Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, 13 March 2026
Episode Date: March 14, 2026As hell falls from the skies in Iran upon the just and the unjust, Nitwit Nero finds himself caught between Scylla (Bibi) and Charybdis (his owner, Pooty). Even Israelis know the whole thing is a con.... Here at home, his creatures pursue their hateful ends. Your 'umble 'ostess frets. It's never a bad time to support independent progressive broadcasting. Wanna help?
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Now, where to begin?
Well, I said the password was breakdown.
It could also be meltdown.
It could also be freak out because, well, the whore, I mean, White House is having purple-pocodded blue- screaming hissy connections.
with crocheted tails.
Why?
Because CNN did something they don't like.
CNN did...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Journalism!
I know. Amazing, isn't it?
They went all the pieces because CNN actually played a news report.
from Iranian state
TV that
included
the first message
from new Iranian
Supreme Leader
Ayatollah
Mostaba Khamenei
and when
the Israelis in the United States
kill him
there will be another
Ayatollah.
It's Ayatollah is all the way down, y'all.
But
well
this
is what got them so, so rot.
A woman in, all in black, with only her face showing, she's a news anchor in Iran.
They let women be news anchors there, whatever else you say.
But, yeah, I don't, yeah, well, this is, this is just what pissed off the White House so much.
those who were injured and also
they addressed the leaders of some neighboring countries
the Islamic leader
said that
it has been very difficult
to be the successor
of Khomeini and Khomeini
I mean wow
that
that little bit
right there was enough to
cause the
White House
to burble
to run to X
with their rapid response
4017
and post a giant
big old steaming
excrement
the fake news
CNN just aired
four straight minutes
of uninterrupted Iranian State TV
run by the same
psychotic and murder
that has prided itself on brutally slaughtering Americans for 47 years.
I think brutally's doing a lot of work there.
And so is slaughtering.
Because, you know, we've done some of our own slaughtering, too.
Most recently, a building full of precious little schoolgirls.
Uh-huh.
But, no, they're coming all.
kinds of dead just unstuck.
But I don't know why.
I mean, they included that clip in their own rapid response.
They may have reached more people with that clip than CNN did.
God damn, these are some dumb-dums.
I mean, stupid with a capital stew.
Jesus.
And so they're, well, earlier today, checking my email account.
There we are.
Another spam from the White House.
CNN is lying to undermine Operation Epstein Ferry, and it's crushing success.
Of course, they're also pissed off about the fact that they chose a stupid name for their stupid war,
and that as a result, it's Operation Epstein Furry.
Andy Borowitz got in on the act earlier, saying that the Iranian military,
had flown aircraft over major American cities,
dropping unredacted copies of the Epstein files,
all over creation,
saying they didn't bother,
dropping it on the Capitol because the Capitol,
they didn't know if Congress still existed.
Ooh, that's what one of the hip kids call a sick burn.
Take new CNN's out again.
Well, US was a...
delivered crushing buzz to obliterate Iran's terrorist regime.
CNN's hacked journalists are peddling
Democrat-sourced fiction to undermine our decisive victories
in Operation Epstein Fury.
Now they've got me saying it.
CNN alleged the Pentagon and the National Security Council
did not plan for Iran's willingness to close the strait of Hormuz.
Wrong!
as press secretary,
Caroline, real poo-poo leave it alone
with all the filler in her lips
and a baby in her belly
that may wind up
with flippers instead of arms
because she got filler in her lips.
Well, Operation Epstein Ferry
is deliberately designed
to annihilate Iran's Navy missiles,
drones, and launch
capabilities precisely to
eliminate any meaningful threat
to global shipping lanes
like the straight of Hormoose.
And thanks to President Trump's commitment to energy dominance,
America is fully prepared to crush short-term disruption
and emerge stronger than ever.
Does anybody proof-read this shit before they hit send?
That's a confession that they weren't ready.
Because we're going to have to emerge stronger than ever.
But the problem is that it's a global oil market.
And as Paul Krugman pointed out,
it really doesn't matter how much oil we produce here,
because it doesn't.
Jesus.
CNN further alleged top Trump officials acknowledge this to lawmakers in a classified briefing.
Wrong.
Actual briefing participants torch this lie.
Senator Tom Bobble-throated Cotton said,
as chairman of the intelligence committee, let me make clear whoever leaked this lied,
CNN should do some fact checking the U.S. has planned for Iran to try to close the straight for decades.
And then there's Senator Tim Sheehy who broke a Marine's hand last week,
who simply hollered in a Senate hearing, nobody wants to die for Israel.
Oh, by the way, six more American military personnel have died for Israel.
Senator Tim Sheehe said,
I received a classified briefing from the administration.
It is categorically false that they did not plan for Iran closing the strait of Hormuz.
Daumakers and national security officials had known for years that this was Iran's plan
once their backs were against a wall.
they're desperate
you know when you're when you go
there's an old
old old saying in politics
never go to war with a man who buys ink
by the barrel
or in this case
pixels by the
peta tetragoogly bite
right
but well
not so much
but they're
they're all coming
coming unglued
nitwit Nero's gotten to the point of the, well, he's reached the portion of the program where he's yelling about people he's going to sue now.
Hey, thank you, Don.
Thank you, Don, so very much.
We're making real progress here.
We are down to $180 on Auntie Katz Challenge.
which means that we are at $480 to finish both of the challenges.
Thank you so much, Don.
Thank you.
Thank you for asking the rabbit Lee in New York.
I read the rest of the message.
Thank you.
Thanks for doing that.
I appreciate it.
Closing the Strait of Hormuz, as Steve in New York points out,
this has such a me-thinks you doth protest too much feel to it yeah i mean if they're not closing the strait of hormones why is it rock stopped shipping oil
why did a bunch of uh mariners on a Thai freighter have to be rescued by the omani's and then there's you know under the broad general heading of breakdown
Then there's the DUI hire, Whiskey Pete Kegbreath, who is feeling kind of snappy.
Yeah, yes.
Thank you, Jeremy.
In memory of Gary Atkins on his birthday, we will have lost him three years ago, June.
He is dearly missed.
Thank you.
And, yeah.
You know, I saw the other day.
on my Facebook notifications, I saw Larell's birthday,
and I remembered how excited he was about driving to Bowling Green, Kentucky for an eclipse viewing.
And then today I found out that a little girl, a little girl, a woman,
but she was a little girl when I was little.
We grew up on the same street together.
and she passed away three years ago, two years ago.
I didn't even know it.
It was a little rough because, well, I was the ringbearer,
and she was the flower girl in my sister's wedding back in 1970.
There are still photographs of she and I at that wedding.
I'll have to tell my sister, it'll come as quite a blow.
But, yeah.
Memory indeed, Jeremy.
Back to the Strait of Hormuz, however,
Whiskey Pete Kegbreath had a bit of a breakdown earlier today.
You might recall yesterday that I had the story from Howie Kurtz over at Fox News TV Radio Rwanda
talking about how the Iranians were going to put landmines in the straiters,
of Hormuz. Well, there was actually a more competent reporter on hand to query Whiskey Peep earlier today.
And it was a simple question. And the DUI hire couldn't handle it.
Right here.
Is Iran placing new mines?
We've heard them talk about it just like you've reported recklessly and wildly about it.
But there's, we have no clear evidence. We have no clear evidence of that.
clear evidence of that.
Thank you, sir.
Just as you've reported,
recklessly about it,
I guess,
well, I mean,
they don't want to free an open society.
They want to
just have strictly
state-run media
pablum of
sparkles and unicorns
galloping across
the Middle East and perhaps.
perhaps even.
Those sparkly unicorns going for a little swim in the straits of Hormuz.
I know, Steve, I know.
Oh, fuck, Whiskey Pete Kegbreath.
He probably thinks Hormuz is an Iranian liqueur.
No, it's an ungulate prostitute, Steve.
We've established that, the Hormuz.
And Whiskey Pete's probably weird enough to want to get to know her.
but everybody saw the meltdown and well people recognized it and mocked it relentlessly
kind of wondering the folks over at MS now kind of wondering what was going on in his little
noggin of when those were met what was the first question
he's meeting with she's in a couple of which china has a has a
A historic relationship with President Xi, they look forward to having a dynamic conversation to two powers.
President Trump ultimately has established terms of that relationship, which advanced the United States of America,
and that meeting will continue to ensure we advance that.
That's all I've done.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
And that concludes the briefing of just over 35 minutes or so from Defense Secretary Pete Heggzeth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan
So Jonathan Lemire, a lot to discuss in there. We'll get to the media criticism in just a moment.
But our question coming in was what to do about the Strait of Hormuz.
And Secretary Higgs has said, we're not going to allow the Strait of Hormuz to remain closed.
We're going to get the energy flowing.
How you do that is a completely different matter.
He suggested that one of the three objectives that the administration has laid out is destroying the Navy.
He believes that by destroying the Navy completely, the Strait of Hormuz can open up.
somewhat downplaying the impact there, saying that some ships can move through there,
contradicting what the oil markets are telling us this morning.
Yeah, the ships that have gone through, though, are carrying oil to China, not, you know, to the rest of the world.
Secretary Hagseth, and let's be clear, was a pretty hysterical performance, really angry of the scene throughout much of that briefing,
said of the straight-inform moves, quote, we don't need to worry about it.
But yet the rest of the administration is deeply worried about it.
That's why we're seeing things like sanctions be lifted on Russia because oil prices are so high.
And they are concerned about the ability to safely send ships to and through that straight.
And there's active consideration of having Navy vessels provide escorts there.
And Willie, we should just take a moment to note, as you just said, the media criticism here from Secretary Hex-Seth.
It took about three seconds to levy his first shot of the media.
He suggested that CNN would be better once David Ellison takes charge of it.
That's the merger that's currently being considered.
And it's just in striking contrast to what we have come to expect from Pentagon briefings in previous administrations
or even from, frankly, General Kane, providing far more of the fact.
You mean General Raisin?
Yeah.
That's so funny, Jonathan Lemire.
Well, you know, Pentagon Briefings in former competent administration is not run by alcoholic former Fox News couch sitters, which brings me to something else.
Micah made me aware of this.
Thank you, Micah.
It'll take me a second to get it queued up.
This is from a podcast.
Pete Hegseth's Holy War
There is an ad for a pleasure device in front of it
That I kind of have to scrub past
Okay, come on
Yeah
And bless her heart
Lejean Miller is her name
And she's wearing a t-shirt that says
Reagan ruined everything
Girl, if you came up with that on your own
Good work
Oh by the way, I'm the recipient of her Ronald
Ramalama ding-dong, courtesy of Lee in New York for Petta-Tetra-Gugly bite.
Give yourself a tech-accurate, Ramalamading-Dong.
I will.
Thank you, Lee.
Thank you very kindly.
But a little bit of a backgrounder, courtesy of Lee Jim Miller.
This stuff is out there.
But this is just a nice, concise expression of, you know, who Whiskey Pete really is.
Take it away.
Beth was born right here in beautiful Minneapolis, Minnesota.
He got a bachelor's degree in political science from Princeton,
where he was the publisher and editor-in-chief of the Princeton Tory,
the school's conservative student newspaper.
He served on the Minnesota Army National Guard at Guantanamo Bay, in Iraq, and Afghanistan,
until 2014 when he was assigned to the individual ready reserve
through the District of Columbia Army National Guard,
though he was barred from serving on duty at Joe Biden's inauguration in 2021.
This is the good part.
because he had been flagged as an insider threat, in part because of the tattoo he has that says Deus Volt, Latin for God Willsett, a Christian nationalist motto that has ties to far-right groups and is a popular slogan among perpetrators of right-wing terrorism, including at the Charlottesville Virginia riots in 2017.
It was this incident that Pete blames for his decision to leave the military.
Starting back in 2006, Hegset worked with Vets for Freedom, eventually becoming the organization's president in 2008.
though he was removed from leadership by 2011 due to mismanagement of hundreds of thousands of dollars of funds.
He then went on to be president of concerned veterans of America, which he left in 2016,
after a whistleblower reported he fostered a sexist and hostile work environment,
used the organization's funds for his own personal expenses,
and exhibited out-of-control alcoholism, one time allegedly getting drunk and chanting, kill all Muslims.
And so naturally by 2017, Hegset was an official co-host of Fox and Friends.
Hegseth, being the holy man that he is, is on his third marriage.
His first one to his high school sweetheart ended in divorce in 2008 after Hegseth admitted to having five affairs.
I could have sworn I read something about that the last time I peruse the Bible.
His third wife is named Jennifer.
She was a producer on Fox and Friends, and they got married at the Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey in 2019.
He's been accused of numerous instances of sexual assault and his own mother, in an email obtained by the New York Times,
accused Pete of mistreating women for years.
And in January last year, Hegzeth was confirmed by the Senate,
in a vote of 51 to 50 with J.D. Vance casting the tie-breaking vote
as the most unqualified Secretary of Defense to ever serve in that position,
having served zero time in government and led no major organization.
You get the idea.
No.
He was removed from a detail for Joe Biden's inauguration.
because higher-ups were afraid that he would
fucking assassinate the
incoming president of the United States.
