Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, 3 September 2026, Thorn-In-the-Side Thursday
Episode Date: September 4, 2026Speed and coathangers. Those "fambly valyoooz MAGATS" sure know how to do the whole WWJD thing. Arkanstan and Missouristan sprint to the head of the creepy class. Howard Nutlick forgets about dead mil...itary members, even as the MAGATS cheat a grieving military widow out of her benefits. AgSec Brookie Rollins is just sure those prices are gonna come down any day. MAGAT farmers learn their hard lessons.
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Now, as to that password,
yeah, speed run, well, good times being had,
I didn't know such a party down there in Arkansas.
Then with what being, how that's a deeply maggot state,
and they got all them fine upstanding Christian.
and family values down there.
And, yeah, I'm sure people like Reggie and Haley are well aware of this story,
but practically jumped out the pixels at me.
Ah, Jesus.
Yeah, you can't make this stuff up.
there in
Bentonville
which of course is home to
among other places things
Wally World
Wait no this is Missouri
I'm sorry, my bad Missouri
I don't know where I got Bentonville
Sorry
My apologies to the Horn family community
Congregation contingent there in Arkansas
No this is out of
Missouri, just one state north.
Hi, Kanda.
Yeah, apparently it's a
literally a high old time
there in the show me state.
Earlier today,
a fellow named Thomas Ross,
a 37-year-old maggot from Joplin, Missouri.
was arraigned in federal court on charges that he,
oh, golly, you can't make this stuff up.
It's like a Grateful Dead song or something.
Driving that train high on cocaine.
Casey Jones, you better watch your speed.
Don't singing, Roxanne.
Damn it, pay attention.
But no, Thomas Ross of Joplin
tried to get his own campaign manager
to plant some Peruvian marching powder
and or some of Nitwit Niro's favorite recreational chemistry of choice.
That is, of course, Adderall.
in his MAGA rival, the primary rivals, car,
and put it in her car, put it in her purse, don't care,
just plant it on it for God's sakes.
This was in a primary race for the 161st Missouri House District.
Dear God, how many districts do they have in Missouri?
Don't worry about it.
I don't know.
That must be, when the Missouri legislature comes into session,
and that must look like a whole bunch of monkeys trying to work a math problem with all those maggots.
Now he wanted to plant blow and speed on Louise Secker,
because he wanted to make sure that he was the maggot candidate for that house seat.
Mm-hmm.
Speaking to the local law enforcement authorized,
his former campaign manager, Rosses,
said that Thomas Ross handed him a glove with a bag of powder
and a pill stuffed inside
and said,
Oh, hey, could you, could you stash this on Louise for me?
just put it in her purse, put it in her car, I don't care.
And they sent it off to the state crime lab where they did.
Law enforcement did confirm that it was cocaine and adderall.
You know, this doesn't sound like one of those situations like way, way back when Richard Pryor was talking about Leon Spinks getting busted for cocaine.
You know, Leon Spinks was busted for 50 cents worth of cocaine.
Have you ever seen 50 cents worth of cocaine?
50 cents worth of cocaine milk before you get the paper unwrapped.
No.
And what 37-year-old Thomas Ross thought was, he told his campaign manager,
this would be extreme egg on the face for Louise Secker.
Mm-hmm.
I guess his campaign manager wasn't quite as compliant or dedicated to victory as Thomas Ross was.
No, no.
That House District is maggoty as hell.
It's right down kind of in the corner where Missouri,
butts up against Kansas and Oklahoma Stan.
The last election there, the district was won by a fellow name, someone named Lane Roberts.
Could be a guy, could be a girl, could be non-binary, not in the maggot party, no, quit that.
But won two-to-one, Republican to Democrat votes.
and with him Ross having won the August 4th Missouri primary in that district
here's the funsy no Democrat even bothered to sign up to take the ass whipping
no no and so Ross is the only one on the ballot
and the chairman of the Missouri maggots won Peter Kendon
was, oh for God's sakes, drop out of the race.
These here allegations are serious and deeply troubling Uncle Jed?
I added the Uncle Jed part.
Good times. Good times.
Yeah, shucks all. It's just Christian family values.
Maga politics, isn't it?
It's not like anybody was going to snort on the cocaine,
although the question does arise how Thomas Ross managed to find a Coke dealer there down in that far
and misbegotten corner of Missouri stand.
I mean, did he go up and drive the mean street of Kansas City asking random people on the street?
Hey, anybody know where I can buy some cocaine?
Maybe he got the Adderall pill from, I don't know, maybe he's got a kid with ADHD or something, but, well, now, I wonder, I wonder if Ms. Louise might be able to, oh, that's a maggot problem, what do I care?
And somewhere, I like to think, there's a Democrat who thought, you know, briefly,
thought about running for the post.
Nah, I'm just going to get my ass kicked.
No sense in throwing good money after bad and throwing money down a rat hole.
I wonder if that person's sitting around and going,
Son of it!
I could have won.
I could have been a contender.
I don't know.
I don't know.
So I thought that was just a fun little starting place for Thorn in the side Thursday.
Mm-hmm.
Ah, and by the way, it is a toasty 89 degrees here in the fabulous horn studios at the magnificent Kincaid Mansion this afternoon, so things might get a little bit schvitzie, sticky even.
Cocaine!
It's running all around 161st Missouri House District.
and I have seen some silly things over the course of my years behind this microphone.
And we've even talked from time to time, especially when, well, David in Oregon and Billable Rick and I and Steve talking about the joys of law school.
and reading those fun cases deep in the chapters of proceron torts.
Well, she didn't do this in iambic pentameter, but some of the gone.
And maybe the federal judge in this case came to this conclusion,
having seen what the maggot Supreme Court, our most puissant dread sovereign Supreme
Catholic
Majesties
did relative
to
nitwit
Nero's
ballroom
plans
not long back
but
Judge
Anna C.
Reyes
who was
in fact
a
Biden
appointee
of U.S.
District
judge
there in the
D.C. area
just through
the luck of the
draw
was assigned a
case brought by plaintiffs against nitwit Nero in regard to his plan because God knows in the
midst of everything else we've got going on we really need a championship level golf course
in the greater D.C. area in this case East Potomac golf links. Oh my aching back. So
New It Nero is an enemy of trees and things that are green and growing as well as wind turbines.
Maybe that's why he likes his Scottish courses so much because they're lynx courses and it's not much more than wind and some heather and some grass and some sand and whatnot.
But at a hearing earlier today, Judge Reyes appeared to not be particularly serious.
thrilled to be here in the case.
And
Kyle
Cheney,
who does legal affairs for
Tiger Beat on the Potomac
Politico,
noted that Judge Reyes
did not seem to be particularly happy.
And she's
issued some good decisions
that were later upended by the
Maggot Supreme Court, but
her reasoning has seemed to be sound.
But the plaintiffs in this
case wanted to stop a bunch of wholesale clear-cutting.
And Judge Reyes said, according to Kyle Cheney,
she made clear she's not parks and wreck
because, well, she's a, I'm sure she's a constitutional,
not an original, but a strict constructionist.
She said she also doesn't want to police the administration's
management of trees.
at the golf course, saying, quote,
quote, I am not the Lorax.
I do not speak for the trees.
Meanwhile, the petty foggers from the DOJ who showed up said,
oh, well, you're wondering,
um, uh, them trees was all dead,
or they was invasive, or they was hazardous.
Along the way, she also made reference to, uh,
Judge Reyes did.
Uh, she made reference to some lyrics from,
Alanis Morissette
mentioned a
random caller demanding her removal
from the bench. My God,
maybe she's getting up and watching
C-SPAN Washington Journal along with
Todd and
Brother Bishop Steve
all around great guy down in
Georgia stand.
She made reference to George Washington,
cutting down a cherry tree.
but the maggots are making it hard for her to not be the Lorax and frankly I wish we had some judges who were feeling a little bit more
lauraxy because if she doesn't speak for the trees well who the fuck will
I mean Earth Justice would that's that's one of those non-profits that I really really do love and respect
their motto because the earth needs a good lawyer
and being a
Trump joint
shits going sideways in a hurry
there's
at East Potomac links
there's a
subsidence of land
and water problems
and
it's just another
ginormous Donald Trump
bona fide real life
no kidding
genuine screw up because that's what Donald Trumpses does best.
And all of her odd references came in the first 90 seconds of her remarks, according to
Kyle Cheney.
Jesus.
Maybe it feels like a fool's errand to her because she could make a perfectly well-reasoned ruling
only to see Clarence pubes on the Coke can Fappy Thomas and the entirely
utterly, totally, completely, criminally corrupt,
Sammy bad breath,
along with, you know, frat boy Neil and beer boof and blah-bub-brat
and his law clerk squee and quiff and the handmaid and old balls and strikes.
Jump in to say, no-uh, Donald Trump's our orange daddy,
and he gets to do whatever he wants to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got a lot of thorns for this here.
Thorn in the side Thursday.
Oh, there's where the Arkansas confusion came from.
I knew there was an Arkansas story.
Arkansas?
Yeah.
Missouri was blowing speed.
Arkansas is a different thing altogether.
A former member of the Arkansas
House of Representing is, well, apparently he's decided to make Max Miller look like a real good guy.
Trigger warning.
Content warning.
Now, with no doubt whatsoever, Austin McCollum is very likely a good God-fear and upstanding Bible-believing Christ-centered,
evil, evangelical, gun-demand-mentalist, ammo, sexual Christian maggot.
and therefore he's facing three felony charges
those three felony charges for the 35-year-old
remember young Mr. Ross there in Missouri was 37
Austin here is 35
maybe he's just hit that midlife crisis or something
No, I don't think it's a midlife crisis.
I think he's probably just a typical maggot asshole who hates women just like his orange daddy.
Those three felonies are second-degree domestic battery, first-degree false imprisonment,
and aggravated assault on a family or household member.
He was arrested the 1st of August.
The story's just now percolating into the national consciousness.
Here's the thing, though, and I don't understand how these things play out the way they do.
Three felonies that include, among other things, telling his wife to kill herself,
saying that he would go and grab a firearm when she said she was feeling suicidal.
and this did happen in Benton County Circuit Court there in Arkansas.
Reagan Ashley McCollum, 34, said she had been struggling with suicidal ideation.
And she at one point said, I think our children would be better off without me.
He said, well, do it! I'll get the gun!
he's the nominee for Benton County Judge
in Arkansas
that's the top elected official there
in any given
Arkinstanian County
he's got no opponent in November neither
and
Jesus this story
he of course ran on his family values
putting out a photograph of him
with his good godfearing
etc wife and
and they're two youngans
pretty well off
live in a farmhouse-style McMansion
of about $900,000 in value there in Bentonville
with the split-up
McCollum has moved into a $1.5 million
McMansion also there in Bentonville.
On August the 25th, Benton County Circuit Judge Zolley Duncan
entered a two-year protective order
against McCollum
and because of what he
allegedly did
his wife said we returned home from a wedding
and Austin got mad and started throwing things at me
I guess he got
shit-faced at the wedding
and
he went on to trap his wife in their bedroom
beat her with a wire hanger
threw her onto the bed
put both knees onto her back
and then slammed a door over and over on her hand
while she was trying to get away.
He drove his knee into the back of her neck
and just about choked her out.
In her petition she said there was blood everywhere
and I couldn't see.
He grabbed my hair and slammed my head to the ground multiple times.
He only quit beating her when he said,
All right, get up and go clean up the blood.
and that's when she ran away and called 911.
The deputies who showed up, of course, this is predictable, said,
he appeared to be intoxicated, had blood all over his arms and legs and injuries to his knuckles.
Really? Injuries to his knuckles.
He resigned his house district eight seat on August the 5th,
and there will be a special election to fill.
the remainder of his term, but
he's apparently
still on the
ballot for county judge.
But of course,
Arkansas
Governor Jethrine Bodein
as well as the
Speaker of the House, Brian Evans, said
you gotta resign, which he did.
You gotta get a county judge race,
which he hasn't yet.
And here's the punchline.
I mean, that's a, Roxanne, do better.
