Green Light with Chris Long - Vita Vea! Stanford Steve! College Football Playoff & NFL WK11 Betting.

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all too. 1-8009-9-9. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. Oh, boy. Thank you very much for joining today. Chris Stamford-Steve-Macon all-preview college football week 12 today. We're going to talk a whole bunch about the college football playoff implications.

What happens if this team loses and that team wins? What happens in this matchup? Are UNC and USC similar? And does the Pac-12 and ACC champion have a shot at a playoff spot? We'll run through our NFL Week 11 picks. And then Chris and Bow-Allen interview Vita Vaya. Vita was fresh off his trip from Germany, where the Buccaneers beat the Seahawks.

Vita talks about his time in the bucks, swap some hilarious stories, a couple featuring Bo, and talks about those sack celebrations he's become so well known for. And a reminder, tomorrow, we've got Amp. 4.30 p.m. Eastern.

Check out Greenlight on social media, and you can find the link. And tomorrow we'll be back with you with the Freak Show. Y'all enjoy. Do you have your locks? uh sort of

is that a trapper keeper not on my end nah okay where all right here it's a notebook yeah no I thought it was a trapper

no book that would have been something it currently says minus dollars is what my little notebook says really on the year I'm proud of you I really am

you're in the arena you're a man in the arena you know know some young lady just came through it's more like a moment okay some young lady a tennis player last night you said you were done gambling you said you retired for good yeah

I'm proud of you making for swinging this year for taking a swing for being a man in the arena thanks thanks thanks I'm wondering here's what's going through my head right now I'm wondering about because we put this pot out right away. I'm wondering about when I walk out of the building and text you, hey, we put it out tomorrow morning. Okay, tomorrow morning. Okay. So I've got all night to text you to say, hey, we've got to cut those first few minutes. Sure. But why would you want to? It's not a bad year.

I'm having a fine year. Yeah. It's just the volume. There's a lot of volume. You want to see what the windbed account said after this weekend? Look at this right here. That number. please confirm um the first one i don't quite know what it means does that the one with the plus before it like that means you won that yeah this weekend jesus christ thank you wow yeah it was a good weekend so uh speaking of money money speaking of american currency yeah okay white steve is here hey steve gentlemen what's up buddy you got some auburn gear on today Cadillac. Yes, sir.

Cadillac. We love Cadillac Williams. You know I play with Cadillac Williams? Really? Yeah, in St. Louis. I forgot he went there. Yeah, well, most people get forgotten when they go to St. Louis. You know?

Did you see the scene of Jordan Hare after the A&M game? It was pretty sweet. He's awesome. He's legitimately one of the best dudes ever. Yeah. Just great to have in a locker room. Yep. And it's no surprise to me that he's a great coach, too.

or at least the coach that people love. You know, we'll see. I mean, he doesn't have any shot of keeping that job, right, Steve? I don't think so. I think Auburn's a tremendous job. Now, you've got to deal with a lot when you're down there because it does feel like the inmates run the asylum a lot of the times and the inmates make their voices heard down there,

which makes it just a chaotic place. But when you think about it... Now, Steve, you're talking about the boosters down there. Yeah, yeah. yeah, you know, the alums. So, I still think, I mean, look what Auburn's done, and I think what makes people so crazy down there is what they're up against

every year in state because of Nick Saban. So what have them been able to do? They've played a national title games. They've won a national title, you know, in 2010. So the possibility is there, but it's a lot to handle. And I just think a new AD comes. in, I don't think you can give that job to a guy that doesn't have any head coaching experience. Now, I think if I'm one of these lower tier schools, I'm definitely looking at what, you know,

Cadillac has done with the program in a couple weeks. And everyone brings back the same word all the time when you talk about Cadillac Williams, and it's authentic. And that's what's really, really cool to see. And, you know, he doesn't pull any punches. And, you know, when he's doing things, you know, I was listening to our guys. guy Cole Kubelick talk. He did the game. He did the interviews with Cadillac and he talked about the pregame and he asked about his kicking situation because their kicker was out. He's like, hey,

you know, what do you think the range is for your backup kicker? And Calder was like, I don't know. I got to get out there. I don't know. I've never seen him kicking a game. You know, he's like, I got to get out there pregame and see how he's kicking it. You know, it's going to be a night game. You know, the wind might be blowing, but it was just honest. And it was just cool to hear that kind of things. And I just think it was really, really cool is you saw how many of his former teammates players come back for

what probably is his last chance to ever win an SEC game as a head coach of Auburn. And that was really cool. The scene was something to see. And I was happy for those guys down there that I'm friends with. Who do you think, you know, not to Barry Cadillac here,

but who do you think takes that job? I don't know. I think it's got to be somebody that has SEC experience because of the division you play. And I mentioned what you're up against every week in state knowing what's, you know, across the state. And I, you know, is it a better job than Ole Miss? I think it is. You know, but now when you look at jobs, people take better jobs differently. Yes. There's a lot less pressure at Ole Miss for Lane Kiffin

if he were to be mentioned along with these things, you know, at Auburn. So I think it's a guy that's had to have been a head coach and had to have SEC experience. So that kind of limits the list, but, you know, that's why these ADs get paid all this money, man. You know, I'm sure they've been working it. That's why they got rid of Harsen to get this, you know, search train going. but I honestly, I don't know because the Harsenhire was as unpredictable a hire as we've seen in the sport in the last whatever, throw the 10, 20 years. So I don't know what to expect there, and it's just to wait and see for me.

Hugh Freeze. Wow. Lynchburg, Virginia. Yeah, well, he's looking to make a move soon. Oh, that dude was feeling himself after that BYU game. Yeah. He was like, I was watching that late night Liberty. show, which is great. Love that show.

I hate that show. I hate that freaking show, man. But it's like Liberty TV, you know? And he's like, I just, I don't want to toot my horn here, but I do want to say that was probably the best game plan that I've ever created. Yeah.

He was like, I don't usually say things like this, but what a fucking great job I did. Yeah, and they lost to Yukon. Yeah. That's our guy up there. Lost Jimora. I got a question about Auburn where's Auburn without

Cam Newton this century I mean don't we I feel like somebody who's not in SEC country is hard for me to figure like the contemporary Auburn like who are you know like is that program a great program

is it I think so yeah I do have you ever been there no I'm just saying what they've done on the field they've been a ton of bowl games national championship after him him. Yeah, the last BCS. They were on the cusp of a title, you know, a playoff birth in 2017 because they beat Bama and then they come back and they got to play Georgia in the SEC title game. They beat Georgia three weeks earlier and rematch. They're obviously banged up from the Iron

Bowl and they lose that game and Georgia gets into the playoff and loses in the title game. So I still think they're, and that's right. I still am blown away the success that they've had. It's been quick spurts, and there's been some really down years. You know, the year after, or two years after, I think they won the title in 12. I remember being in Oklahoma, and it was Notre Dame, Oklahoma, and that was the year Notre Dame went to the title game, and checking scores. And that was when Mansell was at A&M. I think Mansell was up like 35-9 at the end of their first quarter. It's like, this team, less than two years ago, won a national championship, and now they're going winless in the SEC.

So it's amazing how when it's good, it's good, when it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. And you've seen the bad. It's a lot of fluctuation, Chris. And I think you're used to a little more normalcy and regularity, you know, where there's some consistency. And that's not awkward. So it is hard to digest with what goes on down in the plains. But it's an awesome place.

Maybe we get, I mean, maybe that's our road trip next year. We're going on in the plains for a game. Yeah, I'd love that. I would love that. I mean, like, yeah, they are very, there's a wide range of results for Auburn, like since I've been an adult watching Auburn play. And it's just I'm not sure how to think of that job and that program. I mean, like, obviously a great amount of respect for him.

