Habits and Hustle - Episode 147: Dr. Bruce Lipton – Internationally Recognized Leader in Bridging Science and Spirit, Stem Cell Biologist & Bestselling Author

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

Dr. Bruce Lipton is an Internationally Recognized Leader in Bridging Science and Spirit, Stem Cell Biologist & Bestselling Author. We’re often told the mind can be powerful and the way we view things can actually change the outcome of certain situations. And almost always, what does that person have to back it up? Dr. Bruce Lipton has literally studied that very phenomenon for decades. Scientifically attempting to link the capabilities of the mind and personal outlook on the outcomes of instances in our lives. He explains his research and how he sees real, tangible benefits to focusing more on personal perception, fulfillment, and conflict resolution in your own life that could go as far as securing you a job or lifestyle, or even further in helping with the complexities of modern disease and medicine. Not sure how science and spirit are inseparable for a truly healthy life? Skeptical of this kind of discussion? Give it a listen and see how you come out on the other side. Youtube Link to This Episode Dr. Lipton’s Instagram Dr. Lipton’s Website ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habens in Hustle, fresh it. Today on the podcast, we have Bruce Lipton. Bruce is a cell biologist and lecturer and an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. Bruce has been widely known as a notable, the most notable biologist for his views on epigenetics. In his book The Biology of Belief, which was a major bestseller, I think it was one of his first books, he claims that Belief's control human

biology rather than DNA in inheritance. He can be slightly controversial being sarcastic, but there is a lot of research and science that he can back up his claims with. It will be a very interesting podcast for you guys who are not familiar with Bruce's work. He is really amazing. He's done a lot of groundbreaking work in stem cell research at Stanford University. As I said, his bestselling book of biology of belief, he also wrote the Honeymoon effect and spontaneous evolution. Bruce recently, the 2009 prestigious, I don't know how to pronounce this, but Gua, Gua, peace award in honor of his scientific contribution to world harmony. Please enjoy this podcast. I really enjoyed speaking with Bruce.

We have Dr. Bruce Lipton who is actually a stem cell biologist, but you merge science with spirit. Is that an accurate way to describe what you do? Yeah, well, it sort of, it was revealed to me via the science. You know, there was no devotional, like, oh, I like the idea. And let me think about that kind of stuff. You know, it's like, that's not what happened here. That this is like, oh my God, there's a physical mechanical

connection here, which is like, ah, I'm not in here. And that was a moment of, well, I'm not in here. Where the hell am I, of course, out here. And then I use the analogy of a television in a broadcast. I say, you're looking at the Bruce TV show right here is broadcast is coming in. And then the fun part about that is that you're watching TV in a break. I say, yeah, TV is dead. It's not working anymore. And I go, is the broadcast still there? And the answer is, of course it's still there. And that was the moment of like, I can't die.

I'm not in here. That's a good way of actually describing it for because let me just speak about my, so for my audience, I want to start from the basics, right? Because your whole belief system is that we are not victims of our heredity, correct? 100%, 100%. 100%. Right. And then we basically, we are, we can control and we are in charge of kind of

what happens to us physically, right? We manifest kind of like what happens to us on the physical. So our brain basically or our mind controls our body. 100% and the fact is there are six, I think six illnesses associated with a single gene. And that is a small percent of the entire population. A simple point. One percent of illness, less than one percent of illness, is connected to genes and over 90% is connected to stress and lifestyle. So it basically says, stop looking for the genes as a problem.

It's not the problem. It's how we're living is the problem. So yeah. And I mean, like, so you're also like, I'm fascinated by your work because you've been around for, you're like a pioneer in this. You've been around for what, 30 years doing this, 40 years doing this before more, more, 50 years doing this, 40 years doing this before. Before. More. More, 50 years doing this. I'll let's say 50, 67 plus 50 is how much? That's a big deal. 67 plus 50, what are you, 120? No, I started doing this research in 67.

Oh, in 1967, okay, so, and then from you, I mean, now you have so many other people who've kind of like taken some of your work and your studies and have created like their like huge platforms from themselves. But, you know, Joe just spends on all these other people. Like you were the first before all of these people. And I find it like just your work is so fascinating to me, because you actually

are a science, this is all science back to this is not just, you know, kind of like just, kind of Lucy Goosey stuff. You have to be able to prove this. Not at all. I was a non spiritual, a spiritual science person. And when I understood the nature of how the cell worked, which is not the story that almost everybody has out here, I realized at that point, especially in quantum physics, is that, oh my goodness, the whole illusion of this material plane, all of this is a consciousness thing, you know, and I mean, that was 1927, Max Planck said in 1927 and found in quantum physics that the mind is the matrix of all matter. And what he was saying was, everything is created from consciousness. And that is the current, still the current understanding

of quantum physics, that consciousness is creating and manifesting this. And then I go, well, that's a problem because there's two sources of consciousness. And if you get them confused, and the world is upside down, and the sources are the conscious mind, and the subconscious mind, I say they have different functions. They learn in different ways,

and how they operate are very different. And we always attribute everything to the conscious thinking might go, no, 5% of the day is conscious thinking creation. And 95% of the day is a manifestation of whatever programs you were downloaded with. And therefore, you're only controlling your life about 95% comes from a processor, the subconscious mind, which is one million times more powerful

than the conscious creative mind. So I go mathematically, 5% of the day with a little tiny mind, 95% of the day with a mind of a million times more powerful. It's like your life is not coming from your consciousness, your life is coming from your program. Wow, that's so powerful. And then I guess the question to me, what the question, the first question I have for you, if 95% of what we do on a daily basis is subconscious, right? Yes. And we really have very little control consciously of what we're doing.

With your conscious mind, you have very 5% and that's again with a small processor. So where is it coming from? So how do we, if we're not aware that we're doing that, right? So it can be pretty detrimental or that's where victims come from. Oh, right. What happened to me? I go, no, you didn't, you created what happened to you. That didn't, you're not just there receiving stuff. You are participating in manifesting this reality, but 95% of the day you do not observe your own behavior and there's reasons for that.

I think we should start talking. Otherwise, we're gonna, let's start to show talk. We are start to talk we are talking no no no this is we're doing it. This is you're on you're talking about it Oh, that that's what I'm saying. I want to you your your your I don't waste any time there I go I go right into it. That's why I want you to tell me I want you to tell me I will I will tell you the secret Okay, tell me the secret. I want to secret I want to know the brain is a computer It's the most powerful computer known to humans the brain And I go what about it? I say well as a computer it also has the same Systems parallels with our silicon based computer, but this is a carbon based computer. I go so what and I say

Story the old days go to the store buy abased computer. I go, so what? And I say, story, the old days. Go to the store, buy a new computer. I say, OK, bring it home, push start. Yeah, it boots up, screen lights up. And I say, OK, do something. Write a, you know, an essay, make a drawing, do a spreadsheet. And you go, I can't do it. And I say, what do you mean?

Got brand new computer. I said, not until I put programs in the computer, can I access the computer? So there's a hard drive with programs in it. And then there's a keyboard where I put my information into the computer through the program and express it. Okay? That makes simple sense.

I go, human brain is a computer. It boots up in the last trimester pregnancy. Screens on, I say, yeah, I'm not gonna go programs. I go, okay, from the rest of that trimester for seven years, the brain is operating at a lower vibration. When I say, what the hell is that mean? That's the way, I say, it's not in a way. I say, but wires on a person said,

it's called electro and cephalygraph. I say, it's not in a way. I say, but wires on a person said it's called electro encephalograph. I'm reading brain function by vibration levels. And I go alpha and beta are conscious vibrations, but theta is just below alpha. And I say, why is that important? Because alpha is consciousness. Below consciousness is theta.

