Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, 27 July 2026, Moran Monday

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:48 oh my God I left out last night after the program ran across the river and down to the settlements for supplies because an unacceptable event well an unacceptable circumstance had transpired
Starting point is 00:03:04 that is to wit the golden one was out of Beggin strips and I can't stand that I just can't so away I went and loaded up on Beggin strips
Starting point is 00:03:22 and then as I came back out of Wally World it became obvious that the shit was about to hit the fan And it did as I was coming home. I mean, it was a light show. Lightning like strobe lights. It was, I mean,
Starting point is 00:03:46 visibility was like 10 feet in front of the car on a two-lane road on the edge of a 1,600-foot gorge. Yeah, it was one of those kiss-the-earth moments when I got back in the driveway. and it's pretty much been that way ever since and so that's the program note if the program suddenly goes away it's not me throwing a temper tantrum
Starting point is 00:04:18 or a fitted peak it's the power going out or the internet because I mean these have been some epic electrical storms don't see a lot of sky to ground lightning lately, but oh my good, it was all over the place yesterday
Starting point is 00:04:40 evening and has continued off and on through the day. So again, if the program disappears, bear with me, it takes the system a minute to reboot and then we'll be back, I hope. Really hope. I'm trying to think, we're coming up on the anniversary of the 2000. 12 Direcho here that plunged us into miserable conditions. I think on the 1st of July 2012, the program was off the air for about two weeks because of no electricity. But that's just the program note. Further program note for next Friday on the front porch, which will be the 4th of July. I don't anticipate being on air
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'll be up in Parkersburg with Victoria and I think there's a family event to attend I'm going to try to take some probably going to make the salmon dip and a couple of racks at ribs just to be a grateful guest
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Starting point is 00:06:48 Good, good job, good. And if something like that is available up there, we may participate too. Who knows? and every program here at the horn begins with gratitude and this program is no different so thanks go out to our 27th day of the month
Starting point is 00:07:13 donors and subscribers via PayPal thanks so much well we don't have any subscribers today so thanks just the same and the fundraising goal is basically 1,500 bucks. That means that
Starting point is 00:07:39 we are unfunded from last Tuesday through Monday. Maybe that's reachable. I don't know. We hit a big lick last night and thanks so much to those who made that possible and thank you in particular to Charlene
Starting point is 00:07:53 and Rugg's Island for making the challenge. And then a little something just to get us started. A call out of Secretary Hot Mama. Things are devolving with our friends to the north. It's kind of a beautiful moment. Charlie Angus, with a message to Christy Gnome, enjoy. Good morning. Bonjour, Waché. I'd like to begin by expressing my deep concern over the news of the death of Johnny Noviolo found dead in ICE custody,
Starting point is 00:09:08 a man who had moved to the United States from Canada when he was 11 years old, who apparently had a drug conviction that was covered off by community service and time off for good behavior, that ICE was aware of his medical conditions, and yet he was found dead in their custody. This morning, I demand for the Canada can open an inquiry inquire an independent on the death of Johnny Novi-Ello. It's necessary for the Canada to defund our values, our democracy, our frontier, and to protect our
Starting point is 00:09:46 citizens who are kidnapped by the predators and the gangsters American. Earlier this week, Homeland Security Director Christy Noem held a forum in Michigan on the so-called threat of the northern border. The northern border, that's us, Canada. She presented this lurid presentation of rape and murder and El Salvadorian gangs coming over the Canadian border to terrorize the American people. She was joined by Michigan Representative John James, who said that Michigan is now at the epicenter. of the northern border crisis. And one of her officials reassured the American people
Starting point is 00:10:28 that they were here to, quote, kick some ass. So whose ass are you going to kick? Ever since Donald Trump declared that Canada was a threat to national security last February, the rhetoric against our nation has been escalating. FBI director Cash Patel claims that Canada is a source for all kinds of international cabals of Russian, Iranian, Chinese gangs who were heading over the border.
Starting point is 00:10:55 He claims that of the 300 terrorists that he says he caught, 85% came from Canada. But were they wearing tukes and lumberjack jackets? Then there's Ted Cruz who says that Canada could be a staging ground for Hamas terrorism. Why? Because we accepted a very small percentage of people fleeing the genocide in Gaza. The likes of Patel and Noem are not there to present. and facts, or to meet with Canadian officials about securing the border for both sides.
Starting point is 00:11:29 This is about building a narrative. This is how MAGA operates. And we've seen this right-wing playbook used so many times. This is not about gaslighting. It's about creating a convenient enemy, an existential threat that must be dealt with. What is it going to be next? Are they going to claim that they found weapons of mass destruction in a garage in Charlottetown or Oakville? you know South Park the movie was funny
Starting point is 00:11:54 but South Park as a political administration is a dismal thing to witness and this is all happening when Donald Trump threatens us they're either going to pay billions in new tariffs or what give up our sovereignty, give up our nation well that's not going to happen so I'm here this morning to actually reach out to Christy Knoam and Cash Patel
Starting point is 00:12:18 and Ted Cruz and mega ambassador Pete Hoekstra and any Fox host who wants to weigh in on the Canadian border to reassure them. Canada is very concerned about the border as well. In fact, we're so concerned that we refuse to travel across it.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And your increasing rhetoric against this is making us more determined not to spend a dime in any of your towns, your states, or your country. So let's talk about the state of the Canadian boycott right now. We see that wine sales from the United States to Canada,
Starting point is 00:12:55 your number one market America is down 93%. That we've seen a $12.3 billion loss in American tourism. So when Representative James says the epicenter of the threat is Canada, I think he should go talk to some of his tourism operators who are seeing massive losses from Canada. Our refusal to cross the border isn't about fear. It is because we will not stoop to give money to a country that is no longer under the rule of law where kidnapping people off the streets has become normalized. If you look at the biggest hits that are being faced by the United States in terms of Canadian refusal to spend dollars, number one is Florida.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah, the Florida is talking about building an alligator, Alcatraz, a Florida where states officials threaten to shoot people graveyard dead if they protest. That might sound great for MAGA, but Canadians find that language intolerable and inexcusable. And so, Mr. Ron DeSantis, no, we're not going to spend money in your state. I want to close by speaking to the American representatives who've been coming to Canada on a charm offensive. To get us to come back. Senator Kevin Kramer of North Dakota who said to Canadians, give us another chance. Really, Senator? I haven't heard you say anything.
Starting point is 00:14:17 people like Christy Noem or Cash Patel, when are you going to start speaking out to them? Or Senator Tim Kane, who came to Ottawa and said, Canada, we love you. Well, if you loved us, you'd make sure that our citizens didn't have to worry that their phones are going to be seized at the border, and whether or not there's pictures making fun of Donald Trump, and whether or not they're going to be arrested and deported. Because if you're not willing to love us for the fact that we believe in the rule of law, then you don't love us. or Governor Mora Healy, who came to meet our premiers and said, Canada is Massachusetts number one trading partner. Yes, we are.
Starting point is 00:14:53 But we're not going back. We're to all the towns that are renaming their streets after Canadian place names in Canada. Thanks, but no thanks. If you loved us, you would love us for our values. What we're seeing right now is a nation that doesn't believe in equity and inclusion or under the rule of law. Those are our values. That's why our Prime Minister, Carney,
Starting point is 00:15:14 is over in Europe talking about our new future as being part of Europe and no longer part of the United States. So finally, Ms. Nome, if you were hoping to make sure a big splash of threatening us and warning about the crisis of the northern border, you've done a damn good job of reminding us why we're not going back to your country. Canadians are not going to give a dime to a nation that threatens us, that undermines us, and that lives. lies about the threats that we supposedly pose. Because the one thing that we do threaten the Americans with is our decency, our inclusion, and our belief in the rule of law.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So we have many American friends. We have many American relatives. We have many American communities that we love and would love to visit again. But we are not going there as long as you are not under the rule of law. And as for Canada, we will remain true, north, strong, and free. damn good and I hope he's speaking
Starting point is 00:16:28 I mean he's part of the NDP in Canada or it was recently he's retired but I hope other Canadians are on board with him thank you for the clip Routts and in honor of Charlie Angus's Declaration of Freedom
Starting point is 00:16:51 Declaration of Independence Routts says put a $25 challenge on the table, and that would get us down to $14.50 if somebody kicks in $25. So thank you, Routes. Thank you so much as we run toward trying to close out June fully funded. Thank you, Ralph, thank you indeed. And there's so much to go into. There's a lot of Supreme Court news.
Starting point is 00:17:25 uh... Lee uh... image found on social media I hate when you offer someone a sincere compliment on their mustache and suddenly she's not your friend anymore and her name is Usha okay Lee
Starting point is 00:17:48 signed Lee clean shaven in New York City but we've got some Supreme Court news to go into hopefully we'll discuss that in the old holler tree here later about 40 minutes from now We'll go over the river and through the woods to the old holler tree. We sublet from the Keebler elves.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And that is now located on Discord. Last Friday, we had a problem with one of my cable gizmos. So we'll have to see if we wind up having to use Bluetooth again. I don't know. Gremlins. Oh, from... Let's see here. Thank you, Henry.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Henry just jumped right out there and met Ralph's challenge. Thank you so much, Henry. So we're down to 1450. Thank you, Ralph, and thank you, Henry, for getting us started. Checking in with the email as to Charlie Angus, Dave in the Blind, said, Canadian-born terrorist. Did he mention the one Canadian-born terrorist that's still terrorizing the United States? Yeah, Ted Cruz, the Cubanadian?
Starting point is 00:19:08 This is why I don't trust anybody. born in 1970. We've been over that. And from Cynthia, food porn to get us started on this Friday, I'm smoking a steelhead trout right now, a big fillet cut in half. The bigger half is still smoking. The smaller half is done. I tasted a sample.
Starting point is 00:19:30 It was wonderful. Smoked to 145 degrees. It's flaking, but moist, just like I love it. Second half is almost ready to come out now, too. Yum. I know. Cynthia said, I need to do. find something like that to give me some pleasure
Starting point is 00:19:45 amid the SCOTUS Trump continuing shit show. And what a shit show it is. And we will get after it all, or at least try to get after it all, in fairly short order. A reminder
Starting point is 00:20:02 of the, because we've got two days left for it, and Cynthia's June challenge has been quite a struggle. And here's that quote, one more time uh...
