Habits and Hustle - Episode 185: Sam Morril – Stand-Up Comedian, Actor, Writer, and Producer

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Pre-order Jen’s New Book: Bigger, Better, Bolder today: https://amzn.to/3hvtqYp Sam Morril is a Stand-Up Comedian, Actor, Writer, and Producer. Coming off of his new Netflix special, “Same Time Tomorrow”, Sam graces us with his low, gruff New York voice and dark sense of humor. A real comedians comedian they say. His style is jokes. Limited long-winded anecdotes, no hour-long thesis statements, but jokes, and he’s absolutely as funny as his 20 some years of doing stand-up would lead you to believe. Discussing his disdain for the “tortured comedian” trope, his interview with David Letterman, his appreciation for coming up before TikTok, cancel culture, and more Sam is a dynamic voice in the comedy scene who’s taken his time honing his craft, and he’s just getting started. If you love comedy or just love hearing the story of a grounded hard-working person making success for himself in an impossible industry, this one is for you! It’s a riot! Don’t miss it! Youtube Link to This Episode Sam’s Website – https://www.sammorril.com/ Sam’s Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/sammorril/ ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I got this Tony Robbins, you're listening to Habits in Hustle, fresh it. Pressure! on the podcast. He is so funny, he is so witty, he is so quick. I am obsessed with his sense of humor. And you guys, he has a new Netflix special out to right now that's crushing it. He also released his own special on YouTube about a year and a half ago and it already has over 11 million views. Everywhere I go, people are now saying his name to me which is really funny I feel like he's just like bursting now and by next year everyone will know this guy's name please listen to this podcast you guys are going to love it enjoy. Today we have Sam Morrell on the podcast who is amazing comic who I you're amazing. I know I'm extra happy to be here. Yeah, right? You got that you got the basketball hoop outside you got the pool you got the you've a treadmill like every room your apartment

It's a different exercise a lot. I do exercise a lot. That's kind of what my that's my whole stick I am my background is exercise, but and it is like the decor. People, some people collect jewelry, I just collect treadmills. That's kind of what I do. Yeah, it looks nice, it's a nice treadmill. Thank you, it's a wood way. They're all wood ways, by the way, which are the best kind of treadmills.

Do you work out at all? I mean, I do it for a different reason than you do it. Why do you do it? To sweat out, to mental out. Yeah, but just to just to not get gross. Like, well, why would you be gross unless you're just drinking all the time? You mean mental But mentally gross You're always doing maintenance, you know like and also I've like had injuries and stuff

So you just try to like maintenance to make sure you don't get injured. Yeah, well, I mean It's not like I'm working out these days to be To win any competitions. I'm just doing it for my Newton competitions. No, I never did competitions, but I it's really funny Because I know you don't know anything about my background like that, but I wrote a bunch of books in the health and fitness space. I would do like, I've been on a few different covers

of different magazines in the fitness space, stuff like that. I was a trainer for a long time, so that was like kind of my beginning a little bit. Sure. And then, so yeah, so fitness is a major foundation of mine. So that's why. But now I do it for more of my mental health

and more just because I really just, I'm a guy burping up gin on a mario treadmill on the road. That's my fitness. You're trying to flesh out the toxins of your body. That's basically. Working out really is like, that's like the best hangover cure. Other than maybe an IV drip or something.

The IV trips don't always work number one, but I feel like you can pee out a lot of the vitamins and my friend who I'm very close doctor A, but he's going to kill me because he's a very close friend of mine. He'll actually give you a drip if you want one. Really? Absolutely. Whenever you want. Whenever you want one.

I'll arrange it for you like doctor A. I'm going to call you right after this podcast. What? You should abuse it. You should. Give me Abe's info. I'm gonna give it to you. We'll call him after the show.

He'll be more than happy to go to your, he's a constier's doctor. Love it. And he like takes care of everybody. I'm telling you all the big, all the big ones that you know, you name them, that's probably his client. I'm poms. Okay, so my point when I was gonna say is the fitness part is great because of the

you can't sweat out all your, of course, your toxins, whatever. But it's just great for your overall mental health and just to kind of keep you. Absolutely. You know, sharp and focused. I do feel like sometimes I go to the gym and I just say I come up with material because my mom is awake again. So, you know, I absolutely, first of all, it's also, it's a feeding ground for like great material. Watching all those people, doing all sorts of cookie things,

and, you know, it's like a pickup, I mean, not so much in the last couple of years with COVID, but like before and now coming back, it's very much a great feeding, a breeding ground I should say for that. Yeah, no, it's, there's a gym in my bed. I'm like in an old person building in Upper West west side and like there's all these old people and And I'm gonna type of building where they're like even pre-COVID like you're not allowed to have a trainer

And I'm like I'm not gonna go if I don't have someone pushing me really they were like why some old school bullshit I don't know then they were like you can only the guy so the old people when they were like passive aggressively like You know, there's a rule here like I don't care But like you know And then like did you talk to the building and I'm just like yeah, yeah, of course Eventually I was like I'll just talk to the building. It's like yeah, it's fine Are you an a fancy like like Gigi building? It's like it's for like a gym dorm and building. It's like as low-end as you could get really really

Yeah, yeah, All right. Well how big is your space at your apartment? Small. I'm gonna move. Well, they're like 300 square feet is like 10,000. No, it's not that small. Well, how big is it? 575. Okay, you're like you're like you're like scoring me for the 300 square feet. Me all five hundred not that much. I'm sorry backyard pool basketball hoop. This is typical for, well, no, it's not that typical ballet. No, this is an L.A. I've seen L.A. places is solid. Thank you.

No, I'm going to move soon. I'm looking to places. It's a process, but have you always, like, you're, so let me just say this because I just kind of jumped right in. But like, so Sam, I saw him on, I saw him on this special with David Letterman. I knew within 10 seconds that you are hilarious, but you're gonna be, he's very much like, as we speak, he's like really gaining momentum

and you're gonna be massive. I feel you're gonna be the next Sebastian. Well, it's so different. I mean, he's a matter. You're great. Thank you. Yeah, I gotta get in like the next Scorsese movie. That's the plan. You're great. Thank you. Yeah, he's a, yeah, I gotta get in like the next Gorsese movie.

That's the plan. Well, try. I mean, I think it's, you're in the Joker movie. For like I said, I'm very briefly in it. Yeah. Okay, but you still work. How did you get into that movie? Todd Phillips called me, the director.

He's a really cool guy. And Todd's background is in comedy, so he really likes comedians. Yeah. I mean, Todd was discovered by Ivan Reitman, who just passed away. He was? Yeah, Ivan Reitman discovered him, and then I think helped him with his first movie, and I believe helped produce Road Trip, which was his first big comedy.

And then Todd made Old School the Hangover, made huge comedies. Mass as in. Amazing mainstream comedies. Yeah, and he just like called me. I was like, I thought, you know, when someone like that calls you, you were like, all right dude, I'm sure it's Todd Phillips.

And then my, it's just like, which really him, I was like, oh shit. All right. And then, yeah, he was just like, really like a comedy. And I love for you to be in this. And I was like, and then I see the role and it's like open micro comedian.

I'm like, God damn it, I'm an open micro. And it's like, I had to ask him like, hey, do you want me to like suck? Cause I'm playing, God damn it, I'm an open-micro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to ask him, like, hey, do you want me to suck? Because I'm playing open-micro. Right, of course. And he goes, well, you're gonna be Sam. So do whatever you want. Well, I'm not gonna suck with my material.

Absolutely. I'm going up with like good jokes. So I'll be the funny guy at the open-micro. And he was like, that's fine. And I was like, all right. So I was just like 15 different takes and maybe more. And it was like, I'm gonna do, it's an audience. I'm doing a different joke every take.

I wanna repeat material. So he's like, just make sure it would work in the 80s because the movie's in the 80s. So he's like, no cell phone jokes or anything. And only one joke was he like, don't do that again. But joke was it. I like the joke is like, it's a weird one to tell here because it's like, I got like,

it's one of my few jokes where I can have an act out, but I say, you know, my ex would always say, like, you made me come, like, she gave me credit for the orgasm. So she's like, I'm about to come, and I'd be like, cool. And then she'd be like, stay completely still, and I'd be like, all right, and then she'd be like, you just made me come.

And I'd be like, are you sure? Because it feels like I played that with an erection, you know, like, made you, and so the joke would be like, that's like if you went to the barber shop and I'm like, can you hold the buzzer like right here? And then you just like move your head around. I'm like, you're the best, I've ever,

not a great joke for an audio podcast, but you get the gist. And- This is not an audio podcast, I said that YouTube is growing. It's new. Yeah, it's growing. It's growing.

You were like teasers, a lot of video comes from it, from TikTok, a lot of stuff on TikTok. Yeah, well, so that came about, and then, you know, we did like a lot of teasers, a lot of video comes from it, from TikTok, a lot of stuff on TikTok. Yeah, well, so that's how that came about. And then we did a bunch of takes, and yeah, he was, Todd was so nice, and then walking Phoenix, I'm like the guy who goes on before him, so he's creeping in the room, and then there's one point where he's just like,

I'm not gonna, but I don't know what his process is. He seems like an intense. Very. You know, actor, and I don't wanna, I'm like, I'm fucking but I don't know what his process is. He seems like an intense. Very. You know, actor and I don't wanna, I'm like, I'm fucking, I don't belong here. This is so stupid. And we're in this club Dangerfield, which is no longer there anymore.

But when we shot it, you know. Where is it anyway? It was on like 59th and I don't know, like first or something. It was far east. It was, I mean, they used to shoot great specials there. That's where like, you know, the old Rodney Dangerfield. I love Rodney Dangerfield. Me too.

It was like one of my favorite comedians of all time, but they would shoot the old specials where it's like, you know, Jerry Seinfeld, Sam Kennisin, Bill Hicks, like all the legendary sets. And I remember he would give funny intros. So he'd be like, Bill Hicks, he'd be like, this next comic he's so far ahead of his time. His parents haven't even met yet So he'd be like Bill Hicks, he'd be like, this next comic, he's so far ahead of his time as parents haven't even met yet,

given a for Bill Hicks, everybody. Like funny in the intros of comics. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I love Rodney, so, but I never worked that club. They were always, it was always kind of a shitty club. Wow, really? Yeah, they never took, apparently Rodney was like,

he would do drugs at other people. He'd say, I'm not doing drugs in my club. I'll do drugs at the comic strip or something. Right. But I remember going there and be like, this club sucks. Really? And it's like clothes, I guess.

They just didn't really respect comics. They would do weird shit where you like, you'd go on stage and there'd be like six people in the crowd and they'd do like, do 25 minutes. I'm like, for six people. And I'm like, all right. So I remember I'm on stage and I was just bombing there for six people and I watched them walk three more people into the room and I'm like, all right. So I remember on my stage, I went just bombing there for six people.

