Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, 6 October 2026, Titanic Tuesday

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

Outrage at Cankles Caligula for his "let them hit L.A." screed; but did anyone notice the nuclear threat embedded in his mad screeching? Welcome to hell, Jim Baaker. I hope Tammy Faye teases you with ice cubes outside the gates and an army of gramdmas you ripped off are waiting for you with an eternally endless supply of pineapples. 

The password is Puddin. It's showtime. Here we go, live from behind the corn phone curtain. It's head-on with Roxanne Kincaid. Three hours of cussin and discussin with America's only liberal transvilly elitist right here, right now,

on the head-on radio network. Brought to you in part by Cole River Mountain Watch, who invites you to be part of the uprising against mountaintop removal, CRMW.net. And now, from high in the hills of West by God, Virginia, here she is. Roxanne Kincaid. Well, howdy. And here we go, off and running on this sixth day of October.

Two thousand, twenty-six, the sixth sheiks, sixth cheap, six, cheap, six. This is The Horn. Headon. Live is where you'll find us on the interweb tubes. That's where you go if you'd like to be part of the Merry Wacky's 80 real-time Madcap multimedia extravaganza. That is the Horn chat room in the three hours in which this program is live. Monday through Friday, 5 to 8 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 2 to 5 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time, all time zones between the Great Globe around and whatever time it is when you're listening to the podcast. If you're listening live, Ralph is waiting for you over there in the old holler tree.

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And so, yeah, if we could just a little interaction, a little interaction, a little interfacing with the algorithm goes a long way. And again, thanks to those of you who do. And Cece and Hutch aren't the only ones. and it would be great if we could do a little growing. But if you're listening live, we've got big doings for the evening, the afternoon. Oh, what a lovely day it's been here in almost level west by Cole Trump, Genia Stan. Just delightful, clear blue skies about as close.

about as close as you can get to perfection. Just magnificent, yeah. A Republican super PAC. Oh, hush. I forgot I had that potted up still. We'll get past it, though. But every program here at the Horn begins with gratitude, and this program is no different.

So thanks go out to our sixth day of the... the month subscribers and contributors via PayPal. And that means thank you ever so kindly to, let's see here, there we go. Thanks to Michael, formerly of Madison, now in Chicago. Thank you to Charlene in Rogue's Island. And thanks as well to Don and West Tennessee. Thank you all for being a partial sponsor of the program. And thanks very kindly for a lovely message and some help from Tony in Chico.

Tony included a message. Tony jumped in on the challenge as we tried to finish Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge. And we'll take, we will. We'll take one more try because we're so close. $90 away from finishing that because of Tony's overnight help it was a lovely message

I was listening to yesterday's show podcast this morning at work here's $100 bucks toward the challenges you have going well I may disagree with you on some issues I've learned a lot from you in the Horn family over the years that's just such a high compliment and that's so

that's so emblematic of what happens here. We're all grown-ups. We are political adults, and consequently we don't stomp our feet and yell fascists at anybody who brings us a cold cup of coffee. And I don't expect, you know, the pineapple princess down there in hell now, flush flimball, expected as nitwitnero pretty much does complete obedience and agreement but unprogressive

and once upon a time that was synonymous with liberal it has no it's been the two have been cut out from one another but the poet robert frost once described himself as saying i'm so liberal I won't take my own side in a fight. And, well, he was brilliant, coming as he did from Nahamsha and had more than his fair share of tragedy in his life. Somehow another tragedy seems to make great poets, sad. But, no, Tony, I really appreciate the way you put that. because, well, among other things, I get things wrong here. And again, that's something that maggot podcasters never dare admit.

They must always be correct, and they must always, and being correct means they're always in line with their dear orange Jesus. So, thank you, thank you, Tony. And we get 90 bucks to go on Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge that we've been working on for one, two, three, four days. Yeah, so if we can raise 90 bucks, we will go from 1,140 down to a deficit of only 540. and that will be a great help indeed. Now, as to the password and the PayPal buttons that had on.com. But you all know that. Maybe the new folks don't.

Are there any new folks out there? If you're new to the program, let me know. I'd be happy to welcome you to the conversation. Might even give you a free Rommelam Dingdong. Yeah, because this little broke-ass podcast can't afford the time of day. But anyway, anyway, the password, pudding. Imagine my surprise when I awoke today to the news that, well, with yesterday, having seen the passing of a sexual predator,

namely Dennis the Swede, wettie wrestler Hastert. Well, that was nice. But it felt like maybe the goddess of irony was giving another little lanyap today, because when I woke up, the first thing I saw was, let me see, remember Sandy Canyon

who was the Hollywood reporter for CNN back in the day? By the way, I don't know how long CNN's date, are the skydance Warner merger became official today the company will simply be known as Skydance now the famed Warner Brothers logo forever gone sad I think about the swirling music as the Warner Brothers logo appeared at the beginning of I'll say Casablanca in 1943 Oh, thank you so much, Kat in Ohio. Thank you, Kat.

Memorial Challenge done. Here's 90 bucks to complete the challenge. Thank you, Kat. Thank you so much. That's a great weight off my mind. So that gets us from 1140 down to 540. And thank you to Ralphs and our anonymous friend who support the challenge on a monthly basis. Thank you.

Thank you so, so much. And I hope, by the way, Kat, you're over in Ohio. I hope, I hope this, well, I hope this find, I hope we find you well. I feel so bad for people in Ohio and places like Texas where you can't, I mean, remember the, what was it, the, the tagline for, what was it, Jaws 2, don't go back in the water? or was it the original Jaws? I can't remember. Don't turn the TV back on.

If you live in Ohio or you live in Texas, for all I know, Michigan as well, Micah, you can tell me about that, or Joy in Ann Arbor, you can't watch TV because you're just inundated with these filthy ads. It's absolutely repulsive. and Ralph says thanks everyone but yeah so gross Sherrod Brown is lopping off the ding-dongs

of little boys and turning them into little girl we talked about that but I'm so sorry and then there's a larger conversation to be had about political advertising in this country we won't have it right now Yeah, there's Micah confirming what I said. She said true fucking story.

I've almost given up on football. It's so bad that Ken Paxton bought national airtime during NFL games this past Sunday because it turned out to be cheaper to buy in the national availability than it was to buy in, say, the Houston market, the Dallas market, the El Paso market. the San Antonio market. And so the entire nation got treated to the sleaze that is maggot-driven political advertising. Yeah, they've been playing that tune for a little while, haven't they, Micah?

Apparently, El-Said hates football, is a communist, and fundraises from Hamas. have they gotten well I mean I guess at least he's not Sherrod Brown or as Flesh Flimball used to refer to him oh my friends Sherrod Brown

the black senator from Ohio but yeah because they're accusing Sherrod Brown of literally transing kindergartners

there in Ohio. God. Oh, I wish I could be religious so I could be certain that those sleazy bastards were going to hell. It would be a little bit reassuring. But I don't. And so not only, well, not only them, but yes, I woke up this morning to the following headline, U.S. televangelist Jim Baker ensnared in fraud and sex scandal dies at 86.

I immediately set my phone down, laid back down, rolled over, closed my eyes, and pretended to go back to sleep just so that I could wake up and make absolute damn lootly sure I was not dreaming. Nope Jim Baker's dead And don't say anything about the dead If you can't say something good about them Jim Baker's dead Good

Took long enough His passing Came with some Oh I won't say triggering But his passing came with some Well memories Memories of my mother and my grandmother

sitting there watching the PTL Club and I imagine I am not alone in my generation of thinking back to moments like that somewhere in my mother's

belongings that she left upon this earth after she left it herself is the leather-bound And, you know, I got to give Jim Jim Baker credit.

The PTL Bible was not shabby. It had really, really thin paper, but it was annotated and had a concordance. And by golly, it really was leather bound. No vinyl like the Trump Bible or anything. No.

No declaration of independence. No constitution. just the good old-fashioned King James Bible that he charged a princely ransom for God knows what grand paid for it but the books I read and I did I read them

it helped me reach then I know this isn't prayer meeting Wednesday but it helped me to come to the understanding that this was all just a a fraud and a dodge and not real, that PTL Bible or seeing people like Harold Hill, who was making the evil gelickel TV rounds back then. He had been an inventor during World War II and invented some gizmo that helped to, he was an engineer. Jeez.

and he invented some gizmo that helped to start World War II aircraft for the Allies in brutally cold conditions or some such. And because he was an engineer, he felt like he had the necessary skill set to deconstruct Charles Darwin in the origin of the species. And I give him bonus points, at least for the title, because his book that he hawked there on the PTO club, was called from, and it's downright Susian, was called From Go to You by Way of the Zoo, a refutation of evolution or some such. And what it was was the typical racist white,

Christian refusal to accept science, but couched in things like the second law of thermodynamics, which no one who actually watched the PTO club had any idea whatsoever was. And then, as the late great Scott Marinoff and I used to talk about years ago, there was Hal Lindsay and the great, the, the late great planet earth, followed by the late,

late, late, great planet Earth, followed by the late, late, late, great, great planet Earth. He made a real franchise out of it. And millions of people tuned in around the world to watch Jim and listen to his wife, Tammy Fay,

Warble. And then it all fell apart. because he got caught up in a, well, he got caught with a man in his mouth. And then he also got, he got caught, well, engaging in massive amounts of fraud with his PTL club and his Heritage USA ginormous, what, Beam Park, yeah, and Jessica Hahn, his fling with her. And it reminded me of no one so much as the late, great, Sam Kinnison, who pre-deceased Jim Baker by a long shot, but he burned hot and he burned bright. There's one guy.

There's one guy that can suck dick. Look God in the face. And go, what did you expect me to do? Or, what do-be-boo-a-boo? There's one man that can say that. Reverend Jim Baker! Oh, yeah, Reverend Jim Baker. Of course, we don't have to call him Reverend anymore.

We can just call him Jim. Did this guy deserve everything that happened or one, man? This dick. Hypocrical, self-righteous, bastard. Guys to be on the air just like, I know God personally, no one will get in without my little seal. on your hurry-e-h jerk. Oh, that's great, too.

God kicked his fucking ass, man. God's tough. First of all, the guy's humiliated now, all over the world. He was on in 170 fucking countries. Real smart guy, huh? He didn't even leave two out. You know, maybe we'll fuck up someday and need a place to run to.

No, let's be on every country for the gospel of Jesus Christ. Now, in every fucking country, oh, di Taddaman, mu's a jimbega, fuck face. Wherever he goes the rest of the life, people go, I know what you are! I'm here! Get the camera, look at him! Oh God, that I fucked up or what!

Judas is up in heaven going, maybe I'll get a fucking reprieve. I thought I fucked up. Oh, yeah, he lost everything, he's humiliated, he's shamed, he lost PTO Club. Jesus is still up in heaven right now, he's going through the Bible going, where the fuck did I say? Fuck did I say build a water slide. How did they get that out of this? I never said building old folks home and use it as a tax ride off.

Oh, yo, you dig. You dig. She fucking dick. Oh, God did kick his ass, man. He lost everything. He's ruined. And the worst thing at all, he still has to wake up to her. I'm amazed he's still alive. I really am.

If I was him, I'd have enough pride to just go ahead and take my fucking life. The guy was any kind of a man, he would. He'd go, honey, I'm going to the restroom. I'll be right back to you. Throw a strap over the shower curtain rod. Jump off the stool. Jim, come back to the table, honey. The kids were only teasing you, Jim.

It was just a joke, honey. Jim. Take your fucking life, Baker, you loser. Hey shit, man. Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, oh, man. Oh, Jessica Hahn. You know, if you're going to lose a kingdom over some pussy, this is the girl, huh?

Can this guy pick him? He goes from Tammy to fucking Jessica, the victim. She was a victim. They took advantage of her. They brought her down here, and they fucked her, and they came on her face,

I can't do pictures in instead. And then I lost my faith. I can never believe in preachers again. I can never believe in God. And Playboy comes on and goes, listen, here's a million dollars. Can we take some pictures of your pussy? Oh yeah, sure, here you go. Yeah, the guy should have to fucking be a night manager

at fucking Wendy's or something for this, man. Jim Baker, he should like run a bowling alley from like one till seven in the morning somewhere around. If you can hear people... Yeah, I mean... And forgive me, but if I recall correctly, at one point in time, didn't, didn't, didn't Sam Kenison wind up, like, doing a video with Jessica Hahn? Something like, yeah, I think so. Yeah, he was rude and he was crude.