I say, well, it's not conscious. I go, no, Theta is imagination. And I go for a child for the first seven years, it is living in Theta. And I say, well, imagination, I go, what? Mixing the real world and the imaginary world as a character of Theta. I go like, oh, tea party, pour nothing into the cup, Drink the nothing. Oh, as a fabulous tea I ever had. And I go, that's theta, writing a broom, calling it a horse, that's theta.

And I go, but most people don't recognize as theta is hypnosis. That's the state of hypnosis. And I say, so why is your element? I say, okay. Why did nature put this together like this? And I go, because culture changes all the time, I can't program culture.

So I say, if a culture is complicated, I go, what do you mean I say, what are the rules to be a member of a family? You know, how do you behave? What how do you do this? I say, oh yeah, what are the rules to be a functional member of the community, the world? I go, if I give you a book of all the rules of behavior of how we have to respond, it'll be a thousand

pages of book of all the rules of, you know, like how a father talks to his own kid. It's not how a father talks to the neighbors, because it's not how the father talks to the wife, it's not how the father talks to the neighbor, it's not how the father talks to the policemen. I go, oh my, Jesus, just, my father talks I got to have now. How many levels of rules? An infant can't learn those rules fast enough by book or whatever, how, what you want to do it.

I say, so how does nature do? And I say, nature makes the first seven years of your life where you are predominantly in Theta, which is hypnosis and I go, so why? Because you observe your parents, you observe your siblings, you observe your community, you download their behavior as programs. So I go, why is that relevant? I say, well, first of all, you're not there. And I go, what does that mean? I say, who's filtering? I say, there is no filtering. You just get downloaded, whatever, how you've been experiencing. I go, why is that relevant? Because whatever you're downloading the first seven years, become the programs that you operate from. Okay. But then most important point, they didn't come from your wishes and desires

that came from observing other people. So those behaviors don't manifest what you necessarily want and if they have a glitch, you downloaded that glitch. Okay, so I go, so what? I don't need the programs because I'm gonna type on the computer. I'm gonna put my information in. Conscious mind, subconscious mind, hard drive, programs. I go, yeah, fine, here's the problem.

This is the biggest problem. And if people don't wake up to this and the world is lost and I go, yeah, fine. Here's the problem. This is the biggest problem. And if people don't wake up to this and the world is lost, and I go, what is it? And I go, only 5% of the day are you typing on the computer, putting what your wishes and desires are? Conscious mind, wishes, desires. I go, yeah, but that's 5% of the day.

I say, so 5% of the day you are going toward wishes and it's like, oh great, and I go, when you think, and this is the whole thing is here, thinking is an internal job, observing the world as an external observation. If I'm looking at the world, consider the body of vehicle just for a second with a steering wheel.

And that the conscious mind when it's got its hands on the wheels is driving you to wear wishes and desires. And I go, that one I go, when conscious mind is thinking, it's not looking out the window anymore. It's now looking inside. A thought is inside. So by saying to you, tell me what you're doing on Sunday a week from now and you go, you know, you look around, it's not written there, but I bet you in a moment you think and you go, oh yes, on Sunday, we'll do this. I go, well, when you were thinking, you weren't looking out. A thought you had to go inside. I go, what if I'm driving my vehicle and then I start thinking, I'd go to the wheel because I'm inside and I go, sub-conscious is autopilot.

I go, what does that mean? The moment you were thinking, the sub-conscious takes over whatever you're doing, walking, driving, doing your job. Anything that's been learned in your life as a habit will now manifest right out of it. You don't have to pay any attention to it at all. I go, why? Because subconscious is autopilot. I go, so why is it relevant? Okay, so here's a realistic thing that many people have experienced, but it brings a point. And I go, like, let's say you and I are in the car and we're driving and we get into a conversation.

And I go back and forth, back and forth on the conversation and everything. And then at some point I look out the windshield and I realize, oh my God, I've been driving for the last five minutes, I haven't paid attention because I was so involved with my discussion. Now comes the most important point. What was your discussion about?

I go, oh, we talked about this and this and this and this next question. And so what was on the road when you were driving? I go, I don't know, I didn't pay any attention. I was talking, my attention was over here, not out here. I go, yeah, but we drove that entire time. I didn't hit anything, kill anything. I didn't crash the car. We're right on track. I say, what was the point? And this is the point. Well, emphasize it again and necessarily. I go,

when my conscious is focused on other than looking out, then the subconscious program takes over. I go, yes, I go, so you told me about the conversation, but you didn't tell me about the driving. What was happening, how you responded to it, what was going on. I go, and the problem is this, I didn't see it. And I go, so why is it relevant? There's why it's relevant. 95% of the day you are driving this vehicle with your conscious mind and thought. Like, what does that mean? I said, well, if you're thinking 95% of the day, then the behavior that is coming out is not coming from your conscious mind. That's busy thinking.

So the behavior that you express 95% of the day is what you downloaded. So if you download a good programs fine, 95% day autopilot subconscious taking you someplace good, but most of the downloads that we got up to 60% or more of the downloads that we get from our parents and our community are self limiting, self-slaftaging, disempowering, I go, why is it relevant? Then 95% of the day, you are not even going near where you want in this life. You're going where that program is sent you.

And then you might say, but I would see if I was doing that. And I go, a story that I've not only told about 40 years, same story. And that is this, you have a friend, you know your friend's behavior, you know your friend's parent. And one day you see your friend has the same behavior as their parent. I go, so you go to your friend and you go, hey, Bill, you're just like

your dad. Back away from Bill, I know exactly what Bill's gonna say. Bill's the first thing Bill's gonna say, how's the first thing Bill's gonna say How can you compare me to my dad? I'm nothing like my dad and I go that's the prime Story of the lifetime. I go why is it relevant? Everybody else can see that Bill behaves like his dad Where do you get that program? I would say first seven years he learned how to be that program and I said But here's the point Bill didn't see acts like his dad I go why is that relevant? Well if he has a negative program from his father then

95% of the days playing programs that he's not observing that are sabotaging him When I go, but then since Bill does not see his own behavior then here's the summary Bill wakes up in the morning today said damn gonna get healthy today The day I'm gonna find love today the day I'm gonna get the best job and I go great eight o'clock Comes home at five o'clock going Didn't happen not none of those things happened today and then I say to Bill Why didn't they happen and Bill will go well that person did this and this, that happened over there and that and that's the excuse why these things didn't happen for me. And I go, problem, you didn't see all day, you were self sabotaging yourself and the results you saw were from your own actual behavior from the subconscious mind, which did not

take you toward wishes and desires at all. And then you feel like a victim. And that's where the world is caught right now. Most people look at their lives as not being successful as being victims of an outside world. And I go, excuse me, quantum physics. And I call it the most valid science for a simple reason, is because the theories that were brought up in 1927 almost exactly describe what we know today. I mean, it was right on from day one. And I go, so what?

I go primary principle, primary principle, quantum physics, consciousness is creating our life experiences. And I go, why is that relevant? Our own creation is what we're manifesting. And when we don't believe that we're involved because why would we make stupid things like that? And I say, you didn't, it was your program that made you do stupid things. You didn't see it. You believed you were a victim.

