Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, 30 June 2026, Titanic SCOTUS Tuesday

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

The entirely illegitimate SCOTUS bugged out till October today, but not before barely keeping the 14th Amendment on life support while trashing its Equal Protection clause in regard to the tiniest and... most vulnerable majority in the entire country. Ahistorical members of the multimillionaire ForProfit Media declared a "win," when it really wasn't. Fascists never stop attacking. 

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Starting point is 00:00:02 The password is Fury. It's showtime. Here we go, live from behind the corn phone curtain. It's head-on with Roxanne Kincaid. Three hours of cussin and discussin with America's only liberal transvilly elitist right here, right now, on the head-on radio network. Brought to you in part by Cole River Mountain Watch,
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Starting point is 00:03:29 Sylvie is in there waiting. She noted earlier, hello, darling, only one more day before I begin my new job ever so happy. Congratulations, Sylvie. We're all happy for you too. And terribly glad that hopefully you're able to run the lupine pest off your porch. keep it at bay. Hi, I'm Roxanne.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Like I said, it's the final day of June, 2026. The heat dome has descended here over the hills and hollers of almost level west by Cold Trump-Ginia Stan. I ain't complaining, though, because, well, I remember winter, and I despise winter. Here in the fabulous Horn Studios, not exactly watertight these days. but we're working on it I got contacted by the
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Starting point is 00:05:04 But no, here in the fabulous horn studios, it's 76 degrees. It's rapidly approaching, and we may be there by, say, tomorrow or Thursday. It's rapidly approaching that time of year we recognize and have for several years as naked radio. As it is, it's scantily clad radio. God, we don't do video here. But every program here at the Horn begins with gratitude. This program is no different. So thanks go out to our Patreon subscribers.
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Starting point is 00:06:20 I was well Victoria and I were watching an old documentary series on the foods and beverages that led to the modern what we think of was the modern America and there was a segment on
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Starting point is 00:08:52 So, hi, like I said, I'm Roxanne. It is a Titanic Tuesday, and if ever Titanic Tuesday, has been one for Titanic Maggot and White Wing intellect. This is it, and we will delve further into that. as the program goes on. Let's see here. Well, there would give some notes coming in. Jeremy, I wasn't picking on you.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Jeremy said, Jesus, age of Christ, Roxanne. I admitted I was the more in for Monday already. Of course, it's the last day of the month. Yes. And who's... always got to be cute. In this case, it would be our very own Sylvie.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Actually, this is the penultimate day of June, tomorrow being June the 31st. However, 92 years ago today, Operation Calibri began, commonly known as the night of the long knives. Tomorrow, the 31st, will be the
Starting point is 00:10:23 92nd anniversary of Ernst Rome's execution. Yeah, 31st of June, yeah. There's even I think we know by now that I'm a huge Al Stewart fan and oh the history I learned The last day of June 1934
Starting point is 00:10:48 is one of those songs where I learned history And Let me see if I can just call it up here It's such a brilliant lyricist and such a wealth of historical knowledge. It came from the album, Past, Present, and Future. That came out 53 years ago in 1973. And, well, maybe if we play a couple of bars,
Starting point is 00:11:38 you'll understand why it is that I am, in fact, so fond of his work. Oh, and by the way, I should be working, yeah, but I'm buying he such a good boy. Oh, and by the way, I should note that in those albums, that was two albums before Year of the Cat, which came out 50 years ago this year. He was always surrounded by only the best studio musicians that the UK had to offer. in an earlier, much earlier track of his, famously known for being the first song to ever use the word fuck. Actually, it was the participial form, fucking. A song called Low Chronicles.
Starting point is 00:13:50 The guitar fills, the lead guitar fills in there, are a young guitarist by the name of Jimmy Page. Yeah. But that having been said, let me boost. He just, he can't, you know, and of course that predates Al Stewart as well. I think he was born in 1944. And, or maybe 1942. And we'll get into the bulk of the program in a minute.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But Sylvie mentioned Operation Coleribri and the death of Ernst Rome. Let me see if I. I can move forward here just a hair and catch it when he begins to sing. Just, it's so, oh God, it's so atmospheric. Sweat through the cities. I'm danced in the gutters. Grown and strong like the joining of wills. Shoe that you should.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Just a shadow that pines in the air is healed. Earlier in the lyric he sings on the night that Ernst Rome died, voices rang out through the rolling Bavarian hills. Hey, however you learn history is great as long as that history is, you know, not of the alternative variety. Thanks for the reminder, Sylvie. Thank you. Somehow the last day of June 1934 seems to have a certain residence with the residence with the last day of June, 2026. from Carl in Arizona. My and the country's birthday.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Carl says my birthday's coming up on July 3rd, and I've always felt lucky that it falls right before the 4th of July. Growing up, it meant pool parties, lots of food, family, friends, and the kind of memories that made the holiday feel extra special. This year's 250th anniversary celebration made me think about the bicentennial in 1976. I was 11, turning 12, And it felt like a huge event. My family went back to Missouri, where I was born to celebrate and visit relatives.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I remember the TV specials about the Revolution and the Declaration of Independence, the educational programs for kids, and all the shirts, cups, and other bicentennial merchandise. It felt like a special time to be an American. One memory stands out most. My grandmother making a huge sheet cake with the American flag on it to celebrate both my birthday and the bicentennial. I also remember the 4th of July. Celebrations over the years, sitting on the roof with friends, watching fireworks and sneaking wine coolers up there,
Starting point is 00:18:40 then later celebrating with my sister and her family playing music outside and enjoying the night. Unfortunately, celebrating America doesn't feel the same to me anymore. The country I remember and loved has changed so much, and I'm saddened by how much trust and respect we've lost around the world. what should have been a historic celebration of 250 years feels overshadowed by division and things like fascism and outright racism I never imagine seeing I hope someday we can regain the trust respect and sense of hope we once had it may take longer than the birthday celebrations I have left but I hope that day comes take care Roxanne talk to you soon indeed Carl I hope we do talk soon haven't heard from you on the program in rather a while yeah it's this doesn't have the celebratory feeling to it that July 4th 1976 did but we've talked
Starting point is 00:19:58 about that at some length here in fact it feels rather grim and not a hell of a lot to be to be proud of. I had a note earlier from Cynthia. One of my gripes that always pisses me off. Okay, I'm not perfect. I'm a pretty rotten human being. Oh, stop that. In fact, in high school, I had an English teacher who delighted in telling me I was rotten to the core to be sure he did it in jest, but he wasn't far off the mark.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I think he probably was kidding. and so what's my gripe here? I constantly see reporting of this, and I could not agree with you more, of this Supreme Court decision or that, but it feels rare when they report how the justices each voted. I wanted to know how the vote fell and how each justice ruled. If they don't want to bother reporting that, then go away.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I want to fucking know. See, my English teacher was right after all. I don't think that makes you a rotten human being. I think that makes you someone who yearns for a time when journalism was actually committed to doing journalism. I can't, and of course they pretty much lead the program today. But you're absolutely right, Cynthia. The reporting on Supreme Court decisions, I don't know if it's a column inches or, pixels or whatever we measure with these days.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But seldom is the, and maybe it's an expertise problem. After all, journalism often says, among other things, that so-and-so, charged with a crime, was found innocent, when there is no such finding available in the entire American system of jurisprudence. You're either guilty or not guilty. That's pretty much it. and the decisions I saw come out today, the really big ones, so that the creeps could get out of town, well, it was the same thing all over again. It was, for instance, in the case that many of you, knowing they probably expect me to focus on,
Starting point is 00:22:42 the reporting was that the decision was authored. by Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who himself is a father of daughters and coaches his daughters' sports teams in school. It was nauseating. And, as noted, the password is Fury for today. And for damn good reason. But of course, that particular story by National Petroleum Radio couldn't be bothered. To say something like the majority opinion was authored by Justice Brett Kavanaugh,
Starting point is 00:23:34 who remains credibly accused of being a sexual predator during his teenage years when he allegedly tried to rape a girl who was passed out at a party being thrown by a privileged... Uh-oh! I used... Oh! Gosh, I hope Third Way won't get mad. at me over that, a privileged white boy from an upscale Catholic school. Private school, Catholic private school. No, we can't have that. The opinions are bad and the reporting is worse. And just as an aside, NPR also fucked up earlier saying that announcing the retirement of Justice Sammy Bad Breath Alito. And then quickly
Starting point is 00:24:39 uh uh uh just as quickly retracted it saying uh that's not true and we don't know why
Starting point is 00:24:49 somebody hit the uh hit the publish button on an archive story or at least that's probably the backstory to it yeah as far as the roof is concerned
Starting point is 00:25:07 yeah Randy radar says perhaps try Home Depot I ain't got one of those sad fact I'm just going to have to keep trying to cold call it. But while there will be time to talk about the entirely logic and jurisprudence-free opinion regarding trans girls in school sports, I'd rather focus at this point on the birthright citizenship decision
Starting point is 00:26:02 there's plenty to say about the trans girls in sports decision oh plenty but I find the decision about birthright citizenship and the 14th Amendment absolutely and completely terrifying Ah, Brother Deaconesa, re-naked Radio. You done told us about your leakage last week,
Starting point is 00:26:39 and now you're ramming your naked radio nonsense down our throats. This program's a walk and talking to you, my... Hmm. Yeah. Sorry about your throat there, Camel Cardinal. But back to the birthright citizenship case. I think just... as a starting point, we should do a little intellectual exercise.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Namely, let's reacquaint ourselves with the 14th Amendment itself, in particular, Section 1. I say that we should do this in that fashion, because one of the rules of construction of not just the Supreme Court, but just about any court, is that when analyzing a statute or constitutional passage, the court should take care as a matter of law to examine the plain language of the statute. That is to say, not read anything into it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Let the words speak for themselves. And so let's do that. Let's look at the plain language of the 14th Amendment. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside, period. Anybody hear any vagaries in that? Anybody hear any ambiguities in that? because it's vagaries and ambiguities that convey and confer upon the court the necessity to interpret things,
Starting point is 00:29:27 whereas interpreting the plain language is what is often referred to in hushed and hallowed and reverent tones as textualism. seems pretty damn plain to me if you're born or naturalized in the United States if the laws of the United States apply to you that's what subject to the jurisdiction thereof means there I go interpreting are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside
Starting point is 00:30:09 the Congress had I mean you could you could make the argument that The ratification of the 14th Amendment has actually more detail available than the notes on the ratification of the Constitution itself. Congressional practice and procedure had advanced to the point where they knew they were making a record and they did so with dedication and determination. sentence two no state
Starting point is 00:31:02 shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States nor shall any state
Starting point is 00:31:18 deprive any person of life liberty or property without due process of law nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law. Again, we are in an era. It's 1868.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Language can still, English can still be rather florid in its legal form. But it is far more straightforward in 1868 than it was in 1787. And of course, this is all based on an executive order. NITLIT-NRO's Birth Rights Citizenship Executive Order Executive orders cannot have the force of nationwide law
Starting point is 00:32:19 simply because an executive order applies only to the executive branch so far so ordinary, right? So we might think but here we are and again
Starting point is 00:32:49 while the holding to render trans people second or third or fourth or fifth or steerage class citizens at best got an more or less eight to nothing ruling with one minor dissent from Justice Sotomayor bless her heart well we were one stinking vote away
Starting point is 00:33:20 from losing the four 14th Amendment altogether. The saviors of birthright citizenship in this country are as follows. Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Katangi Brown Jackson, the handmaid,
Starting point is 00:33:41 and old balls and strikes. Now, we can read tea leaves all day long until hell freezes over. I think Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson got it right because they are the best legal scholars on that bench.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And it didn't exactly take a secret decoder ring to sort out the language of the 14th Amendment. I don't know why the handmade got it right, but I suspect that old balls and strikes got it right because he's so perilously close to his court, the Venn diagram of his court and the tawny court just being a freaking circle that he didn't want that to happen. I mean, technically it was six to three.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But the problem is that beer is that beer boof and brub-bub-bub-b-b-b-b-brat Kavanaugh and his law clerk squee and quief, while they came down on the right side, Kavanaugh wrote separately to say that he would have he would have struck down the executive order on different statutory grounds and not those of the 14th Amendment. And then of course there's Clarence Pubes on the Coke Can Fappy Thomas, Sammy Badbreath and Frat Boy Neal, all three of whom would have eagerly stripped the citizenship
Starting point is 00:35:41 from babies born to non-citizen parents. That would, of course, have encompassed traitor-tot, precious princess I-wankham a daddy-trump, Kushner, Eric the Dumber, and, of course, big old boron. It might have even affected nitwit Nero, if Miri Trump, Miri
Starting point is 00:36:25 McDonald hadn't become a citizen by the time that Fred Trump decided to make an honest woman of her. I don't know if he made an honest woman over before or after Trump was
Starting point is 00:36:44 Donald was spawned. One vote one miserable, rotten, stinking vote. Jesus Christ. Is that terrifying?
