Habits and Hustle - Episode 31: Joe Gorga – The Real Housewives, Commitment to Family, and Real Estate Development

Episode Date: October 1, 2019

Our guest today, Joe Gorga, has been on the Real Housewives for nine seasons. He shares with us some of the behind-the-scenes goods as well as some of the stresses and struggles of starring in a reality show, while also grinding to build his successful real estate business. He talks marriage, family, and his new book The Gorga Guide to Success. Listen in and find out Joe’s tips on the hustle, the grind, and never saying “I can’t”. Youtube Link to This Episode Joe Gorga ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A podcast that uncovers the rituals, unspoken habits, and mind sets of extraordinary people. A podcast powered by habit nest. Now here's your host, Jennifer Cohen. Hi everybody, today on Habits and Hustle, we have a special guest, we have Joe Gorgah, who wrote the book The Gorgah Guide to Success, which talks about business, marriage, and life lessons. It's already an Amazon bestseller,

and he's a super, super cool dude, and I'm really happy that you're here. So thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Well, it's pleasure. I don't even know where to begin. There's so much to talk to you about, we're talking so much before we even started filming taping.

Well, what made you, let's start with the basics. What made you write this guy to success? Well, you know, I think I have a lot to offer and people come up to me and say, yo, this guy made money through reality TV. Right. And that's really not the case. People don't really know who I am

and where I came from and my struggles. Make it where I am today. And I'm still struggling, I'm still grinding. So I wrote the book about my life to show people. This is how I did it. Absolutely. And if I can motivate just one person in life by writing this book, that's my goal.

Yeah, like you said to me, before we started, like I said, taping this and I didn't realize that, you've been obviously doing the real housewives for nine years, you and your wife. Your sister is Teresa, who I'm sure people do watch the real housewives, they know her very well. And you though have been kind of really out of the spotlight, you said that you just started doing in social media just three months ago and you already have like a huge following. But it's interesting because I guess my thing is I always think that people do those shows because of

all the different ancillary business opportunities that come from it. And it's interesting that you were just kind of hustling before, still hustling, and just recently now doing it. What made you now decide in the last few months to start doing social media and kind of getting yourself out there? Like, what was the turning point that breaks through a moment, so to speak? Well, listen, it's, the show is a housewife show. And when I came on the show, there was a... I'm New Jersey, just for people who don't know. And the Jersey housewives, it was a,

my second day of filming was the christening episode. And if you don't know the christening episode, you should go back and watch it. I saw that in your book. That was a big fight that happened, right? Big fight, yes. And ever since that day, which was the second day of filming, you know, the producers in Bravo said, this is TV gold.

No kidding. And me. Because I was able to show my emotions, but, you know, I'm a tough guy, but I got a big heart and I love a lot. And I just, when I get on camera, there's no camera to me. I'm just myself every day. Right. And you know, we made the show Epic because of family drama. And what's, what went on? Was it real? Was that all real? All real? Was that the highest rated real housewives of all time ever and Our show became epic because of it was real right and we didn't we don't stage anything They don't want any of that they just want your real emotions and go out there and just film a

Reality show and that's why the show was so big so for for, you know, the first year that I was on a show, you know, the show was over, that was the first year. I was asked from producers, another set of producers, they wanted to give me my own show. They did. Yeah, they said you're a star, we want to give you your own show. And did it like nine years ago? Like how many years ago?

Yeah, nine years ago. Let's say eight years ago, because I had a film for a year. And I sat with my wife and she was in the meeting with me And she kind of was a going for you know she she was like you know why I just think that At the time she didn't want me to go and grow She wanted me to be with her right. I think she was afraid that if I grew Right marriage could be hurt. So I took a step back.

I said, all right, my marriage wasn't that important or fame is not that important to ruin my marriage. So I denied the shock. Really? And did you want to do it though? I did. Of course. But you just came to marriage over that opportunity.

I'm not going to argue with my wife to be famous. Right. So I basically gave her a platform because it was a housewife show. But I stood out a lot through the housewives because my sister's a big part of the show. My wife, it's a family dynamic and I'm in the show. So. So is your sister, the chorisa, is she the most popular housewife of all time? Because I feel like like people who don't watch the show or watch the the franchise.

People still know who she is because of all the other pressures getting from going in jail and everything else. Like, is she the most popular? Pretty much. I mean, right? People that don't watch the show, but they know who she is. Yeah. Because of all right. Everything else. All the ancillary stuff that went on. Right. So. And so so you so you took a step back and then what happened? Because you're still on the show. Like how many episodes were you still on on most of the episodes? Yeah. No, no, I'm on. I filmed at a normal basis, whatever they needed me, you know, to help my fan, my show, obviously my wife,

and I was her husband, and I filmed my kids, and we would film episodes with the men, and you know, whatever. Yeah, I was there. But meaning I took a step back where I didn't push myself. Right. You could have been a breakout star that went on, but you decided not to do that. Right. There can't be two stars in a relationship.

It's so true. It's so true. One of us has to take a step back, you know, and I did. I gave you a spotlight to my wife because I didn't want it, you know. My marriage was more important. So I let her run with it. She got into singing career, you know, she didn't really well with that, you know, she whatever she wanted to do, I supported her, I backed her up, I went with her as like her little puppy doll. So you weren't resentful

at all because if she... No. There was never ever fights about like, you're now the star, I wanted, I could have been the star, or like, did her career take off the way she wanted it to take off, or is it, how did it affect your marriage that if she became famous or became more successful? Was there any type of resentment between the two of you or any kind of like friction because of that or the only time it did affect our marriage was you know listen you take an average, and you make them a mega star overnight. Right. Right.

