Habits and Hustle - Episode 175: Tunde Oyeneyin – Peloton Cycling Instructor, Makeup Artist, and Best Selling Author of “Speak”

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

Pre-order Jen’s New Book: Bigger, Better, Bolder today: https://amzn.to/3hvtqYp Tunde Oyeneyin is a Peloton Cycling Instructor, Makeup Artist, and Best Selling Author of “Speak”. Listening to this episode, knowing anything about who Tunde is now, would shock your system to its core. Being an instructor on one of the fastest-growing exercise platforms may make it seem like it’s been a lifelong goal or a lifestyle that’s always come easy, but Tunde has stories of struggle and personal weight loss that might catch a few listeners off-guard. This one’s short and sweet and Tunde is very open about her way into fitness and health and how she became an instructor, and in part, a bit of a celebrity to those who know the brand. It’s been a wild experience for her, so if you’ve ever wondered who those coaches on your screen are, where they came from, and what they’re like, or if you just love a story about personal triumph and meaningful success, then this episode is for you! Youtube Link to This Episode Tunde Oyeneyin’s Links – https://linktr.ee/tune2tunde Tunde Oyeneyin’s Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/tune2tunde ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Fresh it. Today on the podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Tunde Oyanin, who is one of the most popular Pelotonin structures I have ever seen. She is garnered such an audience and motivates people at a level that is just beyond. She also is now a new author of a book called Speak, which is now a New York Times bestseller.

It's called Speak, Find Your Voice, Trust Your Gut, and Get From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be. It's an empowering look into how she transformed grief and setbacks and flaws into growth and self-confidence and triumph. She really is amazing. She's also, she used to be a makeup artist.

She also now has a podcast with Peloton called Fitness Flipped. And she's becoming very, very quickly one of the most popular motivational speakers on the circuit. So I really hope that you enjoy listening to this podcast. We talk all about how you can turn your life around and you can make your pain, your fuel, and about resilience. And I hope you enjoy. Having classes by the way, do you do a day

or wish the schedule like when you... We're doing this for the podcast. I mean, we started. Okay, why didn't know that group ran ahead, everybody. I used to teach pre-pandemic 12 to 14 classes a week. Now I teach maybe six to eight classes a week. I think maybe three or four of those are live. And then why don't we, no, this is a really great question.

Maybe I said, sit down and count all the causes I teach a week. I was actually saying, yeah, maybe like six, six to eight classes a week. And I'm curious, I'm going to ask you right off the bat. So what, other than doing Peloton out, what kind of workouts do you do for yourself? Because, you know, or is it just cycling? Because you just like it so much or because you're doing it for a job, you know, or is it just cycling because you just like it so much or because you're doing it for a job, does it kind of feel like it's like too much already and it's not really actually like not that it's not fun, but it's like you're giving

so much to the class that it's not really your time, right? So what do you do on your own? Right, right. Well, I mean, I think that any well-rounded workout encompass is fully encompassing so I would never recommend to do it one of anything whether that's strength training cardio whatever I love cycling and so a lot of time cycling is my cardio but I definitely mix in strength training that's lifting weights Pilates yoga lots of core work.

And then in terms of it being my thing, like if I'm teaching a class that day, I don't necessarily consider that my workout because you know when you workout a workout is a release, like you're releasing and then drawing inward. Kind of like you're escaping and you're forgetting the reality that's happening. I would love to do that during a cycling class but then I wouldn't talk and say a word or cue or know what song was coming up next. So I'm so fully aware of what's happening next and what I need to cue in terms of cadence resistance was about happening in the class. And so it isn't my workout, it isn't my release, it's my work, not my work out if that makes sense. It all makes perfect sense.. I mean, years ago that I used to do a lot of training

for record label. That's how I started in my life in my world. And so I did so much of it that I was so burnt out when I didn't even like to work out for myself, right? Because I was doing the same thing with so many people that when it would came to me, I was like, oh my God, here I go again. Your passion that you turn into a job a lot of times becomes lackluster, right?