That's,
well, that's your
Secretary of Defense.
Ah.
No, no.
Jeremy, you're misshapen.
The ad for the
device
is embedded
in her video.
Leje Miller's
video.
But yeah.
homicidal maniac. And so, consequently, yeah, the gang there at my former filthy morning habit,
yet, Whiskey Pete, assuming he has any sobriety to lose, well, Whiskey Pete is, it may not be long for this world.
It's of a war that despite Secretary Higgseth complaining that the media is saying is widening,
He said that in one breath, and the next saying, well, actually, yes, we're escalating our strikes.
It's the biggest day yet.
That's the very definition of a conflict growing.
And, John, you have to just point out, as you said, the contrast, which is that General Kane, when he second took the mic,
immediately talked about the four American service members killed in Western Iraq when a refueling plane in Air Force KC-135 crashed.
Turned out to be six.
To open, it took Defense Secretary several minutes.
He first complained about the media, wind and started to rewrite cable news banners,
suggesting what they should say versus what they have said based on reporting.
And then later got to the acknowledgement of the death of those four service members.
Sort of tells you the whole story about where his mind is,
deeply worried about the way the war is being perceived,
the way he's being talked about perhaps.
That seemed to be throughout the briefing front and center to him.
But again, some of the headlines are Secretary Hags is saying,
we're going to get oil flowing through the Strait of Hormuz.
Remains to be seen how that happens.
He said today, the most strikes since the war began up 20% in his assessment.
He also said that there will be a thorough investigation into the attack on a girls' school.
They killed some 170 people.
Sure. Sure there will.
And then, as Nittlet Nero said,
or claimed, Bill found out that the Iranians used an American tomahawk missile to bomb their own school full of little girls.
Sure, Jan.
But we got, I mean, just from a strictly strategic standpoint, and I'm sure that General Raisin knows this,
you know, we've got a carrier strike force there in the Persian Gulf.
or a little off of it, complete with its carrier group.
But they've got a reason to be worried.
Because, you know, what was it, a few years ago?
Mother Russia announced,
We have grand and glorious patriotic hypersonic missile,
and the missile will not be able to be stopped or shot down.
Well, one of those could, or maybe a swarm of them, could, you know, take out an aircraft carrier.
Because it does. It becomes a matter of mathematics.
How many countermeasures, does that, for like drones and missiles and whatnot,
how many carrier measures does, countermeasures, does that carrier group have versus how many missiles and drones does Iran have?
and once one number becomes higher than the other,
it changes the balance of power.
Can you imagine the American people?
How would this,
how will this maladministration explain to the United States,
to the people, especially the families and loved ones,
of those on our naval vessels
that they've just wasted an entire
United States Navy vessel and all its crew
for Israel
Yeah, you're right
You're right, Jeremy.
Jeremy noting, I believe yesterday, Stephanie Miller reported
we've taken responsibility for that school hit,
pretty sure I heard it.
It may have been General Raisin.
who did so.
From Leia, New York, obligatory Star Trek reference,
news about the war sounds like a Cardassian trial.
The verdict is where the trial starts.
We have won the unfinished war.
That's all, I mean, how would we respond if we lost a carrier, a nuclear carrier?
Wouldn't it, Witt Nero finally said,
That's it.
I said a long time ago.
I want to use a duke.
And we're going to use it now.
Just a general reminder, we started the war.
Or maybe it's not the carrier.
Maybe a missile takes out one of the frigates or cruisers that make up the carrier strike group.
It would be a horror.
And by the way, we're moving from their base in Japan.
which is probably, it means Okinawa.
A Marine Expeditionary Force along, well, aboard the USS Tripoli is headed for the Gulf.
You know, the origin of the Marines, the British had them, and then we decided we need them.
The Marines are the Marines because they can, they can, they.
They are the troops aboard a naval vessel.
For instance, in the days of sail, Marines would climb into the rigging with their muskets,
and they would shoot at people on the other ship from that vantage point.
That's the origin of it.
And frankly, it goes all the way back.
You knew she was going to go there, didn't you?
to the ancient world
and Greek and Roman and Persian
Egyptian ships
with archers
up in the
up up up the masts
or at the gunnels
you shooting at people on the other ships
now however
we don't use Marines for that very much
not a lot of hand-to-hand
grappling between modern naval vessels.
Instead, well, you send a vessel like the USS Tripoli,
chalk full of Marines and helicopters with which to transport them,
when you want to use the Marines to assault another country,
You know, by air and indirectly by sea.
Those would be what are commonly referred to in the multimillionaire for-profit media as boots on the ground.
So some genius in the Pentagon has decided that it may be necessary for us to send Marines to fight and die in Iran for Israel.
And I'm trying to see if I've got this story handy here.
Yeah, I do.
And I always find it interesting that there's more vigorous debate and reporting about Israel's behavior in Israel's own press than there is here where much of the press is captive.
And so earlier today I read an analysis piece by a guy named Joshua Leifer, L-E-I-F-E-R, in Haaretz.
And I didn't know that Haaret's has been around for a hundred and eight years.
That's fascinating.
But more importantly, Mr. Leifer provides much-needed context.
Analysis.
Don't fall for the regime change talk.
Israel is mowing the lawn in Iran.
And he says, Israel's bombardment of Iran striking a war.
resembles its previous wars against Hamas and Hezbollah, a form of perpetual conflict management
which can never achieve the total victory of its most delusional propagandists
and which guarantees this third Gulf War will not be the last.
Oh, what happened to...
No more forever wars!
And right out of the gate, Mr. Leifer explains that in the early 2010s,
Israeli military officials began to describe the army's periodic offenses
in Gaza, typically conducted through air strikes and artillery barrages as mowing the lawn.
Imagine treating human beings as grass, blades of grass to be moan.
He says the grim euphemism named the paradigm of perpetual conflict management that successive
Netanyahu governments chose over pursuing a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians.
every few years Israel would, in the jargon of the defense establishment,
degrade Hamas's military capabilities, and deter the Islamist group from launching future attacks.
In practice, this meant routinely bombarding the Gaza Strip already crushed under years of blockade.
Israel's turn toward mowing the lawn was also the product of geopolitical shifts following the Arab Spring.
For the first time, the Jewish state no longer faced serious threats from states.
states in its immediate surroundings that had long since signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan,
while Syria had collapsed into civil war.
But there were other adversaries, non-state actors like Hamas and Hezbollah,
ideologically committed to Israel's destruction and, at the same time,
unlikely to be defeated decisively by conventional military means.
Gosh, this doesn't sound good.
Over time, Israel grew to consider the resulting perpetual yet low-grade conflict with Islamist groups a comfortable one.
Israel's technological and military superiority enabled it to regularly carry out aerial campaigns
while generally avoiding ground incursions.
Oh, look, there's the word.
It's an excursion that would not only risk high Israeli casualties,
but also require a definitive political resolution to bring hostilities to a final close.
For Netanyahu, especially, this situation proved ideal.
Ever the cautious politician, he preferred to avoid full-suffles.
scale wars, when possible while rejecting outright both a two-state solution and until very recently
the formal annexation of the occupied territories, which is now underway.
I added that editorially.
There's a lot of more detail here.
Gaza, in other words, was not a break with mowing the lawn, it was its most devastating execution.
Joshua Lefer writes,
now Israel is transposing the strategy of mowing the lawn to Iran,
a geographically expansive country of more than 90 million souls,
very different from the smaller proxy militias.
Unlike with the Palestinians, however, Israel's reliance on air power in Iran
is not primarily a product of Netanyahu's rejection of politics,
but first and foremost,
because Israel cannot fight such a large and distant country by other means.
Oh, but somebody else can.
Wonder who that might be.
Contrary to the overheated rhetoric of regime change emanating from Netanyahu and his ministers,
and his lackey, Donald Trump, and Whiskey Pete and Marco Rubio and all those little boys in the two big shoes,
Israel's military did not embark on this war with the objective of toppling the Islamic Republic.
Israeli Air Force strategists know all too well that no modern regime has been overthrown by air power alone.
Israel cannot actually achieve the total victory of which its most delusional propagandists have begun to dream.
Oh, there's that greater Israel thingy again, which I've given a lot of thought to.
Apparently, you know, the Brother Deacon fact-checked that patch, and no, it's not real.
but it leaves us with the question
why then did the United States ambassador to Israel
explicitly and tacitly endorse
the greater Israel idea
why did he functionally give a pass to Israel
if Israel decides to do that
so there will be no total victory instead
Israel seeks to degrade and deter Iran
and its military capabilities so that Iran cannot threaten Israel in the future
whatever
everything else
regime changed
democratization is
as the Hebrew expression
goes
a bonus
or as
Danny Sotrinowitz
a senior researcher for the Institute
for National Security Studies
described Israel's approach
in a much cited financial
interview
if we can have a coup
great
if we can have people on the streets
great
if we can have a civil war
great
Israel couldn't care
less about the future or the stability
of Iran.
God damn that's
cynical.
I mean, that's nihilism
turned up to 11.
If we have a civil war, great.
Yeah.
What's a bunch of
what's a bunch of
Iranian civilians
slaughtered in the streets by
the Revolutionary Guard?
Ho-hum.
And he notes, Mr. Leifer does.
The ongoing U.S.
Israel War in Iran is the third aerial campaign Israel has conducted since April 24.
The repetitive bloody cycle has already begun.
Israel's air superiority, combined with the overwhelming might of the U.S. military,
has enabled Israeli jets to fly soaredes over Tehran of the kind it long conducted over Gaza
City and Beirut without losing a single plane.
And if striking Iran had previously been imagined as an impossibly risky endeavor,
in the span of less than two years
it has come to seem to many Israelis
as almost mundane
as has the reality of unceasing war
that makes his future
Israeli strikes in Iran more likely
even after the current fighting ends.
Is anybody publishing this kind of thing in the United States?
Is anybody
trying to
educate and inform
the American people
of just what
a shit storm
nitwit Niro has embroiled
us in at a billion plus dollars a day
and already
Israeli defense commentators
on TV are warning
that this war won't be the last round
using the same term they have
for past wars in Gaza and Lebanon
mowing the lawn
the phrase seems
almost I don't know
that euphemism
of human
beings, blood and bone and sinew and soul, as nothing more than leaves of grass to be mown down,
kind of has a German flavor to it. Eventually they say Iran will attempt to rebuild its missile
arsenal and refurbish its centrifuges, and Israel will set out to strike again to mow the lawn
this time 1,500 kilometers away. When asked during his press conference Thursday night, Netanyahu,
who did not rule out the possibility that after the war ends, Israel would find it necessary to do so,
if BB found it necessary to keep his sorry ass out of prison.
It's disgusting.
But eventually Mr. Leifer comes to a grim conclusion.
A strategy born of perhaps understandable pessimism, perpetual conflict management,
dooms Israelis to live forever by the sword and civilians across the region,
to live in fear of yet another round of war.
There are alternatives, namely diplomacy,
but without a radical change in Israel's geostrategic orientation
and in the determination of Israel's adversaries
to fight it no matter the cost,
the third Gulf War, as it has come to be known,
is unlikely to be the last.
And meanwhile, here at home,
and I don't think I'm going to call him,
John Fetterman anymore.
I think I'm going to call him
Kristen Mansion.
John Fetterman gave an interview
to CNN
this past Wednesday
that was a
flop.
Caitlin Collins
interviewed him
and asked him about his refusal
to sign a letter
asking for an investigation
into the murder of the
182 civilians,
most of whom were little girls.
he refused to sign that letter with his Democratic colleagues.
Like I said, it was bad.
You mentioned how you differ from your colleagues, your other fellow Democrats.
Every Senate Democrat, except you signed a letter today to Secretary Hegseth,
asking for an investigation into that strike on a girl school in Iran.
Why did you not sign that letter, Senator?
well because we all agree that is a tragedy having the school hit absolutely and we all agree now
for an investigation what i what i don't agree with the rest of my colleagues in the house is that
it's it's a war of choice or it's dumb or all the things that my colleagues have described
you know this operation i i think it's it's a good thing and i support how is it not a war of choice
You're the country that launches the sneak attack, Kristen Manchin.
How?
So we agree that we, and actually the Pentagon is already investing it.
They just acknowledge them that it seems increasingly likely that we work.
We work now on that, and now I think it's entirely appropriate, just like my colleague from Louisiana said.
It's like, you know, we should apologize that.
That's a tragedy.
and I would remind everybody listening right now,
the United States never ever targets civilians.
Never ever, never ever.
The ghosts of Mili would like a word.
The ghosts of Sand Creek would like a word.
It was mostly the British, but by the way, the ghosts of Bremen, or Dresden rather,
would like a word.
Iran does, you know, and including their own citizens, and they massacred that 35,000 of them just a couple weeks ago.
And the left, please, please, the left media is much more angry, you know, about talking about this hospital, and it is a tragedy,
but they didn't seem to be as concerned about the Iranians massacring tens of thousands of their young people just a couple weeks ago, too.
So it's, that's, we agree on many parts of it, but we both did.
disagree. I mean, we all disagree that it's, I think it's a good thing, and every single other Democrat in the caucus caused it all kinds of a negative terms.