But, yeah. You freeze. So before Liberty lost Yukon, was that BYU? I think BYU was. I think there was a win before, in between that. He had two big wins. They were winning. Yeah.

And so he said, he told this to 24-7 sports. And granted, he's asked the question, but his quote was, I don't know that Auburn wants me. I have no clue. I know this. I have won everywhere I've been, and my staff and kids have turned programs fast. It's our culture that we instill. I know we do that, and the proof is in the pudding.

That is not love where I am. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that is, I want the Auburn job. That's, that's Terry McLaren. on Midnight Sports Center breaking down whether or not, you know, Carson should start or Heineke could start. I mean, he gave a hundred words on, Steve, he gave a hundred words on Heineke and seven on, I'll take the over on a hundred. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And hey, how about him finishing that interview with the compliment Scott? Yeah, just basically taking my job whenever he wants. just giving it up to him.

Yeah, no question. I love that guy. No, I could talk for an hour about Terry McLaurland. I mean... Let's keep you on top. We'll keep you on target. Really scary Terry for you. Yeah.

Yeah, really scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should be sitting right there. Can I get a taller chair?

All right. So, yeah, like, let's talk about the SEC. Let's talk about the playoffs. Let's talk about the two teams that kind of... The way I see is the two teams control their own destiny, really, or you could argue some other teams might, but like Georgia and Ohio State are the teams that are most likely to be in the playoff, and probably most likely to win out.

Obviously, Georgia has, they don't have their big rivalry game in Michigan coming up, but these two teams play respectively, Georgia at Kentucky this weekend and Ohio State at Maryland, which matchup is more of a landmine for these teams either? neither next question yeah it's just so what about what about dorsey michigan and illinois uh i'm actually interested in that because when we uh looking at that game breaking it down this week illinois a couple brutal losses the last couple weeks and two weeks ago was the one that was really eye scratching and then going back and watching it i think they had three or four

turnover on downs in plus territory and it was just weird like it was just setting themselves up up to lose that game in Michigan State. And then they followed up against Purdue, who comes out and runs the option with a drop-back quarterback and Aidan O'Connell. So when you look at Illinois, they do lead, and my question when we did the show last night, was will Michigan have to throw the ball in order to win this game? Because Illinois is number three in scoring points per game on defense, and Michigan's won. You know, Illinois has been really good against the run.

and I just wonder if that defense travels. This is their Super Bowl. They sort of have a chance for the Big Ten West, which every other team in, that side of the division does besides Northwestern. So I'm really interested because, you know, people that love to look ahead spots, that I think they're going to be on Illinois here because of what lies ahead for Michigan next week.

But I just want to see Illinois Bilema in this spot. He's been awesome as an underdog in his career. in this league and I think they could cause some problems. So I really want to see the versatility of Michigan's office if there is any. You know, you go back and, you know, everybody's going to talk about their resume. I mean, you got to put them in that control your own destiny because they are playing Ohio State. Yeah, but there ain't no resume at this point. Their strength of schedule, I think it's like 82.

No, but if they beat Ohio State when the Big Ten, they're in. Yes, for sure. They do control their destiny. But Ohio State's going to be favorites in that game. Yeah, what's the, what do you guess that line at? I saw seven. So Illinois is catching like 18 in Ann Arbor, so that feels over under is like 42. 41. That's an NFL total.

Like, as Jets, Pat. Yeah, well, I don't know. Minus the spread. Yeah. So I kind of, well, how about this? In the Big Ten West, is there any team that could give the winner of, you know, out of State Michigan trouble in the Big Ten championship? I'm thinking Iowa is going to be the team that wins the West.

Listen, I've watched that Ohio State first half against Iowa like four times. They gave it to Ohio State. They really did in that first half. And turnovers just kill them with their offense. So I think that's going to be the team. They played Michigan. They played Ohio State. It's not pretty because of their offense.

But who the hell knows in a rematch, man? like that defense will show up they do an awesome job with spacing but no I can't so here's my chaos model oh I got it I got it for you too okay you go for

oh boy double chaos models I would just love it if all the big 10 teams just got fucked here well okay I'll go one step yeah further yeah TCU's got Miller light nice Stanford Steve yeah that's good

TCU's got one and a half never too early one and a half difficult games left all right TCU can be out USC's got three difficult games left. Clemson loses to Carolina. Ohio State beats Michigan and loses to an Iowa type.

All-SCC Final Four. I don't like that. Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, that's not chaos. That sucks. Oh, it would suck. But it would be chaos. And it won't happen.

It can't happen. It's not going to happen. Could happen. But listen, here's one interesting thing. What's the big fucking difference between USC and UNC to date? I know USC can finish the job and have a really, a really impressive resume,

especially down the stretch here. And they got a great quarterback and that sort of thing. And they're talented, but UNC, who took, it was, you know, like, all they do is win. All they do is win. That's a nice way to put it. They have a similar resume and a lot of similarities. It feels like UNC and Clemson, for that matter, and they should be,

have been written off because of the conference they play in. this year. Yeah, and I think we talked last week just about the idea of what Notre Dame's done to the ACC. You know, when Syracuse was, you know, the hot team, they went there and gave them a dose, they went to Chapel Hill, gave them a dose, and then they really, really gave Clemson a dose on their home field. So I think that really hurts the perception, and now Notre Dame goes to USC to end the season. So that, that's a dynamic. I'm with you. Scott and I talked on our pod this week. Who's the most valuable player in college football?

Heisman aside, just the most valuable. I think it's Caleb Williams with SC. Just because I've watched them, I would guess more than the average person and what's on his plate every single snap in every single game. Knowing how bad that defense is

is pretty incredible. So I'm fascinated to see what SC does because if they run the table, they're getting in. I don't care what happens to any other team. You're going to look at that resume. It's going to be pretty darn good. And if they do that,

he's going to probably win the Heisman, too. Yeah. I mean, he's, what, second in line right now behind Stroud? Corum's up there too, I think? Yeah. Go ahead.

If LSU beats Georgia, which probably won't happen, LSU or Tennessee for you, if the others hold serve up top. here's here's the scenario that I'm going to give you that I haven't heard anywhere okay hear me out here Oregon got beat by Washington right yes confirmed okay besides the Tennessee win for Georgia what's their next biggest biggest win the blowout win against Oregon week one so here's my deal with Georgia if they were to lose to LSU what else

happened because you can have Oregon if they lose this game to Utah they can lose the Civil War to Oregon State. They would have four losses. They might not be ranked. And we have held down to that Georgia Oregon game since week one. So I think Georgia would be up against it because their resume wouldn't look at. The SEC East is not good. It's not good. You got Georgia, you got Tennessee. That's it. South Carolina, not good team. Florida, you could have them. You know, you go down the list. Kentucky is not even close to what they were in. years past. So that's the scenario that I, everybody's like, George's in, George's in. I guess so because that would make Tennessee move down a notch, but then Tennessee went to Baton Rouge

and gave it to them. So I don't know how they're going to decipher this. It's happened a couple years back in the old BCS. The computers ended up leaning towards Oklahoma with Sam Bradford when there was the triangle of losses and running the top three teams. So you have that in the SEC. The committee has to be begging for LSU not to win the SEC because that you want mayhem, it starts right there. And I got to feel like their odds are pretty good. That's not going to happen seeing that line posted this week of Georgia minus 16 against LSU.