Sometimes because then you're burnt out. So you never get burnt out. Do you ever have days? Tell me, I am a people person. I feed off of human energy and connection. And if I was just teaching in an empty cycling room, I probably would be burnt out by now. I am teaching in an empty cycling room. And I'm able to receive what's happening on the other end.

And so I get Instagram messages, DMs, I see what's going on. I run into people at the supermarket. And so that's what fuels me, like the people piece of it. When I get to connect with the people that are on the other side of the screen, screen, I'm going to get inside of the screen. That's what fills me up. I said screen because I think about what people are doing

in my class, they're screaming at me. I was like, the people on the other side of the screen. Yeah, that fills me up. You know what I was saying, she before we got like our technical difficulty that the one thing, I do a lot of fitness stuff, but the one thing I have never really done continually is spinning or peloton, which is so funny because when I knew you were coming on and when we scheduled this, I cannot tell you, I was saying everybody was so psyched for having, it was like, it was literally having like a rock star.

It could have been like having, you know, cold play on or something. I just make it, oh, whoever, you know, like, people are like, oh my god, like, by doctor, my sister, my friends, like, my neighbor, I mean, it's really remarkable because people see you. I mean, Peloton is so, so popular, right? And people, you've like, you hit so, that, what, 20,000 people you teach a day, let's say,

right? Is that amount then now? Yeah, I mean, up to in a live class, it could be anywhere from 20,000 people. In one live class, it's happening, not to mention classes that live on demand that have various users all throughout the day. Absolutely. It makes people like instant celebrities, right, where people feel like they know you, they see you in their living room every single day.

And it's remarkable. So the impact that you have on so many people is beyond, but is it strange for you? Because like that, was it strange to get used to? Like, does it feed you? How do you deal with it? Because it's a lot, like from not to having that and then on the Peloton community, having so many people know who you are

when you walk down the street or go shopping, like you said. That's like, that is jarry, I think. so many people know who you are when you walk down the street or go shopping like you said. That's like that is jarry. I think what's interesting about it is when you're as a Peloton instructor or rather as an actress, I think about Jennifer Aniston who played Rachel for years on friends, Jennifer Aniston played a character. And so as much as Jennifer Aniston is, you know, this very much likeable girl next door, you fall in love with a character that she's playing until the day of now Instagram where you feel like you know people a little bit better. The

interesting thing about a Peloton instructor is we're not playing anybody. You're going in there as the role of yourself. And so you know like what I'm eating for lunch and dinner because sometimes I'll talk about it in class. You know if I'm dating anybody because sometimes I'll talk about it in class. And so you're really getting to see someone from the inside out and then the friend connection comes in because this is somebody that you see daily. This is somebody who is struggling with you daily. This is somebody who is struggling with you, daily. This is somebody who's growing with you, daily. This is somebody who is helping to push you through or to overcome obstacles daily.

So there's a really interesting, unique and beautiful relationship that's formed out of it. Has it taken some time to get used to, totally? I mean, Peloton was obviously big before the pandemic and then after the pandemic, it was like mass explosion. And so, you know, we went from isolation, not going outside to then going outside and wearing masks and somewhat being recognized, like if I had my job with me.

And then now that the masks are off, it is definitely like stepping into this new space all at once. But I welcome it. I would much rather people recognize me for something they like versus being recognized as this person that you hate. So I'd take it and I welcome it. Blazing Deals, Boundless Options Its hot grill summer at Whole Foods Market from June 14 through July 4.

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So you're winding down with the podcast. Sounds like you have no plans to leave the couch tonight. Nope, you just want to unzip your jeans, slip on a pair of fuzzy slippers, and rip open a bag of skinny pop popcorn Because the only place you're going tonight is the bottom of this bag of popcorn No, they like you. I mean honestly like my dermatologist who's I don't know what she's over I think she's around 60. She's like, can I come over and like me, like people are like, so excited,

like, well, I'm not doing it in person. This one. But it's really, it's a big, oh my gosh. No, it's great. I mean, so, I mean, we're going to talk all about your book, which I want to, I really, by the way, I really enjoyed your book.

It was, it was a really, you did a really nice job. You're welcome. But I just wanted to like, you know, you became so popular. Most of the instructors don't have this type of popularity, correct? You're probably that top instructor there. You must be you and Cosby.

