Haunted Cosmos - A Demon Followed Her Family?!
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In this episode of the Graveyard Shift,
we talked to another one of our anonymous friends
about the demonic generational curse that has afflicted her family
and the way the Lord Jesus Christ is bringing it to an end.
My aunt in Mexico is an act of witch that you can go see to get healed from.
And it was outside the house.
And I remember hearing it like knock on my house.
window. He tells Satan the whole plan. The seed of the woman is going to crush your head. That's the
plan. Yeah. Satan therefore is like, aha, so all I have to do is corrupt the seed of the woman. The seed of the
woman. The demons would be confronted with Christ in the gospels. They'd be like, oh, please, it's not our time. Yeah.
Like, they even know they're cooked. This is the first time that I actually ever heard my mom pray.
I just remember her clothing her eyes and folding her hands and she just said, God, please keep him safe.
Well, welcome everybody to this special haunted cosmos edition of the Graveyard Shift, where we are interviewing people who have crazy stories of the supernatural paranormal and talking about it from a Christian perspective.
I'm, of course, your host, Brian Sovey, joined by my host, Ben Garrett.
Hugh Jackman.
No, if you do it, I will leave.
Hello.
I will leave.
No, my name is Ben Garrett.
I'm happy to be here.
and who's our guest today, Brian?
Well, we are joined by a very special guest.
Now, many of our guests in this series
want to remain anonymous,
and so we are respecting that
by again telling you their full name
and Social Security in the description.
But here in the episode,
we're actually just going to call our guest today, Brittany.
Welcome to the show, Brittany.
Thanks for having me.
It is so good to have you on the show today, Brittany.
It is weird to call you Brittany.
I'm not going to lie. Once again, we know our anonymous guests and calling them by a different name is weird. Calling them anonymous is weird. Yeah. But Brittany's here. And Brittany, let me ask you something. Yeah. When did you first get exposed to kind of the world of high strangeness or was it like experience that brought you into it? Or did you ever become interested in like Discovery Channel as a kid like we were? So the day was August 1990. Wow. Wow. That's actually the day.
was born. Okay. Okay. So from the very beginning, you've been like a diehard. I love how like we're
anonymous. Here's my exact. Here's my birthday. Oh yeah. And what is your current home address?
I live in. No. Actually, my family is really rooted in witchcraft. Really? I've been exposed to
high strangeness since I can remember like five, six years. So yours is an interesting perspective because
it's like that was just kind of the water that you were drinking from as a, like living as a
child versus some fringe interest that a lot of us had like Brian and I as a fringe interest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you kind of bring a set of seriousness teeth.
Yeah.
To the issue.
I was born in it, shaped by it.
You're the bane of Hanna Cosmos.
Yeah.
Not in a bad way.
Like, I mean, you're not a villain and you're not like the bane in like a monkey.
wrench.
Yes.
Yeah.
Everyone knows exactly what I mean.
Everybody's following you exactly,
Ben.
It wasn't confusing at all.
I almost forgot your fake name for a minute.
Brittany,
how long have you been listening to Haunted Cosmos?
How long have it been going?
Since March 2020.
Thank you.
Since March 2020.
Wow.
Let's go.
We got a lifer.
We've got another lifer on our hands here.
Excellent.
What is your favorite?
This is actually an interview just about us.
Just about Mount Cosmos at this point.
No, what is your favorite episode?
My favorite episode is the one about Diatloff Pass.
Oh.
Wow.
See, that shows a certain level of intellectual, like, prowess.
Because that is just a good story.
Yeah, that's like, you know, Dave Portnoy would really love the episode on Skinwalker Ranch, right?
I don't even know what that means.
But, like, Plato would really love DiOtlaught Pass.
Dude, let's be honest,
Plato would love all of our ones.
We got Martina McBride laughing at that one.
Welcome to show Martina McBride
back in the controller booth over there.
That's right.
Well, before we totally ruin this episode,
why don't we just say,
Brittany, tell us your story,
whatever starting point,
whatever pace you want to go.
We're going to try not to interrupt you.
We might ask a question here and there,
but we just want to hear what your experience
or experiences have been.
And then we'll talk
about them a little bit maybe afterward. Yeah.
Sure. Okay.
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My family is really thick into Catholicism on both sides, my mom and my dad.
But my mom's side has like a weird, they call it Bruehadias, which I don't know.
It's like witchcraft.
my aunt in Mexico is an active witch that you can go see to get healed from.
Like a witch doctor?
Yeah, like a witch doctor.
I have never met her thanks to my father.
So shout out to him.
Yeah.
They talk about her a lot.
And when my grandpa got sick,
I think my first interaction where I was more aware of what was going on was he got sick and had a few strokes.
and the doctors were like,
you just need to stop drinking alcohol.
And he was like, nah,
my sister can definitely help me out here.
So he went to Mexico and had her do a ritual over him,
and he described it as like,
kind of the scariest thing that he'd ever seen.
I guess, from what I remember,
she, like, decapitated a chicken over his body
and did some rituals.