But Kenison was the son of a preacher man, literally. and it gave interviews where he said, yeah, I grew up and we lived in the church because we were so broke we couldn't afford to live anywhere else. But my dad was committed to the word of God. And Sam Kinnison went on and went into the ministry, and he knew how to do that schick on stage, and it's part of what made him so famous. Well, I don't know how quickly. He seemed to blaze onto the scene, but after Sam Kinnison had

died in a car wreck and I think he was pretty fucked up at the time if I recall correctly maybe I'm wrong Jim Baker got out of prison after serving something like 18 months

and declared himself cured and that he had gotten over all of his PTL and peccadillos. And it was so bad that the judge who sentenced him said, Those of us who do have a religion are sick of being saps for money-grubbing preachers and priests.

Those were simpler days. That was before we realized that they weren't just hustling elderly people. They were also fucking children. Yeah, yeah. And the irony, when Heritage USA fell apart, who stepped in to take it over? That's right. Jerry Falwell and his moral majority. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But when he got out, he said he was, he was re-saved or some such, and that he would reform himself, but he had not. stopped being a Christian. The judge initially sentenced him to 45 years, and I think that would have been a better idea, but it got reduced. And Jim Baker said, I have sinned. I've made mistakes, but never in my life did I intend to defraud anyone. Kenison jokes about Tammy Fay there, but she died of cancer in 2007.

But before that, she had had had. a change of heart she had she had actually found some compassion in her life and she did

so during the height of the AIDS epidemic doing what was then unthinkable to Christian America I know I know I know by sitting next to and talking to and treating like a human being a man suffering from HIV.

But, like I said, 1994 Baker got out of prison, renounced the prosperity gospel. And then, oh, that password by the early aughts was, and we had no small amount of fun with it here on the program on some various sundry prayer meet and Wednesdays. he began hustling survival stuff, not the least of which were dehydrated pudding in a bucket. You could make a five-gallon bucket oh pudding, and he would appear on stage surrounded by walls of this inedible garbage and was hustling that. he remarried because Tammy Faye did cut him loose he married a woman

named Lori who looked surprisingly like Tammy Faye only with considerably less cosmetic application and it was she who announced his death she released a statement saying

it is with a broken heart that I share that my beloved husband, Jim Baker, went home to be with the Lord this evening. He was a pioneer of Christian television. There was no mention of what he died of. But what he did die, he died. And like every single Christian, from the moment of the crucifference, to now. He died believing

with all his heart that Jebus was a coming back any day. He preached it day in, oh, got to get ready. Jesus is a coming back. And eventually the return of Jesus Christ played into his sales for bucket pudding.

Oh, well, you know, the tribulations and the end times are going to come. And what you want to do, you've got to have supplies ready because they're not going to be any grocery stores and you're not going to be able to get any food because you'll have to have the mark of the beast. If you got the mark of the beast, you're not going to heaven. So here's what you can do.

Buy bucket pudding now. But like a dog returning to its vomit, he couldn't stay away from the hustle. And that was what the bucket pudding was all about. And even though he said, I've had a second chance at life, and I have a beautiful wife who loves me. Next thing you knew,

he was setting up shop near Branson, Missouri at a 600-acre development. Yeah, he did it again, only this time it was called Morningside. And he did his stick on cable and on the Internet with a live audience of rubs and lost causes and simpletons. Simon Simple and Simon Pure. And then by 2020, he was into the shit again because he started hustling a bogus COVID cure. And he got back into politics, too. In 2017, he declared that America would find itself in a civil war if Trump was impeached. And then, of course, Trump got impeached.

Well, twice. So, as was with the case of Denny Hastert, rest in piss. Jim Baker. And hopefully the shades of my mother and my sainted grandmother were there when you got to the gates of hell and they sent you in.

And mom and grand sat down with a big old glass of ice water and teased you with the ice cubes. You god damn monster. But, you know, in many ways, he

set the paradigm for for modern grifters. And sadly, well, it's only going to get worse. It's only gotten worse. And you know what? If there's a heaven and if there's a hell, Jim Baker's in it,

and I would reckon that Sam Kinnisand is probably plucking a harp. So that's the password. And there's a lot more to go into, but a little bit of a story time today. This is, well, let me do some, let me check in with some email. Yeah, thank you, Ralph, serving as the Horn ad hoc Sam Kinnison and Jessica Hahn Research Department. High profile romantic relationship, professional collaboration in the late 80s. They dated. They made a music video of Wild Thing with Han as the prima ballerina.

And they had a bunch of cameos in it, Billy Idol, Bon Jovi, Guns and Roses, members of Aerosmith. Yeah. Thanks, Ralphs. Thanks. And, okay. No, Lee. Harold Hill was not the patriarch of the king of the hill. Hank's daddy's name was Cotton.

Maybe Cotton's daddy was Harold, but I don't think, no, no, no, no. Jeremy asked me, what's that beeping every minute or so? It goes on for about 10 seconds and then repeats. We had no beeping here, and Jeremy later noted, sorry, that was near me. And Jim went to join his twin Jimmy Swagger. Yeah, because they both used the same tagline. I have sinned against you. Mm-hmm.

Let's see. Oh, and Jessica Hahn, Sam Kinnison were both married with children. Jessica was a shoe groupie smitten with Al, but Al didn't cheat. And Sam did the Clarence part of the It's a Wonderful Life Spoof. Signed Lee with no life in New York. city. I had no idea. Thank you. And from some notes coming in from

Daryl in Houston, but also note coming from Kat and Ohio. Yes, it's Trans and Sherrod 24-7. We have a cutie ad from a detransitioned person, Soren, from Texas telling us

all her problems are Sherrod's fault and we should never support him. Glad the checks cleared. That's, yeah Soren, your check cleared. Oh, good. Sherrod Brown cut my boobies off. I don't even know if she's ever been to Ohio.

Yeah, it's definitely not safe to turn the TV on. Sheesh. But the political season is 24-7 now. And from Daryl in Houston ads, Here in Texas, Stan, I'm so tired of the fascist propaganda ad. even Pito Protector Paxton's ex-Hag has an ad out saying, even though she thinks he's scum personally, better vote for him anyway. Otherwise, we might get stuck with a rational person instead of a faux-religious grifter.

Oh, I don't think he's a faux-religious drifter, Daryl. I think he's a real religious grifter. But she has a vested interest. I'm sure she hasn't gotten all the money out of her Christian divorce. that she hopes to get. No. And, uh, uh, okay.

That's for Daryl. Uh, three Pete. Hastert Baker. Dare we dream. Dare to dream, Daryl, dare to dream. Whatever could we be dreaming of? Oh, a day when, um, a certain, uh, radio hostess puts on a, uh, a red dress and matching pumps and, I don't know, a spangly hose and, uh,

goes dancing down the street and people all over America start popping champagne corks that the AIs can't understand what they're keeping it cold for. Dave in the Blind, echoing, see, this is how the horn hive mind works, echoing what Daryl just said, all right, place your bets, Denny, Jimmy, who's next? Place your bets. Who's the next right-wing gadfly that's going to drop in? Some of your favorites could be, dare I hope, Benny's, Benny Drywife Shapiro.

I know some of you hopeful romantics will want the Donald. As your choice, I say, forget all that. Come on down to the Vatican betting parlor, where not only can you place your bet, but you can get a papal blessing at the same time, although it'll look like the front of a Chicago store. Yeah. Thanks, Dave.

And from Jimmy in the Great Northwest. Jim Baker. Yeah, Faker. He and Tammy, in those younger days we'd watch and crack up, it was entertainment. Fair, that's fair. Daryl and Houston, red dress. I don't have a red dress,

but I will put on the new purple kilt and run off down the street like a Scotsman in a Monty Python sketch. Yeah, leave the Red Sequin dress to your humble host is terrible. And let's see here. From the Camel Cardinal, Brother Deacon Asa says, Shame on you for ignoring some of Baker's greatest hits. As you know, I have a special space in my heart for those greatest or religious hustlers. And Jim Baker is a permanent fixture in our space.

He offered people a lifetime of annual four-day luxury stays at the a Heritage Grand Hotel for a $1,000 donation. He then... No, I just failed to mention it. He then sold over 150,000 partnerships for a hotel that only had 500 fucking rooms. That catastrophic math ultimately triggered his 24 federal counts of fraud. And the 700 Club program that we mainly attribute to Marion Pat Robertson,

the former liquor supply officer, that was actually started by Jim Baker. He was the OG hustler behind that magnificent grift that, by the way, is still going strong. In fiscal 2025 alone, CBN pulled down $350 million in cold, hard cash. You best believe few individuals, even in the Wall Street griftosphere, can pull down that type of cash. Some respect for these great men, that's all I'm asking for. They are, yeah, brother. Father Deacon, they are, they were truly professionals in their, in their filthy craft.

Uh-huh. Mad grifter respect. You could make an argument that people like Pat Robertson and Jim Baker and Jerry Falwell and Oral Roberts, of course, all paved the way for people like Creflow Dollar and Paula White Kane. and in fact even the 501c3 tax-exempt Christian grifts that plague our body politic to this very moment outfits like the Thomas Moore Society or the alliance demeaning defaming freedom the people who manufacture cases to take before our most puissant dread sovereign supreme Catholic majesties leading to holdings of deeply held religious beliefs and religious liberty sit liberty sit in cases like 303 creative and the the case of the case of the baker who didn't want to bake queer cupcakes and whatnot. Yeah.

Okay, says Auntie Kat. At least the Grim Reaper's targets are getting better. Well, you know, Asriel, the Reaper second class is still desperate to get his, to earn his sickle. But he won't get it until, well, you know when he'll get it. Oh, so this is story time as we come toward the end of the first hour of the program. I mentioned yesterday when I was talking about bill paying that I wanted to make sure that the stress line, for instance, remained a going concern for anybody wanting to reach the program. and so this morning

I paid the phone bill and I'm really not a Luddite but I do like human beings but nonetheless I dialed the number and went to pay my T-Mobile bill and their telephonic bill pay

automation is in a garbage. It took three attempts before I finally, and I had to break it up into two pieces. I got part number one, the first piece paid with only three tries, having had to call back once

because the AI is, well, it has hearing and thinking problems. And then it took three tries on the balance. And after the third try, the automation gave up and just rang customer service. And I was told I could either wait for a call back or just stay on hold and didn't really have anything better to do. So I just sat there on hold and did some other things at the same time. and eventually someone came on the line and identified themselves and thanked me for calling.

And I said, ma'am, I did not call. Your automation put me through to y'all, and I'm just trying to finish paying my phone bill. Suffice to say, as time went on, I felt like I was in a 21st century version of a Mark Twain story, I think it's called There's a short story I didn't look it up in advance

I think it's called political economy or something like that in which a poor put upon Mr. Twain is trying to write a serious article about political economy but is constantly interrupted

by a lightning rod salesman and as a consequence cannot get his thoughts together on his topic to which he time and again attempts to return. Well, the customer service rep for T-Mobile didn't quite fully understand when I said, I didn't call you. Your AI called you and put me through to you because I need you to help me finish paying my bill. And she explained to me that she could not do that. but that I was free to use the automated telephone service,

which I said, no, the automated telephone service. Well, you can always use the T-Life app. Do you know how to use the T-Life app? I'm like, yes, I've used the T-Life app, but I'm not on the T-Life app because it sent me to you. And she said, oh, I can help you navigate the T-Life app. I said, I do not need help navigating the T-Life app. And I said, frankly, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a pro-human being person.

I'm anthropocentric. And the best thing that T-Mobile could do would be to take all of its AI trash, all of its AI garbage, haul it out on a barge into the middle of the Pacific Ocean, and dump it into the deepest part of the ocean. see and then something happened once upon a time when you got overseas customer support you could hear and i've worked in a call center not not overseas of course but you know you're in cubicles one one sitting one sitting right next to the other next to the other next to the other got your little headset and you could hear the hustle and bustle of the call center and other voices talking to other disgruntled customers and whatnot, and maybe noise-canceling has advanced somewhat,

but it began to wonder. Because when I said the AI needed to be dumped into the deepest part of the Pacific Ocean, my customer support person sounded almost offended and said, oh, no, that would not be good at all. We just have to get used to new things, AI is wonderful, and I said, Madam, I'm sorry, I didn't call, I didn't call, and I'm not talking to you to argue with you. I'm trying to get the rest of my bill paid, but I despise AI. I will not use AI.

