Habits and Hustle - Episode 424: Liron Kayvan: The Top Nutrition Mistakes to Avoid + Are Seed Oils Bad for You?

Episode Date: February 14, 2025

Do you feel like you're doing everything right when it comes to nutrition, but still not seeing the results you want? In this week's Fitness Fridays episode on the Habits and Hustle podcast, I sit dow...n with my friend and fellow fitness expert, Liron, to discuss the most common nutrition mistakes people make that sabotage their health goals. We dive into the importance of protein and fiber in your diet, why eliminating entire food groups is a bad idea, and how to balance healthy eating with enjoying your food. We also discuss the surprising truth about seed oils and your health.  Liron Kayvan founded BFLA in 2019. He’s a NASM Certified Group Fitness Instructor, Personal Trainer, and Transformative Life Coach. Liron has competed in Amateur MMA, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Rugby and has been a Fitness Coach for over 10 years. What we discuss:  (01:00) Nutrition Mistakes and Protein Consumption (13:47) Calories in vs. Calories Out (24:00) Restaurant Deception and Food Ingredients (28:43) Food Deception and Responsibility (34:59) The Dangers of Seed Oils Thank you to our sponsor: AquaTru: Get 20% off any purifier at aquatru.com with code HUSTLE Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  TruNiagen: Head over to truniagen.com and use code HUSTLE20 to get $20 off any purchase over $100. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. BiOptimizers: Want to try Magnesium Breakthrough? Go to https://bioptimizers.com/jennifercohen and use promo code JC10 at checkout to save 10% off your purchase. Timeline Nutrition: Get 10% off your first order at timeline.com/cohen Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers.  BioMe: Go to bio.me and use promo code JENNIFER20 for 20% off you first order To learn more about Liron Kayvan:  Website: https://www.beyondfitnessla.com/  Instagram: @beyondfitnessla Find more from Jen: Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it! Hey friends, you're listening to Fitness Friday on the Habits and Hustle podcast, where myself and my friends share quick and very actionable advice for you becoming your healthiest self. So stay tuned and let me know how you leveled up. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentous. When your goal is healthspan, living better and longer, there are very few non-negotiables. One of them, quality. And when it comes to supplements designed for high performers, nobody does it better than Momentus. Momentus goes all in on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dietitians
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Starting point is 00:02:07 It's called Beyond Fitness. Beyond Fitness LA, yeah. Yeah. Where's we've been about? You think I'd know the name by now, but. You got a lot of things going on. I do. I actually do, but it's super easy when you're here because it's so easy.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We know each other for so long. We're also neighbors. We're also neighbors and we just like to blab about all things health and fitness. But today we're going to be covering a lot on nutrition because I think people are making big mistakes with their nutrition. And because of that, they're not reaching their overall health goals. Eighty percent of your goals, fitness-wise, body-wise, comes from your nutrition. It's not, you're not going to be making, that's what they say, like,
Starting point is 00:02:52 abs are made in the kitchen, they're not made at the gym, and you can be squatting all day, and you can be lunging all night. But if you're not eating properly, then good luck to you. And so, I really wanted to do an episode, a fast episode, short episode, on I believe the top nutrition mistakes that people are making. And then you can tell me what you think, okay? How's that sound? Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I believe some of the top nutrition mistakes that people are making that really can overhaul your overall goals if you just watch on these. The first one is your portions. I think portions is where people always fail. We think we know, we eyeball it, we think okay that's a chicken breast or this looks like a normal size of rice or pasta and we're always wrong because if you actually look at what an actual portion is to what we're actually eating, very, very different and that can make a major difference in your overall calorie intake. So if we are much more mindful of our portions, it will save you a lot of heartache.
