it. Have at it. You know what? You're right. You texted me that last night. Yeah. You did.

Steve wants it too. I want to make this easy for the accounting team. Put me down for one of my picks the rest of the year. Now that we're off the buy week and Detroit is ready to go, Lions every week will be on my card. Love it. Wow. Lions will also be on Nate Collins card.

Dr. Fax will be betting Lions Money Line in all his parlayes the rest of the year. It makes no sense. I will take the points, not the money lines. Making sure you and Dr. Fax are getting mixed up on parking the cars in the same garage. Yeah, I'm, I'm, my car. Oh, so you guys are both taking a lion. This is a good opportunity for me to separate a little bit from the pack here.

Oh, you know, Steelers. No. Do it. No, no, no, no. Just pick a different game. Okay. Because there's a chance. Have you not already given out three?

That felt like three. I don't think so. I gave out New England off the top. That's right. I let you guys go around as I was thinking about it and I gave out the Raiders. I'm also going to give out the Niners on Monday night. Okay. Because the Niners have always played

the Rams tough. And I think finally the public's figuring out that the Niners are kind of average. And I think that the Rams, I don't know, how are people explaining a way that lost at home last week? That was the Lion's Stafford. I hate doing this. There's some Niners fans that listen to this pod. And you're always like, you never like the Niners. How can you with that defense?

Fuck. You know, good point. You let me think about them. You can't go down anymore, Chris. You already tried the Sunday night. Give me the Jaguars. Give me the Jaguars. Give me the Jaguars.

I'm going to take the Jaguars. They're getting 10 and a half. I have no idea why I'm doing this. No fucking clue. Taylor, should I bet the Jags? Hell yeah. Taylor said no, and he's a Jags fan. 31-13 Colts.

Give me the Falcons at the Cowboys. Oh, good for you. Give me the Falcons at the Cowboys. Give me the Falcons at the Cowboys. Every bet I just mentioned is going to hit, except the one I settle along. Give me the Falcons at the Cowboys. by the half point.

Do it. Matt Ryan's healthy again. I don't know what was wrong with him, but he's healthy again. Okay. Hey, real quick, odds for futures for the Super Bowl here. Win bet.

A lot of people always ask what the best value is. What's the worst value here? I mean, like, we looked for two seconds as well. Off the top of my head. Dallas. Dallas is bad value. Yeah, plus 1,100. Do you think that's bad?

Okay. I just didn't, they're the most bet team, so you're never going to get a true number. It's like at the beginning of the, year for baseball futures. Everybody always bets the Cubs. So I think you're going to not get a true

number. Who do you think the inverse of that is as you look at this thing here? Is it the Cardinals, even though they're really good? Probably Tennessee. Tennessee. Yeah, Tennessee. And I would love to root for Tennessee to win the whole damn thing. I don't love the Rams value. I know I gave out the Rams and go to the Super Bowl, but

things change. I don't love the Rams value here. I just don't there. Plus 800. You could sway me on the Chargers plus 2,000. you know, people are going to think about the Pats plus 4,500, but the Bengals have sunk all the way down to plus 6,000. Now, I'm not saying they can't win a Super Bowl, but it's been ugly the past two weeks.

What are Tampa and Green Bay? Tampa is plus 550, and Green Bay is plus 1,000. I think there's pretty good value in Green Bay plus 1,000. In fact, I might rush to bet that. I think Green Bay has to get home field. I mean, I know they had it last year, and they still lost, but I think it's fine. I don't want, just for the sake of the sport,

I don't want the Rams or Arizona to have home field. Nobody wants, yeah, nobody wants to see that shit. Nobody wants to see that shit. Let's get some cold weather. That's scary. That's scary in the, okay, I'm looking at the NFC. In the NFC, it could be like dome or warm weather.

Like, that's your only bet in the, because look at the standings in the NFC east and the NFC north. Yeah. There's like one team, I think, over 500 in each. Yep, no question. How about the... Dallas and Green Bay. One more thing to let you all know, these are MVP odds.

Lamar's plus 900. Go bet it right now. Just go bet it right now. They keep getting lucky. I don't think... I don't think they end up at like 10 and 7 or anything. I have a hot take on Baltimore. What is it?

