Habits and Hustle - Episode 59: Michael Beckwith – New Thought Minister, Founder of the Agape International Spiritual Center

Episode Date: April 14, 2020

Michael Beckwith is a New Thought Minister, an author, and the Founder of the Agape International Spiritual Center. He joins us on today’s episode of Habits and Hustle to discuss how he started out as a drug dealer in the 70s before hearing the call of spirituality. Beckwith is well-known in the metaphysical teaching space, but the Secret brought him on, Oprah. He talks about true manifestation and how it’s when you actually change, our character changes, and you become more authentic and a better version of yourself. This episode is perfect for all the craziness going on in the world right now. Youtube Link to this Episode Michael’s Website Michael’s Instagram ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He is a very renowned spiritual teacher. He's one of the OGs, really. You've been doing this before, you know, it became cool and popular. And he is the founder of a Gapay International Spiritual Center, right? And some of you know him or wouldn't maybe know him because he was very much affiliated with Oprah Winfrey. You've been like part of her soul program. Super soul 100 and Super Soul Sunday. Super Soul Sunday, that was it.

And I remember you because you used to have these long, long locks of hair. It would be like, dreads kind of. They would lock you. They would go down to my back, actually. Right. Right down here. Oh, wow, yes. And like, you've had them for that long.

So that's what I, like, you were, what you looked like visually was so like, it was so unique that I remember you when I was, I must have been like, what, 14, 15 years old. And you were on, you were on, I think a bunch of times I felt like back then, right? And then the secret, you're also very known from the secret. So did you create the law of attraction? Was that your particular piece? No, no, no, no, the law of attraction is a law.

It's a law. No one created it. I thought the secret was kind of what made it famous though. Your secret brought it to the masses. Oh, okay. It's been taught for years. You know, it was a metaphysical principle. And so you're a role that,

because they had a few experts who kind of came on, it came in the book and they were very, they had their own kind of like, their whole like lame, so to speak. What was your lame in the secret? My lame was more the spiritual take of it. It was more getting into the feeling of your essential self and the feeling of your connectedness.

And then your personal law would change. And then things would manifest easier. So it was more, it was not as much materialistic as it was, this look inside and see who we are and begin to develop that. Is that what kind of kind of brought you more to the masses back then? Because the secret became like such a huge success, right? Yeah. And so let's start from the beginning.

Like how did you even get down this road of being a spiritual leader or a teacher, whatever you want to guru, whatever the word of the day is, right? Well, actually many years ago, I was attending USC as a psychobiology major. I was on a track to go to med school. And I began to have a series of inner experiences that at the time, I labeled pathological because I was seeing visions. I was leaving my body a lot, traveling, hearing voices, was being guided. I didn't tell anybody because I thought

I was going crazy. And so the first thing I did was stop smoking weed. Yeah. This is gonna be the weed, right? You just, I would imagine that would, that's what I would be. So the experience is intensified. And it culminated with,

every night it had the same dream in which these three men were chasing me, but I always wake up in time before they would catch me. Then one day, I'm losing it in the dream. I'm awake in the dream. Then one day I said, these guys can't hurt me. I look around and there's a small tent

and there's thousands of people trying to get into this small tent, but I knew every single person in line. So I said, they can't hurt me. My friends are with me. So one by one, everyone turned their back on me. Two of them in, held me down and one plunged the knife into my heart. The pain was excruciating physically and emotionally and I screamed and I died. When I woke up, I could see that we were surrounded by this presence of what I named love beauty. I didn't use the word God. I was kind of atheistic at the time.

And so I could see that everything was glittering and shining with this luminosity and the beauty was immense and the love was so profound. And so I had to go on a search to discover what had happened to me. And then that bumped me back into meditation and bumped me into the Perennial religion is taught by all of the spiritual teachers. And I realized something was happening to me. And then my course of life changed from where I thought I was going to actually deeper exploration into our spiritual nature. And then one day my mother took me to this metaphysical church. And I said, Mom, I'm not going to know church. I can just go to wreck. I don't need all that. And she said, just come with me. So I go in, this guy, Dr. Daniel Morgan, is speaking.

And he said, Heaven and Hell are merely places through states of consciousness. And I said, he's right. I said, they're actually saying something real in a church. Wow. And so I sat there and I realized that what he was saying metaphysically was what I was experiencing. So I began to study, practice, study, practice,

had more and more insights. I lost all my friends, everybody thought I was crazy. Right, so how old were you? You must have been 18, 19, if you were 18, I was in my early 20 Everybody thought I was crazy. Right. So how old are you? You must have been 1890 if you were in early 20s. 20, okay. Yeah. And then so you you were not like a spiritual person prior to that because you were you were young. I was more revolutionary. Right. You know, when you change the world by any means necessary, I was a part of black workers, Congress, fill it with the black panthers. You were. Yeah, they were all working together.

And so what did you think that way? So because you're not, I mean, to my knowledge, you're not crazy. But what did I see so far? But so back then, you had these very vivid dreams. What does that mean that you feel like there's some bigger power that's kind of, does that mean that you feel like there's some bigger power that's kind of your like a vessel so to speak for like a bigger power that you're going to get

a message out? Is that more or less? We all are. You know, we're all, what are you talking about? I was talking to me or giving me any kind of a little answer. You're hearing it in your own way. I don't know, I mean maybe, but maybe, maybe it's so suppressed, I don't know. Maybe you're teaching to help me because I haven't felt it yet.

But do you feel that there are certain people who just have that gift where a higher power does talk to them or speak with them in some way? Well, I think that everyone has gifts. Everybody's gifts are different. Right. So some people are very sensitive to the invisible or what we would call the inaudible, the very sensitive to it. People can develop it. I don't believe they're special people. But you're more sensitive to it. I became very sensitive to it. And then the

deepening of my meditation practice made me more available to it. I could have just shut it off. You know, and say, this is crazy. This is nuts. I don't want to be a part of this. But I surrendered to it. I said, okay. You know, I was, you know, when I go a little deeper, you know, when I was at SC, I was actually selling weed to help pay for my tuition. Wow. And so I got crazy. I know it. I got busted on my last deal. On my last deal, because I said, I'm not doing this anymore. This is not my destiny. And I'm going to the whole story behind it,

but I got busted with hundreds of pounds of marijuana. tremendous with guns and money. You? Yeah. Oh my gosh. And so. So you were like a drug dealer. Yeah, I was. Like a big one.

