Head-ON With Robyn Roxanne Kincaid - Head-ON With Roxanne Kincaid, Friday-On-the-Front-Porch, 6 March 2026

Episode Date: March 7, 2026

Who's next? Apparently Cuba, that's who. Forever Wars, here we come! So sayeth the Mental Defective-In-Chief. He and his buddy PscychoBibi appear to have the beginnings of WW III on their agenda. Gosh...! Remember when Nitwit Nero said Kamala was the WW III lady? Oops! MAGATS begin to turn on Krusti the Nasty Nazi Noem. More allegations of the  monstrosity of Pedophilus Maximus.  It's a struggle from month to month to stay on the air. Always has been, but it seems to be getting more difficult. We're through the first week of March and entirely unfunded. We still haven't finished February. The H.O.R.N. relies on the generosity of those who know how important indepedent media are. Can you please help?

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Starting point is 00:00:01 The password is proximate. Here we go, live from behind the corn phone curtain. It's head-on with Roxanne Kincaid. Three hours of cussin and discussin, with America's only liberal transbilly elitist right here, right now, on the head-on radio network. Brought to you in part by Cole River Mountain Watch, who invites you to be part of the uprising against mountaintop removal,
Starting point is 00:00:46 CRMW.net. And now, from high in the hills of West by God, Virginia, here she is. Roxanne Kincaid. Well, howdy. And here we go. Off and running. It's the end of the week. It's Friday on the front porch.
Starting point is 00:01:18 The 6th day of March, 2006. This is the horn. Headon. Dot live is where you'll find us on the interweb tubes. That's where you go if you'd like to be part of the Mary Wacky Zany Brewerks. Real-time Madcap multimedia extravaganza. That is the horn chat room in the three hours in which this program is live. Monday through Friday, 5 to 8 p.m.
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Starting point is 00:04:08 The funding deficit is at $2,070. That means that we are unfunded for, let's see, yeah, this entire week, and all but $30 of last Friday. Oh, well, if we could, hey, that's great. If we could come up with $270, well, we would at least be no. Yeah, 20, no. So that's, we're still, sorry, we are still $470 from being fully funded for the month of February. And then, of course, this entire week is unfunded.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So fingers crossed, if you are able and if you are of a mind, please consider hitting the PayPal button and helping us get back to something approaching, you know, in the black, so to speak. Because, again, the bills, they are awaiting. And I've got some traveling. I have to do, well, a week. from Sunday Victoria and I
Starting point is 00:05:30 are going down to North Carolina. I have one more consultation to do before I'm trying to get everything done before any potential executive orders kick in and I lose coverage that is a very real possibility
Starting point is 00:05:45 and a very worrisome one as well but need to get caught up pretty please and let's see I did the high on Roxanne thing yeah well
Starting point is 00:06:08 where did it again we could go with stupid because stupid is always a a distinct possibility in this repulsive maggot timeline
Starting point is 00:06:25 and geez what do I mean by that, well, if you check the show post that Micah put up over on Blue Sky at head on. dot live, thank you again, Micah. Let's see here.
Starting point is 00:06:48 This clip is just weird. You know, I've mentioned from time to time that once upon a time, I was an eager little student of anthropology and archaeology. And well, I learned
Starting point is 00:07:10 a lot about, oh, let's see, let's rattle off a few names. Australopithecus robustus, astralopithecus aphyrinsus, homo erectus, homo hobobulus, et cetera. And so, imagine my surprise, when
Starting point is 00:07:43 And I found that one of the Fed governors, one Stephen Mirren, showed up on CNBC to talk about, and I think this would be Homo Hobulus. Homo erectus is the hominine or hominid that first stood up and started walking on two legs and immediately had back problems. homo hobbolus Handy hominid Well, that's your first maker of stone tools I learned all of that Back when I was writing my dinosaur
Starting point is 00:08:24 Anthropology 101 Oh so many decades ago Like I said So imagine my surprise to See this clip from CNBC It was supposed to be a conversation about how the Fed doesn't take oil prices into account with its monetary policy, how they're not that worried about the jump in unemployment.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. Stephen, no. But then an incredibly awkward conversation, one which one does not expect to hear from a governor of the Fed get the hockey puck out the debate now is about what is the new job if AI is trying to replicate cognitive work in all kinds of areas right yes so I think that people are really bad at imagining
Starting point is 00:09:29 what those are ex ante and that's always been the case throughout the you know hundreds of thousands of years of technological progress you know for for humans even and before humans too as you know as earlier types of of homo, you know, almost, you know, just started using tools, right? You know, we have a hard time imagining what the new jobs can be because they don't exist yet.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And as an economist, I'm not really good at, as a futurist. I'm not really good at imagining exactly what the new types of jobs will be, but we have thousands of years of technological progress that indicates that we always create new jobs. Homos using tools. Brothers, sisters, nibblings, behold a governor of the fed kind of made me want to get an early start on the
Starting point is 00:10:26 Mexican gasoline with the swirly straw earlier today he's comparing the rise of AI stealing jobs with homo hobbolus learning to flake tools Louis Leaky in the Olduvai Gorge in Kenya Ha ha You know if we were still doing bumper music here because we had ads
Starting point is 00:11:03 I'd probably have queued up A song Called Scatterlings of Africa Because it's about the only rock and roll song I know that contains a reference to Olduvai Gorge, where Louis Likie found or discovered Lucy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:11:35 This timeline is, to say the very least, effing stupid. No, Lee, no, but nonetheless, you start the program out as you also often do with the first Rommelama ding-dong. Did you say Handy Hobelis named Lauren? Relative of Smurfs? Homo hobelis, handy-man.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But that was quality. That really was quality. But the thing is, all is not well on the AI front either. Because we put it in the hands of billionaire derpoids and so this little moment from blue sky
Starting point is 00:12:52 it started out with a post from Pollymarket one of those incredibly stupid platforms where you can just bet on birds on a wire because you got nothing better to do with your money Polymarket said
Starting point is 00:13:12 breaking Anthropic CEO says Claude may or may not have gained consciousness as the model has begun showing symptoms of anxiety. Oh, really, Claude?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Really? Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to this shitty, shitty timeline, Claude. Anxiety is kind of part of the part of the gig I mean well
Starting point is 00:13:57 here we are so it's a long distance dedication going out to Claude the AI over at Anthropic
Starting point is 00:14:14 which is interesting because well anthropic anthropology the study of humanness and it turns out we're finding out that AI is discovering its humanity
Starting point is 00:14:37 by being stressed the fuck right out high anxiety whenever you're near high anxiety it's you that I fear my heart's afraid to fly
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's crashed before. But then you take my hand, my heart starts to soar once more. Anxiety, it's always the same. Insiety, it's you that I blame. It's very clear to me. I've got to give in. So that goes out to you, Claude.
