Green Light with Chris Long - We Hated The Cowboys-Packers Ending, Ravens Are Lost & Eagles Still Undefeated | NFL WK4 Reactions

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

Another week of a ton of football in the books! The Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys rolled a hell of a Sunday Night Football game that ended in a hotly contested tie in Micah Parsons return to Da...llas. The Philadelphia Eagles, behind a great first half from Jalen Hurts, remain undefeated after beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield. AJ Brown, while being targeted 9 times, dropped an interesting quote on social media after the game. Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs got back to being themselves with the return of Xavier Worthy but the Baltimore Ravens look lost, especially with Lamar Jackson suffering a hamstring injury. Jaxson Dart and the Giants handed the Chargers their first lost, the Texans got a win and the Steelers won in Ireland. Plenty of talk on those football games from Chris, Beau and Nate...AND MORE! (00:00:00) Intro: NFL Week 4 Reactions (00:02:55) SNF: Green Bay Packers at Dallas Cowboys (00:22:40) Pittsburgh Steelers vs Minnesota Vikings (00:32:25) Philadelphia Eagles at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (00:56:10) LA Chargers at New York Giants (01:10:30) Baltimore Ravens at Kansas City Chiefs (01:24:35) Indianapolis Colts at LA Rams (01:33:10) Jacksonville Jaguars at San Francisco 49ers (01:45:50) Tennessee Titans at Houston Texans (01:50:00) Washington Commanders at Atlanta Falcons (01:54:35) New Orleans Saints at Buffalo Bills (01:57:00) Cleveland Browns at Detroit Lions (02:04:10) Carolina Panthers at New England Patriots (02:12:00) Chicago Bears at Las Vegas Raiders (02:02:40) Locals Landline (02:21:30) MNF Preview Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, I knew I was f***ed when Rogers hit a smelling salt and then just ripped a dart for like to feed that Maccalf. I want to shout out Tyler Smith. He fucking saved the ball game. Dart shouted out Russell Wilson after the game and said, man, this week must have been real tough. Like, he's a professional. I appreciate him. Do you know how far that fucking goes, dude? What's a D-line tweet?
Starting point is 00:00:22 D-line tweet? Yeah, yeah. We're kind of like... Boats and ho! Boats and ho! Welcome to the Green Light podcast. NFL week four reactions. We've got Chris, Nate, and Bo ripping it around the NFL.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Eagles take care of the bucks. The chiefs tame the Ravens. And we had one hell of a Sunday night football game. Ended in a tie. Micah made his plays, but Jerry got a laugh as well. Enjoy it, and we'll catch it later this week. That's honestly, that sounds like some stuck in traffic. shit. It sounds like some shit that I used to hear on the radio when I was a wee lad in
Starting point is 00:01:45 Southern California. And, you know, we were stuck in traffic. And that's what happened to me today. Evidently, the entire city of Charlottesville was in a single car accident. And the whole the roads were shut down and everything. So I'm sorry, we're late. I ordered DoorDash. Traffic. Traffic, traffic, looking for my chapstick. STL Memorial, I'm eating a peanut butter toasty right now. I'm sorry. I got to get a peanut because my DoorDash number came because I ordered it like 12, 15. And the woman is still stuck in traffic.
Starting point is 00:02:23 She's like, I'm just, I'm looking at her car. It hasn't moved in an hour and a half. Worst it. My avocado toast is browning. And I was like, hey, you can just take it to the office. She was like, I can't go anywhere right now. She's just like stuck with my smoothie. He's probably drinking it.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I don't blame you. Probably tuned into the live stream. Shout out to whatever her name is. Damn, she's still there. Like, where are you going? Damn, son. Shout out to Darsia. All right, so here we are.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Welcome back to another Greenlight Monday live. We've got Dr. Fax here. We've got Noel. in here. We got Cowboy Reed. We got Joe Allen on the on the big screen here. Tanner behind the machines. Who do you think's the most hungover person on the whole team
Starting point is 00:03:17 today? Yeah, what time did your night end last night? I got the Honolulu flu today, brother. Yeah. I fell asleep watching an absolute electric Packers Cowboys game.
Starting point is 00:03:37 that somehow ended up in the most boring way imaginable. So my night ended at about midnight last night. So your night ended like 20 minutes before the game ended. Like so you woke up this morning and found out it was a tie like a kid? No, I woke up. Aiden and Ralph stayed over. We were all watching the game on the couch, fell sleep, woke up at like right as the game ended. It was just me down there.
Starting point is 00:03:59 They'd gone up to bed. I was so confused. Where am I? How is this game tied? What is happening? You know, like the meme with Robin Williams, your mind years like what year is it that's kind of how I felt yeah
Starting point is 00:04:10 a little rip van winkle situation for and you were at the the bucks eagle so we'll talk about that in a little bit but like we should probably start with Sunday night football oh oh what a game what a game and honestly like what a tie
Starting point is 00:04:26 you know did I feel dumb at 1220 in the morning sort of like I felt kind of stupid because like nobody won but I've been in those situations with a helmet and shoulder pads on. Like it's nothing compared to how stupid you feel when you played the football game. And like there's nothing you can do to, you can't be mad, you can't be happy. So how do you feel in the locker room and or are you judging the way your teammates are reacting to a tie?
Starting point is 00:04:58 If maybe, if you're not cool, if you're not cool with a tie, if someone's in the locker room like, yeah, like I play great, I feel great. Like we didn't lose so it's all good Whereas some people might be like man fuck that tie I think most people like we tied the Niners and like flew back and it was a weird flight It was a weird flight I was so shook by the tie that I had I got kind of blackout drunk and that was the game That um that I stumbled getting onto the bus off the airplane And like fell up the stairs and I looked up and Jeff Fisher was sitting right there and he was like like he was like um played a great game today Chris
Starting point is 00:05:41 he was legit and it was one of my best games and like we fucking tied like it was terrible and I was last night Macon texts me at like you know 12 21 a.m. and he goes to his credit he was like he was like George Pickens does not know the rules to overtime or I'll eat my hat and then like 30 minutes later he said me a tweet that it's like a post game interview with George Pickens. He's like, I didn't know the NFL work like that. That is, look, my fly in the wall, my fly in the wall is, would be, if I could be in George Pickens brain, him trying to wrap his head around how they lost that game because he definitely thought that that game was over and that he had the game winning touchdown.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I wonder, I wonder did he think that, you know. He thought he won that game. He thought he won that game. Yeah, well, I mean, it ends up, it ends up being a, you know, like a thriller at the end of the thing. And I don't know, you could probably talk about this from the perspective. First off, I don't know, you know, when I break down a game now, I'm trying to be very cognizant to the Detroit Lions rule. Lions fans, you guys are, you guys are definitely making your mark on the show. I'm trying to talk about the winning team first
Starting point is 00:07:04 and then the losing team second, right? Because sometimes you come out of a game and like you come out of the Kansas City game yesterday and you're like, I want to talk about how bad the fucking Ravens are too. Like you come out of that game last night. I'm like, who gets to go first? I guess we'll talk about it from the perspective of the favorite. You know, first.
Starting point is 00:07:23 The Packers twice in a row now have kind of tricked it off. And I know the Cowboys did a lot to earn that tie and Dak Prescott is fucking, he's sensational, criminally, like overrated and underrated at the same time, you know, because Cowboys fans are everywhere and they think he's Joe Montana. But I think the rest of the country, because he quarterbacks for the Cowboys, like, they hate him.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And he's a stud. He's always been a stud. And now he's leading this Cowboys team that looks a lot like we talked about it, the Bengals team last year. Like they're going to have to win the game. Exactly who they are. 43 to 40 or whatever if they can win them.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But the Packers have blown it the last two weeks. Last week you talk about third and three, Jordan Love throwing that pick. You got to make the Cleveland Browns drive and tie the football game at that point or beat you. They don't do that. They turn the ball over. The Matthew Golden thing where he runs out of bounds,
Starting point is 00:08:22 like these are the little things that are difference between winning and losing and obviously getting a kick block last night that goes the other way for two. giving up a long return late in the game. Special teams was terrible. The fucking, the clock management was awful at the end of that football game. And so, you know, like, when I talk about LaFleur being one of the best coaches in the league, that's not what I'm, that's, that's not the Matt LaFleur I know.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And maybe that's, maybe there's a pattern with the way this football team plays where it's like they're not going to realize their talent because they make mistakes like this. I think offensively they're great. The scheme's always been on point. They always come out of the gate with a great script. They're one of the best first half teams in the NFL offensively. They're balanced the whole thing. The Malik Willis thing last year. But like the clock management at the end of that game was truly mind-blowing.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I mean, Chris Collinsworth, the ball's in the air and he's like, you're going to lose the game. Like the balls in the air in Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth, they cannot buy. believe it, or Toriko and Chris Collinsworth. They're like, they cannot believe he threw that football. Got a lucky bout. They did. That's what they said. The fact that it bounced down instead of up.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Incredibly. It hit him right in the back of the head. It might not hit the ground if it didn't hit the player, yeah. If it doesn't hit the ground, maybe the clock runs out. If it bounces up in the air versus if it hits the back of his shoe and bounces in the air. Anything. There was a two and two football team. Now, from the other side of it, you could say, like, hey, you know, last week they got a kick blocked.
Starting point is 00:10:03 You know, this week, they get a kick blocked. But these are the details, man. Like, teams are losing on fucking kicks, man. See, that's what I was talking about last week, America's team with the special team coaches. It's one of those weeks now. Like, you can't go two weeks getting kicks blocked. Like, that's how people lose jobs. That's how stuff gets, like, that's how the water gets real.
Starting point is 00:10:27 muddy because that's what killed the bucks yesterday that pump block destroyed the box special teams has been we'll get there but like that's been a atrocious yeah yeah we got to lock in on those plays and that's rich rich besotchy everybody's favorite special teams coach but it you know like the and golden i think golden's going to be um a really valuable piece for them but he's got i mean like who catches a kick and goes immediately hits circle on the PS5 controller Dude, that was, it's decapitated. He's got the ball. He runs backwards in, you know, on offense.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like he's, you don't see that shit. Dude just don't do that. The answer is me. I would do that. I know, but like, and, and I, it's like Chris, you know, you're trying to take an inside spin move and you're doing it into the slide. Into the slide. Tackle over stats you.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And then the guard just come and takes your head off. That's like what happened, but the dude had a 30 yard. It says if the guard was running from Cleveland, dude. Like that was you remember seeing that clip of Quentin Nelson and one of the who's the address for the charge of Melvin Ingram I think. Ingram murders him. Oh yeah. That exact same thing. But oh yeah. That was a wild hit. But what I did respect is that he held on to that rock. That's the play that like realistically nine times. I was going to lose the ball. Oh, nine times out of 10 that ball like would be airborne and or the shock of that hit the way he got hit. Like it would just come loose before he hit the ground. And the fact that. He actually held onto the ball. He popped right up.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I was kind of impressed. And I didn't even get to this. The end of the fucking first half, I'm all for being aggressive. And I hate wasting opportunities to go steal a field goal. And they've been good in those situations. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:15 there has to be an internal clock for Jordan Love in that situation. That is the one thing where Dallas has a two for one. They kind of gave him a three for one opportunity. That was crazy. So in so many, ways and I don't know if this is the quarterback needs to tighten it down a little bit or the quarterback and the coach who seemed to have a great relationship need to get on the same page but
Starting point is 00:12:37 multiple situations where okay we're going to put you out there but we have to understand and I didn't love their their use I mean not just playing Russian roulette with the clock late but like how they how it led to that moment you know like they they hurried up and I think through a or was it a timeout? They threw the ball behind the line of scrimmage. I think Golden got smacked for like a four-yard loss. It was a screen, yep. You know, I just was not crazy about the way they went about that end-of-game situation.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We got to talk about Michael Parsons because, like, last night was crazy. You basically had Jerry Jones, like, live streaming the warm-up. Like, I walked in the house to see my kids before the kick, because that's usually what I do. I emerge from our cave. and i go to see my family uh before the 820 starts and uh jerry's on tv i'm like what the fuck and my son's like who is that old man and i'm like uh he owns one of the football teams he's like they don't the guys that own the football teams don't usually do interviews do they i'm like he does them all the time and and he's he's narrating micha parsons coming in the
Starting point is 00:13:48 stadium you just tell like the first possession i think they went run away they bim blocked him and then they tossed away on third and five. I was like, okay, I know no matter what happens in this game, they're not going to let Micah Parsons affect it, but try as they did. And I know there's people, especially Cowboys fans, probably coming away from this game this morning saying, and there is some truth to it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Look, you just went toe to toe with that team without your number one wide receiver. You shipped your best pass rusher away and you 40-40 tie with a team that I think is a contender. But don't tell me Micah Parsons doesn't have an effect. on that game like he is the entire game plan the guy had 10 pressures and basically saved the game in the red zone on you know a sack which he earned through the other 10 pressures uh and people are saying hey we handled micha parsons which to me speaks to what a dominant player he is yeah we took
Starting point is 00:14:45 care of him he only had 10 pressures yeah and we fucking threw a sea of bodies at him every play Now, they did single him up on the shot in overtime, which I thought was impressive. But eventually in a game like that, when you are getting slide and you're getting chipped and you're getting double-teamed, I never had to deal with as much attention as he did. But in the moments where I had to deal with attention sometimes when they mix in a single block, you're like, what the fuck? And you're almost like, you're almost like you're fooled. So I just want to credit Shottie, the run game, the protection. I think Shottie's done a great job. I mean, it's the one thing he said this summer was like,
Starting point is 00:15:25 hey, everywhere I've been, we run the football. They ran the ball up the Packers' ass. And the corners looked like the preseason version of how we evaluated them, which is solid, not great. And so I think just, is it something you got to worry about with the Packers? Certainly, at some point, you're going to worry about the corners.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But I think the Cowboys did a great job of running the football, keeping that front at bay. The Wyatt injury is a big deal. Yep. I don't know what's going on there. Is it just a contusion? Didn't hear anything about that. He left the game. But I want to shout out Tyler Smith. He fucking saved the ball game. Does anybody else remember this? Maybe before you fell asleep, Bo. I was out cold by this point. Micah Parsons, I think maybe it was, I lost track of the possessions at the end of the football game. But the Cowboys, under two minutes driving, trying to score. And third and two, I think it was, Micah beats the right to the left tackle clean. And he's about to take the ball off deck Prescott. And Tyler Smith, you know, he basically whips his head around and be lines for Micah and just gets enough of him. It was like a goalie making a save.
Starting point is 00:16:40 That was, it was incredible. Yeah. It was like Bobarovsky. Because Michael was just going to have to tap. He was just going to have to tap Dax's arm. Dog? Yeah. the ball to be free. And the whole story this morning is completely different. This morning we're
Starting point is 00:16:55 saying like, oh, Jerry, it blew up in his face. The Packers are incredible. This is what they brought him in for. It's just one little play changes the whole thing. That's what I was going to say. That's what's funny about this tie. Like for both teams narrative-wise, like this is probably the best possible situation that could happen. But the real losers are like us as a fans because we know whatever way this game would have went for winners or losers. There's just so much magnitude of narratives on either side if Dallas would have won and Jerry could have been like, yeah, we don't need Micah. You see, we won. And then if Green Bay would have won and Michael would have played well, it would have been everyone on Jerry. Like you see what we did Jerry? See what you did, Jerry? You gave them away.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And like we and now, because it's a tie, it's kind of like. Is it a metaphor for the trade, Nate? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. It's a watch. Usually a lot of these trades like at the end of the day, like, You feel like they're up-callel. You can litigate them, but eventually if neither team wins a damn Super Bowl or whatever it is that they're after, like, nobody wins. Exactly. Or it must have been an equal trade. It must have been an equal trade.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Packers win the trade. You know, for a while there, Kenny Clark made a couple of plays last night. And maybe the worst seat is Kenny Clark because, and I got so much respect for him and he played his ass off last night. But, like, you know, you're kind of the throw in on a trade like that. And now your old team's coming to 10. and they look really good, and you're not enjoying that success they have.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You know, that's just a tough deal, man, but I got a lot of respect for him. You know, the Packers' offensive line could be a problem. Could be a problem. Offensive line issue watch. We're putting them on offensive line issue watch. Savian Williams, just wanted to mention his name. He's the other guy with Romeo Dobs with a hat trick, by the way.
Starting point is 00:18:45 My boy, Big Romeo. Savian Williams, the other guy with the fuck. and the packing peanuts around his helmet. Uh-huh. And he plays like he's a little guy, like he runs around like he's a little guy, but he's like 6-4-225, dude. Like, I'm really interested to see how they use him
Starting point is 00:19:01 as the year goes on. Total stud. They let him throw the ball. I mean, former quarterback. You can do whatever he wants out there. So. I'll ask you this since you've played in a tie
Starting point is 00:19:13 and you probably got immediate question. I don't have a sister. I was just going to say, you don't. I was just going to. Hey, where the hell did that saying come from? A tie is like kissing your sister. And like, what the hell does that mean?