She has a bunch of stuff.
I'm not sure what was in the stuff.
He spared me those details.
But yeah, he came back home and he was great for like a month.
He had no strokes.
He could drink like a fish.
Not a problem.
But like everything that's not from God, right, it was bad.
So he had like six strokes that next month.
Oh my goodness.
He piled it all up.
Yeah, we're lucky that he was, he's still living.
But yeah, that was the first time I had ever heard like what our family really
I think I was like five or six.
And I remember him telling me that.
And he looked me dead in my eyes and said,
if you don't believe in God, you really should.
Because I've seen things that nobody should see.
And I'm not really sure what that meant.
Is this some kind of like Mexican, Roman Catholic hybrid kind of syncretism?
Yeah, I would say so.
Because my dad's Catholic and his family is Catholic.
And they believe in weird.
things, but nothing as weird as
witchcraft.
Yeah. Interesting.
Yeah, that was, I would say, the first
one that I had in my memory. And then the second one
was, I actually did a story for you.
I'll say it again, but
we had moved into our own house
because we were living with my grandparents at the time.
And I was
five, six,
all of this kind of happened pretty close together.
but my dad or sorry my mom's brother passed away he had hung himself in the backyard in the shed and so
that was really hard for my mom but just like everything else in our family whenever someone
dies they always come to visit and what I didn't put together the dead ones the dead's the dead ones
come to visit and I didn't put it together until actually hearing the episode on hatman
they always said they came to visit wearing a hat.
Whoa.
My, you know, grandpa, my uncle, cousins, my mom's sister, she got hit by a car when she was young.
But when she came to visit a member of our family, they always had a hat on and that's how they knew.
And like, I don't know if you know Mexicans, but we like to wear cowboy hats.
So they always were like, that makes sense that they were wearing a hat to let us know what was them.
So after my uncle died, my mom woke up.
She looked at the alarm clock and it was way past when my dad was supposed to be at work.
So she, you know, elbows him and it's like, wake up, wake up, you're late for work in a panic.
He's not budging.
He's not moving.
So she goes, flips the lights on and nobody's in the bed with her.
Dude.
Wait, but she was elbowing him.
She was elbowing him.
She was shaking him awake.
And my dad's a light sleeper and has always been.
So she was like, man, he must be dead or something.
Something must be wrong.
So she flipped the lights on.
He wasn't there.
She's panicked.
She calls him because she's thinking, there's someone in my house.
Someone's under my bed.
Yeah.
You know, so she grabs me.
She locks us in a room.
She calls him.
And he's like, I've been at work since five this morning.
It's now like 7.30.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then he was like, well,
I'll come home and check things out, comes, checks things out, nothing's wrong.
No one's there.
So she tells my grandparents, right, her mom and dad, and they're like, it was just your brother
coming to visit you, which even if that was true, why would he be in your bed?
That's weird.
Yeah.
That's a very non-cool way to visit.
On multiple levels.
Theologically wrong, socially wrong.
Yeah.
Just awkward at best.
Super awkward.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
That's just how they rationed things.
but after that, I hadn't learned how to tie my shoes yet.
I hadn't started school yet.
And my dad's shoes, his work boots would get tied together in like a neat bow.
And he would be like, oh, it was Brittany.
It was Brittany.
It was Brittany.
It was so sorry.
It's Brittany.
It's Brittany.
Like tied together like what bullies used to do where the laces from either shoe are tied together?
To be honest with you, I don't remember because I was so young.
But my mom said that both laces were tied together.
Okay.
So.
I mean, either way.
Yeah.
I guess it's just curious.
But you couldn't have done the knot.
I couldn't have done that not.
And they were just like assuming.
Well, my dad was because my dad is not a believer, believe it or not.
He's not a believer in the supernatural.
At all.
At all.
He not until recently was religious.
But he's always been like, no, no ghosts, no demons, no God, no Satan.
We're just here kind of evolutionists.
Yeah.
So he was like, no, there's no way that this is supernatural.
But we also, because we're Hispanic, had big speakers in our house, played music loudly all the time.
I love how you just casually dropped that.
That we, you know, we're Hispanic.
So JBLs.
Sometimes mom would hit me with a flip-flop and there were JBLs everywhere.
She never missed.
But yeah, the big speakers, well, the reason I bring that up,
because I remember at she, well, she told me,
I just remember waking up from it,
but at three in the morning, every morning for a while,
the speakers would turn on full blast,
just like loud music, woke everybody up,
woke me up, woke my little brother up.
And so she was always like, you know, it's just my brother.
Was it Mariachi?
No.
You don't want to know the time of music.
We said we weren't going to know.
I know, I'm sorry.
I just couldn't.
She would say it was your brother.
Yeah, it was her brother.
It was her brother.
Yeah, her brother letting him know that, you know, they're around or whatever.
Well.
Case you forgot.
Case you forgot.
Here I am.
I'm still around watching over you.
Well, yeah.
So that's what would happen.
