Habits and Hustle - Episode 115: Darin Olien – Co-Host of Down to Earth with Zac Efron, NYT Best Selling Author, and Green Tech Entrepreneur

Episode Date: May 11, 2021

Darin Olien is the Co-Host of Down to Earth with Zac Efron, NYT Best Selling Author, and Green Tech Entrepreneur. Hunting for superfoods, discovering new powerful nuts, doing deep breathing exercises for hours at a time, and living in a yurt only scratches the surface of Darin’s life. There may not be a more dedicated person to the cross-section of personal health, longevity, green business modeling, and environmental safety. His Netflix show with Zac Efron wasn’t a fluke. He’s spent most of his life in pursuit of more natural and safer ways for people to live and consume and he’s attempting to spread and share that knowledge with as many people as possible. Every topic Jen and Darin tackled could’ve been its own episode, but if you’re interested in even the first thing about knowing the foods you eat and where they come from, how you personally impact the world around you and how to better that, how to filter and vortex your water to its absolute most positive and hydrating form, and so much more? You’re gonna want to check this one out. Youtube Link to This Episode  Darin’s Instagram Darin’s Website ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today on habits and hustle we have a very special show. We have Darren O'Lean. Did I pronounce that correctly? You can say in Norway it's O'Lean. O'Lean? But I don't pronounce it. I just found that out. Actually, it's pronounced O'Lean here.

O'Lean. Okay, I'm Canadian, so you can play when I'm like Canadian. So O'Lean, Darren O'Lean is on the podcast. And for those of you who don't know, he has a number one health podcast on Apple, according to him. That's kidding. It could be down now.

I don't know. I don't even know. I'm teasing. He had that popular Netflix series down to Earth with Zach Efron. He's the author of The New York Times bestselling book, Super Life. He launched a health app called One Two One Tribe or one 21 Tribe. Either way, it works. He's a partner in

Greenpath, he's a partner in Baruchas, and he, like I said, has that really fantastic podcast that Darren O'Lean show. And of course, he's a superfood hunter, which I'm going to ask you all about as well. So with all of that being said, Darren, welcome to the show. They are so good to have you. It's so good to have you. I feel like I need like a glass of water after all that. That's a pretty long list of things that you're doing. You started scratching the surface a little bit.

I mean, how much more can there be? There's a lot actually. Wow. I don't even know where to begin with you. I want to begin with the first thing that I wrote here because I'm fascinated by this. The superfood hunting thing because I want to know how you got the name. I do know that you did create the Shakeology Shake from Beachbody. And I know that because even though I'm not a beachbody person,

I love that shake and I've heard for years that it is the best ingredients on the planet. And some crazy guy was in the jungles finding them. And then it so happens to be you. Imagine that. Crazy. Crazy. So start with that. How. Crazy. Yep. So start with that.

How did you become this and tell me what that like? Yeah, I think, you know, you know, coming from Minnesota and my dad was an ag professor at the University of Minnesota. He taught farmers how to be better farmers from a business perspective. Yeah. And you know, listen, I have cousins that are still a couple here at Hattwaren, you know, yeah. And you know, listen, I have cousins that are still a couple here at Hattwaren, you know, people. And so just, you know, just from that area, when I got out of college, physiology, nutrition, I started looking and

studying more nutrients, what was in food, what was not in food, what was in supplements, not in it. It eventually just led me to like, what? Like why people putting that in it and this quality is not good. And so I was just, I was kind of upset and I kept seeing it. I kept seeing great marketing, great companies doing whatever they're doing on the labels and commercials or whatever. And I was just like, it doesn't match. Right.

And so that, I was like, well, if I'm going to start really playing with, because I started formulating on my own. And if I'm really going to do this, I got to meet the farmer. I mean, there's just no other way, farmer or collector or forage or whatever. And so of course, you know, the first, well, actually was an India trip and it inspired me to kind of keep going, looking at Himalayan salt and early 2000s. And then, is that the healthiest salty? It eat? It's very good. Yeah, it's 250 million years old.

As long as the quarry mining doesn't use blasting and contaminants and all of that other stuff. So you have to be very careful of what kind of materials are using to harvest these big blocks of Himalayan salt. But I'm a big fan of Himalayan salt. But, you know, I'm a big fan of unrefined salt, you know, you can certainly can use that for electrolytes and whatever else. And it's a super nutrient, for sure,

multiple nutrients. So, and then it was really, when I got in the formulation thing, it was like, okay, I gotta show up to the Amazon. I made some connections. So I had been aware of some processors that I had been in conversations with of in Peru and Lima and I was just kept probing them. I'm like, okay, cool. It sounds like your quality is good and you've sent me supply and samples, but I got to show up. I got

to see where and how and what and who. You actually showed up to all like, so how did you even like, so you just were interested in it from an early age, because of your father. Yeah. And then you kind of took it upon yourself to then travel to like all these far off places.

And like search for the most healthy super foods basically. Yeah, and then prove on some of their, not great quality, you know? healthy super foods basically. Yeah, and then prove on some of their not great quality, you know? So, Maka, Sasha and she, Maranga, Spirulina, Shazandra, you know, Chaga, you name it. It's like you just go down the list and and the funny thing, Baruchas, you know.

Right now. Right, so the irony is like, usually I'm looking for something and we're finding information and we're in the fields or we're in the jungle and we're Making tea of Chuchuassi and Unudigato and doing all these things. Have you pronounced half of these things? You do like a degree in in that the guistix Yeah, exactly that I also keep the Latin name away. It's me too confused, but usually the common name, there's several common names when you kind of travel to some of these areas. And it's funny because you get into the story and some of the folklore and kind of the ethno-botinal side of

things of how these things came about and what they mean to the culture. And so as soon as I started understanding, okay, quality is the reason I went. Right. But then the superfood side of it started becoming, hey, is this better for the people? Right. The indigenous people. Is there a better way to do this? So it's beneficial for the land and the environment. Is there a better way to process it?

So it's not harmful or not fair work environments, like all of that stuff, and it's astonishing what goes on behind the scenes. Like, I'm sure. Like, I've been in hundreds of facilities and hundreds of fields and jungles and things like that. And so people don't realize a journey that some of these things have to go on.

And any part of that journey, the quality can just not be there. that and so people don't realize a journey that some of these things have to go on and any part of that journey, the quality can just not be there. Wow, so wait. So then, okay, so then basically, because you're, okay, so in your, in your book, you talk about life forces, you have, there's five, right? But before I even like talk about that, let's talk about this thing because of Baruchas, you said it already. Yeah.

So is it Baruchas, a super food? So is a Barucha, it's a, it's a nut. Now is this nut, for example, healthier than an almond, a cashew? Is it the health, why is it the healthiest nut? And are these things readily available for people in like the U.S., Canada, North America? Yeah, good question. So, yeah, so I, Canada, North America. Yeah, good question. So, yeah, so I got this basically handed to me. I was looking at other other things in the Amazon and then the Sahadu, which I didn't know about, which is 500 million acres south of the Amazon in Brazil primarily. Wow. And so, you know, I tasted these things and the first thing about it was wow, this is like tastes like a Super peanut like so so number one. I'm always looking at these things that can medicinally Yeah, you don't expect the medicinal plants to taste good There's a lot of stringents and tannins and polyphenols that are strong right wow, but this was a nut

And so number one the taste got my attention because that's not going to be a barrier to entry. People are going to love it. So then you look it. So then how it became the super nut and why it's nutritionally more superior than any nut is because we tested it. We tested it against all the other nuts. And almost in every category, it was superior. So like, as you said, an almond, like the antioxidants that exist in this is nearly 450% more than an almond. Wow.

And you have, it's a wild food. So think of food as information, less about all of this stuff. You're getting information and that information is giving you minerals, of course, selectoralites, of course, vitamins and carbohydrates proteins and fats, but this is a wild food. And so from that perspective, complete protein, two to three times more fiber than any nut, calcium, magnesium, manganese, copper, zinc, all of this stuff, and it tastes so good.

