Habits and Hustle - Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Curious about the real life of a yacht captain on the hit TV show Below Deck? In this episode of the Habits and Hustle podcast, I talk with Captain Jason Chambers as he provides a behind-the-scenes look at filming Below Deck.  We discuss a range of topics from his early days as a professional rugby player to working his way up in the yachting industry. We also dive into how Jason balances fatherhood with his career and the unique experiences his daughter has had growing up in Bali and the Philippines. Tune in because he shares his strategies for maintaining physical and mental health despite a demanding lifestyle, including yoga, meditation, and wellness routines.  Jason Chambers is the breakout star of Bravo's hit reality show Below Deck, where he serves as the luxury yacht's captain. With over 20 years of experience in the industry, Jason brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to his role on the show. Off-screen, he dedicates his time to education charities in Bali and the Philippines, inspired by his experiences as a father to his 10-year-old daughter. When he's not navigating the high seas or filming for the show, Jason focuses on maintaining his health and mindfulness through practices like yoga and meditation. What We Discuss: (01:00) Captain Jason Chambers (14:11) Below Deck Down Under (19:25) Reality TV Captain's Life (32:51) Fatherhood and Reality TV Captaining (40:40) From Mechanic to Charity Work (48:05) Parenting and Values Through Giving …and more! Thank you to our sponsors: AquaTru: Get 20% off any purifier at aquatru.com with code HUSTLE Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. BiOptimizers: Want to try Magnesium Breakthrough? Go to https://bioptimizers.com/jennifercohen and use promo code JC10 at checkout to save 10% off your purchase. Timeline Nutrition: Get 10% off your first order at timeline.com/cohen Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers.    Find more from Jen:  Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen   Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Captain Jason Chambers: Instagram: @captainjchambers Website: captainslounge.life

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He is the captain of the ship on Below Deck, which is a massive hit on Bravo. Most of you guys probably watch it. I think I'm probably the only person who doesn't watch the show. Right? Like, I met just... Just kind of like give you some background. I met Jason yesterday in the green room at California Live. I was doing a segment on parenting and raising, you know, resilient children.

And Jason was in the green room, and I figured, why not get him on my podcast, even though in full transparency, I've never watched the show. But like, I do know it is a very popular show. So anyway, thank you for being here. You're welcome. You're welcome. I've never watched the show, but like I do know it is a very popular show. So anyway, thank you for being here. You're welcome. You're welcome. Well, I have a little 10 year old daughter.

So your segment yesterday when we met was very poignant. I love that. So that's, yeah. So basically I was like doing the segment and then Jason pulls out his phone and showed me all these amazing cute pictures of his daughter who loves to climb trees. And basically what we, I think we bonded on the fact that tech like on the West or in the West, you know, Western civilization, the U S people are just stuck on their phones and on social media. And basically being bored or playing outside has become null and void. And so when you said to me about your daughter, how she's the antithesis, like living and growing up in Bali,

which we'll get into, is completely different. There's no such thing as that type of lifestyle. Yeah, I met her mother in Spain. She's from Australia. She was a chef on boats. And I always had a dream of building a place to replicate a super yacht on land. You know, we, we do hospitality, like a resort style thing where we could actually

provide some health and wellness, but also give that, um, special five-star service. Is that what you do on the boat? Cause you can tell me about that. That's what we do on boats. Well, that's what we, we do on boats. We have luxury, luxury yachts where hospitality really, I'm just a concierge really for anyone's needs. So I drive a big boat around and provide, you know, wealthy people for anything they

want from. This case, I want to get all into what you do also with the charity with your daughter, but let's start from the beginning. Okay, so you're a captain on this boat. And so, how long were you a captain before you became a captain on this big show? So this is our third season coming out, which has been, what, about four years it's been done. So I was a captain for about 20 years prior to that. So I've been captain for 20 years,

and then the show's been going for four. So now you're gonna see how completely, I'm gonna sound like a complete idiot. I remember looking at watching commercials and there was a man who had like a beard and he was he had a gray hair he looked like he was like much older as the captain. Was that like a different show? Yeah, Bravo have gone off into a few other franchises, franchises. We have Sailing, we have Mediterranean, we did have Adventure and we have Down Under. So Captain Lee was the original and he's just hung the boots up a couple of years ago actually. So we still have a few other captains, Captain Sandy for the Mediterranean, great female captain, that's really setting a good example for females out there and striving in this industry and Captain Glenn, who's sailing,

and Captain Kerry, which is taken over from Captain. How many versions of the show is there? There's been five, but we're down to a couple now, but we did have a venture, but that didn't last too long. But sailing's been a stable mark, which is a sailboat, 50 meters or 170 foot. And then Sandy, Captain Sandy, who's in the Mediterranean. And then we have one in the Caribbean and down under.

So the, the guests get to see it's kind of a bit of a fun travel reality, real unstructured program. Okay. But so it kind of, it's kind of like the real housewives basically, right? Like, well, no, only because it was a popular show. And so then they did re you know, housewives of Beverly Hills, Housewives of Orange County, Housewives of New Jersey and like, and they, and on and on and on. Yeah.

There's that, there's that aspect that the audience get to see a different location as well, like the Caribbean to the Mediterranean to Down Under. So it's not just about the, the dynamics of the crew trying to actually do a real job in a pressure cooker environment and see what actually happens. So you're actually a real captain on the show. It's not just bullshit that you're just, you're not just playing a captain on TV. No, they don't script it. They don't tell us how to run the boat.

If they did a captain wouldn't be a captain. As a captain, I wouldn't allow that, you know, because there's so much safety. There's a lot of safety aspects behind it. So we have to hold that. We have to be firm about that as captains. We're driving big boats. We've got a lot of people, we've got a lot of camera crew in the background as well. So the safety always falls back onto us.

Obviously, Bravo in the background have got their policies and procedures, which are pretty strong. But when it comes to the actual boat, starting the engine, getting it out there and providing the guests their quality time that they pay for, they actually pay for it? You have to pay to get on. So just to sum it up, to make it easy, a boat our size would be anywhere from 300 to 500,000 a week to rent. Right. To rent. Yeah. We actually, and you might do eight charters in a season from say May to September or from December to May. And you, eight charters is a pretty busy say May till September, um, or from December till, to May and you, eight charters is a pretty busy charter season and you might do a

week, have a rest week, have a rest week. And in between that, the crew will let loose, relax, get set up for the next one and go again. We actually do nine charters in six weeks. Wow. So we're doing nine charters in six weeks. We're not doing eight charters in six months. And not only that, I turn up to the boat.

I don't know the boat, never driven the boat. The crew turn up. I very rarely know 80% of the crew. I might know a few return crew. Then the food turns up and all the provisions turn up. And the next day the guests turn up and it goes straight for six weeks. Not only that, after each charter, the crew go out, they relax, they celebrate their tips they've just got.

They have a little bit too much sometimes, or they hook up with someone or a bit of romance comes or a bit of argument or a little bit of argy bargy. A bit of, a bit of a bit of misogynism comes out, egos come out. Um, you know, it develops and people say, well, that's not real. Well, you know, it develops and people say, well, that's not real. Well, you know what? It's actually about two years of yachting shrunk into nine weeks. So it actually does happen. Um, but we get to see it over a short period of time due to the

environment that that's filmed in. Okay. Well, I've got so many questions now. Okay. So you said so much stuff. Okay. So doesn't Bravo just pick people to be on the boat? The casting actually pick the crew.

The crew are experienced crew. They actually apply for it, obviously. I don't get to pick them. So, right, so then like, so these are all people who actually have to do this job legitimately. They are experienced. They've got qualifications, yes. And so it's not always the same crew, but it's always, so, but you're the captain, which means you're always consistent on the show, but does the entire, so does your crew always change? Usually you have some fan favorites

or people that have performed well will return. Okay. But that would only be about maybe maximum two. So there's a crew every year, new crew, so sorry, there's about six new every year. Okay, so then the people who are renting the boat, they're actually paying to be on the show with the people, with the show? Yeah, right, rather than paying that 300 to 500,000 a week, like a normal person, they're only paying, you know, 70 to 80,000 for three days.