Starting point is 00:20:30 the major problem one of the major problems for there are several with governing people is that of who you get to do it or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them to summarize it's a well-known and much lamented fact that those people who most want to rule people are if so facto those least suited to do it to summarize the summary anyone who is
Starting point is 00:20:55 capable of getting themselves made president should on no account be allowed to do the job. Now, Cynthia has been dropping hints for damn near a couple of weeks now, and still trying to get to 15 folks. We are at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. We need 7 more. Author and work, please. Fingers crossed. and like Cynthia's been saying
Starting point is 00:21:32 you're going to be so you know when the big reveal comes on July the 1st now as for getting into things this is okay this is just a little amuse bouch I wish this was parody
Starting point is 00:21:56 it isn't you know last night we talked about the fact that Donald Trump is a sewer he sues people for living apparently not so big is he running the free world that he can't sue the boss? No, really.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He's suing Bruce Springsteen for defamation. And before I get too deep in the weeds, yes, it did, Steve. Thank you. Not to get too deep in the weeds, but we know for a fact that among all the other things that Fappy Thomas once brought before the court, anything he can use to overturn, say, Obergefell or Lawrence or Bostock or anything except Loving v. Virginia dealing with substantive due process. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:02 He's all game for that, but he also wants to rewrite the laws surrounding defamation, and he desperately wants to overturn New York Times v. Sullivan and he wants to overturn Falwell v. Hustler. And I mentioned that because I was trying to figure out what kind of low-life pettifogger working for nitwit Nero would actually file this suit and sign it as a good faith certification that the suit was not for purposes of harassment or other improper motives
Starting point is 00:23:45 because that's what Rule 11 of the Rules of Civil Procedure dictates that an attorney's signature constitutes because you can't be any more of a public figure than Nitwit Niro is and this case, you know, Bruce is not some pissant at ABC News
Starting point is 00:24:07 and he's got the money to fight this because nitwit Niro is claiming that he was defamed. by Springsteen when Springsteen was going off on him in concert and among other things called him a con man and a representative of the America's worst in the most malicious and damaging statements about me in race and interviews he filed it in federal court in New Jersey truth is of course an absolute defense still to this day
Starting point is 00:25:02 Because among other things, the quote was on stage, a con man who tried to hijack democracy and sell it back to us at a profit, that he represents the very worst of America's past dressed up as its future. And in the bad faith pleadings, the statements were knowingly false and intended to harm Mr. Trump's reputation and influence. I'm beginning to wonder if this is real. it's from the economic times and
Starting point is 00:25:58 anybody on the uh... uh... horn ad hoc research committee want to check out whether he really did no i mean this looks legit but here's what kind of grabbed me knowingly false intended to harm mister trump's reputation and influence during a period when trump is actively campaigning that's not a quote actively campaigning for a twenty twenty eight re-elections
Starting point is 00:26:29 The suit papers claim he has been done irreparable damage. And a quote from the Economic Times story, nitwit Nero undeterred. Springsteen has been lying about me for years. Enough is enough. You can't just call someone a criminal without evidence and expect no consequences. This is America, not a rock concert.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I'm a little suspicious. because that's too easy. You can't just call someone a criminal without evidence. Okay, there it is. Thank you, Micah. Thank you, Jeremy. There was no such lawsuit. I knew it was too easy when I got to the,
Starting point is 00:27:45 you can't just call someone a criminal without evidence because, well, courts, as a function of their purpose, courts can take notice. of the actions of other courts so proving that he was a criminal would be a slam dunk okay so that's disinformation
Starting point is 00:28:12 misinformation misinformation but it would be yeah yeah there's no lawsuit and the article was AI slop I hate AI a little bit more
Starting point is 00:28:44 with every passing day and that was yeah from Cynthia, if I had a brain the size of a planet, I'd be colossally depressed that people can't get this quote. I'm flummoxed. What do I have to do? Go park cars at that restaurant?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Yep. So even he's not, so, yeah, and even nitwit, Niro's law. I mean, I don't even think Alina, Habana, Habna, Habna, Havana, Havana, Havana, a Havanaughana, would sign off on that. Okay. Let's go to something a little bit better. I had a note earlier today from Matt in San Francisco. And I just sat and Riley chuckled to myself when I read it.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Holy shit. That's the subject line. Hey, lady. Hey, Matt. Is it just me or is this press conference just fucking bonkers? It wasn't just you. I love San Francisco. I love the Bay Area region.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I love the idea of America. I'm now back to trying to figure out just. just exactly when to leave and exactly where to go. I mean, look, I got another 20 or so years left on this mortal coil. Anything would be all... Anything more would be all bonus. I don't want to spend those years mourning for an idea for a country that never really existed, but the fighter in me says, fuck these people, meet me at the barricades.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Shit, it's only 10 a.m., and I'm already exhausted. I know. Well, you know where to be on July the 4th, Matt. But make no mistake, it was bonkers. Oh, what a sweet photo. David in South Carolina sent this along. Meanwhile, in D.C., early this morning on 16th Street, a doe and her two little fawns still in spots,
Starting point is 00:31:20 standing in an overgrown yard at, I guess, 6025, 16th Street. And a deer will browse anything just to see if it's taste. But that's beautiful. I saw a dough with her baby just the other night. Mama was crossing in front of me. And then I looked off to the left and the little fawn and spots was there in the culvert. She was making sure it was all clear. Mama was. A.I. Slob.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Not the deer. The Springsteen story. He was truly cray-cray today. Among other things, he said that, Democrats want to kill Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Everything he says, everything a maggot says is either confession or projection. The only people trying to take Medicaid away from Medicare away from people are the fucking maggots in Congress. And he was back to not remembering the multiple meanings of asylum, claiming that
Starting point is 00:32:58 Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro emptied out Venezuela's insane asylums and sent crazy people to the United States all with the loving acceptance of Joe Biden. It's almost the way with fascism. Your enemy is at one and the same time too weak to be able to govern
Starting point is 00:33:31 and too strong to be able to be withstood. Yeah. Birthright citizenship is being used to keep dangerous criminals in the United States. He then went after Jerome
Starting point is 00:33:51 Powell saying that he has Trump derangement syndromes because he won't lower interest rates for daddy Jerome Powell says His own guy, you know, Jerome Powell, he picked Jerome Powell.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Only the best people. Well, Jerome Powell says we've got low unemployment and interest rates are falling, so we don't need to drop interest rates again. He probably has Trump derangement syndrome. The guy doesn't want to lower the rates. Because if he lowers the rates,
Starting point is 00:34:36 Donnie can steal more money. and now damning with faint praise John what the fuck Fetterman is his favorite Senate Democrat and he says I hope John will vote yes
Starting point is 00:34:59 on the big beautiful bill but even a dipshit like Fetterman has said he opposes the Medicaid cuts and because his ever-decaiding brain is like a dog returning ever to its vomit. He went back to claiming that the 2020 election was stolen from him.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's almost like the 25th Amendment doesn't exist. But then again, it's almost like the 14th Amendment doesn't exist either. The birthright citizenship opinion came out today, and while they didn't outright rewrite the 14th Amendment, they took it out and bloodied it up real. good behind the barn with an axe handle. Justice Handmaid wrote the opinion, the six-three opinion, our most puissant, dread sovereign, supreme Catholic majesties, lording it over the three sane people on the court. And it's complicated, but as a result of the decision, the maggots can now,
Starting point is 00:36:43 on their own narrow injunctions challenging an executive order such that they apply only to groups or individuals who sue but the changes to birthright citizenship go forward for everybody else so if you're not suing and you were born here to immigrant parents
Starting point is 00:37:15 he can just say you're not a citizen now the supreme court are lazy so they use that fig leaf tactic that they so often do saying well we're not we're not ruling on the merits of the constitutionality of the executive order we're just dealing with the scope of the injunctions well yeah hon but you were ruling on the constitutionality because you just said that people who aren't suing can have their citizenship stripped from them by the declaration of a madman justice handmade said well universal injunctions which were just fine when matthew casmeric was issuing them about say mithopristone well um Universal injunctions likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Federal courts do not exercise general oversight of the executive branch. They resolve cases and controversies consistent with the authority Congress has given them. When a court concludes that the executive branch has acted unlawfully, the answer is not for the court to exceed its power too. And FAPE was happy. God, was it? Four days in a row with the unintentional rhymes? This is like an episode of Bewitched,
Starting point is 00:39:10 where Samantha couldn't help rhyming. Now, FAPPI issued his own concurrent. The court today puts an end to the increasingly common practice of federal courts issuing universal injunctions. I wonder if that's going to apply the next time Matthew Casmeric wants to do one, do you think? Because I don't. Now over on the dissenting side, Justice Sotomayor used her privilege to read her dissent from the bench,
Starting point is 00:39:56 and then Justice Jackson dissented separately herself. Well, as I have noted recently, going back last week, for instance, to Scermetti. In awful cases like this, history has a way of forgetting. the people who write the bad decisions and remembering the justices who got it right. In this case, it's Justice Sotomayor, writing for both herself and Justice Jackson and Justice Kagan. She said very plainly, children born in the United States and subject to its laws are United States citizens. That has been the legal rule since the founding, and it was the English rule well before then. Uh-oh, history and tradition.
Starting point is 00:41:10 This court once attempted to repudiate it. Oh, this had to sting the handmade. This court once attempted to repudiate it, holding in Dred Scott v. Sanford, 1857, that the children of enslaved black Americans were not citizens. To remedy that grievous error, the states passed in 1866, and Congress ratified in 1868 the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause, which enshrined birthright citizenship in the Constitution. There it has remained, accepted and respected by Congress, by the executive and by this court, until today.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It is now the president who attempts in an executive order to repudiate birthright citizenship. Every court to evaluate the order has deemed it patently unconstitutional, and for that reason has enjoined the federal government from enforcing it. undeterred the government now asks emphasis on the turd part the government couldn't resist resist the government now asks this court to grant emergency relief insisting it will suffer irreparable harm unless it can deprive at least some children born in the united states of citizenship the government does not ask for complete stays of the injunctions as it ordinarily does before this court why the answer is obvious
Starting point is 00:42:43 to get such relief the government would have to show that the order is likely constitutional an impossible task in light of the constitution's text history in this court's precedence federal law and executive branch practice so the government instead tries its hand at a different game it asks this court to hold that no matter how illegal a law or policy courts can never simply tell the executive to stop enforcing it against anyone instead of the government says it should be able to apply the citizenship order whose legality it does not defend to everyone except the plaintiffs who filed this lawsuit. The gamesmanship in this request is apparent and the government makes no attempt to hide it. Yet, shamefully, this court plays along. A majority of this court decides that
Starting point is 00:43:40 these applications, of all cases, provide the appropriate occasion to resolve the question of universal injunctions and end the centuries old practice once and for all. And it's rushed to do so, disregards basic principles of equity as well as the long history of injunctive relief granted to non-parties. She wasn't playing around. No right is safe in the new legal regime the court creates.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That's right up there with the dissent in Dobbs. From the moment of fertilization, a woman has no rights to speak of. That's turned out to be pretty fucking true, hasn't it?
Starting point is 00:44:30 No right is safe in the new legal regime the court creates. Today the threat is to birthright citizenship. Tomorrow a different administration may try to seize firearms from law-abiding citizens or prevent people of certain faiths from gathering to worship. She's
Starting point is 00:44:47 reminding them of Lady Justice's double-edged sword there. And if any of the mouth-breathing, knuckle-walking, goobers of the firearm humping variety,
Starting point is 00:45:03 happen to read this dissent. Maybe they'll notice? Yep, one of these days, we're going to be on the six-three side of this, and your guns are gone, motherfuckers. Beholding renders constitutional guarantees meaningful in name only for any individuals who are not parties to a lawsuit. Because I will not be complicit in so grave an attack on our system of law,
Starting point is 00:45:37 I dissent. You get the idea they're not real crazy about each other right now? I mean, this has to be aimed squarely at Justice Handmaid because she was making nicey with the smart ladies for a little bit. The majority ignores entirely whether the president's executive order is constitutional, instead focusing only on the question of whether federal courts have the equitable authority to issue universal injunctions. Anything, anything to keep from having to, you know, say the quiet part out loud.
Starting point is 00:46:44 The order's patent unlawfulness reveals the gravity of the majority's error and underscores why equity supports universe. Not equity. Yes, equity. You can't get rid of the equity part of, you know, a thousand years of legal tradition. Yes, equity, exactly. The same equity that's in diversity, equity, and inclusion. Equity supports universal injunctions as appropriate remedies in this kind of case, as every conceivable source of law confirms,
Starting point is 00:47:16 birthright citizenship is the law of the land, and she then went about the business of completely deconstructing the pathetic attempt at fundament kissing that Amy COVID-Barratt engaged in, as well as her other five colleagues. Sotomayor goes over every court that has enjoined this and points out the correctness of their reasoning. It must, is it Supreme Court courtesy that they all sit there while the opinions are read?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Because I'm pretty sure that the handmade didn't like it worth a damn. But then there's the dissent from Justice Jackson. And while Justice Sotomayor appealed the case, like a grape, Justice Jackson took a different tack. I agree with every word of Justice Sotomayor's dissent. I write separately to emphasize a key conceptual point. The court's decision to permit the executive to violate the Constitution with respect to anyone who has not yet sued is an existential threat to the rule of law.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, it reminds me, I don't think a little boron Trump is a party to any lawsuits, is he? he's an anchor baby seems like he might be amenable to a challenge of his citizenship justice jackson continued it is important to recognize that the executive's bid to vanquish so-called universal injunctions is at bottom a request for this court's permission to engage in unlawful behavior when the government says do not allow the lower courts to enjoin executive action universally as a remedy for unconstitutional conduct what it's actually saying is that the executive wants to continue doing something that a court has determined violates the Constitution, please allow this.
