Haunted Cosmos - Pastors React to Real Sleep Paralysis Story

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by Jake Mueller Adventures, a thrilling Christian audio drama. I start to then see something coming out of the smoke, kind of like bobbing up and down. They weren't just coming into the room, but they were coming towards the bed. It's important that you tell your kids when they're like, well, the covers will protect me, that you look them in the eye and you say, the covers cannot keep you safe from what is to come. I'm just kidding. Don't do that. Well, welcome back, cosmonaut to another episode of The Graveyard Shift. I'm one of your hosts, Brian Sovey, joined by the most handsome co-host in the new Christendom lineup.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm sorry everybody else, but it's true. Wow. Ben Garrett. Hey, that's high praise. I work with these guys. And they are all very handsome. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Yeah. No, you are welcome to come on my podcast. Yeah, yeah. Anytime. I'm happy to be here. And I'm so excited. because the graveyard shift is one of my favorite things that we do here, where we just bring in listeners, callers,
Starting point is 00:01:09 whether here in the studio or calling in, and tell some great stories of different spooky or strange things that have happened in their life. We discuss it. And then we just go, usually we just go, wow. I never thought that I would learn how uninteresting. Yeah, your life is in terms of paranormal experience. 100%.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Like our listeners have some wild stuff. So I'm excited to get into it. But before we do, I have an icebreaker question for our guests. Wait, who we have to introduce our guests. I was going to say, no, go ahead. You go ahead. All right. Our guest today, our guest today is, oh, the camera.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Our guest today is the one and only Rebecca Stevens. Rebecca, please say hello to the people. They want to hear from you. Hello, people. Hi. Boom. Rebecca is pregnant, which is amazing. Praise God.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Be praying for a safe pregnancy and birth for Rebecca and her child. She has a beautiful family, and we are excited to hear her story. So, Rebecca, I have an icebreaker question. I'm trying to come up with one of these for all of our guests, just so we can really get to know each other become good friends. My icebreaker question to you requires a follow, like a preceding question, and that is, are you a big reader? Do you like reading?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yes, but I'm that audiobook reader, not reader person. Okay, that's totally fine. I know there's like a, there's a thing about that. People are like, oh, that's not considered reading. Okay, yeah. It counts. Okay, that's all good. Totally counts.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The question is, who is your favorite, yeah, who is your favorite American author, and what is their best work? Well, I'm currently reading Francine Rivers, Mark of the Lion series, which is awesome. My wife has read that. So, I probably see of Francine Rivers, simply because her stories are just really motivating. I like Brandon Sanderson. I like O.R. Melling. I like these other people. But I really like Francine Rivers and the Mark of the Lion is this really cool, like historical fiction about the fall of Jerusalem and Coliseums and Gladiators.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And it's got the political intrigue, the little hints of clean romance. But we have the internet issue. We lost you for just a second. It's okay. You're back. We're back going strong. If we lose anything in the recording, we will just have an artist recreation where Martin pretends to be you. I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yes, it'll work fine. Martin and Bright. He's already a woman. So we got that going for us. He's the only woman on our staff. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Okay, so it was Francine Rivers.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Mark the line. Everyone go check that out. That's a great recommendation. And a great answer to the icebreaker question. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I think we should just dive right in. Yeah, let's go. Unless you have anything to say.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah, we'll try not to interrupt you. We want to hear this story. And we're really on the edge of our seats. I've never heard it or read it. I wasn't involved in vetting the stories to pick. So I'm actually particularly excited because I get to hear it for the first time. And you only get to do that once. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I'm also excited because I have totally forgotten what it was by now. And that gets me stoked. So I'm ready. Rebecca, take it away. Have you heard of the Jake Muller adventures? What's that? A Christian audio drama. Zombies, vampires, global conspiracies and faith at the center.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I was up all night on the edge of my seat. Is it fully immersive, sound effects, and cast and everything? Yes, full cast, cinematic sound. It's like you can hear the danger coming. Ooh, so kind of similar to Hanna Cosmos, but know your mom jokes and more drama? No mom jokes yet. But yeah, tons of drama. So it's kind of like your mom then?
