Habits and Hustle - Episode 53: Dr. Christian Gonzalez – Naturopathic Doctor, Breast Cancer Expert, and Helping Your Body Heal Itself

Episode Date: March 3, 2020

Dr. Christian Gonzalez is a licensed Naturopathic Doctor and a Breast Cancer Expert. Dr. Gonzalez is also the host of a popular podcast called Heal Thy Self. In today’s episode he talks about the advantages of taking a Dutch Test (an extensive hormone test), he debunks certain wellness trends, and preventative measures we can take against cancer. This is a great episode for anyone who has an interest in holistic health and learning how to heal your body! Youtube Link to this Episode Dr. G’s Instagram  ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Call today for a complimentary risk retirement assessment, dial 8 866 416 1703, or visit www.ttoinfinancial.com. Welcome to the Habits and Hustle Podcast. A podcast that uncovers the rituals, unspoken habits, and mindsets of extraordinary people. A podcast powered by Habit Nest. Now here's your host, Jennifer Cohen. Okay, this podcast, I'm very excited to have him. I actually reached out to Dr. Zip Dr. G. And if you don't, if you're in the health and wellness space, or if you're interested

in anything health, wellness wellness or under that umbrella, this is your guy. He is truly one of the most knowledgeable people I have been introduced to in a very long time. Like I said, his name is Dr. G and he has a podcast called Heal Myself which I'm telling you every single episode you learn so many amazing nuggets. I literally have so many questions for you. I don't even know where to begin. So let's just begin by saying, hello, Dr. G. Hello, listen, if this is the most unique podcast

I've ever been on, I'm walking on a treadmill. You sure are. And chit chatting about the stuff that I love. So I mean, like, all I do is talk about movement and exercise for so many people. So this is like the epitome of my essence. I'm glad that here you say that. I feel like because you're in the space of health

and wellness, I wanted to kind of do a podcast, not only that was a little bit different, but kind of kill two birds with one stone and you know, birds and calories, move, have some movement. But also there is like a correlation between when you move your brain is much more alert and it gives you more creative ideas and everything like that. So I figured why not. So where are you?

So why don't we talk about you? So you're actually a natural pathic doctor. But you specialize in, you're kind of like an oncology and oncologist. Yeah, yeah, so I did my residency in oncology. It's always been something that kind of drew me in, and then I had a personal experience where my mom passed away when I was in school,

which sort of sucked me in. It wasn't even drawing me, and it's like, all right, well, here's where you gotta go. So my residency was in oncology. So I saw thousands and thousands of different types of cancer from different ages, right? Like I'll see a 19 year old woman and then an 80 year old man and every other cancer in between, an age in between.

So that led me to understand that, boy, like this is the same good. Right. And I was over here thinking, sure, if I just eat well all my life, I'll never get cancer. And then I understand how multi-factorial it was. There's so many reasons why people get sick. And that's sort of been my journey now of like picking at, okay, what's the environmental factor in cause of cancer? What about gut? What about hormones? And that's why we were talking about

like, why you see me as someone who so well-rounded is because I had to investigate all of that to understand what cancer is. Because anybody else understanding what cancer is because look at the state of it, it's bad. It's really bad. Come the time when I'm a seven-year-old man, it'll be one and two men and one and three women. Right? Statistically speaking, that's me or my brother.

That's really, really disheartening. So what can we do now? Is it because the environment, okay, two things which I find interesting. Number one, I feel like wellness as an umbrella or a hole is much more talked about. It's become like a buzzword in a way, right? Wellness, wellness, health. But yet people are getting sick at a much higher rate. Is it mostly because of the environment, what we eat? Like, what's the main causes of this? Things have changed, things have changed for sure. Our food is much more adulterated and you found you see my passion in that in the show where I talk about the spectrum of like what quality food is versus a company

that is like making it seem like it's quality versus true quality what to look for. I think I love this. Do you call out so many companies that that they claim there are certain things? Yeah. And when you like kind of like look under the hood, it's very different. It's a concept of greenwashing and it's like you and I can come out with a company right? Let's say it's a counter cleaner and it's's gonna kill everything. And we formulated in this downstairs, and we put all the crappiest chemicals in there. We have acid, but we put a nice label that says buzzwords,

like natural, clean, probiotic spray, like green, and we could put like all trees and everything. We could sell it. Yeah. And who the heck is gonna know? No, right. The packaging is what's most important. And if, let's say, we convince Whole Foods to carry it, then it's at Whole Foods.

Everyone's like, oh my god, it's at Whole Foods. It's got to be fine. What you find is a lot of these things, let's say, for household cleaners, laundry detergents, foods, there's a lot of greenwashing. It's like, you got to look under the hood. But we never learned how. It's examples, like, for gotta look under the hood. Well, we never learned how. It's examples.

Like, for example, the word natural. Yeah, so I think, oh, yeah, that means it's great for you. Yeah, listen, you know, I look I'm a New Yorker, so I have no problem speaking up. Yes, good. And I have always been a champion of truth and justice. And I, kids, you know, if I was in a politician, I would have been on fire at some point in my life,

but this is something I really care about. So like, let's say for example, mush, mush overnight oats, which are our whole foods, and I have a lot of people in the wellness industry who's like, oh my God, I eat those. Like, here you have overnight oats with, not, you have any time anything has oats. It has to be organic.

It has to be because they use glyphosate as a desiccant. Glyphosate is a very toxic pesticides, a desiccant meeting a drying agent. Then you have these oats that are dry. On top of that, they have different fruits. So when it comes to fruits, really when you have strawberries, berries, raspberries, they have to be organic.

You have anywhere from 47 to 90 something pesticides preserving on there. So I have a dirty dozen right? Yeah yeah must be organic. Whereas like the clean 15 is 15 foods that don't necessarily need to be organic. Unfortunately the majority of the foods that fall into this mush overnight oats are on the dirty dozen and I have a problem with that because there's no labeling that tells me that it's safe. And I have a bigger problem that it's at Whole Foods and people are eating it, thinking it's a really clean

breakfast to give their kids every single look. You and I have it right now, we're not gonna die. But every single day, that's gonna have an effect on the system, especially if you're giving it to kids. Right, so cumulative. Humilize, exactly. So, like, so, because I've never seen, or is oats on the dirty dozen?

It's not on the dirty dozen. Oats is not directly spayed with heavy pesticides, but glyphosate in itself is drying age and also with wheat. So I always question like, all right, you see a lot of increase in gluten intolerance, right, or just celiac disease in general. My question is, it's like, are we really reacting to the gleeid and protein, or are we just reacting to a lot,

or is part of it the glyphosate that's really causing it to be very pathogenic in our body, right? That's why I'm big on, right, because it's a dry, a drying agent for the wheat. So it's like, how much of an issue? That's why I think maybe it's not really a dirty dozen, it's probably like two dozen or three dozen. Yeah, right.

Because it's actually, if you're saying now oatmeal, which was not even on there because of what you just said, the reason behind it, people don't even think about that. They look at the dirty dozen being like berries or what does the dirty dozen? So you have berries, cherries, like kale, basically all of the leafy, the soft stuff that can really absorb. Whereas you'll see as another rule of thumb, the clean 15 will have melons, cantaloupe, right? With food that you don't normally have.

Yeah, you're not going to eat this kind. So, I guess that would be the way to look at it. But regardless, dirty doesn't. If you say, I don't want to spend all my money on organic food, then spend it on those 12 foods. They need to be organic. You know, just pay a little extra if you're getting berries or kale. So, I even like natural.

So, like, you were talking in the beginning, like, when you see natural on a label, that doesn't mean anything. Not at all. And look, the U.S.A. organic label is far from perfect, right? But it's the best standardization that we have right now to understand that, oh, what I'm eating is not derived from sewer sludge, irradiated, sprayed with pesticides, treated like crap basically.

That's what we can say in so many terms. That's, and it'll ensure at least 95% of that is clean, right? But what natural means what then? Natural means nothing. Could anyone put that on out there? You and I can make that household spray in your basement and stamp natural on there. Based on what, what kind of standards do they have to even use to put natural on there? There's no standard.

No, there's no standard. We can make a supplement and do it. The FDA is not going to overlook that. It's what what what what what could you mean? You can claim that's not true. Well, it could be natural. We could say it's natural because why? We can we can add we can have all of those crappy chemicals and then put in lemon essence. Right. So that makes it more yeah. Absolutely greedy. Yeah. Because that's that's very subjective. What the heck is natural to you versus to me versus the consumer? Right. Right. But at least it's not subjective. It's objective when it comes to a USDA organic

label because then we go, all right, at least we know this, this, and this is not in there. So what is the case? So you're just saying about more people than ever are becoming gluten intolerant, right? Now, from what everything I remember is that if you're gluten intolerant, that means you have celiac disease. But I feel like everybody now is like jumping on this bandwagon of like, I'm gluten intolerant, I'm gluten. Like, how come there's like such an now like a wider net? Do you believe, is there such a thing even as gluten intolerant?

