Habits and Hustle - Episode 503: Anthony William: Heavy Metals, Brain Fog, and The Voice That Guides Him

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Most people don’t fail at getting healthy because they don’t care. They fail because they’re following the wrong advice. In this episode, I sit down with Anthony William, the Medical Medium, to talk about why doing everything “right” can still leave you feeling like crap. We get into how stress, overtesting, and over-supplementing can backfire, and why simplicity beats every hack. He shares how metals in the brain can fuel issues like OCD and ADHD, the five foods he swears by for detox and recovery, and why celery juice became more than just a trend. We also talk about what people get wrong about protein, clean eating, and chasing “optimization.” Whether you love him or question him, this conversation will make you stop and rethink what being healthy really means. Anthony William is the founder of the global celery juice movement and a #1 New York Times best-selling author known for his Medical Medium book series. Since the age of four, he has said he receives health insights from what he calls the Spirit of Compassion, helping people improve their well-being through a more intuitive approach. What we discuss: (05:42) Why “healthy” habits might actually be keeping you sick (13:10) The hidden downside of overtesting (24:57) How the Medical Medium was trained by a voice since childhood (28:45) The real reason you feel tired even when you “do everything right” (44:02) How heavy metals in the brain may trigger OCD and ADHD symptoms (1:11:59) The five foods Anthony swears by for real detox and recovery (01:17:57) Why protein isn’t the miracle nutrient you think it is (01:23:39) The truth behind celery juice and why it became a global movement (01:26:11) Why Anthony turned down Hollywood deals and the “health celebrity” circuit Thank you to our sponsors: Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off  Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off  Manna Vitality: Visit mannavitality.com and use code JENNIFER20 for 20% off your order  Prolon: Get 30% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Just visit https://prolonlife.com/JENNIFERCOHEN and use code JENNIFERCOHEN to claim your discount and your bonus gift. Amp fits is the perfect balance of tech and training, designed for people who do it all and still want to feel strong doing it. Check it out at joinamp.com/jen    Find more from Jen:  Website: https://www.jennifercohen.com/ Instagram: @therealjencohen   Books: https://www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Anthony William:  Website: www.medicalmedium.com Youtube: @MedicalMediumAnthonyWilliam Tiktok: @medicalmedium Snapchat: @medicalmedium X: @medicalmedium Pinterest: @medicalmedium Twitch: @medicalmedium

Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it. We have the medical medium, otherwise known as Anthony Williams. Thank you for being here. Oh, you've got to take the ass off my, my William. Oh, sorry, Anthony William. You're right. Anthony William. Easy mistake. Made all the time. It's a very easy mistake. Thank you for forgiving me so easily. You are so interesting. I mean, guys, if you don't know, know who Anthony is, or a.k.a. the medical medium. This will be a really interesting podcast for you. He is very controversial. I would say controversial. Very polarizing. People either love you. Or freaking hate me. Or hate you. So much. They want me dead. Do what? Like, they don't. There's a big extreme. I mean, I had a debt threat yesterday.

You did? It's crazy right before I did the Barnes & Noble book signing. I was there a ton of people showed up and everything right before you know we did it i was getting out of the car and stuff and all of a sudden my team's like boom another death threat and i'm like great you know and i'm like i'm like don't worry about it guys let's just get this done they're like okay don't worry about it really why do you think that is like why do you think people are you're just you're just not allowed to like heal a lot of people right like millions of people worldwide it's there's a big difference between like, there's a big difference between a dude who's a practitioner or an influencer or, you know, a doctor or a healer, whatever they are. And they get one or two people better.

And then they shout it from the rooftops. They're just like, I got this case better. I got this case better. And they want pub on it. And they want, you know, media on it. And they're freaking out because they got two people better. We're talking about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands in the millions of being in wheelchairs, then walking finally. Being on mattresses. island, a medical medium term, mattress island, where you're just sick, chronically ill, and you're in bed, and you're in bed for 10 years. You get like two hours a day out of bed, and you heal because this information is so powerful. You're not allowed to get too many people better in this world. Bottom line, period. If you do, you're going to get some hate. And that's

just the way it is, you know? Plus the topics I talk about, you know, it's right now, you know how the political thing is so big. It's just political, it's just pounding the media, right? You've got the Dems, the Repubs, Conservatives, right? They're just going at it, right? Well, the thing is, is with medical medium information, I hit stuff like getting your blood drawn, you know, blood tests, how they're not good for you and why, and how to do it properly, and that stuff pisses people off. That's an entirely different types of, you know, type of controversial, way different than just what's being pounded on the media right now. And so when people hear that stuff, they instantly go, you know, fuck you. What's he saying? Don't get your

blood tested. Don't get your blood work. This guy's bad. You know, he's bad. Meanwhile, no, just listen to the information. Learn what I'm talking about and protect yourself. Save your life. Save your own life. So I think a lot of misinformation, a lot of confusion makes it difficult. But, you know, and then I broke the chemtrail thing many years ago, got censored because of it, fought through censorship, fought through it. It's like I piss a lot of people off by just breaking things early. The whole fragrance thing, air fresheners, scented candles, all of that. That's all my doing to actually get that information out there. And when I first started working on hammering that information out there about how toxic it is, people got angry because everybody was doing

like self-care with their scented candles. And when COVID came, everybody was doing their scented candles and lighting all their friends coming over and they had it all in the coffee. table and in the kitchen. And the minute they hear me going, that stuff is so bad for you. You have no idea what that shit's doing to you. They're like, I hate this guy. I hate them. This is for my mental healthy, scented candles. So, you know, the controversy is there. You either love me and you realize, oh, yeah, you're right. The scented candles are probably killing me. I love this guy. Or you're not going to take my scented candles away, buddy. They're good for my self-care, and I hate you. So it's in these, I'm just giving you a couple of examples.

We can even go into deeper nitty gritty, but... Well, talk about, I want to go into the nitty gritty. You just said a couple of things, and people are probably curious what you're talking about. So talk about the blood tests. Why are blood tests not good for you? What happens is the reason why somebody's sick, and this is critical to know, is because they have an immune system problem. No matter what it is, no matter what it is, if they're sick, their immune system is struggling. And they go and get the blood work.

You know, they get the bloods run, but their immune system that they need to protect them so they don't get sicker is leaving their body in the vials of blood that's being drawn, right? And then the alternative health movement, now here's the reason why I'm hated too. This is great. The alternative health movement in the last, I'd say, six years, maybe seven years, went to this whole your immune system is in your gut, right? The immune system is in your gut. Did you ever hear that before?

A million times. A million times, but it's wrong. Really? It's wrong. It's dead wrong. And dead wrong. How? Why? You have some immune system in your gut, some. And then they also try to make you think it's all in your intestinal tract. Your immune system is in your intestinal tract. No, it's not. It's in your bloodstream. That's where it is. Circulating throughout your whole body, trying to stop brain infections all the time, trying to stop you from getting sepsis. Your immune system is in your freaking bloodstream. The reason why the immune system talk came to be where it's in your gut is because of the probiotic. companies because of the money poured into all of that and the advertising and the money and

the in the you know promotion and the campaigns for the whole probiotic movement to explode they came to this decision universally that it only makes sense if probiotics are helping your gut they're helping your immune system your immune systems in your gut this whole thing developed from this right but it was wrong immune systems in your bloodstream yes you've got some in your gut. Yes, your lymphocytes in your lymphatic system. Yes, you've got different areas, but it's not like people think. And so you die quickly or even die slowly when you're getting your blood drawn. So you have to be really careful, especially if you're sick. If you're somebody with lupus, you're somebody with MS, you're somebody with ALS, you're somebody with Lyme disease,

neurological Lyme disease, keep on getting that blood work and you're just going to be like, that's it, until you're done, until you're better. ridden until you're on mattress island now and sicker than ever because the sicker you get when you're getting that blood drawn you're going to go to another doctor and get more blood drawn we don't know why you're sick we got to send you to a specialist now let's draw more blood you see and now it's the trap it's the trap of all time and so when people hear this they're like the guy's anti-blood testing he's a bad guy don't listen to this guy and then you get hate for it but really the reality is you know you're hurting yourself but you've got to know how not to hurt

yourself. Pregnant women are getting five, seven vials, ten vials drawn from them. Periodically, right? Every trimester, they're getting it drawn from them, why they got a baby in them, and that baby could be getting hemorrhagic shock from getting blood drawn, and they don't even know it, like mild hemorrhagic shock. And that's happening every day. So pregnant women should not get their blood drawn. And if they do, it should be a baby's vial and a quarter vial. And a quarter vial. And then if they need another one, then another baby-sized vial, quarter vial they should get. But they shouldn't just keep on giving out their precious, viable, vital resource and just throwing it away. And the industry doesn't even need that much blood. And that's

a whole other story. We could be here all day talking about blood draw. But the immune system, you're sick? You got thyroid problems? No. No blood draw like the way they want it. No way. Don't be just be like, fine. You know, go ahead. Boom. Pouring that stuff. out. Then you're sick. You go to another doctor. They're pouring it out. Don't do that. Because if you do that, you're going to get sicker and sicker and sicker and end up bedridden or in some early grave or whatever. It's going to happen to you and it happens to people every single day. Cancer, they take blood from them nonstop. People with cancer, just keep on pulling it from them, pulling it from them. And it's ridiculous to how it works. And cancer, you're fighting cancer. Your immune system

is struggling. So let's keep on removing your immune system. Let's do that. And that's what people don't realize. So the system's crooked. It's bent. It's busted. And they need to actually start doing it right. They take a little bit of blood and you can get everything you ever wanted from a little bit of blood. A drop of blood you can get whatever you want. Right. So the why is it that you're, when I go to the doctor, they are taking like 20,000 vials of blood? Because they're stealing the blood. The doctor isn't, but the industry is. They're stealing the blood. Where are they putting Exactly. You'll never know. Nobody does. That's the problem. Nobody does. I do get like, it's an exorbitant amount of blood all the time. And you know what? You're going to be kicked

down another six month in your health, six months, a year in your health, and you don't even know it. You might develop more symptoms, more conditions a year later because you're getting all that blood because it's just, and it could be slow, could be slow where you get the blood drawn. You're not going to experience those problems yet, but then it comes a year later because your immune system was removed. Parts of it were removed. Your Epstein bar started coming up. By the way, you got Epstein bar. Your Epstein bar started rising up. I do. Yeah, you do. Your Epstein bar started rising up. Somebody's Epstein bars rising up. And then we get in trouble. What is Epstein Bar, exactly? It's a virus. It's a virus that almost everybody has, but Epstein bar causing problems.