And I watched them walk three more people into the room and I'm like, all right, we got nine. And then they sit down and they gave me like one joke and they were like, nah, they just walked out. Really? Yeah, it was brutal. Isn't that hard though, for a comic? That can, like, when you get heckled or boot

or when people don't, like, when you feel the energy off of a crowd and it's not going well, like, how do you kind of maintain that, how do you keep on going? It's like so, isn't it demoralizing and like difficult? You just get numb. I mean, like, it doesn't, like, none of it matters really. When you're young and it's like six people in your body

and it's pretty painful because you're like, you just don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. But when, now when it goes badly, I'm more just like, either upset with myself or like, why did I fail to connect? But I mean, now when they're bad or you're heckled

or something, the audience is usually on my side already, it's almost like a built in unfair advantage before it was like an unfair in the other way because I remember having a build material, now people pay decent money for the tickets, but I remember when I was starting out, you're doing these clubs with like free, they're giving away tickets

just to make sure that they're moving drinks. Yeah, right, exactly. And these people don't give a shit about you, and they're kind of like, prove it, prove your funny right now. And when you go in with that attitude, it can be tough sometimes to take risks and build an act. So you have to keep turning over. I'm like, I don't know how I built an act that way. It's very hard, you know.

So wait, so let's go back for two seconds. So did you ever meet Wookiee and Phil? Like, did you ever get to meet him? Yeah, we chaffled a little bit. No, he was so nice. He was so normal. Normal and warm and friendly and like, like a regular person. Because he's like, I've heard he's like so like intense and... Yeah, but I think he just takes what he does seriously He was so warm. I mean he I kept doing bits and he was like I really like your comedy I was like and I was like I was like, oh, you're pretty good. We do No, no, and then he was like

He was like, you know, a lot of comics. There's like a desperation You know, and you're just trying to be funny. You're just like not trying to be like weird You're just trying to and I'm like literally like you're just trying to be funny. You're just not trying to be weird, you're just trying to, and I'm literally like, you're playing the Joker. Yeah, I know more weird characters. There's nothing weirder. But oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he was awesome. Did you get, from that experience,

did it kind of help propel your career? Like, what did it do for you? Did it do anything? I got, it was just a cool thing. I don't know, I don't know if it propelled anything. Yeah, I think it was like a thing where people were like, holy shit, you're in the joke. But like, no, I think what gets people out in the road

is like stand up clips and they're like, I've seen you be funny before. But it was so cool that Todd used a joke of mine that hits. Like, it's a joke that people like. So he used that joke where you're like, I mean, I see people, it's like man, the internet's brutal. Cause you see people steal on your joke. Like some British kid playing a video game.

And he's like, he's like, you know, he's doing more in this voice. Like, you know, the joke would be like, you know, women, I look at sex like men look at sex like parking. No, women look at sex like buying a car, you're like, is it safe? Can I see myself in a long term? You know, will it kill me?

And I say, man, look at sex like parking a car, but like, there's a spot. There's another spot. I have to pay, never mind. And handicapped, we'll see. Or I say hope no one sees this after handicapped. So that joking youth, and I just see British kids like on TikTok playing video games,

like women look at sex like, you know. And they call it like, and then people like, this jokes hilarious, but then you get your like diehard fans, you're like, fuck you, you piece of shit. That should, that's happened a lot, but you can't control that, right? Like it happens in any area or anything.

I just got a text from a friend and she was like, this is your joke. You posted that. Yeah, my friend texted to me and I was like, she should post, I was like, all right. I'm gonna post it. It's true, but so, okay, I want to add, I've got so many questions for you.

So my first- No one cares about intellectual property theft There's not a thing that anyone cares about because most people when you like a thing on social media You're like like move on never think about it again, but someone put work into that thought And that joke and we and we you know we hone jokes and clubs trying to get jokes to work And those people who just do that will never know the satisfaction of cracking the joke And it is satisfying. I'm sure. So then how do you like, what is just the case?

So you're 35, right? How long have you been a comedian for or doing stand up for? I mean, like my whole life, honest. So I started like 18. So, um, were you always funny? I was funny in a way, like not like, look at this, look at this. Fuck you guy. Like I wasn't funny like that.

I was funny in a way like I was trying to, I thought it was like cool to be like, you know, clever, a way. Like I was trying to, I thought it was like cool to be like clever or witty. So I was trying to, in class, I try to make a funny joke. Like that was my sense of humor was like, you know, you go from like trying to make a class made a laugh to then maybe like 11th grade, you're like, kind of make the teachers laugh. Like I want to make the adults laugh, you know?

So I think at first the teachers like, fuck this guy. And then by the end they were like, he's kind of fun. I remember we did a thing, we do community service for senior year. What kind of school did you go to? It was like an all-boys school on the Upper East Side. Okay. And we had to do community service

and then do a presentation, small school. And I turned that community service into then do a presentation, small school. And, you know, I turned that community service into a standup routine. I was like, I really want to be a comic. I love standup and it killed, like it really killed. But to the point like, it was a false sense of security because they already like me. They wanted me to be fun.

They thought I was funny as a person. So they were rooting for me to succeed, whereas then you start doing open mics and these people were like, you fucking suck. Well, that's all. Also, I feel like you're like, I don't know yet, but the evolution of you. Normally, when I had, like most comics I know,

they come from a very dark background or dark place and that's how they get. No, we all have our stuff. Like, you remind me of a guy with a, like what I would to heist like it's some Jewish camp I went to heist, you know what I mean? Like some like guy that I knew from camp, Ramal or from my private school. I think that's necessarily true. I, you know, I think, uh,

not because you do Jewish jokes, but because you just seem like just like a nice guy who just like is like you, like you said, sarcastic, funny. What's a cliche, though? Like every comic has to be this morbid fucking mess. You know, is it a cliche? Yeah, I think so. I think like why does every comic like there can there are different. I think you need to just be who you are. Yeah. And if you're either funny or you're not like I don't like the idea that I have to be some like brooding dude and a leather jacket on stage.

Like society's fucked. That's not who I am. I'm a guy who's like, I think it's cool to be like the funny guy in the room. I got in a comedy because it's like Rodney Dangerfield, you know, and Sandler movies when I was a kid. I was like, he's so silly, you know? Like, I got it more like,

comics were like the tension breakers and the disruptors to me were, you know, Rodney's the guy who walks in like the country club and is like, look at these fucking jerk offs. Like that was that character and I was like, hell yeah, that's the guy, everyone's like snooty and he's mocking them. You know, and Sandler was the same way.

I'd watch those movies as a kid and then I really got in a standup and you know, David Tell in New York was so influential for me because he was so witty and like brilliant. And but he had this quality where you could connect to any audience. And I was like, this is like what comedy is, you know?

And like, you know, uh, gradual, though, was so big for me when I was, you know, when I was, you know, I loved, I loved that they seemed like smart, but they were also humble and never, uh, never condescending to a crowd. Like, my goal was like, I'm an entertainer, I'm not, that's all I am. I'm here to make you laugh. And I like, the road for me is like the truth.

Like, if you don't do the roads of comic, you're not going to be that good to comic. Right. If you can't take this shit to Columbus, Ohio, and Dallas, Texas, and Raleigh, and Florida, if you've not taken it all over the country, you're missing out. That's how you kind of hone and perfect a new hour of material. Well, how else do people do it if they didn't do that?

They get a deal, like a darling deal with the network and they're just like, I got, I'll figure it out. But how, like, I mean, do you remember, have you ever done, I'm Canadian? And there's a thing from Wendipag originally than Toronto. Big, Jew population, Wendipag. How do you know? Cause I've been, I'm a. And there's a thing from Winnipeg originally than Toronto. Big Jew population, Winnipeg. How do you know?

Cause I've been, I'm a Victorian comedian. So you've been to Winnipeg? Sure. Really? Yeah. What do you think this is a fucking game? I put in my work. You know Tyler?

First of all, wait, is rumor still, I haven't been to Winnipeg in like 20 years, but I moved to Toronto. Really young. Great city. And then Montreal, by found as a Montreal. But. Good bagels. Great bagels. Different in New York, we don't have to compete.

Yeah, no, no, no. It's like F-scots for Gerald and Hemingway. You can appreciate both. We don't have to come, you know, because why? Because they're sweeter and because they're like. Chewy and there. There's thinner and chewier, I think.

I think they're better. I'm a New York bagel guy, but I love the Montreal bagel. They can be both good for me, but I'm used to Montreal bagels. I like them better, but I get- I love the Montreal bagel. The Montreal food is next level.

It's great because it's very eclectic. There's a lot of diversity, culture. But Toronto too is really good. I prefer Toronto, it's just overall, but... So you're winding down with the podcast. Sounds like you have no plans to leave the couch tonight. Nope, you just want to unzip your jeans, slip on a pair of fuzzy slippers, and rip open a bag of skinny pop popcorn, because the only place you're going tonight is the bottom of this bag of popcorn. Vitamin water just dropped a new zero-sugar flavor called with love.

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Is that even still around? You still go there? I haven't been there forever, but I played there. Yeah, I... Where did you play in Toronto? I just did a small theater. I forgot the name. Bluma, a pale theater. I haven't been there forever, but I played there. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I just did a small theater. I forgot the name, Bluma, a Pell theater. I don't know.

That was great. We did a couple shows. It was awesome. Oh, we got delayed like six hours on the way back. I was a part of the just for laughs festival. That's what that's what I was gonna ask you. Have you done the just for laughs? Of course, many times.

Yeah, and they were like, they do this thing with the like, we're gonna set up the car service. It's the car will get you three hours before I was like, yeah, we got like TSA pre and global entry. We don't need the three hours. Like, well, we can't move the car. So we're like, all right, fine, three hours early. Then the flight is like six hours. So we're there like eight hours. Oh, I know. I just got back from Montreal five days ago. And it was, it was going on there with the travelers and saying over there.

But the just for lasting, so did you, I was gonna say earlier that people would go there, they would perform in front of all the managers and agents and then they would hopefully get like a, this was back like 10 years ago. Even more, you get a deal on like the 90s. Yeah, 15 years ago or no, like early 2000s. A long time ago.

I used to work at GR. By the time I went there, they were like, you might get a manager. Maybe. Yeah, you might get a manager. Yeah. Okay, so that's how I, okay, so I worked at Michael Rotenberg as Canadian. Okay. He sponsored my visa. That was my first real job in the US. Wow. And yeah, and I worked for a guy. His name is not Dave Becky, because that's, he's also at three weeks. I know her that, yeah. He works with Michael. But it was, he had red hair and he would wrap. I hear the Canadian by the way,

and I put it here. I put it here. Right here. And about. About, yeah. He wrapped Janine Garofalo. If you say his name, Wrath, Dave Wrath.

I know Dave well. Is he still around? Very good. He's such a nice guy. I love Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So that was like a real kid, like a baby, baby.

And I lasted like eight days of that job. Yeah. It was an awful job. Like rolling calls and I was like an assistant to the manager because I was going to, the idea was that's going to be a comedy manager. I guess it's a whole other story of my life. Couldn't stand that world. But that's, I love the comic part.

But my point is- I just picked you taking calls on the treadmill. Like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's like the most show-based thing I can picture. Someone with like a tower on their neck on the treadmill. It's basically like, yeah.

But that's, it was a shitty job. It was a worse job. I lasted seven days and I went to Dave and I was like, this is not for me. I'm not gonna be doing this. He's like, I thought you're going to. I've known Dave a long time. He's a really nice guy. Who are his clients now? I don't know. So clearly you're not with three arts. I haven't had a manager in many years. I don't really think they do much. I mean, they were taking a lot of money and they weren't really doing anything. So I was like, my agents are great,

but I don't really, I don't really feel the need for a manager. So why are people paying like the manager 20, like they're paying them and the agent? Like you left with nothing then, if you have both. It's a good question for them. I don't know. But your agent you like. I think some people look at it like taxes, like it's a necessary thing that you just have to do.