Starting point is 00:03:59 That's the first one. Another big one that I think is really important is supplementing. I think that we rely on supplements way too much over our actual nutrition, like what we're actually eating, and it's not making us any healthier. I think if we actually ate the nutrients that our body needs, it would help us with our overall satiation. This is another big one, and I know you're going to definitely agree with me on this one, is people are not consuming enough protein. Protein is like the real, that is like the number one. I mean, protein satiates you. Right? Like if I'm not eating enough protein, I am starving.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Literally starving. And I think if people would uptake their protein, it would like, it's like a game changer. Again, I think that one goes down, I talk about this a lot, but it goes down to evolution. Like we've evolved to eat protein. So our guts are like protein seeking machines, you know? And so when they register the amino acids, like that umami flavor of protein,
Starting point is 00:05:18 it's just extremely satiating because that's literally just how we're built. Well, first of all, it also regulates my blood sugar. I'm like, I shake if I'm hungry. And the second I eat a piece of chicken, I feel so much better. And I'm a big animal protein person. I think that's like the really like to me, you don't have to be an animal protein person.
Starting point is 00:05:39 You can be eating, you can eat other things that are not animal protein. You can try. You can try. But animal protein to me is like the number one source for my protein. It's how we're designed. It's how we're built. Oh, 100%. And like the other, other really big one is that eliminating food groups is a real mistake, right? Not eating enough carbs, thinking that carbs are gonna make you fat, no.
Starting point is 00:06:06 It's the portion and the kind of carb will make you fat, not an actual carbohydrate. Eliminating that from your diet is such a bad move. You need fats, carbs, and proteins. At some point, you're gonna need to check all those boxes. You have to. In order to be having a balanced plan is what it is, right? Like you can't just eliminate because your body is like, your body is going to crave it and you're going to eat it somewhere. You're going to eat something else that's maybe not as good for you.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Technically, I think the only one that is not essential, like from a scientific perspective, is carbs because you technically don't need carbs to survive because your body will create carbs out of protein or fat like gluconeogenesis and stuff. But in practice, everyone needs it. And also if you're an athlete and you're working out, you also need it for performance. Your performance is going to suffer tremendously. Your mental health suffers tremendously without carbs because it boosts serotonin and stuff. You feel better.
Starting point is 00:07:05 So practically speaking, you definitely need some form of carbs, some form of fat, some form of protein and trying to like shortcut or like cheat the system by just getting rid of one. It's a nice idea and a lot of people, especially with carbs, because you lose water weight, they'll lose 10 pounds in a week and they're like, oh, I'm a winner. Yeah, but you lost water and maybe some muscle.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And actually you're less healthy than you were when you were 10 pounds heavier. So, you're cheating yourself really. Well, I feel like that's a big one, right? Because people, they're not relying on the muscle they're building. They're relying on their fat. Like, what's it called? Like they're overestimating the fat loss and underestimating the muscle gain.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Don't want to lose fat and lose muscle at the same time. You only want to lose fat. But it's really hard. So I think when you eat carbs, like you're saying, you may lose that water weight, right? But your muscles are made of water, so you're kind of losing muscle in a way. So then what would be a good strategy in your opinion where we can balance it, right? Because we don't want to overeat carbs or anything, right? By the way, do you believe in this myth that eating too much protein will be bad for your kidneys? No. You don't believe in that?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Not animal protein. Fake, like fake, art fake, possibly protein shakes. I doubt it even with protein shakes if they're animal-based, meaning dairy protein, I doubt it. But like natural, basically natural sources of protein, not a chance. Not a chance. I don't believe it for a split second. You don't? No. Well, I, see this is the thing, right? Like to me, like we talked about protein is so important. People are getting their protein, let's say, just from like their shakes. Are they getting enough protein then, right? Because to me, people are under-indexing- If someone's exclusively getting it from their protein shakes.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, well, to me, I feel like that you can't just exclusively get your protein from a protein shake. I wouldn't advise it, no. Right. Well, I would think you'd be like, for me, when I from a protein shake. I would advise it. Well, I would think you'd be like for me when I have a protein shake, I'm starving 20 minutes later, right? Because it, I guess maybe because of the, it digests really quickly into your body, whatever, but I feel like animal protein for me is what actually say the animal protein is what satiates me. Yeah. If you isolate too much, again, I think protein shakes have their place and I will have them from time to time and I will tell clients to have them.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, me too. Especially if they're learning to get their protein up and they're trying to get their gut to adjust to a high protein diet, which in the early phases, protein is fantastic. Protein shakes have their place. Okay. Listen, I love, by the way, I have a protein shake. I try to have a protein shake on the go. Like I have like my, by the way, I have-