They don't make the playoffs. Whoa. Now that... Look at their schedule. I gave out Baltimore, not the... make the playoffs. So I'm not shocked here, Steve. Look, making, look at their schedule. It's brutal. But if they don't make the playoffs,

he can't win the MVP. That's the way it's going to be. I mean, you look at this thing, it's not too far-fetched. Give me Dak. Dak. Dak could win the MVP. At Dolvins, at Bears, the Ravens could be 8 and 2. There you go. Go ahead.

Keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two Browns, two Steelers, Packers, Bingles, Rams. That's a rough stretch. For a team that we've been saying is not that good and they keep getting lucky. So maybe the luck runs out. Maybe the clock strikes midnight and they turn into a pumpkin. But Lamar won't be a pumpkin.

Lamar's the MVP to me at least. It's just I worry about this team. But plus 900, that's pretty good fucking odds. I will say, did Aaron Rogers prove to be the MVP after seeing the Packers without him last week? Holy hellraisers. I mean, you know, I want to give that kid comment. Because that kind of hurts Kyler. Yeah.

Kind of hurt Kyler last week. Look at how good Colt did. Yep. That's a damn fine point. And it could inversely affect last week their Super Bowl odds because of what we just talked about getting home field and that sort of thing. That's really important up there.

So they're in a race for that. Cocklin Award. I need a Cocklin Award. Player watch of the week. I might recommend Jalani Woods tied in Virginia. I'd love that. I'm going to go Keaton Thompson. She's going to line up all over the field.

He does it already, but now in ABC prime time, people are going to be able to get to see the man do his thing. So many people are going to ask questions online. What is Virginia got those? 99. What is he? 98. That's, I don't know what that imitate.

That's what you guys sound like when you're confused. It's like watch a Virginia game. Do we have all types of shit going on? Yeah. I just need to get my feet in that end zone where 99 through it to 36 and back to 99. That bad beat, dude. That bad beat. Steve, see you Saturday.

We'll see you bright and early. Making maybe not so much, but I'll see you. Be there to welcome you. I'll be en route Saturday morning. I can't wait to go to Charlottville. It's my first time coming. I almost took a trip there back in the day. In fact, I was actually talking to some folks today.

It was the morning after they beat Florida State for that first Florida State ACC loss. and the coaches call me for our weekly call, and they were, I want to see, or you guys would know, they carried the goalposts out of the stadium. Yeah, that was awesome. And they were, you can't take them anymore.

You can't do that shit anymore. Yeah, that was before pictures and everything. But yeah, that's what they were telling me, that that place is rowdy on the grounds. Oh, the grounds can get rowdy, Steve. And we can't wait to see our grounds. You bring your orange and blue now, you hear? Yeah.

We don't take kindly. None of this weird stuff. Well, I usually have a trick where I just wear other stuff, so then that's an automatic trip to the equipment room to get new gear. Oh, yeah, that's a really good trick, Steve. Dropping a jewel. Real quick. In the Super Bowl, Seahawks Patriots, it was in Arizona.

So Rosillo Van Pelt and I would go over to the Arizona State Gym and work out after the show. And every day I would wear a Stanford gear in the equipment guy. I was like, I can't. You can't wear that in there. No. I have a ton of Arizona State gear. Dude, that is legendary.

That's really funny. That's legendary. I know he's got some good free shit, but now I know there's art. There's art to it. Here I am buying St. Louis Rams gear before I go out to see your game. No, they would have been like, there's a Packers fan in town. Or there's a, you know, we've sometimes got took over. Chess and Checkers.

Steve, see you Saturday, bud. Can't wait, guys. So excited, man. Going to hang out a lot this weekend, both of us. And we're going to hang out and set our fantasy lineups too, right? Yeah. Make some transactions. Mine's set.

That old watering hole. Especially since I'm not making any transactions. I really, how about Steve arrives about 5 p.m. And then we head to the stadium around 6th. Why can't Steve come to my office at like 30, bro? Me and Steve will hang out. Is this FOMO? Yeah.