Oh, wow. And then they have to tip on top of that as well. So what kind of tips do you guys get? We get big tips, we average around about 20,000 per charter. So, you know, I'd say average that. 20,000. For charters, how long you said? For three days. We do nine of them. So we walk out with say 200,000 tip after nine weeks and we split that between the 10 crew. Oh, you have to split everything. Everything goes into a pot. Yep. Okay. And so are the, so the people that are, I guess, the guests of the boat, instead of paying 300,000 or whatever, they're paying 70 or 80 and they're picked by Bravo.

Yeah. But look, a lot of guests want to, want to be on the show and want to travel and, and enjoy the... I'd want to be a guest on it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, bring your eye down, complain about the crew, make it hard for us. And that's, that's all you have to do to be a guest. So I was going to say, so the more difficult the guest is, I guess the better the show is for... We want crew, we want guests to actually be engaged, be authentic,

but also be active, but also be honest as well. We want to be critiqued. And as a captain, I want to be critiqued as well. Like I would like to, I'd like my chef to be honest as well. We wanna be critiqued. And as a captain, I wanna be critiqued as well. Like I would like to, I'd like my chef to be under the microscope. I want my Stuart Esses in the service to be under the microscope. It's better for us, it's better for the show,

but it's better for us to actually learn from and get better. So these ups and downs that go are real. And look, there's not a boat out there that charters that doesn't have a bad guest that actually is really hard. And that's fine. That makes us better. How do they fit?

Like, how do you guys all sleep on the boat? Like the whole crew and the get how many bedrooms are on these boats? So every charter boat can have only a maximum of 12 guests. Okay. So it doesn't matter how much how big Jeff Booth Bezos boat is or whatever. It's they can only have 12 guests. Otherwise, you're moving into a passenger liner, which is a different realm.

So 12 guests. So 12 guests and then the crew, we have about 10 to 12, 13 crew. And where do you, are you guys sleeping like in, are you guys triple bunking or? Yeah, yeah, sometimes double bunking, not the captain, he's got his own, but the crew always double or triple bunk.

And then that's below deck. And that's why it's called below deck. With all the adventure goes on below deck. Right. So it's not really about the guests on the, on the. No, I would say, I would say probably 10% of it's about the guests. 20% of it's about the location and the activities. And the drama between them.

And then I would think a good 70% of it then is about the crew and how they actually perform and get on. So which show performs the best? Is the Down Under that you're on the most popular? I'd have to say that. Blow Deck Down Under. Yeah. We're all going pretty strong.

We're all going pretty strong. The ratings have been strong. It's been going for 10 or 11 years. It's been fantastic. Can't believe it. Yeah, we got nominated for an Emmy nomination last year, our one season two. So that was a good fit. Yours?

The Down Under one? Yeah. Oh my God, it's amazing. Yeah. Unstructured, uh, unstructured reality TV shows. So that was a pretty, we only got knocked off by Ryan Reynolds. So that's not too bad. Oh, okay.

Well, that's not bad. Have you ever done any celebrities? Have you taken any celebrities on these, on these? Some of the other franchises have done Housewives and stuff, but no real big celebrities. No, besides the show, like in real life? Ah, back in the day I did. I remember both the boats that I were on, I was on with, I think we had Jennifer

Lopez on once down in the Caribbean. You think? You're not 100% sure. And was, was that like a 500,000 of... Ann Archer, she was an actress. Oh, Ann Archer, I remember her from Fatal Attraction. Jennifer Lopez is... The Patriot Games or Patriot or something with Harrison Ford. But she also did Fatal Attraction. She was the wife.

Oh yeah, that's right. She was in a hay day too. Right, that was like her big thing. And those guys are paying $500,000 a week. Yeah, definitely. Okay. And then were they nice? Was Jennifer Lopez nice? Look, I can't remember that. I think I was really green then. That was my first season. So I'm...

Oh, your first season ever like doing it. Yeah. That was weird. And actually all that crew were the crew of Wolf of Wall Street too. Oh, of what? The movie, the Wolf of Wall Street, the boat that sank. My first captain was the captain on that, from that boat. Oh, yeah. The movie, the Wolf of Wall Street, the boat that sank. My first captain was the captain on that from that boat. Oh, really? Yeah. And like the in real life. Yeah, in real life. So the guy who was the Wolf of Wall Street was here. And it was the

most fascinating podcast. Like he was telling me all sorts of stuff. I was like, I've seen the movie, of course, but like he was telling me like the movie didn't give it was like not even like a sliver of what really happened in real life. I could probably look at the crew that came off that boat. They were pretty tight lipped. They didn't talk about anything. And so he can rest assured that no bad words were said about him. Oh my, oh wow.

That's because he's saying some bad words himself. So that's probably probably going through the other side. Oh, yeah, exactly. So how do kind of... He's probably going through the other side now. Oh, yeah, exactly. So how do you even become a captain on the show? Did you get the audition? I was in Papua New Guinea doing a... working for an American family there, which I wish I could tell you,

because they actually did some great work while we were there, with some villages and stuff and rebuilding hospitals anyway. You were? Yeah, we had some... We had a great opportunity. That has nothing to do with being a captain of a boat. Yeah. I was on a boat. They wouldn't turn up.

They didn't turn up because of some political issues here. They just didn't want to be seen on their boat. They're a very, very big family here in America. Anyway, so I was working on that boat. What boat? Could you tell me? I can't, I'm not going to say. So they, they don't want to be, they're very low key and, um, they, we went, we

dropped it. I remember dropping an anchor once and I had to go ashore with the helicopter pilot to find the chief to talk about whether I could anchor it in his bay. And, um, we had a bag of night. We had a bucket of nails, some flour, some tar pole ins and some tools to give as a present and, uh, we found this old deserted hospital and it still gets used with like 60 people. They average a month with paddle and pass on canoes. Oh wow.

Babies being born, no lights, no running water, absolutely horrendous conditions. So we went back and we got all the engineers off the boat. We went up there, we looked at everything. We came back again, we fitted out running water, we fixed their pipes, we put new. We, we, uh, fitted out running water. We fixed their pipes. We put new plumbing in, uh, we put new pumps in, we put LED lights in and everything. And then when the owners did come, we took them for a two.

They wanted to come and see it. And, um, they said, how much did this cost? And, um, I said, well, it cost me nothing. It costs you 10, 15,000. He said, triple it and keep doing it. And his guest was a big medical supplier. So he actually sent over a pallet of medical supplies to him as well. And he said, just keep doing that.

That's whatever you do. Just cause. So we just cruised around and through the agent that we use there, we just found things to do and a lot of boats do contribute when they go through these areas, but what a moment in life. I remember once on the back of the boat, we had kids just sitting in dugout canoes and we set up a big sheet and a projector when we watched Moana at night. They've never seen TV before. They've never seen TV. Wow. And anyway, I was back in Australia, COVID was happening. I couldn't get back to the Philippines where my

daughter was. Right. And I was at the end of the COVID, just at the end. And I was about to try and get out of Australia and leave this job because it was coming to America and I wanted to stay in Asia. And I got an email to join Below Deck Down Under, which was doing a franchise in Australia. So yeah, why not? But how did they even like, okay, so how did they notify you? I actually got an email through another captain friend. So through their casting, they put it out there and my friend emailed me with them in it and said listen this is the guy that should be on the show. He's down there, he knows the area and he should be on it. So we hooked up and we made contact and I really fell in love with

the production team and talking to them. I thought these guys are pretty cool, you know, they're really good. So I thought why not do it? My crew convinced me to do it. I didn't think anything of it. I thought I'd just do a season and then go and see my daughter who I hadn't seen for a year. And here we are four years later. So, wow. Yeah, it's been fun.