Starting point is 00:09:51 Literally. Yeah. I'm literally going to have this- I have those all the time. But I use these a lot for pre-workout. Yeah. Pre-workout, post-workout or on the go. But I need to, I have other things in addition than that to that.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right? Like I also use like Momentous. I like the, their chocolate or the vanilla whey protein. I like that too. It's delicious. But like, I mean, Cause that's like a, they have more natural sweetness and stuff. It's like, No, no, it's just they, they, what I, what I like about it, they have this third party tested. Oh, okay. Cause I like, and also I just like the taste of it. I like the ingredient list.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I like all of it. But my point is I do both, right? Like, because I need the satiation of having animal protein as well. But I feel like where shakes come into place a lot of times is when I need to supplement with more protein, right? When I'm busy, when you're on the go, you need to have that. Convenience factor.
Starting point is 00:10:47 The convenience factor. Which we've spoken about in other podcasts, like convenience is an underrated facet of fitness that people need to factor into what they're doing. Things have to work functionally and they have to be convenient for you. Exactly. Now, those to me are like big mistakes
Starting point is 00:11:02 that I see all the time. What are other ones that you see that people are making? So I think not focusing on food quality and also not enjoy. I think the biggest one now is like not enjoying their food, like not factoring that in. And again, this kind of flies in the face of what most people are told. But my theory is, and I'm really fleshing this out, so this might sound a little bit jumbled, but like,
Starting point is 00:11:29 I think your brain has a certain, let's say pleasure point principle where it wants to get a certain amount of pleasure from food. And if it doesn't get that amount of pleasure from food, it will kind of force you to binge later on. So essentially what's happening is that your brain is seeking pleasure from food. And if it doesn't register that pleasure from food, it will keep asking for more and more food.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So by eating something that, by only eating things that people don't enjoy or not consciously enjoying the food that they're eating, they're setting themselves up for failure because their body and their brain is kind of storing a little craving for later. It's like, wait a minute, I didn't actually enjoy that. You better pay me back later.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So basically, you're saying when you, a big mistake is when you deprive yourself, it will end up backfiring because you'll end up eating something different or more or badly later on. That's what I do. That's my big thing. I deprive, I deprive, and then I'll go fucking ape shit on something else. Like, like for example, I don't want to eat a lot of sugar, but then I'll eat nine pounds of grapes. So like, that's my thing.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Like I love fruit and I know people say fruit doesn't make you fat. If you have nine pounds of grapes or mango, yeah, well, you may not make, you may not get fat, but you will gain some weight. I think it's definitely better to have a more balanced approach. But then, but then ultimately the truth of it is, is that you probably should have given yourself the grapes in the first place and then maybe you would have only had four or five pounds as opposed to nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Well, the thing is, not even the grapes, I should have given myself something else first place and then maybe you would have only had four or five pounds as opposed to nine pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is, not even the grapes, I should have given myself something else because what I'm using is I'm using the grapes as my sugar food. Yeah, sugar food. Because I'm craving sugar, so I'm like, oh, I'll just have grapes, which then really kind of brings us back to portion, right? Portions port, that's why I always circle right back to portions. I think where that's where most people really make that mistake
Starting point is 00:13:27 is when they just overeat with that portion. It's not, like I said, it's not so much always just the food, it's the amount. You can gain weight on eating too much healthy food. You know what I mean? And that's what I do, right? Like I'm like, oh, chicken breast is okay, I'll have seven of them. Or oh, you know, like grapes are okay, I'll have seven of them. Or, Oh, you know, like grapes are okay. I'll have nine pounds.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So like overeating is overeating. Yeah. You can overeat good food and you can also overeat bad food. The issue with more, okay, wait, you have more wiggle room with eating good food, but you still have to, it's more wiggle room, but you still have to be careful. And that's why things like if it fits your macros and stuff, I don't think people bother with that anymore, but that used to be a thing.