So I'm like going, so we looked at the research and then we got these, tested them to validate, verify the research we were looking at, and then of course, then I show up. to validate, verify the research we were looking at, and then of course, then I show up. And so it was overwhelming to see that this is 500 million acres that this bottle of Zeta tree is in and produces these nuts, so it's one nut per fruit. So these things drop, they pick them up. You can't pick them early

because they don't produce the, it's technically a seed. And so it's protected from over, you know, grabbing and cultivating. There's no outside water. It's literally a wild food. We're creating an economy there that, and that stability there for the indigenous people in this land that wasn't existing. And we're also planting trees again in this area because this area and the Sahadeh, the savanna, is being destroyed faster than any landmass on the planet, way faster than the Amazon itself. Wow. So they're just knocking it over unsustainable or agriculture practices and beef production.

So, whoa, when did you find this? And where, you can't just go to whole foods and buy them and it's like in its, whole foods and bulk. It's also cure, no, you can't. No, it's not like, why they not available then like an all-mendor, I mean, after what you just said, I understand that that but why is it until you kind of brought

it to light that it's you know nobody even knows that this even exists. Because it's mechanisms that didn't exist. Wow. So if you're looking at you know the easy thing is monocrop something grow it cultivate it you go back to the same place and you just do that over and over and over and over again. Now you've created an economy and I come out of it. This is 500 million acres. People all over, the indigenous people, collection areas, only can harvest once a year. It's wild, there's fires, there's monsoons, there's stuff. So you have to organize massive amount of people. And so we couldn't just come out of the shoot going because we go to the people say collect as much as you can. But we can't tell everyone yet because we don't

know what the business is going to be. But the people that we do, we say collect as much and we'll buy it for the next 20 years. And so as we grow, we just keep expanding that into other areas. So we're number one, creating fair wages for these people that didn't have it. And we're also creating a supply that didn't have it. And we're also creating a supply that is consistent, so they always have cash, right? It's amazing. And so that creates value back on the land instead of being stripped. And so there's value. There's a lot more botanicals, 4,000 more botanicals on that on that land as well, but this one is a very sacred nitrogen fixing plant or tree And this is why we're planting trees to try to help resurrect the Sahade as well. It's amazing. So it's 25% 25% less fat

It's the best on protein high as fiber. So then where do you sell this? Yeah, so massive online, brukers.com, Amazon, and now one of the major distributors finally came to us and are helping us, gonna. It's gonna be sold everywhere, like sprouts or whole foods. Yeah, so yeah. Is this, so this could become like the next almond, let's say. Can you make like milk from it, like everything else. Everyone's milking everything.

Yes, we have a trail mix. Is that milk? Yeah, brook of milk, we actually experimented with years ago. It's quite good. We don't have that yet. But we have the trail mix, which we have the fruit from the outside of it that I shaved off and experimented with. And it's like a super gram cracker,

more fiber prebiotics. So it's got prebiotic activity, more antioxidants. We dried it, added it back to the nut. Now it's this alchemical, beautiful trail mix. And then I just, we've just finished a barook of blood. Who's we, who are you doing this with? Well, our group of friends that we got together, one ex COO beach body, Seth Tuckerman.

He came in because I traveled all over the world with him. And once he retired from beach body, it was like, that's too good to pass up. And we got Rodrigo, who's Brazilian, who was the initial person that introduced me to the knot. He's our CEO We've got Justin as the chief marketing guy who used to work at beach body and other companies too So yeah, we have a hell of a team and then we got a hell of a team in Brazil of native Brazilians that This is great and it was going away

They were everyone was shutting their doors because they, in their own country, they couldn't scale this in a way that made it cheap enough for their own people to eat these. But now we're actually selling it in Brazil and in other countries now. This is amazing. So it could be this thing that you can have now, not yet, but like how you have almond butter,

a barooka butter. So we have barooka butter. You have barooka butter. I'll send youooka butter. You have barooka butter. I'll send you some, you're gonna lose your mind. Yeah. It is the, I'm not joking, it is the best butter ever. Really? Yeah.

So like, so in like five, how long will it take for this to be synonymous with, let's say, an almond or a cashew or? Well, I'm sure your audience will help us get there. I mean, let's just say, how much does a pack of this? Let me ask you that. What's the price point? Yeah, so it's, you know, it's, we, we were very sensitive to that.

So it's like a, it's a superior nut, right? Yeah. So you're, you know, 15, 16 bucks for a bigger bag. Right. This is a smaller bag. And so you're smaller. Where's my big bag? Oh, gosh, the last.

Beautiful. I'm like, I was super prepared to bring me like a mini bag. I was going to give you like the whole everything. I hope you do. I mean, it will be the first time we'll have. Yes, because it's done. Okay, good, because this is actually what I see this. First of all, like, how is this different? I'm curious. I'm a huge fan of coconut, like eating like raw coconut. What do you think of coconut? Like, what's the value to value on that?

Coconut oil? No, coconut, like chunks of coconut, like, you know, as a snack. Well, it's fantastic. I mean, it's, you know, you... But this is not, there's no protein in it, number one. Right, it's mostly saturated. Fat. Yeah, plant-fed.

Would you eat that as a snack? I mean, I just love it, because I love it. I don't, I don't eat that, plant-fat. Would you eat that at this nap? I mean, I just love it because I love it. I don't eat that much fat in that way. I just, I don't eat avocado. Okay, what do you eat? Yeah, what do you eat? Like, what do you eat?

I have all your travels. Plants, plants, plants. Okay, so your vegan, that goes without saying, I mean, I thought that was, you know, I should have said that. After reading your book and, you know, about your podcast and the show. I mean Do you I got it? But you know that's and I also have embarrassed because I have a microwave behind you And I know I was like quick where do I put the microwave to we doesn't see it. Yeah, let's hit it on

Smash it on camera. I would I would I would love to the best use of a microwave I listen I I totally would but then after you leave I would be like crying only because I'm a working mom. I'm gonna send your toaster oven. And you may be 15% more. About the way I totally agree with you. This is like also one of those things where I'm mad at myself. I hate myself because I know how bad they are, and yet I still have one.

And I- This is a microwave intervention. Yeah, it really, it should be. Because can you, I mean, let's talk about this because it does change molecularly, in other words, your food and it's really awful. And even standing in front of the microwave is like radiation, right?

So what, so you just, well, what is like, so basically you don't believe in a microwave. So we should just all toast our food or the user oven, basically. Yeah, little toast, yeah. I mean, it's taking the molecular, it's heating from the inside out. Yes, so right. So you're, thank you for, you're slamming the molecules together, creating friction on its cellular.

It's terrible. So it's dysmorphia. It is. Then it's own cell. It within its own structure. And then you were taking that on like that's a Russian Relat. I just don't want to Play, you know, we're getting hit with all kinds of things. I think the greatest thing Which is why I do fatal conveniences all the time I dive into the research. Yeah, tell me some

I want to know so these fatal conveniences. Well, that's the first one. Well, micro-SY brought it up. My friends are for sure. And then dental floss, that glide dental floss. It's got teflon on it, which is a massive kidney destroyer and endocrine disruptor. Dental floss? Yeah.

So it's already out. So I'm not even outing glide. Dental floss, little stuff that they've already been slapped for putting in still on. So that slippery stuff. Yeah. By the way, COVID too, there's a Teflon over those masks, the normal, cheap...

Like the blue one? No, it's mask, yeah. There's a Teflon coating over that. So you're breathing in, endocrine disrupting immune suppressing chemicals. I didn't know that. So like the very thing, so that's a thing. When you peel the undis.

Yeah. When you're willing to look, I mean, you can even, you know, the solar panels, for example. Yeah. Most of the solar panels are being created in China with coal fire plants, right? And then sent here. So, so we have to look at everything in order for things change. We talked before the before the how we start recording. It's all about systems. Yeah. And if we're delusional with systems and nothing changes, right? Right. But if we open ourselves up to go, Hey, did I really want to create part of my podcast as a title of Fatal Conveniences?