Well, well, there's like non-celiac gluten sensitivity, right? And those are people who say, you know what? Every time I eat meat, barley, rye, sometimes even oats, I'll have a reaction and I don't feel good. Me personally, I fall into that. Certainly it took me maybe four years to understand, and I don't have celiac disease, but four years it took me to understand why every time I eat certain foods, I start peeling my whole hands especially.

They just peel chunks. It's really crazy. And it took me a while to understand, wow, maybe I should just stop gluten and it went away forever. And then in the holidays, I had this cookie that had a little bit of it and then I started getting peeling on my hands again. So for me, that's the way it manifests. For other people, it could be respiratory issues, gastrointestinal issues, skin issues, also like me. I think that more of us are sensitive to it and just don't realize, especially as men,

we're not connected to our bodies. We don't have monthly menstruation, where women are more understanding of their bodies. But I think that a lot of us are more affected by gluten than we think. And that doesn't go to say, look, a lot of people are not. They could just eat a big piece of wheat,

and that's a great constitution. But I think we need to pay closer attention how do we react to those foods? Because my point was more that I thought people use that as, they don't want to eat bread because I think it's a weight loss thing. So then they'll say, oh, I'm gluten intolerant. So your thing you believe that there is such a thing

is gluten intolerant. Oh, sorry. Inesition to also having, you can all stop eating. Yeah, you can gluten intolerant. When, so you're saying you believe that there is such a thing as gluten intolerant. Oh, certainly. In addition to also having, you can also have a few. Yeah, you can actually. See, I was saying the opposite. I was thinking, like, well, is that really such a thing? Like, could you really have, can you really, really be gluten intolerant? Or people just like, yeah, no, you can't.

I'm so mad at you, you know? No, certainly, because your body will react to that protein. Right. Not everyone's is going to react with inflammation or Or inflammation in the gut, but for some for some folks they will react especially if you're sensitive And I see it because like I've had when I did some pediatrics in school like kids were coming with eczema and usually when I cut when you have eczema The two things you look for are dairy and gluten So yeah, so we removed dairy from the kids' diet, right? And it got better, but it didn't fully resolve.

And I was like, listen, you may not want to do it, but just try, try, get them all off of gluten foods. And then two weeks already it was disappearing three weeks it was gone. You know, so like that child didn't have celiac disease, but was specifically sensitive to gluten. They were sensitive, something. So do you think that if you had organic wheat,

let's just say, would that make it better? Yeah, that's a great question, because then the implication is that with organic wheat, there's no glyphosate spray as a desiccate to try it out. So again, is the conventional wheat that maybe that kid was eating, is he reacting to a synergy between glyphosate and the gleeidin protein, or wasphosate and the glutein protein or was he just specifically the glutein protein?

If someone goes, I can never get rid of wheat or barley or rye, then go with organic kind of, that's the case, and see if your symptoms improve, right? Maybe me, I just needed some organic wheat, you know? So, I've noticed that when people take out the gluten and a lot of different things, they add a lot of other junk or other ingredients that are junk. So, like, what would you do? And that would also have a different, that would also affect your body. Oh, yeah. I mean, like, like, you're saying when they were moved, the wheat barley, right? Yeah, like, they put a lot of different, like, I'm not saying tapioca flour is bad or whatever. I see,

yeah. But then there's much more ingredients in there to supplement. Yeah, for sure. I think there needs to be better education as to like, when you take something away or like a habit out of someone's life, you have to like introduce somebody to something healthy, right? So let's say if like they were eating barley all the time and that was stapled in our diet, we'll then introduce in the quinoa or amaranth or millet, you know, some ancient grains or something, couscous, not even couscous, but like those ancient grains, that'll be a good, you just have to,

I know what you're saying, like once you remove like those breads and you're eating more, like gluten-free breads, it can be completely full of. I find like, a lot of these things, like what I mean is like when you take out, do you remember back when, and now I'm aging myself, but I don't care, like you took everything became fat-free, that was a big phrase, like everything, and so what they had to do to eliminate the fat was add more sugar and stuff, right? So I feel like what's happened, it's evolved now, where when now something is, when you're buying, let's say, gluten-free bread versus regular bread, when you take out, when you take

out the gluten ingredients, they're putting other ingredients in there. That makes the product less, most of it, makes the product more processed. That's absolutely true. If you go to, let's say, Ralph's over here and you go to the quote unquote gluten-free section, it's processed and it's processed heavily. You have gluten-free, you know, teddy bear crackers.

You have gluten-free chips full of it. And for me, I care less about gluten free than more eating whole foods. That's right. It's like, why don't you just eat something with one ingredient as a whole, right? Like have a big dish full of produce, all the colors of the rainbow,

and instead of eating barley, have some quinoa. Well, that's my thing with vegan, also. I know you are a vegan, and don't hate me that I am not a vegan. I have more of my friends or not. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't identify with it.

I identify with other things that are like deeper than vegan. Okay. Well, you know, I just want to be eating. Yeah. I want to tell you. I find that when people, a lot of times without the knowledge base, or the time to cook vegan, or to make vegan properly, they end up eating a lot of time without the knowledge base or the time to cook vegan or to make vegan properly, they end up eating a lot of processed foods, a lot of gluten, a lot of like carbs, not enough protein, right?

So like, for example, meatless, like that meatless meat. Which you're taking on that. Yeah. All processed, I think it's healthy. I think folks, and before I get to that, I think folks need to have a better transition, a better education, and so how they should eat when they go into a plant-based or a whole food plant-based vegan diet. Okay. And understanding what like plant-based means and whole food plant-based versus like just vegan, right? Vegan doesn't tell me much. Vegan tells me you could be eating, you know, like a bowl of rice, some cookies,

some cereal, and that's your meal for the day. Whereas if someone's eating whole food plant-based, then I know it's plant-centric with whole foods around it. That's very important. Now, that leads to the next thing when we talk about those beyond meat or impossible burgers. And you know that I did a review on this because I have a problem like again, whole foods,

those aren't whole foods, those are very processed, right? Aside from, yeah, okay, they may have gluten, they may not, but the issue is that they're processed heavily, right? And when you think about the impossible burger, they, to make it taste meaty, they needed to extract from the root a specific protein. It's new to us. It's new to it. It's never been extracted scientifically like that, like chemically, right? The food nutrient, the science, we never been presented with this very special protein that makes it taste like meat.

So for me, there's going to be a ton of people developing allergies to the food in general, right? Because your body's gonna be like, what the hell is this? What is this protein? That's what the impossible burger. Same thing with the Beyond Burger. I mean, there's no indication that it's organic, right? They're using soy protein.

You can't really eat it. You can't really eat it. You can't really, well, there's two things with soy, but like, you can't really eat soy if it's conventional. You can't. That's one there's two things we're sorry, but like, you can't really eat soy if it's conventional. You can't. That's one of the most heavily sprayed foods. It's a nasty food. If you're going to choose to eat soy, then make sure it's organic.

The thing with soy is we're just jumping, right? I know, there's so many things with you. OK, let's stay on the beyond meat stuff, or the meatless meat, and then we'll get to soy. Okay, so meatless meat. Okay, so I don't like it. I don't like it. It's processed. It's not a whole food. People are going to develop allergies to it. I never tried it except before my show or review. I tried the Beyond Burger and I had the worst stomach ache. It's just my body is used to what it knows and what it knows is whole foods, fiber,

my microbiome celebrates when I eat those foods. When I throw in something heavily processed like that, it's a mess. So I don't think that anyone should be eating it, to be honest. I think that we should go back to, I think they should put millions or billions of dollars like they're making a lot of money now. Into making a really good plant-based whole food burger.

Right, and also the last sodium I find. Oh yeah, that's a macronutrient profile, yeah, I mean. I mean, tons. It's, that's why I mean, I think just why, it's better, I would think it's healthier just to have a burger. Because at least, yeah, I mean, if I was in a vegan,

then I would have a very high quality burger instead of that. Right, like the grass fed. Yeah, but as a vegan, I would love to see that those companies make a good quality plant-based whole-food burger. You know, you just develop something that is like the highest quality and it tastes really good. So you're saying soy.

Tell me what you're gonna say about soy. Yeah, so soy, and many times does get a bad rap, particularly because the big fear is that it will estrogenize you. Right. Right. Now soy is a phytoestrogen, it's a plant estrogen. But the action that it has on our body

is different than we think. What soy does is actually protects, we have receptors in every cell for estrogen, right? Men and women. It actually protects that receptor from being stimulated by the carcinogenic form of estrogen. Right? Estudial breaks down into different forms, right?