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Starting point is 00:06:31 slash Haunted Cosmos. Investment Advisory Services offered through StoneCrop Wealth Advisors, L.C. Our registered investment advisor with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Okay. Well, it happened around like circa 2007-ish. I think I was 13, 14 somewhere around there. And I, it's like a sleep paralysis thing from what my husband and I have talked about, kind of looking back and trying to analyze it. I was in bed. It was maybe 9 or 10 o'clock at night. And my bed is, you know, in the back corner of the room underneath the window. and my bedroom door that opened up to like our upstairs area was over in the far right corner perpendicular to where I was in bed. So if I was lying in bed facing out into the room,
Starting point is 00:07:18 I could see the doorway, I could see anyone coming in or whatever. And I'm lying there like I normally would at night. My door, my bedroom door is open, so there's light coming in from my upstairs game room area where my parents are watching the news. My mom was a quilter, so she'd always be quilting at night. So there's like the steady sound of the, the quilting machine or the sewing machine.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I was just kind of falling asleep. And all of a sudden I saw like smoke billowing into the room, but on the floor, kind of like in a theater production, seeing like this dark smoke, but not like the light smoke you'd see in like the beginning of the Beat in the Beast transformation scene. It's like dark, ominous, rolling smoke. And I kind of thought like, that's really weird. I wonder if that was some sort of like mechanical issue with my mom's sewing machine and kind of watching it concerned. And all the while, and I'm lying on my side looking at the doorway.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And the fog smoke starts really rolling in, you know, classic curling and dark. And I start to then see something coming out of the smoke, kind of like bobbing up and down. It kind of at first, it looked not scary until I saw more definition. and looking back, I can kind of say it looks kind of like a voodoo mask, like a tribal mask, but it was definitely like a wooden mask, technically like somewhere between one to four of them, never bobbing at the same time, but bobbing in the smoke as it's rolling into my room, very slowly, but it's coming in, definitely like concealing something underneath the smoke. And the masks were tribal or character.
Starting point is 00:09:07 very emotive, but they were emotive in the deepest, darkest sense of like they were not emoting like the theater, like, you know, misery or despair or joy or whatever. It was like sins. They were emoting sins, like absolute lust, greed, despair, like in the deepest sense, maliciousness, like malice, just these sins that you feel deep, deeply in your soul. And I was looking at these masks and seeing them in like the faces. And I remember being like, that's not, that's not good. That's not something I should see in my room. So I remember trying to roll over onto my side and like curl up into a ball, kind of like the mindset of like, I'm going to get away from this. And I couldn't move my arms or my legs. I could barely just kind of slightly turn onto my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:10:04 and look up and i remember looking up and kind of realizing like i'm stuck here i'm awake i can't do anything about this and they're coming into my room and so i was kind of like looking up and kind of processing this and for some reason i rolled slightly back to look to see if they were gone you know kind of hoping like oh they're not there anymore and there was in fact the smoke had now basically filled the room and it was a pretty large room and it's a wooden floor by the way so like Like, I knew the creaky floorboards of my room, and there was no creaking. But it was full of smoke. And now instead of being like one to four masks, there's like in the teens, and they're bobbing up and down.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And they're like different masks, all dark blood colors, like colors of dried blood or like really just intense. And the scariest thing is that they weren't just kind of. coming into the room, but they were coming towards the bed. And I remember at one point seeing hands beginning to reach out. And it's similar to the moment in the fellowship of the ring, I think, when they're hiding and you see the ring race get down and you see like the hands. It was similar to that, the sinuous, muscular, creepy hands. But the hands are really true.