And, you know, like your thyroid, that's what's going to happen with your thyroid down the road. You're going to have this Epstein bar problem, thyroid and all that stuff. It's going to start kicking in. But it's a dangerous? Is it? Is it dangerous? I mean, it can be for some people. It causes a lot of illnesses, causes a lot of problems. There's different varieties of Epstein Bar. But that's the thing. There's all these women out there.

They're losing all their blood. They're giving it away. It's getting taken away. Wait, hold on. I have Epstein Bar? Yeah, yeah, you do. You're laughing about it. Is that date?

No, no, it's nothing to panic about. Nothing to panic about. How do you know by looking at me? I know, I know. But what does that mean? What does that mean I have? like, give me a symptom. Like, why, how?

You just, like, threw it out there. It means if you keep on getting blood, because we're on this blood drop thing, if you keep on, like, unloading that blood to that degree, not being cautious, not being, like, really careful telling your doctor, look, phlebotomist, look, just take two quarter vials. Get what you can, you know, a month from now, we'll do another two quarter vials. Are you allowed to say that to people? Yeah, of course you are. Of course you are.

Because you can put your foot down and be like, that's the way to do it. That's it. Because if someone's a healthy person, right, going to the doctor to get their blood drawn, nothing really happens to them. It's for the people who have like real severe illnesses. When they get their blood drawn is what you're saying is what's dangerous. It's dangerous for everybody. Because you could be somebody that's 40 years old, 45 years old.

You're not quite sick yet with too many things. You've had a couple of things in the way, some symptoms here and there. And then you're like 46 or something. You've had a lot of blood drawn. You're getting all kinds of tests that year. And boom. Now you're like, I can't function. I got brain fog. I got fatigue. I'm going to this guy. I'm going to this herbalist. I'm going to this practitioner, this healer. I'm getting this done, that done. And then it's like, what's going on here? And then you end up getting a diagnosis of some kind, like autoimmune. The more blood you get drawn, the more chances you're going to get an autoimmune diagnosis. If you have an autoimmune diagnosis, you're already getting blood drawn because they're monitoring your autoimmune diagnosis. Now you're getting worse autoimmune as you go along. and worse autoimmune as you go along. It's the biggest trap is the blood draw problem.

Wow. That's incredible. Yeah. Tell me, is everything? And here's what's, here's another thing. I'm the only one that broke this story. I'm the only one that broke this truth.

And that's why I'm hated. That's why. Now you're going to see maybe five years from now, just like so much of medical medium information came to town. And it's like natural flavors we were talking about earlier. You know, MM info, we, like, I got it out there. Now, all of a sudden, companies are like, we have no natural flavors in our product. You'll see that we got no this in our product.

And it's MM Info that did that, just like fruit fear. Everybody's eating fruit again. That's medical medium work. That was medical medium hardship fighting the fruit fear in the health movement where fruit was demonic. It was evil. It was sugar. You eat fruit. You're going to get cancer.

And there was that whole story about fruit all those years in the health movement. and it took like blood sweat tears, medical media info, to break it and shut that down. Now, the carnivore dudes are doing fruit every day with their meat. Everybody's doing fruit. It was like, I love fruit. You know, that's how it is. It's kind of like that. But the blood draw, but the blood draw thing is going to be big.

It's going to get real big. And then the tide is going to turn. And people are going to be really aware of it. And all you're going to hear is, quarter vile, quarter vile. I went to my doctor, asked for a quarter vial. I don't want all my immune system removed from me. M.M. Info. And you're going to hear that pretty soon.

But to get me to that point, to get to that point, it took a lot of bashings and beatings and censorship and hate, you know, happens along the way, you know, being a pioneer, that's what you get. And then it all comes out later. Right. Give me another one. Besides, okay, we talked about the flood. Tell me one other thing that. is like on the cusp that has that's kind of not known yet but is on that precipice where what the

chemtrels really are what is that so here's how it works okay you got in the 1960s the world was getting trashed by chemicals because chemical factories and the chemical industry they were releasing it into the oceans releasing it into the rivers into the lakes and everything was dying that's what was happening well yeah and landfills too so They couldn't keep that up, but they needed to produce more chemicals and more chemicals. There are millions of chemicals produced every year. Like chemicals that aren't even used where it's just, you know, testing and, you know, let's test this chemical, let's try this chemical, let's, you know, all that.

Let's develop another chemical. And then there's byproduct of that chemical. But they have nowhere to put it. But what's interesting is, where is it all going? They're not dumping all those chemicals in the lakes and the rivers and the oceans anymore. and the landfills. If they did, it's way more chemicals than they ever had at the 60s, 50s, 40s, and 30s. See?

Where is it going when there's more than ever before being produced? And so I released this information about chemtrails. What's happening is there's a deal-brokered, private deal, obviously, and all these chemicals are being pumped into trucks, brought the planes, filled up with containers in the planes, not in their gas. tanks, you know, like people think, put up in the sky and dropped on us slowly. So you have these chemtrail planes. But right now, we're in this baby stage. The baby stage is geoengineering. So you'll hear right now, like, you know, the EPA talks about we're looking into, we're

looking into geoengineering. And you see out there, there's some political figures, we're looking into geoengineering. It's way bigger than that. We have years and years, decades of chemicals being loaded into trucks, loaded into planes, and dropped on everybody slowly. That's how they're getting rid of it. Where are they dropping it? But we're 20 years from now, we may know this by then. But wait, where are they dropping it? Where?

Just everywhere on everybody worldwide. It's just being dropped. It's a different way of getting rid of it. You just fan it out in the skies all over the world. And so that's info that I've been breaking out there. It's not just geoengineering where there's some kind of private military, government, kind of thing doing this geoengineering where they're trying to change

and manipulate the weather and they're putting, you know, albarium in the sky or whatever they're doing. Sure, a little bit of that's happening too, okay? They do want to manipulate the weather, but everybody's getting wrapped up in that in not understanding to the degree of how much chem is being dropped.

How many planes are dropping them all over the United States and worldwide? And so it's way bigger than anybody knows, And it's way more classified than anybody knows. It's way more. And so that's where we are with the chemtrials. But I'm really early on this, really early on this. So you'll see now people talking about chemtrails.

You'll see that. I got censored when I put out my chemtrial podcast six years ago. Yeah, I got totally censored for that. I mean, they crushed me with censorship everywhere they can. And who is they? Like, why did anybody give a shit? Like, why were they censoring the crap out of me? Who are the they?

Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. But who was censoring you? You got the entire monster chemical industry, worldwide planetary, like monster chemical industry. Got to think about that. They're producing chemicals for every product that's everywhere, in every shape, fashion, and form. It's not just plastic. It's not just the world's made out of plastic.

The chemicals that are being made and manufactured. And they can't dump it. If they dumped it into Lake Erie, it would be completely 100% dead. If they dumped it into the ocean right now, the algae blooms would be way more worse than they are now. They can't. They can't do those runoffs anymore. They can't run. Every factory, every chemical industry can't run all that stuff into the water like that anymore.

They got to fan it out. They got to do that whole osmosis thing. They got to just sprinkle it about. That's the chemical industry. But we're nowhere scratching that surface. We are nowhere close to scratching that surface. Then that's the problem right now. But the good news is, the good news, don't get me right.

wrong. I'm so glad they're talking about geoengineering because it's going to get us someday closer, hopefully, to those private, you know, airplanes landing in private fields, on federal lands, on private land, bases all around the world, and trucks filling up these planes with chemical. It gets as closer to getting to that reality is what it does so that we could get there. So right now, when somebody talks about geoengineering, like I say the EPA right now, that's great. It's amazing. I'm glad they're looking into everything they can. Thank God, because it's going to make a change.

There's a good chance. And I'm glad, like, there's states now considering, hey, let's try to stop any of this aerial spray that could be geoengineering. But it's way bigger than that. Is that why people are getting sick more? Is that— It's not helping. It's not helping with people who have asthma and all kinds of different health problems. It's not helping at all.

It's a lot of metal falling out of the sky. Mercury, lead, arsenic, just dropping out of the sky every day. Copper dropping out of the sky. So we have all of that. And that's not even just like old nuclear fallout, radiation, other things. It's not even just all that. There's a lot of stuff involved. But the chem trail is a mixed brew.

It's not just this one brew for geoengineering. And that's what they're trying to do to manipulate the weather. That's like preschool understanding right now. now, preschool, like that is basic understanding. That's like 101. It's bigger than that. The bruise that are coming out of different planes, it's different. Each one is different.

Some of these chemicals have been batches made 50 years ago that's been, like, in backlogged, and they're trying to get that stuff loaded up and dropped because it's building up. And the chemical industry is a monster. That's the big one right there. And, you know, people talk about the Illuminati, and they talk about the hierarchy. They're behind the chemical. industry like that that they're definitely wrapped up tied into that anyway so here's another example of information i talk about and probably why i'm hated yeah i got to throw that in today yeah

this is a w hated you know this is this is why so then again like but how do i know that you get your information from a spirit is that the whole thing like a spirit of compassion is that spirit of compassion oh that oh that's that's great when we talk about spirit of compassion right so age four I heard a voice. H4, age 4, yeah, please tell. Because I want you to give people your origin story. Absolutely. And this voice was talking about advanced medical information.

And I've had to dedicate my whole life to that very thing. Like all the different bugs that people have and pathogens, different rights of pathogens, and the toxic heavy metals. Like the autism thing, like, yeah, it's toxic heavy metals. Thanks, because I've been talking about it for 40 years. So, you know, from spirit of compassion. That's the whole point. The mercury with Alzheimer's. You know, like all of that information, Parkinson's being toxic heavy metals, toxic copper,

all of this came to me when I was like four or five, six, seven years old. I couldn't pronounce anything, could barely, you know, say it, but I would say it and get it out. By eight years old, nine years old, I was learning advanced medical information, was being trained by this voice I hear. And sure, someone might be like, oh, okay, he's not a scientist, okay, he's not a doctor. If I wanted to be a scientist, I could have been one. If I wanted to be a doctor, I could have been one. Like, people are like, he's not an MD, he's not a doctor.

I could have been one. I could be one now. I could go and be one. Nothing can stop me. I could do it. But I don't want to. I hear this voice. It gives me advanced information because how else would you know about the blood draw problem?