Are people really going to go, but it's liberating. It's liberating because if we stop the toxic exposure of everyday, deodorant, shampoos, chemicalized modern worlds that we're in, because no one has added up all those chemicals, right? It's cumulative is what it is and this is why men's motility is In the toilet where you know and women's menstruation is infinitely coming earlier and very detrimental when menopause kicks in because we've been compromised from a endocrine disrupting chemicals all over the place from wrapping our food in plastic and you know that's petroleum.

How about tin foil? That's bad too right? Infoil is bad too. So what do you wrap your food in? Don't wrap your food. I mean like go to places that are using... Glass or cardboard. Or cardboard. Or cardboard.

I'm an advisor for this incredible company. People just need to know about it, but it's more of a business to business, but this incredible company, this is just more of inspiration, this company footprint. So they are providing alternatives to single-use plastic with plant fibers and plant dyes. And so Cargill, beyond me, Pepsi, McDonald's, Walmart, they're literally in the billions of units

providing new alternatives so that we're not putting styrofoam and plastic. This is happening and these companies are doing it. So we get overwhelmed and as a consumer, we're all using plastic. You can't get around it, but it's coming. The more pressure we stop, the things that we do, like, OK, let's take some action here. Let's not use a plastic bag when we're picking up our groceries. Let's not primarily, as our water source, use plastic bottles. For God's sates, please don't.

Right. Get a glass bottle. Let's not use a coffee mug to go coffee mug because what they don't tell you is there's a plastic liner in the middle of that cardboard. So you can't, you put it in the recycling bin, it doesn't matter. So you mean like at Starbucks or wherever?

It's a plastic liner. Inside. So when you put that in the microwave, which I've done a million times, that's actually even dangerous. It's not just paper on paper. 100% I didn't know. So that's a single-use plastic.

So there are in the top of it, too. So all these things are being changed. They are being changed. So as customers, if we stop, if we continue to stop these big companies, and there are good people in these companies wanting to do the right thing, because it's not so easy and it's not so black and white. No, we want to demonize people because it's whatever. So it's what we'd like to do. Yeah, but it's not that simple. Right. None of these things are that simple.

And we have to just kind of like, but you have power as a customer. And the more we take control over not having these toxic exposures and say, whoa, whoa, well, I still need to floss my teeth. Right. Here's an alternative. Yeah. Here's a hemp charcoal-based covering, which is actually very good for bacteria and fungus anyway, so it's actually the opposite.

Oh. Very beneficial. I use this. I think I have that one. It's a black one and the company makes it. Who's a company that makes that one? It's in this great little cardboard box. I totally know what you're talking about.

It's good. It's very good. That works. It doesn't break because I tried a few of them, like break, break, break, break. Exactly. Or they get stuck in your teeth. Yeah. It's very good. It works. It doesn't break because I tried a few of them, like break, break, break, break. Or they get stuck in your teeth. Yeah. It's awful. So the point is that we have alternatives, but we need to be aware.

Why do I need to change? Because if you're pouring tide, sorry, tide, in your laundry room, that chemicalized perfume is messing up your endocrine system, your immune system, and it's causing systemic problems. And so you're used to a smell, well, get over it, and there's a lot better essential oil infused, better products. So, I had just complete that whole story. My father suffered from that.

I was a kid, and he was one of the first people that chemical chemical sensitivity disorder and people thought he was nuts. We did. Yeah, so he would get perfumes and all that stuff. Now listen, the guy worked, you know, he was a one of the dragon keepers for the atomic bombs. So he worked on the atomic bombs and he lost his thyroid, right? So he had, yeah. And I was like, I'm linking that, going, okay, he was a dragon keeper on the Cuban Missile Crisis on an aircraft carrier, we're going on atomic bombs and he lost his thyroid.

There's probably a reason. Probably that's from the radiation. So he had immune suppression and challenges when he would get hit with things that weren't harmonious Biologically and we're playing a bunch of Russian relat with all that stuff. That's really good information actually Can you give us some other things in the kit you said? I know in your book you talk about the kitchen purging stuff Yeah, what else it would give us another couple that people would not normally think of on their own Well any rubber spatulas get rid of them. Oh, yeah, because you have your feet and you're mixing stuff get rid of them like use use wood and

Hopefully they're not staining the wood with some other gnarly. So we have to do so you know You have to do some some homework Yeah. That way. And, you know, listen, the easy ones with food is just food colorings. Yeah, that's yeah. And gatorades, I did a big one on gatorade and just how, how non-hydrative it is. It's sugar and water and it's a lot of additives. But do you, so your diet, like give me a day in the life of what you eat and drink.

Because number one, when I first saw you, I was like, damn, I cannot believe how fit you are. Like you're 50 as I had a secret. No. Okay, good, because you're 50 and you look better than like any 22 year old or 21 year old, 18 year old. Like not only you rip, but you just look healthy. So, no, you're welcome.

I want to know from morning until night, exactly what you do. I have it. Yeah, your habits, yeah, exactly. What are your habits? Are daily rituals? Well, I go to bed super early. What time do you go to bed?

28, 8, 30. That's what time are you going to bed? I do. Okay. Got up this morning at 3.30. So between 3.30 and 4.30 usually. Um, and you live in a year. Let's just, let's do.

I do. Okay. Which I want to get to. But what's a year, by the way? What do you call it? So you know the Mongolian kind of round structure. Yes. That's.

Jive heat and air. I do. It actually is a high class year, because it's my future guest house, and I will have once I rebuild my house that I lost in the last episode people saw when I was, yeah, from the fire. So I had to buck the system

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I want to get back to that. It's basically what Darren's talking about when he was filming down to Earth with Zach Efron for Netflix, his house burnt down. And then he basically had to move into a yard and then hasn't left basically. Yeah. Okay. More or less. Yeah. More or less.

Okay, so go back to us. You wake up at 3.30, 4.30 in the morning. Yeah. So first thing I do besides pet my dog, let him out. Great German Shepherd Chaga. He's very cool. Shout out Chaga. I know you're watching. Know you're listening.

You're always watching. Hey Chaga. So go to water, water, hydrogen water, filtered water, vortated water, that's a whole another. Vortated water. Fortext microclustered water. Yeah, it's a big discussion, which we'll probably take the round. Yeah, and we're just finishing up through a sacred geometry, Febinacci, and through the ability for the water to microcluster and to organize itself in a living way.

I just, we're just finalizing a new fortator that I... Are you kidding me right now? No. So what's the matter with alcohol? I thought is an alkaline water good or... It's only one part of the... It's only one part of the puzzle. So, I mean water is several different.

You have TDS, so you have everything in the water, you can test it. And even in the show we talked about TDS as it relates to the mineral content in the water, you can test it. And even in the show, we talked about TDS as it relates to the mineral content in the water. But also you have TDS in tap water that is not great. Chemicals, pesticides, herbicides. In the water. Yeah. It doesn't depend on where you're living. It goes up and down, but it's basically there. Their job is to clean the water to a degree, making sure that when you pull that tap that bacteria is not going to basically kill you right away. There's chlorine, there's fluoride, now because of agricultural practices, there's runoff,

there's things in our water that are not beneficial, which doesn't allow for cellular hydration as kind of gunk in the body. Again, more toxic exposure. So I heard by the way, I mean, not to cut you off, but there's so much, everything out of your mouth is like a whole other tangent of a conversation that we can go on. So I'm trying to stay on point, but then you say something,

and I'm like, well, wait, you know, like, like shiny ball over here, there's this thing, there's that thing. Like, I heard that some of these bottles of water, like bottle is actually worse than actually tap water. Yeah, very, very good. Depending on what kind of water it is. Absolutely, and they're sitting and they're sitting in plastic.