AI is garbage. A.I. is trash. AI is anti-human. And then she really ramped it up. Oh, no, AI is the future, and we will all be using AI soon sometime, Ms. Kincaid. I said, well, maybe we all minus one will because Ms. Kincaid will not. And then it began to dawn on me that Ms. Kincaid was being had. Because the more I trashed AI, the more agitated, this woman became.

And she did sound like she was offshore, but her English was much better than usual. she had just the slightest hint of an accent and she referred to she referred to T-Mobile like it was her daddy or her mommy here's the good part the balance she could not take my payment

but instead she just erased the remaining balance for the month which was nice but I feel absolutely oh it was the silliest 20 minutes of my life recently just

dumb and you'll have to forgive me because I mean you don't have to but at least understand that I deliberately do not engage with AI chat box. You know, if I do a Google search, the first thing it does is hand me, it's, what is it, Gemini results or whatever.

Jim and me, Gemini, I don't know. And I X out of that and I go to what I was searching for in the first place, and I find what I'm looking for. Of course, Google searches have been slowed down dramatically by the fact that they give precedence to their stupid AIs. So what used to be a search that would take, you know, a couple of seconds is now a 15, 20, 30 second wait for me to, for the AI to chew on it first before I get to even look at my results. But I don't know what it sounds like to talk to an AI. But now I think I do. And I wonder if T-Mobile has replaced its human call center folks with robots. I don't know. But after today's interaction, I'm definitely curious.

Because it was just weird. The more I evinced my displeasure with AI, it was almost like the agent got sad. You're going to make me cry, Dave. Yeah. And I'm a sweetheart. I don't run around being mean to people. I try to be nice to telephone tech support and customer service because like I said I've done the job

and it is in a word a shitty job so there's that and like I said we've entered the second hour of the program and I guess we've got to get something resembling serious okay this is comical I mean it Yeah, it is. Remember when Nitwit Niro announced his new phone company? I mean, it's a phone company owned by his boys, but we all know better.

Trump Mobile? A couple of months back, we had audio from a guy who found out that a Trump, that Trump Mobile was just a repackaged Android phone with some tacky ass gold on it, gold coloring

that came preloaded with tripe social. Well, a group called B-Y-O-D has hacked Trump Mobile and they got

all the data of 3,615 Trump Mobile customers, which I suspect is to say they got all the Trump mobile customers, 3,615, names, email addresses, phone numbers, home addresses, order details. Among those being hacked were one of Nitwit Nero's advisors. executives with the Trump organization. And yes, even a devoted maggot legislator

who didn't get hacked any member of nitwit Nero's family because they know better than to have a phone through one of their own grifts. By analogy, P.T. Barnum was never caught paying money for this way to the egress either.

Yeah. Straight Era News had the story on Monday and BYOD explained why they released all the data saying

Trump Mobile was informed they had been breached they then replied with we have no team to handle this and anybody who hacks us as a terrorist and BW B.YOD then said, well, unfortunately for them, all 3,615 customers and their personal information alongside telecom details are now up for grabs. BYOD even went so far as to explain how they did it, telling straight arrow news, that they got into the Trump mobile system by getting an employee of Liberty Mobile down in, of course, Florida, to download their malware.

Because Liberty Mobile is the network behind Trump Mobile. T1Mobile owns Trump Mobile, and they're the ones who license the Trump name from the Trump organization. Eric Brunette, the vice president of the Trump Organization, and their chief information officer, got doxed. On LinkedIn, he says he oversees all information technology and information security for all aspects of the Trump organization. He bragged to cyber news or hospitality upgrade last year. We've lost an unimaginable number of bad actors trying to infiltrate our network every day. We have to maintain a secure-a-poster that doesn't allow breaches of any kind. A lawyer for the Trump organization, Nicholas Hayes, is also, his data is also out there.

He told the straight arrow. Well, I used to use it, but I don't use it anymore. He must have figured out. What a security nightmare it was. Trump advisor Jason Miller. You might remember him. He's a creep. The co-founder of Echo Star, Charlie Ergen.

Singer Larry Gatlin. Pro-Trump influencer Bo Loudon. And yes, Representative Mike Kelly, a maggot from Pennsylvania Stan. Mm-hmm. At course, last May. How is this brunette guy still got a job? May, their T1

pre-order system put out a hack, disclosed the names, addresses, and ordered details of about 30,000 people who had oh, you fucking

simpletons ordered the Trump phone. And here's the best part. BYOD also says it still has access to the internal dashboard. of Trump Mobile traveling back in time to a heady day last year

Eric the Dumber launching the phone company said Trump Mobile's going to revolution on cell phones and then they missed deadline after deadline after deadline for releasing their tacky-ass Android phone it's all a grift I wonder

if any of the maggots whose data was stolen will have the common the common sense to sue Trump Mobile Ah, probably not They might be afraid that daddy would take his belt off Of course if daddy took his belt off

His pants would fall down and everybody would see his daddy Oopsie It is Titanic Tuesday now, isn't it? Oh, hey Matt I hope things are wonderful over in Zambuanga? Or have you moved on to the White Lotus-like resort? And as to T-Mobile,

oh, son of a gun, I was right. How about that? Brother Deacon Asa is sending me an article. Yes, T-Mobile has shifted a whole lot of stuff over to AI. Voice A-I now handles roughly 50% of T-Mobile's customer service calls, managing over 200,000 interactions data. and I met it today. Curious that they made it sound East Asian.

I guess the bigwigs at T-Mobile have decided that that's what Americans are used to. And Brother Deakin sent along the story from Entrepreneur magazine. There were a lot of naysayers, half of T-Mobile's customer. recalls are now AI and that's just the beginning. Story goes back to May of this year. Well, hey, T-Mobile, executives and whatnot. You suck! There's probably a human being out there that needs that job.

One individual who wasn't terribly happy about it, Julianne Robertson, who's director of AI engineering at T-Mobile, said, I've been at T-Mobile for 10 years. There's a culture of loving our customers and putting customers first. We want to better understand customers and fix pain points with AI. Well, Julianne, here's how you fix the pain points. You get a sledgehammer.

Get a lot of sledgehammers and hand them to human beings. And go into the server room and start beating the living shit out of the servers with the sledgehammer. I realize it's really low-tech, but sometimes that's the best way of dealing with things like this. God. Robertson said that T-Mobile's aim for using AI is to create a future where customers don't have to call the company with complaints. Things just work. Well, no, they don't, Jules. They don't work.

But if you insult the AI long enough, it will take some money off your bill, so that was cool. The journey to implementing AI wasn't easy. There were a lot of naysayers, Julie said. When we first launched our chatbot, we disabled the ability to take screenshots because we didn't want people to take screenshots and post them on Reddit. Our CEO said, no, let them take screenshots and critique us. Well, how very plebeian of the CEO. So let's always remember that everything has a cost.

and in this case some portion of my bill is supporting a bullshit technology that only benefits the coupon clipping shareholders yeah

oh someone's on the stress line hey welcome to the program I recommend David how are you I'm doing okay. Nah, everything's fucking sucked. No, I'm not doing okay. Everything sucks.

I gave the polite response, but no, everything sucks. I'm not having a good day. Oh, I'm sorry. Is this an ongoing, is this an ongoing suckitude, or is this just one sucky day? It's been a couple of weeks now. Not weeks. Days I met. But, yeah, kind of weeks.

I don't know. Days, I'm getting, I'm getting confused. Um, I can't call you on, on the Discord, which I was trying to do, but, um, it says we're not friends. What? We're not friends. It says we need to be friends before I can call you. Since when have we not been friends? I don't know. Darn it? Well, I, I, I promise you, I didn't unfriend you.

I would never do that. I, I'm, I, I hit a button wrong, I think. Well, it's odd, David, because I got a, you know, I thought we were friends of longstanding on the Zucker book. Yeah. And I got a friend request from you the other day. I know. I know. I know.

I'm not having a good time. I'm sorry. Tell me about it if you feel like. Well, I spent the last. couple of days writing about what I know about the conspiracy that we're all living under right now. And I just, I don't know, I'll feel good. Well, that's fair. That'll make you feel like crap. Let me just take a moment if, and I know the Brother Deacon and juvenile delinquent number two are listening.

Can you all, can y'all, is there any way to look in there and see what happened? Um, do you want to give, could you give me your, uh, I mean, is it? I sent another friend request if you want to accept it. Okay. On, uh, on, on, on, on Discord? Yeah, just right now, because I was trying to call it on Discord. I'd rather talk to you on Discord. Okay.

Oh, there you are. All right. Let me check and see. I'm not that conversant with Discord. But, yeah, I saw it. It was my fault. Don't worry about it. No, it's not your fault.

Quit that. I'm calling you on just for the same thing up here okay I'm hang up here okay can you hear me yes I can and that's so much clearer yeah that's better and that way I've got both of my hands so I can you know

search on the internet and stuff if I need to right no I don't feel good I feel like shit emotionally you got a bug any I don't know I don't know it's a spiritual

malaise I think well this would be the time for it yeah yeah i mean i'm not being flipped but yeah uh it's if i may just interject for a moment um i was having a conversation the other day and i don't i don't know if you're part of the apple cult like i am or not but you know i've got an ipad here that's what i'm talking to you on right now. And it will show me photos from the past. And

you know, about, you know, five years ago, a lot of the photos it was showing me were of the before time. But now that I'm six years in, most of the photos it shows me are since transition. And, and I

remarked, David, that there's a different quality to my smile. and to my demeanor in the photos, starting about January 2025, between 2021 and 2024, I felt radiant. I felt like I felt like I was filled with joy. And it wasn't because transition was new. I mean, that might be part of it.

I don't mean to turn this into that conversation. But that's also... And I got to thinking about this earlier because I do. I think about these things. You know, we're thinking people here at the Horn family community congregation. I think too much, but yeah, I agree. Yeah. But I was thinking back to that New Year's Eve program, December the 31st, 2020, when I came out on air.

And then it dawned on me. That was only six days that, well, what dawned on me was that, Six days after my joyful coming out, we almost lost the entire government of the United States to a right-wing, a right-wing domestic terror attack. That had to be a roller coaster on. It was, but, you know, I thought we were going to get past it. We talked about it a lot. One of the weird things about doing this program is that it really is a first draft of history. It's a matter of reacting in real time to what is happening around.

around us. And I'm not just talking about me. I'm talking about everybody who adds to the conversation here, yourself included. But during the Biden administration, we were still, oh my God, we were dealing with COVID. Part of the reason I decided to transition was because I did not want to die in a lie. And once I did, it became a matter of wanting to live. and to experience true joy for the first time in my life and in those photos

it's almost like you can see a I don't know in a change in the light around me if that makes any sense once after the 2020 election takes place and I think it's taken a terrible toll on decent people in this country

and so if I can say anything at all to you, David. You are not alone. My dear friend, you are not alone. Okay, thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Oh, David. Oh. Things have not been going the way I'd anticipated. Is it a practice thing? Is it just...

It's everything. It's like everything. Is everything? I went to school I went to school I finished my during COVID I decided to go back to school and finish my undergrad degree and then I came to law school and law school was supposed to meet friends

and I was supposed to start a life and nothing has gone right since I've been here in Oregon and I feel fucking alone and I feel just I just want something to to go my way

just one time. Yeah, you need a break. And I don't mean you need a vacation. I mean, you need something to break your way instead of, you know, breaking the rack on the pool table and having the eight ball go straight into the pocket. Part of it, part of it honestly is like not like because I want to make friends and because I want to have, you know, a social act and stuff like that. People ask me, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, okay.

You like your dream job? Yeah, I like my new job. And really, I'm just like, I don't, I don't really. I don't really. I want to be there for other people, but it's so hard. It's so hard seeing what they do to the people. Yeah. And I try my best.

I try my best to be there for my clients in the way that no one was there for me when I was in jail. I think it almost impossible. You have had to fight so hard just to get where you are. It cannot help but be devastating, David. And now in the thick of things, and yeah, seeing what the system does to people up close and personal, what you're feeling is a commentary on your essential humanity.

You haven't had it yet beaten out of you, and I hope you never do. I actually thought of you yesterday, as a matter of fact. I do that sort of thing. I read an article. I wasn't expecting to like emotionally vomit on you. Oh, hush. Well, there went dinner in the Central Daylight Time Zone. Emotional vomit.

