Habits and Hustle - Episode 540: David Reid: What 88 Nights at the Dead Sea Taught One Man About ORMUS & Shilajit

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Have you heard about the potency of Shilajit or ORMUS? Most people haven't but these two ancient substances have been used for thousands of years by indigenous communities, royal families and healers across the Himalayas and the Dead Sea. And the science behind why they work is something the modern health world is only beginning to catch up to. David Reid spent five years traveling the Himalayas, Peru, Egypt and the Dead Sea looking for answers. What he found led him to create Manna Vitality, a product built not in a lab but through years of living alongside the people and places that never lost touch with these ancient minerals. In this episode of Habits and Hustle, David breaks down why your body is likely missing the foundational ingredients that make everything else work and what two substances together can actually fix it at the cellular level. The most powerful minerals on earth were never hidden. They were just forgotten. Let's dive in. What's Discussed: How a 5-year global quest led to the creation of Manna Vitality. Why ORMUS alone is not enough and what happens when combined with Shilajit. The reason most supplements never reach the mitochondria and why Manna's does. The difference between 1,000mg of Shilajit vs. 125mg in most gummies. What’s between $20 and $2,000 per kilo Shilajit and how to tell them apart. How 600 local tribal workers spend 8 weeks a year harvesting Shilajit above 16,000 feet. How one athlete doubled his testosterone in 3 months taking Manna. Why hydration without minerals is just fluid and how Manna replaces your electrolytes. How to use Manna as a topical treatment for eczema, psoriasis, and as a face mask. Why Manna is not a supplement but an activator of your body's biophotonic electrical system. Thank you to our sponsors! Rho Nutrition: Go to www.RhoNutrition.com and try Rho's Liposomal Glutathione. Use code JEN20 for 20% off sitewide. Momentous: Ready to try supplements that actually do what they claim? Head to livemomentous.com and use code JEN for 35% off your first subscription. That's code JEN at www.livemomentous.com Therasage: Visit www.therasage.com and use code JEN to get 15% off your order. Your skin deserves this level of care. Air Doctor: Head to AirDoctorPro.com and use promo code HUSTLE to get UP TO $300 off today! AirDoctor comes with a 30-day money back guarantee, plus a 3-year warranty—an $84 value, free! Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Fatty15: Use code HABITS for 10% off at www.fatty15.com Therasage; Visit Therasage.com and use code JEN to get 15% off your order. Your skin deserves this level of care. Find more from Jen:  Website: https://jennifercohen.com Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: https://jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: https://jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagements Find more from Manna Vitality:  Website: https://mannavitality.com Instagram: @mannavitality Facebook: Manna Vitality

Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus. When your goal is health span, living better and longer, there are very few non-negotiables. One of them, quality. And when it comes to supplements designed for high performers, nobody does it better than Momentus. Momentus goes all in on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dietitians across the country. Here's the thing. They don't sell every supplement under the sun because they believe in nailing the basics with rock

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are of this extraordinary natural, I don't even call it a supplement. I say a natural, what would you even call it, David? It's an activator. An activator. I love that word. Right before we started, I was telling David that I think people are kind of getting a little fatigued from like over supplementing. And what is so amazing about mana is that it's so it's all natural. And the benefits are like, I mean, you can check it yourself. Are extraordinary. So I want to talk about your story, David. Introduce beyond like your name, who you are, why, you know, why you're actually here and your whole, you know, the evolution of like how, you know, how this whole thing happened with found you know kind of finding this company being the founder of such a

potent product etc and you know just who you are so thank you for being here thanks Jennifer it's always a gift to be in your presence and uh please yeah manner is really started very differently to a lot of other health and wellness businesses and what i mean by that is i actually um went on a quest of self-discovery myself, which led me to a whole bunch of different places around the planet, like the Himalayas, like Peru, like the Middle East, like Egypt. And along that journey, I was in a very open space and ended up meeting a lot of local people, royal families and indigenous people that introduced me to different substances that had been used for thousands of years. And I was traveling around for five or six years. And I was traveling around for,

five or six years and had some big questions that I was looking for answers for myself. But along that way, when I was exposed to these different substances that were mainly around like anti-aging and longevity and fountain of youth and all these kind of big exotic terms at the time. Big buzzwords. Yeah. And when I was finished that and I was actually at the Dead Sea sleeping for 88 nights on the bank of the sea with nothing except.