I say, what is victim? Powerless. I go, why is that relevant? Because a massive population on this planet is powerless in controlling their lives and they have no idea about why. And as a result, all of them, I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I have victim means powerless that I go, but you're not. You are playing a program. And I go, well, when did I get these programs? I say, but you're not. You are playing a program. And I go, well, when did I get these programs? I say, first seven years, why? Because your computer can't work until you put the program

in. How did I get them? Hypnosis. I downloaded them. What are they? Oh, that comes to the interesting question for this reason. You were not conscious when the programs were being downloaded. Your conscious mind doesn't really kick in

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a little bit because there are a lot of points in there. So if we are programmed, basically our subconscious has been programmed for us for the first seven years of our lives. And we're not aware of that or cognizant of that happening. What is the process of reprogramming if we don't even know we're programmed in the first point? Well, I was going to jump to that one because that's more fun I go what do you mean?

Well what the whole my programs I was not conscious when they were downloaded so therefore I did not filter them And that's the most important point because if you were conscious you would say, oh, that's not bad program Or this is a good program and you know and you handled that way and I go, huh? You weren't conscious so bad good. It's all downloaded and I say so what are my programs, huh, you weren't conscious. So bad, good. It's all downloaded. And I say, so what are my programs? I go, you weren't there in that last trimester pregnancy when it started. You consciously went there from zero to one. That was the whole year you were being programmed. You weren't conscious. You weren't there from one to two. That's another whole year programming. And by the time you

started to get into three, you might have glimpses of some memory. And I go, so why is it relevant? I said, so what are your programs? Because why? You don't know. You are not there. Now I can tell you, but I can tell you what your programs are. You ready? Your life is 95% from your program 5% from your creative but 95% you're playing straight out of The program and I go so why is that relevant? I say your life is a printout of your program I will get by what does that mean I go look at your life right now and recognize a simple fact the things that you like and wish and desire and they come into your life, they come into your life because you have a program to acknowledge and accept them. Here comes the other one. The things that you wish for and desire to have and you have to work

real hard, sweat over, put a lot of effort into it. Man, I'm working on it. I'm going to make it happen. Why are you working so hard? And the answer inevitably is this, whatever that destination you were seeking, it's not covered by your program. And therefore you're trying to override your program with effort. I'm going to work on, I'm going to sweat over, I'm making a, I go, you're going against yourself. I say, why? It's the program that's not letting you get there. I say, what are you trying to do?

I'm going to override the program. And I go, oh, okay, mathematics now. 5% of the day with a little tiny processor. 95% of the day with a million times more powerful processor. You think that conscious mind is easily going to override the subconscious program and go, no. And since most people don't even know it's a subconscious program, they struggle their life not with, you know, against the world.

They struggle because their own program doesn't acknowledge that opportunity. And that's the wake up call. What are your programs? Okay, just look at your life. 95% is the program. So wait, so then basically, you're saying that the things that we struggle with the most, the things that we try the hardest for,

or work towards, like our Achilles heel, or like, or whatever it is that are just, that's just not clicking. That's just not happening for us. You're saying it's because we're not in our, in our big, you know, operating system, in our subconscious, we have not been programmed to be efficient in that way, right?

Right. So let me just stop for a second, because here's a story, very simple. Rich Dad poor dad. Yes. That's a story, very simple. Rich Dad Poor Dad. Yes. That's a great bump. So what does it mean? If I came from a rich family, I got programmed in the beginning of being rich or having

money. And I go to come from a poor family, you have been programmed not to have money. And I say so why is it relevant? Well, if I grew up in a poor family and I'm trying to make money, 95% of the day I'm getting what a program, what do you think you are? You're a poor person, you can't go there, you can't do that. And they struggled to make it. And even a rich person, you know, former president grew up in this and I go, is he wealthy? Well, to a very large degree. Is he intelligent? Not necessarily. He's playing a program that he got from his family of how

to make all this money unconsciously. So unconsciously. And so all of us are unfortunately living unconsciously. And I go so wise or relevant. I say, well, if you want to know about your life, you just brought that up. And I say, well, your life is a printout. And then all of a sudden, because the next question, you're going to come up with, I believe, is, well, what if I have a program that doesn't support me? What can I do?

Is that possible? What the question would have been? I had to put it before, even before, exactly. You're very, very, very, very, you're on point, you're on point, you're amazing. You only think before you tell me, though, how we reprogram what I want, and I agree with you,

because I see that all the time, right? That's a great example of like, if you come from a rich family or a poor family, it's true, I just recently saw somebody who made a fortune, not because of any other reason, but because not because they worked so hard for it, but because they were in the right environment, they got the right opportunity. It was exactly what you said. So when people actually who come from nothing and really succeeding, how was it that there's always an exception to every rule that does happen?

Great question. Okay. Why is that? Parenting, I involved with an organization called the Association of Prenatal and Paranatal Psychology and Health. And in parenting, we bring up that topic very specifically. How did somebody from the lowest ranks of programming rise to the highest level, and the answer is really cool? They use other entities as their programmer, instead of watching the parents or the family, some will pick Jesus. That's my programmer. So they get programmed by that part because they're not open to the programming from their own parents. So I say, oh, they're not inhibited from getting aware anywhere by program because they're not listening to the bad program. The resilient wonders use other people as their

programmer So Pope Jesus Mohammed Did they do that? Did they do that at an early age? So you're saying between the ages of zero to seven they weren't for whatever reason They were focused on other things or other people that took them kind of like away from,

because a couple of people who are in foster care who have no parents or like been beaten or molested, how did, you know, and then they rise to the ranks. What, how are they able to? And there's actually two ways, you know, it's interesting because we're talking about resilient wonders, I say one of those, I say these are the ones that come from the worst

conditions in the world, but end up with programs that allow them to become totally successful. And then I go the other side, which is really bad. And I go, they have lost connection. There's no programming. It's not understood. I go, where are they? Autistic. They don't even come out. They're inside. They're they're they're walled off from the world. Why? It did not support them. It did not and so when you're in a protection mode, which a child will be, then protection is wall yourself off. Growth is open yourself up. Protection wall yourself off. I go, ah,

you can't be in growth and in protection at the same time. So if you get into protection, you actually close yourself down, okay? An autistic child is one generally that has closed itself down. It's too sensitive for the world in which they're living. And because of that irritation, because of their high sensitivity, it's best for them to shut down, not take anything in. I'm not participating. I'm here for someone who's not autistic, though. Someone who's just like a, who's an irregular child, who rose to the ranks of extraordinary. Yes. Later on in life, but they had a terrible, what, so, what happened to them?

So besides, so they didn't have parents and they were in foster, I'm just making this up. It's a fictional. And they were molested or whatever. And they had really terrible things that happened to them and they became superstars. How, where were they, when they have, when they are basically in theta in this hypnosis mode, where are they looking for, who are they guiding or how are they becoming? How is their program okay enough for them to not struggle? One of the child is being abused, they shut themselves down. Okay.

Oh, I see. That's the protective mode. Yeah, but the mind can Can open up with not paying attention to what's going on here. I'm not looking, but they're conscious this could be focused on anyone as a Bible person, a neighbor, a teacher that they really connected with them. Somebody else will allow them to open their eyes.

And if that somebody else has a great program themselves, then that child has just copied that program for them. Close themselves off from parents, open themselves up for hero, whatever hero they choose. And then that hero is the program or not the parent. And so they're probably not even conscious of that happening to them. It just is when they grow up, I mean, they don't have the same struggle, so to speak, whatever that thing is. They disconnected, so they didn't get engaged in the struggle. They just disconnected. I'm not paying attention. Disconnected. Wow. So, so then yeah, now you can answer the question about for the for the for the majority of us, right?

Who have this like faulty programming that we're really kind of living out our lives in? Yeah. How do we when we figure and I guess one of those things where you were noticed, I guess when you when someone is struggling or kind of like beating their head against the wall, that's kind of a sign to them that, ah-ha, this is not in your programming. So how can, right? So then how can someone override that and then fix their program?