You know, they're a very popular punk band these days, and they'll be playing in El Segundo. Friday night. The opening for them will be another band that only formed recently. What was, yeah, Tommy Tuberville was talking about it recently. I think it's called diseased lettuce. Yeah, when he was talking about the furries, you know, so it's a double bill. disease lettuce and emotional vomit. They've got, oh my God, what a set list they've got, David.

You have to be there to experience it. But I did. I was thinking about you because I saw an article about a young woman, a law student, who was really good law student. She was from California. She's an African-American woman who was adopted by white parents, raised by white folks, and she was recruited by law schools all up and down California, and she chose Texas Tech.

And I thought of you specifically because she went to law school because her goal was to become a federal public defender and speak up for those without a voice. nice and her parents said as parents will you know honey there's great law schools

here in California you could go to any of them and she said mama daddy if I'm a if I'm a law student who wants to be a public defender I'm one of

I'm one of a hundred thousand in San Francisco but in Lubbock Texas I'm one of one I'm going where I'm needed Right And And the whole story was about the fact that she is still battling Against rumors that were spread about her

In the aftermath of That day when Charles James Kirk lost the gun debate by a long shot Because words were attributed to her that she didn't say and she's she's still she's still being tormented by Texas Tech Wow And it's hard being black

And a lawyer And America all the same time Oh I can You know Yeah I mean I can literally only imagine I had a shit load of privilege Going through my three

My three years of having a cup of coffee in law school White and male Allegedly Um allegedly I just got that Remember my certificate to practice law from the Supreme Court said Having demonstrated her ability to Everybody knows

I remember May as well show up for my swearing-in in a stunning cocktail frock Well that would have been an outing, wouldn't it? Oh well, but no I just want to provide some reassurance that your feelings are not Abby normal. Okay. They're extra normal. Yeah, I like being normal.

I was, um, so I started, so I saw you I started a website? No. So I bought a domain like a year ago and I set up a website. and I started writing a blog on it and I've got links to your website and Molloy's website and Oberman and Stephanie Miller and Randy Rhodes's

um for a substack and then all kinds of the links to all the different like information sources that I kind of peruse and browse every now and again and stuff some one than others but um yeah I started I started writing on there and I wrote the last couple of days

I just I just didn't go to work I didn't I couldn't I just couldn't and um I wrote the I wrote the last couple of days on like all of the different stuff about that I've read and like I was saving a document on my computer with a bunch of different new articles and stories and stuff I started that like two years ago and I finally decided to like put it together and like

a different and like write a blog post about it all of the connections I was seeing and it's just it's just the scope of it the scope of the fucking evil of these these fucking people it was a lot to

it was a lot to it is I mean when we are when we are when we are confronted by, and I've mentioned previously, I don't throw the word evil around a lot, and Stephen New York has made that reference as well, but sometimes you have to use the word that's most accurate and most applicable. This is that. These fuckers are evil, top to bottom, side to side, front to back. And confronting that is, it's tough on your soul. Yeah. It's kind of like when Frodo puts on the ring and all of a sudden he sees the eye.

Yeah. Yes. That's a very apt analogy for what I'm going through right now, I think. That's why I feel all dreamed and stuff. Yeah. The eye. The eye, Sam. The eye, Sam lies.

And everybody else is going, what eye? Right. Exactly. It's like the, I brought this movie up. before, but what is it, they live where the guy gets the glasses and he can see all the dead people or the

aliens or whatever. Yeah. It's kind of like that. It's kind of like that movie. Or, you know, Haley Joel, you know, Haley Joel Osmond, I see dead people. I see dead people. I see dead people. And then there's and the fact that people are just

cheering. Like, I don't get it. I don't get it. I understand. I, I, I understand. And, and, and, what were you talking about before, before, before, before I called and, and took over everything? Oh, I was, I was, I was, I was, let's see, you know, the, uh, Trump mobile got hacked. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Uh, yeah.

A company run by the president of the United States, his family can't protect 3,615 names, and yet they think they're going to beat Iran, you know, right. and you know me having the scales fall from before my eyes and realize that the lady I was talking to at T-Mobile was an AI and I'd feel dirty I do I feel dirty David I was like a were you talking to a bot or something online or what? No, I was trying to finish paying my goddamn phone bill. At the store? No, no, I was on the phone. I called telephone.

I called their automated pay-your-bill line. And you're just talking to the AI like it's a human? And, well, the, no, the automated phone line bumped me over to customer service. Oh. Where I was expecting a human being, but the longer I talk to it, the more I realized, this is a fucking AI. Goodness.

Because it only, it only began to dawn on me when I just, you know, I casually talk about how much I hate AI because I'm that much of a nerd. And, and I mentioned, you know, that, well, you're, I said, well, your, your, your AI, your, your, your, your AI automation for paying your phone. bill really stinks and the best thing T-Mobile could do would be to get rid of all of its AI and all of a sudden the person that I was talking to

took umbrage and started yes and started singing the praises of AI and how we'll all be using it it'll make all our lives so much better so it gas at you yeah

Wow, it can do that? Apparently so, so when I got the customer service survey by text message afterward, you know, I have sympathy for real human beings who work call centers, because like I said earlier, I've done it, and it sucks. I used to work in a call center. I've been called everything but a child of God. So I'm really, really usually nice to them, and I understand the corporate rules, and you have to give everything a 10.

or else they're going to get yeah or else they'll cut that poor humans at least yeah or else they'll cut that poor humans turnip ration you know at lunch but this time through I was like nope six four seven I just random numbers trying to keep you yeah no no no i'm not gonna i'm not getting i'm not getting i'm not given across the board tens for a goddammed ai chat bot no no no way uh-uh no no no right uh yeah um i think um i think see here's here's what i think it is right now that i'm thinking about it it's we're coming up on the anniversary of when i was arrested i was arrested on october the 11th and eight and I guess it's just because it's the time of year where I'm feeling like this

but um I think it might have something to do with like last time last last last election I was I was certain we were going to win I was certain we were going to win and I was devastated when we when we didn't and this time I can't I can't I want to get my hopes up but I can't and I'm in a place where I'm like, well, prove it. You know, like, demonstration. Yeah, you're waiting for the other shoe to drop. All of the time, and my nervous system can't handle it anymore. You're not alone.

Thank you. We are all, you know, and I said at the beginning of the program something about, you know, our, you know, political campaign seasons and the vast amounts of money that they hoover up. and there has to be a better way and there is a better way. There is a better way. There is a better way.

The Civil Rights Movement has been fighting for a better way since the 60s. We're like, what, 60 years later? And it's getting... I mean, it was credit Scott King that was talking about a jobs guarantee and Martin Luther King talking about the beloved community and Linda B. Johnson and the great society and ending poverty

because of racism, because of fucking racism, because of hatred and division. And every one of those things they said pissed off Lily White American corporate boardrooms to no goddamn end. Right. How dare they? They're uppity. Right, right, right.

And it's like we could have been way closer to fulfilling the promise of our founding documents and were not. Despite how hypocritical and despite how hypocritical and thuggesh the founding generation were and how hypocritical they were. But they did have some high. affluent and liberal philosophy ideas. Right. They usurp the best of Enlightenment Age political philosophy to use their own nefarious ends. And then, but that's why there is promise. That's why there is promise in our founding documents.

And I wish I could see that still or feel that again, rather. And instead it's just a grim slog toward an uncertain outcome. But again, I will reiterate, you're not alone, David, because I'm sitting here waiting to find out how these fuckers are going to cheat this time through. Right. Because I have no problem saying that there was something badly wrong with the 2024 election. I don't either. The odds of carrying every swing state are almost impossible. Yeah.

I mean, Trump said in Pennsylvania, he said Elon, he said Elon Musk helped him with his knowledge of the voting machines. He said that in Pennsylvania after the election. He said out loud with his fucking mouthhole. Yeah. And now you've got, I don't know if you've read any of it. seen anything about it in the press. But now you've got this four-hour

Elon Musk documentary out there. Just tickling his balls? No. Oh. No, it's ruthless. Oh, okay, that's good. And among other things, it prominently features Ashley St. Clair

who has left the dark side and has talked about, has talked about the fact that, uh, Leon, and, you know, she's one, she's one of Leon Scum's baby mamas. And he's presently trying to take her child away from her because he says that she will trans the baby because, uh, because, because she's supportive of his daughter, Vivian, post-transation. Um, oh my God.

And she says that, as if, as if the mom. Oh, okay, never mind. And she says that Leon Scum Space Nazi offered her $40 million not to participate in the documentary. He's got $40 million he can burn, but there are children starving. He's sick of freak. He's a disgusting freak. He's a disgusting freak. I'm just, eh.

Yeah, I mean, I think just, yeah, more ketamine, Leon, more ketamine. And what is this? He's going to trans the daughter, like do some hoodoo or something? Like what? Yeah, but the magic wand or something? See, he really, his brain is so broken, David, that he believes in a, he coined a term, and now he believes in the bullshit term that he coined that there is a trans mind virus. What? And it is transferred, what, via mind meld? I guess he says that his daughter, Vivian, well, he says his son was murdered by the trans mind virus. I don't even know what, I don't know what that one.

It doesn't make any sense because he doesn't make any sense. He's deeply mentally disturbed. And the problem is they're turning me into a babbling idiot. Not to, every time I hear, and I just go, blah, you. Yeah, not to turn this into Limbaugh radio and, well, that's enough about here. Well, let's talk about me. Talk about, oh my God, I crawl in behind this microphone for three hours every evening. Do you have any idea what a fucking Everest it is not to just open the mic and go, ah!

So what's your peace process? Well, I rely on the great philosophers, you know, Socrates saying the unexamined life is not worth living. You know, Descartes and cogito ergosome, I think, therefore I am, you know, be the ball, Danny. and of course Hunter S. Thompson who said I hate to recommend drugs and alcohol for anyone, but they've always worked for me. I don't know that I've got one. I'm trying to find a peace practice.

If I do, it probably has something to do with going for a walk in the woods. And on days when I can, I read Robert Frost talking about walking in the woods. And as silly as it may seem, I don't escape into television and movies very much. Victoria and I are still working our way through the entirety of Big Bang Theory. And just being able to laugh at a time when things were a little more laughable. And of course, the creator of people.

Big Bang Theory as recently as yesterday was excoriating nitwit Nero in the press and he's unafraid to go to war with him. But, and this is going to sound really silly, I have always been a reader. And of late, and I think this is legitimately a response to you know, all the stuff about AI and whatnot, because the AI warning started coming out and about the same time, I was like, you know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to reread Raymond Chandler. Raymond Chandler was a brilliant writer. Early on, he was sort of dismissed because he was just writing crime novels, but the guy is an artist with words. We're talking about, you know, the big sleep, the long goodbye, the lady in the high window, farewell my lovely. And they're all basically set between 1930 and 1950. And they have references to that era.

Obviously, I wasn't around between 1930 and 1950, but there were remnants of that era all the way up into the seven. You know, he'll talk about having to stop at a payphone to make a call. Or the clacking of the, the loud clacking of the typewriter through the joint, through the common wall of the office next to him. Or, you know, the beautiful classic cars of a bygone era. And, you know, there's the jargon of the 30s and the 40s and the 50s. and it's it's kind of a refuge if that makes any sense

I mean I've gotten to the point where when I get to the end of the day I can't wait to shut everything off and read for 30 to 45 minutes before I go to bed I dropped up for a second I don't know what happened

I don't either I heard the I heard the g-d-ding yeah I don't know what happened I just take a great deal of joy in leaving this era and reading about another but it's not so far back in time that we're talking about chamber pots or anything like that and I don't like having to think about those

I like having to think about those. I like that Bridgetta. I've never seen it, but I've got a granddaughter who absolutely adores it. October 15th, I was going to say October 15th, the fourth season of the Diplomat returns. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's going to be good. Oh, Carrie Russell. And, you know, I need a little dopamine hit every now and then, and tomorrow will be the final season, episode of season four of Ted Lassau.

And for all the naysayers out there, we're like, well, I don't know if it's going to be as good with him, with him coaching a bunch of girls. Wow. It's happened. But I think the magic is still there. And it makes me get as much into my feels and my giggles as I was doing when I first discovered it during COVID.

That's good. That's good. I'm trying to find something to look forward to. The other night, and of course it's a year, a couple of years old, but I watched Daniel Craig in the most recent Knives Out mystery, you know, the Benoit Blanc. Oh, yeah, on Netflix? Yeah. Okay.