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Right. It's no time. on no talent exactly. They're famous overall In our household my wife kept it solid because if you if you look at this the stats, right? just I believe there's like 44 housewives Over over the time or maybe 50 right I think 36 or 37 have been divorced. Oh, that's absolutely. You know, more and the most that haven't been divorced is the Jersey side, you know, which is so interesting because the most dramatic of all and the most like intense. Right. And

I feel like it's the most maybe it's because authentic, maybe too. Yeah, and what happens is, you know, normally the women, they just have this platform and they start going out, they start doing this and then the husbands are left alone and they're like, where are you going now? Either the husband is starting getting a girlfriend. Right, right, right. Absolutely, but they're being like totally like neglected. Yeah. And they don't want to be around.

You just get annoying because you think you're this mega star. But listen, with my wife, I dealt with a roller coaster. She went, you know, she'd been through her ups and her downs, where she got a little, you know, got caught up in the show. Right. But for like a month span, two month span, and then she would have to come back down. I would have to bring her down. Right. What are you do? You know?

Well, could you seem, you do seem very level headed and you seem the same. Like you're, you don't change, it doesn't seem like you change when you're, when the camera's on, you're off, you seem like you're pretty solid at yourself. So that's really grounding for people when they have that kind of experience. And you're right. I think the problem is like people who are not even talented become famous overnight. And what do you do? You have more money, more people, more everything at your access, right? And access and fame can really screw up a person's brain if you're not super solid. So then, so is your wife in the grand scheme of all the housewives? Is she like on the top tier of popularity?

Because I'm not a big housewives person like you know, is it? Because like I said, I know Teresa, I know a couple other ones randomly. But do they do they hang out together to the housewives? Like in different cities hang out together? And are they friends? Are they if they do repetitive? No, they're not competitive. If there's an event and say an L.A. and there's other housewives there, they'll hook up with each other. Yet they hang out. Yeah. It's not crazy. We're doing really glad in a way to hang out, but they do. Um, my wife's pretty much. She's popular. She's popular in New Jersey. She's probably very popular in Jersey. Yeah, because so my sister and her are the most popular ones

They're they've been here the longest right so they're the third of top ones in the Jersey franchise So and is it I thought the jerk like what I mean It's also like is the Jersey franchise the most popular of the franchises I think there's what you have Atlanta. That's pretty popular. Oh it landed. Okay, okay, hopefully hills Yeah, there's they're all running. They all got New York. It did really well. Yeah. New York. They're up in that. It's always crazy. They don't listen. It's a strong franchise.

They're all, they're still going. It's ridiculous. It's crazy. Now, would you say that I know because you give such, you're the New Jersey one anyway, they have such authentic drama. Like, is it? how is it edited? Like, do you ever look back or watch the episode and be like, oh, they, they made this person, this, so and so looks like this,

when really it's like that. Or is it pretty much like what you see is what you get? What you see is what you get. Do you get edited sometimes in a different fashion? Yes. Yes. For that, you know, for that moment or whatever, but you're basically doing that.

So they can edit very little, but that's who you really are. Yeah, right. So like at the core, it is the person, but like we were saying off camera, like the problem sometimes of doing these shows, people I thought, I mean, you're on the show for many, many years, I thought that they can misconstrues someone's personality completely, they can make someone look like a bitch if they're not or someone nice when they're not, because based on what they're using for the show, or taking people's everyday circumstances,

that everybody kind of goes through and then exacerbates it, and makes it like, villainizes somebody, when pretty much everyone's doing the same shit off of the camera anyway. You know what I mean? So like, that's what I would think would happen a lot with these, especially when there's these, the whole franchise is popular for a reason, right? Like, it's because of the drama

and the arcs of the stories that they like do so well, right? So that's what I would think would be. Well, let's see, you know, it's reality TV. It's reality TV. And you sign up for that. Right. No, you sign up for that. That's exactly. Don't they be. Well, that's, you know, it's reality TV. It's reality TV. And you sign up for that. Right. No, you sign up for that. That's exactly.

Don't tell us do they give you though like a plot? Like, okay, in today's season, we're going to be doing this. Or it's kind of rolls out and whatever it is. What they do is when they start, okay, we're starting to film what's going on in your life now. That's what they do. They can come out. We're going to start filming next week

and then come and sit down. We say, what's going on in your life? I went, there's nothing going on. There's nothing. What if there's like literally nothing going on? going on in your life? I went, there's nothing going on. There's nothing. But if there's like literally like nothing going on. And then they say, well, well, there's nothing going on. Well, we got nothing going on. All right. Well, well, you got a birthday party coming up.

Yeah, we got a birthday party coming up. Like stupid shit. And then they just start. What? They have a lot of money. They just roll up. Because, you know, then they put a bunch of women in a room and they'll say, you said this, you said that. And then, you know,

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we're like, you know what, okay, I'm now gonna start. Did you have to have a talk with Melissa and tell Melissa that you wanted to do this? Or what made you three months ago decide to write the book and go on social media and do all these things? I'm at a point in my life that I've worked very hard. I mean, when I tell you, if you read the book, I grind it, I grind it.

