Green Light with Chris Long - USC & UCLA to the BIG10! Kevin Durant Requests Trade. Most Sensitive NFL Fans. Robot Umpires.

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

(2:25) - Hello and Layup Line. (8:00) - College Football Upheaval: USC and UCLA to the BIG10, SEC and BIG10 Super Conferences and the End of the ACC. (17:25) - Automatic Umpires in the MLB and Celeb Umpires. (32:20) - Kevin Durant Requests Trade and NBA Free Agency. (41:39) - Chris’ Trip to the Movies.  (45:40) - Dr. Fax’s Cameo Account and Green Light’s Only Fans. (58:21) - NFL Most Sensitive Fanbases and Best Sports Rivalries. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tennessee, y'all, 2. 1-800-9-9-7-89. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. A lot happening in the sports world and we're going to do our best to talk about it all. Chris is going to start with the topical hello and layup line. We're going to get into the college football upheaval. Will there be a pack 10 in ACC anymore? What's going to happen to college basketball conferences?

And will the playoff be expanded if we're going to two super conferences? Then we talk automatic umpires in the MLB, Kevin Durant's trade request and the impact of that on NBA free agency, determine the NFL's most sensitive fan bases. Chris recaps his trip to the movies, and Dr. Fax now has a cameo account. That's right. For just a small fee, you can get Dr. Fax to give you a shout out. We put him on the spot for a couple cameo examples, and he did pretty well.

So y'all stick around for all that and enjoy your weekend. Facts, I think I might have a hello and a layup line today. We've been slacking on the hello and the layup line here at the Green Light Pod. Hello, Brooklyn is not the layup line, but it's just the hello, because I'm just checking on Brooklyn basketball fans right now. How's everything going? Did you jump out of the gym the last year and a half, two years? Did you trust that little process?

What do they say in Philly? Trust the process. Yeah, do not trust the process. It's about to get real ugly for Ben Simmons because he's just about to be the punching bag for everything. if KD and Karee find their way out of Brooklyn. Oh my God, he's standing there alone like a kid whose parents just left him in the middle of the mall. You already see the quote of him saying, it's going to be dangerous, me, Kyrie, and KD on the court.

And they did not play one game together the entire time. And our buddy, Randy Scott, was right when Kyrie and Kevin Rand's sign together and everyone was like who's going to stop this and randy scott said probably the guy on the right who was kairie yeah and i don't know what the order was we'll talk we'll talk a little bit more about that uh in a little bit like i jumped out of the gym on a few occasions today with mba free agency i thought this was a whole different thing than what it is we'll sort that out in a second i just want to say something man uh i am a bad producer this has been a crazy day a lot has happened today And we had like a just an all over the place, uh, plan for this show.

And then like everything happened, right? Like so we were up Shits Creek anyways today, but we're having fun. Uh, we're riding the wave. And then USC, uh, and, and UCLA leave. They're going. They're going to the big 10. So that changed the college football landscape. And now the NBA landscape is potentially going to change.

So, uh, layup line is when the shit goes down, you better be ready. That's a cypress hill special. When the shit goes there. played it for me. I like it. Yeah, you like that song. I do. Cypress Hill was a staple in my early teenage years. Really? Yeah, I love Cypress Hill. It explains a lot. Does it? Yeah, a little bit.

Go on. You're a little chaotic. Yeah. You get a little chaotic. No question. No question. Am I chaotic good? Chaotic evil? You know all that, that whole thing, the alignment scale or whatever it is?

You can be honest with me. No, I think you're chaotic good, but it's just like, you're neutral. Like, it depends on what mood you're in. Your chaoticness, it goes with the mood you're in. So, like, you have, like, when you're in a great mood, like, you can get chaotic. Like, let's have, like, let's do, let's have fun. Yeah. But then, like, if you're upset or you're not having a good day, it's like chaotic.

Yeah, I'm going to keep thinking about the worst thing possible. Yeah. and negative negativity. Like you get like that sometimes. Well, that's good. So I'm chaotic, unstable. All right, cool.

Well, yeah, no, we're going to talk about scales and shit because I have an idea. People ask me, listen, we're going to do this in a little bit. People didn't ask me.

I just had to because you're like, you see an opportunity to do some content in mid-June on the NFL. You take it. And there was an index that was tweeted out with relation to who's the most sensitive fan base in college football and the least sensitive fan base in college football and it was really cool because we made Virginia the least sensitive fan base listing

which means that it's a nice way of saying you're apathetic around those parts which means you don't really care for football that much even enough to be sensitive and I think sometimes we were eighth least sensitive which is a good thing now there's a lot of a lot of discussion around the top 10 most sensitive college football fan base, which I think is a really interesting one I would leave up to like Ryan McGee. I haven't been in sports media long enough to deal with every fan base on a national level.

Like when you're a player, you kind of know where it's loudest, you know where people might throw shit at you, but you don't really know like how mad they get about things on the internet. So this is a new experience for me. I will take a stab at categorizing NFL fan bases on a scale of sensitive. in a little bit and I want to give you a preview. I think every NFL fan base is inherently sensitive as fuck. They're sports fans and they're football fans. So there's a macho element there too, which which ups the sensitivity. I think that football fans exist on a sensitivity scale.

You know, I have here a couple of a couple of areas on the sensitivity wheel like Titans fans. They're like new kid sensitive. The Eagles are like self-destructive sensitive. Like Eagles Twitter is self-destructive. They go at each other. The bears, they're like self-loathing sensitive. They're like, we know, we suck. We haven't done anything in a while, that sort of thing.

But they're like, we know, like they're very self-aware. Same thing with the Falcons a little bit. But there's different areas of sensitivity that these fan bases exist on. So I'm not going to rank them, but what I'll talk about is who deserves to actually be sensitive and which fan bases exist where on that. sensitivity wheel. All right, college football. This is the thing that stole the headlines and shook everything up today. Reed, what happened? So, UCA, USC and UCLA are rumored to leave the PAC 12 and join the Big Ten. The Big Ten's media rights deal is up. USC and UCLA by making this move from the PAC 12 to the

Big Ten are rumored to make upwards of $100 million per year in this new media deal. Which is double right. Yeah. Yeah, at least. And it'll be interesting to see USC and UCLA see snow for the first time, see a fullback for the first time, see Iowa play a 10 to 6 game in the Big 10 deep into the season with, you know, Iowa's leading, but then they drop off every year. And then they go to, they have to go to Des Moines and play Iowa 10 to 6. What's funny about this is, you know, like you make a great point. Utah is the team to me that fits the big 10. Exactly.

Like obviously, this is for TV money and that's where this thing's going. I think let's frame this conversation by saying the people, that really know college football tell me that they think for sure within the next little bit of time here we're going to have either two super conferences or one big conference, you know, two

big conferences with 20 teams apiece. It's going to be the SEC and the Big Ten and there was ACC news this week to which we'll talk about in a second but what's happening here is I'm looking at some of these schools Virginia included, our alma mater and I'm saying like the water's

coming like can you swim like that that's kind of where I'm looking at these where are you going to land where are you going to land because I think the scary part you look at this this I was we are going to talk about this ACC like kind of schedule thing for a second which is now it's like each team in the ACC has three teams that they play every year it's a 3-5-5 right

I like our three I like our three too I guess but again it's like kind of talking about the housing market in a city that's going to be underwater in 25 years yes you know what I mean like the water coming. So are you going to be able to swim? Are you going to be able to swim over there to one of these climate protected conferences? And I'm looking at it and I'm saying, man, there's going to be some hard decisions that have to get made. There's going to be a lot of fucking lifelong football fans that are very passionate about their favorite schools

that are going to watch their schools miss the boat and do the jack in Titanic thing. You know, like, can you swim? I'm worried about schools like that I'm used to watching, man. But I mean, if you're talking about the ACC thing, we're talking about the ACC realignment and the possibility of the ACC dissolving eventually. We're going to miss the ACC basketball. We and Reid were talking about that.