Starting point is 00:50:00 That is some solicitation. With its ruling today, the majority largely grants the government's wish, but in my view, if this country is going to persist as a nation of laws and not men, the judiciary has no choice but to deny it. And then it was, well, it was constitutional law classroom time. What it means to have a system of government that is bounded by law is that everyone is constrained by the law, no exceptions. and for that to actually happen, courts must have the power to order everyone, including the executive, to follow the law, full stop.
Starting point is 00:50:43 To conclude otherwise is to endorse the creation of a zone of lawlessness within which the executive has the prerogative to take or leave the laws at wishes, and where individuals who would otherwise be entitled to the law's protection become subject to the executive's whims instead. The majority cannot deny that our Constitution was designed to split the powers of a monarch, between the governing branches to protect the people. Nor is it debatable that the role of the judiciary in our constitutional scheme is to ensure fidelity to law. But these core values are strangely absent from today's decision. Focusing on an inapt comparison, ouch, to impotent English tribunals double-ouch, the majority ignores the judiciary's foundational duty to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States.
Starting point is 00:51:32 it not only diverges from first principles it's also profoundly dangerous since it gives the executive the go-ahead to sometimes wield the kind of unchecked arbitrary power the founders crafted our constitution to eradicate at least justice jackson can write these things because those other our six most puissant dread sovereign supreme catholic majesties well they did a number last summer too on the way out the door giving a degree of immunity to the executive that it that could could not conceivably be justified within the original meaning of the Constitution. Oh, I think Justice Jackson was pissed. To hear the majority tell it, this suit raises a mind-nummingly technical query. Are universal injunction sufficiently analogous to the relief issued by the High Court of Chancery in England at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and the enactment of the original Judiciary Act?
Starting point is 00:52:38 To fall within the equitable authority, Congress granted federal courts. in the Judiciary Act of 1789. But that legal ease is a smokescreen. Oh, you know what another word for a smoke screen is? A petty fog. It obscures a far more basic question of enormous legal and practical significance. May a federal court in the United States of America order the executive to follow the law.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And she really did. She went on and delivered a con-law lesson to the six. fascists on the other side. As I understand the concern in this clash over the respective powers of two coordinate branches of government, the majority sees a power grab, but not by a presumably lawless executive choosing to act in a manner that flouts the plain text of the Constitution. Instead, to the majority, the power-hungry actors are, wait for it, oh my God, the snark. That's some serious legal snark, y'all.
Starting point is 00:53:53 The power-hungry actors are, wait for it, the district courts. In the majority's view, federal courts only have the power to afford the plaint of complete relief in the cases brought before them, they can do nothing more. Trying to get to the denouement. Both of these dissenting justices were pissed and did it in chapter and verse. And this is the ending. And Justice Jackson does not sound like she is sanguine as to our future under this court. So kind of add this to your list, Matt, in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Make no mistake. today's ruling allows the executive to deny people rights that the founders plainly wrote into our Constitution so long as those individuals have not found a lawyer or asked a court in a particular manner to have their rights protected. This perverse burden shifting cannot coexist with the rule of law. In essence, the court has now shoved lower court judges out of the way in cases where executive action is challenged and has gifted the executive with the prerogative of sometimes disregarding the law. As a result, the judiciary, the one institution that is solely responsible for ensuring our Republican doers as a nation of laws has put both our legal system and our system of government in grave jeopardy. The Supreme Court justices don't throw around phrases like our system of government in grave jeopardy just because there wasn't enough caramel in their caramel macchiato.
Starting point is 00:55:59 She then quotes Justice Frankfurter, The accretion of a dangerous power does not come in a day, but it does come from the generative force of unchecked disregard of the restrictions that fence in even the most disinterested assertion of authority. By needlessly granting the government's emergency application to prohibit universal injunctions, the court has cleared a path for the exact. to choose law-free action at this perilous moment for our Constitution. Right when the judiciary should be hunkering down to do all it can to preserve the law's constraints.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I have no doubt that if judges must allow the executive to act unlawfully in some circumstances, as the court concludes today, executive lawlessness will flourish, and from there, it is not difficult to predict how all this ends. eventually executive power will become completely uncontainable and our beloved constitutional republic will be no more she's doing everything in her power justice jackson is she is from a legal jurisprudential standpoint screaming from the rooftops
Starting point is 00:57:26 i i wonder if another justice in either the majority or the minority has ever said those words before executive power will be able to be able to be able to be become completely uncontainable and our beloved constitutional republic will be no more. And then this grimness, perhaps the degradation of our rule of law regime would have happened anyway. But this court's complicity in the creation of a culture of disdain for lower courts, their rulings and the laws they interpret it will surely hasten the downfall of our governing institutions enabling our collective demise. And that the things.
Starting point is 00:58:20 is she's not wrong she's not even in the same zip code or area code as wrong but those six fascists are such things such creatures of their master's
Starting point is 00:58:44 voice that they will burn it all down to see his greasy orange smile she wasn't done at the very least I lament that the majority is so caught up in the minutiae of the government's self-serving finger-pointing arguments that it misses the plot.
Starting point is 00:59:10 The majority forgets or ignores that, quote, with all its defects, delays, and inconveniences, men have discovered no technique for long-preserving free government except that the executive be under the law and that the law be made by parliamentary deliberations. Those were the words of the great justice Robert Jackson. who led the prosecution at Nuremberg. Tragically, she concludes, the majority also shuns this prescient warning. Even if such institutions may be destined to pass away, it is the duty of the court to be last, not first, to give them up.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Fuck, that's not a dissent so much as... I'm sorry about the F-bombs. That's not so much a dissent as it is an obituary. and it's not hysterical. It's cold, it's rational, it's reasonable, rational, it's reasonable, and correct. Lee in New York says what remains of the Constitution, Article 2, it lets POTUS do whatever he wants. And everybody else is free to like it. I added the last part.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Justice Jackson seems legitimately scared. I don't mean like she's afraid of the other justices personally. but she is afraid for what they are so willingly and willfully doing to the Constitution of the United States. And unfortunately, a dissent like this has a tragic way of proving correct. As Stephen New York just said, Justice Jackson's dissent, I hate to say it, but that opinion wasn't just a dissent. It was a eulogy. that's got some real real grief about it
Starting point is 01:02:10 oh and just to change gears for a minute before we go over the old holler tree enter the name of Kirsten Gillibrand to the list of people who are attacking Zoran Mamdani
Starting point is 01:02:30 this is shameful and hateful never been a big Kirsten Jillabrand fan anyway goes all the way back to when she talked about how She loved her guns, and as a New Yorker, she keeps a rifle under her bed at night. Wrong accent, I know, but the vibe was decidedly Southern. Yeah, Kirst and Jillebrand went on some show on WNC, or WYNC.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I don't know, maybe it's a typo. The Brian Lairor show, at which point she outright lied about Zora and Mom Dani. She did this, and the thing is, she is more or less associated herself with the words of the corned-pone version of George Santos, Andy Ogles, from Tennessee. She said, he won't condemn the phrase globalized the antifada. And then she juggled intifada and jihad and engaged in fearmongering on this show. She said, it doesn't matter what meaning you have in your brain. it's now how the word is received.
Starting point is 01:04:18 When you use a word like intifada to many Jewish Americans and Jewish New Yorkers, that means you're permissive for violence against Jews. Of course, it goes without saying that since she's there just engaging in shameless pandering and truthlessness,
Starting point is 01:04:42 Momdani has, of course, frequently denounced anti-Semitic violence. But that wasn't enough for Kirsten Gillibrand. She said, I would be very specific in these words. And I would say you may not use them again if you expect to represent everyone ever again because they are received as hateful and divisive. All the word intrafat means is uprising.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Just like the original meaning of jihad is an internal spiritual struggle. Apparently, the host, Lera, tried to pull her back from the brink. he said i just feel compelled to say we can find no evidence that he supported hamassar supported violent jihad as the caller was asserting i think we also clarify or he was clarifying and he never said gladable as the unafata he was asked in an interview if he would denounce the phrase well he should denounce it and that's it period and you can't celebrate it you can't value it you can't lift it up when you hear things and and she's just projecting all of her own bought and paid four opinions, courtesy of APEC,
Starting point is 01:06:08 and her own ignorant fears. When you hear things like Edifada, when you hear things like jihad, when you hear from the river to the sea, it's received as slaughter the Jews and destroy Israel, period. It's almost like she has no Muslims in her constituency whatsoever, and perhaps as far as she's concerned, she doesn't. Mehti Hassan didn't mince any words.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He said, I think she should resign for falsely smearing him as a terrorist. He's never invoked a global jihad. This is a nasty Islamophobic. racist smear from a setting damned senator. And then the inevitable happened. The senator's spokes creep leapt into the fray
Starting point is 01:07:03 to say that the senator misspoke. What? She said Pacific instead of specific? That's misspeaking. Library for library? That's miss speaking. So we can see where the smears
Starting point is 01:07:34 poor guy's a smear magnet Jesus Well technically yes Jeremy asking Aren't most of Trump's kids anchor babies Well Tithania isn't Marla was a nice girl from North Georgia I think
Starting point is 01:08:12 But Yeah the The toxic trio And Big old boron Yeah Anchor babies all Don't blame me. I didn't come up with the phrase. That's a phrase the maggots used.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And there were apparently more than a few people who were in agreement with Justice Jackson. Anna Cabrera hosted NYU Law Professor Melissa Murray, and Professor Murray was horrified to say the least. immediately met by ICE agents to deport them or detain them to be deported immediately. So they're putting themselves at risk even by raising the claim, it would seem, in terms of their own immigration status and ability to stay in this country. I want to bring NYU law professor or former clerk to Justice Sotomayor, Melissa Murray. What's your reaction, Melissa, to this ruling?
Starting point is 01:09:41 I think this is a really huge win for the Trump administration. I'm glad that we're talking about it in those terms because I think one of the of the great fears with this case was that if the court did not say anything about the substance and scope of the 14th Amendment, media would say that the court had saved birthright citizenship. The court has not saved birthright citizenship. It simply kicked that can down the line and made the legal conditions under which a future suit over birthright citizenship can actually be resolved. Leah is exactly right. This is a huge win for the Trump administration because the court has essentially knee-capped lower courts from stopping this administration when it engages in lawless and unconstitutional behavior.
Starting point is 01:10:22 And Lisa makes a really important point. This is all happening in an environment where the Trump administration is not only going after undocumented persons and deporting people without the benefit of due process, they're doing so while they are also upending the legal landscape, but making it harder for pro bono outfits to secure the health they need from law firms to bring. these suits. And now with this decision, they're essentially saying that litigants will have to file in each particular jurisdiction around the United States in order to be clear that their resolution will have legally binding effect. And that means you're just going to need a flood, an army of lawyers, at a time when that army of lawyers is not going to be forthcoming. So make no mistake about this. The court has given this administration an enormous win. They have put
Starting point is 01:11:10 one hand behind the backs of those who are trying to fight against this administration, and they have dealt a death blow to the rule of law. Let me read from the opinion written by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, quote, the bottom line, the universal injunction was conspicuously non-existent for most of our nation's history because the universal injunction lacks a historical pedigree. It falls outside the bounds of a federal court's equitable authority. So, Melissa, what do you make of that argument. So a couple of things here. This is the sort of case that you would have expected Chief Justice John Roberts to write the majority opinion for the fact that Justice Barrett is writing for the court in this case suggests that maybe she extracted some concessions from the majority
Starting point is 01:11:54 in order to be the author here in order for them to keep her vote. So maybe there are some underlying dynamics here that her authorship might suggest. But this question about the history of the nationwide injunction I think is a little misleading here. It's true that we did not necessarily have nationwide injunctions at the founding, but we also didn't have a government that was able to do the sorts of things that modern government does today, the sorts of things that a nationwide injunction might be useful for. People like Mila Suhoney at Stanford University have shown that at least since the emergence of a modern administrative state, we have had universal injunction. So this isn't a new phenomenon. This isn't something that was recently
Starting point is 01:12:33 invented. It is something that has arisen as government has expanded. And so I think this is a little disingenuous on the part of Justice Barrett who should know better. And Julia, of course, this impacts people right now who are looking at this decision. And you've done reporting within the immigrant communities. What does this mean for someone born in the U.S. to undocumented parents and for the pregnant immigrant women who are part of this lawsuit? Well, like so many guests have said, the court here, the justices did not weigh in on the merits, but they're merely kicking the can down the road.
