Green Light with Chris Long - Winning Weekend Bets. Tua Injury. NFL Week 11 Recap. Kaepernick Workout.

Episode Date: November 19, 2019

Chris records the podcast early this week to save the world while Macon bails. An honest take on the movie, Joker. Rookie gambler growing pains. Finally, a weekend without losing a bet. Teasers. Tua i...njury ramification. Bears vs Rams. Patriots vs Eagles. Ravens vs Texans. Falcons vs Panthers. Redskins vs Jets. Kaepernick workout. Shit I saw. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off-limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just me today. Macon bailed. Somebody's got to bring home the bacon here. Welcome to Greenlight. It is Monday morning. It's a little bit different. I have to go to San Francisco to try to save the world this week, which I do sometimes. No, in all seriousness, we have a really good Waterboys opportunity out in San Fran,
Starting point is 00:00:47 meeting some new prospective donors. Excited about that, Waterboys is, of course, our clean water boys. Water Charity. You can check us out at waterboys.org. That is a shameless plug. These are the rules, though. I got my own pod. I can plug my own stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Unfortunately, Macon is not with us today. Just me and the bobbleheads. Macon has to sling real estate. Got to feed the family. So, Macon's out. It's just me. A couple things this weekend. Finally saw the Joker movie.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And if you're going to review, a movie like The Joker movie. I don't even know if it's Joker or The Joker. Chances are you're going to piss people off. And I'm going to go ahead and piss a lot of people off and say the movie wasn't as good as I thought it was going to be. I know that in film critique circles,
Starting point is 00:01:50 the textbook response is that I don't get the movie. I get the movie. I didn't think it was as good as I thought it was going to be. I thought Phoenix was better than the movie. Brilliantly acted. I mean, there were multiple points in the movie where my jaw dropped, and I just looked at my wife,
Starting point is 00:02:08 and I'm like, is he really doing this? I can get into a deeper dive, but I'll just say that the movie didn't do it for me, and that's okay. Whereas Heath Ledger was more of the comic book villain and played that to perfection. Phoenix played a very realistic villain in a scary way. And the movie just didn't do his performance justice.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The framing around it. So, I mean like listen, I've been waiting for that Joker on the Step scene like it was one of the most famous sequences in movie history for months now. and to see that they had paired it with a jock jam's song. I had no idea. Kind of disappointing. Again, though, big Phoenix fan.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Actually, my favorite movie he did was The Master, so I can pull my film buff card. That's my flex. Really like the Master, like the Inherent Vice. you were never really here like it was one of those movies that I know it's good but I don't know what the fuck to make of it one of the more depressing movies I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:03:37 and I know I'm forgetting one or two but the guys got a great great catalog I do want to see her I've never seen her so I guess add this to my for a few of you bad movie takes I didn't think Joker was bad I just thought was disappointing and maybe a a victim of the hype.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I just didn't think it was well-acted or coherent enough outside of Joaquin Phoenix. So, yeah, I mean, at some point this week, I'm going to try to watch the other guys. I have a long flight to San Francisco, as I mentioned. Maybe I'll watch the other guys, and I'll give you a full review later in the week when I get back here and get back down to business with Macon.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But another thing this weekend that happened for me was I won a lot of bets. It was weird. I was really close to retiring last week before Seahawks Plus Six and Seattle, San Francisco overhit. I was right on the edge. I was on the cusp.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I never would have put the bet in after what happened to me last weekend had I not put it in before the weekend. So I was married to it. It's amazing what two wins can do. This weekend didn't lose. a bet. Now I had Steelers money line on Thursday and that didn't go so well. That night didn't go well for a lot of reasons. I've dove into that and I will produce some of the worst Miles
Starting point is 00:05:06 Garrett, Mason Rudolph, etc. takes and I promise you I will pull them up on Friday. There were a number of them and they're evergreen because the suspension is ongoing. Also, won a Cowboys Bill's teaser this weekend. By the way, teasers. I feel like I discovered it's like the advent of the running QB for me in my gambling career. This is just game-changing stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I know there's a reason they call them teasers. I haven't figured that out yet because I haven't been bitten in the ass yet. But Cowboys Bill's teaser, San Francisco, New Orleans, New Orleans over, Georgia State Hoops shout out to my boy
Starting point is 00:05:57 Swimmer with that monster hoops play I don't bet hoops but when I don't always bet hoops but when I do I'm very confident in it and then of course if you bet
Starting point is 00:06:10 the Cardinals this weekend plus 10 you probably through the remote through your TV that was one of the worst beats I've seen all year and it wasn't a beat I mean it was a it was a push
Starting point is 00:06:27 but you know like 14 later and uh you know you're just watching you feel like you have that in hand if you're you know Cardinals by the way you're up 16 nothing at one point you feel like you have that bet in hand once and then you feel like you have it in hand at the end there
Starting point is 00:06:43 uh when the Niners score a touchdown to force the push with no time remaining so it was a good weekend for me not to brag Full disclosure, I've been awful this fall. But these are the growing pains that, much like a rookie has them in the NFL, a rookie gambler has them in his post-football career.
Starting point is 00:07:07 College football, though. College football this weekend was interesting, to say the least, a few storylines that came up for me. I watched the game I watched most of, was probably that Minnesota game. And by the way, Iowa has become a team that no top 10 team wants to come and play there. I mean like, I saw something where
Starting point is 00:07:35 they have just been knocking them off at a really, really good click. And PJ Fleck finally looks, I mean the act finally wears out a little bit. You know, I know we're stage diving into a crowd with players. I know we run out every time a player gets injured. I understand that college football,
Starting point is 00:08:04 I understand that college football and college football coaching, a lot of it is about creating a persona. And it's different than the NFL, where coaches have personas than the NFL, but you almost have to have it in college for recruiting. You have to differentiate yourself as a personality. But I think there's a thin line. And when you start to hurt your team,
Starting point is 00:08:24 which Fleck did as he ran out on the field prematurely when a dude wasn't even really hurt. Got a 15-yard penalty, which by the way, a lot of people at the time thought that cost them the possession. I think they were down a touchdown. I think it was the third quarter, I'm not sure. But it actually didn't cost them the possession
Starting point is 00:08:44 and nothing came of it per se because Iowa had to punt afterwards. But they could have had them backed up. You never know what happens when you back somebody up to the goal line. and a head coach is the last person you want getting a penalty. And for him to invoke Eric LeGrand after the game, he was like, well, I saw Eric Legrant get hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like, bro, just, I get it, but just the penalty. Like, maybe do that less or wait a little longer. You know, OU Baylor, I watched a lot of that because I watched the entire Baylor TCU game the week before. And I actually was on Baylor getting 10 and a half at home. I mean a top 10 team or a top 15 team getting that many points at home. It seemed like too obvious,
Starting point is 00:09:30 but OU has historically had trouble down there. So I went with Baylor, and I mean, that was a lock pretty early as they jumped out to a big lead. In fact, it was a 28 to 3 lead, and I know all about that lead, 2016, Pats. But college football is seeing a little trend here. Illinois, Michigan State, 283,
Starting point is 00:09:53 Jalen Hurts storms back of course this weekend down in Waco down 28 to 3 and I think it was just a situation where Baylor ran out of gas you know you wondered if they would run out of gas
Starting point is 00:10:07 at some point after that like triple overtime game against TCU and a rivalry and it really took them right to the end to the tank hit empty and they end up with a loss and we don't get to see Baylor force the committee's hand I really wanted to see the chaos that would ensue
Starting point is 00:10:25 if non-SEC teams start continuing to win and they actually have to make a decision here. But it seems like we're headed for the usual suspects in the college football playoff. All I want to see, though, is LSU Ohio State. That's it. That's all I want to see. Funny PJ Fleck tweet that I did see this weekend.