And the last thing that caused us to move, actually, was my brother was like three at the time.
And we were redoing my room.
So she was even changing like door knobs and stuff.
Well, my brother was in the living room.
Me and her were in my room, and the door just like slammed shut.
No windows were open, nothing like that.
And then she couldn't get the door open, like was slamming it, pushing it.
And we were in a two-story house, so the jump was like, no, we weren't going to do that.
There was no way.
Plus, her and my dad were putting in a floor trampoline.
So we had dug a huge hole right underneath my wife.
window. So the jump is even further now. So we're like, shoot, there's no balcony. There's nothing we can
jump on to. So she's screaming, my neighbor, we lived in a townhouse. So we shared a wall. And for funsies,
because they had kids my age, we would always like say things to the wall. And you could pretty,
like, you could hear. Yeah. It was mumbly, muffly, whatever, but you could hear. So we knew that
our neighbor was home because he worked from home. So we're banging on the wall and he could not hear us.
said. Like he couldn't hear. That's weird. Yeah. So we're like, why is going on? But we knew he was
home because we had just talked to him when we brought in some stuff to redo my room. So my mom,
you know, told my brother's come to the door and he's upset. And so she tells him, like, go
next door and get our neighbor. And she's like, her, like hysterical. She's in tears. I'm in
tears because I'm scared. Yeah. And so my brother goes next door. I don't know how he made it.
it over there because I have, I've had a three-year-old.
And I would never send them to the neighbor's house.
I don't even send my three-year-old upstairs on his house.
No, no.
They won't even return.
Where'd they go?
Yeah, yeah, right?
So he went next door to get the neighbor and we hear the neighbor after, honestly, it
probably was three or four minutes, but it felt like we were in there for hours.
Yeah.
So my mom, this is the first time that I actually ever heard my mom pray.
because my brother was gone and she was scared and I was scared with all these other things happening.
I just remember her closing her eyes and folding her hands and she just said, God, please keep him safe, you know.
And so I was like, well, that's weird. I didn't grow up praying or anything.
So I was the first I'd ever seen that.
But the neighbor came.
He was like calling for my mom.
And she was like, we're in here banging on the door, trying to open it, didn't open.
And so my mom took a step back
And she was like, can you try to open the door?
And he turned the knob and it opened.
Just like effortless.
It just effortlessly opened
Because we had just replaced my door, right?
Like we had just gotten a new door for me.
And so my mom's like, I don't want you to break it down right away.
Could you try maybe opening it yourself
and then maybe getting some tools?
And he was like, well, let me see what the problem is and just open the door.
He's like, wow.
That's like like movie.
polter guys stuff. It is. It's like a movie finished. That's crazy.
Just yeah. So you guys almost, it was almost like you were in a bubble. Yeah.
Where sound wasn't getting out. It wasn't acting normally like that room normally would have acted.
Yeah. Yeah. So we actually ended up being really good friends with those neighbors for a long time.
My parents actually still talk to them. But they told us after we moved because my mom and dad had had it.
like it was causing a lot of tension between them, obviously, because one's a believer and one's not.
And now my mom's kind of suspicious of who's being around, you know?
So she decided, like, let's sell the house, so let's move somewhere else.
And I'm telling you it was the house because we only moved like a block over.
So she thought it was a house.
The neighbors that we used to live by said, we were afraid to tell you because we knew you were super into like the supernatural,
but a man died in that house before you guys,
before you guys lived there and he was old and his dogs ate him because no one found him.
Oh, boy.
You know, that just fed into my mom's whole thing.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's creepy.
Which I don't think that's who it was, you know.
Right.
Obviously.
Obviously.
Yeah.
But that's who she thought was harassing her.
She was like, maybe it was my brother at first, but then this ghost saw the opportunity to harass me.
because I was open to it.
Yeah, yeah.
That was the first house that we lived in.
What's your testimony?
How did you become a Christian?
It's kind of embarrassing.
So I was dating this guy in high school,
and he was a Christian,
and he knew I was atheist at the time,
if you could even call it that,
just super annoying.
And he took me to,
I don't know if you ever heard of them
for King and Country.
Yeah, the band.
Yeah.
So they were doing their priceless movement,
at the time. I don't remember that. It was like, every woman is priceless and us as men should
like honor them and raise them up kind of thing, which is like, they went a little too far because
like, we're not. It was a little cheesy. Yeah. It was a little white. Try me. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Wow. Wow. Wow. That was too easy. That was too easy. Anyway. They had taken me to that concert and I was
just so annoyed. I'm like, I'm going to go to this concert and it's going to be a bunch of violins and
a bunch of cheesy music, which it was. They had a, I guess, kind of like a tiny sermon about
women and why you are worthy. And it's because our God, our father thinks that you are,
and he made you and created you. And I'd never heard that before, believe it or not. I grew up in a
culture where it was like, women have babies and they sit in the kitchen and they shut up and they're
not, they're like, they're kind of like workers, which is, I was a super feminist when I went there
too. So I was like, this is annoying. But yeah, I was interested in because I'm just going to put it
out there because I'm anonymous. I am a full-blown Calvinist. So I don't think that the music was
super attractive. I just think I heard the gospel for the first time. And it's like, this is
it. This is what I want to do. So he took me to a church and so. And we went there for a long time.