Yeah, that was pretty good. If you have guns and pounds of weed, you're not exactly just one of those like, you know, I was a little kid. When I started off just selling a little bit just for my friends and then it got big. So I had people working for me in DC. It was my board. In National, in Nashville, LA. You?

Yes. So you were like a drug morgue. I was pretty interesting. But you were so young. How did you even get this is more interesting? How did you even get to that level? Like how did that be more interesting? Start a little small, you said that.

Start getting more and more bricks, keys, and then I just got bigger and bigger. I was very entrepreneurial. It's apparently. And so I got busted and- How many pounds did you get busted? Probably, I had about 100 keys, about a little over 200 pounds. And so were they tracking you or how did they? Someone, I think Tommy, someone told me.

Someone got in trouble and then gave me up. Oh my God. And so I'm sitting there and so anyway, I've already had the told me, someone got in trouble and gave me up. Oh my God. And so I'm sitting there and so anyway, I've already had the spirit of awakening, okay? And so they told me, the inner voice said, you're going to walk away free, nothing. It's not going to be anything that happens to you. So I go to court, I mean my suit, last year of USC, the police officers came in, they were all shabby and unshaven. I was clean, looking good. And the next time we came to court, they were all dressed up.

But they didn't turn it all the way. They didn't turn it all the guns. They kept some from themselves. But they turned in enough to make a case against me. They kept some for themselves. Isn't that interesting? We had a German luger, the handcuffed pearl handle that I was collecting, they kept kept it you never got turned into evidence

You know, but this is this is be so correct. That's a whole other part of it. It's a whole another thing Oh my god, what a corrupt system right there. I could tell you all the things that happened at that time was all corrupt When they arrested me in the house They took me off the street and brought me to the house where the drugs were and then they said is this year as I said I don't live here. I don't know what you're talking about. It took me down to the police station, handcuffed me, got a search warrant, then came back and put me in the house and arrested me. Oh, did you have a lawyer? Yeah, I had a lawyer, but none of that counted because they looked like they'd followed. Right. Like they were, like they were, like it was systematic.

But so I'm sitting in court. They told me I was gonna walk away free. They're the inner voice. I mean, I'm in court meditating. Just reading books, I don't even care about the case. Because I already know I'm gonna walk. My friend's saying, you're gonna go to jail and the feds want you for the guns. You better leave the country. I said, no, I'm going free.

So everybody thought I was nuts. Right. I'm gonna fuck that. So I'm sitting in court. My attorney was Harry Weiss. His assistant was Robert Shapiro. Oh my God, this is amazing. What a great story.

I was expecting this. So I'm sitting there with Shapiro. What's his assistant? Yes. He was, Robert Shapiro was a young guy. He was a young attorney. And so we're sitting there and this police officer that wasn't even on the scene.

He was a motorcycle cop. They said, why did you go to Mr. Beckwood's house? He said, well, we got an informant said that there was a drug deal going down. So we got a search warrant, we staked out the house, we saw him bringing the drugs, and then we arrested him. No, that was true, but it didn't matter. So at that time, Robert Shapiro jumps up,

and he said, that's hearsay evidence. We demand that the informant come forward and stand before the accused, or we ask that this case be thrown out. So the judge said, brought all the attorneys together and said, you have three days to produce the informant. So three days later, we show back up court,

and the prosecutor says the informant is afraid for his life. He will not show up. And the judge said, Mr. Beckwith, I have no other recourse but the set you free. I hope I never see you in my courtroom again. And you got off. I walked, I said, Judge, you will never see me here again. So I went home. There was a weather vein going in the direction of the wind. I looked at the weather vein and I said, God, if this means what I think it means, I went that weather vein to point in my direction. And before I could get the words out of my mouth, the weather vein turned right at me. I just started crying.

I just surrendered to my life to my new destiny, which was the spiritual path. Wow. And then you never look back. And then you never look back. You never got high again. Never drank. Never drank. One time.

One time. When? No. No, no. As well, a few years later, my cousins came to visit me and they were smoking a joint. I didn't really, I hid it just for community pleasure. You were right, right.

It brought me down. And they realized that I was expanded and when I smoked the marijuana my consciousness shrunk and I felt I felt like, well, worry in doubt and fitfulness and all stuff that people feel. I said, oh no, I'm never doing this again. Never have never done it again. Oh my God. So now you're, wow, that's a great story actually. Yes, so that taught me surrender. I actually just surrendered and moved forward. Okay, so now you're, wow, that's a great story actually. Yeah, so that taught me surrender. I actually just surrendered and moved forward

So then so how okay, so then whatever what year was that about? Poof. That was that was probably like you know time 70s so then how did you start making money from this right away because you were making money all from the drugs right? Yeah, and it's because you had the spiritual awakening and when I say make my head, you make it into an actual career, right? Well, there's steps before that. Right, so I wanna see, I'm curious how,

because you thought everyone thought you were nuts, right? Yeah, all my friends left except for one, who believed what I was saying, and he came on the path with me. Because also back then, again, like I keep on emphasizing this, it's not like today where you have so many like copycats who are all these quote unquote spiritual leaders who basically are just, you know,

who basically just come and pasting from back when when it was when, you know, other people stuff. But like, how did it become something? Well, that's I meant by a career. This is what happened. One thing I was sitting in my living room and I said, how am I going to make a living? Yeah, that's what I mean.

How are you going to? The phone rang. It was this lady named Sheila. And she said, I found your phone number in our annual in high school. And something told me to call you that you could help me. So she would start to share her dark secrets and wanted me to assist her spiritually, and I did, and she would send me donations. So that was the beginning of my path. I saw her a number of months later in a restaurant. She never called me again because she was

embarrassed by all the things she had told me, but when she spoke to me, it was anonymous, like, other person on the line. But then I realized I had a block number. My number's not in any high school annual. It's been two years ago. So I just figured that was a sign. That's the path I'm gonna walk in. So anyway, when I went to that church,

they had a path for spiritual, practitioner, spiritual therapist. So I went down that path and spiritual practitioners, spiritual therapists. Okay. So I went down that path and that's what I became. What is that? What does that mean? That means that you're trained in affirmative prayer. You're trained in looking at people and seeing the beauty and the gifts and the power in them and he'll pull it out.

You can help them transcend their pathology. So we're trained to do that. So you're kind of trained to find people's intent in life basically? Yes. Their purpose, their intention, because most people are focused on what's wrong with them. Yeah, that's right. In regular therapy, that's right. Yeah, so we focus on what's right with them and then shift the energy. So I became a therapist and I saw six to eight people every single day, from five, six days a week.