Starting point is 01:13:07 They are staying those injunctions, of course, only and the fact that they were nationwide. They're not weighing in on the constitutionality. But in the majority opinion, Justice Barrett did say, look, this isn't to go into effect until 30 days after this opinion. So it does leave open the window that in 30 days unless there is. But she rather ignores the fact that they let the horse kick down the barn door and then set fire to the barn. This is the pernicious nature of the shadow docket. My stupid attorney general is back in front of the court now in the wake of the Scrimetti decision saying, please, please, let us throw that little girl who's never been through a male puberty and just wants to run track the one little girl in West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Please let us throw her off the team. And it's kind of not at all certain how that will work out. because the Supreme Court already slapped the state of West Virginia down once on the shadow docket. It's an emergency. And in the background of this, as Ralph's pointed out, Justice Handmaid is deeply offended by the sharpness of Justice Jackson's attack on her. Oh, it's terrible. Oh, a little factoid.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Thanks for serving as the horn ad hoc melanoma and boron. research department, David in South Carolina, Stan. Anchor baby. Melanoma was not a U.S. citizen when her child baron was born on March the 20th, 2006. She officially became a U.S. citizen on July 28, 2006, several months later.
Starting point is 01:15:14 So, yeah, boron's deportable. Back to Slovenia. Better fire up the duo lingo, doodley. but it yeah Justice Handmaid got downright bitchy
Starting point is 01:15:38 because she got to address Justice Jackson in the majority opinion Justice Jackson however chooses a startling line of attack that is tethered neither to these sources nor frankly to any doctrine whatsoever we will not dwell on
Starting point is 01:16:03 Justice Jackson's argument which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself, and then went on for an entire another page, dwelling. That's the fundamental equivalent of, well, you know, I don't want to say she's a slaughter or anything, and I'm not going to. But Jesus, did you see her on the walk of shame the other morning? Oh my God, her makeup was a mess, her hair was a mess, she was carrying her shoes. Justice Jackson would do well to heed her own admonition. Everyone from the president on down is bound by law.
Starting point is 01:16:50 You see, Justice Jackson really stung her and made it stick when she said that their opinion was destructive, perverse, and wrong, creating a monarch instead of an executive, and said in her dissent, a Martian arriving here from another planet would see these circumstances and surely wonder, what good is the Constitution then? let's see Dan Patches
Starting point is 01:17:23 Crenshaw said well she sure slapped down Jackson and Mike Pencilneck geek said Justice Barrett was brilliant and Frau Ingraham said
Starting point is 01:17:48 Justice Barrett's brutal take down of the descent authored by Justice Jackson is something one would have wouldn't have predicted from oral arguments well I think that's because
Starting point is 01:17:59 the handmade had a chance to do the right thing and well she punted right says David in South Carolina stand and she's black yeah you can almost hear Dan Crenshaw
Starting point is 01:18:21 I can tell with my one good eye that she's black but I have Philo roxered way too long we're almost to the halfway point of the program Let me fire up the old holler tree here. Okay, I think I'm in there. Let's see if I really am or if we have to go to Bluetooth. Okay, can you guys hear me? Roger that.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Oh. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, thank you, Ben. Okay, good. So it's working. It's working. Sounds great.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I wonder why it didn't last Friday. That's weird. Discord for all the good things it does can be very finicky. Sometimes it needs a cold restart for your whole system. things will work. I just couldn't get in here. I had to restart my phone. You just don't know. It's got some flaws compared to Skype over well, it does a better job. Oddly enough, I'm listening to see if I can hear that little squeal and I haven't noticed it yet. Shall we have a moment of vacuity?
Starting point is 01:20:00 News broke this week. Okay, so backstory. I don't know about anybody, any other states, but here in West Virginia, you know, we've got medical marijuana, pain in the ass. They've got more open sales in Ohio. And in both cases, one of the big purveyors of cannabis products is True Leave. T-R-U-L-I-E-E-V-E. well a curious viewer who caught a photograph of the screen of Matt disgraced former congressman Matt it just gates worse happened to notice that on his screen was a deal that it looked like had been offered
Starting point is 01:21:00 from true leave to the man with the giant forehead and the predilection for snorting hard-on pills and drinking Red Bull. And he got busted, and so Matt, it just gates worse, had to run over to X and post an excrement saying, apparently someone sitting behind me on a flight recorded me without my knowledge. They found me texting my mother about news of the day, family finances, and working on my laptop. Please let this be a reminder to everyone to call your mother and maybe get a screen protect her. uh here's the news of the day and told me what he was i guess maybe was he sending it to mama uh he's uh apparently inked a deal with true leave for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Starting point is 01:21:51 for a legal representation consulting and administration related guidance in lobbying and then if other conditions are met he gets a super success fee of at least two million dollars so yeah this is uh... this is probably illegal not that that much matters anymore as justice jackson pointed out i'm surprised i'm surprised the viagra of the se alice people haven't uh... signed
Starting point is 01:22:35 him up yet either red bull tastes like shit them too and uh... add nitwit nero to the list of people attacking zoran mondani I won't subject you to his actual voice He was blathering about Texas instruments Loving his tariffs
Starting point is 01:23:23 It's big company And he said we're putting a $60 billion Into new plants, new equipment, new everything Sir, you're going to keep the tariffs, aren't you? Because if I ever took the tariffs off And we're going to absolutely keep it And they're worried that somebody like this communist From New York someday gets elected
Starting point is 01:23:39 I can't believe that's happening That's a terrible thing for our country By the way, he's a communist we're going to go to a communist. That's so bad for New York. But the rest of the country is revolting against it. But if somebody got elected, they're afraid that if this was taken off,
Starting point is 01:23:54 well, we're going to guarantee it's never going to be taken off. And again, we're taking in hundreds. Think of this, hundreds of billions of dollars. And they were all confused because they've never seen this before. He paused the tariffs. Where are the hundreds of billions of dollars coming from? But that's okay. The Spirokete's got a little confused,
Starting point is 01:24:15 and, well, they think, they told their host that Zoran Mondani was going to be the governor of New York and not the mayor of New York City. He's so gone. And the really dangerous people are the people under him. You know, like little Stephen Miller.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Jesus. Okay, don't everybody be all quiet at the same time. Steve, you heard the dissent. You wrote in. You want to elaborate? I'm actually out in a bar. It's a little too noisy in here right now. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I do too. Nothing much going on here that you keep mentioning my progress. Not yesterday, but the day before, I managed to clock my first under 23-minute mile, which is back what I was doing before the valve started causing me all kinds of problems. and I think my longest singleton hike was 2.5 miles at 25, well,
Starting point is 01:25:52 26 minutes per mile. So things are improving. I'm feeling better. Good. Actually, I feel great except for the fact that the muscle tone in my legs is what I've got to get back now. But my lungs cleared out. The first practitioner told me that
Starting point is 01:26:13 My heart sounds like a heart now, not a washing machine And I'm fine I'm, you know, working out in the garden And What is it? Thursday? Thursday, something like that, maybe Wednesday I participated in teaching a pickle class
Starting point is 01:26:31 Down South, down the Scottish Grove. So things are getting back to normal and I'm looking forward to my approximately four week after from the program toward the end of July and early August where I'll be doing all kinds of things but I am not going to try to summit Donali yeah I'd say that's probably a good that's probably a good call on your part save Donali for next year
Starting point is 01:27:04 no I'm just going to going to let the younger folks do that kind of crap. My toes probably get frostbid just because of my age. I've given up on going to the high peak. I spent enough time at high altitudes between my time in St. Canyon National Park and Yosemite and living in South America. I think I'll stick a little. They've got some altitudinous places in Peru.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Oh, I've been well over 14,000 feet in a car in Peru. Driving from Custro to Colca Canyon, I believe the road gets up to something like 14,500 feet. And that's in a past plateau kind of arrangement. You still got peaked around you. So, I'll leave that high altitude shit to the younger folks. But I do plan on attending the 4th of July. I found out where it's located here in town and where it's going to be and the rest of that. As usual, I'll have my wife drop me off and she's not.
Starting point is 01:28:29 She, I think I said something about this before. Being not born here in the U.S., she does not want to risk in any way, shape, or form being involved in any kind of. thing. I mean, she hasn't been sitting there in the U.S. passport, a whole nine yards, but she has absolutely stared shitless about getting involved in any way, shape, or form anything that could precipitate a mass thug going up and causing problems.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And I respect that. And we've already talked about when we're crossing the border and all that. Well, coming into the U.S., not so much going into Canada. But when we cross Canada back to the U.S. wife, which we're going to do, I'm going to do all the talking, and she's going to be the dutiful little wife
Starting point is 01:29:33 and, you know, two steps behind me and I'll have the passports and answer all the questions. And, you know, I just avoid any kind of confrontation. So, I mean, coming in from the north is probably a little bit easier than coming in from the south, but she does have an accent, as you probably remember Robin. Yeah. So that's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Seems wise. It's a shame that's where we are, but, you know what I mean? Yeah, but what else can we do? I mean, this trip was planned before... Right. He turned and became the president and unleashed all these thugs on the streets. But I still honestly wish, and I was just talking with my brother-in-law about it, I honestly wish some police department somewhere would step in and arrest one or more of these mass unidentifiable people.
Starting point is 01:30:45 who are trying to drag somebody off the street or out of the courthouse or whatever, and arrest them for kidnapping, and then take them into court and allow them to prove that they are, in fact, either contractors or ICE personnel. And if they are contractors, they need to have a business license in most places, to be a contractor. And if they have not gotten their business license, then nail them on that.
Starting point is 01:31:24 And until our local police department start protecting and serving people living here in the United States, this is going to go on. It's going to go on until they target white people, point blank. Don't say to them these people. Until I start targeting white people, your neighbors, people look and sound like you.
Starting point is 01:31:50 People won't give a fuck. It's that point. It's that simple. Sorry, this is the way it is. You don't care because they're not white. It goes back to our great sin. And your wife, Roger is not alone. My father has been here since before Vietnam as a citizen.
Starting point is 01:32:08 He was in college during Vietnam, which kept him from being drafted. His number was, I think, he said, 50 from being drafted the last year he found out at the end of the war. So he came close. but he will not cross the border he will not fly anywhere within the country because he's afraid he looks different
Starting point is 01:32:25 doesn't sound different but he's damn sure it looks different when they look at his password and stuff and his history he's afraid of Yank him and that's just prudence at this point Jeremy I hate to say it but it is
Starting point is 01:32:42 it's just prudence oh and I wanted to I wanted to bring up something that Gary and I talked about toward the end of the program yesterday Gary prompted some interesting questions about our mops, our 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs. And I did some digging around afterward,
Starting point is 01:33:04 and I talked to Ms. Terry, who is a real live, no-kitting, licensed professional geologist. And I don't use it, and I don't make a lot of noise about it, but I had my degree back in, back when I wrote, my dinosaur to Woodburn Circle at Harvard on the Mon. My English degree wasn't allowed to have a minor, but I had enough hours for a minor in geology, and I loved it.
Starting point is 01:33:36 But my conversation with Gary last night prompted me to get in touch with Terry, again with the rhyming. And we discussed the Albor's Mountains of Iran. I was purely speculative, but in the reading I did about the Albor's mountains, one of the things I found out is that the highest active volcano in Asia is in those mountains at north of 15,000 feet or so. Since we were talking about altitude a minute ago, that's what triggered my thought. And since those mountains are volcanic,
Starting point is 01:34:32 there's a decent chance that they are comprised of igneous or metamorphic rock as compared to say the Appalachians with which I'm far more familiar here it's sandstone shale coal but even that is solid rock as Gary pointed out it's a hell of a thing to drop a 30,000 pound weapon on dirt it's going to go a ways. As Gary pointed out, because there's a lot of air in dirt. Not a lot of air in granite.
