Habits and Hustle - Episode 241: Darin Olien: The Invisible Fatal Conveniences You Need to Know About

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

What do you think is more dangerous: breathing in smog or flossing your teeth? In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I chat with Darin Olien about the invisible fatal conveniences we use and do every day. The world we live in makes us believe we have to but in reality, these conveniences are harming us and the planet.  Darin stresses how important it is to take our health into our own hands, do our own research and due diligence, and make decisions for our health. One should never trust companies to do what’s in our best interest. And the same goes for government agencies, like the FDA, that we think are there to protect us: they aren’t.  Darin Olien is co-host of the Emmy™ Award Winning, #1 Netflix docu-series, Down to Earth with Zac Efron. He has spent nearly 20 years exploring the planet discovering new and underutilized exotic foods and medicinal plants as a Superfood hunter Darin developed, Shakeology. He is also the founder of Barukas™, the most nutrient-dense nut in the world coming from the Savannah “Cerrado” of Brazil. As host of the widely popular podcast The Darin Olien Show, Darin curiously explores people, solutions, and health as well as life’s Fatal Conveniences™ – a segment of the show uncovering modern-day flaws and challenges that may be undermining our health and our environment.   What we discuss: 01:12: What motivated Darin to write his latest book? 09:32: How bad are EMFs for our health? 10:25: What do AirPods do to your health? 24:59: Does airplane mode make your phone safer to look around for you? 26:25: Are our gadgets causing cancer? 27:45: What’s the solution to tracking your health? 30:53: Are the TSA scanners dangerous? 35:53: Is spandex safe? 39:22: Is cotton safer than polyester? 49:16: What is the most shocking fatal convenience? 54:35: How can we learn more about which products are dangerous? 59:10: How sensitive was Darin’s dad to chemicals? 1:02:55: What are the symptoms that you are over-exposed to chemicals? 1:06:33: Is aging cream doing what it claims to do? 1:10:34: How can you turn a fatal convenience into a healthy convenience? 1:12:36: What are the benefits of Barukas nuts? 1:16:19: How is Shakeology different from other brands? 1:20:07: What is Darin’s morning routine? Key takeaways: When it comes to your health, you cannot under any circumstance trust companies to do what’s in your best interest. And the same goes for government agencies, like the FDA, that we think are there to protect us: they aren’t. You need to take your health into your own hands, do your own research and due diligence, and make decisions for your health.  Most fatal conveniences that are in our food can easily be avoided with one simple solution: grow your food. Not only is the produce that you grow yourself best for you, but they eventually become more convenient to eat than to go to the supermarket and picking out supposedly “fresh” produce. Most of the pains, aches, and illnesses we are experiencing are symptoms of over-exposure to chemicals and pollutants. When you start feeling anything other than healthy, it’s a sign that you need to change your lifestyle and be more careful of what it is you ingest, breathe in, and wear. To learn more about Darin: Website: https://darinolien.com/ Podcast: https://darinolien.com/podcasts/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darinolien/?hl=en Book: https://darinolien.com/fatal-conveniences-book/ My links: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to Habits in Hustle. Crescent. So I have one of my dearest friends on today, Darren O'Lean. That's how I pronounce your name. Is that okay? That's close to the Norwegian pronunciation. We used to call it, you see, it's O'Lean, but we still... Do you call you Darren O'Lean?

I always say O'Lean. I know, that's not the correct. You never correct me, so. I know, that's funny. But the... Oh, hilarious. The original, it's O'Lean. Was there Norwegian way of saying it? funny, but the, the, the, the, the, the original, it's Oolian. Was there norwegian way of saying it?

Oh, what do you prefer? I don't know, whatever comes out. Okay, well, that's what comes out. Darren Oolian, it is then. Oh, my gosh. Okay, this is gonna be a very interesting fun podcast because I can literally recite this entire book because I, I feel like I live it with you. But his new book is called Fatal Conveniences,

The Toxic Products, and Harmful Habits that are making you sick and the simple changes that will save your health. It sounds so doom and gloom. But yet, I have to say, it's information that I really believe everyone needs to know to really optimize and change their health for the better, which is why before you even go into it, I truly believe this is gonna be a massive hit because people need to hear this information and people will want their family and friends to read it. Is that what made you read it,

even though I know you live this day to day too? Yeah, well, nothing changes if nothing changes and so much of this is invisible, right? So if we don't acknowledge what's in our environment, and we definitely know, hundreds and hundreds and thousands of studies on all of this stuff that I'm mentioning in here, this is affecting our biology, this is affecting our environment, this is affecting our air, this is affecting our water, this is affecting our pets, this is affecting our children, these are affecting our food, this is affecting the water,

this is affecting the soil, this, you know, so it's all over the place. So yeah, I mean, did I want to have to write this book? No, I was compelled to, because you know, you've hung out with me long enough that I like to kind of deal with things honestly, straightforward and similar to relationships. If I have to say something, even though it's uncomfortable,

even though I don't want to, kind of have to. Right? And so that's the liberation of possibilities when you're actually willing to go into there. So the same, it's the same philosophy that I have with this. I saw my father suffering as in the 90s, right? So he was suffering from chemical sensitivity and you're like, what? What's going on? It's invisible. You can't understand it, but clearly he was being affected. So, you know, cut to 30 years later, I'm learning more and more along the way and come to realize that products that should be safe aren't necessarily safe. And there's thousands and thousands and thousands, literally 60 to 80,000 chemicals that are

just created every year. It's thrown into our environment, and they only deal with it relatively speaking when it becomes overwhelmingly necessary, when it causes a problem. This is not the plan to take on society. You don't just throw chemicals into a bunch of your personal care and beauty and children's products and clothing, and then go ahead, it's just small enough, it's not gonna cause any problems.

The problem is all of this stuff combined are undercutting the very fabric of our literal existence. I don't even mean to be dramatic. Literally, are to men's testosterone, women's testosterone's plummeting, right? Infertility is, we're sprinting toward the demise of even being able to produce normally between people having sex and having it viable, right?

So our motility of sperm and sperm count is completely, you know, we're sprinting towards disaster. And there's a lot of great books and researchers that have, that I've been inspired by, that I've used for this book to give context. If this is real data, real science, that's showing a lot of this stuff. And so again, I wanna deal with these things honestly, so that people can actually have the opportunity to have a great life, to not be a victim of something, you and I

and all of us have been born into. We've been born into this thing that was going on well before we got here. And now it's just growing, it's a growing problem. You know, you look at 1972 and they finally decided to ban DDT, right? Blasting all of our food and food production with DDT, well guess what's in the blood of most of us right now?

And they banned it in 72, DDT. And then we're still, we're finding this in the PFAS chemicals, the derivatives of Teflon. It's the same thing, it's showing up in all of our blood. And so this is not okay. And I don't want to wait around for someone out there or some organization or some government agency that I thought were supposed to regulate this stuff. That is not doing a very effective job. So, you know, ultimately underneath all of this,

I want to bring out the invisible to make it visible in terms of like the information and then go okay I'm looking at the back of this package and it has fragrances in there usually hidden by some proprietary you know loophole so they're not disclosing hundreds of chemicals largely a lot of it are hormonal deregulation disruptors disruptors so this is the opportunity. And again, I can really bring it down to like, if I were to show you something that's dangerous to use, but then I can just show you over here, use this or do it this way, it's that simple. And the last third of the book is all solutions.