So this is why I wanted you to do the Dutch test. Yeah. So we can look at your hormones, because what we'll see is in your liver, the way that parent estrogen is being broken down. Asher, that was broken down. It goes down three pathways where I call them roads. If you're going down the road with the potholes and the glass and the sketchy neighborhood that's going to lead to or predispose you to cancer. So what are the ratios between the three? Right? So I protects the cell from that carcinogenic form of estrogen. Right? So-

Interesting. I thought people who are like prone to breast cancer should not be eating so I- Actually, so the research on breast cancer in soy is that it's protective. It's protective preventatively and for women who do have breast cancer. Now, the caveat is this, if you have a predisposition or you do have an autoimmune disease, that might be a problem because soy can technically stimulate the immune system to exacerbate that autoimmune disease. That can be a problem. The other thing is, even if you don't have an autoimmune disease, there's certain subset of folks who have a species of bacteria in their gut

that can metabolize that soy into something called equal. Equal will also have more, that'll have more hormonal effects. So it's hard to say, small amount of people, for the majority of us, soy would be safe. I would highly recommend to eat tempe versus conventional tofu, right, or something like miso, organic miso,

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Energizing, I'd be like, stomach is killing me. We're different, our microbiomes different, our enzymes are different. We break down things very differently. That's the hard part of practicing medicine is, you come in, then your sister comes in, completely different treatments. Call me different. You know? Like you said, you could in, then your sister comes in completely different treatments. Totally different. Like you said, you could be eating soy and be perfectly fine with it if you were disposition

to be type-res cancer, but the caveat if you have an autoimmune, then that would be... Then it wouldn't be exactly. It's a skin condition like a psoriasis, that's an autoimmune. That's autoimmune. Yeah. Yeah. So technically anyone who does have psoriasis shouldn't be really... and I have a history of psoriasis so I just don't want to eat it. Right. So then, so does should everybody take a Dutch test? What is a Dutch test? Okay. Look, I have no affiliation with Dutch test. I just talk about it because it's such a good test. Everyone needs to be checking their hormones, men and women. Whoever does this thing to the show, right?

Because men down that pathway of disrupted hormones throughout life, we develop all these symptoms, but at the end of it is prostate cancer. The same thing with women, right? Ovarian cancer, breast cancer. So, and we're inundated, right? We're inundated. I just did my show talking about this.

It's like, all right, plastics, boom. That's a hormone disruptor. Every single day in our water, if we have really poor quality water, I guess what we're getting, we're getting birth control. We're being exposed to that. So air, food, all these things are really messing up our homes. Our home is very sensitive.

So the Dutch test is a urine test, a drive urine test, where we're able to see what your hormone profile looks like. And it's much better than a blood test. I recommend both a year. We like to see testosterone and estudile in the blood, but in the urine, we can see how they break down. So we can see, well, damn, like, okay, I have a lot of testosterone, but when it breaks down, it breaks down to the metabolite that really pushes hair loss, you know, or as a female, wow, look, my estrogen is really high. My mom had breast cancer,

and look, my ratio of carcinogenic form of estrogen is really, really high. This is a problem. I need to fix this now before breast cancer manifests in my body. So how come no one's talking about this? That's functional, functional, naturopathic functional we do. And one thing I miss is cortisol. We can see the way your cortisol is flowing throughout the day. So it should be really high in the morning and then start going down progressively at night and be really low at night.

The reason we get tired is because cortisol is so low and melatonin is really high. The reason we wake up is because cortisol is our internal alarm clock. So it's like someone like you who's always on the run, right? Yes. Who's on the phone and you know assistance and we're just talking about how we need assistance. For the chair one. Yeah, you need to be checking your cortisol. Like, at least once a year, twice a year, just to see, well, damn, I gotta take some meantime, or I need to have better habits at night, to facilitate better cortisol production, more regular cortisol production throughout the day.

So where do people find it? I want to take this, I'm gonna take this test. Yeah, you can, well, you can, you can get it through a natu-pathic or functional doctor. And it's easy. Do all the habit, they all have it. Yeah, most, they should be aware of it by now. It's a hot test.

It came out like two years or a few years ago. But it really gained popularity last year. Okay. But it's easy. I mean, you do it as a woman on day 1920 and 21 of your cycle. If you're not regular, there's another way to do it. But you do it and, you know, do it as a woman on day 1920 and 21 of your cycle. If you're not regular, there's another way to do it. But you do it and you know, do it over three days as a man. We just do it over one day. It's really easy any time of the month. But all of us should check it. And I know

as a man, like, we got to make sure our testosterone is good, right? The predisposition of prostate cancer is not only high amount of estrogen for us men, but also low amounts of testosterone over a long period of time. So I'm 35. I really, really want to make sure that my testosterone is at a really good level for me, and I'm maintaining that with sleep, exercise, nutrition, movement, all the things that are important to facilitate that. And when you exercise, I mean also testosterone is important for women too, right? Very. very important.

We want that balance, you know, and it's like, as long as we don't have something like a PCOS situation where your testosterone is really high or the tablet is really high, we should have a perfect balance all of us, but at this point, there's no perfect because there's so much disrupting it, but we can do a lot, which is exercises, I don't care if you're a man or woman, exercise is so important. I talk about all the time. Yes, as women cannot be afraid of strength training, because you have a 35% reduction, or you can prevent breast cancer by 35% just by working out. Literally just by aerobic and anaerobic training.

That's incredible. 35%? 35%, pretty much that's like the figure that we look at. And look how much power that is. Even if your mom had breast cancer, your sister, that's a lot of power that we have over our health. Just that. And then you have like environmental stuff.

That's about 25%. You see it starts building up. If we start just making small changes, we put ourselves in a really good place. Wow. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of men I know who are like in their 50s, 60s who do a lot of weightlifting, weight training.

Yeah. And they're just naturally as much higher than people who are their 20s. Yeah, it goes down. It's simple, yeah. Yeah. Once you're 30, it's already going down. Oh, yeah. You know, so it's already going down. Oh yeah.

You know, so it's like, how much of a year does it decrease? I don't remember how much, but enough that it's not good. Yeah, enough for it to fall. Enough where we have to be proactive. And that goes to sleep. One of the best things we can do for a testosterone is sleep. Sleep well and sleep deep. That's the thing.

Sleeping deep. You think it's because you're sleeping, doesn't mean anything. Well, I got this aura ring and I have no affiliation with it on my pinky here. And this aura ring, like before that, I thought I slept well. All of a sudden, like, eight hours of sleep really is like ending up being like seven or six and a half. Like the amount of times I'm rolling and waking up and I didn't know. So it's sort of like a way to hack your... This is what I never understand about all these different devices to track your sleep.

Yeah. Okay, so now you know, what are you going to do about it? You're sleeping. No, no, no. How you change the depth of your sleep, right? Well, you look at the factors, right? Like, okay, well, if my habit is going to sleep at 12, that's a problem. So because of this, now I'm going down to 11 and seeing how I'm sleeping. Now to 10. Now I know I'm learning that 10 o'clock is pretty much the best deep sleep I can get. So you're doing a biotryle and air or other going to sleep at 5.

Just understanding myself better or even like, oh, glass of wine. How bad did that mess me up? If I had it at 7 o'clock versus three, you see what I mean? Or caffeine. Or caffeine. You know what I mean? What do you think about caffeine?

Well, there's two sides to it. Do you drink coffee? I don't, because I don't, it really amps me up. You know, as if I don't have enough to say, or just like, it does, but there's certain folks who don't break down coffee, they have the liver enzyme that it just builds up, and I'm pretty sure I have that enzyme,

or the lack of the enzyme. But coffee in itself is shown to be protective pretty much. I think it gets a bad rap. I did a whole show on coffee talking about the benefits of it and the possible negative effects of it. But I still don't buy that. Like there's a associated with bladder cancer, but I don't really,

but I buy more of the positive effects. The most important thing is getting quality coffee. Now, coffee can really be in a data with heavy metals. So if you're getting like, if you're going to dunk and don't it's everything, get in your coffee, I guarantee you're getting high amounts of cadmium, probably high amounts of lead, acrylamide. Really?

Yeah. So I've been testing the depth on the dunk and the... No, but I looked probably high amounts of lead, a crull of mine. Really? Yeah. So I did a test on the duck and... No, but I looked at independent testing of the popular brands of coffee. Like Starbucks? Yeah, and one company gave me their testing and they showed me which companies were rich. When you access it online, you can't see the like, which companies are rich, but I got the inside scoop.

Tell me the inside scoop, well, I mean, there's only like a handful of good coffee. So Starbucks, do they have a lot of, do they have a lot of, it wasn't that good, no. So how bad is not good? I wouldn't have it every single day, I wouldn't probably even have it once a week to be honest. Yeah, like, you have to, I didn't see them, or maybe I did, I don't remember. But the, which one was it? Pure purity? Coffee, I believe. Pureity or pure coffee?

I think it's purity. They were the best one. They were really good. Really good. Where'd you get that even? You get online and you just brew it yourself. Oh, see you can go. But you can make it a ritual, especially you on the run.

You could take that time and like, I know this habits and hustle, we talk about habits and rituals. Rituals are so important to me. So it's like, my ritual, because I can't have coffee, is I'll make matcha green tea in the morning. But I'll make it a ritual, like I'll have music. Right, it's a whole thing for you.

It'll be, yeah. And it's a special. That's why I feel a little about my cold brew coffee. I'm like a big fan. Have you heard of a cold brew company? It's called Gritties. No. And no, I'm not getting paid by them or anything.