Right. I ran a prayer ministry. I taught at the University of Metaphysics. And not the University of Metaphysics, it was the University of Higher Consciousness who was the Ernest Holmes College. And I eventually went through the school myself, took me five years to go through a three-year program.

Because I wasn't interested in graduating. Right, right, right, right. Just like taking classes, right. And subsequently, I was called to start a community. I didn't want to do it. I liked my weekends off. I was doing what I was doing. I was doing workshops, the way people are doing now. I was doing workshops the way people are doing now.

I was doing workshops and seminars in my living room. I was seeing people every day. This is like 30 years ago, right? Yes, it's longer than 30 years in Goppe. Goppe is in its 34th year. So this was like 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 years ago. And like back then, you obviously took the, you became a. Well, I was in, like, back then, how, like, you obviously took the, you became a spiritual therapist.

How many people were doing that back then? There were practitioners, but we were one of the first to actually make it a real career. Right. You know, it was, and now, at Agape, we have a couple of hundred. Right, because I know, when I, so I, you know,

basically I met Mike, I met Michael at a place called Rhythmia in Costa Rica a few weeks ago. Are you partners at Rhythmia? Rhythmia is like an ayahuasca retreat, right? Life enhancements. Life enhancements that is licensed to do ayahuasca. If you do the meditation, they do my class, they do the breath work, the massage, the food that you ate, the yoga, and I wasca, I wasca's optional.

So I wasca's optional, right? So it's based on life advancement center. And you have like a partnership. Well, what happened was the founder came to me, but when he was an addict, he was in passages. And every week they would say, do you guys wanna go to the the mall or do you want to go

to this place called the Goppe? He always shows the mall. And one day he said, let me see what this Goppe thing is all about. So it comes in and hears me speak. And he starts coming back every week. And then we get the chance to know each other. And I worked with him, along with his therapist, Jeff. And I signed one of my ministers to work with him.

And one day he took a boga. A boga is stronger than masculine. It's masculine. I'll ask us feminine. And boga is masculine. And he had this big opening. These are psychedelics, by the way, for people who don't know. These are basically, it's plant medicine, but it's psychedelic and it's supposed to be

very helpful. And this is a whole different podcast. Yeah, these are basically it's plant medicine. Yes, but it's psychedelic and it's supposed to be very Um helpful, and this is like a whole different podcast. I was a bit Helpful with people who have addiction right obviously like the founder that you're talking about Yeah, he was he was he was a multi-millionaire and he had access to all these drugs right So when he gets takes this aboga he comes to me and he says They show me that everything you're talking about is true And I said you're right. I know everything. I said, you're right, no, everything I'm saying is true. All right, you're like, I know that. He says, oh my God.

So he had some other physical issues. I helped him through it, God healed. And he had this vision that he wanted to start a life advancement center that had plant medicine and all these other modalities, meditation, yoga. So a person can go there for a week and actually make a meaningful change. So my program is licensed there. Right, so I was going to say, so basically why I brought him up, why I brought Rizmi up right now, was because as a spiritual therapist, then you started your own program of community,

and then you were teaching other people to be licensed spiritual therapists under you. And then reason why I brought it. So there are people having how many therapists you have under you now? And a lot of it. We have roughly 200. So what's the prerequisite? Can anyone be it or do they have to feel like a sensitive, also?

Well, you basically start off with the basic classes. Okay. Anybody can take those. The entire congregation takes those classes. They just basic classes on self-enhancing how to meditation, affirmative prayer, life visioning, finances, relationships. There's a way to apply the principles of every area of your life. Then if you feel that this is your calling, once you've taken the prerequisites,

then you enter into the practitioner training. That's a two-year program. A two-year program. Okay, so I'm sorry, I didn't mean to like digress here. So here we are. So now your spiritual therapist, what point then did the secret happen? What point did you become with Oprah?

Like was Oprah before the secret, or the secret before Oprah? I came on Oprah because of the secret. Because of the secret. And then you became kind of a... I was pretty known within the metaphysical community. Right. And people who were already aware of this kind of thing, within the secret and then Oprah,

a lot more people would become aware of me around the world. So how long were you a spiritual teacher and before you've got the secret? Seven years. Oh, before the secret. Oh, it's much longer than that. A gope was probably moved over here. Probably in its 10th year.

So it's teaching about 10 years. Also 10 years. So you were becoming very well known in that space. So how do you help people? I'm quite I'm curious. What how do you Help people find their true intention in life? What's what do you do because obviously you're doing the opposite like you said a normal therapist do you're finding what's good in someone pulling Yeah, the traditional therapy depending on what lens they're looking at, you know, Freudian, or Cheri, whatever it is, their attention is on the pathology and finding the event in someone's life in which something trauma happened. You know, become aware of it. There's

nothing wrong with that because when you come self-aware of that, you can also transcend it. What we do is we bring the person to what is essential and real about them, which is their spiritual nature. All problems are mental and emotional, but all true healing is all spiritual. That means ultimately you're coming back to your real nature before the trauma. So through meditation, through affirmative prayer, through certain technology exercises. What's affirmative prayer? Is that like gratitude or positive, like speak positive talk to yourself?

This positive talk, it's really you develop a certain connection with the presence and then you are seeking to have a what is called a realization that what you're saying is true. So it's not just words, words can't heal anything. Right. It's actually a connection that heals. So affirmative prayers, the opposite of begging on God out there. It's like, God, please help me.

That helps sometimes. You get an accident in an alignment and you get some help. But affirmative prayer is actually, it's based on the awareness that we're connected. We're not separate from the presence. And we start to work to have an inner realization that everything we would want in our life,

we already have it, a feeling of that. And then we're guided to be and to do what's necessary to bring that about. You know, so it's a radical change. Now in the process of that, you may remember your traumas. You may remember the bad things that happened to you. But they're in a bigger field of your awareness. It's not who you are.

Like things happen to people. They actually identify as that thing. I'm a survivor of this. This is who I am. But that's not who they are. That's an experience that they had. So we reframe it. So they realize it was an experience.

There's a lesson in that experience. There's something you can learn from that experience, but that's not who you are. How do you do that, though? Do people who come in, do they have to have a certain belief system already, so it actually penetrates and works? It does help.

