Habits and Hustle - Episode 72: Dr. Mindy Pelz – Founder of Reset Academy, Best Selling Author, and Fasting Enthusiast

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

Dr. Mindy Pelz is the Founder of Reset Academy, Best Selling Author, and Fasting Enthusiast. If you have ever been interested in or wanted to try any type of fasting (intermittent or otherwise) Dr. Mindy Pelz has the research, the knowledge, and years of experience to answer any questions or concerns you might have, and that’s exactly what this episode of the podcast is. The episode is one hour. Entirely about fasting. It’s comprehensive, educational, accessible, and if you haven’t already been interested in fasting, after listening, you might be. Go in a sugar-burner, come out a fat-burner, and no matter what, remember there’s no such thing as a failed fast. Youtube Link to This Episode Dr. Pelz Website ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email [e-mail]  📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer – Instagram – Facebook – Twitter – Jennifer’s Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Habits and Hustle Podcast. A podcast that uncovers the rituals, unspoken habits, and mindsets of extraordinary people. A podcast powered by Habit Nest. Now here's your host, Jennifer Cohen. Today on Habits and Hustle, we have Dr. Mindy Pell who is an expert in fasting, right? She's an expert in fasting and she created a diet

called the reset or diet. And I really wanted to speak with you because I'm actually very curious about fasting. I've kind of been a Kind of like a non-believer so to speak because I think I don't really understand all the all the Nooks and crannies of the benefits So I you know, so I wanted to get you on. And I guess first start with, why I think it's become such a fad and such a trend right now. What is it about fasting? Can you just kind of break it down from the beginning?

Why has fasty become the new coconut oil or the new tail? Right. So I think you have to go back to look at how we were designed. So the human body was designed to go without food. And when you go without food, there's some really interesting chemical reactions that happen that people are finding are really healing. Your body starts to drop weight, they can help enhance brain function. So, what people, why the fasting craze has caught on so much, is that all we're doing is going back to how we were originally designed.

So, if we just kind of dive back into caveman days, and you think about it, like we didn't have food accessible to us all day long. So, the cave people would wake up and they would have to go out and hunt. So in order to go hunt, it was in their best interest for their body to have energy, to have really incredible mental clarity,

and they needed to be at their best so they could go make a kill. And so we literally have a whole chemistry system and we can break down what exactly that is that kicks in when we don't eat food. And the minute you eat food, you shut this chemistry off. And that's what people are discovering with fasting is all of a sudden they're like, oh my gosh, I didn't know that ketones could help my brain power. I didn't know that my body would detoxify itself.

I didn't realize that I would have more GABA production which calms you. So there's this whole chemical reaction that takes place when you fast. And then if you now look at what science is proving what why this is working so well. So it's a combination of us going back to our ancestors, the way we're born, we were designed. Now people are getting results and now science is showing us why. So okay, so let me start with this. So how did you become a leading expert in fasting in the first place? Did you

have some health issue that kind of you had to figure out on your own or? It's a great question. So I always say that my biggest thing that happened to me was my about mid 40s. I started going through menopause and having like really obscure symptoms. So the biggest one was that at about 45, I was a long distance runner, I was paleo at the time, and breakfast was, I was eating six, eight meals, it's small little meals a day,

I was a big into like the snacking mentality. And all the sudden I just noticed, I was putting on weight, I wasn't able to get that little, like when the five pounds creep on and then they won't go off. Like I could all my old tricks weren't working. Yeah. And so I know it.

Right. And I was like, what is that? Right. And so what I found is that it was for women when we go into our 40s, we become as estrogen goes down. And we become more insulin resistant. And so we need more strategies to be able to drop weight. And so that's how I found fasting.

I found the ketogenic diet, but honestly, the fasting has just been incredible. It's been incredible. Like I've been able to really shorten my workouts because like my joints were hurting and I was, you know, I kept trying to work out more. Well, maybe I need to work out more. Yeah. And hard differently, exactly. Yeah.

So wait, you said when you were 45, I mean, you look pretty young. How old are you now? I'm 50. Okay, you're 50. Okay. So you started this whole thing about five years ago or so. And so you were really doing it because at the beginning you were kind of doing like you said all these little you know Tips and tricks that you've always done and that five pounds. It was really more for like for weight loss than for anything at the time

Correct started as that. Yeah, yeah started as that and it worked So you basically started the fat. What was the first kind of fast that you started with the first thing I did was intermittent fasting Which is 13 to 15 hours without food. So you skip breakfast. Right. And did that by itself let you lose the five pounds? Pretty much. Yeah, I mean, what it did is as I started intermittent fast,

at first, by the way, I was very dubious. I was like, OK, I'll try this one day. And then like I realized, oh, wait,, okay, I'll try this one day. And then I, like, I realized, oh, wait, you're supposed to do every day. I was like, no way. I had a whole breakfast plan. I was a smoothie girl in the morning. I had a whole health plan around my breakfast. So it took me probably a couple of months to embrace that I was going to do this not just once. I was going to do it every day. So once I did, the first thing that changed for me is that I stopped crashing at three o'clock in the afternoon. So my energy shifted. And then I would say the second

thing was I noticed I started to like when you become a fat burner, the way that you lose weight is totally different. You lose it like in the places that you lose weight is totally different. You lose it like in the places that you want to lose it, like in your belly, like around your, you know, your back and your booty. I think that was the first thing I noticed. Like my pants were fitting looser. I was going down a belt buckle, but I wasn't really seen it on the scale. I just felt like I, like there was something shifting my shape.

Right. And then from there, I started to do less exercise because I was getting injured at knee and hip and all kinds of problems from so much running. And then I noticed, wait a second, if I don't exercise as much, I actually, like, I'm still losing weight, I'm still feeling good, like, what was that about? And then that's kind of launched me into a whole, like what else could I do with fasting? Right, right, right.

I mean, this is interesting because a couple of things that I think about with that is being in the health industry, people think it's working out, but the reality is, it's about 80%, I think even more, I think it's even 90% of what you eat makes a difference, right? It's not exercise, exercise helps you tone. It's good for all the other health benefits, like your mood, your stress, all the other stuff.