Starting point is 01:35:18 And the specs on the bomb from Janes suggests that it might be able to penetrate 50 feet, 60 feet of concrete. But there is almost, if it was 200 or more feet that facility below a mountain comprised of, igneous or metamorphic rock that bomb doesn't have a chewing device on the front of it and it's not that smart a bomb basically it only explodes when it comes to rest so we spent a shitload of money and i guess we made a mess but again when you're talking about and unfortunately i have a rather considerable amount of knowledge about blowing up avalachian mountains um we've we've calculated Coal River Mountain Watch has calculated in the past that one so-called shot on a mountaintop removal site
Starting point is 01:36:22 is roughly the explosive force of 20 or so Tomahawk cruise missiles all landing at once and of course if you've ever seen one of these things there are separate drill holes and they drill down through the rock to the coal they want to to and then pack it with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil.
Starting point is 01:36:49 So that explosive doesn't have to do the work that one of these 30,000 pound bombs does. He can blather on and on and on, but he didn't get it. Caroline, real poo-poo, leave it alone, can lie all she wants. They didn't get it. And it has nothing to do with the heroism of our brave patriot pilots. You, Robin, or Bob Sesska yesterday, mate. So I had commented that at the same press coverings where Pete Higgs had his fucking meltdown against Fox yesterday, Trump was there. And one of the reporters mentioned the pictures from 10 days before from the moving the stuff out with the 12 or 13 trucks.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Trump repeated out to the crowd, no, that was them covering up the holes because they're embarrassed about what we did. Jesus. You know, his default position is, you know, just lie. Just lie. And just for the record, they said each one of those bunker busters, which are essentially the moab. for 500 million apiece. We dropped eight of them. We dropped more than eight, Jeremy.
Starting point is 01:38:12 14. Okay. I've heard eight. I'm staying corrected, but still, $500 million a pop, do the math in your head. Dear God. That's $7 billion. You're all the homeless people we could have fed.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Yeah, that's $7 billion, and that's before you pay for the gas for the airplanes. The one thing that came to my mind on this is apparently these big bombs do have some self-guiding mechanism. Now, if that bomb were, in fact, to hit the refrigerator-sized door of the air shaft or whatever, it would go, I mean, it wouldn't be going, dropped out of a plane, a bomb has a horizontal component and a vertical component in its flight. And even if it were to actually pinpoint hit the air shaft or something,
Starting point is 01:39:14 it would still need to do some penetrating after it and changing in direction after it hit the air shaft number, which would cause it to slow down a bit. And then if it got deep enough and it exploded, the force would have transferred the air shaft. Now, I know that some of these smart bombs that were used in Afghanistan and Iraq, they could actually hit a
Starting point is 01:39:46 window and go into the building before it blew up. But even if that, even if they actually managed to actually pinpoint that air shaft, guess it would do more damage, but it still couldn't get all the way down that air shaft.
Starting point is 01:40:05 shaft before it quit moving. No. But to me that, those are a whole lot of if to get to something that's two to 300 feet below the surface of the dirt. And while they, and Roger, you are
Starting point is 01:40:23 correct, they have a GPS guidance on them, but they have no independent motors. They're not missiles per se. I mean, they're bombs. They're not that smart on the bomb end, things so yeah if it if it hit the shaft i i guess it's i mean it's going to go some way some distance but if it's if the shaft is smaller than the bomb is when it whenever it came to the
Starting point is 01:40:55 stop that's when it went boom so yeah i think you're i think you're right and of course you know We are a nation who doesn't do this kind of deep diving, but even the explosive force of, say, granite versus sandstone, sucking up that kinetic energy, still a substantial difference there. I'm not denying substantial difference. No, I know. There's a whole lot of it and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:41:40 and I know Iran is not going to come out with a press release, saying, well, you know, United States, you missed the air shaft. You just kind of covered up our air shafts. As soon as we dig those out from the debris from the explosion and rebuild the sand, we're going to be back in business. So it's my ass, we're going to get a nuclear bomb, and if you try it a second time, we'll drop it on you. You know, we'll wait for you to be golfing at Mar-a-Lago
Starting point is 01:42:08 to not screw up your infrastructure. Washington, D.C. But have a nice day. The thing that Jeremy was talking about, it's the development cost. The development cost of the G.B.U.57 was between $400 and $500 million. Each G.B.U.57 price tag is $20 million. And we dropped 14 of those from seven B-2 stealth bombers on Iran, which 60,000 pounds is a maximum amount of weight that the B-2 can carry.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Yeah, and I guess we've got. a Northrop Grumman bomber in design and testing to replace the B-2s by like the 2040s. Well, the fact is we spent a shitload of money that didn't need to be spent. Right. In the middle of this economic problem we're having in trying to eliminate fraud and waste. And I think how many homeless veterans could have been, We're just homeless people. I know.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Sheltered for that amount of money. Yeah. We're all on the same page in this group. Sure. So don't need to go into the weeds on that. But based on what I said yesterday evening, I do continue to worry about his deteriorating mental condition. And if he doesn't get his way, his possible
Starting point is 01:43:52 propensity for going ahead and using a nuclear device. I mean, he's so whacked that in the crazy-ass press conference that Matt referred to in his email at the beginning of the program, at one point he swerved over to Iran and why would the so-called supreme
Starting point is 01:44:14 leader Ayatollah al-Kamani of the war-torn country of Iran say so blatantly and foolishly that he won the war with Israel when he knows his statement is a lie. It is not so. As a man of great faith, he is not supposed to lie. Yeah, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:30 nitwit Nero's got a working understanding of Islam. His country was decimated, his three evil nuclear sites were obliterated, and I knew exactly where he was sheltered and would not let Israel or the U.S. armed forces by far the greatest and most powerful in the world terminate his life. I saved him from a very ugly and ignominious death,
Starting point is 01:44:51 and he does not have to say. thank you, Mr. President Trump. He's got a list of people who don't say thank you. Yeah. And then it was sickening when he went over to the NATO summit, and they started calling him Daddy. It was like, what? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I saw that. That was sickening. I think that might have been sarcasm. I hope it was sarcasm. It's just a matter of energy, says Micah. We can shoot a giant ginsu knife into the driver's side of the car. But wait. there's more. Oh, and back to
Starting point is 01:45:57 Kirsten Gillibrand. What a hot mess. By the way, Mom Dani has received the support, I guess, Chuckle Schumer is trying to get out there in front of the potential challenge by AOC. Chuckle Schumer has said, I'll be happy to meet with
Starting point is 01:46:16 Mr. Moundani and you know, made pleasant mouth noises. Victoria just wrote in and said Funny how someone like Kirsten Gillibrand Can grasp the nuances of anti-Semitism How even the tiniest slight can cut deep But when it comes to other kinds of people
Starting point is 01:46:34 Suddenly the concept of microaggressions becomes rocket science Damn, honey That's so true Yeah Yeah Robin I was curious because I looked it up on Google Maps Because you know where I'm at in eastern Kansas I wanted to see just how close I really was to
Starting point is 01:46:59 Whiteman Air Force Base, and believe it or not, Whiteman Air Force Base is only an hour and 20 minutes to the east of me. Hmm. That's how close I am to those bombers. Wow. And check an email here from Brother Deacon, re Bunker Busters. You don't think those dumb nuclear physicists would have thought to do some of that
Starting point is 01:47:27 back of the napkin calculation to figure how deep they'd have to build this nuclear facility, would you? There'd be absolutely no reason for them to think that Israel or Morocco would feel froggy one day. Well, of course not, Brother Deacon, because remember, they may be nuclear physicists, but they're Iranian and therefore they're crazy. And they're nuclear physicists, Steve. Yes, they are. They're nuclear physicists, Steve. You're absolutely right. Does this seem like a parody, or is it me? No, it's almost too stupid for comprehension, but here we are.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Yeah, and the odds of one GBE 57 going down 200 feet, and then another one going in the exact same spot, another 200 feet, and then is slim to none. I mean... Yeah, needle threading. But this is what comes of assuming that one side is crazy. when there is a crazy side, but it's either all, everybody or no one. But with the way the news has been today, I don't know which, I don't know which story to be more horrified by, quite honestly.
Starting point is 01:49:10 There's so many. We could also start talking about the $27 million penthouse. The Barack Obama has accepted the money for to be built, on the top of his library, his presidential library, which is an excuse for why we shouldn't be upset at Donnie accepting a $400 million airplane. Is it just me or those not the same things? Well, I just got a post from my favorite MAGA explaining that Barack Obama had accepted this $27 million for a pet house. for his exclusive use to be built as a penthouse on his presidential library, which is absolute total bullshit.
Starting point is 01:50:13 But it's what's being promulgated through the right wing. Oh, they are, they're just in such a different universe, Roger. I saw somebody I know who's a maggot who was posting about the auto pen today. and in some cases these are relatively intelligent people until it comes to Donnie and then they have just lost and then all bets are fucking off and that's what makes it a cult precisely so I was curious and I looked it up on YouTube you know I wanted to get some you know some education about that bomb
Starting point is 01:51:05 and find out why it waits so freaking much and come to find out the reason why it weighs 30,000 pounds is because the outer casing is made out of cobalt still on titanium. Well, it's also got a shit ton of explosives in it, Ben. Yeah, it's got a very big, massive conventional warhead in it. Because... Because among other things, what we were using in Afghanistan in particular was proving not sufficient to the task. The Moab was a 5,000-pound bomb.
Starting point is 01:51:44 And in fact, that clown who's running the joint chiefs now, because nitwit Nero had to get rid of the black guy, as I mentioned on yesterday's program, lied all over the place about that bomb. Oh, and interesting, Justice Anthony Kennedy, who is retired from the Supreme Court, has decided to announce to the world that he's worried. Remember, this is the guy who gave us Citizens United and declared from the Supreme Court's perch that just because a corporation gives a politician a bunch of money and the politician does what the corporation wants, that doesn't mean it's necessarily a bribe, which led to last year's Supreme Court decision declaring that bribes paid to politicians aren't bribes after all. They're merely gratuities. but this is Anthony Kennedy the same Anthony Kennedy who helped hand us George W. Bush in 2000
Starting point is 01:52:57 and he was on a panel recently about threats to the rule of law where he declared many in the rest of the world look to the United States to see what democracy is to see what democracy ought to be if they see a hostile fractious discourse
Starting point is 01:53:23 if they see a discourse that uses identity politics rather than to talk about issues, democracy is at risk. Freedom is at risk. Wait. Identity politics? That ain't the problem here, Antony. The problem here is fascism. The problem here is an executive who thinks himself a monarch or more aptly a mob boss instead of a chief executive.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Wait a minute. Here's a funny little moment. Nicole Wallace is apparently getting into the act. She did a dramatic reading a couple of days ago over the trade deals and Howard Nutnik. Look, I'll take a giggle anywhere I can get one. And by the way, we are at the third hour of the program. We have $1,450 to go.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Thank you to Henry and Ralph. for jumping in 1450 to go and if we can uh god if we could just knock down 450 this evening so that we got a fight and chance on the last day of June that would be fantastic so fingers crossed PayPal buttons at head on dot live Patreon button is under the contribute tab let's see mocking Howard Nutnik Japan India we're closed we got this framework from the UK but what else is in else is coming there oh there was so many coming but when you've got scott chaymond and i spending you know 25 hours and locked in a room with the chinese we're not really doing the other deals
Starting point is 01:55:27 yes our teams are moving them forward but uh you know now we're going to be focused uh starting today we're going to be focused on other deals uh we're going to get them done we're in good shape with lots of countries but good shape isn't good enough for the united states of america and you're going to see deal after deal this is going to start coming next week and the week after and the week after. We've got lots of them in the hopper. I mean, maybe that's true, Mara, but this is the guy that promised 90 and 90 days.