It helps, but it doesn't. You know, I don't see as many people now because I have all these people I've trained. Oh, no, of course, right. But normally a person would come in, I could listen. I could see what world they're living in, what their beliefs are, and then I could begin to take that world apart, you know, and show them

that that world they're living in, these are the thoughts that are coming from that world and that thoughts are creating your perception and experience and then I'll slowly bring them into a higher order of their being. You know, I've seen healings, I mean, so many over the years. The best thing that happens for me when I see people, when I first meet them and they're like down and out or whatever see them a couple years later and they're like on their path confident self-loving It just really opens really makes me feel good. I can just see the transformation Right, see the transformation

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I was too. Yeah, you're right exactly and I'm all about like you do this to get that like it's about you know hustling to get what you know not to you know hoax you but like you have to like this hustle right that's not, you're not at all. I mean, the drug, you're a drug lord for crying out loud. You're a hussle all your life, and you hustle for many, many years before you became this spiritual guru. But like the whole idea for me is like,

I couldn't wrap my head around it. And a lot of people I know couldn't wrap their head around it because it's very like, like I said, airy, fairy. You know what it did? The secret just opened up for people to see a greater possibility. That's yeah. That they're not controlled by their circumstances

and on a victim to situations. And it allowed people to find other pathways in the metaphysical genre to find what worked for them. And give people hope, I think, too. Hope is better than a lack of it. Well, I think hope also is a great way for people. When people have no hope, they have nothing, right? That's when people really say nothing. Nothing. So you've got to give them that feeling of hope. But I think that for me, what I saw, that was more, what it did, because it was obviously one of the most popular. It was the biggest seller metaphysical movie in history,

and it's still in it. It still is, of all time. And it still sells. Of all time. I go to different countries now, and people have just seen it. Oh, I don't know. One person doesn't know that the seat,

I'm surprised you just saw it. The seatbelt has been, I mean, I don't know what the person is. And the first one of the generation is starting to watch it. Their parents are giving it to their teens. Well, because you know what I'm saying? They are.

Because also, it cuts to today's time. There are people who are still using the same modalities or the same information that they just repackaging it from the secret, right? Because I feel like in today's time, because of social media, it's like this, you know, it's kind of, it's like the back, backhanded thing, right? Because we're so connected on social media that we're so disconnected in real life. So people are like really, really like desperately looking for connection and community and spiritual and spiritual, something.

Yeah, it's there and grounding. And that's why I feel like it's funny that it's become your area, your industry, so to speak, has really kind of become a billion-dollar industry. The books, the movies, the seminars. Everything. What do you think of all these people? Like a Jay Shetty, who are named some other ones that are really big right now, who are people are looking to them for hope and connectedness. I believe that everyone finds their teacher,

sometimes it's an entry-level teacher. And sometimes they'll find something that gets them on the path, that gives them basic exercises to practice. So I don't put them down, but I can tell you, if I go hear them, I can tell you in a few moments whether they know about it or they know it. Right, right. I can tell the inflection of the voice. I can tell, you know, oh, that's good information, but they really haven't experienced. Well, there's a difference between being a really good

motivational speaker and being a spiritual teacher, right? There's a, there's a really good motivational speaker and being a spiritual teacher. There's a fine line. I think a lot of these people are great motivational speakers or inspirational, but what is the difference? In your head, there's a big difference. I have, when I teach four stages of spiritual growth development and unfoldment in my life visioning book, and the first stage is the stage of the victim.

When you just feel that something outside of you is determined in your destiny. Your parents, God, devil, whatever. Then stage two is the stage two, is where motivation is. And stage two is where you learn how to visualize. You learn how to see what you want, like the secret.

See what you want, name it, feel it, and bring it into manifestation. That's where motivation is. Stage three is, stage one would be something is happening to us. Stage two is I'm doing something. Stage three is something is happening through me. That's a deeper level of surrender.

And motivation is external. Stage three is inspiration. Inspiration is coming from within you. You become inspired by a vision of possibility that pulls you to take the right steps. There's action that has to be taken, but it's from inspiration, it's from a vision that you begin to articulate. You don't need to mind to motivate you. You're inspired by something. And in stage 4 is as us. You actually feel that your life is the same life. Whatever name you want to call it. The life of God, the life of the presence, the life of love intelligence. That's your life. And so people, I take people through those stages. Right. And there's a teacher for every stage there are teachers that really can motivate you

until you're ready to be self-inspired. Well that's the thing a lot of times you know I like a lot of these like Tony Robbins is so motivation I'm like yeah wow wow wow and then you go home and I'm like like like then what you know what I mean like some people are just so great on stage that you like their energy and so infectious. Yeah. That you then you go home and you're kind of like, okay, well, this is my life now, right? So you mean so you have like, so in the spiritual, what you do is you kind of break things down and have, you say that motivation is basically just one piece of it. It's the external piece.

But you help teach people how to find inspiration within themselves. Yeah, and that's why I teach meditation. Right. And that's why I teach life visionings. What kind of meditation do you teach? It's a combination of the personal, but it's my own style. I'm asking if I have any idea what this is. Okay, so what's your own style?

So basically I have people become conscious of their intention to establish an intention to place their attention on their intention until it becomes a feeling and then to watch the breath and then anything that comes up like if your mind goes out in the fantasy and you're wandering around with that when you become conscious you bring the attention back to your intention and breath again. You do it over and over again. Or if you have an emotional trauma that begins to come up.

Eventually, you'll be able to hold your attention. So as the trauma is coming up, it doesn't suck you down its path, you're able to look at it. Now in science, there's something called the observer effect. That whatever you observe changes on a subatomic level simply because you're looking at it. So when you have intention and you see the stuff coming up and you look at it, it starts to disintegrate. It starts to dissolve because

the root of it is a lie. The root of all trauma is that you're not enough, that you've been irrevocably hurt, that you can never get over it. You're separate from God. Those are all lies. So when you look at something with intention for long enough, it will start to unravel. And particularly if you're sitting with somebody like a practitioner who's holding that feel for you, you'll grow a lot faster. So I teach meditation, I teach life visioning, and the thing for me is I have a community which means... If you have any members that are gapping out? I don't know.

There's 25,000 on Facebook every Sunday, there's more on website... Few live stream, right? The live stream, it's all over the world, but in terms of local membership, I guess on a given Sunday you'd have about two or three thousand people there. That's a lot. Every Sunday. Yeah. I think a lot. Yeah, it's beautiful. And it's not like you don't have to be like you said religious. It can be. Listen, we have atheists there. They identify as atheists. We have people from all walks of life. You know, you have brothers from Islam, brothers and sisters from the Jewish

community, you know, Christians, everybody's there. People who don't identify with anything, you know, because when I'm teaching a certain principles that apply to everybody, just like a gravity is not a Christian law. Right, we're, of course, gravity. So what are some of the principles that you teach that are much more general for people who are like me, we're, of course, gravity. So what are some of the principles that you teach that are much more General for people who are like me, you know, not people who are like super spiritual already, but are Are interested and always like personal growth. Yeah, they do life and vision. You do life. I do life visioning But what does that mean? So tell us what that means that there's something within you It wants to um, it wants to emerge you, just like within the seed of an avocado, there's an avocado tree within there.