But if you wanna lose actual fat, you need to be eating differently. So, right, so, but I think it's all psychological. People think if I just run faster, longer, harder, it will work and it's actually, it's myth. But that's the first thing I wanted to make a comment on, but the other thing I wanted to say, it's isn't it?

I mean, I still get stuck in this whole idea that it really is about calories, right? Because when you shorten the window when you eat, right? It's you're limiting the amount of calories you're able to eat, right? Because when you shorten the window when you eat, right, it's you're limiting the amount of calories you're able to eat, right? So, is it, why do you have to start, why do you have to fat? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it's very confusing. So, okay, so let me, let me give you an analogy. So, actually, it's not about the calories. You are eating less calories because what you do is you're shortening your eating window. We call it a fasting window and an eating window. So that's happening.

But what we have learned recently is that we hold on to weight because of hormonal issues. And one of the big hormone is that that causes us to hold on to weight is insulin. So when we are eating, let's say we're eating, let's use weight watchers as an example, because I like to pick on them because sometimes I feel like people go in the pre-packaged food and it's full of chemicals, it can be full of sugar and you're...

Right, and you're eating that stuff, but you're not, so you're minimizing your calories, but you're not necessarily minimizing your insulin production. So if you don't minimize your insulin production, the body says there's a lot of insulin here. I'm gonna have to go store it somewhere. So I'm gonna go store it in fact, and it uses fat as a place, a storage.

So that you hear this with people who have fatty liver. You look at them, like men, this happens a lot where they look super skinny, but they have this, they're dying of a fatty liver because all their sugar is being stored and fat around the liver. So for many people, that's what's happening with fat around their belly and other areas. So when you fast and you bring insulin down, what the body says is, okay, well, I don't have any insulin coming because food's not coming. So let me go find that insulin I stored years ago and let me burn that up. And let me go find the sugar I stored years ago.

Let me go burn the stuff that I stored a long time ago. And that's why it's such an incredible why it's working so well. So I it's funny that you mentioned Weight Watchers because I'm actually a big fat. I work with Weight Watchers many years. I'm a big fat. I don't like the chemicals. But no, but that's that's about packaged food. But when I liked about weight, when I do still like about Weight Watchers, and I've seen so many people have success on it for many reasons. Number one, it's a points system where it's tracking. So people don't know what to, like how much to eat a port. They don't know what portion control is. They don't know how and what to do. It gives you a guided system, which I thought not only me, it's had from what I've seen,

a lot of success over many, many years. Plus, it has that built in community when you have those meetings and the groups that you, right? And it keeps you, and it gives you that accountability because you got away in every week. So let's pick on Jenny Craig if we're gonna pick on anybody. We can pick on another one, that's fine. I pick on that, but I understand. I really want people to see, so. I know, I'm teasing you.

But what I was going to say, though, is I feel like this is all very psychological, right? Because people say not eating breakfast, then what? So like, if you're saying you get good results with that intermittent fasting, which is the eight hour, let's say the eight hour window where you're allowed to eat, right? Because that's what it is. That's like the basics, right? Then you can of course increase. Why not just stay there? window where you're allowed to eat, right? Because that's what it is. That's like the basics, right? Then you can of course increase.

Why not just stay there? Why are you then taking it to all these other types of that? Great idea. Let me just make one other comment. What I would encourage your listeners to do is if they are doing Weight Watchers and they love it, just throw in some intermittent fasting and see if you get better results.

That's a good idea. Because you can take fasting and apply it to any diet. So you can be paleo, keto, vegetarian, weight watchers, Jenny Craig. You can do all that. So, okay, so at each hour you fast, something different is happening. So 13 to 15 hours, we get growth hormone spikes. And growth hormone will slow the aging process down and will cause your body to start to burn fat. So we also have seen great studies with 13 to 15 hours brings inflammation down.

There was a New England Journal of Medicine article that came out where they studied, they looked at over 1500 peer reviewed journals on intermittent fasting, people doing 13 to 15 hours and they came out and said all doctors Should be using intermittent fasting as their first tool to help chronic disease So that 13 to 15 hours is crucial for your body just to go into more of a repair mode but with with with weight loss you're now at 13 hours getting growth hormone. And growth hormone is stops producing in our body at 30. So this is why it's harder to lose weight as we get older, one of the reasons. So now you're accessing growth hormone.

Then at 17 hours, something called a topogy happens. And a topogy is where the cells have these intelligence inside of them. And they basically say, okay, no foods coming. I can see this. So I better look within the cell and clean up what's in the cell and eat the toxins inside the bacteria that's inside the cell. So the cell literally literally turns

within itself and it starts to detoxify. So a lot of people doing 17 hour fast. Now what they're noticing is okay, wait, you know, like that skin condition I had, that chronic joint pain I had, like things that were, that symptoms that were, were piling on top of each other. My body is strangely healing that now. Now, if you go 24 hours, one of the things that happens that we've seen off research is that your intestinal, the, the, the mucosa, mucosa lining in your, in your intestinal track will start to produce stem cells and will repair your whole intestinal tract and make it easier for bacteria to grow that are good and some of those bacteria actually speed up your metabolism

and help you burn fat. So each hour you're getting something more and more, I mean, I can continue on. Like, you can even go go 48 hours in your dopamine receptor sites have all been reset. At 72 hours you get stem cell production, so your whole immune system resets and if you have any chronic musculoskeletal injuries, those tend to heal. So each the longer you go, the more benefit you get. So this is why I wanted you on the podcast, right?

Because a lot of people are doing fasting and talk about fasting, but you have all these groups of people that you put together, and you guys are doing these like five day fasts together on a regular basis. You know, I've been taught my whole life, and this is why it's so difficult for me

to wrap my head around it, that like you put your body in starvation mode if you don't constantly feed it, right? Because that's how you wrap up your metabolism. You eat breakfast first thing in the morning to get your metabolism going. So this is such a different way of thinking and a totally different thought process that has shown such great results.

So what happens to all that research that talks about putting your body in Sarvashima when you don't eat? Like how do you go five days and not eat? Like, I'm going to be an apple. Like, are you going to buy? I would love to come and like walk you through that process. I can't even imagine. I honestly, I can't even imagine. Like even intermittent fasting of just having an eight hour window to me is so difficult, even fathom. I'm actually going to be trying it starting Monday because I'm so tired of everyone telling me that it's so great for me.