With all of that foregoing, when the deputies came and arrested this good Christian man,
they let him spend the night in the joint and turned him loose on $10,000 bond.
Damn near killed her, $10,000 bond.
And probably put the property up, you know, as, as, as,
collateral for his promise to appear.
Well, Your Honor, I've entered into a program to address my problems with alcohol.
Hopefully, hopefully that, I'm making this up, by the way.
But between a little bit of time in the Grippy Sock Hotel and my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ,
maybe I won't beat the hell out of my wife no more.
They have a divorce pending.
He countersued her for divorce.
Sometimes you get the idea that the churches are failing,
the people that they're supposed to be pastoring God.
And there's some news coming out of the Death Star,
and by that I mean, the tower there at Fox News TV Radio Rwanda,
Kind of some shocking news.
After 12 and a half years with the network,
with nothing in the way of explanation or fanfare,
and not even queuing up time to say goodbye by what,
Sandra Brightman and Andre O'Cailly.
No.
Fox has.
handed an apple in a road map to Maria Bartaromo.
That happened today.
Here's the heartfelt and touching note of goodbye that Fox released.
Effective today.
Now let's do it in our Rupy and Lackland voice, shall we?
Effective today, Maria Betty Romo is no longer with folks' news media.
We thank Maria for her work over the last 12 and a half years
and wish her all the best on her next chapter.
That's it.
Goodbye now.
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
You got to wonder what she done.
So, hmm.
Goodbye.
Goodbye, Maria.
I'm sure some,
some near-do-well Maggot 5-0-1 C.
3 Gryft will be just waiting for you and happy to have you on board.
Hey, maybe you can go and get hired at Onan, the network that spills its news on the ground,
or maybe news muck.
Or maybe you can go to work for the man who looks like rancid hot dog water smells.
You know, Stevie 3 shirts over at Real America's voice.
You got the pipes for it.
You got to wonder.
Was it the dead boy or the live girl with Maria?
Live by the Rupert?
Dau by the Rupert.
Right over at the Atlantic, Tom Nichols said,
Not exactly an emotional farewell.
No, that's an almost Vulcan farewell, isn't it?
There's our obligatory Star Trek reference.
Oh, and Ralphs has added another $25 to the,
to the matching money for Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge.
Thank you, Ralph. Thank you very kindly.
I guess it's vacation time again.
Next week, Canckel's Caligula is taking wing
because the Irish Open golf tournament
is being held at Dunbeg,
which is a golf property that he owns and has ruined.
That's in County Clare on the Emerald Isle.
Well, he'll be there on the 12th and the 13th of September.
I'm sure there will be plenty of eager camera shutterbugs there.
get pictures of him and Natalie Harpy, the diaper nanny.
He calls it, Trump International Gufflings, Ireland.
So I guess he leaves on the 12th.
But that, of course, means that, well, we already know he's not going to be at ground zero on set.
September the 11th for the 25th, 25th year commemoration of those attacks by our dear, dear, dear friends and partners in peace, the Saudis.
And he wanted to stand up and bark and grunt and hoot and bray and speechify and pontificate,
politicians don't yet to do that at the 9-11 commemoration,
especially not a quarter-century mark.
And so he said,
I just go to the Pentagon instead.
My whiskey peel will let me talk.
Yeah.
Of course, this isn't a vacation.
He'll say, oh, it's work.
Yeah.
It's definitely work.
And the funny thing is he's busy before September 11th, too,
because he has to be in Dallas.
which brings to mind the words of Jimmy Buffett from the A1A album,
if you ever get the chance to go to Dallas, take it from me, pass it by.
But nitwit Nero is going to be there, him and Natalie Harpy, the diaper nanny,
because he called for a midterm Republican convention, September 9th and 10th.
It's a dumb idea.
but hey
every maggot
who wants to be within the
magatosphere
has to be there
which means that's two days that
those stupid repacious
fascists aren't out
on the campaign trail
I expect that that
well let's see
the ninth and the tenth that would be
what
just looking at the calendar real quick
that would be Thursday and Friday of next week,
which tells me that there should be some real zany clips for us to use those couple of days
because they'll say any number of things to try to please their orange daddy.
Thanks for sharing, Ralphs.
and thank you for adding $25 to the desperately needed $150,
well, no, the response money.
$150 brings back more than $2 to 1 now.
So thank you, Ralphs, and thank you, if anybody will pretty please,
jump in and help us knock this $25 down.
It's the first of the month.
It's, ah, it's brutal.
Not a Star Trek goodbye, says Lee.
While a Vulcan validation could be live long and prosper,
I believe the Klingon style is more appropriate for a fox firing.
Butah, today is a good day to die.
Signed Lee at Memory Alpha.
Right, you are.
Maria, today is a good day to die.
You're fired.
I like that a lot, as a matter of fact.
Yeah, that's fun.
that story go.
Dag on it.
Yeah, thank you, Ralph.
September 11th is a week from tomorrow.
I saw a headline saying that
Nitwit Niro is blowing through his
$400 million MAGA Inc.
pack money.
That's going to come as a real blow
to John Thune there,
who was hoping he'd get a big chunk of it
to run ads in
TakeSass in behalf
of the
philandering crook and
cover-up artist for a pedophile.
I'm talking to, of course, Ken Paxton.
Yeah.
Oh, and I mentioned Fox.
Earlier today, she didn't even merit
an appearance on real Fox.
This was instead Fox business,
which I don't think anybody watches it
except for maybe the people who pull clips off of it.
They trotted out Brookie Rollins.
She of the,
an American can eat good on $3 a day,
a piece of chicken,
a couple of pieces of broccoli,
and a snack.
Yeah.
They hauled her out to yell that beef prices are on the downturn,
and everything's going to be okay.
Wow, this is dumb.
Very focused also in making sure that food.
is affordable. And we've got really good news on that as well. You know, for the, I think, the lowest
price in five years, the numbers we got in yesterday, chicken breast, pork, berries, butter, cheese,
et cetera, is all down to five-year lows. And even beef is coming down. We had about a 2% drop
a couple of weeks ago, and that's the biggest drop in five years in beef. So all in all, really...
Yeah, beef prices came down when people stopped buying beef, because,
they were afraid they were going to get served up some mystery meat.
Are you ready for your mystery meat?
No, that was mystery date.
Yeah.
I got a nerd.
Never mind.
Yeah, all those prices of things that aren't safe to eat now.
Well, yeah, those prices are coming down, brookie.
Uh-huh.
Jesus.
This is another fun one
To go with the farm crisis
Yeah
Those poor farmers
They had no idea that they were going to
Take it in the shorts again
After having taken it in the shorts
With the first Trump maladministration
Poor babies
Officially fucked around
We have officially found the fuck out now, guys
I am on the verge of bankruptcy
I am a Republican
I voted for this
administration, but my patience is running thin.
And it's just a big shot in the gut, right? Here we are doing exactly what we're supposed to.
The same program that we got our grant through is no longer funded, and we've just been left to
the winds. I don't have anything to say to Donald Trump.
Us helping Argentina and importing beef from Argentina, it's not to consumers.
We got our, I've stolen from us, and nobody gives a day.
Be patient. The farmer is going to be better than ever.
well you better hurry up
it's all gone
everything is gone
I never thought
I was going to lose this much money
this
this fast
I like the first guy
well we fucked around
and we found out
on the other hand
I kind of like this guy
he's somebody he's a farmer
who actually had
the
sense not to vote for nitwit Nero and well he's got a message for his maga pals in
in Maga land who are suffering now.
Society when if I voted for someone now all of a sudden they do something I don't like now
all of a sudden it's my fault because I voted for them.
So just...
I need some of you farmers together around because watching y'all discover that your
customers are also human beings with values has been fucking fascinating.
Post after post today, I've seen nothing other than I don't understand why who I voted for matters.
I'm just over here trying to sell beef.
Listen, sweetheart, you voted with your values, and now they're shopping with theirs.
That's it.
That's the mystery.
And when somebody asks you, are you blue dot in your immediate response is, I don't discuss politics?
Well, that was not the fucking question, because here's what I think some of you genuinely do not understand.
For you, apparently, politics was something that you did for 20 minutes in a voting booth,
and then went back to feeding cattle.
Everybody else, the consequences of what you voted for followed them home.
People lost jobs.
Families got ripped apart by immigration enforcement.
Women watched their reproductive rights fucking disappear.
LGBTQ plus people watch politicians debate whether their families and identities deserve legal protection.
People watch federal programs get cut.
Institutions got gutted.
Tariffs shake businesses and raised costs.
And communities got treated like collateral fucking damage.
And you're standing there in a pile of cow shit with a rib-eye going,
but what does that have anything to do with my beef?
You. You are what it has to do with your beef.
Everybody on this side is saying that your cow voted for Trump.
We know the cow was innocent. Frankly, at this point, that cow may have exercised better judgment.
People are deciding that they don't want their money going into the pocket of somebody who helped put the people hurting them into power.
It's just capitalism, baby.
And the wildest part is farmers already lived through this lesson once.
Did you not learn the first time?
Trump launched a trade war in his first term.
Ritalatory tariffs hammered American agriculture exports.
and the federal government responded,
with giving you tens of billions of dollars in aid.
You all already touched the stove.
The stove burned the shit out of you.
The government literally had to come over with a bag of money and say,
sorry, sorry about the stove.
And then some of you apparently looked at that scar and said,
you know what, I bet that stove has changed.
You waddled over in your shit kickers and touched the motherfucker again.
So when somebody asked if you're blue dot before buying your beef,
stop acting like you stumbled upon some incomprehensible new economic theory.
You made a political choice based on what mattered to you.
And now we are going to make an economic choice based on what matters to us.
The difference is you apparently thought that your vote only affected everybody else's life.
Everybody else's choices weren't supposed to affect yours.
Well, welcome to the free market.
Turns out that invisible hand can give you the middle finger too.
Well, I think I'm going to give him a ramelama ding dong.
Mm-hmm.
Somebody needs to be maybe having that talk with a lot of the...
Standing there in your shit kickers and a pile of cow shit with a rib eye in your hand.
Please don't talk.
No, I can't afford a steak, but if I ever can afford a ribby again,
I don't want to be thinking about that, buddy.
Pretty please?
Yeah.
But speaking of tearing families apart in that clip,
Miles Taylor earlier today in an article for the defiance substack
noted something that the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel,
those are the same clowns who said that anybody who ever asked Nitwit Nero what time it was
does anybody really know what time it is?
No.
25 or 6 to 4.
well they
they now
enjoy executive privilege
for that conversation
but the
Office of Legal Counsel
has published an opinion
that says
that states have to
snitch
on
immigrants
if they want to have
federal money for TANF
or SSI
Temporary
assistance for needy families, supplemental security income, and have to report any
suspected undocumented immigrant. We're not talking about a criminal. We're just talking about
somebody who's here undocumented, and otherwise the NITWitt Nero administration will cut off
TANF and SSI funds to that state. Now, the pathetic part of that is it probably won't
affect most maggot states because they're eagerly collaborative.
with the Vichy, I mean, Trump government.
But in blue states that try to protect human rights, at least to some degree,
this means starving kids to punish states,
Miles Taylor in the defiant substact, saying,
the families receiving these benefits are mostly American citizens,
and the majority of TANF recipients are children.
So the administration is not threatening to cut off benefits to people here illegally.
It can't because they don't.
receive any. Instead, they're literally threatening to take food away from American children
and rent money away from their parents, disabled veterans, and elderly widows in any state
whose governor refuses to become an ice goon informant. Once again, of course, the cruelty
is the point. We're talking about $16.4 billion per year, and there's a gun to the head of every
governor in America and the hostages are hungry children. Taylor is saying that
Tangerine Tiberius is going to starve poor kids. The states don't help with mass
deportation. The sadism is breathtaking and it's also completely on brand.
We are at the end of the first hour of the program and a lot of this is
the rest of the program is unfortunately quite similar.
Let's see.
Some maggot court will say that it's okay to starve children.