We're gonna get to the grind soon too. And in development, what I do is I still grind. And it's very hard. And I'm 44 years old now. And I've, I've- You look great by the way. Thank you. You look like a muscle machine over here.

Thank you. You're welcome. And I've established enough real estate where I can relax, you know, work. I'm still working, but I have enough money coming in where it's like, you know, I'm chill now. And at this point, I'm like, it's my time. You know, I always worry about everyone else. I worry about my children, my wife, they all come first. You know, if I have something, you know, I buy my wife, Julie, before I don't buy myself anything, I buy them everything.

And if there's no money left, I don't, it's about that's about that you know I support that's what I do for my family that's why I know just in the book You're very much a family man. Yeah about your family your kids your wife. Yeah, well my real estate is for my children Like you know, I struggle to buy the next property if I got to come up with a lot of money because that property when I own that asset It's for my children right for the rest of their lives. I could go buy myself a new car or a sports car or something else, and I don't. Right, I just, every time I buy a piece of real estate, it's really to put money away from them.

So they have a foundation. So, so now I decided, you know, I have a lot to offer and I've been watching these other guys do in these real estate seminars. Right. And... Is it a guy from the Real Housewives Beverly Hills, the agency? Well, he's not doing seminars, but he's in real estate. He sells real estate.

But I was saying that show helped elevate his... Oh, definitely. You know what I mean? That the show helped you with your development? No. Because he is an agent where he sells real estate. So people call him, find me houses, you know, because Mauricio is going to find them a house. Figure a developer. I'm a developer, I buy for myself. I'm in house. I find the projects,

I buy, I build them, so nobody, it can't help me. Right. Nothing's not. The example of financing it and owning and getting and finding the properties. There is as much more like people who will like see the show and be like, Oh, I want to use him as a real estate agent. Yes. Right. Yes. So the show didn't help you at all, basically.

No. No. So, you know, now at this point where I should listen, I, if I can help somebody, you know, motivate them because I get a lot, you know, you, you made your money through reality TV or, you know, I watch these other guys and these real estate seminars and I said, these guys are really not the real deal. They weren't suits.

They're sitting behind a desk, right? They're just reading off a book and they're trying to teach people and they're selling these programs. I said, I'm the real deal. Right. I'm really the guy that takes these properties, builds them from the ground up and I know what to find them. I know what to do. I said, I'm the, builds them from the ground up. And I know what to find them, I know to do anything.

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So tell me how you've been doing this way before all this stuff, what we just mentioned. How did you begin? What was your kind of evolution, let's say? And then let's get to like how people can get kind of be like you. Let's get to that after. Well how do I begin in real estate? In real estate, yes. Okay, well, you know, I was running a landscape in business.

Okay. Okay, that, and now we, you know, we were poor people. We were like, a little lowered in middle class My father was a shoemaker. Oh wow. It was an immigrant from Italy. Okay, so we didn't have much money and I opened up a landscaping company at the age of 19 and I bought all this equipment and his beat up truck like this 1972 truck truck was like 1500 bucks, but with all the equipment in the land it was $15,000

So I went to my sister and I was 19 she was 21 and she just got her credit She's got credit so she got three credit cards $5,000 each and I went through and I was always thinking I was always a way to Figure out a way to get the money. So you're always that person. Oh, right? You always had that like hustle It's always hustle always had that hustle. Had to figure something out. How do I get the money for this? But I just never quit. That's right.

I just, there was, there was, no didn't mean no to me. It mean yes. Right. So, oh, I know that feeling. Yeah. So I asked her to borrow 15, take her credit cards. I want to do a cash advance on her cards.

Okay. And she allowed me to, she's the one that really started me up and I took 15,000 dollars and I started this landscape in business. And through the last day of business you work very hard and you know it snows you can't work if it rains you can't work you know it's cold you really can't work so and I'm really grinding when I'm telling him grind in my truck broke down. I didn't have a truck I didn't have money to buy a truck. I drove a loan motor, you know 10 miles I'm gonna cut my first lawn I would leave four o'clock in the morning get to that job set at four o'clock to cut the first lawn

You know right right right the struggles that I did to be where I am today And that's that's what it says in a book I had a work hard. Yeah. That's what I wanted to show people. It didn't come easy. Right. But I never quit. I just kept on going.

So from from. Would you say I'm sorry to interrupt you, but would you say for someone like you obviously had like a inner hustle like we're talking about and a perseverance and tenacity, right? How does someone who how do they how does someone start when they don't have a sister, let's say, for example, who can lend them the money? Like, do you feel or do you think that someone can learn how to be tenacious or learn how to be more of a hustler when they're not naturally like that?

They have to have a drive and they just have to make a goal. So here's the problem with everybody. If they say, okay, well, I want to start real estate, but I have no money. And I don't know how. And I can't. That's, you're already saying you can't. And I don't, if you find the right deal, there is money everywhere. This is America, the land of opportunity. If you bring a deal, if you're just an average person, right, and you find this property

That's a good deal right and you put it together, but you have no money But you you go to banks or you go to people like me investors and say listen Joe here I have this you but you have to hustle. Hey Joe Gore. How you doing? Listen? I got this piece of property here I did all the numbers we can make 500,000 miles, but I have no money right you want to do with me? Sure All right, want to do it with me? Sure. All right, I'll do it. 60% 40%. You found the deal, I'll take 60, I'll fund it, I'll do it.