Starting point is 00:14:07 If it fits your macros, meaning just as long as you're eating your macros, it doesn't matter. The problem with that is if you're eating Twinkies as your carb source, you're going to go, you're not going to be able to stick to 200 grams of carbs a day or whatever it is because, you know, you're just going to rifle through those so fast because they provide no actual nutrition. So your body is still craving nutrients and therefore you're going to overeat those foods. So calories in calories out is completely non-negotiable.
Starting point is 00:14:34 That's how it works. Like you cannot, that's just a mathematical law of the universe. If your calories in more than your calories out, you will store weight. Whether that's muscle or fat is, is potentially negotiable depending on what you're eating, but I don't care why that's even still a controversial topic. That's just the fact. It's like gravity. That's just how it works.
Starting point is 00:14:54 That's controversial. Like there's been times where we're like, what are you talking about? Calories in versus calories out? That's not how it works. There's no point arguing about it. I'm like, what are you talking about? That's just how it works. Like it's, it is how it works because I'm a good, I'm a prime example, right?
Starting point is 00:15:08 I exercise like a fanatic. I eat very healthy, but if I'm not watching how many calories I'm inputting into my body versus how many I am outputting, I gain weight. I think where, where the conversation becomes more interesting and nuanced is where you start to talk about... You start to break that down and talk about what does calories in mean versus what does calories out mean. First of all, you would have to absorb the calories in.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So if your body for some reason decides it doesn't want to absorb those calories, if your gut says, you know what, I'm not absorbing these calories, I'm going straight out, then technically that's not calories in. It went into your mouth, but it didn't go into your body. So that's not something that happens all the time. But again, it's like, where does that calories in versus calories out equation become relevant? What does calories out mean? Does it only mean walking? No, your calories out could be your growing your hair. It could be your reproductive system. It could your growing your hair. It could be your reproductive system. It could be your digestive system. It could be your immunity. So it's so insanely complex,
Starting point is 00:16:11 that thing that to try to reduce it to a mathematical formula that we can predict is on the flip side to it is you're not really going to be able to do that long term. It's too complex, but you have to be aware that that is how it works. Another one I should think is really important too, because again, we talk so much about protein and we are seem to be remiss about fiber. Like me, maybe I'm eating a lot of fiber by eating all these grapes and everything else, or like, or, or I'm a big vegetable, vegetable and fruit person. But I would say like, there there's a crazy stat that like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 I think 90% of Americans are not eating enough fiber. And fiber is like a major macro ingredient, macronutrient that's so important. And it helps with keeping you full and your digestion and your gut. I think your gut even eats certain types of fiber. It literally like pulls energy from the fiber itself. So your gut needs the fiber just to like function well. So besides just making sure you are eating enough protein, make sure you're eating enough fiber. And if you can't eat fiber,
Starting point is 00:17:21 then get a supplement that can help you with getting eat fiber, then get a supplement that can help you with getting that fiber. Because it keeps you full longer, faster, not faster, but longer. It helps with your absorption of your nutrients. So if you're not absorbing your nutrients, the other problem is that you may eat more because you don't feel like you're eating properly. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Also in nature, again, it goes back to like my nature kind of binding philosophy for nutrition. Like in nature, fiber's everywhere. You know, every plant has some type of fiber in it in nature. It's only when we live in our modern world that we have the ability to mechanically get rid of fiber that we're not getting enough. So if you were to eat in a more natural way,
Starting point is 00:18:07 like as we were built to eat, you should be getting more fiber. And I think they say what? You should be eating between 25 and 30 grams of fiber per day. Right? Now, I guess depending on the size of the person. But I think if you can do that, that's why incorporating fruits and vegetables
Starting point is 00:18:23 is so important. Taking a supplement, that's where I think where the supplements come. Like I was saying earlier, I think sometimes we're supplementing not for our body, but for what people think is like what's popular, right? Like you're taking the trendiest supplement. Yeah, some really age-obscure thing. Right, versus what your body actually, what you actually need. Like if you know your somebody's not eating enough fiber, then take that as Like if you know your somebody's not eating enough fiber, then take that as a supplement.