On the other hand, a U.S. District Judge in D.C.
has ruled that it's okay to force-feed a prisoner
and in this case it's the Afghan man
who murdered one national guardsman
and maimed and wounded another
Ramanullah
Lakanawal has been on a hunger strike
at his court appearances he's shown up in a wheelchair
gaunt and starving
and U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta of the D.C. district
said, sure, go ahead.
Force feeding.
Quote, to preserve defendant Ramanola Lockwant's life,
or to prevent a foreseeable deterioration in his condition,
that if not treated is likely to lead to death, replacement, maintenance, and care, defendants feeding,
tube when medically necessary in lab work relating to the administration of nutrition.
Our friends who are in nursing in the Horn Family Community Congregation will recognize that this is,
what they're talking about here is an NG tube, nasogastric tube,
goes in through the nose and down the asycephabstic tube, goes in through the nose,
and down the esophagus.
Not pleasant.
But they don't want this federal judge,
who's not a bad federal judge,
doesn't want somebody starving to death on their watch.
Judge Meta said that an NG tube
or intravenous feeding is okay
or feeding through an already estabell.
tube connected to his stomach.
The only thing
the judge didn't let the maggots
in charge of this
shithole do is perform
surgery on him to install
a feeding tube
into his stomach.
Let's remember
that Robinula
Lock and Wall
came to the United States
not a wild-eyed
radical, but
a trained killer.
trained by the forces, the military forces of the United States of America
to do our dirty work while we were in Afghanistan.
Nasty stuff.
But he collaborated with us,
and the determination was made that he deserved to not be murdered by the Taliban
for having associated himself with the United States military.
And he came over here,
and eventually murdered a member of the West Virginia National Guard,
specialist Sarah Bextram,
and tried to murder Air Force Staff Sergeant Andrew Wolfe.
He's facing 17 charges.
He's pleaded not guilty.
And one gets the idea that he would very much rather just die.
And of course, Afghan nationals who did collaborate with us have also been removed from this country.
People who didn't shoot members of the West Virginia National Guard like Lockenwall did.
So it's a federal crime.
I'm guessing it carries the death penalty.
And the irony, well, I can't help to be struck by it.
Judge Meta, a Barack Obama appointee, has previously turned down maggot requests for non-consensual nutrition.
But now Judge Meta says, yeah, give him an NG tube, because we might have to execute him.
And we want to keep him alive until we decide to crucify him horizontally.
Of course, I have no faith in this gang of punks and thugs in the prison system.
I'm sure they'll try to figure out a way to get some bacon grease into his NG tube.
Because they think that's real funny-like.
So I guess they probably already shoved the tube up his nose and down into his gut,
and the order stays in effect until October the 28th.
Well, if you're Lackenwall's lawyer, how do you appeal that?
How do you say, Your Honor?
My client is charged with doing heinous things, and he would rather die than be horizontally crucified.
He'd rather starve to death.
And no court's going to say, well, okay, yeah, let him get in touch with his inner Bobby Sands,
because it's, well, it's bad PR, isn't it?
and of course it would not have happened
it absolutely would not have happened
had nitwit Nero
not
insisted on the National Guard
being on the streets picking up trash
and raking leaves and whatnot
in D.C. and had of course
pill-pushing Patty Morrissey
the Trenton Troll
Faddy Patty
not leapt at the opportunity
to send West Virginia
to DC on a fool's errand.
Yeah.
No, Ralphs, I didn't.
What?
Did you know that Donnie's making a new TV show?
Oh.
What is it?
Who wants to change Donnie's deity?
Nah, couldn't be that.
He's got Natalie Harpy for that.
Gross.
Just gross.
And we have this out of Taliban.
Turns out that whatever it is we're doing over in the Iran such as isn't a war.
I guess that's why Nick Wittnero's been calling it,
it's an excursion because he heard incursion
and his sick, twisted, dying brain heard excursion.
you know, like when I go to Ireland to watch a golf tournament.
Jesus.
This is the story of a widow.
A woman named Libby Klinner.
She was married to Air Force Major John Alex Klinner.
Major Klinner was involved in a crash in Iraq that killed him.
And Mrs. Klinner cannot get.
get the benefits to which she is entitled as a war widow.
She went to Instagram to post about it this past Saturday.
Major Clinter had just been promoted.
He was 33 years old and had made Major.
And he had been deployed for less than a week.
He was aboard a refueling aircraft, so when that fucker crashed, that had to be horrible.
He left behind a pair of seven.
seven-month-old twins and a two-year-old little boy and a wife who doesn't quite know what she's going to do now.
But the refueler, the tanker plane, was in what was nominally considered friendly airspace,
Mrs. Clinner noting, so not only was my husband killed in a war he never wanted to participate in,
but now the benefits were left with are being dictated by semantics and public perception.
she put up a picture of herself holding their babies.
Yeah, she doesn't get war widow pay
because her hubby wasn't in a war.
She went on and said no one joins the military because they want to go to war.
Service members don't enjoy being deployed.
They chose to defend their country knowing they could be sent to war,
but hoping they won't be.
They also joined with the assumption that a war would be the last
resort, which was not the case in Iran.
So, actually,
this woman gets a lot of sympathy
from me. She knows
what time it is, and she knows
who really killed
her husband. And it's not
somebody pushing the button on a missile.
No.
It wasn't even friendly
fire. It was just a crash.
And the people who killed
her husband and the rest of that crew,
well, their names are
whiskey Pete Kegbreath and Donald Trump
and every other
and oh and let's not forget
Psycho Bibi Netanyahu
who by the way according to the prediction markets
has a 28% chance
of still being Prime Minister
after the October elections
in Israel
his opponent
is apparently at 48%
Ms. Clinter went on and said her casualty assistance officer
Can you imagine having that for your MOS?
Told her that, well, there are additional benefits that can't be given
because the Iran conflict has not been declared a war.
The missing benefits are combat pay related
and were missing from his final paycheck.
Support the troops, y'all!
Jesus.
Well, then on Tuesday she posted an update, Mrs. Clinner did,
and thanked people for their kind responses to her post
and said that apparently some alarm bells rang at Air Force Central
and that she got, she was contacted by the director of mortuary affairs and said,
we are initiating an audit of benefits to ensure we receive all the,
to ensure that we receive all that we're entitled to.
An Air Force spokes creep, however, who did not resign their commission when NITWIT
started this evil war, said that,
officials quote, well, they spoke with Mrs. Clinter, quote,
to ensure she is receiving all eligible benefits she and her family are entitled to,
as well as ensure all her questions are fully addressed.
We understand this matter has been difficult for Ms. Clinter and her family,
and we are committed to addressing her concerns with care and respect.
We remain committed to providing clear information and continued support to Ms. Clenner,
as well as the families of the airmen who died in the KC-135 crash.
Who-ah!
We're not going to give them another goddamn dime, hu-ah.
I hope she bulldogs those bastards to the ends of the earth.
And speaking of the military, this is a little weird.
You may recall a few weeks ago we were talking about how the DUI hire, Whiskey Pete Kegbreath,
can't be bothered much to
well
actually be secretary
of the Department of Defense
but instead
is obsessed with
how erect
military penises get
isn't that just gross
to talk about
ew
but apparently this is a bit of a problem
whiskey
pee wants a high tea military
and so
after two months
of putting together
instructions for how to create this
hot tea military
they were then posted online
and they
well they had a kind of a
a Liz trust moment
because they didn't outlast
ahead of lettuce
with or without the cyclosphora
No
yesterday
the Defense Department
published
clinical guidelines
to screen members of the military
for testosterone deficiencies
and by today
it was gone
I don't know if anybody caught a screenshot
but speaking to Reuters
some nameless faceless
functionary at the Pentagon says
well these were temporarily
rescinded to allow for updates
no idea of what it is they want
to update
maybe it's the fact that whiskey
Pete wants to give testosterone injections
to
women in the military
too
Pete I know you're drunk
as shit but did you think this one through
buddy
do you really want
you really want the women in the military
sprouting
and sprouting facial hair and having their voices deeping,
probably deeper than yours, Whiskey Pete.
Because those things happen.
And, of course, the Pentagon itself is,
we don't know when the guidelines are going to go back up.
I don't really know much of anything these days.
Can't get Whiskey Pete sober long enough.
added I made that part up
apparently they did
after saying that they wanted to
provide the testosterone to women
they did kind of do
an about face on that
saying instead that
they would be tested
women in the military for
fatigue
oh I do believe I have to lie back on the
fainting couch
bullshit
and they'd also
be tested for menstrual disruption
and other signs of hormonal
dysregulation
or
relative energy deficiency
in sport
that's so he can say that the girlies
aren't strong enough to be in the military
because that's what his weirdo preacher from Idaho
or where the fuck ever he comes from
believes
need to be home pregnant and barefoot
and getting
getting their man a samich in a beer.
And this paragraph is just a lulu.
Testosterone treatment for women would be considered only in a narrow circumstance
for postmenopausal women experiencing an unusually low level of sexual desire.
What does a woman's sexual desire have to do with her service in the military?
Women's health is important to me, but that sounds...
Well, you know, if they ain't got no sexual desire,
can't be a satisfying the men in the military neither.
I suspect this is all a problem of their own making, of course.
And the guidance was probably taken down because, well,
given those fragile, insecure male egos,
that testosterone's gender affirming care,
and we can't we only know vendor for him in the military god damn it i tell you oh no that's for that
because we're into training and not trannies that's what whiskey pete's been barking about so if you add one and
one and carry the 12 that probably explains the situation but the thing is given a low-tie soldier
testosterone doesn't do anything for resilience
No.
And it can also cause red blood cell counts to spike.
That can lead to clotting disorders.
It can also make a man infertile and fuck up his sleep and his blood pressure and his mood.
And bless her heart, when Whiskey Pete first went public with his little plan,
Primal of Giapal of Washington said
This, by the way, is gender-affirming care.
Which, remember, we can't have in the military.
Because all those trans guys were out there outperforming their cis-male counterparts.
That was in the Air Force study.
That had to be a little bit humiliating.
I would be remiss, of course, if I didn't note that this is a conversation radio program.
And if you'd like to call in, if there's something on your mind, feel free to use the stress line.
844-843-66-8-44-8-4-4-4-the-horn.
Got a note from Flavio, nasogastric tube.
When I was a kid of two or three, I swallowed something.
I shouldn't have some ink or cleaning product.
I can't recall.
And I was rushed to the hospital and had one of those plunge down my nose and gullet to have my stomach flushed out irrigated.
My parents had a fright, and I remember it being distinctly unpleasant.
Oh, we had something similar like that with Berg back when he was little.
My father took a handful of medications every morning.
he was post quadruple bypass, so he had all the drugs you have to take after that.
And one of those was a curious shade of blue.
And I just happened to glance over at Ferg, who, to be fair, got into everything.
And, well, damn if his tongue wasn't that very same color of blue.
And we looked through, and it was a hundred thousand.
heart medication. It could have, well, it could have proved fatal to a little three-year-old
fellow, about that age, two, three. And so off we rushed to the emergency room, where I explained
things to the personnel there. And, well, they brought him back to a room. They didn't
use an NG tube for the, to flush that, Flavie.
They wanted to make him yak.
There went dinner in the Central Daylight Times Zone.
So they gave him activated charcoal to drink.
It did not take long before that worked.
And then, of course, there's a happy ending.
Sorting through that sort of result.
It can be called a happy ending.
Turned out the pill was the same color as a packet of...
Nutra sweet.
Yeah, we made him throw up everything but his toenails because he had eaten without really opening the package, a packet of Nutra sweet.
Ah, memories, memories, memories.
And yeah, at the halfway point of the program, we are for the second program in a row, a goose egg.
and that makes things like keeping this program on the air difficult.
Fingers crossed, if we can knock down 150 bucks,
it all gets doubled plus a bit more, courtesy of Routts
and the sponsor of our first of the month Memorial Challenge,
and gets us down to $110 more than a week behind for funding.
So, you know, this is a chance to double your money.
And I know everything's tough right now.
So tough.