Starting point is 00:10:52 This is from scary Alvarez Minnesota may be number seven but PJ Fleck is still the Carmack salesman hitting on your wife after he slammed half a bottle of cough syrup on his lunch break hashtag badgers
Starting point is 00:11:10 hashtag Hawkeyes Scary Alvarez That was funny I wanted to see some PJ Fleck takes And there's always some solid gold In a name search There was of course Tua debacle, as some people might call it.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Nick Saven, Nick Saban taking the brunt of that. I don't agree there. Obviously, the background is that Tua, who was coming off an ankle injury, volley to play, or campaign to play. I don't even know if that's a right fucking word. He campaigned to play. And there's a classic player coach dynamic where at some point, between the coach, the player, and the training staff,
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, there's two schools of thought. Let the kid play until the medical staff says it's unsafe, or when it's gray, the coach has to shut it down. Because players, most of them, are not gonna pull on the reins for themselves. I mean, like, it's a player's human nature to want to go out there and play hurt. Most of them. and I know some coaches are wounded by players, you know, protecting themselves first and maybe playing up certain injuries.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You can't, you can't, you certainly can't trust every player's instinct because there are a number of guys that in my football career, collegially or in the pros, milked injuries, cashed in, that sort of thing. But some players you give a little bit more leeway, you can trust them, and Sabin trusted to I know his family had campaigned for him to play in this game and at the end of day it was an ankle that's the difference
Starting point is 00:13:00 and Urban Meyer told an interesting story for what it's worth of you if you are into Urban Meyer's stories he talked about when Tebow had a concussion ahead of a big game years back and I think they were coming off a buy and he was cleared to play but Meyer didn't feel good about it
Starting point is 00:13:22 and wanted to sit him according to Urban Tebow and his dad showed up to Myers' door angrily and we're like, listen to here, motherfucker. I don't think the Tebow's used that word, but they were after his ass and they were like, we need him to play.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So half the thing that we're not ever, we're not focused on here is that a lot of times players campaigned to play and put pressure on the coaches and especially great players when they do it. One of the things I'm most thankful. thankful for is a few times in the situations when I was I-Arred in St. Louis,
Starting point is 00:14:01 I had that two-year stretch of injuries there. Jeff Fisher protected me on one or two occasions. Now, I still came back early because they eventually caved. I should have been I art for the year off ankle surgery, but I was on their ass like White on Rice for weeks. Let me play, let me play. I'm talking about I couldn't walk during the week. You know, and I was like, the tort all take care of it,
Starting point is 00:14:22 the adrenaline will take care of it. take care of it. And at the end of day, when you've never missed a game in football, like some of these guys have, or you're not used to being injured, you don't know how it's going to feel when you get out there. So I remember running up to first class and sitting with Jeff and like actively campaigning for 30 minutes to let me play. It was a Chargers game on the road. And he just shut me down. He said, dude, no, I'm taking this out of your hands. And sometimes with players, that's the only thing you can do. But this wasn't the right situation to do that. It was an ankle injury. Players play through ankle injuries all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Bama's in a situation where they have to win big. They have to continue to make their case of why they should be in the playoff. And it's not halftime yet. So a lot of people are angry about the injury, which was a freak injury. I mean, for his hip to dislocate and to fracture it in the same play,
Starting point is 00:15:10 it's so rare in football. It's like lightning striking. And that's like lightning striking twice. I think would be the correct way to frame that. but it's unrelated to the ankle. They want to run their two-minute drill, which, by the way, as you recount all the reasons why Nick Sabin's great,
Starting point is 00:15:32 it's because he's ready for any situation, no stone is unturned. And there's really no substitute for running your two-minute in a game at this point in a season, whether you're playing in college or pros, players rep two-minute in training camp religiously, and you can do it full.
Starting point is 00:15:53 speak as this training camp, but that's too taxing at this point in the year to do that repeatedly and to get the look you want. So to do it in a game, that's a big leg up. So we wanted to keep Tua in. And by the way, Tua had asked to be in for one more series. We saw the video of that. Sabin kept him in for the two minute drill.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So you would pump him up for that in a biopic. You'd say, well, I remember the one time. This guy, Nick Sabin, he's never leaving anything to chance. Remember that time he, They practiced two-minute, up three scores against Mississippi State. But he got hurt. This is what happens. And by the way, teams like Ohio State and Clemson, when they're up big,
Starting point is 00:16:34 they generally keep their quarterback into the first half. So I'm not into the second-guessing thing. Yes, I'm pro player. Yes, Tua should be compensated. Yes, he is never going to play another snap for Alabama, and probably he's going to lose some money in the draft, and this sucks. He's one of the best kids in college football. everybody loves him
Starting point is 00:16:53 but I'm not into playing Monday morning quarterback on injuries like listen we'll get to the Houston Baltimore game in the NFL but as Deshawn Watson was in the game late down like 35 points I was saying to myself now this is dumb
Starting point is 00:17:08 this game's loss there's a fine line between having the player in too long and not and I think in this situation to his injury was just bad, bad luck. Now what does it mean?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Again, it means he's done in Alabama. He probably won't be back for a senior year. You know, he has the same injury as Bo Jackson, which ended Bo's career. But the difference is, as I talked to an NFL trainer, this weekend, there's a ton more in treatment nowadays that's available to Tua from a rehab standpoint,
Starting point is 00:17:48 the advancements and how we treat things. but mainly he's able to get surgery on time from what I understand with Beau there were some complications. So it's an analogy that we certainly should be wary of but I don't think it's going to end this cat's career. It sounds like he could be back next year and it probably is going to drop him in the second round
Starting point is 00:18:12 but there's also a better chance that he ends up in a good situation. I'm not trying to be Mr. Brightside here. I hate the fact that he lost money. I wonder what the insurance policy situation is at Alabama. There's so many good players. How many policies can you do? And that'll come out.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Maybe it's already come out. I had an insurance policy my senior year. I think it was a $100,000 insurance policy when I came back after my junior year. Hopefully that pays out okay. But again, if he drops the second round next year
Starting point is 00:18:48 and this hip heals completely and it doesn't derail his career. I don't think from a football standpoint it's the worst thing in the world if he ends up in a better situation than a Washington. And we'll talk about the team in Washington in a bit. But here's what I want to see.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I just want to see Ohio State and LSU in the championship. However you can make that happen, put them on opposite sides, and let's do this thing. Chase Young's back this week and they're going to play Penn State. let's just make that matchup happen. Don't screw it up Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I never thought I'd say this, but you're our only hope. In the NFL, you know, last night's game made a lot of headlines. I don't think this game was even about the result for anybody. It was mostly about two coaches who were under so much pressure, you felt like they could explode looking at it. So, I mean, obviously L.A. is in a situation. where their offense has imploded. Again, we talked about it this past week.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Sunday was a one-year anniversary to the 54-51 game that they beat the Chiefs in one of the craziest games I've seen in the NFL. Over 100 yards of offense, or 100 points in offense. You know, exciting plays, the whole nine yards.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And then you guys, you get a half that's nearly scoreless between the Bears and the Rams. Now, coming in this game, I thought the Bears would probably keep it pretty close. And they did. They're the team that gave the blueprint right off the bat on how to limit the Rams offense. If you remember, I think it was last year where they were rolling. And they went to Chicago on a Sunday night and really struggled. But part of that is golf doesn't play well in cold weather.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He also doesn't play well when he's pressured. And for that reason, he threw seven passes the first 40 minutes of the game. You know, you've got your big money dude. You're not using him. You have your big money running back who's still really productive when he touches the ball. And you've got to force him to rock a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Gurley had almost 100 yards. most of it out of 12 personnel, interestingly enough. But the flip side of the coin, well, the most important part when it comes to the Rams is you're trending towards starting next year, however this year ends, with what's going down in Arizona and to the north of them with those two teams,