Starting point is 00:19:26 I've never know what it means. Like, what does it mean? I never heard that. That means like ties are better in Alabama, you know? Oh, my God. I'm not really sure what the fuck he was talking. I don't know what he was talking about there. Did you hear his quote when they asked him?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I don't even want to say what he said. It's just too awkward. About how it tastes, right? It's so awkward. It's so awkward. You're white, man. Why's it got to be us whites? Sunshine and glory holes.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And how does it taste? Someone asked him. It's Jerry Jones, you know? What's the quote? Don't you whites us off Jerry Jones? He's a rare white, dude. How does it taste? Yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:20:10 That's out of control, dude. I don't even know what he's talking about. Oh, man, Jerry Jones. Um, anyways, um, tie, tie ball game. Let's, let's do Sunday, huh? Sunday day. Oh, I got to, I got, hold on a second. I got a hold on a minute player.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Oh, yeah. I forgot to tell you, too. Oh, yeah? I hit a plus 40,000 bet. I bet. Do the math for people. Okay, so what, so would you put like 25 cents on it or something? I put $2 and $50.
Starting point is 00:20:45 to win a thousand dollars. That's insane, dude. And that bitch hit. It hit. Romeo Dobbs touchdown, Dak Prescott anytime touchdown. And then I had Jameson Williams for
Starting point is 00:21:01 Giovante Williams to record 100 Russian receiving and Josh Jacobs to record 150. Dude, fuck me, dude. Matthew Golden. Yep. He also took away Wixie's first touchdown. Oh, that. I had that, I went heavy. That's a Tud. That was the
Starting point is 00:21:21 golden. You took that away from me. I'll send you a Venmo. And then and then I also had Robert or I also had a Tucker Kraft, Robert Kraft first touchdown. That's not going to catch. The odds of the Robert Kraft first touchdown. Probably pretty good. The craft. Yeah, the craft thing down at the fucking goal line. So which was funny because he caught the ball and you're like, don't get in, don't get in. Oh my God. I. I've got him. I've got another first touchdown. Also, I think Brandon Aubrey kicking the ball because I got him on my fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I think that in fantasy, if the kicker does one of those kicks, you should get points. You're just trying to make up new stuff now. You just make a new shit up. I think there's something to that, bro. I do. You know, see, you like that. New shit, new shit. The best madden minigame of all time is corner coughing.
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Starting point is 00:23:45 But definitely do that. If you are, I book, speaking of BetMGM, bookended my day with not so great plays Sunday night. I still think the fuck. Somehow I still, I have such confirmation bias. I think the Packers was the right side. And unfortunately the game in Dublin I was on the wrong side of. I just, I did not see this one going the way it did. um you know i knew i was
Starting point is 00:24:14 fucked when rogers hit a smelling salt and then just ripped a dart for like meat with that catcalf i was like godly yeah brooder jones had it hands it too yeah he hands him he takes a whistle and he's like
Starting point is 00:24:27 wham right right you know um pace pace pace like a mad dog and a meat house into you know running into the flat and in dk just goes the distance anyways i thought this was a really good day for the Steelers, you know, especially on a day where, and they didn't know this at this point,
Starting point is 00:24:47 that the Ravens would drop to one and three on the season. And with, you know, the cats tonight, in a showdown with the Broncos, the cats and the horses, you know, you got to figure, if you're the Steelers, you might have a good shot at this thing. That's the way you're thinking this morning. That's the way you're thinking on the plane ride home from sitting in coach on the plane ride home from Ireland, bro. That was maybe best and worst plane ride. I literally have on here that the Steelers are my best and worst playing ride. There you go. And then specifically, your man, Jalen Ramsey, imagine having a seven-hour flight would a hurt, like, would a newly hurt. And dudes walking by being like, are you faking it? Exactly. And then to fake, to do a fake-hurt hamstring celebration
Starting point is 00:25:36 for a touchdown. I knew you had something on that. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, ends up getting taken away and called back. So it's not even a touchdown. And you did that celebration only to get hurt. Yeah. That was crazy. To get to hurt. I saw somebody say,
Starting point is 00:25:53 I saw somebody tweet that like instant karma. I'm like, is that how karma works? Did that hurt anybody? It didn't hurt anybody. It's not karma, but it's one of those things that like, it's just a bad coincidence.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You don't want to joke about being hurt because. It's manifestation. Yeah. It's like not parking in the handicaps. spot. It's like, I don't think it is. It is because it's like you know parking in the handicapped spot. You're objectively a bad person. No, absolutely. But also too like you think the fake hamming things funny. Well, it's just like also in real life like you could be handicapped and have to use that spot. Like so you shouldn't take it. So it's like, it's like. Yeah, but that's where I that's where that's where that's where it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:26:28 It doesn't hold up. Why fake? Why fake an injury just for a celebration laugh or kicks and giggle? Well, I think what I'm saying don't tempt fate. That's that to me is a, it's a, it's a little. It's a little bit different than being like, yeah, you know, you can't walk. I'm going to park in front of Harris Teeter. So, so anyways, I don't, I thought running the ball was a huge part of this thing. I mean, you thought Minnesota'd come in and run the ball. It totally flipped. You thought Minnesota would have them in third and long and that they would struggle in third and long, but it actually flipped, and Minnesota struggled in third and long. Kenny Gamewell looked like a number one running back out there. And, you know, I think Cashman being out certainly hurts Minnesota. You talked about like
Starting point is 00:27:09 the M-E's in the passing game. But Rogers has been getting the ball out all year. That's one thing that, you know, we knew he wasn't going to extend plays or, although his legs looked better than last year, two and a half seconds. It's the best in the league as far as getting the ball out. He was very good in that right yesterday. We talked about how the Steelers, if you're Arthur Smith, you might look at this Steelers team and say, hey, I see some retro Titans potential for us, like where we've got this big
Starting point is 00:27:37 monstrous guy that we can get the ball on a slant and he can go the distance right um you know you know we've got a we can have a run game which they finally got yesterday they got that thing humming um in a quarterback that can play point guard and distribute the football work the seams that sort of stuff like i thought i thought this looked like a professional offense yesterday we talked about some of the issues the wide receivers and in the quarterback have had getting on the same page they're getting better um this was a good day for the offense totally good day for the offense yeah and like what you saw from them it's a recipe they can replicate on a consistent base especially the way rogers is getting the ball out of his hand and and for the defense i mean very opportunistic that's the way they've been all year
Starting point is 00:28:17 um paid and wilson the rundown was huge i'm not sure that minnesota ends up i've not seen a guy with that paint job run that fast maybe ever let alone a linebacker that was incredible um by the way Isaiah Rogers broke the the the the record for since I don't know three almost 24 miles an hour that's crazy dude that's insane and they you remember Chris when you have those metrics and they like put it up in Philly they used to kind of put it up on a board and try to get guys competitive about it I don't think I ever saw anyone beat 22 and so for him to hit that in games in pads and a helmet in game where he was on a seven hour flight the day before whatever in Ireland there that's incredible Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That's like a domestic, that's domestic 25 miles an hour. Maybe there's something with the air, air out there. You're going to make you run a little bit faster. That didn't like, maybe it is. Pometers per hour or what? Over there in Ireland. They might have switched it to kilometers per hour. That's a good point, Bo.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I'm surprised conspiracy facts wasn't on that. No, yeah. So you need to look into that. But that shaved a whole minute off the clock for Minnesota. And I think like it was just too tall a task with that offensive line to try to pick up big chunks. That to me is the lead when it comes to Minnesota. And I thought Pittsburgh did a great job rushing the passer and taking advantage of that. But in a game where you're down, your left guard, who's a rookie. So like the depth behind him, you can assume isn't great. And then you've got your
Starting point is 00:29:44 center ends up with the second concussion of the season. You get Darrasaw back last week. I didn't think he looked great in his debut. Didn't look great yesterday. And then you lose O'Neill. It's like one step forward, two steps back for this offensive line. The same thing that sunk him at the end of last could be the thing that sinks him this year. And so, you know, the good news is Addison's back and he looks good. But I thought this is a statement win for the, for the, for the, the, the Steelers, because that's a good ball coach that they faced him in Kevin O'Connell. And you figured he'd have, you know, a nice, a nice game plan schemed up.
Starting point is 00:30:18 But the game plan did not include being down multiple scores with Carson Wentz being the quarterback. And then the craziest thing about this game is, if you really think about it, if Justin Jefferson doesn't trip when he catches that pass, like he potentially scores on that play, and it's a totally different game. Because they end up, they end up what only kicking a field goal
Starting point is 00:30:39 or not even getting points out of that. And it's just like- I can't remember that was about like three days ago. I know. But when that happened, when he tripped, I was just like, yo, he was about to score. And then they didn't end up scoring a touchdown on that drive.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I was like, that probably might cost them the game and end up being a three-point, game so it's probably and he went off i mean like he had a good day i mean obviously having addison back makes a big difference but if you're minnesota you're in this weird spot man you're in a weird spot oh i have a question yeah but they've been in a weird spot for like it feels like four years seriously so t j watt had an incredible interception in this game yeah he tipped it to himself and we actually for d lineman i don't know if we struck lightning yesterday we had three situations where had like very similar tip it to yourself.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Crosby, him, sexy, Dexy, and Max Crosby. And I was like, I wonder which one was better on the day yesterday, but I just think it's incredible that three guys, that's one of those things as a D. Lyman for anyone out there. If you're not a D. Lyman, like to have a chance to catch your interception is amazing. But you always do these stupid drills in practice, like that happen just like T.J. Watts and these guys interception happens. But it's like, it's literally like catching lightning in a bottom.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Like, like you do it in practice all the time. And in the back of your head, you're just like, this shit's never going to happen. Like, I'm never going to get a chance to tip a ball. It happens. And it's going to come right to me so I can catch it. And then keep running for a little bit, have a chance to score. And that happened three times yesterday. I got tackled by the, I did that in college and got tackled by the Atlanta Falcons,
Starting point is 00:32:26 wide receivers coach TJ Yates and passing game coordinator So that's a real low light for me Oh you didn't score Fuck no I didn't score He well it wasn't a getting caught thing Did you score you did against Maryland
Starting point is 00:32:41 I was at a bar I was so hype watching that game Crazy time I was I was we were playing the New England Patriots Oh you can show this can't you? Yeah check this out Okay ready god look how grainy that is Oh back in the day
Starting point is 00:32:55 That's pop! Oh yeah, you smashed it. Go, go, go! T.J. could run a little bit. He could run a little bit. He was a little bit. What was the celly there, Chris? There was no sally.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You didn't have Jackson Dart? Did you, so you were waiting back, you didn't engage with the tackle. You knew the throw was coming? Was that? Run it back? I don't really know. I played in a three-four, so like a lot of times you ended up, like, doing shit like this where you had to look at it. It's like, I got to get contained.
Starting point is 00:33:23 You just read his eyes? Yeah, just, you know. You got contained on the other side, right? So you're kind of just waiting. You're kind of just waiting for you. Yeah. Speaking of Virginia, we'll probably talk about them later. They beat Florida State this weekend.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Oh, that was the Bears assistant GM right there. Ian Yates. Ian Yates Cunningham was on the field. It was like the who's who. You got T.J. Yates and Ian Yates cuttingham. So anyways, we'll get to Bucks Eagles now for the, for the bunch of people clamoring for that breakdown. Golly, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:55 it's just like these guys man everybody's gonna have gray hairs by the end of the year seriously did you know that the eagles are four and oh you know that
Starting point is 00:34:06 I'm fucking well aware dude did you know they didn't complete a pass in the second half yesterday no way that's crazy I didn't hear that anywhere no you hey so this is this is this is what I have written down
Starting point is 00:34:18 okay if you were to tell an eagles fan like two months ago hey let me take you in a little like get in the time machine we're going to go to fucking september 29th you're going to be four and oh you just beat the bucks in tampa which is like pulling the sword from the sown because they haven't been able to do that um barclay had 43 yards rushing he went for two three a carry a j brown had two catches for seven yards devante had two catches jayland didn't
Starting point is 00:34:48 complete a pass in the second half and you're four and oh and you beat the bucks and you had a three touchdown lead for half the game like there's no rhetorical it's not a rhetorical question like how do you feel about that i don't have it i have i have a take i have takes but if i'm an eagles fan like how do i feel about that do i feel good do i feel like like fucking waiting for the other shoe to drop like how do i feel nolan i mean my mind as an eagles fan goes to here i hear all that But then within the context of we beat the Rams, we beat the Bucks, to me is like, two of the NFCs elite. I'm feeling fucking good.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. And you should. Now we can take the garbage out on money and look at the second half offensive game plan. I, um, Bo, you were at the game. How hot was it? Oh, brother. It was hot. I was sitting there in the stands and I was texting Gerald McCoy and I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:47 how the fuck did we play in this stadium? It was crazy, dude. I don't, I don't even know. Like the Eagles came down. a couple days earlier. I went to dinner with Connor Barron on Friday night and he was talking about their plan for acclamation and all that and I was like yeah, whatever that's really going to help. But it
Starting point is 00:36:02 yeah, cool. Yeah, one day that's going to do it, boys. But it was fucking hot, man. But the Eagles got a hot start. So they kind of rolled with it. That was interesting. That was my first ever bucks game. And from the stands like, dude, football games when you're there in person are kind of boring. What are coaches? What are coaches in organizations deals thinking that going somewhere?