myself and one of my good friends, Marty. And that was a whole kind of journey to get there. But I was introduced to the mineral kingdom in a new way, meaning the Dead Sea is the most mineral concentrated solution on the planet. So spending a lot of time getting in the water, sun-gazing, reading some sacred text. And through that journey, really understanding that minerals are so important for our biology because we are water and minerals. And it's the minerals that are providing that conductivity. So it was at that point where I had a mentor of mine saying, you know, why don't you create a product from everything that you've learnt? And I thought to myself, what would that product be? Like all these substances have come across, what are the ones

that I could take to people or share with people that would have the most impact? And it was really two substances, and they were shilogit from the high mountains in the Himalayas, and then Ormus, made from ocean plasma, from the Dead Sea. And the combination of those two are not just minerals, but they're also amino acids, enzymes, tritopines, something really powerful called fulvic acid, which we can get into a little bit. So what the combination of those raw materials is doing is really raising the body's cell membrane potential and raising the voltage. And it's actually getting nutrients into the mitochondria. And the mitochondria is what produces the ATP, which is the electrical potential.

So what kind of made you realize that it was ocean plasma and shillazte and that combination that was doing such miracle work on the body in the first place? Like did you just fall upon something, like did you fall upon it one day and you saw some major changes? Like how did it kind of unravel itself? Yeah, it happened over years. But it didn't happen in a lab. You know, like, many times people are like, oh, you know, this A plus B equals C, let's like test it in a lab and then, you know, that's not what happened.

Yeah, it was about 15 years ago that I really became fascinated in the fact that the body was a saltwater, that were saltwater beings. and I was understanding that a lot of people were deficient. They were mineral deficient. How did you figure that out, though? Just because, you know, I remember one big part was a study by the Department of Agriculture in the US actually that said our food has 90% less minerals in them now than they did 100 years ago because the soil has 90% less minerals in it now than it did 100 years ago. So that translates to, you know, you have to eat 10 apples to get the same nutrients as you did from one apple. So, yeah, it just kind of made sense to me that we needed more minerals.

And it wasn't until I was actually at the Dead Sea and doing a lot of fasting and getting in the water. I actually saw minerals in a totally different way, which it gets a little bit esoteric. Because I was studying physics and advanced mathematics at the time, and I could see the minerals as vortexes. the atoms of the minerals as vortexes. The different minerals had like different energetic signatures. And so it was important to get all of them into the body and then trust in the body's intelligence to actually take what it needs and discard the rest. But if the body's only getting, say, 20% of the minerals that it needs, it's going to be compromised in its expression, like in its biological functioning, it's going to be compromised. One way I,

I used to think of it is like keys on a piano. This is like 88 keys on a grand piano. There's 88 minerals that our body requires. And you imagine if your piano or keyboard only had like eight keys to play a song. So you could still play the song. The song would still be cool. But if you've got 88 keys, you're going to be able to play like this harmony and this symphony that has all these other notes and expressions.

And our biology is a frequency. It is playing a song. So if we've got access to all those keys, we're going to be able to play a song that's not compromised. So, you know, the Dead Sea has been, it's very famous for so many of, like, amazing health benefits, right? People do fly there from all over the world just to float, right? Did you get this from that experience? Did you notice some truly miraculous benefit while you were in the Dead Sea? because you were living there, I mean, beside there for so long.

Like, I know I was in Israeli when people, like, it's extraordinary what it does for your skin. It's extraordinary. Like, the minerals are so nutrient dense, right? I know that from my background. Did you only kind of realize that in real time? And they were like, oh, my God, the whole world needs to kind of experience what this is. To answer your question about people going there and getting healed, there was people coming there in busloads. Yeah, in bus those, I'm telling you.