Starting point is 00:21:36 about a year since they've been in the Super Bowl, they're going to be opening up. they're going to be open up next year's off season probably slated to be the fourth best team in the division now I'm not being overreactive that's just kind of is what it is at this point they did get some positive trending action on the right side of their line
Starting point is 00:21:59 with those young guys I'm sure McVeigh's going to figure some things out but this is a defensive football team right now with a high paid quarterback And again, defensive football teams are okay, but not when they're built like this. You have to be built intentionally to be a defensive football team. And offensively, you have to be able to control the football,
Starting point is 00:22:25 keep your quarterback clean, and he can't be a nearly $150 million man. So defense doesn't sell tickets, trying to move into that brand new shiny stadium, Keeping the attention of LA fans is like, you know, trying to keep your three-year-old interested in something. So offense is gonna do that, shiny objects,
Starting point is 00:22:53 defense not so much. And they're doing the defense thing pretty well right now. But the big story in that game was Trubisky and Nagy. And the bottom line is that Matt Nagy, has failed Trubisky this year. Now, Trubisky hasn't done a good enough job. I worry about his ability to get up off the mat here mentally, whatever happens the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You've got people labeling him a bust, and maybe rightfully so looking at his performance this year. There's a lot of expectations when you're drafted high. Again, I certainly went through it. I wasn't a quarterback. I could have, I have no idea what that's like, but it's hard when you're drafted high and things aren't going well around you
Starting point is 00:23:44 and you might start slow. But this is a regression, that's the problem. He gave us something last year and he's regressed. And so I look at the coach. I look at the coach, and I wonder if he's put him in the best position to succeed and build around him correctly. Not to compare Tribeschi to Lamar,
Starting point is 00:24:05 but in Baltimore, they have built around Lamar. Jackson to perfection. They have not done that in Chicago. And again, that is not to compare the two players, but when you burn the ships and you do that MAC trade and you're talking about winning now,
Starting point is 00:24:23 you have to build around Trabisky, you have to play their strengths. They haven't done that this year. And if he truly did get benched last night in the fourth quarter, with that intimate conversation that happened on now, national TV in prime time.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Tribusky, Nagy just killed him. Nagy just killed his confidence and buried the kid. If that's what happened, and I hate speculating, that's why I'm going to put an if. I mean, they said it was a hip.
Starting point is 00:25:00 My instincts would tell me that I don't believe that. It's worse than the option they ran last night. It is a hundred times worse. and you've got a guy here that you can't really get rid of right now. All you can do is fix him or develop him, and you set him back pretty far if what you just did is benched him in front of the entire country.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Well, I don't want to say the entire country, because the entire country is not sticking around to watch that game on a Sunday night. But you've crushed the kid. And that conversation, if that's what it was, can happen a lot quicker and you have to be a lot more cognizant of how many cameras are around because you made the kid a meme
Starting point is 00:25:49 and by the way I'm certainly here for the John Snow DeNaris Embrace before he murked her The Fredo Embrace
Starting point is 00:26:08 meme I've seen them both People are having fun with it But at the end of the day what you're seeing here is that being an NFL player although you're paid a lot of money it's a hard gig because this kid has poured his heart and soul
Starting point is 00:26:25 into this thing he's not been good enough no one can question his work ethic or commitment but he's not getting the job done and your failures are broadcasted in front of the world and you basically got demoted in front of the world and that's rough
Starting point is 00:26:44 and that's on Nagy in one, making a questionable decision there if that's the case and two, in doing it when and where he did it. I have to think a little bit more about that. Now, it could be his hip.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I know I just did the whole segment assuming it's not, but it just doesn't make sense. No one saw him fall on it. The other players on the team didn't know about it. And that certainly didn't look like a conversation that somebody was just telling somebody we're shutting you down for the night
Starting point is 00:27:21 because of your hip. It did not. So, don't piss on my leg, tell me it's rain. You ever heard that one? It's one I like to use. Baltimore, Houston. Ravens, six straight. I'm running out of Lamar takes.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Everybody's finding a new one every week. There's a thousand ways to say, I love Lamar, and we're doing it repeatedly every Monday morning. That end digging up bad takes. You know, the few people with blue check marks that said that Lamar can never be a quarterback
Starting point is 00:27:59 or didn't deserve a shot at it are getting skewered every Monday morning. I'm not doing it, I'm moving forward. I'm excited for the kid. He's very likable. I mean, this kid just does everything right. He says all the right things. A lot of respect for Deshawn Watson.
Starting point is 00:28:20 On the field in post game, the Heisman one and two rematch. And they both, I mean, Lamar started slow. Watson was hitting, Watson was hitting Hopkins repeatedly, the first few drives, moving the chains. It looked like it was going to be that game that it was billed to be for a few minutes. And then Lamar got hot, Watson got a little bit, colder and they couldn't protect. And Watson wasn't processing things quick enough.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I mean, he got sacks six times, but a lot of those were not on the offensive line. And when I looked up his snap to throw, it was pretty much average for the year, 2.8. So what that means is on some of those sacks, he had some really long shot clock outliers. So Houston, not really feeling good about the prospect of having to beat Baltimore again
Starting point is 00:29:24 if they're serious about being contenders. I think I'm going to trust my eyes here and say that I don't think they can beat them. I know that some things might go different if and when the next time you see him would be, but once Lamar got hot, that one drive he had like every white guy eligible to catch a pass in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I mean, gosh, he's got like six tight ends. They all look like blocking tight ends. He's throwing the ball to like full backs. It's remarkable. And the matchup problems they create, they get into 13 personnel. Do you get big? Do you stay in like nickel?
Starting point is 00:30:06 What do you do? Because all these guys can block and catch the football. And of course, the Greg Roman effect is huge. Again, seven time in two years that Deshawn Watson's sacks six times a game. And I thought we were past this. I do think we are for the most part.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But again, shot clock a little bit too long for him. Judon had a big game for Baltimore. I've always really liked him. He hasn't had eye-popping sack numbers, but really good football player. He had a few yesterday. And of course, you know, there's the Baltimore defense. As we mentioned, Judon,
Starting point is 00:30:47 they've been outstanding since the Peters trade. Here's who they played since they acquired Peters. In the type of trade I like now, mid-round value trade for a veteran that can make a difference. And by the way, he's made a difference. They played Wilson, Brady, and Watson. And since the trade, they've produced
Starting point is 00:31:06 the highest pressure rate and the second lowest passer rating on defense. So that's a game-changing trade. You thought maybe their defense was a weak link. It's certainly not right now. The performance yesterday, loud and clear. that puts them into the one spot on my power rankings as I look at it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 To round that out, I would say I'm gonna go, Saint's second, I'll go Niners third, Pat's fourth, and I'll go Green Bay fifth. Even though I've doubted Green Bay, they have Aaron Rogers. That's my whole motivation for putting them in the top five. They have a big showdown against San Francisco coming up.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I left Seattle out because I think they're prone to self-destruction. In their biggest games this year, even wins, they've survived, giving up defensive special teams touchdowns. You know, they're leading rusher who makes a big difference in the game for them, completes that offense, Chris Carson. He has a habit of putting the ball on the ground. So that's why right now they're outside of my game. my top five, although they're a really good football team.