I have to try it. I have to try it. So I'm going to bite the bullet. But tell me about this. You should definitely try intermittent fasting. That's usually the easiest door in. Actually, what I tell people to do is start with pushing your breakfast back an hour.

Just get used to that. And then once you're comfortable there, push it back two hours and just slowly work yourself towards an intermittent fasting state. So you can, you know, we have people. So we have like over 200,000 people that we fast together once a month, we're actually in it right now, we're doing, we call it fast training week. And the whole goal is-

You're fasting right now? Yeah, yeah. So what do you do now? Yeah, I haven't eaten since, well I'm not doing, some of the people are doing five day water, I'm just doing one meal a day this week, so I'm just eating dinner. So it's what one o'clock right now. I haven't I didn't need I'm an eaten anything yet So and I feel good how long how long are you doing this one meal a day? We this week we're doing it five days in a row But a lot of people do this is their lifestyle and some people are just doing water fast right now So they're just in our group. We always give people two options and some people take the option of doing the five day water fast. So, but here's what I'll tell you is that there's

two ways to burn energy. One is from sugar and one is from fat. So, you have to train yourself, they call it being metabolically flexible. And when you train yourself in this fasted lifestyle, this fasting lifestyle, the fast get easier and easier. So I would never take somebody like you and just throw you into a three or five they want, like you would be, I think you'd swear in that hand. I swear I would be an understatement. I don't think they'd be able to find you for your body. I get nervous if I can't eat lunch on time. Never mind not eating for five days. I can't even imagine that.

But so here's to go back to the science again, and then I want to talk about how do you build yourself up to a five day water fast. The mitochondria of our cells are our powerhouse of our cell. And they used to think that all disease started in the nucleus. And now they're like, because they can't say they're like actually disease starts in the mitochondria. And the mitochondria, you know your mitochondria are healthy when you can go without food.

So when you're hungry all the time and you can't go without food. Your mitochondria are not sustainable on their own. They're needing that glucose to function. But once you turn yourself into a fat burner and you're making ketones instead of glucose, those ketones go into the mitochondria and they start to tell the mitochondria to create more energy. So there's this weird moment where you'll go, I'm hungry, I don't feel good, I don't

feel good. And if you have a really healthy mitochondrial system, all of a sudden your mitochondria go, okay, we're going to make, we're going to spit out more energy. And you get this insane energy, insane mental clarity. The hunger turns off like it's weird. You have to experience it to know that you were designed for it. But, but sitting in your shoes, I was in your shoes. I totally get it. Like I was, I can tell you what I had for breakfast, like almost every day. And I, I would carry a bag of snacks around with me because I couldn't go without food.

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So you're saying if calories don't matter you can eat whatever the hell you want basically most people realize when they when they start fasting They what they eat becomes less important For the interesting for their weight loss. It's really it's an interesting way to eat your cake and You know great What's level two so level two goes from intermittent fasting to what? So the next level, what we teach is called atophagy fasting. And this is where atophagy fasting has a few more pieces to it.

So this is 17 hours without food. And then what we do is we encourage people to break their fast with fat. So they'll have like some nut butter or an avocado or some ghee. And so the reason we have them break their fast with fat is fat stabilizes the blood sugar. And for many people, they can now continue on until dinner.

And they don't. It's like a fat snack. And the hunger stops, but the ketones keep going. And you keep staying in a state of autophagy, which is where you're detoxifying, so the cells are detoxifying. The other caveat of a topogy fasting is that you have to keep your protein under 20 grams. And this was based off the science of Valtor Longo who's been studying how our bodies go

into the state of a topogy for decades. And if you go over 20 grams of protein, you kick yourself out of a top of G. And all the top of G is, is detox. Think of it like detox. You're just going into a 17 hours, you're going into a deeper level of detox. And so you break that atop, that you break the atop of the fasting with a fat, like you said. And then what's your meal consists of? It can be. Yeah. So you just all you have to, if you want to stay in that state of autophagy, you can carbs, you can decide, it could be anything. Just keep

your protein down under 50 grams. Or I'm sorry, under 20 grams. So does this mean that I mean, I use with all these fast, like intermittent fasting or autophagy, let's with those two, because it seems to be the most viable for someone who's just beginning the whole thing, right? I mean, even that doesn't seem viable. But just that would be odd, but is it then about cycling it? Are you, are this, this is a lot of, like, you don't do this all the time.

Like, you do cycle intermittent too, like, you don't do it. You do five days and a seven days a week or do you do it every single day? Yeah. Like it's not the same. Yeah. So this is like what you I think what you started to ask this question.

I've in a no doubt most people are thinking this, which is well, doesn't that slow your metabolism down? Because we've been taught like, well, I should eat to speed my metabolism up. So what I find in the fasting world is that a lot of people love the results. They start losing weight. They just feel so amazing that they're like, well, let me do more of it.

And they start fasting all the time. And then their metabolism does slow down. So variation is key. You don't, to me, intermittent fasting is a lifestyle. You can do that every day. We actually teach what I call a 5-1-1, where five days a week, you do intermittent fasting is a lifestyle. You can do that every day. We actually teach what I call a 5-1-1 where five days a week, you do intermittent fasting. One day a week, we encourage people to go try to go to 24 hours and only have dinner or have one meal. And then one day a week, do whatever you want, don't fast.

So that the 5-1-1 seems to be a really good combination, but to your point, you can't keep... If we see this all the time where people, they call them OMAD. They're like the OMAD lovers, which is one meal a day. And they come into our group and they're like, I've been doing OMAD for so many years. I've lost... like the weight loss. Oh my God, the weight loss is like 50 hundred pounds like people are losing massive weight by going to this one meal a day idea and So then what ends up happening is they get stuck because they didn't vary it. So I'm a big fan of variation Yeah, this is not we're not meant to be an extreme fast all the time

So you do plot you so you can plant toe on these diets, you do the same thing, like anything else in life, right? Any other plant tone, yeah, anything, any other diet. But you're saying the first level, which is just basic intermittent fasting, where you have an eight hour window of eating, you can do that all the time. But anything beyond that, you have to vary it, right? Yeah. Okay, so then you said, you told us about a pot, would you call it a topogy?