And that's just kind of where I met my current husband, my only husband.
Yeah. Husband. My husband, who I love. Great guy. Was he the, was he the boyfriend?
No. So actually, my husband was in, I hope he doesn't get mad for me showing this. He was in Bible
college in California. Why would he get mad? Because.
Because it's gay.
Okay.
You heard it first here, folks.
It's like Bible College.
Believe it or not, gay.
Which is, it sucks for me because I went to Bible.
Oh, my gosh.
I dropped out.
Did you?
Like the straightest thing he could do.
So straight.
Anyway.
But yeah, he went to Bible College out there.
And so while I was seeing this other person, he was gone.
And when we broke up, he came back.
So there was like no overlap.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah.
So I stayed a Christian and the person I was seeing actually straight away.
So I actually don't know what happened to them after that.
Wow.
But it just, that's how it started.
And then I, we deep dived.
Okay, so let me ask you this.
Yeah.
Because first of all, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot to talk about with those stories.
But before I forget, there was another story that one time you, Brittany, mentioned to me,
that it was like your mom, I think, screaming at a wall or something?
So, yeah, I wanted to tell you that.
So we moved to this second house.
Yeah.
And there's really not many stories that are big enough to tell you about.
But you could just figure everything that was happening in the old house I just told you about was happening in this house.
Oh, okay.
And yeah, it just didn't cease to happen.
And my dad and mom separated at the time.
just kind of left there to deal with my mom who then got into substance abuse.
Oh, no.
And so we ended up losing her house and moving again.
And that's where things got worse.
And I don't know if it was worse because, well, it was worse probably because a lot of things
because her substance abuse got so bad, but because I became a Christian at that time.
Oh, yeah.
So I wasn't allowed to go to church when I explained to her what I had learned and I was excited
about the gospel and explaining what I've been learning.
I don't know if you know, if you grew up Christian or what,
but like when you become a Christian,
you're just like so excited to tell people about it.
You're like, listen.
There's this guy called Jesus and he died for our sins.
So we're like off the hook.
Like all your sins.
It's all free.
Yeah.
He forgives you.
Can you believe it?
They're gone.
You don't even have to do anything.
They're just gone.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
They're just like everybody needs to know that.
Repent and believe.
And you're like you don't have to.
bear it anymore. And I thought that would be great, you know, for my mom. But she, she didn't like it.
And she told me that I wasn't allowed to go to church anymore. So, um, I actually had to lie and say I was
going to work and I would go to church and then go to work. Like I'm just working on the Sabbath mom.
Yeah. I would legit work on church. I would, because I kind of was convicted about not working on Sunday
because I wanted to go to church, but that was the only way I could go. Yeah. So I was,
I was like, I took Sunday ships for the rest of my life.
So that you could work and then go to church or go to church and work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So at that point, I have a reading disorder.
Or is it disorder?
Reading problem?
I don't know.
Can't read.
What are you looking at Martina?
Because does he also have a disorder?
I don't know.
Do you?
Ah.
I have dyslexia.
And so in order for me to retain information, I have to read out loud.
which is like low-key embarrassing
but I read out loud
and she would get so aggravated at me
she would scream at me
just like reading the Bible
yeah we just read out loud
and she would like
well it was kind of normal
so it wasn't that big of a deal to me
but she would like throw things at me
and just be like shut up
I don't want to hear it anymore
I'm like I'm just reading
nobody reads in this house
do you have a reading problem
is like what she said
about the sun
shut up about the sun
Of God.
She wouldn't.
Yeah.
That is, first of all,
sorry, terrible.
Yeah.
I mean, wicked and evil just normally,
but it was like particularly even,
she just didn't want to hear the Bible too.
She did not want to hear the Bible.
I tried to drag her to church,
bribe her to church,
and she just was not having it.
But she would go to Catholic church,
which she's not a good Catholic.
So I don't know why she stands by it.
She's like, the Catholic church is the right church.
And I'm like, that's true.
Then you're in trouble.
To be clear, the Catholics wouldn't be down with what you're doing to be.
To be clear, that your priest would say, you need to stop.
Please stop.
Well, I did go to a priest because we grew up going to a Catholic church.
And I was baptized in a Catholic church.
So when my mom was dealing with a bunch of stuff and I was young and I was too young to be dealing with all of it,
I didn't feel comfortable going to my pastor about it because I didn't.
know him. So I was like, I'll just go to the priest who knows me my whole life. And he was like,
your mother's going to die. Your mother's going to die and she's going to hell. And like,
there's nothing you can do about that. If she doesn't come around, maybe try, have you tried
giving more? Wait, what? Does your dad still give? Even though he's not around. It's like,
no. Wait, like, how old are you? I was 16. Look, I know. He's like, I know you've been working on
Sundays. Look, I know that the indulgence thing really gets blown out of proportion. But that is
pretty close to the stereotype. When the coin in coffer rings, then your mom, the soul from purgatory
sings. Springs. And here's the thing, too, is I was explaining to, oops, can you blurt that out?