There's always a way. Yeah. You just got a hustle. You just can't in your mind say, I can't. I don't, I don't have the money. You can't do that. You can find the money, the money's out there. Like if you, you have a great product,

you invented something, you invented the microphone, and you have no money, but you go to people. Right. There's always an investor that has the money. Right. So when there's a wilderness away, basically, right? But someone has to have the work ethic, basically, to go do the grant, I guess kind of like the grant work or the groundwork to kind of, if they don't have money basically, or they don't have a sister or whatever, at least do the do the baseline groundwork, it could you're saying there'll always be money to be found, there's always another, there's a way, if the door's closed, there's always a window that can be open. That's right. Right. Yes. And everybody has the work ethic. They just need to be pushed.

Right. And that's what this book's about. I'm need to be pushed. Right. And that's what this book's about. I'm trying to push you. Everybody has, you have two arms, you got legs, you got your health, you can go, right? So how do you push people? Tell me how you push people. Give me some tactical things at people,

how you can push people. Just go and do it. Just go and do it. You know what the first chapter says? What's the first chapter? I hold on, it's like I read this yesterday. I know you got to have balls. You got to have Yeah, so I remember that right you got to have balls you got to take risks in life right and you can't be afraid right fear And always a fear always holds people back though

And you're never gonna get anywhere right because if I didn't take my leaps and real estate, I wouldn't own all that stuff. Because my first property that I bought, I couldn't afford it. Right. I didn't have enough. I can't. But I took the risk. I borrowed against money. I didn't open up credit cards. I took my time. So I get I borrowed off credit cards. That's how I started buying estate. I, you know, opened up credit cards. I got my credit right and I just cashed advance off credit cards, pull out a hundred thousand, put it down on a piece of pipe. Now, if I went wrong, I owed all that credit cards. I couldn't want back. Right. Right. Easily. But I just, in my mind, I said, it's going to work.

Right. So you're committed to the project basically. And also just kind of eliminated fear from your vocabulary. Right. And then how much how much real estate do you actually own? Do you want to tell me? I own a lot of real estate. A lot of real estate. Are we talking buildings, apartments, apartment buildings? Yes, that's what I do. Okay, so I build them, I buy them, I find them, I specialize in old mill buildings. Right, I saw the first one you did was that way. That's what I specialize. I have to find those and high ceilings, I take them

and I renovate them and then I build them and then I own them, then I manage them. Right, you also manage them? Yes. So you don't have like property managers? No, we manage ourselves. Wow, and you only in New Jersey or do you have things all over the US?

No, only Jersey. Only Jersey. Okay only in New Jersey, do you have things all over the US? No, only Jersey. Only Jersey. Okay. How many apartment buildings do you own? 13. 13. 13. Building buildings.

So how many units is that all together? That's more than 1,000 units. Little less. Okay. So that's a lot of units. You're making a lot of rent then. You're doing well. Okay.

And I could do more. I just don't. I cherry pick. I take the right ones. Right. You know, and I we're also at a position where you probably can. It was never always like that. No, I always always chose. I didn't get greedy because I can buy more. Right. We're just making less money. I find the right ones. I cherry pick. Right. To where I make the right cap rate. So then do you in like, so so in the book, basically, when we're talking about this, how, okay, so you're saying that your story, it's very, it's because you had nothing, it's very

inspirational, right? Like, you're telling people, you don't need to have a million dollars, you don't need to come from a rich family, you could be poor, and you can do this if you eliminate fear, have balls, have balls and just go for it. What other practical information can you give a person listening or watching or whatever, how they can be more successful or like take level up their career or their personal life? Because part of this book also is your personal life. Listen, personal life. You just kind of of stay I was talking about the housewives right

and I was I was talking about how you know they think people when they become they get a little power. Mm-hmm. They forget what it came from. Absolutely. So the biggest thing you stay humble and you stay true to people and you make relationships because the relationships that you make and keep their friends those friends will help you for the rest of your life. Right. Because I went to a bad time in real estate in here you know when I can't control it you know I had a lot of properties

I was flipping a lot of houses and back in seven. Oh wow. The rest of the cars. At 30 something homes on the market, you know, I was almost at a money, but because I had relationships with friends and I didn't screw people, you know, I would call a buddy, hey buddy, can I borrow this machine for a week? I need to, yes, can I borrow this? Can I borrow 50,000? I pay you back and I had relationship. Right. So you got to be careful because when you're climbing up the ladder, being successful

and you walk all over everybody, when you come back down that ladder, you're going to meet those same people again. Oh, I agree with you 100%. I always tell people, I think to be successful in business, in life and anything, it's all about having good relationships, and having integrity, and helping other people, because I think at the end of the day, it always comes back to you.

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much success around you? When you have like you said the thing like is there something you do like what's your do you have any kind of practice that you do to kind of like center you and ground you or what's your... I you have any kind of practice that you do to kind of like go center you and ground you or? What's your- I just go to work. It is good to work. I just put the dirty word boots on again. I keep my sub humble.

Yeah, but how do you do it? It's hard. It's hard when you're- I guess. I mean, I don't know. I just don't like nothing get to me. If I got a, if you cut me a check today for $20 million, take that check, I'll put it right in the back and I'll just buy some real estate.