That came from the voice I hear. I didn't wake up one morning like I'm a real smart guy and be like, oh, I'm a genius. You know, yeah, this blood draw thing, I just just pull it out. of my ass like I'm just really you know I'm really smart I'm a highly intelligent guy you know so maybe it's not no it's it's it's I hear the voice tell me the voice is like here's how it works here's what's happening here's what's going to be a big part of taking people down with the chronic chronic illness it's going to be a big deal if we don't change this so get working on it here's the information here's where your immune system is here's how it works here's how people are

going to get sicker and sicker getting their blood you're on so in all those details involved are in there. And that information is profound and it's life-saving. If you're somebody sick with autoimmune right now and you're like getting sicker, but you're getting those routine blood draws, I just saved your life. And okay, maybe not me, but the voice I hear just saved your life potentially. Would you still hear the voice? Like how often do you hear the voice? Too often. Really? Like can you hear like multiple times a day? Yeah. You can? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I hear the voice too much. But, you know, but that's just the way it is. Since you're four. Since I was four, yeah. Made life difficult. But what did it do? It created these

incredible Bibles, these medical medium bibles, information that's healed millions of people worldwide. And just for the record, more people healed than anything else in the world is medical medium information. More people healed from getting out of wheelchairs, multiple scrosis, AOS, any kind of condition. More people healed. Children that weren't verbal. becoming verbal after doing the HMDS, like more people getting their lives back, rising out of the ashes because of this voice I hear. Yeah, it makes me different.

Yeah, sure. And then people could be like, oh, I doubt it or I doubt this voice. Fine. You get sick, find the information. You get sick someday. You know, get on the bandwagon, learn this information, and save your own ass, save your own skin. Because this information does that for people.

And that's the most profound, you know, incredible part of it. Well, let's talk about cancer. okay or like the wheel because cancer is a big one that i think everyone's biggest fear one of mine and if this information is out there and people why are people still dying of like terminal cancer if these this stuff is like written in so many books like you know when people have no more hope like wouldn't they just even if they didn't believe in you wouldn't they just go to the books and or someone would say to them try this particular thing you know the health scene you know how much is out there right you know okay okay you got tons of money out there yeah

Tons. We're talking about billions, right? More. We're talking about, you know, really wealthy people that become influencers that come from tons of money. They go and they get, you know, campaign people, promotion, you know, people, PR firms behind them. They learn how to game the system. They run ads by the truckloads on YouTube, wherever it is, you know, Instagram, whatever, and they run, you know, they spend a million in ads a month. But people don't realize this, okay? Well, there's a bunch of those.

they're clogging up everything so that you just can't find your way. It's hard to find your way. And so with medical medium information, it's word of mouth because we don't do that. We don't take millions of dollars and try to dominate the entire game, the system, and try to pull that card. So this is an organic movement, but a real one of millions healed across the world. And so it's word of mouth. But word of mouth is like this. I healed. I healed doing this. you know, try this, right? I'm not running, you know, a million of, million dollars of ads a month to try to trick people into, you know, the information. It's never like that. High integrity, it's just clear. It's just, hey, here's the info. It's in these books. Someone heals. They tell

somebody else. That's how it's done. It's a big world. And what I'm trying to say is the health movement is saturated. It's really saturated right now. Okay. You got every single day, you've got another thousand individuals coming out with a new product, coming out with a new podcast. There's probably 20 million health podcasts, but nobody knows they exist because they're all like, they're all like underdogs, right? They're just down there.

They don't know it takes millions. They don't know it takes a lot of money. It takes advertisers. It takes all of that. They don't know how to game the system. They're not there. They're just like, I'll start a podcast tomorrow, but there's millions of them, right?

But either way, the system is, the health movement is saturated. So it takes like an angel, basically, at this point, why someone's on their hands and knees, praying to God, being like, I need an answer. I got mystery chronic illness. The doctor doesn't know what's wrong with me anymore. I got 50 symptoms.

And then you're walking down Barnes & Noble Isle and an angel pushes the medical medium Bible that pushes the medical medium book right off the shelf, lands on the ground, they pick it up, and they're like, what is this thing? And they open it up and it starts to make sense. You know, MM info isn't common sense, because common sense isn't all right. Is it so common?

It just makes sense. That's the difference. And they start saying, oh, my God, this is me. This is me with my condition. I got the tingles and the numbness and the aches and pains in the vertigo that won't go away, the dizziness. I got the jaw pain, the back pain, the neck pain. I got all these different things going on. I got the trigeminal neuralgia.

I got the migraines and the brain fog. I got the fatigue where I can't function. This has the answers. Here it is. And it takes, you know, a certain person to actually do that. And then if they say, wait, where did this come from? Oh, guy that hears a voice, I don't care. I got to heal.

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So is there like some type of, is there something that people should be doing every day that we're not doing to help our health, overall health, our immune system? Yeah. They shouldn't be worried about parasites because that's a, that whole thing's a fraud. So the whole parasite game is a fraud, big time. Wow. Why? Because, yeah, I'll explain it a little bit. If you get a parasite, it doesn't live with you on a monthly, yearly, basically.

for years keeping you sick. You get a parasite, and it's you or the parasite. That's it. You die or the parasite dies. So people get parasites all the time, but they get, they gets killed off by their own body all the time. You go to a restaurant, you get a bad meal, you barfed one time, you got some diarrhea, you got a parasite of some kind, you got foodborne illness, you got a parasite, you got a toxic foodborne illness. Five days later, you're feeling better, you're cleaned up, You barfed a couple of times. You're getting back in the action. It got killed off.

If it stays there, you barf and barf and barf. It doesn't get killed off yet. You barf, you barf, you barf, you barf until you die. You end up in a hospital. You're on, you know, a salt bag. They're like, well, we don't know. It could be an E. coli, sir. We don't know what it is.

What did you last eat? What happened? What's going on? And you're just in agony. And then they pump morphine in you because you can't handle the pain. That's a parasite. But it's you or the parasite. You live without it or you die with it.

That's how it works. People die all the time from parasites. But you can't have it both ways. You can't be living with one and sick with one for 10 years. You can't be. It's either you or the parasite. That's just how it works, right? So what are people living with?

Viruses. Schingles viruses. Epstein-Barr viruses. Scyto-Megoviruses. H.H.V.6. HHV7, HHV9, HHV10 through HHV16, Simplex 1, Simplex 2, different varieties of Simplex 1, Simplex 2. Shrep, lots of different varieties of strep.

They're living with all of this, and they're living with it for years. They get the thyroid nodules, that's from Epstein Bar. They get all these different problems. That's your fibromyalgia. They get autoimmune, that's from Epstein Bar, shingles, HHV6. And they live this life with viruses because you can live with. stealth viruses for years with no problem. You can live a whole lifetime and be sick on Mattress Island, like bedridden for 30 years, 50 years with viruses, pathogens, but not with

parasites. But what happened is parasite game. It's an easy one to sell people. You got parasites. That's what it is. And here, maybe you got this kind of, maybe you got trichenoa. Maybe you got this kind of parasite. And they're doing it to sell all the parasite cleanses and parasite products. It's another way to gain the system, and that's what's happening. It's another kind of variety of fraud, and it's rampant, and people are buying into it, and that's the sad part. And they'll do, they'll poach some medical medium information with it. They'll put lemon balm in it or something, or Cat's Claw, which is MM Info.

Those are antivirals. So they'll take a couple of those things and stick it in a parasite formula and start gearing the parasite formula more to medical medium information, which actually heals people with Lyme disease and other problems. And then they'll kind of trick people out that way. But either way, they're still screwing them over by saying, here's a parasite formula and get rid of your parasites. No, you don't have a parasite. Now, worms are different. Worms are entirely different. Worms are separate from parasites. Worms don't necessarily ever kill you. A big old fat tape worm, it gets too out of control. I mean, that can bring you down. But all the other basic worms,

They're not killers, and people are loaded with worms and live healthy lives to the 80, to their 90, meaning they have other problems, and they're shitting out worms, and they're pushing out pin worms, and they got different kinds of, you know, different varieties. They got liver flukes from time to time. They can get worms, but worms don't stick you in the hospital on morphine with an IV, saying to the doctor, you're in so much agony. I'm in so much agony, you have to cure me, doctor, please. And that's different.

Those are parasites that are like either you live or you die kind of parasite. So worms, you shouldn't be, worms are not dangerous. They're not, no, they're not. Parasites are saying either you'll live with them or you get killed by them. Yeah, you know, you either have to kill them. Yeah. Meaning like fast. So if you're in a restaurant, you just picked up a couple of,

A couple of parasites. Yeah. You just ate some shrimp. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And you get, like, sick from it. Yeah.

Now you're in the hospital. Right. So either you'll kill them off fast and you're done. Or if they live with you, you'll die from them. You'll eventually die from them. Because you won't, you'll get dehydrated. You'll be in too much pain. You'll lay in a hospital bed and die.

And guess how many people die with food poisoning? They keep it under wraps. Those stats aren't out there. They die all the time. They die at dinner tables. They die at tables. in restaurants. They die in hospitals all the time. Food-borne. Yeah, food poisoning. Food-borne pathogens, meaning illnesses that are parasitical. But you can't live long-term like that. It has to go

away. It can't stay with you. You go down to Mexico. You drink some bad water. You have to heal within a timeline or you die. That's it. You lay in a Mexican hospital and you're on an IV and you have to, your body has to fight and fight and fight and fight why they got you on morphine drip. You have to fight and fight until you're freed from it and then you get out of the hospital. But a lot of times you fight, fight, fight, it doesn't stop. You're still puking. You puke yourself to death in the hospital while you're on an IV and on morphine. That's a parasite.

You can't live with it long term. You can't. And so that's how it works. So, okay, so parasites and worms, I understand. And why would I know all this? I'm such a genius. It comes from the voice I hear. So, like today, have you heard the voice talk to you?

Every day. Like, do you wake up to it? In the middle of the night? Did it happen? Yeah, middle of the night, a lot of times, of course. And early in the morning, you know, four or five o'clock in the morning, I wake up and hear a spirit of compassion trying to inspire me, keep going to still do this work, to still do the next book, to still, you know, fight the good fight for the chronic

Lil. Nobody has the chronic leels back. They just don't. There's a lot of great doctors out there. there, but in the end, it's really hard to kind of really look out for the chronically ill. And then there's the, then there's the social media doctors. They're the worst because, the meaning because they don't practice. Right. I understand what you mean. Right. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. So what it is, it's like a rich kid, goes to med school, then, you know,

on mommy and daddy's money, gets out of med school or whatever, chiropractic school, whatever they choose, right? And then they don't want to practice social media, shiny flashy. They can use their credentials. They can get on social and start talking about stupid food facts, stupid, you know, chronically health, chronic health facts. No, right? I'm telling if I'm wrong. There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Okay, okay. They don't want to go into the trenches, right? Yep. I, yes. You know, they don't want to go and hear people like whining and crying. They don't want to sit in an office all day long and say, okay, Mrs. Ferguson, come on in. I got your chart right here. Okay, your shoulder hurts still.