That's okay. I was explaining to my husband last night when we were going over the story about
some Catholic things.
And he made aware to me that they're not.
So we would buy actually sage from our church
to like sage our house.
And it's not.
I guess most Catholics don't practice that.
I thought that they did.
But I don't think that's a very common.
I know that a lot of,
specifically from Mexico,
the Roman Catholicism
has syncretized with a whole lot of
like the animistic.
Animistic witchcraft, occultic,
stuff like and sage burning is definitely in that category.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So again, she would buy sage, but she didn't feel qualified.
And my aunt, who is also a witch, would come and sage our house all the time.
Okay.
So you're like, let's bring the people that talk to demons over.
Yeah.
To get rid of the demons.
But the sage that they're using is Catholic sage.
Oh, it's Catholic sage.
It's blessed.
So they actually put holy water on it.
Okay.
Did they really?
Yeah, which I will never understand the holy water thing.
because I'm thinking Holy Water is supposed to like ward out evil is what they tell us.
And I'm like, my mom's putting it on every day.
And I don't see nothing happening.
The evil's still there.
The evil still happening.
Which, so later on after all of that, hiding, going to church and stuff,
she had gotten really bad to where she was like really incapacitated all the time.
And she had really bad anxiety.
So there was one night where.
She was talking, she did this a lot.
She talked to the walls a lot or to nothing.
And we would ask her, like, who are you talking to?
And she said, the man in the hat, which, again, I didn't know until you guys started talking about Hatman, about who Hatman was.
Right.
she was out of her meds that help her stop. So I don't know if you've ever seen someone have a panic
attack while they're doped up, but it's scary. They're compulsing, they're shaking, they're
screaming, they're crying. And I just remember, like, I'm a Christian now. What am I supposed to do?
So I was still new to it. I just sat next to her on her bed, put my arms over her, and I remember
thinking, I don't know how to do this. And I just prayed. And I asked God, like, I have
don't know what to do or how to even start this or how to ask you for help but i need help
i need my mom's like i don't want her to die please help her and she stopped shaking
she stopped shaking she just like passed out eyes closed went from shaking compulsive and to just
still and asleep so i left her be told my brother like we might have to call 911 you know
We might have to call dad to tell him to come and see what's going on.
And so I was like, well, let me go check on her again.
She's sitting upright in the corner of her room on her bed.
And she's talking to the wall again and mumbling.
And I ask her like, who are you talking to?
Who are you talking to?
She won't answer me.
And she says, I can't do that to my family.
They're my family.
I can't do it.
And I haven't seen enough scary movies to be like, we're out.
We're...
That is crazy.
That's crazy, man.
That's so creepy.
The implication being that this spirit is telling her to harm her family.
Or herself.
And see, she did try to harm herself a lot when I was a kid.
And what's weird is she didn't harm us as children,
but when I became a Christian, she got more violent with me.
Okay, so maybe your speculation is that she was being told to do.
to harm you and your brother.
Yeah, because she wasn't, I mean, she wasn't right.
We ended up taking her to rehab and what they told us was like she had enough in her
to tranquilize like three horses or something like that.
Oh my.
They're like, we don't know how she's breathing.
I'm thinking like, me either.
Like, what do you want me to say?
Yeah.
The mercy of God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that happened.
But when she said that, I was scared.
Yeah.
I felt that sense of dread.
Yeah.
You know, when you're, oh, it's so scary.
I grabbed my brother and it was like,
I don't care if we have to sleep in our car or what,
but we are not staying here.
So we left, went back,
and she was just, I guess, normal again.
But yeah, there was a time I cut her off
when I had kids and I didn't talk to her for like three years.
I don't know what happened in those three years,
but she got sober and she's religious now,
like Catholicism.
Like a practicing Catholic?
Yeah, she still does witchy.
crafty things with her family, but at least she's not like possessed anymore.
Because I think, I do believe that she was possessed because I didn't know it at the time.
It didn't make sense because I was so young.
I was only like 15, 16 when all this was happening.
But there were times when she would get so angry and frustrated at me that I didn't recognize
her face.
Like her face was not her face.
And I would tell my dad that and he would just be like, well, it's all the drugs.
You know, they make you change your face.
I'm like, no, like, it changes from second to second.
Yeah, like it changes back.
Yeah, it changes back.
And it's scary.
Yeah.
Did she ever have like, this is just, did she ever have moments where she was really, really strong?
Like she was able to move crazy things or throw things that were huge.
Yeah.
So I kind of.
So she is four foot nine.
Oh, wow.
So she's like having plumpa.
Lighty, little la beaella.
Yeah, she's tiny.
Yeah.
She's not very strong.