You wouldn't even know I had it. Because you have like a, you've seen very mentally, tough and strong, like we were talking about it earlier. You have that, like I think it's kind of part of the innate natural. I mean, how does someone get that if they don't have it? I think, well, you know, I don't know. I can't, that I don't know.

Or it could be as easy as, you know, what some people have, some people don't, just like the luck of the drop, right? I just straight to their good ad or. You know, I just, it came so hard for me, you know? Yeah. I worked so hard and I struggled so hard. I call it blood money.

Yeah. I really physically went and earned every dollar and I just feel like I just love people too. I just love life by loving life and being good and being humble. I say and I always believe in God. There's always a door. Every door that closes, he opens too more for me and there's you know and I believe in karma. Yeah, exactly. Karma's a bitch. Let me tell you something, so I think if you root to people,

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Like what's your morning routine? Will you wake up what time? Give me a breakdown, that a day in the life of you, a Joe Gorgah, by the way, I said the name correctly. Okay. You wanna know? Yes, I wanna know. This show is called Habits in Hustle.

I wanna all your habits. All right, from 80s to 8. So I'm up at five o'clock in the morning. Every morning? Every morning and I've gone. And, you know, like, Where do you go to an office? I develop buildings.

Here's what I do. Okay. I jump in a pickup truck. Okay. And I have a list because every, as I'm building buildings in homes, the subcontractors who need to machine because I I'm the GC build I have to supply the material right that's how it goes So I get calls at the end of the day. We need 300 2x4s at this site sheet rock at this site

We need a bobcat at that site. We need stone at that site So you know, I'm delegating deliveries and everything, but if I, they tell me late in the day, five o'clock I'm up, I drive to a site, I pick up a machine with a trailer, I go drop it off, I lay out the machine, it's ready with shovels and wheel barrels, whatever they need, I go to next site,

I go to pick up just two by fours, load them up by myself, go to next site, I go to pick up just two by fours, load them up by myself, go to next site, drop them off, and I go to the local hardware store. So you're working up by the end, that's six, 30s, yes. So you wake up and just go, you dive right in. And I keep everybody, get everybody the material before they get there and keep them going. And throughout the day then I'll meet

inspectors on other sites you know walking through the work we did you know I have constantly my entire day there is not a break in my day I fill it up all day and that's how I do I myself I don't even I don't sit down and eat lunch if I have a business meeting I go in my car I change my clothes I put some nicer clothes sounds like me yeah I walk into the business meeting, I go in my car, I change my clothes, I put some nicer clothes. Sounds like me. Yeah, yeah. And I walk into the business meeting, I do my business meet, walk back out, because I'm on development sites.

Right. And even now, when I was filming the housewives, running home, they were always waiting for me, change real quick, do the scene, jump back out and go back to work. Wow. Everybody thought like this guy is on a reality show. He made his money from that, you know, and I really didn't. And how about the nights where I would have to go to Red Carpet events in New York City, right?

So I'm grinding all day, grinding, picking up lumber, throwing concrete out, and then show it up to these Red Carpet events. And they're snapping pictures of you you 50 cameras Joe Joe there and people they they they they grab you and they bring you on in security brings you on to the back door and here you are at this event where people are there for you. Yeah yeah and you're signing autographs or taking pictures with that what would that do to your heck to someone a weak person minded make weak person minded. Make you feel like? Yeah, it gives you a sense of confidence that's an inflated fake sense of accomplishment and

confidence I would imagine. Well, it did to me. I just did it as work. Yeah. I went back home, got home at two o'clock in the morning from that event, let's say, from New York City, five o'clock in the morning. I'm out the door again, from New York City, five o'clock in the morning, I'm out the door again, grinding again. So you just work, okay, so it sounds to me, like your habits are really just 24, I'm working constantly, you do, obviously, like you have to do other things,

you work, look at you, you look like you're like, you're like one muscle. I work out, I work, I look like this. You're whole life. Since all of your life. Are you serious? I was left in that, I know, I was into, you know, I've looked like this since all years old. I was left in that, I know, I was into, you know, muscle has memory, right? Yeah, sure does.

Keep yourself busy, like I do, as I'm running all day, running, running, running. I'm kind of doing cardio, right? Well, you're also not sitting still. I mean, you're not just like sitting there, you're moving all day, so you're burdening calories constantly. But in between my crazy day,

I'll stop and do a 30 minute workout. But in between my crazy day, I'll stop and do a 30 minute workout. So, are we all right? Could we talk? So do you mean just 30 minutes? Do you only do 30 minutes? Only 30 minutes. How long?

25 minutes, sometimes twice a week, sometimes four days a week, it all depends. Not more than four days a week. So why not? Just because of the time you're still. So, but you're consistently working out though. Like you do, you at least do some workouts during the week. Some weeks I'll just work out once.

So what's your, okay, so I'm trying to get to your habits, your rituals. Sounds to me, wake up at five and you go like guns blazing into work, right? Do you eat breakfast before you go to? I eat breakfast. Ever, okay. I eat while I'll eat, you know, on the run. You forget mine. Sometimes I don't even eat. I just drink three cups of coffee go day. I mean breakfast. Ever? Okay. I eat while I'll eat, you know, on the run.