It's to go like, hey man, if I can eat poison or eat this fresh fruit and veggies or whatever, just from a garden, your common sense will tell you, yeah, I'm probably going to eat that rather than knowingly eat poison, right? Or chemicals or ultra-process something. So that's what I want to raise. I want to raise the attention so we can intend something different, right? So we have the knowledge, at least starting to... This is a toe in the water. That's what's amazing to me. I remember when we did my book launch party at Barnes & Noble,

remember? And we talked about this a little bit. Someone asked a question on the panel. Your Darren was one of the people on my panel. I brought like three of my good friends. He was one of them, Emily, sex with Emily, it was the other, Max Luga, if you're a together. And when you were talking and like you said something

about you used one of the things that you talked about was the fatal convenience. The audience goes like a lot of people were there. It was like people were like in awe. And it was after the fact, I got so many DMs and messages about, I can't believe he said that, oh my God, I didn't know it, it disrupted the entire dynamic,

I guess, of the room, because people were so like, I guess I don't know if it was just like shocked or nervous or, and I want to bring it up. I also want to say what Darren does very nicely is, he doesn't just tell you about all the problems, but you do give people the solution. So this is not just about like, you know, we are all going to die in by 2025. It's like here, here is what's happening and here's how you can like fix it and here's a solution. It's not just like, blah This is terrible the EMFs. Let's talk about EMFs

Because all of us are very much affected by it like earbaths. Yeah, Bluetooth is a big one Yeah, it's a huge hormone Disruptor right. I want you to talk about it for your brain Also how bad are air buds to listen to and EMFs overall? Yeah, I mean, this is a big chapter. Two chapters. To the point where it could have been volumes of books. There's so much data all the way dating back to even electronics and turning on the first

telegraph. We knew that when you, you know, electricity is amazing because it allows us to turn on lights and use things. But every even electricity, even in wires, it has frequency and it has electromagnetic fields. And these things, they've known that unregulated or misgrounded even electricity in electromagnetic fields is connected to leukemia. There's a lot of studies, too many to even call out, on children in proximity to high amounts of electromagnetic fields that are contributing to leukemia.

And other types of cancers as well. So, you know, this is a topic where people can get really kind of roll their eyes, but if you start digging into the research, if you start looking at it, you will quickly realize that it was funny because I was just talking to the owner of a tech wellness this morning and She's who was chemical sensitive or chemical sensitive and electrosensitive so sensitive more There's there's about I think the stat is there's a Maybe seven to ten percent of the Americans are deemed electro-sensitive. So people are physically, they can't sit in this room

like you and I, right? And in my father's effort, he couldn't sit in this room for other things, for, you know, for meldahides and thalates and colors coming off of thing or cleaning products. So my dad suffered from that. So August from Tech Wellness was describing colors coming off of thing or cleaning products, so my dad suffered from that. So August from Tech Wellness was describing how she couldn't live in society because of this invisible electromagnetic radiation that's all around us.

So she developed a company that was then helping to contribute to lowering the amount of invisible radiation that's affecting all of us. So when it is that noticeable for someone, they are debilitated, right? So then you have to go into other things. The thing is, even though you're not being affected, even though I'm not feeling like I am, you're still biologic, you're still chemical, you're still physical. I just like the shampoo, just like the lotion, they're still causing you hormone disruption.

So that's the interesting thing. And we don't know it. Right, and we don't know. Is it because it's happening so slowly and it's- Slowly and it's continuous. And like some of these things are, you know, the half life of some of the chemicals are like a few hours. They thalate and the parabens, which aren't everything, right?

But then you have the forever chemicals, the PFOSes and stuff, which bio-acumulate. They can get into the fat tissue and stay there, which is also interesting because they're calling this term obisidgens, which then create a scenario metabolically that is shifting your ability to actually release weight because there's a toxic load attached to that and buried into the fat tissue. So that's a whole other thing. Then tell me, where do we find those? Like, in what products would we find that? That would be then.

Name me three. Yeah, so your lotions, your makeup, your shampoo and conditioner, your body wash. Personal hygiene. Yeah, so many of your personal hygiene stuff. So parabens and thalates, all of those things. You'll find, which I tried to in the book, I went into themes.

So I had a whole theme of a whole chapter to fragrances. Yeah. This fragrance is alone of a subset of loopholes around that. So then they can bury all of these toxic ingredients within and, quote, unquote, a protective IP of the company, which is just a lobbyist way of loopholing it so they can do what they want. So, but back to the EMFs, the quick summary on this because it's so complex. From knowing that these electromagnetic fields are dangerous, then telecommunications obviously came in, they created 1G, 2G, 3G, 4G, and now 5G. All of the 1, 2, 3, 4 are still here. They're not going away because we transition to 5G. All that really means

very simplistically is we've just added now more to it infinitely more because from a 5G it's a millimeter wave. So there's a different, these are different millimeter waves which doesn't allow them to travel as far. So therefore you need to buy at least 10 times, put up more towers in the environment for 5G to exist. So what does that mean? But we still have all the other towers from 1, 2, 3, 4. So that is... So think of it. It's going to be exponentially more pollution. Pollution and also toxic for your body. Exactly. So it puts you under a lot of stress. So many studies point to a

few things, which is weird because it represents things that almost chemical. They come into the same categories, right? So the EMF exposure, it shows that it puts the immune system under stress for sure. It increases free radical oxygen species, so free radicals. So that's why we need antioxidants. When the free radicals, they run crazy on a cellular level and they create inflammation, damage, etc. So we're creating more of those just being in these, you know, these fields all the time. Right. And then there's some scary things that which was, I didn't realize the alarming nature of this brain has got a blood brain barrier,

similar to the even the gut, right? And the gut opens up from exposure to antibiotics or glyphosate or whatever, undigested or material that should not be in the bloodstream, gets in the bloodstream and causes all kinds of problems. The blood brain barrier is even more intense. You do not want things that are not supposed to be in the brain.

And what they started to show was these proteins called albumins, that it was opening up these channels in the blood brain barrier allowing albumens to travel into the brain that aren't supposed to be there, so they create damage that way. And then, same thing, you're showing more endocrine disruption from the electromagnetic field, and you're showing testosterone. So, in summary, think of EMF's pollution that you can't see. It's similar to a playbook of smoking. At least, smoking, you were like seeing someone do something you're seeing the smoke. You could smell the smoke and you're like, oh, they got to stay away from that. I don't want to be secondhand taking any of that in. But

we can't see it. We can't smell it. We can't put our finger on that. Right. It seems intangible. Yeah. But it shows up in infinite amount of size. So think of your device. And I was saying throw away your device, but use precautionary things when you're using it, common sense. Even Apple started coming out saying, yeah, well, distance, don't put these things close to you. So you're actually not to put fine print,

shows on every device, you're not supposed to put it up to your head. It's supposed to be nine inches or or further away of your head. Right. And who's doing that, right? And kids and the brain imaging of these microwave radiation of kids are infinitely more susceptible because they're immune system and they're in the thickness of their skin. So this, this EMF radiation is going all the way through their brains.

So that's a danger, right? So that's, think of it as pollution that we're exposing because it's here. So, okay, with the phone, for example, what do we do? Don't put it up to your head anymore, okay? Right. Find a space you can take a call and a speaker, or plug back in, right?

We'll talk about how the earbuds, because you're putting them right into your ears, where it close to your brain. They're safe. Most people are like, oh yeah, that's safe. But you won't use them. I won't use them. Unless I only do it when I'm working out for one hour,

versus like, you know, that's my- All day, where a lot of this is. Yeah, that's my all day thing. But how does it show up? Is that you get, I know that they talk about it, does lower your testosterone? What else? Like give me some, like the tangible things it does.