I mean, Cosby. Cosby. Cody, Cody, I think that. Each instructor has their own fan base in their own community. I look at Peloton, one of the instructors named Samo. He likened Peloton instructor to the Avengers. Like each person plays a very specific role. And, you know, I don't think that we'd be as successful as we are without any one

person on this team. No one would be as successful on their own. That's for sure. And I think it really is like each character bringing for their specific role that makes this what it is. Like I wouldn't be strong without my teammates. We definitely support one another and make this thing the magic that it is. I love that analogy actually. So what would be your role? What would you define what your,

what Avenger would you be? I think, you know, if I think about what I bring to the table, I'm definitely the person who will motivate the hell out of you while kicking your ass with a smile on my face. Not because it's not smiling at you because I'm kicking your ass, but smiling because it's this idea that we get to be in this space and Bring out the best of ourselves within it. I always say I will push you But I will never let you fall we work really really really hard in my classes But we equally have just as much fun like I hope that you smile within it I hope maybe there is a point that you laugh. I hope that you're dancing to the music life is short

It's just to work out. Let's not take it that seriously. And with that being said, you had 30 minutes today. You chose to spend that time with me. I'll be damned if I waste your time. So that's my outlook on it. I love it. So let's talk about the book that you wrote,

of course, called Speak, which is now like a New York Times bestseller, right? Yeah, really incredible. Really incredible. That's amazing. So what made you decide to write a book now? And like, yeah, to start with that. Like what made you like now, not now,

but when you did it a year ago or whenever it started? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I said in the third grade that I wanted to write a book. I said that I wanted to write a book in the third grade. And that moment has arrived now. I think that my life and my story, it's filled with so much uncertainty.

So much uncertainty, I think the last two years for so many people has been filled with so much uncertainty. I think the beautiful thing about uncertainty is that it leads you to infinite possibility. When you don't know what's next, you don't know what's next, and so then anything could be next. And so knowing what you know keeps you knowing only what you know. If my story, if my experience can be a guide, an example for anyone going through the shit that they're going through, then please allow my story to be the example To to aid you in wherever you are within your journey. I think that we're all very different people humans

We're all different. I think that we're more alike than we are different and when we're vulnerable enough to share our stories Then we see the common threads, then we see What connects us that we really are a Lot more like than we are different and so that's why the book that's why now I like the sentence that you put the beauty of uncertainty is infinite possibility Which is so it's such a true statement and I love that you wrote that. The book also isn't linear, right? I kind of feel like when you meet somebody, you meet a friend, you don't tell them,

okay, first when I was six I did this and then it ate, I did that, you meet and your life plays itself out as it goes. And I feel like with the book it was very similar to that. It wasn't like super linear, right? When you wrote the book, which is kind of, I feel like how life really is too, right? And so, but you've had a lot of like, you had your own weight loss struggle. You had a lot of loss in your life. It sounds to me like your book was super, you kind of were very vulnerable in your book. And I wanted to kind of talk to you about your whole evolution, weight loss, and how you kind of found confidence,

and how do you help people that they can kind of go on that journey for confidence? Like, you know, how do they kind of build their own self confidence? Yeah, I think that, you know, you hear, you see someone and you assume that because they're happier because they're full of joy that life has just been peachy, you see someone that's a fitness instructor and you assume that either, a, they've always been fit or they've always

been fit and they really enjoy working out like they're all at it. And I wanted to share within the book that my resilience is in response to trauma. My resilience is in response to trauma. I lost my little brother when he was 19 years old. And then three years after that, I lost my dad. And then three years after that, I lost my mother all very unexpectedly. I lost half of my immediate family members within six years.

And so I, although I would do anything to have any one of them back, I am who I am today because of my experience, specifically to speak to the weight loss that you mentioned, I grew up, overweight, I was made fun of as a kid, all the things. In many ways held my value to other people's opinion of me. I held myself word to what other people thought of me. And so, you know, I was very much, if anybody's taking my classes, I'd dance a lot somehow clipped into a bike. I didn't dance them because I didn't want to dance

because I felt like I did that and people would see me. And then if they saw me, I felt like they would know it's my size. I didn't laugh loud. Because I felt like if I laughed out loud again, I'd get attention and people would see that I was in the room and they'd see my size. And so I did so many things to minimize myself.