Starting point is 01:55:55 I think we're at day 63, and there are 0.5. There's a framework with the UK, and there's whatever, sort of back to whatever the status was with China. There are actually no signed deals. I mean, first of all, deals that were only necessary after the president created this chaos to begin with, But there was so much spin there that I couldn't even understand what the news was. So there's maybe a deal, an agreement about a deal, and there's going to be more deals to come.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Are you? Are you? I'm going to be awesome. So the question, we thought the deals with Japan and India were close. All we've got basically is a framework from the UK. But what else is in? What else is coming? Like a softball, but a fair question.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Letnik. oh, there was so many coming. But when you've got Scott Jameson and I spending, you know, 25 hours locked in a room with the Chinese, we're not really doing the other deals. Yes, our teams are moving them forward, but you know, now we're going to be focused, starting today. We're going to be focused on other deals starting today. We're going to get them done. We're in good shape with lots of countries, but good shape isn't good enough for the U.S. So I guess my question for Wall Street would be, does that... Nicole, call me. We'll work on your readings.
Starting point is 01:57:19 So many deals, so much winning. You're going to get tired of all the winning. She says, like a British comedy. And people are really savaging Whiskey Pete Kegbreath over the tantrum that he threw on air a couple of days ago. Did Pete Higgseth start crying today? during his press conference, yikes. Was he emotionally stable enough to lead our military or not? Maybe it's his hormones.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Maybe he's hysterical. Fucking crybaby Hegseth is crying about the press. For guys who love to call themselves tough guys, this administration does a lot of whining. Army combat veteran and podcaster Fred Welman put it best. He said, no, I'm not watching Pete Hegseth cry lie and jack off Trump for half an hour. This is the most pathetic administration in history,
Starting point is 01:58:42 just a bunch of whiny losers. Eric Swalwell jumped it did did Hegseth start crying today during his press conference my God is he emotionally is stable enough to lead our military what was he crying about
Starting point is 01:59:06 anyone know yeah yeah he was crying about the leak I mean it's like in your DNA he was pissed at the press it's here maybe we should let him do it in his own voice stand by out of general
Starting point is 01:59:31 than perhaps out of the secretary who's taken on this kind of cheerleader role for the White House. David, if you were in... That was before he came on. And there he is. Where there was a historic outcome. I want to start with that real quick. I think there's so much news, so many things happening that oftentimes big, momentous moments get missed. What President Trump accomplished in a video yesterday was game-changing and historic.
Starting point is 02:00:00 A shift in burden sharing to European responsibility in NATO that most would have said was impossible at the beginning of his term. But he said NATO needs to pay up. They started in the first term. And here in his second term, we've accelerated that. 32 NATO countries committed to spending 5% of their GDP on defense on actually investing in the NATO alliance. So I hope with all the ink spilled, all of your outlets find the time to properly recognize this historic change in continental security. That other presidents tried to do. Other presidents talked about.
Starting point is 02:00:42 President Trump accomplished it. It's a huge deal. I see, we're here this morning because in hunting for scandals all the time, in trying to find wedges and spin stories, this press corps, and the press corps miss historic moments. You miss historic moments like 5% at NATO, which when you hear, I was in the closed door briefing. I wish there could have been cameras in there. When you heard the prime ministers and presidents of other countries to a man and to a woman looking at President Trump and saying, this never could have happened, never would have
Starting point is 02:01:16 happened. It seemed impossible five years ago, two years ago, eight years ago. But here we are because of your leadership. If you ask them the question, I bet they'd say the same. thing. But searching for scandals, you miss historic moments, like recruiting at the Pentagon. Historic levels in the Army, the Air Force, and the Navy. Yeah, maybe there'll be a little mention here or there. But because it was under President Trump's leadership, because it was because Americans are responding to him as commander-in-chief, the press corps doesn't want to write about it.
Starting point is 02:01:48 I mean, the American people are responding to him. His approval numbers are in the toilet. Or bring us to the topic of the moment, the highly successful strikes in Iran. Let me read the bottom line here. President Trump directed the most complex and secretive military operation in history. And it was a lot of words for sneak attack, dishonorable, disingenuous, dirty sneak attack. Resounding success resulting in a ceasefire agreement and the end of the 12-day war. There's been a lot of discussion about what happened and what didn't happen. Step back for a second. Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions to end the war.
Starting point is 02:02:36 Decimating, choose your word, obliterating, destroying. Uh-oh, he was about to forget to get the magic word in there. Abliterate. Say it a secret. Well, then the duck drops down. You win $100. Got to say obliterate, y'all. I've got to say it all the time. And you know what? None of this is true. Oh, it's all lies. You honestly think that these European leaders basically said to him,
Starting point is 02:03:09 oh, we couldn't have done this without you. Daddy. He's trying to make the world forget about the outstanding success and miraculous killing of Obama bin Laden. He's trying to make that disappear. That's all this is. And he's failing. This is something you could have been written come right out of North Korea.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Yes. Tremendous obliterated. Dear leader actually flew one of planes. Dear leader flew all planes. But the reality is the other countries in NATO are stepping up because the United States is pulling out. cannot be trusted. Yes, they have to if they don't want another European abattoir. Well, and apparently Putin just said he wants all of Ukraine because he is, again, wanting to reconstitute the USSR, which the Europeans are deathly afraid of because a whole lot of Eastern Europe was at one time part of the
Starting point is 02:04:36 USSR and some of those countries have become NATO countries and it would be clearly World War 3 that they're looking at trying to avoid by building up NATO because the United States is back and out and can't be trusted as you just said. It's not it's not a stable situation, Roger. You know that. That's what scares me so much. This isn't, you know, this isn't some cold calculating Dr. Evil or Bond villain. This is a guy who's gone balmy.
Starting point is 02:05:32 Bar me. Can I ask the question on a completely different topic? You can take it anywhere you want to. It's a regular joint. Did you see that the, I think it's the Fed or it's the Bureau of Economic Statement? I can't remember it's called the There's an organization that determines when a recession When we go into recession
Starting point is 02:05:57 That they revised downward Made the the first quarter growth was negative And they actually revised it even downward further Oh geez Yes we're going to find out we're in a recession I saw a graph That went back like three years and there's been various growth, but they were all positive until this last quarter, and it's negative.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I think it's like 1.2% or something of that sort was the negative. Which is actually, yes, 1.2% negative is actually very, very big. But like I said, I think we're going to find out, in the second quarter figures are probably come out in mid-July. we're going to find out that we're negative and let me tell you what and if we do find out we're negative which means we're a fit session he will go crazy do you think so he'll just say he'll just say it's not true i mean it's like it's like that it's like that business about all the trade deals we've got a half of one and we're going to have 90 and 90 days well i mean they'll happen I mean
Starting point is 02:07:18 If it goes negative It's going to be Well, this is just the result Of the residual Of Biden screwing up the economy Bear with me And it will be great It'll be great
Starting point is 02:07:33 It'll be the most fantastic economy That we have ever seen Give it a little bit more time For my tariffs to work their magic Well look Yeah, we had to quote earlier, Roger He said We're already bringing in hundreds of billions of dollars from terrorists.
Starting point is 02:07:51 No, he isn't. That's just price increases. And consumers pay it. I mean, we know that. But he just lies, and the maggots go, Buh, Dad, Dad, Daddy. Robin, I found a map of all of the original United, United Soviet, Social, Republic. It was Russia,
Starting point is 02:08:26 Estonia. What's that one? I can't tell because there's something blocking it. Latvia. Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Madalva, Georgia, Armenia, Kakistan, Ubikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kyrgyzstan,
Starting point is 02:08:47 Turkistan, and then two other stands I can't pronounce. It's Turkmenistan. Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, or the Ukraine at that point. Yeah. Central Asia was the Baltic states. Was it 11?
Starting point is 02:09:08 11 republics or 13? I can't remember if it was 11 or 13. And the only one that's still holding on with Russia's Belarus. And then the other countries that were just part of the Eastern Bloc. Yep. Yeah, the Warsaw Pact. Yeah. Did I hear somebody say that,
Starting point is 02:09:32 Russia has basically said they're going to arm Iran, going to sell arms to Iran. Dmitri Medvedev posited that idea, you know, former president. He's the chief security advisor to Pudi right now. Maybe we'll give them something. Yeah. I have to ask a question, and I'm going to maybe get some feet. But what is the problem with Iran having a nuclear weapon? Well, I've been asking that.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Hey, Benny, can you, Ben, could you mute, please? There's some sort of noise coming through. I mean, why are they so much worse than anybody else? Because they're crazy, Steve. That's the whole problem with this entire undiplomatic effort. It's posited on people, on countries, not acting for the benefit of their own people's well-being, but because they're crazy. And you know what, to be honest?
Starting point is 02:10:39 I mean, I know it's not a very high bar, but I think I would suspect that Iran is probably the quote-unquote most progressive country in the entire Muslim world. Oddly enough, just a couple of weeks ago, Victoria and I were watching the Bordane episode where he went to Iran. And he was, was, you know, he was honest and he was Bordane, but he also had as guests, or he did
Starting point is 02:11:12 interviews with, a pair of Iranian journalists, one of whom worked for the Washington Post. They were both taken into custody about a month or so after he left Iran just for having to talk to the, you know, the great Satan, Tony Bordane. They were eventually released, and they're both back now in the United States, but they were in their home country, and they loved being there. And we have such a fundamental non-understanding of Iran. You know who George Galway is, right? Yes, he's now a member of parliament. Yeah, I remember him, though.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Yeah. He shot a video. Let me see if I can bring that up. It might be beneficial here. Uh, do, do, do. I'll have this in it. There we go. And scroll, scroll, scroll.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Where did you send me that clip, Asa? Let me just on another note. How are you doing, Jeremy? I'm good, thanks. Cool. Good to hear you're okay. You must have seen my post about, almost passing out last night.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Ooh, I didn't see that. Everything okay, though? Yeah, I, accidental suicide attempt last. I'm making it in a funny way because it happens. I overdose with insulin, and I've had type 1 for 10 years now. Sometimes I feel the lows.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Sometimes I don't. And I got to one of my second building glass, and I looked down at 44. Just so, you know, anything under 70 is dangerous. Yes. If you hit zero, you convulse and will die. More than likely if you're not saved. And I didn't feel it until I got on my truck
Starting point is 02:13:42 and started walking to the elevator, look up the stairs. And as soon as I did, it was a weird feeling. My whole body was tingling. I was foggy, hard time thinking. It took a whole cold red to bring you out of that 44 because I was pulling myself into the 30s. So it was a strange night, but I'm okay. It happens once in a great while.
Starting point is 02:14:02 I screwed up my calculations, but it was a scary thing, not for sure. I can imagine. I had something somewhat similar happen at Pride. I think I scared Victoria. I overheated and my blood sugar plummeted at the same time. And it was, yeah, the way you described it, Jeremy, is exactly how it is. Yep, it's almost like, almost like you're not in your own body. It's a weird, worse than an interest for you.
Starting point is 02:14:36 In a way, weirdly enough hatred to say that, but it was last night. It was like I was in a fog. I can't explain it until you felt. I don't think you did. So that's good. Or not good, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, here's the clip.
Starting point is 02:14:49 It's George Galloway. He is in Tehran. And this kind of goes to the heart of your point, Steve. George, can you tell us more about this monument? This is the Heim Synagogue in downtown Tehran. It's more than 100 years old, and it's still active. Let me say that again. The Heim synagogue in downtown.
Starting point is 02:15:30 Iran. The largest community of Jewish people in this entire part of the world is here in Iran. They have members in the parliament, members in the government, honor, treasure. There's not even a guard on this synagogue. And there doesn't need to be because the Iranian people honor, value, cherish the Jewish community that lives here and has lived here since ancient times. Jewish people at least will know of the house of Esther and Modachah in the Iranian town of Hamadam, which is a place of pilgrimage for Jews all over the world. You didn't know any of this, did you? Because they don't want you to know about any of this. Iran is a restless mosaic of many faiths, many peoples, many cultures and of all.