But I, I was like, you're not moving the needle for me. They'd bring it, they'd be like, you should try TikTok. I'm like, yeah, I'm on fucking TikTok. You don't know. They'd be like stuff like you should try this. And I'd be like, you, you don't know any like if there was a manager who could have some social media influence, I'd be like, all right, if you provide value, if you're bringing in opportunity, but it's a lot of like, we guide your career. And I'm like, I know older comics, they can like guide me, they can tell me what to do.

And then the agents are great, they get me a ton of shit and they keep me working and they, you know. But it's hard to get, this is what I was getting at. So you work out your reps obviously by going around the country constantly. And that's how you know what works, what doesn't work. But even to get a manager in your business, isn't it really hard? There's so many people Yeah, right? So, and that's how you know what works, what doesn't work. Yeah. But even to like, like, to get a manager in your business, isn't it really hard? There's so many people like, how do you stand out? Like, how do you like, you do it like, like what you said, the just your last festival, as you get seen a festival, as you try to wow them at a festival, the thing is whenever

you bring up someone to your reps, you're like, you got to see this person, they're like, I'm good. Because they want to discover them. Of course. They don't want to be told like, you got to see this person, they want to be like, want to discover them. Of course. They don't want to be told, like, you got to see this person, they want to be like, they want to be like, I just fucking discovered this dude. Right.

But who discover, who takes credit for you? Oh, geez. I mean, some, I have no idea who takes credit for me. I don't know. I've had many, I've had many managers and agents in my life. How long has this agent been around for? A couple years. Okay.

And so have they done a lot of good, they've helped you a lot? They're great. But it's kind of like a weird, kind of like chicken or the, you need to be at a certain level, successful enough to even get the agent, right? You always talk younger comics,

like just focus on being good and the other stuff will come. It's like you can't think about outside stuff. I understand it's like very, it can be overwhelming and you can look at other people getting stuff and you could get, you could panically, why not me? But the truth is like, are you in this for life? Well, then that person who does this might come right back down and you might do that slow climb and you might have a longer, more interesting career. Right, actually, that's true.

So then, what was your thing? So you said you were in school, blah, blah, blah. You learned you wanted to be a stand-up. So what did you do? So what was your first thing? So. First, like, gig that really changed my life was I won a festival in Atlanta called the Laughing School

Festival and the prize was a year worth of road work. And I think, so they kind of had to book me at clubs for a year. That was the prize was a year worth of road work. And I think so they kind of had to book me at clubs for a year That was the prize like all these bookers were at the festival So they were like, okay, you're either the opening actor the headliner at every one of these clubs for a year So I was just like working. I was like, wow, I'm just like a working comic with you know a lot of these gigs Sock, but they put hair in your chest problem is when when you're doing bad gigs, is you get like a temper, because you're being disrespected so much. Like you're doing so many gigs

where people are just like talking through your set or calling you. And you're just like, so now you're like a dog that like an owner used to beat, and you're just like biting people for no reason. So I was just like, you know, I'd be in like an okay crowd and someone like you to your glass,

and they'd be like, fuck you and they'd be like, what a big sorry. I just, I was just in Reno all weekend, sorry. That's, with fuck you and they'd be like, what a bit, sorry. I just, Right, right, right. It was just in Reno all weekend, sorry. That's, I was gonna say, was there an audience that's better than others

and what, like, is there a city or would you pay? Yeah, certain cities are great. Yeah, when a pet crowd was good, although, damn, I do remember, like, you know, Madison was Constance, like one of the best clubs in the country. Concentrate.

Really? Why? And there's a weird combination of like, my friend always says this, like blue city red state. That's what you want. You get a nice mix of everybody. That's true, yeah. Yeah, man, the club is well run.

It's great. Geez, there's so many good clubs. I'm trying to think what else. I mean, certain cities. Well, how many days a year are you traveling? So many. Like how many? How many a month?? So many. Like, how many? How many a month?

More every weekend, I'm pretty much gone, and then like, sometimes in between, you got to do stuff. So like, I'm out for like, right now, it's been like, I've been out for like, uh, about eight days or so. So how many days a month would you say you're traveling? And at least 15, 14? Probably. So how do you have?

Makes you appreciate New York. Uh, well, I, well, any place you live, what do you mean? Yeah, 15, 14. Probably. So how do you have? Makes you appreciate New York. Well, any place you live, what do you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, makes you appreciate home. Like you're like, you know, you do a weekend and like Wilmington, Delaware, and then you're like, New York's a good fucking city. Right, right, right. You're seeing all the like armpits of everywhere.

Yeah, a lot of armpits. A lot of armpits, right? So then like, so what did it, because of that? Anywhere is cool for like three nights, honestly, or two nights, anything is cool. But it's not two nights, right? Because you're doing two nights all the time, like two nights what did it? Because it was. Anywhere is cool for like three nights, honest, or two nights. Anything is cool. But it's not two nights, right? Because you're doing two nights all the time.

Like two nights now, two nights again. I know, there are different two nights again. You can find stuff to do. Like, I try to, I try to live like the way Bourdain did, minus the very end, obviously. Yes, obviously. But like the way he would do the road, right? Well, he would just kind of appreciate.

Where he in. He would really find the good in every city, and I found that inspiring, you know? You seem like it's such a, I can't get over how like, Peppy you seem to be for a comedian. Really? I mean, I've got my shit.

Everyone's got theirs. I mean, like, I've never been called Peppy in my life, but maybe to like a famous person, I'm Peppy, where you're like, oh, I thought you'd be horrible. But amongst comics, I've no one's ever been like, you're a Peppy guy. Well, I'm not gonna, like you're not like mis-Mr. Congeniality, necessarily.

But you, but like, I feel like you're someone I would have like gone to school with and grown up with or hang out with. Like you seem like you have like a pretty solid normal life and like you would have, like I said, like you have one day you were like, okay, I think I wanna do stand up and you seem pretty confident. Like you don't seem like you've had to work out

a lot of insecurity or like- I've been through a few many years. I've got issues. I just, you know, I'm like- Do you talk about your issues a lot in your comedy? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I'm definitely regressed a little bit

as a human in the last year or so. I mean, like, you know, you go through a breakup and you just kind of regress a little bit, you got to heal and deal with shit. And I think, I didn't bring it up, but could you tell me not to bring it up? Yeah, but I mean, I brought it up. It's all right. I mean, we're fine. It's just, you know, you do that. And then you're kind of like, it's hard to heal on the road. Like, no one's ever been like, oh, you're in pain, go to Buffalo. Go away from home. So it's like, yeah, you've got to work on stuff.

You've got to have a good foundation. I bring my friend Gary is on the road with me a lot. Gary who? Vita, really funny comic. You love him. One of my best friends, since we started and open mics together. So I mean, he's one of my oldest friends. So he's a good influence. But no, I've got my shit. My parents are supportive. Though I'm good

terms with my parents, you know, and I have a, I'm very fortunate. I'm very, I try to remember when things are bad. Like, it's okay to have gratitude. It's okay to, you know, a lot of comics, like, think there's nothing funny about. It's okay to, you know, a lot of comics, like, think there's nothing funny about them. Like, no, you'll find funny shit. You don't have to be miserable. There's other stuff there. And I think positivity, if I don't have that,

I will sink. So I need to force a little bit of it. Was this the first, you went out with Taylor Tomlinson with the girl for his referring to? Was this the first comic you ever dated? No, I've done it before. Oh, you have. Funny women are cool.

I mean, it's like, I'm attracted to a smart funny woman, for sure. And so, like, so then you're not like, you're not disenchanted, you'll date another comic if you meet them. I have probably not, honestly. It's painful when it's like you're in the industry. Yeah, because you just, you have to see them for the rest of your life. Right. But that being said, I care about it very much.

I wanted to do great. You know, it's a- She is doing great, right? She is, yeah. But it must be strange, right? Because it's like you see it all the time. You hear about them all the time. It's not like she's an accountant in your, you know,

like it's always a past cross. That's the next one in the accountant. Yeah, I mean, maybe I, I don't know, but that one, but, you know, yeah, it's, it's strange. It's a strange, it's a strange life. It's you're just like, all right, I mean, you get to connect on this deep level, but you, you run a risk, you know, of it ending. Well, like, even if it's like, not even talking about her specifically in general, level, but you run a risk of it ending. Well, even if it's not even talking about her specifically, in general, you have a lot in common, you can practice each other's bits on each other, I guess, right, and whatever else.

Do you guys help each other write stuff or? I mean, every once in a while, yeah, we run a bit here and there, sure. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you kind, the thing is like, you kinda have a friend you already do that with. But yeah, we would do that sometimes. Do you have other writing partners that help you?

I would say like partners, but yeah. I have friends who I text, like, hey, is this bit been done or like, hey, do you wanna hop on a Zoom? Just, you almost doing it more to just talk it out to a friend, yeah. I need to talk this bit out. So you just kinda say the joke to your friend,

you see how they react. And you're like, oh, this guy's got a bit kind of similar. And you're like, what if I did this, that difference? Like, that's a different bit, you know? Or like, you just kind of do, uh, yeah, you have those, it's also surrounding yourself. Like, you say, like, I'm positive. Like, I surround myself with like, friends who are pretty driven.

Yeah. And funny. And that pushes you in a great way like you oh my God so many of my friends like you know Joe Liss or Mark Norman or like those guys who like you know really write a lot and the first guy you said Joe Liss Joe Liss. He's got a new movie out called Fourth of July it's great. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah. Name me some other ones that you think are really really good. They're like close to my I mean Phil Hanley's one of my best friend Rachel fine signs one of my best friends

No, yeah, she's funny. Yeah, she's like assisted to me. I mean we're very close Do you like do you know Eliza? What's her last name? Yes, I don't know her really but I've met her I don't know her really she seems really funny to she is funny. I mean you're a Jewish woman really funny too. She is funny. I mean you're a Jewish woman so that's why I'm really funny. But my favorite I think is Bill Burr by his my favorite. I saw that. Bill is like the coolest man. I opened from a college when I was at Tulane. He has been went to Tulane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly. All the Jews go there. Did you go for your undergrad or did you go for your... Yeah, I went for like a year and a half. Oh, you didn't finish.

I didn't finish it too. I finished in New York, but I... Where in New York did you finish? NYU. NYU. Yeah, all of the two ladies. You do that with almost any school. Yeah, he really did.

It's not that hard. But then... Is it hilarious? That wasn't that good. I think you give me too much credit for that one. That was nothing. Doesn't need a layer or something like that. That wasn't that good. That was nothing. That was nothing. Doesn't mean hilarious. I'm like, that was pretty standard. No, no, no, it was not. But I will say you are very good. Very good. Yeah, Bill came to school and I was like 19. I stole the picture of us. And I was such a big fan of his. I was like,

oh man, like even back then, I thought he was so funny. And I looked up to him a lot. And you can't remember. remember was like the day that God forgot the guy's name is a Yankees pitcher who like crashed a helicopter in a building in Midtown and Bill was like, did you hear about that? And I said like, yeah, I thought you were a Red Sox fan. He was not that big of a Red Sox fan. It's like classic Burvoy. He's like, my that big of fucking Red Sox fan.

But he was so nice to me. It meant so much to me. He was so, when you're a young comic and you look up to someone, it's like, it goes such a long way. And we were on Conan together like 10 years later. And I didn't see him since then. I very much steered clear of guys I respect

because I just was like, let me just get good in the shadows. And they'll see me when I'm good. I don't want them to see me when I'm, I know I'm not good yet. I know this takes time. That's why I love the road, because I could fail. Bill Burr actually calls it, I've told him this, like how I quote him on this all the time.