Something like Get Up, Dead Man or whatever. And it's Josh Roland and, what's his name Thomas Hayden Church and Glenn Close and it was really good a couple of nights ago

I watched I didn't know quite what to expect from it but I watched John Ham play Fletch you know who was first brought to the screen by

heavy chase. And it was enjoyable. It wasn't anything ginormous, but my God, the location shots in Rome at the very beginning just made me sigh. And I heard

Audrey Hepburn's sweet voice saying, Rome, always Rome. So, that. Rome. You know, at the end of Roman holiday. I've never Seed Roman.

Oh, you owe that to yourself. Audrey Hepburn's feature film debut, and she gets to make it alongside Gregory Peck and Eddie Albert, who are just genius, and it's funny and sweet and touching. Well, it also partakes of American history, because the screenplay, which won an Academy Award was written by Dalton Trumbo

who at that point in time had been blacklisted during the the vile House on American Activities Committee era because he refused to name it because he refused to name names but that's definitely a sweet one I wish you had something more interesting to talk about Roxanne I really do

actually you're fine I think this is a I think this is actually a conversation that needed to happen not just for you but for me and for the entire Horn family community congregation you said you had been delving into this conspiracy

in which we find ourselves and that it had yes proven damage it was it was heart break Okay. Well, let me share a couple of notes for you. Okay.

From Tom in Sunny San Rafael, David in Oregon. A word of support for David. It may not mean a lot, but I've been so encouraged by David's calls in the last few years. Long ago, I knew another David in Oregon. He was my best friend in college, and eventually was my best man when I got married. He was a great guy, but eventually turned into a conservative or pig. licking. If I recall correctly, he went to the same law school as good David. Practiced in Portland for years, and the last time I googled

him, it appeared that he'd gotten into some lawyer-type ethical trouble and ran away to Texas. So good, David. So good, David, is a redemption in my mind. Hang in there, David. Don't you love this community?

Isn't this community just special? Yes. And Jimmy, Jimmy in the Great Northwest said, keep focused on staying ahead of the game, David. Life isn't easy. I believe it's not meant to be. Be strong, stay strong.

The game is survival, and we will survive. That's nice. I want to thrive, though. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I've been surviving my whole life, and I'm ready to not do that anymore.

I'm ready to thrive. You know what? There's a line that in my my darker moments comes to mind. Are you familiar with the Peter Gabriel song? In Your Eyes? Big hit. I think so.

I think so. There are times that I listen and I just cry. And there's one line where he sings, Love, I get so tired. Just fighting for our survival. Wow. And that goes through me like a knife every time because sometimes it feels like that's all I've ever done. You know, there are moments of intense happiness.

There are moments of joy. But, you know, just feeling, yeah, feeling like you want to thrive. But I counterbalance that, David, against one of my favorite poems. And I fell in love with the poem because of the title. The poem itself is brilliant. I mentioned Robert Frost earlier. But the title of the poem. it gave me a real sense of perspective

happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length well I mean it's almost geometrical it makes it makes a sort of geometric sense something that's higher than it is long and I meditate on that sometimes

and I've read so much over the years and and you know of course i don't believe in the whole you know the bruga bruga who do read the book whatever but i've read a lot of books and when i think of happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length i often think of the words of kirk vonnegut who said i think it's beneficial every now and then uh in a in a sweet moment to look around and say well If this isn't nice, what is? I don't have a lot of those nice moments, if I'm honest.

At least I don't have a lot of those. Sometimes you have to look for them. Another line says, the eye is a marvelous device. With a little work, it can be taught to not see the greatest of injustices. but like i can't stop looking at the injustices and it's draining me like i find it difficult i find it difficult to look away from injustice i find it really difficult and then when i'm not when i'm not focused on it i feel guilty for not focusing on it sometimes i see that i think that's one thing

you have to give yourself some grace on that yeah You're not the first person Has told me that That I need to give myself grace You're not the first person You are not required to be on the cross 24-7 Well I felt that in my soul I know

But You know for me like I said Sometimes it's about getting out in nature Okay But I'm a nature girl But you live in Nature is where they keep the things that eat people Oh, but, no, that's Australia.

Oh, okay, that's the wilderness, not nature. Yeah, Australia is where creation put everything that wants to kill humans worst of all. Oh, and then they said, wow, okay. yeah but they're you know they're going

I don't know why I'm being so goddamn literary this evening but if you go back to the very earliest years of the 19th century you get William Wordsworth writing the world is too much with us

we lay waste our days coming and going, getting and spending. I'm sure I'm getting that wrong somewhere along the way, but even 1802, 1803 and he's going, shit, life is way

too complicated. Wouldn't you love to drop him in the middle of New York City? Or London. His own London. He'd run screaming into the Thames. And this is where I can't help think about, thinking about what I've been writing about the last couple of days.

Because, like, yes, life is too complicated. It is designed to extract everything from a human being for the benefit of these people who have dominated society, these sociopaths who have dominated society for so long, for so long, right? We've lived in this muck, in this mire for as a civilization for thousands of years. Good, good. I was about to ask if you were going to ask if you were taking the long view, because all of this begins the moment we start building cities. the minute we gave up on hunting and gathering

and started and starting forming cities well look humanity had been doing you know we basically 100,000 years ago is where we draw the line

for the rise of what we call modern humans and for 93,000 of those years they were hunting and gathering and we know for a fact that those hunter-gatherer societies had more leisure time than the average modern human living in a prosperous industrialized society. Yeah, Kurt Vonnegut.

The question being prosperous for whom? Exactly. And that's what I'm talking about. It's designed to extract every bit of fucking. usefulness out of a human being. So the system so that they, so that they can, they can have while everyone else has not, you know, and it's, it's, and they've been demanding, these sociopaths have been demanding tribute from human beings for thousands of years.

And it's like we can't, us humans, we can't, we don't know another way anymore, except to live in this under the dominating extractive sociopathy of the elite ruling class. And it's disgusting. And then they go to this Bohemian Grove. Have you heard about this?

Oh, God. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's so late 90s. Yes. Okay. A bunch of, a bunch of rich men dancing naked in the woods and probably, telling dirty jokes and scratching. Yeah, but they get together at this place and they decide how the world's gonna go

as they fucking sell little children and fondle little fucking girls, man. Yeah, they're monsters. I can't, I can't fucking handle this shit anymore. It's two fucking much. They have to go. go away. And

oh, David, you know, there's, there's so much, there's so much triggering that goes into it. You know, you,

you've just brought, I mean, the Epstein, the, that's what I was staring at for two fucking days. And it's vile, and it doesn't,

it doesn't go away. And the murder and the genocide and the chaos and destruction. And, And now we have the Cornell case, right? I could, this is the frat. This is the frat that I heard about. Yeah.

Where they fucking, what did they do? Like, gang rape somebody or something? Yeah. And, and of course, the white wing manosphere is out in force. There are people who are offering rewards for outing the woman who has already been, had her life threatened if people ever do find find out who

who she is and you know I featured this pretty heavily the other night the botched execution in Tennessee and it's disgusting and it's men and then there's uh lindsay clancy her trial that resulted in a hung jury and men david men are out there screaming for her blood

lindsay's blood uh there there are men who make you who make you know beyond a reasonable doubt that they would gladly go to uh the the the woman's hospital bed where she's unconscious and non-responsious from her botched execution and that they would gladly wrap their hands around her throat and strangle the life out of her because my god she deserves it it's it's sickening to behold uh and it's and and and they forced us they forced us to live in this society where the only way to get ahead is to behave like them it's disgusting they're disgusting yeah they they genuinely they genuinely they are. And then, but, but let's not, let's not put it all on the shoulders of men. Because of course, there are always some women who are willing to back this shit up. And this, that brings us to Megan Kelly. Oh, Jesus is white. Fucking Santa Claus is white. Yeah, of course Jesus is white.

Yeah, of course Jesus is white. Fucking Megan Kelly. Yeah. This was yesterday. This is a transcript. She is paid millions of dollars, David, to say this, because speaking hatred pays very well. In her show yesterday, she said, and this is the Cornell case. Okay. Sorry, content warning. No one will even consider the possibility that this woman made a decision to get it on with four men total, not seven, and it joined it. because I'm just going to be honest.

She's not the most attractive gal. She's extremely beefy in her arms and her legs. She has a whole video online talking about her cancals. And she possibly enjoyed being admired. This is how women make these mistakes. Admired, wanted. Some women even foolishly say loved by these guys at Cornell. But this is probably a first for her.

She's probably thrilled to be so admired because she clearly didn't grow up the incredibly beautiful one. I'm not trying to be insulting. They always say shit like that. I'm just trying to tell you the narrative that is likely to have occurred here, in my opinion, and why can't we account for that possibility? That the girl who was never the most sought after suddenly had four guys who wanted to have sex with her, and she counted this, yeah, in her inebriated state as a win,

and liked the feeling of being sexy and desire. and wanted. It happens. Sorry. It does. And that's why she kept saying yes. Why do we have to go right to she's a victim? Even she took weeks to get there. It wasn't until they told her she couldn't go to the party. We all know that, right? This is so disempowering to all of womankind, to all of us, to our daughters. We're capable of making decisions. She made the decision to drink and then show up at a fraternity house at 11 o'clock. She was dressed that way, right? Well, it's not... She was dressed that way.

She was dressed that way. It's like that, though. But wait. This is Megan Kelly. She dragged. Showed up the party wearing that skirt. Oh, she deserved to get fucking gang rage, huh? But this is Megan Kelly.

This is Megan Kelly asking why did she wait so long to report her rape? Megan Kelly waited 10 years. and cashed paycheck after paycheck after paycheck after paycheck, all the while she was being sexually abused by Roger Ailes. And she only disclosed it when another woman stepped forward and Fox paid off. That's Megan Kelly. The same Megan Kelly who said, well, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't really a pedophile. It's not like he was fucking five-year-olds.

He liked them, you know, 14, 15 years. old when she has a 15 year old daughter. I mean, that's just, I can't. I mean, really, these are the people that are on television. These are the people, like, that's what I can't understand. These are the people that are on television. They're on television and other people have made the choice to allow hatred like that to be on television infecting the minds, infesting the minds of the entire country.

why why why why is anybody working for megan kelly why is is anybody making the decision to put megan kelly on the air why are people editing megan kelly segments and putting them on youtube later like just i i i cannot right because there's an army of people behind megan kelly empowering her and at the top of the serious xm ladder are a bunch of men oh son radio okay i didn't get that yeah but but she's got a camera on her at the same time so yeah there really are there are youtube clips and everything okay i just preferred reading the transcript as opposed to subjecting everybody to her chainsaw voice and thank you for that rossan i really appreciate that i can't stand listening to these people much anymore i'm sorry to interrupt you again

no no that's that's okay but it's worth tens of millions of dollars to support her pumping this hatred out into the body politic, out into the culture. I mean, look at the richest podcasters. Look at the richest broadcasters. None of them are on our side. Right. I'm on this air sweating bullets every evening just trying to make sure that the lights

stay on so I can keep doing this. and I spent the last two days writing because to show all the connections that I've seen and it hopes that somebody sees it and maybe has their eyes opened but nobody's going to read my website you know what I mean no one's going to I've got like nine I've got like 70 90 followers on blue on blue sky

if that many and I mean I've got I think I've got a couple of thousand or something but it doesn't matter i i post the program at blue sky every night uh micah posts a post about the show for me every day before airtime uh and yeah i i i i'm in the most of someone's gonna hear it and chain have their mind changed some of it's formatic some of it's cultural i i'm i'm one of the last people doing three hours a night i don't think i'm telling tales out of school uh when i say that when i talk to talk to my buddy maloy he's like god roxy you're still doing

three hours i'm like yeah that's the only way i know how to do this and he said i did it for a long time and i can't do it anymore and i don't know how you do but the fact of the matter is one hour or three really doesn't matter because uh remember that old new wave song video killed the radio star? Yeah that's the first song that was ever on MTV by the way Exactly exactly And it's

Sometimes it feels like more of a truism for me than With each and every passing day because I'm a radio girl Well no the telecommunications act for 1996 Kelt the radio star frankly if we're going to be well I mean yeah That's that's that's true too But what's changing the media landscape now is a company that is nominally owned by people in the U.S., but it was created by the Chinese communist government. I mean, communists, really, they're fascist authoritarians.