Like what happens to ACC basketball? I mean, it was the Big East, you know, when, like, early 2000s to like 2011, 2012. I mean, everyone remembers Kimball Walker going crazy. And then the ACTA. for the past 10-ish years has been the college basketball conference. Probably not the last like two or three, but in there,

they have been known as the college basketball conference. Look at the ACC, and we're zooming out before we zoom in on these two schools in the Pack 12 leaving for the, it doesn't matter what you call it, Pac-12 anymore. Right. They pack it up and leave. Like, let's get going because they're shutting us down.

By the way, I think Washington and Oregon are next, right? I think the teams that would be the most S-E-S-E-E-C'd, C.C-ish are Florida State, right? Miami. And obviously, Clemson. Virginia Tech could make a case. UNC could make a case. I would hope eventually we could make a case. But the reality is the teams that would probably leave first to join one of these super conferences in the ACC would be teams that don't hurt basketball that much. Florida State, although they're really good, like I don't feel like people are clamoring to watch Florida. state. Clemson can be their variable, but like Clemson's not a basketball school.

Same thing with, well, Miami's good. They're really good. But the thing about Miami is not even an ACC school originally, big, big east school. So like, it's a mess. I don't know who's who. I don't know who's going to end up where, but I have a feeling I know who's going to be safe. You know, those type of schools are going to be safe. Would you rather see UVA end up in the big 10 or

the SEC if we're to resolve. Put us in the Big Ten, man. If Maryland can be in the Big Ten, we can be in the Big Ten. Now, I know there's some like real reasoning why that hasn't happened already or whatever, but yeah, I'd probably rather us be in the Big Ten. I really would.

SEC, you're never going to break into that mafia. Right. They're just, it's a big boy conference. And I think, you know, I think USC and and UCLA make a lot of sense culturally in the Big Ten in a weird way.

They're like very traditional. You know what I mean? I think from the ACC, the school that's most Big Ten ready is Pitt. Like from a physicality standpoint and kind of what they do. They play that. Yeah. They'd fit right in. Now, as team. Fullbacks and snow. Yeah.

Fuck yeah, dude. And all that shit. 13 to seven wins. Yes. And they're one of the few teams left that haven't opted to go to field turf. Right. I mean, that shitty grass at Heinsfield is like slows that game down up there. You watch yourself on film at Heinz Field. You're like, God damn, dude, how many speed points are losing Madden this offseason? I played there in the preseason once and I had to go back to the room and I had like a breakdown. I was like, man, I'm so slow. Yeah, football is slower in the Big Ten.

What do you think about UNC and Duke? I don't know. I don't know the basketball implications, like what that can do for a school, like what they could bring to the table for one of these conferences. but in football, I think UNC has a better shot right now. If teams leave the ACC, I think you're looking at CINC, UCF, right? Those are the schools people are throwing around. I think they make sense. Like, you know, area and can replace some of the ones that would leave.

Now, it'll be interesting to see what we're talking about, you know, kind of basketball as a secondary. How does this move impact basketball and even all the big support programs at USC and UCLA. I mean, it's enough travel for the football program to get to these big 10 schools. I mean, these basketball teams are going to have to go on. It'll be like an NBA thing. You know, they'll have multiple road trips traveling cross country similar to an NBA team.

Yeah. I mean, you're USC, you're going to fly all the way to the midway and then you have to fly over here and fly, you know. It's fucked. I mean, there's a lot of fucking, there's a lot of frequent flyer miles here. And the funny, the funniest thing was that, uh, the ones. the one sport that's not making the trip to the big 10 is like beach volleyball. Right. So that makes a lot of.

Right. Right. Yeah. How many. But yeah, I think I think if you're honest, though, like conference identity has been dead for a while, at least terminal. Like, you know, you know, this thing's going to die. Right.

You know, the inevitability of this stuff dissolving when Texas and Oklahoma, you know, blended into the SEC, you know, it's over. Right. So. And it'll be interesting. to see how it affects the college football playoff with this force and expansion because you have so many teams

in these two massive conferences how can you pick two at the top you know guys teams are probably going to have two or three losses because it's going to be hard enough playing you know tough competition week and week out and getting those wins so an expansion seems likely in the next couple years I think

it's kind of hype if I'm being bright side guy to like turn on the TV at a reasonable hour right and see USC with regular to get the buzz around a UCLA game. I mean, I don't know, buzz is a, but Oregon, you know, U-Dub, I mean, there's some good football going on out there that like you're either asleep or drunk at the bar for.

Right, exactly. And it might make the Big Ten the best basketball conference in the country, too. That's interesting. When you had those two teams, those are pretty good teams. Yeah, hell yeah. But it's ultimately like it's the power of Fox and TV, you know, know this is the Fox side of things and the SEC side you have that competition over there but fox is going for it and these teams follow the money man like this is not amateurism anymore so

right listen you want the players to get paid the conferences are going to go away to and so the pack 12's media rights deal their their television contract expires after this after the 2023 football season. So that is the USC and UCLA is aligning their movement from the conference with that deal so it won't affect them. It won't cost them anything.

They'll be able to join a new conference with the PAC 12th television deal dissolving. Dude, it's so fucking coordinated. I would love to be a part of the shadowy conversations. Fly on the wall here. The shadowy conversations

that are three steps ahead of where we are. like the puppet masters here. Like what's going to be going on in 2035? Like tell me exactly. Somebody knows, dude. Oh, automatic umpires, Cowboy. So Rob Manfred said that automated strike zone

will likely be introduced to the MOB in 2024. Yes. Are we happy that people like Bruce Maxa might not have a job anymore? Bruce Maxa, man. Bruce Maxa. Guy called me out in little, league missed home plate that's what he said so glad you remember his name read yeah and nothing

against bruce but you know uh this is karma it's not like uh it's not like a you know me ever being mean to bruce maxa or like i see bruce maxa from time to time very nice to bruce maxa but the downside of doing that 25 years ago when i hit my first home run in little league is that I'm going to talk about you negatively in that light on the podcast. You didn't hit the, you didn't touch the home plate. That's what he said. Oh, you definitely did.

You were trying to showboat. No, I wasn't trying to show boat. Bro, I'm a goofy, 11-year-old white kid, bro. I'm just gangly and happy. I'm out there running looking like Forrest Gump without the fucking,

yeah, dude. Yeah. He probably couldn't wait to do that. No, dude. There's no video evidence. Bro, it was like the video would be so grainy. It was 19906.

I haven't seen the video. You would side with Bruce Max. I am side of him with Bruce. Just the way you're explaining this, because if you hit a home run, there's some tape, there's some footage of that out there. There's not, dude.

Why not? I hit it with a dead bat. My parents didn't even know the bat was dead. I didn't even have like a live bat. There's no video evidence of this. This was like 1996, man. How old do you think I am? You think I was in high school in 96?

So, so anyways. and to like to clear this up my parents were like super involved my dad was coaching so like he wasn't holding a camcorder my mom she used to like ring these bells during the games and shit she didn't have a free hand for a camcorder that was on somebody else's dad so i don't have the video evidence but what i will tell you nate is that i was i was mobbed by my teammates they were happy for me because i was so pathetic i was like a success story it was like one of those mobbing so did they mob you before the plate or after the place? See, maybe the mobbing

caused you to miss the plate. Well, I was I was alarmingly tall and lanky and skinny so like maybe I couldn't control my body, but more than likely I stepped on the plate but what are we litigating here? Yeah, it's not on a parent or someone in the fans to have that video evidence. It's

on the guy closest, well I guess third closest after the batter and the catcher, the umpire he should know and in this case so if you think that like I would think that he distinctly seen Chris not touched the plate to really call him out during the home run.