Topogy, fasting. What's the next level after that? And what's the benefits of that one? So the next level would be 24 hour fast, which actually is becoming my favorite fast. And it's 24 hours. So like if you eat dinner, you finish putting food in your mouth,

seven o'clock on Monday night, you're not going to eat dinner again till seven o'clock on Tuesday. Like I always tell people, it's not 23 hours and not 22 hours. It's 24 hours. So at 24 hours, what happens is that your intestinal stem cells will reboot, but you also get GABA production. So it's funny as you fast, you get calmer. It's a weird thing. It's like there's like something just calms you and it's your GABA production. So I find like we deal with a lot of people who have like SIBO issues or Candida or parasites or autoimmune conditions that have a gut problem. And so I get them doing 24 hour fast on a at least once a week basis, maybe sometimes twice a week. And there is like a whole nother chemical reaction

that happens when you get to that 24 hour mark. Wow, okay, and then next after that would be what? The next level after that is actually the, for weight loss, the one that actually is magic. Once you've gotten a rhythm with the 24 hour and the intermittent fasting and autophagy is actually 36 hour fast. And you know who made this really popular. If you haven't read the book, the obesity code, I really recommend you research Jason Fung

and in fact, he'd be great to bring on your podcast. Yeah Jason, when I spoke about him last time, I wanted to come on the podcast. I know who he is. He's really good. Yeah and he's the one that really debunked the calorie in, calorie out for weight loss. He was a nephrologist working with kidney disease from diabetics who just, you know, never got their sugar under control. And so what ended up happening is he discovered, like, why don't we change their lifestyle? And what he found was that if he changed their lifestyle, that all the extra insulin that they were looking for, that was destroying their health, their kidneys, their liver, that

if they went into a longer fast, 36, 48 hours, the body would go find that extra insulin and sugar and it would burn it and those organs would be like new again. So a lot of diabetics start to do the 36, 48 hours, people who want to lose weight, that's a sweet spot for really going after that stubborn Wait that will not come off. So that's where I like the 36 hour fast I know but again like my brain goes to well, yeah, of course you're not eating for three days Obviously, you're gonna lose weight. I mean, doesn't that kind of like isn't that kind of common tension?

You're putting zero calories in your body So once what I would happen to me, and this has happened, I'm sure a lot of people, is you know you're not feeling while you're sick, you're not eating very much, right? You can go days without eating. But the second you start eating again, you gain all that weight right back. So then you put yourself through all this like hell

of not eating and starving, and then you end up getting all the weight back. That's what I would happen, right? So I always tell people there's no such thing as a failed fast. That every fast has healing reaction. So, but to your point, what will happen is you will lose weight and then you'll eat food and some of it will come back on on the scale. That's normal, which is why you, but what's happened in that time period is that you've trained your body to be more of a fat burner. So for a lot of people, as they do this more often, it may be,

let's say in that three days, they lost five pounds, but then they gained three back, but they kept too off and it wasn't a failed fast. So their body is learning how to burn fat differently. So now maybe next month, this is why we do it once a month. And to be next once they decide, next month they decide, okay, I'm just going to do one meal a day every day this week. And so they do that. Now they lose two more and they've trained their body even more how to be a fat burner. So it's over time that you're training yourself to your cells to burn energy from fat than to burn it from from the glucose you're constantly giving it. So let's, can we talk and can we talk about, is this for everybody? I mean, people have health issues. Then what are the, who are the people who should not be doing this stuff?

Or you're saying this is good for everybody, no matter this actually helped people with diabetes, it's health to go who are obese with heart disease, right? So who should not be even attempting these things? Yeah, it's a great question. So the first person I always say needs to be lightly kind of back into fasting is the extremely adrenal fatigue person. So if you're already got like chronic fatigue or adrenal fatigue, you're going to I always say like just push your breakfast back an hour and just stick with that. Like just be gentle how you go into this. So that's pretty much the main person that I that I find really has to be gentle with their fasting.

If you're diabetic, you definitely don't want to just listen to a podcast like this and just jump into fasting. You want to involve your doctor in that process. Here's the problem. Most doctors aren't up to speed on the benefits of fasting. But this year, the New England Journal of Medicine came out with this really strong stance and said we have reviewed all the science on intermittent fasting and we are saying that it's good for these conditions and one of the conditions was diabetes.

So now my hope is that because we see it in our resetter group all the time, my hope now is that a patient with diabetes could take that study and go to their doctor and say, hey, here's the science that you that you admire because a New England Journal of Medicine is like medical doctors like, you know, Bible, tell me how I do this. And so it's been really fun because we're seeing the science catch up with the results. But you just have to be coached through it if you have an extreme condition. I have, I'll give you an interesting case. I had a case a few years back where a woman had gone through a series of health problems

and finally got to a point where she couldn't eat anything. She was just throwing everything up. She would try. she would throw up, and she had rashes all over her body. So I actually just started her in a fast right away, and we started three day fast, and then I said, okay, try eating this food, and then she ate, okay, I could eat a little bit more,

and then we did, started doing, after that, we did, okay, can we do like one meal a day, and then we started mixing all the fasts, well within a couple of months, she was able to eat food again, and she stopped throwing it up, because the body just started repairing. So, I don't know what else would have helped this woman,

other than using the tools of fasting, to be able to help her. Do men and women respond differently, because of the hormones and everything else? Yeah. Men, you put them on intermittent fasting, and're like, good, is gone like that. It's so fast. Women take a little longer.

How long does it take for a woman versus a man? Well, it depends. Women are a little more complicated and I can dive into this. It gets a little more nuanced. But if you still have a cycle, there, and this would tie into your question of when not to fast, the week before your cycle is the worst time to fast because your body has to make progesterone. So in order to make progesterone, you need to have glucose be high. And if glucose goes too low or your insulin goes too low, your

body stops making progesterone and it can throw your hormones off. So women just have, there's a little more of an art to fasting for us. If you're doing intermittent fasting, that's not gonna be a huge problem. But if you're gonna go into some of these longer fast for women, they don't wanna do it the week before or their results can be, they can have a lot of side effects, I think,

is the best way. So, and everybody's different. If you're really healthy, you can apply these principles and get quick results. Like someone like you, I'm dying for you to intermittent fast. Because I think you'd be like, oh my God, like I am getting better results than ever. It's starting on Monday. Yeah, and like, no. And like this guy, I'm doing this thing with this company.