You forget mine. Sometimes I don't even eat. I just drink three cups of coffee a day and I'll have a dinner at night, you know, when I'm calm and relaxed and I get home and it's over and I'll have some dinner. You know what I love about this? I love the fact that number one, it's so, it's the antithesis of most people who come over here, come on this podcast because most people say to me, yes, I have a, this is what I eat exactly every day and

I meditate for 76 seconds and then I do this for 2.4 minutes and then like you are just like, nope, I don't do any of that stuff. I basically start working, I may or may not have lunch. I may or may not exercise. So that's not really like what those things are just kind of like kind of there in your life. But it's not really you don't really have any particular ritual. It's just you go, go, go constantly. I just go. I just go. Do you have to sleep or not? Oh yeah, I sleep, but I you know, I like I said I can sleep three hours and then just go and go a full day.

A hard day, when I tell you a hard day. Yeah, well, you're moving shit all day. It sounds like you're moving concrete and lumber. And then I'm building these five-story buildings and I'm running up the stairs because I got to meet an inspector on the fifth loan he's waiting for me and I was late and I'm running, then I'm doing an inspector

and I'm running back down. And I'm just moving, drive to the next location, get out. I'm always running a half hour late, and I'm running. How are you? Nice to see you. I'm sorry, I'm late. Let's go to the studio.

It's a monster. It's a monster. So I got tired of it. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm getting tired of it. OK. Good. Be honest with me.

I want you to be honest with me. That's why you want to go into the private doing seminars, you said? I'm doing seminars now. I did my first one March 23rd. It was a great success. We had a close with a thousand people. I showed up. Yeah, talk about that.

So where do you do them everywhere? Well, it was just when it was in Jersey. It was in it was at the Western hotel in Jersey City right by the water. And it was great. And I had panelists there talking about you know how to find properties, how to fund them, how to fix them. So all real estate based though, not just about being an entrepreneur, it's really about just real estate. No, it was a little bit of entrepreneur. Oh, entrepreneur, okay. I talked about life lessons, I had my wife there. Okay. I brought

there, I brought on a panel, we spoke about life, a couple. Because you can be a billionaire. But if you don't know how to treat a woman as a man, you're nothing. And there's a lot of men out there that don't know how to treat women. Or don't know how to be a father. You know, they suck as being a father. So, and this is not just about real estate. I'm there to show you and talk to you about being a man or a man and whatever in life. Yeah, I know. I saw that in the book. You were very

my like I said, like what I said was that I found this very book is it was kind of a third six like entrepreneurial, a third marriage, a third family. Like it was very balanced. It's not just you're not it seems like you are a balance. Even though you work a lot, it seems like everything in your life, the through line, is, you know, to be humble and to put like a hundred percent into everything that you do, really, right? So, how are you going to do this? Like, what's your game plan for these seminars? My game plan is just to keep on doing them, you know, travel. I want to go Boston, Chicago, Illinois everywhere, everywhere. I want to do them everywhere. London, we're talking to London, UK. Tell me, do you break down of what happens in the seminar? Do you have

another one planned yet? Next one is June 22nd, Atlantic City, New Jersey. That's gonna be the next one. It's just a work and progress. I guys just got to start counting them. I got a team that's working to... Oh, okay. So, yeah, it's gonna be good. Let me tell you this last seminar, I felt amazing. Yes.

I was up there and I didn't believe I was that good at speaking. And I just went up there and I didn't write down anything. You know how to write down more notes. Absolutely. You just spoke from the heart. I went from the heart and I did it. And people, you know, they loved it. They went crazy and they wanted to walk on board

or when they were done. I mean, they were just so motivated. And that's what I loved. Right. I had a couple there. A lot of people, husband and wives, I came and said, you know, the wife was in, the husband said, listen, I've been by real estate for the past 20 years. I've been, I'm a contractor and I work very hard and my wife's holding me back. You know, I still know. Because if you bought one or two homes,

let's just say two family homes from Jersey, that's now or they are, or they're doplexing. That can change your life. Right. Absolutely. Let's bring in that income every month and just say you get sick and you can't go to work, especially as a contractor. It's all about you. You have to work.

Right. Whoever's hands on that money coming in changes your life because you got that money coming at all times. See this building that we're in now times. She is building that word man. Yeah, yeah. This building will out with me and you. Absolutely. And that's it.

That was on forever. Real estate, by the way, I mean, real estate is the best place to put your money. Of course, because it's, you know, it will, it will always live on forever. Yes. So then these seminars are something that you really want to kind of focus on. Basically, you want, are you can still do the show or what do you do? Yeah. I'm doing show. Oh, you still me now. How many more, basically. You want, are you going to still do the show? Or what do you do? Yeah, I'm doing a show.

Oh, you're filming now. How many more episodes? How many more seasons are you locked in for? Or does it? We don't know. We're locked in. We signed contracts for like seven years. What year are you in?

Oh, we're just every year we signed. We're signing for more seasons. So how many? They lock you in. That's what they did. I know. But you have like, so are you just going to keep on going like like, we're going to keep on going? We're going to keep on going to the show ends. Right. Yeah. What is the

response? What's the time responsibility that you need to do? Like you have to be filming for three months, six months? Like, what's the right for months? Four months. And you have to be available. Like, do they say four months every day for three hours? Like, what's the schedule? No, no, no, they give you a schedule. You know, when we first started, it was almost seven days a week, every day. Oh yeah, it was there, and it was six months. They were in your house for six months. And, oh my God.