I shrunk myself to fit in this tiny space that I felt like I needed to be in, to fit in. And so when I finally lost the weight, actually many years after I lost the weight. Actually, many years after I lost the weight, I had this self thought reflection. And I said to myself, you know, for so many years, this is after losing the weight. For so many years, I felt like the world had finally accepted me. People had accepted me because I was skinny

as if I told myself. So now they like me. And then after much time and reflection, I realized people didn't like me because I looked like them. People were gravitating towards me because I was finally showing them who I was. I was finally comfortable in myself to show them who I was. And so if I was gonna do all of this again, yes, I would have still found wellness,

I would have still gotten healthy, but I would have loved myself before, during, and after. I wouldn't have waited till I lost the way to find my confidence. I wouldn't have waited till I lost the way to show people who I really was. I think that so many people can relate to that story. Maybe it's weight loss, maybe it's not.

But I think that so often we shrink ourselves to become these characters, to play this role to become these characters, to play this role that we think that we need to, to be accepted, to be not categorized as other. I mean, that, yes, I think that's very true. I also think though, when someone does, when you lose weight, right, I think there's, that's a byproduct of a lot of different things that happen from that point, right? Because then you feel, when you feel more physically confident, you feel more mentally confident and it kind of works hand and hand. So it's not necessary.

So people feel more comfortable being there more authentic self, I feel, right? When they have more confidence. and I think when you do have that weight loss, it does breed that sense of confidence, right? Like, what was the catalyst for you to even start the weight loss process? And what did you do? What was the first thing that you did? Like, what was the process for you? Yeah, I think that, I mean, I will say I think that you can be confident at any size. I don't think that weight well, I don't think that confidence looks a certain size. And that's the connection and collaboration that I did make before. I think that when you work out, there's obviously the adrenaline that comes with it.

Sweat is good for your mental state. I wish that I just focused on movement versus a gene size. I wish that I'd focused on lifting weights, feeling strong, getting on a bike and moving versus trying to look like the popular girl. And so for me, it was that click, it was that connector that not only, I was game confidence when I lost the weight for sure, but I think that what's kept me in this journey is that feeling. I come back to that feeling because I like feeling strong in my body. So that makes sense?

Oh, absolutely. It makes perfect sense. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. But I feel like it's in that process where people start to shine and have the confidence. Because also, I feel happens is you're seeing yourself, you're putting yourself in a situation that you're winning at, right? Like you're every day, you're like working towards something, you're showing yourself getting more strong, more fit, more, you know, you're more, you move more. I think the process of you actually showing up

and doing something for yourself that's good gives you confidence It's not the number on the scale it right right that it's the process You know a years ago. I had this weight loss show where we had these couples who at would all Basically whoever whatever couple lost the most weight would win their dream wedding, right? This was on the CW, like 10 years ago. And in the process of that happening in the show, it wasn't so much about the number that they were losing that made them confident, but in that process,

they were like changing their careers, they were putting their jobs, they were like really becoming the real versions of who they really wanted to be because they saw themselves succeeding in something. It was them like actually succeeding that kind of changed their I guess their brain chemistry, right? Like it was a neuro-crisisely was changing and so I'm a big believer if you just actually do something to actually make that change for yourself That gives you the empowerment like to for confidence as well. Right. Right. I agree with that.

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So what exactly was that catalyst? I talked about the book of your mom made that dress for you what that was like she did the two dresses, which I don't know, was that the catalyst for you to go on this weight loss journey? And like, how did you start? I mean, what, like, when other people, like when people listen, to kind of just,

usually the hardest part for people is just in the start, right? So what did you do and what can other people do? Yeah, I mean, in order to begin this type of journey, you have to wanna do it for yourself period. You set out to do it for somebody else, and if that relationship is, there's a disconnect in that relationship, then you no longer show up because you were showing up for them, not for yourself.