So again, now they're being infused with plastic and plastic, the softer plastic is, it'll take all message for people. The softer the plastic is, the more ability it is to have this endocrine disrupting mimicking compound of estrogen, that's what makes it softer. There's a chemical mimicking compound of estrogen in there, right? So that's directly neutering us as a society. So give us an example of what would be a soft plastic that we would use. Well, any of the top cheap brands of Coca-Cola and Pepsi and all that, the reason it really squeezed when you're done drinking, it looks, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Harder to the plastic, like, you know,, yeah, essentially is great. They've got some great I knew some scientists that actually worked on that water so in terms of like there's pentas great Fee G's okay a smart water's okay if you're in the airport you can go for this I just quickly just take it put up my glass bottle that I bring with and just kind of help Reorient it again shake it up and get some more activity and Does that make a difference? Yeah, if it's been in the bottle anyway? Yeah, well it makes a difference from if it scientifically does it or not it makes a difference for me. Yeah, it's like intentionally. Right. And water is by the way very

influential from emotions and intention and it's a blank hard drive. And this is great work by Dr. Gerald Pollock. Great work by the Nobel Prize-shared winner of Dr. Luke Montier. He's 86 years old, met him two years ago. The guy, the science around him, I mean, water episode is a week of a conversation. I'm just on the water.

Just water. So can you just finish what you said about the water? No, because that's interesting. Maybe you can come back and we can talk only about water. Because I know that's one of your big points in your, yeah, life forces in your book is about hydration. But what did you just say about water and emotion though? Like that's an interesting thing I've never heard of.

Yeah, so this great scientist, Dr. Imodo, he's passed away unfortunately. What he did was he would take water and literally write on the side, love, anger, fear. And then he would basically freeze that molecular structure. And so he was able to see the geometry of how the water constructed itself. And when you had hate and fear on that water, the geometry was all off. And when you had love, it was perfect geometry. Now, if people are going, whoa,

whoa, that's woo-woo. Well, I don't remember, I remember in about eighth or ninth grade, when you could put a frequency generator and hook it up on a blank piece of tin or metal and put sand on it and you hit a certain frequency and it would organize itself perfectly in geometries, different frequencies. We are a frequency. That's how this whole entire universe works, right?

So we are exchanging information all the time. And we don't hear it, we don't see all of it. And so water is like this entity that is absorbing everything. It doesn't have a point of view. So it's like a blank hard drive. Yeah. If you wanted to save something,

you would just save it. And the hard drive doesn't have a point of view about what you're saving. It just saves it. Same thing with water. So what Yamoto was showing was this like, whoa, this is highly influential based on emotion, based on intention, based on all this stuff. So that took the water world by storm. And now, I mean, the sharing of DNA when you're just in proximity of water and physical DNA and pure water next to it,

it's sharing the frequency magnetics of the DNA and sharing it with the water next to it. And you can find and it imprints the water that had nothing in it. Oh my gosh. And so this is incredible. So it's like the microbiome. We're just starting to understand

this incredible symbiosis that we have with this. Oh, we need microbes. And microbes are actually creating vitamins and minerals and simulation and enzymes and like, whoa, okay. So we have to be be that's why anti biotics, you know, not favorable to life when you take those, just basically clear cut your rainforest and then you have to build that back up and so we're having just ridiculous issues. And this comes by way of just a really bad model. The

American Medical Association was created on a bad model. It was created on a fear and a germ theory that Louis Pasteur got wrong. The great chemist of his time, Antone Bacamp, said, wait a minute, it is not that you're catching diseases. It's that every element of bacteria and virus and everything else is coming into to see if anything is advantageous for it to survive. So the bad bacteria and viruses, if you have a strong environment, it has a very unlikely opportunity to survive. So it leaves. Because right now now we have 10 to the 31 viruses on us right now. Right right right that means 10 with 31 zeros after That is how we live and so this is the exciting aspect of microbes and viruses and and the empowerment here is what you do

Yeah, create a is what you do creates an invitation for them or it invites them out because you've created your tape. Keep them out. Well, they're coming in and out. They're assessing. If I came to a new land, my ancestors as Vikings, and I come here and like, whoa, we're going to die here. I'm out.

Or it's like, wow, there's vegetation, there's fish, there's everything like I'm hanging out. You know, it's the same kind of thing. So we are responsible for our terrain. Yeah, no, I think that's very true. Then what do people do with what the water situation? Because you don't believe in obviously plastic, I mean, water bottles, if they have to pick one water for the average Joe who doesn't have access and they're running and going and because a lot of this stuff takes a lot of time to research and like the knowledge base has to be there

and when people are like running around, like what is one type of, if they have to drink water, what would you say the best kind would be well there's I would answer that two ways number one it's not expensive to get a reverse osmosis yeah so that's good you like to reverse or distillation you could get those for a couple hundred bucks and now you just saved yourself from buying water for the rest of your right the reverse osmos Right, so AquaTru has a great one. You just pour it in there, you take it with you,

you can take it with you. I'm gonna write that down. They're great. And if anyone wants to have an affiliate link on there that they give 150 bucks off, I don't even know how to do that. Okay, well I'm gonna add that, I'm gonna put that in my notes, for sure. So that clears the water, right?

So you've cleared it of the junk, it gets rid of everything. And so now you have this water that does need the electrolytes. So don't drink it, don't drink distillation or reverse osmosis on its own because the body is getting, the water is a gradient that needs it.

So you can Himalayan salt, unrefined salt, add a pinch to each glass or a half a teaspoon per gallon. That's about the right amount of electrolytes. And that's the type of electrolytes that are small enough to create flow within the cell. It's all about cellular hydration. Yeah. So that right there, that step changed someone's life.

Now they can drink as much as they want. And then another step is they could activate that water. And that's what you're doing. Was it called vortexing? Or yeah. And what's that going to be done? Very soon. So it's a little, it's got like this little, yeah, little leaf like paddle.

Yeah. Ona is all sacred geometry and it spins at a certain rate and it creates like a little tornado and all that's pulling in more oxygen and changing the structure of the water and you can feel it on your tongue. Really? Yeah, absolutely. And so that's where activating water, water needs to move. Soon as water stops, it's going to breed.

It's going to deaden. It's not going to have the energy. It's going to lose the hydrogen and oxygen. And then, you know, sit, sit, look at a stagnant pond and you little see the algae algae and everything forming right there. Yeah, what happens? So water of vortex in nature. It's true, I think I want to say.

So you're just recreating that. You're looking at nature and recreating that. And that's the kind of life we're in. So you can activate water in that way. Add the Himalayan crystal salt, get a glass bottle. You can even have this great company blue bottle love. They have these great blue bottles, so it's a great frequency, that color, infusing in the water from the light is really good frequency for water. I'm taking all these notes, blue bottle, love. And that it has

like things of gratitude etched into it or love whatever you want and you can carry around a smaller one or a leader bottle So easy ways you take your you just solve your water issue you put it in your glass bottle You're taking it with you you're you're the intention of that bottle is infusing your water You've maybe vortexed it now you've just like in you know created this live We've maybe vortexed it. Now you've just like created this live element that is so powerful detoxification creates energy. People don't realize that when the water comes up to your cell it actually creates what's called an exclusion zone and it pushes the protons and electrons away from each other when it comes up against the cell wall and it literally like a battery creates energy.

Wow. So it's it's anyway that's it. Anyways, like nine hours later. Oh yeah, anyway. Yeah. No big. Okay, so then finish. So then I drink water. We're at 4.30 a.m. So how much water do you drink? I've lived there. I've stood up 4.30. Yeah, so we're still up 4.30. It'll be a nine and a half hour podcast and we're going to get at like six, you know,

we'll be at like six o'clock in the morning. Oh, yeah, and then we'll do the morning routine. So yeah. So then, so I drink a liter of water. In the morning, okay. How about putting lemon in your water, I don't have. Lemon is great, it's a great way to structure the water. That's a nice hack and mineralize.

Okay. It's easily easy to do that. You can even put cucumber in, you can, all kinds of things. Okay. It's a great natural way to, in live in your water and structure it. Okay, good, because I'm asking you, lemon, do you know what that is when you put it with that machine? Do you think that's good?