Have you ever done TV before? No, never. No, no. So I'm officially out of water. So, so if you ever see any of the promos of me coming out of the water with my shirt off and everything, that is not me. Okay. I was going to say that, you know, I saw it yesterday in the green room because they were promoting

me coming up next or whatever. And so they promote both of us, I guess. And you're wearing this like wet t-shirt or something coming out of the boat. And they were like, oh, the sexiest man on Bravo, which is a whole other thing. So how did you get this whole sexiest man on React? No comment. no comment. You have to tell me. I got no idea.

Well, I don't want to be derogative. I haven't got much. You have to be. I haven't got much. Well, no. No, no, no, no, no, Jason, you're on this podcast. You kept it, you have to tell me. I think it's an untitled one.

It's untitled. Well, who called you this? Is it just some name that you, like the Bravo executives decided to call you? I don't know where it's come from. Or is it all the women who are constantly asking about you or like? Um, yeah, possibly. Are you serious? I'm asking. So by the way, so- I'm 52. I don't see it that way.

You know what it is? That's probably why they like you and why they think you're sexy is because you have like a humility to you. That's what's actually what's sexy about you. Pretty embarrassing. Well, you being like this right now is actually sexy. Now I'm not hitting on you, I'm just saying. I'm not, I'm not hitting on him. I'm just saying because if you were this arrogant guy who was like coming out here and trying to be all like,

you know, thinking that you're like this hot thing, that's unattractive, that's a turnoff. But if you're like, ah, Shucks, come on, like all this humility, try and do all these nice things with these kids. I mean, that's why the ladies like you. I could totally understand, right? Bravo executive over here. Right? Well, the thing is, like we spoke about, the job is real. And then at the end of it, they get us to do all these promos. And to be quite honest, it's taken a bit, but there's so much fun doing these promos, you know?

And each year, I'm like, really? Does it have to be shirt off again? Yeah. Are you doing all the shirt? So like, what is all? I haven't seen them, but like, are you doing like billboards with your shirt off? I'm sure they would if they could, but they're good. I'm sure they know the market, they hit the market and it's fun. Look, we just have fun doing it. It's after six weeks of really

hard work, a lot of fatigue and it's kind of just this last three days of doing all these commercials. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just like, oh, let's just have some fun. And we go with it and have a great time doing it. But wait, wait, wait. You're like, you're brushing off this whole, like, sexiest man on reality TV thing. So do you get DMs from women, like, all day, all night? Well, I'm filtered a lot. That's filtered. But you do, basically. I'm sure I do.

And so I want to ask the Bravo lady. So how did you decide that Jason was going to be the sexiest man on Bravo? Is it because you guys just noticed the influx of women who are constantly asking about him versus anybody else on the show? Well, is that really how? But who else do you guys even have on Bravo? The tapes, I'm down the list. No, who else? What other guys are on Bravo that are a big name?

We have a lot, yeah. Most of them are just women who are- He like a big, big name. Most of them are like, just like, you know, women who are like the whole package. Right. Like, and so then you just kind of create this whole like thing around it. You're leaning in. Okay. I like that. And he's embarrassed, which makes it even better and all the other things.

So anyway, my daughter, how many people watch below deck? Like what's the, what's the numbers that, um, I think. Yeah, exactly. How many people watch Below Deck? Like what's the numbers? I think, look, I think each franchise is average in just under a mil. It varies. You know, it varies. But I think all franchises are doing quite well, really well. And as I said, it's been going for quite some time. And it's coming from someone from inside the industry we used to look at at it as like, oh really, but we're just,

we're actually starting to enjoying it as well. People that actually are in the industry, they're starting to watch it as well. It started off with like, we don't really want the industry was like frowning upon it. Like why have them understand this? But now it's, so there's a lot of good points that are coming out of it,

which I think we need to work on. Like Captain Sandy, a female captain who's actually really done a lot for a lot of charities that she works for and she's probably allowed a lot of females to come up into the industry. They get a lot of female deck stewardesses on board. So it actually just gives a lot of women understanding that they can actually be working outside as well. It's not just a stewardessing job, you know, waitress job. You can actually be part of the system where you can get certifications for it but you can actually be part of the system where you can get certifications for it.

So there's a hell of a lot of good points in it. So why 30 people, is 30 people for that type of size boat, a normal size crew? No, you got the crew. So the crew is who? The captain? Yeah, captain, captain first, mate, engineer, and then you'll have three stewardesses and three deckhands. You know, so you got six, so you got 10, 10 or 11, 12,

13 crew, depending on the size. Then you'll have 12 guests. Then we'll have four producers on at one time, and then you'll have probably five sound and five camera people. Okay, no, no, no, not the camera, not the TV people, just in general. In general, let's just say there's 12 plus 10, so 22 would be usual.

And because you're also enclosed in such a small environment, there must be a lot of like drama and relationships and like that actually form. You said earlier that the mom of your daughter was the chef? No, she was a chef, not my chef on the boat, but she was a chef. But was she a chef for another boat? Yeah.

But you guys never met on a boat together? No. That was just a coincidence? Yeah, we just met through friends, yeah. Oh, but you, because you on a boat together? No, no. That was just a coincidence. Yeah. We just met through friends. Yeah. Oh, but you, cause you're friends with a lot of the same people who are crew. Yeah.

But I know where you're going from, going to, and it definitely, it's a, it's a close environment, so it's a very, um, you got different nationalities. Yeah. You got different personalities, you know, and these are things that, um, look, when you go to work at a nine to five job, you know, you might not things that, um, look, when you go to work at a nine to five job, you know, you might not like Tom who you're sitting next to or Sarah, you know, but you get to go home and you actually just get the clock off and bitch to your partner and go, oh, Tom's, I can't stand Tom, but I'll go back to work

tomorrow. Whereas in our industry, uh, we have to be with them 24 seven. So the only way to combat that is actually respect someone's uniqueness or different personality and understand that and get to know them. But we all know people from different countries, you know, behave differently, they have different aspects or different views on life or things. You know, some can be very pigheaded or misogynist or rude in their tone, but they're probably not.

Some people are really, really beautiful people, but just they come across very, very harsh. So give that a moment, understand where they come from, learn their nationality, learn their personality, learn their behaviors, and not everyone has to be how you think they should be. And that's a big lesson that crew have to learn, especially when you're living with them 24-7. Right. That's crazy. I mean, that's a small quarters to be with. Have you ever had any relationships with people in your crew ever? Me personally. I've been doing it for 25 years, of course.

Of course. Yeah. On Bravo? No, not on Bravo. No, I've had really strong relationships before too. Some that I've actually thought that might've been the one. Um, you know, I don't live up in a suburb and with a cul-de-sac, you know, with a white picket fence and have barbecues every Saturday. You know, my friends are my crew that I've worked with over, over two and a half decades. Wow.

Yeah. Like my best friends are, you know, yeah, my best friends are crew that I've actually worked with and had a great relationship you know, yeah, my best friends are crew that I've actually worked with and had a great relationship and then still keep in touch now and male or female. What is the, like what's your day to day look like? Give me a, break it down, like walk me through what a day in the life of a captain would be. Well, obviously everything's based around the itinerary that you've already set before.

Right. So you're obviously looking at the weather, you've got the provisions, you've got the supply, you've got the maintenance of the vessel, you've got the crew, how they are, how they're going. Then you've also got the admin, you've got the, the accounting, you've got the, you've got the reporting to the management, you've got reporting to the owner. And then, um, then you're fulfilling the itinerary and the cruising and the going through the grounds and the activities through the day. And then that's all starting again.

And then you're also foreseeing what's happening in about four months time when you finish that season, going into a shipyard repair maintenance time, where you've probably got six weeks to turn the boat over, spend a million or two, and then get back out. And then all that is with crew vacations, you know, crew leave, terminations, contractual stuff for that, employment, HR, uniform sizes too, and then you got the crew drama, which has happened. So that would be a day in the life of- What time do you guys wake up?