It's called Sunfair. And there is called a fat burner diet, it's intermittent fasting. And she's telling me I can't even have like in my coffee. I can't have artificial sweetener, which I get, of course, I know that. Yeah. But I put stevia in my coffee.

He's like, that's considered an artificial. So I didn't even think Stevia was considered artificial. I mean, it's not artificial. Yeah, but it's not artificial. For some people, Stevia can boost, can raise their blood sugar. Oh, wow. So like, but so basically, like, I'm not allowed to do anything. It sounds like it's like the diet's extremely clean and I can only eat until the eight hour window. But so you were saying something that I think was very important earlier,

which was about the kind of foods you can eat. You're saying you don't have to be as strict. You can kind of be much more lenient when you're doing it. Yeah, so this is kind of how I look at it. What I encourage people to do is realize that every day you're going to have a fasting window and you're going to have a needing window.

And so if you intermittent fast regularly, you're probably going to notice that if you've been really regimented with calorie counting and things like that, that you are going to not need to be so regimen it. Like, you might notice, like, I can eat a little bit more. It's pretty interesting. And then the next day, you do it again.

Now, if you want the best result, really care about what you eat. And now you're going to get, that's why I, like I say, someone like you, you already got clean eating. Like, you put some intermittent fasting with that and your results are going to be incredible. Right. It's a game changer. So then, okay, I understand that too. So then, when is it, so you said another thing earlier, which was, if you're doing this 24 hour fast, and you stop at 23 hours, isn't 23 hours enough? Like, if you're close enough, like, is it that at least like you have to be exactly 24 or you're going to be exactly 36.

Like what happens if I break it like my 23 minutes and 30 set, you know, 23 hours, you know, like, does it have to, is there like some kind of like medical thing behind it? That's great. You know, like is it 23 hours was totally a waste of my time. No, it's not. There's no such thing as it failed fast. So because it's going to fail fast though. No, I love how your brain works. And we get questions like this all the time in our resetter group. So I always tell people like, okay, once you hit that 13 hour mark, what happens is that your body's go spitting out ketones, it's going into this repair

phase. So let's say it's like today's Wednesday. So let's say I wake up one day and I'm like, oh man, I want to help repair my gut. So I'm going to do a 24 hour fast today. And you go along and you get to hour 20 and you're like, you can't do it and you stop your fast then. You didn't miss out on the growth hormone. You didn't miss out on the ketones that got produced. You didn't miss out on the autophagy and the detoxing. You just missed out on the intestinal stem cell production. So that's why I think there's no way to lose it this. Each time you try, if you're like, each moment, like we get people who will get, you know, 24 hours in and they're like, I can't do it anymore.

That's fine. But try it again in two weeks and do it again, because each time you try it, it's a little easier and a little easier and eventually your body becomes metabolically flexible. And here's the weird thing, believe me, like I feel like I've done every diet out there and this was the first one that gave me freedom because I could go on vacation and I, like I go to Italy last year at this time I was in Italy. I ate all the pasta I wanted, I drank tons of wine, I had tons of cheese, I did not gain a single pound.

I came home, I just went back to my fasting and that was because I trained my body to be metabolically flexible. So how is that possible but you are not doing any fasting when you were gone, you were eating all that stuff so didn't your body like i would think that what happened is your body would then gain a lot of weight because it's not used to eating all the time whenever it is and so go back to you're either a sugar burner or a fat burner all because you train your body to be a fat burner already so now if if I had stayed there a month, if I had stayed there two months, sure, after a while I would have trained it back to a sugar burner. But it's trained to be a fat burner now. And so if I go off for a week or two, I'm going to be fine. And then I just come back to the habits that got it to be a fat burner in the first place. So how long does it take within, like, within reason to become from a sugar burner to a fat burner?

What's the practice amount that you need? Yeah, I love it. Again, I can't wait. You and I need to talk in a couple of weeks. I'll tell you. Yeah, so I would say on typical and there's some, there's some, like outliers to this, but I would say two to four weeks of intermittent fasting

and you should start to see some changes. Now, if what I would encourage you to do is let's say you go the first week and you're like, okay, the socks, I've no idea what Mindy's talking about, this is horrible. And then the next week, you're like, okay, wait, well, maybe it's not that bad. I'm maybe getting the hang of this. And maybe the third week, a 15 hours comes and you're not

like grabbing the food. You're like, wait a second, maybe I could go a couple more hours. Then I would encourage you to go a little bit longer. So the cool thing about when you click over into this fat burner is part of being a fat burner, part of getting ketones to get secreted is that it shuts your hunger down. So the biggest issue I get with this, and let me tell you, I, for years, I did nutrition and detox with people. I never heard anybody say this, but the problem I have now is most people tell me, I'm just not hungry that I don't, I just don't want to eat. Yeah, or I get, I get so many people in our resetter tribe

that are like, I've been doing this so long, I don't want to lose any more weight. Like, especially people who are like women as we age and we get more wrinkly, you know, if you lose too much weight, the wrinkles show up. So yeah, and we've done this with hundreds of thousands of people and it's like over and over and over again.

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Peloton app available through free tier or page description starting at 12.99 per month. So if someone's like, you know, for morning routines, I talk a ton about morning routines, right? And that I find it's really important to have one. And my morning routine is eating breakfast, which is why I think it's a big hump for me. It probably a lot of other people like, I'm so used to my morning routine of eating what

I eat, but eating the same thing for 20 years, which is a whole other thing. And I like it because it makes, it puts me, it's on autopilot. So let's say, what's my option then? If I want to eat my breakfast, that means I have to eat dinner at what, four o'clock? Basically, to get that window, right? Yeah, as you want to eat, as good as saying, you can do it the other way around.