For me, I'm supposed to be a bridesmaid in my on-strading, which is a story you're alluding to. Go to the bridesmaid store, or the dress shop store, dress doesn't come in my size. I had this moment where I broke down, my mother asked me what was wrong, and I said, you know, if I do wear a different dress, that's then the Bridesmaids, even if my dress is prettier, because I didn't have to wear the hideous dress, everybody else was supposed to wear. Everyone would know that I was the one that couldn't fit into the dress.

And it was almost as then, as if that was going to be the giveaway. Because I've been trying to hide, trying to hide, trying to hide. And now you see me walking down the aisle in a different dress and then there's the elephant in the room. Like everyone would know. You know, my mom did end up buying two dresses, sewing one dress together for me so that I would look different. And she said to me, said something to me in that moment,

my mother never said anything about my size, always made me feel like I was the most beautiful role in the planet. And she said to me in that moment, you had to make, if you want to change things up, you have to make changes. And I think that was her way of empowering me to take this into my own hands that I owed this.

And so I started bullying. And to your point, people always ask, well, what's the best advice? I think give yourself, start with bite-sized shoes. You have to feel like you're winning to continue to do it. If you set out and say, I'm gonna start working out. I'm gonna work out six days a week. I'm going to work out an hour every single day. If you haven't worked out in five years, that's a lofty go lofty task. Start by saying, I'm going

to do five minutes of stretching. Two five minutes of stretching. Work your way up to 10 minutes of a brisk walk and then start to add on from there. But when you give yourself these shoes that you swallow and you feel like you're winning, then you're bold in to show up and do it again the next day, because it feels good. I think to the point that you were making earlier. No, I think that's a great advice. Well, why did you call the book Speak? I mean, is it to, you say it's find your voice, trust your gut?

It's a, it stands for something. We talk about that and why you decided to call it that. Sure. Speak is an acronym, Surrender Power, Empathy, Authenticity, and Knowledge. I looked at those five words as elements and how they show up in my life. When I surrender, it results in growth, growth that leads to change. I speak to power in the book as this drumbeat, this thing that I feel when I know that I'm

doing the thing that I'm supposed to do, the thing that you know that you're here to do. When you're moving in that, doing that, you're moving and you can feel your power. Empathy is rooted in love, not just love for others, but self-love. If I don't know how to love me, how can I love you? Offenticity is the intersection of truth and trust. When you trust yourself enough to show up as you truly are, daring to have the audacity to show up as you truly are, daring to have the audacity, to show up as you are, and then lastly, knowledge,

echoes of the past, inform the future. Every experience, every misstep, every opportunity, all of the trauma, all of the hurt, all of the winds,

you use all of that to move you and guide you into the next space. Speak. It's a round of power, empathy offense, but I love that. I love that. And you've felt like you said that you kind of always, you once, you kind of had this, you started, you had it what, you tried your first spin class in LA just because there was the gym in the hotel was terrible or something. And then you

knew that was your calling. But you know, when I want to talk, I wanted you to talk about how the resilience and like about resilience and about. You didn't necessarily, you took you a year to get the job of the on peloton, right? Like you didn't get it right away. And it was, can you is this a do you hear? Okay,, I wasn't sure, because you froze for a second. We froze for a second, but you're back. Yeah. Okay, good, good, good, good. I want to talk about that because a lot of times it's people think that when they didn't get something, then that's it. They're, you know, it's, it's, it's over for them. But a lot of times that's not that that could just be the beginning of the path. And so it's

why I love that, I'm actually, I love that you didn't get it because the fact that you got it a year later and became so popular and like Obviously you were meant for this is just kind of just proof that that people should not be just giving up on their first chance. So I mean, it's amazing. So talk about that a little bit. Yeah, so I was actually lived in LA at the time and I was in New York. I was a makeup artist at the time. So I was in New York on a makeup gig. Had a cycling class or went to a cycling class

that changed my life after my very first cycling class. I had what I call this blue light vision, this divine download of information, where within five seconds I thought this wave of blue energy moved through my body and I knew that I again after my very first cycling class. I knew that I'd be cycling for the rest of my life. I knew that I'd be teaching it and I was most certain that I'd be teaching it on the world's biggest platform, able to touch hundreds of thousands of millions of people. I didn't even know what Peloton was at the time, but I believed what I saw to be certain.