Did you try that drug I gave you? Or, you know, did you try that, that turmeric I gave you? Now, because every MD is using turmeric. It's like they don't want to do this. It's mucky, dirty business. They don't want their hands dirty. The social media doctor is such a letdown. Absolute disgusting letdown. Yeah. That's a business in itself. And I'm not talking about some of the social doctors that had 20 years in the trenches. No, I know. You're talking about, you know what I mean. I'm not talking about. Let's clear that slate now. No, but I understand. Like, I think it's a whole, I think it's a business.

I have a lot of people who come on the show. They don't practice anymore because they're focusing on their media and fame and all the other stuff or that stuff. And they're not really, they're not in the trenches or, like you said, doing the work, the actual work. But the medical meaning books are the trenches. Their stories are there. What they've gone through. Somebody literally in the thicket of hell and what their symptoms are like and then coming out of that. And besides, I spent 30 years.

in the trenches. I helped people one-on-one. I was going to ask you, hundreds of thousands. Did you do one-on-one? One-on-ones, two offices for decades. I was in the trenches trying to help people. I worked hand-in-hand with doctors and difficult cases. So it's not like I woke up one morning and said, I want to be a medical medium. That sounds like a great idea. Let me open a social media account. No way. I mean, I just did an event at Cafe Gratitude just now where we had, you know, we sold out dinner. It was a book-signing event. And someone walked up to me, and it was a client from like the earlier 2000s, and it was unbelievable. It was an old client from the earlier 2000s.

And I haven't, in the last 10 years, I haven't worked with anybody one-on-one. You know, I haven't been, I haven't done that. And but before that, it was day in and day out. It was six in the morning till midnight, you know, six in the morning till two in the morning, like meaning all the way around seven days a week, didn't take any time off. I did this for year after year after year after year. I was in the trenches. I know what chronic illness is.

But you get these kids. They go to med school. Mommy daddy pays for it. They come out. They want to just do so-sh. They don't even want to understand it. And then they want to sell products, shit products, to the chronically sick. It's disgusting.

And so you... Now you know why people hate me? Yeah, no, no. I'm getting a good idea. You either love me. I know. You either love me. People do love you.

In fact, actually, I told you this a long time ago, maybe, but years ago when you first came on, people told me some crazy stories about you because I was like, who is this guy? He sounds kind of like kind of a wacko, right? Like some spirits talking to him. And like people like who were pretty legit were like you've no idea. Like I have to tell you like this actually happened and that actually happened and this is actually what happened. I'm like, really? Like I was like, okay, maybe I should be a little bit more open minded. And then you said a couple things to me. And you reached out to me. Yeah. Many times. You were not so easy to get. No, I was like, I don't want to go on there. I don't feel like going on. Yeah, you don't like to do a lot. I could do the

circuit. I mean, I have a big enough platform where people are like, get that guy on. We get asked every day, right? It comes into our media page on my website. Can you do this, you know, podcast? Do this podcast. And I just, you know, over time, I just pick the ones that I feel like doing and that's it. But I'm glad. I'm so honored that you came on my podcast. I'm honored you had me on, okay? I love this. I think you're so fascinating because I actually am a I'm a believer that there's something more to our world or our universe and just what we see, you know, face on, right? Like, and so...

Look, I don't try to dress up like a guru. I don't try to wear, you know, clothes and fancy necklaces. I'm not doing this all day long. I mean, I hear a voice. I mean, if anybody has a right to, like, throw a gown on and do this and just be like this 24-7 and let my hair out and act like I'm Jesus Christ, I might have somewhat of a right a degree to actually act like it. But no, you know, I hear a voice and I try to just be, you know, as cool as I can and as normal as I can, if that's what you call it. Yeah.

If I try to be as normal as I can. Normal as you can. Yeah, yeah, right. I love that. But what I'm saying is I hear a voice. There's people in spiritual retreats all the time. They're like, oh my God, like talking about the universe and everything else and everything spiritual. I hear a voice since age four. Like millions have healed because of it. And I'm like walking around like, da-da-da-da-da. Like, what? Jennifer, you want me on? Oh, yeah, sure. Okay, I'll be there. I love that. What does the voice sound like, first of all? And do they know your name? Do they say, hey, Anthony, you know, here I am again today on, you know. I told the voice, stop saying my name. So what they say? Long time ago, stop saying my name. What do you hear? I tell the voice say AW, and the voice doesn't call me AW. But I, but I, but I, I tell the voice that I hear. Is it a boy voice or a girl voice? It's an actual voice. I hear. And it's not in my head. I wish it was.

Wait, it's not in your head? I wish it was. Where is it? It's on the outside. You actually hear a voice. It's on the outside. So I could block it, and I hear it mostly in the right ear. Do hear, is it a boy voice, a man voice?

It's a man's voice, yeah. And let me ask you a question, how acting. I mean, and listen, it's a man's voice because maybe that's what I needed it to be. Right. You know, for it to work. Right. On me. Right.

For me to be like, I will dedicate my life to doing this, you know. And the big turnaround for me, the big turnaround was when I was young and my dog was drowning and drowning in a very cold, deep river. And I jumped in and the voice I heard, Spirit of Compassion, said, if you go any further, you're done. That's it. You're gone. Right.

And I was like, you know, not going to swear too much on this episode. It's okay. I was like, screw you. You know, I dedicated my way. you want me to dedicate my life to this. I've already worked on so many people and worked with so many people. I'm already spreading the information. I was much younger.

And I was like, I was like, I need my dog. I can't let my dog drown. It's, you know, you should be able to help me with this, you know? And I dove in, and it was basically suicide. And I got way out there, and my dog went down. And it was the scariest thing, but I knew. And, you know, when I got out there, I was starting to numb up, and I knew there's no turning back.

I was already too numb. it was that cold. It was like 30 degrees kind of water. And then I went down, saw my dog in an angel's arms, and I reached over. The angel handed my dog over. I grabbed the collar on my dog and my dog August. And I pulled the dog up and I got to the surface. And then it was the second time I saw spirit of compassion ever, the second time. Because I only saw spirit of compassion once when I was four years old. And then I got to the surface of the water and Spirit of Compassion was on top of the water, just standing there and said that basically that angel is not going to wait for you. You only have a few seconds to get back. Because it wasn't Spirit of Compassion that was

saving me and my dog. It was an angel that did it. SOC wasn't saving my life. S.O.C. was telling me, you basically got, you were given this gift. An angel heard you. your cry. You got just a few seconds to get back. And I dragged my dog through that deep water, got to the shore, crawled on the shore, and survived. You know, with the dog or without the dog, with the dog. It was in that, and then I told spirit of compassion, I'm yours. That's it. I'm going to dedicate my entire existence. Hell or high water, problems, censorship, like I deal with all the time. I'm the only one censored on X right now. I mean, that's that I believe anyway, because unless someone else knows they're censored on X, but I'm still, I'm censored on X.

Like, like, what? I'm shocked. I thought that for sure, like, Elon Musk would, like, love you. Yeah, you know, I don't know him personally. I don't know him personally. So, but, yeah, I'm censored on X. It's ridiculous. So Twitter censored me a long time ago.

I was rising up on Twitter real fast. Yeah, he was, yeah, I would imagine. I was, like, I was cruising on Twitter. Yeah, I would imagine. And then somebody in Twitter, Twitter just said, censor this guy, right? And that's what they did. And then when Elon opened up the floodgate, nobody's censored anymore, you know? Yeah, exactly.

You know, bring Donald Trump back on, you know. No one censored, whatever it was, I stayed censored. Still censored on X. It's unbelievable. Why? Who knows? Maybe it's just the way the system was set and there's not an engineer talking to me to say, look, let's unglitch this.

Twitter glitched you. Let's unglitch it, you know, but I don't know any engineers on Twitter to actually take their time and be like, let's actually try to fix this for you. You know what I mean? That's just how it works. What's interesting is besides the blood, I mean, most of the stuff that you provide, though, is not hard.

I mean, people I guess would say some of the things are harmful if you don't have a medical degree. Well, you know what it is if they don't study the information, they don't really look at the information properly. They don't read it. They don't take their time. They're never going to really understand it. So they're going to take like somebody else's, that medical medium said, do this.

And they, and, you know, people run with. it, you know. But how, in your experience, what's the accuracy rate that you've had? Do you know? Have you ever thought about the accuracy rate? I mean, the amount of people healed, the track record is insane. Right. I mean, insane. But have you ever, has the spirit of compassion ever been wrong that you've remembered? I mean, I'm wrong, but spirit of compassion isn't. What have you been wrong about? I got my own thoughts. I got my own, you know, I don't put them in the book. I don't put it. It's all SOC

of the book. So all that information is only SEC. I can't put my opinion in the book. I can't be like my separate self, you know. You can't. Well, what if jumping in an ice tub of ice is a good thing for you? You know, ice

plunging, cold plunging, whatever you want to call it, maybe it is good for you. Like, you know what I mean? Like innocently saying that and then SOC will be like it's not. You know, if you've got chronic illness, if you got a sensitive central nervous system, you can't be sitting in that, you know, that cold water. You will, your immune system will drop, right?

And so, and by the way, I talked about that. And then some of the influencers are like, yeah, you know, if you're a woman, you know, that's my information. If you're a woman, you might not want to do the cold blunging because it might not be good for you. You're different than men. That's medical meme information. You know, people follow all my info and everything. And so they take that.

But, you know, but me, I could be like, wake up one morning as. Anthony William and be like, yeah, maybe I should cold punch. Maybe it's the smart thing to do. Maybe it is good for you. And then SFC says no. And so in the books, it's all SOC. My own personal life, yeah, I could walk down the sidewalk and make my own choice and try to go this way and trip on a curve and be like, oh, fuck, I just fell.