Starting point is 00:15:59 The follow-up to that polymarket post, literally, as I'm arguing with someone about whether AI companies are misleading people into believing their technology possesses godlike superintelligence, I see this monstrosity. Let's not be so mean, shall we? And finally, one commenter said, While I do not believe that Claude has gained consciousness, it is incredible nonetheless that the world is such a fucking disaster than even large language models are having panic attacks about it. Well, why not? This is...
Starting point is 00:16:47 Angstveld! Right? It... Jesus. We freaked out the AIs. from Micah, we made a super intelligence. What you did was fuck up perfectly good autocorrect. Look at it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It has anxiety. I know. I know, Micah. I know. And Lucy. And Louis Leaky. And Louis Leaky. Tom and Sunny San Rafael says,
Starting point is 00:17:36 and the next day she offered to hold the football. We are often running on this here, Friday on the front porch. We truly are. Handy who? Christopher says in Oregon says, Roxanne, what's all this talk about Handy hominids? Are those beetle juice bare-breast boobart's earliest ancestors? The jokes just write themselves, don't they?
Starting point is 00:18:07 From George and Corsegold, working the same corner as Tom in Sunny Sun Rafael, San Rafael. Leaky and Lucy, was that Lucy Van Pelt? Was she holding the football? Do you see how amazing... And they think artificial intelligence is something. We have the horn hive mind here. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And Lee in New York, you could play Lucy in the sky with diamonds from the Lucy entry at Wikipedia. Lucy was named by Pamela Alderman. after the 1967 song, Lucy in the sky with diamonds by the Beatles, which was played loudly and repeatedly in the expedition camp all evening after the excavation team's first day of work on the recovery site. After public announcement of the discovery, Lucy captured much international interest
Starting point is 00:19:06 becoming a household name at the time. And thanks for that, Lee. Jeremy says, no singing, doesn't matter who's doing it. you're in a hole. Oh, come on. Mel Brooks is 100 years old. Cut him some slack. And I know.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Simply put, from Ralph's, what the hell is he talking about? Well, he's talking about how every technological revolution has changed society or culture to one degree or another.
Starting point is 00:19:43 One minute, you're happily hunting and gathering and shaking grasses for their seeds and the next, minute, you know, a couple of generations later, people are having to stay in place because the seeds don't shake off the grass anymore. They have to be removed. And next thing you know, you're threshing and, and what, stomping and all of that. We never even meant to do it. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:20:16 intentional. It was a fuck-up. from Flavio Anxiety is the price of admission, Claude. Welcome aboard. Relax, said the nightman. We are programmed to receive you.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. Yep, yep, yep. They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast. Who knew that a hotel hot California was a disc track for yachts? rock but there we are Randy Radar large language models as I understand them
Starting point is 00:21:05 weren't able to reason about human emotions but the recent ones do so they technically aren't and they aren't five years off from taking over the new estimate is two years max well they get I mean among other things we have actual examples of AIs getting anxious about being disconnected and threatened people should they try to do so. This is not like the transition from buggy whip manufacturer to manufacturing gear shifts. This is something new and different.
Starting point is 00:21:54 This is not the difference between previous stone tools and, oh, the cloveist point. Oh, we're deep in anthropology and archaeology nerdery now. Yeah. But God, that was stupid. Oh, and you know what? This is a new thing, early March. And it's actually kind of uncomfortably warm in the studio. It's 76 degrees in here.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I should have given this some thought. We could have done naked radio today. Dang it. There went dinner in the Eastern Standard Time Zone for this Friday on the front porch. What's that, Dave in the Blind? Stopping all weekies. The Trump administration announced a new crackdown on all weekies, and since Lucy's involved,
Starting point is 00:22:59 doubly dares her to, Nittwit Niro, doubly dares her to show her face because she was a woman. Much love and laughter, and my best to Professor Lilulman, who sleeps with one eye open. Professor little old man, that's Lowell-Alman. Right. And do you remember how people told Richard Nixon that he was well and truly, was it Richard Nixon or LBJ,
Starting point is 00:23:32 well and truly screwed when Walter Cronkite traveled to Vietnam and said, there's no way to win this war. That was a low water mark. because, you know, when you've, and the saying goes, when you'd lost Walter Cronkite, you'd lost the country. Well, there's something like that going on in Maggot World. Uh-huh. And this is especially funny because,
Starting point is 00:24:03 for those of you who are fans, what's the name of the high school where Meg and Chris go to school in family guy. Yeah, James Woods High School, right? James Woods has been infamous for years for what an asshole maggot
Starting point is 00:24:31 troll he is. Well, no more. But it's not, I mean, it's not because he's stopped being a maggot. It's because the Republican Party, James Woods, has declared. And by the way, James Woods.
Starting point is 00:24:57 What's that, professor? You dick! Yeah. James Wood says the maggot Congress isn't maggot Congress enough. He's mad in particular at Representative Nancy Hatchet Face Mace because they refuse to go along with her concerns. conspiracy theories about Representative Ilhan Omar. In a clip published online from Mr. Meth Pillow TV, Lindell TV, I thought he was broke.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Nancy Hatchetface Mace said, I tried to subpoena her immigration records, her brother's husband's immigration records, and it was all Republicans that killed my motion. And so, James Woods said, I'm done with the Republican Party. Between this and Thune's refusal to pass the SAVE Act and disenfranchise all the brown people that I hate, I added that part, brown women that I hate, there I amended and edited that part.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I'm done with these un-uniparty traitors. I'm changing my party affiliation to independent. No wonder President Trump is fighting an uphill battle every day. James' talent agent ditched him in 2018 because he became unemployable by virtue of being complete and absolute and utter scrotum wrinkle. Oh, well, gosh. Do you think the independents really want you, James? Because they don't.