Oh, I thought it was just like, you know. No, that's built. into it, but like I'm going to have to do some parenting to be able to account for the... So am I. Do it all the time, you know? Like, I'm a lot of times I'm a stay at home dad. I can bring... I work full time and I'm a stay at home dad. Maybe I'll bring my kid to your house. She'll be around. Okay. Steve'll meet her. Yeah, I got a cough. All right. Well, see you guys about seven o'clock. Right in time for the national anthem. I'll talk to Kate. How about I do that? Okay. Okay. Okay. Kate, if you're listening,

and you're redacted on your way to tennis. She played tennis? She would like to, Chris. Hasn't quite found the time yet, you know? Again, we're doing a lot of parenting over there. Kate, can you give making a pass this weekend? That would be great. Yeah, if you could say like, like Saturday only.

Saturday only. Saturday, that's it. Just one day. And the PM, Saturday, maybe a little bit into the. Yeah. Yeah. I'm willing to trade her all of Saturday

Yeah And I'll Uh You don't have it as bad as the woman at the beginning of leftovers With the baby on the rock She was alone There was a rattlesnake Like it's just you in the house

With a nice house It's a good house You guys have a nice house Oh thanks Yeah Makes sense It's like a fucking car If you had a shitty house

nobody would trust you yeah okay but kate it's not yeah it's not like a leftover situation prehistoric woman it's the you know there's heat in the house there's all types of food

snacks sound machines we do have a lot of sound machines back in downtown abbey they used to just rock babies in a wooden thing dude cradle the help the help would be rocking the baby in a

wouldn't think. It's a, it's, it's, it's times like these where I'm, I'm, I'm thankful that my lovely wife does not listen to this podcast. Kate, we love you. Just please grant him his, uh, his release for Saturday. And she, it's not like she's cool. Yeah. It won't be an issue. No, it's not going to be an issue. I know. She's the best. She's the coolest. Yeah. There are times where I've been like, you know, like we complained during the Halloween party, Makin doesn't want to come up. Make, you know, like, Makin's. Miss. in action. Just call Kate up. She's fun as shit, dude. Kate, you're awesome.

You're so cool. You'd be the only way you could possibly get cooler is if you let make it out on Saturday. Yeah, it's not a let situation, you know? We have a very good 50-50 sort of deal going on. It's, it's, oh, we don't really do pet names. It's, hey, Kate, I'm going to run overhang with Chris and Steve today. For an 18-hour stretch.

Go to the ballgum. Hey, we got, she can come to the ballgum, you know? I, myself, a season ticket holder. So like there are plenty of seats. Okay. For Kate, her crew, the baby, I'll pop down, you know, they can sit and watch the game. Okay, that'd be fun. Yeah. Do that. Okay. I see that Kate, you're invited to the football game. And she knows, she knows she knows she was. Let's go to James Co, dude. Let's go to James Co. The message has been delivered. Kate's definitely going to hear about this. She's already been invited to the football game. We're trying to figure out where we're not going to respect you at all if she hears about this before you ask her explicitly for

PTO on Saturday. I already did. Oh, you did? Yeah. She said no. No, no, she didn't say no. Okay. This isn't a, I don't have to.

You don't need permission. Right. Okay. So we'll see you Saturday all day. All right. Let's talk to James Coe now. Hey, y'all, we want you guys to interact with us more on, on social media here. Let me not sound like a fucking cop talking about this.

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wise street number 5267 that's charlottesville virginia 22905 thank you in advance for all the wonderful things you'll send us james co's in the building we're talking a little fantasy and get you out of here uh james we saw the tweet this week we fucked up and didn't get james the notes last week for the show and then we saw a tweet from james about tips he said one of the tips was get people the notes damn james he had a tweet we're gonna no dude that is oh my god that is not you guys i know it i knew it wasn't i was just i couldn't wait to tell you when you came on it was so funny like wednesday james was dropping really good knowledge on people in the

industry and i was like i was feeling seen we were feeling seen over here at the green light of course weekend james co is the most patient awesome dude to come on this spot every week and deal with us on the tail end of our, like we're punched drunk by this time. Chris, it was 100% not you guys. You guys are cool. You guys send me the links out and everything. It's all good. It's every one of my Wednesday nights.

It's all every one of your Wednesday nights. Yeah. The only thing on my schedule. Co. Co. Co. Co. Co.