You know, I have my own free will. It wasn't taken from me. Right. But when it comes down to the hardcore stuff, get healing, moving forward, people healing. chronically ill healing recovering yeah you know i'm going to listen to s oc i'm going to get those words and i'm going to make sure they're in the books right and i'm going to make sure it's done right but me sure i can wake up the more and be like let me drink this old coconut water that's been out for three days and be like oh it's fermented you know because i got my own my own opinion my own

opinion my own free will i can do what i want to do to a degree but s oc it's different you know like fermented food. People think it's good for you. It's not good for you. I would have thought it's amazing for you. Me personally would have thought it's, it's incredible, it's ancient, fermented foods got to be good for you, got to be good for your gut. And SOC says, no, it's dead. It's not, it's death. It's not good for your gut. Any kind of, you know, like any kind of micro-organism within fermented food is for death. That means if a body dies and starts decaying, like even a piece of meat, piece of flesh, stick it outside on the ground. And the microorganisms are death-based ones. So if you ferment meat, it's death-based ones. That's not living ones,

you see. Fermented food is not good for you. That's SOC's information. I've published it. I put it in the books. And by the way, I do have some credentials. I'm a number one New York Times best-selling author. Multiple, right? Multiple. And just so you know, yeah, led the way in my publisher for many years. How many books have you sold? And a lot of books sold around the world. Because I know you do like business stuff and all that stuff too. You know? I'd like to know

these things. It's in the millions and millions. How many? We want numbers. How many? How many have you sold? Like 10 million books? Ten million books? Five million books. Two million books? One million. 20 million books? 30 million books. It's a lot. It's just a lot. But the bottom line is

and guess what? People are going to ask. A 30 million books, would you say? A lot of million books. And check this out. Check this out, okay? Yeah. It's rare. And guess what? Yeah. Done without advertising campaigns, no promotional companies, no PR firms, nothing. And no of the whole thing where there's the services, you're an author and you got money, you can buy a $500,000 program and they'll ship out all your books, they'll do your books, and they'll get you in NYT, right? None of that. All integrity, clean. Nobody knows the biz out there. I know the business. You know the business. Trust me. I know the business. All of it is organic. All of it is really,

really grassroots. Why? Because I'm a nice guy? Because people like me? No, no. Because people freaking healed and got their lives back. People that were really sick. Because you're not going to a guy called the medical medium to fix your problems. You're going to go to your freaking doctor. But you come to these books because you're on your last, you know, thing, and you realize this was the answer and you heal. And that's why there's that many books that were sold out there in the world. No, it's true. Finally enough, I mean, most people don't understand the black, like the, the business behind the business, which is a total racket. And I'm sorry to tell everybody, okay, every health book in the future that you buy out there, not mine, but every health book

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Sounds like I got a big ego today. No, it's okay. It's okay. I think it's endearing. What is the one thing that people should be doing for their health every day that they're not? Yeah. You didn't answer the question. Yeah, they got to keep the fats low.

That's one thing that's critical. Fats. Everybody's fatting themselves to death. I'm not talking about, like, people gaining weight and obesity. I'm not talking about that. What are you talking about? Everybody's fatting themselves to death because every meal has fat in it. Oh, okay.

It's just overt fat everywhere. They're burdening their liver down. They're beating their liver down. They're tiring it out. They're thickening up their bloodstream so their immune system can't fight the fight because all that fat gets in the way. They're getting insulin resistance because they got so much fat in their bloodstream. They're just like fataholics.

Throw some salt in there. Now they're salt fataholics. So we should be saying away, are you a proponent for animal protein then or not? Yeah. Yeah, animal protein and plant base. Both. So, medical meaty info is for both.

So then you can do, you can do animal protein. You can do protein, by the way, protein based. Yeah. You're welcome. Protein base? No, not familiar protein base, animal based, right? Protein based, yes, yes, yes. You know, they used to just say meat eater.

Yeah, but now there's so many other ways you can eat protein. Animal base is what they say. Yeah, animal base is what they say. Yeah, animal base, well. You're welcome. Yeah. Oh, you say that. Now, is that because of you?

Yeah. And now they've all taken it. They've all taken it. So animal-based, because plant-based, and it was meat-eater. You're a plant-based and meat-eater. That's it. So you believe in both? Yeah, yeah.

But you're saying not to eat fat, but then are you talking like salmon has a lot of fat, almond butter has a lot of fat? What are you saying to lip-me? You're chronically sick. You keep on doing the high fats like that. You're just going to go. So what should we be eating every day? You've got to keep it down.

You've got to lower it. You can be on animal protein, but you've got to kind of like get it in check. You've got to do it at the end of the day, maybe one. a day. You can be plant-based and doing lots of avocado. Maybe do it at the end of the day or something, or some avocado. You can be plant-based. You want to do some nuts and seeds. Maybe do it at the end of the day or every three days. Same thing with animal protein. Maybe if you're really sick, you do animal protein every three days, right? Because it's fat. It's animal fat. That's your animal protein. So wait, wait. Okay, I have a question for you. I got a bunch,

but how about vitamin D? Everyone's like, you know, there's all these things that people say you must be doing like vitamin D every day, creatine every day. You know, I totally destroyed the whole 50,000 I use a vitamin D thing. No, I did not know this. Yeah, you don't even hear it's like it's crickets now. Okay, tell me. What did you say? I said don't do 50 fucking thousand I use a vitamin D because it's not a good idea. Vitamin D is fine. I thought it's 5,000. No, no. They're just, they've been pumping 50,000 for years, you know, 30,000, the whole bit for years. It was the big thing for like a decade. Now it's like, crick, it's like 50,000 I use, trip, trip, trip. It's no one says it anymore. That's because I really got that one cleaned up. So don't be having the vitamin D

every day. No, you can have it every day, but keep it down to a thousand, you know. Was that kind of overrated also? Overrated, totally overrated. You can take all the vitamin D you want and still be bedridden, still be chronically sick. It's a good thing to do, but you can still be sick. You can still lose your life. You can still die of chronic illness. Mystery chronic illness. You You can take all the vitamin D you want. But yeah, it's fine to do. I'm not anti-vitamin D. I think it's fine.

It's just, it's overrated. It's one of those things that doesn't fix the problem. What about omega-3s every day? What about, is there any supplement that is necessary? Plantase of mega-3s, you know, that's a great thing. Mega-3 still isn't the big fix-all either. You know, you can be somebody that you take all the mega-3s you want. You can still have fibro neurological lime.

You can be sick for 30 years, have multiple. sclerosis. You can have tinkles, numbness, aches, and pains and dizziness all the time. You can have jaw pain and brain fog and migraines and take all the omega-3 you want and you ain't coming out of it. Okay, so that, okay, so is there any particular supplement that you think is a must, or do you think, what do you think, is there anything we should be doing every day? B-12 is critical. I'm just giving you one. Okay, there's a bunch. B-12. B-12 is critical. Okay, what about the sauna? We talked about the... Just you know, there's an anti-B-12 thing right now, you know, starting up, you know, you're like, you don't need your B-12. You

You can get it from your food and all that. Meat eaters are desperate for B-12. Meat eaters, they can't get it from their food. They can't. Plant-based people, they can't get enough from their food. You do have to supplement it in the world we're in. That's be the right B-12, but you have to supplement it in the world we're in. So everyone should be taking B-12?

Everybody should be on B-12. Okay, because-ethicabolamin, adenosilcabolamin. Everybody should be on that blend. What does it do? It's for the nervous system. It's for every cell in the body. the brain. It's critical. If you got chronic illness and you're not on the right B12, like a good B12, you're losing out. You're losing out. Like it's the one thing that you can see

a result really, really, really fast with is B12. Like if you're somebody that's been bedridden for a while and you're not on B12 and you start taking a good high dose of it, you can start all of a sudden being like, oh my God, I can move my shoulder. You've got a way to recover, But I could move and I could think a little bit. Like it's unbelievable what happens. Yeah, B12 is that important. Wow. And right now there's like whatever's left at the plant-based movement

because the animal-based movement crushed it, there's nothing left of it. It's really sad. There's barely anything left of the vegan movement, plant-based movement. And I was never just on that side. My books are medical medium. Be a vegan. Medical medium.

Plant-based is your only hope, right? I was never that. was always like on both sides of the aisle where you want to do meat let's do it right you want to do chicken let's do it right let's heal but use all the medical medium tools why you're doing your meat but what happened is the animal based world which they call animal base now because of m m term it's it's crushing the plant base movement and the youth the young people in their 20s you know teens and 20s early 30s are not even going plant based they're just going all they're just staying all animal, right? That's the movement and where it's going. Well, because everything now is about

protein, protein, protein, and muscle and protein and longevity. And the biohacking, what's your take on the whole biohacking phenomenon, the longevity space? Sure, sure. The biohacking phenomenon is a death trap for somebody who's chronically ill. It's just for guys that didn't get sick yet. You know, they didn't get sick. They didn't have enough exposures. They don't have enough viruses. They don't have enough metals. They were born into this world with less heavy metals because their parents had less heavy metals. So they're, you know, maybe they weren't injured by a vaccine. Maybe they're whatever it was. They, they're in a place that's okay enough, right? Yeah. Where they're just, they got the athletic thing going on. They're not sick yet.

And they can do the biohacking thing. They can hop in a nice bath. They can go and do this. They can go try it. They can put some diodes on their head. They can take whatever they're taking, right? And they can play the game of I'm the longevity guy I'm a longevity I'm going to live to be 150 that's my goal here I'm trying this and trying this get a lot of likes and clicks and you know they can play that game sure but if they were chronically sick and they were doing what they were doing bye see you later really yeah do you think that the sauna though is one biohacking infrared son has always been great it's I was going to say that's not a biohack that's not a biohack.

But it's something... There's biohack. That's just a wellness thing. It's a wellness thing. It's been around since infrared started. For 100 years. I understand. But you think that's...

The spiritual of compassion likes that one too, right? Well, properly. Don't go in there and cook yourself if you're somebody that's sensitive. Don't go over... Go in there and set it for 45 minutes at the highest heat. Yeah, you'll be sick. You'll get yourself really sick. You can hurt yourself with an infrared sauna.

Badly. But yeah. You've got chronic illness, you got neurological problems, you've got weaknesses, immune system compromises. Go in there for 10 minutes with a little bit of heat on. Don't go in there and bake yourself like a clam. No, there are people who actually don't think the infrared is hot enough. So now it's up to 220, those ones, like the real finish ones.