Like for our Bravo, like when you're filming for Bravo. When I'm filming, that's real life. Filming, we're the same. It's the only thing different about all that is I'm not foreseeing, I'm not, you know, it's all set. That's what life filming. We're the same. It's the only thing different about all that is I'm not foreseeing. I'm not, you know, it's all set. That's what we're doing. So you walk up to the boat and just focus on that every day.

A captain, you know, he would might go to sleep, you know, after, after guests have gone down or dinner, um, and it'd be up early getting into it. Um, and we have set hours of rest that the crew have to have. Otherwise, if they go outside that, it's past their legal requirements. They have to have a certain amount of rest and certain blocks for safety. But that does get broken every now and again,

because we wanna try and get things done. Right, right, right. How do you guys have like, because you're out in the outdoors, but how do you maintain like a healthy life? Like you obviously said that you really care about before even off camera, like longevity and health and wellness, and we're gonna get into your whole story.

Is it hard to take care of your health when you're like confined to like a boat underneath and you have to do a certain structure schedule? Like, there's not much time to kind of like even have like, if you have like downtime, are you stuck going to your room or like, are you allowed to like wander around the boat? Like what happens?

Crew usually get a designated area where they can actually do some stuff. And a good owner or a good management system would understand that, respect that. And really good owners want their crew to have a healthy lifestyle. And I always promote that the crew can always jump in the water with the guests as well. They can get on the paddleboards with the guests, you know, because it's actually a safe-

Oh, they can. Well, to me, it looks like they're, well, one, they're actually getting some refreshing activity. Two, they're actually acting as a safety with the guests. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're another set of eyes. So it's actually acts as two purposes. But I think society's changed a lot, too.

I think if you go 20 years ago, the crew would work, work, work, go to the bar, get drunk, have a great time. Right. It's different now. I think we're a lot more conscious now. I see crew getting up early for the sunrise, meditating, journaling, doing yoga, doing, being their fit. I you can see it in society that, you know, men, young men are trying to be a lot fitter than they were 20 years ago.

It's become super trendy now to be. Meditate meditating. Um, yeah, look at breath works is a big thing. Um, I think crew are taking the more healthy approach to understanding that you can't keep working in these environments without a healthy body and obviously healthy body, then healthy mind really. Like, what are your habits? What do you do every day?

Wake up every morning, stretch for about half an hour. What time do you wake up typically? Five-ish, six, yeah, five thirty-six. Really? Yeah. That's very, are you stretched for a habit? If I'm with my daughter, I'm up at four because I go to bed at eight. So yeah, so I stretch, I go for a walk.

If I'm not on land, if I'm on land, I go for a walk. I'll do my breath works. I just do my, I usually do that when I'm in bed, I'll put on Wim Hof and do that 11 minute three, three rounds. He was on here too. Oh, really? Yeah. I like Wim Hof.

He's very nice. And then, um, and then I'll do some, some fire breathing. Yeah. And, and then I'll just do some more stretching. I just do band exercises. Um, I'm, I used to play professional rugby league when I was young, so I've got a lot, few injuries. Oh.

So I find that if I start getting into the gym, it's just too much. Really? Yeah, the gym's too much. Lifting weights is too much for me. I actually, I find getting into band exercises being more helpful and good for the core. It is, yeah.

So wait, so, because you said earlier too, like your daughter lives in Bali, you now you live in Bali, but like you said you haven't, you didn't see her for a year. Yeah, a year and a half. Is it because your schedule with the- I was sort of COVID, I was stuck in Australia on a boat. I couldn't leave. So- But normally that's not the case.

Not well, normally if a yacht captain, very rarely there is rotational jobs, two months on, two months off, but they're very hard to find. Um, sometimes captain could be away at sea for 10 months. So how do you have like a regular, how do you have a life with like anybody? Very difficult, very difficult. That's why my friends are friends on that. I, the motor. Yeah.

So we don't have a normal life and you take two months off for a month off. Even as the captain, you're still on the laptop, you're still on the phone. And there's so many jobs waiting for captains as well. If you don't say yes to the conditions, someone else will take it. So every time you're on holiday, you're threatened whether you're going to keep your job or not. Like it's like, there's a mindset with yacht owners that, you know, they're just always there. They're always part of the boat.

Whereas, no, you can't have any time off. Um, there's a lot of, uh, a lot of marital breaks up breakups in this industry. Oh, so how does anyone have a relationship or have kids? Very happy. I, like, I find the same relationship breakups in, um, in the mining, in the offshore stuff where you do a lot of one month on one month off. Yeah. Yeah.

So this is a lot of time away. Like there's no consistency in terms of spending time. Well, what I see is it's the same pattern is the, um, you know, the, the mother was, let's just say the mother is at home with the children and the father's working away for a month or two, and then he comes home, he walks into the household. He thinks he's back. Right. Well, wait up, this has been my nest for two months without you.

Exactly. You know, don't just, don't just come in here. Just so you always see like a week of teething into slowly walking into the relationship with arguments when you come back. Um, and then they finally get settled and then you feel then the wife, uh, the mother feels like about two weeks before they're departing, like starts to get that anxiety, like, and he starts to get that anxiety. So, you know, the whole two months off is actually a good portion of that is broken up with, um, you know, unrest and

a hundred percent. Well, there's no rhythm. No, there's no rhythm. There's no rhythm. Like it's constantly like upheaval and like, you know, growing apart. And then you come back and it's like, they already went on with their lives a little bit and then you're kind of, so how do you, even with a kid, like you, what I think is amazing,

and I noticed this yesterday when we met, is like any moment you can mention your daughter, you do, like you love your child so much, which is like beautiful. I love that. It must be really hard to be away from her like that much. So when, when this season, we, I put everything into a building that place in the Philippines.

Yeah. A nice little five-star resort, you know, her mother really did a great job building it. Even though we weren't together, we said, okay, you build it, we'll be 50-50. It just gave us, it gave me, it's what I've always wanted was my daughter to grow up with a unique environment.

So she grew up as this white blonde girl that speaks fluent Tagalog, Filipina. She actually thinks she's Filipino. She's got that empathy. Really? She's got, oh, she just wants to, she just wants to give to other people, make sure everyone's looked after, which is just that true caretaker of vitality, that real true Filipino care.

She grew up in a very remote location and we've given her that. And now they've moved to, they've moved to Bali now for a better education. And, um, yeah, look, I'm, I'm proud that we've given her that and now they've moved to, they've moved to Bali now for a better education. And, um, yeah, look, I'm, I'm proud that we've given that point, but when below deck happened and COVID happened post COVID, I was like, I don't care what happens the next two years. I'm not going to work. I don't care if I spend all my money, I'm going to stay with my daughter. And I've done that probably 80% of the time. So if this goes nowhere, it goes nowhere.

I'll just go back on the old boat. Okay. But now I'm actually on to a boat. Right. But now I'm actually trying to pick things up, see how much I can actually, um, really make the most out of this year. My two years is up. So now I'm actually trying to get back. Your two years is up? Two years that I set out for her.

Oh, yeah. Well, you know, when it's up, when, um, I didn't see it from six to, six to eight. Now she's eight to ten. Yeah. And I gave her a kiss goodnight for bed because she sleeps with me. We just got a one bedroom villa in Bali. She sleeps with her mother and she's got a one bedroom. And I gave her a kiss goodnight.

She said, Papa, I need to talk to you about something. I said, what? She said boundaries. I went, what boundaries? She goes, I don't think you can give me a kiss goodnight. I'm like, what? Not on the lips. I went, okay,? She goes, I don't think you can give me a kiss. Good night. I'm like, what? No, not on the lips. I went, okay, but can I hug you? She goes, you can hug me. Good night, but no more kissing.

Good night. I went, really? Oh my God. It's so, so, so I rolled over and about two minutes later, she reached over and hug me and gave me a kiss. So I'm actually understanding that it's, it's, it's, it's that time that, you know, I know she's only 10, but I know that she's becoming.