I want a robot umpire that can go back in time. Thank you Rob Manfred and Elon Musk and all the people that are working hard to make these robot umpires. I want one that can go back in time and call me safe and restore order. So does that

mean chips and baseballs? No. For like the umpires? No because they can still they still track. So basically they'll be like an umpired home player or whatever but they still have like the automated like you see you'll watch a broadcast and they have like the automated strikes zone and they can see where the ball that's what and i just have like a a strike zone for all you know at all games and they're all

all the same rather than like you know angel hernandez is different than the whatever the umpire in the pirates game etc etc well the thing that's pressing this is obviously the fact that we have that at all right exactly like the minute they can tell if it's a ball or a strike at some point you're not going I want the people at home to be able to call the game better than Angel Hernandez. Right. And it's caused objections this year. It's been really like, it's been a bad year for umpiring. I mean, I'm sure like every year there's, you know, I don't watch all the games,

but we've talked about it a lot. And, uh, they're doing things like putting ghost runners on second base. They're doing things like, uh, I believe with relief pitchers, you have to, to throw three outs or the remainder of the inning. So we're not doing all these, these changes and like three pitches. and then someone else. Yeah. So they were trying to speed the game up anyways.

Now this technology is here and you can cut out some of the bullshit. Now the one thing I'll say is I did read, it only spent the game up five minutes on average so far this year. So like all this stuff they're doing is not really solving the problem. I think the robot umps were inevitable. A lot of what we're talking about on today's show is the inevitability of like the future in sports. That's right. I mean, when you think about it,

It's crazy. What we just talked about with college football, what's going on now? It's like, kiss your traditions goodbye. You really have to, as a sports fan in this era, be okay with letting things that are superficial,

largely superficial, like an umpire, we don't need that guy to call balls and strikes. They're still going to have old school lumps out there. You miss the conferences. Like, well, you better like the actual game being played

because some of the customs are going away. It's about the game. now and speeding it up and making it more marketable. When are we going to get a floating platform? What do you mean? Or like play like a pro game or like a college game like on a plane or well they've done a they've done a shit. They're speaking facts right now.

Aircraft carrier. Huh? They've done it on an aircraft carrier. Yeah. Not a sky. Not a sky. Yeah, exactly. Something like a hovering.

That's what they have been. There's a hotel they're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. They'll probably play it at that. That would be sweet. There's like a big airplane. Oh yeah.

You know a sole plane? You seen Soulplane? So basically they're going to make that same airplane. But like traveling hotels. A bunch of white guys that work at Amazon. So that's less fun than. Right. So the thing about doing media for that, being at a basketball game in the air.

Yeah, I think that if they do that hotel, that's going to be where they're going to do your basketball game. For sure. For sure. Like that's what it's going to be. And really what that is is a way of telling us that none of the super conference shit really matters because the world's going to be ending soon. and that's why they're they're prepping for these like luxury hotels that just kind of can stay up in the air a while. Yep. And they just want us, they want to give us an idea or a reason to like kind of keep our eyes on it, but not think that it's for anything like the end of the world. Exactly. Hey, this is, we're going to play some basketball. Exactly. It's like we're testing out these new sirens in London.

Right. Right. And whatever it was. They're not for anything bad. We just want to see if you can hear them. Right. You know what I mean? How do they sound? How do you want this kind of say? them over here? What do you think about this Sky Hotel? So that's where you're, to answer your question. We'll get back to that in a second, but I,

it is crazy. Everything that's ever been taken away in sports, I feel like at some point I thought I couldn't do without it, you know? That's right. Right down to that fucking puck tracer from the 90s. I thought I was never going to watch hockey again. But I mean like the really traditional shit.

You know, um, when Maryland, left the ACC, I was like, I hate Maryland, but they're not supposed to be gone. You know, like, there's... They're just supposed to be around.

You know, Texas, Oklahoma. I didn't even forgot what conference they were in. You become desensitized to it. And as you grow up, and the traditions get stripped away, they get replaced by the most important tradition of them all, gambling. So, like, I'll be fine.

It doesn't matter. And we talked about some things we'll miss, but, um, zooming back in on baseball. It's more about, I think, just the efficiency of the game. You know, that's so many calls. In the accuracy. The accuracy.

Like, that's what everyone's saying. There's these calls that just turn literal wins into losses, losses into wins. Yeah. And affect the, you know, the full outcome. And you see these videos on a line all the time. It just like seems like every single night. There's like a new video of an umpire like, oh, that ball is out. But they're just calling it a strike.

And then the pitcher freaks out or the batter freaks out. and then he gets booted. You put these umpires in bad spots. Like it's a hard job. I don't think any of them are fucking up on purpose. And I, you know, like although they seem terrible at their jobs sometimes,

like I'm sure they're the best in the world. And that's, that just says how hard it is, especially with the movement on the ball today. Right. So like the movement on the baseball that these pitchers are producing, like probably makes it really hard to call balls and strikes. And,

and couple that with the fact that the ball's coming in faster now than ever. Tennessee had a guy thrown 106 and the college, World Series. You know, there's multiple Billy Wagners out there. Right. And I don't mean that as any disrespect to Billy Wagner, who's an Almar County resident. I mean, like, now there's guys who can throw the ball really fucking hard. And on top of it, we said it.

It's undue pressure to put on umpires. People sitting at home knowing the calls better than them. They're putting these guys in a bad spot. So I think you still need them for, you know, your first base calls, you know, like you're, you know, safe, all that stuff. Fair foul. though you probably don't need them for fair foul. But what you could do, and I hope this is the case read,

is keep these umpires behind the plate to, to, you know, kind of let them be the messengers of balls and strikes. So you still get the old school look, the feel. Exactly. And they'll still do the, yeah, hey, listen, simplify the game so they can just make it about them more easily. You know, like if you're an umpire, you don't want to think about how to make it about you

and if it was a ball and a strike at the same time. Just you want the call so you can do your, thing. And that's what the fans want too. That's right. And pilots used to be like this. Pilots, here's the thing about pilots. They barely fly fucking planes anymore. No offense pilots. I see you guys up there. You're going to the bathroom and shit. Okay? It's the same thing with umpires now. Umpires are there largely to, you know, keep order, talk shit to umpires, make SportsCenter that way. Um, pilots are there just to run the

computers and run the computers, hand out wings to the kids. It's still cool to be a pilot. but it's still cool to be an umpire. Right. Less coaches getting thrown out then. Like less things to argue about, right? Like, I mean, safe and, that's true. Safe and out. But like, like we're just talking about,

most of the arguments you see the coaches coming out, it has to do with umpire making multiple bad calls or, hey, the strike zones, not the same for my guys. Like, what's going on? What do you think's going to replace, you know, the things that you could get mad about? That's what I'm saying. So, like, as a coach, you can't, like,

if it's, robots can you get can you can you you you can you you can you can you can you can you can't you can't get yeah yeah if the robot if you feel like the robot hey this isn't a strike yeah yeah bruce bocci's like let me speak to the robot like you don't you don't think that's crazy though to think that no but what they will fight about is little little much english on that strike call there you didn't have so much english on it for the guy you know what I mean like it's going to be all the insufferable like nuanced unwritten rule stuff that they're going to fight over but they'll still fight over stuff.

That's part of baseball. Part of baseball. I'll miss that. We need to manufacture some conflict for these umpires and the, you know, and the managers. So a bigger question, do the umpires, do the live umpires get paid less now? I don't think they should. I mean, there's still a representative. They're still sitting behind the plate.

But that's a big aspect of the game. Yeah. That's a big aspect of the game of calling, ball. balls or strikes is part of your job resume. If you don't have to do that. But you think you want to take money? Because they're feeling probably emasculated. They're like, oh, we're back here.

We're not doing anything anymore. You want to take more money away? Because then they won't even do like a cool hoo-wah. Yeah. You could pay, listen, you could do like tryouts in the streets. True. Call the best balls and strikes. Because that's really what it's about now.