That's the lower testosterone creates hormone disruption for females and males, right? Okay. And again, the free radical oxygen, so it's creating more free radicals in your body. Can you cause brain cancer? Yeah. So, Guy Lomas show up a lot, and this has been studied for a very long time. So, people with it up to their head, and a researcher was telling me this 20 years ago,

where, because you think of the body as electric, which it is, it's disrupting the pattern of RNA and DNA, and very clear in the research showing that senescence when cells are naturally replacing themselves all the time, it disrupts the body's ability to discard cells that are naturally dying. When that happens, you're creating a different microenvironment. You have now dead cells that the body is confused on getting rid of, so that is leading to environmental micro issues that potentially are creating these areas of carcinogenic activity.

So a lot of research around galomas and people just with these things up to the head all the time. So, you know, the FCC is just failed completely, miserably at its job because it's 20 years old. You think of, if you do an audit on a regulatory system or any business, if it's their business to understand the evolution of cell phones or technology electronics, and you were to say, wait a minute, you're still using your regulatory standards that are 20 years old when technology is advancing so fast, why would you be doing that? Why haven't you updated what those frequencies, what the electromagnetic, and so they're using, they're all they're using as proximal heat. So this state of energy regulation, so it's like, hey, if it's close to you, it burns you.

That's the regulation. They're not talking about the electromagnetic fields or the frequencies or the types of frequencies that come off these things, which clearly shows in the research that this is causing infertilities and testosterone and galomas and all that stuff. And in 93 to 94, the EPA was actually doing a lot of studies finding out issues on cell phones and then they lost some funding and then all of the regulations that the EPA was doing on which fell in their lap to do this protection for us. It went into the FCC. And the FCC didn't say anything about what the EPA was finding in terms of the telecommunication.

And then they just said, well, it's thermal heat. That's the only regulation we're going to give to it. And so it just makes no sense whatsoever. So your solution would be? So just to answer the yourbud thing? Yes, please. It's the same frequency of the phone, just less of intensity, less kind of amplitude of energy going through it. So it's better to use the air buzz than put the phone towards your ear. Yes. But it's still disruptive. Think of it, you're still knowingly putting a call it pollution.

You're knowingly causing pollution in the cranium of your head. So man, you don't have to fight against it. Just plug back in. And how much is it, by you using the headphones that you plug in, how much do you know the exact amount of how much better it is? Like it's 50% better, it's 20% better.

Do you know what? Better in terms of what? Then using the air butt, like the ear butt. Yeah, well, you're not getting exposed to that. So it's just, it's 100% better, basically. Yeah, there's, there's, which is even the best ones, there's air tubes. So there's a line with an air tube

and you can still see it and that's what I use. So I put earphones in with an air tube. It doesn't allow the electromagnetic, any electromagnetic field to come through that air tube. Where'd you get them? Oh, they're just tech wellness as a has a function. Why didn't you show them to me before? I can only give you so much stuff.

Well, that's a good one though. Don't you want to save my life? I would think you would. I do. I just told you. You just did and you told them. I hope you're throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out. I'm gonna throw it out.

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I mean, you don't need it on you. And if it is on you, turn it off or on airplane mode. On airplane, how much does it save you in terms of the radiation even from, when you put on an airplane mode? It's hard to tell. I mean, it's hard to measure because it fluctuates all the time. The phone is constantly...

Picking signals. Picking, and so the lower bars you have, the harder your phone is working. So when you're, especially when you barely have signal, your phone is constant because it's constantly looking for that connection. For a connection. Yeah, for that connection. For a connection. Well, this goes to, and you'll notice that I'm not wearing my watch, my Apple watch today,

because I knew you were coming. You won't wear any of these devices, like sleep devices, watches, because you know it's funny, because now that, you know, we're friends, I see like the green light underneath, like that clearly can't be good to be right on your skin to run your pulse point. Yeah, right on your pulse points. I'm gonna say all day. I mean that cannot be good for you and people now with technology. I mean people are wearing so many devices not only they wearing the headset, the earphones, all ear buds all day but they're wearing the sleep trackers and the watches and everything. Like, are we just like giving ourselves cancer? So like 20 years maybe prior to when we would,

like what is happening? Yeah, I mean, just think of it in terms of stress. It's stress. We're just causing, these are polarized energy fields. And the environment, it's non-polarized, right? We think of it in terms of like, if I polarized the sun, that would be like taking a magnifying glass

and then using, having the sun hit it, and then I can burn something. Think of that, that's polarization. That's the kind of energy that we created, that's non-biologically assimilative, that is pointing to that phone to make it work. So that's the polarizing energy is very disharmoning for us. Well, so interesting is the irony, right?

Because these are all devices and things to try to optimize our health. The trackers. Everything, all the trackers and like productivity of our life right now, because everything right now I feel, and you probably agree, it's very trendy and hashtag worthy to be like wellness and productivity and all of these things, but yet the ways that people are getting there are actually, the opposite, the antithesis, it's like very harmful,

right, with doing all of these things, because it's giving off so much other stuff. So what would be your solution to people? Should they just not use sleep trackers? Should they not use the Apple watches? I mean, I can't, I don't give advice. Like I'm just supply, supply some in making. I want you, for me, I don't use anything.

So we know how to sleep, we know how to, you know, listen. Follow this, go to back to nature. Start there first before you start needing to track as a guarantee, whether you had a freaking tracker or not, like, I could just say, well, what are you doing? They go, I'm working on them. I'm staying on my phone. I'm staying up all night. I'm doing enough. I should figure out how bad I'm sleeping. You're sleeping bad. Yeah. I know. The irony is, isn't the stress of just trying to figure out how bad I'm sleeping. You're sleeping bad. Yeah. I know. The irony is isn't the stress of just trying to figure out all this shit, making you more stressed out

and sleeping less. So use your common sense. No one has common sense is not that common. You know that. But it's 100% true. And let me say this, because I know Darren, and he is real and as authentic as they come. He's not just bullshit, he's not just writing a book and

dispewing out nonsense. You literally practice what you preach. You live by this 24. I see he lives in a York for God's sakes and he does not wear any trackers and he will not drink out of this plastic ball. I mean Everything you do is so true to who you are, what you say is who you are, and it is as honest as they come. I know it. And if you see him, you're not wearing one tracker, you are like, you look like the epitome of health. That's probably mostly genetics, but that's whatever.

You'll say it's not, but. I've been working out all my life. I know he gets fat, I'm gonna say that. I'm a lot of plants, all my life. It's a lot of plants. Everyone's perfect. No. In their own, just like let's express our own perfection,

instead of getting the crappied out of us by stupid systems. But what I love is the fact that we're talking about common sense, right? Like, people are wearing 77th, people come to my house and they're wearing 77 different trackers. They're wearing the rings, the watches, the, and two watches sometimes, and they have the trackers everywhere on their bodies, the glucose levels, and all of this stuff at the end of the days, and they're all attached to their phones, right, because of the, you get the information to your phone.

And you're saying that all of those things are just, they are harmful. Well, listen, there are lower levels of energy for sure. If you wanna use them and gather some data, but then 24, seven and all of this stuff, it's a little overboard. Just if you're literally lost and you need some data points, I'm not saying like don't use it, get some data points, whatever, don't make it a big deal.

It's like this is a journey. I'm not perfect all the time. I gotta get on a plane. I get the crappy anatomy with radiation, but I also use the best I can. I've got silver, EMF protection, clothing. I'm doing a mitigating. I never go into the TSA scanner.