More of a girl. I know what you're talking about. She won't let me see her with her top off anymore. She's got to have a top underneath her top, you know. Right, she's got a baby. She's, she's. I don't trust, I'm always the same thing. My little one turns 10 in five weeks,

and I know it's like a progression, like they were just like, okay, well, I've, I can spread my wings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's, it's fine. I've given her a good two years. I'll give her all my life. That's for sure. My whole life is about her, but I know that I can, she's like, fine. Oh, we've got FaceTime.

I'm like, is that what she says? Whereas, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. I'll give her all my life, that's for sure. My whole life's about her, but I know that I can, she's like, fine, we got FaceTime. I'm like, yeah. Is that what she says? Whereas, you know, she misses, she rings me every day, but she's like, it's fine, as long as we can talk

on FaceTime, it's fine. You know, but then she's like, come home, you know, and I need to see you. So I flew home, I had Christmas with my parents, my parents were not too well this year. So I had Christmas with them, and I flew home straight away to see her for a week, you know, as soon as I had a good hunk of time with my parents. Where do you actually live?

Bali's well, I've got a, I've got a home in Bali, but Philippines, we have the resort, so I'm actually been a little bit nomadic my entire life, but this year I'm trying to find some stability and actually look towards, um, the place to put some anchors down. Roots. Are you going to, do you think you would ever live in the US? Oh, she's in love with the LA. And she's loving with the LA.

She's in love with LA. I brought her here last year and she's like, oh yeah. Really? Why don't you live here, papa? And I'll just come here and visit. I'm like, maybe. So you might move here. Oh, look, I'm, I've got, I don't want to even put any anxiety or thought into it to have any anxiety.

I've got to get some stuff done this year. I've got a good first half. I've got a very busy first half of the year. And then once that's done, then I'll actually, I'll put more thought into it then. Wait, so how long did you say when you like shoot for the show, how long did you say it is? It's six weeks. Six weeks, yeah. But then we do about six months of editing.

Right. Not editing the show, but just things we didn't pick up. Yeah. Or voiceovers that we didn't do. So I'll fly back to here once a month for about six months, probably six times, just to tidy up things that maybe after each charter, we get into a green room and talk about that charter.

Maybe my enthusiasm wasn't there, I was tired or something, or maybe I just need to be a bit more upbeat about this, or can you be a little bit more firmer about that termination you did? Right, and so they do give you guidance in terms of how you should? No, this is much later. Oh, so even after the season's done,

they kind of give you feedback on what you can do next time? No, we'll fly, when they're editing and they're putting it together, our voiceovers or our interpretation of their interpretation of that moment may not have been that conducive to what happened. So they might just ask us to, can we use say that again, but with a bit more enthusiasm. And then that's the clip. It's just, it's called pickups. It's part of the editing. So I know I used to have a pre-out. I had this, I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't love it. I had a weight loss show and they had, but they had a bug in my ear. Like we know like one of those things and they'd be like, go up to so and so and tell them this or that. It felt very

contrived. They don't do that on your show. Oh God, you're lucky. Yeah. No, we've, we're, I'm the captain of the boat. There's no way I'd run a boat. Good. Okay, I know you kind of said that, but I didn't... Like, sometimes it is Bravo. I mean, it's not like it's... Like, they're known for their very dramatic reality shows. So it just happens anyway. This is good. This adds another...

This is the thumb of the hand of theirs, I suppose. You know, whereas all the other stuff is very dramatic and reality and it's got their audience. We give the Bravo audience another aspect of reality, but doing a real job. And it's good that they, it's just another genre really, within a genre. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many years are you contractually doing this gig? Season after season. So, you know, we just hope that the ratings are popping up and we get another one.

Right, so you don't know, like next year you may not be on. Yeah. So if this season does lousy, you're screwed basically. Yeah, that's, yep. And would you, like, do you like doing TV? Like, would you want to do more of that stuff? I honestly have met so many friends through the production and the people at the back.

They're very similar to ourselves. They're working away from home. They're putting so many hours in. They're trying to create something for someone else. Probably don't know when the next job's coming. Very much like I spoke about. They're all passionate about what they do, and they're working hard and trying to... when the next job's coming, very much like I'd spoke about. They're all passionate about what they do,

and they're working hard and trying to... Honestly, to be quite honest, you could actually have cameras filming them, and that could be a show as well. Oh, my God, it's probably the best show. It's probably the best drama show ever. I agree. How did you even become a captain, though? Like, did you love the water? Did you love boats as a kid?

Like, what was your evolution to be like, you know what, I wanna become a captain of big boats. Well, in a short, I'll keep it short. I did a mechanics apprenticeship. I became a mechanic. I got drafted to play professional rugby league. I was a good rugby league player back in the day. Oh, wow.

I then did an apprenticeship as a plumber. Then I chose not to play football, but just rugby league playback in the day. Um, I then did an apprenticeship as a plumber. Then I chose not to play football, but just, uh, rugby league. I just chose to, chose to get married. Actually, that's the first, no one knows that I got married when I was very young. How old were you? I was 20. And yeah, so I married my high school girlfriend and then at 25, who we're still in touch with now is like, well, what are we doing?

Like, so I actually gave up professional football to be with her. Um, but then I traveled, I went a year around South America, um, then backpack by myself and then hitchhiked around Middle East from Istanbul down to Cairo. You hitchhiked? Yeah. And around South America as well. And then a friend of mine who I met in England, got a job on a

boat in Newport, Rhode Island. So I went back to Australia. I came to visit him and I just walked on the boat. To do what? Just like... Just to help. And the crew came back and the engineer said, this guy knows what he's doing. You know, like, let's take him to Miami to the shipyard.

So they took me down there and I started work. And they said, let's just do a season with him. So I did that. Long story short, went back to Australia for a year of football, then came back and, um, got a job as an engineer on a boat. Went up to Newport, uh, New York, saw the world trade centers come down, went back. The boat didn't sell. It was owned by the boat.

Didn't sail the boat. Sorry. The boat didn't sell. It was up for sale. Oh, sell the accent. I'm trying to keep, I miss it. No, I like it. It's just like, I'm listening very intently. We came back down to New York and after the season, the boat was for sale. Oh, sell the accent. That's why I keep on missing it. No, I like it. It's just like, I'm listening very intently.

We came back down in New York and after the season, the boat was for sale and it didn't sell. Okay. No one was buying it and it was 110 foot boat and the owners like said, well, we'll take it to the Mediterranean. And I was the only one looking after it by myself because it was for sale. And they said, we want you to drive it. And I said, I don't know how to drive. And they said, learn.

So that was it. I was 28 years old off to the Mediterranean, never been in the Mediterranean, never driven a boat before. And I just, uh, we took off and winged it. You just winged it. I winged it. And then ever since then you're a captain. Ever since then I've been winging it.

What is like the protocol? Like, how does anyone become a captain? Is there like a school for captains? I had to do a certificate. I had, I had sea time enough to actually do the certificates. I had to pass the certificate to do that, but it just fell short under, under a grade, which was great for me, easy to be able to get that, so I get the certificate.

So then I took off, I surrounded myself with good people and actually for about five, 10 years, I really just learned on the run. Um, and then eventually I ended up driving, um, one of the biggest boats. And, um, it was, what is it? 300 foot and, um, helicopters, everything can, and I, we had 28 crew. It was a huge boat. So I actually got to the point and I thought, no, I'm too detached from the crew. I don't really like, I could stay up in the wheelhouse and never see a crew

member for a week if I wanted to, had aounge up there at a kitchen or a galley everything so I thought no, I'm it's not me I want more adventure even though I could have retired on that job So I saw what's the pay in a boat like that anywhere between 15 to 20 thousand a month So to be a captain of a 300 foot boat. Yeah, well it goes up to 30 30,000 anywhere from 15 to 30,000 a month. And then you get your tips and all that stuff? If you're a charter boat. Yeah.

Yeah. But I could have retired on that job, but it wasn't me. And I came back and bought land in the Philippines and felt more, I actually learned more driving around these remote areas and got more out of it. And that's kind of where a lot of where I am now. That's why I'm working with these charities that I work with. I know. Tell me about that charity. I love that charity.