Starting point is 00:37:20 It is to me. That basically means we're one vote away from... Well, hell, we could be one vote away from losing the 13th Amendment. How about some other presumably settled... constitutional principles. How about the right of women to vote? Well, that's the 19th Amendment. Arguably, if we're one vote away from losing the 14th,
Starting point is 00:38:26 and by extension, one vote away from losing the 13th, we're one vote away from losing the 19th, too, and that's what, by the way, the Save Act is about the so-called save act because of course we all know that if you have to show a birth certificate at a polling
Starting point is 00:38:55 place and one is a married woman who has changed her name as a result of marriage well her married name the name on her ID
Starting point is 00:39:11 will not match that of her birth certificate. So, poof! That in the law is considered a constructive outcome, where you don't actually do a thing, but you set up a circumstance in which the thing nonetheless
Starting point is 00:39:33 constructively happens. There's a concept called constructive discharge where someone didn't get fired, the boss just made life so interminably miserable that the person could not continue
Starting point is 00:40:00 working there. I mean, we've got several. The Constitution hasn't been amended a lot, but it has been amended on a number of times. I mean, the 15th Amendment. That's where the government can't
Starting point is 00:40:50 prevent someone from voting based on race, color, or previous status of servitude. I guess we're one vote away from losing that, too. Oh, here's one the maggots will love. I guess we're one vote away from losing the 16th Amendment, the power to collect an income tax. Did you know that there is actually a right-wing movement to abrogate the 17th Amendment?
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's the amendment that says that senators have to be directly elected by popular vote instead of being installed by state legislatures. Jesus. I think, well, the 19th amendment, or the 18th amendment was repealed by the 21st amendment. I don't think any of the members of Congress want to get rid of their hooch. But how about the 22nd amendment? Hmm?
Starting point is 00:42:11 One vote away from the two term limits on the presidency. And in complete candor, I have argued in the past. and in fact, before Barack Obama was president, that the 22nd Amendment was actually anti-democratic, little D Democratic. That could go. Right now it's the 22nd Amendment that sets up the scenario whereby if nitwit Nero drops dead
Starting point is 00:42:53 on or after January the 20th, 2027, Jimmy Dick Bowman, the J.D. Egg, or whatever he's calling himself these days, or whatever his name is on his birth certificate, that's the amendment that would allow him to serve out nitwit Nero's term and then run for two of his own. If you get rid of the 22nd Amendment, nitwit Nero, if he lived, would be able to run for a third term. Maggots have floated that as well. How about taking away the right of D.C. residents to vote in presidential elections? I guess we're a vote away from that, too.
Starting point is 00:43:52 The 24th Amendment eliminated poll taxes. Well, the SAVE Act and voter ID laws are chock-a-block with poll taxes. We might see that one go by-by. The 25th Amendment also speaks to Jimmy Dick Bowman, and we have talked at length. about Newt Witt Nero's status within that amendment. Hey, tired of those pesky teenagers being able to vote? The post-Vietnam War amendment, the 26th, would, well, it gave 18-year-olds the right to vote,
Starting point is 00:44:47 and that could be a good, that any one of these brought by the right 501c3 tax-exempt grift could be the vehicle for overturning it. Now, I wasn't talking, I didn't mention the Bill of Rights, but, well, they're as equally at hazard. I mean, some of them have already been abrogated to the point of laughability. The Eighth Amendment against excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment is essentially, oh, what was the term that old balls and strikes used to describe Humphrey's executive?
Starting point is 00:45:36 that we talked about yesterday? Yeah, it's a husk because a punishment can be cruel but not unusual. A punishment can be unusual but not cruel. And either of those punishments passed constitutional muster.
Starting point is 00:45:57 It's the conjunction that makes the difference cruel and unusual. Then there are the ice goons. Nobody ever talks about the Third Amendment and preventing the government from forcing to
Starting point is 00:46:15 from forcing citizens to quarter troops in their homes, but well, hell, might prove to be cheaper than, you know, putting ice goons and CBP thugs up at the Marriott. These are, without a doubt, terrifying times. And this was a hell of a note earlier today. Fox News TV Radio Rwanda covering the 14th Amendment case had a guest on who took a shot at Sammy Bad Breath Alito. Broad understanding in place carrying major implications not only for immigration policy, but also for how the Constitution is interpreted moving forward. So joining us right now to help us break down what this means for families.
Starting point is 00:47:33 We are joined now by immigration attorney Charles Cook of Cook-Baxter Immigration. Thanks so much for joining us here on Live Now from Fox. Thanks for having me today. Certainly. So let's just break this all down. What does today's decision mean in practical terms? Well, it means a great relief to a lot of individuals in the United States that their children are in fact U.S. citizens or the children born here are citizens. There was a lot of consternation in February 2025 when the president issued his order.
Starting point is 00:48:01 that I had a woman call me who was pregnant, who was in the United States legally as a H-1B visitor, and she was concerned whether she should now have a C-section so maybe it would be born before the deadline that President Trump had put into place. This relieves that anxiety. It also makes clear that what we have understood to be the law for 160 years is, in fact, the law, and that the plain language of the Constitution really does mean what it says. And, you know, we saw that the court relied on the 14th Amendment. Why has that amendment been interpreted for so long as what it is? Well, the interesting thing is that Judge Robert, Justice Roberts...
Starting point is 00:48:43 Jesus, what is it... How low does your IQ have to be to get a job at Fox News, TV, Radio, Rwanda? Just asking. Roberts, in his decision, spent the first 10 pages giving us a history lesson, about the actual language that was ultimately used in the 14th Amendment. And he explained repeatedly, going back to ancient English common law, that when people were born in a place, they were considered to be subjects of that person,
Starting point is 00:49:21 of whether the king or the Lord, wherever they were born. And that carried over to the United States and included carrying over to after the Civil War. Now, the idea of there being, quote, undocumented immigrants in America, they didn't exist in 1866. They wasn't around. But by the time the first challenge to this amendment occurred in 1885, there was a movement among a group of politicians and their people and their followers to say that people whose
Starting point is 00:49:50 parents were not citizens, they could not be citizens of the 14th Amendment. That's a group of politicians. 1880, right. a group of white men and yeah it had to do with Asian people. It's a case called Kim Wong-Arck from 1888, a eerily similar set of circumstances to what gave rise to this year's decision. And Justice Roberts came out the same way, that the language is clear in the 14th Amendment.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And that, if you're an originalist, that's what controls your interpretation. You know, supporters of restricting birthright citizenship have argued that that now hold on there professor cuck no his name really is professor cock uh
Starting point is 00:50:42 that that was that was a textualist opinion not an originalist opinion it can't be an originalist opinion because the leading originalists on the court naming namely
Starting point is 00:51:01 uh clarence pubs on the coke can fappy thomas and sammy bad breath, well, they disagreed. And gosh, almighty, they're the, with the exception of fat dead Tony Scalia, they're the original originalists. That is not what the framers intended. Did today's ruling put that debate to rest legally even? And this is fine, yes. Representing Anna Pavel Laguna. So, our founding fathers
Starting point is 00:51:35 did not anticipate the birth tourism industry. That's where she's getting on her knees in front of Nitwit Niro, because he was barking and grunting about
Starting point is 00:51:46 Chinese birth tourism, baby mamas. When the 14th Amendment was drafted, they didn't anticipate China exploiting this. What about Russians exploiting this?
