Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, Cinco de Mayo, 2026

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

The Secretary of DHHS is an ongoing threat to humanity. I would know. RFK is a menace to society. That's it. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:01 The password is Putter. It's... Here we go, live from behind the corn phone curtain. It's head-on with Roxanne Kincaid. Three hours of cussin and discussin with America's only liberal transvilly elitist right here, right now,
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Starting point is 00:01:13 Late start this evening, but here we go on this Cinco de Mayo, 2026. It is in fact the 5th day of May, 2026. This is the horn. Head on. That's where you'll find us on the interweb tubes. That's where you go if you'd like to be part of the day of the day of the day. the Mary Wacky Zany Real Time Madcap Multimedia Extravaganza
Starting point is 00:01:33 that is the Horn chat room in the three hours in which this program is live. Monday through Friday, 5 to 8 p.m. usually, Eastern Daylight Time. Two, usually, to 5 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time. Yeah, all time zones in between and the Great Globe round and whatever time it is when you're listening to the podcast. If you are a member of the podcasting contingent of the Horn Family Community Congregation, thank you ever so kindly for joining us in that way. much appreciated and well if you could take a moment when you're listening to the podcast and just leave us a remark or review a thought a comment on the podcast wherever you downloaded it would be awfully helpful and thanks so much to those of you who do that
Starting point is 00:02:18 engaging with the algorithm somehow helps the algorithm to you know because we've surrendered our lives to these stupid numerical incantations for lack of a better term yeah hi I'm Roxanne it is Titanic Tuesday on the horn
Starting point is 00:02:47 yes I had my I had my echo cardiogram earlier this afternoon I got home right about what would have been showtime and hell i don't know how it went um i laid back on the table and they the young woman ran the transducer over and
Starting point is 00:03:11 and i sat there and watched the black and white tv and saw my heart so you know i don't know i don't know how it is with other people but uh you know so far i've seen my heart my brain my skull i've got two copies of my skull sitting here looking down at me uh-huh uh and uh well i guess it'll be a couple of days of just hanging around and waiting to see what kind of you know see what the results are but uh the young woman who the technician who did my echocardiogram did a very good job of keeping a poker face and at no point in time did she go so i'll take that as a win uh and uh Well, fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And then next week, Monday, let's see, 6.30, 6 p.m. Sunday evening. And they're following, no caffeine, no decath either, no chocolate. I'll try to get through the no chocolate part somehow. And then NPO after midnight for the stretch test at 9 a.m. Ooh, good times. I'm going to be ready for breakfast after that one. And hopefully we just find out that everything's copacetic and cool and groovy and happy and yeah, nobody wants to crack my chest or anything. Yeah, yay.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm definitely all about that. Well, thank you, Ralph's. Raps just jumped in and did her part of Bruce and Karen's Memorial Challenge, despite the fact that we didn't complete it, Thank you so much, Ralph, it means a ton. And, of course, every program here at the Horn begins with gratitude. This program is no different, so we say thank you to our fifth day of the month subscribers and contributors via PayPal. And that means thank you ever so kindly as follows. Thank you, Kenda, out in Missouri.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Thank you, Kevin, in Colorado Springs. Thank you, Cecilia, so very much. Thank you all for being partial sponsors of the program, helping to keep this independent liberal progressive media experiment on the air here into our 23rd year. Thank you so much. Where are we? Yeah, we are at $3,300, $3,3,325. That's how far behind we are in funding.
Starting point is 00:06:04 the program with various and sundry bills this brand new month breathing down my neck. Yay. Oh, goodness me. Ralph says, today I had a more invasive mammogram because I have some calcium areas, calcifications. That sounds even more fun than what I went through. So fingers crossed for you too, Ralphs. Love you dearly. and old folks talking about our ailments
Starting point is 00:06:39 well get the lumbigo Matt in San Francisco says Want to see my hip I can show you what it looks like when you have no cartilage left And it's bone on bone God that sounds painful enough as it is Oh Yeah I've seen my knee that way
Starting point is 00:07:00 Apparently I was born without any cartilage under my kneecaps. Just like a beaver, I guess. I don't know. What? Shut up, Roxanne. Jeff Roe was born with a full set of teeth, just like a beaver. And thank you so much to Christopher.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Christopher just got us down to $3,300. 15 bucks. Thank you so much indeed. Okay, I can't wait to read this one. from Jeremy, one of the juvenile delinquent triplets there in the background in the old holler tree, that would be Jeremy and the Colombian spy, and of course the Camel Cardinal. I was never worried about your heart. You're a lefty, therefore it's crystal clear.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You can't have a heart. You're a socialist, Libtar, devil worshiper. The devil powers your transmission, not your heart. Fair enough. Okay, that wasn't as humiliating as I expected. Not that you need to work harder at it, Jeremy, okay? But as I said, hence forward now, every time I screw up or do something wrong or say something wrong, I can, having seen what I saw today, I can say, well, I'm sorry, but my heart was in the right place.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah. Uh-huh, yeah, okay. Well, you know, at least she tried. as to the password well the password was uh is putter as in to putter around the house or putter around in the garden or in this case well it's uh uh uh knitwit nero puttering around on the white house lawn Okay, let's sort out why this is. He had a putting green put in at the White House, and today he had some youngans at the White,
Starting point is 00:09:16 because, well, after Cole Allen said he's a rapist and a pedophile, you'll recall, that quote was read to him, and he said, I'm not a racist and I'm not a pedophile. Oh, you thought he was talking about you? I love the innocence with which that was said. Oh, that was you? Oh, okay. Well, I guess somebody at the White House said, hey, quick, we need to get some kids around the president real quick so people can see that he's not a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:09:55 No, it didn't work. And at one point in time, the kids who were there being used as, stage props. Nothing says loving kids like using them for props in support of nitwit Niro's presidential fitness test. He watched the kids messing around with golf clubs and golf balls for a little bit. Of course we know. We know Niro cheats at golf. Hey, improve your lie, Mr. Trump.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That lie's not good enough? I need to lie better. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. At any rate, it was an embarrassing moment. There were people in giant heads there, apparently from the Washington National's baseball club. One of them appears to be Teddy Roosevelt. Another one appears to be Abraham Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Never mind. Rie, no chocolate. Brother Deacon Asa says, forget about the NPO fasting and all that bullshit. If you ain't clutching a fifth of ornitos this momentous day, or as I call it, horny toes, Anyahu preferably, then you ain't doing your job right. Hell, maybe more people would listen if you had the wherewithal to do Limbaugh radio.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Okay, I'll do. This is a half a single in my hell. Please, please, don't encourage me toward my vices, brother Deacon. But, yeah, horny toes anjeho is doggone fine, without a doubt. It's what your high-class drunk is called a cheap and cheerful buzz. as you know as tequila goes
Starting point is 00:12:23 pun warning we in New York says he had a putting green installed is it because he's lost his drive he is as we say here in the hills that Fowler's a lost ball in high grass but he did
Starting point is 00:12:44 he tried to show the kiddies his awesome putting skills. Oops. Yeah, they brought him out to Survivor's Eye of the Tiger. Uh-huh. Some salute snapper walking alongside him. And I don't know, pro golfer or something.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Shake his hands with the kids. Okay, kids, wash your hands after this is over. Mm-hmm. Oh, there's some young women in the back, and they're not getting anywhere near him. You know what I love about this song? The fact that that vocalist is the same guy who sang all the ditties, am I recalling this correctly? He sang all the ditties for the bud-like real men-of-genious ads.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. You gotta love that. Anyway, so the music went on and on, kids got their putters out there on the green. They clear a space for NIT went Nero. The giant-headed Washington Nationals figurines come out. One kid strokes a putt. Gets close.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I love how in this manifestation of the President's Physical Fitness Test, Pudding. Pudding is an athletic endeavor. Nitwit Nero would drop dead if he tried to walk 18. He can barely even walk from the golf cart to the ball. Dude even drives up onto the fringe of a putting green to shamble over to where his ball is and maybe give the ball little bit of help and improve his lie and we did that part uh-huh oh so he's got the putter in his hand he lines up the putt the kids are kids are watching and he takes a test stroke and he gets nowhere near the
Starting point is 00:15:43 hole so somebody puts the ball back to him he tries again yeah no okay we're going to try one more Oh wait, there's Kimberly Gargoyle's favorite song from January the 6th, 2021, Gloria. Really? Gloria? Yeah. And there goes the third putt. Also, nowhere near the hole. And it wasn't like it was a 30-foot downhill putt with a break left and then a break right and a little humpet. No, it was just flattered and piss on a plate.
Starting point is 00:16:25 and the great golfer who claims to have a 2.8 handicap, the lowest on record for any president, well, I think that's more likely his IQ, but it is the lowest on record for any president. Oh, Jesus. It's just embarrassing. And then later, he had, he had the kids there in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah, yeah. A whole lot of kids. Of course, he's a towering embarrassment, and so it didn't work at all well. It was, like I said, a towering embarrassment. Or a girthy embarrassment, perhaps. Yeah, and of course there were cameras there to record the event for posterity. You got a bunch of cabinet creeps standing around.
Starting point is 00:18:02 There's Whiskey Pete, Kegbreath, and the Hoylehead Dead Bear Brainworm Vash Bear Lamprey standing directly behind it went nearer. More on that toxic chud in a moment. But, yeah, one, two, three. No, that's an adult. Is that Lindsay? No, one, two, three, four, five, six kids there around the Resolute Desk when this happened. We just broke every record, and now we're going to take a hit
Starting point is 00:18:40 because we have to make a journey down to Iran to take the nuclear weapon. They would have had a nuclear weapon within two weeks. Remember, we sent that beautiful B-2 bomber in, and we blew up their nuclear potential. It was obliterated for those that are not aware and to a point where they would take them weeks to dig down and we wouldn't let them dig down. We have our eyes on it all the time. But it was... Yeah, and in fact, we also obliterated some little girls about the same age as you over there, honey. Yeah, blew those little girls into a red mist. It was a great moment for America. A very important thing. So we would have had an Iran with a nuclear weapon, and maybe we wouldn't all be here right now. I can tell you the Middle East would have been gone. Israel would have been gone. And they would have trained their sites on Europe first and then us, because they're sick people.