But I'm like, he calls it a killing and obscurity. You get good killing in like Des Moines, Iowa or something. So no one sees you except the people in Des Moines, Iowa. You know, now everyone is like posting every clip on social media, even brand new comics, but they didn't have that when I was a new comic. Thank God for me, because I wasn't good. Right. So, I mean, I understood joke structure, but you know, you kind of just start killing in these weird cities and you're like, I'm figuring this out. So, yeah, I remember doing

Conan with Bill Burr and he was so fucking funny. I remember it was like the craziest lineup. I've done late night sets before, but the lineup was like, it was like Bill Hader, Bill Burr, and then me. I was like, this is like insane. There's like two of my favorite comedians. That's incredible. Uh, and they're both so freaking cool. I mean, uh, but I remember talking to me.

He's like, where do I know you from? I was like, I just have one of the faces. You know, it's like what you said. You're like, you remind me of a guy with the college where I'm like, no, you don't remind. It's like 10 years ago. And he's like, where do I know you from? I was like, I just have one of those faces. It's like what you said. You're like, you remind me of a guy with a college where they're like, nah, you don't remember. It's like 10 years ago. And he's like, all right. But now I'm, but now we know him.

And he's, so is he like the, I feel like he's like, the comedian's comedian. Like I think all the comics love him too. Like he's prolific. He's prolific. He's clever. He's, he's like everything you want a comedian. He's like, he's one of the best ever. Yeah, I think so

Who else would you say like well? What's your take on like Dave Chappelle? Everyone finds him to be hilarious. Yeah, I mean not everyone There's a lot of controversy. No, no, no, but I'm saying like I feel like people put him on this pedestal like you're so great Well, I think that's it gets hard when you when that happens Yeah, because I think there's an expectation and and it's like, I think Dave is obviously an amazing comedian, and I do get annoyed, though, with all the like, oh, they're gonna cancel Dave. I was like, dude, Netflix literally

publishes him taking a shit. Yeah, exactly. Like, what are you talking about? He's not getting canceled. He is one that will never get canceled. He did that speech and they publish it. I'm like, he's fine. Calm down.

Well, how come nothing ever happens to him though? How come, I mean, well, first off, I hope nothing does, because that, you know, No, it's an incomplete. Because I think free speech is important. I totally agree. But I also don't, I think this like fear of it, like being like, you know, Davis, a great comedian,

like I don't like when comedians get turned into martyrs. I think our job is to be funny. It is your job. So when it turns into like this larger thing, I'm like, hey, he's doing great, he's fine. Everyone's settled down. It's all buzz. I find it's like, you know, it's almost like a shock

jock tactic from back in the day with the like, they're trying to cancel us and then you rile up their fans and those guys are making a shitload of millions and I'm like, where your fans aren't. Right. So it's kind of like, it's almost like you're dooping people. I'm kind of like, eh, you know what? My life's going great.

No need for that. But you're not nervous about yourself being canceled or what you say or like. If it happens, it happens. I'm not gonna lose sleep about it. I don't, I mean, like I've gotten a taste of it very young where I got in trouble for a joke in like 2013. And you know what?

It was annoying. I was pretty anonymous in the business. So it sucks when you're known for just like a joke that people don't like. But I've also, you know, I think you live your life and you try to be a decent person and hopefully that's your reputation. And if it happens, I think people will be like, hey man, he makes jokes. He'll miss sometimes. He's a nice guy and that's that, you know? It just got so... I don't think the comics really getting canceled

over shit they say. I think like when it's like, you know, Bill Cosby, you're like, yeah, that wasn't over a joke. You know? I hope you're right. Like I think that your job is to be funny and to say things you've laughed at and you make fun of everybody.

It's not like you're picking one person, not you person in the middle of the general. I feel like it's gotten out of everybody. It's not like you're picking one person, not you person, like in general. I feel like it's gotten out of hand. Like everybody is now like having to be, I feel are very like watching what they're saying and trying to be very like, you know, I think skittish because they don't want to get canceled. Yeah, the problem is there's the content

has outweighed quality. Like the need for the quantity is really outweighed, you know, quality. So everyone's just speaking, like people are riffing on topics that are dangerous to riff on. Quality like the need for the quantity is really outweighed, you know quality. So Everyone's just speaking like people are riffing on topics that are dangerous to riff on So when you write a joke on one of those you can kind of stand behind you like well that was written that was prepared I put thought into it But when you're just like free styling on like trans people right like oh shit. This could be dangerous and then You know and then I

Don't think, I think everyone's done too many podcasts now to really be canceled for that shit. I think everyone's, like, you know, Colin Quinn will say, like, all you need to cancel, this is Wi-Fi. You know, it's like, it's true. I mean, but at the same time, I think people are just like over it. I think, I think the way it swung one way, it will swing back the other way, almost like over it. I think the way it swung one way, it will swing back the

other way almost like too hard. We were like, all right, well, that's like, you know, Johnny Depp's trial was at the perfect time. Let's put it that way. I'm so glad that actually did happen. Yeah. Because I think that that helped the pendulum go back a bit. Maybe. The what happened to where is that a C's guy. He was so funny, he got canceled. A C's? He didn't get canceled. I mean, he, he, he like, he was, he was like, uh, uh, and does anyone want to hear a white guy talk cancel culture, by the way, is the most fucking played out shit? No, it's not. I want to know.

I mean, I think a C's, you know, a C's was a really, I was really unfair. I think it was really unfair. Uh, and I think he felt really bad about it. And I don't think he really, I mean, deserved it. He didn't deserve it. No, not at all. I mean, so, you know, it was a bad date. You know what I mean? Like it was a bad date. That's peace. But that's saying, like, it could be this person's word again, somebody else's word, and it can like destroy your life. He was, he was a victim of like that, we'll turn that pendulum. Yeah. He was a victim of like that, we're turning that pendulum.

He was a victim of like that moment in time. Is he coming back though you see? He's back. He put out an Netflix special, right? Like, right after he's still in great, I think he's put out two. Oh yes. And he has another movie that just actually had suspension

because Bill Murray got in trouble for some onset behavior. So, so worry about Bill Murray, not disease right now. Okay, good. disease is doing fine. He's doing fine then. Okay, good. Okay, they get to go back to then how, oh, Bob, you have a podcast too that you another one that you started speaking about podcasts. I have two podcasts. We might be drunk with Mark Norman, and I have games with names, which is just come out with Julian Edelman from the Patriots. And what I was going to save you is

ironically today, I got like a newsletter that like talked all about your podcast. Really? Yeah, it was so strange. Like that. I got it the same day as Julian. He's a super handsome Jew. He's a rip. We're like, if we're the englory's bastard, he's Brad Pitt and I'm one of the weak Jews.

I'm like the BJ Novak Sam Levine. He's, we've changed next to each other because we're banking episodes and I'm like, oh my God, you wanna feel bad about your physique? Change next to a former badass wide receiver who's still shredded. And he'll complain about his body too, which is so annoying. He does. He'll be like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I just like PG 13, I need paper view abs. I'm like, fuck you. You're shredded. Is he funny, fuck you. You shredded. Is he funny? Yeah, he's funny. And he's cool. I mean, he's like, he's the best.

He's like, yeah, he's. I haven't even come about like you and this athlete. I think they wanted a New York guy, a New York comedian who knew sports. Well, how did you guys become, we got friends? Did someone connect it to you? No, we're connected through I think,

your agency, yeah. And his company was looking for a New York comedian who could talk sports. So I think they like first up Julian's from the Bay Area and then he's a Boston sports legend. So we have that Boston New York rivalry. And I can trash the Boston teams and you could trash New York. And I think that's a fun rivalry. So, you know, we take like classic games and we relive them with the people from the games.

It's a really fun show. We've had like Eli Manning was the first episode. We have Payden. We have, you know, Paul Pierce. All these great athletes come on and it's a good show. Wow. And so like, so basically, did you audition for this? Like, if he's looking for like a comedian, we're like, I wouldn't say all audition, but like, I went to his apartment with all his friends and we had burgers and we watched football, which I think they wanna make sure that we vibe. Right. But, and I, you know, I wanna make sure, I don't wanna sign up for something where it's like,

I'm like, this is a frickin' doll. No, he's cool, he's cool and funny and really good. And so how many episodes did you guys bank already? We got like 12 bank, there's 24 in the first season, so we'll finish it out. Wow, so who was up to you at Eli Payton, who else did you have on there? A lot of football guests were the first season, so we'll finish it out. Wow, so who was it, so you had Eli Payton, who else did you have on there? A lot of football guests for the ones bank,

because when we were doing it, that was, that was who was available, but we're gonna get a lot like basketball and like hockey and baseball too, but we had Calvin Johnson, Megatron, you know, Ricky Williams, Michael Irvin, Michael Vic, like a lot of big guests. Yeah.

And so how often you're gonna be taping that, that in New York that you're doing in? We were taping in New York. Yeah, I don't know what we're gonna do for the rest of the episode. I mean, we can kind of set up shop anywhere. But we got a cool studio in New York. And yeah, he's the man. It's, I think people, if you like sports

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is it just me, myself thinking, it's gonna just bound you? It's friends will text me nice stuff, but I'm too in it. Like, I'm not home enough, I'm working on the next thing. I panic, like, you know, I put out a lot of comedy specials, so, you know, I think I'm always kind of panicking for new material and like trying to be like, when can I get the new thing out?

So that's a big thing and. There's no, yeah, do you have anxiety for like figuring out more? Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, the special that really helped me was called I got this and that's on YouTube and that's like 11 million views on YouTube, you know? And that really changed things for me.

Every network passed on that. And I was like, there's a good hour. It things for me. Every network passed on that. And I was like, there's a good hour. It was pretty painful. Every network passed on that. Every one passed on it. Yeah, it was a hard time to sell a special. It was like, you know, unless you were famous, they weren't really buying unless you were famous, you know,

and you know, you just, you know, I was just like, all right, you know. I was pretty hurt at the time, but you know, I was still determined. I was like, well, I'm done with these jokes. I'd like to tape this. And I remember, I did it in New York for the HBO people. And this one guy at HBO really loved it

and was trying to bring everyone in. And the higher ups were like, yeah, they want something R.C. They want something like a pure kind of joke guy. They want some like, you know, and then I got molested. I'm wearing a turtle necker. So that's what they want, you know. And I don't have that. So and then you know, so that hurt and of course like, you know at the time I was like, fuck HBO, but like looking back. It's like no one watches HBO specials anymore.

So it's like the best thing that happened to me. Yeah, Netflix passed, Amazon, I didn't want, I mean, I probably would have then. And then my agent was like, go to LA, let's run for Netflix. You know, I was like, all right, so I came here, you know, my crowd killed, you know, no dice. And then I just imagined, I'm just gonna film it, fuck them.

And then I did, and then Comedy Central's like, we'll put on our YouTube, we'll pay you to put on our YouTube and I was like, well, they got a huge YouTube following. And my whole thing was like, you need a link to, like all your friends are gonna share your special. And then when you, I've had specials on Comedy Central where they're like, watch it at 11 p.m. and everyone's like, what is this, 1992?