Especially from Russia. Really? Of all places, yeah. But from all around the world, Germany, Europe. And I spoke to a lot of them because often at nighttime I'd go up to the kibbutz to get something to eat. Yeah. And there'd be groups of people sitting around and people would go there with like with really bad joint pain as an example. That was the one thing I remember.

That's a big one. Yeah. Joint pain. Yeah. Yeah. And they would go there for say three or four weeks and the entire time they're at the Dead Sea, the joint pain would go away. They would go home and three, four, five months later, it would slowly keep coming back and then it would be totally back. And so they'd come back for an annual trip and that was relieving their joint pain. And that was one example. There was lots of different examples. Give me another example. Well, there was more serious diseases. that people were going there and getting cured from. Like what?

Whether it was cancers, Parkinson's was another example. Really? Yeah, a whole heap of different skin ailments. There was... Oh, the skin for sure. So you take these samples, and like, the, like, mana is not just ocean plasma, though. It's also shillogy. Yes.

Right? So, like, it's not like you just, because it's not like you were, It's not like you took a, you went to the bottom of the ocean and scoop some of the stuff and then put it into like little jars and sold it, right? What like, what did you do? You took the samples and then what happens? Because then you have to make thousands and thousands and thousands of parcels with it. And then you're mixing it with something else.

Like, why did you even mix it? Like if it was so, if the healing properties were so extensive just at the Dead Sea, couldn't that just be like what the, like that, resin, can that just be the liquid? So to answer your question, why was it like amplifying the effect? So fulvic acid, fulic acid is, it transports nutrients at the nanoscale. So it activates minerals, breaks them down into a smaller particle size so they can get into the mitochondria.

Remember the mitochondria. Yeah. So you needed that shillagit or that phallivic that's in the shillaget to break. down the or what you call it? Yes, ormos. To make it more effective to get penetrated into your body. Exactly. So that's why Shilajit's so powerful,

especially our Shilajit, because it has the highest percentage of fulvic acid on the planet. But when you then go and combine this concentrated ormous with that, so most supplements, most supplements never get to the mitochondria because they can't get through the membranes. Yeah, now I understand. So there's not only the cellular membrane,

There's the mitochondrial membrane. So let's say a cell has a thousand mitochondria inside of it. And so most supplements are never getting to that mitochondria. And the mitochondria, remember, is producing the ATP, which is the electrical potential. It's not only doing that, it's regulating our metabolism, it's regulating our hormones, it's regulating our genetic signaling, it's regulating our intercellular communication. Yeah. So fulvic acid is like as this nutrient transporter at a nanoscale, it's like nature's nanotechnology. It's only one to two nanometers in length.

So wait, so without the shilogy or the fulvic and you just took like the ormiss by itself, right? It would never be as effective, right? So why are more people not, this is what I never understood. There's no one else really doing it. Like wouldn't someone else have figured this out or like copied you or done something with this? Because you have a lot of products on the market that are shilogy, right? I haven't seen any Ormus by the way, but I have seen a lot of shiloggi. Why have they not like used that, like, why have they not done the combination? Is it too expensive? That's a good question.

I think, I think it's like, it's such a journey for me to kind of figure. this out and come across this. How long did it take? I think, I was having meetings on this at Expo West yesterday and I believe in the future people will add folic acid to every formulation. They are already, I feel. Because it's that nutrient transporter. So when they also understand like that trace minerals are upregulating membrane potential in the cell. And again, the charge the voltage of that membrane potential decides whether nutrients can come in and toxins can come out. So you can be eating the best diet in the world. You can be taking the best supplements in the world, but if they're not getting into the mitochondria, the mitochondria which controls

the cell can't do anything. It's going to start acting in isolation, which means it's not going to bring nutrients in and it's not going to remove toxins. So that's why you'll get people that have these amazing diets, but if they don't have the voltage and the cell, you'll be cell membrane potential, they can still get diseased. They can still be unhealthy because there's no transport mechanism through the membrane. So you need the folvic acid to transport. You need the folvic acid or you need like nanotechnology. You need small particle sizes. I mean, there is other ways to cross cell membranes like with charge and size and shape. So gold as an example is the nutrient that we haven't discussed, but it's the third one that we use at mana.