You got it, right. You could skip dinner and then just get up and eat breakfast. A lot of people do that. Is it caught? Is it which was more effective than what you see? Well, actually, if you wanted to lose weight, the second way could be more effective because if you eat dinner and you go to sleep with a full meal, your body's not burning that meal at all. So it's really not in your best interest to eat dinner and go to sleep an hour later. So if you stop at four and then you eat breakfast,

yeah, that might be a great plan for you. And you're gonna be burning fat at night. Like that could be a really solid plan. What's the latest I can push it to make it effective? What time do you eat breakfast? Around 8.45, let's say. Just 8.30. That's what I got to work that out.

Yeah, okay, let's say 8.30. So that would be 8 hours. So 4.30. No, no, no, no, you could go. Because you want to go about 15 hours. If I can get you to go 15 hours, then you would go because you want to go about 15 hours if I can get you to go 15 hours then you would go eight yeah I got a math seven so five thirty. So am I allowed, I know you're going to say, aren't you not just me but are people, what happens when you snack?

Like I'm hungry but I don't want, I won't eat a lot, I'll have like an apple or I'll have like a thick, does that just throw off the whole, even that window, right? Like once you've put food in, it's done deal. It's done, all the benefits are done. So think of it like this, as insulin and glucose are coming down, so you eat a meal, you get glucose that comes up, that pancreas makes insulin,

and then there's a point where it peaks, and now it's coming down, down, down, down, down. So as it goes down, it'll hit a spot where all of a sudden it triggers all these great things that we talked about. It triggers all of the chemical reactions. But if you have a little bit of an apple there, now you bring it back up and you miss out on all of this.

I have a really cool chart. I'll send you a link. You can pass it on to your listeners. It's called a fasting benefits chart. And it shows all the things that are happening at the different hours. So you can come to me. It's really, it's where you put that to me. I will.

That's great. This and the other thing I feel is also how do you socialize? I mean, with life now, I mean, now with the whole COVID thing, it's a little bit maybe easier, but things are opening up and changing back to normal. There's a, there's a really like, I guess like it's kind of a hindrance when you want to socialize. You want to go to, you want to have dinner with your family and friends. A lot of what people do is around food for family, especially in the weekends or whatever. Birthday party.

There's always a location. And when you're Jewish like me, everything's about food. Yeah. You know, how do you reconcile those two things? You know, well, so there's a couple of suggestions. One is so I don't, my fasting is mostly done in the early part of the day. So dinner is no problem. I can go out to dinner with anybody. So you might have to decide, I'm going to have dinner tonight with my family. So that means tomorrow morning. I'll skip breakfast So you might have to kind of think about a different. Yeah, so I don't ever have a problem with that Sometimes like when my daughter's home from college and they want to go out to eat breakfast I might just decide that day. Yeah, it's more important the relationship with her

Let's go eat breakfast and and I just won't fast today So that's why we call it a fasting lifestyle so you can be playful with when you do it when you don't Now the other thing I will tell you that happened to me and I see it with our resetters is that as you get Better and better results people start asking you what you're doing and Then they want to do it with you. So now, I mean, all our friends fast. So there's no, it's just like, it's just like, okay. And we, in fact, even here in my clinic,

like when it's lunchtime, sometimes I'll go to my staff and go, okay, I'm gonna go break my fast, are you fasting? Do you wanna come with me? Like it just, it just becomes part of your lingo. And some of them will say, no, I'm gonna to go 24 today. And so then we just, I don't come in and bring food in front of them.

But yeah, it's, there's a huge flexibility with it. I understand that you know, it's like also with working out, right? Like it also water finds its level. You gravitate to people who have similar interests, right? So a lot of people I'm friends with also like to work out. I mean, it's just because it's like things that you have similar interests, right? So a lot of people I'm friends with also like to work out. I mean, it's just because it's like things that you have in common, right? So I understand that, but I guess it's more people

with young kids. I mean, do you see a lot of women or men who have young kids who are able to do this as easily as people who are kind of with their kids already older or single people. I mean, I do find that that would be a person that would have a little more difficulty, right? Yeah, for sure. So here's the feedback that I've heard from people

is that I'm making food for my kids. It's really hard to fast. So you have to decide. Some people say, well, I wasn't even really hungry in the morning anyways. I don't have a problem making them breakfast. And so I'll just skip breakfast. So you have to decide what moment is the easiest moment for you to avoid the food.

Most people tell me dinner. They're like, it's really hard for, like if they do a three day water fast, they'll say, it's really hard to make dinner. They're like, it's really hard for, like if they do a walk a three day water fast, they'll say it's really hard to make dinner. So, and I get that in that scenario, you could just say, you know, I'm out hubby or, you know, your spouse, like, you make dinner, I'm out. We have our kids are teens, so we, they joke when when we, when we fast, we just say, can you go to a friend's house, here's door dash, like, there will be no dinner for the next three days. So they know they kind of are used to us now.

Right. So and then the third one and I think this is actually a really, really legit one is I've had a lot of mothers of teenage daughters say, no, I don't want to show deprivation of food in front of my daughter. I don't want to set her up for any kind of eating disorders. And I totally honor that. So a lot of our patients will just keep it quiet. You know, your kids actually aren't really noticing what you're eating. For the most part, your teens might, but you just don't,

you just keep it quiet. Oh, I'm just not gonna eat dinner right now. So. How are you able to exercise when you're doing these fastings? Like, is it that you have enough? I mean, I know you say part of the benefits are focus, energy, alert, but do have, do you have legit enough energy to like go running to go weightlifting? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. On the shorter fast, not on three day water fast. So in fact, I tell people don't exercise on your three to three to three to five-day water fast. You're crazy. We have people try, but what happens is your body's already going into this repair stage. It's already under stress as it's in these longer fasts. So don't go exercise. That's not a great idea. But in the shorter fast, yeah, no problem. Do you remember, I was saying this to somebody the other day, what was the guy he wrote a book? It was called like Body for Life years ago.

And he had a contest. So long ago. Do you remember that on the inside, the cover was all his pre and post pictures and he gave a million dollars away to anybody who, you know, the people who had the biggest change? I kind of, I remember the body for life guy. I don't remember the contest though.