Starting point is 00:52:00 birth tourism is a bigger thing in say south florida with uh with russians i suspect and it is with chinese nationals coming here but somehow uh Ivan doesn't get a mention it's all right i come here to America because i love my wife and my wife wants to have an American baby uh-huh but we're not going to mention that because well those Those are pooties people. If we allow this to continue, our country will be overtaken by foreign nationals that hate our country. I want to see the United States fall. China's having a party right now.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Oh, Anna Pavel Laguna, you fucking twit. I can imagine somewhere on the Ola Kota Reservation, or a Muskogee reservation or any number of other indigenous reservations. The tribal members there heard that language, said, if we allow this to continue, our country will be overtaken by foreign nationals that hate our country. Yeah. Pity we didn't do something about that 500 years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:33 You set a mouthful, sister. But anyway, back to Professor Cuck. If it might continue politically? You know what's interesting is that when they say, it's not what these people 160 years ago intended when there's very little evidence of what they really intended.
Starting point is 00:53:48 The same people that argue in other contexts, like, for example, the Second Amendment, it doesn't really mean that it's only limited to the militia. They pick and choose which things they want to use for originalism. The actual language in the decision... Good job, Professor Cock.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Well, it's the language of the Constitution Amendment. But Justice Thomas in his dissent adds a phrase to the Constitution, domicile. That is not there. They're literally trying to create a requirement that this be your permanent home for your parents to be in the country. But it's literally not there. They have to create words. So, yes, I get where the opponents of this occur.
Starting point is 00:54:32 But somebody pointed out to me something really interesting today. Justice Alito, who wrote his own dissent in this case. Stand by before we get to this. It's interesting from a propaganda standpoint that when they're talking about these babies, Fox News TV Radio Rwanda shows B-roll of little brown babies, little Hispanic babies. Yeah. It's funny that they don't show little white babies. I mean, I'm pretty sure Russians are pretty damned white.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah? is in fact an anchor baby. His parents were not U.S. citizens when he was born, much like Ted Cruz and other prominent Republicans who are immigrants or the children of immigrants. This amendment is what really makes us America. Wanner Reagan understood this perfectly when he talked about in his final address to the nation, that if people come here, they become Americans. That doesn't happen anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:55:37 and this amendment is a key part of that so if i for one applaud the supreme court i wish it was a nine o decision but we'll yeah i'm a little i'm i'm i'm a little low on my applause meter right now there professor cuck five to four doesn't just fill me with uh confidence oh and and and and and the scenes how you know anchor babies and whatnot no no let's be clear the goddess of irony is great, but she didn't put that one in the mix. No, Sammy Bad Breath is apparently not an anchor baby. He's just a millstone around the neck of the republic. But what of all those white South Africaners who are here now
Starting point is 00:56:34 and having a hard time getting driver's licenses in the Buckeye state? What of their babies? They'll be born here. Donald Trump wants those nice Oh, they're very nice babies He wants them to be citizens I'm sure that their parents will be Rammed right through the citizenship process, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Kind of reminds me of Well, tangentially Reminds me of a long time ago when my babies were little and Ferg and Doodle were in the two-hole or stroller and Margie and my eldest were
Starting point is 00:57:26 walking along with their mama I was working in the courthouse at the time I told the story before and my circuit judge was a Nazi last day of June 1934 notwithstanding and all of that. But I guess my secretary had told Annette that I was down in the judge's chambers. So she just walked down the hall.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It was a short way to his office door. And when I came out of the hearing or whatever, we were going to a doctor's appointment or lunch or something. And the judge stopped to take a gander at my children. who, to be fair, were beautiful babies. He stopped and looked at them and bent down and examined each one of them and said, oh, what beautiful, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white children you have. It's not like this xenophobia and hatred of anyone lighter than the paper. bag they use at the liquor store
Starting point is 00:58:49 is anything or the preference for is anything new so no no no uh Sammy bad breath was not an anchor baby but you do go ahead professor cock it was born
Starting point is 00:59:14 much like Ted Cruz and other prominent Republicans who are immigrants or the children of immigrants this amendment is what really makes us America Ronald Reagan understood this perfectly. When he talked about in his final address to the nation, that if people come here, they become Americans. That doesn't happen anywhere else. And this amendment is a key part of that.
Starting point is 00:59:39 So if I, for one, applaud the Supreme Court. I wish it was a 90 decision, but we'll take what we can get. And now the law is clear, and we can move on, hopefully, to fixing our broken immigration system instead of arguing about it. Oh, my sweet summer child. The law is now settled Simon Simple and Simon Pure. They'll be back and back and back and back. How many cases have the 501c3 tax-exempt grifts gotten to, tried to get before the court to overturn, say, marriage equality and the Obergefell case? How many? It's a near constant effort. Marbarians at the gates never give up. Never, ever.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And it's not settled, and it is still broken, and they will be back. And yet, let's get on to fixing our broken immigration system. Well, I thought Donald Trump already did that, Professor Koch. Constitutional Amendment that was settled 160 years ago. Did that six or three ruling surprise you when you saw that? Oh, I was surprised by Justice Gorsuch. I knew that Alito and Thomas they were going to go against it. That was quite obvious.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I was surprised by Gorsuch, but it turns out that he and Justice Kavanaugh actually agree about what really happened here, because actually this case is not really about the amendment. This case is really about the executive order, which is contrary to federal law. And in fact, Justice Kavanaugh said, I concur. in the judgment because I believe that the executive order is illegal because it contradicts a federal statute. He didn't agree with any other part of the decision. So it was really 5-4. Justice Gorsuch, who wrote a dissent, basically said this was an illegal decision. I don't think people that have babies that are tourists should get citizenship, but it's unclear to me whether
Starting point is 01:01:59 other people, people with long-term residents here whose kids should be citizens. So it's a very vague decision except as the outcome, which is the 14th Amendment means what it says at least in a 5-4 outcome. At least until we get a couple of more hacks on the court to revisit it. So for families who may have been concerned about today's ruling, does anything change for those babies who were born in the United States already going forward? Well, I think people were rushing to get passports for their babies that were born in the United States before this decision. I think I've talked to two of them. at least today that called me that were expressed relief, that they not have to worry about their
Starting point is 01:02:41 children being U.S. citizens. I mean, we are a country that has millions of people that fit this category, tens of millions of fit this category, because we've always had tens of millions of people that fit this category. That's the beauty of the 14th Amendment. It really makes us who we are. So some viewers may be wondering if somebody isn't a U.S. citizen and they have a child here, what right does that child have and what does that mean for the parents? Well, this is really important because a child born in the United States who is not the child of diplomats. So children of diplomats do not become citizens because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. We've all heard about diplomatic community.
Starting point is 01:03:21 That applies to the children. Everybody else whose child is born here, regardless of the status of their parents, regardless how long parents have been here, their children are U.S. citizens. That does not, however, give any benefit to the parents at all. The parents receive no benefit from having a child here. Now, when that child turns 21, they can sponsor their parents for a green card, but if the parents are illegally in the United States, they will have to leave for 10 years to take advantage of that loophole. So at the end of the day, the parents get nothing,
Starting point is 01:03:56 but the children gets the benefit of being born in the country and being the citizen of that country so they can, ultimately swear their allegiance to that country. So we've heard the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of the United States over and over. Can you just explain what that means in plain English? You know, Justice Roberts spent a couple pages on that phrase. That phrase has historic meaning going back to English common law. And it means that subject jurisdiction of that you owe loyalty to the king, you.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So people that don't owe loyalty to the king are expressly reserved to be. diplomats, an ambassador, a consular officer, anybody who carries a diplomatic passport in the United States. Everybody else is subject to the jurisdiction, which means if I commit a crime, I can be arrested and tried here. If a diplomat admits a crime, we have to let them go. And sometimes we let them go even when they're not diplomats, consider the Israeli cyber dude who was busted in Nevada last year. in a child sex trafficking sting. And the Israel Uber Allah's U.S. attorney for Nevada
Starting point is 01:05:09 quietly made it possible for him to just disappear back to Israel and not face any sort of criminal liability. He was not a diplomat, not face any sort of criminal liability for trying to prey on children. Well, that's about enough of that, but Jesus, you know, not much shocks me but and this isn't exactly shocking
Starting point is 01:05:43 well we'll get there in a minute hold on uh Kim Wong Ark Lee in New York says the professor misspoke the case was Wong Kim Ark I mean yeah but after all he's he's
Starting point is 01:06:05 Professor Cuck you know if there was any surprise out of old balls and strikes his opinion today, I'm surprised he didn't go back to the New Testament. Because you know who else had birthright citizenship? St. Paul. Yeah. As Steve in New York just noted,
Starting point is 01:06:42 that doesn't happen anywhere else except it does. It's that. No, when he was charged, St. Paul said, I appeal to Caesar, for I am a Roman citizen, because he was. Didn't work out quite the way he wanted, but he did get a free trip to Rome out of it, where he would sit in a cell and hallucinate about the end of time. He was getting close to the end of his time.
Starting point is 01:07:21 The book of Romans is the New Testament's answer to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. and a dark side of the moon is all about madness, and so is the book of Romans. But one of the biggest fights in ancient Rome, especially in the decline of the republic, was the factions that wanted to extend citizenship to Roman allies, people who had already been conquered, who were effectively Roman anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:54 One high-ranking patrician senator was stabbed to death, assassinated because the other faction was determined that he was trying to extend citizenship outside of Rome itself in order to consolidate power somehow and become King of Rome. But somewhere along the way, Roman citizenship attached to people in Palestine. And so Paul said, I desire to be tried before Caesar. Worth noting that at that time, I'm pretty sure Caesar was... Yeah, Nero. A note coming in from Miss Micah, dumbasses like Professor Cuck are why Roe fell. This fight isn't over.