Starting point is 02:16:28 and of great and ancient history. It's also a country of 90 million people. And it's well able to handle its own security. So those who dream of making war on Iran should not do so. And nobody who watches this, at least, should support it. Kind of, like I said, kind of directly on your point, Steve. Yeah. assuming you heard.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Yeah, I did. No, I heard it. It came across fine. Did everybody else hear it? I think so. I heard it. So there's no reason everybody else wouldn't have heard it. Okay. Yeah. I heard it. I mean, when he says since ancient times,
Starting point is 02:17:25 he means it, the Jewish community in Iran has been there since the Achaimid dynasty marched over, kicked ass and
Starting point is 02:17:43 took them into captivity but eventually what was it Cyrus the Great he's praised in the old Testament was it was it Cyrus or Zerxes? No I think it was Cyrus I think you're right it was Cyrus He freed the Jews The Hebrews
Starting point is 02:17:59 And let him go back to build their temple But a lot of people said hey it's pretty nice here And stayed on you know for 2,500 years. But America being stupid about other countries is nothing new. I don't like talking about my country being stupid, but here we are. For instance, when we were being whipped into a bloodthirsty war frenzy against Saddam Hussein and the Iraq, such as, there was no mention made of the fact that
Starting point is 02:18:42 some of the most ancient Christian communities on the planet were in Iraq and had been there wasn't one of Hussein's deputies Christian? Yes but I mean we're talking about Christian communities that were commensurate with the actual creation of the Jesus cult and there's no there's no nastiness in calling it the Jesus cult
Starting point is 02:19:12 because that's how all religions start as a personal cult and then it becomes communal, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And we had no idea, because I remember this so well, because I remember being right about this so well. Yeah. I think they were called Chaldean Christians. Caldean Christians, exactly. I think there's a PBS documentary on Christianity that actually. talks about these communities. It made more sense for the religion to move eastward
Starting point is 02:19:56 than for some former temple policeman on the lamb to change his name and take it to Greece. We're talking about Paul here, of course. Paul, yeah, I know. But we know nothing. We are blithely ignorant. You can go back into the 19th century and find Mark Twain talking about the value of possessing a passport
Starting point is 02:20:29 and seeing parts of the world you've never seen before. Let me see if I can find the quote. Sorry for the dead air. I hate it too. There. Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Isn't our country like one of the smallest in terms of, has some of the smallest proportion of people with passports in the western world.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Absolutely. He also said, It liberates the vandal to travel. You never saw a bigoted, opinionated, stubborn, narrow-minded, self-conceited, almighty, mean man in your life, but he had stuck in one place since he was born. Travel is the school where illustrations are learned without walls. Well, I forget exactly when it was that the ugly American was being, brandied about on the
Starting point is 02:22:06 ignorance of the American tourist. Oh, the ugly American is paradigmatic. I'm thinking it was in the like 50s and 60s where it was being pushed to the ugly American. You know, the lady that goes to
Starting point is 02:22:28 Spain and is pissed off because the taxi drivers can't speak English. It's a beautiful place, but there's too damn many foreigners there. Yeah, it's a 1950. novel by Eugene Burdick and William
Starting point is 02:22:45 Letterer that depicts the failures of the U.S. diplomatic corps in Southeast Asia and yeah, I mean, look I'm sure maybe it's not just Americans, but gosh, it's Americans.
Starting point is 02:23:07 When someone is speaking a language that isn't English, so you yell English more loudly at them. And the irony is that it's The language is called English. That's the irony, at least as far as I can see.
Starting point is 02:23:28 Or one of the ironies if I can see. I said Donde est, El Banyo. I would even say that they would even say El Banjo. They'd say El Banjo. Oh, Jesus. You know, but Twain himself noted his own foibles. He said that the first thing he learned in Germany, was the phrase,
Starting point is 02:23:59 two glasses, Bita, meaning he wanted two glasses of beer. And he said, with that in hand, I've been able to negotiate Germany quite nicely. But he also said at the time that he ran into an American friend who said, Mr. Twain,
Starting point is 02:24:18 I should rather decline two drinks than one German adjective, which is also true. Oh, did you get my, on a completely different, and I'm sorry, I'm kind of all over the place tonight. You're okay. The email I sent about Cynthia's email, the hint.
Starting point is 02:24:39 Oh, yes, I did. When I heard, see, I had to cheat because I, yes, I admit I've not read that book. And I'm going to actually get that book and read it. But when I heard her, when I heard her email, I'm like, wow, once you know the hint seems pretty damn obvious. Yes, it does. Have you had any other people say that they guess the quotation? No, we're stuck. Micah, Aza, Jeremy, Randy Radar, Tamara, Peter, Lee, and Sylvie.
Starting point is 02:25:25 What's that? How much, is that seven or eight? Yeah. And we need to get to 15? That's eight, and we need to get to 15. Okay, and is Sylvie giving us a special dispensation to have less than that? Well, we'll see by the end of Monday. You mean Cynthia.
Starting point is 02:25:47 Sylvie has an interesting story. She got it right. And like I said, there's a story that goes with it that I can't share yet. Okay. Oh, by the way, are you doing it? When is Pride in your neck of the woods? Is it this weekend or is it? No, we went.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Victoria and I went to Pride. We were gorgeous. was gorgeous. Of course, I would expect nothing less. We went to Pride on June the 14th up in Parkersburg. It was the sweetest pride I've ever been to. Not that I've been to many. Lots of vendors and food trucks and service providers and a lot of music and joy, just joy. I mean, I've been to no small number of Baptist meetings on dinners on the ground and whatnot. I never saw people that happy at a Baptist picnic as what I saw cried. That's nice.
Starting point is 02:26:50 I actually had a moment where tears began involuntarily falling from my eyes, and they were happy tears. There was a moment when a kid ran up to give one of the queens a dollar, and he was so excited. They were so excited. I mean, everybody was just happy, dare I say, gay. And in that moment, the tears came because I realized no amount of suppression, no amount of oppression, no amount of Christian hate can ever overcome moments like that. it was beautiful speaking of pride
Starting point is 02:27:45 doesn't have a supreme court ruling today you haven't mentioned oh which one the one about crazy Christians not letting their kids reading oh yeah yeah yeah stupid thing don't just pin that on the crazy Christians pin that on the crazy Muslims too because they finally found
Starting point is 02:28:05 Democrats they finally found something they agreed about on and so the Christian grifts got together with the Muslim grifts and sued because they don't want their precious children learning about the queers and so the Supreme Court said yeah you can opt your kid out of learning about people who aren't exactly like you the irony of a Muslim doing that is not lost on me so can the Christians opt their kids out when we're talking about what it is to be Muslim in America?
Starting point is 02:28:48 Can it be as much as I don't want my kid reading Shakespeare because what does Shakespeare have to do with getting a job? Right. So they could have told them to just go the fuck home and teach their kids what they want to at home, but the public schools are not going to bend over backwards for them. But instead they made a bigger mess than there already was. and I should note, Jeremy, as of yesterday, there was a conference at the Supreme Court
Starting point is 02:29:24 because they've got a backlog of transmisia to deal with. And they had kind of put everything on hold pending Scermetti, which came out last week, and now they're going to figure out what to do with, like, the one little girl in West Virginia who's running track, who has never experienced a male puberty who has never had testosterone poison her system and they got to deal with that they got to deal with bands in Idaho
Starting point is 02:30:07 and everything's up in the air at this point and from Cynthia by the way Cynthia has departed downward in her hopes for an answer. I'll accept 10 correct answers at this point. Can we get two more? I still can't believe this one is so hard. All my hints are to me like saying grok for stranger in a strange land. Everybody just knows, right? And I didn't just toss out one hint. I tossed out a shitload of
Starting point is 02:30:49 them. Roxanne knows. Roxanne does. Mm-hmm. Well, figure out these odds, Robin. I found out these later in life. after, like, my sister already passed. But it turns out my sister, my mom kept it quiet because it was the 90s, and that's what you did. You kept her family secrets quiet, but my sister was my.
Starting point is 02:31:10 I never knew that until she'd have she done. She had two children. Her oldest, who's now living on her own, has nodded to my mom in quiet that she might be the same way. Her younger sister calls by they. Figure that one out.
Starting point is 02:31:29 Non-binary. And then there's me. She's non-binary, yes. Hasn't declared either way. And for both of these kids, I have heavily warned my mother. Be careful what you say to them. They remember it. It scars them.
Starting point is 02:31:41 Even if you mean the best, it'll hurt them. And I've told her, I've forgiven her everything she said over the years. She was doing what she thought was best for me at the time. I said, I never forgot it. It stuck with me, especially the burning stuff you said. It never goes away. It can still feel to the pain to this day, if I think about it a lot. And I've warned her, we've reached.
Starting point is 02:32:00 repeatedly, especially when you told me of the younger niece, not going by the day. I said, don't shame her. Don't tell her she's wrong. She knows what she is, whether you think she does or not. Let it be. She's agreed she will. They know who they are. They know who they are.
Starting point is 02:32:13 It can be a little bit awkward, they them at first, but you get used to it. Because, again, they them as a third person singular pronoun has existed in English since like the 14th century. It's in Shakespeare. I think it's in Chaucer. But, yeah, and, you know, the whole point of being non-binary is that you're not one or the other. You're not comfortable completely adopting a binary gender expression. And no, she's not going to school. No, they're not pushing a sex change on her to let him.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Oh, God. all the barking and grunting She went to school a girl When they came a little boy with a basketball Ugh I know Kind of a quiet night tonight I've noticed Well I think we're overwhelmed
Starting point is 02:33:26 Yeah I think that's probably true I know I am listening to that Supreme Court stuff That you were talking about earlier And I'm proud to say it wasn't just me Oh it wasn't Yeah I mean, Ellie Honig at CNN was just flabbergasted. Go ahead, Squeaky.
Starting point is 02:33:51 Yesterday I went, actually, yeah. Yesterday I went to ophthalmologist to following my cataracts, and she found that the duct store glasses I'm wearing are very close to prescription, so I don't need to replace them. That's a win. She gave me a prescription. If I wanted to do it, a bifocal in the future.
Starting point is 02:34:26 But I only need these glasses up close, and they match very closely her recommendations. And I'm seeing things great. I see it, Phil, that's all. Perfect. That's wonderful. I'm only 80. I'm only 83.
Starting point is 02:34:50 Hey, yeah, you're a chipper 83. Look, you got catching up to do with Juanita. Yesterday was her 91st birthday, Squeaky. I heard that. You got me beat Squeaky. I'm only 45, I'll only be 45 this year. This last year, my vision has slipped. It used to be 2022.
Starting point is 02:35:12 I now require a pair of glasses to read my phone and read small text. Everything else I can get around with. But if it's small black and white text, there's no fucking hope. I cannot read menus in stores. I have to wear glasses of restaurants now. Just part of life, I guess. That's what I used to have to do. Just to carry my flashlight with me.
Starting point is 02:35:33 No, I don't need to. Yeah, I have to carry a flashlight. Plus, I also buy those, like, I don't know, like 30 pack of Costco reading glasses that I get. They're basically magnifying glasses. And I have to use those to, like, Jerry. Jeremy said to read small things. It drives me crazy. But, you know, such is life.
Starting point is 02:36:00 Yeah, I've just been astigmatic since a teenager, so I got them for driving. And they're cute, too. You've had the stigmatis since teenager? A stigmatism, I said. Quit that. I don't have any. You know how I know I don't have stigmata? I can still eat M&Ms because they don't fall through the holes in my hands.
Starting point is 02:36:24 My God, I was waiting. I was going to be. I knew it. I knew it. There's going to be the M&M joke in there. I knew it. Careful, Robin. Dave might take offense to this.
Starting point is 02:36:35 There's a gimmick. Maybe jump up there and polo stick yourself in. Absolutely. I mean, but I get us. I've got a special dispensation from Gladys and nobody fucks with Gladys. Okay. Okay. Just want to make sure that you, if you did buy a cross to jump up onto, you bought it from the right place.
Starting point is 02:36:53 Oh, we never. I would never go anywhere, but Crazy Dave's. Okay, good. Just want to make sure. Because they're crazy. I don't know if I told you. I think I'd tell you periodically we had our Pride mask just outside of Stonewall Bar last night. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 02:37:16 Were you there? Of course you were. Yeah, I went. Good man. Just to please all the listeners from the dead air, how can you compare what a, Trump's last couple press conferences to ancient Roman Greece Robin. Just we want to know.