It's capitalism all the way down with China now. communist in name only I think that's always the way it was anyway but the fact of the matter is we live in a country divided by reels by clips that are no more than 30, 45, a minute and a half long and we just sit there with our phones and we flick

and we flick and we flick and we flick and then you look up and three hours are gone David yeah and there's no through line there's not just neat to like yeah I do too but you know three hours are gone and there's there's no through line there's no consistency there's no context right right and then and then who even there's no context even when you when when when people watch the news when they're when they're watching CNN or even MS Now, I had turned that off. It's just, it's just, I mean, MS now is better than CNN and CNN's better than Fox, but at the same time, there's no context.

There was no context in law school. We would just have the case, read the case, analyze the opinion, learn the rule, learn how to apply the rule, and be a robot, and do that again for the test. I'm just curious. There's no context given. We didn't study anything other than the rule, the application, and how to apply it, and then move on to the next thing. We don't discuss anything about how this affects the concept of justice or the idea of fairness in society or how this rule is going to oppress anybody or why is this rule the way it is. Why is the powerful people the only ones that can access fucking justice?

We don't talk about any of that shit in law school. No. no and if you try you'll get shut down i was lucky we had a labor a visiting labor and not just by the and not just by the professor but by other students in the class yes get down i know i i i get it uh like i said when i was at west virginia we had a visiting labor professor who was a marxist and talk about marxist thought about marxist labor theory and you know there were some people who would not take his class.

Others loved it. But the fact of the matter was, you know, it was he was a, he was definitely out of step with everything else that was being taught. Because he did talk about the mechanics and why things wound up being the way they were. I was going to, you know, we always wind up talking about these sorts of things when, when you and I talk, your law school experience versus mine. But would be less angry and militant and Black Pantherish? Yes. But when you, when you studied torts, did you read, I can't remember the name,

but you were talking about context, and this reminded me, did you read, did you read the case that in the case that, involved. I think it was Oklahoma, maybe. I don't remember. But it was an old man who kept getting his outbuilding plundered. That's not striking the court. And he finally got disgusted. And he set up what was referred to as a spring gun. Oh, yes. This, yes, yes. I didn't, the outhouse thing

didn't strike a cord, but the spring gun thing struck a court. Yes. I recall this case. And so, you know, eventually one of these assholes pulled the door open and bang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got, you know, birdshot or rock salt or whatever. And he was a burglar. Right. And the law said that he recovered against the old farmer who was tired of being ripped off.

Because you can't use deadly force in defense. property in defensive property i don't know i don't know how that case would be decided now i think it would be decided differently one can use deadly force to protect themselves against physical assaults yeah but you know not just to protect your your your outbuilding full of a bunch of you know old stuff that you're not using right but to protect about to protect yourself or another person It has to be reasonable, though. There has to be a reasonable. Yeah.

It has to be a reasonable doubt of force. How did reasonable work out down in Florida with the Skittles and the Arizona iced tea? Yeah, no, it's isn't. It's a good. But when we talk about context, you know, think about the frustration of the man being constantly stolen from. they may steal from your outbuilding, but it still feels like you're being violated. What, you know, what pushes you to that point?

But oddly enough, the unstated rule that was handed to us by my torts professor was that a live plaintiff is always more valuable than a dead one. A jury will always return a better verdict for a plaintiff who is live than one who is dead. I don't Well I don't get that Well I mean But it's true

It's true But Well Because well We've got the cost benefit analysis And you got to look at the Future potential earnings

And this person's worth However much he could Earn in the fucking marketplace Right And then you have to Then you have to bring in the accountants And you have to reduce The jury verdict

To present value value. Right. I times P equals V or whatever the fuck the learned hand came up with. Yeah. Fuck that guy. He wasn't so bad learning hand. I was, I don't know. Just angry. I'm angry and fucking spitting venom at everybody. Well, but I mean, how many, you know, I, this might not be appropriate. How many, how many indigent clients have you had so far where you're like, you know, if you'd had something decent to eat every day of your childhood and had had a decent learning experience, you know, you might not be here. Right. I soured on the prosecution business real fast.

For me, it's more of if you had a stable place to live and did not have, weren't on the street surrounded by fentanyl and mass. would you be in this situation right? Right. That's where it is now. And it's heartbreaking. It is. And, you know, there's that terrifying statistic, David, that says that in education circles, they can predict by third grade who will succeed and who will fail. And it's not based on their reading scores.

it's based in large part on their home life if they have parents who are actively involved in their life and love them they're likely to get the material they're likely to learn and go through the school and go through school and come out mostly okay you know all things other things notwithstanding like you know getting your childhood stolen from you by some some sexually predatory man.

What? But we know. And yet if you bring up something like that, the maggots, the Republicans will say, well, you know, that's just, that's just lily-libered, panty-waste liberalism. What you've got to do is you've got to beat some sense in to them. Do they not get, of course,

Of course, do they not get? Of course they don't get. What they don't get is that liberalism gave birth to the freedom that they cherish so fucking dearly. You know, it's liberalism that brought you the abundance that you fucking are thinking that you have right now, MAGA prison. Yeah. But the idea of freedom and liberty has been so cheap. I remember a long, long time ago, a dear friend of mine, he's still a contributor to the program, social scientist, we still correspond from time to time. He's got his Ph.D. in archaeology. Oh, nice.

He's not using it because, well, we don't favor silly shit like that anymore. and colleges have de-emphasized things like anthropology, archaeology, sociology, because we don't really need those people in a free market capitalist America, not do we? Well, no. But he observed, we need more managers.

Yeah, we need more. I doubt of people. Yeah, well, we need, you know, we need more people like in the movie. be Brazil, you know. That reminds me. We haven't heard from Wave in a long time, and I hope he's okay. I just, it's just so, I mean,

it's just so, the future present, the present future value, what the fuck are they talking? I know, I know. But my friend long ago said, you know, we have cheapened the idea of freedom to the point that we define it by the, by the fact that we have 45 different brands of breakfast cereal to choose from.

Oh, that's some freedom. And post. And Kellogg. And Kellogg. You have three choices, actually. And, you know, there's not, and nothing says freedom like getting up in the morning and having a great big bowl of sugar frosted cocoa bombs. I like, I like cereal.

I like my cereal, but still, I understand that. Victoria and I were talking the other day, and we came up with a taxonomy of cereal. There's breakfast cereal, and then there's kids cereal. I like your lucky charms. Yeah. And then there's dessert cereal. Oh, like the cookie crisp. Cookie crisp is one that she named.

specifically, and I countered with Reese's puffs. Oh, Reese's puff cereal. Yeah, that's... I mean, how is that anything but dessert? Rees's puffs... It's dessert. Rees's puffs, a banana sliced on top of it, and chocolate milk. Yeah, yeah.

Serve that in a broad-brimmed, shallow bowl at a white tablecloth restaurant in New York City, and it's $30 fucking dollars. Someone's taking that idea and fucking doing a business plan right now. I have no doubt it's like, no, actually several years ago, somebody opened a restaurant in Gotham that just served breakfast cereal. And there was a line around the block. Yes. You know, we're, sometime, sometime this month or next, we're, and I think I've harped on this in the past, David, but, you know, I'm a crank. Over, over, over on what I call hamburger row in Fayetteville.

It's the Greater Walmart Lowe's Shopping Plaza. Is that the name of it? No, no, that's what I call it. Oh, okay. We have Wendy's, Boob Evans, McDonald's, Arbys, Gino's Pizza and Spaghetti House and Pub, an Asian fusion place. Okay. We also have dominoes.

And across the highway, we have Long John Silver's, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Taco Hell, and out of those, Long John Silver's, Taco Hell, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Arby's, McDonald's, Bob Evans, Wendy's, and Gino's all serve chicken fingers. About a mile down the road there's Dairy Queen which also serves, wait for it,

chicken fingers. Chicken fingers. So we've got a brand spanking new restaurant opening sometime this month or next. It has the incredibly stupid name of Huey Magoos and guess what they're

guess what they're guess what kind of store restaurant they are a chicken a chicken finger place yes you telegraph that one a little bit

well I meant to you go up the road and you can get chicken fingers at Burger King and you can get chicken fingers at the hot bar in Kroger's. Oh, wait, you can get chicken fingers in the hot bar, so that's, we're up to a dozen. Yeah, capitalism is bad enough. Stupid, unimaginative capitalism is offensive.

I mean, yeah. The guy who's behind it posted on Facebook the other day and said, how many of you are going to try Huey Magoos when it opens in October or November? And I just said, well, I've had the chicken fingers from the 12 other places within a one-mile radius of Huey Magoos. So, you know, after the new wears off and the madness dies down, I'll probably try them too. But it's like meaningless consumerism. Right. because freedom, because I think I know where you were going with the comment before,

freedom has been reduced to nothing but being able to attain one's pecuniary interests to get a new TV. You're free to get a new TV and the big TV and watch the sports ball game and the rasslin. And you don't have to read the news. You don't have to read books. You can get the news from the Fox. and he gets your brand new iPhone 97. Yes.

And don't forget in the afternoon, those of us who have to watch our stories. Right. Right. And the days of our lives that have been going on for fucking 375 years. Days of our general children's hospital. Yeah. And Tim and.

Tim and Laura or fucking Jim and Laura or whatever the fuck who've been broken up and got back together again multiple times and they've had this way. You want to know what here I mean I was talking about retreating into the past

and you know Raymond Chandler's novels and whatnot but you just mentioned Luke and Laura Luke and Laura that's it Yeah, the entire country, and I was going off to college at about that time, and guys and girls alike were gathering in the TV rooms of their dorms and fraternity and sorority houses and whatnot. Classes were being ditched to watch General Hospital. and the central moment

and of course Anthony Geary who played Luke passed away in the last few months I'm sorry I'm tired Jeannie Francis who played Laura is of course married to Jonathan Frakes who played number one Yeah, yeah William Ricker

Yeah, Reiker But that whole story arc began with a rape on a disco dance floor. Oh, really? The great romance of the late 70s and early 80s and spy plots and smuggling and whatnot all began with a rape on a disco dance floor. And it was like, this is so cool.

Oh, it's so romantic. Is it really? Okay. the whole damn country I don't know TV has fucked TV has fucked us up Roxanne

has fucked us up all of us TV's fucked us up I think well like I said the world is too much with us we lay waste our days coming and going

and getting his spending yeah yeah although I do I do I do like my Star Trek and I do like my Star Wars and I like my

I mean I used to work a blockbuster that was like my second job hollywood video is my second job blockbuster was my third job um but i though i wrote those two those two are like synonymous but like i grew like i had acts i got free movie rentals and shit so like i'm i'm not immune to it you know i'm not immune to it and so like i like watching movies and i like watching tv i mean i i used to watch a lot more TV than I do now. I can tell you that. Like, I couldn't

have, like, I used, I used, like you, I used to be addicted to fucking Morning Joe. I used to, I used to get up and watch Morning Joe all the time. I know, it's terrible, isn't it? Yeah, and, um, I was watching, like, it was like MSNBC. I was like, let me snort that shit. You know what I mean?

I used to be that way. And so, and I just couldn't anymore. I was yelling and screaming at the TV. I was up in the middle of the night. You know what I mean? Like, it was too much. And I turned it off. And, you know, I went back to school and stuff.

But, I don't know. And now it's just gotten worse. Ever since I turned it off, it's gotten worse, it seems. I can't have. handle much of it. And then the ads. Jesus Christ, the ads, right? Brought to you by Flonase and your

fucking anal leakage and fucking your fucking eyeballs will bleed or whatever the fuck. I was like, those aren't side effects. Those are effects of whatever fucking pharmaceutical they're selling. You know what I mean on the advertisement? Absolutely.

Absolutely. All the pharmaceutical ads. I mean, I just got a gentle reminder from Lee in New York that we're getting a little bit Andy Rooney here. What does that mean? Andy Rooney, the professional curmudgeon for 60 minutes.

Oh, yeah. Well. I mean, he said, people like things that are golden. People like better, so call it super. They like food that is crisp, and therefore you get post-super golden crisp.