So within each of us, there's something unique that wants to express. So in stage two, visualization, I will see what I want. I'll imagine it, I'll feel it, and bring it into manifestation. Visioning is the next stage. Visioning says, I may not even know what it is, but I'm going to open myself up and catch it which is trying to emerge in my life. So it's beyond my imagination. You see? So something, we learn, I teach people to catch the vision and then learn to articulate it.

And then do the steps necessary to become vibrationally matched with that. So you're actually giving birth to yourself. You did wiping something within you that you may not even know what it is. Some people do know what it is. Well, what's this thing I saw when I was looking saw when I was doing a little bit of research on you? You talk about a new way to manifest true manifestation. Okay. True manifestations when you actually change.

The manifestation that we talk about in the secret is you can kind of get what you want with your mind. I mean, I can see it and make it happen. But you may not change. I can get what you want with your mind. You know what I mean? I can see it and make it happen. Right, right, right. You know, but you may not change. So people become addicted to materialism. They become addicted to manifestation. But real manifestation is when my character changes.

They actually become a greater version of myself. Right, right. And I still manifest good. Right. But year after year after year, I'm becoming more authentic. I'm becoming more real. My soul is becoming more available to express. More from our guest, but first a few words from our sponsor.

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Trust me, you'll love it. I saw that also. You said it. I like this. You said that. Well, not everybody can do everything, but everybody can do something. Yes. And we're all, we're basically all the same, but what separates us is our habits. Yes. Yes. So what do you, so talk about that a little bit? Well, many people are living an unintentional life.

They wake up and they go out into the world and they react to what's going on. They have no intention. So I help people establish an intention and then habits where they can embrace that intention. So how you wake up in the morning is very important. Wake up with a sense of gratitude. Even if things aren't looking well, there's some powerful questions like, how can it get better than this? Now, the universal answer in your question, you ask. So, if you ask, how can it get better than this?

You start to get information. If things are going good, you still ask the same question because you're just barely tapping, touching the surface of what must have come through. So habits. In my habit, I wake up, I put my feet on the ground, and I am very grateful for my life, and then I surrender to life,

and then I say, what's my assignment for today? I open myself up to be guided as to what I'm to do today. Then I go to the gym. And you actually get something, like, from, like, do you hear something? I make it in that moment, or in the course of the day guidance will come. Okay, so I'll make something to drink I go to the gym workout I mean two things I want to the detail

Michael make two things I have a maca chino and a cacao drink that I put together a heated up Well, wait wait hold on a maca chino like I said like a Starbucks maca up. Well wait, wait, wait, look at that. A macachino, like a Starbucks, macachino. No, no, no, no, it's a maccha, you mean? It's a maccha, yeah. Maccha? Yeah, you call it maccha, I call it maccha. I call it tomato. Tomato, tomato, exactly.

Yeah. Where's that and cacao? Okay. With some cinnamon for the brain and the oatmeal, or almond milk, heated up. I go to the gym with that. I'm drinking that with some herbs and stuff like that. Did you work out every day? Yes. I guess probably every morning routine, right? Yeah. Okay. Where do you come back? Where do you work out? Not like it's a goal's gym. A goal's gym. Which one?

Cold. Well, I'm cold. Oh, okay. And so what do you do? Cardio, weight, spell. I have a trainer. So I do something different every day. Oh, so you have a trainer every day? Yeah. Oh, that's for you. Look at you. All right. So Monday through Friday, you work out? Or Tuesday through Friday. Why not Monday? Monday I take a yoga class. Oh, OK. And in Tuesday, I may take a yoga class. Thursday, I may take a yoga class.

So we wake up, you give gratitude, and then you ask, you say, I surrender to life. Surrender to life. Ask for my assignment. I do my workout. I come back. I make my shake. Okay, so you first have that Mark the chocolate Okay, the second thing is my shake. Okay, what's in your shake? Pure synergy green drink have a cattle blueberries

Omnit or oat milk I'll throw in other stuff depending on feeling that particular day You know and then I go up to my room and I'll meditate. So before I leave the home, I actually have a meditation time. How long do you meditate for? Minimum. The minimum time is 22 minutes, but I'll go longer if I have- Why 22, not 21, 23? I like the number 22. It's kind of a cosmic number. Really? Is it kind of like your thing, 22? No, no, it's not my thing. It's just a cosmic number. Really? Is it a clock? Okay, really? Is it kind of like your thing, 22?

No, no, it's not my thing. It's just a cosmic number, a general. Okay. All right, so then what do you do? Then I go to the office. Once I finish my meditation. What time is this around? Like what time do you wake up?

I wake up. Like today I woke up at 4.30. I didn't want to wake up that early. But I did wake up at 5.30. Oh, that's very early. I know. But generally speaking, I'm at the gym at 7. So I'll wake up at about but I did wake up. That's very early. I know, but generally speaking, I'm at the gym at seven, so I wake up about 5'30. Okay, and then, I saw you also say that you magnets.

What's magnet? What do you mean, that magnet? Can I say all that? Yeah, you still need to say any of that, where you just, you said here, well, you said in something, contemplation devotion. I guess that's kind of, I have a set of magnets that are really big and very powerful.

And I stand, that's the department of meditation. I stand on the magnets and I do this Chigong movement. Why didn't you tell us this? Why do pull it out of you? You know, we could go on for days about my practice. This is what I want. That's what it's called, habits and hustle for. So, listen, the earth is becoming demagnetized.

Okay. Over the years. All right. And in the magnetic field, cancer cells can exist. You know, if you have enough magnetic field, and it also creates energy moving to the meridians of your body. So you stand on magnets? Yeah, I stand on magnets.

Where did you get these magnets from? I bought it from this guy. I've been trying to find him because everybody keeps asking me about the magnets. You're going to breeze right over in this box. He lives in Tennessee. He lives in the mountains. He had a big spiritual awakening. The coyotes don't bite him.