Well, the first thing we have to distinguish is the two minds learn in different ways. And that's where the problem comes from. The conscious mind's creative wishes, desires, all that wonderful thing, imagination, great. Subconscious mind is hard program, just what that program is, okay? And I go, Subconscious mind, listen, is habit mind. I go, what does that mean? I go, habits, I go, what are habits? Programs that do not want to change. If you, if you change your habits not a habit anymore. You put a habit in and now you got it.

And I go, you know, everyone sometimes thinks that that subconscious is where evil comes from. I go, no, subconscious is a hard drive on a computer. Is your, is your so hard drive bad or good? I go, depends on the programs. I go, oh, now we got back to the problem. It's the programs. You have good programs. I go, when did you learn how to walk before you were two? And I say, well, how long is that good for? I say, you could be 102. You're still walking. Same program. You got before you were two.

Habit. So habits resist change. That's the first thing you have to understand. So I say subconscious mind is habit mind. There are programs in there. that resist change because if they change Then they're no longer habits. So I go so how do you get into that mind? I go The conscious mind being creative can learn in any number of ways is creative Read a self-help book go to a lecture watch this podcast you can learn stuff like that boom boom

Like a where's that learning? I say, conscious mind. I say, did it go into subconscious mind? I go, no, that's where the problem comes from. You read all the self-help books and you're still the same person you were after. You read all the books. I go, you're smart. You get smart. If I give you a quiz, that conscious mind would answer all the questions.

I said, yeah, but it didn't change your life and the answers because the subconscious mind does not learn that way. So you know that's where frustration comes from. I love this frustration as well. I keep talking to myself to change the damn program and I go who are you talking to? Oh I'm talking to subconscious. I go there's nobody in there. It's a hard drive. You can talk to your blue and face. There's nothing in there to hear you respond. Let's stop that game. That's not working. Okay. So I say, how does the subconscious hard drive work? Okay. And the answer is simply this, that it is the first seven years, it downloaded programs in a state of theta, which is hypnosis. Okay?

It's a vibration. I said, as a child, you start with the lowest vibration delta, which is sleep. That's what the baby, the first year is predominantly in delta, it's sleeping most of the time. And then the next, as it develops, the next higher vibration is theta, hypnosis, imagination. And then around age seven, the vibration kicks up to another higher level. Now it's alpha, that's calm consciousness. And by age 12, it kicks into even higher vibration, which is school room, focus work, you know, the intense focus, okay?

I go, so what? I say, well an infant builds them up. An adult has all of these levels. I say, so let's say right now we're in our beta and we're, you know, thinking and doing all this stuff like this. And then I say, well, now it's five o'clock. Let's go home. I say, what happens to go home? I say, you calm down. So I say, so when you relax relaxed, alpha, just calm consciousness. But the moment you fall asleep, the moment alpha consciousness disconnects, you just want to sleep.

Conscious is not working now. But the vibration is still going down. So the next thing after alpha is theta. And then delta absolute sleep. So I say, well, every night when you go to bed, the moment the conscious mind disconnects, I'm sleeping. Theta is operating. So whatever is coming into your receptors is not going into the conscious mind. That's sleeping. Whatever is going in now is going into theta, which is subconscious mind. So I said, theta is hypnosis.

I go precisely. So every night when you go to bed, if you put a pair of earphones on, you have a program playing, giving you positive affirmations or giving you a wonderful program of something you want that you struggle with. I say, then every night you put the earphones on, you go to bed, and there's a short period where the mind is in theta while that program is playing, and now it's going straight into the subconscious. That's called self hypnosis. But you have to repeat it because as it's going down, it's not a long period in theta each night. It's because it's going down a delta of not a long period and theta each night. It's because it's going down to the delta of absolute sleep.

So repetition is involved there, okay? So that's number one, self hypnosis. That's what those programs are. You know, it's going to say tapes, but that dates me 50 years ago. Problems, okay? What type of program? So this is all the, this is the kind of stuff I like to hear like I like I like when we get very practical

actionable things that people can do to change their lives right so you're saying this is it right so you're saying To reprogram your subconscious mind the first step is to go back to that place which is theta which is self-supnosis and I love what you just said So before you go to bed, that's when you're really kind of in that state. Just the moment before you close your eyes, you're in the last stages of alpha, and now just dropping into theta. So the moment you close your eyes, like, now I'm sleeping,

whatever is coming through that program, your conscious mind did not hear it. So, right. So, let's say I say, okay, so let's say one of my blockages is that I want to make a lot of money, I want to be really successful, or I want to lose a lot of weight, okay, those two are probably two very popular ones. People are struggling with. So then, what do they do? They have affirmations of like, I'm gonna be rich, I'm gonna be rich. I'm gonna put that in there. I have to, there's a very important, it's so important and it seems so trivial,

but it is the most important thing in the world. Okay. So if I put it a program I want to be rich, I shall be healed. I will get a relationship. I say, let's record that right now. Let's say I have a problem with the relationships. And I'm going to now put a program in tonight. I'm going to say, I will find love and happiness. I will find love and happiness. I put that program in there.

I said, let's record it because that's what some conscious mind is doing. I say, fine. Now, let's come back one year. I said, push that record button. Let me not record, but I have to play back. Just give me the play back one year later. I will find love. I go, you had a whole year. I go, what's the point? You program the will to find love.

You never programmed, I am loved. Because that means you're on a perpetual search because you can't get there if the program is you will shall want you know a future thing because then it's just saying oh when I engage this program it's always a future thing it's always a future thing it's like well you can't get there so the and it's hard because the thing you're missing or lacking whether it's health or relationships and then I say yeah but when you put the program in, you don't say, I will get better. I am better.

I am healthy. I have love. You know, all of these have to be, and this is so critical, positive, present tense program. It has to be positive, and it has to be as if you got it right now. I'll give you a reason for it now. So here's my little sidebar reason. The function of the mind, this is short and it's so powerful, the function of the mind is to create coherence between your belief, send your reality. And I say, well, as a relevant, if I have a belief not good enough, then what do you think the function of my mind is to make me good enough?

It's to make sure that my belief is true. I'll go out unconsciously, sabotage myself. And then at the end of the day, go see, I wasn't good enough. I go, that was your program when you started at the end of the day, go, see, I wasn't good enough. I go, that was your program when you started at the end of the day. It's even more real, because the mind is going to make it real. So that is the most important insight. That whatever program you're putting in has to be, as if you already have what you want it, because if you put any future tents in there, then by by definition you will never get

there. It's the that old story of the carrot and the horse you know with the carrot. Yeah, yeah. And there was just moving moving moving toward the carrot and never got there. Okay. So the hard part you can be dying of cancer. Yeah, but what do you think my statement's gonna be? I am healthy. And it's like, come on, give me a break. You know, I go, no, you're telling your subconscious, I am healthy. And then when that is a program, by repetition of that program,

then the function of the mind is to ensure that your belief becomes real, you know? And this is a problem. Okay, is this valid? In any sense, I go 100% valid. I go, give me an example. I tell you an example, placebo effect. What's the placebo effect? It's like this pill is going to make you healthy.