We did cover the protest in Iran extensively here at CNN. Obviously, they said a lot about how internally people felt about the regime.
But just to be clear, you do believe if the United States.
And I didn't refine you as. I understand. I just wanted to make that clear to our viewers that we did cover that.
But just to be clear, you do believe if the United States was responsible that the Pentagon should acknowledge that they accidentally hit a girl school.
Yeah, I've said that.
I said it seems that they've already acknowledging all those things.
I think largely that letter, it was rendered moot at this point after what that's already come out.
Now the Pentagon has agreed that they were behind that.
And I don't know what your network talked about, but what I'm saying that, you know, whether like,
it's the New York Times.
They're making it more and more
trying to convince America
that this has been a disaster
or things are out of control.
Well, John, I'm sorry, Kristen,
Kristen Mansion,
it's a shameful war
because we launched a sneak attack.
We're not supposed to be
the country
that launches sneak attacks.
We're not supposed to be,
supposed to be the country that only
uses the world's most powerful military
in self-defense.
And check me,
Kristen Mansion, but
the Walmart
there in your hometown of Braddock
Pennsylvania has not been reduced to a heap
of smoke and rubble
by Iranian
drones, bombers,
missiles,
it hasn't.
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know that we can do
that, but someone could ask
him to leave. It's time, says Stephen
New York, to just kick Federman out of the party.
Well,
recall
that both
Curtsy and Kristen
Cinema and
Joe to the Mansion born
each eventually became
uh-ham
independence.
And
they did so
on the way out the door.
Maybe that's the case with
Kirsten Mansion.
It's just categorically not true on that.
I just think it deserves coverage,
obviously, given the number of children who were killed as a result of it,
it obviously matters what happened there.
We'll see what the Pentagon investigation says.
Senator John Fetterman, I appreciate your time tonight.
Thank you for joining us, as always here.
Yes.
Oh, no, you don't have to cut me off here.
Go ahead, Senator.
We're not cutting you off.
Well, you've said something that it's like it's appropriate to have,
to cover it. It is appropriate to cover it.
You know, it's a tragedy. Absolutely.
You know, and now if we were on that, it's entirely appropriate for it.
I apologize. And if you're implying that I don't think it's wrong to cover it, that's just not true.
You know, yes, it's being covered. I just want to clarify that.
It just seemed like a short shutoff there to imply that I didn't want to carry that.
I think it's entirely appropriate to talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah. What else is Caitlin's post?
to say at that point. Yeah, you're crazy.
And, okay, I don't
know why this is, but
when I was really
little, and they would play
the creepy movies in the middle of the afternoon,
there was
an old, and I think you can probably even
find it on YouTube.
There was an old 50s
sci-fi-slash-s, somewhat
horror flick,
called
the colossal man.
and an ordinary army colonel or major or whatever got accidentally exposed to radiation from an above-ground test
and then something happened to him and he began to grow and grow and grow and eventually he's standing basically in nothing but a loincloth taller than the Statue of Liberty
at, you know, Hoover Dam.
And he'd lost all of his cognitive facilities.
And it was basically a big, pasty, pale, shaven-headed King Kong.
I never was able, as a young sci-fi fan,
to figure out how he shaved his ginormous head.
but every time I see John Federman now I think of that movie
if Peter Boyle as the creature made more sense
and of course when he did this the other day
somebody said
well
the Monroe County Pennsylvania Democratic Party said
watching and listening to Senator Federman
is painful
he's nearly unintelligible and why is he so defensive, defiant, and rude unless he's on Fox.
On Fox, he acts like a toddler.
Federman never misses an opportunity to bash Democrats, all caps, someone primary, him in 2028.
And then Hamont Mehta, who runs the friendly atheist, noted,
Federman thinks murdering innocent Iranian schoolgirls because of an oopsie is irrelevant.
and oopsie.
And the fact that he referred to the New York Times as the left media
is absolutely hilarious,
especially in light of things like a little study that I ran across a day or so ago.
Namely, here it is,
from a group called Assigned Media.
I know this is a shift away from the topic,
but does the New York Times want to eradicate trans people?
An analysis of its coverage reveals a pattern of misrepresentations, deceptions, distortions,
the exclusion of trans voices, and the endorsement of contempt.
Billy Jean Sweeney is the author and asked,
Is it hyperbolic when critics of the New York Times say its publisher and top editors are intent on eradicating trans people?
Dozens of documented instances of bias have dogged its coverage for years,
but a flurry of new and newly discovered examples reflect the outlet's sustained determination
to pursue an activist anti-trans agenda.
A review by assigned media of four years
of news and opinion pieces,
placing particular emphasis on recent revelations,
shows that the Times has misrepresented
the positions of medical organizations,
deceived readers with misleading assertions,
averted its eyes to the right-wing money
powering the anti-trans movement,
and zealously defended a prominent bigot, J.K. Rowling.
Johan.
its newsroom still does not hire or assign trans journalists to cover trans issues,
a de facto ban that exemplifies prejudice,
and it suppresses the expression of dissenting queer viewpoints internally.
As a veteran former editor on the Times International Desk,
I've witnessed this campaign up close.
And the idea that somehow John Federman thinks,
who once, by the way,
defended, zealously defended the LGBTQ,
plus community when he was lieutenant governor of the commonwealth of pennsylvania the idea that he thinks
thinking is the appropriate word believes that the new york times is left media oh my aching back god
and from brother deacon asa fetterman yes yes the united states never ever um targets civilians
i think both the columbian spy and i agree that there were never any civilians in hiroshima or nagasaki
when the United States flattened the entirety of those two cities.
And you know what?
We did more damage with conventional weapons in the firebombing of Tokyo.
And those were mostly civilian deaths.
Right.
From Scott, all targets were sent by Bibi.
I have no doubt whatsoever.
Oh, and just a couple of things.
Because the password was breakdown, we have another one here.
Let's see, we've had nitwit nero.
We've had whiskey peat.
Well, here's the trifecta.
Of course.
It's Winebox Janine Piero,
who took some questions from reporters earlier today.
One of whom asked her about her
not particularly successful conviction rate.
You know, that's the conviction rate is the bread and butter.
prosecutors. But,
hmm,
wine boxed Janine,
well, she didn't like it one
little bit. Oh, no,
she didn't. And
then she, uh,
had a connoissepion.
What we don't accept
is a judge standing in front
of the door of a grand jury
blocking our access,
a role that has never been envisioned,
a role that will now
be used by other defense attorneys,
around the country
who's going to come in with a client and say
oh my client is being
targeted don't do dare go in the grand
jury a judge says yes
the guys bathed and washed in
immunity and you can't
go after him. The process
should have been allowed to run its
course and it wasn't
and shame on them.
Oh cut it out. Do you know how many convictions
we've got cut it out? You're in
one lane. We have clean. We have
cleaned up this city.
Yeah, historic, really?
I'll tell you what's historic.
What's historic is that I prosecute everything other than 10% of the cases
where the United States attorney before me didn't prosecute 67% of the cases.
That's what's historic.
I'm willing to take a not guilty.
I'm willing to take a no-true bill because I'll take all the crimes and put them in.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's all the time we have.
A combative, Janine Piro there, the U.S. Attorney for the District of D.C., reacting to the news that a federal judge has quashed, subpoena is issued against Fedcher Jerome Powell.
She fucked up again.
Yep.
Ah.
God.
There's not a scintillioris of competence anywhere to be found in this godforsaken government.
And you know what?
That's something to be grateful for.
These people, I mean, they're dangerous enough being the fuck-ups that they are.
This is even worse.
Oh, and by the way, thank you, Jessica, in the Greater Rochester Metropolitan Co-Prosperity Sphere.
Jessica has gotten us down to $150 to finish Auntie Katz Keep Roxy on the Air Challenge.
Jessica with a note
said just paid off a few outstanding deaths
feeling relieved. This has been a long time coming.
Still have a pile to pay down, but this chunk is a good
start. And here's 25 to
celebrate. Well, Jessica, you turned it
into 50, thanks to Auntie Cat.
And so,
we are now $450
away from finishing both
of these epic challenges,
Auntie Katz and Charlene's
and getting
almost all the way caught up
to the present time in March.
If those two challenges are both met,
then all that's left is today and $100 of yesterday.
And that is just amazing.
Thank you, Jessica.
Again, thank you, Auntie Kat.
Thank you, Charlene.
Thanks to everybody who has jumped in
on this amazing opportunity to keep the bills.
which need paid, badly, paid.
And from Wave the Warlord, so rocks.
Actually, rocks, it was pixels by the palate.
Hypothetically speaking, turns out a Molly, cinnamon bun, vegan cheeseburger, cannabis apocalypse, food truck,
is the kind of thing the world can use more of, much more of.
Hypothetically speaking, when an attempted murder-agravated assault turns into a stand-your-ground hearing,
one of the horns faithful, remained faithful to liberal ideas and ideals.
Didn't go all Florida like Trayvon's killer.
I let my MAGA attackers slink back into their holes.
Defended myself.
Turns out a flamethrower isn't my whole personality.
There's a laughing emoji there.
I'm not violent first.
I'm also from the Republic of Mamdanaistan, the Bronx.
So I said first, not absent or soft, slibs, Pragues,
arty, witchy types, rosters, and tree defenders.
got to be measured.
Snowflakes hate actual flames.
Figures, huh?
Mag of bullshit and 10K I didn't have.
Bless you, Adam Harms.
And here I am posting for my dad's couch.
Yeah, 92 still living dads.
Turns out I was right about World War III after all.
Who wants to be right about that sort of thing?
Here we are.
So far ahead of the curve.
It's just a singularity at this point, rocks.
Southern fried Jamaican curried.
Round the Bend crew.
I'm glad you're there enjoying the time there with your dad.
Wave.
That's most important.
And thank you, Ralph, for jumping in on Auntie Kat's Challenge this evening.
My goodness me.
125.
And a total.
So that makes the total 425.
We've got a fighting chance.
We absolutely do.
In the meantime, however, it's...
I'm a little overtime on...
heading over to the old holler tree.
So
let's do that thing.
And
no, I don't need this
badge package.
Hey Jeremy.
Do you see my
email assing a follow-up to my story?
I told you about after this all?
Did I?
If you didn't, I can fill you in.
Yeah, you said it, I remember you said it gets
worse.
It gets worse.
Yes. So ICE did get a warrant for the individual they're looking for.
They went to the house. They thought he was at. Didn't give reason why he thought he's at the house.
Blasted the door. He was not there. He's still at large.
They took his warrant with his name sworn by a judge for him and took three other migrants who were here on legal claims of asylum.
Their name was not on the warrant and arrested. And they finally said why they were after him.
he said it's because he came once before, was kicked out, and came back.
So he said he was here illegally, he's overseeing his visa, which is not a criminal offense.
It's not illegal to fine.
So they're acting out of order.
My governor's outraves and what happened was unnecessary.
Thankfully, he said that.
Police were whining and complaining that they had bottled or not bottles, but cans and sticks and shifts thrown at them for defending these ice fight, maggots.
And, yeah, the story just got worse last night as they covered more into it.
God, Jesus.
So they still did a warrantless arrest, even though...
Warrant arrest on three people here on legal asylum claims.
We're doing following every little law, had missed appointments,
came here, proclaiming the things that border were let in.
You know, this is Joe Biden's fault.
Is anyone asked, it was Joe Biden's fault that those people in under asylum from crazy places?
They're crazy people, I tell you crazy.
So, yes, it got worse after I read this story.
And it wasn't many people.
Several people were arrested.
Tier gas was used.
Flash bangs were used.
So this evil viciousness is spreading ever,
even small states like mine
that have a combined 600,000 when UVMs in session.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think Burlington is on average 50,000 in the summertime when,
which is nothing compared to both cities,
50,000 of the college students are away for the summer.
So we're a small estate.
How about summer?
I bet summer in Burlington is positively lovely.
Oh, what is it?
May, right around after they have their finals
and all the college kids leaves,
the streets are clear for two months,
it's wonderful.
I mean, it's not bad.
The mud dries up?
Oh, there's no mud in Burlington.
I drive on paid tar roads most of the time.
We're civilized compared to West Virginia.
Come on now, don't put us on that level.
We have tar.
Well, no, I'm just remembering what Bossman Wayne used to say,
that Vermont has 10 months of snow and two months of bad sledding.
Yes, 10 months, that's true, yes, sledding.
It's bad snow, only two months of bad snow, 10 months of snow.
But it's not quite 10 months of snow.
There's three or four falls, fall springs, there's mud season,
there's pre-winter mud season.
There's some multiple seasons here that if you really lived here long and if you figure out.
but other than that I'm trying to think
I was spilled my guts last night
I don't really try to think I haven't see anything
other than your story about
daddy claiming they're mining the streets of
humaneousal landmines which made me laugh my fucking ass off
stupidness it hurts
I came from Fox Jeremy so what do you want
well they were they're quoting what he said weren't they
no no no
No, he was just saying that that was his own writing.
That was how he curts his own stupidity.
Right, but no, they quoted what he was, they're reading what he said, right?
They didn't make up what he said.