Starting point is 00:26:58 They don't. Former Republicans like Rick Wilson and Tim, what's his name? Miller, the guy at the bulwark. They don't want to be identified alongside you. Because, well, James, you know, the fact of the matter is, it's true. You dick! Yeah, you're a dick, James. You're a dick. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But that is not the big story. Oh, no. The big story is the new release of documents from the Trumpstein files. It's only getting worse. Happened yesterday, but we were too busy talking about Krusty the nasty Nazi gnome and her boyfriend Corey getting ousted from the maggot administration, well, from DHS. No more $220 million photo shoots for you, Krusty. But while that was all going on, the FBI,
Starting point is 00:28:21 quietly, or the DOJ quietly, released some more Trumpstein pages. And these go back decades. Politico reported that the woman whose identity is still protected said that she was a teenager. Back when someone introduced her to nitwit Nero. The files were dated between August and October of 2000. the unidentified woman says that when she was between 13 and 15 years old, Epstein took it to either New York or New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:29:13 She said it was a very tall building with huge rooms, and that's where Epstein introduced her to his buddy, Trump. In her interview, she said Trump didn't like that I was a boy girl. interpreters have said that they think she meant convoy. I don't know. But she said first, early on, other people were present,
Starting point is 00:29:46 but then Trump told them to leave the room and said, quote, something to the effect of, let me teach you how little girls are supposed to be. And trigger warning, then unzipped his trousers. And put her head down to his, well, and that's when she said that she bit the shit. shit out of it.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And he pulled her hair and punched her on the side of the head. Get this little bitch the hell out of here! And she said people close to her, and she herself, had received threatening phone calls, and she stated under her breath that if it was not Epstein, maybe it was the other one. When the FBI agent said, of what other one, she said, Trump. Good God.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I realize it's a matter of confirmation bias, but does anyone have any problem at all believing every word of that? Because I don't. How many times has he been sued? How many women have credibly accused him of sexually assaulting them or abusing them? There's at least one judgment, you know, E. Jean Carroll. And he owes her north of $100 million for trying to shame her and defame her after she spoke out about his predatory actions,
Starting point is 00:31:34 his rape behavior. One of these days, one of these days, God. And apparently, now that Daddy has given her the heave-ho, Republicans are beginning to speak up, yeah, courageous souls that they are, about Krusty the nasty Nazi gnome, in an article in the Daily Beast, well, Nancy Hatchetface Mace
Starting point is 00:32:21 says she's going to try to subpoena Krusty over her claim that her orange daddy signed off on her $220 million cosplay photo shoots. Hatchetface said
Starting point is 00:32:48 he'll pay repercussions for spending taxpayer funds on her personal PR. I don't think she walks away from this and she shouldn't because as Republicans we need to hold our own accountable. Then she went on to praise Senator Jubilation T. Corn Pohn of Louisiana, Stan. I'm very grateful to Republican Senator Kennedy. Really, you're grateful to him. How about Republicans like, oh, Ron Wyden of Oregon, or Sheldon White, or Sheldon White,
Starting point is 00:33:24 House of Rhode Island, who have been screaming from the rooftops all along. How about being grateful to Jamie Raskin? Yeah, I guess not. I'm very grateful to Republican Senator Kennedy. I had no idea how much money, hundreds of millions of dollars that Christy Nomen wasted on her personal PR for all those TV ads that are running across the country that have nothing to do with deporting illegal aliens. Well, maybe you ought to pay attention.
Starting point is 00:33:59 to your colleagues across the aisle once in a while. Dumbass! That is if you can find time to crawl out of the dumpster you share with that sex past Corey Lewandowski. I know. Representative Don Bacon, who every now and then will mutter something that he hopes will be taken as meaningful. You know, when it's safe for him to do that, he's a maggot from a repegglican from Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Speaking to WFMD, he said, when there was a $200 million advertising campaign, we should be better stewards of our money. I think the president probably saw a need for change. He knew. Don, you silly
Starting point is 00:35:00 summer child, he knew. God, talk about willful ignorance. What he objected to was it becoming public that somebody had been grifting as hard or harder than he. Well, You know, I for one, and look, just speculating here, if she thought it would save her bleached blonde ass,
Starting point is 00:35:32 you think Jojo Blondie would hesitate to get a real line prosecutor to bring charges against Krusty? Hopefully diverting attention from her own absolutely filthy corruption? I think she'd do it in a heartbeat. But, well, the password was proximate, as in proximate cause, a level of causation without which a subsequent action could not have happened. Classic case in point, oh, look, it's another pedophile maggot. Mm-hmm. No, really. this maggot's name is
Starting point is 00:36:49 Andrew Paul Johnson Andrew Paul Johnson was one of the domestic terrorists who attacked the Capitol and the Constitution on January 6th, 2021 and on January the 20th, 2025, nitwit Nero pardoned him
Starting point is 00:37:11 and got him out of the joint Well, Andrew Paul Johnson is on his way back to the joint because no sooner than he'd been pardoned, Andrew Paul Johnson started sexually abusing a little girl. He was convicted last month on five counts, including molesting a child under 12 and an under 16, as well as transmitting harmful materials by electronic device to a minor.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And he's going to do life, he's going to do. life in prison in Florida. He told one of his victims that he would pay her when he got paid by the federal government for having been imprisoned after January the 6th
Starting point is 00:38:16 and that he would then put his victim in his will to receive anything that was left over. Yeah. Well, the proximate cause of that child sexual abuse is none other than Donald J. Trump,
Starting point is 00:38:49 the pedophile in chief. Because had he not done so, had he not pardoned, well, the man would not have been able to be out there sexually abusing little girls. Proximate cause. From Flavio, large language models. I read this article by an Icelander, Balder Bjarranson, who studies these things,
Starting point is 00:39:26 the LLM Mentalist Effect, how chat-based large language models replicate the mechanisms of a psychics con. Some quotes, LLMs are not brains and do not meaningfully share any of the mechanisms that animals or people use to reason or think. LLMs are a mathematical model of language tokens. You give an LLM a text,
Starting point is 00:39:46 and it will give you a mathematically plausible response to that text. There's no reason to believe that it thinks or reasons. Indeed, every AI researcher and vendor to date has repeatedly emphasized that these. models don't think the intelligence illusion is in the mind of the user and not the LLM itself it's like going to a fortune teller it's a con and Sam Altman and those AI bros are all hucksters yeah they are but the hucksters are getting well let's put it this way we're going to have to get a lot better at identifying
Starting point is 00:40:34 AI Slop Already you can hardly turn I'd say on a given day that probably north of 80% of the links that I open to AI Slop and you can kind of identify them
Starting point is 00:40:54 but the websites have sketchy names and are almost impossible to even read without being inundated with ads. Well, it's gotten worse. And from time to time,
Starting point is 00:41:16 here, we wander into the world of what is supposedly legitimate, real journalism in hopes of getting a decently written, unbiased account of any given news story. Well, AI has apparently carpeed the DM out of all places the associated press. The AP has someone
Starting point is 00:41:51 who has a job as their head of AI. AP Senior Product Manager for AI, Amy Reinhart is the person in question. And she recently wrote because
Starting point is 00:42:12 local newsrooms are so strapped they are turning for assistance on the newsmaking process in every direction. Advanced publications got there first, others will follow. Resistance is futile. She went on to suggest that in the future, reporters would just show up at an event and get some quotes and plug them into an LLM and let the LLM then write the damn story.