There was a, what was the contest? I, it was like the biggest, it was like the person who lost the most weight and they had to do pre and post pictures. They had to follow his formula. It was a book back when we, you know, would read books all the time. We had a stuff. And the person with the greatest result got he gave a million dollars to. And I don't know how he had a million dollars or if it was a

sponsorship or what, but I tell you all this to tell you that this was one of his secrets. Always work out on an empty stomach. So yeah, you know what, I know I hear that a million, I hear that all the time obviously because but because, but again, I feel like maybe, I think for some people, it works, and for other people, it doesn't work, because I get, again, I'm so trained to like have something in my stomach where I will get nauseous if I don't eat something.

I won't be able to work out as hard if I don't eat something. But like, I know people say that all the time. So look at it like this. This is why we call it fast training week. When the workouts you're doing now, we're not the workouts you did five years ago. Like you were probably not as maybe you were, but you know, you typically progress along the fitness path. You get stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger. So this is a, I'm getting weaker, weaker, weaker.

I'm not trying to try this. So, again, I, I, I want to go into, I want to move in with you and be like, and then once you get fat adapted and you get the results, I'll, I'll, I'll back away. Okay. I'm excited to try this. I'm, I'm like petrified, but I'm also excited. But anybody who's, I mean, if you've ever run a marathon before, it's like the thought of running, you know, 26 point,

whatever miles is like, no way if you've never run a mile. So it's impossible from where you sit, but once you taste the, how well your body body functions once you get over that hump. Yeah. All these longer fast you'll start craving them. This is the smell of the leftover tuna fish sandwich you left in your lunch box over the weekend in a wimpy trash bag. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy, wimpy! Yeah!

And this is the smell of that same sandwich in a hefty ultra-strong trash bag. Ha, smell the difference. Hefty ultra-strong has armen hemorrh with continuous odor control, so no matter what's inside your trash. You can stay one step ahead of stinky. And for bigger jobs, try the superior strength of hefty large black bags. I mean, I'm excited. I'm trying to think what else I can ask you.

I know about the health benefits, the braid benefits. So you're saying in the braid, it changes. It helps with your focus obviously. It helps you with your, your, it helps with your body's inflammation and helps with being more alert. Is there something else that, what else does it help with all the other things

you're mentioning also with, it changes your cells? What else? Yeah, so let's dive into the brain because I think the brain is really interesting. So if you look at like Alzheimer's and dementia, what and memory loss like in my clinic, we're seeing so many people in their 40s coming in with memory loss. It's crazy. So what happens, like if you look at Alzheimer's, they're saying that it's diabetes of the brain. So the dendrites that carry information across a path to be able to get you to think clearly, those are decaying and degenerating. And so what they're degenerating and decaying from our two things. One is too much sugar

and the second is too many toxins. So this is why I'm like the one food requirement I have is I'm a zealot for no toxins. So it causes these neurons to shrink. Now you don't you for the 40-year-old, it might be that all of a sudden you're in a conversation and you're like, what was I telling you? What was I talking about? Or you walk into a room and you're like, why was I here? Like it starts off really subtle. For the 50, 60-year-old, it's like they are losing whole memory, memories of childhood, and then eventually short-term memory because these neurons are degenerating. So now you come into a fasting lifestyle and you start making ketones and you make BDNF which is like fertilizer for your brain. And the brain is so smart and it will gobble those ketones up and the BDNF will start to

be like it's like miracle grow in the brain and these degenerated neurons will regenerate. And the brain power you get from fasting is freaking insane because you're literally using ketones as a major source of fuel for the brain. Plus, there's a regenerative neuroprotective piece. So if we could get all the Alzheimer's dementia people fasting, you know, there's a guy who wrote a book. He's actually out of was a researcher at UCLA and he wrote a book called The End of the End to Alzheimer's. And one of his major principles was ketones. You got to make yourself some ketones. So that's it. That's a really amazing point. I think just for that, because you know when you were saying that it resonated, there's so many times,

even on this podcast where I'm like, what was I gonna say? I wanted to ask this, like, I don't have dementia yet, but there's like, you know, there's little subtle things where I'm like forgetting certain things. When my memory, that was like my thing. I had a perfect memory. That's when I got to college, you know,

my master's, my undergrad, because I memorized everything. And you're this, actually, I've read that, but this is actually by it's by fasting or doing these fasting. This is what a key factor that happens. Yeah. My dad, obviously, that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I. I was like, my kids used to joke with us all the time that one of the characteristics of our family is that we end a conversation. So I'll be talking, I'll be like, um, and then we don't finish the conversation. And my kids used to always say,

you and my sister do this all the time. And then all of a sudden, once I started fasting, my dad looked at me one day and he goes, you know what? Like, I don't remember you were so damn smart. Like, it's a funny thing, but he's like, what's going on with your brain? Like, you don't um, you don't stop your conversations,

your ability to retain information. Like, what are you doing? I don't remember that you being like that, which was sort of a backhanded insult, but it's my dad, right? So yeah, yeah, I don't remember that you being like that, which was sort of a backhanded insult, but it's my dad, right? So yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. But it's true, like my ability to hold on to information now is greater at 50 than it's ever been in my entire life.

So, and it's because, like, it's those ketones, it's the neuroprotection every single day, like right now, I can tell you, I've got got maximum my ketones are kicking in So now they go in my brains using them for fuel But they're also repairing any injured injured neurons that would cause me problems down the red Wow, what are any other braid benefits for your brain? He's dying. Well, don't mean so let's talk about dopamine because this is also interesting I don't have you heard of dopamine fasting?

Not really, tell now. I'm really new Jennifer. You and I got it. We got to go hang out. I got a whole world. I've got to use YouTube. I do. Yeah.

That's very world. Yeah. Okay. So dopamine. So one of the feelings that they have right now about the generation growing up, but just all of us is that we're so addicted to social media, to our phones, to the bells, the whistles, that we are over-stimulating our dopamine receptor sites. It's like insulin resistance where we now have dopamine resistance, which looks like a joyful thing is going on in my life,

but I'm not experiencing joy at the same level that I used to experience joy before. And I will tell you this actually has happened to me prior to fasting. Like I could be sitting on the beach with my family and like there's nothing to be unhappy about. And I'm like why am I not feeling immense joy right now? And a lot of that has to do with this dopamine resistance.