It's also about the rules and everything. But God knows, these, all these people know the fucking rules. You go to a baseball game. Everybody's got their little sheet. They're throwing out and stuff. The whole thing. Yeah, the only way baseball is going to be interested in,

if they do, like, what that minor league team does, is a fan of bananas or whatever they are. If they do interesting things like that, then I would buy season tickets to be all. Bring back 50 cents or five cent beer night. No, so, like, minor leagues are great and all that. But I'm just saying, now you could just basically pluck a fucking fan out of the stands to be.

you could have like a B an umpire night That'd be cool You could have guest umpires Like mass singer Mast umpire That would be awesome Mast umpire Joe Buck

Joe Buck everybody booed You know Everybody cheered it The fucking thing But since it No what if Joe Buck You have Joe Buck At Bush Stadium

At the Cardinal Stadium In baseball heaven Does a whole fucking game Joe Buck Ted TB Ted TB Ted Valentine Ted Valentine Yeah

That'd be great. He would just walk on the field and kick someone out. Have Rusty, the guy that drinks a bunch of beers. Like seven people are like, yes. That guy's drunk, dude. Just have random celebrities, man. There's so many games. This could bring baseball back.

They don't realize what they've stumbled into. They've created a loophole. It's become reality TV now. Yep. Sorry, Angel Hernandez. There's someone cooler. We're going to have a call. Yeah, dude, Chris Angel.

Yes. The way he fucking repelled onto the NFL draft the way he dropped, he fell to the second round. When Chris Angel felt it, he'll fall down to home plate, dude. After every call, he just rappels down and you wait and you wait and then he goes, oh my God, and then he repels back up. Six-hour game, dude, but everybody would be tuned to fucking... Tuned in.

And the next day, didn't you hear what Chris Angel did? You didn't hear, you saw him go, hoo-ah. Oh my God, Reed. That's really good, because know what it opens it to? Just like we were talking about, you can get a trained animal back there to do it. Oh my God. This might be a bridge too far. Just really spice it up.

This could be a bridge too far. Hey, just really spice it up. You can train, yeah, yeah, yeah. Balls and strikes. You have a dog back there. Hey, lay down when it's a strike or do a little backflip when it's a ball. Like, hey, it'd be lit.

I think it might be too far, man. I think it might be too far. The famous people doing it. That's good. Famous people are famous people or just someone from the stands. John C. Riley calling balls and strikes all night. Dressed as from winning, time.

Freddie Gibbs calling balls and strikes all night. Freddy Gibbs throwing motherfuckers out, dude. You're going. Yes, dude. Freddie Gibbs throwing people out and taking the Twitter afterwards. Yeah, I just threw somebody out of a game. This is awesome, dude. We've opened up another dimension.

Listen, the KD thing's crazy. We thought Kyrie road less traveled. I was like, dude, you opted in. Like this is not a yellow two roads diverging a yellow wood situation, dude. But he went with the quote and I guess maybe he was playing chess. And I'm a checkers looking ass. Dude. Right.

He could have been talking to Katie on the side and hey, look, I'm going to jump back in. I'm going to sign and then you're going to say, I'm going to get traded. And then I'm going to say we want to get traded together. Dude, because yeah, he has more leverage. I mean, yeah. Now Kyrie has a leverage. Matt, you're the NBA. You're Doris Burke.

So tell us. Oh, that's a nice compliment. I, dude, I don't know. It's crazy that KD wants to get traded right now. He's got like four years left on his contract. He's got so much value. I don't really know what to make of the KD of the Kyrie element to it. Like, there's kind of no way to trade two max players to the same team together.

So that kind of feels like I'm just making it look like, oh, yeah, we're cool with each other. We'd like to play together somewhere. but really if KD's asking to be traded, like... So you think Kyrie and him were... They didn't do this together, you know, for the same motivation, but this is like a, hey, let's keep it in-house. That's your theory. I feel like as soon as KDS to be traded,

it looked like step one, Kyrie opts in. Step two, KDS to be traded. Optically, that looks really bad for their relationship. So now they're like, oh, yeah, We'd love to play together, even though they know that's not a real possibility. Like what KD is doing is he's trying to engineer a trade to likely Phoenix or maybe a dark horse like New Orleans or Memphis, a team that could win the title. Crazy. Crazy. Okay. So the teams I hear Phoenix, Miami and Phoenix. Miami and Phoenix. Yeah. Which is interesting because who are the two number one seeds from the most recent playoffs.

Yeah. Yeah. And also, I mean, I would say both teams. were in need of scoring at different times during the playoffs. Like especially Miami, Matt, am I misremembering? But I thought Miami really got kind of cold at the end of the time. If Jimmy wasn't scoring, it was hard to get any buckets and stretches. If you add him to Miami, they're a clear favorite. But the question is, what do they trade for him? Like, they don't have the draft capital that a bunch of other teams have.

You'd have to give up what Jimmy Butler, Tyler, Tyler, a bunch of things. Like, that would destroy their core, whereas Phoenix could just, sign and trade eight and give up the whole all of your draft capital and that might make sense there was a story that i just said that that then the sons or the nets are not trading kd to the sons without booker being involved in the trade so i think that right there like i don't think the sons are are thinking about giving up booker i don't sound like any report yeah it doesn't sound like he's going anywhere that um where he wouldn't be the bus driver you know like that whole

conversation which I think is dumb because he was the bus driver at Golden State I mean like even those guys would say but you know like I get maybe part of him wants to be the guy and win somewhere and also man Brooklyn like this is just an all time

there's people that acted like they they had a good reason to root for the nets they made up these whole like justifications to be a fair weather fan left their old team you left your old chick for the new chick, and the new chick just slashed your tires,

took your money, and left, dude. Like, if you left your, your old team for your side team here, you're a fool. And look at you now. Look at you now. Now you gotta act like you, you gotta act like you like the,

I don't know, the Pacers or whatever. One thing they can hang their hat on still that can turn this whole thing around is once Ben Simmons get activated, he's just he's just scoring 40 a night yeah this could be Ben say yeah Ben Simmons that would be uh that would be quite the Phoenix out of the ashes kind of such he would definitely get a Phoenix tattoo because he's like it seems like everyone's trying to get away from him that's what it like ultimately seems like you think this has to do with Ben Simmons Matt maybe a little tiny bit

just that KD wants out of the situation but I mean like I I wouldn't trust playing with Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving if I wanted to win a title. Bro, I mean, he engineered a trade to Brooklyn not that long ago, like two years ago. And now he's engineering a trade out. It's pretty clear that the relationships with the other players and or the coaches there aren't working. You know, and like he is maybe the best player in the world, definitely a top three player in the world. So like, whatever team he goes to is a favorite to win the title. And if I'm New Orleans, I'm trading Zion for him.

No chance he goes to the Knicks, is there? No, no. They signed Jalen Brunson today to a $110 million contract. Which I'm happy about. Okay, I'm happy about. I love Jailen Brunson and everything. But that, fuck, that roster is not going to win the East.

Right? I just saw a lot of money. Yeah, but you know, I feel like the Knicks right now, it's all about in the NBA, it's funny. It's all about in the NBA now like keeping the seat warm for somebody just in case they get unhappy and you look around like these guys are auditioning.

Like the Knicks are auditioning. You know, they're trying to win games, but the big play is like just in case fucking who is it. Donovan Mitchell wants to jump ship. You know, like, oh, they got some pieces there. It's a weird thing in the NBA, not just to be on a team,

but also like, if you're Joe Harris and you're in Brooklyn, what are you thinking? You're like, God damn, dude, this has been a whirlwind. I don't even know like who we are. You're thinking you're about to average 20 points a game. Exactly.

There's no be on your team. Well, yeah, but it goes from like, hey, we might win a title to, wow, this is going to be rough, but I'm going to be doing numbers. Yep. It's just the swing of emotions is huge. It's much bigger now in basketball. These guys are fucking, they really are, they are making moves, dude. And we'll see. And the funny thing is, like, the Nets could choose not to trade.

and they end up like still being there, right? I mean, they could, but Carrie and Katie still have to report like they could hold out, I think. Yeah, they'll definitely trade them. I think the sons are definitely the favorites in the clubhouse, but I would love to see a team like Minnesota, Memphis, or New Orleans, just empty the cupboard and go for it all. Like, LeBron is older. Bucks aren't amazing. Like, just go for it.