Is this a week to bet, let's say, all right, I don't know, I'm looking at Tennessee. They're going to play SC this weekend. and they want to make that look as good as possible, right? Is this a good week to bet Tennessee? I'm with you there. Here's the thing with USC and TCU. If they keep winning, their resume is going to improve, and they're also going to be in the eyeball

in front of everybody's eyeballs. Tennessee, you know, they got South Carolina and Vandy left. That's it. Those games aren't going to be watched. Oh, you got hiccups. I might have to give you a damn because of that Miller-Light. No, that was just one. No.

you know what I do have? Look at that. Oh, look at that. Chris Long. Autograph. You texted me that last night and what did I say? That poor rookie. I said, I feel sorry for that kid.

I wish somebody else drafted him. Look at the Mohawk. Make it. Wow. All it just brings back is bad memories. It's all they give you. It's okay. Is that still your signature?

It's not great. Greg Williams used to be like. A C and H and L? You got the worst fucking signature. You ever seen Michael Jordan sign his autograph? That's why he's good. That's not true. It looks like a C lowercase L.

It's a C. H. Long. Whatever, man. What's nice though, Steve, is that it's easily forgeable. Howie long, he takes 17 seconds to write his signature. It's gorgeous, but here's the thing. He's not signing as many autographs for me.

He must be turning him down. There's no way. I used to stay at practice, sign 100 autographs. That is true. So that's an every man autograph. means I got to get to the next little kid. That's true. You know, my dad's like only a few.

Oh, I know. If my last name was long, I would make that part of my signature. Well. That's all. So, you know. I got nothing for you. Nevertheless. So I, like, how about Baylor TCU this weekend?

And how about the people on first take or whatever saying that TCUs hasn't played anybody? I mean, I feel like that's a, there's a little bit of, brand bias here. I've had TCU number two since about week, God, six. Yeah. I give them credit because I think the

Big 12 doesn't get credit for how deep it is. You know, there's no Vanderbilt's in the Big 12. Kansas is going to a bowl game this year. That's all you need to know. And I look at what TCU did and watch that tape. Chris, if you want defense, go back and watch

TCU's, and that's the thing. No one talks about their defense. They just manhandled Texas. And Texas is a team that's run the ball on everybody. They didn't do it last week. It's because of TCU brought the fight on the road in a big spot.

And I give those guys a ton of credit, man. They've gone out and answered the bell every single week. Can they do it again again this week? That's really interesting because I had Baylor last week and that was a totally wrong side against Kansas State.

So I'm not doubting TCU. I'm done, but it does ring alarms because this is the ultimate, you know, not trap game, but do you have anything? How much energy did you expend in that 1710 win against Texas, even though you didn't give up a touchdown because Texas had a, you know, a fumble return for six? So it's fascinating. It's going to be awesome to watch. I do think TCU's offense poses problems for Baylor secondary, which is not Baylor.

strength at all. And I worry about Iowa State and then K State again too. It's not quite USC's final three, but it's not far from it. And I haven't really watched Iowa State. I don't know. They're just, you know, they're one of those teams. You know exactly what Iowa State is. Yeah.

Matt Campbell. You know what Matt Campbell's doing right now? What? He's taking a step back win-loss-wise this year, which is what Tony Bennett did, right, before he came to Virginia. So keep still have them on all your list. Yeah. Hire Matt Campbell.

Still hire Matt Campbell. No question. No question. By low, dude. Yes. I wanted to hire Matt Campbell. I don't care what he did around here. I would hire him to be fucking whatever.

Tony Bennett was to the pod. No offense. Matt Campbell, like I just like him. He'll be really. I still remember making didn't want Tony Bennett. I'm the one that remembers that. Wow.

Really? No, not really. Yeah. That's wild. It's a joke. Like I want my name on the podcast. I want my name on this podcast.

I bet you it's in that notebook. I bet you he has his thoughts about when that opening came, those thoughts are in that notebook. Let's look at the 12-team playoff thing because this is fun. This is what we would have coming up. The four teams with Bives, UGA-1, Ohio State 2, TCU3, USC4. We're anticipating an Ohio State victory over Michigan. All right?

And then we got Alabama Clemson, Alabama's through to play Georgia, Michigan, UCF. We got the Golden Knights through to play USC. I just want to see team. I want to see warm weather teams having to go play cold weather teams. That's what I want to see. That's why 12 teams would be fun. I've been going against all these people saying that the 12 team will go take away from the big games in the regular season. I totally disagree because you're going to have teams playing for those buys and those home, that first round is going to be at home.

How awesome is that? Yes. That is so good just because the idea you said of cold weathers having to go to, you know, you know, warm weather and warm weather going, and then, you know, a Florida school, maybe having to go to the West Coast, like, that's awesome. Yeah, it is awesome. Come on out of the SEC country.

It is awesome. Utah at LSU. I don't know. And maybe some of these weird matchups would give us some clarity on where these programs are a little bit more than what you know coming out of the season as it is. I mean, I don't know. It would be cool to see Utah go loose of Florida week zero or one

and then go to Baton Rouge and win a game. Yeah. I mean, better. There's the thing in the NFL, teams change. You know, like you can throw the last matchup out the window.

And I don't know how different it is. Really? Because that's how I gamble on sports. Well, I mean, I should start zagging on the last matchup. Yeah, I think about,

I mean, the last matchup's great and everything, but when a team sees somebody in the regular season, they see them in the playoffs, it's not always the same. You know, it just teams,

teams evolve through the year, and there's, and football is played differently in December and in January. than it is in September. And so I do think it would be interesting to see some of these rematches and that sort of thing. But that's for another year.

It's four right now, and so we argue about all this shit. Yeah. And it sounds like you're on the side of USC, if it wins out over Tennessee, because they're not going to be able to shine. Yes, and conference championships are going to matter. We've seen these predicaments play out, and when it's a one loss,

versus the conference champion that conference champion has gotten it. I'm going to be disrespectful. I think TCU stumbles. I can see that. I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with you. I hope not. So the fourth team in would probably be USC if they went out, yeah?

But that's going to be, is UCLA going to quit, though? Because they were running this mix, and that was a rough one. Jay DeLora. Jed Fish. You know, we haven't talked about the Pact 12th. We have depth out there, and then, you know, everybody just looks down upon it when somebody gets upset. So it's a different dynamic, you know,

depending on the lens that you're looking through making. But UCLA will be up to ruin USC season. Yeah. Let me ask you. Without a doubt, I think UCLA should be favored. Okay. Let me ask you this, Steve. Go ahead.

Georgia, is there anybody in that four spot that actually give them a game? Is it a Tennessee rematch? Is it like, what are the matchups that you would really want to see in the playoff this year? Because they've always been shit in the first round, especially. Yeah, it's hard to see. We don't want to see Georgia, Michigan because we saw it last year, right? I'd love to see Ohio State Tennessee. Yeah.

I'd love to see Michigan, Tennessee. Think about that uniform game. Oh, beautiful. You know? TCU Tennessee. Yellow and orange. Yeah, clashes a little bit. A little bit.

USC, Michigan. Where are the blue teams? For fuck's sake. Michigan. No, I'm talking about the true blue teams, not the fucking navy. I'm talking about like the Kansas blue or the old Miss Powder blue or the Duke. Never a blue team in this fucking thing, dude. Carolina.

Yeah, no. Lingering. Is royal blue on the decline? It is on the decline. It is on the decline. Anyways Oh Very good observation

I'm just to Bring back Royal Blue Invasion Bring it back Dude there's not enough Good teams in Royal Blue In basketball When's the last time you wore a royal blue

T-shirt Me? Yo check this shit out Oh look at you Bringing it back Look at that What brand is that Gilding

Gildon It's probably Gildon What's the shit Steve? What's the decal What's the emblem Where are the chances Duke? No, it says,

it says, Southbound 2005. Well, close. I think it was somebody's, somebody's family reunion I picked up out of thrift, you know?