Yeah, just do it fresh. So as soon as you do that, put it in your water and dry it. Okay, once I keep it in my fridge for a few days, like I do like three or four lemons, and then so it's very do like half an hour. Try to do fresh. Okay. Okay, okay, and I understand now why.

Okay, go on. Yeah, so then drink the water, I do a little stretching, and then I go right to like a meditation and I usually start with some breath, some nose breathing and some... How long do you do the meditation? Can be anywhere from 20 to 30 minutes, you know? Just you sit there for 20,

you can do that for that long, okay? Is this the same breathing that you were telling me that you... So like, by the way, for those who don't have don't see what he looks like, if you haven't watched the Netflix documentary or the documentary series or see his podcast, he looks identical to their Hamilton. It's like their brothers.

And then I told him that and he's like, oh yeah, we actually work out together all the time. And so if that's when I say, like do you guys do the same kind of breathing technique for the XBT training? Is that what you do? Yeah, we've done a lot of breathing over the years. I'm sure.

Hours and hours, and we've like, CR relatives, it's pretty intense. It's great. So you're not talking, you're talking about breath work, right? Yeah. So is that what you're doing in the morning for 30 minutes, or are you doing the minute, or are you doing the...

No, I just do a few rounds of like some breathing stuff, usually some nose breath, do some light breath holds, because that's a whole other great activation of challenging your CO2 tolerance and oxygen. Do you do the Wim- I also had a Wim-W off on this, not this, on this podcast. That Wim's the best. So, yeah. He's been out to, you know.

Like, well, of course. I mean, of course. Yeah, he's the bus. And he was like, you know, do you do his method then too? Yeah, I mean, yeah. You do any method. Yeah, well, I mean, there's all kinds

of different things that you can do. I, you know, I did Hello Tropic breathing in Kundalini, yoga when I first got to LA. I'm not sure. And that's some intense breath stuff. Wim just took it and he brought this incredible, you know, aspect and structure around breath. And it's so grateful for that.

And then we just took it and we really always breathe after workouts because the recovery is so incredibly amazing. You oxygenate the tissues again, oxygen grabs the lactic acid and gets it out. So whenever we're done working out, we just go right into mostly whim off stuff. But then of course breathing, there's a lot of stuff around nose breathing

that we should go in a Patrick McEwan amazing guy, the oxygen advantage. You see a kick ass guest. Really? He's the best from Ireland and his accents the best. Patrick McEwan's done a lot of research for 20 years saying everyone we should not ever breathe through your mouth. You got to breathe through your nose and there's an incredible read the book. I'm going to because you know what I I've been to a lot of these different retreats about and even with when I was with layered at his place doing his expt thing and there are people who can really do this breath-working properly I guess. I don't know why it doesn't work. Like

people go to a whole new, like you said, you see your ancestors relative, I'm sitting there looking at what everyone's having this out of body experience. And I'm like just saying, like, nothing happens. You already master. Maybe I am, that's exactly what it was. That's what I was hoping you would say. That's exactly what it was.

No, it doesn't work, I don't know why. Am I doing it wrong? Maybe it works it was. No, it doesn't work. I don't know why. Am I doing it wrong? Well, maybe it works just in the way that it works for you. I mean, that's the thing. He's like, it's, you know, there doesn't have to be a thing. It's still physiologically helping you, right? But I want to see a nanncestor.

I want to see a dead relative. Well, listen, we, you know, we did hours of breath before. Like, we're not talking a few rounds of breathing. We did it for hours. And then you're just like loopy town. Right, that's some people are like, and they like, it's unbelievable what happens. Yeah, well, there's no place to get to.

Okay, this guy I'm gonna read this book, but I'm gonna go on to the day. So then we're about it, so breathing, I'm about it. We're at to. Okay, this guy I'm going to read this book, but I'm going to read it. So, breathing, I'm meditating. Yeah, 40, 40, 45. Breathing, I'm meditating, and then I go into a stream of consciousness writing. That's really that place where I'm allowing the subconscious to come out and let whatever needs to come out. That will kind of, who knows,

I could have had a dream and that kind of exercises the dream and allows meaning to come out or it could be just inspiration. I feel something, I feel something could be about a business that I don't, I can't quite put my finger on and I let that come out. And usually it really sets me to see my life and all of my projects from this perspective And then as I'm kind of winding down naturally for me

What happens is there's a natural to-do list that concerts coming okay cool I'm here and now let's doing this and I get like just inspiration from kind of doing this and then I get like just inspiration from kind of beyond, right, beyond the monkey mind. But eventually the mind comes in to organize everything. Wow. You know, so that's kind of that. I take my dog for a run around the property, which is always great. And then I usually do a workout at that time. So when, so you have an intermittent fasting kind of person? Yeah, I mean, it's funny that that term is the term now, right? So, I started doing that.

I fasted once a week, like 36 hour fast, once a week, maybe 20 years ago, and then I kind of started eating regularly. But now, I'm like, yeah, I'm probably a 15, 16 hour person intermittent. So two meals a day. Feels right for me at this point. So. So wait, as you come home, we're gonna get to the meal then.

I thought you were gonna eat, but you didn't. You come home, dog walk, workout. Oh, so I've made a licks or though. I've made a dapteogenic and that's a whole another. So I've made, before I sit down, I've made an adapted genic and that's a whole another. So I've made, before I sit down, I've made... Where do you make this at 3.45 in the morning? After I drink my water, I make my like warm cacao, shazandra, chaga, rodeola, ghorona.

Like I make that... Where are you buying this stuff from? Grouse? I mean, where are you? Yeah, yeah. I've got people. I can actually... Where do people get this stuff from? Grouse? I mean, where are you? Yeah, yeah. I've got people. I can actually see. Where do people get this stuff from? Well, like Taro, you know, for sure.

Yeah, I know Taro, you know, for sure. So they've got a lot of great stuff. I'm talking about it for people who are listening. Where are they by? Can they online Amazon? Yeah, so Ron T. Gardens, a great master of good quality stuff. Rose Mountain Herbs has got a great bulk. They do sustainably harvesting, Z natural.

I mean, obviously I created Shakeology. I created some boosts within that that I use every day. And that's an incredible Jinxing, Rhodiola, Cordiceps, all in one. It's like a little Shakeology boost. So the cool thing is I created some of these things that I get to use every day. Absolutely. Do you drink Shakeology, bother? Oh, you do.

Okay. The vegan ones. I'm really into bowls right now. So I make a Shakeology bowl with berries and then I add like four bananas and apples and like Just a mound of burukas and burukafruit and like that's my first meal So it's literally a Flunstone size bowl of fruit is typically mine and nuts and nuts Okay, so then went so what you make the elixir with all those ingredients, that's that.

Yeah, and then that's kind of my, you drink that like, and I'm sipping that throughout my, What makes it an elixir? What's the definition of an elixir? Well, it's just a, like a shake. Yeah, it's not really a shake. It's, you know, I'm not adding, like protein to it.

Yeah, I'm not adding into it. So it's adaptogenic or it's medicinal mushrooms, it's cacao, it's things like that. So it's an herbal blend. Sounds blend. It is good. And it's always tasting like monk fruit. So it's a great way to get the sweetness in there. Is that in your book that recipe?

No. I mean, I'm always changing it. It's always changing based on my feelings and moods and where you are, where I am. Yeah. So then, so yeah, I'm drinking on that. And by the time I'm done with that, I'm ready to roll, right? So then I...

Is it like caffeine for you? Do you drink caffeine? I do. You know, I do like, I cycle it it because caffeine's got an edge to it. Coffee I don't do. But Guarana from the Amazon, Mocha, Green Teas, a favorite. So those things I do, I don't always rely on caffeine. Right. Because there's a whole stem cell conversation,

which is too big to have at this point. You keep on saying these things, it's a too big conversation. I mean, are you gonna be my only guest coming back on the show every weekend? And for the ninth time in the last, you know, the next two months is daring again, talking about.