And when I was in high school, she got diagnosed with lupus.
So she's not strong at all.
Yeah.
When she would have these episodes, it was like throwing couches, throwing tables.
She got an altercation with me, which at the time, I was pretty athletic.
And so there was no way that she could take me, but she did.
Dang.
So my brother had to get involved one time.
and she fought him pretty good,
but he was able to overpower her.
But yeah,
there were times like that.
How younger, older brother?
My brother was 13 when all that was happening.
So younger than you,
but a 13-year-old young man is still stronger than the average 60s?
A 4-9 lupus.
Well,
and he was super into fitness.
So he was always,
and he still is.
Yeah,
he's always been strong.
Yeah.
Because I know that there's,
I've looked at some,
uh,
exorcism or possession cases on the dusty tone.
And one of the things that I always think is so creepy is how the conversations
between the individual who is possessed and whatever is possessing them take place like
they talk out loud.
Yeah, they talk out loud.
They can break like even the man who was bound in scripture and he would break the chains,
break ropes, like he would just break free.
Yeah.
And then the face chain.
I remember I was listening to a lecture from Dr. Walter Martin, who did The Kingdom of the Colts book, that guy.
And he was saying that he had been a part of what he really believes were a few exorcisms, and their face would totally change.
Wow.
Like it would become a, like they looked either less human or inhuman, and then it would switch back.
And they would be themselves for a second, and then it would go back.
And it's just so, so scary.
Honestly, I was desensitized to it, it felt like, because this was my life for a long time.
But it got progressively worse.
So when I would see her face change, I thought maybe I was just going crazy.
Yeah.
Like this is just, I don't know.
At that age, you just kind of start to disassociate to protect your brain from like shutting down.
So, yeah, that happened a lot.
Which even that in itself, like not to get sad, but even that in itself is one of the most vicious things that these evil spirits do.
Because, you know, thinking about it, my upbringing was very different.
I grew up in a Christian home, Protestant home.
And there was no, you know, syncretism or anything like that.
And so I really love my mom, great relationship with my mom.
And to imagine that person who, you know, a young boy, like, who are you?
you're supposed to feel more safe with than your mom and dad. And to imagine her like switching
into something that I don't even recognize and it's like an evil, angry thing. I can't imagine the
effect that that must have on like the heart and soul of someone who's growing up, especially a young
girl. Yeah. But that man, it's just so heartbreaking. Well, you know, the evangelical church is where
I started going and that they weren't too helpful either. So there was a point in time where I was like,
I really don't know what I believe, but since being at my current church, it's been really clear that I don't have to be sad about these things because I literally wasn't fighting with my flesh and blood.
I was fighting with the darkness, you know, with these demons.
And I have talked to my mom about it a lot, and she doesn't know about me praying over her because I think,
I don't think she's ready to hear that yet, but she did say that what she went through happened to her dad.
Really?
Yeah.
And so I'm thinking maybe this is kind of like predisposition type of thing, but I'm not bad about it.
Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said for like the tendency of generations to sin in similar ways.
And one of the things that we were talking about actually in the previous graveyard shift episode was
the consent and the willfulness that the individual has to give for these things to really, like, take off.
And how that generational sin can really make it more difficult to say no.
Like, there are predispositions to certain sins and to certain darkness, especially if you have generations of this kind of syncretism that runs in your family or witchcraft that's really influential in the people,
that you love. And so, yeah, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if the demons are like, well,
look, here's, here's someone. We've been, we've been messing with this family for generations.
We're good with this family. You know, let's keep going. Which is another thing, too, why I am such
a advocate for Calvinism, too, is because my family would do things like steal, lie, you know,
drugs. I've never done drugs before my life. And-
And whenever I would have to steal, I always felt so sick I had to throw up.
You know?
And so I always told my family, like, I feel like someone's always watching me.
And, like, they're judging all these decisions that I make.
And I don't feel right about it.
And she would always say, well, it's your family members, your grandpa, you know, your uncle who unalived himself.
They're all watching over you.
But as I have gotten more into this kind of stuff, I would think it was, I just,
God was there.
Yeah, a conviction of the Holy Spirit.
He was like, yeah, we don't do that.
We don't steal.
Yes.
We don't do drugs.
We don't, you know.
Yeah, it's not us.
We don't do that.
And so, yeah, that was, yeah, that's how I feel about that.
Almost that in itself was like a preparation for the Holy Spirit, changing your heart with the gospel.
I always felt different from my family and like the outcast.
Like that teenage, you know, what is it called when you?
The angst.
The angst.
I always thought it was angst because I felt.
felt so different from them. Like, I had, I felt shame and I felt guilt. And I feel like they didn't.
And they would always make fun of me for it and call me soft and whatever. But even now that I
am a Christian outwardly and my children are Christian, my husband's a Christian. My family has
the hardest time being around us. And it's like they, my aunt said, who's the witch, she said,
I don't feel like I can come to your house. And I don't feel like I can.
touch you anymore. And I was thinking like, why, that's weird. Like, you can always give me a hug or
whatever. And she was like, no, because your aura is too bright. Yep. I can't touch your aura.