That's where we go into now biohacking bullshit. Yeah, that's the level of biohacking bullshit. What do you think of those? Not good. Terrible. Terrible. Because you'll have this guy who's got a lot of muscle, didn't get sick, yet. Maybe he's in his late 20s. He's going to go there and push the temp real high. And then he gets

some petite girl that's got like migraines. She's got like a vagaries. She's got like a vagus nerve problem, right? Low immune system. Had a bunch of blood pulled out of her. She's going to go in there. I really like this guy who's, you know, such a strong biohacker. And maybe he's got the answers. Let me go in there. Right. So it's not right for everybody. It's just not right. Okay. So I, that's what, I mean, that's Okay, I understand. Okay, I've got to ask you some stuff from this book because I wrote some, I mean, we can talk all day. I know. We can talk all day. I can't, I mean, we can't stretch the surface of medical medium information. No, listen, there's, there's so much. But just because it was this book that kind of instigated you being back on the show, I wanted to talk to you about a few foods, okay? Because I thought. All right, all right, but I can't remember every word in that book from SOS. It's got 200,000 words. Mangoes. Can you talk about mangoes? Do you remember? They're so good for people.

Do you remember anything? I'm going to read this. I want to read this, okay? Yeah. Mangoes are life-changing when it comes to our emotional health. Not only do they... The glucose to the brain from mangoes is a big deal. This is a big one, right?

Not only they uplift your mood, they can alleviate depression and several effective, seasonal affective disorders. Absolutely. They're especially healing for anyone who feels abandoned, cut off, forsaken, an outcast, or shunned, detached, lonely, hurt, left. left out or let down. You got to love, you got to love a spirit of compassion. That's all I can say.

Yeah, this is crazy. That's just crazy. You didn't write this, the spirit of compassion wrote this? How am I going to write that? I didn't, I barely got out of high school. I don't have a college education. Well, how did I don't use AI. It's word for word from spirit of compassion.

These are highly intelligent medical books. It's medical medium science. This is, okay, so it says, when we eat them, the fruit, the fruit, I can't even say without my glasses, but the fruit reorange, reorientates us, changing our direction and opening us up to more opportunities to experience joy, which ultimately helps us connect to our destiny. All from a mango? Is that true? Yeah, yeah. Not from a piece of mango. Not from a supplement that has a speck a mango in it. How about dry mango? Okay, this is what I'm trying to say. And that's the confusion here, right? There's these,

like, dumb fruit and vegetable compilations out there that are like supplements, but you're getting, and there's also dumb herbal ones too, and there's like a speck of something, like a speck of burdock root, a speck of mango, right? No, I'm talking about a real mango. Check this out, right? And they do these compilations and these pills, you don't get anything from that. You can't get anything from a speck of anything, but check this out. The mango, you're talking about eating a mango.

You're talking about not just one, and you're not doing a mango on top of a, you know, a cheesecake, you know, I'm not talking about mixing those. if you if you learn how to eat to heal like truly eat and heal right way and you do mangoes on the right way miracles happen and that's the stuff you're reading right there really unbelievable you eat a mango before bed you sleep better you like the miracles that happen i love well the reason why i stuck on the mango was because i'm obsessed with the mango i eat like a bag of dried mangoes a night i love them um like real dried fruits a little it's the real thing it's just i don't It's not no added sugar.

It's just the mango that was dehydrated like that. I know. You got to be careful, though. You got to try not do too much of that. I love it, though. You know, the dried fruits are like this. You got to be kind of careful. Dates are different.

Okay, tell me. They don't really dry them too often. They let them naturally dry. Okay. It's a different process. You know, they come kind of, they're kind of moist, wet, juicy. When you come off a tree, you eat a date, it's like juicy. It's like the juice will run down your hands.

It's actually bizarre. You go to the store. There's no juice in a little. you open them up, right? Yeah, they're still better. They're still better. But when you go to dried fruits, dried mango can be okay.

You just can't eat a ton of it because it takes longer to break it down in its dried state. So now you've got a big hunk of mango sitting in your gut. It's not breaking down as fast as it needs to. So you've got to pace yourself. I can't.

Chew it good. Chew it good. Make sure it really breaks down in your mouth enough and then you're okay with dried mango. And make sure there's no sulfur. Yeah, no sulfur. But so you don't get the same benefits. with the dried mango as a regular mango that has...

You get some. But not... But how does it help your emotional state? Like, what does it do to your brain? Is it because of the high sugar? There's something called the emotional centers of the brain. I wrote about that from SFC and the Brain Savor books. Okay, yep.

Unbelievable books, the Brain Saber Books. Talk about what's in that. My God, it's all about metals in the brain, how they become alloys. So people don't realize that... That's the one we talked about. When you're under stress, your brain heats up, and when your brain heats up, it can actually... because microscopic levels, like septo and octo of metal,

it can actually transform in your brain and shift and shape shift in your brain. You got mercury, you got aluminum, you've got copper in your brain. It can actually meld together, creating an alloy, a toxic heavy metal alloy in the brain, right? And heating of the brain from your electrical impulses and stress, somebody pisses you off, they text you, somebody, you get some problem,

breaking up in a relationship, maybe you're an abusive relationship. Maybe you're just miserable and you're under so much stress. Your brain's constantly under fire, electrical impulses or heating everything up. And then you've got all these different components of mercury, aluminum, copper, lead. And then all of a sudden, that stuff just starts to meld together because it can melt together under that kind of heat because it's so microscopic the metal. It's malleable at a low temp. And I talk all about it in Brainsaver, right? And these alloys, make it so now your OCD is worse than ever. How many people got OCD out there? Tons. Probably me. Suffering from OCD, like real bad OCD, the kind where you can't even like, you can't even get out of a room.

You can't even get out of a room, right? You can't open up the refrigerator, that kind of OCD because when you close your refrigerator, you think you close it a thousand times. Or the OCD that a lot of people freak out about where it's not really that. It's not about light switches and like stoves. I'm like, dude, it's a lot about stoves and, like, switches and door locks. It is. But it's also, there's so many varieties of OCD about thoughts and repeating thought. I could go on forever for OCD. I just don't want the OCD police going after me.

No, no, no, no. He doesn't understand OCD. Hate them, hate them. That's right. But while you're talking about OCD, can you tell us what someone can do who is, if they are listening. Getting the metals out. Getting heavy metals.

OCD is the repetitive, is the repetitive hitting. of an electrical impulse going through neurons and slamming into a pocket of metal and then going back the other way it can't go through it hits and goes back

the other way and when it goes back the other way another electrical impulse with the same thought the same thought is you know I want to kill myself or some other thought somebody has that's just taking over and there we go

that electrical impulse has that thought in it and it comes down and it slams into the other electrical impulse they hit together and then another one comes down and they hit together but they can't push through because they're hitting a pocket of alloy or mercury or a pocket of metal and they're hitting this and that's OCD.

Finally you go into this fever heat you go into this healing crisis and at 2 o'clock in the morning all of a sudden your body shuts down your brain shuts down and you go to sleep you shut down because eventually that electric Impulse how to find a new route. You wake up in the morning, it starts all over again or later

on that day. That's OCD, right? That's information that's so advanced. Nobody can touch that information. I'm proud of it. It's SOC's information. I can never come up with any of that, but it's life-saving because then you learn how to take the metals out. How do you take the metals out? The right kind of heavy metal detox, not the bullshit out there. Okay. The right kind that works. And we got a track record of so many people getting their lives back. That's the difference right there. Okay, tell me what the rite, not chelation? Is that the kind? You got to have five ingredients. They've got to be working hand in hand together or throughout the day. You got to have a spirulina, a good spirulina. You got to have a barley grass juice powder, not a barley grass, a barley grass juice powder.

Got to have a cilantro. You got to have dulse, Lantic Coast seaweed, sea vegetable, dulse, and you got to have wild blueberries. Got have those five. It has to be throughout the day, or it has to be all in one thing, or in a bowl or something with, other fruits, but you've got to have that. Check out medical medium information, learn how to get the metals out, get rid of your OCD, get rid of your depersonalization, your bipolar diagnosis, get rid of your suffering, get the metals out of your brain. And just so you know, metals being the cause of all those things, are original medical medium information. And that's the other incredible thing all in its own. I don't want anybody thinking of, oh, that information must have been out there since he's talking about it. No, it is our information, SOC's information.

How often is someone to be drinking this concoction? Every day. Or a couple times a week or every other day. Whatever they can do, maybe make it smaller if you don't want to make it bigger, but just you've got to start and move your life forward. Millions have, and they've gotten their lives back. I didn't get this far because of PR campaigns and bullshit book scams and all kinds of stuff that they're all doing. I got this far from putting this information and people healing with this information out there. Okay, I have one for you because I know this is something that's very hot right now is, yeah, ADHD, ADD. Is there any kind of diet, is there any type of things? Such an easy one to

fix. Yeah, how do you fix ADHD? So just the heavy metal detox, the medical meme heavy metal detox. Such an easy one to fix. That one's just the same one as the OCD. So, so ridiculous, easy. Throw in some celery juice properly done. You got to look up medical meme information. but throw in some celery juice, heavy metal detox in there, learn about maybe the medical medium morning cleanse where you're keeping the fats out away from the morning and do some lemon water in the morning, ADHD, kiss it goodbye, see you later, alligator, such an easy one.

And that's the whole point is you're not allowed to heal that many people, and we've done that, and that's why I'm still censored in places, and that's why people do hate me because they don't understand the low. loyalty, the amount of people that have healed, the people that speak good about medical, they just can't put their finger on it. I'm not an MD. They don't understand it. The social media, like the social media doctors that never practiced before, they get on social. They just talk shit. They don't get it. Meanwhile, they never got one person better in their whole career. It's information that changes lives. Bottom line.

Basically, let's say people are drinking this concoction for ADD, right? And, including cellaragers. How long does it take to see some type of... It could be days for a lot of people. The brain fog starts to lift. It could be, and then all of a sudden the brain fog's lifting now ADD, ADHD is starting to lift. You know, it could be a couple of months. Somebody could have so much metal in there where there, it's not just ADHD. It's ADHD plus some bipolar, plus some mania, plus a little bit of schizo. Like, you know, it's get to brainia. It could be everything. And then you start knocking them one at a time. Like, but depersonalization's better.

Schizophrenia is getting better. Hey, my ADHD just got better. Like, you know, my OCD is getting better. And it all depends, but you chip away because this world's death by a thousand cuts. And there's so many traps and sneers and potholes out there for everybody right now. And it's a game right now.

The help movement is such a game. It's actually sickening. But, you know, just got to put your big boy pants on and take it one day at a time. So do you don't believe in killation? Is that the thing that's called when they pull it out of you? Yeah. Until the medical medium information changed the term, it's called Heavy Metal Detox.

That's MM, starting from the start. They never called Heavy Metal Detox, Heavy Metal Detox. That's MM Info. And it's worldwide now. That's my term. It started so many years ago. They used to call just chelation, chelation, and they usually just did it for lead. That's it.