Starting point is 00:19:45 These are sick people. And we're not going to let Luna. Oddly enough at this point in time, whalehead, dead bear, Vash Bear, Brain Worm, Lamprey is standing behind Orange Dad. and he's jotting something down. He's making notes. I don't know about what, but given the fact that there are children around there, I'm a little worried. The politics have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:20:07 The power of a nuclear weapon is something I don't even want to talk about. It's not going to happen. And we have beaten. And at one point in time, he went on to look at one of the kids and say, We had to use our mighty U.S. military, because you might be a little young for that. Run, kid! Run! And unfortunately, they let Whiskey Pete Kegbreath near the eldest of the three girls that they allowed into the Oval Office. Hey, hey, kid, what's your name?
Starting point is 00:20:50 You want to have a drink? My name's Pete. Peter, Pete. Yeah. But then I ran across this clip from long, long ago, and a reminder of just what we lost when we lost Robin Williams. It was 2012 when Robin Williams nailed nitwit Nero with this. Donald Trump is the Wizard of Oz.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He is the guy. He plays Monopoly with real fucking buildings. This is a scary man. And he owns all these beautiful. Beauty pageants, Miss America, Miss Universe. Isn't that a bit like Michael Vic owning a series of pet stores? It's a fucking catch-release program for him. This is a man who said, my daughter is hot.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Even people in Arkansas went, that's fucking wrong. That's just way out of place. And that fucking hair, my God. I believe the hair is the Donald. I believe that's it. I believe the body is a maintenance system for the hair. He goes home at night going, we're home. Hey, fucky, let's get out of here now.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Oh, fucker. Let's do this. Mailed it. Mm-hmm. And hey, look at West Virginia getting some relief. He dinged on Arkansas instead. Sorry, Arkansas. It was y'all's turn. Of course, that was back in 2012, so, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:22:26 You understand. What, Lee in New York, eye of the tiger, a long-distance dedication to each Epstein survivor. Ooh. Very well. laid indeed. The llama clapped her little clove and hooves together. That's good.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay. Now the juvenile delinquents are at it. Uh-oh, Aza knows as well. One day we'll get Roshana Kimball with talent on loan from Satan would let both hands behind my back. And no brain you won't need for
Starting point is 00:23:14 right-wing radio. Anyways. Let's hope not. Yeah, that's a good question. the putting green did nitwit nacho nero get an award for best score release all the Epstein files yes every last one of them i'm sure he he went back bragging about how he had i beat i beat every golfer in the field out on the pudding green today did you see melanie did you see ah um from cynthia in the bay area we kind of know where his hands have been. Hell, you might even want to wear one of those environment suits to
Starting point is 00:24:12 protect you from his filth. Yeah, that just wouldn't look good. Of course, you know, once you get the kids away from Orange Julius Gieser and Whalehead Dead Bear Brainworm Lamprey, you probably want to make sure that they've, that their shots are up to date. If you know, you know. And I said more on brain, the whalehead, dead bear, Vach bear, brainworm, lamprey in a moment, and that moment is here. He has announced, as of today,
Starting point is 00:24:55 or yesterday, rather, a series of changes designed to get health care providers to take their patients off of antidepressants like Prozac and Zobt and instead put them on non-pharmaceutical
Starting point is 00:25:20 alternatives. Oh dear God. You know, non-pharmaceutical alternatives worked. They would well, it's like that old thing. What do you call alternative medicine that works? Medicine. But in a press release he said,
Starting point is 00:25:59 today we take clear and decisive action to confront our nation's mental health crisis by addressing the overuse of psychiatric medications, especially among children. Oh, you shitbird. It was a dear colleague letter in which they told doctors to review the risks and benefits of psych meds with their patients.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And it said that, you know, Hey, instead of the pills, let's use psychotherapy instead and good nutrition, including lots of raccoon penis, physical activity and family support. We will support patient autonomy, require informed consent, and shared decision-making, and shift the standard of care towards. prevention, transparency, and a more holistic approach to mental health. What the fuck does that even mean? You know what?
Starting point is 00:27:29 There are some mental illnesses that you can't jimbro your way out of. And psychotherapy? Well, a lot of times a competent psychotherapy, therapist having performed psychotherapy, will say, hey, you need a pill. And then you take the pill and you take the pill. you feel better. But whalehead dead bear brainworm lamprey, I guess, well, I guess this is just another adjunct to Stephen Miller's desire to cut the population of the United States by a hundred million people.
Starting point is 00:28:08 One fucking suicide at a time! God, I hate them. You don't need that antidepressant, you just need a few million dollars. and some raccoon penis. This is just sickening. He is such a goddamn monster. Who knows how many people are still alive because of these medications?
Starting point is 00:28:59 And whalehead, dead bear, Vosh Bear, brainworm, lamprey went on and said, Let me be clear if you're taking psychiatric medication, we are not telling you to stop. We are making sure you and your clinician have the information and support to make the right decision for you. Then why did you say anything at all,
Starting point is 00:29:23 you fucking grifter? God damn. Meanwhile, with this particular story, I pulled up multiple accounts. Apparently, this twist, fuck, somehow thinks that being on psych meds is the same thing as him having been a fucking heroin junkie for well over a decade.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You know what? No, no. I mean, I've dealt with addiction. In my case, it was nicotine. Cigarettes. I kicked cigarettes six years ago. kudos to Flavio, who is one year into kicking them himself. Proud of you, Flavio, if you're out there.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And I'm proud of everyone who's fought the battle against addiction, whatever the substance was. I guess even Whalehead, Dead Bear, Brain Worm, Vosh Bear Lamprey, if in fact he did kick it. At this point in time, I think that's a subject question. It was a meeting of the Maha Institute. Oh, since when? Just where is the Maha Institute built?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Oh, wait, it only exists online in cyberspace. Okay. But, yeah, to compare his experience getting off smack with other members of his family getting off of selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors. Yeah, not the same thing, even remote. I was addicted to heroin for 14 years, and I never wanted to be. Oh, I was... You motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I never wanted to be. What? Did somebody grab your arm, tie the tourniquet on it, hold you down, and then cram that needle with the junk in it into your vein, press the plunger, pull it back, take off the tourniquet, and say, Oh, too bad. No, no, you don't become instantaneously addicted. Of course he wanted it. Fuck you, Bobby! And to think that this turd is in charge of the health and well-being of the people of the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I was addicted to heroin for 14 years, and I never wanted to be. So I was constantly getting off of it and then getting back on. And I went through cold turkey withdrawal probably over a hundred times. This is via USA Today, via big truck. I know what it's like and it's not fun, but... I know what it's like, and it's not fun, but it is limited, it is finite in time. After 72 hours, it's over. You just have to steal yourself for 72 bad hours, but I've watched people...
Starting point is 00:33:15 You dirty bastard. You rotten, slimy piece of goddamn filth at the bottom of a... fucking septic tank. After 72 hours, it's over. You know who would have been a much better statement, a statesman, spokesman for getting off of something like, yeah, Tony Bourdain. He talked about it a lot. And no, it wasn't over after 72 hours,
Starting point is 00:33:45 because that shit does something to your brain, your brain chemistry. and clearly did something to Bobbo the clowns come off of SSR eyes and it is not even comparable we're aligning policy
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah it's not comparable to getting off of heroin because heroin and pharmaceutical psychiatric meds have absolutely not a god damn thing in common how dare you you bastard
Starting point is 00:34:22 suggesting that you want to play with people's ability to stay alive. Oh, you motherfucker. You goddamn piece of garbage. You rotten-ass puddle of vomit on the sidewalk of the world. How dare you? The nerve. See with practice, psychiatric medications have a role in care, but we will no longer treat them as the default. They have never been treated as the default. default. These aren't dispensed like sugar pills. You don't get psych meds like the Maga-Locco women go and get
Starting point is 00:35:17 plastic surgery. I'm really at a loss to make clear how much I genuinely, thoroughly, absolutely, totally, completely, and without hesitation or reservation, despise this pathetic, horrible, disgusting excuse for a member of the human race. Psych meds as a default. Generally speaking, when someone gets a prescription for psychiatric medications, it is because the other alternatives have already been tried. They've been sent to talk therapy. They've been sent to yoga class.
Starting point is 00:36:12 They've stared at their navels until a goddamn lotus is ready to grow out of it. And nothing worked. They've dealt with anxiety. They've dealt with panic. They've dealt with various and sundry ideations. And this goddamn goon wants to further stigmatize that. Oh, fuck you, Bobby. Fuck you forever with a white giant star.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Jeremy says, fuck you, RFK Jr. My sister told my mother many times during her six to seven years clean that her addiction called to her daily, even though she was medically clean with methadone, until it was too much, and ultimately the addiction killed her and her then boyfriend weeks apart. Fuck you and you're 72 hours, you stupid. Stupid motherfucker. 72 hours, my ass. Heroin. How about talking a little bit about the Sackler family?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Bobbo. That gang of monsters. My heart is with you, Jeremy. I know and know of. I have known and know of. Too many people here in this state whom the Sackler family in conjunction with people like the actual governor of the state of West Virginia, Patrick Morrissey, killed, took from us, took from their families.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Again, a monster. And from the Camel Cardinal question, is RFK Jr. invested in supplement companies. While direct personal investments by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and specific supplement companies are not explicitly highlighted in recent reports, his allies and top advisors have significant financial stakes in the well-eastern. wellness and supplement industries. His top health advisor, Callie Means, co-founded TrueMed, a company that helps users spend health savings account funds on supplements. Key details regarding RFK Jr. in the supplement industry include Allied interests. Means's company, TrueMed, specifically enables the purchase of supplements and wellness products through health care savings accounts,
Starting point is 00:39:26 and its partners are often part of the Make America Healthy Again movement supported. by Kennedy. Industry influence supplement makers and alternative health practitioners hope to benefit from Kennedy's influence in the health sector with goals of using HSA funds for and making stronger health claims on their products. Advisor connections. Callie Means and his sister, Dr. Casey Means, a top advisor, are heavily involved in the wellness industry with their companies raising nearly $100 million. dollars. In the words of the great
Starting point is 00:40:01 Nikki Santoro, Joe Pesci, it's about the money. It's always about the fucking money. Oh, and there I was thinking the quote was going to be, they fuck you at the drive-thru, they fuck you at the drive-thru. Treat them as a default.