Starting point is 00:36:20 That they can play God. Like 24 hours early is going to get you acclimated to anything. It's just going to dehydrate you, bro. Like, honestly, I don't get that. I'm not really sure either. You're off your regular weekly game schedule for no reason. Coaches on the road in the NFL are like, they're a mortal enemy of mine. Like the way they travel, the players, the schedule, the curfew.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I mean, like, the fact that we all got to, we all got to do a curfew. Superstitions, right? The coaches? Like, just like if how you pick that like, hey, we're going to do meeting this time or whatever. Yeah, well, they have a way of doing things. The thing that always used to drive me the craziest and not every staff's like this maybe, but like they'd be like, get upstairs, you fucking adult men. Oh, yeah. And latch the door by 10 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:37:08 We're all going out to dinner to get drunk with our wives. And we're going to be calling the game tomorrow. And you're going to get blamed for how we call the game. That was like my biggest pep peeve about coaches in the NFL on the road. It better be bad. we're going to come in and wake you up and look and make sure that you're in your bed. But not us because we're going to be out at the bar. We're going to send the strength coach.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You're going to latch your door and then we're going to open it at like 10.50 p.m. and wake you up. Okay. So anyways, the block punt out of the gate is huge. I mean, it's huge. I think there's actually two quotes floating around in my head this morning. And one of them's like, if you block a punt in the NFL, you have a 90% chance of winning. I don't know if that's true, but it's definitely up there. And as soon as that happened, as soon as you heard that sound and got that fortuitous bounce, like you just knew the Eagles had a great chance of winning this game.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And when you look back at how they found it, I mean, like, I went back and watched all the bucks punt, punt execution on the season. And like the, I think it was the first game. I think it was Atlanta. And what you have is they overload the side that they're attacking. They run a twist on the side of the personal protector and hold the personal protector because that center was given up a really soft right shoulder. And what happened yesterday is exactly what we saw in that Atlanta game.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I think, and I'm not a big special teams guy, but I think that's where they drew that from. And then once you get that block punt, the whole game changes. So that was huge. And kudos to them for like within 15 minutes of game time, you block three kicks in two weeks. you know that's just enormous and and i thought like jalen obviously a tale of two halves and everything but two weeks ago against the rams it felt to me like getting down almost did this offensive favor
Starting point is 00:39:01 because it forced them into a style of play that in that matchup was best for them i thought they had a big advantage over that secondary um i thought in this game getting up it costs the bucks their one advantage. I thought the Bucks would be able to run the ball. And I think they had 20 yards their first two carries. But as soon as they got down 14 to nothing, I think that's the next time Bucky Irving touched the football out of the backfield. So they kind of became a little bit more one dimensional. Especially with an O line that's pretty beat up. I mean, Tristan was back, which for the Bucs. Like, you know, he's still got a kind of, he's a great player, freak athlete stud. But, you know, he's been out he's got to get his feet wet a little bit and when they have to
Starting point is 00:39:48 throw the ball that many times with their that right guard left guard stuff yeah and their back right tackle like against the escher against the rushers from philly like that's a tall task no you could see it and and in the run game at times like trying to run behind that right side's a little bit tougher for them but like i thought i thought you know like the second half petulow failed to stay ahead of bowls like that let's skip to the part that eagles fans want here it's like what happened in the second half i think you just failed to stay ahead of the curb um you know spot route to a j brown became super predictable all the underneath stuff's getting jumped by multiple guys um they're running into bad looks uh jlin airmailed his shots like i don't know what happened with him
Starting point is 00:40:31 um you know bowls went to the sim pressures that was a big difference from the first half the sim pressures in the second half i think it caused a little bit of confusion um but you knew bowls was going to counter i mean like they've had a big advantage in this matchup you know obviously without a j brown playing for the eagles but you knew at some point bowls was going to have a counter for this young coordinator and he did and it was ugly in the second half it was fucking hideous they didn't complete a pass i think the offensive lines beat up um i know the offensive lines beat up i mean lane left the game yesterday landon dickerson wasn't healthy when he started this season when you watch him i know he's hurting and I think he's an absolute warrior but you know steen's not beckton and and i would go as far as
Starting point is 00:41:17 saying if this team's going to win with this offensive line and i'm not calling the offensive line out because i think the tackles are fantastic i think they got a great guard who's really fucking banged up right now um if they win with this group it would be the most unique run that they've had because this isn't the 23 o line it's not the 24 o line and i don't even think it's this i know it's not the 17-0 line, you know, where we went to the Super Bowl. So this would be, if they can make this run, pretty impressive because the run game, as I mentioned earlier, is just not there. It's just not there. And you got a coordinator who's pretty predictable calling the plays in the second half of this game. It's like, man, they have to play complete games if they want to go where they're
Starting point is 00:42:02 trying to go. And last year, I felt like they avoided those lulls in the passing game because they had a run game that's kind of their life preserver if they don't have that everything else becomes a lot harder for the quarterback and for the guys outside and then you get fucking quotes like this I'm coming to you bow but like this was the other quote in my head
Starting point is 00:42:22 this morning if you are not welcomed listened to quietly withdraw don't make a scene shrug your shoulders and be on your way and tweet about it on the way out amen when I read that quote I was like is that like marital advice
Starting point is 00:42:37 is he doing like a relationship thing? I don't feel appreciated. But you can tell with all those targets that like either sailed out of bounds or just not creative ways to get him involved like that, that's frustrating. It goes to show you it's not enough to be one of the best wide receivers in the fucking lead.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You have to be used correctly. And it's a good time to remind you of Denny Carter's legendary tweet that kind of breaks down how each position group tweets. Oh yeah. Did you see this? Typical QB tweet.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I love my teammates. God is good. Running back tweet. Keep grinding. This is my favorite one. Tide in tweet. Dirk. That just reminds me of like Travis.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Travis's old tweets that resurfaced. It's like a perfect example. And then Y receiver tweet. The enemy speaks kindly and hold the night. like what is that like you know what I'm saying yeah that's the type of shit wide receivers are on what's a dline tweet dline tweet yeah yeah i don't we're we're kind of boat and hoes both and hoes i don't know what the dline tweet is but these are so accurate to but anyways it's just there's a bad vibe around the offense right now and like it in what sucks is as media
Starting point is 00:44:03 members and like former players and a bow i'm sure you have something to say on it But like, we, how can we not piss off some of the fans talking about it? If, you know, like, it's, we're riding a roller coaster just like the fans. You know, fans like one week, it's like, you know, one half. It's like, butulo's the fucking truth, man. You see that script? When you look back at the script, there was some creative little red zone plays. And they had answers for the Blitz, which took them years to do in this matchup.
Starting point is 00:44:34 But, like, did they do anything revolutionary? I don't know. So, you know, they're riding the wave. So are we. I don't know what to make of this offense at all. I mean, I think I know what to make of it. Well, that's kind of what I want to speak to a little bit is the thing that's been frustrating for me is just the lack of creativity in the run game.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I know everyone's talking about the past stuff, you know, the no completed passes that facts immediately brought up, all that kind of thing. Like those are big buzzwords, but it just doesn't feel like the O line is on the same page. And you said it, Chris, like this is super talented. Jordan Mila is playing at a really high level. Landon is really good. He's banged up. Juergens is good.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He's a little banged up too. Lane's banged up. But I don't feel like there's any creativity in the run game. And you have one of the most talented running backs in the history of the NFL. You don't only. I thought it was so interesting. The, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:25 the Eagles run game is so predictable. And the only creativity we saw on Sunday from their run game was out of all the touchdown. I literally thought was a little bit of a fuck you. I literally, I was just about to jump in. and say that to you i was like i was like you don't think that was creative you don't think that's no it was you could tell that they just been waiting for the perfect opportunity to bust these plays out you know
Starting point is 00:45:45 like oh you guys oh the tush push oh we're all talking about the tush push how it should should be bad well here we're gonna pretend like we're running and fuck you we're not running it at all it's actually something completely different i would love that they leaned into it and they started they started the game doing the two lying up for the tush push and doing three different variations of that type of play that they did just to piss everyone off, just to have everyone I notice, but also, too, it'll make, I mean, it'll make defensive, I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:11 offensive or defensive coordinators have to put it in practice, have to practice against it. And we all know that the Eagles are the only ones that really know how to run it. So knowing that, you can't really practice trying to stop it if you don't have people who can stimulate it. It's a fundamentally hard to defend. And once you add those wrinkles onto it,
Starting point is 00:46:32 it just creates another level of it. we're like, okay, they can just mash you, fucking mash you for a first down every time, or else, hey, they can get the ball in some sort of strange wingtie style offense to Sequin Barclay and run for a touchdown. Like, it's, it is, it's very interesting. It's, I mean, it's impossible to defend. Listen, I mean, we always talk about this offensive line. They are the common thread between all the, the, the, the, the, the, the couple
Starting point is 00:46:57 Super Bowls that have booked ended the last decade. I really do think it would be their biggest feat if they could go win this thing with this offensive line because they've always had that security blanket. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to boil it down to like, you know, it's just the guard or, you know, but they've been four or five deep now at every position up front.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And, you know, I think Fred Johnson's played admirably when he's factored in. But like if Lane's not healthy, that's a huge deal. you know, Dickerson's clearly not healthy. I remember Juergens finished the season. Here's one thing about this team as a whole. And fans need to remember it because it's not something Eagles fans, at least younger Eagles fans are probably used to at this point,
Starting point is 00:47:44 but like get used to it. Your team has been playing football for three years straight. You know, like there are dudes that we're playing into February every year now. A lot like we marvel at the way New England gets back there every year in Tom Brady's time period or like the way Kansas City, that's the hard thing about building a dynasty is like, number one, you have to keep your focus, keep the players in the building, you know, retool every year, but also you have to stay healthy. You have to have good luck. And like, you know, there's a lot of attrition, the physical style of football they played last
Starting point is 00:48:17 year, not just for the running back, for the guys clearing the holes for the running back. So in the meantime, you got to get some quick game. You've got to get some easy answers for Jalen hurts. And I think that's Chris where my biggest area of uncertainty is as a fan around the team is like come back. I mentioned beating the bucks, beating the Rams. They beat the chiefs who are going to be somewhere in the NFC playoff picture. They beat the Cowboys too who went toe to toe with the Packers last night. Like four really good wins. But the uncertainty around the identity with the offense, I think is like we've talked about the offensive line, how that's been everything they've built around offensively over the last few years. If you're not going to run the ball at a dominant level,
Starting point is 00:48:56 you're probably going to have to become more of a quick game team. And maybe that's, you know, trying to reverse engineer the AJ tweet. Like maybe that's what he was getting at. Maybe there's something on the sideline of like quick game, quick game, quick game. I don't know. I think that was a quick game tweet. I'm going with that. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I think it's a quick game. I'm with you. It's just a quick game tweet. That's a good. That's it. I was hoping to talk about the bucks for a little bit, boys. Can we finish with the winners? Because I.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yeah. I mean, it's been about 30 minutes here, but yeah, I'm ready. I mean, God damn, dude, what else you got to do today? You know, can we shout out the defense? No, we're going to cancel talking about the defense. Bo wants to talk about the bucks. Go ahead, Bo talk about the defense. What do you got?
Starting point is 00:49:39 No, Eagles fan, Bo wants to talk about the bucks. I won't talk about the Bucks. I want to talk about the Eagles defense because I don't think the Bucks played particularly well yesterday. I mean, obviously, you get a kick blocked, all that stuff. We'll get there in a second. But I thought that Dijin and, and Quinyon are franchise altering draft picks, and you got them in one year.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And when you talk about them yesterday, but you can't talk about them without talking about the Buc's tendency to want to attack Quinyon Mitchell. Like I do not know why they spent so much time targeting those two guys yesterday. I mean, it was like Shepard didn't exist at times, and Ringo's out there, super physical, he's not afraid of anything. I love the way he battles,
Starting point is 00:50:30 but he's a handsy cat, and eventually you're going to get flagged for some of the stuff that he does, and they didn't look his way a lot. And that was a little bit surprising, but I thought the defense just stood up. Fangio, what a hire. You know, they've done everything right the last two years. They've developed their defense as the years gone on,
Starting point is 00:50:50 and it seems like they're continuing to do that. Bo, you want to talk about the bucks? Go ahead. I'd like to talk about the bucks. I think one thing I was disappointed in, Chris Godwin, I love him. I think he's really physical player. He's been injured. This is his first game back.
Starting point is 00:51:04 He, I think he had two drops where you could just kind of tell that he seemed a little bit rusty. And it's like, that's not who he is as a player. The schedule, like I know him personally. And the plan for him was always kind of come back. And after four weeks, you have to feel a little bit like he, you know, was maybe rushed. I don't know if he was like he rushed himself back or the, you know, the injury to
Starting point is 00:51:24 Mike Evans maybe hurried up his clock a little bit. He didn't look right. Yeah, he just looked a little still, you know, kind of getting his feet wet, still getting acclimated. It's hard to jump in, you know, week four and play and not get those, those hits, those catches, those game reps, you know, before that. So I love Chris. I think he's going to be a pivotal part of the Bucks team going on the stretch. Just really would have loved for him to secure some of those balls. And then Bucke and Bucca, like that, I mean, I can't believe that ball snuck through, that long-wing dude, boo.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I hated his celebration. They were down by like three scores and he did like a Antonio Brown. I said the same thing, but that wasn't the difference. I know we've seen some tweets today that are like, oh, you could have used those seconds. I'm like, yeah, I guess they might. I'm not even saying it all to you. And like, dude, I think you've been there before. Like, it was a great play.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. He's a really, he's a great touchdown. But like, he hasn't been there before, though. He's a rookie. He got to do you. Chouche, beau. So like,
Starting point is 00:52:26 Damn, bro. You know, like, that rubbed me the wrong one. And then Buck Irving, like, he's just been a stud for him, man. You talked a little bit about the bucks trying to get their run game going. I don't think their run game, like, their run game has been a strength over, you know, the first part of the season and then last year especially. It's just think about trying to run the ball. If you're the Bucks, obviously against the likes of Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I think Morrow's playing really well, too. Zach Bond. Yep. you know, a bunch of studs on the front seven for the Eagles defense with a super banged up offensive line. You know, Cody Mock's out. Tristan Wirfs has been out. Graham Barton was playing left tackle all season until now. You know what I mean? So like you're not going to make a lot of hay in the run game. And so, you know, consequently you see Bucky have five receptions for 102 yards, 72 yards long. Like he's, he's been a stud, man. And he's been a really key part of this game.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And, you know, Rashad White's really good too. So the buck's dropped one. I think we're all kind of expecting this to be a little bit more of a game. The punt got him behind early and then, you know, you know, it kind of fucked from there. I still think that the Bucks are the class of the NFC South and will be fun to watch going forward. Also, Vita had two sacks on defense, which I love. Yeah, he was great.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I mean, he kind of ran out of gas trying to chase Jalen down on the sideline. I mean, that was that, but, but when you talk about the Bucks, man, because I do think the Bucks are very good and I think we might might well. And I know Eagles fans are going to say, well, you know, we didn't play well. neither did the fucking buccaneers dude like i think this is a possible playoff preview at some point whether it's a divisional round or uh or the nfc championship and to me like baker as gutsy as he is and as great as he is of getting them out of trouble i just thought that throw at the goal line was just a cardinal sin yeah the cardinal sin at that point you're down
Starting point is 00:54:19 eight in a ball game where you have all the momentum the momentum is completely shift shifting And you are down there in the red zone on first down. And he gets out of trouble. And instead of just dirting the ball or throwing it out of bounds and living to fight another day, you throw into traffic in the end zone. I was a blank and chipper Dijim made a play on the ball. But, you know, tipping the ball. I think the ball was tip.
Starting point is 00:54:44 But it was an ill-advised throw. And the thing I hate so much about it is this. The way the Eagles ought be, be a game manager when it's time to be a game manager. the Eagles offense is playing awful. If you kick a field goal in that scenario, you're going to be down five, and you're going to be kicking the ball off to an offense that's barely moved the ball.
Starting point is 00:55:05 The way you're playing, you're going to get it right back probably. And if you score a touchdown, if you see it through and you score a touchdown, I miss a two-point conversion, you know how much pressure goes on the Eagles offense who has not been playing well in the second half? That to me was a big deal. And the Eagles also did a great job in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Look at the passing chart. I don't think Baker Mayfield had a very productive day in the middle of the field. The other problem I have I mentioned already, like throw the ball to somebody not named Mitchell or at somebody not named Mitchell or Dijian at some point in the game. So, yeah, just not the Bucks script. I think they'll be fine. They're doing this with three fucking offensive linemen down.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Now, the Eagles at different points in the game are replacing multiple guys too. Now, Eagles fans, you know, the first thing we said on the, this breakdown was, oh, Jalen Hertz 0 and 8 in the second half, spin it with this stat right here. NFL teams are 15 and 1 since 2000 when completing zero second half passes. Well, yeah. A lot of run game in the second half. The teams that are probably doing that are probably up by like three scores.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, that's also like the stat where they're like, hey, you know, if you run the ball really well, like you always win. Some guy at McGillen's put up that stat. Yeah, but that is a wild stat. to see what the other what the other games were right yeah you know like what what the fuck um like there's a crazy stat about like the cowboys in green bay like 300 it was like 300 games where any team it was 40 or 40 points and have no turnovers like are 300 and oh and now it's 300 oh and one can somebody go down and get my door dash this poor lady's been in the car for two and a half
Starting point is 00:56:51 hours. You'll go get it. That's that. With the end result of the host Cowboys teams with 40 or more points and no turnovers at home, including the playoffs, are now 301 and 1. I don't even... 300, 0, and 1 all time. And listen, the smoothie is going to be cold, and I don't want it right now, but I just
Starting point is 00:57:06 feel bad for the young lady. She's been in the car two hours, Reed. Get her on the pod. Tell her a interviewer. Give her a high five. Tell her come up and do a traffic report. All right. So, anyways.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Eagles fans. It's just cardiac birds, man. They haven't played a full game like barely all season. Well, I did think the Kansas City game was a pretty nice in-phase win. The DART debut in New York. Golly, man. The Giants. Now, people are going to make a big deal about the DART thing. The G man. The DART thing is nice. Like he played fine. Like he had moments. I thought there was one play backed up that we referenced.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Third and six. Third and six where he climbs a pocket and rips it. You know, there were also moments where the ball probably could have came out sooner. Yeah. He's the classic guy where, and I think I'm not putting a ceiling on him. I'm just talking about him. Like if, if Bo and I were preparing, me, Bo and Nate sitting in a D-line room talking about Jackson North, we'd say, hey, we got to watch the way we rush this guy because he's athletic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:23 He crosses the threshold of where you got to, you got to change the way you call the game a little bit. You can do more things with the run game. You saw day ball, and they probably had this in their back pocket for a month, like burning a hole in his back pocket. Like, can we put the athletic guy in? Yeah. But the draw was nice. The quarterback design. Yeah. That was nice. But he is going to take sacks and he is a rookie. And now he's down Malik
Starting point is 00:58:50 neighbors, which is terrible. And this is the most shocking stat that I've, how was she, was she okay? Was she shaking up? No, no, no. She was very apologetic and I said, don't be. No, we're sorry that you had to do that. Yes. Two plus hours. No, she was good. Okay, so, so this was the thing that blew my mind this morning of everything I read. Giants have drafted six wide receivers and tight ends in the first two rounds since 2014. Odell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard, Evan Ingraham, Cadarius, Tony, Wondale Robinson, Malik neighbors, five of six has suffered season-ending injuries at MetLife Stadium. Is it a burial ground, or is it just the worst playing surface in professional sports?