Starting point is 01:09:11 they want to take another bite at this apple. How long before they pass a law that makes positive pregnancy tests of non-citizens and immediate revocation of their visas? And they make all the health care people mandatory reporters of same. Yeah. And in fact, let's be clear, one of the most toxic of nitwit Nero's toe suckers, we've heard from him on clips of the man from the man who looks like rancid hot dog water smells a so-called legal activist called named Mike Davis
Starting point is 01:10:03 nitwit Niro wanted him to be the U.S. attorney for D.C. and he couldn't even get a confirmation hearing from this belly crawling Senate. That's how horrible he is. Well, he's already in the planning stages. Mm-hmm. And how? He posted recently anticipating a loss in this case today. He said,
Starting point is 01:10:43 If this court lawlessly pretends we fought a civil war and passed subsequent laws to give birthright citizenship to illegal ailerens, we must ramp up third country detainments and mass deportations. with no mercy. So it's going to be an excuse to make as awful as they are, the ice goons and the CBP thugs, even worse. He then said, we must start with birthing aged women.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Adios. That certainly sounds, I don't know, I did not see that coming from Mike Davis. I did not see that. coming from Mike Davis. I did not see that coming from Mike Davis. Imagine that saying out loud that you want to target pregnant women or women of birthing age. I feel like his the excrement that he posted on X, I feel like it probably read more historically accurate in the original German. so maybe call them vermin perhaps.
Starting point is 01:12:42 And nitwit Niro apparently still has plans for Mike Davis. He's not done. Gosh, he couldn't get a confirmation hearing for U.S. Attorney for D.C., but I bet he could get one for Supreme Court justice. And then there's something that happened yesterday that bears mentioning. It's not something that has. happens a lot, and when it does, well, there's something to be a bit unsettled about. Theoretically, the justices of the Supreme Court don't go swanning around hanging out at the Capitol just because of the whole idea of the appearance of impropriety.
Starting point is 01:13:53 But then again, the appearance of impropriety doesn't matter a hill of beans to Clarence Pubes on the Coke Can Fappy Thomas. If they did, he wouldn't be swanning around with Har Har-Haw-Kro and Lee-Lee-Lee. Him and his wife, Jin-Gin. I don't know. Gin soaked. But yesterday, Fappy was seen swanning about the Capitol. Curiouser and Curiouser, said Alice. He had a copy. and some guy with a cop walking with him and some guy with a lanyard he was on the
Starting point is 01:15:00 house side of the Capitol specifically in the idea in the area where the speaker's office is I guess he was just taking the air right right I guess so justice Thomas can we ask you or meeting with today would you say can we ask for you a meeting with his evidence This is it? Who are you meeting with this afternoon? Oh, nobody. You weren't meeting with the speaker, you were in the
Starting point is 01:15:28 Oh, God, no. So what are you doing up here? Oh, just walking. No meetings in particular? I'm going to tell you about. Tomorrow's going to be a big day at the court, not final day of decisions? Oh, I guess so. You want to give us a sneak peek of some of the decisions?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Nope. But you can't tell us why you're up here today. Who are you meeting with? Who are you meeting with, sir? Were you up here for you? Were you up here for any particular reason? No info on who you may have been meeting with? Anyone in House GOP leadership?
Starting point is 01:16:03 That's who has offices in there. Any matters you were up here discussing? And he just continues to shamble along with a big old shit-eaten grin on his face like a fox-eating shit out of a wire brush. Any comment on today's decisions in the end of the Supreme Court term? you have good questions
Starting point is 01:16:33 any comment on the end of the term you have good questions you want to answer you have good questions any of them any comment at all thank you sir thank you sir what the fuck
Starting point is 01:16:54 what the fuck was that what was that old what was that old the sexual abuser up to I don't know if he was telegraphing. I got nothing. But Jesus, he sure was nasty today in his descent in the birthright case and in his concurrence in the case involving trans people. It was nasty.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Lisa Rubin expounded upon. it over at MS now. Since the Civil War, of course, this dates back to the 14th Amendment. Post the Civil War, it was strengthened by the Supreme Court in 1898 with their own precedent confirming birthright citizenship and then codified by Congress. And so this will stay. This is not a surprise, but this is a significant ruling. And if I could just add one thing, I now have a hard copy of the ruling from our producer,
Starting point is 01:18:30 Selena, who was inside. And this is one of the biggest rulings that I have ever been. biggest rulings that I've ever seen. Usually these are really small packets that are stapled together. And this is bound with like a fabric binding here. This is like a book. So this is really, really significant. There are two big dissents, one from Thomas and one from Alito.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Really substantial ruling here today at the court. Antonia? Lisa, can you give me more on what we're hearing from Justice Clarence Thomas through his dissent here? Just how astonishing some of his argument is. Astonishing may be the wrong word. I think disappointing may be another word. I mean, it's certainly predictable based on
Starting point is 01:19:03 oral argument that Justice Thomas is picking up a thread that Solicitor General John Sauer left for him, which is to say that the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment was always designed to imbue the children of slaves with citizenship, but was never intended to give citizenship to people who were temporarily in this country or now the folks that we think of as like birth tourists or undocumented immigrants of any kind. And so Justice Thomas is really drawing a very big distinction, starting with Dred Scott himself between blacks and the children of what he calls foreign temporary visitors. And let me read to you, if I can, a little bit from his dissent, Antonio, which starts, blacks were entitled to citizenship because they were Americans.
Starting point is 01:19:53 They had no other homeland owed no other allegiance to any foreign power, and were subject to no other authority. They fought and bled in the same battles, gained in gloryed in the same victories, and were liable to be called upon to defend America in time of war alongside every other citizen. And there he is quoting writings of Frederick Douglass. But then he goes on to distinguish black Americans and specifically the children of slaves from what he says are the children of foreign temporary visitors.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And I'm going to again pick up from his decision, I'm sorry, his opinion, foreign temporary visitors were attached to their home country, lack similar bonds to this country, and would not be called upon in time of war. Americans, consistent with their settler ethos, believe that citizens were the people who called a place a home. Accordingly, domicile, a person's legal home, played a key role in both state and national citizenship in America. Let me just stop. I wonder if that word domicile from FAPI.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I wonder if, I know I'm a bit far afield on this, but I wonder if maybe Tommy Tuber. down in Florida. I don't know. No, he's not in D.C. I wonder how he feels about that domicile thing. Because, see, the law of the state of Alabama says you'd have to be domiciled in Alabama for the last six years. But, well, four years ago or so, he was a voting in Florida, where his domicile was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Tell the thing. Stop right there. That is the deciding line that John Sauer and the Trump administration laid for the court at oral argument in all of their briefings. They said that the Citizenship Clause does not confer citizenship automatically on everyone born in this country, and not only does it carve out a number of exceptions, but that the phrase subject to the jurisdiction of was not a throwaway language, but that it was intended to say only people who intended to make the United States their permanent home and were willing to give themselves up to the laws of this land could be those who could confer citizenship upon their children. So here you see Justice Thomas sort of taking the bait, drawing a distinction between black Americans on one hand, and those who he calls the children of temporary foreign visitors on the other.
Starting point is 01:22:22 I would say this is a distinction that large swath of the civil rights movement will not accept. We've already heard from the NAACP today in anticipation of this ruling. I've been hearing from the NWACP all week. The civil rights community does not draw the distinction that Justice Thomas is drawing for them with respect to the difference between the children of slaves and their... But see, there's a problem here. I mean, she does a good job. Let me be clear. She does. She does a good job. But this whole business about birth tourism was a red herring, a smokescreen, a faked, a big faked.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Because this was about the children of undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants don't come here wanting to go back to the miserable hell on earth existences. that they previously knew. The dissent in one of the cases last week cataloged what had happened to people who had been sent home from the border. One woman going home to be repeatedly raped by the people who made her want to flee in the first place.
Starting point is 01:23:54 These are the Emma Lazarus people. You're tired, you're poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe, free. I guess nobody's going to be reading that at America 250 on Saturday, huh? But by trying to frame up this bullshit domicile argument and so-called birth tourism, which if it's a thing, it ain't much of a thing, it's an attempt to hide their fundamental racism.
Starting point is 01:24:38 and the NAACP has already opined about this? I'm not surprised. They got it right. But Clarence Pubes on the Coke Can Fappy Thomas could not give less of a Tinker's damn about what the NAACP thinks because, well, he's a self-loathing black man. You know, if you talk to trans people. they will tell you some of us that there was a time usually in childhood where we fell asleep and were raised to say our prayers at night before bed nothing quite as terrifying as contemplating dying in your own sleep as you're talking to the almighty creator of the universe now i lay me down to sleep
Starting point is 01:25:43 my mother was so horrified by that prayer she would make baby quilts and she rewrote the prayer I'm trying to now lay me down to sleep I pray the Lord my soul to keep and she changed it so that the last line was and wake me with thy morning light because even my devout and pious mother having already taught me to pray the original version and well we had a conversation.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Mama, am I going to die in my sleep? No, no. Jesus is looking after you. But I don't know how many of those quilts she gave away baby quilts with that little prayer that ended and wake me with thy morning light. I wonder how many, I wonder how many millennial and Gen X babies there are out there who still have one of Margaret's quilts. But anyway, anyway,
Starting point is 01:27:09 where was I going with that? See, damn it, I go off on a tangent and I get lost. The babies of immigrants, whether they are documented or undocumented. Oh, wait a minute, I think I just pissed off third way again. God damn it, Roxanne. get with the program. Good. Well, no, I know where I was.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yeah. Little trans kids falling asleep and saying their prayers. Well, once we got done with the now I lamies and the God bless mamas and the God bless daddies, the last thing was the prayer. It was just a little conversation with the Almighty to wrap things up. And, well, for the trans kids, a lot of us literally fell asleep playing. saying, in my case, please, God, when I wake up, let me wake up a girl. Please.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Well, Fappy had a different prayer. Please, God, when I wake up, make me a white man. So I won't spend the rest of my life hating myself. Yeah. But Lisa Rubin, as good as her analysis is, I just wish sometimes they could say the plain and obvious things more plainly and more obviously. Now let's let it wrap up. Descendants and others.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah, no, I mean, there's been decades and decades of history of actually sort of shared projects, conversation, community building between the NACP and other Black civil rights organizations and Latino organizations and other immigrant rights groups across the United States. So to me, that's no surprise here. But Veronica, I'm curious how you sort of see the language that Thomas is using here and the sort of the division, I guess, he's trying to create between the descendants of slaves and what he's sort of describing as a repurposed political project. Right. And I think I wonder if some, because context is everything. And I wonder how FAPP would feel about, because, you know, we had a several years long.