I mean, I walked out of Kroger's the other day with a carton of milk, jug a half and half,
some kitty litter, and one other little thing.
50 bucks i think i told david about that last one thing a four into five one time yeah that's basically 12 dollars per item
and i don't know if you notice but back when i played that clip from brookie rollins she said making food more
affordable well she's not careful she'll get she'll get as fired as maria barterromo
affordability is a made-up word it's totally a made-up word they never use
I used it until I got into office.
Ah, Jesus.
This is an interesting story.
You don't hear this just every day.
An ice goon has been indicted.
Really?
By the Justice Department and everything.
Christian Castro has been indicted for making false statements
about a shooting in January.
and, well, the problem is
the indictment's still under seal
because, well,
Christian Castro has to be arrested.
And for all we know, little Mark Wayne Mullen,
the Oklahoma Tard Chaser,
well, he was part of Operation Metro Surge,
and then after he gave him,
his false statements he went on the lamb.
He's charged also,
are accused of shooting and wounding
Julio Cesar Sosa Salis,
an undocumented Venezuelan
National on the 14th of June
of this year. Jesus.
Here's the funny thing.
It ain't funny.
Nitwit Niro's goons
rushed
to defend Christian
Castro, but in the news account of the indictment, the New York Times, the Times writes,
but in contrast to the administration's position in other shootings, federal officials publicly
distanced themselves from Mr. Castro in the weeks that followed.
Criminal charges against Mr. Sosa-Selis and another man were dropped.
Mr. Castro was suspended and video footage emerged.
that contradicted key aspects of the initial federal account.
In other words, the video made liars of them.
In Hennepin County, Minnesota, prosecutors charged Castro with second-degree assault in May.
That month, he was arrested for about three months,
and Texas Governor Greg Asbot refused to sign off
his extradition. That led Minnesota to sue Abbott in federal court. The federal court then
sided with Abbott. Abbott turned loose this homicidal maniac, and so he is on the loose,
and Texas will not lift a finger to find him. And hence the federal grand jury indictment
of making false statements, not trying to murder another human being.
There's a significant distinction.
And Ralph says, come on, people.
Thank you.
Kayla and Tegan are just downright depressed at this point.
And I mentioned the story of Mrs. Clinner
because of something that the JD Egg did recently, said recently.
Judy Vance.
at the microphone, decided to unburden himself of his thoughts about what's going on in this God-forsaken, what, quagmire with Iran.
Yeah, earlier today, a reporter in D.C. asked the J.D. Ag, whether the war that's now more than six months old might,
be over by the time voters go to the polls. The answer was, well, I wonder if Mrs.
Clenner has seen this. Given this administration has put timelines out there before,
what you just said about no negotiations happening with Iran, will this war be over by the time
of the midterm elections? Well, Caitlin, again, I don't, I wouldn't call it a war. Right now,
there is no active shooting. I recognize there have been places where this is flared up.
major combat operations
again major combat operations lasted
for about six weeks
it's not a war
people are dying
uh mrs clenner is a widow
and mothered a pair of twins and a two year old boy
but it's not really a war
18 people are dead but it's
not really a war
uh when
when he heard about
these remarks Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
that said, your administration just killed a six-year-old boy and at least four other people at a family wedding in Iran.
Sounds like war to me, because that's a thing we did.
We're really good.
From Afghanistan to Iraq to Iran, we're really good at bombing the be Jesus out of a wedding
because we think it's something dangerous.
Maybe it's the music.
We are so culturally illiterate
relative
to Muslim countries
Asian countries generally
and it's just been a shitty day
for members of the maggot administration
not the least of whom
is
well
Howard Nutt
The Commerce Secretary, who himself was asked about the not a war.
This happened on CNBC.
Jesus, can't, well, nutlick's going to nutlick.
The growth rate and the reduction in the deficit will not only stabilize the bond market,
will bring rates down.
I think the way the president is playing,
Iran, right? There's not. There haven't been American deaths. It's really just an economic chokeout, which the administration...
Did you catch that? You haven't been any deaths.
It is now executing more broadly, and I think it'll be very effective. So I'm very optimistic that the bond market will treat us very well. It may take over the next couple of months, but you're going to see rates stabilized. You're going to...
Oh, well, as long as the bond market rate stabilized, everything's good.
Nobody's dead.
Uh-oh.
Well, even Nitwit Niro had to get into the act,
triping on tripe social, which means that Natalie Harpy, the diaper nanny, typed it for him.
The Secretary Nutlick had Venezuela on his mind when he said nobody was killed.
18 people were killed in Iran.
This guy, I mean, look, they're all so,
at the very least, psychopaths, quite possibly, and they're sweating bullets over this stupid war.
While at the same time, they're also sitting and listening to Nitwit Niro talking about wanting to use a first strike nuke on Iran.
Jesus.
Venezuela on his mind?
And you read minds?
is that he doesn't have a mind.
How can he read someone else's?
And of course, you know, he did specifically Nutlick did mention, well, Iran.
And of course, those 18 dead may be a much larger number.
I wonder if the 18 dead include Major Clinner.
Because at one point, those people were taken off the list of killed.
And toward the end of August, just a few days.
days ago, well, the Pentagon added 60 more injuries to the wounded count for that one week in August.
The combined dead and wounded are now at 776.
Well, if we can get another thousand, it'll be 1776. How patriotic?
345 of the casualties are since July the 7th.
So, so much for Jimmy Dick Bowman or whatever is on his birth certificate,
claiming that nobody's really shooting at each other.
God almighty.
Over at USA Today, which isn't exactly a bastion of resistance to fascism,
they wrote
people in the administration like Nutlick
can easily forget or intentionally
ignore the men and women who have been killed
or wounded. They're all just
toys.
The military are toys.
And by the way, the USS
Abraham Lincoln has limped into
port. We talked about that a little bit
in yesterday's program at
Pataya in Thailand.
A pair of sailors were
taken into
custody by what would
who once been referred to as the shore patrol,
they got into a drunken brawl.
Sailors do that.
No Thai people were harmed, apparently,
but they were hauled back aboard the Lincoln
where they will spend the rest of the ship's liberty
and probably be put to work.
And have you seen the photos of the Lincoln?
Good God!
There's a reason they're not supposed...
Yeah, remember, Nita went near us.
I think it should have been out there a lot longer.
It looks like a rust bucket.
This massive, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier is covered from stem to stern in rust.
And God knows what else.
I don't know how you get to the barnacles.
Jesus.
Yeah, he did, nutlick, did it.
Oh, I confused.
Venezuela and Iran.
Yeah, that's what I did.
God.
And from Charlie at APS Radio News,
if somebody kicks in 20, I'll match another $20 donation.
So we're down to 130, 130, and not a goose egg,
$130 to go to finally finish three days into the month,
the first of the month challenge.
Thank you, Charlie, thank you so much.
And expect to see more about this in the coming.
days. There is a new
documentary coming out
about none other
than Leon Scum.
I first found out about it when I saw an article in variety
after the program last night
noting that David Byrne
formerly of the
talking heads, of course, has had a long
successful solo career.
He crafted a song called
Let Me Sell You a Dream to go with this new documentary
about Leon Scum.
Alex Gibney has created the documentary.
It is said to be sprawling
and it is also said to be
scathing and unforgiving.
Well, it will have its premiere sometime soon.
It shows up in theaters on October the 16th, making David Byrne potentially eligible for his second Oscar nomination.
Alex Gibney says the film is definitive and unvarnished examination of Leon Scum.
It's going to show at the 83rd Venice International.
film festival on the eight five days from now it'll then go to the Toronto International Film Festival and this this is a beast of a film it's just a little less than four hours long and I was initially skeptical like oh great another puff piece on Leon scum but apparently people are getting nervous about it because well the Hollywood report
covering the thing as well.
They got to see a preview,
and the Hollywood reporter wrote that
it's quite telling because Leon Scum,
the documentary features the fact that
Leon Scum sent cryptic messages about an anomaly in the matrix
and thousands of lasers in space
in the immediate hours
before victory was declared for nitwit Nero.
And the film prominently features Ashley St. Clair, Leon Scum's baby mama.
She can be seen in the film saying, he told me before the election he was going to unleash the anomaly in the Matrix.
And then shows text exchanges where he says, I have 10,000 lasers in space.
Ashley St. Clair says, I mean, I don't know where else he has space lasers.
I mean responding to Gibney saying was he talking about Starlink?
But instead of
you know, instead of reaching conclusions,
Gibney relieves that to the audience
saying that the audience has to decide
whether anomaly in the Matrix or space lasers
are a troll or a confession.
It also mentions the fact that now Leon Scum
may have an aggregation of the personal data of millions of Americans.
Speaking to the Hollywood reporter, Gibney, said,
we don't know what Dodgy Musk did with the data to which they had access.
What we do know via my own source, who ran IT at a major federal agency
and via the whistleblowers in public accounts,
is that the Dogey Boys had super admin status to federal IT system.
and said what that means is that the dodgy staffers could slide a copy of the data on all of us to SpaceX as easily as dropping a file into a folder.
I keep saying it, the Lord, the work we have to do if we can ever begin to try to write this listing to Starboard ship of state.
God.
And, well, Charlie, your challenge has been met.
Jude just jumped in and said, dedicated to Joey and Giraffrey, I miss them so very much.
Thank you, Jude.
I hear from Joey every now and then, and when he decides to crank out of Joey's journal,
I'm always here to share it with everybody.
Thank you for that.
So, yay.
110.
110 to go in our desperate flight
to meet the Bruce and Karen's
Memorial Challenge.
Leon's lasers, Matt in San Francisco.
Bitch, please.
The fucking GPS in his goddamn cars is shit.
Lasers my ass.
For fuck's sake, the fucking GPS.
Fix the fucking GPS.
GPS, you catamine freak.
Well, there is that.
But maybe the GPS in his cars is all fucked up
because he spent so much time fucking with elections.
Ah?
See?
All you got to do is rotated in space about 45 degrees,
and it looks like something entirely different.
But speaking of EVs,
I won't be able to do anything about it,
but I get a little excited.
Ford has announced
that next year
I can almost bet
that Brother Deacon Asa
the Camel Cardinal is already
hard at work on an email telling me
that it ain't going to work
or it's going to be crap
or something like that
Brother Deacon Asa is a bit of a cynic
but Ford aims to come out
with an EV pickup truck
with as much room, as much interior cabin space
as
a Toyota Rav4.
They intend to sell, they want to sell
100,000 of them in the first year.
And here's the fun part.
They're looking at a price point somewhere around 30 grand.
Now, all of that combines to make me want one.
I've wanted an EV.
for a long time and where I live having it in pickup truck form would be extremely helpful
because that means well you can haul stuff so I don't know if it's you know I don't know if
$30,000 includes wheels but I'm sure you pay more for things like the who-who
heater and the cooter cooler in the seats or leather I think you have to have leather to have the
cooter cooler in the hoo-hoo heater what kind of stereo what it'd be it been bound to be
electric one but one that you remember we talked what a year ago about the one company that
had come out with a prototypical truck that you could put down a down payment on
And it was called the slate, because slate was an anagram of Tesla,
and it was going to be an ultra-lightweight component-based EV pickup truck,
and curiously enough, it was going to come in around 30 grand.
I wonder if Ford picked that up somewhere along the way.
It would be interesting to find out.
Oh, by the way, Marge.
marginal trailer queen, is big mad at the Republican leadership.
I know. What's new? She's mad at Laura Looney. She's disillusioned.
Because when she started hollering about the Epstein files, suddenly, knit-wit-wit-Nero didn't love her no more.
And she says Laura Looney is a racist, which is hilarious coming from Marge.
But she tied into the maggot leadership in the House when House majority whipped Tom Emmer of Minnesota,
said,
Votes are not expected in the House during the weeks of September 21st and September 28.
Marge said,
They go back to work for about four days before the midterms.
Pathetic.
I regret nothing.
Did anyone ask you if you had any regrets, Marge?
Because, you know, she's still awful.
But then so too are the people that she's dog-walking.