Starting point is 00:40:17 That's where we were. We will treat them as one option, used when appropriate, with full transparency, and with a clear path off, when they are no longer effective. How do you decide when they're no longer effective? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I don't want to do away with myself anymore. Okay, you can get off them. They're no longer effective. You're all well now. Okay, that's apparently the end of that, because it was nothing but using it afterwards. The idea, and he said it, I happen to be an actual expert on this
Starting point is 00:41:16 because I was addicted to heroin for 14 years. That doesn't make you an expert. That makes you, hopefully, a recovering addict. You fiend? He said, uh, he saw a family member become suicidal after going off SSRIs after being on them for a couple of years. A family member. Huh. I wonder if that's the ex-wife that he howled.
Starting point is 00:42:00 into suicide. See, there's always questions like that with charlatans and grifters like whalehead, dead bear, Vosh, bear, brainworm, lampre... Yeah. 2025. She woke up every morning
Starting point is 00:42:21 and said, I don't want to live. And she said, the only reason I'm staying alive is for you guys. And that's heartbreaking to hear from a family member, and I've heard that from hundreds and hundreds of people, the same story again and again. Well, maybe she shouldn't have gotten off the meds.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Maybe if you hadn't hounded her to get off the meds. Oh, no, no, no, if we're talking about your ex-wife, maybe if you hadn't cheated on her and kept a goddamn diary of your sexual conquests, if you hadn't withheld your required alimony from her, making her live in destitution and beg you for money, if you hadn't gone into divorce court and pled under oath before a judge that you had lost your earning capacity because a worm ate part of your brain, maybe she'd still be alive. Maybe she'd still be an architect.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Maybe she wouldn't have fucking hanged herself, you goddamn fiend. Then, of course, there's a psychiatric nurse practitioner Sean Leonard, who spoke with USA today and said serotonin receptor sites versus the opiate receptor sites is night and day. It's so hard to come off an opiate. Your brain craves it, your body craves it. Serotonin, not so much. There's a withdrawal process with SSRIs, but it's nothing to the extent like opiates. exactly Ralphs with many explanation points RFK Jr. is an addict.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He's still an addict. If he's in recovery, he's in recovery, but he will never, ever, ever, ever, not be an addict. Then the article notes, non-medication treatment methods for depression. For example, can include psychotherapy, such as cognitive behavioral therapy,
Starting point is 00:44:52 art therapy, social support, and lifestyle changes like improved sleep hygiene, exercise, and diet. But when alternative treatments like talk therapy alone aren't working, antidepressants can be life-saving for people struggling with depression, OCD, anxiety, and other mental health conditions, though they should always be monitored closely by a doctor. Let's translate that to the real world.
Starting point is 00:45:17 The real world, you know, a place like, oh, I don't know, Appalachia, where people don't earn enough, and when they have jobs, are too busy working to stay alive for psychotherapy because they don't have any god-dammed insurance or, oh, I don't know, art therapy. What, I drew a pony. No, I'm not making fun. But those are luxuries in places like Appalachia where we've been burned up by addiction. Exercise and diet?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Oh yeah, I'm just going to stop by the gym and get a few miles in on the treadmill before I go to my job at the Rippy Mart. The people who think like that are utterly divorced from reality. And now, and this is the dirty business that's behind all of this filthy fucking propaganda. Oh, wait, there's more. At least I had one cold beer here. Kidding. No, I was just taking a couple of spoonfuls of pure beef tallow because, well, whalehead, dead bear brainworm lamprey says that's good for you too.
Starting point is 00:47:20 No, here's the con. They're going to start training practitioners at 1,400 federally qualified community health centers across the country on how to do medically supervised tapering. So in other words, they're going to experiment on people of fragile constitution in the first place. And like I said, there's a con. The assembled mouth walkers and knuckle-breatzers of the Maha movement. Everyone has before you a pint of raw milk.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Let's toast tapering off. Drink your raw milk. It's good for you. You want some beef tallow? No, they're going to issue billing guidance that pays clinicians for deprescribing work for the first time ever. Yeah, they're going to pay clinicians for taking their patients off medications that they fucking need. People are going to die as a result of what this goon is doing. And, of course, he will be nowhere nearby when it comes time to accept the blame that he deserves for it.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Stephen, New York. Mental health challenges. Depression, check. Anxiety? Check. Panic? Check. Fuck you, you leathery piece of human waste.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Thank you to my SSRIs and other necessary meds. Exactly. And just to be quite candid, because maybe if I talk about it, it helps others. I told you months ago that I've been dealing with something that happens when I get out on the freeway. I thought it had gone away. It has not. It has come back with a vengeance. And so that's part of the whole echocardiogram, nuclear stress test thingy, because when these things hit,
Starting point is 00:50:28 I literally feel like my heart is skipping beats. And it's a horrible sensation. I call it vertigo, but it's probably something that's panic-induced. I'm talking with my therapist about it. But it is impeding my own enjoyment of my life. As you know, there's 130 miles between the woman I love and me, and I travel quite frequently to spend what time I can with her. and this puts a big dent in that.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Two and a half hours of sheer terror between here and there. And the panic and anxiety disorder that kicked up in me, oh, long about the mid-90s to the early aughts, it was devastating. So to just cavalierly say, we're going to give you some vitamins and you need to get some exercise I was exercising my ass off I really was
Starting point is 00:52:06 and my diet wasn't too shabby it didn't make them go away not even a little bit so I understand at least some of what you're talking about Steve in New York and you know how much everybody in this community loves you
Starting point is 00:52:34 and if anybody wants to jump into the conversation on this, I welcome it. I read this story earlier today and was just filled with this abiding sense of horror and rage. And I wonder how others must feel.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Because I always like to check in with the community and see if my senses on this are the same as yours. Something's got the golden one upset. I can hear him and it's nowhere near time for me to come through the door. You know what? He may have heard me raise my voice and that upsets him.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Ramalama ding-dong, says Lee, for all the people who quit smoking, they deserve it. And the same for other addictions. I'm trying to be supportive here. Absolutely, Lee. He's got an awfully good heart, Lee. Let me check a couple of more notes here. Yes, Emilio. In fact, he is. whalehead, dead bear, brainworm, Voschbear, Lamprey is also
Starting point is 00:54:20 Chief National Veal Inspector. I really wanted to order that veal, but the animal rights people would have been all over me if I had found out I did. Well, I think I can tell that story in public now, and it ain't the animal rights factors that are going to get after him. They'll have to take a number. But, yeah, everything appeared to be okay,
Starting point is 00:55:01 blood pressure was good, pulse was good today. I mean, I'm going to schedule a vision check because that feels like it might be part of it or it might be my inner ear. It's just, well, it's annoying and frightening. Okay, Colombian spy. Yeah, Concade, but Jesus never took SSRIs and he endured all of humanity's sins, pharmaceutical shill gin still stealstein can win yeah she can
Starting point is 00:55:45 she can win if she stops going to Cincinnati every time she thinks she's going to Cleveland or something like that and uh to stephen new york from jeremy this is sarcasm what's wrong with you man don't you know that if you mix honey and ginger root and cinnamon into a drink it'll cure everything
Starting point is 00:56:12 uh just as r fk junior agrees it will. Damn it, Jeremy, you juvenile delinquent, you left out the turmeric. Gotta have the turmeric. I have...
Starting point is 00:56:37 Oh, I see. The Camel Cardinals been at it again. Was the date on the live stream crawl written before or after tequila consumption? The brother Deacon does love his serilic. alphabet. They're juvenile
Starting point is 00:57:07 delinquents. I keep trying to tell you. And addictive substances from Daryl in Houston, unfortunately one of the most addictive substances on earth for many is sugar. That's not far behind
Starting point is 00:57:23 I think the largest, I think the biggest most prevalently used addictive substance on earth is caffeine. And that's the second I've kicked two addictions in my life. cigarettes and caffeine. Thank God estrogen is not addictive.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Oh, there we go. There she is. That didn't take long. From Balmer Bob. I'm very sorry to hear about this condition you developed. Would it help if you drove with your four-way blinkers on that way? Faster vehicles would pass you with less outrage and you won't feel pressured to keep up with traffic. Just a thought, hang in there.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I considered that actually, but no, that feels like. capitulation plus an invitation to be pulled over by some member of West Virginia's finest. And given my status, I tried not to interact with law enforcement as much as humanly possible. I mean, we're not talking about that, you know, on these interstates, the speed limit 70, you know, I can usually manage 60. It's not rational because you get just as dead in a crash at 6. 60 is you do at 70. But it's something about vistas and heights. Which is weird, though, because I go up and down the mountain here, and there are, you know, 15,600-foot views into eternity down into the gorge.
Starting point is 00:59:27 That little twisting two-lane road doesn't bother me a lick. I don't know what it is, but thank you for your concern, Bob. I appreciate that. and Daryl says caffeine. I've experienced caffeine withdrawal a couple of times. It lasts three or four days where you think you'd rather be choked or croaked than you're over it. I cannot quit sugar, diabetic or not.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah, we talked about that a little bit with Jeremy the other night. Yeah, it's that, it's that, it's a 10 p.m. p.m. p. Hogan does that gets me every time. And every once in a while, I'll try to do the whole, a dread pirate Roberts Wesley thing where I try to get myself acclimated to caffeine again because, God, I miss good coffee. And so every once in a while I'll get myself an ice cold iced tea and see if that jangles me. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But, yeah, Darrell, I get in trouble when it's in...
Starting point is 01:00:42 Popeyes and McDonald's make the best sweet tea. Woo, it's good. Woo, it's sweet. When I can take time and they've got the necessaries for it, I'll get the unsweet tea and just dump a bunch of Splenda in it. Or NutraSuite, which I'm sure I'll do. That shit causes cancer. I think, yes, I think life causes cancer.