So one of the cool things about fasting when you do 24 to 48 hours is that you actually reboot those receptor sites. So because you're it's just like insulin when in order to get out of insulin resistance, you got to bring down the insulin. And then when you bring insulin back in, those receptor sites are more available. It's the same thing with dopamine. When you're fasting, you're not getting the reward of eating. So you're not getting dopamine production. And so something as simple as a 24, 48 hour fast and you've now regenerated those receptor sites and you will experience joy differently.

That's incredible. Right. So that is amazing. So I thought also the dopamine, what you were just saying, I thought it was going to be also about like social media. Well, if you add in the media media dopamine hit. Yep. Yeah. If you don't get it, you're so used to that, whoops, spikes over it, like, you know,

I got a like, I got this, I got that. And then it just dips. Yeah. So, yeah. This isn't, and then go ahead. So, it's the way. You know, like what we talk a lot about in the resetter group is when you go into a longer fast, try to just go in.

Like you will notice in like the three day fast that you just don't want to talk as much. We encourage people that if there's anything that they are like struggling with in life, just put it out there. Like I'm struggling with this. I hope the answer comes to me. And it's crazy how if you take all that sensory input you put the phone down during that time you like just go in or and you add the fasting to that there is it's like I mean it everybody has different spiritual beliefs but it is like a spiritual experience and then when you come out of it you you're a different person. Physically, mentally, you have more insight, more clarity. I'm telling you, most people start to get addicted to this because of the benefit they're

seeing mentally, physically, on their life. Not to mention it's so much more convenient. Like, I can take a CEO and tell them how to fast. And they're like, this is so great. I just got all this time back. And so it just becomes this incredible gift for the whole person, not just weight loss. That's another thing that I didn't even touch upon with you is what happens in these three or five day fast?

Are there rules or is it just like you can still go about your business and then you just don't eat but you're besides you're saying no exercise other than that Go you know try to go inward What is there anything else that people have to do to prepare or? Yeah, yeah, so for starters make sure you've done other fast going up to it. Yeah, right But there's in on the resetter grip We have like three three really or a couple really strong rules. One is you always measure your blood sugar. So this might

also be something interesting for you. If you haven't measured your blood sugar, take get a little blood reader. We like keto mojo. That's the you can go to my website, Dr. Mindy Pels and go to Dr. Mindy's favorites. there's a ketomodo link there. And when you go into the fast, you want to measure it three times a day, morning, noon, and night. You're looking for your blood sugar to be between 70 and 90. So for someone like you, before if you're just doing intermittent fasting, what I would tell you to do is take your blood sugar in the morning and you would

do blood sugar and ketones. And see, are you between 70 and 90 and do you are your ketones above 0.5? That might be you already right now, especially if you stopped eating at like 530 at night, I'd be interested to see what your morning blood sugar and ketones are. But then, as you're in a longer fast, in a water fast, we have people do this at 8 a.m., noon and night, and we have some warning signs. So if your blood sugar ever drops below 50 or your ketones ever get above 7, you break the fast. So that's kind of like we have some boundaries.

So, because it's hard, you can feel bad. The weird thing about fasting is let's say you can feel bad one moment and then you get a ketone search and all of a sudden like 20 minutes later, you're so high, so much energy, you feel amazing. It's really weird. You're just looking for that switch. So we go back to the blood reader

to see what your blood is doing so that you can make smart choices. So like you said, for me, if my blood level of sugar is not between 70 and 90, then what? I see. If you were over 90, and your ketones were under 0.5, then you're definitely not in ketosis. Okay, and that's fast. And then what?

So fast more. I got a fast more. Okay, so I would say like, like, let's say you decide to do stop eating at 5.30 and then you eat at 8.30. And you do that for a week. And at 8.20, you check your blood rateer and you're at like 100 and 0.2. And you do that for a while. And then you're like, again, I'm gonna give you myself because I really want to see you succeed with this.

So yeah, so then you're like, well, this doesn't work. I'm not getting into ketosis. And typically what I say is, okay, could we push your dinner up now? Could you, could you end your dinner up now to, could you, could you end it at 430? Let's see if we move you into a little longer fast. Because you're, you're trying to move the needle from the sugar burner over to the fat burner. I love all this. This is so fascinating.

To knit. Yeah. It really is. I mean, I think, I, this, and it's been like over an hour and I, I know you had another something else to do. But this is great. I think, listen, it's been like over an hour and I know you had another something else to do. But this is great. I think this, would you please send me that ski? Yes, I will. Yeah. What's it called again, the, it's Z, my memory. I'm going to start.

No, this is why you love to keep in touch with me and tell me how you do. I absolutely will. Yeah, we call it the fasting benefits chart. And it's funny. One day, people had a lot of questions like you do. And one day, I was like, I just, I'm a visual learner. So I was like, I have to put this all out on a chart for people so they can see how,

how what they're doing at the different times. So we did that and then I have a YouTube channel. And I just went to YouTube and I'm like, okay, you guys, if you want this chart, let me know. Oh my gosh, like people called this chart, let me know. Oh my gosh. Like, people called my office, people stocked, my personal email, like people like, I need the chart.

I still, I'll be on podcast interviews and people will hold the chart up. They're like, oh my God, I have this on my refrigerator. So it was a very beloved chart and I will send it to you. Oh my God. I'm sure because there's so much information and the problem is a lot of times that like you get so much information You don't understand the information and it becomes so overwhelming you end up doing nothing and just kind of like going about your business

That's why it's very important to have a meet you on the visual learner. I like to see in front of me. Okay, so if I do this This is what happens to my body and this is the this is the I get to this place, this is what's going to happen. So I have a reminder of it, right? Yeah. Please send me that. That would be so helpful. How do people find out more about what you do and watch your videos and everything else?

Please share. All my fasting stuff is on my YouTube channel. So go to Dr. Mindy Pels and you can just binge watch all the fasting. And don't, if you're a science hound, I always link all the science articles in the notes. So go check that out because I find people kind of don't believe it like you, you know, they're like, huh? And then I'm like, okay, go look at the science. So that's a place to go on. If you want to do our fast training week, you can join our reset or collaborative. It's called it's on Facebook.

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