She also, of course, says that the maggot party is a wholly owned subsidiary of Israel, Inc.
And she's probably not wrong, but it's not limited to the Republican Party.
We talked about that.
What is it?
TrackAPAC.com.
and it'll show you the breathtaking amounts of money that politicians of all stripe have taken,
with Democrats taking a whole lot.
Hakeem Jeffries comes to mind.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, testicle toasting Tuckio Rose Carlson went on a maggot,
or a Republican conservative, whatever they're calling themselves these days,
podcast with a
fellow by
the name of Ingetty.
That's his last name.
Breaking Points
is the show.
Sagar and Jetty is the co-host.
No,
Tuckio Rose
hosted Sagar and Jetty
on his show.
Right. Okay. There we go.
And they got to talking about,
of all people well uh that florida man mike rogers running against abdul el said and this is one of
those moments where you just sort of shake your head and go no really what timeline am i in
somebody help me here here we go how can our ambassador you interviewed i don't understand
foreign country over our own i think so who would vote for that who would vote for that also yeah
if i were to ask you not me
midterms say that if you ask me about the midterms Republican vision what's their
vision for the country what are you going to do about my home price nothing what are
you going to do about my gas prices increase them tell me yeah short-term
pain for long-term gain they said that six months ago it's been six months what
are you what are you going to do to create a better future for my child who's
ultimately that's all I actually care about I don't even really care about myself
anymore oh you're gonna create you know a day
of sin and gambling and marijuana and pornography.
It's like that's the marijuana industries, which we're going to elevate.
If I voted Republican in the midterm, what are they going to pass?
My health care premium went up 30%.
Are you going to do anything about that?
When did they become liberals?
Like everything I dislike about liberals, the, you know, neoconservative foreign policy,
the identity politics at home, the promotion of like the.
destruction of people, drugs, pornography, crime.
That's the Republican Party.
Where's the DSA and all this stuff?
Yeah, wow, that's fascinating.
I mean, you know, DSA is going through.
They're a fascinating group.
So, for example, everything you just laid out is probably the position and the same
articulation that the DSA co-chairs, the people in New York City who Fox News likes to bring
on and to argue with.
The candidates themselves are very interesting.
And you can either say this as a saddius.
or not, but they are learning, and I do, at the very least, have to admire their ability to
shape shift from where they were not that long ago.
Abdul al-Saiad, who's running in Michigan against Mike Rogers, who, as you and I know,
probably the most pro-intel of neocon.
They couldn't find anybody else to run in Michigan for the United States.
Who, by the way, lost already.
Why are they running him again?
Anybody want to tell me that?
Mike Rogers is really, I wouldn't vote for Mike Rogers at gunpoint.
Right.
And so that's the candidate, the guy, a literal loser who lost when Donald Trump won the state, just to show you how much of headwind he had at his back.
There's basically a tool of Israel and the intel agencies.
Right.
How would you run someone like that?
Exactly.
It doesn't even make sense.
And twice.
So that makes no sense.
Well, El Siyadh, look, Al-Saiad is a full-blown DSA.
He doesn't call himself DSA.
He's a full-blown leftist.
I've known him for quite a long time.
This is somebody.
You know him personally.
Not well.
I've interviewed him many times over the years because of my co-host, Crystal.
And so I've watched his ideal.
evolution who you could easily call as aOC said was quote woke one right woke one where he
said defund the police on a podcast he said all kinds of silly things about football and mask
standard leftist chivalets yeah hates mackina island he's for vaccine mandates right classic stuff
right i watch his campaign now it's america first the amount of times he says he doesn't even
when he talks about israel he says is committing a genocide but ultimately i want to
make sure that you don't pay more for health care.
I don't want your tax dollars going abroad
to fund this barbaric military.
He stands in front of a giant American flag.
It's almost Trumpian in terms
of a lot of those promises.
Exactly. And so you see candidates
like that, especially him. He will be the most interesting
test case come November. Is he going to win?
If I had to bet,
which I don't, I would probably bet that he'll win. I would think so.
I think so, too. Do you have any idea
not to fix it on poor Mike Rogers, who I know
but I mean, there's no one who should be farther from a position of power than Mike Rogers.
How did he get the Republican nomination in the Senate?
I looked into it.
It was relatively uncontested.
He had both, he had the most backing of the Michigan GOP, which is, of course, very in touch with their own voters.
Mike Rogers?
So they just decided to go with.
And again, this is the guy who lost to Slotkin when Donald Trump was able to win the state.
And so they can cry about vote rigging and all that.
as we want okay whatever but we all know that this is not a strong candidate in a wave year which
just happened and they decided to nominate him literally yet again genuinely he was the apac candidate
to be clear right he's told apac not to advertise in public forum right and do you see that's where i was
saying with el said his ability to go up against apac and to win if you're a ds a person that's got to be
one of the most inspiring wins of your entire life that's way bigger than zoran mum don't they got to get
rid of the social liberalism, if they get rid of that, because that's where the world is. Most people are not
orthodox free market people. They just want the economy to serve their families. Right. I think that's
fair. They want to be treated fairly. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. And they're
not for radical social change. So, wait a minute. I feel like I just had a hallucination. So testicle
toasting Tokyo Rose Carlson
and this
cigar fellow
have declared
that Abdul El Sayad
is
Trumpian?
In what universe?
Do they have the
attention span of a gnat?
Liberals, progressives,
Democrats generally, for the most
part, have been
on record
since the beginning of
this century opposing stupid wars of choice, but they can't, they don't even have the common
decency to credit so-called leftists.
Jesus, I feel, I want to meet these leftists they talk about all the time.
They're bet noir.
I want to meet these leftists.
Just out there singing the Internationale and Yuc, and Yucle.
to the barricades and and workers of the world unite you have nothing to lose but your chains
because i i feel i feel like those are those those those that they're about as rare as hen's teeth
but i guess it is true that he has pissed off apak
mike rogers has telling them not to spend directly on him
And here's the fun part.
That pissed A-PAC right off.
So, hey, if the assholes from A-PAC are having a conemption,
if their blood pressure is elevating,
Mike Rogers tell them that again.
Stoke the stroke, Mike, by all means.
And from Micah, who is in Michigan, after all.
Issues.
Oh, no, that was a different message.
They want credit, Micah says, and I'm waiting for the follow-up message.
And I guess the reason that they're saying El-Said will likely win, but you don't count chickens before they're hatched.
A Susquehanna polling and research survey that came out, they asked 800 likely Michigan voters between the 11th and 17th of August.
those numbers came back
46% to 39%
that's 46%
El Say it, 39%
Rogers
damn
that's
outside the margin of error
that's a genuine lead
assuming the polling methodology
was solid
Micah says they want people to think that they are unbeatable and that DSA people can't win because they're against them.
I don't know who the days are here.
Help me, Micah.
But even in what is supposed to be a sober-sided discussion, because, you know, Tukio Rose isn't barking or grunting or hooting or anything,
they can't resist saying, well, I mean, he said defund the police.
We can't defund the...
Well, I have...
Yeah.
Tuckio Rose, can we say...
Pretty please?
Mother may I?
Can we say abolish ICE?
Can we say abolish DHS?
Can we say abolish the CBP?
And go back to what we had before,
the Immigration and Naturalization Service?
Can we just get rid of all these vestigial remains
of the spasm we had in the aftermath 25 years ago of 9-11
when a bunch of our Saudi friends decided to attack us
because Osama bin Laden said our troops were on sacred Saudi sand
and then we took the troops off of sacred Saudi sand
and didn't really get attacked again.
I mean, I hope Abdul-Said cruises to victory.
I want, well, frankly, it was.
would be nice if
Massachusetts' own
Ed Markey had
somebody in there who could help carry
the weight on
this has to be
a country that works for everybody
and who doesn't have
a knee-jerk urge
to throw marginalized communities
under the bus at the first
at the first screech
of
what?
You know, I'm just trying not to talk
without it because it's annoying and bothersome.
Thank you so much, Charlie, at APS Radio News.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Hallelujah, here with about 51 minutes left in the program,
Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge has been met.
Thank you.
Thank you, indeed.
Thank you so much.
And so now we are down to 1610.
at present and I know it's a huge ask but could we knock off another 110 bucks and just be one week behind because that's that's sort of manageable fingers crossed and note coming in from george in course gold
EV trucks have you seen how small the bed isn't these trucks also if the truck bed is connected to the cab unibody then it isn't a pickup truck the bed should have its own suspension I don't know what
what they're going to do with this.
I like trucks that are on frame rails.
It saved a three quarter tonne Dodge pickup trucks
saved the lives of two people that I love very much back in,
well, what was it, December the 31st, 2011,
when one of the local hydrocodone cowboys plowed into
the rear end of said pickup truck.
The bed sucked up a lot of the impact,
bent the frame, totaled the truck,
in many ways, changed our lives here.
That truck was awful handy to have around.
And, you know, I get your point, George.
The thing is, I think things are going to, you know,
things are going to change.
and whether Ford can make this work or not, I don't know,
but if anybody can, Ford should be able to.
Now that they've hired back all those engineers that they fired
because they thought that AI was going to do all their automotive engineering for them.
Yeah.
And thank you, Ralphs.
Thank you so much for the challenge,
and thanks to our anonymous friend.
Thank you.
That's one bill that gets paid.
here's a
anybody
who's ever associated with
nitwit narrow
will invariably
be connected to some kind of
sleaze or
slimy behavior
oh wait there's somebody on the
stress line and I don't want to forget
let's go there and find out
what's going on and who we got
hey welcome to the program
well hey Roxanne how you doing
I'm good Carl yeah how are you
I could be better
That's so crazy
I just called in
And then suddenly
I'm on the air
Like no waiting
Well I saw it
I saw the call come in
And I have been guilty
In the past of
Forgetting there was a call on the line
Because I don't have a producer
And I just wanted to make sure
That I didn't leave you hanging
Oh well you didn't
You got me
Right away
Hey I have COVID
How's that?
Oh no
Wow.
Yeah.
I've never had it before.
But I was feeling like shit, you know, early, like Monday,
I went to the urgent care.
And, yeah, they did a test, and she's like, yeah, yeah, COVID.
So that's been exciting.
I'm like, God, it's so weird to have it.
It's like feels weird.
did you experience that?
Like it just makes you feel...
I've never had it.
I've never had it.
Oh, okay.
Well, yeah, I mean,
you know, I thought I was like super lucky for not having it.
And now I do and I understand what it's like.
But, you know, I've had every single shot and every, you know,
so I don't think I'm going to progress to like, you know,
having pneumonia or anything bad.
So when I was at urgent care, so the lady there, the MP, just gave me prescriptions for stuff to help with the symptoms.
And then I ended up calling my, or just texting my regular doctor, my primary care doctor.
And she's like, oh, okay, let's get you on, what you call it?
I forget the name now.
You know the name of the drug?
Yeah, what is it?
Paxloid?
Blacksopin.
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
That's a lot.
Yeah, so I started taking that last night.
And, you know, but, you know, I was really coughing a lot before.
I mean, I was really coughing.
And it started off, like, being, like, sick, like throwing up and stuff.
And then it turned into, like, more of, like, a really coughing.
bad cold and I was coughing up phlegm and my voice was like really really hoarse but my voice is
pretty much back to normal by now it's still a little you sound you sound pretty good rough
yeah and so that only lasted for like two days having a really bad voice and you know I've
I've gotten through it.
I'm glad that I have all the shots.
I know that that's what has made it possible for me to, you know, not get into a bad situation.
Right.
That's going to mean that the symptoms are probably going to be negligible is probably too strong a word,
but they're not going to be what they could have been.
Do you have the really terrible headache?
You know what?
I did.
I'm sure.
the heck did, but I don't know.
That's gone.
Good.
Yeah, I forgot about it until you just reminded me.
But yes, I had, I was, oh, God, just terrible, terrible headaches.
I mean, let's see, it's been like three or four days now.
But I get weird, bad taste in my mouth and I think a Starburst right now because I wanted
something that sweet.
Oh, my goodness, this is cute.