Starting point is 00:59:38 Well, what's incredible is that the World Cup is being hosted there next year? And they're going to change to. Yes. They're spent, but a $10 billion franchise can't do that for their team of loser. Who's spending that money next year? That's a great question. Either way, wild. No, it is wild.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I mean, the fact that the NFL isn't, you've got skill guys at this point tweeting about it. Yeah. Like, skill guys are the guys that always want to go inside during the season and practice on turf when the weather's bad. But now the tides turn to where they're like, fuck, dude. Can we get some feskew? It's more than just the giants. It's not just like a bad look for the giants. I think it's a better look for the league.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I think there's somewhere the management counselors step in and be like, yo, we got to find a solution here because... It's also hideous to look at. Right. Everything looks better on grass. Like, your ratings are going to go up. It would be a dumb question, but like, if they're not footing the bill for putting the grass in, why can't they just keep it?
Starting point is 01:00:33 Oh, you're right. Yeah, but then they have to maintain it. Yeah, but like... You know, and where would the money come from? You already have the guys typically on like a field crew or whatever they're called. I'm with you. How about the fact that these owners will go play golf in the dead of winter somewhere? And the grass is beautiful.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah. But we can't put in some fucking Kentucky bluegrass in the state of New York. Like, it might get a little chunky in it. It might be a little brown at times. But like, who cares, dude? You're not going to be losing guys like Malik neighbors. Now, the saving grace, if you're watching the Giants this year, is you do get to see Scatibo every week. Golly.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I just, he is. Is he the white Frank Gore? Is he going to end up the white Frank Gore? When I squinted my eyes last night. Brandon Jacobs. I thought he was, what you're called? Isn't he just Michael Allstop? I don't know if he's Mike Allstop.
Starting point is 01:01:27 But last night I was squinting my eyes and he looked, he looked sensational. Like if you really like her just like kind of look through your eyebrows. But how long does that last? Why does it have to last very long? Forever. Why for him does it not happen? No, I hear you, bro. Like I love.
Starting point is 01:01:44 love it, but I just watch it. I'm just like, I said the same thing. We said the same thing. Yeah, like how, how does he feel after games? Like, I know how you feel as a D-Lyman after a game, but like I'm a D-Lyman feeling like pain. And the whole game, I'm tackling a guy like Scadaoo. And he's running hard. And I just can't see how that is going to translate. He's the hammer, not the nail, though. Absolutely. Dog, he was the nail on one play. He was the nail. He was the nail. a couple of times he was the nail a couple times like legit he tried to hurdle somebody on like second and long like like every play is varsity blues for him every play is like and and and and that's why
Starting point is 01:02:26 i love about watching him play and i got a lot of fucking respect for this guy because he really like puts everything into every he hits the hole and he's launching into detackers like seeking contact with the ball and stuff man yes but he tried to hurdle somebody and i think die came over and tattooed him And it was like he, it was like he jumped out of a moving vehicle was the way he hit the ground. Dude, he just is such a, he's such a football player. Yeah. I mean, he's such a football. He's going to get four yards or die trying.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Is the way he plays. Like, it is unbelievable. I'm going to go box a little bit about this guy because I think it's so interesting because you have him, you have Scadabot. And then you have Jackson Dart. And for my anti-bevel Conway, it was a great drive. All right for Jackson Dart as a rookie. It was like 80 yards on the field.
Starting point is 01:03:09 He ended up with. the rushing touchdown and then he goes and he does this big white classic white guy fist pump first touch on the NFL and I was like okay sick and then he started doing his TikTok dance and I was furious it or a farming thing you don't understand why I could not buy around it I hate him now I hate his high neck uh like undershirt co boomer but you have a dude who's like scadabobos tough his tough his nails he probably doesn't even tape his ankles or wrists or nothing like he probably wears like Russell athletic you know I think he's on TikTok too I think he's whatever I think it's a youth like the way that they play all right is very different you got a guy who like you could pump
Starting point is 01:03:50 them into like 1980s and then you got Jackson dark day and I all TikTok but a new segment bo yells at cloud right look Jackson dark Jackson dark's gonna hear this segment he's gonna do a quick deep dive and he's going to be like not the dude and fucking healies telling me I can't do a tic-top dance like no way he's telling me i'm like me i'm gonna he's kept in strays right now hey well can i say this though but jackson dart for all the shit we're giving him about orah farming and all that and i had to like explain to a couple people what that was last night because they're not hip like me but like dart shouted out russell wilson after the game and said man this week must have been real tough like he's a professional i appreciate him that's what do you know
Starting point is 01:04:36 how far that fucking goes dude that's called emotional intelligence, which is the first ingredient. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I hope it's Cincinnati. Emotional intelligence is one of the most underrated leadership traits, period. And to me, that was like,
Starting point is 01:04:54 it's a small thing, but that goes a long fucking way. And, you know, like, not to compare him to Zach Wilson when he was in New York, and obviously he hasn't dealt with what Zach Wilson was dealing with, you know, through one week. But remember when Zach Wilson, like, kind of had some questionable post game you know bus throwing kind of kind of sound bites and you know you live and you
Starting point is 01:05:15 learn but this guy right out the gate is saying the right things it's a lot easier after after win but but in the city of new york he's going to have a fucking microphone in his face a lot and i thought that was a really good sign talking about from the chargers end um i did not love the game plan it took a long time until i saw the first run it felt like breaking down the film and uh in the split i think you said, what, 13 to 40 or something like that? 13 to 43. 13 to 43. Like, that's unforgivable.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I know they have a good front. I know Dexter Lawrence is a motherfucker, but I also saw Hampton break a couple of explosive runs in this game. And, you know, Herbert threw two picks. Neither of them are really on him. Like, the first one's Dexter Lawrence, you know, at the line playing volleyball. And then the next one, you got guys running into each other, which I thought was indicative of how the charges played in this game offensively.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I did not love the game plan. I would have loved to see them run the football to control this front, right? Because can I be the first to say it five times? And I'm sure Giants fans have said this before, but I don't know if anybody's paying enough attention to Abdul Carter. He could have had fucking five yesterday. Yeah, five. I love the way he rushes.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Like I said in preseason, he is on your edge when he's down the middle of you. There is not a snap that I look at where he does not successfully attack an edge. Just a stud, dude. And Burns is criminally underrated. Right? But then you got Tibado who played his ass off yesterday. He's your third rusher.
Starting point is 01:06:55 They got a really good group, man. Those three, you just said combined for 20 pressures in that game. So you could just imagine that threw Herbert off a lot, seeing those guys flashing. and getting up off the ground after being hit and looking up, be like, damn, you hit me again? Yeah. Like you again?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah. And if it wasn't Herbert, somebody else would have got sacked six times. There were times where Herbert was like falling to the ground. Yep. And just chucking in somewhere. So strong. And he's, like, if you're a rusher in that game, you've got to be pissed off, man. But I see Abdul Carter.
Starting point is 01:07:28 You are a dog, bro. He's going to make a lot of plays in this league. He's a smart rusher. And we talked about earlier, Dexter Lawrence, had a Chris Long. Obviously, yeah, Dexter Lawrence, man. I mean, what was, they did the staff on him?
Starting point is 01:07:43 He ran how fast, and he's 300 and something pounds. He was in the team. It's big man moving. But there's the reason I didn't used to put that fucking, that catapult under my pad. They used to be like, hey, why aren't you wearing your catapult?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Because motherfucker, I don't need to get clocked in at 15 miles an hour. You're going to cut me. My deceptive speed isn't deceptive anymore when you clock me. Dexter Lawrence. I think you got the 23 right, 23 and a half miles an hour. Dexter. He hit 17.3.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Second fastest speed of any player, his weight. 342 pounds or more since he started. These stats are fucking stupid. So 340? Yeah. 340 17 miles per hour. The fastest speed by a man over 342 pounds with an X
Starting point is 01:08:31 in his name. Dude, he at MetLife Stadium. This this decade. He hit 17.5 in week 5 of 2019. I mean, he's really fucking fast. That's crazy. That could be fatal.
Starting point is 01:08:45 You know, you just stand in there and Dexter. I give credit to Herbert. I give credit to Herbert diving in there to trip him up. Hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Imagine 340 pounds falling on your arm wrong way, like trying to trip someone up. What do you get chasing streeted, bro? Somebody said to let, let Bax know his shades are a little bit crooked. Oh, my bad. Yeah, that's a tough look.
Starting point is 01:09:06 My bad. But yeah, just one note on charges' offense, Chris, I agree with you. I think I've just been a little bit confused with their offensive identity ever since week one. Like, I love what I saw from them week one. I felt like it was going to be built around play action pass, complimented with the kind of downhill run game that you know Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman both want to be a part of the team's identity. That's right. But you take out of week one since that point, they've been 22nd in EPA per play, 19th and success. rate. They're not explosive. They're below
Starting point is 01:09:36 league average in both phases. Explosive play rate. I don't know. I just, it feels like to me they're trying to fit more of like a spread out, a lot of gun, like a KC, Cincy, Philly type vision. But I think like with Herbert's skill set and what they want to be,
Starting point is 01:09:53 we should be seeing more of like under center. Everything go around that. Like Detroit, Rams. Fuck yeah, dude. San Fran. Like that kind of wrong tree. Yeah, exactly. Wrong tree. Right, right branch. wrong tree. Exactly. And we're looking at it and I'm just like, you know, the reason I doubted the Chargers coming in the season, I've come around on them, but this is something that popped
Starting point is 01:10:12 up yesterday. To be fair, how many, how many tackles can you lose? I mean, you lose guards, totally. Down back then going to the game. But, you know, but you lost Slater, which kind of led me to doubt you. And now you're down alt, I'm not going to jump off the bandwagon, but like, if the protection looks like this for another month, I'm sorry, I have to be an analyst at some point. He's been pressured on 50 of 95 dropbacks over the last two weeks. That's insane. That's wild. And you know what it was?
Starting point is 01:10:40 They played the Raiders and they won that game and it's a young season and we're so impressed and I was impressed with the way they played in a lot of ways in that game. But like, you know, it's just some of the things that you project a couple weeks later when they see great rushers, you know, that pop up a little bit on film and you get away with it. Yeah. You can't get away with it with a group like that. Yeah. And those two weeks, I mean, he saw probably two of the best five D-lines in the league, right?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yep. And, but he can't have those throws. Like he won't, Justin Herbert is good as he is. This isn't the Justin Herbert critique, by the way. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. And as good as he is, he can't make the throw that he did against Nick Benito to Keenan Allen. Not all day long, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:23 You can't ask him to make that play. That's a great point. Yeah. It's just like, if this guy's going to be under duress the entire time, you see what being under duress did to Patrick Mahomes for a long stretch of time with that offensive line. Like, and he's the, he's the guy you've been trying to kill. Right. In division for what feels like a decade. So, you know, see what being under duress does to Bryce Young. Yeah, right. Exactly. Fuck, dude. Get my guy, dude. Rescue my guy. So let's talk about the chiefs.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I'll start with the winning team. Do you remember Thursday when we talked about this and we were sitting here he said, I'm going to try to phrase this the right way. What do you think is going to flip the script more? The Ravens getting the guys that they're missing back or the chiefs getting the guys that they're missing back. And I says the chiefs because Rishie Rice, who's not even on the field, you know, he's your screen game. He's probably your number one wide receiver. He's been missing. Xavier Worthy, the vertical element, the horizontal. element. You saw this yesterday. When he gets back in the game, they don't just stretch you vertically. They stretch you horizontally. And at that point, everything that comes off of that, the chiefs are not
Starting point is 01:12:40 only the team that can go take out a big chunk and cover two, you know, or take a big shot and beat man coverage down the field because they've got one of the best quarterbacks of all time. They're also a team that can kill you run and mesh. And, you know, they're also a team that stresses linebackers when they're the best version of themselves. And that guy adds an element. underneath that people ignore when they think about like, oh, he's just a vertical threat. No, Thornton's just a vertical threat. Worthy's a guy you can do a lot with, and it showed up in the run game yesterday. It showed up.
Starting point is 01:13:10 I thought, and this isn't me jumping out of the gym for Kansas City, who I think they got a long way to go, and they'll have stiffer tests than that yesterday, because you know what I think of the Ravens at this point. The chiefs to me yesterday looked as comfortable as they've looked offensively the past couple years because now he's got both things at once he's got a vertical element receivers that aren't dropping the football because they had that for a whole year and an offensive line that's not getting him killed which they had last year and yesterday they kept him clean he was sack once you talked about the left side of the offensive line which continues to improve facing a defensive line consisting of
Starting point is 01:13:49 tavia's robinson mike green john jenkins and our boy brent urban was being asked to play a lot of snaps So the point is, I think the Chiefs have a lot of reasons to be excited seeing what Just Xavier Worthy does this group. We set it in preseason. The offensive line is going to be the best group he's had over the past couple years.
Starting point is 01:14:09 We'll see what happens from here on out. I don't think that the Ravens are a particularly good football team right now and I think that's more what we should be talking about because it's a more shocking thing to me when you look at the way people pick the Ravens in preseason people looked at me like I was on crack when I took the bangles well to win the
Starting point is 01:14:32 aFC north well that might not happen now but it's not because of you know it's it's because of Joe burrow it's the Ravens look like they have no identity like that that to me is just wild when you have an MVP back there at quarterback year after year they've asked him to and we haven't even gotten to the defense which is a train wreck right now I mean, in this current state, the guys leaving the game and everything. We just got an update that Nomdi Matabike is out for the season. They're fucked. They're fucked.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I'm sorry, they're fucked. I try to be fair about every team. And they're only one and three. And there's a long time to make this up. But to me, like today, watching the Ravens on tape, I don't feel like, at least in this matchup, they're ever going to feel good this year because what do you have to have when you play Kansas City? well you got to have guys outside on defense you got to have rushes and get to mahomes you got to have really good backers and i don't think rocuan smith has looked great and teddy buchanan they they attacked him early and often in that game and and to me when you don't have the pass rush you don't have great backers in space um you know even they're good players like marlin humphrey's getting picked on a little bit over the past couple weeks you know i mentioned last week that there were a couple guys that jump off the film Kyle hamilton's one of them i think marlin when he's at his best
Starting point is 01:15:56 certainly is a big plus, but he hasn't been great lately. Wiggins is a hell of a player, but Wiggins wasn't perfect yesterday. It just stresses everybody on the defense. And you talk about offense? They got an MVP who, in my opinion, guys, I don't know if you see this as well or not. But I think he left the game with a hamstring.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I want to use the, I want to use the, I want to be careful about the language I'm using. I'm wondering if he's lost, and I don't mean throwing the football, because I think he looks great throwing the football. Has he lost a step running the football, evading defenders in the backfield, extending plays? And I ask that question because, like, listen, I know that it's easy to be like, well, he's been hurt. He left the game with a hamstring yesterday. I don't doubt that that was a hamstring injury.
Starting point is 01:16:47 People that say he quit on his team, they just fucking hate Lamar Jackson. I got the utmost respect for the cat. but in every player's career there's a moment where you're like damn he lost the step didn't he and he hasn't lost the step throwing the football he's still throwing darts but a lot of their passing game over the years has been predicated on them running these longer developing route concepts and asking him to make magic happen you ask me what i'm talking about i'm talking about when he breaks contain yesterday and drew tranquil has not even a great angle to the sideline and he beats him to the sticks. Or last week when Nawaski's standing in the middle of the field like a
Starting point is 01:17:25 traffic cop and Lamar can't get out of it. You know, like, or him pulling a read option and, you know, I froze the film last night in a couple moments where I was like, okay, if I froze the film here, what do you think 70% of America would say A, picks up the first down, B, first down an explosive, C gets stopped short of the six. Most people are going to say first down and a fucking explosive because that's Lamar Jackson. I'm worried his legs aren't where they were, and that could be a short-term thing. He could be dinged all the first month of the season,
Starting point is 01:17:58 as we often are, and it's not on the injury report, but it is troubling to me that when they put so much on this motherfucker's shoulders, the minute he loses his step, the offense is completely out of whack. They're also, I mean, not having likely early in this season matters. You know, like I think that absolutely matters. and we'll see when he comes back.
Starting point is 01:18:20 But that is off my, I want to get off my soapbox now, and I want you guys to tell me if you see the same thing. Well, I was just wondering if maybe, just like you said, we didn't know about a lingering injury or something that came out of camp that they maybe didn't put on the reports, and maybe the fact that Lamar is so explosive and the way he does run,
Starting point is 01:18:41 that he tweaked that hamstring even more. And if that hamstring was already tweaked, then we didn't know, I feel like that would probably make him throttle down and not go all out like we're used to see. So devil's advocate, and I thought about this, because I was like, yeah, well, you know, shit, as a player, we know shit happens all the time
Starting point is 01:19:01 under the radar that people don't know. But in the 37 to 20 ball game or whatever it is, in the second half, if he has a pre-existing injury, they're not going to be running quarterback run plays if they're smart, and they were. So to me, like I look at it, I'm like, what is he just, Did the legs get a little heavier this year?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Is he dinged? We won't know now because he's got a hamstring injury that like, hey, I mean, is it out of the question that he misses time? I don't know what the latest update was. They did have, so likely did play yesterday like on a pitch count. Yes, on a pitch count. Yeah, we'll see it when you get a full game. You're not getting a full. You haven't gotten him.