They did it for lead for children that ate paint chips. That's all that was. It was filation for lead for paint chips for children. Medical medium heavy metal detox is the term. Yep. And I've been doing that stuff and getting out there for 40 years. That's right.

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Try to grow a mulberry tree. Get yourself a mulberry tree. Did you plant one here? No. You got a mulberry tree. Yeah, plant one here, get some mulberries growing, go out there and pick some mulberries, you know. Really? Yeah.

Why? Before you go out to your appointments and go out to go do this. Really? When you go out and do that, for you hop on your treadmill, before you start doing your work, go outside and then do it. For you shop online for different clothes, go outside and pick some mulberries. Why? Because they're loaded with the antiox. that make a difference. They got traced minerals in them that are critical. The roots go deep

into the earth. The other one is wild blueberries. Get some wild blueberries. I eat tons of berries. Wild blueberries? No. Berries suck. Wild blueberries? That's the key. Berries are great. They don't suck that bad. They just don't move the needle entirely. They don't do what a wild blueberry and a mulberry can do, especially a wild blueberry. Whoa, those are a whole other thing, too, because they're removing so many metals from the brain. It's just such a great thing. Really? So let's say I had a smoothie every day with just wild blueberries.

Don't put almond butter in there and coconut oil and cacao. No, no. The cacao in there and the chocolate in there. No. Don't destroy your smoothie. Do something like clean and pure. Like what? Tell me what to do. There's some wild blueberries in there.

Maybe if you want a couple of bananas in there. Throw... Procume powder? Protein powder? Could I do that? Crappy natural flavor crap and everything else. What if it's a good protein powder? What's a good protein powder?

I love Momentus. Have you tried it? What's on the ingredient list? I can show it you. They're third-party tested. They're NSF certified. Yeah. They are supposed to be one of the cleanest ones out there.

But we don't do anything with straight protein. No, but you put it in a smoothie or yogurt or whatever. No, I mean, straight protein doesn't do anything for the body. Like, if you just isolated protein and had somebody on that as a diet for about three months, they would look like a Holocaust victim. That's probably true. It is true. So, you know, what happens is that protein isn't like the answer.

That whole protein thing is a whole other problem on its own. So I just made 10 more friends. Or did I just lose 10 more friends? I just lost a lot of friends. It's fantastic. You lost a lot of friends. You know what? I still have to say, you know what, though, those friends five years down the road will

start hearing it every day that protein isn't what we thought it was. I just had a whole podcast about this. Protein has been so, it's like, it's like the trend right now. It's all about protein. Are people just over protein themselves? I talked about it 10 years ago in the medical medium books before anybody even uttered it. Yeah, I mean, people are just over protein themselves. Protein isn't the answer to really fix anything.

It doesn't fix chronic illness. You get sick or have a symptom, protein makes it worse. It just makes it worse. Why? Whether it's plant protein, like whether it's beans and just all bean protein, whether it's just all and only pea protein, whether it's just animal protein, if you're focused on just protein only and you're sick, you're going to get sicker.

Why? Because there's no real glucose. There's no living water. There's no trace minerals. There's the things that actually heal you. They're the things that you need to recover your central nervous system, your vagus nerves.

You sit there like messing with protein all the time when you get sick. That's another trap. You're just going to go down the road, you know? But what you do, you've got proteins naturally in everything. Anyway, the mango has protein in it. Spinage has protein in it. All the leafy greens. Arugula has protein in it. You know, you can

get protein virtually everywhere in anything. You don't need to do the powders and hammer on like isolated factory-made protein. I don't care of its third-party tested. All right. I think I tortured you enough on this episode. Wait a second. I've got one more question about. You're going to need like Dr. Spock I know. But you just give you a mind meld of some kind and get you. back into the trends and the biohags. No, but you says, oh, yeah, this is what I wanted to ask for the food. Which, there's all this controversy over spinach, tomatoes.

Yeah, I pretty much, I pretty much cleaned up the controversy on tomatoes pretty much. Like, people in the health movement never even went near a tomato because of nightshades. Yeah. I pretty much destroyed that. How? How? How are eating tomatoes again by publishing all the information about how- So tomatoes are good for you again.

Oh, amazing for you. What, it's just an incredible food for you. How about spinach? Oh, it's so good for you. Raw. Yeah, but you know, raw spinach is so good. There's a medical medium spinach soup. People swear by it helps them, gets their brain back, gets electrolytes to their brain,

trace mineral salts to their brain. Spinnage soup is beautiful, but cooked spinach isn't my favorite. It's raw spinach. That's the key. You get all the people to worry wards about, you know, oxylic acid, oxalates, all that stuff. It's just they've been given misinformation, and that's the problem, you know. Between that and pearl powder and collagen crap and clostrum, which is by,

bullshit and doesn't fix anybody. They're just taking it from the baby, baby calves. All of that is just doesn't work, you know, and people are just stuck in all these traps, and that's one of them. Wow. Okay. So I can ask you a bazillion question. So from what I got for this. That's why the most powerful people in the world, except for Elon Musk, reached out to me and like, I need to ask you like 50 questions. And I'm on the phone for like ever. Tell Elon right here. What's the next one? What's the next one? What's the next one? They're like, my mind's blown. I can't believe this. Well, we can send this deal on us. So say, you want to be back on X and he should uncensory you.

I want it working. I'm on X. It's just not working. Okay. Well, there you go. Maybe he'll hear it. And maybe he'll take off the glitch that Twitter once put on many years ago. Maybe.

Where they just stopped it. They just stopped it from working. Stranger things have happened. You have a spirit talking to you every day. I think that if that can happen every day, then maybe Elon can help you. You never know. You never know. But so far, mulberry tree.

And everyone should have a mulberry tree. Yeah, they should. We talked about ACD. It should be on wild blueberries. Wow. Oh, wild blueberries every day. Not the blueberries of the pint-sized clamshell, you know, plastic container where it's just an organic blueberry. How about frozen wild blueberries?

Yeah, of course. That's the way to get out. That's what, okay. Frozen wild blueberries. Do you know what's really weird or funny is that, like, you became like super well-known because of- I'm a household name. Because of celery juice. Yeah, well.

Well, no, no. I'm also a household name from people healing around the world. Well, but the mainst-heavy-metal detox. That actually... Heavy metal detox. It's a big one. Isn't that, like, was celery juice, does that what the claim was that celery juice was... Well, you know...

Well, here's the problem with celery juice, okay? Yeah. So here's the problem, right? Yeah. The problem is before the health industry turned into a total money-making, like, marketing machine where it's a doggy dog world, like I was explaining before. Before that happened, everybody was like, yeah, celery juice, it's healing me. And then every single supermodel and every single influencer,

I decided to wake up one morning and say, I'm going to bank and I'm going to sell my own shit. And then they're like, I'm not talking about the celery juice no more because no one makes a penny off of it. Barely the farms do. But you can't keep celery in stores. There's like thousands of new farms. It's the number one freaking herb selling. It is a worldwide phenomenon and people are drinking it every day, but you don't hear a peep. Because if you start squealing about it, it brings me up and no one's being paid.

You know what I mean? Right, right, right. They're not being paid for talking about me, you know? Right. So no one's, you know, that's one reason. The other reason is nobody can make money. They can't bank off of it. Well, yeah, but there's a million companies making salary juice, though.

Yeah, but it's not a big banker. Yeah, it's not a big margin. There's not a big, like, you can't rule. It's just people make it at home. Yeah, they make it. And it's also, you have all these rules around it, right? Like, you can't make it. What is it?

Like, you can't have it. Don't put lemon in there. You can if you want. You could put lemon in there if you want, if you're not going to drink it otherwise. If you're somebody that's headstrong, you could put lemon in there. If you're somebody that's headstrong, put apple in there. If somebody that's in like the flavor, put some apple in there. You can do that.

But it had to be fresh or 24 hours. I remember all these, like, rules around it. You want to drink it fresh, you know, and you want to strain it after you juice it. You want to drink it pretty soon. But not just that you want to drink enough of it. You don't want to just eat celery and think you're going to fix yourself. You know, I mean, the whole thing with the dietitian thing, when celery juice exploded and I was like, like all of a sudden, everybody knew who I was, whatever. Yeah, everybody, what happened was dietitians came out.

There was like 100 media articles on me. This guy hears the voice. He's not a doctor. I remember. He's not an MD, right? Just hundreds of them everywhere. I know. And all these dietitians, they would get on there in the articles and the dietitians would be like, you really need to eat celery, juicing it doesn't give you the fire.

And you know what I mean? Like that's all you heard. It's like, okay, if you're chronically sick and you just eat it, you're not going to get better. You know what I mean? You just need to do it. You got to do it. I totally remember that. Okay, I've got a couple of business questions for you.

I have to, right? Well, because I'm curious. You don't do the circuit at all. Like, for example, I'm going to eudamonia next week. I'm speaking at this place called eutemone. It's a health summit. You have all the health people. You'd be phenomenal.

I'm sure everyone would love to see you, hear you, you know, be on a panel or do a talk, whatever. I'm asked to do a lot of those things. I'm going to say, you just not want to do it? You know, I probably would rather like watch regular TV something people don't watch and watch a bunch of reruns from like 1970s than put myself through the painstaking abuse of watching other speakers give out bad advice to a bunch of people. But you know what, though? You know what, though?

What? I mean, at the same time, I respect everybody who's doing it. Like, here's the thing. You have to understand. Like, I say these things. things only in the defense of the chronically ill. Other than, I have respect for people and in speakers and, yeah, okay, but no, I want people to know I'm not a total dick.

I actually have respect for a lot of people. Okay, wait, wait. So, like, maybe not a panel, you're right, because it would be weird for conflicting information, blah, blah, but even to, like, be like a fireside chat, like you and I would do a fireside chat somewhere. Are you never open to those things? No, I am. I am.

It's just that I'm busy actually writing real books. Yes. 200,000 word books that are literally saving people's lives. And, you know, like, these books are so fat. They're so packed. There's no fluff in them. And I sit in a chair. My exercise is sitting on a chair and doing this year after year after year.