No one does that. You know, you, how many, it takes you like four times for someone like, you gotta watch this show and you're like, all right. And then another friend's like, have you seen this show? That's like, it takes like six of those. That's true, I think there's like research on that. It takes I think four times.

But if there's a link. If there's a link, what do you think? That helps. It helps, but people watch it in segments. If it's good, like they'll, you know, they won't watch the whole thing maybe, or they'll look at it. They'll stare it a few times.

But on Twitter, people would be like, watch this and be like, but if they watch this and they have the link there, it's like, oh my god. They'll tap it for you. Exactly. And if the first few jokes that grow people in, I were open with like all me two jokes,

and they were all like, I think an angle that comics were in hitting, which was kind of like, a little more down the middle. I think a lot of, I heard a lot of like comics who are like, you can't say nothing to women anymore and I'm like, that's not the problem. I think it's the rapes. But whatever.

But I did like, you know, so I did a lot of jokes about that and I think that like that was kind of a, like I came out of the gate hard and I do that with this new special too. I come out of the gate hard. I'm like, I'm aware of the attention span. So I'm like, let's come with some hard jokes quick. I'm like, I want that with this new special too. I come out of the gate hard. I'm like, I'm aware of the attention span. So I'm like, let's come with some hard jokes quick. I'm like, I want that first five minutes

to be like bam, bam, bam, jokes. So I think that helped. And then a lot of comics, I think, like that I did it that way, that I was kind of like, you know, middle fingers to the industry. But really it was like my only option. People were like, this is punk rock.

I'm like, no, it's literally my only choice. Right, everyone turned it down. Right, but then it got so many views so quickly that I think people were like, holy shit. And you think it's because the first five minutes was so good. No, I think it's a tight special. I think it's my best special probably.

It's like, it was a lot of work. I put a lot of work into it. And it's, and how long you said it was an hour, right? It's like 48 minutes or 49 minutes probably. That's a lot of work into it and it's... And how long you said it was an hour, right? It's like 48 minutes or 49 minutes probably. That's a lot of material. Yeah, it was a lot of jokes. And I think a lot of comics just like, they were related to it.

So they were pushing it. A lot of comics were mad. Right. That they saw a good thing that got passed on because then they were probably like, I can make a good thing that we'll get passed on. I relate to this. Right. So I think a lot of comics like took, you know, push me for that reason.

And then, you know, the pandemic, it's funny, I put that out to tour. I was like, this will help my, you know, I'm not getting a lot of money on this. I'm putting this out to sell tickets on the road and it really helped. I got a lot of fans out of it, but I can't tour because COVID just fucking hit. It came out February of 2020. So, oh my gosh, a month prior. But the reason it got so many views was probably also because of that, because people are home and they're like, we can watch this.

Right. So, long run, it did help me. But, yeah, I really wanted to tour it and this really hurt. So, during COVID, what I did was I really was like, well, I need to really work on a new act. I need to figure out how to perform. I can't perform. There's no clubs open in New York.

So I shot a rooftop special where I just go to, I just put an Instagram like, do you have a rooftop? I'll come to your roof, get your friends together, get some white clog, get some beer. I'm bringing a camera crew with a fucking drone. Let's do this. And I hit up like so many rooftops for so long. I just kept doing roofs and we just kept filming it.

And have you. Have you rooftops as you actually end up doing? So many. I mean, I did it for like months. So I just kept doing roofs and then probably filmed like 10 of them. But I just kept doing, I mean, I had to do them to get in shape too, because I was like, man, I'm so out of comedy shape. Right.

It's not my best work because it's like I'm out of comedy shape. But it was a really cool thing that I'm glad we did. My friend Matt Salik, he's directed that and he was so passionate about it. Like literally shows up on a roof in Murray Hill with his with a drone. He's like, we can't go too far this way because there's a no fly thing here. Oh my gosh. So we're like we're really dealing with these weird you know rules, but I think I heard you talk about that on Mark Marin's Podcast actually. I don't know if we had done it yet actually when I did. Oh, I thought that's what you guys You know maybe oh no, you were talking about doing a lot of Instagram lives. You were doing a lot of those. I don't know Yeah, that's not the one. I was the I don't know. I was like after a while

I you know that was a that was a a lot of work that that rooftop one because Something would go wrong on every roof. Things go wrong in venues. So if you're on a roof, we're like, there's not an outlet here. We need to charge a battery. You're like, there's not, you know, the mic just didn't work. We were down by the world trade center and the mic just didn't work.

We're in Bushwick. It's like a shitty-ass roof. You know, and like, people are hanging off. Are they gonna be okay? We're climbing ladders to get on these weird roofs. It was such a weird, it was a great thing I hope I never have to do again. Right. We had to do something to like work,

I kind of just like work the muscle, right? Oh my God, I remember the idea, where I got the idea was it, where I got the idea was I was doing these, like they were like, you can do 10 minutes on my show with the, you know, down by the water, you know, so I'd be like traveling far during COVID to get 10 minutes of it.

And I'm like, I can't do, I need an hour. I need to go long. I need to experiment. I'm very experimental with my standup. I fall ass backwards in the punch lines. I'm not the type of guy that's like, this is perfect. I need to figure it out.

So yeah, I was, I need long sets. And I started bringing friends with me and it was like turning like we're hanging out. This is great. Yeah, it was a great experience. You call, I think what you call on the audience a lot too. That's kind of like your, I feel like you do that. I do that. I do that to promote gigs.

I do that because I'm like, it's not my favorite thing, but it's like, it's fun, it's spontaneous, it makes the show special. I do, if I do an hour, I'll do a little that anyway, just to make the show feel unique, or I'll make fun of the city, I'll have fun with them, but I do that really to promote gigs, because I can post without burning material. Right, oh, okay.

What do you, what, what would you say that you're known for? Like, there's like, okay, he's really good. The his thing is, he's really known for it. Great, writing joke writing. I don't know what I'm known for. I think just like a joke guy, I'm like an old school jokes, like kind of like a short form jokes a lot probably.

Not like a great, I mean, I don't know, but I feel like you're a very good writer. Thank you. I mean, not like I, I don't, I mean, even the thing on David, how'd you even get the David Letterman thing? He picked a few comics or what was- I don't even think he picked them.

I think like one of his people picked them. He probably approved them. He's probably like, I'm fine with this. But yeah, my agent was like, you want to do this? And I was like, nah, I don't want to talk to Letterman. So like, yeah, let's fucking do it. It's David Letterman. So I mean, I had like daydreams as a kid.

Like, you know, I'd been like, you know, the shower logo. So Dave, like you an idiot kid pretending to like be interviewed by Letterman, you know? And you were interviewed by him. Yeah, he was, he was really, really cool. It was a really great experience. He was really, really warm and, and friendly. And like, of course, I've heard, I've seen the clips of him, like,

bearing guests sometimes were like, I guess he had Fully at the save the interviews. So you're like, man, what would be worse than bombing for Dave? Like, let me bring the fucking heat, you know? Yeah, he didn't seem like he knew it was going like he didn't he kind of felt like he didn't really know the comedian very well when he was interviewing. He said he watched my rooftop stuff. He said he said he said he's like and we talked in the green room before for a while and he was like, I watch a lot of your stuff. And he was he was for the key. I like how resourceful you are. And know, you know, you're set up to have the other comedians more.

I did because I saw yours and a couple other ones. And he seemed like he wasn't me. On yours, he asked you questions. They're more personal. The other ones he didn't. So I noticed. Um, I don't know. I think he did watch everyone who came.

Really? He, uh, I'll watch it again. Yeah. You don't have to. You know, I'm? I'll watch it again. Yeah, you don't have to. I'm only giving you homework. Yeah, no, he was, he was, that was a great experience. That was really cool.

No, I'm sure. Like that was like, because he's David Letterman, right? Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, he felt, he was very warm after the interview and before and like, you know, at one point I came out, it's because he'd do stand up before

and I had a phone, I guess, bulging out of my pocket and first joke hits and then someone in the top yells out, Sam and I'm like, what? And they're like, Sam, is that a phone in your pocket? And I'm just like, is someone fucking with me? So they say, is there a phone in your pocket? And I just said, nah, it's my cock.

And I'm just trying to like, volet, trying to save it. And they said, is there a phone in your pocket? And I just said, no, it's my cock. And I was like, I'm just trying to like, volet, trying to save it. And they said, you got to restart the set. So there's no phone in your pocket. And I'm like, and Dave like jokingly runs over, like get the fuck off stage. And like he's, he's hamming it up being silly. And then he grabs me, goes, I'm so, so sorry.

This is so awful. I'm so sorry. And I said, it's okay. It's all right. So I go back and I go back out. I told the same joke again It crushes because they really want me to do well now. They feel bad for me the crowd and

Even after the interview goes I'm so so sorry. I was like, hey man. Like I've been I've done this before it happened It's all right, you know, he was and you know, he was really like it felt sincere when he like really really was really great talking to you and I was like, dude, this is like, it was a big deal for me. It was one point where he was like, like, well, how you know you've made it? I was like, I'm talking to David Letterman. What do you mean? What do you mean?

What made it? This is pretty good. Well, that was fun. That would be my next question. Like, when do you know? Like, that's a pretty big moment, you know? I think, my goals are not, I wouldn't say that I'm not ambitious, but I, you know,

I'm doing what I want to do. So that's the thing where, like, I'm making money at it. Yeah, it's going very well. So it's like, it'll be, how I know I may, I feel like I've made it. I feel like I, I have goals to be in like bigger venues and I have other things.

Problem is now like so much of what we do is like podcast based and I love it. It's a great way to reach new people and to promote your stuff. But I really got. I'm number 448. You're 448. I've done 448 podcasts. Yes. But the thing is.

I feel special. People are going to get that reference. I posted Jonah Hill had a thing. He tweeted, I don't, I have too much anxiety to do press anymore and I posted Jonah Hill had a thing. He tweeted, I don't, I have too much anxiety to do press anymore. And I think I wrote back like cool. I'm doing 447 podcasts to promote my special. But good for you. Yeah, and I wrote, I'm 448.

But you know, he, you know, he, he, that if you're an actor, it almost is cool to not do press. You almost have a mystique. Yeah. You're comic. You can't really do that. I feel like, but I didn't sign up to this to be a radio guy.

That's the thing. I got into this because I was like, I want to be a sitcom guy. I grew up with that era. So I was like, I want to be Gary Shanley or Jerry Seinfeld or something. And then it's like, oh shit, I have to be Don Imus. That's not what I want to do.

You know? I love Don, I don't know who that is. That was the, wasn't that like the, he was the opposing person for, I think of him as the enemy of Howard Stern. Have you been on Howard Stern yet? No, I haven't. Do you want to be?

I, you know, it's funny. I didn't really grow up listening to him. I know it's like almost a sin to say. I, I really, I look in the city. So I wasn't like, I didn't really have like a commute. So I wasn't like, I don't, I can't drive.

That's true. I heard you say that on Whitney Cummings podcast, that you can't drive. You heard me get a word in on Whitney Cummings podcast. I was gonna say, can I tell you, I'm really happy you said that, because that was what I was gonna tell you when you walked in. I'm like, I try to like do some like research on you, right?

So I'm like, okay, I listen to that. I'm like, okay, he was not Whitney Cummings podcasting. I don't listen to her. So I'm like, oh, listen to it to see. It was all of, she talked the entire time. I couldn't, there was not one piece of information that I could get from you. I couldn't glean one thing.