Starting point is 01:01:09 From Matt in San Francisco, Kennedy. as a drug addict alcoholic who takes an SSRI for depression in sobriety, I can say he is a terrible drug addict and he knows nothing about depression. SSRIs don't get you buzzed. They're not addictive. They kind of help you get to base level functioning, but for happiness? For happiness you have to do that work for yourself.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's not the same as sticking a needle in your arm, not even close. Trust me, I'm a big fan of children. checking out, but I can't do that anymore. I used up all my chances. I've proven to myself that I cannot control that compunction. So can't do it again.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Not even once, for old times' sake. Anyway, he's fucking dangerous. You don't put the guy at the end of the bar that talks to himself in charge of anything. I mean, come on, folks. He cuts dicks out from roadkill
Starting point is 01:02:10 when he's not. not strapping it to the roof of his station wagon. And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile. And you may ask yourself, my God, how did I get here? That's for the whole thing, Matt. But working in a little bit of talking heads. See, that proves, you know, you're a pro. you're a pro matt
Starting point is 01:02:44 yeah the R in the stream is backwards raps because it's surrealic because our camel cardinal has a quirky sense of humor but at least you're noticing which is what he
Starting point is 01:03:09 well it's the attention that he craves and I'm going to the phones in a minute but yeah Micah says you can pull my cathay from my cold dead hands. I don't know what the other word is. But, yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I mean, you're a computer nerd girl. I'm surprised you don't just have it on an intravenous drip. Oh, well, don't give up, need you. Sorry, I missed you. There was someone on hold. And let's go to the stress line and find out. Hey, welcome to the program. Am I really welcome?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Am I? I'll make this quick since I called in once last week. Yeah, fine. Until you watched your own sister fall into addiction, see how it changes their life, not their life, but the person out of everything completely, as someone may work. My sister was generally maybe too kind
Starting point is 01:04:34 and was going to people, you know, thinking they're nice or her back person. which is a really bad combination with drugs. She played with pills a little bit too much, which became a heroin addiction, because it was much cheaper in the end. For six years, six, seven years, she was queen. And then it took a dirty turn
Starting point is 01:05:00 because she met a dirt bag fresh out of prison. And I don't wish him dead, but you convinced her they don't need methadone. they could do it on their own, they can control it. They don't meet it. And she started using again of methadone. And soon after that, she moved to Florida with my youngest niece who now was with my mother.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And the last time the police checked in on my sister and came at the time, they pulled my niece for safety because in the bottom of their car, which they were living in, there was a mix of 300 years. and loaded syringes on the floor of the car. Ultimately, the sedition did take my sister, and it took him within weeks. I think, honestly, my sister's last attempt at a lifeline was she asked my adoptive mom
Starting point is 01:06:00 to get in touch with our birth mom. My sister had a real problem with the adoptive. I never did. I can give a fuck about those people other than to say thank you, because I think if the tables were flipped, and we still didn't have a real problem with the adopt, and we still lived with them, I probably could be a dead mom. I honestly believe that, dead or in jail. I really do.
Starting point is 01:06:19 But anyway, she had my mom reach out to her a birth mother, and my birth mother hung up on my mom when she said, your daughter is looking for you. And at that point, I think my sister gave up a hope and stopped fighting. I think this sort of really made the turn in her life, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:06:35 But, like I said, my email, my sister's countlessly told my mom even when she was clean on methadone, which at the time, that was a bastard. I didn't know how addiction works. I know about caffeine and stuff like that, but I've never been on,
Starting point is 01:06:49 I never played with Grozer and alcohol. I didn't understand what it does, and I probably wasn't prolactive in her recovery, and I told her, you're not really clean here on methadone. I was a fucking moron. I admit, and I feel guilty to that to this day.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But she used to tell my mom all the time, called to her daily. She could hear it, saying her name. Just one. come over here do that and resist and resist and resist. And after going through all this, it changed my outlook on addiction and on a wide range of different things for people that I know around me.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I no longer see it as a choice once they fall into. I really see it as a disease, no different than diabetes, cancer, something like that. They cannot control it. It becomes a disease of the mind. They cannot control it without real help. sometimes psychiatric drugs help and sometimes with methadone
Starting point is 01:07:42 but I mean I just you know it's just like you know with foods there are some people who can just oh well yes I'm going to have a martini before dinner and then that's the end of it but you know there are other people
Starting point is 01:07:57 for whom you know one's too many and a thousand aren't enough it at the same time I'm fortunate no you I'm fortunate there's people in our myths, which I consider educated or above board because they listen to some of those things stuff we do. But I kid you not, you weren't present one night, and I'm not going to
Starting point is 01:08:20 say names because they don't listen anymore. But I had someone on the back porch one night tell me when there was a diabetic, then you do my research. Doctors are lying to me. What's causing my type 1 diabetes is a mold or fungus in my gut. And if I take cinnamon with something else, I can cure that fungus. Oh, for fuck, say. I kid you, and I bit my tongue, and I was real polite. I said, okay, I'll do what you ask. But when they got off, I unloaded, because it was just enough to send me up the fucking
Starting point is 01:08:51 wall. I said, looking the shit like that will get you killed. You know, I'm, I'm, you can tell me off air. I'm just, I've got a couple of likely suspects that I'm thinking of, and I'm just curious to see which one it was. I'll send you an email off air, but you're probably, not too far off. But it was very conspiratorial, and I just like I said, that kind of shit will get you killed. Well, look, I mean, I've made sport of it for years, but, you know, whenever talking about
Starting point is 01:09:20 the current ambassador to Israel, pastor, brother, minister, former governor, former presidential candidate, Mike Huxterby, he was literally out there hustling a bullshit diabetes cure that was comprised of fucking cinnamon. Mm-hmm. Doesn't shock me at all. But since I know Naudia's trying to call in, all I wanted to say was just, you know, put that thing down about my sister so people
Starting point is 01:09:51 can hear my own words. And my mind has changed completely. I have other friends of my life who are in the throes of addiction or recovery, and they say they're recovering, and they never say I'm not in attic again. Just like I could never say if I gave up caffeine for real, which, like Micah, you could write it for my cold dead
Starting point is 01:10:08 hands. It'll never happen to kill me first. I swear well. But I've never seen it the same. I feel for people, I understand that it's out of their control. Once you look like something too much, you get that of your hand. Anything, we all have addictive personnel. You just find the wrong thing to play with a little bit too much, and you'll fall into its grips, and it's hard to break it. But anyway, hopefully not anything call in. I'll let you go, and I'll talk to Friday night, problem. Okay, you take care, Jeremy. Hey, seriously, my friend, my friend, thanks for sharing. Thank you. Yeah, and I'll send you that name for just S&D.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah, just e-mail it to me. I'm just eating up with curiosity because, like I said, I got two or three. Okay. Well, I'm not going to say it on the air, but thank you. Thank you, thank you, Brother Deacon, Aza, for letting me know. He jumped in with the answer before Jeremy could provide it to me. Okay, maybe that's Nedia. Hey, welcome to the program.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Hey. Hey, Robin. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Good. It's been a long time, although I see you practicing your Spanish. So that's good to see.
Starting point is 01:11:32 German, in my case. German in my case, yes. Oh, it's German. Well, I'm doing the Spanish. But anyway. Yeah, we're Palisle-Duo lingo. Here we are. Thank you for the street crease somewhere along the way.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I hope people know what we're talking. talking about and of course unpaid product placement as you like to say but it's good to talk with you in the community so um i just want to share a couple things and i'm not professing to be the great expert but i do have some experience with the subject matter of tonight i'd say yeah to to to say you have some experience you are selling yourself short i mean everybody knows you you're working you work behavioral health? Well, I have for years, but I've retired now. So I don't want to overstate my credentials. We won't get into that. But listen, a couple things just to add food for thought. First is that treatment, I think most people just logically would agree with this,
Starting point is 01:12:39 should be individualized according to the person's needs. So what might work for you as far as medication may not work for someone else. and you have to have some flexibility to work with the patient, the consumer, on what their preferences are and what is most efficacious for them and their lifestyle. So just please keep that in mind. For some people, the medications you're talking about tonight are not appropriate. But before I go there, the other thing I want to say is psychiatry has changed enormously over the years, some good changes, some not so good.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And some of the not so good are that psychiatrists spend usually very little time with their patients. They will palm them off, for lack of a better term, to someone else on the staff, a therapist, a counselor, whoever, for any kind of talk therapy, mainly what the psychiatrist is doing is just prescribing medication. How you do and how you feel and is it working for you? And so in the older days, despite all the horrors of psychiatry, because they're horrors too.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And everybody knows that, like lobotomies. And by the way, those still happen. Well, they don't still happen, but shock does. And people are often surprised to hear that. And I won't go down that road right now. So keep in mind that often the quick thing for a doctor to do, is here's your medication. And sometimes we do not adequately go over with the patient what the side effects are.
Starting point is 01:14:24 And I don't care if you're trying on psychotropic medication or medication for any condition you may have physically, there are side effects to consider. So I want to throw out a few before everybody makes it sound like, oh, psychotropic medications are the greatest things in slice bread. Not so. Well, why? Yes, for some people, they're indicated and appropriate and provide great relief. No question. But it's also true that for a great number of people, and this is an important life style thing, it causes erectile dysfunction. I don't know how many patients are advised with that. And yeah, that can really affect your home life. They can cause poor sleep. They can increase things. anxiety, cause dry mouth, weight gains. And I know you all remember in the old days there used to be these ads for some of those drugs. And they would say that for somebody under age 21, it increases risk of suicide.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Okay? So I'm giving you the counter argument here. It is not all, oh, psychotropic drugs are great. And how dare Kennedy do this? And I, you know, I have no love for the Trump administration. there's no question. These people are blood, thirsty, fascists, horrible people. I don't trust a damn thing they say.
Starting point is 01:15:52 However, I want to add balance to the conversation. Anti-anxiety medications have problems, too. There's a well-known fact of benzodiazepines, which are usually described for anxiety, are for short-term use because the increased tolerance and, yes, addiction that they can cause. Yeah, you're talking, you said benzodiazepines for the non-professionals out there. Anx. So you're for anxiety.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Yeah, Xanax. Yes, right. So none of these things are like, you know, they're the answer. Now, conversely, just want to say that the approach to addiction, because we're mixing apples and oranges, It's one thing when you're treating anxiety and depression. I know people can have co-occurring disorders, and that might relate to their, you know, addiction and all of that. But just for the sake of argument, and so I don't belabor this, the treatments for addiction vary as well. So whether a person is going for medication-assisted treatment, we call it mat, whether that's Suboxone or Methadone or some of the new now they have injections, that's appropriate for.
Starting point is 01:17:12 some people, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But for some people, they say the preferences to go more the direction of AA, and they swear by it. The bottom line in all this is
Starting point is 01:17:28 it's highly individual. So I want to be careful. We don't make it sound like, oh, psychotropic drugs are the answer and it doesn't matter if you go for a walk and guess what? Walking does increase endorphins in the brain.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Now, I'm not trying to trivialize that and saying somebody who's in the close of great depression going for a walk every day is going to solve that. I'm not saying that. But could it be part of a treatment plan that includes other things that includes support, maybe from people in the community, people and the family if they have good relationship? and yes, medication may be a part of that. But the final thing I want to share is the one thing of what you were reading, and I haven't seen this document, when he talked about medically supervised tapering off these drugs, absolutely that's important because you can have terrible side effects.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I've had clients tell me coming off some of the psychotropic meds day long. It sounded like firecrackers were. going off in their brains. So that is, I don't think too many people are going to dispute. You have to be really careful with this stuff. I agree.