It's something I actually just genuinely love. They're called Gritties. And they have the best cold brew. I've ever had. I'm addicted to it. I've had it for like the last two years. They're very small. They're like not very well-known.

Taste good. It tastes good. I'm curious now how the quality is with all the levels and all that. Yeah, so what you asked for is a certificate of analysis, COA. A COA, you can ask. So you can actually contact any company and ask for this?

Well, now that's a loaded question, because I did my plant protein investigation. I call 31 companies. Not all of them gave me their COAs. But the ones that did, if they were shitty, I called them out. And you'd be surprised, a lot of these plant-based protein powders have really high levels of lead. Oh, I know.

It's really easy. Yeah, and that's not a good thing. Yeah, so calling companies for the COA and if they give you a problem If they did I tell them like look heavy metals are not proprietary because they go with proprietary You can't we don't want to I go then just send me the heavy metal section. That's not proprietary to your formula Right, you know, it's something that's inherent and they should share it but companies they they weasel their way out of it Trust me and people have so much of that protein powder and like the biggest companies are like And people have so much of that protein powder and like the biggest companies are like

toxic in a way. Yeah, but then how does it manifest like you don't like we sat talks about earlier like most of this stuff is Accumulative nothing's gonna happen to you once or twice or three times for sure But if it's in your if it's in your body and in your bloodstream or years on in what kind of implications does it have? Well heavy metals have an affinity Well, heavy metals have an affinity in particular heavy metals, have an affinity for the brain, right? So yeah, okay, you might go, oh, you know, I'm getting older,

and my memory's not what it was, but maybe your memory should be a lot better, right? Like it's hard to, because imagine like taking small dose of poison every single day, you're not gonna really notice when it's aging or you're super fatigued, it's messing up your energy cycle in your body, or your nerves are off, you're not going to really notice when it's aging or you're super fatigued, it's messing up your energy cycling your body, or your nerves are off, you know, like you just go, I'm getting numb, it's tingling, it's something's just off.

But really one of the best ways to do it is test, see how high you are, what's going on in your body, and then there's ways to move it out of your body too. I love infrared so I have one. In infrared so I was like, I have red light, a red light, um, those are great. Yeah, panels are beautiful, but the sauna like sweating, sweating out of the way. You can literally, you can have before and after they, they measured it, you can get rid of heavy metals through the body, right? And so, yeah, heavy metals are really a thing. It's a huge thing. I mean, you know, I've been tested and I have a really high mercury from all the fish I

eat. And mercury is an astable. It's an astable. It's an astable. It's an astable. It's an astable. Right. And there's a way, isn't there a way you can get rid of mercury?

Yeah, you can. It's an astable. You can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. It's an astable. It's an astable. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury.

Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, you can get rid of mercury. Yeah, yeah, I tend to be, I'm very conservative the way I work, so I work like slow over time, because I just sometimes I'm scared to like really jump in and pull it all out, especially

when it comes to heavy metals. I think the body is more intelligent than any doctor, so if a doctor goes, you know, we're just going to get rid of all of that, you know, like trying to work with the body and see what it's trying to do first. Do you eat fish then because of all the mercury? No, I would, no, I, if I wasn't a vegan, I'd be very careful with the body and see what it's trying to do first. Do you eat fish then because of all the mercury? No, I would. No, if I wasn't a vegan, I'd be very careful with the amount of fish that I ate. Right, let's say, well you're a vegan, but you think it's dangerous so to eat too much fish.

I certainly, the problem that no one's talking about is microplastics and fish. That's having an estrogenic effect in men and women. In fish? Yes, fish can be a really potent source of hormones estrogen. We don't even talk about that, right? Because we're talking about conventionally raised meat that is being, you know, given antibiotics and hormones to get a bigger. But, you know, think about Lake Mead. This is interesting because I just had a guy on the show talk about how he was talking to the Ranger at Lake Mead. And he was saying Lake Mead is Arizona and near Las Vegas, man made Lake by the Hoover Dam.

And they said there was a feminization, meaning that there was a switch from the fish and the frogs from male to female in that lake. So they have to put in new fish every season because of that, because they're all becoming females. Oh, why? I don't know why they put in new fish, but I don't know what I'm not, I'm never fish. But the whole point is that it's really interesting because the surrounding, right, what is, we've polluted our oceans horribly, our lakes horribly. And I think now, unfortunately, we're suffering the effects of that.

And it's coming as a cycle like like through nature, right back to us. So, yeah, I would be very careful. If I did it, I would eat smaller fish. Xardine. Yeah, but I certainly wouldn't be eating like swordfish or tuna every other day. Trust me, when I was working out in oncology, I was eating right from the can, the tuna. You're me, but I love to, but things actually love tuna. It's my favorite part.

Yeah, it was great. I love to. But I actually love to. It's my favorite. Yeah, it was great. I love. I used to love salmon. I know. But I know. And the problem is, it's kind of like the bad outweighs the good in a way. I think you just need to be informed. That's the whole point of what I do my show is like, here I'm here to teach you, learn and make your own decision. I'm just opening the door leading you to water, like figure it out yourself, pick a rest, yeah. Make a decision. So then limit fish except small fish, okay, about that. And infrared sonas, how you think that can actually get rid of mercury poisoning or toxicity.

It'll certainly start mobilizing those heavy metals and different, you know, even water soluble toxins, right to the skin, you know, how often soluble toxins, right, right to the skin. How often do you need to do it though? I have one I do it like twice, three times a week. I wish I could do it every single day, you know, but it's like a little commitment. Yeah, it is a commitment, right? Yeah, but I love it and Yeah, I'm big on that stuff. I'm big on like those those those hacks that we can do. Yeah, to optimize our health. What are some other hacks that you do to optimize your health? Ah, really cool.

Well, I have a cold plunge, I just bought one. You bought a cold plunge? Yeah, I have a little frigerator in my front yard. Does that one actually have ice in it though? It's like 35 degrees, so it's like little ice on the top. I hate it. It's really hard to do. Oh, mentally it's super difficult.

But that's the whole thing. Yes. I want to strengthen my mind with my body too, right? Because we know that it all starts stimulating. It actually can stimulate fat loss. Because it'll change the adipose profile in your body. It'll increase your immune system, strengthen, reduce inflammation.

It has all these benefits. But for me, I really love the mind challenge of it. And that's a hack. Huge hack. It's a huge hack. Yeah, that's challenge of it. And that's a hack. It's huge, yeah. It's a huge hack. Yeah, that's a big one. That one's big. I did that.

You know, Lair Hamilton and Gabby Rusei started this, you know, XBT training. Have you heard of this? No, I know them too, though. Okay, they're great. And part of the program is you go to my hot son to like the ice bath, right now, ice plunge. I swear that was truth. When they basically like forced me to go into the sink, it was the worst thing in my

life. I was the worst feeling I've ever had. I would say giving birth. No way. No, I'm not joking. It was easier than doing that. It was torture. Yeah.

I couldn't even do it more than like 90 seconds. Yeah. The first time I did, I thought I was going to die, but the promise. Why is that? Because your body is smart. It's setting these adaptive responses, going, this is dangerous. Start increasing respiratory action in the body, right?

To put yourself in a more, you know, like you're in a sympathetic state, everything's tightening up. The mind thing is like coming out of that sympathetic state into a parasympathetic state. That's the most powerful part of it, right? Usually you need coaching in the first time. You should be like, coach me, get out into coach me,

she's like, okay, you should've talked me off the ledge because I went in the first time for like four seconds. I'm like, block this, I'm outta here. And then they're like, okay, you have to try this and I went for 90 seconds and I will tell you those are worst 90 seconds in my life. Yeah, okay, so I did 30 seconds of first time. And then five minutes.

And then five minutes. Yeah, five the next time actually, because I was like, I got into the mindset of breathing. And then, breath through it. Breath, breath is like one of the most important things we could pay attention to. The reason there's a reason I have a breathwork teacher is because breath is so important.

It's inherent, it's life. You can go from sympathetic to parasympathetic in five minutes. So tell people what what that is because I think we... So breath work is literally just... You're going to prepare sympathetic. Oh, okay. Yes, our nervous system has like these two tears, right? And we shift and all throughout life. So let's say a bear comes in here in the middle of our podcast. You better believe

I'm running like high school track. That's my sympathetic nervous system firing off. In that state, there's no blood going to my digestion. Doesn't matter what I ate before I came here. The body isn't care about digesting. It cares about sending blood to my muscles. My pupil's dilating, so I'm aware of everything around. Is that fight or flight? Fight or flight, yeah.

It's exactly that. Parasynpathetic is what they call wrestling digest. So you're in bed. When you're about to go to sleep, that's parasympathetic. You know, there's no blood to your muscles. Your body isn't care about running. It's digesting. You're in bed. When you're about to go to sleep, that's parasympathetic. You know, there's no blood to your muscles. Your body isn't care about running. It's digesting. You're breathing, you're deep.