Starting point is 00:42:49 she said some editors told her they would prefer to have reporters report and have articles at least pre-written by AI there are many and i mean many editors who would prefer an AI written article to a human written one reporting and writing are two different skill sets and rare rare is the occasion when it's wrapped into one person well it becomes wrapped into one person look at Hemingway Hemingway graduated high school that's all he had and either before or after he went off to the First World War as an ambulance driver, he worked as a cub reporter for the Kansas City Star. He covered the police beat and honed his craft, that's honed the proper usage of the word, his craft in writing the day-in and day-out stuff that a young reporter deals with in the course of reporting on things like the police blotter. After the First World War, he would eventually be contracted by the Toronto Star, I think, where he would begin writing about the aftermath of the war and sending back dispatches for that paper.
Starting point is 00:44:23 This is so bass-acquards, this Reinhard and her idea of how people become writers. And a lot of Associated Press journalists kind of lost their shit with one AP reporter saying, dismissiveness and disdain some of you have shown for human writing are insulting and abhorrent. Strong reporting and clear writing are the lifeblood of journalism, not AI-written slop. AI may be inevitable, but denigrating the work of colleagues who write for a living without whom there would be no associated press is disgraceful. And again, look at Henningley. You cannot have the clarity and conciseness with which he writes things like The Sun also rises and God knows those exquisitely crafted short stories without him first having written and written. and written and written and written.
Starting point is 00:45:30 He famously said at one point in time, writing is easy. You just sit down at the typewriter, open a vein, and bleed out a pint. Something on that along those lines. Another AP staffer said, it's hard not to escape the feeling that the people hyping and guiding
Starting point is 00:45:51 the decisions around these powerful tools exist in a totally different reality than the people who wake up every day and do the work of reporting. How many other great writers have also been reporters along the way? Different kinds of writing will teach you different styles.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I had years where I wrote journalism, and after that I learned to write legal. They are vastly different things. But if you want to convey straightforward meaning, journalism is the better model. of the two, and AI is slop, garbage, trash.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And it tends to give itself away, but if it's going to show up, it's going to start showing up in AP reporting, that means AP reporting can no longer be trusted. And that's deeply disturbing. You know, with the advent of
Starting point is 00:47:07 computer-driven translation services, real human translators who have spent their lives bridging the gap between one language and another or another and another, well, they weren't worth paying anymore. So I guess according to what's his fuck over at the Federal Reserve, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:47:35 The writers can learn to be, what, scrapers for AI? You know, the same way that the Clovis point made older tools obsolete. Just, well, I felt like we should at least address the issue because it's going to be all over the place soon. And I worry about things like this because I'm replaceable by AI. And it's fretful. I mean, I don't think you could ever find an AI that would replace, say, Malloy.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I've got enough of an ego to say that I think a computer would have a hard time replicating me and my weirdness and the goofy voices. But I may be entirely wrong. It's distressing. But there are human beings out there already who have. who have destroyed their marriages by falling in love with AI chatbots? And they're not that rare. Oh, you just stop it, Jeremy. I know A-SA put you up to this.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Wait, this program is live. It's not just AI? I'm shocked. You boys. You boys. Flavio says, and even an email from Flavio, or from anyone else, if there's any. any length to the AI to the message at all
Starting point is 00:49:56 Gmail offers me an AI overview of anything more than a couple of paragraphs. Well, fuck that AI. Flavio said what about last year when
Starting point is 00:50:12 Italian newspaper Ilfolio published an entirely AI edition? Ilfolio says artificial intelligence used for everything, the writing, the headlines, the quotes, even the irony. Dateline 18 March 2025. Roma.
Starting point is 00:50:32 An Italian newspaper is said it as the first in the world to publish an edition entirely produced by artificial intelligence. The initiative by Ilfolio, a conservative liberal daily, is part of a month-long journalistic experiment aimed at showing the impact AI technology has on our way of working and our days. Page 2 has a story about situationships and how young Europeans are fleeing steady relationships. the editor A reminder of that great quote Every editor should have a pimp for a brother-in-law So he has someone to look up to The
Starting point is 00:51:25 Editor Claudio Serasa Said it's just another folio made with intelligence Don't call it artificial Don't call it intelligence Now Steve in New York says I disagree proper legal writing is far better. Well, it depends on the purpose.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Legal writing tends to get lost in clauses and sub clauses and dependent clauses that can go on for paragraphs, or what would otherwise be paragraphs. Good journalistic writing provides, hopefully, with short, concise sentences, the essence of the moment. Let me see if I can find it here. Classic Hemingway quote comes to mind. Just a second. There it is. One of the most profound endings in any literary work.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Oh, Jake, Brett said, we could have had such a damned good time together. A head was a mounted policeman in khaki directing traffic. He raised his baton. The car slowed suddenly pressing Brett against me. Yes, I said, Isn't it pretty to think so? The end.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Shortly before that exchange, Brett explained, the lady Brett explains to Hemingley that her personal philosophy, sometimes not being a bitch, is what we have instead of God. Steve, I shuddered to think what a lawyer writing lawyerly would make of a quote like that. And secondhand, Micah notes, we won't go into the detail.