Starting point is 00:32:26 They're dangerous if they put it all together. The Saints, to me, they've got two really questionable losses. One of them you can write off because of the Breeze injury. They also lost to Atlanta, which was bad, but again, it was hate week, and they rebounded nicely yesterday. I put the Niners at three bouncing around here. Niners at three because they're right. Run game has dried up a bit,
Starting point is 00:32:54 but on the other hand, Jimmy G has shown that he can win you games, two out of the last three games, he's played really well. Of course they came against the same team, so need a bigger sample size. But when you have quotes like the one McGlinchie produced yesterday, and I'll pull this up,
Starting point is 00:33:18 you feel confident in your quarterback. He basically said, where is this thing? I gotta scroll through all my winning bets that I screen shouted, as keepsakes, I put them on the fridge. Yeah, I put them on the fridge to show my wife that I'm actually being productive as a member of the family.
Starting point is 00:33:44 But McGlinchy basically said that when you look into Jimmy G's eyes, that last drive, when you need him to step up, and you see that fire, that confidence, it empowers you and you wanna run through a wall. Now, you know, everybody says, Jimmy G's our guy, that's who we're going with, We're excited about him, he played well.
Starting point is 00:34:10 But when an O-Lyman goes out on a limb and seems to unsolicited, give an endorsement, a ringing endorsement of Jimmy G's intangibles and the way he's leading this team, that's really good. That's a good sign for them. That was a big win. So that's why I have them three,
Starting point is 00:34:32 not higher because they've kind of come down to earth a little bit. I understand that Niners fans, I feel like they probably are the best team in the NFL in three decades. Put your third, bro. Now I put Baltimore first because of how they play lately.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I mean, yesterday was one of the most impressive wins I have seen in the NFL all season. The Pat's win was really impressive. And there are two losses. One of them was bad. One of them wasn't as bad. five point loss at Kansas City to lose by two touchdowns to Cleveland
Starting point is 00:35:10 is really bad even with Cleveland's recent ascension I would I would just say there's been enough distance between now and then that I feel good about putting Baltimore in the one spot and this is a team that a couple weeks ago wouldn't have been in my top five
Starting point is 00:35:27 but it's what have you done for me lately who can make a run and as you look at their schedule they have a real shot at making a run at home field advantage here, which would solidify bad matchup part two for New England. Now one team that,
Starting point is 00:35:49 by the way, if you're watching this on YouTube and not listening, excuse my house slippers, I'm pretty tired. And this is a casual show. So, excuse me for that. Captain Kirk, come back, Kurt.
Starting point is 00:36:06 that's a team in the Vikings that might be knocking on the door here when it comes to entering that top five discussion of course they have a big showdown with Seattle here soon in a couple weeks and although Kirk has kind of let you know lit the
Starting point is 00:36:28 league on fire the last seven weeks since he hit rock bottom against the Bears he's going to have to win a game like that He's going to have to go to Seattle, play well, win a game there. I think for some people, until he wins a Super Bowl, he can't shed that reputation he has. I mean, it's funny. Yesterday, I gave him some love on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And, yeah, I'm in his corner. I've been pulling for him. I've said he's going to have a really good year. So part of it wants to, part of me wants to justify that. You know, when he was bad, he was bad. I mean, in the Chicago game, he was awful. And I've said before, I think that. that when you look at somebody who,
Starting point is 00:37:13 the knock on him from other players and people around a league, is that he's a perfectionist. He tries to do everything right, and he can be a bit robotic. He processes things like in too much of an analytical way, which is a football player, there's a fine line, and I'm sure there is as a quarterback, but if you think too much, you're not really playing.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And that was the rep. So I think for him hitting rock bottom, against the Bears, not the worst thing, because I don't know if he got online, read his mentions, he obviously heard what Dealin had to say. There was the Diggs drama. He's turning around since then. I think sometimes you have to realize that you're far from perfect.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Some people already think you're a bum no matter what you do. So why do you care? Go out there and sling it, relax. You've got one of the best rosters in football. around you, although the defense hadn't played as well lately, certainly not yesterday. But they're down 20 at halftime. And teams that are down 20 at the half,
Starting point is 00:38:23 of course yesterday against Denver, are 0 in the past five years, I think it is. So they were set to be number 100. But they caught fire, defense tightened up a little bit. First half, they existed, Zero targets. Really curious. And that changes in the second half.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Five for 121. But Cousins continues to thrive moving in the pocket. He made some of his biggest plays that way yesterday. A big play that might get lost in the shuffle. It's Trey Wayne's great play on third down on the reverse. Two score game with 11 minutes ago. They get that first down where you don't get a stop there. This game's going to look a lot different.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Brandon Allen, he shined down the first. stretch. You know, I gotta say, that last drive converted like three fourth downs. He had three shots at the end zone to win it, but what a game. You know, again, the Broncos who I thought, even on the road, that line was curiously high after a Minnesota big win in Dallas. But they played them tough. You know, they got out to a big lead. And for the Broncos, it's just more of the same. They blew their fourth quarter league lead of the year. So Minnesota, same, Six and one, three point loss at Arrowhead, since that Chicago,
Starting point is 00:39:48 since that Chicago disaster is what I'll call it. They're headed into the buy, and if Kirk can go to Seattle again and dethrone the MVP in two weeks, look out. It's a really good team. And they'll go as far as Kirk will take them. You know, there's been some regression in some areas defensively for them,
Starting point is 00:40:05 but again, if Dalvin Cook's healthy and Kirk can turn the ball over, they're pretty good. And you do all this without dealing. They have a chance to win the division. Gotta beat Seattle because it's not like Green Bay other than San Francisco has a whole lot of tough games. They're a leg up right now. And it's really trending towards a showdown in December in Minnesota, Green Bay, Minnesota. That might. I mean, no might about it. It's going to decide the division, especially if Seattle loses to Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:40:42 I think very few people will think is going to happen coming out of the buy. Pat's Eagles. Pat's Eagles was an interesting game for me to watch because obviously I played for both teams. And both teams have come a long way and not in a positive way in some areas since that Super Bowl two years ago. That Super Bowl, the Pats put up,
Starting point is 00:41:11 and we'll start with the Pats before we get to, the headline, which is Wence, the Eagles, the offense, because we have to make it about somebody. By the way, Brady didn't play a great game yesterday. Set up a record for incompletions and a half for him. And the Eagles secondary hasn't been exactly the Legion of Boom. So, you know, I think the outcome and what you take away from this thing is dependent on what you think of the Patriots, I'll get to that in a minute,
Starting point is 00:41:43 but the paths have fallen pretty far offensively since that Super Bowl. I mean, I know I'm Captain obvious here, but if you really frame it this way, they put up 600 plus yards on us in that Super Bowl against a top five defense. We were a top five defense. And I know that the Eagles in some categories are top 10 this year. I don't think of them as a top 10 defense.
Starting point is 00:42:08 The defense is not as good as the group we had in 17. and the difference is that Pat's went for 600 on us two years ago and they struggled to move the ball yesterday. And Brady, you know, who's the goat? And certainly I don't think, I'm not doing the, hey, you know, he's falling off or it's over because people have been doing that
Starting point is 00:42:35 every Monday for years now. But he struggled throwing the ball outside the hashes. And actually, for the first time in his career, somebody else on his own team, had more touchdowns than him, and he played a full game. And that was Julian Edelman. Touchdown passes.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So Patriots offense, can't get the run game going, lose gronk, offensive line troubles, certainly valid, valid context for Brady not playing as well. Now,
Starting point is 00:43:10 get your pitchforks out because I'm going to say that there's plenty of valid context for Carson Wentz not playing well against. And I have it turned on the TV today, but we agreed for half the season that the Patriots defense is the best of all time, right? DVOA, right?