So you can also, even if there's no bear here, you're stressed throughout the day, the same way. And your body is thinking that there's always a bear chasing you. Right? You see what I mean? You're still having that adaptive response. The key is then to be able to shift it back to person pathetic even when you're running around. So let's say you have a huge schedule and you're on the phone, you hang up, you gotta run your house, you get to a place, the minute you have open five minutes, instead of like, you know,

going on Instagram, close your phone and just take five, take breaths for five minutes, like deep breathing, right? Inhale and then exhaling a lot, like double the amount. So inhale four seconds, exhale eight seconds. That'll bring you right to parasympathetic. Through the signals of your diaphragm, to your nervous system. It's beautiful, but it's powerful too. And you can do that even in a nice bath. Vitamin water just dropped a new zero sugar flavor called with love. Get the in a nice bath. Nourish every you. Vitamin water is a registered trademark of glass O. Well, what's the difference between an ice bath and an ice plunge? Are they still the same effect? Oh, yeah, it's still the same effect. You're still going to go in like 30 to 45 degree.

Are they the same temperature, is it? It would take five, I mean, at that time. Yeah, it would take, yeah, they're the same ish. They both still hurt. Oh, you know, other hacks take, yeah, yeah, they're the same ish. They both still hurt. Oh, you know, I'm yeah other hacks I mean sleep hygiene is important for me. So it's like an hour before bed. That's my time me time goodbye Right phone is off. Don't text me right now or you said before bed and then that is Reflecting on the day doing some visualization for the next day

some meditation, maybe listening to some music, writing, poetry, whatever it is, and then I just get to bed. But like that establishes your power, sympathetic, right, before bed. Instead of like getting off the phone, arguing with someone, closing it, and then going, I'm gonna take a shower and go to sleep.

So you know what I mean? Like we have to facilitate these signals in our body, the way we evolve. We evolve, the sun goes down, it's time to go to sleep. So you know what I mean? Like, we have to facilitate these signals in our body the way we evolve. We evolve, the sun goes down, it's time to go to bed. But instead, you know, we're watching Netflix. So you, that's right, exactly. But does it, I mean, it's not all for what, like everyone has a different thing. Like, I personally, like, even with, you know, knowledge of different, like, hacks and,

you know, trends and wellness, at the end of the day, honestly, like, what really kind of calms me down and like, you know, turns's trends and wellness. At the end of the day, honestly, like what really kind of calms me down and like, you know, turns off my brain is actually watching Netflix before I'm going to be mad at it to watch a show. Yeah. You know, I noticed like, it's like now, like, it's like that it's basically like a faux pas

to say, I actually watch TV, yeah, my god, I watch Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny how things change. I'm not sure if it's going in the industry, you know. Because I have, that makes that like that takes my brain to a happy place. Well, the same thing as with music. If I listen to music, we're still consuming. And I love that, like we listen to music part.

I also think there's something to be said about that reflective piece. Because that reflective piece we learn about ourselves. That's what I talk about me time being like the one of the keys to health. Well, the other one that you said was a key to health, was having a sense of purpose. That's a big pillar. Yeah, imagine going through life and not doing something that you know, this is my definition of health.

And I don't believe in the theological version of it, but I believe in like, we know who we are, we know our potential, we know why we're here in this world, and we're doing the opposite. That's for me, that's hell. If you saw me, and I love accounting, accounts are great, but if you saw me in an accounting cubicle, but imagine you know what my potential was, like you had a vision. More passions are like so totally the opposite. And then we're doing that. The sense of purpose, and we even see it in health, right, reduced doctor visits for those who. The sense of purpose, and we even see it in health, right? Reduced doctor visits for those who have a sense of purpose, right?

Just better overall health because we're carrying out why our soul is here, and that's beautiful, like, to do that work, right? To bring light to others, whether it's, whether it's me, literally creating, you know, basket weaving, and sharing that light with people, or going on Instagram and talking about gut health. It's still the same energy. It's just manifested in different ways. More from our guests, the first a few words from our sponsor. So everybody loves payday, but loving a payroll provider?

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is why I like you so much because you're not just like, you're not just like flat lining with everything. It's boring, the flat lining. Yeah, but you're not boring, that's why I like you. Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you the... You had a opinion, which is good. Yeah, that's, that's, listen, go grow up in New York, you have to have an opinion about something.

You better have an opinion about it. Yeah, so the thing about dairy is I don't want to be dogmatic about anything, but I am dogmatic about dairy. I don't think it has a purpose in human health at all. Even for kids. So it's, the only't think it has a purpose in human health at all. Even for kids. So it's the only time that it would be quote unquote okay to have animal protein in the form of dairy is in childhood because we have that enzyme to break it

down, right? So biologically nature after there's breast feeding phase goes okay, this organism is not to be having dairy, right, or milk, from another species or just mom in general, and we're going to reduce that enzyme throughout life. So usually by the age of five, or African American kids will have it younger, but by the age of five, your enzyme to break down lactase is really low to break down dairy, right? So then you have people saying I'm lactose intolerant, but it's not that, it's just that you're not meant to have that food in your life.

Now, so if you're saying that if you're five and under, you're able to break down much more efficiently than any other physician. Or teenager. Like when you're six or seven, it's running kind of declining. Well, on paper, yes. After five, you start really declining. Usually, you know, some kids have it up to six, seven is running kind of declining. Well on paper, yes. After five, you start really declining.

Usually, you know, some kids have it up to six, seven, eight, even even to my kid. Yeah, but if you see, like, I think we're suffering from the repercussions of going against what nature is intending. And that's sort of like a big definition of disease. Like we do the opposite of what our body is supposed to do. But when we're drinking milk for, I mean, forever.

We were. There's two things. I'm a milk and soda dye. Right. So there is a huge myth that milk does anything for bones. It doesn't do anything for bones. I'll say that again. There is no strong data that milk does anything for bones.

That is a huge campaign lobbying to tell, I mean, that happened in the 90s. Remember, got milk or... Got milk before us. That was all based on nothing. It's pretty incredible to think because when they do the study on, they did it on young girls, they did it on young boys, there was nothing that we saw. And I think it was Walter Willett who was the head of nutrition at Harvard,

who actually was like kind of like pushing milk in the beginning, did all of these studies and showed that like really doesn't do anything for, calcium doesn't do anything like that for really the bone, but it's like the milk that does it. So, but when the milk has a lot of calcium in it, it's not like that. And you can't even, you know what's crazy? Even supplementing calcium as a pill

is not gonna do much for your bones. You know what's more important even supplementing calcium as a pill is not going to do much for your bones. You know what's more important? Vitamin D, right? Vitamin D is a big one. Vitamin D is really important. That's going to help drive those nutrients to the bones. But vitamin D, it's like we've been convinced in brainwash and it's not just like the general

public. It's dietitians too, right? And dietitians get mad when I say that like, there was a quote by Marion Nestley, and she said dietitian, she's a really big food, food scientist, I believe. What's her name? Marion Nestley.

I think that's an association with Nestley. Yeah, no, no, I know, I think I have a book of that. Yeah, she said like dietitians and nutrition have been convinced that dairy is a health food, but it's not. And let me go back to saying like, dietitians and nutritionists have been convinced that dairy is a health food, but it's not. And let me go back to saying, like, I guess, you know, maybe a hundred years ago, dairy is very different, but what we have is not even really dairy. It's really adulterated, right?

We get pesticides, we get herbicides, we get antibiotics, we get hormones, right? Literally hormones coming in. One of the best ways to disrupt our hormones is men and women is to drink dairy. Remember that. That's one of the most potent sources of estrogen that we're getting, right? And it's in ratios that are not meant for humans.

It's in ratios that is meant for a cow, brand new born, to go from 60 pounds to 600 pounds and like a year, right? But for us, think about that hormone profile. Now we're taking that profile and giving it to a baby, or a young kid. Do you see what I mean? Like nature is beautiful and it's designed, and that design is not meant for human beings.

We're actually, it would be better suited if we were drinking dog milk than cow milk. Like the profile would be closer to us. It would actually be more healthy to drink that. But who the hell is drinking dog milk? Is there something to do? Yeah, I mean, there's animals, yeah. Well, there's like also, but do you think that if you drink organic milk, grass-fed organic milk? Look, does it make it, does it change again? Like how we change organic, for gluten, for example,

we talked earlier about having organic wheat. How much difference does it make? Would you change your mind about dairy if it was organic and grass fed? No, not at all. Oh, if someone, if someone, yeah, if someone goes, I have to have dairy doctor Gonzalez. I will never listen to everything you're saying.

And I'm never gonna let it go. I'm gonna say, okay, that's fine. Make sure it's organic, right? Because now we know it doesn't have those antibiotics inside of it, right? We know those cows weren't raised around pesticides, herbicides, their food, their feed was higher quality. The profile of fatty acids is a little different.