And so, you know, I guess I was about it. What was it like that just kind of impacted you so much? What part of the experience were you like, oh my God, this is going to be my future? What was it about the cycling experience for the mission? Yeah, like what was the both? Like what how did, because you were a make up,

you were very successful at make a part. It's like how did you, why did you not think that was your path? Like why did you think the penalty was like that? God, when I was in this space of uncertainty, I mean everybody had this dream job and you worked so hard for this dream job. And then when it feels like your dream job is not it anymore, it almost feels like a break up.

You're confused. You thought that you were meant for each other. And so I was living this, you know, from the outside looking in this incredible job. Other people would have killed for the job I had. Sorry, but I would have killed for it. That's okay. Other people would have killed for the job I had. I would have killed for the job that I had.

And then I woke up one day and realized, I hate this. And so I'm in this space of uncertainty. I'm in New York, in this cycling class. I'm in this state of euphoria. Moving meditation is what I call it. You know, I think some people may have that connection to running, where it just feels like you're so connected, so aware, and finally so present. We spend so much of our day not present. Finally so present.

In this class, I was so present. I was so awake. Everything felt aligned, clear. in this class, I was so present, I was so awake. Everything felt aligned, clear. And so I'm out of this class now having what I call again, this blue light vision, most certain of this is what I'm supposed to be doing. More certain than I've ever been about anything in my entire life. And so I believed it to be true.

And then I got back to LA, Impostor syndrome sat in. Impostor syndrome said, you don't look like sound like move, like talk, like motivate, like instructor. You couldn't be an instructor. So I went through that whole battle for like eight months before I finally went that certified.

Audition at a mom and pup studio was working there some maybe three months when I get Instagram DM from this guy Cody Rigsby who says he's one of the leads at Peloton I should come out on audition audition left he told me it was one of the best auditions he'd ever seen a month later I get an email that says we regret to inform you we won't be moving forward. And so, yeah, I was devastated, heartbroken, all the things. I'd have this vision.

I was so certain. And then out of this blue, this guy deems me, this guy who could change my life. And I didn't ask to audition. Everything's adding up. Everything's in line and moving in motion with what I'd sought to be mine. I auditioned. He told me I was amazing. Then I get this, the information that they won't be moving forward.

Why? Like, by the way, I don't even know. If you had a great audition, why did they not get the job initially? It wasn't, there was a vote. There was a vote. Every person on the vote had to say forward, to say yes before it.

I will say that there was shift in alignment. So the people that had said no had exited the company. And so Cody came when our new leadership came in. Cody said, hey, watch this tape. And they said, basically, why is this girl on here? Call her back, went back, auditioned, and then got the job the second time around. I think that I went through this really, really dark phase where I felt like another great loss

as I mentioned I know trauma way too well and so it felt like another loss in my life not because I didn't get a job but because something that I believed with certainty was not realized and so I was in the start space until I moved out of it and I reminded myself that I truly believe that everything in life is happening for me and nothing is happening to me. Everything in life is happening for me and nothing is happening to me. And if I didn't get the job, then I wasn't supposed to get the job and that was happening for me somehow and I would see it later.

You know, I'm so grateful now, just kind of like you just mentioned, I'm so grateful that I didn't get the job the first time around. I think that I started in at the right time. I don't know that we'd be having this conversation. I don't think that I'd be in this space. If I'd started any sooner than I did, I think I arrived at the exact, I exact right moment. And now to kind of circle back to where we started, this is, yeah, it's so hard to see the why when you're in it. But then whenever you meet the destination, and I say that in air quotes,

cause we never really meet the destination, we're always working. Whenever you meet that point, you're able to turn around, look behind you, and you get to see all the bridecrumbs. And then you start to connect all the points and the dots. And you realize that each point within the story had value and meaning, meaning whether this is doubt or uncertainty that you're having about your job like me or not getting a job or relationship relationship with the friend or relationship with your partner

When you're in the the thick of it the trauma of it if you will often times the trauma of it, if you will, oftentimes when we get to the destination, when we find our way out of it, we forget to look back and reflect on all the necessary points, the ups and downs, the missed opportunities that let us here. I think that when you're able to do that, to have gratitude for all the missed steps, then when you find yourself in a space of opportunity or uncertainty again, you remember, you go back to data. My life's data shows me that I always make it through everything. As my teammate head instructor, Robyn Arzon always says, you've made it through 100% of your bad days.