Oh, okay. Times are hard. So yeah, bring back, bring back blue. I feel like, I feel like there's been a real, all the fucking red teams every year. Yeah, yeah, but we're doing better with it this year.

Okay. And purple? Blue is taken purple. Red doesn't get purple. All right? Yeah. Blue claims TCU. Okay.

Blue claims LSU. I don't know about that. I don't know about that, dude. Blue claims. I don't know about that, dude. Or the green teams. When's the last time there was a fucking green team in the playoff? I'm sure it's happened relatively recently.

There's others. Are there? Oregon. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That was it. Okay. Let's give out Steve's awards.

Who could forget? Not me. Okay. We have history for the awards. Oh, my goodness. We are going to the defensive side of the ball for both awards. Wow. Are you ready?

Not a title award anymore. Cawklund Award this week. TCU linebacker, Johnny Hodges, number 57. Local kid, Darnestown, Maryland, Navy transfer, went to Austin, Texas, 11 tackles, one and a half TFLs. Johnny Hodges, your Cawklin Award winner. Watch the tape. The kid brought it.

Awesome story. And we talked about TCU's defense earlier. I was blown away by their effort. And then also for the Timmy Chang Award, stay with the defense. Easton Gibbs from Wyoming. 13 tackles, one sack, two TFLs. Wyoming beats Colorado State 14, 13, to get the bronze boot.

Wow. Also, Johnny Hodges' American Souther. saxophonist. That's who came up first. Interesting. Yeah. What do you, when you, when you leave Navy, are you like, are you like, is that like, is that not being patriotic? Dishonorable. Discharge. Discharitable transfer. I just, I just look at it as like, oh my God, we could practice in the afternoon. I can sleep. Yeah. He probably thinks college football is a breeze, dude.

Oh my Lord. A breeze. It's warm this time of year there too. Easton Gibbs, a native of Temecula, California. Correct. Temecula. More like Weston Gibbs. All right, cool. All right, good. All right, you want to go locks here?

Do you want to go locks? Not really, dude. I just can't catch a break on these fucking picks I'm giving out. Update? We're locked in at the top. Making, made the jump. He's at number one, went two and one last week. Steve, you're right behind them and Chris is.

Five games back. Yep. Oh, six actually. Of Steve. Okay. So that's the last person you were talking to. You know, you know what's interesting from last week. Yeah.

Is that I had Houston, the Texans at the Giants, and then I decided I didn't like it so much because the points dropped by two. And so then I went opposite Steve, took the Titans against the Broncos, Titans end up winning by a touchdown and then you grab the Texans. For the second week in the row basically took a pick that you chickened out on and then I lost it.

I fell on that grenade for you. But the only thing that matters to me is that number I showed you earlier. But it's also that like the third week in a row, Chris, we get to this point talking about last week. I'll take that number over winning this fucking contest, guys. I'm sorry.

You have to look at that shit grin on Makin's face. That's the worst part of this. That's the only, but you know, it helped for him to read his balance and then for me to show mine today. And that really makes me feel vindicated. They want it, they want an equal a zero? The problem is, I'm picking the wrong fucking games. They could equal out to zero. Help out a friend.

What do you mean? No, I'm not helping a friend. Donation. It's like, for instance, fucking take the Niners, six. Seven, six. It's like, what, what's going on? here. Hey, hold on.

Hey, hold on a minute. Hey, hold on! You're just seeing the ball better out in Las Vegas. That's what it was. Well, in my defense, I don't know that here we go again. That you guys or anybody else really has the fortitude to wake up at 6 a.m.

and start betting on tennis. Okay? I'm a grinder. Yeah. And I'm losing. How's that working out for you? Poorly. So the thing you're good at, you suck at

betting. And right now I suck at this. on Thursday. So it's it just makes a lot of a lot of sense. Chris, make your pick

and we'll all go opposite Thursday night football. Oh, I love that pick. That's on my list. Dallas. Oh, thanks,

you condescending. Good for you. It's on my list as well. The current leader. You must be on it. It's hard to, it's hard to see you down there from six picks.

Well, listen, we have our Super Bowl hangover. You know? This is our Super Bowl hangover. We're like the Ramses. year you win a chip and it's fucking tough sledding if I took two weeks off and you went undefeated both those weeks we could be tied yeah if I gave you twice what you're what

you owe the wind bet app that would be what I won this weekend the wind bet they it's not a credit situation they take it up front no I understand yeah I understand it's already gone yeah okay so Dallas do your worst good pick Steve Steve I guess second year is up no second I think it is based on the Yeah, Steve, you're up. The rankings. Oh. Not to, I hate to agree with this, with this, uh,

Go ahead. What's the word? Give me, can I worse. What is, I can't remember the word. It's like, there's an adjective. We're friends, smug. And I like you. Smug, fuck.

And smug fuck. Just right now. Okay, all right. You know? New England. Okay. Minus three at home. Yeah.

Minus three at home against the jets. I'm glad I'm not giving that out because I am pulling for the jets. I don't want them to have to, I don't want to see that movie again. They deserve, you know, I'd like to see them maybe win that division. That'd be fun because the bills are giving it up and, you know, like,

they'd have to beat the dolphins the second time, but I know a lot of Jets fans. I'm just pulling for these guys. I've, uh, I've been on this team of a few weeks and they've rewarded me. I'll stick with them. Divisional game. A home dog is getting four and a half.

The Pittsburgh Steelers hosting Cincinnati. All right. Cincinnati is currently in its largest road favorite role at Pittsburgh since 1986. Over the last five seasons, Pittsburgh is 7 and 2 outright and 7.0.2 ATS as a home underdog. Love it. Love it. Go bangles. No, I do not root against you. I root for you.

Well, you know, maybe if you weren't such a smug, fuck, I wouldn't root against you. You know, when I actually win stuff, I kind of celebrate it to myself, but, you know, it's like, you know, I don't. All right, who's up? Me? Mm-hmm. Last place guy. All right. Take the bangles.

I'm not, that would be fun. Come on. Go for it. I thought that's why you said, let's go bangles. No, they just got TJ Watback, Steelers, fucking, the bangles aren't that good. Um, uh, ooh. Go. Wait.

Is, is Keenan Allen coming back at any point? Is Mike Williams coming back at any point? I think Mike's got a shot. Keenan, no shot. Maybe. I only know about Mike because he's on my awful family. There's a lot of points at home. Keenan participated in, uh, individual.

What? In practice? No, if he participated, That means that he's... Individual I all. He's... All that means is that he did an extra... He participated twice.

So... So, Keenan participated in indie, huh? That's right. I think he plays. I'm going to get the line where it is. Five and a half. Fuck me running. They're going to lose by seven.

I'll take the chargers catching a half point and make that six. That's the dumbest shit in the world. I'm going to lose by seven. you smug fucks Steve you smug fuck you're up I'm gonna take the under in the Broncos Raiders game

41 and a half okay I hope they score 70 smug fuck I'm at a point here where I'm not sure the team I'm going to take I'm going to take somebody jump out at me. I'm going to take the New York Giants.

Hmm. Three point favorites. It's half point Wednesday. Yeah. It's going to be halfway Monday by the time, uh, the season's over. Uh, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll make that two and a half and take the giants. Okay. I never, I never take the giants because it's always 13 to 13 in the fourth quarter. I'm taking the giants, two and a half. Thank you. Does that mean I'm up? That's right. Hmm.

And I'm at the point where I don't know who to pick, when in doubt, and I'll know who to pick by Sunday. I'll take the Ravens. Baker Mayfield's 0 and 5 against the spread against the Ravens. Wow. It's a lot of points. What's the, what's the line on the windbed app currently? Currently says minus 13.