So gold... That's the one I'd have all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So gold, when it's in a nanoparticle size of between 10 and 30 nanometers, can also cross... The blood brain barrier and cell membranes. So it can interact at the cellular level. And gold can hold light. It's the only substance that can hold all the waveforms of light from the sun.

Wow. Yeah. This is so interesting. But I still don't understand why more people have not caught on and like kind of copying you or doing different companies with it. Yeah, I think it's just the timing thing. Like I said yesterday. I didn't see one company at Expo West doing it, not one. I didn't even see any Shilogy companies actually now that I think about it.

it. Although I know you can buy like shillazette supplements, but, and if you actually tested those shillazute supplements, you know, in fact, someone was telling me they took them to the lab. There's like 0.01% of shillazate in the, in the capital. Yeah, because it's expensive. Yeah. And it's hard to get. Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard to get. The good stuff. The good stuff. For above 16,000 feet, yeah. So how do you get it? Like, what's your process? I mean, I don't want to like ruin all, like, tell your secrets, but like, how do you do this whole thing? No, I actually don't. I actually don't mind telling it all because I'm not, I'm not competitive in that way. I think of things as, I think of things as collaborative.

So like, again, in these meetings yesterday, I actually want like tens of thousands of companies to figure this out and get it out there. Because, Marner, we can't supply this to everybody. But like, I want everyone to have access to these minerals. I want to take a quick break from this episode to thank our sponsor, Therisage. Their trite panel has become my favorite biohacking thing for healing my body. It's a portable red light panel that I simply cannot live without. I literally bring it with me everywhere I go. And I personally use their red light therapy to help reduce inflammations and places in my body where honestly I have pain. You can use it on a sore back, stomach cramps, shoulder, ankle. Red light therapy is my go-to. Plus, it also has a anti-aging benefits, including reducing signs of fine lines and wrinkles on your face, which I also use it for. I personally use Therisage trilight everywhere and all the time. It's small, it's affordable, it's portable, and it's really effective. Head over to Therisage.com right now and use code

be bold for 15% off. This code will work sitewide. Again, head over to Therisage, T-H-E-R-A-S-A-G-E dot com, and use code B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-D for 15-% off any of their products. The whole process is not so easy. You created a liquid. How much do you need of it? Like, how did you figure out the amount that someone needs? You know, they mean like, what would people feel if they started to take something like this every day? And by the way, this is not a commercial, you guys.

I know it sounds like it, but like David is so passionate about this. And like it is something that is like this natural residue that has such like extraordinary benefits that I really thought it was important to kind of explain this because it is something that's not like just another omega three. You know what I mean? Like it's one of these things that actually can really optimize your health in a natural way, really. And how else would people get this stuff? Like I want to know all that stuff. Yeah, so we put a thousand milligrams of shillijit in every dose, which is very, very high. What are most people do what they had? Like in those capsules I was talking about. Yeah, so gummies, 125 milligrams. And that's what they tell you. That's what they tell you, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you need eight gummies just to get to a thousand milligrams. And the thousand milligrams we'll use is resin. It's not a powder with fillers in it. like it's resin from above 16,000 feet. So I'll give you some context.