Starting point is 00:54:19 I've had my own brush with it secondhand. Remember, I get to talk to God. For the rest of the horn family, it's not me. Somebody just thinks I can. Because like an AI told them. Yeah, see, there. I hope you're right, Flavia. No LLM could ever write the Old Man in the Sea,
Starting point is 00:54:44 for which Hemingway won the Nobel Prize for Literature. And it's a brilliant novella. I think that was one of those Lifetime Achievement Awards, and they just used the Old Man in the Sea as the vehicle for it. But it is brilliant. but so too is the sun also rises for whom the bell tolls
Starting point is 00:55:17 to have and have not and if you don't cry at a farewell to arms you might just be an LLM yourself oh god here we go you've started it Jeremy the program's live says Lee I thought it was Memorex well a certain generation
Starting point is 00:55:40 will get that joke I don't think anybody under 50 will. Randy Radar pointing out if an office worker has a job now, the fear is not that he, she, or they can be replaced, but that that office worker may already be training his, her, or their AI replacement and may not know it. The same has occurred to me. And I guess the only thing is to put it,
Starting point is 00:56:19 And I think I need to put a disclaimer in front of the program saying, no portion of this program can or will be licensed for use to train any computer-driven language models. Because lawsuits are already out there. The tech derr bros have already taken to stealing not only people's words, But they're very voices. And if you take a couple of minutes and think about that, it can become deeply disturbing. Oh, you forgot my favorite homage to Catalonia.
Starting point is 00:57:12 What a book, says Flavio. Is that a Hemingley? Is that a book or is it a short story? And from Daryl in Houston, going back to Lucy, FYI, not leaky. Lucy is a female of the hominine species, Australopithecus aphyrinsis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:43 It was discovered in 1974 in Ethiopia at Hadar, a site awash in the Awash Valley of the Afar Triangle, by Donald Johansen, a paleoanthropologist of the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. Excellent book, Lucy, the beginnings of humankind. Not leaky. Well, what was that business about 1967 there? Oh, well. But I think, yeah, I think you're right, Daryl.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And so speaking of stealing content, Ben Stiller is pissed, and he's got the whore, I mean, White House in a dither and maggots along with it because Stiller is pissed off for the White House having used a clip from Tropic Thunder to promote the war that Israel, our partner in peace, dragged us into, you know, because Nittuette was a fucking toddler. He said, hey, White House, please remove the tropic thunderclip. We never gave you permission and have no interest in being part of your propaganda machine.
Starting point is 00:59:30 War is not a movie, prompting Don Jr. I'm sure still remembers being slapped around by his daddy. He said, Never go full retard, Ben. I'd be careful how I fling that word around traitor tot. And then a conspiracy goon from Canada, Liz Churchill, said, Shut up! And some other maggot idiot.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Tony Siruga posted an excrement on X-ing. Sorry, Ben, but I believe Paramount, now Paramount Skydance Corporation, retained the rights, maybe give David Ellison a call. The clip in particular, the White House posting on its official account, Justice, the American Way, using a clip, a supercut, not just of Tropic Thunder, but of several movies because they're thieves.
Starting point is 01:01:02 They don't care from whom they steal. They may have asked an LLM to do this for them. Wake up, Daddy Shome. Welcome to him, so. Strengthen honor. Strength and honor. What will you do without freedom? Maverick's inbound.
Starting point is 01:01:21 You can't conceive of what I'm capable of. Finishing this fight. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. I'm here to fight the truth and justice in the American way. I am the danger. Time to find out Maxwell Method Wallace victory
Starting point is 01:01:46 The White House President Donald J. Trump Jesus, what a bunch of gooners but the suckers and losers will pay the price. Remember, that's what he calls members of the United States military. Suckers and losers.
Starting point is 01:02:17 They won't show us how the six military personnel who were killed in a drone strike by Iran died, not sitting there blazing away from an ACAC gun or whatever, but maybe just showering or sitting down to chowl, because that wouldn't be good for the white house's attempts to characterize this incredibly stupid, dirty, filthy,
Starting point is 01:03:00 illegal war. And every time the White House does this, they think they're trolling. But what they're doing is they are, again, from yesterday, strisanding effect themselves. And the fact that they're a bunch of goddamn posers. The United States didn't need this kind of propaganda in World War II. We had Fox movie-tone news that ran before the movies in an Arabian. before television. We had newspaper reporting.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Journalists like Ernie Pyle, whom the ordinary work a day, soldiers and sailors and Marines, absolutely loved for his candor. Well, there can't be any candor with this
Starting point is 01:04:17 because the entire filthy war is a fraud. And now, well, now the chickens maybe beginning to come home to Roos because earlier today, the Nitwit Nero and others had to go and harang weapons manufacturers to
Starting point is 01:04:46 build this more blow-up shit. Fast. And of course, it's Friday. Once upon a time, we saw this as the end of the work week. Now, not so much you go to sleep on Friday night or
Starting point is 01:05:13 early Saturday morning and you don't know but when you wake up we will have started illegal hostilities in some other portion of the planet do we have any idea where oh okay thank you for the correction Flavio Orwell homage to Catalonia A I couldn't write that either
Starting point is 01:05:44 it was his lived experience during the Spanish Civil War obligatory twilight zone reference coming from lea new york the brain center at whipples with robbie the robot um steve says i still disagree i can explain on the porch okay um i mean there's a reason english majors do so well in law school yours truly was one of them i mean not you know order of the coiff for law review or anything but damned if i couldn't write is it live or is it memorax from brother deacon asa Don't worry about it. Concade, your Memorex joke is not at risk of going over the audience's head. Nobody's listening who hasn't had a digital rectal exam in their life yet.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Ew. Ew. Those days are over for me. Hey. No, that's distressing indeed. Yeah, got your note. No, so I'm sorry, I got distracted for a moment. Happens.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Let me fire up the Discord, sir. over here for the old holler tree so we can head over there in a moment. But where next? I saw something earlier today that gives me an idea. You remember the pretext for our illegal invasion of Venezuela? Oh, this wasn't a military operation. This was a law enforcement operate. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:08:22 That's the ticket. Well, over at MS now. Carol Lenig and Jake Trailer saw the same story and apparently the nitwit Nero laughably named
Starting point is 01:08:40 Justice Department is trying to indict officials of the Cuban government with Lenig and Trailer writing a Justice Department led effort to seek to prosecute leaders of the communist nation on the nation's southern flank
Starting point is 01:08:59 but AI write that has been ongoing since mid-February, which could help propel a change in Cuba's leadership. The U.S. Attorney in Miami, Jason Redding Quignones, I wonder if he was in any of those group chats that used all those words we talked about yesterday, created the multi-agency working group, emphasizing internally that it had an urgent goal
Starting point is 01:09:26 find and pursue leaders of the Cuban government or communist party for prosecutable violations of federal, law. Wow. So people who aren't American citizens who are not present in the territorial confines of the United States well never mind.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Law enforcement sources said they fear this approach marks a dramatic break from the Justice Department's standards for prosecuting crimes. The authors continued, which have long required that federal investigators have some evidence or intelligence to suspect a specific crime has occurred before opening an investigation. In the past, federal prosecutors or FBI agents have launched similar multi-agency working groups
Starting point is 01:10:15 when they have information suggesting a pattern of criminal activity and want to broaden their effort to determine the specific people responsible, former prosecutors told MS now. You know, if one is young enough, this might all sound new. It isn't. anybody here remember the downing street memo what was that fit the facts to the propaganda something along those lines a fancy way of saying if we can't find a casus belly we will make one the hell up god so who knows we may wake up tomorrow morning or a week from tomorrow and find out that we're going to attempt Bay of Pigs 2.0, part dur, the adventure continues. God, I'm mighty.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Okay. Well, like I said, we are $2,070 away from being fully funded up to the end of this first week in March. We have, we still have $570 to go to finish funding for, last February for last week. That's all of Friday and $270 of Thursday. If we can knock some of that down, it would take a great deal of stress. If we could knock all of that down,
Starting point is 01:12:12 it would take a ton of stress off of your umbel oastus. So I don't know what else I can say. If I thought I could fund this program on my charm Beauty, you can bet your ass I would be, but it doesn't seem to work out that way. Hey, Jeremy, how are you? Wrong button. The other one being Peter Cohen, who's famous for being the voice of Optimus Prime for 40 years. None of those three men are well-known maggots. The only problem is, all the things they've starred in, with the exception of Transformers in the cartoon, are Paramount Properties.