Remember, you tease those about that one thing. Exactly, you keep on like mentioning something. How do I not go and down the rabbit hole is Darren again talking about. Remember, he teased us about that one thing. Exactly. You keep on like mentioning something. How do I not go and down the rabbit hole with all these things? I mean, look at my notes here. You'd think that I was in school, like in high school, like, you know, Professor Darren.

So, okay, so then I'm even losing to him. I thought, okay, so. Working out. Working out. What do you do for workouts? Functional stuff. I like resistant stuff. I like, do you do all weight stuff or body weight stuff?

I like just moving heavy things. Do you do cardio besides running the dog around the town? Or, I don't. Not anymore. I mean, I used to do some trough lines, bath lines and stuff like that. But now I do things that really feel better. I'll do intermittent sprints.

We'll get aggressive with very short windows of hit training and stuff. So we'll squeeze that. Who's we? Who do you work out with now? The air there. Glared in Hawaii typically in this, riding monsters.

Right. But that same crew, we got, you know, I don't know the crew. Would you tell me? Crazy guys coming in out, actors and sports guys and. The Malibu crew. Yeah. Yeah.

And musicians and. And they come to the Yurt and you guys do it at the Yurt or not those somewhere, but the people. No, I mean, I'm, I'm typically, you know, three, about three days a week, we're meeting at a buddy's house and in his double garage with all of the crazy equipment. So fun. Now you're talking my language.

Yeah, it's the best. So you're doing all sorts of stuff. The brotherhood, for sure, yeah, it's fun. Even a girl who go there, or. They're invited, but it's. Can I come and work out with you guys? Yeah, I mean, as long as our buddy Johnny's cool with he's right now So he's one of the sensitive ones got it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So because we're having a super bowl party

And he's like only the people that I see all right, so but when it loosens up Because now you're talking my language, but you can certainly come to the year I've got I've got stones that I've gathered. I want to see this year. I've got a whole stone, so I'm on 50 acres. We're in the middle of nowhere. Are you kidding? No, no, no. So I have stones and trees and all that. No, I feel like you and I bond it.

I feel like we're going to be friends. I am going to go to that year. And I am going to work out with you guys if it's the last thing I do. Because now that sounds like my cup of tea. Done. So then you work out with these fellows or whatever for how long the workout you said. I mean when we're really after we stop jab and stuff really these workouts are 30 to 45 minutes just hard and intense. Okay and then

three and then the other days that you're not doing those notes. I'm just creative. Sometimes we're doing some plios and sprints and stuff on the beach. Sometimes I'm sprinting up pills on my property. Sometimes I'm throwing around stones. Sometimes I'm making stuff up. So you're just doing a lot of activity basically. Yeah, I have to do so. Yeah, every day. Every day. Yeah. And then okay, now what time is it 7 a.m. or what time? No, no, no. So this is, you know, I've worked actually. So after I've done a lot of stuff, I'm getting into work. So then when it comes about eight, that's when we meet. Keep coming back.

You got plenty of space. Oof, not how you would have done that. You like working with people you can rely on. Like USAA, who has helped guide the military community for the past 100 years. USAA, get a quote today. Today, vitamin water zero sugar, nourish every you. Vitamin water is a registered trademark of glass O. When's your first meal then? It's about 10, on average 10, 10, 30. 10, 30.

And then what do you have for lunch? If you said you'd do that whole thing. So then I, yeah, so then I just really eat about four. If it was up to me, most times I eat about four, and that's it, That's my main meal. And what do you eat for your meal? That's a massive, pretty much all the time, a massive salad with tons of colors. Wow.

Right. So with baruchas, with kimchi, and then I make like a spirulina tahini, miso, ginger dressing that blow your mind. So the dressing itself is a superfood, right? I mean, ginger is a superfood in itself. Yeah, in spirulina. In spirulina is like mass, yeah. Yeah, so that's mixed up and that, and that's,

and then I'll have like, you know, sweet potatoes. I'm not a big fan of just potatoes too. And maybe I'll go crazy and make a little pizza. Wow. Like a vegan pizza. That's just ridiculously good or burrito that I make or I'm super suit mode right now with the colder weather. So yeah, that's kind of it.

Well, it's interesting because the vegan thing, for me, I never get enough protein when I don't, and I know you talk about the protein in your book too. But I never get enough protein with the vegan. How do you know you're not getting enough? Well, I don't feel satiated, or I feel I'm eating too much carbs, or I find to be vegan, it's very complicated to do it right.

Maybe. You know, you sat in it,. Maybe. You know, like you sat like you're so in it, like in the weeds with it, you're probably, I mean, you're so musk, like you are, you're so muscular, like I feel like in order for me to be like muscular and like toned, I need that protein, like animal protein. Maybe.

I would say that, you know, it's a diversity of food. It's a diversity of food. It's a diversity of fiber. To focus on diversity of whole foods and fiber, that will take you a lot further. Because number one, you're feeding your microbiome. And so it's not what you're eating, it's what you're able to assimilate. So from that perspective, my diversity is always and my quality is

Uncompromising. Yeah, so the quality is always there. The diversity is always there. So for me From a I've challenged a protein thing myself personally upside down in sideways. Yeah, so It's really just when you look at the macro So it's really just when you look at the macro carbohydrates proteins fast, if I just continue to eat the plants and the salads and the diversification of the soups and the nuts and the gooms and all of these things, it's funny that I get exactly the amount of, which is also peer reviewed science of 10 to 15% protein, and I get everything I need. And if I feel like I'm more hungry, I just eat more of the same thing. And then I get the balance based on all of it.

And then the work of Dr. Walter Longo and the work of T-Calling Campbell, I mean, they very clearly show in the evidence that if you go over that, especially with animal based protein, you're turning on cancer potential without a doubt. Well, when I look at the other stuff, my husband loves these impossible burgers. I mean, I shouldn't be saying this on the camera. But if you look at the ingredients in these fake or alternative meats, it's a lot of sodium and a lot of stuff that I don't find to be very healthy. I. I mean, isn't it better to have something that's pure like a hamburger? Whole food plant-based. Well, no, no. Whole food, like a whole food, like if it's source properly, grass-fed, organic, isn't that better than having a fake meat burger that's full

you know, salt and whatever the hell else they're putting in there? Well, from my perspective, no. I mean, you're dealing with grass, but all of that stuff, 99% of the people don't have access to that. Anyway. They can order it online. Yeah. For me, I would first answer it morally and ethically.

I don't, for me, I know too much that I don't need a nutrients from that. Exactly. And not to mention an inflammatory, in a immune response goes up every time you consume any meat. Yeah, because you're eating with their eating, right? So that's the whole problem. What is soil that they're having?

And you're eating, yeah, of course. So you're eating flesh of another being. Yeah. So your immune system has to go up. The inflammatory system has to react. And so you're now under a stress. And if you're, you hate me now that I told you I eat meat, that I'm a carnivore.

It's not my point. Are you not coming back on my show now? No, no. It's not, you know, that's the thing. It's not my job to convince people. Yeah, no, I don't want to convince it. I don't want to take that on. Yeah.

I'm just going to provide a different thing. It's not, you know, it's not my duty. I'm, my duty is to myself, my morals, my ethics, and where I'm going. And if people get inspired and get some information in. I'm inspired. Then cool. Great.

And if they, listen, if more people just replaced some of their meals, and there's great calculation by this program, Slady who actually she saved campaigns against using straws and single use plastic, and now she did calculations on, if all of us stopped eating or at least replaced eight meals a week. So that's basically one meal a day

plus one. That we would sequester all of the CO2 in the United States if all of the 330 million people plus would just be healthier. I'm gonna see. Excuse me. Thank you. I agree. I'm not actually a big meat eater anyway. What I like is fish.

I'm a big fish person. You know, that's, I know the problem with fish. Honestly, like that, I know that it's very toxic and all that stuff. So, I guess when I say meat, either way, I know, right?

Like it's like, I told you. I'm sold. I know, but then meat, I know, right? Like, it's like, I told you. I'm sold. I know, but then where do I do instead? Give me a protein that I can have. That's not- Everything has protein. You won't eat eggs though, either.