It was all about her being on Prozac or anxiety. And then that was a problem. I couldn't get anything. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, what were we talking about? And the bottle, that's why I went to the Mark Maren podcast to see if I can get some information. And that's when I thought you were to,

it was like, you guys, you were on, like I thought during COVID or? Yeah, I was doing COVID, but it was before I shot the thing. So I was still out here, I was in LA. We shot that in person. It was like a big deal that we met in person at the time. Oh, it was, okay.

Because he wasn't, I mean, a lot of people weren't meeting and he was like, are you good? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine. You're fine, right? I'm, I was pretty paranoid at first, for sure. Because of Michael, by the way, no Michael, you're very well too. And I, you know, you guys were friends too.

That was crazy what happened to him. I know. Because he was super healthy. Like, it was like, it's random. Don't scare you when a healthy person, something horrible happens to them because you're like, well, I'm not the picture of health. But, right?

And so if I can happen to someone who's super healthy, that's what, that was the thing. But anyway, so the Whitney Cummings thing, so I couldn't, I'm not the picture of health. Right. And so if I could happen to someone who's super healthy, that was what that was the thing. But anyway, so the Whitney Cummings thing. So I couldn't, I didn't get anything for you, unfortunately. Hey folks, it's Michael Berry. And the flooring in your home sets the tone for that room. Is it a formal room or an informal room? Is it a daytime or an evening room?

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it's like success. Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah. Is it getting a sick cup? Do people care? No, Netflix specials. Is that the big deal now? I guess I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have coming up.

Yeah, I mean, it's out. Yeah, September 1st, it's out. Same time, tomorrow, and Netflix. I'm doing the things I want to be doing right now. And that's, I really can't, I think sometimes like, when do you know you made it? I don't think that big picture, I try to look day to day, like obviously I have ambitions,

you know, but I'm on whiskey out right now that's really cool, called bodega cat, bodega cat. How did you start that? I have a drinking podcast and my friend and I were like, we should ever on whiskey. And then we're like, we probably have people listening who have a distillery, so many emails about like, we'll make your whiskey. And then we're like, we probably have people listening who have a distillery, so many emails about like, we'll make your whiskey.

So we went with a guy who seemed pretty legit. It's called bodega cat whiskey. You can get it bodega cat whiskey.com. It's, it'll be your favorite ride. It's really good. It's such good whiskey. I'm sorry I don't have a bottle, but I'll, I'll, I'll put next time I'm, I'm here, I'll bring you a bottle.

You promise? Or is that just like lip service? I don't drink whiskey, but my husband would take it. Well now I know I gotta rush it over. I don't drink it, but we get sanded or something. No, well definitely, it's really good whiskey. I promise you'll like it. How long has it been out for?

It just came out. We've been working on this forever to get it out. And so I'm doing that. I got the podcast. I wrote an anime show that I'd love to make. We couldn't sell it as my friend Dana Gould, and we made it in Dana's, brilliant, I've learned a lot from working with him,

but that's a thing I'd love to make. Right now, Torrin's great. I'm happy Torrin. I'm gonna go a real hardcore Torrin next year. I'm hitting like smaller cities right now to kind of build up the new hour, so I have an act. So like, you know, that's why I'm going to ForWin in Dianne

on Thanksgiving, my parents are thrilled. And, uh, really? Oh yeah. I'm sure they are just thrilled. Just fucking build it up. Geez, you're just constantly on the road. Okay, so wait, get back to the special, but it's out right now.

Yeah. Okay, so because you didn't sell the, the other one that got 11 million views, is that how you got this one? I think that helped. Yeah, so I think there were like, people will watch you got this one? I think that helped. Yeah, so it didn't. I think there were like, people will watch, yeah. So then how did that, like how to,

so after that, did you go to them and say, hey, I wanna do a special, did you make a special, what was the process? Give us like, I think my agent, is very crafty and he, he basically was like, you know, I think you're missing out,

being in business with Sam, like maybe we could do a deal. So it's like a licensing deal with, I still own the special, but they get it for two years. So it was a creative way to get on there while still having ownership. I think ownership is like really good to have your specials. And it's a good way to like get to reach a new audience.

Like what I get more views on YouTube than Netflix probably, honestly. Yeah. But especially now. For sure, but at the same time, you know, I was like, how do you, I mean, look? The Netflix ship is sinking. Let's grab a life. Exactly. You fucking have some fun.

Did they give you like a licensing? Do you get like a, obviously, their pain? Yeah, they're paying me. Yeah. But I'm getting like the $25 million fee that let's say 24. You know, it's like, it's all right. It's okay. You'll take it. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's a new thing. It's good.

It's like, you know, good to diversify always. Like you get fans from different places and you reach people that you want to have reached. And uh, but are people like not that Andrew Schultz thing that came out where he had to buy that? A baby style. Yeah. Is that just the way that people are doing it more? I don't know.

Do they edit it? Do they, do you have to be very careful of what you do say when you're on like a Netflix or an Amazon? No, I think it's all bullshit. I don't think we really have to be that careful. I don't know what happened to his situation, but I know he felt the need to buy it back, but he probably made way more money that way. So at the same time, it's like, well, maybe that's why he did it. You know, for me, I've never felt like, there's a couple of times they've been like,

we don't know about this bit, and I'm like, well, it's in there. So, I'm kind of like, yeah, I don't think, you know. They don't say cut it out or. That is hilarious of Amazon's, like, we have a problem with this joke. We'll let people die in our warehouses, but this joke is upsetting.

Yes. Well, they're scared also of the in our warehouses, but this joke is upsetting. Yes. Well, they're scared also of the same reason, like, parents of culture, next job. I don't think, I think it's all over blown in general. I think like, you know, I remember Comedy Central, I was like an eight minute dead baby joke and they were like, this can't be in. I was like, well, it is.

So, don't know what to tell you. Right. All right, so I had to open the joke by being like, Comedy Central wanted me to say that they don't know what to tell you. And they were like, all right, so I had to open the joke by being like, comedy central wanted me to say that they don't think this is funny. Me on the other hand. That's how you open the joke? Yeah, it's on you.

It's, yeah, it's, it was a dicey one. I'm gonna go look at that. Did you get any kind of hate from that? Oh yeah, tons of death threats. Really? It's fucking go. But that also just, that gives the controversy must be really helpful for you

Right some more people watching either the joke was pretty funny I was kind of more mocking the person who got offended by the joke than the than the actual baby, but you know like you know I Think it's always good. I you know and I think it's good for comedy when people have control So I think like Andrew buying a back is great that he just now owns it and has control. And he makes that money and then he could do it every once with it in a couple of years.

So with comedy central, the problem with them was just having people see it. That was the thing, they weren't adapt. But why? I don't get that. Why does this remind the time? It's an old model and this is what they're married to. And a lot of good people got laid off there

and it's upsetting. You know, it's an upsetting thing that like they just couldn't adapt. And you know, who knows, maybe Netflix is next. Maybe I got in right as the shipping company. You probably exactly. I know. Maybe you'd already sank.

It could have, it's over. Maybe by the time, yes, you're right. How about the roasting on this uncomedy central? That's like their big thing. Well, you never, you never, I wanted to do it. No, yes, you're right. How about the roasting on this uncomedy central? That's like their big thing. Well, you never, you never wanted to do it. No, I never really did it. How come you never got the chance? I don't think I was a big enough name.

I think they were going with a big name. They had some not-so-big names. But they usually had a connection to the person getting roasted. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, you're right. I love that part though. That's the only thing they had that's really really great now.

Yeah, roasts are fun. They're really good. It's like the oldest form of con. It's like the oldest form of con. But it works and it's super funny. It is weird when it's like, man, the jokes have gotten so mean. It's like they used to just be like surface jokes where it's like, this person looks like this.

And then after a certain point, they're like, this guy got molested in seventh grade and you're just like, Jesus Christ. And they're like so like they're like so cringe-worthy. Some of the jokes like terrible, terrible. But Nikki Glazer who I love, are you front-end? Yeah, yeah. She was like, she was on all the time. Like she was like a main...

She crushed it on her. Well, she's got those like, she's short joke. She's got it that type of thing. She's very good at that. She's been really really well Actually now too with thicker f-boy special and like all these other big specials Then how did you do like you did like America's got talent? Is that the one you did? Yeah last comic-signing? Did you do that one too? Yeah both terrible experiences both of course reality TV? I know

I know fucking gun in my mouth. Well, why did you do it? Of course reality TV. I know. I'm gonna fucking gun him my mouth. Well, why did you do it? Because I was desperate to get fans and desperate to sell tickets on the road and stop playing the papered rooms of people that didn't care who the hell I was. And it was hard to work on jokes when they just don't give a shit about the show. Right. They're there because there's nothing to do in Syracuse.

Not because I'm funny. Well, yeah, fortunately. You know, so, yeah, I did all those. I mean, I remember America's got talent. It was like, I mean, God bless how my man doe is a sweet guy. And I do feel like Melby was kind of flirting with me a little bit, but probably not, but I thought she was.

Maybe we'll say she was. Yeah, but I remember like, they fuck with you. It's like 5,000 cedar in 5,000 cedar in the palisades You know you fly out here You carefully go over this set. I saw them tear to shreds to Jewish rappers before me and by damning Simon and I was like, oh my god. This is the he's being so mean I thought they were kind of interesting, you know, so I was it was pretty rough and then So I'm like, how do I endear myself to the crowds? So Simon's like, I don't know what they're going to ask me. He's like, tell me about your worst gig. And I'm like,

all right, maybe I'll create a little underdog scenario where they want to like me. And I told a story or true story of a guy just walked up to me and spit on me on stage and he's like, well, I hope you do better than that tonight. And I was like me too. And I I killed I had a great say it's hilarious in the edit. I do a fart joke and it crushes. It just crushes. And for some reason in the edit, the way they packaged it for the show,

it's me doing this fart joke, cut to all four judges, give me a standing ovation. So it looked like that's the joke that did it. But really, I did like four minutes or so. Yeah. Just bang, bang, bang, hard jokes. Standing now, I get off and they're like,

we don't know if you made the cut. And I'm like, well, they all just said I did. Are you serious? It's a terrible experience. And then, everyone says that. Yeah, and then, yeah, and then they're like, Simon's in a bad mood. I'm like, cool me too.

Been here 11 hours. One of us is leaving in a private jet. So, who do you think's in a worse mood? And then I go back and it's like, you get the hotel, they put us up and had construction. So I got no sleep and I was like, I feel like it was on purpose. They want you irritable.

And yeah, they try to get you to shit talk other guests. I'm like, I'm not doing that. You know, I gave them nothing. I was like, I don't want to give them any. I am so they can cut and be me being like, like, to someone's life, you know? And you also feel bad for these dance troops there who are like, literally like, they're stretching, they're warming up. I can go on stage drunk.

Like these people, this is like a real thing, I have to do. They have to like, stay ready. I'm just like, yeah, whatever, whenever you need me. Exactly. But I remember going on, cold times like 10 a.m. I go on stage like midnight. And they're like, man, your material made me like kind of tired.

And I was like, yeah, I wonder if it's because there's midnight. One of that played a role in it. I did well in the second round, but they didn't move me out. I remember George Lopez was like a guest judge in my head. I'm like, he's a comic.