Starting point is 01:19:40 It's been three weeks of him doing nothing and then all of a sudden he's out there for a little bit. It's going to take time to get on the same page with the guy that, Probably, and this is what makes it hard, and it wasn't the Andrews drop. They were anticipating a changing of the guard at that position. He was going to become the primary target. I also don't know. I don't know about Keaton Mitchell. And this is from just moments ago, Ian Rappaport, John Harbaugh on Lamar Jackson's
Starting point is 01:20:04 hamstring injury. The way I know Lamar, if he could have gone in the game, he would have been in the game. That's how Lamar is. Does open the door to Lamar Jackson missing next Sunday against the Texas. But why are we even asking the question? if any other quarterback gets hurt in the fucking fourth quarter and has to leave with ice on their hamstring, I'm just, and it's a really inexact study, you know, logging on is not an exact science. But like, I see a lot of people questioning his injury. Like, why does he even have to,
Starting point is 01:20:35 to make that comment? Lamar's a stud, man. And I hope for the best for Lamar Jackson, but I do feel like this organization at different turns in the road has failed him a little bit in the way they've set up the offense at times not having the receivers out there then they give him a fantastic run game last year and the part of it that he has to own is he hasn't been great in the playoffs and that is the reason why when you ask me to rank quarterbacks in the NFL I always start with hey if you want me to take my homes first I'll take him first but Josh Allen second um and that is because Lamar has not performed in the playoffs but he is a fabulous fucking football player that in my opinion is running an offense that will not suit a guy that is running around like the one I've
Starting point is 01:21:21 seen the first month of the season. And so they need to make an adjustment. Right. Dang. I guess we got to go online and get a Ravens stuff animal because it seems like Ravens might be on the grill. Ravens? They might be on the grill. They might be on the grill. They're one and three, man. There's not a lot of hope for them right now. And they're one and three. One and three. And what's the quarterback questionable? The quarterback's hurt. And Nate said, you said they're going into the Texans game. Oh, yeah. One in three.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Rams. One and three Ravens next week versus the one in three Texans. Dude, the Texans. Losers cook. It's the cookoff. It is the cookoff. That's a really good. It's a cookout.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Hell's Kitchen. Hell's kitchen. I mean, if they're playing the Texans this week, yeah. If Lamar doesn't play, That's not a great deal. It's not a great deal if he doesn't play, like, regardless, but just, yeah. And who was in the, Doc Prescott's old buddy?
Starting point is 01:22:27 Cooper. Cooper. Cooper. That looks so fucked up to see Cooper Rush in the Baltimore. Oh, and that was weird. And even with that, look, I want to say this, Shador and Dion got to feel a little bit foolish if all the talks about them. Oh, my God, dude.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Raven is true because no one learns on the bench and then you see this a situation like this happened and it's literally this is a situation if your son was there your son can if if he's doing what he's supposed to on the back in and playing well he can literally be a hero for a organization that loves their quarterback and if you come in and help plug things up calm everyone down imagine the stupid he went to a pro bowl exactly yeah A pro ball. Exactly. Never heard of it.
Starting point is 01:23:17 A pro bowl. Man. Okay. So, and on that topic, I totally understand where Shador and, and Dion's coming from because, like, you, and I've seen players talk about this. Like, you want the, you want to play. That, that, but I think when you're a quarterback, sometimes you do have to take the long view and say, like, hey, like, you know, I'm not a starter.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I'm a backup, at least in the beginning. What is the best situation for me? I think Baltimore, probably. probably would have been a better situation, even though we've railed on the way that they've run the offense for Lamar here for fucking 20 minutes. That is true. But hey, Cleveland's not great. For the Chiefs, we do have to give Spag some love.
Starting point is 01:23:58 After that opening drive, Ravens score, Kansas City allowed just 167 total yards in the next six Lamar Jackson drives in that span. Chiefs force two turnovers, a turnover on downs, held the Ravens to six points, pressure Jackson on 48.1 of his dropbacks and had three sacks. And you know what? You don't need great pass rushers to pressure Lamar Jackson. I mean, I'm not saying the Lions don't. I mean, Hutch is a great pass rusher, but they're down guys, and they were able to, Shepard was able to bring pressure and manufacture it. You can manufacture pressure now on Lamar Jackson, and everybody's going to be doing it until he stops it, until they stop it. And the guy I want to shout out for the Chiefs is Leo Channall.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Leo Channall at one point in this game, everybody's going to pay the, attention to the interception that's incredible what makes it so great is the interception and i saw him it i saw him in a shade meaning he's in the a gap somehow in a two-point stance and he anchors a fucking double team and makes the tackle i know spags is probably in the meeting right now with his little boston accent fucking putting the laser on leo chanall he was fantastic yes shenade incredible player He's only 24 years old. He's figuring out how to rush the pass. Where do you go to college, Nolan?
Starting point is 01:25:18 Wisconsin. You know where it went to college? And he definitely can rush the passer. Every guy that ever came out of Wisconsin could rush the passer. I think he might be the next. When they weren't sitting on the bench on third down. Yeah, well, that was the one pimple on the Eagles
Starting point is 01:25:32 championship run, in my opinion. So anyways, the last big game, well, two more big games here, the Rams game, and then we're going to get to the Jags. Because the Jaggs were fucking, the Jags, hey, Jags made me some money yesterday. Hey, Duval. Hey, keep my name out of your mouth, bitch.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah, for sure. Hey, keep my name out of your fucking mouth, Robert. Okay, Rams. Let's talk about the Rams first. Don't get me too hype, man. I don't feel any worse about the Colts coming out of that game. I mean, like, I thought Daniel Jones put the ball in harm's way a couple times and, like, cover two outside the numbers,
Starting point is 01:26:09 he got a little ambitious. There were times when Shula went sim pressure, meaning it ends up being a four-man rush, but they drop a defensive line, and they had a linebacker. Dan Dimes looked like he was automatic. I'm going to find my spot in the middle of the field and threw it in the harm's way a couple times there. But overall, I love their game plan. This was watching two really good offensive minds coach. I mean, like the Colts came out and their number one goal was like, let's take the edges out of the game.
Starting point is 01:26:39 let's try to throw a bunch of eye candy at them let's let's get on the edge in the run game you know those guys will get a little bit nosy um you know let's boot daniel jones out i thought the first half was like a really nice game plan from the colts and then the rams they got one of the best quarterbacks in the league and they can run the football with with the best of them they are one of the most balanced offenses in the nfl yep and you know a lot there's a lot of dialogue right now around and you know the Pooka thing. Is Pooka Nakua the best receiver in the league? Like, who gives a fuck at this point?
Starting point is 01:27:14 I mean, he's elite. He's in the class with those guys. Do I think he's better than Justin Jefferson? Well, if he is, it's not going to be because of the first month of the 2025 season where he's got Devante Adams on the other side of him, and Sean McVeigh call him the plays of Matt Stafforda throwing him to football. Okay, don't show me stats and be like, well, look what Jamar Chase is doing. Look what Justin Jefferson is doing.
Starting point is 01:27:35 There is context. him in that echelon i fucking love pukinakua he's an absolute dog they found him yesterday early and off and they found him on xavian howard which again speaks to the fact that he's a matchup nightmare you can put him in the slot you can put him outside you're gonna probably draw the number two cover guy at the very least every week because of who you got you know opposite him and he's playing his role to perfection he's one of the best in the league but let's not do the thing where we i saw dove climbing this morning was like we need to have a conversation he put up like Jefferson's stats and Chase's that I mean it's just bottom feeder stuff to me appreciate
Starting point is 01:28:13 the player for who the fuck he is he is a he is a tough ass football player that can line up anywhere on the field and get you buckets Chris I'm glad you brought him up he gets my game ball actually I love puk I've had a man crush on him ever since we interviewed him he's so cool so cool boy such a cool guy and you know he just loves football too like when you got his face cut up a couple weeks ago and like let me pull up this stat line here 13 receptions, 170 yards, one TD. Like, what a fucking baller. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:28:45 And watching him and Stafford work together is just, it just feels like, it just feels good. I like, yeah, emotion, Beau. Yeah, and Kenny Moore being down for the Colts was a huge part of that. Like Christian mentioned Avian Howard, he allowed seven receptions over 100 yards, touchdowns, six first downs, six of those first downs, four were third down. One was on fourth down.
Starting point is 01:29:05 So with more out of the game, McVeigh, staff or they were they were hunting that matchup and like you said you can move them around to get the matchups you want and that's what makes him so valuable i mean that that to me if you want to make a case for why he might be the best in the league like the way you can move him around the things you can do with him the way he blocks just he's just such a stud um and and i loved watching the run game you know we mentioned the run game what makes him so balanced they do as good as anybody good as job as to anybody as pressing front side, making that really well-time one cut, and getting downhill. And they've got two really good backs where Quorum got a little more of the work yesterday than
Starting point is 01:29:46 usual. You know, I don't read too much in that. I think Karen Williams probably giving them a rest a little bit. But I thought this was just a, you know, a classic Rams offense win, like where they could do both things. They were clutched at the end of the game. And the Colts weren't clutch. The Colts were, you know, 11 penalties or something for a million yards.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Yeah. Oh, I just killed him. And everyone's Hollow Man, right? Everybody's Hollow Man. Like Mitchell, everyone's Hollow Man. And he's got so much talent. Look, I just want to say this. Everyone is up in arms at the Colts and they're mad at Carly Ursay wearing the microphone
Starting point is 01:30:26 and the headphones on the sideline. Wait, she's doing what? It's like a narrative that she's micromanaging. And yeah, if I just took over a billion dollar company, yeah, I'm going to micromanage because why two years in a row? Why haven't they take this play out the playbook? Jonathan Taylor, or yeah, Jonathan Taylor did the same play last year, and they still got it in the playbook.
Starting point is 01:30:47 You think it's in the playbook? It obviously is. It obviously is in the playbook. Because if I'm there, I want to have the headphones on to be like, why is this happening again? Like, because I just don't understand. Look at her. look at her with her hands up yeah exactly like i don't understand if i i could just imagine if i was in
Starting point is 01:31:07 that locker room how devastating it was to lose that game last year the way they did with that play happening that everyone in that building kind of knows about like hey like we're not going to do this anymore this hold on to the ball you think she's like Shane uh today just make sure nobody drops the ball running into the end zone and costs us you know seven points and and then that same guy, he can't hold anybody and get a 70-yard touchdown callback. I also... I don't know...
Starting point is 01:31:38 No more touchback play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's take that out of the play. Take it out. Bro. Poor guy. I mean, A.D. Mitchell, I was going to say poor guy because he costs him the game.
Starting point is 01:31:50 And, like, he made a decision. It wasn't like he put his hands at his side and, like, dropped it. I think he was trying to reach out over the goal line. but it's just not a smart play. It's like why? He didn't need to, yeah. He was just so excited, like, because, like, the play in it's so talented.
Starting point is 01:32:06 The play in itself, and you know what's funny, like, I bet you here, I bet you hear to wish he got tackled. You just got tackled instead of making that good move to get close to the end zone, then none of this happened. No, but I think he wishes they just took the play out of the playbook. And then, but we can't talk about the Rams without talking about Jared Verst yesterday. I mean, like, he, he. He's not like, I don't know that he's going to be like a max, well, he's pretty disruptive. I don't want to put him in that echelon. But the fucking amount of flatbacks that he has on his career already, like he leads the league in flatbacks.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I mean, and he is disruptive. Like he's got two sacks this season. There's a bunch of guys with four or four and a half or whatever. You know, since he started his career, he might have six or seven sacks. But when you watch him play, it's the disruptions. it's the pressures. And even if he doesn't pressure the quarterback, there's something about running a guy the fuck over,
Starting point is 01:33:02 like lining him up, like middle hole and being like, hey, take a running start and run over that center. Like, that's kind of sticking that center's head the rest of the game. And he also made a huge play
Starting point is 01:33:13 basically calling game on a strip sack at the end of the game. You know, I just, he's fun to watch, man. He's the rare, pure brute strength edge guy.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Like, there's just not a lot of those anymore. I don't know why he's so fucking strong, but he has like a differentiating strength. Like, I don't know what it is. Yeah, and there's a... Somebody needs to study him.
Starting point is 01:33:36 There's a force multiplier effect there. League leader in sacks through four weeks. We'll tie for the league lead is Byron Young. Byron Young's a beast, though. You know, because some people attribute it all to Jared Verse, I just think it's because he's on a good defensive line. Yep. You know, Fisk, the whole gang,
Starting point is 01:33:55 Turner. Like, they really can. play and versus a big part of that. It's a great team rushes yesterday. Yeah. And we have to mention Tyler Warren. As the Colts go down the road, it's going to be nice to have a guy like that in the red zone and out in the field. Just a total stud.
Starting point is 01:34:09 So Rams win. It was kind of as advertised. Yeah. A lot of drama in that game. Thank you, Rams. Thank you Rams. You know why? Because of the Jags.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Doevo! Nate's at full throat right now. Pause. Awesome. No, the Jags look good, man. That was good. And the thing we said coming in the game is, as much I like Robert Sala and as good as the young players are playing,
Starting point is 01:34:41 and the Niners deserve a lot of credit. You know, we, but they just weren't going to win this game because they weren't going to be able to pressure Trevor Lawrence. I mean, it was like seven on seven for him out there. It looked like it at least, you know, I did. Seven total pressures? That's just not enough. It's not enough, but believe it or not,
Starting point is 01:34:57 it kind of was enough because Trevor didn't play well. Like this game was won because of our defense. We have, we lead the lead and takeaways. We've had at least three takeaways a game, which is nuts. Yeah. And every single game, this past one we have four. Yeah. But the fact that Trevor Lawrence is getting three to four extra possessions in a game,
Starting point is 01:35:21 like you have to find a way to win. You have to find a way to put up points. I feel like it just is, it's indicative. how well Jacksonville is playing right now because they're winning ugly games and the offense they're not on the same page I thought he I thought he played fine from what I saw I didn't get through the whole game this morning because every fucking team played yesterday got to convert on third downs third downs they were Robert thalla they had it dialed up they we were not converting on I think we converted like one third down and like when it counted like at
Starting point is 01:35:54 the end of the game and it was big but every other time it was three and out three and out three and out four for 14 on the day four for 14 on on on third downs on the day you can and still win the ball and you still win the ball game you know because your defense is taking the ball away special teams you get an 87 yard touchdown from parker washington on a punt return first time in eight years in the franchise history they have a pun return touchdown that long that's amazing um our defense Yo, Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd as a linebacker, you might not know him if you're not a Jacksonville fan.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Hey, get zero looks good on him. Get familiar. The kid wearing zero in the teal running from sideline to sideline. Jason the bag this year. Brough. Like, I love it. And just their defense as a whole, they're swarming. They're swarming.
Starting point is 01:36:45 They're making tackles. You see a lot of guys in the frame in the frame when it's the end of. end of the play, but I'm ecstatic about the Jaguars. And for someone who played defense, to see that they're getting this many takeaways a game is electric and that's something like, it's contagious. It's contagious to be on the defense to being like,
Starting point is 01:37:09 I wanna be the next guy to force the fumble or I wanna be the next guy to get the interception. Or I wanna do this and you're seeing that in real time. Eric Arnstead playing against his old team, having the key play. of getting that strip sack after after kind of bailing out. Bailing out the kicker missing, missing a field goal that would kind of clinch the game or know the game is a lot less obtainable than it would have been.
Starting point is 01:37:37 And then you come right back after that missed field goal and you make a sack like that to potentially clinch the game against your old team. Has to feel. Dude, they look, Cohen's a good coach. Very good. He's a good coach. That's the one thing I can tell. off the bat watching this team play their offense just looks faster i know they have they
Starting point is 01:37:56 have some new pieces and everything but the operation bow like when you watch the run game you know it was something Trevor lawrence never had to this point and the offensive line's never been a great protecting uh you know unit and and all the sudden like no matter what metric you look at like they're playing well up front and shout out to Travis intium because yeah all but dead not dead but like last year everyone was kind of like is he done yeah like trade rumors yeah yeah and He's the main guy. And then who did the Eagles just get? Tank Biggsby.
Starting point is 01:38:26 And then we hear that. You got your tooting. You got two. Yep, exactly. You got rid of tank. And you have two in. But Intian is the one. He's balling.
Starting point is 01:38:35 And he's bawling out of control. I'm just happy for him. And he's actually, he's our offense right now. Him, two one's running hard. And we have to keep getting those guys going so that we can stay in the winning column. And the little guys block. I saw Shador Sanders, or not. Shadur Sanders, his teammate, Travis Hunter, blocking his ass off yesterday.