Starting point is 01:30:43 kerfuffle over this a decade or so ago or a decade and a half. How does he feel about babies born to parents, one of whom is a citizen and the other of whom is not? And by the way, I said Marianne MacDonald earlier being the mother of nitwit Nero. No, it was Miriam McLeod. There can be only one. She apparently got her citizenship four years Before she squeezed Donald Trump And pushed him out into the world
Starting point is 01:31:30 Later on in her life, toward the end of her life She would be caught on a hot mic Asking her disgusting former clansman husband, Freddy, Fred. My God, what kind of monster did we create talking about Donald yeah so thanks for the correction there I appreciate it oh it makes my head hurt because I can't tell you how many times I've seen today language well the decision ends a fight that blah blah blah and just like Ms. Micah said no it doesn't they're not going to stop just as we discussed in the mail-in ballots case,
Starting point is 01:32:38 the Supremes know that the Postal Service is trying to craft a rule whereby they can refuse to deliver mail of states that don't deliver to them their voter rolls. And you know what? The Postal Service will enact that rule public comment closes fairly soon they'll enact the rule they will be sued
Starting point is 01:33:08 a U.S. District Court judge will enjoin it the Nittlet Nero administration will run off to this same court saying emergency emergency
Starting point is 01:33:23 and the court will then in advance of the election lift the injunction allowing the rule to go into effect until such time as it makes its way all the way through the courts up to the Supreme Court where they will say that Nitwit Niro and his Postal Service have the absolute right to have the voter rolls of every voter in the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Huh? See how it works? Sure. And by the same token, when Mike Davis is out there blathering, about targeting birthing age women not even pregnant women but women of birthing age let's be
Starting point is 01:34:24 clear when does a girl get her first period which defines her as birthing age 11, 12 sometimes even earlier well that means deportation of children
Starting point is 01:34:43 all the way up to perimenopausal and menopausal women This is one of those moments where I hate being so far out ahead of the curve. It's like being on straight road. And remember this case, you know, we went over Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. Section 1 also contains the due process and equal protection clauses. And if you remember the concurrence in Jackson Hole Women's Health versus Dobbs, Fappy Thomas wrote a concurrence
Starting point is 01:35:39 in which he begged Various and sundry 501C3 tax-exempt grifts Christian Of course To bring him cases that he could use To overturn every substantive due process case In the country
Starting point is 01:36:02 Except of course for Loving v. Virginia which enabled his marriage to Jensuk Jinn. Right? Yeah. By the way, I should make mention of the fact that this is a conversation radio program. And if you've got something to say on the topic or any other topic, anything. Please feel free to chime in. The stress line number, of course, 844-843-4676-844-the-horn.
Starting point is 01:36:56 And via Discord, you're free to jump in in the old holler tree and share your thoughts. By the way, yesterday, and this is a fundraising free radio day, yesterday Ralphs had a challenge on the table that went unfulfilled. That was the, Donnie is a real live, no-kitting felon challenge. And if anybody wants to meet that, thank you, Ralphs for putting it out there. and it would be helpful very helpful court watchers are saying that trust
Starting point is 01:37:48 is broken among the members of our most puissant dread sovereign supreme Catholic majesties again over at MS now Nicole Wallace
Starting point is 01:38:05 hosted Dahlia Lithwick from Slate and she's a fantastic along with Mark Joseph Stern they're both fantastic court watchers and damn fine analysts and Dalia Lithwick
Starting point is 01:38:27 took a run at just how toxic the relationships are on the court no matter how many times old balls and strikes says that oh no we We love each other.
Starting point is 01:38:42 It's just wonderful. Oh, before we go there, though, a couple of notes. Third way, Jimmy says, just say, girl, those people and help me. What the hell is a tourist baby? Thanks for hipping me to this topic. Jimmy, I wish I didn't have to. And from Wave, subject line, Uncle Clarence Ruckus,
Starting point is 01:39:14 one of the finest and most biting animated social commentaries is boondocks i agree now this takes context and timeline to focus wave says i have two suspensions and one revocation on our politics over on reddit one uncle clarence two bullets for billionaires post luigi based on the state of the world today those are the two hills i choose to digitally die on and self-censor drum roll even though we are here on Rock's Media of the Horn.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I had a dream. I was playing Roblox in a dream that was fiction, and in this dream they were doing graphic, brutal things to both Elon Musk and Stephen Miller. We're talking decapitated heads as jackal anards. I'm medicated today, Wave says, and those images are just horrible. If I were to be hospitalized, I wouldn't want to incorrect. answer danger to myself or others. Big sarcastic sigh.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I'm going to maybe call Joel Osteen and ask for forgiveness for my imaginary sins. Also, remember that thing that we talked about with that preacher at Fountain Blue? We were ahead of the curve on that one. I think I heard Tim Dillon ten minutes on it. Don't newsies get paid for those kind of scoops? Oh, well. And that, by the way, was Jerry, Jerry. Falwell Jr. That's who
Starting point is 01:40:46 Wave's referring to. Oh well, look, our headlights headed towards us. So far ahead of the curve, that's the event horizon. Peace and love from Wave. Thank you, Wave. God, maybe we should change the name
Starting point is 01:41:02 of the program to Event Horizon. That's good, Wave. And this is kind of a not very Ramalama, ding-dong kind of day because It's hard to feel particularly victorious over this birthright citizenship case when essentially equal protection is gone for a tiny minority of Americans
Starting point is 01:41:34 who weren't touched by the birthright citizenship decision but had their equal protection rights ignored out of hand. But anyway, back to Dalia Lithwick. talking to Nicole Wallace about the, well, the decaying state of civility in the court. Wong-Kam-Ark. And I think that the majority opinion very ably explains the ways in which all of those ways in which we interpret the Constitution and decide constitutional questions all point in exactly the same direction. everyday people on the street understand the rule if you're born in this country, you are a U.S. citizen. Now, unfortunately, there were justices who saw it a different way, but those are dissenting opinions, and the court's decision, the majority here, reaffirms this really bedrock constitutional rule
Starting point is 01:42:35 and ensures that these children will remain citizens for the rest of their lives. Dahlia, let me ask you about something that's come up every day this week, and that is the personal nature of the text of the decisions. I mean, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson making no secret about how she sees the dissent. Samuel Alito calling the majority, quote, wrong. What stands out to you? I mean, I think if you read Justice Jackson, first of all, to be clear, it is a clinic on how to do constitutional text and history and originalism and how to do it right. And so for folks who want to read, like if you really believe that you go back to history and you go back to text and meaning, they should read Justice Jackson. But she's very clear.
Starting point is 01:43:33 This is a direct response to what she thinks. Justice Thomas has just gotten woefully wrong in his dissent. And in a sense, that feeling that she has to take him on on his own terms, it's not that we never see this. But I think you're right to say aggregated over the last few weeks, right? You and I talked last week about sniping between justices Alito and Sonomayor over a dissent that she read. there just seems to be a sense that trust is broken among the justices and that there is a feeling that the skin is very, very thin, and that everything is personal and everything is expressed personally. I want to read from Justice Jackson's concurrence, the part where she calls out, Justice Clarence Thomas. She writes us, despite his longstanding and.
Starting point is 01:44:34 endorsement of a colorblind constitution, Justice Thomas now surprisingly suggests that the citizenship clause was a race-conscious remedial measure relating only to, quote, freed slaves such as Dred Scott, and those who shared with them certain characteristics. It is for this reason, he says, that, quote, children who were born in the United States, but to parents not domiciled here, are not entitled to claim birthright citizenship. But that narrow vision of the 14th Amendment, bears little relationship to the history of its ratification. Even worse, Justice Thomas's telling leads the entire point of the second founding. The reconstruction amendments were anti-cast, anti-subordination reset for the nation,
Starting point is 01:45:20 not a mere spot treatment for the dark stain of slavery. She seems to be getting at something, and again, not a lawyer, not a Supreme Court journalist like you are, But she seems to be getting at something that kind of hovered over the voting rights decision as well. What is this about? It hovered over the affirmative action decision. I mean, this is to the extent that there is a progressive originalist on the court. And by the way, it hovered over her confirmation hearing as well. She is very committed to the principle that if you...
Starting point is 01:45:58 And the clip ends there. And look, I talk about dissents rather. a lot on this program. They have no force in effect. Let's be candid. A dissent is meaningless in the present. A dissent is exactly what it says. It is a refusal to agree with a majority's bad opinion, or what the author considers to be a bad opinion.
Starting point is 01:46:42 But they have historic, importance. As I've said before, no one remembers the names of the majority in Plessy versus Ferguson. We remember the name of Roger Taney only for how manifestly evil he was. I suspect we will remember Fappy Thomas, Sammy Bad Breath, and Old Balls and Strikes, not to mention Beer Boof and Brat and the Frat Boy, too, for their manifest evil. but dissents provide a sort of guidepost to the future in which a visionary like Justice John Marshall Harlan in Plessy can roar with righteous fury, there's our password,
Starting point is 01:47:59 the evils perpetrated by the majority. his dissent is remembered and was remembered all the way down the line even as thurgood marshal was arguing brown versus board of education in front of the supreme court and beginning to try to dismantle jim crow and segregation in the united states the advocates for true freedom had that dissent in hand and were able to argue to a court more open, slightly more open, that Justice Harlan got it right, while the tired old racist white men, other white men, got it wrong. and that's where dissents come in. A dissent well done is a teachable moment, just like what Justice Jackson did, with so-called originalism,
Starting point is 01:49:46 which I still maintain as a fraud, as she basically, it was a very, it was a very judicial and judicious way of doing it, but she did what Wave did. She called Fappy Uncle Ruckus. They don't like each other. The mail-in ballot case,
Starting point is 01:50:24 Sammy Badbreath attacked the handmaid because the handmaid got to author the decision. She wrote the five-to-four opinion that said mail-in ballots can allow. arrive after election day. The bottom line, I think, is that the majority of this court, certainly where Beerboof and Brat and The Handmaid and Anne's boy Neil are concerned, are illegitimate.
Starting point is 01:51:13 They have burned their legitimacy up in racist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, and billionaire-philic diatribes. And now, well, now, and Micah and I were discussing this earlier today, and it's cold comfort, I know, but it's what you get when, and I kind of wish,
Starting point is 01:52:03 the name checking here, I kind of wish David in Oregon was available, but I imagine he's either at work or on his way home from, and that's a long drive. But it would be nice to have someone else who, Steve, God, billable, it would be nice to have someone who also spent three years having their brains rearranged in law school to talk about that. and maybe that's the fundamental difference between where Micah is in her mind and her heart and where I am in mine.