Yeah, please explain because I think people, this is the where people get confused. I did for a long time. Like not all is created equal, right? It is very different. Yes. Okay. Yeah, so you can buy Shilajit from $10,

let me actually, let's say $20 a kilo to $2,000 a kilo. Wow. Okay. So, and the best way to test it is your test for amino acids, you test for protein content, and you test for fulvic acid. So most shillogy it will have between 8 and 20% fulic acid. Ours is 88%. Wow. Ours has all 20 amino acids. Ours has zero heavy metals. So again, because it's from such high altitude, which makes it incredibly hard to get. How do you get it? Yeah. So you can only really get it

for about eight weeks of the year, which is July and August, because the rest of the year, it's under the snow. So the last two seasons, we've employed 600 people to go out and collect Shilajit. How much? How many people? 600. God. Okay. Wow. Yeah. From the local tribes. And we get it from three different locations now because the business is grown. And how do you extract it? What does it look like when you extract it? Yes, it's always different. Sometimes you'll actually find clumps of the resin, but more often than not, it's mixed in with rock and sand, and they've literally got to put that in a sack, carry it back down to the processing center.

Wow. Where it's cleaned with purified water, and then you heat it at low temperature to cause a separation, then you put it through a filter, and you repeat that process until you end up with a black resin. Wow. That's a hard product to make, to produce. Extremely hard, extremely difficult.

So just talk about for a second, before you being into the Ormus, I want you to like name the top six benefits of Shilajit alone. Go. So energy, ATP production, metabolism, focus, recovery, longevity, hormone replacement. So cellular charge. Cellular charge, okay. I thought hydration was one of those too. Definitely. Yeah, definitely. So I think of hydration as conductivity, I think it is cellular voltage, energy, and longevity. That's what hydration is to me. Like hydration is not just about drinking water without minerals. That's just fluid. But water with minerals is conductivity. So instead of using like, you know, electrolytes are massive right now, instead of using these shitty electrolytes that are like literally it's like sugar and crap yeah in these little can't they just use

like a sashay of mana in their water and that would act as an electrolyte 100% if i have a skin issue yes and i if i can i if i don't drink it and just put it on my skin would that help like you know when you go to the dead sea and you people lie there and they then take the mud and they put the mud on on their skin i'm sure you saw that a ton if you're I did that with the sashay, what would happen? Yeah, I mean... You don't recommend it, or do you? Yeah, you can.

Both Shillaget and Ormus have been used topically. So the Ormus would be amazing because of the magnesium for your skin. The Shillajit... Well, the combate... I only have those sachets, let's say. Yeah. So they just, like, opened it and went like that on my skin. Yeah, so people use...

For eczema or psoriasis. Yep, it'll help with all of that. People use it as facetheets. Face masks, people use it in their hair. The indigenous used to do that. There's like, it's documented. So I can just use it as a beauty product. Correct.

Yeah. There's so much data on the properties of how healing this stuff is. And I know you created something that is at like a level of integrity and quality that most people would never do, which is why I wanted, this is a great platform because It's so good for people to have this and incorporate this into their, like, routine. Because it's not just, you know, another, like, you know, conversation on saunas, cold plunges, you know, whatever the supplement of the day is, creatine. You know what I mean? I think this is a really, this really does, like, change and alter your health at a deep level.

100%. You know? If you look at the biology as, you know, photonic superconductor, or a photonic, biophotonic electrical system, when we give it the correct inputs and it can upgrade itself, then this isn't just a supplement. It's an activator. An activator. I know you said that earlier.

It's so true. Where can they get more? I mean, there's been so much information. But if you want more, like they can go check out mona vitality, you know, mono, and they can read all about it. But thank you for being on the show coming here from all the way from Australia. Do you have anything else you want to include in this episode? No, I think we've covered a lot. You think?

Yeah. I appreciate your time and curiosity as always. Very curious because I, like I just said it, but I really love this product. I take it every day, you know, begrudgingly because I don't love the taste. I'm not going to lie, but it's so good for you. So thank you, David. I hope you're going to make the Laker game or no, you're not going to do it next week. you're going to do it. I hope I'm going to make it as well. Yeah, I've been wanting to go to a

Lakers game my whole life. I know. Okay, let's wrap it. Okay, one more thing. For those of you who have not yet subscribed, if you're watching this on YouTube, please subscribe and leave a comment because comments help the algorithm. So I always forget to say that. So I'm saying it now. And with that, I will say goodbye. Have a great one.