Carl Matt just wrote in and said,
Hello, caller, because he hears your voice.
Hello, caller, I thought Brenda Vicaro was dead.
Apparently, you sound like Brenda Vicaro.
Oh, God.
Poor Brenda.
Yeah.
Well, that's nice.
Good to know.
maybe I can do some
cameos as
Brenda
Happy birthday
Yeah
so
yeah
I
I
I
I
I think of course everything
sucks
that's going on
in the world
right
um
something in particular
though
that I was going to tell you
I have a
I saw my
cardiologist
for a
follow-up, you know, and he's Jewish, which, you know, is necessary in understanding the story,
but he, and I started talking, and, you know, he was complaining about something. I can't remember
what it was, but, and I said, oh, yeah, it's because, you know, Trump has taken away health care for so many
people and, you know, I started
talking about that and about how
terrible RFK
Jr. was and everything.
And we got
on the subject of vaccines
and he's like, well,
you know, they do
give them an awful lot of vaccines
children. They really, they
really. And I said,
well, you know, they
did it when I was a kid
too, you know.
Well, there are an awful lot of childhood illnesses.
I mean, come on.
Exactly.
And then we started talking about HPV.
And, oh, no, I'm sorry.
We started talking about hepatitis B.
He got on a little tangent on that.
And he's like, I just, you know, he couldn't understand, you know, why they needed it.
I said, well, let me tell you, there are a lot of families who do not live in nice neighborhood,
and they live in areas where there's a high incidence of drug abuse and et cetera, where, you know,
the kid could get hepatitis B, like if their cousin comes up and slobbers all over them, et cetera.
And he's like, eh, he's like, you know, the only way that it's transmitting,
it is directly from the mother to the baby.
And I don't know if that's true, to be honest.
Is that true?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know with like Hep C, the only way to pass it is through breaks in the skin and blood.
Yeah.
Like using somebody, if you, nobody does this.
But let's say you use the head.
gristled toothbrush of someone who has hepatitis C and you make your guns bleed.
Yeah, you're going to get hep C.
Yeah.
Now, blood-to-blood contact.
But, you know, right.
Okay.
And so, anyway, just the way he talked about it was kind of awkwardly.
Well, I mean, look, kids skin knees.
Kids.
Exactly.
I mean, God.
And.
Right.
Look, I mean,
And he was just downplaying it so much.
Tetnis vaccines,
you know,
you come,
you,
you,
you get cut by something nasty.
You go,
as you know as an adult,
you go get a tetanus vaccine.
Because Lockjaw is a horrible way to die.
And it will kill you.
You know,
and I said,
well,
you know,
they might not get it as a baby,
but,
you know,
later on they can develop.
they can certainly get
hepatitis B later on.
Yeah, stop it.
Stop it to source.
I mean, this is, yeah, exactly.
I mean, this is a good way
to make sure that when that little baby
gets older and they're like 14 years old
and let's say they start experimenting
with injectable drugs, you know,
you never know.
This is going to help.
This is going to help them.
And it was trying to irritate me a little.
and then I started realizing from our conversation
that I was dealing with a fucking maggot cardiologist
because
I was going to say was there any moment
that absolutely foreclosed any further inquiry
you knew for a fact you were dealing with a maggot
oh yeah exactly
there was because when we started talking about Gaza
and, you know, I said, and he's like, I said, well, I don't know how we got on it, but I just said, you know,
Israel was pretty much committing genocide, and what's the guy, Ben Gavir, he's evil.
Yeah, and so is, and so is, I'm going to bellow.
And so is, I'm R. Ben-Gavir, Billazil Smotrich, a fucking baby, his defense minister, they're all evil.
Yeah, and I started
And you know, I told them how that
fucking Ben Gavir
Was making that commercial
Or whatever the TikTok video
Showing the
How they're going to
Have these people marching into what looks like a concentration camp
And then it showed them marching out
Have you seen that video?
I don't think so
Oh my God, you have to see it
I mean it shows like a line
of what looks like
reminds me
totally of Jews during
World War II being
marched into a fucking gas chamber
and
you know it's AI
and then it shows them all coming out and they're like
really skinny and malnourished
and
he got so much
backlash
against that video that he ended up
taking it down
Ben Gavir
but he was also like relishing in the idea he made a video of him just like rubbing his hands together and all gleeful about the fact that they're going to bring back hanging
to you have to catch that one no in fact the one i mean the one i would lean on because it's so easy to do deep fakes and everything these days smotrich and ben guvier are both hardcore believers in the concept of magna yuzzi
Israel, greater Israel.
And B.B. Netanyahu endorsed it, and that is an Israel that runs from the Euphrates River to the Mediterranean to Syria, practically to the Turkish border in the north and Egypt in the south.
And that's not speculative.
Yeah, that's not speculative, though. They really want to make that happen.
Yes.
And it's so obvious when you see them, like especially in the video.
And he's rubbing his hands together and laughing about, you know, and he said that Ben
Kavir said that, well, I mean, this is something the United States does, like to justify it, right?
And it just totally disgusted me to no end.
But anyway, I was talking to them about that and how, you know, they are massacring children, right?
Yeah.
And he's like, oh, you can't believe that.
He says, you can't believe that.
That's not true.
The doctor's telling me that it's not true.
Okay.
Yeah, that those dead kids are playing possum.
Right, got it.
So that's what really made me go, oh, God, this is what my cardiologist is.
So I'm going to definitely get a different one.
I was going to say, yeah, maybe look around for a different cardiologist.
I mean, the only reason I picked him was because I moved last year, you know, and I wanted to get one that was closer to where I live now.
But my previous cardiologist was absolutely phenomenal.
He was from my ran.
And he was amazing.
I mean, he was nice.
Everything about him.
He was a great doctor.
And, you know, you know, when they do the, uh,
thing where they stick the, I don't know why I'm forgetting medical stuff, but they stick a big,
you know, cable up you, yeah, into your heart.
Oh, catheterization.
Like a big tube.
Yeah, yeah.
And I've had it done before, you know, like when I had a heart attack, I had it done,
and then I had it done afterwards, like, during a checkup.
And, oh, my God, it was so, I hated it.
because they stick it in your groin, you know,
and it goes all the way up, and it's just,
it's not that it's painful, it's just the idea, you know.
But this doctor, the other one, his name is Dr. Sererian,
he's the one that was Iranian,
who was an amazing cardiologist, he did it through the arm.
And I'm like, what?
I'm like, you mean I kind of had it done
through the arm all this time?
And he's like, yeah, that's the preferred way that I do it.
And I think, oh, well, I like that better.
So I liked him so much, you know, and I really liked him.
But when I switched, I did it just out of convenience.
But I'm going to go back to Dr. Sererian for sure.
It sounds like a good idea.
Well, yeah, I should have told this one, you know, my previous cardiologist is from, oh.
on that stupid
what do you think about that
but um
he was telling me that this was like
don't fight with your cardiologist
I mean yeah
just don't
not good for your blood pressure
I don't have to see him again for like another year
anyway
but I
he's like well we just need to agree to disagree
is what he said
I'm like okay
but
I really
was shocked
I really was
you know and that someone who's that educated well it sounds like you ran it sounds like you
sounds like you uh sounds like you ran over ran across not ran over sounds like you ran across an
israel uberalas type yeah they exist oh by the way i do have to do i do have to do a quick
correction carl uh kim in new york serving as the horn ad hoc brenda vicarro uh research department
noted that Brenda Baccaro lives.
She's 86.
Yay!
I'm glad to know it.
Thank you, Kim.
Oh.
And Matt in San Francisco, I'm sure you feel better too now.
Good.
Oh, gosh, yeah.
Let me ask you, Carl.
And I don't want to get too granular with this or anything, but you're in the Tucson area?
No, I live in Phoenix.
Oh, you're in Phoenix.
Okay.
Well, that takes that out of the running.
A dear friend is going to be in Tucson next month,
and I'm looking for recommendations for some really, really kick-ass authentic Mexican cuisine.
Oh, yeah.
I live in Phoenix.
Not this strip mall Mexican like I get.
Yeah.
Well, there are, I'm sure, that it's just.
packed with real authentic Mexican restaurants in Tucson.
Well, somebody in the Horn family community congregation maybe.
Yeah, somebody in the Horn Family Community congregation maybe in the Tucson area.
So if you are, let me know and give me some recommendations so I can share those along.
Well, I'm pretty sure that one of your listeners is.
There's another guy that you mentioned sometimes, and I thought you said that he lived in Tucson.
I don't remember his name.
Doesn't come to mind.
But he's the one that you've talked about.
Yeah.
Is it rig?
Oh, no.
What's his thing?
I don't know.
But anyway, so I've been really enjoying your show lately, too.
Oh, thank you.
It's been like, it's like he has stepped it up a notch or something.
It's fun.
I like it.
And I do not have an iPhone anymore.
I dropped the iPhone.
because
Because they're so damn expensive?
No, I mean, I had an iPhone 17.
You know, I had the latest.
But, and I've been making payments on it and stuff.
But in the back of my head, there's been this little itching nerve
about the fact that Mr. Cook went to Washington
and kiss the ring.
Oh, you mean, yeah, Tim Apple?
Jim Apple.
Yeah, right.
He kissed Trump's ass so hard and gave him that gold gift.
Every since that happened, it's very annoying to me, the whole thing.
And it really bothered me a lot because I'm like, well, there goes another fucking brand, you know?
Yeah, but the question arises,
is are there any brands that don't?
You know, would the CEO of Samsung not fly across the Pacific
and come up and puckered up and smooch the orange behind two?
I mean, look what...
Well, actually...
Or the Google phone?
Look at what Google just did with the Lake of America.
They bent right over and kissed.
But I actually switched to a Google...
fixable.
And the reason I did
is because of that one,
also because of the fact
that I'm so tired of feeling
pressured, like, oh my
God, if you don't get the iPhone, you're such a loser.
You know, I mean, and
not everyone's like that, but, you know, my family
is like that somewhat.
And they're, you know,
everybody in my entire family has an iPhone.
So,
I'm going to be out of the
loop now with them, but I don't care.
I had a pixel before many years ago,
like when they first came out,
and I really liked it.
And then I went back to using iPhone
because, you know, I just wanted to use FaceTime and stuff.
But, um,
so I'm using the pixel again,
and I actually like it.
It's great.
I mean, it takes really good pictures.
The camera is amazing.
Oh, uh,
You know, I've got a, the stress-line phone that you're talking on right now is a Samsung Galaxy S-22 maybe Ultra.
I mean, it's old.
It's real, but the camera is still a hundred times better than the camera on my iPhone.
I'm on a, you know, I'm a broke bitch, Carl.
I'm on an iPhone 14.
And we're at the, where at the, where's the, where's the, we're at the,
We're all broke.
We're at the part of the battery life where I have to charge, you know,
it's got to be on the charger overnight,
and it'll have to go on the charger sometime during the day, too.
And I don't even do that much.
Well, if you want to really be a cheap bitch and get a phone that you just use
for circumstances like that,
I suggest going to Walmart and buying one of those,
they're called a shrew blue.
they're an Android phone and they're $30 total.
That's what they are.
Because I bought one as a burner.
At this point, at this point, I have one.
I confess, I'm watching.
And this is just an iPhone 14 max.
This isn't even the Pro Max.
This is just the large iPhone format iPhone 14.
I have dreamed.
of having the, I want
the iPhone 18 Pro Max
I want all that processing power, I want
all that storage.
Right.
And like
you said,
I want to
well, I'm in a
long distance relationship and
honestly
FaceTime is really
important.
Yes, I can understand.
And I like my
You know what? I've discovered that you can do FaceTime on Android now.
Really?
Well, I also like my blue text messaging.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
To me, and you know, I'm one of those people that are kind of self-conscious about stuff.
And I was thinking, oh, God, it's going to be so embarrassing that I have green text message.
messages instead of blue.
You know?
But then I thought to myself,
fuck it,
you know what?
I'm a 60-year-old man
who doesn't care anymore.
I'm not trying to compete with my other school kids,
you know?