Starting point is 01:52:47 I'm not happy. I'm furious. But I also was raised in a tradition wherein, you know, Moses didn't get to see the promised land. Or Moses didn't get to enter the promised land, but Moses did get to take a peep at it before, you know, Joshua took them on in, and at least according to the Bible, took all that land from the people who were already living there. Micah is angry and hurt, and she says, I can't stand maggots. I do not regard them as my countrymen.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I wish neither civility nor any relationship with them, wherever possible, professional, or otherwise. And Plessy was overturned 60 years after. Not quite. Assuming the same, I'll be around 100 by the time I can be a fully legally protected person again, so forgive me if that's cold comfort. The legally ease is nice. I frankly don't care by the time it gets down to my level.
Starting point is 01:54:15 I care about the actual results and effects, but yeah, I guess that's a difference. Well, the first thing to understand about this horrifying decision today is that it is not national in scope. That is fairly clear. That's abundantly clear. Beer Bufin, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B Ratt Cavanon, his law clerk, squee and Cueh, wrote the opinion for the majority. A more or less 9 to nothing majority with regard to one case and an 8 to 1 majority in regard to another. That in itself is repulsive, and it goes to solidify my argument. made in the past several days and in fact the past several years
Starting point is 01:55:13 that there is no such thing as a liberal on the Supreme Court the law by definition is as conservative as army ants it is dedicated to the protection of the status quo as if we define the status quo as whatever the people who have power want it to be.
Starting point is 01:55:53 And power, as other great thinkers have pointed out, does not willingly seed power. Power does not give itself up. Rights must be wrested from it. That's the lesson of every
Starting point is 01:56:21 single bit of progress that this nation has ever made from its very inception. And if I'm going at this rather methodically, it's because I don't want to just devolve into screaming. Today's ruling was about trans girls and trans women in competitive sports, sort of. It has no bearing on my life.
Starting point is 01:57:20 I'm way too old to run. run track in high school. I already live in a state where it is ostensibly a crime for me to use the ladies' room in a state government-owned facility, whether it be a turnpike travel plaza, the DMV, or the capital itself, not to mention every public school in the state, from elementary schools to college. but this particular case, which in part arose from West Virginia, does not directly impact me. That does not mean that it doesn't infuriate me. And I have spent the better part of the day trying to frame and formulate how to cogently explain this case. I'll start by saying, I don't know what the fuck is wrong in this case
Starting point is 01:58:47 with Katanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan. Maybe they just hate the transies too. Maybe they've bought the unmitigated horse shit that is the entire trans women in women's sports bullshit advertising campaign because it is not a real issue. Not by any stretch of the imagination, with the exception
Starting point is 01:59:20 of the tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny minority of trans girls whom it directly affects, one of whom is a girl in West Virginia. I think she's 15 now. But I want to start this discussion by noting that by reference to a previous case. Do you remember it 303 creative, the case,
Starting point is 02:00:07 brought by a tax-exempt Christian grift, ostensibly on behalf of a woman, a wedding website designer in Colorado, who said, oh, mercy, my deeply held religious beliefs prevent me from ever, ever making a website for some queer couple again. getting married. Who save me, Supreme Court?
Starting point is 02:00:49 It, of course, was brought by that fraud factory, the Alliance defaming Freedom. And, of course, our most puissant, dread sovereign, Supreme Catholic majesties ruled, well, you poor baby! Of course you shouldn't have to make a web be forced to make a website, for some queers. Tell or
Starting point is 02:01:23 what a nightmare. Religious liberty will die in America if we start forcing people to make websites for queer weddings. Remember that case?
Starting point is 02:01:49 Do you also remember in that case that it eventually came out that the gay couple that she was afraid she might have to make a website for didn't even exist. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 02:02:17 The entire case was predicated upon a fraud upon the court. When some enterprising pixel-stained wretch finally caught up with the man whom the alliance demeaning freedom and whoever that good God fear and upstanding Bible believe in Christ-centered, evil, evangelical, governmentalist, Amosexual Christian woman, what web designer was, when they finally caught up with, the guy said,
Starting point is 02:02:49 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I'm a straight man. I'm married to a straight woman. And I don't, I have never had anything to do whatsoever with the website lady. But, our most puissant dread sovereign,
Starting point is 02:03:15 and Supreme Catholic Majesties replied, Doesn't matter. We're going to decide the case anyway. Because religious liberty is at stake. This case is the same thing to a certain extent. I will explain. Sorry about the size. This is exhausting for me.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Some days I'm excited to get behind the microphone. Yesterday was one such. Most days I'm excited to get behind the microphone. This was one of those where I wasn't, but I also felt a sense of obligation because, well, thank you to those of you who reached out to me and said, hey, you okay. And I'm like, not really. This case was limited in scope, but it has horrifying implications for the future. Haley in Arkansas wrote to me and she said, or commented on a post I made. and she said
Starting point is 02:04:35 this is just the camel's nose under the tent this is ultimately part of a grand scheme in which they start with the smallest and weakest minority of the LGBTQ plus community
Starting point is 02:04:54 ah there I went I did it again I pissed off the fucking third way people god damn it but after they've erased us they'll come after the elves the G's and the bees.
Starting point is 02:05:13 You know, it's that whole Pastor Martin Nemoler poem. Right. Right. And thank you, Felicia. Felicia sent me a message and I want to acknowledge it because I really, really appreciated it. She said, you okay
Starting point is 02:05:41 after today's Supreme Court ruling? I just don't get it and I'm sorry. I told her the decision was basically eight to one with a tepid descent. And I said eventually they'll come for the grown-up to and she said these are gut punches black people can't vote women have no autonomy trans children are excoriated where are we and please take good care thank you felicia that meant more to me than you may know but back to fraud upon the court today's case was decided based upon a pair of cases
Starting point is 02:06:30 that had been consolidated for purposes of ruling and it was for a very particular reason. One case arose from a college student in Idaho who challenged their trans sports band. By the way, and I'm not
Starting point is 02:06:54 leaving the trans guys out of the mix here. This is not about you guys, so when I say trans women, I mean trans women because they don't care about trans guys in sports. They figure that the real men will just beat the shit out of
Starting point is 02:07:14 until they realize they're not men after all. Never mind the fact that in testing performed by the Air Force, transmen outperformed their cis male. Ah, I pissed off the third way again. Their cis male counterparts in almost, if not every aspect of testing. You go, guys. Love you bunches. But none of these athletic bands even take trans guys into consideration.
Starting point is 02:07:47 that should have been the first clue that should have been the great big blinking neon light that this wasn't about women in sports the fact that hundreds of cis girls play in boys high school sports every year should have been another clue you know Colonel Mustard in the billiard room
Starting point is 02:08:16 with the Supreme Court petition. But back, I'm sorry, getting ahead of myself. Two cases, a college student in Idaho, and a girl for whom the case started when she was in fucking middle school. And the two cases could not have been more different. Among other things, the young woman in West Virginia, Becky Pepper Jackson, with the exception of her, of what happened to her about six weeks after conception, when her, presumably, nobody's ever seen her chromosomes, why chromosome triggered a flood of testosterone,
Starting point is 02:09:19 with that single exception, her young body has never been poisoned by testosterone. Her body has never been wrecked by a male puberty. This is important. Meanwhile, the girl out in Idaho, her last name is Hickox, said after she filed her legal challenge and was subjected to everything from slurs to fucking death threats, of which the Supreme Court took exactly zero goddamn notice, well eventually she said fuck it i give up i'm i'm moving to dismiss my suit again bear in mind she was the plaintiff she had an absolute right to dismiss her suit but in a situation that i'm not familiar with in any
Starting point is 02:10:37 other circumstance the court said nope we're not going to let you let you dismiss your suit we're going to make you go on living with the death threats and the slurs and the online attacks and the torment and the torture because we've got to protect women. This is very, very important because if these two cases had not been consolidated, if Becky Pepper Jackson of West Virginia's case had been the only case considered,
Starting point is 02:11:08 there might have been a different outcome. At least that's what Sotomayor's dissent suggests. But no, they forced that young woman to continue the litigation against her own will and against the will of her own counsel. Imagine that. You file a suit, you say, I made a mistake.
Starting point is 02:11:48 I want to dismiss it. If it was a car wreck case, the court would sign right to hell off. Divorce petitions, let alone tragically, domestic violence cases, are dismissed by the plaintiff on almost a daily basis. But not this young woman
Starting point is 02:12:10 because they needed her to be in the case. Because they needed the fig leaf of a fraud upon the court. So that Hacksaw Jack Sauer and whichever lawyer
Starting point is 02:12:37 from whichever tax example grift could stand there and bark about the advantages of a male body against poor helpless, poor helpless, defenseless, weak little girls. And so they compelled the case to go forward. Now, in her dissent, Sotomayor said, I would have referred Becky Pepper Jackson's case back to the district court for further proceedings so that it could be determined once and for all whether she has some sort of unfair advantage over her fellow athletes.
Starting point is 02:13:34 But her two liberal justices, liberal. And, of course, our most puissant dread sovereign Supreme Catholic majesties led by a man who is credibly accused of having, as a teenager, tried to rape a passed out girl of 15 years, roughly the same age as Becky Pepper Jackson, said, oh, hell no, oh, no, no. And so Kavanaugh's decision attempts to thread a needle. What they did today, they did not say,
Starting point is 02:14:27 as the tax-exempt grift and all the people who benefit from this campaign of hatred, wanted, they did not say that no trans girl can ever compete in women's sports. They just said, it's okay if a state wants to discriminate against trans girls, that the states where they discriminate against trans girls, those states are not violating the equal protection clause. That it's states rights. Yeah, that's right. We're straight back to Plessy all over again, you know, as well as, you know, dread Scott.