He's a fucking, he's gonna love me. He's a comic. He'll support. He'll get it. And then he had like one golden ticket and he gave it to like a Latino dance troupe. I'm like, he's more lad than a comic. Damn it. George. So you didn't support you after all that? No, I mean, he was nice. He was very nice. And how he meant that I saw like, I saw him at Montreal like a few months later. And

he was like, dude, you got to grow a deal, you're really fun. He was really nice to me and I was like, thanks. I was like, dude, I watched Bobby's world as a kid. Come on. That's really, I love, I, I, I, I, I, he's, how he's a nice guy. He's nice and he's also funny. He's got, he's so quick. He's quick.

Yeah, he's like a very neurotic, very neurotic. He's super quick though. He's got great one-liners that he could just think of so fast. Yeah, yeah. So then that wasn't what year did you do that? I don't remember. It was years ago.

It was, it was, it was not a good experience. It was a very desperate move on my part. And I remember a lot of friends who were like, ugh, you're doing that. I'm like, hey man, it was not good. I still got fans out of it, weirdly. I mean, you did. Well, I mean, it has like 10, the time is like 10 million viewers. So like you have one five minute segment on there,

you get a shitload of messages and like, hey, I just need to keep the moment going. I just need to keep getting people so I can sell tickets on the road so that I can keep writing material, you know? It's very hard to write when it's not your people, because they don't listen and they don't really. So that was the goal.

It's like, get enough people that I can just keep doing what I like and turning out hours of material. Also, that's how, also though, doesn't that how you'd get material, like that experience, you could probably have like a million jokes within that like, Sure. Experience.

Yeah, yeah, I think you could probably get something. Like how else do you get your material? You get to live life, you got to do stuff, you got to, because you can't get it from just sitting at home all day. Well, can you? Yeah, if you're in material? Yeah, you get to live life. You got to do stuff. You got to do stuff. Because you can't get it from just sitting at home all day. Well, can you? Yeah, if you're in your head enough, but then you have a lot of like a lot of those joke short, just like reading article and I might read something stupid and then I have to make it.

Yeah, my friends said this to me the other day. I'm like, no, that was an article I read. Right, right, right. I have no life. So you have to go up there. So you got to do stuff. And you could write jokes with friends sometimes. You just were like talking.

You kind of say something like, oh, that's a bit, that's something. I could play with that little. A lot of it's like taking notes. And then you don't really like just come up with material to computers. A lot of like taking notes throughout the day, and then you sit in the front of a computer and I'm like, I should go this way with that,

or I should go this way with it, you know? No, give me an example. Give me the day in the life of what you would do. That's what I wanna know. Like an example of a joke. Let me look at my phone. I don't even know my phone. Yeah, where is your phone?

Yeah, I want to know what your process ought to sound like that. Like a process. Let me see what I got. Or like a day in the life of you besides. A day in the life. Let me see if my joke's here. I'm working on it. I was working on like a...

Here we go from yesterday. Let me see. Yeah, like something will happen and I'm, let me see what the decent, I had one the other night where I was like, I just read this, like you just keep adding lines. It was like, saw one like how, someone was telling me it was like after the Trump raid. They were like Trump's a malignant narcissist

No, like what do you mean he goes? Only likes people that like him and I was like well, that sounds a lot like me You know, that sounds like most people and I was like most of my friends are like is he a good guy? I'm like what likes me. I don't know. I mean, you know, I was like kind of like a you know If Putin tweeted you guys got to watch the new Samarrel comedy special pardon me would be like yeah, you know, if Putin tweeted, you guys got to watch the new Samarrel comedy special, pardon me, would be like, yeah, you know, leadens complicated, he's a complicated guy. You know what I mean? And it's like, so that was like an idea. And I'm like, let me just add one line,

let's add another line, you just keep adding lines, you're like, what would I go? So it's like, that's not like a great joke or anything, but that's like an observation that you have during the day, you just keep adding a line. A lot of it's just living in my head, like, can I come up with another line? I come with another something else and looking at like See what else I got here

Let's see Sometimes it will be like a dating thing or like This was just a thought I had like when a woman likes me, I'm turned off. That's what I wrote down. I was like, I just noticed that a woman was nice to me and I was turned off. So it was like, oh, this beautiful message, woman message me, you have a wonderful smile

and I was like, this chick is corny. Really? Yeah, it was my gut reaction. Isn't that sad? Why is that? I don't know. That's like a deeper psychological. I don't know probably because I'm just like,

I mean, it probably goes to like the old Gravcho Marley. I'm just saying the old Gravcho Marley. Right? You're only, you want to be a member of a club that won't have you. I mean, that's really, it goes probably to that point. I would guess. That's interesting that you actually,

that was your first gut reaction. So it's like, I was gonna say, you're on tour. You're my hit tons of girls constantly hitting on you. No, not really. No, it's like, I get a say, you're on tour, you're gonna get tons of girls constantly hitting on you. Not really, not really. I get a lot of dudes who are like, I want to be a comedian. Really? That's more what I get. You don't get girls, like you're young guys.

Sometimes, sometimes. But you have that same type of like... It's a lot of young guys. I think sometimes it'll happen, but not like, you know, sometimes. But you turned off because if they like you, you're not really sure. Well sometimes, you know, but I think it's like that you have to fight through some instincts that are unhealthy, that like I mean, that's what I do with in therapy is you try to break patterns that are not necessarily good for you. So you in therapy right now?

I'm in therapy. See, I feel like all comedians are like, is that like where you also work out your, was it you or I think was it? This is what I heard in your video. Yeah, that was me and a lot of the thing. I said that he said, yeah, the joke I think I said to Letterman was like, he's like, you see a therapist, a lot of comics and I was like, yeah, you know, sometimes you're in the waiting room and you hear, you're a big laugh and you're like, fuck, I got to bring it again this week. That's like, I have a lot of therapy jokes. A lot.

But a lot of comics I feel have a lot of therapy jokes. A lot. But a lot of comics, I feel, have a lot of therapy jokes. Well, yeah, I mean, it's funny. It's like, it's like, almost like the toxic comic was a big thing for a while as you say. But now there's like that self-betterment type comedian who's like working on the socials. So you don't have to be, I mean, look, there's still toxic, messes, people out there.

But it's different than it was, for sure. So who would you say are the other people that you think are really, really good? My friends are so funny. The people I said before, my friends are so good. I mean, Joe Liss, special is so good. Right. He has two on YouTube that are just killer.

I think one's called this year's material and the other one's called I Hate Myself. Any of my good friends, you see, I post about them all the time. I love Stavros. My good friend Stavros has a new special. You saw that, it's really funny, right? Stavros Halki is that's blown up on YouTube. I mean, I'm very fortunate when I'm surrounded by really funny people who work hard. So it just makes you feel lazy if you take any time off.

Right. And then was there anyone like you think like besides Bill Burr who else and Rodney danger felt who else do you think is really great. Well David Tell was like such a big influence. I mean he was so helpful to me when I was a young comic and he's still like such a good I just love him like I he's just the funniest. So I think I still think skank should the memories is the best comedy album of all time. I think nothing will ever touch that one. Really? It's too funny. I mean, he's such an amazing comedian. He's got one of my favorite jokes of all time, where he's like, you remember when you're young and you think your dad is Superman and then you grow up and you realize he's just

a drunk who wears a cape? That was him. Did that joke? Yeah. Oh, that is a good joke. Oh, he's classic. Yeah, he's the best. So what is your new, what is your new special? What didn't tell, tell people what the special is on Netflix? It's called same time tomorrow. It's on Netflix right now. And it's, I hope you like it. I, you know, it's, it's a lot of road sets. It's a lot of editing a lot of, I cut a lot of stuff out to make it just very tight. I just wanted it to be a tight special, but yeah, I think you'll like it. If you like jokes and you know, you like to laugh. I hate when people are like, I like to laugh. Everyone likes to laugh.

Yeah, who doesn't like to laugh? I feel like Hitler liked to laugh. Everybody likes you. He just laughed to probably fucked up shit. Really fucked up shit. You don't do a lot of Jewish jokes I did. I do. Not really. I got some fucking Holocaust jokes and this one that are bangers. Yeah.

Well, I told you, I did it. I said a joke, but I don't know. You're, I don't know. I got a lot. I used to do a joke. I'm like, I'm a Jew. I'm a New York Jew. I'm like, I'm the type of Jew that if you, oh yeah, I'm in therapy.

I can plan a lot. I'm the type of Jew that if you don't like Jewish people, I'm not the one that's gonna turn things around for you. That's a good one. That's a quick one. I had a lot of like, I did, I did, and even a lot of them when I did a Jew joke. You did, I don't remember. I have a comedian, yeah, what was it again?

I remember. I was like, you're gonna join my hate group, and this guy asked me to join his hate group, and I was like, who do you hate? He goes, black, Jews, everyone. I was like, I am Jewish. He's not even doing background checks. Oh, yeah, I did hate, I remember. That's a good one now. Yeah, that bothered me more than the recruiting. Like, you know, maybe I was like, I am Jewish. He's not even doing background checks. Oh, yeah, I did hear right.

Remember that's a good one now. Yeah, it bothered me more than the recruiting. Like, you know, maybe you want to join the hate group I'm walking around. I'm holding a torch. I'm like, dude, you know what this flame reminds me of? Hanaka. I do remember that.

That's totally true. I do remember that. I forgot about that. That's actually why I liked you so much. Oh, thanks. Because I heard that joke. See? And your grandfather was a CEO of like Lomond,

which I wrote, that's what I wrote. So, self-made orphan, never graduated high school. Amazing guy. He was a coolest. He was really funny. He was funny too. He was a very funny guy. And very, I mean, that's probably why like Rodney so much

is because he had some of those Rodney, like one of my tendencies, like he was like very quick. But yeah, he was the coolest. I wish he was alive. He was great. It would do anyone else in your family funny? My brother's dry. He's very funny in like a driveway.

He's like, he's good at like a, you know, and my sister is like a good like bullshit meter kind of. Like they're all funny in like different ways kind of you know Right, they're not like super serious and yeah, and my mom is a great sense of humor You know, I can like von Bitts buyer, you know, oh you can Yeah, I can like be like hey, is this funny mom and she'll tell me really yeah, yeah, did your family live in New York still? They're in yeah, they are and they come see you all the time when you perform there? Ever since COVID, not really ever.

But I think I did a show at the Beacon Theater in New York and they came to that one, because that was like a big milestone in New York. I think they wanted to be there. But my therapist set right behind them. Really? Yeah. Is there anything more therapy in New York

than like literally like my therapist sitting behind my mother? That is really, I know. You cannot get more on the nose than that. Yeah. What female comic do you like? What's your favorite? So mad. I mean, so many good ones. Just aim me a couple.

Rachel Feinstein's like, she makes me laugh so hard. All right, she's your good friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyone else that's like really fun. Taylor's great, you know, I mean, I was like, I'm bringing that up. Yeah. Well, you've kind of set me up for it. I did not set you up. I was like, I'm thinking about her. Well, you've kind of set me up for it. I did not set you up for it.

I was like, not thinking about her actually. When I said that, I did think about it. Yeah, there's some about it. Dana Hashem opens me on the road a lot. She's killer. I'm actually only asking because I want to, I'm looking for like a new person. I think the one who hates women, I mean, should I?

That's a, I don't find a lot of women hilarious. I mean, I thought like Ellen DeGeneres was really funny. Yeah, unless she worked for. Yeah, well, I didn't think so. That's why I think she's funny. That DeGeneres was really funny. Yeah, unless he worked for. Yeah, well, I didn't think so. That's why I think she's funny. That's why I think she's funny. I think Taylor is funny. I like Eliza, like Nikki, I don't know who else is there.