You won't eat, you don't need it. No cheese, no eggs. Nope. So, what is your protein? I mean, this is a great protein. I know, that is an excellent protein. It's incredible protein. Because, I mean, nuts are an amazing protein.

Beans are behind every centurion group on the planet. But they make you so bloated and gassy. Not if you prepare them correctly. And it might be an opportunity to heal whatever the gut. Because we do know the gut doctor will... Cool. Bullshewitz. Will Cole is also great.

I just talked to him this week. Oh, yeah. I think he's coming on my show soon. I think in a couple of weeks or something. He's great. Yeah. So, Dr. Will Bolshewitz and a chronologist. Yeah.

So, literally, he got doctor, right? And he's like, it's not about starving all of that stuff. It's actually more diversification. You looked at my book and he goes, shit, we're saying the same thing. No, you're right, though. I have heard that. It's a book. Because you know what happens, goes, shit, we're saying the same thing. No, you're right, though. I have heard that. It's about because you eat, you know what happens actually, too, that you eat the same food. And this has happened to me because I've been to an allergy doctor. I have a tend to say my creature of habit. I eat the same food over and over and

over again. You become allergic to it. Your body reacts very badly to it. We're not meant to. We're not meant to. We're not meant to, right? So our diversification, you know, from, we're down to 30 foods. Yeah. And our ancestors were over 300. Yeah. Right? And so, but we get into these habits. Yeah.

These bad habits. And then it's all of a sudden, like you said. And then how are they processed? How are they created? Totally. How are they grown? All of them, those, and that goes into fatal conveniences, right? So it's like, oh shit.

They're not done, right? They're not soaked before you, like of course you're gonna bloat and react to things that aren't prepared correctly. So then you go, okay, well, if I do it, if I do it, right, then I'm gonna eliminate that. But don't throw the baby out with a bathwater of those foods, you know? So then if you eat the beans, you say you soak them and how long should you, like if I get,

if I get a can of beans, overnight, just rid of the water and just soak them in water. If I take a can of garbanzo beans, I soak it in water for a night and then what and then get rid of the water and then cook them. And it'll be that, how much less of gassy is there? Well, you're getting rid of the phyto gases, the lectins. I'm gonna do that. Yeah, all that stuff. And then what your, is that's the other thing?

Meat doesn't have any fiber whatsoever. So all of the important information that we're getting from fiber in our microbes, you're not getting. So you gotta let yourself build up that micro forest again. Yeah. I think that's so good.

You starved it out, and now you've got to build it up again. My gosh, you're like a fountain. I haven't even gotten to any of my real questions. Do you believe this? I did a little bit, but not so much. I haven't even asked you yet about the Netflix series down to Earth with Zach Efron. How did you even meet Zach in the first place?

And how did you get a show and tell me about that experience? And you know, one of the most, like that show is great, but one of the craziest experience on the show like that you've seen, because that show, like you go to different places and what you can talk about it. So yeah, it was a funny, serendipitous moment. So I had this idea of super,

well, the idea was impressed upon me to do a super food hunting show for about a decade. Cause yeah, it sounds cool, right? And it's so authentic to who you are. I mean, it couldn't be more. Yeah, exactly. So, but as the years when I would sit with producers and like, oh my God, this is like, they don't get it.

And like, I'm out. I don't need to do a show. I want to do a show if it's going to enlighten and help people, right? So that's always been the genesis. So I had this idea as I got more exposed to other environmental things, more active and other stuff. I expanded the ideas and I kind of wrote it down like that's the kind of show I want to do about the environment, about foods, medicinal plants, like systems, right?

What's working, what's not working? What do we need to do? What do we got to stop doing? And so I had that. I kind of sat that to the side, busy, busy. But then from Rich Roll podcast, I had done Zach, had heard it. We'd never met. And then he had reached out, he has a mutual

friend with Rich. And so he reached out to that guy and then Rich eventually asked me, is okay, if I give Zach your number. And sure, I don't know about you, but I've met many celebrities and athletes and they just want you oftentimes, you spend time and they don't do or whatever, they're looking for, you know what I mean. 100%. So I'm exactly what you mean. Yeah. I live in L.A. Trust me, I know exactly what you mean.

Yes. Exactly. So I just kind of like cool. I don't know, but like I'm cool if he wants a chat. And so nothing didn't hear anything, not that I was sitting by my phone, and I forgot about it. And so all of a sudden, I get this text message

and he, you know, it says himself, I'm, you know, I didn't have it in my phone. So he was like, hey, this is Zach. And he wrote this really nice, sweet email, or text message. And so I said, yeah, it seems pretty nice. And so let's have a vegan dinner or lunch. I guess he's a vegan too, right? Well, I mean, I don't know where he's at now,

but he's definitely played a lot of stuff on the show. He went, he, I think he was mostly plants at the time, but then at the show, he felt guilty that we already had set up all these other time, but then at the show, he felt guilty that we already had set up all these other things to say, I don't know what he's doing right now, but we'll see. But so we ended up having this amazing cool connection and he asked me all this stuff about what I was up to and we just got to know each other. And again, he's a very sweet human and really felt like he cared about the world and the environment and nature. And really at the very end, I wasn't even planning to talk about it. And he said, what else are you doing? They have this idea of the show. And I wasn't even pitching him on it.

That's just kind of telling him. And then he ended up saying, wow, that sounds amazing. And then he calls me back after we left. And he goes, yeah, I reached out to my team. And I have a deal sitting at Netflix, but the concept, I kind of don't want to do. And I asked them, can we change it to this concept? And he said, I'll do the whole thing. Like, I'll be in the whole thing. If we're going to do this, like, I'll be in it instead of just kind

of being a couple episodes as other ideas. Exactly. Yeah. So long story short, he walked me into a show that he had and we changed the whole thing to this environmental health, wellness, kind of, you know, lens. And, uh, and, and, and, listen, I wanted to go, you know, we're going down rabbit holes. I wanted to go a lot deeper down these rabbit holes. And, and it was hard to let go. And there was a lot of, kind of, back and forth, because I didn't want it to hard to let go. And there was a lot of kind of back and forth, because I didn't want it to be a Hollywood thing. I didn't. I had my connection to Zach. So I

knew that Zach cared as much as I could tell in his heart. But I didn't know all these other people. Right. And I didn't know. And they're controlling the storyline and so it was like oh shit Is this is this good for me to do yeah, is this gonna be? Is this gonna just be water down? Yeah water down Yeah, and so ultimately it was learning and having radical honesty with the producers and the trust in the you know We're now out and we're filming and I'm like, I might quit. I don't know if I'm gonna do this. Really?

So you might have, you would have quit. Yeah. There was that moment when you're like, you know what, I'm not gonna do this. For sure, I'm like, God, I don't know. Like I, like this. Like what were the kind of ideas that they were like thinking to do that you're just not interested in?

Well, it wasn't that. It was just less of what you were doing. It was just like a very small fraction of what you're just not interested. Well, it wasn't that. It was just less of what you're doing. It was just like a very small fraction of what you're doing. Yeah, I had experts in every episode. And I talked to them already. And like, you wanna do this, you wanna do this, we're gonna talk to you, we're getting into it, we're gonna make a difference.

Yeah. And I'm talking to my colleagues at this point, like throwing my jugular out on the line Yeah, and then I'm like wow We can't really have that conversation with them because we have to do this and this and this and this we can't really dig in that deep Because of the kind of way we're gonna tell the show to tell the story I was like what right like so the bottom line is it took a lot of very open, which I'm really grateful for the team is a badass, amazing team.

So it wasn't out of integrity, the show. It was very much in the integrity of me because it wasn't like we were making stuff up and not being authentic. It was just trusting that the story and they were always like, listen, if we get another season, if we get to do this some more, then we'll bail that ratchet it up, but we're trying to get which they were right. We got people that aren't in this space, that aren't in this space. Yeah, yeah. They woke up to like, whoa, I'm entertained, I'm excited, I'm inspired, I feel like I'm traveling with you,

you guys are having fun. Yeah. Around really a lot of intense subjects. Absolutely, that is not mainstream. Right. And so that surrender, the great lesson for me, check the ego, let it go, but trust the people to put together an amazing show. And they did.