I'm glad. I'm so glad that you said that. You know that my mom told me, never to go into that TSA scanner. I'm glad. I'm so glad that you said that. You know that my mom told me never to go into that TSA scanner. She told me this 25 years ago. And everyone laughed at her and me. And they're like, your mom is so overprotective. She's so crazy.

Why is she saying this? Even today, I still don't go through those things. And people laugh at me still to this day. Can we talk about those scanners a little bit? Yeah, I mean, the information on this is so buried. So buried, that's why I want you to bring it to life. And I really, I tried. I really tried to find as much as I possible,

but the funny thing is there was no real strong data to show that it was harmful. I just found all of these people saying the same thing. Going, oh, it's not ionizing. It's fine. We used to have x-rays, which was ionizing and killing people. Like, we stopped that. And then you keep digging and they're saying the same script in a certain sense. And like, listen, this is, this is, again, people are making this weird argument because they haven't looked enough. Ionizing radiation clearly is DNA fucking damaging and ripping apart, right?

Those are x-rays. We know that. That's on the fall of their spectrum. And then as you come up the spectrum, it moves into non-ionizing. It goes into UVA, UVB, it goes in a microwave, all of that stuff. It also goes in the extremely low frequency, which is what we were talking about with the Fitbits. This is called extremely low frequencies.

But now they're starting to find this constant exposure is again, stress, and there's also showing that there's a great book called Open Something, Dr. Shanna that come to me, a great book where she epidemiologically is looking at this. And this is starting to cause epidemiological effects into the next generation from extremely low non-ionizing radiation because what's happening is what people don't want it just because acutely it's not ripping the DNA apart. Right. That over time the stress that I talked about before Just spending like half of the podcast on EMFs, but I know because this is by the way. This is one chapter

So just to finish that point the extremely low EMFs is causing stress on the DNA, on the cells, creating, and it's showing up in motility. Listen, that is how we move the human race forward. If you are hurting something that's stopping and thwarting the human race from moving forward, it's probably not a good thing. You you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that is from the data showing that that's happening. So I am not a fan of saying, as long as it's non-ionizing, it's fine. It's not fine.

The data doesn't support that. It's persistent, which is this whole book, these things are cumulative, right? These are constantly coming. These are a body burden that continue to add up on top of each other. This is why it's dangerous. It's we can't get it, you know, listen,

the phthalates, the parabens, all this stuff in our personal care, our shampoos, our conditioners, our makeup, all that stuff. Those have half-lifes, and that's true. They come in at a body, the body metabolizes, going, oh, get that out. But then with this other forever chemicals, it's got, doesn't wanna leave.

The problem is, you put the lotion on, and that half-life is a few hours, but you just already started with the shampoos in that half-life, and so now you're layering on top, now youlife is a few hours, but you just already started with the shampoos and that half-life. And so now you're layering on top, now you're putting the makeup on and all that stuff, but now you're putting the clothes on and then you wash the clothes in a certain laundry detergent that had all those other chemicals in there too. So now you've added layers and layers and layers of parabens and thalates and PFOS and

fragrances and all of this stuff. And then you're coming home and then what's in your home? What's the cleaning products in your home? What's the stain that they use? What's the fire retardant in the thing? So again, I don't want to freak people out. But if we can lessen the cumulative load, that's how we get better.

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Okay, so moving on from the EMFs, let's talk about spandex because every girl and I know including me now, especially with athletic leisure being the most popular way people, women, girls are dressing now, that's even a fatal convenience. Tell us why. Well, what do you think spandex is made of? I want you to say it because you're the expert. Right. So spandex is a derivative of petroleum.

It's the best. Materialized, I don't know where. What is it, sorry, say it again. Petroleum, right? So plastics, nylons, elastane, the thing that makes it stretchy, that's petroleum, right? So these are polyurethane, these are lab-created, petroleum-based, non-regulated chemicals.

And you know how many chemicals it took to make that? So like are lulu lemons and aloe and all that? I mean, I don't call out any companies in the thing, but if they're producing these things that are elastane and polyurethane and Nylons and all of that stuff. Yes, these things have been shown to listen. Your skin is your body It's been shown and now you're using it. You're sweating on it. It's on your you know genitalia and these things are taking in those endocrine disruptors and it shows links to endometriosis and infertility and endocrine disruption.

Again, you're putting, knowingly, putting plastics and thalates and petroleum derivatives on your body and then you work out in it. Your body heats up, has the propensity to receive more. What happens when you put tea and a hot liquid? Pulse in, right? That's the beauty of getting compounds from heat, right? It pulls in, so transdermally, it increases your viability of taking in more of these chemicals.

Same thing with wrapping your food, especially warm food and plastics. We know this without a doubt, this is not anything other than real data. Real data shows that the food has thallates in it. Real data showing this is connected to potential kidney problems, kidney disease. So these kinds of things are causing, again,

more and more stress. And we're looking for form-fitting. Now, is there better alternatives? Yes. More and more happenings. Is it fast enough? No. I wish some of these other companies

would kind of make these changes because what's going to happen is, and here's the name of the game the name of the game is We put pressure on them then when it becomes overwhelming Then they make a change and until then no one does anything right so they so so again Unregulated or very little regulated Loop holes and then when it gets overwhelming by us saying, hey man, I don't want to put that on my body anymore, then a change happens, or potentially a change happens. So how about cotton? Would it be better to work out in cotton, like

basic cotton, or polyester, without spandex? I'm just making up like a... Yeah, polyester is a chemical. I know, I'm saying the coquite cotton. Cotton, so maybe better, but organic cotton, the best, or other silk, or hemp, or things like that, and they're doing incredible with weaves. But do they look okay? I mean, there's two things, right? Let's talk realistic, okay, because how much of these things cost for these solutions because silk would be extra really expensive to work

But then you know buying 700 of them. Okay, so how many how many how many different how many do you have how many different Spandex outfits do you have a lot? Yeah, how many how many? How many a lot? 10 12 15 I don't know a lot because I'll tell you why. You probably have 30. I probably have like 100, but I wanted to sound a little bit less, you know. So, so what? That's only because, this is what I do. I work out a lot. I live in them. I don't wear

, this is basically the way I live in. I don't wear fancy clothes. So think about that. So then you're living in them too. That's what I'm saying. But why I'm bringing this up is I'm not alone. Most girls, women I know, they live in there, spat, they live in there, like, in their workout clothes. You know, that's what we do now. And it's become like the thing to do. Like, no one's really wearing jeans

and fancy clothes anymore. So, I have a lot of pairs. And plus it's what I do, I love to work out. So, I'm actually have probably more than the average bear. And even if not, to work out and silk or hair. How about shorts? How about some cute little shorts and you don't have to put all this other stuff on?

That's a good option, I'm just saying. Some good, cute, healthy shorts, and you don't have to always put the fricking spandex on, but it's better for your skin anyway. 100%. That's a great alternative. I'm saying like some of these alternatives. So here's my, if the solutions haven't caught up

to everything, maybe, right? There's some, even after the book, I've heard of some better alternatives for spandex and things like that. Like what, the silk. Yeah, there's some silk, but there's also a company that's doing it working with a lot of the brands right now called Kentra. So they're using instead of oil polymers,

a petroleum polymers, they're using sugar polymers to get the same sort of thing. Also, there's the elastic jeans. They're using different polymers to make those healthy that you can actually put the genes back in the earth And it will fertilize the next generation of cotton. So there is some great solutions I would just say hey, I mean minimize your exposure Like minimum keep minimizing your exposure

Buy into your next generation of clothing that is going to be beneficial for you. And also put some pressure on the companies. Yeah, that's not the same. Like say, listen, you know, the Lululemon's, the thing like that, hey, hey, we love your brand. We love it. It's stylish. It's cool.