Starting point is 01:18:50 So I know we haven't talked in quite a while, you know, but I know you're highly incensed and I understand that. We have to be careful that we are not now, you know, the pendulum swings back and forth
Starting point is 01:19:05 and now we're going to go too far the other way and take everybody off all these medications and tell them to go take a walk. It would be idiotic. But having said that, it is also true. The pharmaceutical companies that promote these drugs, you know, they have been a big part of the problem, too, and not adequately warning people about some of the issues and the importance of being very careful with them. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 01:19:33 It absolutely does. And, you know, just in defense of what I said, you know, I think it was beyond irresponsible for Bobby Kennedy to compare heroin and SSRIs. Well, that's a ridiculous thing right from the get-go. I mean, scientifically, I think somebody else wrote into you today and said, you know, the opiate receptors in the brain are totally different from what we're talking about with SSRI. It's apples and oranges. It's idiotic.
Starting point is 01:20:08 But that's his reference point, because that's all he knows. Yeah, and maybe as a result he should not be in that role. I think we all know that. I mean, if you take, you know, this is just another example, Nedia, of why he should not be in this position. You know, the jihad that he went on against the, has gone on against the LGBTQ. community, particularly the T portion of the LGBT community, is irresponsible. You raised a very
Starting point is 01:20:45 important point to, it is irresponsible and you raised a really important point about the stigma issue, which is real, and this will probably exacerbate it, who knows, and it could well end up being a route for limiting health care coverage for some of the
Starting point is 01:21:06 treatments. That may be. what's really behind us. I don't think any of this comes out of the goodness of their heart. No, it doesn't. And I certainly don't think a lot of... Yeah, just to point out, as Brother Deacon Aceh pointed out a little bit ago, and, you know, I knew this back before, I mean, I knew this back when he was an, hem, environmentalist, ah, hem, you know, he was in it for the grift.
Starting point is 01:21:32 He was looking all over the Coal River Valley, and I'm sure you're somewhat at least familiar with that area. There's a lot of disease. Well, you know I am. You know I am. And he was, he was, he was plaintiff hunting. He was trying to find the perfect plaintiff with which to sue a coal company. And that was the, that was the entire extent of his interest in what, you know, the New York Times once called Appalachas agony.
Starting point is 01:22:00 And that was, of course, before the opioid crisis, but, you know, double agony. He was, he was plaintiff. shopping for someone he could use to sue coal companies and, you know, preferably with deep pockets. He didn't find it. He dried up. Well, again, there may be some, there may be some other motive behind this that is not readily apparent that has to do with exactly what you're talking about. Well, it's the supplement.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Some other way to cut coverage to people. He always mentions, you know, well, like with regard to, measles. In a hearing a couple of weeks ago, somebody pointed out that ever since he came out and said that vitamin A could replace the measles vaccine, kids have been showing up with vitamin A overdoses in emergency rooms. The people around him are all just up to their eyebrows in supplement companies. and, you know, some, I'm not downplaying the value of supplements,
Starting point is 01:23:09 but every time you buy a nutritional supplement, it says, this supplement has not been proven to do a goddamn thing. And it is not, and no representations are made as to the efficacy. And they're not well regulated. They're not well regulated. So I'm going to, I'd love to hear comments from other people, especially based on their own experiences, but I'm sure you've met a lot of people
Starting point is 01:23:37 who cannot tolerate some of these medications, and we need to be really careful about that. Likewise, there's some people for whom, because I was, you know, basically a cognitive therapist, and for whom talk therapy was not going to be adequate. And I get back to my original point is, we need to have an array of options for people based on their preferences and their needs,
Starting point is 01:24:00 and that shouldn't discount anything that is within, you know, there's evidence for it, and it's humane treatment. And I say, I want to emphasize that word humane, because so often, you know, people see these practitioners for 15 minutes, and you're out the door and expecting that people are going to improve. And I have experience, I mean, I know exactly what you're talking about. The patient goes through the door. They're back out, they're back out the door 10 minutes later with a, with a new script and not you know and you know there's not a lot in 10 to 15 minutes there's not a lot of there's not a lot of therapy going not a lot of psychoanalysis going on in there in 15 minutes yeah absolutely absolutely well I thank you I don't want to dominate your program but it's so good to hear
Starting point is 01:24:50 your voice been too long oh it's lovely it's always lovely talking to you and and hopefully thank you robin hopefully some folks will jump in needy it you take care of yourself I hope you're enjoying retirement. And don't be a stranger. Well, actually, I want to talk to you offline some time. I'm getting all involved in the dirty walking issue in West Virginia, but I'll talk to you about that later. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Okay, that's great. You take care, Nydia. All right. All right. All right. And that's Nidia. It's lovely to hear, just lovely to hear from her. Look, I mean, full disclosure here.
Starting point is 01:25:26 because of this thing that I was talking about with whatever it is, anxiety, vertigo, I don't know. A few months ago, I tried a 30-day trial on a teeny tiny, itsy-bitsy, little bitty dose of what was described to me as a really, really mild SSRI. And I got about three weeks into that, and I said, oh, I'm not going to take this anymore. because I was thinking thoughts that your humble Ostice simply does not think. And as soon as I got away from it, and it's all anecdotal, but I have a, had a first cousin, whom I loved, and he wanted to quit smoking very badly, and he got on the, what's the brand name, Chantix? one night, one morning actually, he was, he'd quit
Starting point is 01:26:28 smoking and he was still taking that stuff and he walked out into the front yard and blew his brains out. And it's a known side effect of the drug. So I get, I get that there are issues, but you have to
Starting point is 01:26:48 actually have some functioning knowledge of the nature and character of somebody like whalehead dead bear, wash bear, brain, Lamprey to fully understand why no one, no one, no one should trust him on any topic whatsoever. And of course, there's the New York Times. I wanted to make sure I mentioned this when I looked up the story.
Starting point is 01:27:15 There's the New York Times headline. Kennedy starts a push to help Americans quit antidepressants. The New York Times. No, no, that's not what he did, old gray lady. he engaged in an entirely irresponsible screed against them. For instance, another article I saw said that a 2024 study in health affairs found that the wording and media amplification of a safety warning about antidepressants from the Food and Drug Administration in 2003 may have led to thousands of deaths. The warning was intended to increase monitoring of suicidal thoughts, but instead of, was linked to unintended reductions in physician visits for depression, depression diagnoses,
Starting point is 01:28:20 antidepressant treatment and use, and psychotherapy visits, as well as increases in psychotropic drug poisonings, and increased suicide deaths. And again, like Nedia pointed out, apples and oranges, but this is at the same time that Nittwit Nero held a to-do in the Oval Office or somewhere, where he said, oh, and, you know, this was what? At the, the urging of Pink Shrek? Yeah, he's taking medication advice from Pink Shrek. Joe Rogaine. And, no, we're definitely going to legal...
Starting point is 01:28:56 We're going to legalize... We're going to legalize psychotropic medication so, you know, people can, like, you know, legally eat their mushrooms or, you know, their peyote, or, you know, eat... Morning Glory seeds or smoke banana peyed. and that makes me sound like a fuddy-duddy. I am not, but they just do things based on what those things,
Starting point is 01:29:29 what they perceive doing those things will do for them, not for anyone else. From that in San Francisco, Valium, my favorite color, agree totally that mental health care and treatment must be individualized. Nothing is right for everybody. I went through two or three before one actually worked for me. and that's the cases I have understood it with a number of people it's terrifying when you get to call you know so-and-so did such and such
Starting point is 01:29:59 I mentioned apples and oranges there's the Colombian spy eating apples and oranges is the real medicine you have a piece of fruit sure but on the other hand if you're on a statin no grapefruit for you see yeah and thanks
Starting point is 01:30:24 I wondered if that was who it was Camel Cardinal and Jeremy that's what I thought and by the way from Billable Rick please thank Matt and San Francisco for inspiring me
Starting point is 01:30:39 I'll be singing once in a lifetime for karaoke tonight that'll be a blast one of these days you gotta get somebody to video that Billable video or it didn't happen. That's a challenge in case you're wondering. And let's see, a couple of emails.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Cynthia, hey, coffee's good for you. The nectar of the gods. Okay, well, it does stain your teeth, but gosh, it gets my morning going. Am I addicted? I don't know, but if I am, so be it. I'd take my coffee on intravenous drip, except I want to taste it. And the first of the new kitchen cabinets are being installed. today. Progress.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Okay. There's a question for you, sis. Your kitchen's a total disaster. Where did you put the coffee maker? Ah, yeah, see? Or wait, wait, are you so boozy that you go out and have it made for you?
Starting point is 01:31:47 I kid, I kid. I actually stopped. Okay, so most people know Wawa. the western Pennsylvania answer to Wawa is sheets, and they've made their way down here. I think maybe a few over into Ohio, and I popped into sheets on what, Saturday evening, and I just wanted a cup of decaf, but I have my one hang up because, okay, I'm just being candid here. 99.9% of decaf tastes like crap. You really got to look around to find something that doesn't.
Starting point is 01:32:31 And after years of study, I consider myself an expert in the matter. Just for general purpose utility decaf, and it's so corporate, I hate to say this, McDonald's, McDonald's decaf is entirely reliable. But in my case, and Lord knows I don't need it, but in my case, I have to have half and half. Not milk, not 2%, not almond, oat, cashew, or wheatgrass milk. Milk, half and half, half cream, half milk. Because that makes the decaf tastes like coffee. So I stopped at Sheets on Saturday evening. I thought, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:33:18 Because sheets will do anything to get you in the door. Because volume is where their business model is. So they go to great lengths to have good coffee. and they've got a little gizmo there that it's got a touch screen and it's got a grinder and you tell it how much and you tell it leave room for cream and I told it to leave room for cream and I can hit the decap button, you know, it ground the beans. And it produces a lovely, lovely cup of coffee with a nice crema top. And then I walked over to the half and half dispenser and I lifted the little, the little doohickey that makes the half and half come out, and no half and half came out. And so I walked over to the counter, and I looked at the clerk, and I said,
Starting point is 01:34:09 pardon me, but you're out of half and half. Oh, yes, ma'am, absolutely. Thank you for letting me know, ma'am. You know, they're really nice at sheets. And so he goes over, he checks it to make sure that I'm not insane. There wasn't even a container of half and half inside the dispenser. and so he went in the back and came back a few minutes later and says we don't have any half and half I'm like ah because at that point in time I'd already paid for the coffee and my choices were French vanilla
Starting point is 01:34:40 something certainly no milk in that or 2% which to me is might as well be water and now I chose the 2% It did not taste great. Because even if you're decapinated, you want at least the simulation of enjoying a decent cup of coffee. There's a place in Parkersburg called Hall's Chocolates. Oh dear. It's double chocolate dipped strawberry season. Oh, my goodness. But I was in there, and they've got...