It's gonna be less inflammatory. But still that profile is not made for human beings. That's what I'm saying. It's inherent in the milk. Whether it's I'm saying. It's inherent in the milk. Whether it's organic or not, it's inherent in the milk. It's not to be translated to human. So what do we see as a result? Well, one of the best ways and studies to disrupt rats' gut is to give them casing protein

from the milk, which is why when I was never bodybuilding, but I was in fitness hard. No, like, hey, look, I was, I was, I was a lot more, yeah, I was bigger in college. Anyway, I used to have those weight proteins, it killed my stomach weight protein, right? And that's, it has a high amount of casing. Well, in studies, what do they give rats? They give rats casing to disrupt their gut. Right. So, not only are you disrupting your gut with dairy,

you see a lot of, and the most, the thing that really used to set me off was women used to come in with like jawline acne, right? A lot of acne and they go, I don't know what to do. And actually there's someone that we know, both of us, her story was she had acne all her life. Every dermatologist wanted to give right, everything to suppress it,

accutane, all of these creams. Right, Nadees and all that. She said all her life. And it wasn't until two years ago that someone said, maybe you should stop dairy. She never thought of that. And it's incredible to me that a dermatologist would never even recommend that, because the minute she did it, and about a month, her acne was gone.

Well, her life, so imagining suffering all your life, and I see this myself, like when I have females come in with drawing line acne, you get a muscle of dairy and it resolves and they get mad because like, why don't anyone tell me this, you know? But what do you, you were saying earlier that it's not a one size fits all, like so some people could be phylogy. Some people could be fine. But most people are not. Most people are not.

I'm telling you, like. What do you have in style? You think almond milk? Oh, milk, there's so many different milks now. There are. Oh, what's the meaning? Yeah, there are. So I did a whole show on alternative milks.

And of course you did. There was, I think there's some really good ones out now. There's, there was that article that just came out on almonds and almond milk, the demand. Yeah. Putting a strain on honeybees, which is a new concept for many people. What? Tell me. Yeah, it was just an article, I don't know, I think it was New Yorker or New York Times. They put on an article saying that like the almond milk industry is putting so much strain on honeybees and the lotatham are dying off because of harvesting of almonds. So if that's to believe then, okay, yeah, there's great coconut milk. There's tea milk,

there's hemp milk. What do you drink? Right now, I have one by three trees, and it's a pistachio milk. The pistachio milk? It's really good. I've never heard of that. It's really good. I've heard of cashew milk. Cashew milk is wonderful too. Yeah, milk is good.

Milk is very good. Milk is very good. Milk is a good company. So, like, what is milk? What is milk? Milk is almond milk. So, what makes it good? There's no caraging in it.

It's not exactly. It's literally just almond milk into still water. You see, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is caraging so bad? It's a thickener. It's a thickener. It comes from algae. I believe red algae, I believe. But the problem is that it's been linked to inflammation

in the intestine, right? But the thing is, there's not enough good data to fully support that. But I tell people, look's not enough good data to fully support that. But I tell people, look, if you're reacting to it and you know that, if you change all the notes, it's one free of that, then listen to your body. Because I don't wait for data and studies to show me that, okay, now it's definitively linked to intestinal inflammation, which was what I was saying maybe two years before. I pay attention to what someone's telling me now.

You know, that's more important than studies. People hang on to like these studies as like Bible. My Bible is what the person in front of me is telling me. I don't care if a study says that, you know? Because people are so different. So why pistachio milk over oat milk? I just like the taste. Oh, okay.

Is one better in terms of protein and stuff? Yeah, no, I'm not just taste. I don't put too much, but oh milk. I had a I did a whole thing on Oakley is that they should be using organic label on their product. I actually had a call with their like their Administrative team. Yeah, cuz I was like listen Cuz when I did the podcast and then I put on Instagram it went viral. Everyone was talking. It was insane the podcast and then I put on Instagram, it went viral. Everyone was talking, it was insane. Oh, about only. Oh, about only. Yeah, it's actually the highest rated episode ever.

Wow, really? Yeah. What happened? What did you say? Because I was talking about only and I said, look, all right, there's no guarantee, again, oats. We just talked about oats. Yeah, yeah.

They have canola oil. And they're having non-organic oats. Exactly. So now that I have no, no, I have no knowing that anything about the oats, how they're treated, at least if there's a USD organic label, oh now I know there's no glyphosate being sprayed on this. This is what I told them on the phone. They said no, but it's this detox project certified. I go, okay, that's great. Where is the label? They go, we didn't put it on yet. I go, then how does anyone know? Like this is, I had a conversation with their administrative team about this.

And this is what we need. We need change. We need companies to be more. So what happened? Did they? Well, they said they're gonna. I haven't seen it yet. Okay, so for all we know, they're probably still, they're probably just not organic and

now they're like, oh shit, what do we do now? Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't know. All I know is like, if there's a company out there that's sourcing organic oat milk and has USDA organic label and, you everything else looks good it's not using all these fillers then great like I go I go with that way before only only just very popular yeah it's become really popular because the all alternative milks are very popular yeah I mean the second in a month or two months of dairy farm just

shut down board and and that's it's happening because the demand's not, like people are becoming more awake, they're like, all right, why are we drinking milk anyway? Like, what's the point of it, you know? Yeah, I mean, and also there's alternatives that taste good. Yeah, at this point, but when back when I was, like, starting to move in, it was like one in a box and it was disgusting.

I mean, that's right, exactly. Yeah. So then what's your thing with oral health and how that is a direct link to body, I'm going right's right, exactly. Yeah. So then what's your thing with oral health and how that is direct link to body, I'm going right, I'm going right. You really are. This is like, we're getting everything. I was very excited.

I told you about you coming on the episode. And I want to make sure that I ask you a lot of stuff because you have a lot of knowledge. Yeah, this is good. This is a great interview. It's really challenging me here. I think it's good. And you're walking while you're trying to like do something. I know, I know. And I'm staying cool, which is good.

Oral health is so important. I went to dental school for a year and a half, actually, University of Minnesota, because I wanted to be an orthodontist. And then I found out about Natchapag medicine and breast cancer, my mom, and everything changed. But I have a huge crush on oral health. Because you crushed.

Because the nerdiest thing I've ever said, too. Because that is a window to our health in general, right? I've seen persistent words on the hand, nothing help them. And then when they removed or cleaned out a root canal, it regressed completely. There's what happens is in our mouth we can have persistent inflammation in our gum line or under our gums, and that persistent inflammation can put a real toll on our health. Imagine you live in a mansion, but there's one room that's always on fire, right?

And that one room that is always going to be on fire, it's going to recruit resources and start wearing you down, right? So imagine your husband always had to just throw water in that room like 10 times a day. At some point he's going to get resentful, he would be like, fix that room. Right, right, right. See what I'm trying to say with that analogy is that if there's persistent inflammation, we're trying to pretty much pick the better analogy, but I got you. Yeah, I know, I know.

But if you're on the spot, I can't. Yeah, on the spot. But that inflammation is really something for the body. Right. I would think it seeps into your bloodstream. It does. It does. And with the brain health too, right?

We have nerves that literally go from the top of our mouth, the bottom of our jaw all the way up to our brain, right? So if we have persistent infections, especially viral of the viral character, then it can just travel all the way up theoretically affect our brain health. And then gut, the mouth microbiome is very tightly knit to our gut microbiome too.

So if you're... What, hold on, you said oral microbiome? Yeah, I mean, you have tons and tons of bacteria. Right. Cavities, for the most part, the work of Stoctus Stephen Lin is really important. He's a dentist out in Australia. And he talks a lot about this. He came on my show and we went deep into this, but really cavities are just an imbalance

of the oral microbiome, right? And cavities are protective mechanism. It's actually the body protecting itself by creating a cavity, which is incredible because we've really villainized cavities, but we have to understand what's going on in our mouth first, right? So the foods that we eat, especially fiber, are really helpful to the oral microbiome and our gut microbiome. So if anyone comes to me and they're eating a crappy diet, the first intervention I make,

aside from taking out all the processed food, is saying add in fiber. We don't need enough fiber. We eat like 19 to 25 grams and that's like the RDA and it's way, way, way, way, it's absurdly low. We need like 70, 80 per day. What are some good ways to get fiber if you're not eating whole wheat bread or with some like natural other non like non-processing? Yeah you think of plants, think of plant cellulose fiber both like beliefy vegetables broccoli apples apples I guess that's my favorite.

Asparagus, apples. It's a dandelion root. It's like the whole kingdom of plant-based. Right. If you think about plants, the whole kingdom is going to supply us with really, really, really good fiber. And our microbiome's going to be happy. It's going to celebrate.

So basically what you're saying is people should go to the dentist. People should go to the dentist. But before they go to the dentist. People should go to the dentist, but before they go to the dentist, they should eat a ton of fiber. Right. They should floss between meals as much as they can. I just apply a known, who haven't been to a dentist in like 10 years. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy, right? And there's actually power in oil pulling, either with coconut or sesame oil. Was it called? Oil pulling. You put oil in your mouth and swish for like two to five minutes. I've heard of that. What does that do?

It actually will help reduce gum inflammation. And the presence of bacteria called Muteins, which is really one of the big causes of cavities that will help reduce it in the mouth. So to good practices, an aerobic practice. And to any oil, you can take like olive oil. Coconut or sesame. That's the ones that were studied in the Indian study. So you put some coconut oil in your mouth and you just like switch it around for two to five minutes. You know, I have coconut oil among my kitchens or bathroom sink. And how often are you doing this? I do every day.