The bears don't bother him. This part is really phenomenal. He breaks a different weightlifting record every year. He's in his 80s. And he's in his 80s. He's in his 80s and he's in his 80s. Anyway, I got these magnets from him and I stand, I do Qi Gong on it. Just Tai Chi, yeah. Yeah, what Qi Gong is different from Tai Chi, but it's very similar. And I'll do the exercise, it's the mortality exercise to add longevity to your life.

And then I sit down and meditate. How long do you do the... I do eight breaths, the nine breaths, and then I'll do that for about eight minutes before I sit and do the 22. So how long have you been doing this part, the magnets for? It's been years. And have you seen a difference, or do you feel any different

from when you didn't do that? When I first started, it was dramatically different different but now I'm used to it. You used to it. So how do we find this guy? I will find it and get it to you. Really you promise? I promise because I got people in the congregation asking me the same thing. Because that's, I mean I've got a lot of things.

But foot. Right, so your foot's standing on it. You're standing on it and this is foam around it so you don't hurt your feet. And you can put food and supplements on it as well. I have my supplements on the magnets as well. Why? What's the point?

It keeps them fresher, more potent. The magnetic field does. So you keep them there like just all the time? Or just when you're doing your practice? No, no, the food and the supplement are just there. We're going to get to the supplements in one second. Let me just get this straight. You stand on these magnets.

No, I'm crazy again. No, no, no, no, no. We'll get the first time for you, right? No, no, no. Do you, as the idea that magnets take out the negative energy, it's basically pulling negative or detoxing or what's the purpose of that? It strengthens the energy that moves the meridians of your body, clears up the toxicity, slows down the aging process. I've never heard anyone do that before. Is that what you look like you're 25 and you're probably like 106 by this point?

First of all, you look like you're so young, by the way. You don't have an age since I remember you from Oprah, when that was what, like, again, 25 years ago. Oh, percent the same thing to me the last time she saw me. It's a Michael. You cut off your hair, but you look so young. You deal. I said, thank you.

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is anything that I can't control. If I can't do anything about it, then I handle it with stress is anything that I can't control if I can't do anything about it Then I I surrender it to the presence. I say okay. I can't do anything about this I'm just gonna lift the presence handle this now do I'll live more in a perfect space about it So I'm not stressing about what's gonna happen? How am I gonna do this? What's gonna? I don't know right? You know that that takes people out It's hard though, right? Because I feel like life happens, right? Life happens. That's why you have to have a practice.

No, I have it. You have to have them. You have to do it whether you feel good and you have to do it when you don't feel good. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree with that. I mean, hence the name of the show. So then, do you do breathwork then also?

Yes. Yes. By this time, your whole morning routine's over. It's like, clock in the afternoon. It's dinner time. It's all at the same time. When I'm sitting in meditation, I do two kinds of breaths. I do an eight, four, eight, four count.

So I breathe in, you know, eight, hold four, out, eight, hold four. I do that for a while. And then I'll do the breath of fire, which is the rapid breath. Like that, it clears up the psychic energy. I do that before I speak. I'm seeing, yeah, I do that before I speak. I do the breath work and then I get up to speak.

Yeah, so I do breath work. You know what it is? These things are so close to me, I don't think about it anymore. You're pulling it out, but it's just like boilerplate. I get up, I do the things. I'm not even, it's not even part of thinking anymore. It's just, this is what I do. Right. I'm a big person with morning routines. I think they're super important because it also puts you on track and put you on point for the rest of your day. Right. Right.

And so, but you wake up, what do you know, are you just at 430 today? And that was, generally I wake up at 530, 530. 530. Yeah. So, except on Sundays, Are you just at 430 today? That was generally I'll wake up at 530 530. Yeah, so except on Sundays I wake up at 4. At 4. Yeah, so you do a bit. So you're a big thing if on Sundays, right? So Every Sunday, how long is your sermon? Do we call it a sermon or we call it a yeah talk sermon presentation Which time did you do that at like I have a 645 AM. It's called the way of meditation service. It's just for meditation. I'm not giving a, I'm giving it like a 10 minute talk on meditation. Everyone's meditating together? Yeah, then we practice together. That's the smaller service. Only the

real adepts come up to that service. Wow. Because this meditation right in the next service There's a meditation service at 8 30 and then the service begins at 9 and then that's when we have the music That's when I speak and I may be speak for about 35 40 minutes. Maybe somewhere in there. Mm-hmm. Okay, and so And then the next one's at it meditations at 11. Oh, yeah, I said 11 30s We have three well to do three in a day. And they're all you can stream all of them. Yes. So, okay, so let's get to Oprah. I'm curious about Oprah because I like her.

I like her too. Like most, like most people. How did, so you, the whole sacred thing happen and then Oprah finds you from the secret and you go onto her show and how did you become what's your relationship with her are you part of her spit because she you she used you as a spiritual she has you guys yes she's okay we're open with the whole group right and then she didn't write everybody else back she's invited me and this other individual back okay to come on a few times and then she had me do a super soul Sunday and then there's something we did at Royce Hall,

which had me speak to the audience there. And then she, I did, it was something called, we went down to the Chopra, a coffee Chopra, Deepak Chopra's son, produced this show in which I would sit at a table of people who would come up with their issues and they taped me dealing with them right on the spot. Oh, I like that. I forgot what it was called, but that's online. Is there any issue?

So, as it, because a spiritual therapist would imagine even though you bring up the good in people, not the bad, it's starting to give you their issues, right? This is my problem. And you don't do that anymore, you're set, though. I don't do it as much. Okay, but you're still on. Because I'm busy with agape. But I still do it.

I'll meet with people who I know is gonna make a big impact on people. Like for instance, Michael Jackson used to fly me up to counsel with him You want Michael Jackson's fear so that I was one of them I wasn't the only one. I mean deep-hawk worked with him other people when you'd fly me up and You know we would work so what how okay? This is you know, and that's just one person. I'm just mentioning because it's gone. Okay. We need me two other people Well, they're living. I don't know what what what I don't find that they're living

I know they might mine. Okay, so let's let's pull. Well, they're a living, I don't know. What, what, what, I don't find that they're a living. No, no, no, they might mine. Okay, so let's, let's, let's with Michael Jackson, but that's fine. So, what would happen? So, how, how was it, did you like him? Yeah, I did. He was, he's a brilliant guy. Did you do, was he a strange as people?

He wasn't strange with me. We sit, the only thing strange about him was, we'd sit, we'd be working on something, then he would jump up and start dancing, and then he would sit back down and he would say, oh, a dance move moved into my mind, I had a lock of damage before I forgot it. Excuse me. You know? Really?