Starting point is 00:43:28 DVOA says that the Pats and the Niners are the two best defenses in like the history of the game. How could DVOA get it so wrong? Not to anger the analytics crowd. I don't think that's true of either team, but if you are anti-Wenst this morning and you're popping on the TV and you're saying
Starting point is 00:43:47 this is the game that I'm going to sink Carson Wentz off of. I think, I just think it's weird. He's playing the team that for weeks now, members of the media have said has a historically good defense. And Carson didn't play perfect. He had some bad throws.
Starting point is 00:44:07 He had four straight incompletions on that final drive, including one that Nellie, Nelson Aguilar, took a lot of flack for. I think that would have been a ridiculously hard catch. I think more with Nellie, it's at this point the history of the drops and the pattern of football behavior.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And by that, I mean, you know, not tracking the ball well in the Dallas game, you know, the drop in Detroit, Atlanta. And I think that, you know, Philly has turned on Nellie a little bit, the fan base. So whatever happened there, it would have been a spectacular catch
Starting point is 00:44:45 and it was a really good throw but the throws before that weren't great and 10 points is not enough you have 95 yards on one drive is one of the best drives on that Patriots defense it was the best all year is one of the best in a few years on the Patriots and the rest of the game
Starting point is 00:45:02 you kind of you go for about 150 yards but as I mentioned the context surrounding Brady earlier which included the wind if you're Tony Romo every time Brady and completed a pass it was very windy then when Carson missed it was Carson was missing.
Starting point is 00:45:20 The Eagles are without their starting linebacker. They're without both tackles. They're every down running back. And they have two stud wide receivers out. Not to mention their deep threat, which is what the Eagles have lacked all year long. And I think what we struggle from is a little bit of recency bias.
Starting point is 00:45:44 We look at this team, and it's only been two years since 17, This is not the same team. Offensively especially. The offense got slower. Everybody's been on that. Greg Kosell has talked about it in length. I see him on Thursdays when I go to Amazon
Starting point is 00:46:01 and when we talk about the Eagles, that was his main takeaway. Was that the offense is slower. Guys aren't getting as much separation. Sure, Carson could play better. No doubt about it. He was pressured on 22 of 48 passes yesterday. That's not good enough,
Starting point is 00:46:16 but I always say with Carson, if you hold on the ball too long, you're going to get pressured. So I don't know if that stat takes that into account. He needs to get rid of the ball quicker. Sure, there's a couple throws he made that were poor throws. I had people saying, well, he almost threw an interception on the last drive. Well, Brady almost threw a pick in the end zone to Rodney McLeod.
Starting point is 00:46:36 He's done that a few times this year. And Tom's the Goat. I still put him up there as one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So really good quarterbacks do that too. Wentz's his number one receiver yesterday was Jordan Matthews. And there's no disrespect to a guy I really like. But that guy was on the street two weeks ago. And you got Alshan, Deshawn out.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Again, you don't have the guy to take the top off defense, your best possession guys out. You can't just continue to force the ball to tight ends. And that at times was kind of his only option. And at the end, when things mattered, Gilmore is right there on Earths. and again, the win mattered
Starting point is 00:47:21 when Brady threw a bad ball it did not matter when Carson threw a bad ball. Again, playing the best defense of all time or are you not? Make up your mind because if you are
Starting point is 00:47:32 then today picking this game as to why Carson Wentz is not the answer which is ridiculous. He could be better but franchise quarterbacks don't grow on trees
Starting point is 00:47:44 didn't play a great game. Also outplayed. played Brady in Buffalo, common opponent wise. Not saying he's better for you Pat's fans who are gonna jump down my shit on this. I'm just saying that the Wentz pile on, I think is for people that wanna oversimplify things and aren't looking at the fact that this offense
Starting point is 00:48:06 has gotten a lot slower. You were down your two tackles, you're down Jordan Howard, you down your two receivers. That stuff matters. It matters for anybody else. It matters for Wentz. Now, if Wendt, goes out and plays bad the rest of the year,
Starting point is 00:48:22 have the conversation, but yesterday not playing great. Kind of a tough one to call. On the Pat's side, the red zone was bad. That again continues to be a gronk and a fullback thing, in my opinion. You lose gronk, puts a lot more pressure on everybody else, including Edelman,
Starting point is 00:48:42 which is one of his favorite targets. I mean, you've got Benjamin Watson getting buckets for him right now. and Ben is somebody I respect greatly, but he's not gronk. And again, I mentioned things have fallen off for both teams since the Super Bowl offensively.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I would go as far as saying it fell off a little bit more for the Pats. And that's the big worry for them going down the road here. The coaching, though, shine through for the Pats, the halftime adjustments. I was really worried,
Starting point is 00:49:16 especially about the adjustments the Pats' offense would have against Schwartz. You know, Jim knows Bill well. Called a really good game in the first half especially, but coming out of half, I mean, you get the screen to Burkhead right off the bat. You get the Edelman third and 11 trick play, which Romo called. By the way, I really do enjoy hearing Romo call games.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I just didn't agree with the win thing. The third and 11, he mentioned it's the only way that you get production in the red zone, the way the Pats are playing right now. and they had the exact right call. Jules was like five or six on his career for like 120 and a couple touchdowns. But again, the offense, the lack of production, I mean, what's worse yesterday?