Starting point is 00:18:46 If your somebody's not eating enough fats, like fatty fish, then you can have like, take an Omega. Like making sure you're supplementing for yourself will help balance out your nutrition or your nutrients properly. That make sense? Makes sense. I think those are good ones.
Starting point is 00:19:01 What else did we miss? Eating enough protein, eating enough fiber, don't overly restrict your calories. That's another big one. I think people sometimes think in order to lose weight, they have to eat less. That's another big common myth because sometimes what happens is we end up eating more down the road because we're trying to eat less at a certain time. That's different than deprivation. Yeah, I think you don't want to deprive yourself. No, that's different though. For example, you're like, okay, I'm only going to have this one egg for breakfast, right? Versus having the egg, the avocado, the piece of whole grain toast.
Starting point is 00:19:45 We end that's different than deprivation is like, I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. I'm not going to eat that piece of chocolate. And then you end up like, you know, binging on a chocolate cake. This is different. I think that like, there's a misconception, a big nutrition mistake is that like we eating less is more actually sometimes eating more is more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Especially with regards to like protein. I think people need to eat especially with regards to like protein. I think people need to eat more actual food to avoid snacks. And that's why I always go back to the jungle analogy. Like if you stick to actual food, like how you would eat in the jungle, if you stick to actual food, you'll find yourself satiated a lot, but like more with more consistency, a lot faster. And the whole process is a lot more enjoyable when more, with more consistency, a lot faster. And the whole process is a lot more enjoyable when you try to like, have
Starting point is 00:20:28 these like clever little tricks and eat these kind of made in a lab foods that everyone seems to be eating now, some cool thing that's being pushed on TikTok. What is it? I just, all of these things, I can't even, I'm so divorced from that stuff that I don't even know the name of it, but I see like, and I'm not going to name names because I don't know, I don't know who's been on this podcast before, but like all these things, like, you know, you know what I mean? Like things made in a lab versus things that are natural.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh, I know. Well, that to me is a bunch of nonsense. We're going to do a podcast about that right now, which is like these like crazy, like, you know, myths and debunking some of these things. Nobody I know who's in really good shape and no high-level athlete consumes more than 20% of their diet in these kind of edge man-made foods. Every, especially athletes, every high-performing athlete and they'll have probably two, three, four foods that they religiously like, they almost worship these foods because they think they have these like magical powers
Starting point is 00:21:25 to make them function better. And it's because they kind of do. Like every athlete I know has like, whenever I look at what they eat, they always talk about two or three or four foods that they absolutely love. And they're usually, actually, this is one more thing I would say is nutrient density. Like focus, people don't focus enough on like nutrient density, not just macro, but micro, like the hidden invisible nutrients inside food. A lot of this has to do with color. So like colorful foods. I was just going to say that, you know, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I was just going to say that because actually what I was actually going to say, what you were saying is like, I have, and I agree with what you were saying, but I also think that there's a little bit of a caveat to that. And that is, it's really important to have... I eat very boring, right? Like I eat the same things over and over again. To someone else it's boring or to you it's boring? To anybody it's boring, right? Like I eat the same thing over and over again.