It's whatever. I'm not even here to demonize them, right? They're just doing what they're doing, right? And so so many companies are, we all need to work together, but as a populist, as the people listening today, write them a freaking email, you know, write them a DM. I don't know this. So don't quote me. I can almost guarantee because they've already been receiving pressure, because the world is changing. I have to believe that more,

more people care about what's in our stuff, right? They have probably started to move on trying to make better choices. They just haven't publicly said it because they don't wanna undercut their existing selling business before they have a viable solution. So put pressure on them because we the people, man,

and I don't mean that facetiously. I mean, we have over 7 billion of us. We have more power than anything, and that's where my optimism comes in. Like, I'm extremely optimistic because I'm finding solutions all the freaking time every week. I know. Right? I'm finding incredible solutions for these things. And I get inspired. I got to do a TV show out of the whole damn thing. We get to find great people, highlight

what they're doing, solve a problem, you know, better a situation. This is it. This is the spirit of being human. Yeah. Like let's face the problems that were like, okay, it's lazy. It's a lazy to make that out of oil. Or is it not as effective? Like if you're using sugar as your elastic versus what is actually known to be really effective, is it just an inferior product? Well, you define inferior, but I will say for sure,

these, we've become really good at it. This is just a system that we created over a long period of time. If anyone a hundred years ago would have said you're making clothes out of oil, they would be like, why would you do that? Right. But we did it.

Right, so we're really good at it. And it's really good at its job. Plastic is really good at containing things and it's cheap as hell to put it into clothing. It's cheap as hell to make water bottles out of it. It's cheap as hell to form it into anything you want and put your food in it. It's easy to, as a takeaway,

it's easy to use as a single use like fork. Like it's easy. Okay, but come on. Like it's it's now it's the bad version of circular economy. We're doing these things. It's affecting you now. So it's affecting you now. You throw those away eventually. There is no away, Jennifer. There is no place this goes where it's a way. There is no way to deal with it. So it gets buried or it biodegrades after 500 to 1,000 years. It's in that process microblasting the environment with plastics.

It's then neutering the insects and the other animals. It's now going back into the soil, back into the water, and then you know what shows up when you turn on your faucet, your freaking yoga pants, your plastic water bottle that you threw away, meaning that we're just doing all this stuff. It's a circle, it's a cycle. Yeah, it's a cycle that's not in our best interest.

It's got a, you know, it's that bad commercial where we're saying, hey, you know, we do this, but then you have all these side effects. Every one of these fatal convenience is a list of side effects that it has. Okay, cool. You can do whatever you want. I'm not here to convince you.

I'm not here to convince them. It's not, I'm not here to convince everyone to do, you don't have to live my life. You don't have to do anything. But I want you to have some information. All I really want you to do is go, hey man, live your life the most extraordinary way possible. Live your dreams, go for it, let it rip.

But just be aware that you're doing this and it's undercutting your life. And you can just do that, right? So keep doing it. Because largely life is built upon habits. And we have, you know? And if we're being undermined by our habits, you know what, it affects our hustle. Because if you're being hijacked by the endocrine system,

all the time, with all of these chemicals, which you are every woman on average is exposed to 126 chemicals every day, just in her personal care world. 126, likely, carcinogenic, and mostly endocrine disrupting. How much can you hustle when you're all whacked out, when girls are being forced into pre-menstrual? Well, that's true because all the hormones that are happening now, people are getting their periods way younger. Exactly. And it keeps on cutting down your younger.

Those are the false astrogens that bind to the receptors from all of these damn plastics. No, and what I was gonna also say was interesting is a long time ago, someone was crazy for saying that plastic was harmful, right? And now it's like a mainstream known piece of information that don't drink at a plastic or plastic that's heated, it basically goes right into your food

and goes right into your systems. But 20 years ago, people weren't talking about that. And even with that makeup, right? heated, you know, basically it goes right into your food and goes right into your systems. But 20 years ago, people weren't talking about that. And even with that makeup, right? Because now people are talking about parabins and all those things. So a lot of the things that are in the book now that people are not aware of, that because it's not mainstream, will become mainstream in many years to come. But so why wait and be aware of it now?

Can you talk about one that is really surprising that people would never have thought of? That is really disruptive, like a fatal convenience that's super disruptive that we would never have thought of? Well, I mean, the one that I said in the talk that we did always freaks people out is the dental floss. Yes. The dental floss. Yes.

The dental floss is so wild because, I mean, what a perfect fatal convenience, because it's a convenience of that, you know, when they developed instead of just a string, they developed a thin film, and then they put some slippery substance on it, and then it goes, oh, wow, I don't have bleeding glums. And I can slide this right in between.

How great is that? I now have a somewhat enjoyable experiment, experience as I floss my teeth. Yeah. Guess what's on that? Peafoss, right? So it's heat resistant, stain resistant, things don't stick to it, and it slides easy.

So it's what Teflon is, right? Yeah, so it's a derivative. It's basically the grandson of Teflon. So, but here's the thing, there's zero regulation. None because it's dental floss is deemed a medical device. So they don't have to disclose anything. Nothing. Wow, it's deemed a medical device.

Yeah, and then this, that PFAS, that dental floss, there was a study showing that it was linked to kidney cancer, directly. So what are we doing, right? And it's so interesting because, you know, you think the FDA, the USDA, the FCC, the EPA, you think someone's like, you can't possibly just throw these products out there.

If they're dangerous, right? You just can't pass it. There's no way. There's no way. You can hear the older generation going, I just know way, right? But the truth is, that's absolutely the opposite. And in terms of this PFAS thing, which is finally starting to get, maybe because I'm staring at it every day and aware of this,

but it's starting to get called out. Coca-Cola got caught after my book was done. They had a, I think it was called Simply Orange product in plastic, of course. Which one did not fade all the super life? No, no, no, this book. So Coca-Cola was called out? No, no, no this book. So Coca-Cola was called out? No, no, no.

So I was doing this book. Yeah. After I was finished with the book, I saw that Coca-Cola had their product simply orange with some sort of fake orange juice had over 200 different PFAS chemicals in the orange juice being sold every day. And they finally were someone tested it and called them out and all that stuff.

So it's like some citizen or some third party NGO tested it, which, you know, listen, I call out a lot of great stuff the environmental work in group does. They do a lot of investigative stuff to try to, because again, they're filling the gaps. We are filling the gaps of the regulatory bodies that have unfortunately been lobbied into oblivion and doesn't have our best interest.

So, you know, in terms of the PFAS, all of this attention is starting to get. So then they enact by the government the toxic standard control act, which is now given the ability to regulate PFAS. And you're like, wait a minute. But you already had a regulated body, the EPA or the FDA. But since there's pressure, now they enact another one, and then companies come out and say, yep, we're gonna eliminate PFAS from our wrappers because

they wrap food with PFAS so shit doesn't stick to it. So people eating ultra-process take away food, that's also wrapped in PFAS. Like fast food. Yeah. So fast food is wrapped in PFAS wrappers. What else would be wrapped in that? Gum wrappers I would imagine. Yeah, anything that energy bars,

that kind of stuff. Things like you would never think of that. Yeah, and so PFOS is in that. Coaching bars. And mascara that doesn't wipe off, lipstick that doesn't wipe off, blush that doesn't wipe off, leather products that don't stain carpets

that are wrinkle or like stain-free clothing that is wrinkle-free. All of that is a sign to run the other way because that's usually just a PFAS. Chemical, it's not on the back of the label, it's not on the back of the product. It's a chemical inside and it's not disclosed. So... How did you figure this all out? There must have been a... How long did it take you to write the book and how did you figure this all out? There must have been a, how long did it take you to write the book

and how did you figure this all out? Because if people are hiding this information, how were you able to enclose it? Like, or disclose it. Again, there's a lot of great companies doing it. There's a campaign for safe cosmetics. They're doing great work, environmental work, and group clearly.