But you believe the doctor, you believe the BS about the pill, you believe it, you take the doctor, you believe the BS about the pill, you believe it. You take the pill, you get better. I can put the pills to sugar pill. Call placebo. And I said, then what healed you the sugar pill? No, your belief of a vision I am healed by taking this pill or doing that surgery. That's the vision that then becomes manifest. And we're like, oh yes, placebo,

that is an extension of what is called positive thinking. placebo is positive thinking. It says that this is going to heal me and fake pill. Okay, so what? Let me just add this part because this, I have to wrap it up here for this part. I go, we've always talked about the results or consequence of positive thinking and I go, what about negative thinking? Ah, we don't talk about that. I go, sorry folks, negative thinking

is equally powerful to positive thinking but the results take you in the wrong direction a Negative thought will manifest. Oh, I just got diagnosed with cancer. I'm gonna die in three months They die in three months. They didn't have the cancer They believe they had the cancer and if the belief is true and the mind makes that believe real You'll die what you have the cancer or? Because you've been programmed by a truth provider. That's where the problem comes from. We bought that. The doctor is a truth provider. I go in our normal growing up most families when somebody sick when they're young during the programming period. I say, what it comes to health? I say, well, mommy sick, she goes to the doctor and dad when he's sick, he goes.

And when I'm sick, I go to the doctor and I say, what did you learn? And the answer was this, when it comes to health, I'm not the professional. But that doctor is a professional. So whatever the doctor's words are, they become your program. So a prognosis is not a suggestion, it's a script of a

future. This is going to happen and this is going to happen. You go, well, that's the truth that I bought that I gave truth to that person. And so their truth becomes my program. And all of a sudden, you know, pro prognosis that's not very positive is a sentence to experience those things. Okay, so my point is I'm sorry to keep going on but no I think that's very valid and I like that. I just wanted to ask something or I know because and I was going to talk about this a little bit, you know, you mentioned it already about cancer, right? So let's say someone has, God forbid has cancer. And I'm sure you've heard this a million times, right?

But I did everything right. I did the positive affirmations. I believed it. I did it with the ear muffs or my headphones. And I went into the theta state and they still ended up passing away or not getting better or the cancer spread because everything you just said required conscious activity. And I go, yeah, so what is conscious activity? I said 5% of the day. I don't care. You've got cancer. You're

not spending more than 5% of the day talking about I'm positive, I'm healing, I'm okay. It's not even 5% of the day. And let me give you a very important biological fact. Okay, there's not one gene that causes cancer. There's no gene that causes cancer. Genes are correlated with cancer. Women are nervous about the BRCA, the breast cancer gene. And then they get diagnosed with it. What do you think is on their mind? What picture is on their mind when they get that diagnosis? The only crap I'm going to get the cancer. I go, geez, that's a bad vision because that's where it's going to come from. It's lifestyle, bad programming, not the gene. 50% of the women with the breast cancer gene never get the cancer.

What's the point? Possession of the gene didn't cause cancer. Possession of the gene in a lifestyle that doesn't support you, that will cause cancer. But when you kill the cells, this is the whole problem. Well, I got cancer and I went to the doctor and I radiation and came out therapy and they killed by cells, like, oh, the cells, that wasn't the, that's a symptom. What do you mean? I say, it means the cells are telling you, you're not living in harmony.

And I say, you killed the cells, I say, so what? I say, you didn't pay attention to the symptom. Guess what? It's gonna come back. Because it was, it's the not, the cancer cells are not the cause of the problem They have become engaged as a consequence of the problem kill all the damn cancer cells you want You didn't kill where the problem came from problem was above the cancer cells

It was a life of Disharmony no hope No love no the positive things that we look for are not in that person's life. And I say, yeah, but they're thinking about all the positive healing. I go, okay, that's 5% of the day. Is it going to work? I go, no, 95% of the day.

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No, I'm not Well, she's your next guest really what's her what's her name and need a need more Johnny mo rj a and I Okay, okay, let me just a synopsis of this is that she had cancer for four years. You know, diagnosed, treated for four years. And at this point in her time, four years, she's now in a hospital. She's on support systems because her system is shut down. She's so emaciated that the cancer lumps are sticking through her body. Okay. And I go, what? What about that? I mean, she, her doctor called her family and said, listen, Anita's in the last stage, she's in a coma. And the oncologist in my patients go into a coma that you better show up because this is the end coming

She had an out-of-body thing which I can see from science because that's what I talk about it, okay? and she resolved the issue that was an issue with her father and and she resolved that issue and It was all about she thought she had lost his love and it was the story. That's what the book, okay?

I go, so what? At the last moment, she was given a choice. Do you want to go back or you want to stay here? And she loved where she was. Why? After riding and pain and cancer and all that stuff, she was free. The energy was good. She was happy. Why would you go back?

You know, except that her husband, Danny, was in the hospital while she was in that coma holding on to her. Danny quit his job two years earlier to take care of her for two years while she had cancer. And he was there holding her hand. She saw it from above that he was there. And then she realized if she didn't go back, he would suffer. So she said, I'll go back. Now the miracle. She wakes up from the coma and she says, I'm hungry. It's like hungry. You know, her system is shut down.

Then within seven days, all the cancer was essentially done. And then the doctors for another seven or so days kept saying, it's in there somewhere, there's a cancer in here. Every time. No cancer. Excuse me, the point. She was on her last moment of life. She was on a machine support.

When she woke up at the coma, the support system was taken off. And then her life came right back. And she's now giving talks all over the place because she came back on the last day of her life with terminal cancer on a machine in a coma, in a coma, done, and comes back healed. So the question is, is it too late? And I go, well, in majority says, from not, and it's like, well, that was a misdiagnosis. I go, that's, I don't know, four years of medical records. And anything else all you had to do was just look at her body

because the cancer lumps were sticking out of her body because she was so thin and and it's like now that was not miscignosis folks. She had terminal cancer the last day of her life came back after having an experience out of her body and her body just went boom came right back to life again and she's as healthy as anybody on this planet. And that was her last day. So if people are going to go that course, how, how, how was that? How long ago was that was, was that in hold on? Was she in the in that documentary heel? Probably, I think she probably was. She's a dear friend of mine. I'm going to go see her this coming week in Sedona That's incredible. That's a fat amazing story. Let me ask you something I want to ask you something so let me God forbid, okay? If you got diagnosed with something terrible like that. Yeah cancer So would you not take any medication? Would you just use your own thoughts and belief system to hopefully cure you?

Here's a point each of of us is different. Each of us will take some effort to get to this place. Okay. Now, some of us might not have that much effort to get there fast enough. So I say, so what does that mean? I say, well, maybe you need a treatment because the cells are going faster than your ability to catch up. So I say, okay, well, go through this, but the primary emphasis is just to stall the cancer while you get your consciousness back and control the takeover again. Okay, and it takes time for some people.

Some people are ready to go right now. Okay, I'm ready to go. I hope never to see a cancer, I have no idea. If I did have a cancer, basically, I sure as hell wouldn't rely on the medical industry to cure my cancer. That's an unlikely event at this time. How many years of cancer research, how many billions of dollars of cancer research since the 30s?

And I go, what are they doing? The same treatment they did in 1930, radiation, chemotherapy, I go, that's the same story. You know, all those years now. And I go, because they're trying to think that the cells of the cause of the problem and not go to the higher level and say that that person's consciousness, you can try to fix everything below this head.

Chemicals, drugs and all that. I said, but the problem doesn't start down there. Problem always starts up here. We're not always. Less than 1% of disease started down here. Over 90% of it was lifestyle stress right here. So if you keep fixing down here, here's where the problem is. I said, that's the manifestation of the problem. The problem didn't start there, it started up here. And so, but most people buy into the story, oh, who am I? I'm just

a victim of this thing. The genes did this to me. I'm nobody. The doctor says that if I do all this stuff, I'll get better and go, well, if you believe the doctor, there genes did this to me, I'm nobody. The doctor says that if I do all this stuff, I'll get better and go, well, if you believe the doctor, there's a possibility in that, but in most cases, the treatment is, if you, if you took a healthy person and gave them the same treatment that a cancer patient gets,

the healthy person will get very sick. It will be very sick. I go, what does that mean? I say, the people that have cancer will get very sick. We'll be very sick. I go, what does that mean? I say, the people that have cancer are already very sick. They get the treatment and pushes them even further over the line. And the idea is, no. We have to start with who we are.