And especially this week, because you have a big trade that you've been mulling. All right. He was, he was. What is it? It's kind of interesting. This isn't in the league. that you and I share. Oh, okay.

I'm 8 and 1. Yeah. Salary Cat League, formerly called auction. Wow. League. And that's how I wound up with Zeke Eccler and

Najee Harris, which has got me to 8 and 1. Yeah. Lamar's on the team. Tight in is Gassicki and Dawson Knox. Receivers Godwin, Mike Williams, Judy. Okay, dude, get to the trade.

Are you still jacking yourself off? Dude, I'm over here like. Well, he's going to want to know about roster construction. Okay. So here's what was not only proposed, but I don't want to go as far as

saying agreed to in principle, but the framework was there. And it was to send Najee, Cordaral Patterson, Oh, Mike Gisicki. This is a blockbuster.

And Jerry Judy. Yeah, it's a blockbuster. Away for Christian McCaffrey, Kyle Pitts, and Emmanuel Sanders. Yep. And, spoiler alert, being in Studio J today, I have been talked out of it for a few reasons.

Eight and one, not broke. No need to fix it. Don't want to get rid of that much depth. It's a carryover for his newfound gambling addiction, that like he can't look at anything. I need to mess with something. Everything's transactional for him right now. He's buzzing. So, but point being, all right, the, the Judy and the gase.

Sicky, that's stuff sort of secondary. Would it essentially boil down to Naji and Cordero for Christian McCaffrey? And that just doesn't make sense. And I hope you agree because I've, I've rejected it. Yeah, you should reject that. That's, you're giving away too much. And also again, like, this is the roster that you built an eight and one team on and you're looking to to fix things.

Like I don't, I don't get that. Yeah, just trigger happy, man. And also he feels bad about the guy he's been talking to for two days who's been really cordial with him. We've talked, we've been talking about succession. as we hammer out this trade via email. And I've just built a relationship. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to build a rapport.

You can't just fire it off with no commentary. Do you write emails with the trades? Yeah, some emails, some leagues are emails. Some leagues are text. Man, I don't know this guy. So this has to be an email. I cannot even imagine sending somebody email, let alone about a fantasy trade.

McCaffrey would be going against Tampa Bay, and I don't want to have to deal with that. I'll stick with Z. S settled. Settled. Nause right. That's the right. Okay. Well, speaking to Cordero, Patterson, are you shocked? Is there any corollary to him from previous years? No, I mean, this is absolutely shocking. I mean, we put this dude in the dirt to start the season. This guy hasn't been fantasy relevant in years, bro. Like, it has been since the Reagan administration since Cordero Patterson was a fantasy relevant asset.

And now all of a sudden he pops up in this Arthur Smith offense. And I guess they love him, man. They must absolutely love this dude. And you know what I love about what Arthur Smith is doing with Cordero Patterson? It's like, hey, you're just an athlete, bro. Just go out there and be an athlete. You know, like we're going to get you the ball and just do some stuff. You know what I mean?

Like you don't need to be a technician or a tactician out there at Wider's. It's all good. We'll just lob you up some prayer balls. Just go up and get it. Just get him the ball in his hands. And like, Instead of just trying to make him something, I feel like for years people have been trying to make Patterson something.

He's not all the time. I mean, special teams, he's been a viable option for every team he's been on. But like offensively, and credit to Arthur Smith, it's not trying to reinvent the wheel. It's like, okay, the simple thing is he's scary with the ball in his hands. So let's get him the ball in his hands, the easiest ways we can. And sometimes it's out of the backfield. So fuck me running for releasing him early in the year to like to hurry up and sign some tight end.

because of an injury. That was the dumbest thing ever. I'm still kicking myself. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's stuff. Cleveland Brown's running back situation, also a situation I'm dealing with here personally. So it hits close to home. What are we doing here this weekend related to Cleveland Browns? It's Diorna all the way, right? Yeah. He looked up.