And all you have to do is Google search, Google searching. I mean, but then, where I really would find the good research and the good information, because like you said, the algorithms don't necessarily pop up with like, it's killing you. So I'd read good books, right? So good books of people really dedicated to this stuff. Then you would like, oh, wow. Like Dr. Leo Trasande wrote a great book on Endocrine Disruptors, Sicker Fatter Porer.

That's an incredible book. And he was standing on the shoulder of his giant. So he's a medical doctor that was dedicated to this and then his colleagues. So then I read that thing and then go and holy shit and then you're finding out all of his sighted research and then you're digging into that and so it becomes then you start finding the portals. You start finding these things and plus I had over 20 researchers Jennifer. There's no way and And this, so this, particularly, two and a half years,

being exposed to this originally has been 30 from my father being one of the first. Can you talk about your father because you brought him up a few times and just explain to people a little bit like what happened to your father? Yeah, yeah, so my dad was a high functioning guy. He was a professor at the University of Minnesota.

He then got another master's and became a counselor at the University of Minnesota. And in that process and that transition, I think he was there for a year or two, or maybe more, I don't remember, because I was off at college. He started to get fogged out in his brain. And he was a high functioning guy, right?

Academic researcher, but a huge heart. And then he would start discovering these headaches and couldn't think, couldn't sleep, very uncomfortable. And so he'd go to a bunch of doctors, and finally, a few doctors put it together, he goes, it is a process of elimination, too. They were like, you might have what's called emerging condition called chemical sensitivity. So we start eliminating fragrances, colognes, shampoos, conditioners, off-gassing of azodise

from colored shirts, whatever it was, right? His environment. He neutered his environment from smelly stuff, chemical smelly stuff. And came to find out like he started to feel better, but then he had a forced retirement because he couldn't educate his entire wing of his university. So he literally had to retire under a disability. And this spiraled him a bit. And he was loved people, he loved to help,

and then he would have to distance himself. So early on in college, in order to go back home and see my father, he would send me a care package of the right deodorant to use, shampoo to use, unscented, laundry detergent, all of that stuff. Because if I was going to be around him, laundry detergent, all of that stuff, because if I was going to be around him, I couldn't have any of that on. What would happen to him besides fogginess if he was around him?

He couldn't function. He couldn't sleep. He was the thing of it, like, you know, ever seen anyone with a migraine? It's kind of looking like that. You're just out of it. Just out. And it took him so long to recover. So if he smelled something in any place, you would immediately leave,

like sprint out of there, because he knew if he got affected, his body to process that and to get it out took a very long time. So then that forced his retirement. He was, you know, slightly depressed, probably very depressed. He was 30 years sober.

He started drinking again after that. And it probably all the pressures of whatever was happening. I think it was very linked, though, to this debilitating thing and him being isolated from the world essentially. And then he picked up, you know, he couldn't get sober again after 30 years of sobriety and ended up dying

about colonialism. And so there's a chapter dedicated to him. And, you know, again, one of the caveats here is it was set up because he was also, he didn't have a thyroid anymore because he was part of the Navy that dealt with atomic bombs during the Cuban muscle crisis called the Keepers of the Dragon. And so they also didn't use a lot of precaution when you're playing with an atomic bomb. And so his thyroid got wiped out.

Yeah. So when this didn't happen until you were how old? Well, that was in college. Right? So you weren't living in this right? So when but when you did see him you had to like do all the all those precautionary things How much of it did you think was psychosomatic mental versus originally? I thought it was all psychosomatic right because if you're hearing that for the very first time You're going what are you talking about? I like, why you?

I've never seen anyone, right? And clearly he was compromised because his, his one of his mastery glands is thyroid was already compromised. Right. So there's immune system. Plus he'd been an alcoholic in his liver in processing things. It was very low as well. So I see an alcoholic when you were little,

or maybe you got sober when I was four. Okay, so you don't even remember him being an alcoholic. Other than him giving me the scar on my hand. Yeah, I see it from what would he do? He didn't, didn't mean to, he was just drunk. So I was sitting on the stoop in from the house into the garage and he slammed the door. And he didn't know I was there and it threw me into his sea of beer bottles

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He was angry. He never dealt with any of the emotions. So he was like what they call a dry drunk. He was very hard. Disciplinar. It's someone that hasn't done with the emotion. So he's just angry, hasn't done dealt with himself. And he's just angry, hasn't done dealt with himself, and

he's just judgmental and intense and yelling and screaming, and that was most of my life, my father. And then, as I kind of matured, we got closer, you know, after he divorced my mom, and then I really started to understand him when I was in my 20s and 30s and 40s, kind of 40s, yeah. But he passed 23 years ago, yeah. But he was a exceptional dude, like amazing guy. Yeah. Wow. And so then you believe then it was after you got over the whole, like I thought I think it was crazy, that it was all actually true physical, it wasn't a mental health issue. 100% because I had talked to his doctors too. Because at that point, they, you know,

a few of them, one that diagnosis had been dealing with a few people, because he was up in the Twin Cities of Minnesota, so there was more population that there was starting to pop up. What would be some of the symptoms that people would notice from maybe doing all these fatal conveniences that we're not aware of? If it's not full blown, right?

It's tricky, it's tricky because you can't identify it. You can't identify like you can't say this is happening because of this. But it can show up as why do I have endometriosis, clean up my environment, why don't I have the energy that I want, why am I not losing the weight? How come I'm getting sick all the time? How come I can't heal fast enough? Like these kinds of things, you're not optimal. That's what I mean.

Like when I wrote super life, obviously completely dedicated, I'm gonna eat the best foods ever, right? Get hydrated, eat your plants, eat fresh, all of that stuff, you know, increase your microbiome, all that stuff. But if we're not dealing with this invisible, stressed out polluted world, then they go together.

Right. Right. So that was all the reason. It's like working out, but eating french fries and McDonald's every day. Right. The old school way was like, well, I burned seven under calories, so I'm gonna eat this donut that's 600, and I'm still good.

Absolutely, right, exactly. And a milkshake, you know, to wash it down. So it's exactly it. Like, it's basically, so at the end of the day, it's about, you know, if you, somebody might be having a health concern or an issue, and they're not even putting two into together because they don't know what they don't know Yeah, exactly and so I think that the the the idea is to learn like you can open up. This is a resource book

Yeah, I like that. I know you can open it up and just read one page. You're gonna learn something every page You can learn something. It's like this is what I like about this book. Every page is like fatal conveniences, Wi-Fi and routers. You know, like things that people don't even think about would be something. And you're gonna get those people going, ah, come on, they're safe. Okay, then you can believe that all you want.

Exactly. Your biology, your chemistry, your body has to deal with your insane point of view that you haven't looked at. Like don't throw out all this stuff if you haven't looked at this stuff, right? Yeah, at least like kind of make sure that you have the knowledge and then you can make a decision.