I'm asking you to give me some, give me some, some, like you want like a Netflix thing. I'm trying to think. No, just in general, the good life. Taylor and Peruvian was really funny. Jessica Kerson, there's so many funny, you know, more in a Franklin.

Yeah, I know, these are different things. You know, I mean, look him up, folks, come on. I know, I'm gonna look them up now. I watch some of these people on Netflix and Aaron Jackson's really funny. See, if they don't get you in the first five, 10 minutes and you're like, to your point, I just turn it off and I never look at them again.

The first five, 10 minutes. Well, I like women, let the record state that I think women are cool. Yeah. I just wish other people did too. You know? You're funny. Is there anything else that I can ask you? What kind of food you like?

I don't know. I'm so easy with food. I'm like, oh, we don't eat anything. I mean, I like I love death row shit. Like we're talking about bagels, locks, cream cheese, capers, or all-should-be. Yeah, that's all that. I love death row shit. We're talking about bagels, locks, cream cheese, capers, all-shurping. I love that. I love a good steak.

I love a good sushi. She's great. Mexican, Thai. I'm just joking about that, actually. I want to know what you do every day. What your daily routine is. I know that you drink a ton at night. That's why you talked about 100 of those BLKs.

But I want to know what times you wake up if you're working at night constantly. Are you like speaking on that? Well, it's very hard. I get wired. You know, I sometimes like, it really depends what I'm doing. Like, if I read, I'll fall asleep earlier. You read a lot?

I try to, yeah. But, you know, when you read, I'm reading a book now called American Tabloid by James Elroy that my friend Dana told me to read. And it's really good. Okay. And then, but last night I was watching a, like a Netflix show and I was up to, it's one of those addictive shows.

Which ones? It's called Untold, the Manthi Teo story. Have you heard of that? No. It's part breaking. It's a catfish. He was a huge college phenom, and it was the story of the guy who had the made up

dead girlfriend from years ago. You remember that was like 10 years ago? Yeah, I do remember that. And he really, I mean, it really opens your eyes to how dirty he was done by the media. The media is just so evil to young people. I mean, heartbreaking, an incredible talent. And like, I got this person catfished him

and it's like, it's really a disgusting thing to do. I mean, I'm like breaking news here, but like holy shit, that's a really horrible thing to fuck with someone like that. And I don't really see like, there was a ton of remorse on that person's end. I'm like, man, and Manitio forgave this person who really caused him hell. I mean, in many ways ruined his professional, coming to break the odds and make it to the NFL.

And then to have someone really fuck your life up and cost you millions of dollars. That's terrible. I never, I don't remember it that well. I kind of do, but not really. So that's what you watched last night. Yeah, and I watched the first one. I was like, all right, I guess I gotta watch the second. I can't wait. And then that's what you watched last night. Yeah, and I watched the first one I was like all right. I guess I got to watch the second I can't wait and then that's a problem with those things

That's what you can't start watching those things at night. Yeah, well that's how they oh every episode ends with like actually the murderer Was his mom alright fine. I'll watch it Actually the murderer was a piece of cake Is it cake a new Netflix show? Is it a murderer? Is it a is it a big woman who's just a cake? Is it cake? A new Netflix show. Is it a murderer? Is it a big woman who's just a cake? What else are you watching? Give me another. What do I watch? I'm so basic.

You know, like rewatch Mad Men a million times. I love Mad Men so much. I love sopranos. I watch old shit. But then if I'm watching something new, what do I like? I was watching only murders in the building because I just, Martin Schwartz just makes me laugh so hard. Like that guy is just,

Oh, so you like, that's a good, okay, so you like him. Martin Schwartz is like, oh my God, he's funny, I love him. What else have I watched? Um, show, I'm trying to think. What, I don't know. What's a new show? trying to think. What's a new show? That's bad. What's a new show? I've no idea.

Oh, I watched the bear on Hulu. Which one? The bear about the show in Chicago. That was really good. Yeah. I'm gonna rate that one down. Really good. I've heard it's amazing.

I gotta watch it. See, this is what happens. See? You're like the fifth for now, watch it. You need to hit five people. You think it's five not four? I don't know. What's it called? It's Nathan Fielder. I haven't seen it. I heard it's great. And what's the one that you said the bear? Yeah, I like the lot. You see that? Yeah, it's really good. It's like the animal, the bear. Oh, the bear. You have an accent that's very, very thick. So I can't. Yeah, part of it like is voice too.

Don't you think with comedians that like, it's a lot of it's how, like, they're tonation, like they're intonation. Like the way you speak is kind of what makes you memorable. Like it's very like. Delivery. Yeah, it's your delivery, exactly. You're kind of very good delivery. Thank you. Yeah, it's your delivery, exactly. Sure.

You're kind of a very good delivery. Thank you. Yeah, that's what is delivery, your jokes, your present, basically the whole thing. Yeah, you gotta work on everything. No, I'm telling you're gonna... I'm so glad that you came on today because... It was fun. I feel like in a year I'm not joking, you're gonna be huge.

You're gonna be just huge. Or, you know, because I feel like it's bubbling around you. I'm telling you now I got that letter about you today. How strange. Yeah, you don't think that's so weird. I'm just fucking No, I just find it interesting. I think you're gonna I think that this is like you're although did they say in 2011? I did read this on your wiki page that did they say in 2011 I did read this on your wiki page that you're going to be the comedy comedian to watch in 2013 or 2011. Keep watching. Yeah, I was going to say how long do we have to watch you?

I mean, it's so humiliating when they were like a rising star and they're like in 2011 you're like, well, I guess I didn't rise quite yet. I don't know. You're going to be on 11 bread. Like a matsu, basically. Yeah. I mean, it's, it takes a while, you know, but it's also like I've had fun for the last like many years. And you're actually like, you have a good career, which is amazing.

That's great. I'm very full. Like you actually make money, which is, I know it's crazy. You're not sleeping on people's couches. No, they still offer, which is a little unsolathing. I'm like, I can pay for a hotel. Oh, I can't sleep my cat. I'm like, you think I want to sleep on your fucking couch?

I was going to actually stay here. They want to hear you fuck your wife on your couch. I'm going to book a hotel. Don't they pay for it though? The people you stay, if you're here doing a show, don't they kind of pay for your hotel? Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes.

Oh, well, you want to stay in my spare room because I thought I'd listen to your fucking house. Yeah, maybe. It's on the couch. It you want to stay in my spare room? Because I thought I'd listen to you fuck your house. Yeah, maybe. It's on the couch. It's going to be in your own room. So you have a place to go. Okay. Maybe I'll take it up when you're sleeping.

You could play basketball. I do like the basketball thing here. Swim some laps. I like swimming. Oh, we have this thing in the pool. That's like a resistant thing. I saw that. It looks awesome.

It's really good for like, for working out. So you could do the treadmill. You'll get me healthy. I definitely can. You could do the treadmill. Then you can do healthy. I definitely can you can do the treadmill Then you can do that swim then you can go in the sauna. You've a sauna. Yeah red light. This is good living No, this is like but I'm like it's kind of known to this is like a wellness facility Yeah, you haven't seen the red it is

You're gonna kidnap me and try to turn my life around it's like sober living basically Yeah, basically is a rehab or a sober living Well, I think I'm done with you. I think that I'm kind of out. You sound like my ex. Yeah, sorry. You can stay as long as you can play more basketball. I might take a couple of jumpshow.

You can stay as long as you want. You can have dinner with my family. I got a guy to do a show. I know. What time is your show at? It's 4.50. I know, but I want to like get a jogging because I need to sweat this out. Do you want to go in the treadmill? Give sweatpants? No, I don't. Do, it's 450. I know, but I want to like get a jogging because I need to sweat this out.

Do you want to go in the treadmill, give sweatpants? No, I don't. Do you want to pair shorts? I'm in Puma, I can't run amaze. You really can't. Although I have shoes that fit you. Really?

Not mine, but I have a ton. Well, people send me stuff all the time. I have what size are you? 13. Your size 13? Yeah. Jesus. And how tall are you?

Six three. Really, do you have tall are you? Six, three. Really? Do you have a girlfriend now? I don't. Do you want one? No. Are you sure? I hate being set up.

Well, why? Because I don't, it's like, Again, it's not them saying you have a nice smile. It's me saying that you have a nice smile. So therefore, you don't have to hate them just yet. The setup is always, it's a lot of pressure. What's the pressure? You don't even't like let me just move on. Are you on Tinder? Are you on Raya? What are you doing? I don't want to

talk about it. I want to know. These are the things I actually want to know. I'll tell you off camera. Okay, well that means that means okay, my grinder. You're in grinder? Yeah. No, you're not. I'm not, but maybe we'll be after this podcast. If a girl tells you it's a nice smile, it's like, for you to tell me a nice smile, I'm like, ew. And if a girl does, you don't like it either. Girl or guy.

Yeah. So you don't want me to set you up with anybody. I'm good. All right. To reach your zone. Okay, well, I appreciate you coming all this way. I know it was very nice of you. I know you had another show in God knows in a very different direction and

We have fun was a good talk. I thought you're I hope the good people at entrepreneur magazine are happy with it I'm if it's they will be why wouldn't they be I don't know you're very you were you know Maybe a couple of the words here and there may have to be are they gonna upset them? Well, it's really if this is my podcast They're a partner of mine and they'll be fine. They're they're totally cool Yeah, with this so I for the potty language. Don't worry and people plea- okay I'm this is now me saying this if you don't know who's that is or you haven't heard of bits first of all check with his Netflix Special it is I'm sure I haven't watched that one you're about to say it's amazing you almost live I know I was gonna say I haven't watched that one. You're about to say it's amazing. You're almost lying. I know. I was going to say I haven't watched that one yet, because it's brand brand new.

But I have seen him do tons of bits, even on his social media on his Instagram. He is so funny. Thank you. People when I told them that I was harassing you, they even knew who you were. Oh, cool. They think you're hilarious. And yeah, because you are, that's why. So there you go. Thank you. He's my favorite newest comedian. It's been a long time. It's been, well for me, because I knew to be,

like I love Sebastian for a very long time. And then I kind of, you know, you kind of, like you kind of move through people after you see, I love Jim Gaffigan too. I love him. I think he's amazing. If you know him, can you get him on my podcast? Probably not. How well do you know? Well, but like, you know, it's a big ask. Okay, what do you mean a big ask? He's a big ask.

What do you mean, QS Bill Burr? No, I have favors I have to ask. He's people for. Oh fine, I'll find them myself. It's a headache to get them on my podcast. They won't even go on your podcast. No, got them both been on, but it's a big ass. It is.

How long did it take you to get Jim Gaffigan? I don't remember. It was like, he was promoting a special. You want to get these people in there promoting yourself. Of course, it's always, I got you even because of that, right? No, but I'm like, you just got me, you're not going to get Jim or, maybe you'll get him. What do you mean?

First of all, did you see the list of people at that time? It's very impressive, but they're tough to get him, just saying. I'm gonna try. And I'm gonna prove you wrong. I hope you do. Okay, good. I'm rooting for you. I just can't pull that out.

I'm just kidding. Okay, check out Sam Morrell. Go on his Instagram. What is your handle? Sam Morrell. At Sam Morrell. It's samerald.com on Instagram. It's my name Sam Marell, M-O-R-R-I-L.

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