And they kicked ass. So, yeah, I hope we get a second season. And I hope we get to do it again. Because we'll Yeah, yeah, yeah keep it going where so how many episodes was that that was eight episodes? Okay Which one was your the most it for you your favorite episode that you learned the most and you thought was most impactful well, I think It's almost feels like your children are certain. Like I didn't like hanging out in like the cities that much.

London and France, I loved being in the water episode. Because it's in the in the in the in the mysterious water episodes where we we were in the miracle side of this water. Yeah, I think I know. Yeah. And then of course I fell in love with Iceland. I really did on the first episode because in our off days, I actually did some foraging.

I hooked up with this herbalist and we just went out in the country and just like God it was just so so much space different planet. How long have you gone for? Well, we were able to come back every so often for a few days. Oh you go. Yeah, but it was it was a good four months of on and off filming pretty intense. Oh, yeah, that is. Yeah. And then you come back for a few days and go back again. Yeah, and sometimes you want, you would just go right to the next one. Right, it must be exhausting also,

because you're going from, from play, like some, you're not filming all in one place, you're like going from one, like country to another, like constantly. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's exhausting. But, you know, when you're fueled by a mission. And it's also like, it's, it's, what a nice experience when you're fueled by a mission. It's also like what a nice experience.

One of like a life experience. Amazing. And you walk away and being inspired. I was inspired by people just like I think a lot of people saw. Great people from other countries doing amazing things. Absolutely. No, there's these two science women that we met in Iceland. And we...

I didn't see that episode, which one was that? Yeah, it was the first one. So if you check out the first one, so they were great because they were just totally dedicated. I had this great job and figured out different ways to sequester CO2 back into the earth. And we shared that and saw how literally they're creating rock again from CO2 that would have been lost in the atmosphere and challenged the atmosphere.

So they were able to take it. So it may be just like these smart, powerful women in Iceland, you never know. So who found these people? Did you find all the different, like who worked on like getting all the people for the episode? Yeah, it was a full crew. So I started with my idea of my experts. And your experts?

And some of them still, you know, Dr. Pes, Dr. Walter Longo, and our Sardinian episode, our longevity episode, that was, you know, amazing. I saw that one. Yeah. I was like that one. Yeah, it was good. I saw that one. I think I like that one. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, bad ass. Yeah. And so once the crew hooked in, it was pre-production.

We're like, what about this? What about this? And so obviously I was super involved with the story and what we're doing. And it was the team. The team, there was a couple people that lived in this space, one in particular, Laura, who I was so grateful

she was there because she already had studied a bunch of this stuff. And I was like, oh my God, thank you. Right, so then you have that. Like just a little confidant there and could kind of take the baton and know that. But now, you know, listen from being on the road, the whole crew is transformed.

I'm sure. I'm impacted in a big way. And so how did they, because I know Netflix never reveals their ratings or whatever, do they save you? This show did exceptionally well, okay. Like, how did it perform for Netflix? They were stoked.

Yeah. They were super stoked. And I think I don't know the last official, but at one point I heard whether it's true or not, I can't be on the record for that, but I heard that it was the 13th, at one point, the 13th highest rated show ever. Oh, okay, wow. So it was, I think the number was about 65 million people saw it. You

serious? So 65 million people saw that because it was that so bridge towns are number one show because now you know they have like number one two three whatever. Yeah yeah. How many people are watching that one? If yours is number 13 possibly. Yeah I mean yeah you know that's what they put it out in the given week now, but Yeah, we're still people internationally still saying it. That's of course I mean, it's it's evergreen people are gonna be watching it all the time Yeah, and then when did you start your podcast? Did you start it? I had started a year before the show came out It's just kind of like oh, okay, I hadn't started it, but I had started it. I hadn't launched it. Yes, okay. Yeah. So launching it was kind of like, you know, as you know, kind of being busy, and then adding in a podcast was like, God, I want to do it because I want

to have like a voice and be able to kind of go into areas that I want. But also you have so much information that you are, and you about and you're so curious and interested. It's a perfect platform for you. It makes perfect, and now that I know you, it's a perfect platform. Yeah, so it's cool. I'm glad I did it, but I was reluctant. Yeah.

It was just another thing added to my play. And so I had backed all of these episodes and like luck would have at the show was supposed to launch a year before it did. What year did you actually take a film in? 18. The end of the 18. Okay. Okay. And then, and so it got pushed. So I was building this podcast going to launch at some point. And so literally like month or so before the show popped. Like feet, no, it was a, yeah, it was a month or two. I had started the podcast and then the show came out and I woke up with like everything of mine just explode. Did everything just go crazy for you?

Yeah. Yeah. And the most important thing, there's a couple things. Businesses that are doing things correctly, that I've learned and found, and also kids, millennials that are reached out that I've said, I'm inspired, I've learned something, I don't trust certain systems, where do I go, what do I do? Yeah. I don't trust certain systems, where do I go, what do I do? And so I've been kind of cultivating, getting some interns and creating research pods for them to research for themselves. So distribute through to other people

and ways that they can understand. So we're just starting to do that as ways to kind of support trust and support action for them. And then oh my god, I've got so many questions. I mean, well, this quickly, if we can, because I know it's been God knows how to, was it like two hours I've been talking to you? I don't know, it feels like forever. I'm like, are you getting antsy in the chair? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Gonna go do some hot laughs. Okay, by the way, I should have told you,

I normally do this podcast on treadmills. And that my studio downstairs, yes. Oh, that would have been so fun. And so this is not how we normally do it. We have a whole thing where we do it on treadmills, we talk and we walk. And I don't know why because of COVID, I thought you know what? Because of, I thought, you know what,

kind of the exercise portion, maybe he would be nervous. So we'll do this kind of thing. I don't know why. So next time, by the way, you come on the podcast, we're not gonna be sitting here like a bunch of jackasses. We're gonna be on treadmills.

Cool. Okay. And then quickly, would you tell me about one, two, one tribe? Yeah. And then, you know, make it quick it quick, because I'm, you know, because we're tapped. Well, you, I mean, literally, I'm looking at the clock. I'm like, what, it's been like an hour and a half, we're gone.

Sure, I was. Do I have other things that I have to do? I don't know, do you? I don't know. I'm like, it's like a black hole over here. Uh, once, once tribe. So, yeah, incredible group, actually out of Romania. I had connected with them. One guy had started gyms and and Serena was in the yoga space and they kind of came to me and

they were like, listen, you have this incredible book, this way of communicating and we have this opportunity to put make your recipes live and accessible and get some functional training in there and then let education be the catalyst for awareness while they're moving into a program. Oh, I see, okay. And then obviously habit forming ways of using technology to support people and creating new habits

because that's one of the biggest challenges of everything. It's all about habits. We say this all the time. So your partners are in Romania, is that basically? Oh, God, yeah. Okay. So incredible group. And so our idea is to gather more experts and to continue to make this like a subscription model so people can keep kind of adding to their knowledge, adding to the inspiration, adding to their habit, forming new ways of living and using technology for the good. Oh my gosh. You have like so many things going on.

Where, I mean, where could people find more about you if they need to watch? We didn't even, I have so many questions. By the way, like again, his Darren's best selling book is called Super Life. I didn't even really speak about it. I want to ask you all about oxidization and detoxification. I'm serious. You really do have to come back on that treadmill. For sure. Or at your order. We're going to do it. Okay, so where they find you, tell us everything. Yeah, so dernolene.com's got, you know, all of the latest stuff, well, kind of the latest stuff.

I don't even think the website can keep up with all the things, but then I'm, I'm, I'm pretty, try to say pretty active on Instagram. So dernolene on Twitter and all of the other social bloody channels. Claps, yes. But yeah, that's pretty much people can find me. Well, thank you for being on the podcast. Awesome to meet you. It was awesome to meet you.

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