Then you can decide to put those earbuds in your mouth and your mouth. And you're in your ear. You can decide, hey, like duct tape the damn cell phone up to your head if you think that these are exactly. Again, it's not my job. I dug into this stuff. I used 20 researchers. These are my conclusions. Not really conclusions. These are most of them I lead with questions. Does this sound healthy to you? Is this something that you feel so good

that you're, you're, you're okay with using it this way? What I really want is people to enact these solutions so that they can like just celebrate things that are life-giving that are not like detrimental. And 100%. You know? What do you believe? I mean, I just like, as I was, as you were talking,

I'm just like kind of going through the book again. And you say anti-aging creams. You call out anti-aging creams, not just cream. What's in anti-aging cream that would be a fatal convenience that maybe we're not aware of, that would be different than let's say, and it's more of a concentration of more of the things. Number one, it's greenwashing. It's not true. There's no anti-aging cream. If you get into peptides or something, that's a whole nother thing.

That's not what I'm talking about. Some lotion that's saying, hey, we're gonna base, it's basically as good as a facelift, and they're blasting you with parabens and thalates and false claims that they really don't have to substantiate. So the intensity around that is really why I call it. That was a good example of just a blatant green wash, toxic annihilation of taking advantage of people. It's just a higher version of harsh chemicals.

Think of things going on in your skin as food and as nutrition. We're thinking of it as trying to be miraculous with chemicals. No, feed it with nutrition. My good friend Ben Fuchs is a pharmacist I've known for 25 years at a Boulder, Colorado. He has this incredible skin nutrition line called truth treatments. And his vitamin C serum is 78% vitamin C, like not 2%, not 0.2% like all this other crap. Like he uses real stuff. That's a call to his line.

Truth treatments. Can I have some? Yeah. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I just talked to him and he just gave me, I just received his stuff. Again, I'm known him, but I didn't know he was going down this doing do he's been creating skin stuff for as long as I've known him And by the let me tell you Darren would not be talking about this or promoting it for money

It's because he honestly believes in it like I I promise you this is not just him like spewing stuff because of Like a sponsorship deal like Darren's the antithesis opposite of that. Except why I said. I mean, I'm gonna promote my book. I'm gonna promote my baruchas, like I'm gonna promote things. I mean, that's like goes with that thing. Things that I did. But you actually genuinely do,

and you would never promote anything unless you genuinely believe it and do it yourself. I do, it makes Melissa my CEO crazy. I go talk with this all the time. I do it. It makes Melissa, my CEO, crazy. I go talk with this all the time. I go up, we were very close, but then all of a sudden, I saw all these plastics in this plant-based meal program. It was like incredible thing. I know, it's incredible.

It's a, I'm not gonna say it, don't worry, it's a very well-known food company that everyone loves. I can't do it. Like, it's your turn. Darren would not promote it., don't worry, Daren. But it's a very well-known food company that everyone loves. I can't do it. Daren would not promote it. I can't do it. You send me this stuff and it's got, okay, it's recycled plastic, but I can't do it.

I don't want my food touching plastic. By the way, I feel from a list that when I work with Daren, this happened with me in you all the time because Daren would be a gazillionaire if he allowed it to happen, but he will not because he has too much integrity way too much integrity. And so you turned down that food company. Yeah, unless they're going to help me change.

And they won't. Unless they are going to let me help them change their packaging, which I can because I know big companies doing great stuff. Yeah, but there's also other ones doing in state of California we just found out and ones doing glass. They're sending meals around glass. That's so good.

Yeah, yeah. But very expensive. It's very expensive, but. That's what I'm saying. Some of these things are quite expensive and it's, you know. And some of us, yeah, it's like if you can afford it great. But at the end of the day, here's what I think about food. Plant some damn seeds.

Put some seeds in the ground, grow some stuff, stop watering your lawn, take half of it, and grow food. Like, this is how we founded the America. This is how we can create food security. Like, let's do that. So we don't have to buy. So I don't have to spend a thousand dollars a month having people send me food.

Again, I'm not knocking at it because if it is convenience, convenience hell. When those foods showed up, I was like, holy crap. That's so convenient, right? Of course, but it's like, let's just look at this honestly. Let's look at all of this stuff honestly and then make your choice. Right, and read a label. When you read labels, it has too many things listed.

Chances are, it's not good for you. I mean, it's almost 100% guaranteed. If you're not purposely looking for something that has, for example, phallate, free, plastic, free, paraben, free, PFAS, free, you know, BPA-free, BPH free. If you're not consciously looking for it

and the company's not shining it out in their marketing, then chances are you're sucking down some chemicals. I don't want 100% true. And then baruchas. So Darren has this company. There's a nut, it's called the barucha nut. I mentioned it before because I eat them.

They are number other delicious, but they are 25% more with is more protein, less calories, more fiber, more nutrients, period than any other nut in the entire world, better than an almond, better than a walnut, and they're called baroukas. And Darren is the guy who started it. And what's happening with baruchas? Do you want to kind of tell people because they are delicious? That's great.

We have a new partner, Steve Favos, who's been a very good friend for 15 years. He's such a sweet soul and I'm so grateful. We get to resurrect baruchas. It almost was going down. That's shame. That was tough. Those tough.

Yeah, so internal conflicts of partners and stuff, no one fault. It almost was going down. That was shame. That was tough. Those tough. Yeah, so internal conflicts of partners and stuff, you know, no one fault. It just wasn't working. Chemistry, right? And so we're now got a new team and we just got some tests done. So we got a third party Swiss test by this company. We're one of the highest, ecologically beneficial companies that they've tested so far. So it's literally good.

We have one of our slogan is good for you and good for the planet and we can validate that. It's a wild food, there's no irrigation. So this is in the wild and we collect it in the Sahadu of the Brazil and it's being threatened by deforestation. So us creating value in these trees again over the deforestation of them, and for the indigenous people, fairly is super protective of a biome

that is intimately connected to the Amazon of the health of the Amazon too. So they're very connected. And then on top of it, they taste amazing, and the nutrient value per calorie blows everything away. It just checks all the boxes of really wanting to make a change through conscious consumerism and get a great product out to people. Yeah, super stoked.

Because Darren, you know, it's in the buy, I, in the intro, but Darren is technically the one and only super food hunter. So he hunts the best of the best super foods around the world and brings it to I guess mainstream, you know, obviously he had the show down to Earth with Zach Efron on Netflix. And Shakeology. And for any development, I got a bunch of Shakeology for you. I was going to ask you about that. Did you bring the chocolate by a chance?

I got it all. I've been like, so, thank God I have, thank God I have you as a friend. You keep me, like, you keep me happy. And people don't realize that, I've been drinking that, that creation for sick, you know, since 2006.

Like that. So he developed Shakeology, you guys, for Beach Body, which is truly, it's a $4 billion. Well, it's done over $4 billion. Yeah, it's done over $4 billion. Since 2008, when it finally launched. It's Beach Body's most successful product. It's not P90X, it's not insanity.

For those of you who want, who know what Beach Body is, it is Shay Collegey. That's the lights on, basically. Well, I'm not gonna say that, but. I'm telling you, I that. I'm telling you. But it's a team. Like, Carl, Daikler, Lovem, Isabel, Daikler couldn't have done it without her. They allowed this crazy guy running around the world, finding stuff, and enough of the vision coming together with Isabel to be able to go, hey, we can do something that no

one's doing. Yeah. We can, we can, like crank and it took,. We can, we can, we can, the gracious dude. Like crank and it took by the way, just to create clean flavors, you have to go to the flavor houses and specifically ask for natural ingredients, how they're gonna do it.