What would you say, what would you say that have to, would Anthony have to, would, would Anthony Edwards have to go? By the way, who throws a beautiful football. That's a deep ball right there. Without even touching the laces. Did you notice that? It was freakish, really. There's some quarterbacks that, yeah, with the laces and everything.

I mean, you got to give up four first round picks and three pick swaps at minimum to start, which is the maximum that you're allowed to give up in terms of draft capital. And then at least one good player. But maybe not, maybe not Anthony Edwards. Yeah, that's the thing. like I would love to play with Anthony Edwards. He's funny as shit, dude. How do you feel?

How do you feel if you're one of these players just like a blockbuster deal is probably inevitable about to go down? Dude, you just, yeah. And like I can very well be wrapped up in here. I have to find a new favorite spot to eat. I have to freaking get my cars transferred. I have to worry about travel, moving, all this stuff. Hey, dude, Nate, that's a great point.

I think this stuff is bad for mental health. in the NBA because like if you don't know where you're going to be living and now it's this this this is equivalent to the last couple of days of camp yeah like make the last 52 3 bm8 they're just it's it's the same uncertainty in the penthouse yeah like you know what i mean like the guy you know so um anyways crazy man if you're here in arizona colorado indiana louisiana michigan New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or right here in Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBed app yet. I have great news for you.

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gambling problem in Arizona called 1-800 Next Step in Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia call 1-800-Gambler, and in Michigan, 1-800-7-1-17. Tennessee, y'all too, 1-8009-9-9-7-8-9. A bad thing happened to me the other night. I felt really small. I felt really alone and really small. So my wife and my kids were out of town, and I love that usually, not because I don't love my family, but it's nice to have like a quiet house, like to really sit in silence and do nothing. Uh, and then, you know, have the option of go out to dinner, go to the movies. Don't have to, but I could. I decided to go to the movies, right? Like, alone, which I'm not against first. Is that a code break going to the movies alone? Oh, I don't think so. That's, no, yeah. I mean,

sometimes, sometimes it can be a stress reliever you need to go get out of the house. I mean, look at Paul Rudd. I want to see Spider-Man too. That's right. That's right. Right. And Paul Rudd did, that's right. Paul Rudd went alone and she got mad. Yeah, but I always sided with Paul Rudd. Agreed. Solo moviegoer. I'm a solo dinner guy. I love to go to the bar and get a dinner at the bar. I'm a big solo dinner. Yeah. So like there's nothing wrong with it. Movies a little awkward. Well, some people might think you're like maybe like a serial killer type guy. I feel like it gets awkward if the movie ends up being somewhat packed because it's just the seating arrangement. It's just like, dude, what are you doing here by? Yeah, the girl never comes back from the bathroom.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Girl had to go to the bathroom, never showed up. Like, is this seat taken or not? So, yeah. But it does give you, like, a guaranteed buffer. Nobody's going to come in and sit next to the guy who's alone at the movie theater. It's probably true.

Exactly. So anyways, that's not the sad part at all. Like, I love going to the movies alone. Like, but the sad part is, and you know me, I don't really, like, dress up a lot. But I was like, you know what? I'm going to take a shower, put on some khaki shorts. motherfucker left the house in khaki shorts. I had a rowback hoodie.

Shout out to rowback. It's like mint. I found a pair of sneakers, not converse, like Nike's with like cool colors and like kind of color coordinated for who? I don't know. My car heart hat matched my shoes kind of. It was kind of lame. But I leave the house all happy and shit.

I'm driving down the road excited to go to the movies. I'm going to a 9.30 showing of a movie. Everything everywhere all at once. have you heard about this? I have. Yeah. And I won a way. My brother was hyping it up to me the other day.

I'm saying that's a really, really good movie. So I'll tell you about that movie. I'm going to the movies. I'm excited. I start punching and looking for the link to the movie. The movie's fucking sold out. So I not only got dressed to the movies.

I put on Cologne to go to the movies. Like nobody's like, why did I put on Cologne? Like I'm not only am I married. like I just felt like I was in the mood you know you're ever in the mood to just like go do something and get out of the house that was me and it was sold

out I think I'm the first guy who went to the movies like it was 1997 since like 1997 because that's how you used to be able to go to the movies you could just roll up and just buy a ticket you can't do that anymore you gotta get online yeah you gotta buy why don't you buy a ticket early I don't know dude I don't know but I didn't see the movie so I wish I had a review for you

but I actually went to the movies and the movie was sold out. Did you still go see another movie or is it? I went home. You went home? And the worst part was when I got to the movies, I took a bunch of edibles because I was going to go to the movies. And then I'm just sitting at home eating a fucking watermelon in my kitchen alone.

Like an hour later. I was supposed to be in a movie. I'm eating watermelon and a whole box of wheat thins. Like that's what I'm doing with my night with the hearings, the January 6 hearings echoing in the background. Wheat thins are an elite like high mom. that you can get lost you can that's one of those munchies that you can eat you can look down and be like I ate this whole box fuck yeah dude oh yeah dude wash that shit down with like a soda

wheat thin yeah salt in the sweet yeah yeah dude I love wheat thins when I came in today I heard like I overheard you talking that you were having trouble finding sometime finding guests for the show right yeah you so I might I might have a solution for you What's that? Have you ever heard of cameo? Yes, I have heard a cameo, bro. I have heard of cameo. So your boy, Dr. Fax has just joined Cameo.

Oh, my God. Fax hit me up the other day and he was like, hey, can I come to the studio? I was like, yeah, no problem. When you want to record, he came in and he was like, I want to do a, I've got a cameo video. Bro, do we get a cut of those cameo? Yeah, sorry. I totally just, by bad. He's in the studio recording cameos.

Dang. Dang. Yeah, man. That's incredible. I mean, like, it's, you know, it's very, it's, it's shrewd, you know? It's an 18 second video. Yeah. So, what are you charging?

That's what I was going to ask you. What do you? This is like a personal thing. So, so, so what do, what do you think is a reasonable price I should charge to start? You. Hmm. Facts. Because right now.

right now I have enlisted at $40. $40. Yeah. And you've been on cameo before. You've gotten some people. I have. Do you remember what you paid? I don't remember what I paid. Damn, I would love to get you.

But you know what? Like, but I don't think you're going to be able to just turn down the $40, man. So here's the deal. I'll get on cameo and just fuck with guys I know in the league and get them to record these really funny aco taco like cameos like I had Lagart Blunt wishing an iguana a happy birthday he's the world record holding

iguana for age also known as the oldest iguana okay so I got Lagart Blunt he put on a Patriot shirt I had to pay like a hundred something dollars oh my god that's hilarious and and he's by the pool wishing Pablo my pet iguana a happy birthday so yeah I had

Kurt Benkirt. You remember Kurt Benkirt? Yes, I do. Kurt Benkirt. He's a pro video game player. Yeah. Yeah, and he's awesome, man. Shout out to Kurt Benkirt. Oh, Kurt.

Why, who are? But he's an NFL quarterback, and I had him wishing somebody a happy honeymoon that they were going to the Hall of Fame for six days, seven nights to Canton. And basically, I had Kurt Benkirt proposed for a guy. And he was proposing and asking Brenda, I believe, to marry. uh him and he asked kurt ben kurt to do it he's a big falcons fan wow well this is when he was on the falcons if any fans out there want something like that it's at dr fax on cameo hit me up this is good okay this is really this is good i thought you would like using the studio to make money

using the pod gets an ecosystem of money getting paid to use the studio to to make money Hey man, you gotta, you gotta try to work things out. You're my hero. You are my fucking hero. Okay, so 18 seconds. What's 18 seconds going to give me? I'm gonna think of some. No, no, that's all I was saying.