Fuck, man. All right. Is that official? Lock it in? It is official that's Baker Mayfield, right? Yes. He's playing. Yeah, give me the Ravens.

I really like that Dallas pick. Give me the Ravens. Give me the Ravens. I'll tell you what I'm thinking long and hard about, though. The Packers. Short week. Christian Watson's fast all of a sudden. Mm-hmm.

Aaron Jones was a beast the other night. I'm going to take the Niners Monday night minus, what is it on the win bet? 15? It's eight. Eight. Favors are four and all against the spread of Mexico City games all time. Wow. Okay. All right.

Okay. How should people at home play this Blizzard in Buffalo? I think you just let that number torpedo and then take the over. Currently at 42. I bet it gets down to 40 or 39 by the end of the week and then we hammer the over.

I've got to ask you guys. about a game. I'll ask you about it right now because I'm not going to take it. The Philadelphia Eagles are laying six and a half in Indianapolis. Doesn't Philly win that game even without Goddard? Don't they win it win it by double digits even without Goddard? Who warned you about the commanders? You did. Okay. Linville Joseph is going to help. The Eagles just signed them. I don't know how many snaps are going to get out of him, how ready he's going to be. but that run defense does worry me and not having Dallas Gauter worries me a little bit.

So I want the Eagles to roll here and it feels like a place that they probably roll and Indies probably overvalued. But beware, dude, I don't know about that run defense and I don't know about what they look like without Dallas Gauter. That's a big, big missing piece for them.

So if anything, I was looking at the under. So hold on, something's got to give there, Chris, because the under is 14 and 3 in the Colts last 17 games. The under is like not great in Eagles games, right? Four straight Eagles games have gone over. Yeah, but no Dallas Goddard. Colts games this year, eight and two to the other.

New coach. Somebody put together a montage of what it takes to get this dude's picks out every for the last three. You guys are fucking fat. We had him dressed up as Jesus. Chris is just bad. We had him screaming his mouth off. Now he can't make a decision. And he's going to yellow pads and trapper keepers.

Keepers. Atlanta Falcons at home. minus three. It's Chicago Bears. I don't like it either. I don't like any of this shit. I'm so trained. These picks are not going to hit.

One of Atlanta or New York is going to cover. Just watch a time machine to Sunday where it's time to fire. Yeah. Pittsburgh's fine. So I'm going two and one this week. I'm going two and one. It's fine. You're like Steve Spagnolo when we used to go four and oh in preseason.

You know? Thursday's preseason for us. Hey, can you scroll up on that document? How excited? he used to get, Chris. Oh, we're going to be so good. We're going to be so good. Four and O.

Undefeated in the preseason. It's going to be great. Rescue me. Somebody. Nope. Nope. Just going to spend like pretty much your whole career there. Nope.

Yep. That, yep. Gold pants. Yellow light bulbs in the Edward Jones dome. Here's a matchup for you. Yeah. One v. one matchup. Kevin O'Connell against expectations.

You go to Buffalo and win the game. Did you write that one down? Yeah, I wrote it down. It's on my piece of paper here. And now you're at home and you're a dog to the Dallas Cowboys who just lost to, I guess it's kind of not really working with the whole expectations thing. Are we still waiting for your third pick?

No, I said Atlanta. Atlanta, Atlanta. Good God. The point stand. The Vikings don't lose football game. So how does he manage that with the old ball club? Really don't like that Atlanta pick. I don't like my Baltimore pick.

Okay. Yeah, kind of like Carolina there. Oh, that's who I should have taken. Yeah. I don't like my Baltimore pick. I really want to change it to... I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to get Waffleitis here.

You're just going to stick with our guns and we're going to try to win that Sunday. Okay. So that's that guys. Helix mattress. Who's sleeping great? I got one. Go ahead.

Gino Smith, bye week. He's bawled out this year, sitting on a nice contract. Gino Smith is sleeping really well. His counterpart in Munich, Tom Brady. Week off. First place. Yeah. Empty house.

Yep. Hey, Steve, I want to float this for the 15th time this week because nobody seems to get it. Philadelphia Eagles send the New Orleans first round pick to L.A. for Aaron Donald and some other stuff after this season. Wow. What do you think about that,

Steve? If you were less need, would you trade Jalen or would you trade Aaron? They need what is that? What is it? We did it the other night. It's a slot of number five, right? Right now. So it's a quarterback pick. Yeah. Would you do it?

If I was the Rams? If you were less need. Aaron's 31 years old. Get that haul, baby. Jen Aaron's 28 years old. Send those guys somewhere where they can win. Do them a favor. Yeah.

Okay. Who's sleeping well? Aaron Donald. He gets to escape after the season if we're GM. If we're GM, we're sending Aaron to like Pittsburgh or Philly, you know, somewhere closer to home. No, who's sleeping well?

Let's see. Justin Herbert, I think, sleeping. pretty well. He might get one or two targets back this weekend. He always plays well against Kansas City. I think they're sitting in a spot where nobody's going to give him a chance, even with the things that we talked about. And they're at home. And his ribs probably feel better. The throws he made the other night, that looked more like it in some spots. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that makes sense.

Yeah. Bandi. Yeah. Sit down, Bandi. We got Mike Williams coming back. We got Keenan Allen. Yeah. Where will the AFC championship game be played? It's a great question. Let's see.

That's a really good question, Steve. God damn, I like the way you think. Probably, I'm going to say Kansas City. Chiefs are currently your one seat by a game. Over the fins. And five teams.

Six teams have three losses. Three losses. I think, if you look at the Kansas City Chief's schedule, the rest of the way. Texans, two against the Broncos. Right. Rams.

This is a big game for them. Big game. Big game. They're going to win 2721. Wow. And I'm going to push. Wait. Is it six and a half? It's five and a half. No, I'm going to lose. I'm going to push

because I bought the half point. I just said it. I said the score. That's going to be the fucking and score, dude. It'll make for a great social. Yeah, but the, yeah, exactly, and who cares? The Chiefs, I think with their schedule the rest of the way, the Super Bowl probably, to get there, it probably goes through Kansas City.

Week 15, Buffalo hosts Miami. That's probably a big one. That's a huge game. San Francisco's going to play Miami here coming up. There's a few of these games. The Jets the second time around, like Miami's been playing really, well, but I do want to see some of these

these heavy hitter games late in the season and same thing for the Jets. The Jets are rolling and all that, but you've got to beat the Patriots. There's some unanswered questions. Jets season on the line this week. Man, don't sleep on the Ravens. They don't play anybody the rest

of the way. That motherfucker could go through Baltimore, Baltimore. Stanford, Steve. Ballmer, that's all they said. Yeah. Baltimore. Bottomore. I don't know if either or that was correct.

Ballmer is correct. Must not spend much time in Baltimore. You can ask Scott. All right. Scott Van Pelt. We'll tell you to take care now and wish you luck. I'll let you guys go. With Stanford Steve, we're talking sports.

Take care, Steve. See you guys. Love you, Steve. Love you, Steve. Now, Bo Allen's going to join Chris, and they're going to talk to Vita Vea. Vita share some stories from his time with the Bucks. What kind of teammate Bo was?