Starting point is 00:22:17 But I will say that I do, even though I think it's important, I do think that I've did my body an injustice, which is like, I think variety actually works better overall for your overall health. Like, because if you're not eating a variety of foods, you might be missing out on some nutrients that you otherwise need. Like for me, forever, I would have like, I love asparagus and chicken, or like, you know, asparagus and salmon. But like I missed out on a whole, you know, rainbow of other vegetables that are really important.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Literally rainbow, like in terms of colour. Literally rainbow, like all the colours. Like, I feel like it's really important to incorporate colourful food into your diet. And again, this goes back to how we're built. Yeah. Why do like candy companies and just food companies in general, so they just recently banned Red, whatever. Thank God, Red Dye. Red Dye number 40,
Starting point is 00:23:14 but they're just gonna switch it to Red Dye number 39 or whatever. So I don't buy any of this shit to be honest with you. I'm not that excited about it. We're moving in the right direction, but like I'm not trusting the food companies and the food scientists to be my like health czar all of a sudden. But what I would say is why do they force these dyes into food?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Because it tricks your brain into thinking it's nutrients and your brain wants nutrients, especially for kids, but adults too, the reason why they, why are they, why do you have to add color to these made in a lab foods? Because otherwise your brain would be like, that's bullshit. I don't want that. That has no nutrients in it. But with the color, all of a sudden your brain's like, Oh, give me some of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Well, I also think that people do that. I think that's also because if it looks good, people are, it's more enticing to eat for sure. Because we're wired to eat food based visually. Yeah. You know, I recently went to a restaurant here. I'm really, I'm so upset about this. I really am.
Starting point is 00:24:13 First of all, I go to this restaurant at least five times a week. This to me was the thing that I thought it was the cleanest version, right? It was, I get a chicken kebab and salad. Like, and I loved it. I loved the chicken and the garlic sauce on the side. And it was like, it's something that I felt like was the healthiest version, like at the restaurant. So I would, I would like force people to go with me.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Like whenever I do go out to eat. The garlic sauce, like the white dip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife loves that stuff. I love it. I love the garlic sauce with the white. Oh! It's, yeah. My wife loves that stuff. I love it. I love the garlic sauce with the white. Oh!
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's good, it's good. It's delicious. So I would literally force whoever I would be having like a meal with, I'd be like, let's go to this restaurant, right? And recently I found out, and the chicken is like, they grill the chicken in front of you. Like they put it on the barbeque. I think I know where this story is going to go.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And I'm like, and it was like, I thought it was super healthy, right? And I asked them, I'm like, what's in the marinade? It's so delicious. And like I, like I've asked a couple of times and I got the basics the first time. Oh, it's olive oil. We put some yogurt in it. Olive oil. Yeah. Okay. No.
Starting point is 00:25:19 But then they told me that they're like, the one guy was like, and we use egg color number 40. I'm like, huh? And he's like, I'm like, it wasn't, I'm like, isn't the saffron the color? I'm like, they're like, no, it's yellow egg 40. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes in the back.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'm like, let me see what you're talking about. He brings out the- He pulled it out for you. Yes, he brought out the food coloring that they add to the recipe to make it look yellow, to make it look like they're using saffron. Because saffron is really expensive. Well, saffron is a really expensive spice, right? And I'm paying like the chicken skewers. You can get Spanish saffron is cheaper, but yeah. Okay, but the chicken skewers $22. It's not like it's so cheap. And I assumed that it was like a spice that they were using. He broke my heart when he brought out the egg color number 40, like the egg yolk.