I mean, he looked awesome. Bro, he looked awesome in that one spot start that he had. And what did he have like 150 yards or whatever it was? Yeah. Again, it's like, look, he's a great fit, but it's a great system too. You know, we talked about this too when he popped. when he popped off, right? Like Kevin Stifansky's got them guys running, man. And like, I know I said this, you know, maybe a couple of weeks back, but like, you know, we talk about the Shanahan system. Like,

it's like legendary. It's like lore, right? And like Kevin Stefansky's like approaching that now, you know, not saying that that guys like Chubb and Hunt aren't special players. They are. But when you take great players and put them in a great system, I mean, just awesome things happen. Now, I don't know if Duranis Johnson's that dude. But hey, listen, he's good enough for this outside zone run. scheme. And yeah, man, if he's going to get that volume, sign me up all day long. Yeah. And and Shanahan's kind of taken a hit a little bit as of late. And Stefansky's been ascending and ascending appropriately when it comes to respect for offensive minds in the NFL. What you got? Week 9 out of 18, midway point. Who is being given flowers for drafting people who have

exceeded expectations? We'll start a quarterback. And that one is Jalen Hertz, right? like a top five QB right now. I know it's ugly. It's really ugly how he's getting there. But he is a top five fantasy quarterback. And I think a lot of folks kind of sort of saw it. This is a guy that was being drafted outside of the top 10 in terms of quarterbacks. Drafted in the ninth, 10th, 11th, 12th round.

And listen, if you were smart enough to take him, you knew that he was going to run. You knew this team didn't have a ton of pass catchers outside of Devonte Smith. So he was going to have to shoulder a lot of this offense. And that's exactly what he has done. Dude, this is a guy that's top 13 in rushing yards right now, guys. He has 18 fewer rush yards than Aaron Jones. He's got more rushing yards than Austin Echler and Melvin Gordon. This guy is getting it done in fantasy.

He's been rolling. You put his numbers up against like Mac Jones. If you take out completion percentage and a couple things that really matter, but like it's like, why are we not talking more about Jalen Hertz, which doesn't square with where I think they're going in Philly. I don't think they're going to stay there. I don't know. I totally agree.

I'm like, wait, hold up. Like, I just don't get it. He doesn't have a ton of pass catchers on this team right now. He's still a young player. He's a great athlete. Let's mold that somehow. Let's figure out how to get that together and like package it together. And if you do that, boy, you can have a pretty special player in your hand.

I just feel like Howard Roseman's always looking down the road. And I think Harry Roseman's looking at those draft picks and he's saying, oh, those are shiny. And there's more upside there. Like with Jalen Hertz, you are going to have to work. to get him to where you want him to be. And it's not like you have some stellar defense. I've said this over and over again. If I could zap Jalen Hertz somewhere right now for the good of him

and for maybe the organization is going there anyways. But I would like to see him in like New Orleans, a situation like that where you've got somebody who can just get the absolute most out of him the quickest. And also you have a team built around a guy like that. I think he's there. And I think when the team's developing as an entire roster, it's the same conversation for the quarterback.

it's tough for both to happen at the same time in phase anybody else who's exceeded expectations my bad dude that's all right we've done cordarral you're probably going to say Cooper cup yeah Cooper cuff is is obviously the guy right like he's the top scoring wide receiver he's top scoring asset and all of ppr so yeah no he's absolutely crushed expectations um I think you mentioned Mike Kisicki he's a tight-in three you know and that includes a week one performance where this guy had zero point zero points so since week two and on Dude, this guy has been really, really good. And I expect that to continue on, because he's just continuing to see volume.

Hey man, can I bring up one other guy other than Cordero Patterson, who we all love here? Please. But like James Connor, like what, what is going on? Yeah, I'm so happy for him, dude. I get that older players go to the desert and like, you know, maybe they find their legs. You don't like them.

But bro, James Connor is the RB 11 on the season. And can I throw a stat out there for you guys, man? It just boggles the mind. This dude's got 11 touchdowns on 125 carries or 125 touches. He's averaging a touchdown every 11.4 touches. Ladani and Tomlinson in 2006 during that 31 touchdown campaign, absolute savage, he did it on 404 touches. He was averaging a touchdown every 13 touches.

So James Carter right now. Yeah, this is like Hall of Fame stuff. It's, it's minding. It's mind-boggling. It's bonkers. Which is why you have to give Cliff credit. You know what I mean? I'm not saying.