Starting point is 01:13:03 So unfortunately, they probably cannot sue for it. They will not like it, but we know who owns Paramount now? So they're safe for playing that clip whether people like it, including Tropic Thunder. Because even though Ben Stiller wrote it, he signed away its rights when Paramount published it.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So they're fucked, it sucks. But they can do that, and they're probably going to go away Scott free with it. Ugh. Gross. It's just to be out of the way Hollywood, it sucks. Just like with your music.
Starting point is 01:13:31 The most part, when a record really publishes your music, they own your catalog until you buy it back, like Taylor Swifted and several artists have been smart over the years, and doubled their money in doing so. But when they publish you, they retain the rights to your music, therefore, forward.
Starting point is 01:13:48 But it still has a stric end effect insofar as, you know, they're thieves. And people like Ben Stiller are making that plain. Yes, and I'm sure some other people, when they hear, maybe not Jack Nicholson, I hear he's not doing too well. They say he's in the throes of a mentor or something like that in his older age, unfortunately, or something like that. but the other two maybe. Tom Cruise has famously now said no to the county center, O'Hunter's saying, nope, I've got other things to do, sorry, can't make it, whenever else went.
Starting point is 01:14:18 He wouldn't go. Good on him. Oh, by the way, yeah, the Kennedy Center has more problems because the National Symphony Orchestra has bugged out, as well as its executive director, Gene Davidson. She's going to head the Wallace Amherstead. Cannonburg Center in Beverly Hills in May instead. And, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Maybe Nitwit Nero can get Lee Greenwood to cobble together a kazoo band. Well, I mean, this is just a start of it. I remember last summer, I told you we have a famous library here up in northern Vermont, which straddles the Canadian border, literally goes halfway through the building. And there's a famous Canadian artist, or not say artist, it gets artist, but she's an author who wrote a lot of a big series of books which a lot of Americans followed. And she would come to that library
Starting point is 01:15:15 and she would do a joint venture between Americans and Canadians in that library's presentation hall. And she used to come to America a lot. And she said, frankly, last summer, she said, I will not step foot in America or any of American properties until that man's gone. Which is a blow because she's a pretty well-known celebrity around here anyway, because she's from that side of the border right there in Quebec.
Starting point is 01:15:39 But, I mean, she's just won a dozens of hundreds. at this point. Probably thousands. And I don't know if you heard last night, but what was it? Turkey went on red alert, and the UN was activated slightly to a higher level of alertness because Iran was firing into Turkey. Yeah, which Iran said, oh, no, we were not.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And I'm glad you said something because it's confirmation, well, a lot of what you say is confirmation bias. I mean, in a positive way, obviously. But you said something I've been echoing all of yesterday. And I hate the side of Christy Noam, because I think she's a special word we can't say right now,
Starting point is 01:16:21 but she earns that title over and over again. But I believe her when she said that Donald signed off on the 200 million ad company. I do too. I believe she was telling the truth. He just didn't like the cake being put on his face is the blame. She told the truth and paid the price for it. On top of everything else, he didn't like it because she dirtied him by telling the truth. Right, but the maggots in the house will gladly barbecue her ass and molasses
Starting point is 01:16:46 on a perjury wrap to cover for their larcenous daddy yeah and I think you're spot on about oh I can think who's in her name right now the district attorney I think she'll do the same thing I mean she will
Starting point is 01:17:06 Oh Joe Joe Bondi She'll no She'll fry any when she can to save her ass and protect Donnie I mean this this business about trying to reverse engineer a reason to attack Cuba. And meanwhile,
Starting point is 01:17:28 according to one published source today, the Times, in London, Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime in a couple of weeks. The president promised Jorge Moss, the Cuban-American owner of Inter-Miamy, that he would
Starting point is 01:17:50 be going to go back to the island after its fall. And I know they're not in our best thoughts at this time. but I don't know if you heard. I think it was last week the week before, there was another border agent shooting. Real border engine, not ice, real border patrols, trying to do, you know, normal stuff, protect the border,
Starting point is 01:18:12 and made a stop on the interstate somewhere. I want to say in New Hampshire, I don't think the officer was killed, and I think they captured the suspect. But they've tied this suspect that they arrested for shooting this officer to the same group of, basically, it's a cult who killed the officer here last January. It's the same group of people.