And when I make it through the other side of it, it's important to reflect so that, again, when you find yourself in a similar space, again, you're able to recall data. Data shows me that I make it through tough shit. Data shows me that I'm resilient. Data shows me that this is working in my favor, and I'm not, I don't see it right now, and I don't actually have to, because it's not for me to know yet, but I'll know it soon. I trust in that.

That's, I mean, where do you get this, where did that, that whole, it's happening for me, not to me, that kind of mindset? Where is that from? Have you always just been like that or is it just over time in what you've lost in life kind of shifted you to there? Yeah, I think all of it. I think that I knew pieces of it then, but didn't realize that I knew pieces of it then echoes of the past and form of future. When I reflect now, I think I've always had this mindset, but maybe I wasn't able to necessarily articulate it. Like I mentioned before, I would do anything to be with any one of my loved ones, even

for a moment. I would do anything, give up anything, to have 30 seconds with them, a second with them. And still, I know that I stepped into this version of myself, the greatest version of myself, and losing them. I realize how valuable, how much value there is in each breath, in each step, in each day, in each moment, even the days that suck are precious because there's value in it, because I got to have that day. I got to have that day. But that type of look and that type of mindset, it's that that's something that feels like it's been has to like how do people who they don't feel that way? How do they get to that place?

Right? Because it's like you you seem to have a lot of wisdom and you're young. I mean, who do you look to for like wisdom or what books do you read or who do you write Peloton with like what do you do? Who do you find? To be honest, I think a lot of it, my mindset, a lot of it comes from my mother, just my upbringing. When I'm in doubt, I remember to speak Surrender, Power, empathy, authenticity, and knowledge. Every single time I surrender, like really, really, really let go. Change comes in. When I am connected to my power, I think that power is purpose. Purpose is living a life of service,

in purpose, on purpose of purpose. When I lead with empathy, love for people. When I can let go of a situation because I have love for myself, when I'm true to myself, when I use all of the things that I've collected, I'm able to get from one space to the next. Speak, find your voice, trust your gut, get from where you are to where you want to be. I ask myself, how do I allow myself to let go when I'm in those moments?

How do I allow myself to let go? I'm not in control. I didn't get to control what happened, but I do get to control how I react. I think for me, it's that piece. It's that piece. OK, this has all been great. So basically, what? This was, thank you for being on the podcast.

And why don't we just kind of wrap it up and you tell us where people can find you besides peloton, of course, because we all know we can find you there. By the way, are you ever going to be doing like peloton treadmills or are you basically peloton bike in a strength training bike? Is there any kind of crossover for people who like the treadmill, not just the bike or? Yeah, I teach bike and I teach boot camp in strength classes. Look, if somebody wants to get up on the tread and run for me, I will gladly teach. I never say never, but right now I'm good. I have a really interesting relationship with running.

I hate the idea of running. And then the second it's over, I ever smell time, Joe, I'm like, that felt so good, I feel so great. And so yeah, I think that I'm just gonna leave running right now, this chapter in my life, I'm gonna leave that as my outlook outlet and not let that feel like work yet. So we'll see, I'll TBD. Okay, okay, good, good, good, good, because that's my thing,

I love the running, so I had to ask at least, right? Oh, I hosted the Pel good, good, good, because that's my thing. I love the running. So I had to ask at least, right? Oh, yeah. I have a, I hosted the Peloton podcast, which is called Fitness Flick. If you download this, this is like you can take this out or leave it, but it's a Peloton app and you can, so the podcast is like a moving podcast. So I'm talking, interviewing, different celebrity guests and you could walk and like get points for walking while you're or run While you're listening to podcast, which is really cool because then yeah, 30 minutes goes by so fast And you forget you were working out because you were listening to inside from whichever guest was on so shameless But it's not a shameless, but I actually I love I sort of that down. I didn't know you even have that. That's perfect