You know what I mean? Just the thing you just said. You hit the nail on the head. I think this is the best case for, hey, Cliff Kingsbury is better than we thought as a coach. It's true. I've certainly been very hesitant to say anything nice about Cliff Kingsburg. Well, he's getting Ladenian-Thomlinson numbers out of James Conner,

who we like, but he's not, you know, Lidadian-Thomlinson. And I know we can give some credit to Kyler, for sure. But I'm just saying. I think they're firing on all cylinders. It's crazy, bro. I think defensively, they're a hell of a lot better than I was anticipating too. You know what I mean? So, I mean, a couple years ago, there was just an absolute train wreck. And now I think they're a hell of a lot better, man.

So it's really interesting to me. You know, you're right. I've been really, like I said, hesitant to give Cliff some credit. I think you're right. You can tell me I'm dumb. I might be dumb, but I just feel like eventually. Yeah. It could all flip on its head next year and it could be this year.

It could be an aberration. for them. It could be right place, right time. Everybody's just clicking. And we all know those years. But it's pretty amazing what James Conner said. And you mentioned Gisicki. Gisiki. I was talking to Daniel Jeremiah the other day. Shout out. I love Dan. And he's watching Dolphins tape, which like more power to you. But he's like, first off, an interesting point about Giske here, but why are you watching Dolphins tape? He's split out so much. You can barely call him a tight end. You know, like it's pretty interesting the way they take advantage of that determination. It's almost like you could put him in some special category.

Oh, dude, he's a flanker wide receiver. I mean, it's like, you know, they're kicking them out wide. They're bringing them in, you know, into the slide. It's just, dude, listen, it's exactly like Kyle Pitts. Yeah. Kyle Pitts and like, I don't know, like Tim Patrick, they're playing the same position. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

It's like outside flanker, man. We draft two players on a weekly basis. Yep. Add up the points. Keep standings. We're all tied. We're all tied after several weeks. Cowboy Reed,

do you have any specifics on those? Cowboy jumped up. Yeah, well, last week, Chris won the defensive. Nice. This is appropriate,

huh? Yep. It is. It is. There you go. That'll hold me over. Let me shit down my leg this week. For second place by two points.

And everyone is 10 points. So coming down to the kickers. Oh, coming down to the kickers. We can keep doing this forever. Just like football. It's kicker week on the Greenlight Pots. It's like the great British Bake Off.

It's kicker week. Okay. Tell us who we'll be picking first here. I just said, okay. Chris. Yeah, sure. Dude. I didn't,

I did not know this was a GBBO podcast. Oh, I'm in. On this side of the. It's got an acronym and everything. Very much. Are you an anglophile too? I'm not, but my guy,

I love GBBO, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll ride and die with them, Paul Hollywood. Let's go. Yurgan. Yep. All right, Chris is picking fur. All right, James is picking second, you're picking third.

Okay, the kickers. You're right, hold on. I go Justin Tucker. Okay. James is on the clock. I will gladly take Tyler Bass. The Jets, I think defensively have been actually a hell of a lot. Yeah, man, they've been a lot better than you would anticipate.

And I think Buffalo, they're going to score a lot of touchdowns, but I think they will have to settle for some field goals every now and again. Okay, three and four, I'm going way down the list. I'll do Brandon McManus in a field goal crazy game at altitude. Go Broncos. And I will go Young Wai Koo playing indoors in another field goal heavy game. I will take Matt Gay there in L.A. It's taking on San Francisco.

And again, I think San Francisco defensively has been actually better than anticipated, especially in their secondary. They're running like practice squad dudes out there in the secondary. and they're actually not getting burned too bad. So I think there will be a few more field goals in that game. Give me Greg Joseph at the Chargers. I don't know what they're going to do in the run game this weekend. Kind of inside.

Are they inside technically there? It's not they're not inside. You can have lightning delays. It's inside-ish. It's so stupid. Just pick one. Just pick one, guys. This is going to be a fun one.

Yeah. I'm going to track this one. Okay. Live. James, Appreciate you, buddy. Watch over those kickers this weekend. And happy hunting, dude.

Yeah, man. Same to you guys. I'll see you guys next week. Thanks for talking, making out of that shitty trade. See you. Peace.