Starting point is 00:26:13 To make it yellow. Is that in the chicken or the sauce? In the marinade, no, in the marinade that he marinades the chicken in. And so it took me four people to get me to the actual answer. The first three people just said, oh, it's olive oil, the lemon juice. They use all the basic ingredients. So I thought, oh, great.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But it was the actual, the guy told me that. Even the olive oil, look. But wait, isn't that horrible? I'm gonna say no. And the reason I'm gonna say no is because, look, you have to get out of this idea, by you, I mean everyone, people listening. And I tell my clients, I tell my family, I tell everyone like, you can't be so
Starting point is 00:26:46 naive, their job, the restaurant's job, food company's job is not to make you healthy. I know. Their job is to make them profit. And I understand that. Like I'm a businessman. I am not expecting them to make me healthy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's not going to happen. They are going to make as much profit for themselves as possible. So provided they're not overtly poisoning you and you don't know, never go back or give a bad review on Yelp or whatever, it's not going to hurt their bottom line. What they want to do is lower their expenses, meaning using cheap ingredients. So when they say olive oil, sure it's olive oil. Really. It's like pure extra virgin olive oil. No, chances are it's a blend of olive oil and canola oil. I walked past a very famous chain and I'm not going to say who. Who? Can I say who?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Why not? I'm going to crush people's soul. Okay, who? It's California Chicken Cafe. Oh, I love that place. Yeah. It's number one. I'm going to ruin everyone's day.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So I walked past, and by the way, I love California chicken cafe. And from time to time I still get it, but they were my neighbors. So I had a gym literally right next to them and I knew everyone. And I walked past, I didn't want to know this, but I had already, I walked past and I saw them loading, loading the crates and it said olive oil. So they're loading their olive oil. And I looked and it's not even in fine print, but these are in big industrial crates that they get. And it said 75% canola, 25% olive oil. So it was an olive oil blend and it's three quarters canola oil, which is seed oil. Now, some people find this controversial.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's not. Take it from me. You shouldn't be eating seed oil, okay? Seed oil is the number one poison in the Western food supply. And it's the reason why Westerners are so fat and everyone else is not, is because of seed oil, straight up and down. Why do you think that? Why do I think that seed oil is so bad? Yeah. Because it literally triggers the inflammatory process
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Starting point is 00:30:26 Grab it today. [♪ Music playing. Vibrant music playing. Vibrant music playing.] So that's really interesting. So that suits me. There's a fine line between being, is that deception? Because people are going to California. And I'll tell you why. People are going to California Chicken Cafe.
Starting point is 00:30:47 For me, it's called the Pita Grill. And I would go there all the time. And I was really... Like, I thought I was, like, doing a healthy thing for myself. Like, I thought, like, this is like, I'm going here because I believed it to be the healthier option. I didn't think that they would be using that ingredient, like food coloring.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like to me, I think there is like a level of deception because people are going to these places because they think they're doing something healthy for themselves. I agree with you though, like it's not the restaurant's job to make me healthy. I hear that. And I think it's like their job is for their bottom line and for their profit. Absolutely. But there is something to be said for these places that kind of position themselves as like healthy options and then they're doing things that are kind of not that healthy.
Starting point is 00:31:34 They're all doing it. Okay, like... I know. One of my life philosophies is I refuse to be a victim of any in any way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I feel any sense of victimhood in myself, I extinguish it immediately. And I see that with the, I see that with a lot of, a lot of people around food now. Oh, they're trying to poison us. Oh, big, big farmer.
Starting point is 00:31:55 No, you're right. Big food and they're all in it. And like, all right, whatever. Of course they are. They're, it's a fucking business. Like, honestly, it's a, sorry to, excuse my French. It's a fucking business. Like honestly, it's a, sorry to, excuse my friends. It's a fucking business. Grow up, like grow up. Like this is not their job. It's your job. You feed your kids what they should be feeding. Go and get an apple. They're not poisoning the
Starting point is 00:32:15 apples. I mean, I know they put wax and stuff on it, but go wash the apple, give your kid an apple. Stop buying things in a package and expecting just because there's a picture of a child with a rainbow over the top that it's healthy. Of course it's fucking just because there's a picture of a child with a rainbow over the top that it's healthy. Of course it's fucking nice, it's a picture. I agree, but this is where the fine line becomes, right? I believe that we all have to take ownership for our own health for sure, right? And I don't disagree with you what you're saying. I believe though, that if someone is under the impression that they are doing something healthy for you, and they're not outwardly giving you the facts, we should all be our own investigative journalists.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I didn't get to the bottom of what those ingredients were in that chicken skewer, how they marinate the chicken, until I asked four different people. The first three people did not disclose the food coloring. And it's not like it's a recipe that they're like putting on the door saying, by the way, this is the rest, this is the ingredients. Enter at your own risk. Right? So I had to like literally go to like the fourth person who then at least gave me the truth.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I don't think that's fair. Just like if at like the chicken cafe or wherever, they're saying to you, oh, you know what, we're using olive oil, but are they? I mean, it depends on what the law is. There's a deception piece. There is a deception piece. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying you've got to like make me healthy. I'm not saying that the restaurant is beholden on them. No, of course it's my responsibility, but at least like provide the facts to me
Starting point is 00:33:46 and then let me make my own decision. Look, if I were the president, which I'll never be, because I'm an immigrant, I'm not allowed to be president, but if I was president, I would pass a law stating, like saying that things like the olive oil thing would be illegal. If you say it's olive oil, it has to be 100% pure olive oil. But...