I'm not trying to fit in anymore.
And so if mine is green,
then mine's green,
you know,
that's it.
Now when it comes to clothes,
Well, that's a different story.
Are we a clothes horse, Carl?
I am not going to be running around dressed in Tommy Hillfigger,
which is actually very looked down upon, in my opinion.
And I look down upon it.
And I'm not going to be out of fashion.
That's what you mean.
Hell no.
I get it.
I like to be in style.
I get it.
The moment I transitioned, it's like,
oh someday i want to go to paris and get fitted for a chanelle suit oh no carl carl you disappeared
uh but yeah chanelle oh there's hopefully that's carl again uh did you push well my fabulous
pixel hung up ah but no one of those cheek cheek cheeky yeah it was a cheek yeah that's happened
No, like I said, back in the before time when I was swanning around in courtrooms,
if it wasn't Georgie O'Armani, it did not go on my back.
And now...
Oh, yeah.
And now, I just have an abiding yearning for a Chanel suit.
And I mean, I need a nice suit.
but
well gosh
yeah
or Brooks brother
do they make
oh I'm sorry
do they make
ladies suits
they do I believe so
they might
you know
cute little
cute little
but I was talking about myself
with the Brooks brother
yeah right
the captoe oxfords
and
yeah
I am like
such a preppy bitch
I used to be
so preppy
up to date
when I was in high school
and my girlfriend at the time, I actually had a girlfriend, was the same way.
So we had the preppy handbook.
Oh, my God.
And we followed it to a T, to a T.
Pink and green.
Oh, yeah.
I remember the preppy handbook.
Oh, my God, I do.
Yeah, we both did, used it.
And it was fun.
Yeah.
But I learned so much, like, not to wear certain brands.
And some brands are supposed to be preppy, but they're actually not preppy.
Like Abercombeen fish looks preppy, but it's not really good.
Now, how about Vineyard Vineyard Vineyard.
Yeah, oh, that's preppy as fuck.
That's so New England.
That's the casual wear that has the little whale embroidered on it.
Oh, God.
stupid I am. Yes. Yes. But you know, as an adult, I found out I can buy these brands on Poshmark.
Oh. See, I have a hard time with Poshmark because I am a suspiciously large woman.
And there's just not a lot there. But I can't afford it, but I love Lacoste, even though I can't understand the French sizes.
Vineyard Vines.
I know, but you can just look them up.
Hellie Hanson.
I see a lot of people wearing Heli Hanson.
But around here in the National Park,
the big deal is, of course,
to wear what people around here refer to as Pataguchi.
Patagonia.
Oh, yeah?
What is that?
That's Patagonia.
Oh, okay.
Outdoor adventure wear.
Well, out.
Well, outdoor wear is kind of cool looking, I think.
And, you know, a step down, but still respectable, of course, is Columbia.
I've got...
Oh, yeah.
Last winter, I bought a great big, puffy,
um, Columbia long coat.
It may be the warmest thing I have ever worn in my life.
And the nice thing is, it comes down, it comes down to me.
mid shins. It actually meets the
it meets the boot tops of my ugs.
And ugs are another thing that are non-negotiable
but not the not the made in China
ugs. They're kind of hard to find
but
the ugg company
took
Australian manufacturers of ugg boots
to court and said, only we
can call them ugg boots
and the court said like
fact ye si
they invented in Australia
we've called them Aggies because
they're ugly and they're ass
and you can stick it right up
you can stick it right up your ass
and so if you look around
you can find
genuine Australian
shearling sheep
of boots
and they are they're ugly
but you can wear them without
socks the
fleece lining is just like
ah
It's like having your feet caressed while you walk.
I know that sounds a little out there, but they're the most comfortable things in the world.
I started wearing them in the before time, and I did not give a flying fuck what anybody thought.
And I even checked in with John Fox down in Australia back, and I said, do guys wear ugs?
And he goes, oh, mate, I've got three pairs.
So.
But it's a very good.
It's a very girly fashion statement here to the Ugg Boots, because they make cute ones with like little bows up the back and stuff.
Oh, okay.
Because in the brutality of winter, I can't stand cold feet.
You don't ever have to worry about it, but I do.
You live in Arizona.
Yeah, you do.
I know.
It's still like in the 90s.
I think today was 100, mainly.
But it's not gotten cool yet.
at all by any stretch of imagination.
Nope.
Well, not to be,
not to be purient or anything.
Right now, it is 91 degrees
in this studio here, the fabulous horn studios.
And as soon as the program is over,
I'm going to go through the door into the mansion,
and I'm going to be removing clothing all the way,
and I'm going to run into my air-conditioned bedroom
and just flop on the bed
and lay there in the cold air.
It's hot.
That sounds very pleasant, actually.
Yeah, it's still hot here, and I still don't have a car,
so I'm still waiting at the bus stop in the heat.
Oh, that's rough.
In the sun.
I mean, you know, it's, Ron San, it's been 16 plus here.
But it's a dry heat.
So, oh, good one, please.
Yeah, shut up, I know.
I mean, shut up Roxanne.
I know.
Yeah, come on.
find out what that's like. I
I love
Hey dudes,
Shrean. Okay.
Do you know about those?
Yes. Hey dudes? Yeah. I've seen him.
I never knew anything about him
until my niece and her boyfriend
bought me a pair for Christmas
about three years ago.
And I'm like,
wow, you're like really comfortable. And I love the fact
that I don't have to wear socks
and that I can just
slide them on.
And they breathe.
They breathe.
And they're not expensive.
Okay?
No, one of my girlfriends
got a pair and said,
you have got to try these.
Oh,
and as soon as I find them in my size,
I will.
Well, you know,
I wear a size 13.
You know.
So they make them in all varieties.
Like I have a pair that looks like Sperry top siders.
They're leather boat shoes.
And, you know, you can get them like that or you can get swayed.
You can get, you know, ones that look like sneakers.
I mean, there's such a variety.
So I'm, like, totally into wearing these hey-doos.
Hey, dude's my favorite now.
My previous favorite one, Skechers.
Yeah, sketches are great.
right. Again, I run into problems because, and this is the absolute God's honest and
unfly-blown truth, all the cute women's shoes end at 11. And I'm a 12.
Well, that's rough. My best friend who died was a size 12. She wore size 12. You know,
and so I don't know where she got her shoes from, but she was able to get shoes.
Well, that's why my go-to shoes in the summer are what I call the old-school leather keds cheerleader shoes, white leather, little lace-up oxers.
Oh, I love it.
Most comfortable shoes I've ever worn.
The only problem is they've kind of got that gum sole, and they can be a mite slickety sometimes, depending on the surface.
Oh, now I remember where she got a lot of her shoes.
she would just buy them at paylust
oh yeah
that's a good place
I've gotten
gotten a lot of cute sandals
in her size
yeah
but
I don't know what your show's about today
but I will be listening to it
tonight
well you'll
what yeah
we've been all over the place
and it means so much
to me that you say you're enjoying
the program that's
that's
that's so encouraging.
It really, really is, Carl,
and I appreciate that.
Well, I love it.
I listen to you.
My regulars are you,
Tara,
Mike,
and the five stack.
Well, tonight
you get a double bonus
because Tara
and I are filling in for Mike
over on progressive voices.
Oh, good.
And we have a blast, she and I do.
Just an absolute blast when we get together.
You know what?
She's been, she has been impressing me beyond belief lately.
Oh, she's so good and she works so hard.
Yeah, and it's paying off now, a lot.
Sorry.
I'm choking to death on a starburst.
It is paying off, and she's having like these.
all of these guests and that's like that.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
You know what, though?
I kind of like it when it's just to be honest.
But sometimes she has great guests.
And most people don't know what a pain in the ass it is to line up guests.
Because if, I mean, I used to do it routinely.
But if you've got a guest lined up and at the last minute they go, sorry, can't
it well then you've got to fall back on whatever prep you did as if they weren't going to be there
and it just sort of it just sort of wrecks the it sort of wrecks the it sort of wrecks the flow when that
happens and it happened enough to me and i was like screw this you know this isn't doing me any
good i'm trying to help other people you know if you're not going to show up fine but but we have but
we have to address the important things in the world today, Carl, and what I want to know
and what I bet the Horn Family Community Congregation really wants to know is what's your
favorite flavor of Starburst?
Well, okay, I like lemon and cherry.
Hmm.
I started out.
Orange was my favorite.
Yeah, orange was my favorite, but I gravitated over to the,
the pink ones, the strawberry.
I love those.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody loves those.
Like, they even make that as a bag just of itself, you know, just the pink ones.
I had no idea.
Yeah, I saw them.
I saw them.
I got on this kick.
I'm still on my, I don't know if I told you last time I talked to you, but I've been on
this kick of drumsticks, ice cream.
Oh, God, they're so good.
Yeah.
Oh, I know.
I love them.
I love them.
And I don't like the kind with nuts on it.
I like the ones that say cookie dip, you know?
Ooh, yeah.
Oh, and I presume out in Arizona, you, of course, still have DQs, right?
Dairy Queen?
Yes.
Okay, two recommendations, because now we're talking about serious things.
one their lemonade cooler is fantastic it's their lemonade blended yeah it's their lemonade blended with their vanilla soft serve
for an absolutely cool and refreshing drink okay that sounds great and the other thing is
they have a seasonal blizzard right now which i refer to as a buzzard they've got a seasonal
blizzard right now. One is caramel apple. It's wonderful.
But the other one they have is the Biskopf cookie blizzard.
Remember the Biscop's, the little things you got on Delta flights and you can finally get them in real grocery stores now?
Yeah, they got a Biscop blizzard that's just yummy.
I bet they are. I'm going to have to try one. I always get the recent peanut butter cups.
That's my go-to. That's my go-to.
My standard, my standard blizzard is what I call the Elvis.
Yeah, what's that?
Yeah, it's hot fudge, banana, and peanut butter as a blizzard.
That sounds good.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, as in.
Where I work, there's a Culver's next door.
Oh, damn it.
Yum.
You had to ruin it for me.
I don't have a Culver's.
You got a Culver's in Phoenix.
I don't have one in West Virginia.
This timeline blows.
It's right next door to where I work, and my boss always takes us over there for lunch, because we always get the children's meal.
And the children's meal, you get an actual cheeseburger with anything on it that you want, and french fries, and also a frozen yogurt.
Well, yummy.
All of that's included.
Okay.
So a suggestion.
And, you know, the price is so cheap.
Yeah, but a suggestion,
sub the cheese curds for the French fries.
Well, the cheese curds are heavenly.
My boss, who is also my friend, that's what he does every time.
Or he'll just buy the cheese curds in addition to the fries.
And, of course, the frozen yogurt at Culvers is, I mean,
frozen yogurt, the frozen custard at Culver's,
cannot be beaten.
And their idea of a blizzard is something they call a concrete mixer.
And I remember, oh, God, I can't remember what year, but I was up in Madison, Wisconsin.
We were going to Fighting Bob Fest.
I was speaking there.
And I went into Culver's in Madison and got a peach, because their featured flavor of the month or whatever,
was peach frozen custard.
I got a peach cobbler.
concrete mixer, and I just wanted to stick my whole face in it.
Get out.
Oh, my God, yes.
You know, I totally love peach stuff, especially peach cobbler stuff.
Did it have pieces of crust in it?
Oh, yes.
Oh, goody, goody.
And the gooey inside the peach cobbler stuff and the peaches.
and oh, oh, it's so good, so good.
And I'm that way with peaches, too.
Okay, now you have to go and look for a peach concrete mixer.
I will.
That's what I'm going to get the next time.
They may not have it.
That sounds so yummy.
Oh, is it cheese bowl?
Yeah, I think it is because, you know,
peach is only ripen for a certain period of time, depending on where one is.
because at one point in time, Ben and Jerry's did a Willie Nelson's Texas Peach Cobbler ice cream, and it was amazing.
You can tell I went looking for peach ice cream the other day. I struck out.
I had it at D.C. Queen. Or Baskin Robbins, one of the two.