Yeah, what is it called? The classroom of hope. Yeah, what is that? I've been looking for a plastic waste solution in Philippines building our place. We got a lot of rubbish washing up and I've been thinking we used to grind our plastic up and put it into our foundations just to get rid of it. So yeah, I'll be looking at blocks and everything can I came across this foundation in Indonesia that use all fully recycled, you make these

blocks out of all recycled plastic waste, 24,000 tons of plastic waste. A day wash up onto Indonesian rivers and they have a big factory. They turn them into these Lego blocks and they build schools out of it. In 2018, 400 schools got knocked down by earthquakes. This foundation that was there went in there to help because they were an education foundation. After that, they said, well, if we keep rebuilding these schools, they're just going to knock down again because there's earthquakes all the time.

So then they found this solution. So they've rebuilt 100 schools out of this solution. I loved it. I went and visited them. They don't even just, it's not just about the schools, about the education. They're working with, um, with each community and the chiefs to understand how they can help. Like the females there, if, uh, in their religion, if you, if you run off with a

boy, you have to get married. If you have a night with the boy, you have to get married. But the father of the boy is not gonna let you marry unless she can get pregnant. So you need to get pregnant before you can get married. And then you can get divorced too. So they're trying to teach these communities that there's a better way with education.

You don't have to fall back on that. We can actually have a better solution. So they're actually got so many aspects of this foundation that are helping the community But on top of that they're building these schools rebuilding these schools out of a plastic waste Recycle material and I'm a party. I'm a paddy dive ambassador for Patty the diving certificate So what Patty Patty is the dive certificate? Okay that we get out you get your diving courses for her Okay, so I'm the paddy dive ambassador. So ocean conservation is a big thing for me.

Oh. I just got my daughter certified. So we went on, I said, how can I help to this foundation? They said, we'd love to have you on board. So they gave me a school for 171 children, no bathrooms. The girls, every time they have their monthly, have to go home for a week because they, you know, it's just, there's no dignity there.

Really? There's no bathroom. So that was the school I got given last year. And I put it up, I threw it out there. Really? There's no bathroom. Um, so that was the school I got given last year. And, um, I put it up, I threw it out there. Sheena of Vanderpump rules through $5,000 and got it started. And, um, in four months we raised a hundred thousand and I built the school and I took my daughter to open it and cut the ribbon. And last month we went to Melbourne, Australia for a gala.

We had to raise 60,000 more. I spoke at the gala. We raised 140,000. It's a great foundation and it's fantastic. And my daughter's part of being there with it too, which is a good thing for her. Wow, I love that. Last month I took her up into the mountains of Bali.

There's another foundation, Bali for Rice, with all the construction that's going on in Indonesia and Bali. Bali for what? Bali for rice. Rice? Rice, as in... As eating rice, okay. And all the Bali for what? Bali for rice. Rice? Rice, as in- As eating rice, okay. And all the rice fields are getting taken

for construction with all these foreigners' buildings. So there's a lot of elderly and disabled people and special needs people that are actually not getting fed. So these foundations supply rice every week to these families and that's a great organization. And there's plenty of them. There's a plenty of foreigners in, in Bali that are given back, but Philippines is my heart and I'd love to take some stuff to

Philippines in the future. But at the moment I'm in Bali. Um, and it's something that I feel passionate about and, uh, I don't know what to do on my social media. I'm not very good at it. Um, so I do my own social media. Everyone's like, you got to get more in front of the camera. And I'm like, okay, but I don't know what, but this is easy.

It's something I'm passionate about. It aligns to the ocean conservation. I've got a child education is a big thing. Yeah. I think my daughter is very lucky that she's growing up in a unique environment, you know, and she didn't want to hold the camera for me the other day when we're giving out the rice. And I said to her, she did not want to know.

And I said to her later, I said, why didn't you want to do that? Saskia. And she said, I'm, I was embarrassed. I said, I know why you're embarrassed. And she said, tell me. I said, because you've got more than them. You've, and she said, you're right. I was like that in the Philippines, you know, to bring the people to our

house, cause we had a bigger house. And I was like, Sass, this is just learning. And I'm glad you've got that feeling because that's empathy. And that's not a bad thing. And don't be shy of that. You can be embarrassed. And you can actually have empathy as well. But just know why you've got it.

And it's because you have appreciation of what you have. And you know, and these are the- What a beautiful lesson that you just taught your child. That's all we have to do. You know, a little bit. We don't have to ask for much. Yeah, I think it's it's I think it's so she has gratitude like just from having that environment.

Amazing to me is the just the difference in terms of just where you raised your child, how they grow up, like in terms of their like mentality, their needs, their desires, like like because she never stepped foot here in America, right? She doesn't know from all this. She doesn't know from the fact that every kid here is stuck on their phone and they won't play outside or they don't do play dates or they are on social media. Like, they're not doing that back there.

No. Okay, she loves her iPad now when she can get it. She doesn't get it with her mom, but she gets it with me. How much you give her the iPad? Look, she gets, I would say a couple of hours a week. Oh, okay, a couple, but you regulate it and you monitor it. I'm pretty bad with it. My mom's good with it. Your mom, her mom.

But you know, she- But two hours a week is- But she does crochet now. pretty bad with it. Her mom's good with it. Yeah, her mom's good with it. But you know, she- For two hours a week. But she does crochet now. Like, and she does crocheting and stuff. She does- Really? Yeah, she does, she makes things.

She's got her invisible friends. She's got her other dolls and stuff that she makes things for. And she has a little word to it. The other day she said, you can't sit there. I said, well, and she goes, blah, I can't remember. Big dog or something. So I was sitting there. And I'm like, oh, that blah, I can't remember. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, that's because, well, I mean, this is how the whole thing, like, I believe that we need to be bored sometimes. And when we were kids,

I was always bored. But that's where I believe, you know, boredom kind of breeds brilliance in a way, right? Because that's where creativity lives. That's where you think of different things. Like, if you're not bored and you're constantly distracted all the time, you're never gonna get those light bulb, like, those moments of genius. Yep.

Well, you can actually visualize and imagine where the end is. Well, a hundred percent. And not actually look at the obstacles in between. Exactly. So then if you're doing this stuff, like, you know, with the show six weeks on whatever, and then you do your pickups, how do you spend the rest of your time? It's a good question. That's been a very, very low, low period where I've actually moved in probably into a bit of a cave as well.

Right. Because I know when I'm out, I'm out. Right. When I've got these things, you know, so health is a big thing. I've just had a huge end of the year with my father with Alzheimer's and- How old is your father? They're turning 80 next year. So I just, mom had a heart attack, dad had Alzheimer's. Um, and how old is your father? They're, they're turning 80 next year. So I just, mom had a heart attack.

Dad had Alzheimer's. I flew back to help. My best mate passed away in a horrific accident. I had the melanoma. I had a diagnosis of melanoma. Uh, I had a lot going on and I think, uh, that's nothing but going to propel me into where I really wanted to go. Anyway.

Um, I've always tipped around my yoga, my health, everything like that. But I, I want to, I want to move right into, uh, like, not the, I'm not going to say peak, I want to see how far things my body can be, you know, I want to know more about mind, cognitive behavior, preventative, uh, reversing Alzheimer's a little bit, uh, know about the foods that we can take, you know, because I want to know more about it because of my dad. Of course.

And- Did they actually diagnose him with Alzheimer's? Yeah, yeah. How did they know? Did they do an MRI and scan his brain? Yeah, they did the whole lot. We always had, for the last six to seven months, we could see changes.

And then when mom had a heart attack, a triple bypass, and he was by himself, it just came on like a ton of bricks. And it's really there now, it's prevalent. And, you know, he's, he's got now he's on medication to take that back. But I've been listening to a lot of podcasts. So I'm actually just trying to teach myself now, but I want to see what I can do too. And I know that I've got a good journey ahead because of everything that just went that happened at the end of last year. So I'm thinking, wait up. So I'm doing manifesting and mindful coaching. I want to do some journaling of where I can go and follow the journey.