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Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Hey, dude, it's good to meet you. I love watching you play. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Bo speaks highly of you. Which is really, can we just start here, which is really

incredible that Bo speaks high. of you because especially for a guy that kind of forced him out the door he he hates everybody he's a hater i'm a hater bo's a giant hater the fact that he doesn't hate you just speaks volumes about your character a pretty good guy yeah because uh i mean i was after uh eagles i was fucking dude i can't even talk after a Vegas trip chris jesus okay well go ahead i have like two i have the two brain cells bouncing around uh but after the super bowl in uh you know, signed a big deal in Tampa and I'm really excited about like, okay, I'm going to be the fucking guy. And then it's like a Thursday. I remember the draft. I get off the plane because

I flew home to Minneapolis. I see Tampa Bay, a buccaneer selected. Vita Vala, noseguard, 11th overall. And I was just like, oh, fuck. I'm just watching this highlight. I was just like, oh, all right, nice. Had fun in Tampa. I couldn't even get my feet wet. Here we are. And I'm out of here. And then two years later. But now we got him on the pod. So we got him on the pod. And Vita, how are you doing, man? You're still jet lagged, bro? I think I'm back on time right now. I'm pretty good. Went to sleep normal time last night, so.

How long was that flight? 10 hours? It was on the way back, it was 10 hours. On the way there, it was about 9. It wasn't bad. It makes you glad you get the win on the way back. Vita was doing high knees on the aisle, just knocking the plane around on the way out there.

Low turbulence. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Buckle up. So where do we start, Bo? What's the first thing we want to ask this guy? I want to ask Vita about the Germany trip because we talked, we phased on a little bit last week, V, because I was just curious about that. And we did, you know, we talked about the Germany trip in Vegas a little bit or the Germany game.

So I want to ask you what you thought of the stadium. It looked pretty electric. Saw, you know, the fans singing. They were drinking out of like glass beersteins, which was pretty sick. Just kind of wondering what you thought of the trip overall and if it was a pretty cool experience. To me, it was a good experience. I think I had a better a better trip to Germany than when we went to London a few years back. It was fun. I got out. We got to explore. Nice. Ended up having a beer. It was like one in Rome. It's like a one in Rome moment to have a beer. You have to, right? But yeah, the stadium was pretty dope. It was pretty sick when they started playing like the music. and the whole stadium was just saying.

I'm sure you guys saw it. NFL had been posting it, but... I saw Sweet Caroline. Country Road. Country Road. Yeah, Country Road was pretty sick. I think the only bad part was the field. I think the soccer players, they love the field to be real slick

because the ball slides a little faster and easier for them. So before us, it was trashed. Like the field was like we were just slipping everywhere. During pregame warmup, we were doing like a reach drill. And I came to get off and I fell straight on my face. Messed my mind up for the whole game. Like the whole time during pregame warm up, I'm thinking, I was like, dang, if I slip and fall, that's a big-ass gap.

Yeah, I don't think a field has ever, that soccer field has never seen somebody of your size on it, Vita. No, you know what's funny? It's so true. When we went to London and played, the first thing we noticed, and we were asking questions about it, was really like, why does the grass feel different? I can't put my finger on why it's so different. It's kind of like, it's like short and the grass is moist. Like they keep, not that Bermuda.

It's not, yeah, it's not like a dry Bermuda. And it's because they like that soccer ball to just skip over the top of it, evidently. But, I mean, you definitely notice as a big guy. And then the whole question is usually, you know, you can't get these DBs to wear the right cleats. because they got to be swaggy out there and they got to have their little... You know what I mean? The funny thing was, right when we came off the field

after pre-game warm-up, I see everybody walking down the hallway and I was like, where's everybody going? The locker's right here. And someone would turn around. I was like, they're all going to get seven studs. Mm-hmm. You know it's bad if the DVs are going to get seven studs.

So, yeah, good job staying off the ground, my guy. I think out of wood's was bigger than me. Oh, yeah, yeah. I feed him out there. How he's a big boy. I feed him out there. I looked at a straight coach. I was like,

I think I wouldn't. I think he's a little bigger than me. That's a big cat. That's a big cat for sure. Vita, you talked a little bit about that London trip, dude. That food that we had in London was horrible.

I'll never forget that. Like around the hotel, around like we went out to eat at like a nice spot. What was it called? The O3 or whatever? Oh, two? Yeah, it was like that big hub of,

I don't even remember, dude. That trip was a blur. You know, we're in the air for like eight hours. and then on the ground for like 12. And remember we flew overnight, then we went right into a walk through the next day practice.

We're like, what the fuck are we doing? But you said you got to get out a little bit in Germany, have a beer. How's the food? Any good? We really didn't get to eat much. We were like, the guys I was with, they wanted to go shopping. So I was like, I was just going around with them hanging out.

You know, got a couple of cigars that we got to bring back from there. There you go. What's it called? We walked past the art store. We walked in. Nacho wanted to go in. We went in. Who went in?

Who was like, what are we doing in here? It was a funny thing. I ended up buying some art. I found some... What did you get, dude? That German art. I just asked the lady.

I was like, you guys ship? And she was like, yeah, we'll ship it. And I was like, all right, this piece of art looks pretty dope. Let me get it. And then... You got to send me a picture that when you get it in. Yeah, I'll send you a picture. That shit's going to get stuck in.

customs, bro. She was right down. She was writing down the price for, like, shipping. And, like, I don't know, like, I don't know, like, German math or whatever. But the way she wrote it down, she wrote 300,000 on the paper. I was like, that fucking German math, man. Yeah.

I was like, whoa, for shipping? And she was like, no, no, no, no, 300, 300. I was like, $300. $300. And she's like, yeah. I was like, all right. Yeah, dude. They got that international.

Just tricky out there, dude. What can you say about Devin White, man? We were talking a lot about him just how fast he plays, sideline to sideline. It's got to be something to see him in person running and hitting. I mean, it's so fun to watch on TV, and I know he had to go through a lot last week. I mean, I heard he found out about the passing of his dad,

getting on the plane to go to Germany. That's a lot for a player to do, period, get on the plane and go play in another country. To do that with a heavy heart and to play the way he did, You know, were you surprised by that? Definitely. Like, when we seen them, I think a few of us found out early. But, you know, obviously we didn't say anything to him.

Just wanted to give him the space. But I think the way he carried himself, he carried himself in a way, like, as nothing happened. But, you know, he was strong about it. He still went out there and performed to a high level. He still played. He was still the same person that we knew before. even though that for anybody in that situation, that'd be hard. Yeah, I mean, it's impossible.

Football's an emotional game, man. We all know that. When you have stuff going on like that off the field, it can be impossible. But it's amazing, though, how people do compartmentalize shit. I mean, we are really good at that as players, man, because we've all dealt with things, you know, and just to see him do that, it just impressed me even more about the kid. I call him a kid.

He's not a kid, but like the young man, he just, he just plays so fast, and to do that with a heavy heart was pretty remarkable. And you guys in general did a great job on Kenneth Walker, and I wonder what the key to that was and what you saw from him in person, because he's going to be a really good player. He already is. I think, yeah, he's a real good running back. I think part of it was the grass.

I think if we played here in Tampa, it could have been a different story, but, you know, who knows? But, you know, I feel like we've been, ever since both been here as well, we've been like a top run defense. I think that was been the biggest thing about us to, you know, get back to that because we've been giving up too many yards

in the rush defense. And I feel like we started getting back to that last week and then this week. So you want to say that, but then you also want to say, you know, there's still that bad grad that we played on. that could have played a factor as well. Grass in Germany, it was the 12th man.

You think he just couldn't make his cuts and bounce it? Like, you know how he bounced to the perimeter and he can kind of make those big cuts? Like, do you think it was just he couldn't stick his foot in the ground as well as he might have, you know? It could have been that or it could have been, you know, it could have been us playing well. Yeah.