Starting point is 00:11:34 seeing were almost made of like graphite like carbon they were just this thin coat almost like you know you touch it it's so brittle it would just shatter but at the same time or something yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:11:48 but like as thin as like let but dark and still you look at it and you know like that has power not in the physical realm if that makes sense like it's it's something that's powering this other than like muscular
Starting point is 00:12:04 you know, and they were beginning to like reach up and out of the smoke. And, you know, as the smoke is coming towards me, it's now is probably maybe five feet away. Now I'm like, all right, I really got to roll over and get away from this. So I remember rolling onto my back again, and that's kind of where the moment of like, almost like the thought of like you're kind of going to die, you don't really know what's going to happen. And I remember like looking up and instead of my. ceiling fan being there, like, kind of like having this really wild moment of like, whoa,
Starting point is 00:12:40 I see like space. I see stars and just dark space, which I've always been kind of afraid of space. So it was very oppressive of like, I am utterly alone. I am utterly alone. I am being pursued by this like very malicious force. my door is open and my parents are right there and my family are all believers especially my parents
Starting point is 00:13:08 and so I'm thinking like what is going on? How is this in here? So I felt very alone and very scared and I was kind of stuck there just feeling like I was almost like shrinking in my bed. The space was getting higher the darkness was getting higher the fog began lapping at my bed
Starting point is 00:13:28 and the masks were kind of like rising and falling in my peripheral vision. And I remember seeing the beginnings of fingers clawing near my face and like almost, like they weren't ever touching me, but they were like clawing kind of near the sheets. I just remember thinking like, all right, I'm not coming back from this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like if I fall asleep, like it's, this is it. And then it was just the happy part, the most amazing part. is then I don't know if I blinked. I don't know if it was like a burst of light. But regardless, my vision just like went out for a second. Like, you know, when you see something so bright, your eyes just like can't focus. And I kind of focus my eyes for a second.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And it's like the brightest warm golden light you could ever imagine suddenly is engulfing me everywhere. And I focus more as I'm like, what's going on and I started to see like golden flakes come almost like pixie dust or something. I don't know, like kind of falling. And as my eyes adjust, I realize that it's two ginormous ivory wings, like actual wings, covered in feathers and lustrous gold and they're warm and radiating light completely covering me. Like if you imagine one was going from like beyond my shoulder, like beyond the headboard, all the way to my feet.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And then another one was kind of crossing underneath. It just completely covered by these giant wings. And I knew that was the Lord's protection for me. I felt like I had a moment. You know, you always have the prayers your parents would pray of like, oh, let there be like angels by the bedside or whatever. I felt like they were there. And I remember at one point kind of like,
Starting point is 00:15:28 I almost felt like Lott's wife like looking back because I kind of looked over to the side. And I remember the angel's wings like shifting, kind of opening up to almost be like, oh, you want to see? And I remember seeing the claws, the hands trying to grab, like right over. Like if those wings weren't there, they would be scratching me up and doing whatever demons do.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And then the wings closed again. And I remember almost like a fade out in a movie, just peace. And that was it. And then I woke up the next morning. I was like, what the heck? What was that? So you just fell asleep in these wings, dude. Yeah, which was the most, of course,
Starting point is 00:16:08 like, peaceful thing you could ever imagine. And, like, later on, I struggled with suicidal thoughts a lot. And there was a lot of, a lot of, like, Frank Peretti-esque situations in my bedroom when I was older, like 16 to 18, where I felt like there was a presence in my room that I couldn't get away from, that I couldn't, like, I would be pacing, kind of almost like the, I don't know what the old English story is, but the woman where she's, like, walking around the wall and, like, the wallpaper gets bloody because she's, like, walking and she's insane, do you know what I'm talking about? No, but that sounds, like, right up my alley.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The yellow wallpaper. It's a yellow wallpaper about, like, women going insane. I got to look that up. Email Ben, that sounds like an amazing story. It's creepy. Yeah, the yellow wallpaper, it's creepy. Wow. But I remember being, like, overwhelmed with the feelings.