And yet the programming, almost, everybody out there is genes control my life. I'm a victim of my heredity. It's running in my family. A simple story is studying the fate of children adopted into families where there's cancer running in that lineage. The adopted child will get the same family cancer with the same probabilities. Any of the natural siblings in the adopted child came from totally different genetics.

The cancer was a programming consequence, not a genetic consequence. 90% of cancer has no hereditary linkage to the patient. It is like where did it come from? Consciousness. I say, yeah, but they don't have a cancer gene. I say, consciousness can alter the don't have a cancer gene. I say consciousness and alter the reading of your genes to the extent the gene is a blueprint to make a protein. Let's back it up just once then. Yeah, yeah. Body is a protein machine. 100,000 different proteins

assembled to make this human body. When you look in the mirror, that's a protein machine. 100,000, it's sort of like Lego with 100,000 different size parts and you assemble them and blah, blah, you made a human out of it, okay? So the proteins are the building blocks. They're very complex. So I go, so what? I say, well, you need a blueprint to make a protein. I go, oh, that's called DNA. It's a blueprint to make a protein. I go, and I say, why is it relevant? Here's why you go into an architect's office, and she's working on a blueprint. And you ask her, is your blueprint on or off? And she would look at you, what are you crazy? It's a blueprint.

There's not on and off. Exactly. Jains cannot turn themselves on an off. They are blueprints. I go, why is it relevant? I say, everybody's been programmed. The jane turned on. The jane turned on. I go, no, the jane doesn't turn on. A jane is a blueprint. An architect, though, can read the blueprint. And an architect could also change the blueprint. And I go, who's the architect? The mind. And this is a science called epigenetics that is new and the public has not really groked or understood. What is the meaning of this? And the meaning

is this. Let's say this disease is under genetic control. That's a story and I go, what does that mean? Genes control this disease under genetic control. I say, no, this disease is under epi genetic control. It goes, sounds like the same thing. I go, no. Epi means above. They call skin epi dermis. I go, why is it relevant?

I say, because underneath this top, there's a layer called the dermis. An epi dermis translates as above the dermis, I go, why is it wrong? Then I said, because underneath this top, there's a layer called the dermis, an epidermis translates as above the dermis, epi above. Now, let's go back. This disease is under epi genetic control. I say, what is that translated? Control, epi, above, control, above the genes. That's the new revolutionary science. I say, why? the program that almost everybody has out there is a program genes determine the character of my life

I'm a victim of my heredity. I didn't pick them. I can't change them They turn on and off by themselves. I'm a victim. I go stories completely wrong Genes do not turn on and off they can't't. They're blueprints. I say, the mind controls this. And this is above the jeans. Well, they say the environment. I go, look, I knew that 1967. That's when I saw that. And they always talk about the environment. And I go, what people haven't translated most importantly is this. The cells in your body like your liver cell is not in contact with this environment. My liver cell in here is not seeing this, but the liver cell has to adjust its biology to compliment that.

So whatever happens out here, my liver cell will adjust. I go, how the hell does a liver cell know what's going on out there? It's inside! The brain receives the signals from the environment and then releases chemistry that is complementary to those signals to the blood which is where the cells live. I guess the wise or relevant, I say, your brain is translating your environmental signals into chemistry. I say, what? Okay. Close your eyes. You open them. You see someone you love. The brain will translate love into beautiful chemistry. You got dopamine pleasure. Of course,

love is pleasure. It will do oxytocin. Yeah, bonding to that love source. It's taking that image and creating. It releases growth hormone. Growth hormone? Yeah, it does exactly what it says. It's so why is it important? I say when people fall in love, they grow. They're healthy. Like, how is that? I go because the chemistry from love enhances vitality. That's where the growth hormone comes from. I go great. Then I say, okay, wait, I open my eyes. I see something that scares me. I go, none of that love chemistry is coming out of the brain. Now stress hormones and factors that affect the immune system. They come out of the brain. So I say, my brain is translating the environment into complementary chemistry. And I go, if I have fear, then I'm

going to get in protection. Shot myself down. If I have love, I'm going to be open and take it in. And I go, what determined that? And I go, the picture in the mind. I say, then, how do that do? I say, because the brain translated that picture in the mind into the chemistry that compliments the picture. I guess, a wise, all this relevant. I say, my liver cells do not know what's going on in this environment. They only get it through the interpretation of this. And if my interpretation is good or bad, that makes all the difference in the chemistry

that's coming into my body at that moment. And so I say, the environment, because they'll epitonetist, the formal guys with the white lab coats and all that, environment controls genes. I go, yeah, but you have to understand this. The cells in your body do not touch the environment. They're isolated, but they receive information, interpretation of that environment through the nervous system.

And I say, so why is it relevant? And the answer is this, I misinterpret the environment. I sent the wrong damn chemistry in there. Now my life is not in harmony with this outside environment. Two people can stand in the exact same place, the exact same environment, and have totally different responses to it. Why? Because it's an interpretation of environment that the cells see. They don't see the direct environment. And I go, why is it relevant? I say, how did you learn to interpret this world? If you have a lot of negative interpretations and everything you look at will be causing

you to be shutting down and scared, put me more in protection. I say, that's where the stress is causing illness. We have a health crisis on this planet. I go, we spend the most money here in the United States on health and any country in the entire world. And we've got some of the worst health statistics. I go, what's the issue? And I go, what's the issue?

It's simply this. They keep looking at the physical body. It's where the problem's coming from. I go, no, it all starts with this. Like a quantum physics, says consciousness is doing this, epigenetics, says consciousness is controlling this,

and all of a sudden they say, well, then stop trying to fix the body when the problem occurred up here. Because, 1% of anything that happened down here was because of something down here. Well, what's interesting is like 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, people would have looked at a lot of this information as a gobbly group, right? Some of them still do.

And honestly, most people still do. But at the same time, there's been slightly a switch where more and more people I'm finding are, well, people now know that stress causes illness, right? Negativity causes illness. Like, there, there's been a slight shift. I mean, it's not, it's not at the level of course where you are. But I mean, I feel like it's one of these things where it's like you, it's like the crazy professor, like 20, no,

and then all of a sudden, a hundred years later, everything kind of comes to fruition with that stuff, you know? Like slowly, slowly. I saw it in 1967, it was only in 1990 that science recognized what I saw 23 years earlier. Well, that's what I'm talking about. I mean, people know negativity, stress causes way more illness than a lot of,

like that's like the number besides heart disease. I mean, stress causes heart disease. Stress is like usually fundamental in lots of these diseases. Every, virtually everyone. Heart disease, 90% of stress already, they are, that's a given. That's a already started. It's stress's stress related now the question I do have

I have to finish oh you know why because why I talked about changing the program using earphones at night during the sleeping part and Repetition and repetition repetition of that, but then I also say after age seven you still downloaded habits But not through hypnosis. but say how to do it. Practice, repetition, habituation. If you want to change your life, you have to change your practice and engage in a new practice. And then when you engage in a new practice and repeat that practice, then it will become a habit as well. You know what I love? I never talk about it that much, but here I love it, is this.

Great actors take on a character. They don't just take on the role of the lines that they read, they take on the character of that person, and they take on that that character they become different themselves. Renelles El, Renelles Elwagher, what's she do? She had to gain 40 pounds, 40 pounds to play that role that she played. Christian Bale, you know, the machinist. I mean, there's a million. I agree with you.