They wrote what he said, word for word.
In a truth.
No, that was not a quote in that news story.
Oh, shit.
Okay, well, still, it's funny, though.
Still stupid that someone can't say that.
There's still Fox.
Literally that grave a mistake.
Yes, still Fox.
Still a dumb mistake.
The straight's 200 feet.
and almost two miles wide at certain point, so good news for them.
It's going to be a good trick to landline it.
And you know what?
At 200 feet deep, I can't help because, you know, I think this has been part of, you know,
well, back when the Pentagon actually had an office that was dedicated to these kinds of things,
they would ask questions like, what happened if we lost a carrier in the middle of the Straits of Hormuz?
a modern Gerald R Ford
class aircraft carrier
is almost as tall
as the Straits of Hormuz are deep
Yeah they're about 110 feet tall
Almost a thousand feet long
That would be a real bottleneck
If the Iranian
It's a sudden
saying it could be a shit ton more than six sailors killed.
It'd probably be out in one order of thousands.
Quite possibly up to 5,000.
It's like a small city of carrier.
And you know, I don't know why I'm about to put it this way, but I'm going to.
The Pentagon are a bunch of genuine, dumb-ass dipshits if they aren't sitting there thinking that Iran would love to sink one of our vaunted nuclear carriers.
I wouldn't put it out of a range of possibility if this carries on much long.
We're going to see something horrible happen.
And, I mean, I think we all realize they're lying about the death toll.
It's way higher than they're saying.
It's not six, it's not 12.
It's probably not 100.
It's more than that.
Way more.
Already.
They're hiding it.
But sooner or later, the bodies have to come back to Dover, don't they?
Not if a military-grade incinerators are there to burn them up.
Wouldn't put it past them.
Russia was doing that Ukraine to hide the Russian dead.
Why wouldn't we do it?
That's true.
And Poody is not shy about it.
sharing his wisdom.
Well, I think we're all doubtful on the true number of death.
Putin hit the true number of death.
He said, you know, 100 are dead.
And we knew it was close to, you know, half a million.
Now it's real close to a million.
And he's still saying like 600,000.
Whatever he says, it was six times that number of Ukraine was telling us they were killing
on a daily basis.
But to get back to my point, if he didn't get to it, it doesn't matter.
How many countermeasures our ships have?
All that has to get through is one device.
If that one device hits in the right place,
curtains for the ship.
So countermeasure numbers don't really matter.
There's a percentage of the chance
that they will work, but if they miss
and they fail to stop that rocket or torpedo
or whatever, the ship is fucked
and sort of the people, so that number
really doesn't matter.
Point taken, it only takes one.
Yeah?
Right. One lucky shot.
I mean, it was like
one or two lucky shots that sank to Bismarck.
They weren't that accurate back then, but one hit
the powder magazine cracked it in half, and that's why
saying just a lucky hit.
So, yeah, so anyway, I'll let a Roger talk.
I talked enough last night, and I just wanted to finish up my story, and I'll chime in if I hear from time to time.
But I'll just listen from now.
Okay.
Thanks, Jeremy.
Have a great weekend.
You do.
Roger?
Well, I haven't got a whole fellow a lot.
It's been busy, and somehow I twisted a leg yesterday, so I'm kind of crippled up right now, but it'll be only over time.
Yesterday we taught our protein class.
So we did beans and chicken thighs, and then we put pressure-canned up vegetable brock that we made on the very first lab four weeks ago
where we were teaching knife skills and how to use the little tabletop stoves and that kind of shit.
So I've still got all that shit in the back of my truck.
I've got to get rid of it, but I couldn't do it today.
do it today. I'll do it on Wednesday. And I went to the vigil we hold every Friday outside the
VA. And of course, there were some mega assholes that challenged our right to be there and told us how stupid
we are and Trump is such a great guy and is only trying to defend America and the rest of it.
And then I came across the item that 2,200 Marines are going to hop on a boat and go to Iran.
Yeah, the USS Tripoli.
I don't give a shit if you put 2,200 people in there or what.
I was looking at a map the other day of the topography of Iran.
and it's kind of got mountains kind of all around it.
And if you put a land invasion in,
the defenders are going to be having the high side.
And probably it would take something along the D-Day invasion in France
to get in and go over the mountains
and do something to Iran.
And if he lands one soldier on that ground,
I don't care how pissed off a person is about their government.
When you invade their land,
they are going to defend their land with a ferocity at
is going to be really tough.
When we went into France in World War II,
we weren't fighting the French.
We were fighting the Germans,
and the French helped us.
There is no way that a ground assault in Iran
could have any success whatsoever.
And if we thought it was bad,
I think it's probably going to be the same thing if he decides to scur around and go down to Cuban.
The Cubans may not like their government that they have, but they're going to defend their island.
How could you expect them to do anything else?
Raw, raw, let's go to war, regime, change, et cetera.
They're being delusional.
Doesn't this go back?
Doesn't this go back to, I'm forgiving me, I'm losing my mind right now,
but the guy who wrote the art of war.
He said 5,000 years ago,
the only way to conquer a nation was from within,
not the outside. It has to be internal change.
You can't force it from the outside.
Look us in the Taliban.
As soon as we left, it went right back to it
because they didn't really want it.
Didn't dare stand up against them.
It has to be internal.
Oh, look at Vietnam.
I was thinking of Sun Tzu.
It just struck me, Sun Tzu.
Yeah, Sun Tzu.
But in Vietnam,
we got back at about 1952, 53,
It was clear that Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist.
He was for Vietnam.
He wanted Vietnam for the Vietnamese.
And we couldn't have that, so they created a North Vietnam and a South Vietnam.
And then from 1953 on, until what, 1972, I think, maybe, 20 years of war.
and where is Vietnam now?
It's all one country.
North Vietnam took over the south
and of course people, leaders have died off
and all the rest of it.
But it is a unified country
and it's unified for the Vietnamese.
And you know, they showed themselves
willing to fight the Americans, the Cambodians,
the Chinese, I mean,
because there's a couple of thousand years of history
of being imposed.
pond.
And now they make our sacks
and underwear. And sneakers.
They've always been very good at sneakers.
It's sneaky.
Glad you saw what I did there.
Oh, Chris stopped my joke dead in his tracks.
When you said they're good at sneakers, because they look how they ran around in the jungle.
Pretty sneaky. He stopped me cold my tracks. Good job, Chris.
He got there first.
Yeah.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday, Chris, to her.
You and Michelle both in the room.
That's nice. Happy Friday, Steve.
Happy Friday, Roxanne. How are you?
Hey, Steve. I'm cold. We're burning propane again.
Damn it.
What happened? What's going on?
Cancell spring.
Yeah. Mother Nature got on her meds for a minute, but then she didn't like how they made her feel, so she got off of them.
So she dumped two inches of snow on the ground on us yesterday.
Oh, wow.
In case you missed a reference, Robin, earlier that Gary Adkins guy mentioned in my memorandum, he was a member of this group.
I know.
He was the guy from Alabama Stan.
I just want to make sure you remember.
No, I do remember, I do remember Gary.
Roxanne, did you get the email that I sent you, the secret email?
Yes, I did.
Okay.
And I have smudged and crossed my fingers, and, well, I had to sacrifice a rubber chicken to the goddess of irony at midnight anyway, so I include.
you in the imploring's.
Okay, well, cool.
There was some, the goddess of irony answered, answers your prayer.
Really?
That's all I'll say.
Good.
Good.
Good.
It was some good thing, good stuff that happened and some more good stuff on Monday are
happening.
Excellent.
The goddess answered your prayer.
Well, I'm so glad, I mean, not so glad, but I did.
I canceled my appointment down in North Carolina.
It was just, it was too far to go.
And insurance is being an asshole.
The hell you say?
Insurance?
I know.
Being an asshole?
I know.
She can't be.
That's not, you're lying.
That's not true.
They're always pleasant to work with.
They never deny anything.
Come on out.
Cal-Cupri, right?
But by the same token, with the weather being the way it is, I had no decide.
You know, it's only like maybe 15 or 20 miles.
but it's 15 or 20 terrifying miles for me going down I-77 through Fancy Gap, Virginia,
because the winds howl and blow you all over the road,
and this was just not the time for that.
So, canceled the hotel, canceled the appointment,
and so now my big look forward to is actually 10 days from tomorrow.
Nelsonville, Ohio
And
Why, Robin.
It's that special stereo speaker system along the interstate system
that plays band jam music the whole way through.
That's what terrifies you.
Jeremy, don't quit your night job.
No, but 10 days from tomorrow,
Victoria and I go to Nelsonville, Ohio,
for a Patterson Hood concert.
and it's about maybe an hour from Parkersburg.
I found out there is not a motel in Nelsonville,
so I'll have to find one somewhere else
because I don't want to drive back in the middle of the night.
But I'm really, really looking for it.
I haven't been to a really cool concert in a long time.
So, good things.
Oh, I'm hoping he plays a bunch of drive-by trucker stuff.
Yeah, I'm sure.
And Victoria is already checking out the set list.
And it's going to be a good time.
A quiet bunch this evening.
So who's next on the chopping block?
Do you think it's Whiskey Pete or M. Blondie?
No, I think it's going to be Jojo.
Yeah.
Yeah, but...
Oh, did she do her behind closed doors meeting or hearing?
Did that happen this week?
I'm not sure.
I didn't see coverage.
Yeah, that went flying right under the radar, right?
down the memory hole with all the other shit going on.
You talking about Pam Bondi?
Yeah.
Yeah, Michelle.
Hi.
Hi, Michelle.
Hi, honey.
How are you?
Who was that meant for?
Was that meant for Chris or was that meant for me?
That was meant for all of you.
All those men.
All those beautiful men.
Okay, well, I'm doing okay, actually, myself.
Who's talking?
That's, that's, that's,
Hi, Steve. How are you?
Doing okay. Hanging in there.
Yeah, me too. I just dyed my hair brown.
Oh, you're tired of the red already?
It's faded, so it's like, what the hell? I'm going to go, I'm going to go back to my roots, so to speak, literally.
I heard what you did there.
Did Bondi, was it a testify?
Yeah, it was supposed to be behind closed doors, I thought.
Close doors session.
I don't know if it was supposed to be this week or it's coming week.
No, not today.
She recently faced our subpoenas vote, subpoena.
We have a death toll on the synagogue attack today.
It was today or yesterday?
No, it was yesterday.
None.
But there isn't, there is an update.
and it's just so fucking tragic.
It took place in Michigan,
and it was a reform synagogue,
and the guy who tried to ram his vehicle,
well, and drove the vehicle into the synagogue,
Iman Muhammad Ghazali,
was naturalized in the United States,
and you know
he was taking out his angst
on people who had not said a crossword to him
but he was Lebanese
and this is the important point
this is just so damn sad
I guess he decided he had nothing to live for
because he had recently found out
about two weeks prior,
the Israelis
had murdered
four members of his family
back in Lebanon.
And it's
God, God, God.
And there's part of the problem.
He gets violence, he gets violence, and
been going out for thousands of years.
And the guy wasn't...
I'm sorry, Michelle, please.
He was the only fatality.
one else was right exactly he came to the u.s in 2011 on a family related visa as the spouse of a
u.s. citizen he got u.s. citizenship in 2016 and he held down a job at a Mediterranean
restaurant called hamido in deerborn heights but in the last couple of weeks hadn't
been showing up for work
You can imagine why.
Oh, yeah.
He just found out that his entire extended family was murdered by Israel.
Well, I didn't hear that that was the only family that he had there.
No, he had family here.
He was married to a U.S. citizen.
But, yeah, four members of his, not his entire family,
but four members of his family just slaughtered out of hand by the Israelis.
Yeah, so both as brothers and then his brother's two children, a boy and a girl.
I don't know how old the children were.
Right, exactly.
Yeah.
And it was March the 5th when that happened.
The Lebanese town of Mushkarah, a woman was also wounded.
But the thing is, one fellow interviewed by the guardian, Rami Achkar, who,
regularly dines at Hamido, said he's the face of the restaurant. I've known him for years.
It's a study in what horror and grief will do to the human mind.
Well, I want to add that the brothers were part of, I don't remember what it's called, but it's a,
it's one of the organizations or whatever you want to call it in Lebanon that it's
is they're basically like ISIS or Taliban.
Are you talking about Hezbollah?
Are you talking about Hezbollah?
Thank you.
Is that for sure?
Well, that's what I heard on the news this morning.
Well, they were killed in their home.
Kassim Ghazali was a personal trainer as well as a well-known soccer coach.
Ibrahim Ghazali, his brother, was a bus driver in the village
and apparently Iman Ghazali's father was in the U.S. and returned to Lebanon recently.
Well, he can be a bus driver and be terrorists, you know.
But the thing is, that village, Mashkara,
is a politically and religiously diverse town.
There's about 25,000 people in the Becah Valley.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that.
And, yeah, and Iskandar Baraka, who was, again, the mayor, said,
I asked a lot, but no one said anything.
He wasn't affiliated with any party.