And as, can you tell them I don't want you to be there from six to eight a.m., or is it just based in there? It's a free for all. They give you a schedule and they really got it. Sometimes, yeah, now, as we're veterans, yes, we can kind of, we can't do it this day, you know, right, right. Now it's like it's basically not as some weeks, you're, you're filming, let's say five days a week, some weeks of filming two days a week, some weeks of filming

three days every week is different. Right. So, but then you have to base your, real estate schedule, your seminars, everything around the show. Yes. So I was saying, is there a point where you're going to, like, is there a point, I guess it's not in the near future where you're going to say, I'm done with this, I'm over it, I'm not going to do the show anymore, or are you going to play it out as long as possible? I'm going to play it out as long as possible because, you know, my wife loves it. Right.

You know, what am I going to say? I'm not going to do it in a fight if I don't, my wife loves it. Right. Right. You know, what am I going to say? You know, I'm not going to do it any fight if I don't do it. Ruins her platform. Yeah. I guess. Well, no, I mean, is there any husbands on the show that just refuse to be involved? Oh, yeah.

They're so some, but you're just not that guy. I'm not going to do that. Yeah. So you'll let let her just kind of have her fun basically and just kind of continue with it as long as you can, but possibly can. Yes. And so, okay. So you're saying that the schedule is kind of like for four months and then what happens off season then?

Are you able to do whatever the hell you want? Oh, yeah, you do. Yeah, off season, you're just doing your normal business and you're doing a lot more events, right? Right. Because you're not filming. So, do you speaking events a lot or do people hire you for different parties or for different events? Yes, they do right can't you make a lot of money just doing that kind of stuff, right?

Yeah, so all appearances and you get paid you're getting paid a lot of money for those things, right? How about anything? I guess not like appearances, but like what other what other kind of Opportunities came your way from the show that you just had to turn down they were like what's the craziest opportunity that came your way? The craziest opportunity um, I don't know I don't know I think there was a sex line that came and I wanted to do it most She said absolutely not you know on my why not right. Well, we have children and then, and so on, whatever.

Right, I would have done it in a heartbeat. Really? Yeah. Okay. So, but you haven't done it. Thank you so you didn't really do much for, you didn't really like take advantage, so to speak, of the platform.

No, I'm not. You kind of like step back. But now, okay, so I guess my, my real question is, now that you have the book and now you're on social media, are you now ready to kind of like Take advantage of other opportunities beyond just the seminar and like teaching people how to be a better business person on Spanore. Now I'm ready. Now you're ready, right? Yeah, I'm ready even for another show. Maybe a real estate show. Yeah Yeah, so that's how are you like so you are kind of pursuing those things maybe or like yeah

Okay, I think you should do a fitness thing because you're so buff. I mean, I feel like that could be a really good market for you. You think so? I do. Like, yeah, I think you're like a great example. And also, you know, never mind, we looked apart. Number two, you looked apart. I mean, I would think it'd be a great thing for you.

Okay. Not like, you know, you'll try it out. Yeah, I think you should. What else can I ask you? Is there anything else personally that you want to talk about? Let me see. Well we talked about a little bit of housewives, everything. Oh Teresa, I have a question.

Oh Teresa, yeah, yeah, everybody got to ask about it. I have to ask. Okay, so where's your relationship with her now? We're doing, we're actually great. Okay. We really are. We're back to normal where, you know, she calls me every day. Really?

Yes, yes. You know, what I got on the show was really rough. Yeah. And we went through a period of time. I tell you, the one good thing about this TV show, it brought us together because it really made me be with her when I didn't want to be with her. Right. You know when you just fight and you're just like, I'm not gonna see it. Yeah, of course. You go there all the way, but now you film and they make you sit down and talk. So you had to show up.

So we would have our talks because of the show. Because of the show. Wow. Yeah, so we would have, you know, yeah. So we're over the years, got us back together. Well, how's her life now? Isn't her husband and jail? He's in, he's at a jail. Oh, he's at a jail. When did you get at a jail? But he's at a jail, but he's in ice. What do you mean? He's in immigration. Oh, so what's happened? So what happened? He pulled him out. He got out. He was released from jail, but then ice pulled him. So now he's got to go through, he's not a citizen.

Yeah, no, I remember reading that too. So what happens is now they're appealing the case. So while they're appealing, he's sitting in ice jail, which is terrible. It's like really bad. And he's, where is it? Where is ice jail? It's in Pennsylvania.

So we just sit in there? Yeah, and behind cell in the bars, bars and cells, yeah. So how long can this go on for? It could go on for a year, another year. So he just did three years, and now he's going to sit there while their peel goes on. It could take another year to guys going, losing his mind.

I can't imagine. I can't imagine. I only want to do a day. I can't imagine what happens with Teresa and him, what they I only want to do a day. I can't imagine. So what happens with Teresa and him, are they gonna say together, are they talking all the time, is she raising a kid by herself? What they said was, if he gets deported,

she's gonna get it divorced. Right. She's not moving it early. Well, no. And she's not taking the kids early. She's not doing it. So, so that's where we stand now. So her emotions are up all over the place. She's up, she's down, she doesn't know.

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it's like a three hour drive. Wow. That is so ridiculous. Wow. And so when this shows, it's the thing, I feel like with your, with that particular franchise too, it's all family.