Starting point is 00:17:00 of there's something in here that I can't, I can't stop. Like it, it's going to get me at some point. And one time, and this is when I had also been reading Frank Freddie, which was a big help in me realizing like, it's not, like you say, like it's not just stuff. Like there's other things out there. And I remember one time like forcing myself to go over to the opposite corner of my room and open a Bible, which I don't remember when I had done last,
Starting point is 00:17:25 and it opened to Psalm 91. And if you know Psalm 91, it talks about being covered in his, wings and finding refuge. And so for a long time, that was a psalm of comfort. And I remember when I read that immediately, I mean, I probably haven't thought about that instance for years, but immediately that came to my mind. And it felt like just like this cloak, like a like, you know, kind of almost like Christian and Pilgrim's Progress, almost like this weight just physically dropped off of me.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And I just realized like, it's the Lord. the Lord is who he says he is. And it was really truly like the aha moment of like, he is the protector and he is the sovereign one over everything, all of creation. And fast forward to meeting my wonderful current husband and only husband, Elisha. And we as I get to know him better.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I want it and only forever. That my mother-in-law had been praying for her children and their to be, you know, spouses have been praying Psalm 91 for her entire life. And that's like her thing. And I remember when she told me that, I just wept because I realized, like, again, I know my parents are Christians and I know they've prayed for me and my husband. But then to have that, like, connect with that specific passage was just nothing but the Lord. So I've looked back at that story, who I didn't tell to my parents for a long time because they would have terrified them.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And also it would have been something that probably wouldn't have been talked about in the family. But I told my like homeschool crush at the time. And he was like, well, I don't really know what to tell you. But I think that's important. I think the Lord wants you to do something with that and like know that he's protecting you. And so just kind of held on to that for a long time. And then when we started listening to Cosmos, it had told a lecture about. it years before. He was like, I think you should mention that. I think you should say something about it.
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Starting point is 00:21:00 The thing that I think I never get tired of with the Lord is how thoughtful of a father he is. Like he's over entire lives and generations. Like he's showing that he's not just a protector, although of course he is. But he is a very thoughtful and affectionate father that wants to keep giving good gifts to his children. even when we don't even recognize the fullness of their goodness. And it takes us our entire lives for our eyes to be open and be like, wow, he was like planting the seeds of this incredible gift. And almost this like, you know, it can sound cliche in our modern evangelical setting,
Starting point is 00:21:44 but almost this personal just, hey, I really love you, you know, and I want good for you. And look, here's how I can prove it to this particular soul, like given all of your dispositions and your insecurity, or fears or your struggles, this is how much I care about and love you. I think that that's just an amazing story. Yeah, and I mean that the enemy loves to destroy. And so one of the chief vectors where he always wants to get in is with the children,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you know, in believing families, if he can get in and say, I'm going to sow doubt. I'm going to, you know, sow the seeds of apostasy and the children of believers. And your story really reminded me just of the importance of prayer for your kids. because we, I know both Ben and I regularly pray. I mean, I have seven kids. And I pray for them constantly, you know, every night. Lord, protect them, guard us by your angels, help us, you know, to wake up safely in the morning. And it's easy to forget as a parent even for the child.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Like the world is small and it's also kind of big at the same time. Like there, the night is a scary thing. Yeah. Like it is a time, the Psalms speak of the wise. watches of the night and how it really is a time where it's not unfitting for a person to face fear and feel vulnerable like in the darkness darkness is is a metaphor a metaphor for the work of the enemy for a reason darkness conceals it's like it is the haunt of of bad and evil things but god is lured over it Psalm 91 Psalm 139 even even at the even at the
Starting point is 00:23:26 in the deepest darkness still you're there. Yeah, if I were to go into the deepest dark, there you'd find me. I set Psalm 91 to music a few years ago, and it has been one of those Psalms that before I did that, I hadn't really paid attention to it. I'd read it. But in the process of setting it to music,
Starting point is 00:23:43 it really hit it in my heart, and it's now one of those Psalms that does come to mind a lot. Both for the protection that God guards us by his angels, but also just these promises, like upon the adder, you will tread on the lions that God's people are not just, we talked about it in another graveyard shift, but not just playing defense, but actually offense as well, that God really wants to use
Starting point is 00:24:08 his people to storm the gates of hell, which won't prevail against the church. Yeah, and just to your point about prayer, like that, that's something that I recommend to everyone, that they would intentionally pray, especially over their kids. But this is something I should be better at over the whole home and, you know, my wife as well. that the darkness would be a comfort because the Lord is there. You know, that he would, it's always like that you'd send your angels to guard and protect us from all the darkness. But when my oldest now he's four, he's still really little. He struggled with nap time when he was about two or three because he was afraid of the shadows.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He would say, like, I don't like the shadows. And it was an interesting object lesson for me because I was having to work out with him why you don't have to be. And it's just this incredible, often overlooked work of the gospel that turns those shadows that you should be afraid at, you know, just in a fallen world
Starting point is 00:25:09 with nothing else going on. Yeah, you should be afraid of the shadows. But because the Lord is here, the shadows actually can comfort you and they can make you sleep better because you know God is there. You know, and he's not going to let, just like with you.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Like that story, this is an amazing story because it goes from terrifying to almost this like magical enchanting account of how faithful and good the father is. Now, one of the questions that I had, you know, I think you said it a couple times, but you were like lucid during that experience. You were not, you hadn't fallen asleep and then you woke up. Like you were awake. And that to me, like that's the sleep paralysis thing. I mean, we've been circling around it. I don't want to repeat myself.