This is that now you're speaking my language. I agree. You have to act to become. That's right. So why can't I be an actor that says, I'm healthy and happy and a great love and everything? I said, you can, that's a role. Play that role.

But if you let your program play it, you've already been programmed to play another role, and there's not the one you want. So we talked about the first way of programming, headphones, nighttime, self-ipnosis. Second way, new age quote, fake it till you make it. Meaning you want to be happy then pretend you're happy. It's pretend all the time. Pretend I say why is it relevant? habituation

Will program into your subconscious. You are happy. One day you wake up. You don't have to pretend you woke up happy in the first place Why once that program through habituation has been put in the first place. Why? Once that program through habituations been put in the function of the mind, make the program real. So that's how you do it. And then the third way, because I need to get this done soon and that is this, there's a new form of psychology called energy psychology. And I go, what the hell is that? And I go, it's a new way of learning. And I go, what do you mean? I said, maybe you've heard of super learner, super learner. I said, what's a super learner? I said, well, one of the things I can do

is they can read a book by just moving their finger down the page, just like that. Could be hundreds of words. They got them. They can be in a bookstore, turn the pages, just like that. Just like that, read an entire book in 10 minutes. Okay? I go, wow, that's super

learning. They read the book and understand I go, some of these energy psychology practices engage super learning. Okay? So I say, well, what does that mean? I go, you can change a lifelong pattern in minutes, walk away, different. Because some of these engage that super learning process that once you put in the program, it only takes minutes for it to pump that. It's ready. I mean, look, you have a computer.

Let's say you've had a computer for 10 years. I go back and say, look, that document I wrote 10 years ago. There's a program and I go, can I change this? I sure hear or raise this, put that in, put it in. I go, how long did I take? A minute. I changed a program. It's been in there 10 years. How long did I take? A minute. I go exactly the same computer activity occurs in this brain. I just let people know on my website simple bruiselippin.com. I have about 25 different modalities of energy psychology. You look at them and see

what a, you know, feels right for you. Try it. You can change a program in minutes because, you know, necessity. We, you know, invention, mother, you know, nature, inventing by a necessity. And I go, what's the necessity? I say, human behavior is destroying the planet. Right now, we're going extinct. We're destroying the environment. We're in what is called the Six Mass Extinction of Life. Meaning five times there were mass extensions.

I go, well, five times the earth was thriving and some event, boom, blew it out. I go, the last, 66 million years ago, hey, the place was flush with, you know, forest and all that and dinosaurs and all that. And a comet hit the earth, upended the web of life. Boom, dinosaurs gone, 75% of life disappeared and it started all over again.

Today, we are in a mass extinction event that humans have undermined the web of life. And I call it what's the relevance? I go, we are the web of life. When the web of life crashes, we're not here. I go, oh, this, you mean we're going to extend? I said, yes, we are. So, there's going to be thousands of years.

I go, no, decades. We So they're going to be thousands of years ago. No, decades. We're in the final throws of a system where the planet is crashing. We've taken the resources out. We're destroying the ecosystem with our thinking that we know how to control nature. It's like you are nature. You can't control nature.

And yet, human technology and the kind of farming we're doing and the chemicals and the pollution and all this stuff is we, and this is not new, this is 15 years already the science has recognized this, but the public has no idea about it because the media doesn't want to talk about it. It's simple right. Because they hate the idea of telling scaring people without giving them the answer of what to do. So they just don't talk about it. We're going to say to nobody's talking about it. That's unbelievable.

I mean, so you're saying that basically to reprogram and retrain your brain and subconscious, you go into self hypnosis, repetition, new habit forming, habituation, and you also said something about what you just said, energy psychology. Is energy psychology the same as super learning, or energy psychology is a lot of different modalities?

It engages the same character of super learning. As fast as you can read all the words like that, the brain can also take a program and go, okay, I got it in minutes and change the thing. I mean, you can change the belief you had 50, 60, 70 years and 10 minutes, 15 minutes. And how? How? Super learning process.

Well, that's the modality that I gave that are called energy. Oh, and that's the modality that I need to go and see, check. I got a learn about super learning, basically. I think Jim Quick talks about that too. Is that like the, do you know who Jim Quick is? No, I really don't. Oh, okay.

I have one other question for you and then we can, I can let you go back into your day, okay? Well, I'm very curious about mental health, right? Because that is sometimes, you know, chemical, like your dopamine, your serotonin. Doesn't, how does that affect your ability for, you know, chemical, like your dopamine, your serotonin. How does that affect your ability for, you know, your positivity, your negativity, your belief system, your anchor beliefs? Is there ways to kind of,

like how does all of this work with when people have like an actual chemical imbalance? Yeah. Well, the chemical imbalance didn't start because of the drug company. If you, oh, there's a broken chemical in there and we're going to give you a drug and replace that. I say, no, the chemical imbalance started up here because the imbalance is not a defect. It's a natural consequence of whatever the picture was up here. And then we give it, oh,

that's not working right. It's an imbalance. I go, it's working exactly right according to whatever you're sending. And that's the most important thing. There has to be something and this is the hardest word. Responsibility. We have to have responsibility because when we keep giving, in fact, that I'm not responsible, the genes did it. Those people did it. The government did it. I I go you have no power over your life Because what you've just done is said I empower this and every one of those statements that I going You want to take back power in life then you have to recognize you are the powerful person and then that means responsibility And I go and a problem about all this I'll just tell you right now because I've given these lectures for 30 40 years You know, I know a problem is I come in and start to give them the science of yes, your mind is creating all this and then a lot of people

go back and go, I wouldn't have created that cancer. I wouldn't have done this thing. Not me, I wouldn't do that. So blame, shame, victim, guilt, that keeps them from owning responsibility. Okay, and I go, wait a minute. All of those words only apply if a person had knowledge beforehand of what they're doing, okay? And I go, if I know that this is wrong and I do it, then I'm guilty. Then I should have shame.

Okay, or I can be blamed. Okay. But if I had no idea, I was involved in any of this stuff that happened up to this minute. And I say, what about all that? I go, you weren't there. You had no knowledge, no knowledge, you had no power. So anything that happened in the past is irrelevant except for the learning. Because why? Because the moment you take the power there's a new future right now.

The past is only an expression of I have no knowledge. Can I blame you for not having knowledge? Can I, you're a guilty victim, blame shame person because you have no knowledge? I guess no. Until you have knowledge, you have no power. Knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. The only thing is, then my part, part B of that is you talked about changing your habits, repetition.

What are some of the habits that you recommend for people to do to help them? Like, what are some of the habits that you recommend for people to do to help them? Like, what are some of the happy, besides the energy, psychology, super learning? What are other habits? Okay, number one we talked about was this. Your life is a printout of your program. So if you want to see where it's failing, instead of going out there looking at the world, it's a you world you change. I don't know. Right. I change at that point. Okay. That there are many issues about this that are very important

One of the ones that is you know, I mean, I have a whole little list of these things of Of things like that. I said, you know, energy is life Yeah, that's a given fact. You got energy. You got life. You got no energy. You got no life. And I go guess what people use their energy energy on no life and I go, guess what? People use their energy foolishly. I go, what do you mean? I said, pretend you have a, pretend you have a bank account, a checking account.

And you walk down the street and go, oh, Jennifer, what a beautiful hair you have. Here's $5 for you. Oh, Bill, you got nice pair of shoes. You know, you should get $5 too. And you go down and you give away your money. I said, your money was your life. And I said go down, you give away your money. I said, your money was your life. And I say, you don't give away your money. I say, but you do give away your energy. I go,

what do you mean? I say, well, you get them filed, putting a lot of energy into things that return nothing to you. I just like what? Oh, hey, go down to a local bar, get into an argument about politics, get all heated up, spend all that energy, heat is wasted energy by definition and physics. You get all heated up, you waste it all that energy, you walk out of the bar, you just use a lot of energy, did you change anything? No. No, that was your money. I threw it out the window. And all of a sudden it says, if I give you an energy checkbook, it says before I invest my energy, and I before I write this check, does, do I get anything out of it?