I can do dance move, like is it? It's a movement, you know? So at what point were you like, were you like spiritually guiding him? Was it, what, the thriller days? Was it, I thriller days was it? I would admit it was a probably a year before he died. A year before he died. So it was after all the child stuff.

Did he ever talk to you about any of that stuff? We didn't get to that. He was very concerned about the people around him. It was, it didn't feel safe. There was a lot of other issues. And then he was just about to come to a gaffe. We were making arrangements so he could come in and not be bothered.

And then he would call me and leave messages on my phone at 2 o'clock in the morning and wanting prayer and this type of thing. What's he was worried about? Is he big people or is he people around him or people that were gonna Are out for him because of what happened with all the children. No, I don't think that I think they were just people around him that used We're using him. Yeah, well he has all I feel like that's all I have where people who used him and so so that so he's been Incom why why wouldn't you just live stream it from his house? You know, he probably did. I found out later, one of his producers told me, I didn't know

this at the time, that he would play my stuff for his staff in his studio sometimes before recording. So, from the secret stuff, from my own stuff. And I said, really, I didn't even know that. Until this guy at the memorial service, he came up and told me, you know, Michael played your stuff all the time. And I said, wow. That is amazing. It was amazing. So someone like a Deepak, you brought him up, Deepak Chopra.

How are you guys, are you guys going to stay in the same lane a little bit? Like you guys do the same. Probably he's more influenced by the Indian teachings. But he's definitely at this stage of his development, more teaching about the unified field, the mysticism, the connection to the ineffable, so we're in the same lane. Can you give some advice to someone,

people who I was saying earlier, when we're earlier in this podcast, who find it hard to grasp this stuff. Like what's a couple of pointers? How do people get started to really be on a spiritual path? Well, the first thing you want to do is find something that's going to challenge you intellectually, read something that's going to change the neurons

in your brain, study the stuff. And you'll begin to see that it makes sense. You know, community is very important if it's authentic. Because community, you see the testimonies and the people there that have come from a far distance, and when they share how far they have come, then you begin to think, oh, I can do this too. That's just a regular person who was suffering from anxiety or whatever they were suffering from. And now they're walking in confidence.

So community is very important, which is why we live stream. Studying is very important. But if you just develop one habit, you know, just wake up, do what I just said earlier, and then get still, and this ask an empowering question, such as, who am I? Or was the next step in my development? Or was trying to emerge in my life, with sincerity, eventually you start to feel a level of guidance. And everybody receives it differently. Some people is a felt sense, some people is an image, some people is a vision, some people is intuition, but if you do it sincerely, something will change.

Because most people are asking disempowering questions. What's wrong? Who's to blame? Why me? Why did this happen? Those questions are futile. There's a futile questions. We have to ask an empowering question and then we'll start to get answers from that level. Then we start to get inspired. Right. And like I think you said, like, practice it. You may know it happened day one. No, no. As long as you keep at it. Yeah.

People have cut grooves and fear and worry and doubt. There's grooves and they, and people are addicted to fear and doubt and worry because of the toxic chemicals that are produced. So they like to drama. Their mantra is, I have drama, therefore I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It makes you feel alive, right?

It makes you feel like, oh, I've been drama. Oh, guess what happened, yeah. You know, but that takes you down. Real bliss and ecstasy is natural. It brings you up. Expand your awareness. You live longer. I like that. So when I was at with me on one of your spiritual, I guess therapists Kim was at her. Kim Teranova. Kim Teranova. So she did this thing called something around you.

What is it called? What's that? What's the program called? This thing called you? That's what it's called. I thought something of... Spiritual liberation? No, something around you are, you are enough or are you...

Yeah, the answer is you. The answer is you, like the answer is you. That's just my program of the license. That's what answer is you. That's my program that they license. That's a program that they license you. What can you explain? What is the premise of the answer is you? The answer is you take you through a teaching and it takes you through a teaching and practices

in the different structures of your life, your relationships, your finances, your livelihood, your body temple, how you, the part you play in the community, the ego. So it breaks all those things down and it shows you the spiritual principles that you can begin to use and practice to bring those particular areas of your life into balance. So they're not a liability, they become an asset. So that's what she was doing there. You know, slowly and then giving enough practices so people can go home and practice at least one thing. Right. So how do you like, so when you put, I feel like you do a lot

of these speaking things. You told me you're going to India on Monday for some festival that you're speaking. International yoga festival. Okay, so I use, you say you're speaking, how long do you speak for an hour? I don't know yet. Don't tell me, but I'm assuming it's about 40, 45 minutes. Long way to go for 45 minutes. Yeah, but it's a whole festival. It's a whole festival. I mean, I'll participate in the festival, and I'll probably speak more than once. That's what I'm asking. What do you speak about on something like, when you speak to crowds of that magnitude or

a festival, what's your main mission? Like what do you try, what's your main message? I will step into the field and I don't write anything out, but I'll get a sense of what needs to be spoken about. And of course, I'll deal with the fact that they're one with this inexhaustible life presence. And then whatever nuance wants to come out in that moment about that, you know,

I don't know what it is right now. Right, like do you, I guess do you plan it or does it do stand up there and just really meditation? Right, but before I go probably today, since I'm leaving Monday, I'll figure out I'll get a topic of some kind. And then the topic will give me, You know, it's Friday, by the way.

I know. Okay. Just letting you know. This is how I do it. I gotta speak on Sunday at a gop, I haven't given a topic yet for that. That's what I'm saying. I feel like you're kind of like,

you're not winging it completely. No, it's not winging. You kind of stake about it for five minutes before. Yeah, I'm just kind of in it. And then, Yeah. And then it kind of just comes from within. Do you still feel like a pack,

like someone you're getting? a Pat, like someone's, that you're getting, I mean obviously, do you get people a voice telling you things? And then when you got surrender? Historically, in fact when I started my first five years of public speaking at Agape, it was more like I was channeling in from energy.

And then as I matured, I became aware that what I was channeling was myself, it was a higher expression of myself. So it's actually me without innovation, without restriction, it's the presence, but the presence is me. Wow. Okay. So it's not not channeling, I'm just like available. Do you feel energy from other people? I try not to. Because I mean, isn't that kind of part of it? Like you get like a like even when I'm speaking? No, like I mean, even

someone like me who's not you, like I get I get gut feelings. I'm like, I don't love the energy of that person. I don't like that. That's what's throwing me off. That person's vibration doesn't matter. Like, you know what I mean? Like just on a very like basic level. Sure. Yeah, we all have that ability. Are you more heightened than most people? Let me just put it this way. Years ago, I stopped myself from feeling other people.