These things are so hard to do. You know, I have to have the back of the chronic leal. If I go galivanting, I can't tell you how many times Hollywood's knocked on my door, like top producers, we can do a medical medium TV series in second slot with you. And you don't want to do it? We can throw people in front of you. You can do like your light work. We can, we can, and I'm like, I got books to write. They're like, books. Who cares about books? This is what the Hollywood producers say to me all the time. Who cares? That's just a business card, man. Who gives a shit about books? I have them like, you know what it mean? They're like, we can do TV shows 24-7 with you. You can be like the Gordon Ramsey of like,

of the health movement with what you do. You hear a voice for God's sake. And I'm like, dude. That's going to take me away for years for writing the books. And then I don't want to chase the flashy thing, but then some mornings I wake up and I'm like, spirit, I'm going to go for it. I'm calling that, I'm calling that, you know, producer back. You know what I mean? You've never explored doing like an eight-part series on Netflix or something like that. I haven't, no.

I haven't explored it at all. I've had a lot of knocks on the door. You do well. You've got five million people on Instagram following you. Well, that's not including Facebook. it's not including my other platforms. I think I'm way above 10 million. Oh, I'm sure. I don't even know how much. How many people does he have following him? Probably like 20 million. Well, on Facebook alone, probably you have a ton. No, I got a lot on Facebook. I don't think it's 10, but I got a bunch.

But yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, it's crazy. No, you have a lot. But it's not, you know what it really is too? What? It's, it's the word of mouth out there and, and everybody posting because they're healing. And the medical medium is in every feed in, in everywhere, in everywhere, and every genre, it's insane, you know, and I've been blessed because of the information actually working. If this information didn't work, I know. If it didn't work, I would be so screwed. I would be like, yeah, yeah, I'm the medical medium. Do you want to come and talk to me? Well, yeah, that's the part that's, I'm telling you, that's a little bit freaky is because, like, the truth of the matter is, you have people that you've actually legit helped because it wasn't

like, if you go online, people are like, oh, yeah, he helped me with this. He did this with me. So it's like, well, there has to be something to it if there is these people, you know, are these people, sorry, you should say. Yeah, there's a lot. So like, okay, so no TV right now. I mean, look, I might do some stuff and I might do some different forms and I might do some different talks and everything. I got stuff with Gaia. I'm working with Gaia. So you know, I'm going to do some stuff with them, you know. Yeah, but that's old school. I mean, I'm talking like. Oh, man. Come on. Don't put down old school. No, but I'm saying like, old school is cool. You should do a six part. I know. I know. I know. Netflix. Netflix or like Hulu, like a six-part series. That would just, and you would sell a 10 billion more books than you already have. I agree 100%. And you know what I like about this is that I could be your agent. No, because I think, I can do it as, you're hired.

You're hired. 10%. I know, I'm not just, 10. I want 20%. But I was going to say, I, 50%. 50%. 15%? No, not 50.

I'll take 15. All right. But I think we should tell us show. But if I go in debt by doing too much. I don't think you're going in debt. Because I use all my money to do all kinds of events for my community. If I go in debt or something or lose all my money, will you break that 50% open a little and give me some of that back? Listen, I don't know about that. All right. All right. All right. You obviously, you're doing fine, obviously, with the amount of books

you're selling. But what I would say is this, that like if you did a four to six part series on like a Netflix or a Hulu, you'd be open to a whole new audience that you never had. So all these other books, the ripple effect. But you don't want to do all the other antular things that come with it. You don't want to do the speaking gigs. You don't want to go on these tours. You don't want to probably do all those things. Yeah. But that's okay. We can work around it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think this is a good angle for you. Well, you know, I just was in Barnes & Noble. I've been turning down Barnes & Noble at book signing

there for 10 years. Yes. Why did you do it now? One reason because, you know, it would be really hard probably for them to handle the amount of people. Because I did a book signing Culver City and almost 30,000 people showed and they shut the city down. And in the city, the entire police department, entire fire department. They had to tell me to leave by three o'clock, by two o'clock or something the afternoon. It was because the city was shutting down. It couldn't even function anymore. There were 30,000 people there. And so what happens is, I mean, I could do Coliseum gigs, but I just don't, it's a lot of work, man, a lot of, like, oh my God. And

the thing is, is basically the bottom line is, if I do, like, the lecture circuit or anything like you're saying, you know, it's, I want to make sure, okay, I did the bar. the Barnes & Noble book signing, and I did a light blast for each individual at the Barnes Noble book signing, right? So each person, I asked Spirit of Compassion to, we'll do a little light work, and maybe anybody listening or watching this right now, they know about light work, and maybe they believe in the spiritual aspect of light work and healing light, and that supernatural aspect and angels and other stuff, but it was doing light work on each individual, you know. I'm not going to be able to do that other speaking engagements when I'm mixed in with a bunch

different people and do so. I can't be like, there's so many rules and regulations. I can imagine the producers in one of those forums or one of those gigs, be like, what do you want to do AW? You want to bring up the crowd and give them light work? You want to do a light blast? You know, they're not going to allow that. They're just so, so it's, I'm really in it. They will. You should be able to be a master of your own, of your own destiny. I'm in it for the chronic leal. I got their back. That's all I care about. But you could go into the, you could do like in the audience. and be like, hey, you should, and like, Bob, what's your problem? And you can do that.

If we can find ways on a commercial level, like you're talking about, right? Yes. To do this, but to keep the integrity to the chronically sick, where I don't lose any of that integrity. It has nothing to do with the chronically sick. You can still be helping the chronically sick and be helping them. Like, do you know how many schmiggies are out there doing, like, all sorts of, like, you know, live podcasts and live events and, like, and, like, they are.

It's a whole business. Yeah, I know. And even if you did like five city thing, right, like, or four cities or whatever it is, even stay in L.A. and do like different areas or whatever. And then you had like 2,000 people in the audience. And you just would be like, okay, Bill, okay, John, and just five, ten minutes. And then you can just have questions answered. Like, I think it would be a really nice extension.

Yes, I think so. And you can call the shots. Listen, you've got great advice. Thank you. You're definitely well experienced. You're well versed. You're seasoned with the business aspect of it too. Yes.

And you could always, look, we'll talk and give me some advice and stuff. I'm going to, I will. You should do it this way and you should try this. I mean, I'm not just giving you lip service. This is business talk we're on right now, man. Exactly. I'm giving you, like, I'm telling you, like, a direction that I think can make you, like, a huge vertical, another revenue stream, not like you care about the money.

You don't have any products. No, no, I don't want to be underneath a bridge wrapped in newspaper someday. Well, you're not, trust me. You have an entourage of 40s. seven people. You're not going to be under a bridge. You can sleep on their couch if worst comes forward. I just think that you have like a lot of like, I think you're so interesting. That's funny. You're so interesting and different and unique that that should be like explored a little bit more. That's all I'm saying. I'm honored. And like you have a lot of people who are doing

much less in the world who have, who are doing a lot more. It's all I'm saying. You can just take that. I know. I know that. I know like, I know the game. When we can talk about this offline if you Once. Offline. We will. We will. Okay, we'll talk about offline. But okay, the new book is called Life Changing Foods Expanded Edition by Anthony Williams. Expanded edition. That's the difference. It's got to be the expanded edition. It has to be. It's packed. It's so, it is packed. The first edition was the number one New York Times bestselling book. It's changed somebody lives. It's healed a lot of people with chronic illness, like big time, like really has. But this is a whole other book or more, even more, on top of that.

No, it's amazing. It's so packed. All your books, though, have so much information. I talk about mind control in this book. I mean, I talk about, like, all kinds of stuff. Mind control. I didn't see that one. There's a little touch in that.

It's part of the unforgiving six that holds people back. I talk about pathogens. I talk about all kinds of different things, chronic illness, you name it. It's packed. Mind control. I didn't, I don't know how I, my mind has passed that. That's why we're going to have you plant a mulberry tree and you're going to stop your,

busy life for 10 seconds, and you're going to walk out there, and you're going to grab that magical mulberry, and then all of that entire conditioning that's happened to you. It's going to get shocked out of you the minute you grab that, and you put it in your mouth. I hope you're right. And then you'll be back to everything. Okay, good. I'm going to do that. I actually am going to do that.

You know, I'm just, come on. Is it blackberry okay? Blackberries are close to wild. They are. That is one free, you know, out of the berries. That's a great one. All berries are good for you. They are. Hands down, they are.

But, yeah, but blackberries, they're in high league. Better than blueberries? Like, basic blueberries? Yeah, better than the regular blueberry, not the wild blueberry. Yeah. The blackberries better than the regular blueberry. Hands down, blackberries are really potent. There's some varieties that are basically close to wild.

It's crazy. Is it better to have organic? Was it always very? It's always best to have organic, but always keep in mind. Organic spray, too. Yes. They spray, you know, I've been breaking that out in the scene. I got so much hate for that one.

You know, organic. still sprays the nicotine, they still spray the caffeine. They spray all the copper, freaking industrialized copper sprayed on all the freaking organic stuff. It's like, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, you know, conventional produce is so bad. Are you crazy?

You're crazy. Dude, there's a lot of copper spray. I agree. And a lot of nicotine. You've got to wash your organic produce. You're going to be all jacked up, you know, possibly like, all like, nicotine, caffeine, copper to your brain. Yeah, you have to know how to wash your stuff. Okay, then that's good to know.

I'm going to do that. Okay, well, people should do that also. Just be aware. And I have a recommendation, anybody that has listened or watched this episode, please listen and watch it again. Yes. Because there's a lot of info in here, and I was kind of going high speed on it. We were going high speed.

There's so much, listen, I could do 77 podcasts with you. This is like, this is like touching, this is like a surface thing. And it took four years for me to come back. I know. Actually, it's 23 to 45. Three and a half. Three and a half? Yeah, okay, but still, it took a long time.

Don't quote me on it. I believe you. I'm just happy that. I'm just happy you came back. How about that? I'm just happy you came back. I'm just happy. And this is going to be, we're going to do this hopefully before another three and a half years.

We're going to be on tour together. All right. It's very possible. We are. I'm telling you. It is. My, my sphere is telling me. Chronic leal could really use your, like, ingeniousness, your experience.

I'm telling you. Because we have to help them. We're going to talk, listen, we're going to finish this conversation. I'm not done with you yet, but I'm done on the podcast with you. So medical medium, follow him, buy his book. And books. And books. Get them all.

Get them all. You'll be blown away. If you're a reader, if you're somebody that loves to read, you're just mine's going to be blown, those brain-saber books, even Medical Medium Book 1 expanded edition of that. Like just, oh my God, liver rescue, cleanse the heal. Oh, that's a good. Just pick up Clemsyield, you know, on Amazon.com in the U.S. I just saw it was going for like $12 for the hard copy.

It's a massive book. No, they're all massive books. Okay, guys, try it out, look at it. Re 1, read 2, read 10, and we'll talk later. Bye.