Starting point is 01:35:26 didn't have any brewed up, otherwise I would have gotten a cup. They've got a Highland Grog decaf. And, oh, did it smell good? Your humble hostess. But they also are very, very fond of it, and it is priced accordingly. Brother Deacon. Oh, brother Deacon. Why do they call it Sheets?
Starting point is 01:35:55 Was the chain founded by the exalted Grand Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan? Also, IKEA has surprisingly good coffee. Oh, yeah, well, rub it in. You live in civilization, and you've got an IKEA. I've got to drive all the way to Pittsburgh to buy furniture that there's no way I'll ever be able to put together. I've heard their little snack bar at IKEA is really good. I was surprised at the quality of the, because, and of course they were copying Costco on this. At Sam's Club now, you can get a beverage and a quarter-pound hot dog for a,
Starting point is 01:36:29 buck and a half, which ain't shabby. And I tried one of those, and it was Nami. Loop me a good hot dog, and this was a dandy. And their condiments bar was well stocked. They had not only the usual ketchup and mustard, there was some mayo, but they also had relish and sourcrow. And so, yeah, that's me. I'm the, and some hot sauce. So it was hot sauce, sourcrow, mustard.
Starting point is 01:36:57 A damn fine hot dog. Yeah. but no, just to answer the question, because I know you're playing. S-H-E-E-T-Z, and that's actually the name of the family that runs the company. I don't know if they're a good company or not, but they start their workers at about $14 an hour, and you can, if you're a manager on the midnight shift, I think you can get like $20 an hour. So there's that. I knew it would be something like that.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Cynthia says my coffee maker is on the master bath counter. And no, I only go to coffee shops to drink socially with friends. Otherwise, I brew my own at home. And no, I am not really a connoisseur. I will drink about anything with caffeine in it. Well, almost anything. I've had coffee at one diner that wasn't even remotely drinkable. It was like they mixed used motor oil in it.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Yuck. Oh, that's melted brown crayon coffee in hot water. which is what most decaf tastes like. So you've at least had the experience. Years and years and years ago, Chris in Germany, gifted Annette with a espresso mini machine. And, wow, the little capsules are brutally expensive, but very, very good coffee.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Really good. The decaf, too. It's nice. from Matt in San Francisco. I have to have half and half. Oh, you're that bitch, noted. Yes, I am. What? No half and half?
Starting point is 01:38:55 I refer to that non-dairy stuff as arterial glue. You can tell things like that are on my mind. There's an echocardiogram today. You're that bitch. There are just some things in life. Yeah, Cynthia said, oh, and while I often find Costco's Kirkland brand pretty good on most things, their French roast is also on my avoid list, not a fan. Ooh, all burned up?
Starting point is 01:39:26 Mm-hmm. So many things in Kirkland are good, though. I forget, I don't know if I ever knew who makes it, but, oh, my heavenly days, they're tequila's. The Kirkland brand tequila, wowsers. Mm-hmm. and let's see A couple of
Starting point is 01:40:00 Where it go There it is Okay Note coming in Earlier from Carl Ah Look a news subject
Starting point is 01:40:12 Iran Greetings Roxanne Greetings Carl The Iran war has been living rent free In my head of late And leading me down All kinds of paths of darkness We have won nothing
Starting point is 01:40:22 That's true We've only proven ourselves to be weak and without any sort of plan. Nitwit Niro, credit to you. Whiskey Pete, the FBI drunk, ICE, and the rest of this evil administration need to be stopped or removed legally and peacefully, of course.
Starting point is 01:40:39 The Strait of Hormuz was already opened before our rapist in chief and Whiskey Pete supposedly invaded Iran. Hey, careful there, Carl, you could get sued by Psycho Beebe for not giving him credit in this. They're already, now it is closed,
Starting point is 01:40:57 and gas prices along with everything else have gone up significantly. There already was a deal with Iran codified in 2015. Our side had nuclear scientists, seasoned foreign relations experts, scholars, and journalists who studied and lived in Iran, spoke the language, and had the Obama administration.
Starting point is 01:41:15 We got Iran to agree not to pursue a nuclear weapon and allow inspectors into the country. In fact, the Ayatollah at that time had declared a fatwa against nuclear weapons, saying they go against the teachings of Islam. But, Dummy Trump, because he hated Obama, lied about it and tore it up.
Starting point is 01:41:32 How do we expect Iran to believe the U.S. will honor its agreements? They don't. Neither does the rest of the world. Our trustworthiness is shot. Along with our honor, such as it was. Yeah. Any decency that was ascribed to us right down the Trump toilet. Now, under the stupid leadership of Donald Trump, we have Jared Kushner, a Nepo baby, who married Trump's daughter, Steve Whitkoff, a billionaire realtor, and J.D. Vance, an incompetent and arrogant fool who knows absolutely nothing about the religion who's only interested in furthering his own aspirations.
Starting point is 01:42:06 According to Dumbo himself, we obliterated Iran's nuclear capability. Yeah, you heard that in the clip of him talking to the 10-year-olds. Now we're supposed to believe America needs to bomb the shit out of them because they've been thinking about nuclear weapons, completely ludicrous. But the Fox News morons eat it up. In other words, we're... fucked. After this attack, Iran would be justified in trying to protect itself. We certainly won't protect them. Just ask the Saudis and Europeans. Well, there's that. There's absolutely that, Carl. And what else is it proven? Well, we haven't done that to North Korea. We haven't done that to Pakistan. We haven't done that to any country that has nuclear weapons. The only way to keep the United States from sneak attacking you or attacking you generally is if you have a nuclear weapon. that might reach something American. That's the lesson. What a lesson it is. Why, I started drinking coffee.
Starting point is 01:43:15 At work, I was coding at the computer terminal. I was typing and typing and typing and typing. Then someone spoke to me. I turned to look at them, and my vision blurred. I realized I had to get away from the monitor. Coffee was one of the few options. Signed, Lee, not a connoisseur, or a commensure, for that matter. Yeah, that used to be the argument for smoking.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Well, at least it'll get me out of the office every now and then and stand outside in the freezing cold or the blazing heat and suck on a cancer stick. And let's see, Miss Micah has sent me a few messages. And by the way, Cynthia, those cabinets are so pretty. Ooh, that corner cabinet's going to be awesome. And the lazy Susan's. And, oh, Micah, you naughty girl.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Where did you get the sticker? I'll invite earlier, yeah, you can pull my caffeine and estrogen from my cold dead hands. There we go. And Captain Janeway, there's coffee in that nebula. And, you know, it's played such a role in world history. Lloyd's of London wasn't created in a tea house. You go, let's have a sparse of tea and gamble on shipping. No!
Starting point is 01:45:14 It was a bunch of English dudes jacked out of their mind on cheap Java just humming like a struck 440A tuning fork I say let's have another cup of coffee this is capital coffee
Starting point is 01:45:37 Hey there's a ship in the harbor and it's leaving Who here thinks it'll make it back with anyone alive? I all talk that, that governor and the insurance industry was born by caffeine junkies. Tadda. Yeah. And let's see. Yesterday we were talking about how the Secret Service shut down the White House
Starting point is 01:46:20 and hustled the members of the press corps into the White House briefing room and locked them in yesterday because somebody got, Well, cops or Secret Service or something, you know, shot someone way the hell away down by the Washington Monument. Things are going sideways. And I'm sorry, this is kind of where my brain is. But it feels like this maladministration is trying to ramp up the allegations of threats against nitwit Nero. to build what, some sort of sympathy for him? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:05 But the entirely corrupt Department of Justice issued a press release today saying that an FAA employee, Dean Del Shiai, 35 years old, has been charged for with interstate communication of a threat to unalive
Starting point is 01:47:32 nitwit narrow in their press release today they said hardworking agents of the Department of Justice conducted various internet searches on his government
Starting point is 01:47:45 work computer in late January like how to get a gun into a federal facility like like I love it when press releases say things like like how to get a gun into a federal facility.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I've got to read that in a better voice. Like, the DOJ conducted various internet searches on its government work computer in late January. Like how to get a gun into a federal facility? Previous assassination attempts against the president. The percentage of the population that wants the president died? I also search for the phrase, I'm going to kill Donald John Trump. this according to an actual press release from the Department of Justice.
Starting point is 01:48:36 They finally got around to saying what Mr. Delisciai was accused of an email. Let's see if this sounds like something a human being would write, or did it come from an AI? I, Dean Delishiei am going to neutralize kill you, Donald John Trump,
Starting point is 01:48:59 because you decided to kill kids and say that it was war when in reality it is terrorism. God knows your actions and where you belong. Well, he's facing up to five years in the joint and a quarter of a million dollar fine, which I'm sure will be paid directly to nitwit Niro. He was arrested in Nashua, New Hampshire, by the Nashua Police Department, not by the hardworking agents of the FBI. in peace and war
Starting point is 01:49:35 starring Ephraim Zimbalis Jr. They were assisted by the Secret Service. Where was Trash Patel's FBI? Oh, they were counting seashells on the beach. That's where the hell they were. Jesus is stupidity. Maybe don't do things like that or don't ask AIs to do things like that.
Starting point is 01:50:06 But I said I wonder if this is manufactured because, well, that's not the only story we have along those lines. Up in Pennsylvania, there's a guy who filed to run for U.S. Senate as a Democrat. His name is Raymond Eugene Chandler III. Raymond Chandler? The big sleep? Farewell, my lovely?
Starting point is 01:50:42 The long goodbye? The lady in the lake? No, not that Raymond Chandler. but yeah he's uh facing federal charges now he was primarying uh kirsten mansion you know john fetterman Chandler was arrested on May the 1st according to the
Starting point is 01:51:08 Pittsburgh Post Gazette uh the FBI arrest affidavit take this for what it's worth given it's this FBI He left threats for more than a year on the voicemail of an unnamed senator, who later turned out to be Kirsten Manchin. And according to the affidavit, the threats were directed at the senator as well as the immediate family of a United States official.