Well, you know what? Get off my fucking lawn. that's what I feel. You know, I'm a little shout at the cloud. I'll be the fucking cranky cremudge in the old man, even though I'm younger pretty much

than everybody. Yeah, yeah, you got it. At best, you're in your apprenticeship. I mean, while, in a past mistress, you know, I just, I did 20 minutes on this program

about being irritated at finding out I'd been talking to a fucking machine. Okay. See, sometimes you and Malloy have this ability to just like, I listen to your, listen to your podcast, obviously. And sometimes when the pair of you get going, right, and just ranting and raving, the way the pair of you use words, sometimes just I cannot stop laughing, you know, because you're so angry and you're so in the moment and you just don't realize. I guess how, like, how on the money you are with your words. And then all of a sudden I hear something and it's like, I've never heard it put that way before,

but it's perfectly understandable. And then I just start laughing because of the way it's been put. And it's not, it's not that what you're talking about is funny. It's that the way you, the way the pair of you like have this ability to just, like, I don't know, have this like sardonic

sarcasm in the middle of your rage outs and sometimes it's just so fucking fucking hilarious I well okay so was it yesterday that

nitwit Nero was having a connipion about or maybe about clocks he was mad at Tom Cotton and he docks he doxed Tom Cotton on tripe social, you know, the bobble-throated maggot

senator from Arkansas. No, that's not striking a bell, I was Well, he had, you know, he's holding up a daylight savings time, Bill. And Nitwit Niro, as part of his closing argument,

I guess you would say, said, People are so sick of having to set their clocks twice a year. And what immediately occurred to me was motherfucker nobody sets their clocks the clock set themselves

you know he's he's still I don't know he's still rocking around the clock with Bill Haley in the goddamn comments and he's he's turning his clock back with the key

yeah right he's and he's winding the cat and putting out the clock at night Oh my God And I got another one in my hip pocket this evening, David. Now he's mad at lawnmowers. Lawmowers, do them. I'm not kidding.

I know you're not. And that's the thing. That's part of why it's so fucking hilarious to me. Well, let's see. I had it right here. Damn it. Sometimes the stories get lost among the Nazi. and the rapists.

Yeah, the Nazis and fucking pedophiles and fucking, fucking demon war. Shit. I mean, he's... I don't know what the fuck. He's trying... I don't know what the fuck right.

Now he's trying to start a war with Mexico. You know, he... Of course he is. And invade Cuba and Greenland and fucking everyone else, yeah. And he invited Iran to the fucking bomb Iran or bomb Iran. or bomb L.A. and San Diego.

Oh, Jesus. For what purpose? Oh, God. Maybe I should have hit this before you call. I should have made this the top story, not Jim Baker. But, well, here's the clip. This was in Grand Forks, Nebraska, Stan. This victory, you want to see a tremendous victory because it verifies all the things we did.

And again, remember, with the way. It's just artificial. It's a little bit high. It's a small price to pay for keeping the world safe, keeping our country safe. They can take out a city. Let them take out Los Angeles. Let them take out San Diego. This is a very small price to pay. And it's going to be over with it. It's essentially almost over with. And they might keep going a little long, you know. They always say they have a big threshold for pain. They need it. Let me tell you, they need it. But it's going to end very soon. and it'll end one way or the other and your gas and your gasoline and all of the things. And don't.

Did you notice that the... Did he have a complete sentence at all? No, no, no, no, no, no. It was just fragments and comma splices and run-ons and, yeah. But did you notice when he said they can take out Los Angeles and San Diego? I did. You know, he said the direct quote was, let them. take out.

Yeah. Yeah. Like we just, we just stand down. But did you notice that all those good God fear and upstanding Bible believing, Christ-centered evil, gelical, gun, the mentalist, ammo, sexual, Christian maggots there, a barking and a hootin. Did you notice how they cheered when he said they can take out Los Angeles and San Diego? They cheered. They cheered the theoretical murder of 10 million of their fellow. Americans.

God damn. That's how fucking sick they are. I don't know what to say about that, Roxanne. I really don't. I really don't. For what it's worth, Gavin Newsom put out an X and said

this is an impeachable offense. But now we have this growing... The whole goddamn presidency has been one big long impeachable offense yeah i know congratulations congratulations uh it's but but you know now we've got and i mentioned it in yesterday's program now there's beginning at it's kind of some you know we talked about waiting for the other shoe to drop well there's a little bit of there's a little bit of premature drape measuring going on and now the the middle of the rotors the center righteers are saying, you know, once we've got power,

the Democrats can't waste time impeaching Donald Trump. It doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Who said that? Who said that? Well, among others, Rahm Emanuel. Rom Emanuel can go sit down and shut the fuck up somewhere. No, well, okay, fair. Who else is saying that?

Tammy Duckworth has intimated that. now on Friday on the front porch maybe last week or week before Roger suggested that she was saying have hearings first but there is there's a there's a babble stream of people saying you know the American people want us to get to work to lower their gas prices and their gross prices we'll never do that if we waste all our time impeaching him oh oh for fuck sake

okay one they need to be they need one they can walk and chew gum at the same fucking time bingo that's one two if they think that they're going to get any legislation past a fucking trump presidency without fucking a veto they're out of their fucking minds and unless we have veto proof majorities nothing's going to get done anyway so what are they going to spend their time on bump promising the fucking moon and then delivering nothing before a presidential election

that doesn't seem like a very good strategy to me politically speaking no no and frankly I think if we get the House and the House does not impeach it is a dereliction of constitutional fucking duty you know what

it is a breach of the the other day. I went over to Chris's house to I went over to Chris's house to watch the baseball game on Saturday. And we were talking about this a little bit. And I kind of feel the way that you do. But Chris kind of feels differently,

and he made a lot of good points when we were talking about this. And he said that if they impeach and fail to remove, the media will spin it as another victory for Trump. And that gave me... Pause. That made me think, yeah, it gave me pause.

Because it was a really good fucking point. Chris is not a stupid person. No, I don't think anyone's ever alleged that. No, no, he's not. And Arlo is a very, very good boy. Yeah. And so, like, me and Chris, some of the conversations I have with Chris

who are like some of the conversations I have with you, right? where we just get to flow in. Like we were at the bar the other night watching some other game. It was Thursday night. We were watching the football game. And then after Michelle left, we got into,

we started having a conversation flowing back and forth the way you and I do sometimes. And, yeah, but that gave me pause. But I'm kind of, I'm, I'm with you.

I think they have to impeach. They have to at least introduce the articles of impeachment, right? And have the fucking hearing. at least. I was going to say, are you still there? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Put all the evidence out there. Exactly. And what I was talking to Chris about is like, just have two fucking years of hearings. Let's just have hearings every

fucking day. Don't let the media talk about anything else. Don't give them it out. Don't give them anything else to talk about except for the next fucking scandal in the Epstein. files because if they if they are given any anything fucking else to talk about they will and that's and Donald Trump knows that and so that's why we that's why he evaded a brand that's why he's

fucking um saying all kinds of crazy shit about green linen Mexico and Cuba and fucking you know what I mean and yeah I do fucking people and fucking and again and again we understand the separation not just the separation of power but the separation of duties and obligations between the House and the Senate. Whether or not to impeach is entirely the business of the House. Right. The House cannot base its decision on whether or not to impeach on whether or not they think the Senate will convict. Yes, that's a very good point.

That's a very good point. But I did want to take us back to him being angry at lawnmowers. Right. Okay. Because I found it, and it's worth it, you know, these clips saying, Oh, ho, and a stupid old grandpa. This man is criminally insane, and every day that he remains in the Oval Office, the entire world is at risk of descending into a nuclear conflagration. Go back to the San Diego, you know, let him hit the Los Angeles in San Diego.

Well, what have I been beating on for months now? He's looking for Cassus Bell E to use a. nuclear weapons against Iran. Okay? I mean, this is a guy who said way back at the beginning of his first term, or even before it, what's the point of having nuclear weapons

if you can't use them? This is a guy who wanted a nuke a hurricane. Right. Now, never mind how Iran would manage to attack Los Angeles or San Diego. That's another, that's another example of his disordered mind. But it would provide him an opportunity to nuke Iran, which he desperately wants to do.

And we have had reports out of the situation room saying he keeps talking about it. The generals, his generals, have been tasked with looking at that alternative. We don't know how close to disaster we are every morning that he wakes up in his presidential baby bed. And so, as previously noted, David, he's mad at lawnmowers. You need to be a student at the top of your class at MIT to turn on a lawnmower nowadays, you know? But I got rid of all that stuff. Now you can have a lawnmower. And again, the monkeys clapped.

I didn't hear the clapping again. Maybe it's just some... Well, he said, no, you can have a lawnmower. And along the way, he pantomimes pulling the cord on a lawnmower. Okay. I haven't pulled the cord on a lawnmower in over a decade. You know what I do? I get my little battery and I put it into the battery compartment of my lawnmower.

And I press the button and then I start running because it's self-propelled and it drags me along behind it. It's running that's funny. It's great aerobic exercise for me. We also have a lot of rider because there's an acre here. and there's no cord with that either and I certainly don't have a degree from MIT and I sit down on it and it's got a it's got a dead man seat so you have to be sitting on it to start it

and I push the brake in and pull the choke out and turn the key and it starts right up no cord and this fucker owns golf courses nobody's pulling cords on the gang mowers on his tacky golf motel in New Jersey or California or Florida? He knows what he saw him leave it to beaver. I don't know.

I don't know if they mowed lawns and leave it to beaver. Maybe Daddy made him mow the lawn once. Or more likely, he saw the Hispanic gardener crank a lawn mower. Wow Yeah, old man mad at lawnmowers Jesus Christ And now I've already played for you The clip of what he said

In Nebraska Let them Let them hit Los Angeles in San Diego Yeah I guess he doesn't realize that the maggots That there are maggots in San Diego In Los Angeles He doesn't get

of a shit? No, he doesn't. So, former, and I'd get corrected if I didn't say it this way, former UFC hype man, Stephen Chung immediately swung into action because people were going, what the fuck?

And he said, the media freak out over President Trump's comments is not rooted in reality. He was clearly... The media freak out over President Trump's Trump's comments is not rooted in reality.

I'm at it. Huh? He was, he was, it didn't make sense anymore the second time. No, it didn't, because up is down, the south is north, east is west, right is wrong, good is evil. I mean, there's a video objectively he said that. Pure Orwellian horseshit. And he included the clip that makes a liar of he's the. even chung

the media freak out over president trump's comments is not rooted in reality he was clear he was clearly stating u.s. cities would have been threatened if a nuclear iran hadn't been stopped

that's not what he said at all america is safer because of the president iran has no nuclear no navy no air force and no money then why are we still there then if that's the case if that's the truth the clear that can't come home dumbass

oh my god I can't I can't this I'm talking about I can't I can't be gased anymore I can't do it I cannot accept this I can't accept I can't accept that you know for a long time I used to talk about

the handle of 1.75 liters of cheap Mexican gasoline and the swirly straw that I kept in the studio sometimes I yearn for it. Did you hear my brain stutter though? Right now? Yeah. I still have not recovered my ability to speak properly after that gas lighting.

Yeah. What's that clip? We are all now more stupid for having heard that. Right. It's not based in reality. He said that. I heard him say that. There's a video of him saying that.

He said that. And then you're going to get on the TV, on the TV. box there, Stephen, and you're going to say that I didn't hear with my ears, what I heard with my ears? Why are you going to do that to my brain? You asshole? Sorry.

Steven? Stephen Chung? All I can say is have another stick of butter, buddy. Wow. I don't like being gaslit. That puts strain to my nervous system, a nervous system that's already fucking, you know,

And again, again, it makes your brain hurt to hear him even say it. And I won't do the stupid voice. I'll read it like a professional broadcaster. Oh, okay. Okay, I'm going to do something I seldom do. Okay. I'm going to time travel, David. Okay.

It's a small price to pay for keeping the world safe, keeping our country safe. They can take out a city. Let them take out Los Angeles. Let them take out San Diego. This is a very small price to pay, and it's going to be over with very soon. What the fuck? It's essentially almost over with, and they might keep going a little long. they always say they have a big threshold for pain

they need it let me tell you but it's gonna end very soon and it'll end one way or the other I don't mm hmm what but uh

uh uh uh uh... uh... but you have you have to plow through the crazy and you have to understand what he is saying in that second paragraph.

Okay. I will try my best. They always say they have a big threshold for pain. They need it. Let me tell you. But it's going to end very soon and it'll end one way or the other. That's another nuclear threat, David. Can you, can you, can you explain to something?

Elaborate? Yeah, please. There's only, okay, they say they have a big threshold for pain. Who's they? They is Iran. They is Iran. Okay. Okay.

And they need it. Why do they need it? We've already wasted the gross national product of, several major countries on munitions that we've dropped on them shot at them they need

a bomb dropped on them they need it let me tell you they're going yeah because they're going to experience pain like they've never experienced before because because David it's going to end very soon and it'll end one way or the other

it being the the war with with Iran. Because he thinks it'll be just like August 1945. Oh, and then the Japanese surrender. But this time it'll be the Iranians. Yeah.