That's all I used. 18 seconds of recording time. He did like a little intro video. I just did my landing video. That's it. Okay, okay. Okay, so you might be able to get 30 seconds for $40. At least like a dollar.

Oh, I don't know how. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. It's just for, that's for a short video. Okay. But on there, I have like for like companies, you can do some longer ones. Companies and things like that, there's a different tier. That's like, oh, that's going to cost you.

You basically have an only fans, huh? It's a cameo. It's not only fans. Yeah, but there's like some paywall behind like the standard cameo? No, it's just different tiers. Like you can do different things. Okay, okay. So it's just like, yeah, yeah.

Like companies or brands, there's a different price. Okay. Rather than like personal, like happy birthday. How much for like a footpick, like on Cameo, bro. It sounds like a damn. I don't think. I don't think it's for that. It sounds sketchy.

This doesn't sound like cameo. Are you sure you're on cameo? Are you on, can you check and look at the URL and see if it says plenty of fish? What is plenty of fish? I feel like that's something sexual. That's the dating app. Yeah.

Yeah. What is that? I think it's a plenty of fish.com. Is it a dating app? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, farmers only. Farmers only.

Yeah. Match.com. Okay. So, all right. I'm going to think about like, all right, Reid, let's think about what we want a cameo for something. So we're going to pitch him a cameo. And you're going to show everybody, since you want to, you know, since you want to advertise, here's the bulletin board.

This is what you're going to get from Nate Collins on cameo. Okay. Nate, my husband is going to die. He loves the bears. Go. Oh, God. No, you have to give more information. Okay, he's, he's, he's gone.

Terry's gone now. Okay. There's one cameo that didn't. No. Ben, you're dead. You didn't get enough information. No one's just going to send. You have to say what you want.

My husband's dying. But what am I saying to Terry? I don't have time to type it out in the little box. Is she saying, nine words? Is she saying goodbye to Terry? Is she saying Terry like? Okay, Terry's a big Bears fan. Bears great Nate Collins.

Terry's on his deathbed. He's a bear's fan. It's getting cold in the room, dude. Chop. The light is dimming. I've seen the lightning button next to your name on there. You usually respond within three hours. So like, let's go.

What's up, Terry? Snake Collins, former Chicago bear. And I just wanted to say to you, I haven't thought about death. I haven't thought about, I haven't thought about, I haven't thought. What do you say to someone who's about to die? You've lived a great life.

We're excited to, we're excited. You guys, I would never solicit y'all for a cameo in the event that someone I know is dying. You've lived a great life. I'm sorry that I'm only able to be here at the end. I wish I could have seen more of your life. See, this is good. I'm actually glad that you did this so I could think about it. But you never think about when someone's about to die.

It's always condolences after. So I don't really know what to say. I'll say like, this is a motherfucker, huh? that's what I said at the movies after the movie was sold out dude I just stood there I swear to God I just made noises like hmm and this is a motherfucker

hmm like I was waiting for somebody to come to the rescue dude that's the same thing with death dude like it's inevitable like it's over someone on the mall was like man Chris Long is standing outside the movie theater saying this is a motherfucker oh my god I was just like sitting there swaying back and forth there was nobody at the

desk like to tell me that no there's no way to buy a ticket like there Like the guy was upstairs. No robot. Yeah. It's America right now. Yeah. I got to book another cameo.

My son doesn't know how to swim. He saw you jump in the river that one time, Nate. What's the first thing? You encourage him and remind him. My son, he's Pritchard. He's one year old. Hey, Pritchard, I just want to tell you, don't be afraid of that water. Get out there and face your fears.

Jump in that water and learn to swim. Take your watch off. Okay. Tell him to take his watch. Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't worry. He doesn't have an Apple Watch because if you read the description, he's one year old, you just killed my son.

No, I didn't. Yeah, he jumped in the water because he was one year old. Honestly, that's on the dad. The parents have to be around. I'm trying to see if he was safe. He's not safe. See? Oh, he's safe?

No, no, he's safe. Encourage my son to jump in the water. It's fair to assume that the parents are there to catch them in the water. It's a year old. His cameos live. One more time. What is it? At Dr. Fax.

At Dr. F-A-X. Okay. Reed, give him one more. Off the dome. Dr. Fax, my girlfriend, Soraya, doesn't... She's a Packers fan. C-I-R-A-H-H-H-H-H.

Soraya. She's a Packers fan. She hates the Bears. Tell her why she should like the Bears. What's so appealing about the Bears? Hey, Soraya. This is Nate. Collins former Chicago bear and I just want to say no one likes stinky cheese get out of

Green Bay that's good and come over to the Chicago Bears bear down damn that's good yeah this guy's good make it we've improved make it 45 dollars yeah okay how about this one hey Nate my name is Sandy I'm thinking about abducting a turtle from my favorite river and domesticating it where it will die a lonely death in a fish tank in Connecticut, what would Nate Collins, a former NFL player, do? Hey, Sandy, if you want to rescue that turtle,

you should go out there and rescue that turtle, Sandy. I bet you would, Phantom Rred. God damn, Nate, you're killing it. You're killing it, bro. I mean, at the end of the day, what do you think I could fetch on Cameo? At least $47. No, but tell.

You know, it makes more than him? That's fucked up. Will you get an only fans, bro? Not because I don't want to consume the content, but that would be good for the marketing of this show, dude. One of the podcasters has an only fans. Do you really mean that? Yeah, dude, I'll fund it.

All right, cool. What do I have to do, like, funding-wise? Not I don't want to be a part of any of the content. Okay, I'm just saying. You can find me talent. I just got to get you out. Okay. All right.

Hold on a second here. So I got, oh, this is my favorite one. This is Dean Blandino. He's the head of officiating. Hey, Melissa, this is Dean Blondino from Fox Sports. And this is a message from Jay. And he told me that you guys broke up. And I know relationships are hard sometimes.

But it sounds like things are getting better. And I just wanted to say, Melissa, that the ruling on the field of the breakup has been overturned. And after further review, You guys are getting back together. Come home. Big Jay loves you. Come home. Big Jay loves you.

So anyways, yeah, Dean Blandino fell for my shit. I got him. And then this is Trey Flowers. I told Trey Flowers that my kid was having a problem shitting his pants

before football games. So I wrote I wrote Trey Flowers, who's my former teammate and I told him to like cheer my son up Zachariah it sounds like a fucking kid that would get a video on cameo from a football player what's up Zachariah Trey flowers here from the Lions listen man we all get a little nervous sometimes man I remember my first high school game it was coming from the back end not the front end you feel me but you know it's uh once I got all the nerves out and I realized that you know it's you know

still just a game. You know, I went out and had myself a good game. There's actually some guys who, you know, make it part of their pregame routine just to, you know, get the nerves out, you know, get that off their stomach, and then they go out there and have themselves a good game. So, you know, it's all part of it. And I just want to wish you luck on the season

and go out there and dominate. Now, Trey Flowers did not have to answer that cameo, dude. He does not need the money. Like, I can guarantee you he doesn't need the money. the money. But he's a good guy. He answered the cameo and he went above and beyond volunteering. Not only that when he was really young, I guess he maybe he got diarrhea because he was nervous when he but then also not up the front but the back end. And then also he volunteered that basically, and this is the truth in an NFL locker room, it's like bombs away in there before games. If you walk through

a certain area like it's just it sounds like. It sounds like. It sounds like. It sounds like. It sounds like. like the acoustics, like Woodwinds playing, like the sensitive fan bases. First off, read, I ask, like, you know, this sensitivity kind of index that you can put teams on, are you

buying it? Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Are you really? I'm buying it. Okay. Okay. All right. Alignment. What is it? The alignment wheel? Alignment. Okay. Alignment. Lawful, neutral, chaotic. It's the same

type of thing with NFL teams and their fan bases. So like Steelers and Packers, they're like proud. Steelers are more of a proud sensitive. Like they're proud people, they're blue collar, they're proud. But Packers fans, although very blue color, are much more of a pretentious sensitive. It seems like it because they're like, oh, I might be, I own the team. I'm in the ownership group. I've been a fan since Bart Starr was running around here. Bart Star, do you know him? He was the first Super Bowl. Bart Star under the bleachers.