Starting point is 02:15:19 But at least we got a whimper out of Sonia Sotomayor. But the case with Becky Pepper Jackson just makes me fucking sick. I mentioned, you know, the now I lay knees and the please Jesus let me wake up as a girl. Prayers that so many of us prayed. little Becky started going to school, dressing and living as the little girl she is, in third grade. Third grade. While she was in elementary school, she wanted to run in the... because sports tend to be mixed in elementary school
Starting point is 02:16:26 and she just wanted to run. And sometime toward the end of elementary school, her coach pulled her aside and said, honey, I appreciate the fact that you like this, but you come in last all the time. It's important to note that this is in pre-puberty. She's functionally no different than any other student she's going to school with male or female.
Starting point is 02:17:01 But the coach, being compassionate, said, you know, maybe you might want to try another track and field event. Maybe the discus. Or maybe the shot put. A little bit of irony goes with that, because when I was in junior high school, they were like, well, you're never going to go anywhere with the high hurdles. Or the 100-meter dash, 100-yard dash.
Starting point is 02:17:36 or the relay, here, go try shot put, hand to God. I wonder a shot put in discus are where you put the lost causes. But anyway, she did. She wanted to continue to participate and enjoy the camaraderie. So she started working, again, still no testosterone. around, she started working on learning how to do the shot put. And if you've ever seen it, you know,
Starting point is 02:18:26 it's kind of a thing. You've got to tuck the shot up under your chin and you've got to stay in a circle and there's a whole, there's a whole method and right way of doing things and you spin around in a circle to build
Starting point is 02:18:42 some sort of, I guess, centrifugal motion power, whatever, and then you put the shot. and whoever puts it the furthest wins. She worked on that day and night. She worked on it constantly. Nothing but grit and determination and hard work.
Starting point is 02:19:13 Still no testosterone. Because when she got old enough, before puberty could set in and do its damage, back when this could still happen in West Virginia, her mother, who loves her, made sure that she got on puberty blockers. And so there was no puberty. There was no male advantage,
Starting point is 02:19:51 even though the idea of male advantage has largely been discredited by no less than the International Olympic Committee in a study a year or two ago. Trans women actually have a harder time competing in women's sports. than their cis counterparts. Oh!
Starting point is 02:20:13 I'm going to get a cease and desist letter from those assholes at Third Way. God damn it. And while she was in middle school, the one child in West Virginia, one, who having been assumed male at birth, had lived as the girl she is from,
Starting point is 02:20:47 what, age eight? that's about third grade isn't it beginning as attorney general and later on as governor fat fatty pat Morrissey the pill rolling pill push and Trenton troll aided and abetted by the maggot legislature of the state of west virginia began a jihad against Becky they brought in that miserable grifting grievance artist loser Riley Gaines, who got her ass handed to her by three cis women live with it third way, to come in and foment absolute hatred against Becky Pepper Jackson. Oh, they had a rally at the Capitol. She whipped people into a frenzy so that it was at a track meet last year. The other girls with whom she was competing forfeited.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Can we take a moment to wonder how that made her feel? None of that, however, was addressed by our most puissant dread sovereign Supreme Catholic majesties. None of it. The case, because she sued, just like Ms. Hickox did out in Idaho, wound its way through the federal court. She went into the United States District Court. The United States District Judge took one look at the pleadings and one look at the complaint, one look at the answer and said, oh, fuck, no, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:22:58 This is a howling violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution of the United States and laid out at length why it was. Because you have to understand, not just with this case, but with almost every other area of law, our most puissant dread sovereign, supreme Catholic majesties, are at war with the federal judiciary beneath them. They don't care what the judges who actually hear the case, weigh the
Starting point is 02:23:33 evidence, apply the rules, and reach conclusions of law and fact, think they have an agenda to pursue. That's one of the things that makes them utterly, completely, and totally
Starting point is 02:23:48 illegitimate. So, Faddy-Patty went running, off to the fourth United States Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond and yelling, oh God, no, the poor
Starting point is 02:24:09 women, oh, he doesn't give a shit about anything that happens to women in West Virginia, cis or trans. All those cis girls that they cajoled into hating Becky have absolutely no other rights over the workings
Starting point is 02:24:32 of their bodies, and should they be raped, will be forced to give birth. And the Fourth United States Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond took one look at Fattie and said, go the fuck home. And maybe push back from the dinner table a little more often. And a little sooner. The United States District Court for the Northern District of West Virginia was absolutely right. Injunction upheld.
Starting point is 02:25:17 Then Faddy Patsy. went galumphing off to D.C., yelling, emergency, emergency! And the court, a majority of our most puissant, dread sovereign, supreme Catholic majesties, told him to fuck off and go home that it was not an emergency. In former decades, this would have been a slam dunk. The petition might not even have been granted for him,
Starting point is 02:26:01 hearing by a competent court instead of an agenda-driven gang of fascists and religious go home. And it was after that that the Hecox case was kept on the docket and refused to allow to be dismissed because that gave them the hook upon they could hang, upon which they could hang their vulgar hats. their hoods. So now, at 15, maybe 16, she's going to be thrown off of her track team. Maybe they'll say,
Starting point is 02:27:17 Hey, if you want to play sports, come play with the boys, that's what you are. Again, when every girl against whom she has competed, and yes, she has won in the shop hood by grit and determination and hard work not because of the assumption that was made by some exhausted doctor when she was born she gets deprived of something that nationwide we declare to be a critical element of a child's education participating in sport In fact, Nitwit Nero is going to, is reinstating the presidential physical fitness test.
Starting point is 02:28:29 Because sports are so important to the educational experience. The whole thing is sickening. The whole thing is brutal. The whole thing is hateful. And I am so ashamed of Katanji Brown Jackson and, uh, Elena Kagan, I could vomit. But of course, there was some horse-trading going on. We've talked about this before.
Starting point is 02:29:14 There's no doubt in my mind there was horse-trading going on. Yeah, well, we'll give you a five to four, barely made it past the post-ruling, upholding the plain language of the 14th Amendment. But we get to shit on the little trans girl, okay? and Elena Kagan and Katangi Brown Jackson said, Sounds good to me, boss. I said I wanted to be measured about all this, and I'm all written. I'm not measured. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:29:57 Just to be clear, I'm not sure about the status of the statute in Idaho, but the statute in West Virginia singles out trans girls. It doesn't say anything about trans girls. boys because this was never about sports. This isn't even about, this is about the perversion of the maggot white wing because they can't stop thinking about the genitals of children. It's nauseating. I'm sure Riley Gaines has been out there barking and grunting all day long, but again, yesterday
Starting point is 02:31:07 the Supreme Court of the United States told, Donald Trump, that in fact he is a sexual predator, and Riley Gaines still hasn't denounced him but says she wants to protect women and girls. Nitwit Niro barked and grunted about it as well. It was sickening. And of all people, melanoma decided to unburden herself of her poorly enunciated thoughts.
Starting point is 02:31:55 The pedophile in chief said, Big win, the United States Supreme Court just ruled against men playing in women's sports. Wow, that takes that ridiculous situation off the table, but it won't. There's an election season coming, and anti-trans advertisements will be all over the goddamn airwaves, and you can mark my words and take down the date and the time. But then melanoma chimed in, saying on, posting an excrement on X, As many of you may know, I fully support the LGBTQIA plus community, but we must also ensure that our female athletes are protected and respected.
Starting point is 02:32:44 She quoted her own stupid book. America, we can support the rights of the LGBTQIA plus community and also protect opportunities for female athletes. Respect everyone and keep girls sports fair. Fair? Boys, girls, or intermural. Sports have never been about fairness. Ever!
Starting point is 02:33:16 Yeah, she's going there. All the way back to the Olympiads of ancient Greece. If you thought FIFA is corrupt... Jesus Christ, I watched the Netherlands match with Morocco last night. What the fuck? Those Netherlands men just mailed it in. It reminded me of when I watched my beloved Mountaineers, you know, back during the Neeland years,
Starting point is 02:33:52 when they'd have a one or two point lead with, you know, the second half to go, and Don Neelan would immediately move in to prevent defense, you know, because, well, and we all know, you know, American-style football fans know the only thing the prevent defense ever does is prevent you from winning. But if you thought FIFA was corrupt, ah, well, the Olympics of ancient Ath and ancient Greece put them to shame.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Sports have never been fair. If sports were fair, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Javar, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Jerry West, would never have been allowed to play because they had unfair advantages. Jerry West of Cabin Creek, West Virginia, had an unfair advantage because night after night, day after day, he practiced. He worked on his jump shot.
Starting point is 02:35:06 He worked on his free throws until he was the best player in all of West Virginia and quite possibly the entire United States and maybe the world in 1960. Grit, determination, and hard work, just like Becky. Yet Melanoma, you don't support the LGBTQIA plus community. You probably don't know what the A stands for. The I is meaningless to you. You like the G part because your hubby has so many. toxic gay men in his administration, and you might have a little thing for the L part,
Starting point is 02:36:08 and maybe the B. I mean, you did, after all, accept money in exchange for taking your clothes off, for the sexual gratification of anyone who might want to look at your pictures. As far as Justice Sonia Sotomayor's dissent is concerned, she did note that the majority got it completely wrong and said that in any of these 27 states, a trans girl couldn't join her school's team even if she would not take anyone spot in an eventual competition.
Starting point is 02:36:58 Literally, a trans girl can't even warm the goddamn bench. A trans girl cannot be on the dummy squad. The practice squad, the scrubs. But here we are. So, as I said, there will be further efforts because that means that there are 23 states that are still civilized and let trans girls compete. I imagine one of the earliest dominoes to fall will be California, where they're already at work on it. And Gavin Newsom supports some bullshit scheme where if a trans-greens... girl wins first place
Starting point is 02:37:50 whoever came in second gets to say that the cis girl who came in second gets to say that she came in first two sickening yeah that well I mean that that's something that will happen that happens every
Starting point is 02:38:13 night Lee may I suggest some time with the golden one to reduce blood pressure after the show yes and you know what there's going to be a post show snack yesterday's post show snack as I mentioned in a reference to reberbo
Starting point is 02:38:31 yesterday's post-show snack was hot pastrami on thin seedless Jewish rye with Havardi coleslaw and Russian dressing I posted a picture of it on on blue sky and hi-cam Kim was like oh that looks so yummy tonight it's going to be a reuben
Starting point is 02:38:57 I've got the dark pumpernickel I'm going to grill it hot corn beef, sourcrow, baby Swiss, Ken's Steakhouse, Thousand Island dressing. By the way, Jeremy yesterday said, yeah, you mentioned Ken's Steakhouse Dressing on the program. Look what my browser tried to sell me immediately thereafter, and there it was.