See where I am now. Um, start, start selling some stuff online that, uh, you know, to try and make a passive income so I can actually try and use something from this with Alzheimer's coming on with dad, I feel like, um, I've got the opportunity to learn more about that. And I am doing mindful and manifesting coaching as well, which is good. I'm starting to do the therapy that my mate suggested when he passed before he passed away. So you're doing, I do have a coach or you're coaching.

Yeah. I've got a coach now. I've done two sessions with her. I get a lot out of it too. She asked me the other day, what, what are the things I want to get out of it? And I said, I want discipline, I want continuity and accountability and execution. And she said, explain that. I said, well, I've always been that person to go with the flow. So I want to be more disciplined to actually set my targets and actually do it. Like, yeah, go and see that

person or go and do that. Like, don't just brush it off and go with, if it happens, it happens. Continuity is actually continuing and doing that. And accountability to me is not just of the things that are going wrong, but be accountable and appreciative of things that you are doing right. So when people, probably not the sexy stuff that's going on, but like when people say, when people say, oh, you, you know, you, you did a good job or you did that, I'm going to say thank you. I appreciate that.

Yeah, I'm going to take that on. But write that down as well and be grateful every day and say that to myself every day as well. And then execution is to get all of those things going. So this is, so it's funny, the podcast is called Habits and habits and hustle, right? For a reason, right? Because it's basically the habits and hustle of like the most successful people and the best experts and how they got from place A to place to point A to point B. So we talk a lot. Well, I mean, I know.

I mean, place A. Well, next time you'll be here, you'll be at place B. Yep. And then C. But what I talk about, my entire platform is, is really based around discipline. You rely on discipline. You don't rely on motivation because motivation wanes. So does willpower to muscle. It doesn't last.

So discipline is how you get from A to B and being consistent is, it's not about talent. It's really about being consistent day to day. It's not and being consistent is, it's not about talent. It's really about being consistent day to day. It's not the most intense, but it's the most often like that. It's, and it's also the most boring stuff, right? Like doing the same things day in, day out gives you that mindset of, you know, of, of being accountable to yourself.

Well, that's where habits are formed, is through subconscious. And that's about you actually doing. Yeah, you have to do it. You do it, it's action based. You know, if I pick up that phone every day, if I pick up that phone every day, if I pick up that phone every day at nine o'clock, eventually next minute,

I'm just doing it without even nine o'clock coming. 100%. And that's what it's for. I just use that analogy, because there's a phone there. But you know what I mean? Well, it's routine, right? But it's body movement. It's body movement, I think.

It's not just mental. It's not just saying it. It's actually doing. No, it's definitely not just saying it. You've got to move your body into that habit. But you have to make habits. That's why people laugh at me because I'm very regimented. But if you're not, to a certain degree,

regimented, things don't get done, right? Like if you have goals, you have to have some type of, of plan and you've got to execute on that plan or things will just like, you know, maybe it can happen, maybe it won't, right? But with your lifestyle, you have a very, very, like, it's, it's an all over the place lifestyle, right? Like you're on a boat, then you're not on a boat. It's like you may have work, you may not have work.

Very hard, the habits fall off. It's very difficult. It's very hard to actually have that, even traveling with the stuff that I like to eat. You know, I found that this year my body went down a little bit in health because I was on the move for three months. But usually when I'm in that little mode and I've got my things I do every day, I eat my turmeric, my ginger, my onion for three months, but usually when I'm in that little mode and I've got my things I do every day, I eat my, my turmeric, my ginger, my onion, my garlic, all that, you know, you know, take my Brazil nuts

and stuff like that. If I do, if I'm doing all that or, you know, I'll take my creatine every day. Um, Oh, I have creatine for you. Have you ever tried this creatine? No, but you've got the magic. Oh, the magic. My mom can, by the way, we totally forgot about this.

Can we have to do this shot? Yeah. Normally we do this at the beginning of the podcast, but, and I've had like a lot of these today, but. These are my, these honestly does work. I know it does. And it's like, and the ingredients, I wouldn't be even doing these shots if it didn't work.

I've tried tons of these different types. And this one is by far the ingredients are the best. Try it. Cheers. Oh, cheers. Okay. I always leave a bit in there to get the bottom. Really? Because you shake it enough? Probably not.

Yeah, I shake I've got to shake it. And then now you're gonna be super focused for someone else's podcast. Well, I have not had one of these for about a year. And when I did have one, it changed me. And I would love to sponsor by I will, I will definitely set you up with them. Because this is a great company. me and I would love to, um, sponsored by. I will definitely set you up with them because this is a great company. Also creatine. Have you tried this? I love the momentous creatine.

It's be, it'd be perfect for you because they do these travels. Now I'm going to show you. They're like, you can take it with you and you can just, there's, there are individual packs. Do you do creatine? Yeah, I did some today. Good. So like, these are the things,

like these are like habits that you can get into that are healthy. Totally, but traveling is a big thing. What do I travel? How can I travel around with the less things? Well, that's what I'm saying, like these little travel packs, do you do any kind of other wellness modalities?

Like do you do red light? Do you do the sauna? Do you do all those things? Ice bath a couple of times a week, easy. Red light sauna, for sure. Okay. You mean infrared sauna or? Yeah. Okay. So I'd love to do red light therapy. I've been looking into it.

You've never tried it before? No. I understand the concept of it for sure. From a light frequency point of view, I've read about it or understand it that the ailments in your body are broken up through your light frequency. The red light actually brings it back together. And I'm, I'm, I'm across all that. I well, I'm not across it, but I, I definitely believe all that. I'm going to give you something. It's not a belief. It's a, it's a fact. Well, it's, I'm going to, I'm going to, you're going to leave here today with like so many

like wellness gifts, because I love this thing. It's called the tri-light red light. It's a, it's a red light by this company called Therisage who has like, in my opinion, the best red light, but I travel with it and you can like, it's like a, a panel and then you can put it wherever. Like, so you can put it on your leg. You can put it on your face. I just had a rotator cuff injury for last month. You know, that's good now.

And I actually think I did the NAD IV 500 milligrams. And then I did another one a week after that. And it did improve it a hell of a lot. You felt a difference? Well, actually, when it was going in, I actually felt that was the pain straight away. So they say it goes straight to where you need it. To wherever you need it.

Did you get nauseous with the? No, I cranked it right up. It was fine. How long did it take? I reckon 45 minutes. Yeah, I mean, it right up. It was fine. How long did it take? I reckon 45 minutes. Yeah, I mean, that's actually a lot. Well, if it takes like, if you do it really, really fast, I get so nauseous on those things.

Oh, yeah. I could feel it. It felt like I did a couple of shots of tequila. Right. I mean, I think tequilas would be better than the shot. But are you a drinker then? Because you are from? I do.

Look, to be quite honest, in this industry that I'm in, obviously, I loved it. But now I do big moments of no, no, no alcohol and big moments of, not big moments, but moments of yes. Look, I love a steak and a glass of red wine. I love going out once in a while, but I must admit I'm a bit more, as I said, introverted these days. I don't go out too much. If I'm in Bali and with my daughter, I don't go out. So if I am traveling, you know, look, I don't want to be drinking at events anymore. Like I do, I want to be focused. So that's my rule. But if I'm with friends and stuff and there's something on and I feel

comfortable in a good position, I will, but I actually have a, you know, the anxiety, you know, in the day after. Yeah, I don't drink, so I wouldn't be happy. It's just not me. It's just not me. I don't like waking up in an environment, if I'm in a safe environment, I'll do it. Right, so yeah, because I think drinking, in my opinion,

is like the number one most terrible thing you can do for your body. Totally agree. I've had last year, I went November till May, nothing, look, we'll talk about this today in the car. Like the focus you get after three months is just insane. It's so worth it. But you know, I just love sitting with a nice big steak

and a glass of red as well. I know, I like steak, steak's good. Like that's protein. Yeah, I totally, that's all I'll eat. Can you have it with something else? Like a carbonated water? I'll try. Is that the same?