I don't know why their residence was targeted.
but the Israelis also hit two multi-apartment blocks in the town as well as the community center
and they also well bombed a Christian cemetery not dead enough
oh hey Roxanne can I ask a question real quick sure what was the name of the town
Musgarra or Masgara I'm going to guarantee you that that was not a Muslim town
no it says that the uh the uh the mayor probably a maranite because the christian the mayor's name
sounds christian to me so this notion that he was a member of hesbalah i think is a bunch of
garbage it was a he was a christian well and and in fact in fact the mayor said in fact
the mayor said in mascara you can consider it like lebanon itself among christians you have roman
catholics greek orthodox protestants marinites and latins among the muslim group
you have Shia, Drews, Sunnis.
As for political parties, everything exists there.
Every party in the world is represented.
Lebanon is the ultimate melting pot.
Always has been.
Yeah.
Really?
There was a time when there was a time when Beirut was the Paris of the Levant.
I just, I'm going to pull a Roxanne here and talk about, I'm going to talk about Lebanon
in the way that you talk about the ancient world.
well i mean Lebanon is part of the ancient world so rock on
okay Lebanon
what was what was is is is what's called a
consociational democracy
that
each part of its government
is is dedicated
to each of its ethnic
uh... um...
people's
part of it is Druze
is dedicated to Druze
like the presidency i believe
believe is a Maronite Christian. Maronites are also Roman Catholics now.
Certain part of its legislature, like the speaker of its legislature, I believe, is
confined to somebody who is a Muslim.
I spent my entire career fighting for justice and to make sure that the law applies to all of us.
Wait, where's that coming from?
Oh, sorry.
Okay.
Okay, please continue.
Please continue, Steve.
Yeah, so from what you're telling me, the names of the folks involved here are not Muslim.
So they're not going to be part, and his bala is called the party of God, number one.
Number two, nobody likes to hear what I'm about to say, and it's going to sound extremely
controversial. And it's the same
thing with, it was the same
thing with the PLO. It's the same thing
with the, what was the other group
in Gaza?
Not the PLO, the other one.
Hamas. Hamas. And
Hezbollah is the same way.
These are not just, these are not
just groups that are just a bunch of
damn terrorists. These
are groups that sadly,
very sadly, in a lot
of these countries are the only
form of government there is.
They're the ones providing food.
They're the ones providing medicine.
They're the ones providing education.
They're the ones providing housing.
They're the ones providing clothing for a lot of these people.
That's absolutely true.
And what does this tell us about the Middle East?
The Middle East is never quite what it seems.
It's never as simple as, you're Hezbollah.
You're a terrorist.
You're Hamas.
You're a terrorist.
They have horrible, god-awful terrorist factions.
But in a lot of these places, those are the only people providing food, shelter, clothing, education, and whatever for these people.
So it's never as simple as it seems.
Yeah.
No, no, no, it isn't.
And somewhere in the archives of the Horn, on one of his broadcast, Dr. Bill took on the whole.
I'm talking out of school here, but he's already said it on air, so it doesn't matter.
Dr. Bill's father, for part of his employment, worked for the mob in Boston.
And Dr. Bill talked about how when he went off to college, his dad's boss came and gave him a sizable thing.
amount of money and said go away from here and get your education and don't come back and dr bill went
into this exegesis of how organizations like the mob do exactly what you just described steve and he talked
i think about um john goddy and the gambinos and how those people were respected in their
communities because they took care of the food, the clothing, the shelter, the education, the widows,
because things are not as simple as they seem.
And after going through this long discussion, I remember, because I used to joke that on Dr. Bill's program,
he would lay out all of this information, and then at the very end of it, I remember Jack and Shreveport would listen,
and he'd ride in and go, and there it is, whack,
because at the very end of the program,
Dr. Bill would just come out with an axe handle and just whack you, right in it.
And in this case, he laid out all of this about, you know, growing up, child of the mob,
that kind of thing, and described everything they did.
And at the end, he said, and that's Hamas.
And, of course, you can also look to, you know, Ronald Reagan,
California when they had a shit hemorrhage over the Black Panther Party for self-defense.
Well, the Black Panthers weren't just out there running around bombing people or shooting people.
That's the way that they were portrayed in national media.
They were educating people.
They were feeding people.
They were clothing people.
They were doing Matthew 25 work.
But they were also dedicated to defending their community against.
against a violent and corrupt system that had been abusive for years, decades, centuries.
Realistically, the only reason that breakfast is served in schools from around the country now,
but it started out in California was because the Black Panthers were feeding kids breakfast at the elementary schools.
because so many of the kids were coming hungry,
but they decided to start a breakfast program.
Wow.
And you know what? Let me say this.
Shame on us.
Shame on us
that it takes groups like this
to feed,
house, and clothes people.
Shame on us.
Absolutely.
Shame on the entire world.
Casting these people
aside and not treating them as people.
Yeah.
That's the fundamental.
That's the fundamental.
We dehumanize.
You know, in any war situation, your first job is to dehumanize your enemy.
Look at the propaganda efforts of the Warner Brothers animation studios and how they portrayed Japanese people in the early days of the war.
in the early 1940s.
It was pure racism.
Well, it's happening now.
Look at Pan Party.
You're all saying.
They're all fucked up way.
It goes back to Al Qaeda, too.
They did the same thing.
Well, Afghanistan uprising.
Those people did the same thing for their people.
It was like a little government that took care of their people.
As much as we hated what they did to women, how they treated them,
they still took care of their people.
Yeah, Al-Qaeda was...
Al-Qaeda started out as a kind of...
kind of uh,
Mujahideen VA,
if you will.
Yes.
They took care of their people.
They took care of veterans' wives
that had been killed,
this and that.
I helped with medical stuff.
They did stuff.
Yes,
they're evil in the way
you treat certain people,
but they're kind of like,
you know,
uh,
losing my mind.
I was just saying about it.
So yeah.
Well, Michelle,
uh,
what were you?
Steve,
I can't say your name.
What were you saying,
Michelle?
What was I say?
saying anything. I do have an update on Pam Bondi. I do have an update on Pam Bondi.
She was apparently she moved into a heavily, uh, uh, secured, um, uh, like a military base.
On base, yeah, and basically a mansion on base for the officer class.
Well, like she moved today. So it's, it's, uh, it's, uh,
Apparently, where she was staying before,
they have had to place her into or move her to someplace that's even more heavily guarded
because of all the threats to her, to her security, to her life.
She moved on, like, Monday or Tuesday.
Yeah, she moved to a base because Epstein file supposedly threats on her life.
Good enough.
But she was not a base before then, right?
She has been a base.
No, that was, no, that was Krusty the nasty Nazi gnome.
Oh, okay.
She did.
Her of Corey.
Yeah.
Okay.
And by the way, you didn't generate the controversy you thought you were going to generate, Steve.
Among other things, Tamara just wrote in and said, Steve's exactly right.
Don't bomb children is pretty simple nonetheless.
Amen.
Yep.
You don't want to be seen as evil.
Don't do evil things.
and back to that whole
Fetterman thing if you didn't read it
Roman?
Robin, Jesus, I'm thinking about
Roman right now, sorry,
back to what you said about Fetterman.
Tell that to the fucking Native American
villages. We don't target civilians.
That's what I meant when I said
Sand Creek,
Jeremy.
Colonel Chivington
upon being asked, what about the women and children
replying,
kill them, kill them all.
Nits,
make lice.
I thought it sounded familiar, but I wasn't sure.
But, yes, we did it to many, many villages, not just that one.
Can I, I know I said it, and you basically said you didn't know.
But can we just fucking get rid of him here?
I don't know.
How?
What?
Yeah.
Every time I hear him, I just want to say, you hear.
What is your purpose?
What are you doing here?
Why are you here?
Which one?
Federman.
Oh, oh.
Oh, well, 2028 doesn't look like a great year for him.
It'll be a presidential election year.
But that means there's more than two years if it hasn't already, if it's not already in motion, that there will be a primary challenger.
Hell, maybe Connor Lamb.
Because honestly, Roxanne, when I listen, when you played that clip today, I'm sitting there listening to myself, I'm sitting there listening to and thinking, he's talking.
Fox News talking points.
Yes.
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
He's not a plant.
He had a stroke.
It changed his personality.
And his office staff said it made it worse when he went off psychotic medications to control that.
He's a different person he was when he was elected.
100% different radical change.
It was the stroke.
It happens sometimes.
It sucks.
Yeah.
Let's just put him out the pasture.
John, hey, good for you, John.
Time to go rest.
There's a farm up state, yeah.
There's a farm up state.
And you can run and play.
But I wanted to say something about the bigotry and everything.
And, you know, it kind of goes to all the commercials.
I seem to be inundated with anti-Semitism commercials.
right and that and there's no question since the orange pus bag came down the golden shower escalator
uh 2015 any semester has been on a steady rise up up up up steady increase but so is every other
bigotry of every other group has been on the rise up up up in the past decade plus you know
well and some and and christopher's and christopher's christopher's christopher's
Some of it goes hand in hand.
I mean, I suppose there are some who don't like to be reminded.
But before the Nazis ever went after the Jews, who did they go after?
They went after the disabled.
They went after the gays.
They went after the trans.
The queers?
The gypsies who lived a different lifestyle.
The Roma?
The Christian lived in one place.
The trades unions.
Well, I mean, they went from the smallest group,
and they just got gradually larger until they got to the Jews.
And when, I mean, it's kind of a playbook.
If you start with tiny little marginalized communities,
everybody else around goes, oh, well, I mean, yeah, okay,
Maybe we'd be better off without them.
Them.
There's always a them.
Hold on.
It was, I remember it being told that the reason why they targeted the Jews is because they were, they weren't hungry when the majority of the Germans were.
they they they they they they they they that was I mean that was the excuse yes yes no no I
but that's that's what the excuse was that they gave to the citizens to have them join in on their
little massacre is oh you're hungry your children are hungry because of the Jews and so
you know stupid people desperate people listening to outrageous
Facts, I mean, it's, it's, it's, precious.
We're doing it here.
Well, you know what?
But actually, the Germans had their own version of the lost cause.
Yeah, they did.
The treaty of Versailles.
Yeah.
Was blamed on the Bolsheviks and the Jews.
And if you know anything about that history there, the Bolsheviks, quote, unquote, and the Jews,
were kind of equated as the same group of people
who sold out the German people.
That's what led Hitler to write Mind Kampf.
From prison.
From prison.
From prison.
And because...
And because he...
When he was an aspiring artist,
you know, had the University of, I think it was Zurich,
admitted him to their art school.
Imagine how much the world would have changed.
How about that?
I mean, there's some truth in that.
But I want to put these things in perspective,
and yeah, this is one of those stories.
I haven't really given it much mention,
but this is terrifying.
And it came out of the Fourth United States Circuit Court of Appeals
a couple of days ago.
And it
it's hateful and hey
it came from West Virginia
sounds like a horror movie doesn't it
it came from West Virginia
I saw an AI gag the other day
in fact
before I go into what I'm going into now
let me see if I can play this for it
because you'll at least
get a giggle out of it
just a second
there she is
Okay, standby.
Let's take a look.
We have begun a new special forces operation in Iran.
We will be sending 500 meth heads from West Virginia.
The meth heads have crippled Iran's wiring and plumbing system,
and the president says help is on the way.
The FBI located Florida man with an alligator in a shopping cart at a Dollar General in Broward County.
I knew you were in my wall.
Made out of over 250 catalytic converters,
Florida man was hiding what he called the reciprocator in his scrap yard.
What do you...
I mean, it's just an AI bit, but yeah, we're going to cripple Iran by sending 500 meth heads from West Virginia.
Hi, yeah.
Are you saying?
No, as in methamphetamine.
Methamphetamine.
I'm sorry.
That's kind of meth, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought I was hearing it wrong.
Like Wendy from freaking bad.
And is that a parody?
Yeah, that's parody.
That's what I said.
It's an AI comedy bit.
But this part is not.
So, again, going back to understanding how fascist regimes attack marginalized communities,
start with the smallest and work your way up.
Trans people in this country are maybe 1% of the population.
Maybe one.
So you don't get much more.
you don't get much more marginalized than that,
or to put it in Matthew 25 terms,
you don't get much more least of these than that.
Well, the state of West Virginia went barking and grunting
and moaning to the Fourth United States Circuit Court of Appeals
because they passed a law, our brain-drained maggot legislature did,
that said Medicaid funds could not be used to provide medical treatment for trans people.
whether it be medicine, surgery, anything.
The Fourth United States Circuit Court of Appeals took one look at that and said,
get the fuck out of here and rejected it en banc by an eight to six vote.
Well, the maggots appealed, the Supreme Court, vacated the ruling and sent it back to Richmond for further consideration
under a case called the holding called Scermetti out of Tennessee,
which has to do with care for children, not adults.
This is so flagrantly and blatantly illegal,
but not in this shitty timeline.
And so a couple of days ago, the Fourth Circuit held
in a
in the ruling from a three judge panel
and Steve I'm going to have a
and billable if you're out there
I'm going to have a question here in a minute
on federal procedure
I think I know the answer but I may be wrong
but they held
that states
and this is
this is hard to even say
states
can compel
trans people who are adults, well, they can ban access to care with the goal of, with the goal of compelling trans adults to appreciate their sex and not be dismissive of their sex.