Starting point is 00:25:56 But, you know, the darkness is where the haunt of the jackals is. And when we're trying to go to sleep, we're in this vulnerable place where we really are giving ourselves over to like, I hope something. The protection of God, because I'm not paying attention. And we even have those kind of silly kid like thoughts of like, well, if I'm, if I have the covers all the way over me, nothing can get me. You know? And like those really juvenile thoughts, but they never really totally go away. And how the demons in the forces of darkness just use that time so clearly as the opportunity to, I'm going to instill fear. I'm going to instill doubt. I'm going to instill hate, whatever I can, into this person. So, hey, even if it's possible, I can take away even the elect, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:42 like they're longing to take the saints away from the guardianship of God. it's important that you tell your kids when they're like, well, the covers will protect me that you look them in the eye and you say, the covers cannot keep you safe from what is to come. I'm just kidding, don't do that. It's the Lord Jesus.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, it's Jesus. We're the hands and kind of, the way you describe those hands is really terrifying too. I pointed to your hands. Yeah, I know, because I don't have any fingers. Like where they were kind of, they were really deformed hands.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Kind of like this guy. She also said they were super, though. Ah. Well, a little editorializing there. Yeah, that was that. No, the description of them being
Starting point is 00:27:25 like thin and graphite-like but powered by something that was deeper than what you could see. Were they connected to the masks or were they two kind of separate things? I could never tell. I could never see any bodies connect. Like I would never would see something like longer
Starting point is 00:27:40 than a little past the forearm and the elbow. So I never actually saw whatever. actually saw the bodies. And I mean, you could imagine the hands would be extending from like if the head's over here, you know, you could
Starting point is 00:27:55 imagine it extending beyond. But like, I never saw eyes behind the masks. I never saw any sort of light. It was like, if you imagine you the darkest black paint you have, it's like that sort of void of light. Yeah. And so even if they were connected, there was no life
Starting point is 00:28:11 if that makes sense. Like Vanta black. Like it, dude, I was hoping you'd say Vantampton Black. Takes away all the light. You know, I love. Vantamta black is such a good word. Yeah. That paint that like absorbs 99.97% of light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's black because it is, it is a black hole. It eats the light. It eats it. Which is interesting. Like, you know, you see in these encounters that trope of darkness and blackness, like a black that's blacker than black, you know. And it's because our understanding of black is that it's eating everything. So it's the consumer.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's taking and taking and taking. and then you have that light coming down and the wings of light and how it can't eat that, you know? Yeah. Like that's the light that it can't consume. Yeah. It's almost like it's poison to it. You know, it repels it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It's amazing. Dang. Well, I got nothing else. I know. That's a great story. That is a great story. Did you, and so you said you had other, you know, experiences like this, but God turned all of them and just kept using them to more reemphasize and reiterate,
Starting point is 00:29:17 know, I'm Lord of, like, these things are real, but I'm, I'm the Lord of them. I'm not, that don't scare me. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it was just like, the confidence that I've gained is nothing apart from Christ because he's just shown me. Yeah, he is totally sovereign. He is, there's nothing that goes beyond his power, nothing that is greater. And I know that my, I have three boys.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And my, currently my five-year-old has been the most scared of the dark. And he's asked us before, well, you know, same thing. Kind of like, well, what about the dark? like I don't like the dark. We've told him like, can you imagine how powerful Satan is compared to God? Satan is a created being. God is the creator. We've been talking about Thomas Aquinas' five proofs with my seven-year-old.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And so we've been talking. Let's go. Home school, man. Let's go. But we've been talking about that and just like comparing, you know, a created being with the creator and the amount of power. And there's just been so much comfort because, you know, I've. because of the Lord's kindness, like I've experienced then kind of seeing this,