I bet it was Baskin Robbins. I've never seen Beach Cobbler at DQ.
Oh, okay. Yeah, it probably was, now that I think about it.
it.
Yes, peach cobbler, ice cream stuff is to die for.
I know.
It is good.
Food porn.
Yeah, I went looking for it the other day, and, yeah, I couldn't find anything,
but I had it very much at top of mind.
The other thing I did run across when I failed to find my peach ice cream,
I found Fat Boy, New York strawberry cheesecake ice cream sandwiches on a stick.
really?
Yeah, and it was a strawberry cheesecake ice cream with like a hard candy, vanilla candy coating,
and it was rolled in graham cracker crumbs.
It was really good.
Yeah, I had to crush and snort up.
And I had to crush up Format Foreman's and just snort them right off the counter there.
But it was good.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Now you triggered my dog.
Dolly Parton.
Yeah, hard candy Christmas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I, um, my memory of Dolly Parton that has stuck with me all these years is you can only get them in boxes of breeze detergent.
Ha!
Do you remember that?
No.
There were these cowls that were free.
Oh.
They would get in boxes of brief laundry detergent.
and she and Porter Wagner did commercials for that.
I, as a child, I remember it so well because they had candy scraps,
and they also had flowers.
And they had different ones.
And she said, you can get them all.
But I love, the thing that stuck with me is when she just said,
you can only get them in boxes, the breeze detergent.
And so I would beg my mother to get that because I wanted to get those towels, you know.
Of course, I was a little gay boy.
I needed Kansas type towels.
Oh, of course.
So my mother was like, those towels are shitty.
She's like, they're spin and, you know, they're like not good.
They're not high quality towels.
And I'm like, I know, but the Dali Parton tell.
so we did get them a couple times and they were like they were very flimsy towel
they were yeah but um
but you could if you were hard-pressed you could use those towels to make a pretty little dress
oh yeah you could
flower sack dresses used to be a thing around here
well you could also use them for rags for cleaning
you know i wouldn't want to do that to miss dog
Now, I tell you what, Wally World last year, it was in the winter, they had like Dolly Parton Iron Skilets.
And Dolly Parton, and I can't remember if it was Betty Crocker or Duncan Hines, probably Betty Crocker, Dolly Parton Cornbread Mix.
You know, I do recall seeing that.
and also other Dolly Parton
frozen dinners or something?
Yeah, maybe.
Or frozen bakery stuff.
You know what makes me so mad
is I actually remember
when a lot of her albums
were being re-released on vinyl,
this is about three years ago,
three or four years ago.
And they were, you know,
they were all remastered and stuff
and they were, prices were like, you know, $30 or whatnot.
The regular going price for a vinyl record.
And I thought, ooh, maybe I should get one.
Because I was thinking about getting Jolene and also the Code of Many Colors album.
And I just like, I'm like, okay, I'm going to get it, but I never did.
And so after she died, I'm like going online and looking at the fact that they're like $300.
plus now. Of course. Now, if you want to hear a really
interesting rendition of Jolene,
you should listen to, you should hear Jack
White's version of it.
And he doesn't change any, yeah, he doesn't change any of the lyrics,
you know, White Stripes, he doesn't change any of the lyrics.
The lyrics remain feminine.
Please don't, and Jack White in his
male voice singing, Jolene, please don't take my man.
Yeah, I'll have to look that out.
I like her music, you know?
Yeah.
And it's not like the typical kind of music I would like, you know?
That's what's telling me about it.
But I love her voice.
It's like sugar, you know?
It's like sugar being poured.
It just sounds so honey sweet.
and just everything about her.
I just totally love her.
So the other night I'm like,
oh, I need to watch,
what's it called?
The best little whorehouse in Texas.
So I got on this kick,
but I wanted to watch it.
So it wasn't on any streaming services for free,
so I ended up paying, you know, I rented it.
It was only like $3 to rent it.
But, yeah,
I love where she's saying,
her trademark song
in that movie.
She's so great.
I will always love you.
You know,
she was really a sweetheart,
a total sweetheart.
And when they,
she told a story that
when Kevin Costner
was producing and making the bodyguard,
they had another song lined up,
but somebody else had bought the rights to it,
and they were in a bind.
And somebody said, hey, listen to Dolly Parton's, I will always love you.
And both he and Whitney Houston fell in love with the song instantaneously.
And that made Dolly rich beyond her wildest dreams, as if she wasn't already.
Wow, I didn't know that's how it happened.
Gosh, yeah, that movie is, I really, you know who was supposed to be in the movie originally?
Diana Ross
was supposed to be in it
It was going to be
Diana Ross and Ryan O'Neill
But
Barry Gordy
Said no
You know, he was your manager
Pretty much
Ran the show
As far as she was concerned
But yeah, he said no
He didn't think it was a good idea
If he had to do it
But I wish she would have
You know
Well it occupies the special thing
It turned out great though
Yeah, that movie occupies a special place in my heart because that was a very early date night movie for me back in the day.
Ooh.
Who were you on the day with?
Annette, who I went on to marry.
Gosh, that's pretty cool.
Sweet.
I do love that song by Whitney.
I really do.
She kills it.
So you know, no, or when me.
But, anyway, what time is it?
It's 8 o'clock now.
Yeah, it's kind of time for me to get out of here.
I'm on, by the way, here in the fabulous Horn Studio sauna,
I am now on, I'm on bottle of water number three.
Do you pay for those?
What, the water bottles?
Yeah, I buy water.
Yeah.
Oh, I use pure.
I have a pure thing on my sink.
Yeah. I just happen to be in West Virginia, and I know the kind of shit that gets dumped in our rivers and streams and stuff.
And I'm still a little bit snake bit.
I'm still a little bit snake bit from the freedom disaster of 12 years ago,
when 300,000 people in nine counties got their water poisoned.
by a coal industry service company with a chemical called methylchlorohexane methanol.
This is sound good.
No, it wasn't.
You know, 900,000, 300,000 or 300,000 people are even still involuntary participants in a long-term epidemiological study of the effects of methylchlorohexane methanol on the,
the human body.
That's so bad.
That's so bad.
And, you know, you should be ashamed
of yourself from not one named data centers,
too.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
What the hell is wrong with me?
And we should put flock cameras
everywhere.
Yeah.
But, no, I go to
Kroger because it's a union shop
and their
bottled water, their bottled water
bottles have no BPA in them,
so.
Okay. Oh, well. You know, you have to. You can't drink poison.
Not good for you.
Yeah, not usually.
Well, you know, I'm so glad that I got to talk to you.
I'm glad you called.
I always think of all the kind of stuff I wanted to talk to you about and stuff.
You know, and I write letters sometimes, but, you know, it's fun or to talk.
Oh, it absolutely is. No doubt about that.
And I love how it's so great to be able to reach out to you.
That's awesome.
Well, listen, you just keep getting better and get over COVID and be glad you got your vaccines.
And once the tax lov, it's done its job, it'll be flu season, flu shot season, RSV shot season.
And hey, COVID season, all over again.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot about having COVID now after.
talking to you.
Oh, that makes me so happy.
I am so happy that we got to talk, so
keep going. I love your show.
I wish that I could contribute more, but, you know, I'm hard.
No, I understand. We all are.
Yes. And, you know, as long as I can keep
the wolf off the door and keep all the bills paid,
we'll keep doing this.
But it's kind of like when I beg people,
it's kind of like when I beg people to leave comments on the podcast and stuff,
that interaction makes it more likely that more people will find the program.
Because this does remain, and I find self-promotion extremely difficult.
But this is a program unlike any other.
And I wish more people knew about it.
about it.
I think back to the phone system we had when we started, it had six, it had six numbers, and good God, it was expensive.
But they were, you know, and I'd be sitting here with all six numbers lit up.
And, you know, over time, people move on, people choose to do their own thing.
the great purity wars of 2016
were hell
uh-huh
uh
oh yeah
yeah
uh
well i wish that i
need to remember
to
promo you more
but I'd never go on blue
sky
I hardly ever go on it
but you know for some crazy reason
I have like 15,000 followers
I don't know how
wow
but
if you start promoting
If you start promoting the show to your 15,000 followers, God knows what might happen.
I know.
I should just do it every day.
And I post the show.
I will.
I post the show to Blue Sky every evening, and Micah cross-posted over to the Horn, the Horn Blue Sky account at head-on.
Live.
Goodness gracious, I didn't realize you were such an influencer.
Well, you know what? On my old ex-accounts, I had 80,000 followers. So I started doing money-making
opportunities and stuff, and then I ended up getting my account, suspended, taken away.
But I never would promote it on there because, and I started in a new one, I've already gotten, like, 35,000.
Since June?
Maybe I need to bring you on as a social media consultant.
My God.
I think I've got maybe 13.
I've got maybe 13 followers on Blue Sky or something.
I don't know.
Oh, boy.
Well, you know, it's a, I'm not going to promote you on my current Twitter because it's a adult content.
That's fine.
I understand.
Yeah.
And Twitter is a sewer.
Well, luckily I don't participate in the political on Twitter anymore.
I just can't.
But, you know, I do the adult thing and people like what I do.
Cool.
Isn't that funny?
But I have, and it's not me, I'm not taking naughty pictures.
I do comment.
I write commentary.
You know, that's all.
But, yeah.
I appreciate everything that you do.
I really do.
Well, thank you, Carl.
Nice talking to you.
Lovely talking to you, and you keep getting better, you hear?
Stay in touch.
Let us know you're on the end.
I will.
Thank you so much for talking to me.
Oh, thank you for calling.
You have a great mind, Mark.
Take care, Carl.
Bye.
All right.
Oh, that was lovely.
That was so much fun talking to Carl.
And gosh, I hope he continues to not have a bad time with COVID.
Sounds like about as good as it can be.
Doesn't Billable live in Los Angeles?
Sumon asked.
You said Phoenix, I think.
No, Billable lives in Los Angeles.
This was Carl, who I thought lived in Tucson, but he lives in Phoenix.
I'm so easily confused, but you're in Arizona, Sumon.
So I just want to find some really, really kick-ass Mexican restaurant recommendations in the greater Tucson area.
So there we are.
Anyway, thanks everybody.
Thanks to each and every one of you who share your precious finite time
engaging in the program in whatever manner you choose.
Thanks to our challenge makers and challenge respondents.
Thanks so much, we finally met Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge.
Tomorrow we will be at 1900.
So we'll keep chipping away and hopefully keep the lupine pest away from the porch.
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Thanks to those of you who subscribe through PayPal and Patreon, Venmo, Cash App, U.S. Postal Service.
Thank you.
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Thank you all so much.
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Thanks to our all volunteer staff.
Thank you, Roger and Jeremy in the old holler tree in the chat room.
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Live.
She puts up a show post every evening.
Thank you so much.
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Thank you ever so kindly.
Thanks to our news ninjas.
Thank you, Brother Deacon Asa, head-on.
dot live, I can never
express how grateful I am for
everything that you do.
And,
oh, thank you, Sumon.
That's going to be very helpful. I will send that along.
Los Dos Molinos.
Hmm, okay.
Thank you, like I said, Emily, for the intro.
Thanks to the hardest, working, bravest people.
I know the folks at Coal River Mountain Watch.
CRMW.com.net over a quarter century.
at the forefront of the struggle for human rights and environmental justice in Appalachia
and a proud union shop.
Please stay safe, y'all.
As Carl just proved, COVID's still out there, and there are maggots who are more than happy to spread it.
And by the way, as Stephen New York noted,
As Real the Apprentice Reaper screwed up again, taking Gloria Steinem this time,
who struck so many blows for feminism.
One of these days, he's going to walk around, walk around into just, you know, never mind.
He'll eventually win.
The Reaper's second class, Asriel, will eventually get his, he'll earn his sickle.
Thanks for the reminder, Steve.
And of course, if Brookie Rollins comes toward you,
babbling all about how, and the beef prices is coming down.
Well, avoid her like the plague because she is.
And always, always, always, Gina and Wayne, it's all for you.
Talk to you a little bit, Victoria.
Later.