Now, what that means is that state has a right to try to forcibly engage in conversion therapy against trans people.
And ground zero for this holding is West Virginia.
Now, I'm not on Medicaid.
But if the state of West Virginia decides to under this set of rules, they can pay.
ask a bill saying that
it's a crime
for me
to have estrogen.
And there is a petition
before the FDA, even as
we speak, to
basically put estrogen
on Schedule 1
of the DEA's
narcotics list, right there with
heroin, right there with Coke,
right there with fentanyl.
and frankly you know they can't make me go back to behaving like a man that would be just forcing me into drag but they can try to take away my access to life-saving medication because without some level of hormones that I no longer naturally produce pretty much the same as any postmenopausal woman well my bones will turn to chalk my heart rhythm will
get fucked up and I'll die.
Debted and Farrow's cat.
And the fourth United States Circuit
Court of Appeal said, cool.
But the three...
Dr. Oz gives a shit.
But the three judges were all maggots.
Because the sane members
of that court had previously
rejected West Virginia's
claim. And so
it came back down
upon the ruling being
vacated by the court.
They said to reconsider it within
the meaning of the skirmetti holding
and
this three-judge panel of maggots did that
here's where my question comes in
when the case was initially filed
the three-judge panel ruling
was reviewed by the en banc panel
who said by an eight to six vote
no
this is unconstitutional a f
now under the rules of
federal appellate procedure you can only
petition for en banc one time.
But that is within
the universe of a
single case.
So like if you petition,
if you lose
on the three judge panel
and you petition for en banc
and the court says no, you can't petition
for en banc again within
that setting.
David and Oregon,
if you're out there, welcome your thoughts.
but this however having gone up and been vacated in other words the ruling doesn't exist anymore coming back down being decided
they should still be the plaintiff should still be able to petition for an en banc hearing correct
and even within the ambit of strutte decent moral upright rational reasonable judges who rejected this
bullshit the first time through, should have the right to excoriate, if nothing else, excoriate
the ruling of the three-judge panel. Does this make any sense? And to, if nothing else,
point out the ways that they misinterpreted Scermetti, starting with the fact that Scermetti is
about children, and this is about adults. So, curious to know your thoughts.
I can tell you, this is Steve, I can tell you, I don't litigate anymore.
So a lot of this stuff is beyond my pay grade.
I apologize, that's not the answer that I would like to give you.
But I would invite Rick and David to chime in on this.
I just, I don't litigate anymore, so I just don't know.
And I apologize for that.
Oh, that's okay.
That's okay.
But it's a frightening time.
I found it interesting when, you know, at first it was.
It was en banc.
And then it went up to the Supreme Court.
Supreme Court bounces it back.
And then it goes to a three judge panel.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it went to.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Surprise.
No, no, Chris.
That's not what happened.
That's not what happened.
It went to the three judge panel.
The three judge panel ruled wrongly.
Then it went to the en banc.
It went to the en banc, which is the whole court.
I guess it hasn't gone to the Supreme Court yet.
Oh.
Oh, no, it has. It has. It has, Steve.
That's what I thought you'd have said.
Yeah.
Oh, okay. I didn't, I did not understand.
Three judge panel, en banc ruled eight to six in favor of the plaintiffs.
The maggots appealed.
The Supreme Court vacated the ruling and said to reconsider it in light of Scermetti.
The three judge panel then reconsidered in light of Scrimetti and said it's okay to torture trans people.
So now I say that's a fresh.
ruling because of the vacation
and so they should be
able to get en banc and on bunk
hearing again
and you know maybe
maybe the court just throws it the decent
people on the court just throw their hands up and say
well you know this is where we are
I'm sorry I misunderstood
but one would like
for there to be a judge
a judge
Justice Harlan on the court
to excoriate
the majority and their
pathetic attempt at reasoning
the same way that Justice
Harlan did in the dissent
to Plessy, which is far more well
known than the actual
majority opinion in Plessy.
Because Harlan's
dissent has withstood the test
of time, whereas everybody
understands that the majority in Plessy
were just a bunch of filthy old fucking
white men racists.
So, I mean, that's the way that played
out. Eventually, though,
the way this is going,
One of these chuds will eventually write the words, in an opinion, damning trans people, will write the words,
a trans person has no rights which a cis person is bound to respect.
Sound familiar?
Any guesses where that...
There's that othering again.
Any guesses where that language comes from?
you've said it before
Roxanne
tell us again
that comes from Justice
Roger B. Taney
in Dred Scott
Dred Scott
I was just going to say Dred Scott
That's right
We're there
We're there
People living their lives
Minding their own business
have to be compelled
To appreciate their sex
There's not much they can do
to me because I did everything I could to prepare for this day.
But for the trans people, and they're focused on trans women who have not been able to,
because you've got to jump through a lot of what Scott Marinoff used to refer to as flaming barbed wire hoops to get sex reassignment surgery.
For the trans women who have not been able to do that, they can be forcibly detransitioned.
They can be forced to have their bodies masculine eyes.
again. And it's a horror. A horror.
Roxanne, what's your passport status? Don't have one.
Can't get one. You can't get one? No.
Wow. It's like, well, okay. No, no, let me be, let me be fair here, Christopher. I could get one.
It would say mail under this, this junto. And then when I tried to use it and presented myself at
who's ever, you know, border, fly across the country, France, Germany, or fly across the ocean, France, Germany, cross into Mexico, cross into Canada.
They can look at that M and then look at me and go, this is a fraudulent passport, and take me away.
That's the reality.
You know what, Roxanne, you know what's going to end up happening, don't you?
People, trans folks, are going to end up seeking asylum.
in other countries.
Yeah.
It's happening now, isn't it, Roxanne?
A lot of people are fleeing, aren't they?
Yeah.
But the thing is,
flee how?
And some people are limited in their ability to flee.
Yeah.
I'm one of those people.
Michelle was going to talk.
Hold on a second.
I need to cut in here for saying to a little modding.
Michelle, on your screen,
at the bottom of your screen,
there's a little camera icon of mic.
when you're not talking, please hit that mic.
You're making noise in the background.
I serve a media because you will not do it when I ask you to me.
I'll undo it, but please do it in the future when you're not talking.
Thanks, Jeremy.
Yes.
Okay.
What I was saying is, if you don't have a passport, you can't escape.
It's a double-edged sword.
No, and they want us here.
They want us here.
You have to seek asylum if you don't have a passport.
That's the only option.
And nobody's granting it to Americans.
Not one country.
I will tell you that there's actually consideration in the House of Commons in Canada to do so.
I heard some about Portugal, too.
Well, if you seek asylum in any of the larger European countries, the Netherlands, Germany, France,
it is literally a tormented existence.
so there's that but I wanted to add on to all of that and by the way
we're a quarter of the way into the third hour of the program
y'all were so close we are so close
there's only $125 away from turning
well $125 more dollars turns into 2000
to keep this operation funded
courtesy of Auntie Katz challenge
beyond that there's
Charlene and Rogue's Islands
challenge
and that would get us caught up
if both of those were met
in other words a total of $425
we'd be caught up to everything
but two hours of yesterday
and then today
I just implore
please don't let this doubling challenge go
these I mean this is huge
this kind of has an existential
quality to it
I don't know if that was a
come or go
No I'm a shell left
Okay
I hope her feelings weren't hurt
Maybe
check in Christopher
But I want to go to
A story out of the ninth
United States Circuit Court of Appeals
This is disgusting
It's a case out of Washington State, which has some of the most robust protections for trans people in the country.
And they shut down a claim from something called Olympus Spa.
And the Korean owners of Olympus Spa argued that they had a religious right to exclude people from their spa for being trans.
well this brings us to a maggot appointee on that court
by the name of Lawrence Van Dyke
because the goddess of irony is a good goddess
in his descent
his lone descent
Van Dyke engaged in
a level of lewd conduct
that should get him bounced off the bench
if we had any ethics in our judicial system.
In his dissent, he called anti-discrimination laws for trans people
Frankenstein social experiments.
And he's a goon.
He does this all the time.
But Dahlia Lithwick at Slate said to her co-host, Mark Joseph Stern,
who is a brilliant legal analyst,
that he outdid himself with this one
and Stern said, I don't want to give him the attention
he so richly craves
by quoting from his descent
but he said
although Van Dyke regularly belittles his own federal appeals court
with juvenile insults, this latest shock jock routine
crossed the line from attention-grabbing performance art
into outright vulgarity
prompting an unprecedented rebuke
from 29 of his own colleagues
across the entire ideological spectrum.
They said it was a grotesque Supreme Court
audition.
And Stern noted his trolling, however, may well
draw the attention of President Trump,
who was clearly the intended audience.
But the problem is that
all these shenanigans, quote,
will eventually undermine the entire project
of judicial independence.
And I'm trying to see if I could,
they do not quote from the opinion,
I want to see if there's a link to it anywhere.
It's paywalled.
Wait a minute.
Maybe this is it.
Yeah, there it is.
Accordingly, the petitions for panel rehearing and rehearing on bunk are denied.
In other words, the right side one.
And I'm trying to get down here too.
Because we don't hide from this nastiness.
People need to hear just how awful these maggot shitbirds are.
But God, this is going to take a lot of scrolling.
Let's see here.
Let's go to page 75.
I'm sorry for the dead air.
Oh, yeah, there he is.
Basically accuses every trans woman of being a wire or an indecent exposure.
this thing's just nasty
and no I'm not going to
that's what Jesus told him
he says yes
the introduction to this dissent intentionally
uses indecorous language
but that is quite literally what
this case is about
male genitalia is precisely and only
what the spa for religious reasons
objects to admitting into its female
only space
the fact
oh my god trigger warning
the fact that so many on our
court want to pretend that this case is
anything other than swinging dicks
is the very reason the
shocking language is necessary.
Sickening.
He should be removed from the bench.
Good God.
It does, like I said,
get tiresome.
But I've got some breaking news.
This just came in
in the form of spam
from the White House.
Big spammers.
The White House.
Thank you,
Tom and Sunny San Rafael.
You just got us down to 115.
And Matt in San Francisco.
Hey, Matt.
Just said, I'll do 125.
Come on, fellow hornistas.
Shake them couch cushions.
We endanger, girl.
Yes, we are.
And I want to go on to something else along those lines.
So if that's the case, then Auntie Kat's challenge is met.
and whether you meant to or not, Matt,
you just started us on Charlene's Challenge,
so there's 290 to go on that.
But we are in danger.
I wanted to go ahead and mention this as well.
It's Friday, so we'll go ahead and...
So this story comes, of course, from where else?
Idaho,
House of Representatives
this past Tuesday
I'm sorry, what?
Just go on, never mind.
It's a stupid joke.
This past Tuesday, the Idaho House of Representatives
passed a resolution
to ask
our most puissant,
dread sovereign, Supreme Catholic
Majesties to overturn
Obergefell.
A creep from Post
Falls, a maggot named
Tony Wisniewski,
sponsored House Joint Memorial 17, calling on the nation's high court to reverse Obergefell
and quote, restore the natural definition of marriage, a union of one man and one wo man.
It doesn't affect the law as such, but what it does represent is a disgusting acquiescence or agreement with the dissent filed by
Clarence Pubes on the Coke Can Fappy Thomas
in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health
where he called upon the states
to bring him cases
that he could use
to overturn marriage equality.
They were coming for it.
We knew it.
Yeah.
Listen, if you are not white
and cis and male and Christian
in this country,
you have no
rights which those white
cis Christian males
are obliged to respect
see when they run out of us
see there's 300 different
Christianity sects right
and then they'll go after
eventually it has to
right that's how that's how
that's how fascism rolls
yes
it may be worth mentioning since we're alive
on the air still I just accepted
Darrell in Houston so if you can hear us join
Hey, Darrell.
By the way, Matt also noted, appreciate their sex.
If only they knew how.
Well, the problem is, Matt, they do appreciate their sex.
Unfortunately, they mostly appreciate it with children.
I mean, that's why, I mean, it's not the maggot party anymore.
It's just the pedophile party.
And yet, thank you, Ralphs.
Thank you, Ralph.
Kayla and Teagan really want these challenges to be met.
Those kitties will shred your blinds.
I'm just, you know, just a warning.
And I did get a note from Billable Rick.
Hey, Billable.
Fourth Circuit case out of West Virginia and loose ends.
I don't see why there can't be another en banc review of the three-judge maggot panel
in the case that you've discussed.
It's essentially a new opinion since the maggot panel has reinterpreted the challenged statute in light of Scermetti.
Thus, an en banc panel can review that opinion in light of Scermette.
of the Supreme Court's remand order.
P.S. of worst comes to worse,
and estrogen is relisted as a Schedule 1 drug,
you can always import the hormone from Canada
or France. Is the FDA going to
relist testosterone as a Schedule 1 drug?
Unfortunately, billable,
testosterone is already
a listed, controlled substance,
because it is a much stronger
steroid than estrogen is.
So the trans guys out there
have an even harder time
accessing their
hormone replacement therapy than trans women.