Yeah, I love that okay, so where else can people find you? What else do you do anything with Nike? Are you doing anything else that people can find you with? I know you or makeup I know you have a lot of great like great endorsements and sponsors, but is there anything Nike? Are you a master trainer with them or? I'm a Nike athlete. I'm their first instructor to ever be named Nike athlete, which is like When I say while the streams come true like I wouldn't even have even dreamt for that because it was so outside of the scope of what I even thought was possible. So that's really exciting. One of the faces of Reblon, which is really incredible, but you guys can find me at SpeakTuneA.com or at tune two, like the number two, Tune Day, Tune

Tune Day. I should be on Twitter and the TikTok and all the things that Gen Z does, but I'm like, I'm gonna work in progress in a right now Instagram and kind of face stuff is what I do sometimes. I love it. That's a lot. That's a full-time job right there. Hey, isn't it? Oh my god, is it ever. Why would you do the Instagram and all that? Of course, I do a lot of Instagram. I'm on TikTok. But mostly Instagram is the one I'm super strong on. Facebook, I just can't even bother. I mean, I just have just too busy. I have that now. The YouTube, I mean, every day there's a new platform

that people are like, you have to be doing, you've got to be going on there. I just started with the TikTok four or five months ago. And thankfully it's going okay. But I got got to tell you like each one of these like each vertical takes up an enormous amount of time right right so it's a lot It's a lot, you know and with your book tour But I almost done with all of this because I mean I'm sure you don't yeah, we just wrapped on the book tour It was incredible like insanely incredible to meet all the people.

Well, many of the people on the other side of the screen and so rewarding. Like I felt like so snourished. Very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very great thing. Oh, I wanted to ask you, how many people can you actually see

when you're doing your peloton? How many people physically are you able to see? Because you probably don't face it? Yeah, they're faces. Nobody. Nobody at all, right? Because there are other places that you can see.

I'm always so concerned that I can see them when I'm teaching class. If you were in a live class, I could see your stats. But I have no time to do that, I can't breathe, I'm sweating and I'm sweating my eye and I'm trying to like talk until people, tell people it's next. I have to like push buttons and do all of that

to see what anybody's doing. Nobody has time for that. So nobody's looking at your stuff. What's amazing to me, nobody, like everyone knows you, but you don't know anybody. So it is so crazy to me, right? It is, I do.

It's wild. I mean, I think that the members understand it. There's such a connectivity. I've seen people that are not only best friends, there have been people that have met on the leaderboard and literally got married. There are people that fly and have meetups annually a few times a year even.

There's, it's, we ride together, but truly, we're not alone. Like, it's a cold connected business for a reason. There's so much connectivity in it. When I left the mom and pop studio in LA to work for Peloton, that's what I was most fearful of that I would not be able to connect. And that's why I got into this business.

And I was wildly, I was proven wrong. I was proven wrong, yeah, I was so much connection. You'd be amazed. It is, no, I'm not, I'm amazed actually, because like I said, everyone in my life is addicted to Peloton, but me. So it's amazing that this is even ironic that I'm doing this interview with you.

So I, I, I, I, I, we've got to go on there. I know, I know. I have been doing the strength training a little bit here and there, but, um, okay. I'm more about the treadmill and about hardcore weights. And, but I will now that I have, now that we did this, I'm, I'm now like drawn to try this class, a class of yours. So there we go. You converted to another person.

There you go. Yeah. Maybe if I tell you say to a hotel, you'll see a bike or maybe you'll go to your nameless house and ask her to use her bike. I have a bike. What are you talking about? I mean, I'm not a gosh woman.

Yeah, I'm not there. There's no excuse. There's no excuse. Honestly. Yeah. So no, no, no, there's no excuse. So I know you're going to wrap it. So I will talk to you later, or I'll see you later or talk later. But again, it was a pleasure meeting you. Thank you for being

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