Starting point is 01:51:48 And Trump! Got to add the, and Trump in there. just for good measure. He started sending voicemail threats in April of 2025. Wait a minute. This is, that's a year ago? That's a year ago, and the hardworking members of the United States Department of Justice
Starting point is 01:52:09 just got around to noticing it? Yeah, this is, this is a propaganda. This is an attempt to shore up the Comey indictment, as crazy as, that might sound. That's exactly what it is. They say that they allege that Chandler said in a voicemail that he had bought a 7-inch combat knife and dagger. Is that one in the same, or is that two different pieces? And he was ready to personally kill ice goons and said,
Starting point is 01:52:56 I'll build gallows to hang U. And the U was apparently Senator Kirsten Mansion. Then in January of 2026, he said he would organize armed resistance against the ice goons and those who deserve death, including Nittwit Nero. And then in February 2026, he launched his primary campaign against Kirsten Mansion. And then in mid-April, he left a voicemail for Kirsten Manchin, saying, imagine thousands of people surrounding your house and the houses of 1,200 billionaires. On command, they would slit your throat
Starting point is 01:53:47 and slit your daughter's throat. Really? I mean, I don't think it's a crime. The part about the surrounding the house and the house of 1,200 billionaires. I don't think that's illegal. and then according to the affidavit he allegedly told the unnamed
Starting point is 01:54:23 the unnamed, does that mean does that mean Kirsten Mansion has to walk around with a brown paper bag over his head as the unknown senator? I'm calling this evening because what I want you to do is I want you to take a firearm. I want you to put it in your hand. I want you to walk into the Oval Office. I want you to put that firearm to the president's head
Starting point is 01:54:44 and I want you to pull the trigger. wait, that's not him threatening to kill Trump. That's him imploring Kirsten Mansion to do that. And that was the last voicemail before he got arrested on May 1st. In that voicemail, he says that nitwit Nero is a liar among all liars. He's a great deceiver. He's the Antichrist. The FBI, or the OJ alleges he said,
Starting point is 01:55:15 I want you to kill the president. I want you to assassinate the president. That's what I want you to do. Well, Senator, are you going to come after me? Are you going to try me because of my voice and what I said? Perfect timing, huh, y'all, right? I disagree with the whole slit-your-throat thing, but that sounds like a bit of a legal problem
Starting point is 01:55:46 when it comes to proving that he wanted to threaten to kill Nitwit Niro. No. He told John Fetterman to kill Nittwit Nero. Well, you know how it is with pettifogers. there's a lot of parson of words goes on in that profession i want you to assassinate the president he said it's anything about doing it himself but they've got to create this idea
Starting point is 01:56:17 that because of his greatness and making america great again he's under threat bullshit if he's under threat it's because he's ruining countless american lives we'll get to that maybe in a minute let's go over to the stress line hey welcome to the program Roxanne where do I begin
Starting point is 01:56:59 media was absolutely correct I've been around psychotropes and all that stuff for decades now because of Christine and I've been on them myself the thing I would say that disturbed me the most while Bobby was having drinks in the Oval,
Starting point is 01:57:26 while he was stirring his scotch with his raccoon swizzledick. Yeah, I was waiting to see which word you'd choose. Swizzledick. Wait a minute. Yeah, you get that's yours. Yours to keep. I don't know. I mean, you're talking about a man who is an addict.
Starting point is 01:57:57 I know because I'm one. And, you know, I hope he continues toward the path of sobriety someday while he's still alive. but the stigma of mental illness in this country is barbaric there are legal consequences if you say to somebody I'm thinking about killing such and such such well if you say that to a therapist they have a duty to warn I know this because it happened to me.
Starting point is 01:58:49 I gave them my mother's son number. I was not wanting to kill her, but those were the thoughts I was having. And that became, that almost became a legal issue for me because, you know, well, you're making threat. No, I'm saying there's something not right here. and there needs to be an understanding that if somebody in that situation goes for help, that doesn't make them a criminal, that makes them responsible for, you know, their own safety and the safety of others. That should be encouraged because that's the big neon sign that says, I need help.
Starting point is 01:59:45 And unfortunately in this country, we stigmatized it. Oh, you just need to eat the right foods and pray a lot. Well, you know, I'm not besmirching good food. Hell, I'm not even besmirching prayer. It helps some people, some people like me. it's not something that I consider readily available. But it does need, those treatments need to be individualized. I know that when Christine was on medications, and sometimes they were very heavy medications,
Starting point is 02:00:38 she would eat like a horse. She got up to 350 pounds at one point. and the doctors told her she needed to swim down or begin considering injecting herself with insulin. So she had a heart-to-heart with her psychiatrist. And this 15-minute rotissory appointment that most people get because insurance can't be bothered to actually make sure the treatment is done. properly, just as quick and cheaply as possible. But what I found most disturbing was Bobby was trying to pass himself off as some sort of a goddamn expert.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And he always, he always does that. No, I understand, Dave, sorry to interrupt, but he always does that. When he was running his hustle down in the Coal River Valley, He tried to pass himself off as an environmental expert who knew everything about how we would achieve a green energy future. And along the way, he said, oh, and frack gas, that will be your bridge fuel to the green energy clean fuel future. And, of course, this was at the same time that Carl Pope had accepted $50 million from the fracking industry. industry to promote, wait for it, frack gas as a bridge fuel to a clean energy future. Well, I do agree with him on one thing.
Starting point is 02:02:43 We are all experts, ex-meaning former and spurts being grips under pressure. Yes. You know, some of us don't stop being grits afterwards. Precisely. it's like it's biologically accurate the first organ and the human body to develop is the anal slinger some of them start out as well we all start out as asshole just some of us stay there the best of all eyes yeah it's like it's just like the old joke you know they say that you can't get pregnant from anal sex but then how do you explain bobby kennedy junior don't try to explain bobby i really don't
Starting point is 02:03:38 But interestingly enough, when I was a kid living in Texas, my parents went up to Dallas with us kids. And I didn't know anything about the assassination of President Kennedy other than that. And it happened in Dallas. I didn't know where. But I remember passing the Texas School Book Depository and thinking, that's where my school books come from. I was eight years old. I was correct.
Starting point is 02:04:16 That is where my textbooks came from, but I didn't know the historical significance of the building until later that day. As far as the girls in the Oval Office during the President's Physical, fitness thing. First off, Johnny, at the best of times, it's not a good, it's not a good
Starting point is 02:04:59 representative of good physical health. To say the least, yes. Did he invite, did he invite them all out for Taco bowls for Woffers? Well, okay, so I ran the audio, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:15 Aya the Tiger and, you know, him trying to put to show off to the little kids. the first putt was so offline that the guy down, you know, 15 feet away from him, took the putter in his hand and just think and putted it back to him because otherwise it was just going to keep rolling and go right off the green. And we can't have people. Oh, good Lord.
Starting point is 02:05:41 We can't have people seeing Daddy putt that poorly. I don't know how he gets away with living in the Oval Office drive. Well, he tries not to. You know, it costs us millions of dollars to send him home to that pile of bricks down there at Maga Loco every weekend. Well, no, I mean, the White House is on the grounds of the National Park. You'd think after all of his convictions, he would have been restricted from being anywhere near to find a park. That's true. But I just, these guys are dangerous.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I mean, people are going to get killed. Because people like, well, you don't need the psychotropes anymore? Well, you might not. The whole idea in the last, I don't know, 10, 15 years is then to make medications as flight as possible. I mean, when they started me on Zoloff, for example, they had me on a minimal dose. And then if I needed more,
Starting point is 02:07:12 they told me, you know, double up on it until you finish that, and then we'll have you on the next level up. And see how that works. Even to the point of shifting what time of day I take it. because at one time they had me taking it in the morning and at night, and I couldn't function during the day. But that's my result.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Yes. And it doesn't work overnight, and it's not perfect. And I think that's what Medea was trying to get across, and she's absolutely right. That's why psychiatrists, as a person, to just the psychologist or therapist need to spend maybe 25 minutes or half an hour with each patient to make sure that there are other issues in their life health-wise and whatnot that might not be affecting them. This whole 15-minute turnaround is just a way to make billable hours.
Starting point is 02:08:34 hours. And I thought lawyers were bad, you know, because if a psychiatrist thinks for 10 minutes about the case, he charges the four patients for an hour, which means you get six hours per hour day. You get 48 hours a day in billing, and that's just weird. I guess it's because they have to pay off their student loans. But
Starting point is 02:09:16 if we're ever going to hold people like Bobby Kennedy accountable for their actions while they're in office, we need a stricter code of conduct for health providers concerning conflicts of interest.
Starting point is 02:09:49 I'm not adverse to somebody getting, like, chiropractic treatment and taking supplements for their health to help them with their chiropractic care. I've done that. But also, there are standards of practice among
Starting point is 02:10:16 chiropractic doctors of chiropractic medicine there are certain techniques that are advised and others that aren't you need a team
Starting point is 02:10:38 of people to treat you not just your primary care physician and it needs to include things like nutrition and and
Starting point is 02:10:49 chronic disease management and I'm sure you have your Morton Pessel to grind in that form whenever you want to have those extra sticky buns on a Sunday morning with your decaf. How did you know it was the sticky buns?
Starting point is 02:11:10 It was the sticky buns. Yes. Well, and with my decaf with half and half because I am in fact that bitch, as Matt noted. Well, I'm not, girl. There, I have to take exception with you. The preferred dairy additives to coffee of any variety is whole milk. It's not that 2% crap.
Starting point is 02:11:37 No, this is the hell I'm going to die on. It's half and half or nothing. If I'm not making coffee. Okay, but if I made coffee and put the whole milk in and didn't tell you it wasn't half and half, I would defy you. I would know. I would know. No, I mean, I've said before, I absolutely adore Fair Life whole milk, you know, the Red Carton,
Starting point is 02:12:00 because it tastes like milk with cream in it. I mean, it's that rich. And it's lactose-free, too, which is nice, and it's got more protein in it. Yay. But you could pour me two identical, and I wouldn't know, you could pour me two identical cups of decap. You could put Fair Life Whole milk in one and half in the other. I will spot it every time. well you see the fat the fat receptors on my taste buds are highly kind they're they're they're like a they're like the strativarius of taste buds okay i'll take your word for it but if i were to mix you in some dark brown sugar into that coffee before i put a go i'd spray it across the room sweet coffee jesus christ
Starting point is 02:12:53 I'd rather have sugar in my fucking cornbread than sugar in coffee. Even brown sugar, which has more taste. No, no, no, no. And you know what? And I got to tell you, because this goes back a decade or more. You know something else I never did? I never put butter in coffee. I never even tried it.