By the way, my dad texted me, or actually my dad called me and I was like, I always worry about what he hears me talking about on the pod and I'm just like, man, fuck his dad listening to this. Hey dad, what's up, man? No, I'm saying hi right now to you, dad, but I was like, hey,

hey dad, what's up? And he was like, oh, the Mickey Mantle thing, geez. I was like, I was like, man, that's funny. And then I was like, wait, that made the show. We fact-checked it. Yeah, well, so it's true. God damn.

I feel like one of my dad's heroes died or something. He was like, well, that was, Nate really went there. So, yeah, that's going to be a fun conversation between you two guys the next time you run into each other at a dinner party. Oh, man. But Packers fans, yeah, they own the team. they're a little sensitive that way. Are there teams

read that you think deserve to be sensitive? I was almost going to say the Cowboys, but then I retract that. Cowboys have no reason to be sensitive. I think the Cowboys kind of have a reason to be sensitive, like new Cowboys fans, because they know they haven't, their team hasn't done shit, right? Yeah, but they have to be this like aristocracy.

Right. When actually they've been through a lot of hurt these young fans. Easily. But they, but people associate them with this like bourgeoisie. Mm-hmm. Is that, did I say that right? Yeah. Bourgeoisie.

Burgeon wazi. Yeah, which one is it, Matt? It was the first. Fucking former history teacher. He shouldn't. I don't know why you keep relying on me for French pronunciation. Because I'm really, I'm not, that's like in my little player skill wheel, that's like the lowest one pronouncing French words.

But yeah, like, they're the bourgeoisie, man. That's what everybody says about them, but they've actually been through a lot of hurts. So I would be sensitive if I were misunderstood. Jacksonville. I would say, I was going to say Jacksonville too. Jacksonville.

After all the stuff they've been through and then the whole debacle with the last coach they had and not taking the plane back and all that, I think they have a right to be sensitive. Even banging on the door of the Super Bowl in 2017 and then their team getting dismantled. Literally bad call, they literally were there.

But that's the thing about, Jags fans like some people I'm sure could tell me and you know hey guys gals if you think a fan base is more sensitive or less sensitive than we're saying like we're not the foremost authority so write us but like Jags fans don't seem sensitive to me see I think they seem like dead inside in a really healthy way maybe I'm just like you know but it might seem like not on the surface but once you like maybe you have to ask the second second question and then they're like oh fuck this season side.

You've lived with the Jags I have. We've worked with a Jags fan and that was how Taylor was. You'd say one thing he'd be like

ah, it's just how it goes. And then you say what do you think of their fans, Nate? I think Jacks fans are great. But I guess like you said, I guess,

no, I don't know. I feel like they do go through a lot of hurt. I think when I was down there, I think that a lot of fans, they did want Tebow. And that whole thing of not just putting him on the team,

I think a lot of fans, while that was going on, that was shaking up a lot of fans. Like, why won't they just do this? Can you imagine, like, sitting in your house and being like, oh, you just sign Tebow, why aren't they signing Tebow? But when you're going to a stadium every game, that guy who tweeted about Joe Burrow. When you're going to a game every when you're going to a stadium where every game they're covering sections of seats because we're not filling them.

Yeah. And you know that even if you put this kid on the team, that's going to fill up. That's like also like why like people because all of our games when I was down there, they were blacked out. Yeah. If you don't sell enough tickets, they're not going to play it. If you're a Jacks fan, you're definitely entitled to being sensitive. I just feel like they exist in the part of the wheel that's like, We're dead. It's okay.

Like commanders fans are just the most. I really, really respect them because, boy, they've been through a lot. You know, it's not something to be proud of. You know, you deserve a chance. You're a Washington fan. You've been through Snyder. You've been through all the shakeups. You've been through all the losing, like young Washington fans,

not ones that enjoyed the hogs and that sort of thing. So is it HTTC now? HTT, bro. but most of them that I know are really endearing because they know what's going to happen, dude. They know exactly what's going to happen before the movie starts. Kind of like Nick's fans. And they enjoy it. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They enjoy that ride. They get a little bit of, you know, they might get a little bit like they're going up the roller coaster. And then it's just, yeah. They're using meth, dude. They are the meth users. And I don't mean this like in their personal lives. But if I was to, if each team was a drug, oh man, let's have.

Yeah. Should we just have this conversation right now? Yeah. Okay, let's have this conversation. Yeah. Throw a team out there. Houston Texans. Oh,

like a fucking definitely a down there. Yeah. Spice. No. Spice. Come on, dude. What do you mean? Yeah, baby.

What do you mean? Yeah. They were buying hotel rooms for Deshaun Watson. Yeah. They're out of it. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's not the spice. They're spice Because what else are they?

Is like cough syrup out of it? Is that like too mean? That's actually where it's from. Yeah, that's actually right. They might be lean. They're just a sleep, you know, like, oh, why don't we do this?

It's not chill, though. It's not chill. Yeah, it's not a cool. It's like a downer that like you're playing Russian roulette. Yeah, yeah. Like it makes you go to sleep. New York Jets. The Jets?

Oh, man. That's just like a cigarette spike in something like, like, you know, like a lace cigarette. Yeah. the Jets are like a laced It's like they start You know they do what the cigarette Lays and whatever

Because they start talking about football And then diverges into something else And something crazy Yeah something crazy They always like give up on their season too early And they just start talking about something else I gotta go one And you know what you're getting into

And dolphins Dolphins Yeah A rave drug That alters your reality dude Exorcist Yeah it's definitely like Those people

No they're not happy They just don't know what's, it's like salvia or something. They are happy. It's a hallucinagent. No, something that makes you happy, but then like at the end of it, it's not so good. Like once it's wearing off. That's what I think Miami is. Like Bad Molly?

Like, yeah, probably. Right now they're happy. Camp Tua to Tarek. Oh my God, it's going to be so amazing. But every fan base is on Molly. and in OTAs. That's very true. The Saints

read that they deserve to be sensitive. Yep. I think they do. They went through the hurricane. Bad calls. Bad calls. You know,

they were out there fucking with an easel. That's what that is. That's exactly what that is. With an easel and a picture, a still photograph, and they were just pointing in that shit for like 30 minutes.

Yep. They had members of the government, just sitting in there. Spending their time talking about football. And the worst part is the Saints are saints fandom in some ways, along with the Falcons fandom sometimes, perfect examples of why life isn't fair. Like life is just not fair.

It's so not fair that they are, they have a fucking point, dude. Yeah. Like they're right. And something should be done about that. Something should have been done about that. but people are like, come on, man, like, you know, like saying the truth too loud. Yeah, like, you're doing it, you're making it awkward.

Right, right, right, right, calm down. That's what they, that's what they are. And, and God bless them, they deserve to be, they used to have trash bags on their fucking faces. You know, now James Winston's their quarterback. Right. The bills, the bills deserve to be sensitive. Yes. The bills, they, you know, all the Super Bowls, they nearly moved to Toronto.

Some guy in my mention said this. Trump almost bought him was, was, forgot about that. And then 17 straight years, no playoffs. They're like the deep pain. They self-medicate by jumping through tables.

Yeah, exactly. Their form of grief is like, just continually jumping through tables. Mm-hmm. But I love them. I think the Rams also have a case to be. St. Louis Rams fans.

Right, exactly. Any Rams fan that has been there for 20, 15, 20 years? Yes. Because the volatility and all over the place, because, you know, people bring up, oh, well, you used to be the LA team. Yeah. But we made our name as St. Louis.