Just like, you know, Bo knows our defense, like every gap is accounted for it. I feel like after seeing the film, I feel like we were all did a good job. I was doing that. I felt like what helped was the grass because we didn't really play vertical. We were playing lateral because we didn't want to flip. So I'd play a shade where normally I'd play vertical and knock the centerback where

when I was playing on this past Sunday, I was down near two gaping it as a shade because I didn't want to, I didn't want to stop and fall. That's fucking interesting, dude. That's interesting you say that, Vita, because I don't know if you've seen this, but like there's been a big kind of push through. like the NFLPA lately to get rid of turf, you know, and like practice on grass. And the, you know, Ray J's grass here in Tampa, the Bucks practice facility is probably some of the best grass, some of the best, you know, most really, really well-maintained grass on a practice

field I've ever played on. So it's interesting to hear that, you know, you say that it's such a factor. But yeah, I mean, like you said, the Bucks defense with Todd Bowles and then Casey Rogers, who's, you know, Vita's D-Line coach, who's, well, I think one of my favorite coaches I've ever had, best coaches I've ever had. They are 100% committed to stopping the run. I'll never forget when we went to Seattle in 2019 V and Chris Carson ripped off that like, you know, 70-yard run and that we heard about it every watch that clip every single week, you know, for the rest of the season because Casey was so mad about it. But yeah, I want to ask a little bit about that. How's it going with Bulls as a

head coach, you know? And then Casey kind of stepped into more of a defensive coordinator role because I really love Casey. He is truly one of my favorite. coaches that I've been around. I think he's a really good Deelon coach. I think overall it's still the same. Nothing's really changed except for his title. He still, he still, he still, coaches the same. He's still the same, like, meeting when we go to the defensive meeting, Bulls still running it. He's still gone to play. But as far as Coach Casey, I feel like he, he's, they've given him a bigger role in that department. He definitely given him. with Casey, like, if you're not prepared for the game,

then with Casey, then I don't know what to tell you. Because he definitely... You're going to be the culprit. If you're not prepared, you're going to be the culprit. He literally gives you every single, every information, all the information you need from A to Z, from like every personnel group that they run, from formations in the backset, from Olin.

I feel like just to have it. him as a coach, like you said, I think he's one of the best coaches I've ever had as a D-E-Petman. Just going out there and be able to, especially now being my fourth year with him, it's like my knowledge for the game is like, it's crazy.

You were with me in my rookie year and I came in off of like a college mindset. All I knew was two gap. You don't even know what you don't know when you're a rookie man. And then like later, you wish, I mean, I think every football player has this where like later in their

career like god damn if i could just travel back in time i knew all this shit now but you can't because you're physically shot i'm sitting there in philly like god damn this is i'm so smart right now yeah you have to later in your career yeah you need all those tools whereas like earlier your career i remember vita came out like i mean i don't want to get too deep in this but like vito's on i r who's injured for like the first part of the season or whatever and then like came out against the bears i can't even remember like week five or six like had barely practiced and was just fucking malling dudes like Humping people like double arm

Humps left and right and throwing dudes around Just be like oh my God what the fuck is going on I think you texted me after that you were like yeah it's not good He's this kid's really good He's really good We're just like what the fuck But yeah I mean it is great to see how long you Or how far you've come along V

7 sacks this year Seven sacks those are edge rush your numbers What the hell's going on down there dude? I know I got I hit a streak All of a sudden All of a sudden That's crazy.

I think my season high has always been four. So I think that's like a big achievement for me right now. Do you have an incentive clause for like sacks? Like do you have an escalator based? No, because rookie deals do they not have those incentive clauses? No. I wish I would have put some in there for it to get a better APY, but I didn't. Yeah, dude.

Yeah. What do you win it with? I saw the inside. I see the, like, you got a cross chop on like a two-eye. You know what I'm talking about? A couple times. I think against the Rams. You know what I'm saying?

I think they had a, well, their left guard was out. And then. He was bad. He was good, but. It was, it was the whole, it was basically I set it up for it. The whole game, I was like just bull rushing and then rushing through the B gap. And then I felt that, well, we got the call. Well, you know, normally, like, when you get a third down call,

you have to stay in, like, your gap because they're blitzed over there. So, like, that was the first call I got all game where, like, I had a two-way go. So I was, all right, I've been bullrushing and working them through a big gap, the whole game. So I, like, widened my alignment. He jumped out to me, and I swam. He thought he. Yeah. You beat the center too on that, too.

He thought he had to center help, but the center was late. So, Vito, I played with Tom. He's cool, man. I think, you know, he's really intense, but I think he's a good dude, man. And I've never seen him go through what he's gone through on the field this year. You know, like it's been a struggle. Like, you know, you guys have looked offensively a lot better. I know you're playing defense and that sort of thing.

It's not your job to talk about the offense. But what's it like seeing Tom kind of grind through this stuff? Have you learned anything from Tom? with how he's handled the adversity and like have you seen that leadership kind of come to fruition at the midway point of this season because it looks like y'all are figuring some things out yeah um he he's definitely been i feel like that's hard for any any any any any guy to go through that um so i think he's been handling well uh i ran into him one time in the hallway talked to him about it and you know he he was he was in good spirits about it um even though it's tough for him but

He's doing good. I think another thing that's probably like hurting him is like a lot of injuries on the opposite side, a lot of a lot of the O-line are down. I'm not saying anything bad about our all-line playing right now. I'm probably doing a good job the best they can, but I think it's just the chemistry.

Yeah. As all three of us know, like the center pretty much runs the everything for the O-line. and I think even talking to our Robert Hainesie that's starting center now he said he's been learning week by week like different stuff that he didn't know that Tom wanted to do like calling out the protection like he went out there called it he told me like he went out there like said 5-0 5-0 and then Tom y'all of them like that's how I go my stack on Lamar Jackson because they had a rookie

a rookie center and then the whole the whole week the game finals like they're going to run shit out the ball and I went out there and it was like we're in a bare front and I got that I was in my two gaps dance center came up lined up he said five oh he was like five oh five oh five oh I was like yep you shouldn't have told me that yeah then you know that's the best man I want to point this out Vita see you came in with the Zoom tag the butter squire my guy yeah some some things don't change back to our cahute days yeah exactly we used So wait, so is, do you consider Bo the Butter King?

Because that's what he calls himself. Is that stolen valor or something, Vita? Like, is he full of shit? Is there another Butter King somewhere? No, he's always, he's always, he's always been the Butter King. My guy. My rookie year, we used to have this thing called Cahoot or like it'd be like a game where you like, dumbest fucking thing in the entire world.

But yeah, sorry. Yeah, it was dumb. It was dumb. Like everybody on defense will log in and you do like a like a test and it was like the dumbest defense of ever to like whatever and bow will always win but it never said bow allen it always said the butter king every every every every every every first couple times everyone's like who the fuck is the butter king they're like yeah I'm the fucking that's me what bo kept bo kept winning and everybody else kept like typing up butter king because bo kept winning the test every team like oh yeah it was me this week and

then I started I started I started doing it and put like the butter squire because it got to a point where people were just cheating like yeah one like Cahoot imagine so like Cahookeh got big in like people are doing like high schools and shit and our fuck is Cahookehs. It's like a it's like a it's like a little trivia thing that you can do like they'll be like if you're the five technique and under and you know the tight end gets up and like shit like that. Oh. to answer, you know what I mean? They'll show like an offensive play. And it'll be like three seconds long. And then you'll only get to see it once.

And you have to try for the whole thing. Yeah, I'll give you like, I don't know, like some personnel stuff. But it's like, imagine like, you know, JPP doing Kahoot. I got, hey, Peter, I got, I got a question, you know, because you're so unique, man. There's like nobody like you. I mean that was a compliment. Appreciate it. Yeah, and I know that part of watching film is you want to watch people that you can take things from.