I'm still waiting for a state to ban all vasectomies,
dispelable. For some reason, I doubt whether the latter two things will ever happen.
Well, here's the thing.
They'll ban it under the Scrimetti rationale.
They'll ban it for trans people only because it's a treatment for gender dysphoria.
and this twisted reasoning says we're not discriminating against trans people,
we're discriminating against gender dysphoria.
It's a nightmare.
Wait a minute.
You're trying to tell me that a man's desire for a vasectomy is gender dysphoria?
No.
I didn't say that at all.
I said what they're doing, they're banning access to hormones only for trans people.
Let Bobby Kennedy go on and keep on jamming needles full of testosterone in his ass,
but they won't let a trans guy.
Bobby Kennedy can juice all the tea he wants.
And cis women who are postmenopausal who benefit from hormone replacement therapy
can continue to access it because it's not being prescribed for gender dysphoria.
The Scrimetti ruling says that they are only discriminating against.
a condition. Wow.
And hey, double wow.
TJ, thank you.
Oh, my God. Thank you so much.
Y'all, we might have the biggest miracle we've had in ages here
because we've only got $190 to go on Charlene's challenge now.
And I would love nothing more than to close the program
and send out notes to both Auntie Kat and Charlene and say,
hey, both challenges met.
Only 190 to go.
thank you so so much
this is going to
make bill paying possible
and that's
well
that literally
keeps us on the air for another
for another
month
I hope
oh and
by the way when it comes to
appreciating their sex
why can't
why can't
I mean this
why can't
why can't
cis men appreciate the fact that their dicks don't work anymore.
There's never any talk about that.
It's only about trans people appreciating their sex.
And, of course, not to be disdainful of their sex.
That was more of the language.
Well, why aren't we telling cis men not to be disdainful of their sex
by trying to continue to have sexual performance
that evolution itself doesn't want them to have.
But we're not going to ban Bobby Kennedy's Sealis or Viagra
because his entire personality is his ability to fuck.
So there's that.
I know. It's gross.
Oh, and back to what Stephen New York said about, you know, Hamas, Hezbo, et cetera,
and I told the Dr. Bill's story.
Reverbo said,
Aren't some of your observations about the Panthers,
the mob, etc., are calculated and successful business model for these groups?
I'm pretty sure the Viet Cong fed and looked after the suffering peasants in their country,
but that doesn't mitigate these groups violent terrorist activities.
Hey, we're really bad, but we do good things too.
Just food for thought for the conversation here.
Yeah.
I mean, you can say that about us, too.
Hey, we're a great country.
We love freedom.
We believe in mom and Chevroletes and apple pies, and sometimes we just have to bomb some little girls.
It reminds me of that incredibly profound short story by Ursula K. Le Guin, the ones who walk away from Amalas.
If you've never read it, you really, really should.
It's deeply thought-provoking.
And hello?
Yeah.
Can I just say something?
Yeah.
I'm not minimizing the horrible things that any of those groups do at all.
In fact, I was very clear in stating that they do horrible things.
And I was talking about that in the context of desperate people having nowhere else to turn.
Right.
I mean, in Lebanon, Hezbollah, that's all people have.
It's either take food from them or don't eat.
and it's the same thing with Hamas and Gaza.
But like you said, I mean, we're the same country that was giving food to people via U.S. aid all the while we're overthrowing governments.
All the while we're killing how many people, all the while we killed how many people in Iraq, you know, how, what, 20 years ago?
More than a million.
We kind of stopped counting.
All I'm saying is that nothing is ever what it seems.
That's all my point is.
And that to conclude that these groups are a this or a that really fails to see the full picture.
Do I like the fact that these groups also do these other things?
No.
But am I going to criticize somebody who says, I take money from them or I don't eat?
How do I criticize someone like that?
I know.
I know.
A pretty simple choice.
And as a population, as our education decreases as it has since 1980, that magic year, right, the ability to construe nuance of, you know, everything has to be black and white, right?
It is or it isn't.
the ability to see nuance in situations like and in groups like Hamas,
Hasbila, and Mujahideen, Al-Qaeda, whatever,
kind of goes by the wayside, right?
I mean, here's the extreme example.
Would we, would I be saying the same thing about the Nazis in Germany?
Well, the Nazis, yes, they committed a general.
genocide, but they gave food to people. It strikes me that that's probably, you know, that's the
exception to the rule that I'm tacitly stating here. But I understand what Reverbo is saying,
I get it. But it's the same, but I just want to be clear, I'm not, I'm not saying that that
justifies the bad that these people do. All I'm saying is, for October 7th, there's none. There's
absolutely no justification at all.
At the same time, there's no justification, unless you talk to, what's the guy's name?
Oh, Martin Finkelstein.
What does he say?
He basically said, I can understand why they did what they did.
Well, there's a difference between condoning and understanding, I guess.
True.
Well, what was the guy's name?
Ward Churchill?
Took me a minute.
Lost an academic career because after 9-11, he said the chickens were coming home to roost.
Right, out there in Colorado.
Yeah.
No, no, this was out in Colorado.
The guy was a professor at a university of Colorado Boulder.
I think so.
I thought it was Obama's pastor.
No, no, no, that was, that was Jeremiah Wright and God damn America.
No, Professor Dr. Ward Churchill, I think.
said that 9-11 was a classic example of the chickens coming home to roost,
and in a national spasm, he lost his career almost overnight,
for saying something that was objectively arguably true.
And Roxanne, in all fairness from what Chris is saying,
Reverend Wright did say that. The chickens were coming home to roost.
Well, I think so too did Dr. King.
Yes.
Or maybe it was Malcolm X.
I'm just clarifying, but you're right.
I don't think it was Ward Churchill, but I know who you're talking about.
Yeah, it was Ward Churchill.
Was it Churchill?
Is that his name?
Yeah, Ward Churchill.
Okay.
That just bubbled right up from my brain, so it doesn't usually put, I mean, because it was a big deal.
I mean, the loyal Bushies wanted to tear him limb from limb and eat his flesh.
and yeah
and
I just
obviously I'm still triggered by that
that entire time
because we completely
shut down
any kind of nuanced
debate or discussion
about
especially when Osama bin Laden
sent a letter saying here is exactly
why I did this
yeah
and he said
you put your boots on my
filthy you put your boots
on my your filthy boots on my
your filthy boots on my
your filthy boots
my sacred Saudi sand and you got it coming and by the way we had a soldier wounded or killed
because we've got boots back on sacred Saudi sand again oh no yeah can I just tell you know you know you know what
you know what our war is going to have the effect it's going to have the effect of doing we're actually going to have the
effect of uniting the Persians and the Arabs and the Shia and the Sunnis.
Oh, that's a tall order, Steve.
Yeah, I mean, that's, but wouldn't that be something?
I don't, I don't, I don't think the most serene high graciousness,
Mohammed bin Bonesaw would let Saudi do that.
Iraq is too weak.
But, but remember, one of the big thing, the big thing that Iraq and
Iran had in common.
Their majority Shia.
Right. Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, I got a note from camera.
Subject line, Roxanne, I'm so pissed off.
Gavin Newsom recently said that a culture of
wokeness tricked him into supporting gay marriage.
What?
He said that.
He did.
If you make, if you, if you, it, it, it was at the same time that he was, uh,
lecturing, uh, the Democratic Party about,
trying to be more normal and not talking about pronouns so damned much.
Can I just say something?
Let me finish Tamara's note.
Sorry about that.
Newsom recently said that a culture of wokeness tricked him into supporting gay marriage.
If you make marriage exclusive to white, cis, Christian, heterosexual, nuclear families with money,
no one else, including women and children, will have rights.
We're almost there.
well again tamera the language from the descent in jackson versus uh dobs versus jackson whole women's health
from the moment of fertilization
a woman has no rights to speak of we're already there jesus what is he saying
yeah yeah i don't understand that you mean what what is news that newsom saying
Yeah, what's he said?
Is he saying he regrets supporting gay marriage?
It's what it sounds like to me.
It does kind of sound like that.
That's insane.
He's trying to slither ever rightward
because of his presidential ambitions.
And he tried to crawl out in the same interview,
he tried to crawl out of the hole by saying,
well, I've signed more pro-trans legislation
than any other governor in the country.
And I support the transies in everything but trans in women's sports.
Meanwhile, there are maggot states out there that are segregating five-year-olds playing soccer now.
Can you reread what Gavin's statement was, please?
I don't have the article here in front of me.
I talked about it several nights ago.
But basically said he was tricked by wokeness into supporting marriage equality.
It's insane.
I don't know.
He was just caught up in the moment when he was mayor of San Francisco.
What?
Well, if the state central committee hasn't drastically changed since I was a member of it,
he is going to have some difficulty at next year's state Democratic convention.
Does he really care?
He's running for president.
I don't think it's true.
That may very well be that he's running for president.
I'm not arguing that point.
What I'm saying is the state central committee is very much diverse, inclusive,
and the counties that said representatives,
their delegation must be balanced male, female,
and approach as near as possible the diverse ethnicities of the county that they are
represented it took me a couple of years extra to get on to the Humboldt County
delegation to the state central committee because there was room for another
woman to be appointed but they couldn't appoint me to that vacancy and be
because the delegation had to be half male, half female.
So the delegates to the convention are not going to be as acquiescent to the anti-woke number.
The delegations are clearly woke.
So if he starts talking about reneging on marriage equality,
he's not going to get the support of the Democratic Central Committee
of the state of California
and it would seem that
would make it a little bit harder for him to run
for president if the
state central committee
of your party is not
endorsing your run.
And the Gavin
Newson thing was in relation to the
fact that he's out flogging a new memoir.
Young man in a hurry.
A memoir of discovery by Gavin Newsom.
Hocking a new book. Just going back to
Iran War real quick. I think
the ultimate outcome is going to be
another raising of a new generation
of terrorists.
Well, of course, that's all that this
I mean, this is just
seeding fertilized ground for that.
Yep.
We never don't learn our lesson.
In 22 years ago, 23 years ago,
we did this.
I'm looking for an article
that will speak to what
Tamara mentioned.
Can I
ask a question, Roxanne. I just want to clarify.
Sure, go ahead. Does this
say that Newsom
said he was tricked into
supporting
same-sex marriage because of
wokeness? Are you asking
is that a direct quote? No.
Or is that the sentiment?
Because I was just doing some research
and I can't find anything
that references
that. I just want to make sure
that, you know, in the
cause of wanting to
be accurate here.
I want to make sure that
that's accurate.
It is.
I mean, he talks about, in the
interview, and
it was on CNN, it was Monday,
a CNN town hall,
and
let me see, I don't know how long,
no, this is way too long.
The brilliant podcaster,
Jen Welch,
just
tore him a new one.
Because also, in that town hall, he said, from a tactical perspective, from the prism of purely politics, there's no doubt that the Democratic Party needs to be, dare I say, more culturally normal.
If you look for Gavin, okay, I'll do this with you.
I hate it when we have dead air and stuff while we search for stuff, but here we are.
Gavin Newsom
C&N Town Hall
Yeah I mean
Michelle he's been throwing trans people under the bus
for a year or more now
Remember his first
His first podcast was with none other than the
now dead Charles James Kirk
In which he agreed with Kirk
that trans girls playing in girls' sports was a travesty.
Let me see if this is it.
No, that was four months ago.
This was just in the last two weeks.
It's findable.
And he does talk about being caught up in the moment where gay marriage was concerned when he was mayor of San Francisco.
I mean
That's basically disqualifying
to run for president
Well but he'll try to talk his way around it
And frankly
Looking for anything relating to Gavin Newsom
Is difficult on a search
Because he really does
He floods the zone
In his back and forth
Insult games
With Niro
But with time running out, I've got some really great news.
This is fantastic.
Roxanne, let's get that miracle done with a tip.
Warm up. It's already getting hot here.
Summer will be brutal.
Signed Gino.
And so, yeah, with a tip indeed.
So Charlene's challenge is met.
And that means we are caught up to every,
everything but today.
So come Monday,
the funding goal will only be
$600.000. Charlene,
Auntie Kat,
everyone who's jumped in on this
monumental
opportunity,
thank you. Thank you, thank you,
thank you.
Or dare you say a miracle?
It is a miracle, and
one of the longest
rom-alama ding-dongs of all time.
But on the way out the door,
Okay, Matt says, the San Francisco examiner says Newsom never said that.
Based on available records and interviews, Gavin Newsom has never said he was tricked into supporting same-sex marriage.
In fact, he's consistently maintained the opposite that he knowingly took a significant political risk to support marriage equality early in his career, Mayor of San Francisco.
Proactive decision in 2004.
Then Mayor Newsom ordered the city clerk to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, defying both state law and war.
from allies because he believed it was the right moral decision.
No regrets in a 2014 interview when asked if he would do things differently knowing the political risk,
Newsom stated, I have no regrets, zero.
Political catalyst, although many criticized his move at the time, including members of his own party,
who feared it was too radical.
Newsom described it as a necessary stand against discrimination,
even stating he was willing to sacrifice his career over the belief.
True motivations, Newsom often recounted that his decision was
sparked by a desire to act after hearing politicians and others attacking the homosexual agenda
following a 2004 state of the union address.