Like, that's when we got good and made these Super Bowls. And, you know, St. Louis as a city got done dirty. Mm-hmm. So if you're a St. Louis fan, they're so rightfully so sensitive about this thing that they don't watch the Super Bowl. They have Super Bowl parties where they don't watch the game, dude. Purposely? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

They just no TV on Super Bowl party, bro. they're upset about it and they should be they got fucked and then on top of it uh Stan Cronkey has won three championships in the past title in all sports so if you're a st louis rams fan you're rightfully very sensitive so like are they at this party like looking down at the score on the phone just like like hey like i'm i'm refusing they gamble too like that's what i'm saying like you like you're really refusing to watch the game i don't know but i think yeah The lions are also a team that can be sensitive. You want to lash out at work?

Yes. I'm a Lions fan. Yep. You want to knock a table over from time to time? 15 minutes. You get your 15 minutes and just going crazy. Yeah, Lions fans. You want to shake somebody?

And they're like, what the fuck was that? You're a Lions fan. I totally get it. I think that's like most of the teams that actually deserve to be sensitive. I mean, I really want to send out some respect to Bears fans. I know them through my brother. like they're very temperamental and shit and all that and they can definitely jump on the hype train but they know at the end of the day how the movie ends they're like they're like what i admire

the falcons fans in the same way like i got to know them in the wake of the 28 to 3 thing they know that shit's coming dude you know even if they're happy i think like underneath that smile is a frown and i respect that so we were going to do best rivalries of all time real quick read do you have a favorite rivalry or two that deserves mentioning before we dive into this, like we should do a big rivalry day, but is there one that caught your eyes you were prepping to do something that lost real estate

because of college football today? Well, I would say I did not know much about this until the bad boys documentary, the bad boys 30 for 30, but the Pistons, I mean, you could say versus the Bulls, you'd say versus, you know, basically the Pistons versus the NBA in the late 80s, early 90s, the bad boys run around.

I mean, that just seemed like, and Jordan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Specifically him. Right, right, right. Jordan rules. Yeah. That's one of the only like him versus an entire team rivalries I've ever.

Exactly. And just those guys just not giving. I mean, you saw like it was the first time that Jordan really cracked. You got Larry, they got Larry Byrne to crack. Yeah. You know, they just took everyone's temperament and they just brought it way down. It was like, oh, we got to play the Pistons. Now I'm going to go, hey, Buck Wild.

And it was almost like the NBA. wasn't sure how to handle it at the time. I mean, you saw Isaiah haul off and punch a dude in the chest. No problem. Bill Am Beer is like face palming dudes. Just like he's like volleyball spiking, but on people's faces. I like the Knicks and the heat are my favorite from the 90s. Like just I was watching,

I went down the YouTube rabbit hole the other night and I was watching those matchups. And like dudes were really like Zoe and was it Anthony Mason or was Charles Oakley threw down. man like nobody landed any punch but uh the punches looked like they would have hurt and dudes were really trying to hurt each other and that thing was heating up like before that fight somebody got like flipped out of bounds dude i think charlie ward got flipped out of bounds like the things that were going on in that rivalry were fucking crazy they weren't like dapping each other up after the game kind of rivalries where you know guys are like talking under their hands like that wasn't happening after heat nicks the one i really want to dive into one day is the brady manning

rivalry. Is it a rivalry? Like it is, but they don't seem to hate each other, but you know deep down. They can't like each other. I wonder how much it eats at Peyton that Brady's still playing as well as he did, or as well as he is, and he's still winning Super Bowls, and I wonder

how much it eats it. Brady that the player that he's compared to or that when people bring up greatest of all time is Peyton. That he's like, I've had almost three Hall of Fame careers and you're still bringing up this guy. you know what's interesting about Peyton

and you just made me think of it read is he's always had to compete. Like he's had to compete with his dad. He's had to compete with his brother. You know, like I can relate to that. And on top of that, he had to compete with this kid Tom Brady who he had to stave off and could only do it for so long.

I think it was until the 07 season, like when they played, maybe it was 07. When, no, it wasn't until Tom Brady beat the Seahawks, I feel like, until people were like, unquestionably, he's the goat. now Manning is chasing him, which is almost unimaginable that at some point Brady was chasing somebody. They were in a pack together. So Manning's always had to compete with individuals. And, you know, like crazy for him, he was like on top of the world. And he's a fucking Hall of Fame.

We're cutting hairs here. He's like one of the best quarterbacks ever play game. Top three for sure, right? It's him, Brady, and probably going to be. I mean, you have to leave space for Joe Montana or one of the guys. guys playing now. So, but Peyton was like the king. And then it wasn't until I think Brady beat the Seahawks. And then they had like a, I remember when they played in 2007,

I wanna say it was, and they were both undefeated late in the season. And it was like a Super Bowl atmosphere. And like to be alive in that period when it was like closely contested and seeing the football that was going on between those two guys was crazy. And then now it's funny because you

look at Brady getting that job and that does affect the landscape that Manning's in. And he came on his, his Manning cast. Yeah. Kind of tried out. It's like I had my thing and now you kind of now you're in the media too. Oh, great. He's here.

Right. The thing that Manning has over Brady, though, is that he is, it's his production company. Omaha. Yeah. And Brady, he's, you know, he's a guy. Yeah. I love Peyton's brand, dude. Peyton's brand to me is so fucking cool.

So good. I mean, he's just, he's good off the cuff. He likes to do his own. shit like you know Peyton's places he's not leaving to do something no you know he he when you everybody in Monday night football is crowded around the couch watching the manning cast and he's like on his couch right right you know what I mean that's fucking awesome yeah so that's going to be one when they're old that they're going to do a really long special and all those guys are sitting on the couch yeah oh yeah it's going to be great fucking great reliving that'll be interesting will will

that be seen on uh Fox sports or will it be ESP in Omaha I don't even thing is going to be TV at that way right right right it'll be cast in some way there'll be a little like floating orb that shoots them into your living room so it's like you're you're there too right um no it was it see no r2g2 doing the projectors yeah hologram yeah i'm gonna have old tom rady sitting next to me by then there's going to be a interactive holograms we're going to be able to see all of it's going to be weird i'm gonna be like tom you don't remember me i'm just this hologram hey i got to tell you um a quick story about the movies i do have something yeah Um, so the other, the other day, um, I discovered something in the studio that I didn't know was there.

I stumbled upon it, kind of. Snake. Uh, no, not a snake. Um, it was a beverage. And someone had put it there, even though that person had been, that person had found it first and he was required to drink it at the time. So, yeah. I'm going to show you now, Nate, what you do when you find a, uh, ice which is what you did on the Super Bowl you found the ice but you didn't pay up oh wow

you owe an ice so reads and the ice that i found yeah was the one that he was supposed to drink oh my god he's just totally he's just big dogging you right now dude he's high roading you oh my god yeah that's what you kind of look like rusty hey hey hey Nate how do you feel I get ice and I feel great like you feel you have no I have Like he got iced. Put that on your TikTok. Put that on your cameo. This is the ice that I iced you with.

And then you re-hit it because you didn't want to do it. You remember you iced me with that giant ice? Yeah. It was back behind you, but then I noticed some fungus grown in it. So I threw it away. Oh, my God. All that sugar.

Yeah. I haven't seen it. It's a locked-in I am. Gross. I'm not going to do an ice. I know because I iced you went seven months ago. I didn't do it. You did.

noticed it, you smile. And then you were like, oh, this is how I wanted to end. So, Nate, July 4th weekend, you have to do an ice

sometime this weekend. You don't have to video. You just have to get one ice this weekend. You have to do an ice. I could work something. Okay, good. All right, sweet.

I got you. I got you. Please do. Read, you know what? You help me out with my cameo video. You know what?

I will do that. I will do that. Sweet. A man of, integrity. It's good to know if you're giving your money to him on cameo. You know? That's so funny. Nate, I can't wait to hit your

cameo, dude. Have a great weekend. Y'all take care.