I think because it was too little bit too sensitive. Right. And you stopped, though. I practice what I call radiation. I radiate the quality that I want. So therefore I don't have to feel other people's stuff. So if I'm going into a room, I may pick up what's going on in the room a little bit, but primarily I'm bringing an energy into the room.

So I teach people how to, if you're going to walk into a room, you, whatever you want to feel, just bring it in with you, rather than pick, rather than trying to pick it up and see what's going on with people. Therefore, you pick up people's energy, their toxicity, but you'll still be guided. Like you talk about a good feeling, you'll still have an awareness, oh, that's the guys in the law for, I really don't want to do business with that person. You know, you'll still have that, but you're actually bringing the energy rather than receiving the energy. That's a good one, but how do you do it?

Like, okay, so if I want to walk into a room and bring happiness or... So you close your eyes, you think of a moment in which you were authentically happy, you feel into that, take a breath, and maybe sustain the breath. I don't let it out yet, as you're feeling the happiness, take a little bit more air in, feel the happiness, and then release. Now your nervous system is now acclimating itself around that happiness. Normally, the nervous system, like if you're fearful or jolted, you get some bad news, you contract the nervous system holds that thought. So what we're doing is we're unraveling all that stuff that's in the nervous system by going to a higher level just by using memory.

That actually worked for a second. I've just whole hour so far. I think that's one nugget that is so easy for anybody to really do. Anybody can do it. When you sustain the breath for a long enough period of time, then the nervous system catches that thought and holds it. So now your body is in league with your mind. Right.

So you walk in and then you have that feeling. Right. You walk in and you're dominating the energy. How long does it sustain itself though? How about that? It's more your practice, the more it sustains. That's it, I like that one. Give me one more.

Another practice? Okay. Let me see. Not to put you on the spot, but it's fine. Begin to... Okay, that's that one. Okay, you can begin to... you when you have when the mind is spinning out Mm-hmm And the mind generally spins out and generally goes to a worst case scenario

Mm-hmm. It you know you start off with something small and by the end of the few moments You're fired and you hold Right. Oh my god. Everything's gone wrong. That's right. So I teach people how to create best case scenarios That is when the mind starts to spin out, you stop, and you begin to ask, what is the best thing that could happen? Just ask the question, what is the best thing that could happen out of this? And then you let the mind go crazy,

uninhibited imagination, oh, this could happen, I can meet this person, I could, that would lead to this, and then this will work out. And then as you get way expanded there, you see how you feel, how you feeling and then you do the same thing. You hold that feeling and then you let that feeling determine the outcome and it may even be better than your best case scenario that you have in your mind. But these are practices. Yeah, no, I totally understand that.

The whole idea behind practices, you have to practice it. Over and over again. Practice makes permanent. Yes, practice makes permanent. And all these good nuggets at the end of the podcast. Practice makes, this is great. I'm going to come listen to you at a gophe first of all.

I was going to go last week with a friend of mine who went by the way. What did she say about it? I didn't talk to you. She was following my story when she knew I was with you or whatever. And then she's like, I'm gonna, she texts me. I'm gonna be going.

I'm gonna go check it out. Do you wanna come? I'm like, I'm not gonna be there. Bubba, blah, blah. I'm not gonna be in town. And I think she liked it though. Oh good. I didn't hear any bad things.

I wanna hear what she said. I absolutely. I don't know. She went to 9 or 11, 30. She went to 9. Okay. It's a very artichael service. She went to 9. And I'm sure she liked it nine or 11 30 she went to nine. Okay. It's very our ticket service. She went to nine and I'm sure she liked it. I'll let you know though. I'll only let you know though if you get me those magnets though. I'm sure it's way to good. I'm gonna do it. I hope so. I'm

gonna try to get him to sponsor me now. I'm putting all this business out there. He's making a lot of money. You sure? Oh, you didn't tell me what supplements you take on the magnets. Which ones are you having over there? Oh, okay. I take NAD. Okay, but you take schrin hydrogen? No, I will, because you're going to give me some. I want you to try it.

It's amazing. Okay. Okay, I take systemic enzymes every day in the morning in the evening. Those are, do you know what those, okay? No, I don't. What is this? Systemic enzymes or dead, not digested. I know digestive enzymes. These enzymes you take on an empty stomach,

it's where the scar tissue eats up the fiber in your body, releases pain, amplifies your immune system. If for instance, if you were in Germany and you were in a car accident, you had swelling, they would give you an IV, a systemic enzymes, which would immediately take away the swelling. In America, they give you IV profanity. Right, so anti-inflammatory basically. Anti-inflammatory and anti-aging.

Okay. So I take that every day, twice a day, in the morning and in the evening. I wake up and I drink warm water with lemon, pinch of salt, some minerals. I drink two glasses of that in the morning. I take salt because of your dehydration. Yeah, it's the surface of binder with the lemon, you see. I do that every day. I take pure synergy, the green drink. I take that whole shelf of fire stuff.

Again, they're like boilerplate. I take a quarter-seps when I work out. And I take super peel one, two, and three from dragon herbs, ones for viral and bacteria, ones for antitegging, and ones for circulation. So I take that every day. And it'll be taking true 900 every day too. Yeah, I'm going to be. You're going to be taking true nitrogen every day. I'm going to be. Yeah. I'm going to have to put you in a space on the magnet right now. I do. You're going to like, we're in the spot right there. Good. I'm glad to hear it.

You're amazing. I thank you so much for coming on. I kept you for over an hour. I hope you don't mind. Yeah. 63 minutes and 36 seconds. And you've been doing a good job on this trip. You thought you'd need a tissue or like a sweat. Yeah. And look at you. You're're just beers going and going go for the three hours on this thing Okay, so how many calories did you burn in the last 60 out in 62 minutes press the white button? Just 2.63 No press the white button

Am I pressing the right button? It's 184 Oh over here 184. Oh good see a 180 184 calories you had normally not a burn, see? I appreciate that. It's like you basically need to, to, to, wait, one rock or two burns one stone, basically, as well as I'm gonna say, two.

My brain's obviously not working very well, you more coffee or more enzymes or whatever. Well, this has been awesome. Thank you so much for coming on. Oh, thank you for invitation. Listen, you're always welcome. Tell people how they can find you besides a gope, of course. Well, there's a gope live.com, and then there's

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