Now, that would have been dim leader.
The claim that he was tricked appears to be misinformation or a distortion of the intense political pressure he faced from fellow Democrats and advisors at the time,
which he frequently discussed but always overcame.
The story stems from that.
CNN Town Hall, where he told, among other things, he told, he said that Democrats need to be more normal.
And that quote is available.
Damn it, why did I, why did I, why did I, why did I X out of this?
I had the story up and I figured that, no, I guess I, well, it's in that CNN Interference.
you. And no, he does not say he was tricked by
wokeness per se. Tamara
was paraphrasing, but he did say some
really gross things about
the origins
about
gay marriage.
Tamara says,
still looking, but listening,
Let's see here
Well he was just interviewed by Pacman
And Pacman didn't bring up anything like that
So if Newsom recently said something along those lines of like
I woke this blah blah blah
Then Beckman did a shitty job of interviewing
Well there's an element of wanting to
Be accommodating
Remember access is
the coin of the realm in things like this.
Yes.
Yeah, this article goes back to his debut episode of his podcast when he agreed with Charlie Kirk.
It was deeply unfair for trans girls in high school to participate in girls sports.
And he doubled down on that in the CNN Town Hall that I'm trying to find.
Tamara, I would suggest looking at C.N.
N.com, but the thing is, when you hit, when you search, when you search Gavin Newsom, you're going to get a million hits.
And that makes it, that makes it difficult.
Back to a previous topic, Clarence writes, Foolish Fetterman, I follow local black media in Philadelphia every morning.
Big John has lost support from Black Pennsylvania. He campaigned in Philly, Pittsburgh,
Erie in Harrisburg, where he did a dog and pony show that won the black vote, which took him over the top.
That will not happen in 2028.
The shit coming out of his mouth is crazy, but the thing that sealed his fate is the handshake with Trump at the State of the Union speech.
Black folks are wondering what happened to this guy.
And Clarence, the obvious answer that what happened to this guy was the stroke.
And I do want to close on what was a little bit ago, some breaking news.
Hold on a second, Robin.
Okay.
Daryl in Houston just joined us.
Oh, hi, Darrell.
Hello.
Great to have you with us.
Hey, I've just figured out how to join, sorry.
That's okay.
I'm still not worth a Tinker's Dam at Discord, but I managed to get into the group.
Well, this is the only social media I have, and I'm kind of illiterate.
But anyway, I just wanted to add your story earlier.
makes me so fucking angry.
And if the Dems ever have the power,
they should impeach those six Nazis on the Supreme Court
faster than you can drop an egg off fence.
You get no argument from me,
because I think all six of them at one point in time or another
perjured themselves during their confirmation hearings, Daryl.
Absolutely.
All the way back to John Roberts saying he would only call balls and strikes,
hence the nickname.
Absolutely did.
It's, yeah.
But I'm glad to have you here, and I hope you'll pop by other times.
And, you know, you can jump in this way and engaging conversation during the rest of the week, too, if you want.
Yeah, I'll try to.
It's a little difficult because I listen live and I'm at work until 6 here in Central and driving home in a crowded freeway from 6 to 7.
Oh, God.
You know, you mentioned driving in Houston.
and there's one of my favorite movies is one called Local Hero.
And it literally opens, it literally opens with the protagonist in his Porsche,
listening to the traffic reports, driving in Houston traffic, and it looks terrifying.
It's horrible.
And through the galleries, one of the worst areas in the whole country.
And I thought Atlanta was bad.
Atlanta.
I was about saying.
I thought, Atlanta.
I thought Atlanta was bad, but no, I've heard, yeah.
Houston's hot mess, too.
Yeah, Christopher.
Hey, can you jump in?
I wanted to get your take on the Jerome Powell squash, squash whirling.
Well, that was what, that was that clip where Winebox Janine was throwing a fit,
saying that the judge got in front of the door and stuff.
What the judge did was shut down a subpoena, quashed a subpoena.
that was for nothing more than purely political purposes and purposes of harassment.
It's what a judge is supposed to do.
And, you know, this entire Fox News cabinet thinks that they're just performing a...
It's all just another show on Fox.
Then she's an imbecile.
And so, Janine.
Mm-hmm.
I like that.
Gin-soaked Janine.
Well, thanks for that.
Oh.
No problem.
But I did want...
Okay, trigger warning, content warning.
Bad Trump voice coming.
This was within the last hour.
For immediate release.
Statement from President Donald J. Trump.
You know how...
Okay, I'll just say...
You know how a few days ago the mental defective in the horror...
I mean, White House was declaring that the war is very complete.
Apparently another spirokete had something else to say.
Moments ago, at my direction, the United States Central Command executed one of the most powerful bombing raids in the history of the Middle East
and totally obliterated every military target in Iran's crown jewel, Karg Island.
Our weapons are the most powerful and sophisticated that the world is ever known, but for reasons of decency,
I have chosen not to wipe out the oil infrastructure on the island.
I have chosen out of decency.
Bullshit, he wants the oil.
However, should Iran or anyone else do anything to interfere with the free and safe passage of ships through the Straits of Hormuz,
I will immediately reconsider this decision?
during my first term and currently
I rebuilt our military
into the most lethal, powerful,
and effective force by far
anywhere in the world.
Everything has to be about the baby.
Iran has no ability
to defend anything that we want to attack.
There is nothing they can do about it.
Iran will never have a nuclear weapon,
nor will it have the ability to threaten
the United States of America, which they haven't.
The Middle East, or for that matter,
the world, Iran's military
and all others involved with this terror
regime would be wise to lay down their arms and save what's left of their country, which isn't
much. In other words, he's confessing to war crimes. Thank you for your attention to this matter,
President Donald J. Trump. Who taught him that? Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
Who taught him that? Um, his, his daddy. His daddy. Really? Yeah, but he wasn't doing that before.
this is a relatively new thing maybe in the past maybe well but but the thing you got to understand with a declining mind
and remember dude's been on a crank or something like it for most of his life his adult life
yes that's true yeah as drug-eddle dementia sets in well
what you'll see is a a diminution
of the ability of short-term memory,
whereas long-term memory remains clear as a bell.
A great example of that and a sad example of that
is the late great Glenn Campbell,
quite possibly the greatest guitar player of the 20th century.
He descended into Alzheimer's.
Didn't even know who he was most of the time.
but when his family put a guitar in his hands,
he could still tear it up.
Nitwit Nero can still remember
things his daddy said.
You know, he was talking about his daddy, what,
in the state of the union?
My father, who was born a long time ago,
he wouldn't like for me to say that, but he was.
Remember that?
I mean, he's incoherent as hell.
Right.
and a rom-alama ding-dong for tom and sunny san raphael
god sent us trump because he ran out of locusts
well what do i say at the end of every program
oh that's really good yeah that is avoid them like the plague
because they are
and tamera is still out there looking for the
uh
direct reference
uh here's a paragraph
uh CNN interview airing February 20
23rd, 2026, so you can look at that.
He also made similar remarks at the New York Times Deal Book Summit in New York in December 2025.
In the CNN interview, Newsom and Democrats, Newsom said Democrats, need to spend less time on pronouns and identity politics, and instead focus more on tabletop issues like the cost of living.
He argued that from a tactical perspective, the party needs to be, quote, more culturally normal,
In its politics, that really set a lot of people off asking, what's normal mean?
Normal's only a setting on a dryer or a town in Illinois.
Newsom has previously been an outspoken advocate for LGBTQ Plus rights,
famously issuing same-sex marriage licenses as mayor of San Francisco in 2004.
However, he now believes the party risks losing a lot of people if it continues to emphasize identity politics over economic
concerns. But I saw the quote, and it was from the February 22nd town hall meeting, or February 23rd.
I'll try to go and find it over the weekend. I don't know. He didn't say he was tricked into it, but he said that he was, I'm trying to, I'm trying so hard to remember. He said he was something like caught up in the moment or overwhelmed by the
Yeah.
I found an article in the Los Angeles Times, which I posted into the chat on his
discussion, present discussion, about what occurred in 2004.
So you can read through that.
In the CNN interview, this is one poll quote.
Here I was way out front on marriage equality, so I understand this from the receiving end of this
and on the front end of this leading the pack.
So I think there has to be some consideration of that,
but I think that if you can hold the line on competitive sports, again, sports,
there's some nuance in the larger conversation,
but competitive metal sports, if we can't find that nuance,
I think we're going to lose a lot of people.
That's about trans people.
I wish I hadn't.
God, where's the history?
Oh, well.
I honestly think that Gavin Newsom does in a sense have it right.
just hasn't worded it correctly.
And that is, the Democratic Party needs to focus on the real issues of the day and not the
manufactured talking points of the Republicans and the Maga crowd.
It is much more important to discuss affordability and tax structure of the rich getting away
with everything and the transfer of wealth from the workers to the one percenters.
And those are the issues we should be talking about.
This whole rifting off to arguments about same-sex or voter fraud or non-citizens voting,
and that kind of crap are all diversionary from the issues we need to talk about.
And bring up FDR that brought us out of the Depression.
was we did not get brought out of the Depression until FDR provided a job for anybody who wanted to work
with the CCCC and the Works Progress Administration, until we rebuild our infrastructure,
and until we corrected the taxing structure.
Those are the issues that every American is dealing with right now.
The price is being jacked up on the day of the indexed up on the day of the indexing.
invasion when it takes weeks for that oil coming out of the straits of the most, you get to a refinery anywhere.
They've jacked up the price on oil that came through and was cheap when they got it, but they're billing you now in anticipation of higher priced oil in the future.
Once they get people accustomed to paying the higher price for gas, they're never going to lower the price.
lower the price because the rich have ways of siphoning that money out of your pocket
and putting it into their pocket. Those are the kinds of talks that the Democrats need to be
doing. Well, I get a little worry, Roger, when I hear people calling basic civil rights
identity politics. Because we've seen... In this article that I posted when you, if you get a chance to read it
after you get off the air.
He talks about, of course we needed to provide same-sex marriages because it was a civil
rights argument.
How can we be talking about civil rights or blacks or civil rights for Native Americans?
And this is a civil rights issue.
It's not a gay issue.
It's a civil rights issue.
And if we're going to be true to our Constitution that says all people are created equal,
or whatever document that was, we need all people created equal.
And that's just, that's who the United States is.
Try and advocate for making one group of people less equal than another group of people
is a smokescreen bullshit argument.
I'm not saying, what I'm saying, what I'm saying here is,
if we do not treat everybody in this country the same,
In other words, any two people enter into a contract of marriage, they get back benefits
from that marriage, they have community property, you can't testify against your partner
or don't have to testify against your partner in a court of law, and you're responsible
for each other.
And that goes to everybody.
When the Republicans are pulling off and saying we can't have a marriage or whatever else,
the LBG, the U plus community, can't get a passport.
Those are civil rights issues designed to divide us as a society.
And we need to come together as a society on the issues that affect everybody.
And Donald Trump is a master, and the MAGAs are masters at growing up something that can create division.
and the Democrats need to say,
screw that division bullshit,
we need to have equality.
And if you don't like the equality
for the black man living down the street,
and if you don't think they should be able to buy your house next door,
that is wrong.
If the gay couple down the street...
Okay, hang on. Time out.
I found it.
It is in his discussion with Dana Bauer.
This is an article from, sorry, scrolling,
from LGBTQ Nation, where they write,
and it would help if I just had the audio, but I do not.
LGBTQ Nation writes,
Just last month, Newsom told CNN's Dana Bash that Democrats will continue to struggle
unless they become more culturally normal,
which appeared to be a euphemism for ignoring LGBTQ plus people's needs.
During the interview, Newsom reaffirmed his vacillating stances on trans and queer issues.
He touted his ahead of his time fight for marriage equality as mayor of San Francisco,
saying it was the right thing to do,
but also naming it as one of the cultural issues he, quote,
fell prey to and said, quote,
I understand the critique that other Democrats,
had of him at the time.
He went on and said,
from the prism of purely politics,
there's no doubt that the Democratic Party
needs to be, dare I say,
more culturally normal.
Every time I read normal,
I don't hear straight, I hear white.
I believe that less prone
to spending disproportionate amounts
of time on pronouns,
identity politics,
more focused on tabletop issues,
things that really matter,
the stacking of stress in terms of the electricity bills and child care costs and health care and obviously housing costs
and how easily we get trapped in that, how I've fallen prey to that.
I mean, here I was, way out in front on marriage equality.
So I'm almost certain that that is where Tamara's critique comes from.
and it's not terribly encouraging because, you know, he says electricity bills and child care costs,
queer people have that, trans people have that.
Health care, trans people have that.
We talked about the Fourth Circuit here.
Housing costs?
Yeah.
And how easily we get trapped in that?
how I've fallen prey to that.
I mean, here I was way out front on marriage equality.
We need to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time, Roxanne.
Yeah.
And Tamara said thank you.
That's it.
So, there we are.
Y'all, it's a miracle of an evening.
And a miraculous close to a week.
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This is just astonishing.
We'll be at $600 on Monday, and that's just normal.
Wait, there's that word again.
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