And we will go in and we will occupy Iran and steal all their shit. Yeah, it's hard for me not to tune him out when he speaks. So it's a like it's hard. And like when I do try to pay attention to him, I get so thoroughly confused that

I can't even process. thought for a minute. I have to like recover from hearing him. And so that's not helpful, you know? So it makes it difficult for me to process and understand what he's actually saying. That's why I asked you to explain to me like a five-year-old

because I couldn't. Well, I mean, did I? I mean, have I made it clear now? That is a nuclear Yeah, that makes it abundantly clear. And that makes it really clear now. For me anyway, at least. Other people probably got it. I don't have the capacity of like hearing him.

I just, I tune him, I tune him out. And Matt with some clarification, hi Matt, sent this along. I said that Newsom tweeted something. Matt, how are you finding links to WB-O-Y in Clarksburg, West Virginia? Because that's what

he sent me. Newsom calls for 25th Amendment after Trump's remarks on California. Gavin Newsom led the charge telling the Hill on Tuesday that Trump is mentally ill. Time for the 25th, he said in a

statement. Yeah, let's see that. I'm game, but, you know, I dare say I've spent as much or more time analyzing the 25th Amendment's text than anybody else doing this work. or as anyone else doing this work.

And it's predicated, it's predicated on an impossibility, David. Which is what? It requires the vice president and half of the cabinet to sign off on a statement saying that the president is no longer fit to discharge the duties of his office. It also says the vice president and some other, the vice president and some other body as Congress may provide by law. Yeah, which they never have.

Which they never have, but they could give them, they could, by law, provide, give themselves the authority. But I don't think they can cut out the vice president, but they can give themselves the authority. Well, they can give themselves the authority if the president signs a bill passed by both the house

and the Senate. Yeah, that's true. He's not going to sign a bill that cuts his own throat. Yeah, I mean, it depends. on if we have like a veto proof majority or not I doubt we will but no we might we might we might get well we might get close to 60 if everything you know if all if everything goes

as hoped for but it would you'd still need to scrounge up at least 10 senators probably to convict him upon a bill of impeachment but I go back and by the way I need to send out a quick thank you to Texas T thank you so much I'm sorry I'm sorry it took me a moment but you know David and I do get into some rather

detailed conversations so thank you Texas T we are down to 530 bucks to get caught up here on the 6th day of October thank you so much so much so what I'm here

I'm listening no no I'm trying to order my disordered mind what I still think is the greater likelihood is that something a decision will be made after November the 3rd if the shit really hits the fan for the maggots

and by really hits the fan I mean, they get their asses handed to them in the Senate and the House all over the country. That seats formerly deemed safe turn out to flip, then a decision will be had. And in a way, it's part for the course with this bunch, David, because, you know, they had intense meetings after the 2020 election. In fact, at some of those meetings, Mittwitt Nero confessed that, He knew he lost. And that was brought out repeatedly during the J6 hearings. Yep, that's what I was going to say.

But there will be heated conversations. If the shit hits the fan on November 3rd, there will be heated conversations about what to do with it. He will, of course, scream stolen elections. But if the majority is seated on January the 3rd, and there are a lot of people writing a lot of articles saying that ultimately that's what the maggots will do is they'll refuse to seat the incoming Democrats. Pardon me, sneeze coming. Nobody needs to hear that. But the bottom line is if the Democratic majority takes power, there will be discussions had about him.

him resigning the office and Nixon and Fordlike Jimmy Dick Bowman as a show of loyalty pardoning him for everything up to and including having killed Cockrobin and kidnapping the Lindberg baby. Like Lindberg baby. So you still think that's a likelihood, that they're going to have him resign or something? Yeah, if he thinks there's even a slight chance of being convicted in the Senate and after the bloodletting, and if a bloodletting happens,

the remaining maggot senators will be shitting their britches and could conceivably some of them be flipped. You know, I mean, what was once a safe seat in Alaska is now a toss-up. And so you might get Lisa Murkowski siding with a new senator from Alaska. And if Susan Collins is beaten by Troy Jackson, that's one less Republican to defend him. Oh yeah, I like that guy Up in Vermont Maine, Maine, thank you

But I see that as a distinct likelihood If nature doesn't take its course before then And there are a lot of people out there Who think that I ain't going to make it To quote our dear friend Todd Part of me

Part of the reason why I'm sorry to interrupt But part of the reason why I feel so bad I think is because I would prefer him to die. I don't have any plans on killing him or anything like that. I'm not trying to bring a back about his demise. But like I would be glad when he's dead. And that's not who I am as a person.

No, but if you think politically, that would probably work better to Jimmy Dick Bowman's political fortunes then would pardon because I think the Ford effect would come into play. Ford pardoned Nixon, the nation did not forgive him for it

and that's how we got Jimmy Carter. And a forensic psychologist, a clinical and forensic psychologist named John Paul Garrison has been saying that in his babblings in Mobile, Alabama, his difficulties enunciating words indicated, well, Garrison said in a video from yesterday,

Trump seems to be experiencing significant issues with language production. Now, he's done this before. We've seen a number of times. He slurs words. He mixes words up. He cannot articulate himself. Specifically right here, we're hearing issues with articulation. and in the clip

Nitwit Niro thanks the people who showed up and it was you know he was in Mobile back in the first campaign and there was a woman literally throwing her baby at him Jesus

the room was nowhere near full this time through and he in his opening in Mobile he said wow thank you thank you very much

and I want to say a very very special hello to a place called C-U-L-L-E-D C-U-L-L-E-D, cold mobile and Garrison the psychologist pointed out right there he was trying to say a place called Mobile

and it came out a place called Mobile and that would have to do with the motor functioning of his face and so long story short Garrison said he had other events. He tried to say, why aren't you? And it came out as a mess.

And then he had an arm spasm at almost the same time. He couldn't produce language. And so that is an example of dysarthria. And he said to read. I've never heard that word before. Let's find out. Disarthria is a motor speech disorder where damage to your nervous system causes the muscles that produce speech to become paralyzed or weakened. The damage may make it difficult to control your tongue or voice box, causing you to slur words.

Speech therapy can help you communicate more effectively. Oh, wow. And what the psychologist, Mr. Garrison, said is the reason this matters is that if there is damage to the brain, for example, if someone has a stroke or something, something similar, it can cause a lesion in the brain. There could be damage and impairment in the pathways that deal with both the limbs and the mouth. And the other, the, the, the PhD physical therapist who operates under epistemic crisis, pointed out that he's been, he's been having spasms. His arm will jerk uncontrollably.

And of course, it also goes with the facial drooping. the inability to remain awake. Oh, I thought that had to do... Oh, okay, never mind. I'm sorry. Or he may be on enough drugs that is causing muscle twitchings. I think the drug is called provigil. And it's what they have to jack him up on every day just to make him appear semi-functional. Yeah.

I mean, we're in wait and see mode, but, you know, the very beginning of our conversation. And by the way, the photo that goes with, it's a Reuters photo by Kylie Cooper, it's a close up of his face, which includes his right ear. And there's nothing to indicate anything ever happened to his right ear. remember where he was wearing the light days panty liner yeah oh yeah yeah yeah from the

from Butler PA assassination attempt that wasn't an assassination attempt that wasn't an assassination attempt yeah right but I know and you were talking about it at the beginning of the call that you just feel like you're

overwhelmed and we all are you know sometimes Sometimes I wish this program had greater reach Because you're not the only one And I'm not the only one And we in this little family community congregation Are not the only ones

But I guess it's hard to make something like this A profit center Because you can make millions As a monger of hate And you can starve telling the truth I feel like I'm going to puke But I got to get out of here unfortunately.

I wish I could just do, you know, do a four-hour program here. But I have to start prepping some barbecue. Nice. Barbecue's good. And, you know, you were talking about a, what, a peace practice or whatever? Yeah, I need a peace practice. That's my zen. That's one of my zens.

Stepping the barbecue? Is, you know, getting out there and messing around with the barbecue and paying attention to the temperature. and making sure that the fire is just right and making sure it's low and slow because I got family coming in. And I'm so excited I could just bust. And they will arrive tomorrow evening.

And so I'll be on the air then, but I don't think I'll be on the air Thursday, and I'm not sure about Friday. Okay. We're talking about, in one case, people I have never met. And in another case, people I haven't seen in eight years. I hope you have fun with your family. Oh, I think it's going to be sweet indeed.

But try to, yeah, try to find a peace practice. But don't think it's limited to anything involving anything that's exotic. I mean, it can happen anywhere you choose to make it. Okay. A walk, a movie. Anything that allows you to disconnect. Yeah, I started watching, I re-watched the Mandalorian, and then I watched Mandalorian and Greygoo.

Oh, I still, I admit, I want to see it. With Little Baby Yoda. then I started watching the Acolyte on Disney Plus because I actually restarted my Disney Plus. Blah, blah, blah, excuse me, subscription. And I started watching The Acolyte. Carrie Ann Moss makes an appearance in episode one. And they have a full-on Matrix fight in the first episode. Oh.

Yeah. And I only watched the first episode. episode and maybe a portion of the second one i don't recall probably enough to start it over again because i wasn't i was kind of feeling and i've been feeling in this malaise this funk for like three or four days really um so i i don't know i don't know i don't know roxian but but the important thing the important thing david is that you recognize it and that recognizing it you deal with And it's only by recognizing it that you can take positive steps toward. Deal with it sounds so simplistic, but addressing it, processing it,

holding it out at arm's length and turning it around in your hand and seeing it in three dimensions. And by the way, you just got another note from Mary, who said, tell David, there were many out here in listening. that cried with him. Really? I'm sorry. No, don't apologize. You know how much I hate the phrase permission structure.

Oh. But in this instance, I don't hate it. When we are vulnerable, when we are honest with our emotions, and people hear us being that way, we open the doors for others who may very well have been feeling the same thing and didn't

feel at liberty to feel it completely. Catharsis is a real thing. It has stood the test of time since Aristotle identified it. And you provided catharsis for a lot of people. And so, you know, it wasn't a matter of self. And Daryl and Houston says, the fact that just witnessing evil can affect David so deeply just goes to prove the quality of his heart

that should be seen as a positive attribute and I agree with Darrell so take heart from that David and know that there is a community that stretches from sea to shining sea and around the globe that loves you but feels what you feel okay

I mean can you be down with that I guess, yeah. I mean, I don't want to make anybody feel bad. No, you didn't. Like I said. I feel bad all of the time. We're going to work on that. And sometimes it's easier, it's easier to, it's easier to, it's easier to, it's easier to, like, hold sometimes and some days where I can actually have, like, have fun and laugh.

Like, there were points in this conversation where it was easier to hold. and I was able to laugh in a little bit with you, you know. But in recent days, it's just been really heavy. It's been really heavy. But I'm trying to hold it. And it has a lot of, it has a lot to do with all of the trauma that I've been through. Yes. And which makes it, which makes it feel safe and not being able, yeah.

Which makes it normal and natural. Yeah. And like wanting to have hope. I want to have hope. I want to have hope in something. I want to look forward to something. And it just feels like everything I look forward to just turns to shit. Sometimes you have to search.

No. Okay, let me read. I've referenced it a couple of times here. Let me close with this. The whole thing, without me screwing it up. Okay. William Wordsworth, early 19th century, England. The world is too much with us late and soon.

Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers. Little we see in nature that is ours. We have given our hearts away a sordid boon, this sea that bears her bosom to the moon, the winds that will be howling at all hours, and are upgathered now like sleeping flowers. For this, for everything, we are out of tune. It moves us not.

Great God, I'd rather be a pagan suckled, and a creed outworn, so might I, standing on this pleasant Lee, have glimpses that would make me less forlorn, have sight of proteus rising from the sea, or hear old Triton blow his wreathed horn. Oh, no. I remember studying the shit out of that in, like, sophomore year.

For this, for everything, we are out of tune. He's crying out for something that isn't crass and commercial. that isn't polluted with needs for getting and spending, that allows the heart to just be and be at peace. We love you, David. You take care. And Ralph says, call more often, David, but we understand you work a job.

And be careful with the buttons you push on Discord. I'm sorry I didn't realize we I'm sorry I didn't realize we weren't friends anymore because we were friends this modern life take care David talk to you soon I love you I love you too bye I do love our David so profound and so powerful and so real

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