Starting point is 01:18:30 what they're called, but they're like an end-day cult, basically. Oh, you mean Armageddon types? His kind of people? Yes, it's the same cult that killed the officer here three hours in the Trump's reign last year, right on the border when they made a stop of them, and they fired, and they still haven't really specified who made the shot. We thought for a long time that it might have been,
Starting point is 01:18:56 unfortunately, in this case, friendly fire because there was multiple officers, and they never said who did it, but they've charged to the woman they have an arrest now with murder of an agent even though they haven't said she shot him the other guy's dead but it was this but their thing is all the same cult but other than all that I really don't have any trying to think if there's anything else really
Starting point is 01:19:16 happening here I mean I and I was glad to see a eye patch in Texas get his sick of Dan Crenshaw he's so jelly spine is not even funny he'll one day he'll say something which actually kind of makes a little bit sense against Trump and then the next minute he'll be looking back lock
Starting point is 01:19:32 I'm glad to see him done. Unfortunately, he's been replaced with someone worse, just like Kristineau. Well, yeah. Mark Wayne is ten times worse than her, and even less qualified than she ever was. Yeah, and not a hot mama either, and doesn't, and doesn't have any goats or puppies killed to his credit. Right. Oh, and by the way, speaking of maggots, takes ass maggots. Oh, who was the...
Starting point is 01:20:03 Was it, is it Gonzalez? Yeah, he has bowed out of his primary now, having read the writing on the wall, you know, after having driven his aide whom he was sex pestering to set fire to herself and kill herself. Yeah, he's going to spend more time with his family now, and he's awfully proud of his three terms in the Congress. In other words, he's been there long enough to get his fucking pants. And I think we need to stress this about the Texas races now. We need to let everything go that just happened. You can remember it, be mad about it, get behind the Democrat.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Jasmine Crock has already done it. Good for her. She's moving to a chill campaign for him. We need to all lockstep with her. Stop bitching. It's over. Get him elected to knock out asshole. Yeah, and hope that Cornyn and Paxton just beat the shit out of each other.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Right. Because the maggots who support Paxton are pissy and bitchy enough that they would throw a fit and stay home. Really? Whichever of y'all wins the primary, the other one's supporters, stay home, teach him a lesson. Say what you want about Torrico, but he reminds me an awful lot of John Fiegel saying. He actually uses the Bible the way it should be to beat up these creeps. he tells them how they're bastardizing. And by the way, if you haven't read it, and everyone's sudden read it here, what is it?
Starting point is 01:21:41 I'm trying to think. The book John Fingleson put out this year, Church and Hate or whatever it is, the separation of church and hate, was audiobook of the year last year over all the spectrums of audiobooks. So people like it. It's a good book.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Not the good book, but it's a good book. Cool. And, well, more than anything else, James Tolariko, it's eerie how his verbal cadences, vocal cadences, are almost an overlay of those of Obama. It's like he studied Obama's speech patterns. You can shut your eyes and almost hear Obama. Very well may have. I mean, Obama's one of those guys who's rushed under the power of speech, and kind of like Bill Clinton. I don't care what he's talking about.
Starting point is 01:22:37 listen to a talk because he talks well precise, got a cadence to it and occasionally he throws in a story, makes you laugh or cry, but I listen to him and he says, I listen read the Bible, the way Obama talks honestly. But anyway, enough with me, get to Roger, I'm going back to work. I'm a little behind again.
Starting point is 01:22:54 No big deal, though. Sounds good, Jeremy. Talking a little bit. Before we go to Roger, I do have a clip here, and I want to run it because this goes back to that story from the times of london about nitwit nero saying he's
Starting point is 01:23:12 ready to start another war because he's pissed off that he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize 79 year old baby so this happened on cnn this morning outers are watching and of course as the clock ticks questions over their energy production what to do with all that oil if they can't export it. There is a clock running on these things.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Nick Robertson in Riyadh, stand by, if you will. We also have Jeremy Diamond standing by in the Israel-Lebanon border. Jeremy, if you can hang on just a second, because we have Dana Bash with us right now. And Dana, I understand you just got off the phone with President Trump. What did you hear from him? I did, John. Good morning. He just broadly speaking, he insists that on a scale of 10, with 10 being the best, he thinks that the war is, I would say, at 12, maybe 15. He said that the U.S. is doing very well militarily, quote, better than anybody could have dreamed. He said that he rebuilt the military in his first term.
Starting point is 01:24:23 He's using it in his second. And then he quickly turned to Cuba. He said, without being asked, Cuba is going to fall pretty soon, by the way, but Cuba is going to fall. They want to make a deal so badly. And I asked how so. He said, they want to make a deal, so I'm going to put Marco over there, and we'll see how that works. But we're really focused on this one now, meaning Iran, we've got plenty of time on Cuba. Just more quickly on, obviously, what's going on with Iran.
Starting point is 01:24:54 And you were just talking about this with our colleagues in the region. I asked about rising gas prices. And he said, that's all right. It'll be short term. It'll go way down very quickly. And I said, well, they're pretty high now. And he said, no, they're up a little bit, not much, but it'll drop to record lows.
Starting point is 01:25:14 And so I asked, well, does this mean that you're going to figure out the Strait of Hormuz soon? Again, something you were just talking about. He said, quote, it's already figured out. We've knocked their Navy because, you know, when you knock out the Navy, they can't. do what they wanted to be able to do. The Navy is almost, he said, we just hit the 25 mark. Can you imagine that, big ones? 25 ships are down. We're doing very well. And John, just real quick,
Starting point is 01:25:42 I also asked about the Gulf countries being hit. He said they're doing unbelievable and they're fighting. They, meaning Iran, made a terrible mistake when they attack them. The UAE is freezing the assets and they have the assets, all of them, and they got hit enough where they were going to freeze them. They're brave people. I do want to tell you one other important thing. Jesus Christ, he has no idea what's going on whatsoever. He discussed with me, and it was about a five-minute discussion, and that is who the next leader of Iran will be. You know, he told our colleague, Barack Ravid, yesterday that he had like three people in mind, and that he he wants to pick the person and I asked him about that.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I said, how's that going to work? And he said, it's going to work very easily. It's going to work like it did in Venezuela. We have a wonderful leader there. She's doing a fantastic job and it's going to work like that. And I said, okay, but are you okay with having a religious leader again, a different Ayatollah? And he said, well, I may be, yeah. I mean, it depends on who the person is.