Starting point is 00:34:03 But I guess, but then again, like, not to get into the nuance, right? But is it practical? No, but then again, it is technically all, it is olive oil. It's a small percentage of olive oil. But they, they omitted the fact that there's also seed oil. It should at least be 51%. But again, like there are so, it would, it's so, it will be years. I think we should start moving in that process. So I'm happy that we banned red, whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But these companies are going to be as low as they can legally get away with, or at least that makes sense for their business. That's what you have to expect. You have to expect almost nothing from these companies because their job is to make profit. And we should change the law so that the low bar that we have, the extremely low bar, especially in America.
Starting point is 00:34:48 In England, where I'm from, artificial food coloring has been banned for decades. By the way, Canada too. This is a US thing. Because it was linked to ADD. Yeah, there's a lot, but the thing is like that's the whole thing right now in the US, right? Like things that are in the US, nutrition-wise, they are adding all this shit to the food. The bar is on the floor. The FDA, and what I will say is the FDA, I'm pretty sure, I think it's well known that they're a corrupt organization.
Starting point is 00:35:18 So I would probably, instead of going after each individual food company, I would look more at the structure of the FDA because their job is overtly not to make profit. Their job is to protect and serve and benefit the people. And so I don't think they're doing their job. So if I was to go after anyone, I wouldn't go off to California chicken cafe because I don't think what they're doing is even illegal. I think I would go, a, it's more practical to go to the top and try to change the laws from the top and B, they're saying they're doing is even illegal. I think I would go, A, it's more practical to go to the top and try to change the laws from the top. And B, they're saying that- They're trying to do that. That's like a big movement right now. Is it because, yeah, I agree with you. Like they're adding things in the US, they're not. And it has to be from
Starting point is 00:35:59 much more of the top. I think it's changed at the middle. I don't blame McDonald's, I blame FDA. Yeah, I understand that. Okay, you guys, now I'm like even more angry because I would love to have a chicken kebab and I'm not going to do it. I'll make you some chicken kebab. Okay, thank you. Like I said earlier, I don't like to eat every meal out,
Starting point is 00:36:17 but when I do go out, I like to know that I like to believe that I'm eating an object. Do your research. Yeah, do your research. That's what I would say. And stay away from, you said that another big mistake is, you think a big thing is staying away from seed oils because it's such an inflammatory... If I were to give someone one nutrition tip,
Starting point is 00:36:35 you know, it's stay away from seed oils. It's not just about fat, it's linked to everything. You know, it's linked to... People say that it's... And this sounds so dramatic, but I believe it. It's as bad, if not worse than smoking. Like it's linked to every, because it's, because fats are part of, like fatty acids
Starting point is 00:36:54 are part of every single cell in your body. They make up essentially the structure of your body. If your fatty acid profile is wrong, it makes sense that every single process in your body is going to be affected negatively by that. And seed oils are super high in omega sixes, which is a fatty acid that gets basically represented in every single cell in your body. So it can affect anything and everything. And it's rampant in us.
Starting point is 00:37:21 There's a reason we love fats and our body absorbs fats. We need fats. But if you have the wrong fats, they will, it will kill you. And if you have the right fats, it will do the opposite. How dramatic. What a dramatic ending. So everyone stay away from seed oils and watch your portions. Yeah. Thank you. Have a great one, guys. Bye-bye.

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