Okay, so let me get this straight. You're doing cold punch near infrared, infrared sawas, some oil pulling for your mouth. Oil pulling and then all the other hippie stuff that I do. And then with a no, they mean a meditation. Grounding, grounding. Right in the beach every morning. Every morning I go to the beach. But you don't think you're lucky enough to live in your bed.

Yeah, but you have grass. You put your feet on the grass. You know? And what's the benefit of that? Well, in the beginning, I was like, oh, what's all this hippie stuff? But what we see in studies is that it is. It is, but earth is covered with a sea of negative electrons. And those negative electrons, when you put feet on it, you're a conduit.

You conduct it. And what we see is that it helps balance circadian rhythms. So like, let's say you take a flight to New York, one of the best things you can do really quickly is take your shoes off and put your feet on the ground to help you balance that circadian rhythm so your body can balance with the way you are. It's amazing.

You can New York wear in the concrete? No, no, no, no, no, yeah, I don't find a little path. I'll just say, where are you gonna find it? Which is, which actually makes me cringe. I was in New York wear in the concrete? No, no, no, no. Yeah, I don't find a little path. I'll just say, where are you going to find it? Which actually makes me cringe. I was in New York last month and I was like, where the hell can I ground here? That's what I was thinking. Would you go essential part?

No, I didn't even go. I didn't even ground that day. I was wearing my rubber soles and... Really? Yeah, but helps reduce inflammation, helps stimulate your immune system, quarters all reduction. It's amazing. Yeah, I can, I put up a link on the study

for when I did the grounding, because it's amazing stuff. How do you have time to do work when you're doing all these rituals? I mean, you just... A well-rathered, it was like actually like, we're out of the unit. I carve it out. We tend to wake up in the morning.

Usually, no, usually like 7.30. I don't wake up. I'm not using you anyway. I'm not a five o'clock person. It drives me crazy. Yeah, oh gosh. No, 7.30, I wake up and then I do rituals for two hours. No person. It drives me crazy. Oh gosh. No, seven thirty I wake up and then I do rituals for two hours. No one bothers me, no phone.

That's it. And then I might have put in another hour. Wow. These are good ones though. Okay, give me some. We're going to keep on moving on because I know it's been way over an hour or even. But I want to go over the worst and best functional foods for performance.

Oh, yeah. And recovery. So maybe like three to each. Okay, well, Dairy should not be eating. Right. We got that again. Right. Shouldery foods, obviously.

You already know. No, right. It was like they're super unique that I happened to. Okay, well, Dairy, for me. Okay. I forgot. Let's see. Staying away from,

when I put up that whole thing, it was more like here take these things, rather than, the only thing I really got on was dairy before workout. We do believe that actually having a meat-heavy meal before workout or performance is a problem because it will disrupt endothelial dysfunction and cause like a closing of your endothelium. Therefore, theoretically, you're getting less blood to your muscles.

So those two, I'd stick on, but really what you want to do is have nitric oxide rich foods. Beats arugula is one of the most densely nitric oxide rich foods. Beats arugula, kale, romaine lettuce, find a way to have it in there. So for beets, you can eat them about an hour and a half or two hours before a workout, or you can beat juice 20 minutes before, make sure you switch it around your mouth, because it'll start activating that process. So beets are very underrated, I feel. There's so much.

I love beets. Yeah. And that's just talking about performance, but it also supports your liver. So beets are, beets are one of my favorite things. Peppermint oil, there was a study that showed two drops of peppermint oil in 20 milliliters, or 10 milliliters of water helps open up your respiratory system when you're working out. That's really cool. Chocolate was shown, another thing that was shown.

Tarte cherry or tomato juice has been shown to be very important for recovery. But I also use it during, because it was a study on sprinters that they had better sprinting times when they had tart cherry juice like during a workout. Orange is a watermelon,

they reduce the antioxidants in the body, they help quench it, so it's great after a workout. Those are some of my favorite actually, really easy stuff. Super easy. And a lot of things I actually, I do, the beats, the tar cherries, those things really easy. They make us easy.

It makes it different. You know what I just recently invested in? I want to get your opinion. I bought this juicer, where I take now, because one of the guests I had was this he used to be a you have seen Champion middleweight champion and He said that what he like swears by is he takes a lemon and in this juicer and it was a cognitive mass

Yeah, yeah, and puts in in water to detox his body. Yeah, I know. Now I do that every single morning. How do you feel? To be honest, not any different. So I want to know what you think. I mean, from an antioxidant standpoint, that's a good move. You know, the vitamin C, the bioflavonoids, and the lemon could be helpful just overall.

But why don't you just squeeze it? Isavonoids, and the lemon could be helpful just overall. But one just squeeze it. Is there a difference between squeezing the lemon? The versus like taking the lemon and squeezing it through the juice. So what's the benefit of not? You can squeeze it while you're getting the rind I'm assuming, right? When you're doing it. I mean, the whole length, so basically this machine, what happened is you put the lemon in and it basically juices the entire lemon.

Yeah, so you're getting the rind. So it's different. Inside the rind, there's other plant chemicals in there, like porcotin and anti-inflammatories, different bioflavonoids that you're getting from that too. So yeah, it is a little bit different. Like theoretically, you can squeeze it and then scrape some of it into there if you want,

but or you could just juice it. Does it really detox your body in your body? Oh, well. The vitamin C will help your adrenals, it'll help your liver, but it's not like saying, like, I'm taking lemon, therefore, I am detoxing my whole body or me drinking last night. Or just, but as a ritual, like one of my rituals,

like basically what I was doing every day, regardless for years, I drink a bunch of room temperature water the morning before I do anything because I had a problem with remembering drink water. So that's way to like, you know, all my energy. That's amazing. So he says, if you add the lemon, it's going to like take it up like 10 fold. So I've been doing it. I mean, I look, to be honest, I haven't looked at research with lemon.

Should I turn the juice or is it a lot of acid? No, no, you should juice beats or you should juice different vegetables too. I was going to celery for a bit. When do you think of celery juice? I think there was a huge craze on it. I think it's helpful and beneficial. It has minerals. That's wonderful.

I think that no one mentioned that if you have celery juice and you go out in the sun, you're more susceptible to getting burnt. Those who are skin sensitivity, yeah. So that's something. Really? Yeah, it's something that people should know. Some of the constituents in celery are photosensitizing. So I think it's important to talk about because we're in LA and people are out in the sun. Maybe, you know, if it would be different if we were in the middle of the world. I didn't even never heard that. So do you think? But I think it's helpful. I don't think it's like a scam. I think-

Does it necessary? But it's, but like, as important as celery is, is always like beats. Well, I was going to say it's not just celery. It's just like focus on celery. It's supposed to be like the panacea of life, right? Like, if there's any of you drink celery juice, basically you'll like live to be 150.

I know, I mean- And it will take away any single element of the world that you'll ever have. And so obviously I know that's kind of grandiose and over exaggerated, but everything is a trend. Do you remember like, can't look at a huge trend? Coconut oil. Everything is a trend.

Yeah, I know. Everything is a trend. I'm more concerned with, OK, where do I know the action of the vegetable is into the body? Right. Like, okay, great juicing, celery is amazing, but also chew some of it, so you get that fiber and feed your microbiome.

Right. You see, like, I can't, I won't write off what, if it's making people healthier, like they're getting more vegetables, then I'm not gonna write it off. But it's also like psychosomatic. If you think it's working, it's really. I agree, I agree.

There's a huge thing to placebo. Right, and it's huge. It's huge. agree. There's a huge thing to placebo. Right? And it's huge. It's huge. So let's get back to the lemon just for one second. Then that could be psychosomatic. That can be your ritual where you go, this is detoxing. And who might I say as a doctor, that it's not detoxifying?

Or maybe you say, this is detoxifying my liver stronger than anything I've ever put in my body today this morning. Let that be your word and your affirmation. And who the heck am I supposed to say? Well, you're Dr. G for sure. And I value what you say, but it makes my life easier to be honest. I can return the juicer and just start using my regular, like little thing that I could squeeze, or my hand is squeezing.

Squeeze it in there, keep the juicer. For other juices come the summer, we'll do a juice fast. We'll do a juice fast. How about that? But then I have a whole thing with juice fast. We'll do a few loads. How about that? But then I have a whole thing with juice fast. Well, it's not really fasting. It's like you're taking a thing. Fasting's very different, but it's just like a,

we could do like a Dave drinking juice. Perth. But the beet juice, what would you say then, if you're going to have, not to say you have to choose one or the other, but you say doing beet juice versus celery juice is what's way more beneficial to the body. If you had to choose... Well, if I had to choose, I would utilize the beets because athletic.

Right, so if you do a lot of exercise. Yeah, and I do, believe it or not, I do. No, I do. There's some muscle somewhere in here. I've got it in your e-tows, I think. Yeah, my toes. But yeah, it's really, it's, it's, it's, it's, if, if we know in studies that it's helpful and what it does, then I'm gonna use that. Whether even if it's placebo or not, guess what?