Starting point is 00:30:23 this comfort, this protection so I can very confidently tell my children, I'm not like trying to like make it up or kind of like, you know, like yeah, it's fine, maybe hopefully, you know. It's been a gracious thing of the Lord. To be able to share that with my kids too, because I was a very fearful kid growing up. And again, like the temptations for suicide and everything
Starting point is 00:30:43 were really, really intense. but then just knowing like the Lord is sovereign and he has a plan. And I look at my children now and I think, thank you God. Thank you God. Beyond human gratitude for what you've given to me, what you've done for me and what you will continue to do, Lord willing, through me for your kingdom. It's a humbling thing and it's a beautiful thing. So it's scary to think about what would have happened if, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:11 the experience didn't end the way that it did. but I'm so grateful that I did. Yeah, yeah. I'm so grateful. Yeah, it's funny how like our thank yous seem so silly when we're like fully, when we have moments where we really get to appreciate the goodness of God. And of course, we're like, thanks. You know, hey, like, thanks.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Ah, thank you. But that seems like not enough. But then to take that, again, it's like an object lesson. in a way, like to take that and then recognize how it prepares you to be an even, an even greater, even more loving mother to your sons as they, as they, you know, go through the same fears of childhood and how that in itself is a thank you, you know, to the Lord, because you're not wasting the gift, right, in the story that he gave you. It's just really, really cool, really cool.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I pray I don't. I pray I don't. It's a big weight. It's a good weight. Amen, yeah. Amen to that. Well, anything else before I take us out? close up this episode of The Graveyard Shift.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I did just want to thank you again, Rebecca, for your time. I know you're a busy mother, so we're very, very glad. And yeah, just grateful to you that you were able to come on here and share that story. If you like The Graveyard Shift, consider supporting the show. You can find us on Patreon. And we would love to see you there. But other than that, Brian, please take it away. Yeah, we share stories like this, not just because it's sometimes fun to tell
Starting point is 00:32:39 it interesting stories about the world that God made and not just, just the light parts, but also the dark parts of the world, but also as an encouragement that you don't just live in a world that's not just stuff. You live in a world that's not neutral, that this world is a cosmic battle of good and evil. It's a cosmic battle between darkness and light. And importantly, the darkness is not just out there, but it's also in each one of us. And by our sin, we participate in it. And so we can't just look at the ugliness of the darkness and say, well, that's really bad. It's also supposed to function in a way like a mirror and say, but I also have contributed to the darkness and chaos and sin of the world. And really, even in
Starting point is 00:33:22 something like this story, drive you to your need for Christ, not just for Christ's protection, as your creator and as the Lord, even of the spirits, but also as a Savior who forgives us of our sin, you know, that Christ died on the cross, that he rose from the dead, and that in that he triumphed over evil, you know, such that Paul even says that he put to open shame all of these powers and principalities, triumphing over them in the gospel, the good news that Christ died for sinners. So we would urge you, you know, saints believe it, live in light of it, and we would urge you as well, listeners that maybe don't have faith in Christ, to trust Christ, to be saved from your sin, and we genuinely hope that you would consider these things. And that even a story like
Starting point is 00:34:08 this would drive you to consider them. Thanks for listening. And thanks again for your time. And we will catch you guys in the next. Honti Cosmos, Graveyard Shift. We'll see you next time, whatever that happens to be. Want more Hunted Cosmos? Then make your way over to Patreon,
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