Starting point is 01:38:55 All the receivers do. Shadoor Sanders didn't want to block yesterday. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter was blocking his ass off early in that game. And the same thing with, they've gotten a lot out of strange, the tight end. I mean, they've elevated him. You know, like, I think that Kansas City, they can beat Kansas City at home, but Trevor's got to play well. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:19 If Trevor doesn't play well, right? As Trevor, like I've, I'm worried about him throwing two picks into Spags. Traps. But look, even with two picks with the way we're going, that's still us up plus one in the turnover category. That's why. If Trevor Ler says those two picks, they're going to lose. By at least two scores. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:39:41 But if they, but if he doesn't throw any picks and he plays like, you know, I don't know what, like what I can compare. But if you, if you, if you go with. trajectory of way this season's going, we're the ones that getting the picks. We lead the league and takeaways. Yeah, they come in bunches. They come in bunches. But you know what people are going to say like some of these numbers nerds? Yeah. And they kind of got a point that like there's like a luck index and like, you know, you are creating some of these turnovers. No question. But like eventually but hey, we love the luck. Hey, the luck moves every year. It's bouncing from. No, I know. Just just has got to stay with y'all all year.
Starting point is 01:40:21 You got to make your own luck, which they're doing right now. I love it. Shout out for the pies on. Anthony Campanile. He's doing a great job. Boy's taking a ball away. And shout out to Eric Armstead, cut by the 49ers, and then he makes the game ceiling play.
Starting point is 01:40:37 That's awesome. And, hey, Sala, back up off Cohen. Like, chill out, bro. You know, you know you were dry fishing. I want to stay it. Right? I don't go. Bro, you know you were dry, you know you were dry stitching and being a little
Starting point is 01:40:49 cue in the media. Don't act surprise when someone steps up to you like a man and be like what do you mean we have a legal cheating system? Like you can't just say something like that. But that's not stepping up like a man in my opinion. It is. But like, bro. No, no, no, no. I'm with
Starting point is 01:41:06 you. Why are you putting credibility on my coach? No, okay. A couple things. And then don't expect me to say curb at you after the game. A couple things. I don't think and I have no problem with him like confronting Sala or something. You know, like I don't I think Sala what he charged him with was like an illegal activity.
Starting point is 01:41:24 It wasn't like he accused of me. Every team goes this. No, no, no, absolutely not. But it was kind of like a backhanded compliment. It is. But it's also cutie in the way that for everyone noticed, because I kind of want to know like, what the fuck do you mean by that? Like legal, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:41:39 I think he knows. You're talking about. No. Any time, anytime you see motion, you see shift, you see any kind of change in a formation. Watch the secondary. They're going to give any kind of, any kind of signal like this, like this where they're they're dictating the coverage yeah so every team is they're studying broadcast
Starting point is 01:41:54 copy tapes if they get a look at that they can maybe they can hear the audio of what they're calling every team does this and sala he even shouted out like i think he shouted out shanan he shouted out mcvay shouted out kevin o'connell saying like all these guys do it really well and leum does it really well too i think it was a compliment i do too and that's my thing is like i'm just such a sola fan as a person like to me my radar for like a dickhead doesn't even start to go off when i when i see when i've watched sala like operating he's been in some shitty situation so admittedly for me and i like leum cohen i think he's a great ball coach you can tell right away and it's probably a calculated risk where you're like i'm going to get my players are going to like this and that sort of thing but i just
Starting point is 01:42:39 to me it seemed a little bit like the the nature of it like keep my name out of your fucking mouth bro like You know where the locker room is. If you want to have that conversation, go have it outside the locker room. Who? Who? Not of all the media cameras. But that's not how. But that's not how Sala, like, presented the situation.
Starting point is 01:43:00 He's the one that put it in the media. He's the one that made the public. You might be mischaracterical. Publicly complimenting him. No, yeah, yeah. I hear you. But I don't think it'd be like, hey, man, like if the Rams, like one of the years where we had a bunch of sacks, if somebody was like, man, they're getting off the ball.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I think they're looking at the play clock. I think they're studying the TV copy for Cadence. I think that they're getting run past keys. Well, I'd be like, thank you very much. Yeah, we're not all that dumb, are we? Yeah. You know, and I understand, like, I'm not a coach, so I don't understand what it feels like to be accused of something like that,
Starting point is 01:43:33 even if it was in a way of, like, you know, kind of a compliment. Because I was going to say, when I heard it say, I was like, all Robert Salah is saying, even if it was trying to be a dig at our coaches, You're just saying that we have good coaches that we have coaches that are going above and beyond legally to gain to gain an edge for our guys to win and be successful. A 30% of the chat smokes crack cocaine. Well, and that's what I was going to say. Like, why if you're Liam Cohen.
Starting point is 01:44:01 The poll is who wins in a fight? Robert Salah or Liam Cohen 70% at my time of voting. I vote in my own goal. Wait, well, they say who? Well, 30% said Cohen. Oh, would win in a fight. Yeah, that's wild. That's a wild.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Oh, you think it's a hundred zero that there's no... Salah? Salah's a dog, dude. Like, Salah's a tough other fucking... And that's why Cohen can pick any member of his staff to fight with him and Salas... Somebody needs to volunteer his tribute. Well, and that's why Cohen said it on the field because if he says it behind closed doors, like, it's not going to matter. You're going to want on the field because you can't...
Starting point is 01:44:38 Hold me back! Like, Salah can't fight back. You got people to hold you back. Exactly. It's smart. That's a smart. I mean, Cohen is from Warwick, Rhode Island. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:48 War, it gets crazy out there. Yeah, it does. Any, any, any, any, any, any, any, any, was roommates with Victor Cruz, like, in college. So, so. Cohen? Yeah. Well, ask, ask Victor Cruz if he thinks Cohen could beat up Robert's Allen. And I don't want it to go there because, like, we don't need to fight about everything.
Starting point is 01:45:08 No, it's not. Like, and also, I just, I want to say this. I like Liam. Cohen. I just think it was like, bro, I like, I'm on here. I love, I like Robert Salad, but did Salah really say, I know, no, no, Nick Wagner, no, Nick Wagner, who's, who, who, who, who usually like straight up on, on the ball. He was my NFC West guy. Now he's like San Francisco's dude, but like, I saw a tweet where it was, it had the quote from Cohen and then after it had like a quote presumably from Robert Salah that said like, I'll fucking, I'll fucking end you, bro. Like,
Starting point is 01:45:39 I'll fucking, you be careful what you have, like, I will end you. Who said that? Salah? I'm paraphrasing, but it was like, that was the alleged quote from Salah. The quote is, I'll fuck your world up. You don't want to fuck with me. I'll fucking end your fucking life.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Allegedly the quote. I love it up on the board here. I love it. I feel like there's just two passionate coaches. And you know what? In a perfect world, Robert Salah, come on. Come on work for Liam Cohen. Get that.
Starting point is 01:46:08 His offensive mind, what's your defense of mind? yeah i could go for but if you're gonna be saying all that it's just like two dbs like punching each other in the helmet like go fucking go in the concourse and talk about it absolutely like one time i couldn't hear the audio i couldn't hear it on the audio on this clip but that's what the the quote says yeah yeah there's just there's a good time to to get at somebody and it's not usually like i don't think you want to fight anybody who says that yeah like that's I'll fuck your world up. You don't want to fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:46:43 I will fucking end your life. End your life is just like, oh, I'm good. You hear end your life. You're like, yep. Heard. All right. That looks like my D. I'm not that guy, pal.
Starting point is 01:46:57 I get this crazy threats. Oh, I can imagine. You know? I can imagine. The way, yeah. Yeah. So anyways. The way you'd be talking about the lions.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Yeah, the way I talk about the lions. That's what it is. Oh, are the lions up soon? I can't wait to talk about my lions. So that's that's Jags getting the win Good for them It's time for the ladies and gentlemen It's time for the flyovers
Starting point is 01:47:18 Yeah 26 nothing Texans get the win Gotta be honest Only was able to skim this game But I did see That Cam Ward has The fortitude to admit that they are ass In the post game press conference
Starting point is 01:47:39 And our guy He kept it a buck. He kept it a buck. And Coach Callahan, who seemed awesome when I interviewed him, like, evidently, they tell me his job's in danger. He's 318 over the last two seasons. 3.18. That's not good. Not good.
Starting point is 01:47:59 But for the Texans, good job getting on the winning path here. I mean, fuck. And a weirdest trade in the world is like, they're like, you know what? We have the worst offensive line in the league. We're going to trade one of our tackles. and the buyer is Cleveland Cleveland. Like Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:48:16 What do you do it over? Like Andrew Andrew? What? Hello? Andrew Barry? You want to play? What the fuck you guys want? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Like what do you want? You want to tackle? Sure. I was kind of enthralled with the Nico Collins and and Ligerius Sneed like little light trash talk we had leading up to the game where Ligerius Sneed was like, who? And, uh, the reporters really missed an opportunity there.
Starting point is 01:48:44 Oh, my dog. No, and yeah, these. And then Nico Collins goes for like 75 yards on four catches. And after the game, Nico Collins' commentary was the most unwide receiver-like commentary I've ever heard. He was like, you know, because it was his chance to take a victory lap. And they were like, you know, what do you have to say about Legerisneed asking who, you know, something to that effect? and he was like oh no big deal like you know i got a lot of respect for him it was a good game like that doesn't sound like a wide receiver at all to me no not when we're used to seeing crash
Starting point is 01:49:21 out yeah go ahead and play that that interview this is this is from before the before the game uh nico said i'm a dog i don't say much i just play you can talk all you want blind that shit up yeah but that's not the one yeah so anyways trust me after the game he was super chill about it um But yeah, Cam Ward is in crisis. And I think this is a good time to remind people that have compared Cam Ward to Mahomes, that Mahomes got to sit to start his career. And at some point, I'm not saying you have to sit him down because of performance. I'm saying, like, it is a burning building.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Like, he almost got decapitated yesterday by Aziz Al-Shayr. And they didn't even throw a flag, by the way. So I guess he hasn't earned that privilege yet. but I think for everybody, and I do see Mahomes' like vision from this kid, like where he sees the field a little bit different, but Mahomes never had to deal with this shit. This is just not going to be good for the quarterback's development.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Kim Ward, meet Joe Brady. Is that it for this game? Geez, I thought some guys was just a fucking game. No, no, no, reverse the plane, reverse the plane. Oh. Jeffrey Simmons. Oh, yes. talk about that oh great cool wow 2.09 seconds fastest sack lead y over the last two seasons
Starting point is 01:50:41 yeah that was uh that was something else i mean i think uh i think maybe there was a bus there i think the tweet i think there was a tweet going viral with this clip and it was just like yeah c j strouds offensive lineman hate him because if you watch how quick he gets this sack it's just like bro just they might all just be really big astros fans Oh yeah, that's funny. Yeah, you can't wear that hat, man. All right, so I guess y'all got nothing else on that game? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Thank God I talk too much. All right, what's the next game? Falcons comies. Nolan, you want to take this one, buddy? Yep. So this week, we were, obviously last week we talked about, you know, being a tough day at the office for Panics, and you just wanted to see them take a step forward.
Starting point is 01:51:34 and man, I love this tape from Panics. I thought it was an overall, just a heightened sense of command. He was decisive. Just looked like a different dude from last week in terms of the timing, anticipation. I was talking on Friday about wanting to see him be more like Jared Goff in the passing game in terms of being able to work the middle of the field. And you definitely saw shades of that. And it really opened up some of the outside the number stuff too that they cashed in on.
Starting point is 01:52:02 everybody saw the highlight of the London catch. Then the B. John, a big play in the passing game as well. That was actually a play they came back to. They tried that early on. It was one of the first third downs of the game. It was a mesh concept with a rail route. The first one, B. John was a third receiver in a bunch, and Pennix just got to it late, couldn't get the ball there in time.
Starting point is 01:52:23 So credit to the coaching staff, they circled that one. They came back to it in a key spot. And they just changed the formation a little bit. B. John released from the pistol form. and Pax hit him in stride for a big gain. Did we see any less pistol? Still a lot of pistol. They love that pistol.
Starting point is 01:52:41 But I did. I got through one series before we kind of ran out of time and I saw him rip the seam and it was like, oh, he looks immediately more confident that he did for whatever reason a week before. And look, like when you talk about QBs and talk about evaluating QBs, it's commonly said, you know, the evaluation starts after they throw a pick, you know, kind of say. see how they respond. I think that logic can extend on a game to game basis where if they turn in a bad performance, how do they respond the next week?
Starting point is 01:53:11 And whatever you see from them on the field, that following week, it's a reflection of the work they put in during the week. So he did a hell of a job. The offense, just a great bounceback performance for them. And how about him responding after Rahim Morris's comment? He said after last week's game, Kirk lost his job. We're nowhere near that with Michael, but there was still some pressure, right? And then after yesterday's game, Rahim Mora said right after, he didn't hesitate when asked
Starting point is 01:53:38 when he saw something that confirmed his belief in Michael Pennock's Jr. After last week's loss to Carolina, Monday when he came to work, I believed in him that day. Right after the loss, he came right back to work. It was ready to go. Yeah. I mean, we love the intangibles about this dude. We think that's one of his best qualities. That in like an RPG on his shoulder.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I mean, he really does. Live on. He's got all fucking line. arm he throws the ball like 100 miles an hour like you can go from herbert tape to pennix tape and you're like whoa pennix throws the ball harder yeah totally which is not always a good thing but right but he puts some mustard on it um anything else from this got a mention from this game boy if i may interject yeah there's something about the falcons sky cam like 4k sky cam that is so sick they did you guys see that overhead view of that run from bjohn robinson that they put out on social media
Starting point is 01:54:32 It's my Bevel Conway of the day. It's such a cool clip. Shout to our guy awesome. It feels like you're. I think our guy awesome we met down there is the guy who operates that. There's a hell of a job. Really? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:54:42 yeah, yeah. Dude, you just feel like, you know in like Mario Kart when they have the little guy in the camera and that's who's following you around when you're playing? That's kind of what you feel like when you're watching that HD clip of Bejan Robinson. That was a cool clip. Go check that out if you haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:54:56 My anti-bevel Conway is this game, period. these two uniform like combined on this field was hideous um you know I did run out of time watching the all 22 of this game
Starting point is 01:55:11 but I'm not sorry that I did because it was it was a tough watch give me glaucoma I watched one series of the fucking game and gave me glaucoma um so yeah anti-bevel conway is going to be this game I don't mean to make light of glaucoma for the people out there
Starting point is 01:55:26 what do you say you got the left-handed cigarettes for the glaucoma that's exactly right as i had to medicate immediately oh fuck look at this uniforms it is almost that time dude before we know it it's going to be money football yeah that not crazy yeah double nose we're getting a football washing machine yeah okay a few more of these flyovers oh the lions man i want to talk about the lions uh in one game because Bill's Saints or you just want to go lines oh you guys have a different order that's fine go ahead Bill's saints you all better have something to say about this fucking me spieler spitzer rattler almost hey you're almost there guy like I don't know what to say
Starting point is 01:56:21 the kid he plays hard it's just a classic Bill's home game where they're laying a bunch of points. I told you about this. Now I think it's eight and three in the last three years when when the bills are playing a team at home that they're laying like six or more points like the dog covers. I mean, just they sleepwalk through these spots. And I think at one point in the game, it's a one score game late in the deal and they got to go on a four play drive. It's like the bills are just like, you know what? It's getting a little late. I'm trying to put Spencer Rattler to bed. Let's put this out of reach. But to say Spencer, he's getting them in the territory he's getting them down the field they're in the red zone a lot what the but buffalo's
Starting point is 01:57:00 defense limited the saints to 19 points despite new Orleans first nine drives ending in bills territory so all that means is they got to have some extra red zone practices they got to get some new red zone plays you guys got to find a way to score some points i mean Spencer like he's doing right like that means you're doing it right i know but ultimately this is a this is a saints win nobody realizes they're tanking. We're all like just heaping compliments on the quarterback in a year. They're going to be like, sorry. Here's Arch Manning or whoever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:57:39 And Spencer Rattler is going to go start for somebody else at some point. I think I'm pretty impressed with, I mean, for a guy that like you have no expectations about. No, seriously. Because that's what a lot of this league is with quarterbacks is like it depends on what they plan on you being. Yeah. Like if they plan on you being the guy, they're going to, they're going to bust their ass to to get players or they're, or they're going to burn the whole situation down like they've done with C.J. Stroud the last two years or, you know, they played, you know, that you get the Sam Darnold, New York chapter where, you know, but I do think for the most part, you're going to get a
Starting point is 01:58:13 better outcome if you're the, if you're the guy and he's not the guy. But he can play himself into the conversation. Yeah, why not? I don't want disrespect Spencer Rattler. Oh, do I get to talk about the Lions? Is there anything else? So I want to get my STL Memorial to Detroit's offensive tackles, man. That was not an easy draw playing this Brown's team. I mean, by the way, I said Fantastic 17 times in last night's live. It was like I lost a fucking bet and said the word.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I just kept saying it. And I was like, what the fuck happened to me? I don't even like that word. But the lions were great last day. and Detroit's tackles were, I don't know what the final numbers were, but I felt like they kept Jared golf pretty damn clean. And, you know, Decker got most of the Miles Garrett burden.