Starting point is 00:50:07 You have the way we frame this thing, the Eagles defense has been framed, rightfully so at times, is a liability on the back end. Due to injuries, due to young players, and Brady struggles against that group, and then Wentz struggles against the boogeyman and the best defense of all time, according to some of y'all. So it's just very lopsided in what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I think the problems with the Eagles are a lot more than just Carson Wentz. I've said that all year. Offense got slow. You miss Frank Reich, you miss DiPhilippo. I don't think the group's been the same since. That was a great dynamic. And Romo, great, great, great caller of
Starting point is 00:50:52 of the game. I had somebody complaining about him on my timeline yesterday. I'm like, just trust me, he's one of the few guys telling you the right stuff as a fan. He's been great. Sproles, they I-R'd him, you know, and I wanna close the Eagles discussion out with this. This is a guy that was an absolute pleasure to play with.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't know what the future holds. I don't know if this is really it for him. He's somebody who's had a borderline Hall of Fame career because of his niche is so unique. as a returner, as a weapon in the past game, as somebody who can get you yards on the ground. He's somebody that I was always a huge fan of, admired. I used to joke with him that in college,
Starting point is 00:51:34 I was K-State all the time in NCAA football. I just put him out of wide receiver and throw go routes. People never had an answer. Used to love that team on NCAA. El Roberson, the big Mike linebacker, Darren Sprouls. And to get to play with him down the line in my career, was one of my greatest joys as, you know, as far as like, hey, I get to play with,
Starting point is 00:51:56 you know, I got to play with Tom Brady, I got to play with Aaron Donald, got to play with Gronk, Fletcher Cox, guys like that. A whole host of great teammates and people that I was excited to take the feel with, but Darren Sproul's one of the most special people that I play with
Starting point is 00:52:13 and he's one of the most humble, hardworking dudes. He would finish every run in practice, you know you hear about guys that run through the end zone, He would bust his ass in the weight room. He was always in early, there late. He was a pro, he was a lifer, and he has a ring. I know that it doesn't feel great for him
Starting point is 00:52:35 because he wasn't on the field for the Super Bowl, but he shouldn't hang his head at all about the career he had. He is truly one of the most remarkable players and people that I've had an opportunity to play with. If this is the end, I respect him for getting up off the mat after that terrible injury he had,
Starting point is 00:52:55 Super Bowl year, after having to watch it and saying, I'm gonna give it one or two more goes. He's a better man than me, and he's got a lot of willpower. He's had a wonderful career. So if this is the end, congrats on that career. Somebody who could certainly be sour about, possibly the handling of his injury or whatever. He's there on the sideline supporting his teammates yesterday,
Starting point is 00:53:19 and I can't say enough good stuff about him. Falcons. Falcons are good again. What is going on with the Falcons? Dan Quinn reshuffled the coaching staff. Evidently, he literally picked names out of a hat to coach different positions. And when you look at the Falcons on that terrible losing streak they had,
Starting point is 00:53:39 a team with so much promise and a quarterback that, you know, for how well he's played, there's not a bigger deficit this far, thus far in the league this year when it comes to the performance of a quarterback and a team than Matt Ryan and the Falcons. Since Dan Quinn got there, and of course he's
Starting point is 00:53:58 famous from his years in Seattle, defense has not been their calling card. And, you know, when he was in Seattle, that was a team that was very undisciplined, had a lot of penalties, and that played in their persona too, and they had the players to overcome it. but you wondered if the discipline would be better
Starting point is 00:54:22 in Atlanta, it hasn't. The defense has not been a strong suit of theirs his entire time there. So when you're a defensive head coach and you can't hang your hat on the defense, you think your days are numbered, right? Well, the thing about Dan Quinn is, players love him.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And I visited the Falcons before I went to the Pats, and ironically it came down to the Falcons in the Pats for me, so I'm pretty good, predictor of future successes. But had it not been for a scheme disagreement, I would have ended up in Atlanta. I really love Dan Quinn. I have a lot of respect for him.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Classy guy, the guy that gets his players to play hard, as evidence by the recent turnaround, you know, since they were down big to Seattle a couple weeks ago with Matt Schaubb at the helm, they've really crushed it. They've allowed 15 points and zero touchdowns the past 10 quarters. And since the buy,
Starting point is 00:55:21 they haven't allowed a touchdown. Four interceptions, two and O on the road against winning teams. And again, pick the names of the hats, reshuffle the coaching responsibilities, Raheim Morris to the defensive backfield, and he shares half the play calling duties. Dan Quinn said, okay, I'm not calling plays anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And they've been really good. And of course Morris was a head coach in Tampa and a really good coach. So really unconventional the way they just kind of said, hey guys, we're going to pick, we're going to draw straws here. You know, kudos to them. Kudos to the players continue to play hard. I think Dan has a shot at saving his job.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I didn't think he did before, but if they play with this competence and passion the rest of the year and he agrees to hand over the keys to somebody else from a defensive play calling standpoint, offense has never really been the problem there. I think he's got a shot. Now, onto a much more dysfunctional situation for a team that has a similar record
Starting point is 00:56:28 but feels like it's a world away, the team in Washington. How bad is it? I think it might be worse than my Knicks. I mean, I can't think of an organization that has been, betrayed the trust of such a loyal fan base for so long. I mean, they have taken them for granted.
Starting point is 00:56:54 They feel like a group that kind of goes through the motions. I'm not talking about the players, I'm talking about the front office because organizations are designed to succeed or fail. And you get what you design. And they have designed an organization that's perpetually irrelevant and dysfunctional. And Allen and Snyder,
Starting point is 00:57:18 are totally culpable. And again, I put them up there with the Knicks and some other franchises that are absolute shit shows. They're on the Mount Rushmore of shit show franchises in sports. How bad is it? Check this video out.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Now this illustrates my point. There's a lot of people in the stands there for a team that's so incompetent right now. And I know they're not excited about Haskins. He's not giving you a ton of, to be excited about. But these are loyal fans. And I, speaking of visits,
Starting point is 00:58:05 that this is the only year I was really, I really hit the market. I mentioned going to Atlanta. Obviously ended up in New England that year. Also went to Washington, two hour drive from my hometown and hop up 29 north and go up there and I visited. Gruden was the coach.
Starting point is 00:58:25 met with a number of people, but it just didn't feel like it was a very organized operation. It just felt like they were kind of like, yeah, yeah, we'd love to have you. What else do we need to do? Like, do we need to do a physical? Like, should we watch your tape? Should we like talk about this?
Starting point is 00:58:45 It was like, how's it gonna work with like me and Kerrigan and like blah blah and Preston Smith and like, yeah, we'll figure it out. You know, so you get the sense in being up there. And I was also, by the way, on my visit, I was like, well, if it's cool, guys, I'm going to cut out a little bit early
Starting point is 00:59:05 because I want to drive home. Like, I want to see my son. I hadn't seen him in a couple days. They weren't like, hey, you got to stick around and talk to this coach, this coach, that coach. It was like, in and out. And, you know, visiting other teams, it's a way different experience.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And I just, I just think that they are either intentionally or unintentionally because they're not competent, betraying the trust of one of the most loyal fan base in the league. Washington fans, they don't give up. And I don't think they will, but I think we are approaching that crossroads here. And of course you have the Haskins outbursts,
Starting point is 00:59:53 as people are calling it, well it's not outbursts, some people are calling it leadership. I'll tell you what I think in a second. Check this out. So if you're listening, that's a video of Haskins with his offensive line gathered around him at some late stage in the game and he is essentially pleading with them
Starting point is 01:00:32 and asking them how can he help them? Now on the surface, there's a few ways you can look at this and I think, first off, my sources close to the situation say that he was absolutely right, He was asking for help. He was asking for ways that he can make things easier. I mean, there were some communication issues and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I don't think he was trying to come from a place of being disrespectful. I also think that if you're somebody that's watching that video and you're like, oh, the O line, look at them, they don't even care. Because if you can't see the video, most of them are kind of blank stare. one of them, number 66, is kind of chuckling a little bit. This is the NFL. The NFL is very social. NFL has a very social dynamic,
Starting point is 01:01:29 and they're like kind of things you do and don't do. And I think his intentions are really good. But I think the very reason you don't do that on the field is that it could be misconstrued in the way that's been misconstrued. I think the perfect time to do that is after the game. I know that you're trying to win a football game. But I think what the kid's not thinking about is there's cameras everywhere. And now he's put, and it's not his fault, but what's happened here is that you've got a bunch of O-Lyman who I have no reason to think they don't care.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I've been on bad football teams. And these vets, they care a lot. But I think what the look you're getting for most of them is like, bro, what do you want us to do? Like, again, this is a situation that's very dysfunctional. We're all doing our best here. And by the way, you're not playing great. maybe we can just have this conversation off the field. Now I don't know what there's going on with him in 66.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I think 66 got beat for a sack, so he's probably feeling a little bit wounded, and maybe he's feeling like maybe this isn't the time to take him to task, especially from a rookie who's not playing great. But you can tell he's got some sort of it, he's got some stones standing up in a group of veteran O'Lyman
Starting point is 01:02:50 when shit has officially hit the fan and trying to take the reins. I would just say there's a reason you try to do that off the field. You know, now of course people are going to say everybody loves it when Tom Brady does it. No, not everybody loves it. Some people are like, yo,
Starting point is 01:03:10 stop yelling at people. And these are two totally different situations than him throwing a tantrum or slamming his iPad or the kid's trying to lead. The kid just doesn't get the fact yet that these guys are doing the very best they can. And I think the lesson you learn here is that some of these conversations,
Starting point is 01:03:29 although very hard conversations, can happen off the field. And they can happen a little bit less dramatically because it could be misconstrued. It could be misconstrued like the kid is disliked by his teammates, which I'm hearing is not the case. it could be misconstrued that the O'Lyman don't give a shit, which is not the case.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I think they're just saying, dude, help you, like, we can barely help ourselves right now. This is a shit show. Like, when you're on a bad football team like that, and I've been on dysfunctional bad football teams, you feel like the kids, you feel like a bunch of kids that are like home alone and nobody knows how to work, you know, the AC,
Starting point is 01:04:15 you know, nobody knows the code for the alarm system, the alarm's going off. I don't know if that's the right analogy, but it's like a bunch of kids that are home alone. You need like the parents to step in. The parents aren't the rookie quarterback, the parents aren't the alignment. There's only so much that players can do
Starting point is 01:04:34 to write that ship. This is a fucked up situation. And although I like Dwayne's initiative, I just think maybe you have that conversation less center stage. So, you know, there's the cap thing. Everybody knows about it. Again, got a little bit of cover from that Miles Garrett incident, but it still became a huge story Saturday, of course, because of the moving of the workout
Starting point is 01:05:06 an hour south from Flowery Branch to a high school. And the backdrop to this entire conversation, I think what's really important, no matter what you think about this, the tactical decision-making, of Cap or the NFL's PR nightmare that continues, is that Cap should be in a league. He's jumping through hoops right now that he never should have to be jumping through anyway. So to criticize him for tactics that you disagree with, that's reasonable depending on how you frame them.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Don't be ridiculous. Don't forget the context here, which is that he's plenty good to be in the NFL. He had one really bad year. It's probably not even the year. Most of you mouth breathers are thinking about, it's funny, I called somebody a mouth breather on Twitter the other day.