And then you can be like, yeah, I can model my game after this guy. But you're so unique. I have, I would imagine you're kind of like, well, who's my comp? Like, who do I? What do you watch? You watch other guys? Who do you like to watch? You know, like in other guys that you can take things from?

Normally what I like to do is I like to watch the pressures on on linemen, especially on centers and guards. If there's a move that I see like a guy went on and if I keep seeing them getting beat by that mood that I know that's like that center, he's like, all right, I'm really good at this move. He can't handle power or he can't handle a hump.

Like this past week in Lentah or in Germany, Brady Jared, he ran like a clip stunt where he went from one game A gap to the other A gap and got a sack. And there was a play where I was a guy in the boundary A and started to play, I had to go to the opposite A. And I was like, all right, this is what I'm going to beat him. And I thought I beat him and the guard came back. So it's like different stuff like that I feel like I've won to. obviously there's also like guys that I watch like Palloti

Yeah that's one I mean I remember mentioned that to you You know your rookie year in Phoenix I'll never remember that's when Aaron Donald was popping off and Buck Our D-line coach at the time Brentson Buckner our defense was in bad shape that year okay that was 2018 We had a super injured defense blah blah blah but like buck puts up all these clips of like Aaron Donald like Beating the fuck out of guys like winning with like these redshift ridiculous moves, these swipes, and he's like, looking at me, and he's like, why aren't you doing this? Like, you should be doing this. Why aren't you doing this, bow?

And I'm like, what the fuck, man? Like, first of all, look at me, bro. Like, what? Yeah. Casey, Casey did that this past. I want to say this past year, we were watching, like, this sack real. And I forgot who were playing. And there was like, A.B. was killing the guard. And he was like, he was like, he was like, look at this guy.

Being in the power. How much is you wait? Like 270? And we're all like got quiet. We're all like looking at each other. This is the biggest freak in nature. He really might weigh 270 though. Honestly, I want to say this.

Like one time I said on the pod that Aaron Donald was like 300 pounds or something because I was saying like he's jacked. I mean, he's jacked no matter how much he weighs. Like he's got abs on top of abs. And when he was in St. Louis, he wasn't that trim. He texted me. He's like, bro, I'm like 270. So like it is.

He's listening to everything. Well, no. We put it out on social. and he was laughing. He was like, bro, you're giving me too much credit, which is crazy to me that somebody, that light, plays with that much power.

But he's literally made of something else. I know, it was crazy. So when we played them two weeks ago, it was just wild. It was like wild watching them play. Yeah. It forced Tom to like quick pass. Every check down.

He always got to know where he's at. And it was crazy. He literally went down the line and won every single rep. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah. And he's so frantic. He's so frantic. And it was funny.

Leonard Furnett was telling us, like, all it, like, he was talking so much shit during the game. He said, like, he said, one thing to one of the old line, and he was like, how much they fucking pay you? He was like, they're paying me that. And he got a fucking sack after he said. No, he did not. I bet you it was Donovan. No, he did not, bro. That's amazing.

I love hearing AD. A.D., because when he was a rookie, he wasn't talking that kind of shit. He was talking shit, but he wasn't talking that kind of. kind of shit. So it was good, good to hear Aaron knows his worth. I don't want to know where these celebrations are coming from lately because that's a new thing, man. The swim, the belly flop and the swim. Oh, the lawnmower. That was fucking funny. The lawnmower killed me. So I was saying, we got to get you a lawnmower deal. It was Pat's dad, Pat's dad like, uh, Pat's dad hit me up because so Pat, funny story, Pat told me like his dad, Pat's from Chicago. He's talking about Pat

O'Connor is a defensive lineman for the box. Yeah, so his dad lives out there in Chicago, and basically on their free time, Pat told me that him and his dad's, him and his dad's friends, they get shit-faced at night on the day off, and they wake up the next morning and go to, like, different, like,

whatever, like yard sales and buy, like, lawnmores and try to fix them on a day. He said they're just getting shit face all day fixing lawnmores and then and then pat's dad called me one day. Pat's cat, his dad called me one day and he was like he's like, hey, if you get a sack today, do the lawnmower.

The funniest part though is like you do the lawnmower and then like you're like running with it or walking with it and then you start just sprinting to the sideline. Because I look, I look so we're in for like a long, a long, it was a long series. Then I end up getting a sack and it ended up being like third and long. I looked to the sideline, I've seen two dudesubbing in, like, signaling nickel. And I'm like, oh, shit. I've got to go. Turn that speed on that lawnmower.

Yeah, we need to get you. Can you do a ride-on lawnm? I don't know how you would do this, but you've been doing the push. I wonder how you could do a ride-on. That'd be something else. If you figure that out, you might. You might have weight limits on those bad plays. No, I've seen some solidly built ride-ons.

And honestly, what both said is true. need an endorsement with like John Deere or something. We'll see what we can do. Yeah, we'll see what we can do. We'll make a little mock-up on swimming. That's hilarious. And then the swimming thing came from whenever the defense, you know how defense is like they have different celebrations.

Every time the defense got a celebration or a turnover, everybody would run to the end zone and start rowing the boat. Yeah. So to line up one behind each other and roll the boat. And then one game, I just ran up to the boat and acted like I was swimming, like, right by side. And then that's where it started from. Foot, Coach Larry Foote, he yelled at me one game because I got a sack. I didn't celebrate.

And he was like, De LaVita. He's like, we need that fucking energy. He said, you know, he started swimming again. All right. See, that's what people don't realize, man. It's like, you got these room, this room of D. Lyman who was like, you know, great athletes, like big, scary motherfuckers. But actually it's just a bunch of children.

It's a child care. It's like a children playing a game. It's a daycare center. D-line coaches are like daycare center people, bro. I feel like D-Lyman across the league are just the class clowns of the game. Totally, man. When I was, when we were in St. Louis, we used to lay on the ground and watch film. Like our coach would let us lay on the ground.

He would let guys be on their cell phones from. time to time. Yeah, bro. It was like a totally different. Yeah. It was a different. No, so, so, uh, one of our D-N's, Will Gosten, him and Bo used to sit next to each other on the plane. And Bo, or in, uh, and Will is lactose intolerant. He, Bo woke up and looked at Will and seen him eating like a, uh, ham and cheese sandwich or whatever. And all you hear is just Bo, Will, did you just fucking eat cheese? You get that shit out of here, bro. We're flying to L.

We're flying to LA and the whole time, Bo is just, he just lined them up. And then on the way back, everyone, everybody's trying to sleep on the way back. And, like, Bo had extra headphones for Will, but Will didn't want him. He was just being a dick about it. He was watching this comedy show on his phone full blast. And it was just obnoxiously, like, every time something funny happened, he's... Laughinging so hard. I'm just looking over him like, you motherfucker.

You hear Bo wake up, Bole, like, Bole, like, Will, I got fucking headphones for you. And the D-Bs want to say something, but they're worried about pissing y'all off. Can y'all shut the fuck up back there? No, but a D-Line room is really like a fucking room. We run the building, but we run the building. We're a bunch of kids, but we run the building. And you know if no one in that, if, like, there's one guy in that room that's unhappy about something, you know, like towards something else in the building, like everyone else is going to hop on more.

We take, hey, we love to complain. We love to bitch about stuff. We love to, you know, if you, yeah, you get it all at a D-Lod room. So, yeah, man. So, Vita, we just wanted to wish you luck, man, and appreciate you coming on. We hope you come on again after one of your next couple wins because you guys look to be turning the corner. I'm pulling for you all.

So thanks for joining us. Yeah, no problem. I really appreciate it. I hope you come on again, man. Good luck the rest of the way.