Well, I know, but I've been looking at Neutropix. There's a company in Australia I was going to talk to, you know, they do a gin and tonic, they do an aparole spritz and it's all alcohol-free, sugar-free. And I'd love to work with a company like that. There's another one in New Zealand called Apra. Apra, they do a- And what do they do? they do a blackcurrant. It's nootropics. Nootropics is usually like a brain supplement of some kind. Well, it's a... Yeah. But what is this exactly? These are drinks. These are drinks that actually support cognitive behavior,

like which is just made out of... Oh, okay. Is there alcohol? No, no alcohol. Yeah, but they taste like alcohol. It's a or no? No, no alcohol. Oh, no alcohol. Yeah. But they taste like alcohol. It's a gin and tonic, it's an apparel spritz, and it's a Moscow mule, but it's no alcohol, no sugar. So it mimics the drink in terms of taste. It mimics the drinks, but it's using nootropics plant-based. Interesting.

Yeah. So there's a few of them coming out now. There's so much of the stuff. I mean, it's so overwhelming. This is now like, this is my life and every day I'm like noticing I'm getting, talking, I mean, it's like, there's so much of all of this. Well, this is why I've brought out a fragrance this year. I've got a fragrance I'm bringing out because I usually do essential oils.

So I have a fragrance launching in March. Yeah. Do you want to pass me the fragrance? And you are doing a lot of side hustles. I am starting now. Yeah. What made you, so yeah. Well, I usually do.

Bravlin needs to pay you more apparently. I usually do a lot of essential oils, spray face mist on crew and on the sound and production team. So in Bali, I started doing this, I started learning about fragrances. So I put it, it's a gender neutral fragrance and that's coming out in March. Now I didn't want to promote alcohol. Everyone does promote spritzes and everything. So this was something that I thought was totally different. It's along what I like. I always had my essential oils and I thought, well, I'll do a

fragrance. And it's, it's, I sat down for about two or three months. It's taken about eight months to come. Uh, so for about two or three months to develop the, um, the scent and it's actually kind of me on a boat, the sand waterfalls, it's got some earthy tones and it's definitely, um, definitely got some nature there and it's long lasting. And it's actually done by some beautiful people that have actually got some great hearts. Wow. Where are you going to sell it?

It'll be on my website, which is coming out soon, which is Captain's Lounge. Captain's? Captainslounge.life. Okay. Which will be on my Instagram and that'll be dropping in February. Have you not promoted this at all yet?

No. Okay, so are you gonna have someone to try to get it into like the department stores or? Eventually, yeah. We'll work on it, yeah. Who actually, do you have a, like who's making it? Does someone come to you and say, hey, No, it's just me.

It's all you. It's just me. Who paid for all the manufacturing? Me, yeah. Really? Do you have an agent? No. You don't have an agent or anything.

So it's just basically like you going out there and like making your own deals. Yep. Wow. Do you think maybe you should get an agent or? Don't know. Really? I mean. I'm a boat captain.

I'm going to give you some business 101. You can do. You're on a big reality show. This is my little like, you're on a major, major reality show on Bravo. The women obviously really like you according to Bravo. Why would you not get an agent to find you some like endorsement deals and some speaking gigs? Let's go. I mean, I would think, I mean, I think that would be like a, that would be the next evolution of your career.

Maybe that's part of one is discipline. Probably a little bit more confidence and less insecurities. I could probably do that. I don't know. I'm a fish out of water in all this. You are. You're just like a captain of a boat and like this whole thing just happened. Yeah. I can drive a boat with 30 people and crew and do all that there and make decisions and make on the spot, you know, emergency decisions and stuff and look after your life and take it for the best ride of your life. Right.

But. Um, when it comes to open up that laptop and looking behind the screens of that social media, I got no idea. So wait a minute. So no agent has reached out to you. No manager has reached out to you. I had a manager for a while. Not much came through. I had a good deal with InvisiLine. Yeah, that's a good one.

Yeah. I had a good deal with Johnson & Johnson with AccuVee. Yeah. So they've been good. They're the things that got me through. But when it comes to doing the stuff for myself, I've never... But those are big ones like Johnson & Johnson, like Invisalign, those pay like a lot of money. Yeah, it was good. So, but I'm saying if you had an agent or somebody to like go up there and like pitch you more regularly or at an agency, you'd be getting things like that all the time.

Let's go. But I have this philosophy and I actually think I'm sticking to it pretty good. I do not want to be selling things everywhere all the time. No, you do not. it pretty good. I do not want to be selling things everywhere all the time. No, you do not. I want to be true to what is for me and what I stand for. So when I do try to voice something like that, now there'll be a portion of every sale of anything I ever do that'll go back to a project. Of course it would because you're a nice guy. Well, that's where I'll get the love out of it. That's amazing. I have an idea for you. You know what you'd be great at, I think, because of who would watch it?

If you were to do some kind of partnership with a QVC or an HSN, because the people who watch QVC and HSN, there's the shopping networks, are the same people who are watching reality TV. They love reality. They love The Real Housewives. I'm sure they love your show, Below Deck. If you were to do like some kind of partnership with them,

they would be able to make this so you wouldn't have to pay for the manufacturing or any of that. And then they could put you on the show and you would basically sell on their block of time. And the women would love to see you because they love you probably already. Shirt on or shirt off? Shirt, I think shirt off would probably do better. Check. Maybe you could do like a tight tank top. You could like meet in the middle or something.

You know what I mean? I gotcha. But to me that would be like a great money gig for you. And that way like right now you're paying for the manufacturing of this, right? You're paying for all of this, like all that heavy lifting is coming from your pocket. Yeah. Yeah. And so like, you would like, this is what I think it's a no brainer.

There are people who I meet in LA, who literally don't have even half of what you have. They don't even have like, they have like one season of some, you know, bowdunk, horrible reality show from some shitty network. And they're out there with their agents and their managers and their publicists trying to like hawk something. You're actually like a really decent guy who's got a very nice way about you on a massive hit show, three seasons in. And like you're making your own perfume.

Are you kidding me right now? I'm just, I'm just hiding away in Bali somewhere. I really, I'm, I need to get out there. I need to be represented a bit better and probably learn a bit more, I suppose. So, you know, but meeting you has probably given me a little bit of, I'll take this on. It's a little bit of discipline and maybe a little bit more advice would be great. I'm going to give you more. I mean, listen, I'm like shocked at what I'm hearing.

I mean, you know this, right? From your Bravo friend, Hailey. But they're not going to give us any. No, they're not going to help you with that. But like, if you were really touted, like the sexiest man on Bravo or sexiest reality star, that headline itself, you can leverage that to like so many different endorsement deals. You can probably get a book deal. I could make you millions of dollars by next year. Let's go. Sign me up. How are you Let's go. Sign me up. Sign me up.

How are you not doing this? Sign me up. Sign me up. I'll give you business advice later. Okay. So guys, this is, he's the nicest guy, Captain Jason. Watch season three of Below Deck and you'll come back when you're at point B, right? Yeah, please do. I'll help you get from A to B. That would be great. I'll help you in the middle. So where do people find you? So promote where you can be found. My Instagram, CaptainJChambers, and on there, my website is CaptainsLounge.life, which

is all on there. And also on there in links, you'll see the foundation as well. And you'll see a lot of my grid on my Instagram is a link towards the foundations that we've been doing and the schools that we've been doing and the schools that we've been rebuilding as well. So from there, you'll find us and we'll get a bit more active on the other social platforms as well. But for now, Instagram is the go-to and Captain J Chambers and as I said, captainslounge.life.

Thank you so much, Jason. It was so nice to have you. I'm glad we met. Me too. Thank you. Okay, guys, go watch his show and. I'm glad we met. Me too. Me too. Thank you. Okay, guys, go watch his show and go follow him on Instagram. Bye bye.