Starting point is 01:06:09 He's like, oh, everybody breathed through their mouth, dude. The only time I just breathe through my mouth is when I'm congested like this morning. But I don't do that as an everyday thing, like some of you. And Caps last year wasn't as bad as you think it was. I played him that year. He was competent.
Starting point is 01:06:32 He was a bottom half quarterback in the NFL on a bad team with nothing around him. 16 touchdowns, four interceptions, again, on a team that was rudderless. And the year before that, yes, he was very bad. Now, had his last year been the year before his last, I think you have a point here that, you know, the regression continued. If that, I think it was 15, if 15 had repeated itself in 16,
Starting point is 01:07:04 yeah, I mean, it's hard to get a job again, but he had the one bad year sandwiched in between essentially the Super Bowl run and 16, where he was in a bad spot. So the Super Bowl run, I know a lot of you would say, That was a defensive football team. Think about all the Hall of Famers on defense there. Yeah, they had a good defense, but look at the playoff run, look at the Green Bay game, even look at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:07:30 What were the scores of that game? Everybody knows Cap took the league by storm offensively that year and he had a lot of weapons around him. But to say that that was a defensive football team, like I've seen somebody with that take, seen a few people with that take, you're wrong. They weren't the 2000 Ravens. For whatever reason, they did not keep the points down
Starting point is 01:07:49 in the postseason. Cap kept him in a lot of games. Again, if your defense of, you know, Cap not being in a league is that the Super Bowl team was a defensive team, that's dumb as hell. If you want to bring up his really bad year, I would say, well, he rebounded in 16. If you don't like his 16 year,
Starting point is 01:08:08 you might say that he was a bottom half quarterback or even a bottom third quarterback. And to that, I would say, gee, all the bottom third quarterbacks in the league right now have jobs. Because to be a bottom third quarterback, you have to be in the NFL. He's good enough to be a backup at the very least.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I think he might even help some teams. I mean, you look at some of these quarterbacks. I'm going to look up this quote here that I pulled from scouts at the game. Scouting report from evaluators following Colin Kaepernick's workout yesterday. I apologize to whoever I screenshotted this tweet from, I'm certainly not biting you. It's not like I think anybody watches or listens to this pod.
Starting point is 01:08:53 There were 60 scripted throws, no runs, agility work, he was in good shape, as we thought he'd be, arm strength was definitely still there, and he had some real zip on the ball. But he had some accuracy issues on his deep throws, good enough to be on a roster, likely backup level. Okay, that's one guy I think she'd be in the league. He was in good shape, and he has a fastball.
Starting point is 01:09:13 The velocity was real good, accuracy and touch were inconsistent on deep balls, he was ordinary, he can still run well, essentially average overall. Good velocity, accuracy and touch were average, good showing, thought he looked like he did when he was last on the field. And when he was last on the field, these are NFL scouts and executives,
Starting point is 01:09:33 he was again, a competent starting quarterback in the NFL. And in a year like this year of all years, when you have so much turnover at quarterback, so many bad teams, this is the time that we should be talking about cap making a return. And evidently, there was enough interest from teams that were afraid possibly to poke the bear in the second collusion
Starting point is 01:09:57 just in case they didn't sign him. They didn't want them in the building, maybe because 10,000 reporters would descend upon their facilities. They pressure the league to get this a solution, which makes me believe, and some people have alluded to that being evidence that there is collusion, because if you have to go through the league
Starting point is 01:10:16 to get this done, there is some level of coordination. Now the league set up this sloppy ass workout. We all know about it by now. You know, we know about the Tuesday versus Saturday thing. We know about the short notice. We know about the waiver. We know about the media issue. But what happened is that it was like a game of chicken
Starting point is 01:10:36 and eventually Cap moved the workout because of the media and the waiver issue largely and not being able to throw to the receivers he wants to throw to. So if you're the NFL and you want to fix your image, don't you think you maybe make some concessions in a situation that you totally created? Isn't that the point that however we frame what happened this weekend, it's really irrelevant. If Kat made tactical missteps where you disagree with his tactics in moving the workout or calling out the owners,
Starting point is 01:11:09 which I'll get to in a second, don't you think this should never have happened? It'd be like cheating on your spouse. And then when you guys try to get back together like a year later, your spouse has some issues. that need to be addressed and they yell. And so it's the spouse's fault, not your fault for starting this whole big ass issue. Maybe it's not a clean analogy, but I actually think it's pretty clean.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Like, you created this whole mess. So now what you've done, and people have said it was a PR stunt by the NFL, and I would counter that by saying it's, I talked about this, the NFL has a black belt in shitty PR. That's the highest level of karate, as far as I know. There's no better belt than a black belt.
Starting point is 01:12:13 There's no like, I heard brown belt's good, but it's not black, right? Black belt is the apex of karate, and the NFL is the apex of shitty PR. So the NFL has a black belt in bad PR because you just had your best slate of games last Sunday. big matchups coming up this Sunday. They got saved by the Miles Garrett incident. That's the only reason they didn't dominate
Starting point is 01:12:39 the news cycle this weekend. But they did this disaster of a PR move. There's no way it's intentional. Unless they're actually throwing the PR thing so bad that you would have this take that it's not on purpose. And they're giving themselves cover because it's so sloppy that you're like,
Starting point is 01:13:03 there's no way they'd be doing this on purpose. I do think there's an element of PR here There's also an element of some GMs and coaches actually really want them on the team, but the ownership interest doesn't match up and they don't have the ability where the NFL is worried about this thing. Or I don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I know the cap was blackballed on a level. And here we are. And then cap, because he's spiteful, and I get that, spiteful is my middle name. I remember every slight, every perceived slight, I remember every like, it's just the way I'm wired
Starting point is 01:13:38 so I can identify with CAP not trusting the owners not trusting the NFL even moving the the drill so to speak I don't know if I'd have called out the owners but fuck they took your job
Starting point is 01:13:55 it's your kind of your prerogative I get it sometimes you want to sometimes you want to lay down the gauntlet but here's what I fear I fear that if the NFL was playing a game like everybody who's pro cap is a leging
Starting point is 01:14:14 and I think there's something to that then you also have to admit the cap gave them the game and I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm not saying I would have done anything different but he gave him the game and now I'm worried that there's enough fuel and it really doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:14:31 it really doesn't matter because they're not going to sign him they gave him he gave them the game and now they can say look this guy's such a big problem. What a distraction this would be? And it's unfortunate. I mean, it's just unfortunate
Starting point is 01:14:52 how the whole thing's gone down. It's bad for the league. And by the way, this entire thing coming out of it, I fear that Cap is not going to get signed again, which sucks. And the NFL has done nothing but piss off both sides of the argument.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Which, by the way, I'm over arguing about Cap online, whether it's to red-blooded Americans who don't want Cap to ever get a job again, or it's the people who think Caps Joe Montana. Neither are correct.