No other, no other franchise, and I know other city has a family. Everyone's family. If basically your entire family is all family. No other, no other franchise and I know other city has a fat everyone family. Right. It's basically your entire family is the show. Yeah, it was, that's why our show was epic. I'm telling you, it's amazing because every family is fucked up. Every family. That's saying they're all fucked up. And like the reality is like no other show like Beverly Hills at land, whatever New York, they're all just like randoms who are put together and trying to like be forced to be friends. Here, you guys are all like family

who are like all have their own dynamics already built in. And then you have a camera on you and you have a bunch of like, you know, a lot of different like producers around and it's like, it's like easy to have a lot of drama too. Yeah, yeah. Gosh, I love it. Well, I want to talk about one other thing.

Okay, please. And I like to talk about relationships and couples and boyfriend and girlfriends and husbands and wives. And you know, everybody today is getting divorced, right? And you know, the rate of divorce now is I think around 70%. That's fucking insane. Is that crazy? And you know what the problem is?

I'm gonna tell you what the problem is if you if you go to work or you Do you hear and you're gonna put 30% into your hair not 100% how's it gonna look? It looks 30% better Maybe works right or whatever. Yeah, you put a hundred percent into yourself You're gonna look 100% absolutely right. You gotta look 100%. It's absolutely right. So that's what's happening with everybody. It's just putting in, you know, 30%, 40% into their relations.

They get married and they're like, well, you know, I don't know. I don't like this. I don't like that. And no one's putting in 100% anymore. And what's happening is, You write about that in your book actually. That it's like the things that you like focus on,

you do better at, right? And when people get married and they have kids and everything else, they tend to just like forget about putting effort into it. And then that's, and then people are surprised why it fails and why it doesn't work, right? It's true. People do take things that they have for granted. It's human nature, right? So I guess a good question or something that you can maybe help people with is because

you don't do that, how do you not take advantage of that? Like, I do not like take, for granted, Melissa, your kids, like, is it you said because of the humility that you kind of practice every day? Or is it just again, who you are as a person? Who am I as a person? No, not who you are, I know who you are as a person. How do you help, How does somebody do that? Like, I think it's like, it's human nature.

I think it's human nature when people hate. It's just too much temptation today, the problem. That's right. Especially when you have fame around you and social media. And even if you don't have that, you're just an average Joe, right? And you've got social media and everybody's hitting you, you're posting a picture and they're hitting you up

on the ends. Absolutely. You're married, you're married, all right? And it's just different today. Absolutely. And it just, everybody's getting sucked into that where if you just do, you know, you wanna go get laid, bang your girl, bang your wife,

bang your fucking husband. Put that in the fridge. I mean, bang the shit out of the show, they're like, rapids, you'll be fine. Well, I husband. Put that in the tray. You know what I mean? I mean, bang the shit out of the show. They're like, rapids, you'll be fine. Well, I'm gonna put that in the journal. So I didn't say it at the beginning of this podcast. What we're doing with Joe, and we're gonna be doing with other people in the future,

is all the information and content that you're telling us on this podcast, it's gonna be put into a PDF journal where people then can utilize that information and then basically Do like take those takeaways and then implement it into their lives or have like a place where they can like kind of go to and see what you said I'm gonna put that in there. Just bang your girlfriend or be your wife That would be point number one number two would be like half balls and that's basically an point number two

Is there anything else you want to talk about Joe? I think I'm good. You think you're good? I'm good. I'm good. Can you come back next time you're in town? We've got a second book out or like maybe I'll have a podcast. I got another book coming. You do? Yeah. 50 shades of Gorgah. Really? That's a great title. Yeah. What's that going to be about? 50 shades of Gorgah. Okay, so is it going to be like a sex book? Sex. Yes, all sex. All sex. Wow. Okay, so you'll for sure come back for that one right? Right. Yep. Oh my gosh. I'm excited about that. Well, thank you so so much for coming. Tell people if I mean you have a huge following, but for people who don't know where were they find you. I'm on Joey Gorgah on Twitter and Joe Gorga on Instagram or vice versa.

I love about this guy. You really love about you. Just a little side note again is that why I think you are successful on the show and why I think you are successful with the seminar and why I think this is your book is successful is because you really are genuine and authentic. And I think people feel that and they gravitate to that. There's no bullshare, there's no aura about you at all. That's like a persona.

Like it is seriously what you see is what you get. And I out here welcome. And I think I'm going to add one point to this journal, a journal, or in life, is that I really believe that when people are authentic and real and they don't try to be something or not things happen These things happen for them and and things come to them It's when people try to fake something or be something. They're not where it really I think the life lesson here is be you and be the best version of you and That's it. So thank you very much

Sorry, you're trying to take this to take this. You're welcome. You're welcome. It was great. Let me tell you something. Thank you. And I love your drink. Well, thank you. What drink is that?

I don't even know, but it's great. What is it? It's called Celsius. Celsius. I love it. You do? I had two of them before. I'm going to take this home.

Oh, good. Celsius. Can I have a case of it? Absolutely. I'm going to get Celsius to actually send you a case. Okay, so remember that Jennifer, make a mental note. Rieska, would you make a mental note to tell Celsius to send Joe Gorga and your wife? Okay, so if you know.

So two cases, if you know. Two cases. Have a three cases. Oh, I think three. Okay, three. Awesome. Thank you. And thank you to Celsius.

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