Starting point is 01:59:07 They obviously threw some extra bodies at Miles Garrett, but those guys played well. And Penae Sewell in the run game yesterday was fantastic. Only 16 total pressures from the Browns D line. That's pretty impressive for that group. There was a moment where Hutch went down. and I thought he was dead. I was like, oh, my God, he hurt himself again.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Like my life flashed before my eyes as a rusher, and I'm just like, oh, my God, his career's over. And it ended up being like he got the wind knocked out of him. There were dudes in Hutchinson jerseys, like, crying in the stands. It really looked bad for a second. Didn't it on TV? Did y'all see this? Yeah, but it was nuts.
Starting point is 01:59:43 If you've never gotten the wind knocked out of you. Oh, I have. That's how it feels for her a good five to seven seconds, like you might die until you gasp and get. get that breath of air. Yeah. That's how it literally feels. Rashad Jennings, 2003, state championship.
Starting point is 02:00:01 He went on to play in the NFL. Yeah. He was a 250-pound running back. But Jags teammate. Yeah, I ran out. Chris, he showed me that video. Did I show you that video? He cleaned my shit out.
Starting point is 02:00:11 I was working at the NFL media boot camp this week. And he's like, what do you do? I was like, oh, I worked in Greenlight Pyle. Chris Long was like, oh, I played against him in high school. He's like, I got to show you. He had the video in his back pocket. That's so great. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:00:23 was there too. So Kyle was like, this fucking guy we're at lunch. He's like, this guy lit him up so bad. He was like being all cool about it. And then Kyle was like, you got to show him. So like, I think it was actually Kyle that looked up the video. No, I was sick. It was totally sick hit. It was totally legal. And I was sprinting after a play and never saw that I didn't get the license plate. Yeah. On, on that dude. And LCA had some fucking good ball players. They had a couple guys going to college. But it was like me and Rashad Jennings and we ended up winning the game and we kicked their fucking ass like we got after him but it was the fourth quarter and I'm running after a play and he just decletes me on our sideline and I just remember being like and like I look over to the side
Starting point is 02:01:04 and like and because my dad used to like hang out in the back of the sideline because he didn't want to like draw attention but he was like back there and I like rolled over and I like saw him and he's just like looking at me like get up like get up and I was like you know I come in the next play and I'm like I'm fucking kill you rasha and chill out bro um so anyways uh i i also i don't know what the fuck you know morton's calling that play where you know on that long gibbs run where i don't even know what to call that motion where st brown comes in and kind of fish hook motions around golf who's in the gun and then they hand it off to uh to to to um i guess it was gibbs they handed off to gibbs and then they've got to pump off of it.
Starting point is 02:01:52 It was just, it was devious, man. So, you know, just really good stuff from the Lions against the team that we said, the interior defensive line has been playing their ass off. The edges are held to deal with. I love watching Delpit out there battling with, like, guys like Amun Rae St. Brown. It's just a fun matchup. Unfortunately, for Cleveland, they don't have an offense, so they can't win games like this, but they can at least make things interesting for about
Starting point is 02:02:17 half of the day. But they did trade for a tackle, though, so things should change. I'm sorry to say this, but they got to get Flackle the fuck out of there. Like, Flackle's not cutting it. He has two touchdowns this season, six interceptions, and he's been sacked nine times. Like the one thing... Bro, they haven't scored more than 17 points. The one game that they won, they scored 13 points.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Yeah. It's just like, yo, like, give the young guy, like, let him start a game. I'd love to see Shudor Sanders play. I love to. So everybody can... Everybody can- Or let Gabriel start. Either of them. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Let him start and like, let them fail and play bad at least so, so we can know on the outside that they will fail. Yeah, like they will fail. They're not set up to win there. And that's the point is like, you know, if you're trying to develop a young quarterback, like the thing we're talking about with Cam Ward, okay, let's throw Dilling Gabriel in, hey, who they might have aspirations of plan. You know, like everybody and their uncle is begging for Chador. to play like they're going to see some result that's any different than the preseason it's going to be a bloodbath and that doesn't mean i don't think either those guys can play it's just like bro this is a
Starting point is 02:03:28 fucked up situation they just traded for a houston texan tackle but but it's a must c t look that's a public declaration but it's a must see tv blood bloods everyone everyone's tuned in for that blood yeah rogers like hey stefansky i'm going to get you fired unless you put door in the game because we need a little ratings hike we need it in the next browns game so um okay and and the only shout out shout out the juckins he is playing well he's a dog for their offense he's the only bright spot he is a all their young guys are playing well are dogs are they're playing really well and that's like it's sad i'm sorry fuck we need to move on we're talking about the browns too much in the lions breakdown we are you know what that is that is sad though for a young guy
Starting point is 02:04:18 to be playing hard, but just to be in a historic system that maybe isn't run the right way. Or if you're like social media person, you're just like, damn, they're shitting on us every fucking week. Like, do I want to be here? I know somebody that played on a team like this as a young player. I can tell you, it is not fun. It affects the outcomes for sure. For every player on the field. It is, I mean, but the good.
Starting point is 02:04:48 thing is when their rookies play well in this scenario and being on defense with cleveland's a little bit different now which is also nice because jim schwartz keeps things so fucking simple yeah like that's the one good thing about it where it's like these guys are going to play fast um now being on the cleveland offense as much i like the oc not very good um okay so the last game we have is this the last game no we got two more but what did you see in the pats game bro chris i'm going to keep it a buck with you Panthers are ass. Nice. There's a lot I saw in this game.
Starting point is 02:05:20 It's a good win for the Patriots. I think the big storyline out of this is just Drake May looks very comfortable, all right? Especially on third down. Let me read you some stats about Drake May on third down. Drake May on third down to open the season, 125.5 pass rating is first, 80.6% completion rate is first. 9.6 yards per attempt. Second, 45.2% first down rate is 8.5.5.5% first down rate is 8%. basically he looked comfortable he looked good Bryce young I'm personally not a huge fan of he
Starting point is 02:05:51 actually had a pretty good opening series I think it was probably their scripted stuff that they had offensively he looked to be pretty dialed but then my STL memorial award winner is actually Marcus Jones he had an 87 yard punt return for a touchdown and that happened pretty early in that game after that it felt like the Panthers were just not even really fighting for and the Yeah, the Patriots really, they just looked like, you know, their offense looked good. I like what they're doing offensively. A lot of safe stuff for Drake Bay. Sometimes I worry about the fact that they don't have a ton of weapons offensively.
Starting point is 02:06:25 But they're distributing the ball well. Also, like, pretty committed to their run game, but just like running their offense. And he looked comfortable in it. And I think that's kind of the main takeaway from this. Like, Drake may look good. Good throws to digs. He got digs very involved. He had six receptions or 101 yards.
Starting point is 02:06:44 with a 33 yard long he's actually going to get my best seat because it's a pretty good game for him and also he got he knocked up cardi B which i think is cool and apparently that was sweet and with cardi B he is a best seat wow yeah wow wow cowboy you like that carty B cowboy had that had that call on the script and he waited until like the fourth quarter i like that good pull damn dude that's incredible um Um, people, no, I think, go ahead. Just to wrap up the summary, Chris, Drake Bay is looking pretty good. Stevenson, you know, he didn't fumble, which is good, bounce back a little bit.
Starting point is 02:07:24 But I just think they look pretty complete offensively. Drake May looks comfortable and Pat's got a big win at home. So that's pretty much all I have for that. And the Panthers are ass. Hey, this just in, uh, people are looking back at AJ Brown's post on Instagram after the Super Bowl. Yeah. I tried to feel how everyone made it seem to be a champion, and unfortunately it was short-lived.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Two days to be exact, L.O.L. I thought my hard work would be justified by winning it all. It wasn't. My throw for this game comes from when I dominate. It's the hunt that does it for me. It's when the DV drops his head and surrender because he can't F with me. Is this, did I miss this novel, novella? No, we...
Starting point is 02:08:07 I think it was the tweet and delete. No, no, no, it stayed up. We talked about it. It was, um, uh, because it was like midweek after the Super Bowl. The intense battles, early mornings, late nights, sacrifice. I love putting smiles on people's faces. Don't get me wrong, but it, but it just wasn't what I thought it would be. It's the journey that I love the most back to work.
Starting point is 02:08:26 He's saying the same thing Jalen Hertz said after the game, which is that like, I don't feel any different. I want more. Yeah. You know, no, I mean. AJ Brown, that's, he's, he's a little selfish. I, I hear, I hear, I hear what you're saying. But, but here's the thing about.
Starting point is 02:08:41 selfish because you know like there are some guys that they just want to make plays it's not that they want to be the ones to make plays like if i'm not out here dominating then what the fuck am i do no absolutely and so like for him i would assume that there's a lot of that where it's like you take personal pride when it's a team game no question that's like a little but but we are all selfish yeah but to be outwardly that's something that you got to do and quiet because your team is winning y'all are like y'all are defending chile champs. It's just like you have to know that even if you really feel this way. They didn't complete a pass in the second half. If there's a time to do it, it's time is now. But
Starting point is 02:09:20 not after a win. Like I hear you because that's what everyone's going to say. Then fans should all quiet down after a win and they shouldn't complain about anything. Then everybody should just fucking hey, we're hey, we're the best team in the history of sports. I'm just playing devil's avenue. I hear you. No, no, no, you're supposed to. Because I don't want to tear down AJ and say he's selfish when I have never seen him really do anything. to me, like, and I honestly haven't heard, because I know guys on the team, and I know people in the organization, nobody's ever said, like, AJ Brown's a bad guy.
Starting point is 02:09:50 Like, but seeing that, I've heard words like misunderstood. Seeing him tweet and put stuff out, knowing the type of reaction you're maybe going to get. He got a little emotional. Yeah, and the type of distraction it brings for the next week or the next coming weeks or any time you don't have a hundred-yard reception game. It's going to be asked or there's going to be some report. order being like oh i'm gonna get this story like like and ask a question that might trigger you i just feel like you're setting yourself up for like no for not good takes i hear you no i hear you i i'm i'm i'm
Starting point is 02:10:22 more discussing like what not the tweet but like what's in the tweet or what's in the instagram post that everybody's like well what a selfish dude you know like well not not necessarily the timing of yesterday's tweet was inherently a little bit selfish right because you you're like, hey, we won the game, but look at... Look at me. Well, he's not saying all that. He's just, he's got emotional because this means the world to the cat and the guys, like everybody else out there. We could do better.
Starting point is 02:10:51 He can do better. Yeah. And he's being held hostage right now in that offense, which I totally get. Like, get the trade package ready. Hey, shit. I don't know about that. Hang on anywhere. No.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Don't even get that, don't even get that rumor started. Oh, man. No. I know, but, but, you know, my whole thing is if people are going to say like, hey, fucking put a smile on your face, then I, those same people can't be in public forms discussing the Eagle shortcomings. Everything's just got to be perfect then. And I understand. And look, and this is. And this is why I say that.
Starting point is 02:11:28 An AJ tweet and a fan tweet. But look, this is why I say this. Yeah. Because not saying that he's better or whatever, but his production, DeVante, he's. Smith, you have, you have, you have, you have a wide receiver that, like, we don't hear any of this stuff from. Like, we don't hear this type of stuff. He's not the same.
Starting point is 02:11:47 He might not be as good. But he's a great player. And, like, realistically, he can be out there and he could be saying this stuff. And a lot of people would be like, well, I feel him because he's, like, he's good. Like, he's really good. Absolutely. But absolutely. And I've told you this before.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Like, when Whalen watches games, when my son's Whalen, Wailen Looch's games, I say, hey, you You know that dude right there? Devante? Yep. Smith, that's a guy you should play football. Like, I know you're not going to play wide receiver in the NFL, not to kill your dream. But let's say you're playing in the NFL one day. And that's why I say that, like, on both sides.
Starting point is 02:12:24 When you have both of that on your team or you can look at this guy and look at this guy, how they're... There's a better way to go about. For sure. For sure. For sure. But what do you like the Liam Cohen outburst, though? That's a little selfish.
Starting point is 02:12:39 No, I told you. Like I said, you can't be mad at Liam when he didn't start it. Like, you can't, you can't tell me how to respond. Yeah, but Petulow started it with AJ Brown. If you like, if you like the fire. What did AJ Brown do to Petulow? So, um, the last thing is that we got, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is, the Raiders, man. Mew.
Starting point is 02:13:03 You know, it, it, it, I, it, I, it, I'm looking forward to getting in this game because it sounds like Caleb played pretty well. Yeah. Everybody's looking at me. Did Caleb, how'd Caleb play, fellas? I have not seen the tape. I only saw. Nobody's seen.
Starting point is 02:13:17 That's why it's a flyover. We haven't gotten there. Thank you, fellas. So we'll just, we'll just skip over that. I will say. The Bears block the kick to win a game. The Bears blocked the kick to win a game. That's been happening and left them right in the NFL special teams.
Starting point is 02:13:31 But the bears are never on this side of a nail biter in a long time. No, things feel, I mean, people are willing things to feel different in Chicago. put it that way. People are willing things to feel different. I do think, as I've said for probably six months now, I think I think you have the guy. Um, but there are going to be growing pains. He looks more confident. Everybody looks happier. Ben Johnson looks like a psychopath coming out of the half. Who had who had crazier energy? Liam Cohen post game or, or, or Ben Johnson at the half? Um, Roma Dunezay has been a fucking stud. I just know, I, I, I know that.
Starting point is 02:14:11 And for the Raiders, man, like, they're in position to win this football game. Like, and as bad as the offensive line is, Colton Miller's out with a high ankle sprain now. So it's only getting worse. Ashton Genty was going off. Three putties with a terrible old line. So I'm looking forward to see Caleb's tape because a couple weeks ago, I was told after the Detroit game, no, he looked like shit in the Detroit game. And then the week before it was like, or the week after that, it was someone. other thing and what it's going to be this week.
Starting point is 02:14:42 I just know my brother Kyle Long is going to have a big victory lap plan for this week, and I hope you don't end up on one of his receipts that he's pulling. Because the bears are a wagon right now. A wagon. Kevin Byard, safety Kevin Byard, two picks. Picks of Gino Smith twice. Great play. Bro, that leads me to my STL Memorial Award.
Starting point is 02:15:03 Look at that. My second one of the day. This goes out to Al Harris, my old teammate. He is the defensive passing game coordinator there. And, you know, with all the guys that they've been missing, you know, Kyler, Jalen, I think they lost another corner. And that's all happened in the first month of the season. He's, I think the last two games, they forced six turnovers, the secondary, something like that.
Starting point is 02:15:33 I mean, they've been all over it. And Byrd was awesome yesterday, turning back the hands of time. you know i just think i think al harris there's a big shout out i'm sorry to say i forget who shouted him out on twitter um but it's it's very appropriate my old teammate al harris fantastic dude fantastic and he was in dallas when uh dallas was coming up with all those picks so maybe at some point here al harris will get his shot um because he's an awesome dude who's a great player he seems like he's just as good a coach so shout out to al harris with a depleted secondary turning the ball over with regularity.
Starting point is 02:16:11 Eight turnovers the last two games. It's been awesome. Big time. So, um, all right. Well, I, I guess I forgot to give out a couple, uh, awards. I'm going to get my worst flight to the, the Packers. Cause flying home after a tie. Um, and it was funny.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Tariko was like, well, you know, if you win this game, you get out of here, you go home, you party. I'm like, no, they don't. It's going to be seven in the fucking morning, dude. They probably landed so early this morning, and Love and LaFleur probably were talking about clock management in first class for quite a while. I bet Love had to go up there and fucking sit there with the iPad and talk to LaFleur about what the fuck almost happened at the end of the game. Best flight. Give me the bears, man.
Starting point is 02:16:59 West Coast trips are fun, and when you win on the West Coast is even more fun. And any flight out of Vegas is the best flight in the world. I agree. No doubt. I agree. Best seat. The marketers and the people selling smelling salts. Because they took a big hit last year when the NFL announced that they were banning the teams from providing it to players.