Starting point is 02:13:17 I might have liked it. Butter and black tea I've done, but not in coffee. And now, I don't know if you've seen this or. I don't know if you've seen this or not, Dave. But now I'm getting ads in my algorithm for drinking cocoa powder instead of coffee. Have you seen any of those ads? No. No.
Starting point is 02:13:48 If I want cocoa powder in my coffee, I'll just put it in directly. Well, I used to try it with one of the bun drip machines. But cocoa powder is so fine that it would clog up. the paper filter, and then everything ran over, and it was just terrible. And by the way, oh dear, Matt's serious about this one. Matt just wrote, Dave, Dave, Dave. What part of she's that bitch are you not getting? Well, of course I know she's...
Starting point is 02:14:23 Oh, my God, I just trying to reform that bitch, Matt. I'm trying to drop her. I just got hit by a ginormous wave of deja vu. I have actually I swear, or maybe it's brain chemistry, I don't know, maybe I need medicine, but I swear I have seen that exact email in my dreams
Starting point is 02:14:45 and I was on the phone with you because sometimes I dream about the show. We've never done this. We've never, we've never had that email before, have we? Not that I know. No, we've had a lot of emails from Matt, but not like that one. I mean, oh my
Starting point is 02:15:02 me. I know the people are dealing with, Matt. Deja vu on Cinque. Cote Mayo? Well, it almost makes me want to drink, right? Regarding coffee, the Camel Cardinal says, bullshit, it's half and half or nothing. If I was to drink some warm, if I was to drink some warmed-over swap in the morning,
Starting point is 02:15:26 I'd take a second look at Bannon Stockpot. Oh, Jesus. And there went dinner in the Mountain Daylight Time Zone, with scant minutes to spare before the end of the program. You people are, I must applaud, I must applaud Matt and the Camel Cardinal for ruining dinner everywhere in the world. Oh, and by the way, congratulations, fellas. I thought of you, because I had a, I have a feeling you would enjoy it immensely.
Starting point is 02:15:58 I wish there was some way for me to get one to you. there's an Italian place in Williamstown, West Virginia, which sits right on West Virginia's river, the one that was misnamed. Uh-huh. And right across the river from Mayreta, the name of the place is Da Vinci's. It's an Italian joint. But there's a significant German presence in that part of the mid-Ohio Valley.
Starting point is 02:16:30 One of the, one of, if not the oldest tavern slash pubs in West Virginia is in Parkersburg. And it's called the Net, the North End Tavern. And it was founded in 1890, something like that. They got the best hamburger in West Virginia, just so you know. Unpaid product placement, by the way. They brew their own beer. Yeah. But anyway, I was at the Wiggling Pig, which has since rebranded itself as the market on Emerson.
Starting point is 02:17:09 They must have been a fallen out with said Pig. And I noticed that they carry a frozen pizza from Da Vinci's. But it's not what you would expect a frozen pizza from an Italian place to be. It's marketed and built, and there's one in the freezer at Victoria's, and we're going to have it soon. And it's all piled high with stuff. It's a German pizza. And if I understand the label, it's basically, get this, a Rubin done as a pizza. So it's got a rye crust.
Starting point is 02:17:49 No, I don't know that it's got a rye crust, but it's got corned beef and sauerkraut and Swiss cheese. And don't forget for Thousand Island dressing. I don't know if you can freeze Thousand Island dressing on a pizza. But the damn thing's at least two inches thick. Like any good German bed would be, I can't. I mean, my family comes from Lower Sandusky, Ohio, not far from the West Virginia River. I know where Sandusky is, yes. where my aunt was the sheriff in that area
Starting point is 02:18:37 for a while and she's all of maybe five foot six and a really skinny woman and I try to imagine her you know in her uniform carrying her pistol everything and the same damn you're weighing her down but now she's close to 90 now and she's not in good health
Starting point is 02:19:06 but she had one of the most distinctive laughs I have heard on a human game and my high school sweetheart had the same laugh that was the funny part that was the funny part And so, but, you know, I think we need to remember what Todd would remind us that we should, in times like this, we should eat well and treat each other with decency.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Yes. Because that's the way we're going to get through this. I entirely agree. I look forward to hearing from Todd. So Todd, if you're listening, call in and sound off and went Roxanne. What's your thinking? Absolutely. And if you can bring a barbecue recipe, I'd love it.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Thank you. One of these days when I get over this whole driving thing, I just need to do a cross-country tour just being like barbecue Mrs. Claus and just dropping off the pork shoulders for all the good little horn denistasos and hornedonistas. And by the way, Sylvie just said, glad I missed it. I just got home and turned you on to here, and there goes dinner in the Mountain Time Zone. I'm glad I missed whatever it was. Oh, yes, you are.
Starting point is 02:20:49 You absolutely are, Sylvie. No, no, it wasn't the Mountain Time Zone, Sylvie. It was worldwide. That's true. It was. It was worldwide. Billable Rick snap, a snack, poor Joy in Ann Arbor's breakfast in the morning. It's going to be bad.
Starting point is 02:21:04 And by the way, Matt in San Francisco, I'm getting the cocoa coffee ads. Matt says, I keep getting ads for mushroom coffee. I can't imagine why the algorithm picked up on that. I do, too. And that sounds gross. I mean, I haven't eaten mushrooms since high school. It does sound disgusting. And I wonder if they're talking about the kind of mushrooms I think they're talking about. No, these are supposed to be supporting your health.
Starting point is 02:21:33 This is one of those health supplement bedrugers. Oh, I just feel like it's going to taste like dirt. They charge you $20 a pot, and they've got maybe five cents in it. Yeah, well, okay, as long as it's not something that Bobby Kennedy will run out and drink a quart of. I mean, as for me, I can't handle the caffeine, but I do like just a little boost that I get from my morning cup of decaf, and I can't imagine seeing Paisley skies about 30 minutes after the coffee. That might be cool for some people, but not me. My life is weird.
Starting point is 02:22:13 That's why I don't do it. Especially if you're driving down the road to the settlement. Yeah, and that's why I don't do psychedelics. My regular life is weird enough. Boy, besides poor Shad would be looking at Auntie and going, oh? Yeah. Speaking of which, he barked a couple of minutes ago,
Starting point is 02:22:36 so that was the get-off-the-clock. That was the get-off-the-clock Auntie bark. Matt noting, always be decent to people. You never know when you may need an addict tied in. Ain't that the damn truth? Yeah. And Bill of All right.
Starting point is 02:22:53 And Bill of Rick says, please tell Dave that he didn't spoil my afternoon snack with his worldwide gross out because I was on the phone at the time. Hopefully you were billing for it, billable. I judge that bullet billable, and I'm glad I'm not going to get a season to assist a letter from here. Oh, my God. I do love getting a little bit of validation here and there. Daryl and Houston, half and half.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Roxanne's 100% correct. Milk and coffee. Buh. Heavy cream, yuck, half and half, perfection. And from Tamara, just to save that in San Francisco from any temptation whatsoever, Tamara says mushroom coffee can confirm, tastes like dirt, no hallucinations. Then what's the point? And you know what the point is?
Starting point is 02:23:46 They're trying, oh, God. Do I need to do the Alex Jones voice for this? I think I might have to. They're trying to get it. used to the idea that there's not going to be any coffee anymore. The coffee's going away, the bananas are going away. Everything that makes our lives good is
Starting point is 02:24:00 going away because of the globalists. Or something like that. Or because of the transies. You know, the transies have ruined the bananas and the coffee. The coffee's okay now that bananas are trans. You can tell because the bananas have gone all limp. Considering
Starting point is 02:24:19 that the onion is about to own Alex to the rest of his natural and unlike I think when they finally do take over in full wars we ought to brew up the largest patch of French onion soup that we can
Starting point is 02:24:45 lay our hands upon and sell it as a as a celebratory bowl and then donate all the money to the Sandy Hook family who have been tortured by that gravely voiced asshole. Oh, and just one thing
Starting point is 02:25:15 before we you know, shut down the program. You know, they had the footage of nitwit Nero on the putting green and then later talking to the little ones about how Iran was going to murder all of you. Well, the minute I saw him talking to those mostly little boys, something occurred to me, and it was this. This is Denver Flight Control. You're approaching some rough weather. Please climb to 42,000 feet. Roger, Denver. We have the visitor.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Hello. Hi. This is Captain Older, Mr. Murdoch, and Mr. Basta. This is Joey Hammond. Oh, hi, Joey. Come on up here. You can see better. Joey, we have something here for our special visitors. Would you like to have it?
Starting point is 02:26:06 Thank you. Thanks a lot. Sure. You ever been in the cockpit before? No, sir. I've never been up in a plane before. You ever seen a grown man naked? Joey, do you ever hang around the gymnasium?
Starting point is 02:26:25 Joey, do you like movies? about gladiators. Yeah, I'm sorry. I could see I could see But would Nittwidge the autopilot? Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked? You want to see one?
Starting point is 02:26:46 Come here, kid. No. No. In Lossan. Nitwit Niro would engage the autopilot in that aircraft. That's true. And it would look like Vladimir Putin
Starting point is 02:26:59 everything in that movie remains evergreen yeah yeah well has your dad ever gone up and down the court with bill lambere on his back and uh let's forget the great david leisure as one of the hurry christmas on the plane absolutely well dave you have yourself a good evening my friend take care all right roch and stay away Christine, you said hi.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Go, please. And stay away from the mushroom coffee and the cocoa powder coffee. Just enjoy your coffee, Dave. No, I'm just going to use my Nestle's quick or my Hershey's chocolate syrup in the coffee. I'm not. Way, way, way back in time. I don't put around with my very first espresso machine. I used to make little demit tosses of.
Starting point is 02:27:59 I would put just a little tiny drop of Hershey syrup and a little tiny drop of orange extract in the bottom of the cup, make the espresso onto it, and then, you know, put the foam on to it. Oh, it was heavenly. That was wonderful. All right, girl. I'll talk to you next week. All right, Dave. You take care. See ya.
Starting point is 02:28:22 All right. Oh, give our best of the gang down at the shop. I will. All right. Bye. I will. Our buddy, Dave. in the blind. Wow, what a program this turned out to be. Thanks everybody. Thanks for sharing
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