I'm drinking that and I'm going, man, I'm gonna have my best pull-up day of my life. Yes, absolutely. You see what I mean? So it's like, there's, it's also mindset, right? It's mind over matter. Like, you know, your, your body does what your mind tells it to do. 1,000%. So if you think if I drink that beat juice or I do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that?

Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that?

Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that?

Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that? Do you want to do that?, you know, all of those beautiful genes and skills, great. Then what about what's going on in here, especially like in baseball or something? It's all up here. I mean, this is my whole life and business. There's all but mindset. So, you know, I could not agree more. Okay, we're almost done.

I got one more question for you. I'm working up a sweat now. Are you? This is good though. This is good. And we're going to like minute, I don't even know what it's like 70 minutes or something. Wellness trends right so what are some wellness give me two and I don't want to like oh wait that's what we do that okay what are some the two wellness trends that you see a lot of

or you see that's going to be forecast in the in the future that people aren't don't know about yet. grounding that's a good one yeah that grounding because there's actually scientific data future that people don't know about yet. Grounding? That's the point. Yeah, grounding because there's actually scientific data behind what the hippies were doing and taking off their shoes and walking on the ground. So I always tell people if you have the opportunity. Do it? Yeah, just do it.

Just take off your shoes. What's the other one? I do think that I really, really think that hydrotherapy, it's huge in Germany, but like, the way we interact with hot and cold water. So I do think that cold thing was gonna really start even making more of a... But it's been pretty popular.

Okay, so let's say, let's call that one popular one. I'm not gonna let you use that one. Yeah, okay, so then I won't use it. I wouldn't even get to learn Hamilton by the way. Or like this guy named IceHawk, you know? We're not. We're not. IceHawk is on Instagram.

He's always ice. Yeah, he's always ice. Yeah, he's always ice. Well, I would say a red light therapy is, I think it's steadily increasing, especially for folks who live in places where they don't get a lot of sun. Oh, I'm a big red light therapy. Yeah. I'm going to buy a light.

I have them. Oh, you do? I have the small one and the big one. I'm gonna buy a light. I have them. Yeah, oh you do. I have the small one and the big one. Me too. I have to say I have a big panel and a small one. I think I gotta send me the big panel then, if that's the case. Yeah. I've only had his break.

I got the one that goes like, but it's a doctor who runs, who's like to see you. Yeah, I know, he's a very nice guy. Yeah, very nice guy. So, okay, yeah, well, there you go. They need to sponsor my show now. I think about it. Oh really?

They should, but like, I think that that light is making a slow steady trend, particularly because there's a lot of health and floors putting it out there, but there's studies behind it. Well, I was going to ask you about that, right? Because I, there's been a lot of studies on it, for sure. My question is, and I just recently been thinking about this, now, if it stimulates yourself, can that cause cancer? Cancer? I know what you're saying. Yeah. And I just recently been thinking about this. Now, if it stimulates your cells, can that cause cancer?

Cancer, I know what you're saying. Yeah. Well, that's a great question, actually. What it's doing, it's stimulating mitochondria, right? And it's stimulating it to create energy. It's not necessarily per se stimulating it to replicate. When cancer is caused by something that is an inciting factor to the gene, to the DNA, and then that's giving that DNA signal that says, hey, start replicating.

Something's turned on or off and start replicating over and over. What that's doing is sort of a different mechanism. It's exciting the cells such that it's not exciting, it It's replicated. It's exciting. It's create more energy more efficiently It's a little different mechanism. That's a great question though. That's a great question We should we should ask mr. Bio light after this. I know I want to ask him I think I think I've kind of like asked him a little bit But not deep enough because to be honest with you. That's my only hesitation Yeah, you know because when you really think about what it says, it does.

And then you think, okay, if that's the case, how does that really relate? And they say, I've done some research, and it does say, there hasn't really been a correlation between cancer and merolite therapy. However, we always find out like 20 years down the road. I know, which is why. Yeah, I mean, I'll do it. I don't do it every day. Sometimes I'll do it on my skin.

If it's really dry, like, dry, so something like that. And that has helped. It helps with skin. If that's what they have, it's actually taking it away completely. It's insane. It's helped with skin things. And then that means there's two different methods you have, like on the panels, you have near infrared and you have red light, right?

Yeah. So you can do as one or the other. Yeah. But no, it does help. That's why I was bringing it up. Yeah, yeah. I think those are the two biggest health things right now. I mean, I can't really think of anything,

or maybe look, we're so in it that we see, we see. That's the thing, you're so in it. That's why I wanted to ask you because I'm so inundated with this stuff that I don't even know anymore. It's like popular now versus, you know, because a lot of times I bring something up that people are like, what have never heard of that?

But then talking to people like you, we're all like, oh yeah, we've been doing it for a year or two. Yeah, I think that I really think that fecal transplants are gonna. What? Yeah, where they do fecal transplants, where they take a healthy donor and they actually insert

their feces into you and it helps repopulate your gut. I think that that is actually going to be, because it can actually reverse chronic diseases, like celiac disease, for example, can completely be reversed with that. You can just mention this now. Yeah, I know, right at the end. You're like, that's for the next show you see too yeah so wait so you're talking about ice plunges red light therapy which is I've heard many times and now you're like oh yeah there's that thing called fecal replacement yeah fecal transplants

yeah you could do it yeah you never heard oh I almost assume you heard of that that's why you're saying no keep now sorry everybody yeah yeah yeah so I thought we're gonna be done and then you just have to know That's why. Well you're saying, no, keep, now, sorry everybody. Yeah, yeah, but I thought we were going to be done and then you just have to. No, it's just, it's really, it's a really interesting, well they use it in hospitals for folks who get sick with C-Diff, that in which is really nasty infection. It can really get you really sick actually. And it's been shown successfully, right?

The nice thing is that it has the efficacy of antibiotics, but the thing with antibiotics is when you do one round with that infection, when you do another round with it, the efficacy of the antibiotics goes really down, whereas the efficacy of like the fecal transplant, how effective it is, is still up there. So it's really, it's really crazy. And what's it can poop from one person and putting it into someone else? In a very, in the most thorough way possible, yes. Yeah, it's a procedure. But you have to really screen the person. But it's something that is really happening. And it's going to... Where is this happening?

Yeah, you go to like different gastroenterologists and there's different ones that would do that if you're a candidate and if there's a healthy donor, but you have to have a healthy donor. Right, they have to be digestively in good shape but mentally in good shape because there's a connection between the microbiome and your mental status.

So imagine, imagine theoretically what gonna happen is, I take someone's poop, they put it in me and then all of a sudden I have anxiety disorder. Right, so you have to have a really specific thorough undertaking to find out who's poopier. Yeah. Holy crap. Yeah, literally.

Yeah, literally. So what's that? So what is it? Kids, you're saying it helps. This people do this if they need a stronger. If they're really sick. If they have digestive issues. I just like celiac disease.

I'd rather be sick, honestly, than have some shit in my mind. Really? It sounds. It's pretty gross. I'd rather be sick honestly than have some shit in my mouth. Really? It sounds... It's pretty gross, I know, I understand. But like medically, imagine one time, just one time, and you don't have celiac disease anymore. That's pretty incredible. It is actually quite... The microbiome is something that we have no idea about yet, but we're going to have a much better idea in 10 years when I come back and do my... Yeah, well first of all, to leave on that note. You know what I mean? It's kind of crazy. Please tell everybody where they can find you, Dr. G. Yeah, so I have the heal-dice self-show that's on iTunes and everything in between YouTube. On Instagram it's at doctor.g, doctr.g.

Man, I'm gonna be doing a lot of talks. There's a lot more media coming through. Yes, good. You should have a lot of media coming through. It's just so knowledgeable. Thank you for like championing my calls here. Absolutely. I appreciate that.

You should be championed because you're there. Like I'm telling you, you have like knowledge on some, that's a wide variety of things. It's a pleasure talking to you. Just a curiosity. Yeah. We should all be curious. That's, I agree, but not everybody is.

I know we need us. So we need people like you who can, who are like, who have like, who have not just an opinion, so you're not just flat line, like I said. But like, you can add people like you, who are, is a good source and a resource for people to learn from. Yeah. Because I think the problem is a lot of information, there's so much information out there that it's really important to know where you're getting your information from like, value sources. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. And I will say, I don't know if I am sweating from getting grilled or being on this treadmill, but one of the two, it's a good thing.

I get the blood flowing and I'm feeling good. I am very happy. So to press the white button, how many calories did you burn? I burned, um, let's see, hold on. Can you raise the treadmill? No, I actually don't need it for the treadmill. Okay, 244. Me too, exactly. 244? Yes! Wow. Well, you are a pleasure. Thank you. You're gonna come on, I hope to have you on regularly at that school. I'll be the regular in-house talk. Perfect, I love it.

Well thank you and go and follow him on Instagram. Yeah, I'll be there Instagram. I was like, I was like, I still think about the people thing. All right, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's's pleasure. This episode is brought to you by the YAP Media Podcast Network.

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