Starting point is 01:15:26 But Capp deserves a job. This argument has hit its, it's expiration or boiling point for me where I'm just like, I can't anymore. And the way we tear each other apart, even within the pro cap camp, if your take is slightly different, we just crush people.
Starting point is 01:15:47 It's become so fucking polarizing. And I think most of us just want to see, at least on the pro cap side, this guy succeed, this guy be back in the league. And I think it's okay to say, as long as you frame this thing correctly, this entire weekend never should have had to have, it never should have had to, what the fuck am I saying?
Starting point is 01:16:08 It never should have happened. The NFL caused this weekend to happen. And what's happened is that we put cap in such a situation where he lashed out or changed the venue, understandably, because we don't even have to get into the waiver. The waiver sounded like there was something baked in there that had to do with collusion. The media issue, the receivers,
Starting point is 01:16:33 just give the guy what he wants. If you're the NFL and you want to look like you're doing the right thing, just give the guy what he wants. This is where I think it's a PR stunt. This is where they knew that they would piss him off, that he would go and give them the game, and that's what he did. So the whole thing sucks.
Starting point is 01:16:51 And I'm done talking about the cap thing for at least the week. Now there's two teams I think legitimately, I know I just said that, but there's two teams I think legitimately could have an interesting cap in the immediacy. Of course, as of this morning, nobody's reached out, nobody's offered him.
Starting point is 01:17:08 The Pats, Bill's smart enough to take a look at this thing. I don't know how it play in the fan base. I know that there's a bunch of Massachusetts libs I've heard of up there. That's the rumor. There's a bunch of libs up there. But I don't think Bill would care about the backlash if it involved them winning a title.
Starting point is 01:17:32 And I think right now beating Greg Roman and the Ravens, it might not hurt to have a guy in the building that knows exactly how Greg does things and can help them prepare for Baltimore Part 2. Teams bringing guys all the time for that reason to prepare for an opponent, to give him the game on the opponent. I think also Stephen Ross in Miami,
Starting point is 01:17:53 after that Trump fundraiser thing wants to save some face, maybe he'll make a move. If I was him, it'd be a great way to bring the narrative back to all the great work he's done in communities through rise and proved that it was a bad misstep with holding the Trump fundraiser.
Starting point is 01:18:12 If he brought cap in, I think Miami's a pretty cap-friendly place, maybe. I don't know. I could be wrong. I haven't really done a study. So that's the cap thing, and I am done. I am checking out of the cap talk until further notice. So I'll probably be back Friday talking about it.
Starting point is 01:18:29 So into shit I saw. This weekend we had an old friend of mine drop a viral video that it's just teasing Pat's fans. What's up, Grunk Nation? I have a big announcement to make. I can't wait to drop it on all you. this coming Tuesday. It's going to be fun. It's going to be wild.
Starting point is 01:18:50 It's going to be a good time. Come check out my Instagram page this Tuesday, 9 a.m. Tuesday at 9 a.m. What's it going to be? Now, my theory is that it's either, well, it really can't be too many things. It's not going to be football. My man's not coming back.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I know what a lot of Pat's fans are thinking. I think he's weighing about 2.30 right now. I think he got out. a champion, a Hall of Famer, battered and bruised, but went out on his terms. You'd hate to see him come back, get hurt, that type of thing. I don't think he's interested.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I can tell you from experience. Now, I'm not saying that if somebody didn't call, I wouldn't take the call, but once you're out for a while, it can be hard to imagine yourself going back into the carnage that is the NFL. And when you had as many injuries as Gronk, I just don't see it.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I think it could be WWE. I think that pays pretty well I think it could be fuck it could be CBD could be boner pills could be doing the Frank Thomas thing testosterone ad
Starting point is 01:20:04 whatever it is it's going to be interesting check it out Tuesday morning I don't know what's going to be Nick Cage though this weekend or last week I read this he's about to star in a movie
Starting point is 01:20:17 about himself somebody tweeted this oh Elliot thank you Elliot Nicholas Cage to play Nicholas Cage in upcoming meta movie. This is brilliant. I'm a big Nicholas Cage fan. If you get a chance, go on YouTube, look up,
Starting point is 01:20:39 Nicholas Cage loses his shit compilation. I had no idea how many times he just screamed into the camera during Wicker Man. I have no idea because I've never seen the movie. He is a fucking legend. The guy was married and divorced within four days in Vegas. I think that's correct. I mean, it's like his, not that I think not being good at marriage is like cool, but it's a spectacle.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He bought himself like a 10-foot pyramid tomb in New Orleans. that I'm assuming he will be, his remains will be, I mean you're gonna have throngs of people visiting the 10-foot pyramid grave of Nicholas Cage for millennia. Is that a word, millennia? Yeah, it is. He also, oh yeah, he also bought like a dinosaur skull
Starting point is 01:21:45 in Mongolia for $270,000. that ended up being stolen. Want to buy a black market T-Rex skull? Nicholas Cage knows where. Very Nicholas Cage thing to do. Another thing he did was he bought the most haunted mansion in America in New Orleans, only to give it back to the repo, man.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Foreclosure. Most Nicholas Cage thing. I mean, like everything he does is on brand. I appreciate that about him. I wish he would join me on the show sometime. Nick, if you're listening, love to make you a friend of the program. I'm certainly not downing you for all that stuff. It's very interesting, very interesting, Nicholas.
Starting point is 01:22:39 So go check him out on YouTube, losing his shit. It's one of the best YouTube videos with the Requiem for a Dream, music serenading you over him screaming for about three and a half minutes. It's solid gold. Another update I just got was that the Tua injury, somebody texted me this, The Tua injury is a lot like the Pitta injury, if you remember the tight end for the Ravens, and that makes him susceptible to further injury,
Starting point is 01:23:06 which is not so good. I said earlier, his draft stock's probably gonna fall. We know that, but as far as the future of his playing career, the comp is not so much, Bo Jackson, it seems like the Pitta trajectory, so to speak, is more relevant, and the fact that he's prone to the same, same injury again.
Starting point is 01:23:29 That could be devastating. So you hate that for Tua. And again, it's going to be interesting to see where he falls to in the draft. So watch us again later this week. We'll be back. Another thing that's going to be dropping
Starting point is 01:23:40 over the weekend is going to be our Miles Teller Fishbowl interview. Miles is a big Philly fan. We cast the movie that's going to be, obviously, at some point, coming out about 2017 team. We talked about Philly's baseball.
Starting point is 01:23:56 we talked about Top Gun, Tom Cruise. Always great talk about Tom Cruise, very polarizing topic. But evidently he's a good guy, according to Miles. So check that interview out. Continue to listen to us on Greenlight. Macon will be back. It's a lot more fun with him here.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And yeah, like, subscribe, all that stuff. I'm going to head out to San Francisco, try to raise some money for Waterboys. I'll be back. See you next time on Greenlight. Take care.

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