Does the world get something out of this? Or am I just giving it away? And once you start to see that, there's a point where you start to realize, oh my God, how many behaviors and things that we do in life are done because what we always do, that that's socially blah, blah blah blah blah and I go, well, give us a damn. If you give away your energy and you've got nothing back, you have just shortened your life for nothing. So for me, that becomes important because we use energy all day and I go, yeah, but how much of that is returning and how much of that is just lost into space? You know, that,

another thing that's real important to learn is there's no such thing as a last word. Because I say, what number is infinity? What number, you give me any number? I add one, we got a new infinity. I say it could be positive or it could be negative infinity. Okay, last word is negative infinity. When is the last word and I go, there is no last word.

Why? Because anytime you think you've just is the last word and I go, there is no last word. Why? Because anytime you think you've just said the last word, there's another one to show up. So I recognize this in my life and it's really important. When I'm in conflict with somebody and there's a, you know, last word going back and forth, I recognize something very important. I let them win. I mean, brochure of stupid idiot. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm a very important. I let them win. But I mean, brochure of stupid idiot. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm a stupid idiot. I go, why did, why, what was relevant?

I said, because what is going to say? Bruce, I told you you were stupid idiot. I go, yeah, we agreed on that. What else? And there's some points, like you can't keep coming back with stupid idiot. It's done. I say, did I, so I let them win? I go, yes,

why? I don't give a damn about them. I give a damn about these people over here. And so I'm going to get into an argument with a last word and that's where people just, the arguments extend. They never end. They extend. Hey, Arabs and Jews have been arguing over the same damn thing for 400 years, and they're still arguing over it. They're still arguing, yeah. Because when they win, they go away. What a wonderful idea. Okay.

It's that, no, it's 100, I agree. I mean, with what your concept is for sure, right? You should allocate your energy to places where it will be who you and benefit you. Not just train you. Benefits you or the world. Then you're a contributor. Otherwise you're just a thrown it away.

And I go, people have to stop and say, what things am I doing in my life? We do because that's the way we always do it versus something that I really needed to do. And I started to say the ones we always did it, it's like, I don't want to do it anymore. It's great. You'll enjoy your life. I mean, simply, I could always remember the first time that had happened to me because I was reviewing this energy idea and then I was on the faculty and one of my colleagues came in and said, Bruce, don't forget, we have the faculty party on Saturday night. What are you bringing?

And I say in my mind, that is the worst waste of time I've ever spent my whole life is go to faculty parties because they don't like each other. They stand around with a glass just looking at each other. Saturday night, man, that's my night. I worked all week. I got a Saturday night. No, you're going to go to the faculty meeting because we all go. And I remember just saying, oh, oh, I forgot. I had made other plans. I didn't realize that this weekend was the faculty meeting and he looked at me like, you're not going to the party. Oh no. He walked out of the room. Moment he walked out of the room was like Oh, I got Saturday night. It's my Saturday night to do what I want to do

Immediately the first thought that came in my head was what's next? Next what I'm gotten out of your wife. I return energy to me that I got nothing going to that faculty meeting for. I fully agree with that as well. Like you have to be able to like, and I think a lot of times people just do what they're supposed to do with society tells and they wanna be polite, they wanna be, they wanna fit in,

they wanna stay the right thing. And it's so contrary to being true to who you are, people are afraid and there's a lot of fear based in that, you know, like, fitting fit in, I go, the fitting in, I don't want to fit in. No, do I, into it, everybody in the world, not in true life. If you have one or two close friends, you've got something, okay? 100% I could not agree with you more. I'm not going to tell you how many. It's like you have at least one or two friends that you can have a heart to heart without

filters, without beliefs and talk and not be afraid of anything you thought. And then all of a sudden that's success at that point. I could not agree with you more. I really appreciate you being on this podcast. I really do. You are a great guest, great information. Thank you for your time. You've been very generous with your time. Of course, over an hour, apologize.

That's okay. You know why? We're having a good time. There's no dead air space in here. No, no dead airspace in here. No, no dead airspace. And the things that we're offering are things that we have learned collectively to take back power and control over our lives because we gave it up without even knowing how wide, when and once we start to become aware, it's like, oh, wait,

I want the life I want. And all of a sudden it says, yeah, well, you can have that. I agree. The book, by the way, I didn't even show it's called The Biology of the Leaf. This is one of many books that Bruce, Dr. Bruce Lipton, has written. This is probably the most popular, most well-known, it's like famous. I didn't even get into the other book, the honeymoon. You'll come back. I love that one. I wanted to listen. Will you do me a favor before I let you go? Will you come back on the podcast and talk about that one? I would love to. Because that for a guy who couldn't

get a relationship off to the ground for over 45 years. Oh, I guess guess what I found out program I got from my mother and father would never give you a relationship. And then mine did, but once you understand this, then all of a sudden I created a relationship 23 years now, honeymoon every day. Wake up, celebrate being with each other, celebrate the day and living in the most positive wonderful way of life 23 years because people have had the honeymoon. I say your life is blah blah blah blah then you met somebody in 24 hours later it was like oh life is so beautiful I love everything. I go how like a blah blah blah 24 hours later? You got

this and the answer was we'll go back to what we talked about. That normally 95% of my life is coming from the program. When you fall in love, it goes the other way around. 90% of your life comes from the conscious mind. I say, which is that? Wishes and desires. I say, so one, two people come together and they're not playing programs. They're manifesting wishes and desires. That's called the honeymoon. I go, and how come it doesn't last? The answer is the reason you experience this is you stop thinking. You stay what is called mindful. You keep present. You don't think. I go, well, what do you mean if I'm not thinking? I say, then you're not playing programs.

And I say, wow, what does that mean? I say, well, you just made a relationship with what? The beautiful vision of what you want to be in your conscious creative mind. The most wonderful person that you think you are and that your partner is seeing all of this and then you've got heaven on earth. And then one day you start thinking because you got jobs, responsibilities and stuff and you start thinking your partner comes up to you and says, whoa something sweet or something and you go, blah blah blah. And your partner looks at you and says, who are you? What is that? That's a story of Bill folks because I've been done.

I just go ahead. Go ahead. My parents behavior and the guess what? As these start to show up, they were never part of the honeymoon. When these programs that you didn't play start manifesting, honeymoon is going to disappear because now you're back into playing a stupid program set that you have because you're thinking more and then just playing the programs that you downloaded with which are not very good. Exactly.

I like that. Will you come back and talk about this more in another year and a half? I'd love to. Will you come back and talk about this more? Another year and a half? I'd love to. Thank you. So where do people find you? Just tell them BruceLypton.com is your website. It's easy, easy, easy. Thanks so much. Everything we talked about, downloadables, videos, audio, written articles, download, free. Awesome. And then also you're on your on social media. Is it just dot, what is your, what's your Instagram? It just what is your Instagram? It's what is your Instagram?

Those things, whatever they are. OK, yeah. You'll find them. Just look for Dr. Bruce Lipton. You guys will find him. Thank you so much. I loved this conversation. I appreciate you.

And thank you again. Thank you. I was so enjoyed being here and really appreciate that we have an audience because that audience now with some of this information has an opportunity to re-empower their lives and take back control and create the heaven on earth, the honeymoon that could last for your entire life.

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