Starting point is 02:39:25 It was an ad for Ken's Steakhouse Dressing. See, these unpaid product placements, well, they mean something. Lee asking melanoma LGBTQIA plus When did the V for vampire get added? I hate horse trading Because we always wind up with the horse that's been fed gunpowder
Starting point is 02:40:03 That'll make a horse seem real perky Until you get it home and it dies Don't look a gift horse in the mouth That's because if you do You're going to find out it's not much of a gift Ah Jesus Oh By the way, because we got to talk about the important stuff.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Oh, what's that Reverbo? Name check Reverbo. Has anyone asked you besides me to stop the Melania Logosie impression? Because it's just too much. You simply have to stop doing that. On the other hand, never stop. I never will. And, Micah, with a point.
Starting point is 02:41:25 Fuck you, melanoma. If you support the LGBTQIA plus community, you should divorce that pathetic orange poor excuse for a husband you have, and why don't you self-deport? Because it's really nice here, and I don't much like Slovenia. I wonder if she'll even visit precious princess I wankham a daddy-Trump Cushner's new castle in Albania. That's perilously close to Savonia, Slovenia. Yeah, Ralph's melanoma.
Starting point is 02:42:13 Be best! But we have important things to talk about. we wrap the program up. We talked about how, and, you know, it was just a couple of years ago that Nitt Witt Nero was barking about, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. Well, now Nittwit Nero's killing the ducks. Yeah, the epoxy that they used for the reflecting pool is toxic. It's toxic to aquatic life on a long-term basis.
Starting point is 02:42:53 that's why ducks have been found floating feet up dead it's a substance called rhino 405 a
Starting point is 02:43:16 ooh here's a fun word for a hillbilly to learn a fixotropic high viscosity epoxy resin yeah the OSHA safety data sheet according to Patriot takes says it is toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects
Starting point is 02:43:35 and is an irritant that can cause allergic skin reactions. Well, maybe that's what's running up nitwit Nero's neck. Maybe he went bathing. Jesus. From Matt in San Francisco, four in ten Democrats agree. I just read it, Matt says. That's the number of Democrats that agree with banning trans girls from participating in girls' sports. What folks need is to be educated.
Starting point is 02:44:18 This decision is going to cause more violence. to be heaped upon trans women. More microaggressions. Fuck third way. Yes, fuck third way. More deaths, especially trans women of color. I hate that this is where we find ourselves. Me too, Matt.
Starting point is 02:44:35 I hate that people with power and the money to steer a national conversation have decided trans women, girls in sports is the issue that must be addressed immediately. Fascists need an other. Oh, oh, oh, Matt. You didn't say fuck third way because we're not supposed to. talk about othering either. If we really believed in never again, they would have been stopped before they even started beating the drum of hate. I wish I could hit the fast forward past all the bullshit that lays ahead.
Starting point is 02:45:07 But unfortunately, the only way to get to the other side of this is to go through it. This is some fucked up shit. Yeah, it is. And I know it's cold comfort. Micah told me as much and said as much here. She'll be a hundred years old. but it will not always be this way. Chaos is self-correcting.
Starting point is 02:45:36 We just actually passed the anniversary of Stonewall. I read one article, funny, Marsha P. Johnson was nowhere to be found. I guess they've already erased her. But, Matt, I will ask you a question. You have expertise that I do not. You and I are about the same age, but you've been a gay guy a lot longer than I've been a lesbian
Starting point is 02:46:17 and I think I know the answer through all of your life during the majority of it didn't it sometimes because you know as you have educated us in the past it's not like San Francisco has always been a bastion of inclusion and acceptance
Starting point is 02:46:50 what was the name of that cafeteria that was the West Coast equivalent of Stonewall, but in the course of your life, have there been moments where you felt like it's never going to get better? It's probably going to get worse. I mean, the AIDS epidemic, AIDS-H-I-V epidemic, all by itself and all the hate that flowed through this country brought to you by Christianity in the form of people like Pat Robertson. and Jerry Falwell. But I'd love to know your thoughts on that because it feels like every day, one day after another,
Starting point is 02:48:03 is just another hammer blow. Now, make no mistake, I live in as blood red a maggot state as you can live in. But for the most part, I just live my life. And that's the one thing I'm trying to sort out. Governments, well, you know, James Madison famously said, if men were angels we would have no need of government and yet we live in a time now where in a state such as mine i can go and do as i please
Starting point is 02:48:49 it's yes ma'am thank you ma'am everywhere i go i had a i had a woman the other day i just stopped in at a little store i know her she's as sweet as can be but you know i'm I tried to look halfway decent going out that day. And I walked in, and she wolf whistled me and said, God, I do love a beautiful woman. And if it sounds like I'm hitting on you, it's because I am. I blushed from out underneath my blush.
Starting point is 02:49:47 And I'm very happy as, I'm very happy with the relationship I have. Not bragging. I've got nothing to brag about them, just an old lady. But it's hard to sort out the difference between ordinary average people who are decent and kind. We're like that in Appalachia in West Virginia. And what the fuck happens to them when they enter a polling booth? It is cognitive dissonance on a cosmic scale. I mean, in this state, every time I'm around 10 people,
Starting point is 02:50:45 people seven of them, I know. Well, no. Let me put this better. Every time I'm around people, seven out of ten of them who bothered to vote, voted for the pedophile. And yet at the same time, we'll say things like, you know, we need to execute people convicted of pedophilia. Is this something that only the P. and above, MD and above psychiatrists and psychologists can sort out. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:51:39 And it's confusing as hell. But I think it kind of starts, it starts at the personal level. Because in this state, well, in this state there are literally tens of thousands of people who do not have access to clean drinking water and have no real prospects for it anywhere in the near term. As I've been talking about for nearly a quarter of a century, there are people in the southern half of this state who daily, every day except Christmas,
Starting point is 02:52:37 breathe toxic, cancer-causing dust that also does things like destroy hearts, pulmonary systems, and causes birth defects. We have food deserts. We have a failing health care system. Our roads are crumbling. We've lost track of the location of hundreds of children taken into the foster care system.
Starting point is 02:53:27 But in Becky's case, the state of West Virginia probably just flushed down the toilet, probably every bit of a million dollars in legal fees. Maybe the key is something I mentioned a moment ago. Maybe the key is those people who don't bother to vote. and I don't know how you convince them to get off their asses and go and do so while they still can. This state has done better. A hundred years ago we had a government almost identical to the one we have now. And when everything collapsed, suddenly they figured out where their common interests were.
Starting point is 02:54:54 And they threw every last Republican out for 80 years. until that generation was long gone and the Republicans could come back and start barking about Jesus and trans people and the Obama war on coal and people fell for it. Yeah, Micah says we need a new, new deal. How about we start by referring to progressive politicians as FDR New Deal Democrats and take a weapon away from the right wing? Yeah, I know, I'm crazy.
Starting point is 02:56:00 I kind of wish that there was somebody out there who could explain these issues, explained this case the way I have this evening, only to millions of Americans. Do you really, you know, and ask them, is your life really impacted by a 15-year-old girl running track? Or is it impacted by the fact that you can't afford to fill your gas tank? and the last time you ate a steak was during the Biden administration. You know, when you have a little bit of money in your pocket during the pandemic.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Because some of those New Deal style policies. I don't know. But hey, made it through. Thanks, everybody. Thank you, Colin. Thank you so much. I will add that into tomorrow. fundraising goal because we're done with June.
Starting point is 02:57:13 Thank you, Colin. And that means Ralph's challenge has been met. Thank you. Thanks to each and every one of you who share your precious finite time engaging in the program in whatever manner you choose. Thanks to our challenge makers. Thank you, Ralph's, challenge respondents. Thank you, thank you to our a la carte contributors.
Starting point is 02:57:36 Thanks to our PayPal and Patreon subscribers, contributors via cash app and Venmo and U.S. Postal Service, thank you all. Thanks for our all volunteer staff. Thank you, Roger. God, Roger, that picture of your garden just, it gave me such joy. And I hope you get some corn. But thank you and you and Jeremy and the old holler tree. Thanks to our news ninjas.
Starting point is 02:58:12 Thank you, Miss Micah, for the blue sky post. Thanks, Brother Deacon Asa, head on dot live. Sorry about your throat early. here. The packets pass and the stream stream because of the brother Deacon Camel Cardinal. Leave us a comment, or remark, or review, wherever you download the podcast. If you don't just do it once and do it every now and then, really helps. Thanks, Emily, for the intro.
Starting point is 02:58:43 Thanks to the hardest, working, bravest people I know, the folks at Coal River Mountain Watch, CRMW.net over a quarter century at the forefront of the struggle for human rights and environmental justice in Appalachia. Gosh, I bet we're not supposed to say environmental justice either. I'm probably, I guess I'm not going to be on Third Way's Christmas card list. And Cole River Mountain Watch is a proud union shop. By the way, Matt responding, said, Compton's cafeteria, yes, thank you. My 20s were rough. That's when most of my friends were dying and people were afraid to touch a gay man. The vitriol, it seemed constant. That was the 100,000 foot view. On the ground, as the gay community closed ranks and organized and then mobilized, I was surrounded by like-minded people when we all volunteered and did our part to fight back. We did so with humor and joy and tenacity that only comes from knowing you're right.
Starting point is 02:59:43 We formed foundations and organizations to meet the needs of our own while making ourselves visible and vocal to those that wished us dead. Along the way, regular people became allies. It took time. But it does get better. Thank you, Matt. I knew, I knew you would have the perspective that I needed. Please stay safe out there. It's so dangerous.
Starting point is 03:00:20 If you know and care about someone who's transcheck-in on me, check in with them. See if they're okay. You'll be surprised how much it means. And of course, if melanoma comes toward you saying, I always support the LGBTQIA plus community, just like I said in my book that you can buy at holler dollar now. Indy cutout bean.
Starting point is 03:00:56 Avoid her like the plague, because she is. And always, always, always. always. Wayne and Gina, it's all for you. Later. Talk to you a little bit, Victoria.

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