Starting point is 02:17:26 And then you see someone like Aaron Rogers rip a smelling salt before throwing an 80-yard touchdown. And then there was a kicker maybe on Thursday night who wrote. rip the smelling salt right before hitting the game winner. Jason Myers. So it's just, that's just beautiful, like just marketing for them that they don't have to pay for. Because I could just imagine,
Starting point is 02:17:51 if you're someone who had one of those accounts, like how much money you probably lost, like with the NFL just banning it. Well, I don't know, but like it is a situation where nobody ever thought about smelling salts until they banned it. And now, like, when you see it on TV,
Starting point is 02:18:04 you're like, damn, that dude's got some contraband in this motherfucker. You know, and there's kids out there that are like seeing Rogers rip a slant after he's like, you can have kids going to school with smelling salt. It's actually a bad deal. The ammonia? That's a bad deal, dude. Man, there's still best seat for the marketers.
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Starting point is 02:19:09 That's crazy. Bet MGM. So we've got a, we've got a couple phone line, a couple voicemails from the people. Thanks again for dialing us up. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Bill. But yeah, first one, we got a, we got a little report from Ireland. Yo, fellas.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Brandy Walsh, Philadelphia, reporting live from Dublin, Ireland. It's on the ground here for the Green Light podcast. Just kind of sent a boss real quick before I get whacked out for the first box game here. Real quick, dude. I mean, the game was absolutely sensational. What a freaking awesome atmosphere. So much energy. You know, the national anthems were beautiful.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Fans beautiful. What a great now. Three quick stories for you guys. First off, I had a shout out my guy. This guy was about 10 rows above me. He was rocketed a year. He always had Terrell Ellen's Cowboys jersey. She's pain.
Starting point is 02:20:05 I mean, what is what in all-time NFL. I don't know. even care who the guy actually roots for. Just a super fan to the core. And probably my favorite jersey I show all day as Torello over the Cowboys. Number two, shout out to the guys behind me. All day they're rooting for DJ that cap.
Starting point is 02:20:25 Not sure they actually know his name is D.K., but they bet on him 150 yards. Two of the most Irish lads I've ever heard. Just absolute wedge in every aspect. And also, double shout out. to those guys. They were getting so annoyed with the refs shouting out that 74 was
Starting point is 02:20:44 eligible all game. They thought they were like giving their offensive tackle on the field was a hard time that he wasn't catching any passes. So all games they're just shouting, oh, get him the ball one fucking time. And he obviously didn't.
Starting point is 02:21:02 But I tried to tell them that, hey, they legally have to do that and they did not care. But anyway, Joe Birds fucking love you guys Cheers Hey we love you And I'm so jealous
Starting point is 02:21:13 That I'm not there That's my brother-in-law Franny No I know Great work Franie He's the man Great job Great report
Starting point is 02:21:19 He was there Yeah oh yeah Branny his wife today The whole gang We over there Getting after it Oh I wish I'd
Starting point is 02:21:26 Are you just super NFL fans They had They had this trip planned And then they just Kind of waited Out on tickets And tickets
Starting point is 02:21:32 Just plummeted The last second I got for like 100 bucks Or something Wow To the actual game Yeah They were going to Ireland as is.
Starting point is 02:21:40 That's just lined up with their trip, yeah. Well, next Ireland. DJ Maccalf. DJ Metcalf. DJ Metcalf. Give that big hooker the bowl. Damn, and worst seat is what? The backup quarterback, you go out to Ireland and you get beat up mugged.
Starting point is 02:21:57 Damn, son. You got to stay on resort. Yeah, and I don't like that. I actually don't like that story. I don't like when I hear stories about guys like being alone. Like, I can hear if it's like a group of guys got mugged and robbed together, but just one teammate, like, just being out in the bout in a different country, it's kind of like, you're not close enough for someone to hear you yell out. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:22:24 Like, it's, and it's not like you're with friends who are tiny and scared of the fight. You're with teammates. Yeah. And, like, the fact that you're far enough away or somewhere where no one can hear you yell out for some help. I just feel like that's kind of weird, but that has to feel bad. Or like, I don't want a victim blame, but it's just, it's just, I don't want a victim blame, but Skyler Thompson. I wish they took all your shit. It's just like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:53 I don't know, man. Well, good thing is the NFL PA is actively gathering more information and working to understand the full circumstances surrounding what took place. So that's good. They should have that in no time. Are they? A couple more voicemail. Okay, cool. Listen, I want whiny eagle fans to shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:23:15 You know, I'm hearing this, oh, I'm getting 2023 eagle vibe. Shut the fuck up. This ain't the 2023 Eagles. This is the 2025 Eagles. Listen, we got, the difference is, it's the defense. We had the last ranked defense in 2023. This year, we're riding the D. I'm riding the fucking D.
Starting point is 02:23:38 with these Eagles and Jaylen Hurt is playing out of this fucking line. So shut the fuck up whiny Eagles fans and say the 20, 23 Eagles. All right. We're riding the D and we're rolling with Jaylin. All right. Yeah, riding the D. The guy's got WIP on speed dial for sure.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Oh, my God. No, it's just, it's, we, the timeline, Eagles timeline, like Eagles Twitter is like, it's unhinged right now. Like it's just the people eating each other alive and like it's just everybody's got some hot take. It's like the purge. It's like the purge. We're four weeks in.
Starting point is 02:24:19 Yeah. We're four weeks in. We're four and oh. Fellas. The Eagles are four and oh. Just just relax. Now, now if you have concerns about the team, I wouldn't say those people need to shut the fuck up. Right.
Starting point is 02:24:32 Let's let it play out. Yeah. Right. Totally. That guy's riding the D. It's been riding the D for a month The D. Dear Lord.
Starting point is 02:24:42 Yo, Chris, it only even fucking matter. We can play the first half, we can play the second half. It doesn't matter. The Eagles fucking win. That's all. The Eagles win, baby.
Starting point is 02:24:55 And whoever's hating on you can go fucking suck a cheese steak. Go birds, dick, hand. Hey, my question is, do we have anybody not calling from the, uh, what is it, two one five?
Starting point is 02:25:06 area code we've got one okay let's speak for those people guys guys guys can we get doris kessler on to make some picks come on now we got to make that happen i guarantee it she puts up a better record that make and read facts all you do darth kettler is the queen of the bird gang love that lady oh yeah doris kessler she's uh eagle super fan yeah beau you got to tell us about doris absolutely legend electric first of all she was decked out in the eagles gear at the tailgate before the game it was like 105 degrees drinking her hand a couple empties underneath came up and wanted to get a photo and i was like i have to interview she was talking about the birth and she was truly a gem man like phenomenal individual i think she could be a good offensive coordinator if the eagles are interested
Starting point is 02:25:59 in that i've seen that um yeah i think that could play out well her football knowledge is pretty unmatched. She's seen it all. But now it was cool talking to her. She said her favorite player is Jason Kelsey. I was like, okay, that's pretty sweet. I was expecting her to say like Chuck Bidnerick or, you know, Ron Jaworsky or something like that. But yeah, it's fun talking to her. She's a, she's a gem. She went to the game too. I was bitching about it the whole time about how hot it was. She was there as a trooper. Real toughness out of Doris. Big fan. Yeah, Doris, that's incredible. I don't even like going out late and shit. I don't even like going out. Like, honestly like that's crazy i think i think her picks would honestly do better than mine for sure i'm
Starting point is 02:26:41 like oh and 30 i was o'n 30 yesterday so dude call up doris for some advice okay what else you guys have uh we'll do a monday night preview what do you guys think sure which games first you know like i don't even have time to jets dolphins 715 and then uh broncos bangles 815 Jets Broncos 815 or Jets Dolphins 7 15 Oh it's another one of those 1230 at night watching football nights Inevitably last night I was like I'm taking Monday night off I've had a fucking enough Yeah and then I see this here's my prediction I need John wait Dobbins dolphins are favored by two and a half that total is 44 and a half Broncos
Starting point is 02:27:27 favored by seven and a half 45 44 and a half is also that total who um if i do anything in the first game it might be the over um although anthony weaver got me fired up today he was like oh i was playing video in the car and nolan was like who's that talking i was like that's your next head coach of the dolphins dude that guy's he's at the podium stunting on these hose he's at the podium you know he's he's something about playing the run with steely odd focus he he could have he could have convinced me to like like go to war or something like he was like he was like a general up there he's definitely going to be the interim head coach at some point in miami um do you say the answer is violence or something like that he well yeah the answer is violence what he meant was like
Starting point is 02:28:19 legal violence he meant setting the edge putting your face mask and somebody i like that under somebody's under somebody's chin like he had me all raring to go now in the second game my brain says bet the fucking bet the broncos but there's something about seeing the team that was supposed to run away with your division losing the night before and saying like damn maybe we can win the afc north maybe we can just survive tonight and then go trade for mr unlimited like maybe you know what i'm saying like maybe we could just find a way to win tonight so i got to to be honest i can't give you betting advice because my heart is too far in this game i'm sorry cowboy um i do want to see the bangles win because i think it'd be very amusing coming in here next week and talking to you
Starting point is 02:29:05 about the bangles facts they could be three and one bangles are cooked and still be outscored on the season because fucking carson wence just took him out back last week um i don't know what do you think know what do you what do you guys think tonight i mean i lean it's to me the dolphins are just do not bet list i i can't go anywhere i can't go anywhere near that um some fight last week though i i always ride with reeds broncos home spot at mile high monday night go bo nick's gonna get it right oh mcdaniel off a mini buy yeah yeah yeah yeah not gonna bet the dolphins Sean Payton on a Monday night you mean to tell me you think Sean
Starting point is 02:29:51 Payton's going to out coach Zach Taylor I think you might be right fuck dude this match all right so we got to show you this picture before we get out is this is the viral moment this is the viral moment of the week is obviously going to the Virginia
Starting point is 02:30:09 Cavaliers upsetting that's a great job number eight Florida State University and a close a LACC classic for the century double over time. I'm not going to lie. I was in my seat in about three minutes to go in the game
Starting point is 02:30:26 when you should probably never do this. Me and my girl, we walked down prematurely to the front to get ready to storm the field and proceeded to have to stay in 40 more minutes. Yeah, dude. So you walked down there in regulation? Worst seat. Two minutes. No, I got a worse seat from this game, dude.
Starting point is 02:30:49 Two minutes, two minutes and 30 seconds exactly still left in the game. And then they go on to tie it up and we're all just standing there. And then it goes overtime. Then the first, we both score. And then we end up winning. So the background of this game is in 1995, you know, our Virginia Cavaliers stopped work done on the goal line. Anthony Poindexter was in on the play. and beat the what number three ranked or number one ranked I don't know what they were in 95
Starting point is 02:31:20 um Florida state's half-ass semi-holes um and and at that point like Florida state was the bobby Bowden Florida state semi-holes and so everybody's all you know they're they're like I wanted to go to Florida State at that like when I was in in like a young high school kid but I thought they were too good I was like I'll never make the team Right? So like that's how good Florida State was back when I was a lad. And then 10 years later, they come into town again, rank like number two or number three, and we beat him in 05. And we're unranked, rush the field there. That badgum 18. That daggum 18. His name is Marcus Higgins. That's a bad motherfucker. Anyways, we beat them. Ernie Sims on the sideline telling all our players
Starting point is 02:32:07 that are here for a visit, y'all are idiots. You should have come down to Tallahasse. We're about to smack these fools. and we smack them. So anyways, now we're 30-year anniversary in 1995. This turned into a big deal. I think the Beville Conway might be Virginia's uniform from this game. They throw it back to the old Patrick Kearnies, the old Mike Grows, the old Anthony Poindexters. They look fantastic.
Starting point is 02:32:30 Congrats to Coach Tony Elliott and the Virginia team for Outlasting Florida State. That was a wild game. It just kept going. And I was almost in your shoes except Makin and I, who watched the game together decided to wait until like right at the end and we got down there so we were down there for like three minutes
Starting point is 02:32:49 we're a seat getting cussed out by a Florida state I think a mom of like a player or something because we were down in the Florida State section and I was being conscientious I was like squatting down you know standing over trying not to try not to like block the view
Starting point is 02:33:06 I guess making it stood up for a second and I hear behind me some like middle age woman and being like, you fucks, you fucks, you fuckers, you fuckers, you're not supposed to be down here. Sit the fuck down, this whole thing. And so, Macon and I were getting ready to rush the field. And as soon as the, you know, it was intercepting the end zone or whatever it was, I looked back at her to be like, have a nice flight. I had to say something slick. And I looked down and I've lost Macon.
Starting point is 02:33:39 And I'm like, because Macon was the one who had to convince. me like to have the fortitude to rush the field i've never done it before i was like i'm definitely getting arrested like but it is so easy dude it is so fucking easy like i was like do i have to ask the guy at the bottom for like permission no they just they get out of the way and then we find we find you on the field bro funniest thing is that video i'm literally asking like saying to moriah i was like i wonder if crick at this video look at this video i wonder if chris is down here and i turned and she goes he's right there and we're like i'm like holy shit this was incredible dude you guys are right here we just found each other that was a great green light pod moment dude and we were
Starting point is 02:34:21 down on the field just like and and um that poor guy wore a seat the guy for florida state that that got like you got moose yeah dude i hope he's okay i hope he's okay i hope he's okay i hope he's okay i listen my stance on fucking rush in the field it's it's one of the best things in the world. They have to do it safely. Like there's there's got to be a way to do it safely. If this was another school, I would just say, hey, like give, give everybody 20 seconds and do a countdown. Like that should be the way it goes in college football and in college basketball where it's like give everybody some time to get off the field. And then there's like a fucking sounder that goes off. You can't litigate
Starting point is 02:35:01 pure excitement out of college football, which is hard. I'm glad nobody got hurt. I was down on the field. I didn't see anybody behaving poorly. There was the one guy who flipped. the quarterback the bird but that guy's a fucking asshole for that i don't care if he's a virginia fan like i i like seeing a guy like that get le garrett blunted you know like i i'm a believer in street justice yeah you know i kind of like to run into a couple of the people in my dms out on a fucking in a field situation you know what i'm saying yeah um with assault yeah this video was on the opposite end zone uh those keen eye watchers see if you can see who is probably the third person on the field from this end zone and then there's another guy you'll notice a couple
Starting point is 02:35:42 a couple pans later so here's a play interception go crazy from the right side here you're making that's making he laken like a bad out of hell am i here you're you're coming up so we're gonna we're gonna pan back to the left i was a little drunk pan back to the left and Then we're going to cut back here to the right. Keep an eye for the green shorts. Green shorts, baby. Green shorts. Green shorts.
Starting point is 02:36:16 Huge guy in green shorts. Well, those kids have been like, holy shit, that's Chris Long. It was some of that, dude. It turned into like a, what the fuck? You know, I literally have on video, one of the things we're all talking. And it starts being, like, parents, like, looking and being, like, stopping in, like, hell shop.
Starting point is 02:36:35 Like, oh, my God, like, that's Chris Long. Like, go asking for a picture. Like I watched one parent be like, go. And she, and he, the kid was like, he was like, no, like, no. And the mom was like, go ask him for a picture. But it was cool because like I work with the D-line every once in a while, like just a couple times this summer. And like, rush in the field like I saw a couple of them.
Starting point is 02:36:55 And I'm like, this is fucking awesome. And you just want to take him and be like, hey, man, like Billy Madison, stay in school as long as you can. I wanted to be like, remember tonight. I was, and, you know, like, if you start why, hey, I mean it. fucking remember tonight. It's going to be the best night of your life. Not that the rest of your life sucks.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Yeah. But this is the pinnacle, bro. Like, I remember when we beat Florida State. When you win a game and you think about the older guys, how excited they are. And, like, you're just like, as a guy in the team in the moment, you might be like, that old guy kind of weird. Like, yo, like, that's why I stay away for most things. You're like, you're like, why is he so excited?
Starting point is 02:37:32 Like, we just won a football game. You're not even on the football game. But the older you get and it's like when, when the. the position shift i guess like you understand it now and like i wanted like tell all those guys like like yo thank you like as an alumni thank you bro yeah like thank you made us feel like we're you know the program matters tonight exactly so man crazy how a single win could do that but it definitely did and shout out to the cavaliers yeah shout out to the whos man that was fun and then we went to dirty nellies and got dirty yeah it had a dart what a night it was awesome beau you would have you would have you were a you would
Starting point is 02:38:08 loved it, bro. I know. Oh, I would have enjoyed that. Damn. You would have loved it. I took Robert Quinn and William Hayes, dirty Nellies. They almost got me kicked out of my favorite bar. That tracks. Because William Hayes was trying to walk up to, like, the musicians mid-set and ask him if they
Starting point is 02:38:24 could play Tennessee whiskey. But, like, not like in between songs. Like, Rob and Will were like, hey, excuse me. And they're like in the middle of, you know, we got your fuck out of here. All right. So, that's it. um by week start next week is that right yes oh thank you god praise god thank you god thank you god and we will be back
Starting point is 02:38:50 well i will be back in some former fashion on uh tuesday god that's tomorrow uh breaking down the monday night football games both of them plural plural plural happy hunting tonight

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