Starting point is 02:37:34 We need to know. Oh, don't pressure me like that. But of course, you know, the fact of the matter is the Persian civilization were the civilizing influences on the Greek city states. All those beautiful buildings
Starting point is 02:37:57 on the Acropolis they bogarded the designed from Persia. By the way, I've started a new book. Same author as the last one. The first one was called 1177 the year civilization collapsed about 1177 BCE in the end of the late Bronze Age. Well, he came out with another one. After 1177, clever, right?
Starting point is 02:38:27 Eric Klein, I think is his name, C-L-I-N-E. And this is an exploration of what rose from the ashes. of the late Bronze Age in the Levant and over into Mesopotamia. And that's where you start getting, you know, the rise of the Echaemenids. That was the ruling house of ancient Persia.
Starting point is 02:38:57 Reveread to this day, et cetera, et cetera. Not bad for off the cuff, Jeremy. But in regard to the birthright citizenship decision today. Yeah, Ellie Honig over at CNN was pretty much aghast. Much did they give away here? They gave away a lot from lower court judges, not from themselves.
Starting point is 02:39:29 I have to say, picking up on what Kristen just said about Amy Coney-Barrant and the others that Donald Trump thanked, you know, I go to the courtroom to hear these announcements made. And when they started today, they had six opinions to give. And this was going to be the biggest. So I presumed it would come last. And probably Chief Justice John Roberts would take it for himself, as Chief Justice John Roberts always takes the biggest for himself. And he said, today, Justice Barrett has our opinion in Trump v. Casa,
Starting point is 02:39:58 which is this challenge to birthright. And she starts reading, and what strikes me immediately is that he's given it to the junior justice on the team. because, you know, usually they go in order of seniority there, and he's given it to her, he's given it to someone who not only has she been criticized by Donald Trump, but she's known for at least trying to take a narrower path among the conservatives. Now, I'll tell you about Justice Sotomayor in a second. But what she said here was that based on history and tradition,
Starting point is 02:40:28 which is the new conservative pattern there, looking to history and tradition, that there is no analog for these kinds of universal injunctions that they've just come. come in the 20th century and they've skyrocketed and she went on that way. Then she reads from her opinion for about 10 minutes, everyone's quiet, and then Justice Sotomayor, who today, only by virtue of the fact that Neil Gorsuch didn't attend the session, he had another commitment, she was sitting right next to Justice Sotomayor. Justice Sotomayor then goes on for more than 20 minutes saying, you know, the majority, Justice Barrett has just said this has nothing to do with birthright citizenship.
Starting point is 02:41:06 It's only about the power of lower court judges. Don't be fooled. This is about birthright citizenship, and it's about all other kinds of rights that this president or any president can start undercutting. So it was incredibly dramatic there, and it just shows, again, the six-three split, which we've talked about,
Starting point is 02:41:25 Chief Justice John Roberts, does not like to have that on display, but it was so vividly on display. And, again, with someone, Justice Barrett, who sometimes has inched over to the other side, being with them fully. So what's the symbolism of that, Ellie? Well, I would like to propose that this is not a Democrat versus Republican issue.
Starting point is 02:41:43 It just so happens that at the moment, we have Republicans in the White House and Democrats opposing the White House. But if this had happened two years ago, it would have been flipped. In fact, in the closing days of the Biden administration, his Solicitor General made the same argument that the Trump administration just made and won on here. What this is, though, is a seismic shift in power. Doesn't they kind of show that it is a political decision and it is a Democrat versus Republican situation? He contradicted himself. I thought the exact same thing. Power as between the presidency and the courts.
Starting point is 02:42:22 It means that district courts, that's our federal trial level courts. There's 600 or so district court judges around the country can no longer, generally speaking, ban some sort of presidential action, block a presidential action for the whole country. However, the notion that this is the end of car, I'm looking at Justice Jackson here in her dissent. This is our collective demise. The constitutional republic will be no more. That's overstated. I mean, we survived 200 plus years without these nationwide injunctions. They only really started happening in the early 2000s under George W. Bush. So it's going to change what happens in district courts. It's going to give rise to chaos and uncertainty. It's going to be messy and ugly, but it's not going to end our constitutional.
Starting point is 02:43:02 That is not what she said was ending the Constitutional Republic, Elihanic. Do you agree, Steve? I do, and I didn't understand what the hell he was saying. Well, he's saying that all they did was strike down nationwide injunctions, that they didn't reach the merits, and we've gotten along without nationwide injunctions for eons, you know, for 200 years. But as was pointed out, 200 years ago is a vastly different time. from now and the issues are vastly different.
Starting point is 02:43:46 But what about the nationwide injunctions over myth of Preston or the other one? Right. They went judge shopping there to get somebody that would do it nationwide. Exactly. And they're not going to stop. Now, when it comes to birthright citizenship, if a child is born in the United States of a non-U.S. citizen parent. According to the rule back in 1987, when I got married and ended up with two kids,
Starting point is 02:44:34 one of them was born here in the United States, has always traveled on a U.S. pathwork. Is his citizenship going to be in jeopardy? Are they going to push this back to any child ever born here in the United States? of a non-U.S. citizen parent and declare them to be a non-phidiceman? Yes. The nationwide
Starting point is 02:45:10 injunctions have been dissolved with regard to everyone except those who are parties to the individual particular lawsuits. So that means... There's another question. That means... On this immigration.
Starting point is 02:45:24 I was just going to finish. That means that, yeah, they can deport babies suckling at their mother's breasts who are American citizens but the baby isn't. I mean, but the mother isn't as long as they haven't filed a lawsuit. That wasn't
Starting point is 02:45:43 my question here. The individual I'm talking about is over 40. I mean, he was born in 86. Now, what happens to the very small child, 18 months old, of a
Starting point is 02:46:01 person who becomes a naturalized citizens. And the judge, the immigration judge that had him raised their right hand and all the rest of that shit accepted the fact that the now of the 18
Starting point is 02:46:17 month old was now a U.S. citizen. And he has had a passport continuously since he was 18 months old and he's in the neighborhood of 35. What's his status today?
Starting point is 02:46:35 Well, I've got sort of an oblique answer for you. I have before me here. I don't have the particulars. But a Texas man who was born to a U.S. soldier on a U.S. Army base abroad has been deported. Has just gotten deported. Yeah. Now, bear in mind, that is the exact same, that is the exact same scenario that took place. with john mccain i was going to say what about john mccain he was declared eligible to run for
Starting point is 02:47:12 president because he was a native born citizen because of the legal fiction that he was born in the canal zone when in fact he was born in a hospital in panama city not the canal zone this asshole has opened up a weird can of worms don't think we're going to be able to stuff the toothpaste back in the tube no that's that's why i keep saying that's why i keep saying The damage they're doing in such haste is the work of generations, if ever, to correct. There was also a Supreme Court case today about medicine. And on its face, it looks like a ruling for sanity and decency, but you dig down into it, and they just gave unprecedented powers to whalehead dead bear brainworm.
Starting point is 02:48:17 it's flush that out okay let me let's see scrolling scrolling okay it was on preventative care under the Affordable Care Act and
Starting point is 02:48:50 it makes sure that people can receive the ruling says people can continue to receive free preventative services under the ACA and lo and behold Roberts the handmaid and Beer Booth and Brat joined the three sane members of the court for the decision,
Starting point is 02:49:14 and it allows the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force to continue determining which services will be available free of cost to Americans covered under the ACA. Sounds like a win, doesn't it? Well, that's until you figure out that they also declared that the members of that prevent, Services Task Force are inferior officers subject to the whim of the Secretary of DHS. So, here let's paint with a broad brush. We want people to be cognizant of things like type 2 diabetes, so maybe we give free A1C screenings. well Bobby Kennedy now has the power to say who needs those
Starting point is 02:50:20 what we need is clean living and instead make it free for anybody to get a bleach enema who wants one because he can replace that preventative services task force with some of his nutty friends you know June has become the end of June has become a terrifying time in America
Starting point is 02:50:57 at least if you are if you are interested in the court and follow the ongoing devolution of this country it's terrifying Jesus yeah and I get these notifications all the time from my carrier because I'm part of an ACA plan
Starting point is 02:51:22 hey here's these free services for you Roxanne mostly I just ignore them because because I do because they're for the most part annoying but I fully expect now to get an email or a text message saying hi this is so-and-so writing on behalf of Hi Mark could we get could we bring you some Ivermectin to rub on your gums
Starting point is 02:51:53 so yeah oh and uh i just got i just sorry no you go ahead i just got a message from my uh from the health the uh marketplace here in new york saying federal law has just changed it might change your benefits stay tuned yeah i don't know what that's going to mean and you know the the couple of the couple of relatively small things i want to get done i've got to get done this year or there will be no insurance which means it will never happen and there are so many open questions i i don't mean to make it about my issue so to speak um but depending on how pervasive this transphobic spasm becomes hell i wonder will i be able to get will i be able to get a mammogram um will i will will i be able to get
Starting point is 02:53:15 any kind of gynecological services and they are warranted supposed to have an exam here and there but no maybe I mean I wish I had some sort of confidence or hope
Starting point is 02:53:41 that it would be different but I don't I don't see a read to hang I don't see a read to hang those hopes on. Yeah. You know what? At least some certainty. If you're going to screw me,
Starting point is 02:54:05 just tell me up front you're going to screw me. Yeah, don't let it be a surprise. Right. Don't wait for me to ask you if it's in yet. Yeah. Sorry, that was course. You know, I have to tell you, and you're going to think less of me for this.
Starting point is 02:54:21 No, I won't. I've been called, And this is about the second, third, maybe fourth time that I've been called by a big law firm wants me to come work for them. And part of that firm is a union busting firm. Gross. But they pay great. That's the thing. The evil law firms pay good money.
Starting point is 02:54:48 That's the thing. And I know what, Robin, I've just gotten to the point where I'm like, you know what? I know this sounds awful, but sometimes principal just doesn't pay. And I'm sick of being in that position. Yeah, you can't eat a hot steam and bowl of principals, can you? Nope. And you know what? When I go to pay my landlord, hey landlord, would half of my rent, could you take that in principle?
Starting point is 02:55:21 Yeah, I mean, that's my life every blessed month with the power bill, the water bill, the internet bill, the phone bill. the groceries, the gasoline, that giant gaping $1,000 hole from the water pump crisis, yeah. Oh, water pump, yeah. Oh, and thank you, Clarence. A note coming in from Clarence a little bit ago when we were talking about Whiskey Pete. Complex operation. Hexeth knows nothing about history. The Normandy invasion was the most complex military operation in world history.
Starting point is 02:55:59 Land, sea, and air military units from multiple names. nations executed not a flawless but an effective successful mission. That was without the technology available today. The B2 strike in Iran was executed with precision, but it's not on the same level as the D-Day invasion. But it is to Whiskey Pete because, well, he has to keep the tip and probably all the way to the bridge of his nose, nice and oily and orange. And Clarence also sent in, sent this in. Whiskey Pete has now confirmed that the USNS Harvey Milk will be renamed the USNS Oscar V. Peterson. And who is Oscar V. Peterson?
Starting point is 02:56:47 I'll say, do we ask who he is? He was a posthumous recipient of the Medal of Honor in World War II. He kept the ship operational, the USS Neosho, that was attacked by Japanese bombers. credited the saving lives of 1203 of his shipmates before he himself died. And Pete Kegbreath had the nerve to say, We're taking politics out of ship naming. We're not renaming the ship to anything political. It's not about political activists like the previous administration.
Starting point is 02:57:25 Instead, we're renaming the ship after a United States Navy Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, as it should be. I know what Harvey Milk was pretty fucking heroic too and might have gone on to have a long and storied career in the Navy had he not been drummed out under suspicion of homosexuality I'm willing to bet this guy they named it after is a white man regardless of the situation yeah oh and also Robin I tip you for your on-demand history lessons you're not a goose egg tonight oh thank you thank you so much
Starting point is 02:58:04 uh yeah and we weren't a goose like Ralph's challenge got met by Henry. So we're actually But thank you, Jeremy, because that takes us down to 1440 to finish the month of June. That's going to be a tall order for
Starting point is 02:58:24 Monday, but hope springs eternal. And that's pretty much the end of the program, y'all. A reminder, the back porch will continue after this program goes off the air and anyone who is shy about being heard
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