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What does that mean?
Because who, you know, who can come to the presence of a holy God?
The demon that she's, it's exactly like the fortune telling girl.
She's got the demon, the familiar spirit.
And then, you know, the apostle shows up and he's like annoyed and get out of here.
Yeah.
Like they just can't when Christ commands, they have no power.
Like they just have no, they can't do a thing.
They just, there's no resisting the will of God.
it's why when the demons would be confronted with Christ in the Gospels,
they'd be like, oh, please, it's not our time yet.
Like, they even know they're cooked.
Yeah.
And they're like, please, but give me five more minutes of demonizing.
And the Lord's like, no, go in those, like you're done.
Give us the pigs.
Let us go into the pigs and let us throw ourselves off the cliff into the sea.
Yeah.
It's just, it's like the, when Peter talks about putting off the sins and foolish ways of your forefathers.
Like there is a real thing to that.
God visits the iniquity of the unjust
to the third and fourth generation of those who hate him,
but his mercy to the thousandth
who love him and keep his commandments.
It's like these things have,
there's a warning there, but there's also a mercy.
That family lines tend to run this way,
but then God breaks in.
And he uses a for king and country.
Of all things.
Preciiest possible racialistic events.
Prizes.
like full of latent feminism.
And like all of these.
And God's like, you know what though?
That's like, that's what I'm going.
I'm going to use the foolish things of the world.
Well, and it's also like to kind of going back to the sage thing.
Like, well, it's Catholic sage, but then a witch is doing it.
Like you can't use Christ as a talism.
No.
You know, and you see that with the Sons of Sceva in scripture.
Oh, yeah.
You know, the sons of Sceva go in to exercise this man in the name of Christ,
but they're Jews who are syncretizing.
You know, they're not.
They're not of the faith.
They're not.
They don't trust Christ.
And what happens to them?
They get cooked.
They get run out naked.
They get absolutely wrecked.
It's bad.
But you know, you get Christ going up to the legion.
And it's just one word.
And Christ is like, sure, go into the pigs and kill yourself.
And they're like, thank you.
So I'll leave you with this.
Okay.
Yeah.
I also think that the demons that have been harassing my family, you know, tried.
Because after I had our first son, I saw it.
And I had never seen TIT before.
I ain't never seen it.
I ain't never seen it before.
But I was sleeping with my baby.
And I saw it over my doorway.
And I remember crying and feeling dread and telling my husband,
telling my husband that I had seen it.
I had seen it for the first time.
And I knew it was it because I could feel it.
which is weird to say and explain.
But he just said, you have the power to tell it to leave you alone.
And I was like, I'm new still.
I've only been a Christian for like a year.
I don't feel like I have the power or the faith to do it.
And so he would pray.
And it went away after a while.
Then we had our second child and it came back.
And this time, though, it was downstairs.
And it couldn't come up the stairs.
and I remember telling him like, I can see it on the stairs
and I feel like it's staying there and I am safe up here.
And so he, again, would pray over our home, over me and our babies,
and it would go away.
Well, the last time that it came, I had our third and our last child
and it was outside the house.
And I didn't see it physically.
I saw it in my dream.
And I remember here,
it like knock on my window and I thought that I was asleep like I was awake I was asleep but I thought
I was awake I got up and looked and I didn't see anything and then I heard like it just kind of
run around the house and I thought there's an intruder but then I saw it again I saw it in the
window and I just in my dream closed my eyes and when I opened them it was day outside it was at night time
and I told I saw it again and I explained to him like it keeps coming back and he was saying that he
that it came back, but it got further and further away.
So I haven't seen it since.
It's been a couple of years.
But he was thinking, like, it's outside the house now because it can't come in.
Yeah.
Like, it physically can't come in our house now because we've been Christians now for four years.
I have been.
He has been a Christian his whole life almost.
So at this point, he's got like 10 years on him.
And I have four.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I think that if there was a demon harassing my family,
it's not harassing me anymore.
It was trying to get the kids.
Yeah.
It was like trying to revisit this line.
It's like we've been, we've had this line for a while.
Yeah.
Let's come back.
Let's take it back.
Let's see if we can, maybe, maybe this one's out, but let's see if we can.
That is crazy that they know that and that they're trying that.
You know what?
You know what, though?
It reminds me, so when God gives the curse in, in the garden, he tells Satan the whole
plan, right? He says that, yeah, he's like, the seed of the woman is going to crush your head.
That's the plan. Yeah. Yeah. And God's like, I don't care if you know my Trump card. That's the ace that I have
a whole take and do what you want. He even says he's, he's going to crush your heel. You're going to crush his
heel, but he's going to crush your head. He's going to be wounded in the process. Yeah. Like the whole plan.
And so it's like, Satan therefore, is like, aha, so all I have to do is corrupt the seed of the woman.