So we had to align, because natural flavors, they still allow things that you don't want in your product. So we set new standards. We have, people don't know that. No, they don't. They don't want in your product. So we set new standards. We have... People don't know that. No, they don't. They don't know the standards. And then people steal our formula and create a cheaper product all the time. And the millions and millions and millions of dollars, the over 1500 different tests per

batch. So we test everything, right? Amazing. And make sure that the compounds are in there. Make sure that we don't have contaminations of form. Even now, after all, after all, after all these years later. Of course. This is like, and we're still, listen, I still have meetings. Do you really? I'm literally have one after this podcast. Seriously?

Yeah. Of course. All the time. I love that. Yeah, of course all the time We're always in reinventing the formula. It's just a big ship to change So some of the formula upgrades we're creating for next year We've been dialing it in for three really to implement it is just it takes a bit Well, I was gonna ask you I going to, I was asking this offline, I don't know people care enough, but what is the benefit of having that stuff, the Shakeology stuff versus just like a chocolate, I'm really like the chocolate Shakeology versus just a chocolate protein powder?

Well, it's, I mean, of course we have protein in there. Right, but it's a super food more than anything, right? Yeah, we have, you know, an array of some of the greatest adaptogens ever. So I looked at it, Isabelle looked at it from what are people missing? Right. What are the gaps that people missing? So tons of superfruits, adaptogenic herbs, mytocky, shetaki, chag, shazandra, ashruganda, stragglers, all that stuff.

Because you go in like 2006, you go in and we're all stressed out. Let's bring in adaptogenic qualities into the formula to help bodies deal with stress. Then you bring in all these other whole fruits and high vitamin Cs and from Camukamu, etc. to increase the fortification of natural whole foods. And then you've got pre-bottocks, probiotics, enzymes, like the whole thing. So it's one spoke in the wheel is protein. Which is so interesting.

So that means when people do not have to add other things to it, like you know how people take make a shake and they add like so many different things. They can add whatever you want to it. It makes it... I don't mean by the berries or the bananas or the, I'm talking like they add like the spirulina, the chlorophyll, the cre... Whatever they're adding to it.

What, I mean, you can add whatever you want. I mean, it doesn't matter, but we made it from a super nutrient dense snack easy to do. Easy to do. It's delicious. Yeah, it's a dessert. It's a freaking, it's so good. It's a dessert that's so healthy.

It is, I don't use it as a dessert, but it could be. Yeah, I mean, it's smoothie bowls and all kinds of stuff. So it's, yeah, it's. That's just like a whole other tangent. It's still a standard of mine. And I still, everything. It's for real it is. Every day.

Exactly. Can you go through your habits that you do every day to be as healthy and as fatally inconvenient? You gotta get that in. Yeah, well, no, I don't have to, but look at you. Like I said, you practice what you preach, and I want you people to know what you want to do. Yes, but you really, you do it to like the next level.

Like I mess up a lot. Darren goes to bed like at seven o'clock. Oh, I can't call Darren after after 715 because he's in bed. That's even hard. I may be laying down, but I go to sleep at probably 830. 830? Okay, so what time do you wake up? Four.

Okay, and then when do you do it four? Run down your routine in the next 30 seconds. I make my water. I get my RO water, I put my salts in. I vortex it. That's in the first episode with me and Darren, by the way. I turn on my fair. I'll lead to it. I turn on my Therasage infrared pad. You got to get one of these things. Holy cow. Is it that good?

So next level, I've been using their infrared pad for seven years. Now they just made a red light grounding technology, tens unit that you can plug in on specific muscles. It's like it's just ridiculous, so good. And you're lying on that every day. So that's where I do my meditation. So I warm that up. I do my, and then I create my shake, right? And so then I, I, I, You put in your shake. Of course, shakeology. Yeah. Maybe some spirulina, chia seeds, and then handfuls of berries and goji berries and bananas and stuff like that. They're pretty simple in the beginning because then I eat a whole another smoothie bowl after my work. So yeah, then I go on the pad, do a

meditation, do some journaling, and then I'm taking the dogs for their first run, and then I eventually drink the first go around, and I eventually then go to a workout, come back, eat again. What kind of workouts do you do? You say it's push rocks, literally. Push, pull, scream. Yeah, how long do you scream and push and pull for? It can be 30 minutes to 45 minutes, usually.

Yeah, but what kind of workouts are you doing? More like resistance training, push. Oh, resistance, yeah. Sprinting, pulling, screaming, to failure. I'm in this mode of just doing everything to failure. Are you using equipment though now? Are you just using the rocks and the tree for pulling? No, no, I have a bunch of the rogue stuff

that I ordered, right? And I go to John McGinley's house and we have a whole bunch of stuff there. And then on Saturdays, you should come. On Saturdays, we're getting the beach in Malibu and I'm out a bunch of people showing up for that. Really? So we're pulling heavy weights on the sand,

doing sprints, doing body weight stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I'll come and fight me. Yeah, next Saturday. Okay, I'm in the next time. I'm joking. 830.

That's right, 830. I'm gonna try to make that one. Darren's book is called Fatal Conveniences. It is wonderful. And like I said, and he said, you can use it as a resource book. It could be on the coffee table. It doesn't have to be read all in one shot. It is filled with extraordinary information

that can truly save your life if you actually listen. It really definitely can enhance. It can definitely enhance your life. And it's wonderfully, wonderfully done. You can see how much research and time is went into it. And like you said, it's just making these little small tweaks and changes to your life. It doesn't have to be extreme. But even changing something even, you know, one habit a day can make such a huge difference in your overall

optimization of your health, your overall life. Highly recommend, and I'm not just saying that because I'm close friends with Darren. What else is going on? What else do you want to tell people besides to try baruchas, they're delicious? Working on a new brand new TV show. I can't really say anything. That's why I didn't bring it up. But I am. Actually, you'll appreciate this. My new co-star, which I can't, I was trying to get

clearance to say before. Because I wanted to mention it so badly. But my new co-star apparently said it on an interview. The one I can't, you say it. But I'm getting word on it, but that was edited out for the airing of the episode just because they need to condense it. But their team said, yeah, Jason already mentioned it.

So. Can I mention it now? No, no, no, I don't have clearance yet. OK, I'm just going to say this. I'm not going to say it, don't worry, but I will say. But it's based in, let me just. I've been begging Darren to go to any production meeting for the last four months, begging.

Begging Darren to go to any meeting. Most women are gonna love. No, you don't. Even though they love the first co-hosts, is that? No, no, no, no, no. This is like, that's child's play compared to the next one. You guys, I'm telling you, you don't even know. Okay, I've been sitting here being like, why can't I say this? But I'm not. And I still beg you if

I can go to any of the next production meetings ever. Well, he's not here. So he will eventually be here. Yeah, that's gonna be a while. Because I have to go to him. I'll go. It's a long way to go. I don't mind. I don't mind. I'll be your companion. Anyway, so, but it's based in problem solution orientation as it relates to the environment. So we're digging into a lot of really cool things that are going on in the world and finding

solutions and finding advocates for change and stuff. So that I'm really excited about, for sure. And I'm hinting at really looking into a because of this book, a potential for a clean marketplace, a vetted marketplace, a verified marketplace, so that if you go into it, you know these things are really taking care of instead of thinking they are and they're not. Yeah absolutely. So it's a big undertaking but I'm strongly considering it.

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