So that's the whole plan. Yeah. And that's their whole play. And so it makes sense that they would be desperate
to get back into a line that they had for so many generations
and say, no, we have to keep corrupting that seed.
And even after Christ, like the seat of the woman has come
and has crushed the head of the serpent.
But what does God say is, you know,
one of the chief purposes of marriage.
We read Malachi, a godly seed.
Godly seed, godly offspring.
So this is still something that God has baked into his redemptive plan,
even post, you know, resurrection,
is a godly seed for the gospel to go forward.
And so of course we should expect to see the demons.
Like they're going to pull out all the stops to get to the seed and make it an ungodly seed.
You know, and like what a cowardly move to come to me when I'm at my most vulnerable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
After I've had a child.
To come to the woman postpartum.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that level of it's just such a cheap shot.
It is.
It is.
And it makes me so.
So it makes me.
It's just so evil.
It is.
message for all the demons out there.
Hide from Jesus, though, not from me.
From Jesus.
Like, you gotta stop.
No, prayer is like, we always pray.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, my husband's family is not nearly as bad as mine when it comes to, like, demonic
stuff, but because he's aware of stuff, he's always like, we got to pray for angels to be
around our house always because, you know, these demons, as soon as they see an opening,
you try.
It's crazy because Christians.
today, they have an instinct that whenever they hear somebody say, well, there's spiritual
demonic forces at work in this. A lot of modern Christians have this instinct to kind of poo-poo that
and say, well, the flesh is enough. The flesh, we can sin all on our own. It's like, that's true.
But the way the New Testament talks is that we need to guard ourselves against the world,
which is the temptations of the world of men under this way of demons, but men as well,
the flesh, our own sinful instincts and tendency, and the devil. Yeah. It's all three. And so
we should expect, and like the New Testament is just full of this theme of Christians waging war
in the heavenly places against powers and principalities. Romans 16, what does Paul say to the
Romans to comfort them? And the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. Right. Yeah.
So they, the ending of Mark that you will trample down serpents. Like this whole, this whole,
a version that we have.
I love stories like this,
not because of the darkness or the evil
in them because they were painful
to go through. Like there's no
question, these were wicked, evil, painful things
to go through. But because of the
reminder that they serve for
Christians to be on watch.
Yeah, I mean, one of the practical things that
they point me to, and I think
you know, I would commend to all the listeners,
is as you're praying
for your family over your
kids, you have to remember these things.
things. Like every night we make it, you know, it's a habit when I put my boys to sleep. I pray
Lord, you know, send your angels to protect us from all evil, you know. But the thing is,
there's going to be times because kids are, we're still in a fallen world. Kids are kids,
they're going to be afraid of the dark. You know, and one of my favorite things to tell people
when they're like, my kids are afraid of the dark, what do I do? I'm like, well, you teach them
that, yeah, it's perfectly rational to be afraid of the dark in a fallen world. Because
the dark is where the demons hide most often. So yeah, it makes sense to be afraid of the dark.
But the thing is, when you're in this house, God is in this house. And that means the darkness
is redeemed just like everything else. And so now all the darkness does is help us sleep good.
Yeah. Ben tells his kids every time they go to sleep, but dad, I'm afraid of the dark. And he says,
you should be. And I just like, my son has, he's been like, dad, I'm afraid of that shadow, you know.
And I'm like, and I've told him not at that moment, but the next morning, I'm like, no, I get why.
Yeah.
I get why you're afraid of the shadow because shadows are scary, but not here. Shadows help us sleep good here.
Not in this house. Because God is here. Not in this house. That's right.
I love that. One last thing I want to just ask, I guess, and even direct our listeners to is just how can we pray for your family?
How can everybody just take a minute and say, like, pray for Brittany's family. God will know that it's not really, he'll know her real.
name. Like your mom, your extended family, it sounds like there's still a lot of them that are
caught up in some of this stuff. Yeah, there's a lot of my family. I'm actually the only one who is
a Christian in my family. If you could be praying for them, especially for my parents,
we're really trying to get them to stop being the way that they are. And for my husband's family,
too. Luckily, his parents are Christians. So it's not like both sides are just evil. But my husband
has a lot of siblings who are into psychedelics and my brother too, unfortunately. So just be praying
for our family to be saved because it would be great for us. But also, we are first-gen Christians.
And so we have a lot of chains to break ourselves. Not
just humanly speaking, you know, sinfully speaking, we have to stop behaviors that we were taught
for our whole life. But we also have things we need to protect our kids from that we can't see.
And so if you could just pray, let our kids would grow and be faithful Christians and have
fruitful lives and that this curse that has infiltrated my family for generations would be cut off
here. Yeah, yeah. This is it.
This is where it ends.
Okay.
I know there's like well over 100,000 of you.
So take 30 seconds.
Pray for Brittany's family.
And for all that.
Seriously, take a minute, do it.
And thanks for coming on.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Such an amazing story.
I know our listeners are going to be blessed.
Thanks for being willing to share that.
And it's tough to talk about.
But we appreciate it.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
All right.
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