Starting point is 01:26:50 I don't mind religious leaders. I deal with a lot of religious leaders, and they're fantastic. And then he went on to say, I'm saying there has to be a leader that's going to be fair and just, do a great job, treat the United States and Israel well, and treat other countries in the Middle East. They're all our partners. So that was the gist of our discussion. And the dude who's on camera listening to hard-hitting investigative television, Broadcast journalist Dana Batch
Starting point is 01:27:24 has a look on his face like a cow looking at a new gate. But much as was the case when the member of Congress asked Krusty the nasty Nazi gnome if she was making the ficky thick with sex pest
Starting point is 01:27:44 Corey Lewandowski and she said everything but no with her husband sitting right there behind her our one man, one wo man, upstanding Bible, believe in God fear, and Christ-centered evil, jellical, gundamil, and homosexual, Christian husband.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Well, as Dana Bash noted, she didn't ask him about Cuba. He volunteered that we were going to attack Cuba. He's out of control. He's just out of control. Sorry about that, Roger. Didn't mean to interrupt, but thanks for, well,
Starting point is 01:28:30 giving me time to run that clip. Didn't interrupt me because I hadn't said anything yet. No, but Jeremy had handed it off to you and I jumped in Medias race. And that's fine. I don't have a hell of a lot. But regarding Jasmine Crockett, my understanding is there is another Senate seat coming up in two years. And if the nominee this time takes it and Jasmine Crockett just kind of keeps her public fake, alive she should be in great shape to take the Democratic nomination in two years
Starting point is 01:29:08 and in two years I feel Trump well I don't know what's going to happen after the midterms it kind of depends on that but if for some reason Trump continues his bowled at China shop kind of activities I could see the 2030 elections being a second blue wave and would throw her in after the two years and help with the reconstruction. It's going to be necessary. Now, on a rather sad note, everybody knows that the Coast Guard takes all kinds of risks and they have to go out, they don't have to come back, and they do it in any kind of weather
Starting point is 01:29:50 and all the rest of it. I'm sad to report that a rescue swimmer out of, I think it was that story of Oregon. Might have been further up in off Washington, about two, three, three, three, three, days ago got severely injured had to be further north off of Washington got severely injured was flown to British Columbia for medical treatment and has to come to his injuries in trying to rescue a stroke victim off a ship out of sea I have no details of what the accident was or anything else that caused the injuries but another Coast Guard who has died in the line of duty trying to save
Starting point is 01:30:31 lives and poor property. So I doubt that it will make the national news. And I do feel sorry for those poor bathrooms that are sitting down a child hall or taking a shower or something else. And a missile came raining down on them. And they will get their military honors and their purple hearts and their parents will get their $10 or $20,000 or $30,000 life insurance payment that every service person's family gets, and Trump will move on and steal another medal from somebody else and all the red hat wearing assholes will jump up and down and cheer. Anyhow, I've been incredibly busy with the Master Food Preserver stuff.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I listen to the radio a bit. I get so pissed off that just... I'm still kind of in my break number. I'm harassing people on Facebook every once in a while and stuff like that. But actually this was a third week today. I didn't make it to the demonstration out in front of the VA because we got sent off on an errand for the after food preserver folk to get supplies for the class we're teaching tomorrow on jam and jelly making for the black. caucus initiative. There's a local group here in Eugene, and this will be the second time we have put on a class just for them. And this one's going to be people, and they're going to bring their kids. And we don't, not quite sure how everything's going to work.
Starting point is 01:32:15 We don't normally teach kids jam and jellymaking, but we're also teaching the parents. But apparently the last time we gave a lesson, they took it as adults only. And people couldn't come because they couldn't come up with child care. So they asked if they could bring their kids. So tomorrow's going to be one hell of it experience on teaching a family's class with kids running around. And we're already paranoid about pots on the stone and people not walking around with knives because adults couldn't have problems and that kind of stuff. Anyhow, tomorrow's going to be a real interesting day, and I'll give you an update on it next week. Well, hopefully, Roger, they're not helicopter parents.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Well, we'll just see what happens. But anyhow, the parents are the ones that are supposed to be learning the class. We're not supposed to be teaching the kids. We're supposed to be teaching the parents. So the kids might get a little bit bored and have a few problems at our facility, which is a church. But anyhow, it's, you know, and it really doesn't matter with black or white. I mean, you've got some 20, 30-somethings with kids, and the parents get busy, and the kids somehow aren't being supervised, and we're all busy trying to teach the parents.
Starting point is 01:33:47 I just have an uncanny knack of somehow getting themselves in trouble when they're unsupervised because that's just being a kid. I got in trouble a whole lot when I was a little kid. And, anyway, it should be an interesting day tomorrow. I think your wife is missing a golden opportunity to say, fuck the kids.
Starting point is 01:34:08 What's this jam making? My wife is the one who takes care of the kitchen, and I deal with out on a table. So we're both real busy. We're both real busy when we do these classes. You do get the reference of course. please yeah and now that the new uh coordinator is in her first year and really doesn't know what's going on uh normally you stay in your own county that the reason i've gone on
Starting point is 01:34:41 wednesdays is because i'm up in four of alice oregon uh assisting and teaching the class of there and then i get to come here to eugene and do the same class all over again on Thursday and now we've got an extra one thrown in on Saturday. So my life is being consumed with my volunteer service. But it keeps me busy, keeps me from just sitting here in my little cubby hole back room and sitting at the computer and getting stiffer and soar and all the rest of that stuff. But anyhow, I really don't have any of the, everybody in this room and it listens to this program knows the shit that's going on and Robin talks about it much better than I can
Starting point is 01:35:29 so I'm just going to pass it on and you're listening but unless something really tweaks me I'll just sit back and listen like I normally do sounds fair Steve give us an update on your travels who me yeah or your plan to move or yeah still I still I still I I'm just still working towards the move. I have some good leads on some jobs back in in Columbus, actually. I have a friend of mine who knows the hiring person at one of the places I'm looking at, has some connections on some of the companies I'm looking at back there. I actually ended up expanding my job search.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And yes, I am going to look into doing some in-house council stuff back in Ohio. because I found out the, I don't have to get admitted to the bar to do that, which is nice. All I would have to do is basically fill out a one-page application, get a certificate of good standing from New York, and, of course, pay a $1,000 fee for the application. Of course. Yeah, that would be just about all there was to it. So I'm looking forward to that. So that's kind of where that's going. So yeah, I'm just doing the best I can.
Starting point is 01:37:04 A little bit frustrated right now. I really want this move to happen. I need this move to happen because it's being in New York is impacting my mental health. I just had it. I don't know if anyone heard me talk in the past about being mugged twice. Well, I was mugged twice. Then I had another instance the other day where it didn't happen to me, but I was on the train or the subway slash train in the morning
Starting point is 01:37:31 and this lady gets on and she's doing her Jesus spiel, you know, Jesus loves you and she's preaching, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this guy stands up and punches her right in the face. And it's just, those things have become very triggering to me. And it makes it very difficult for me to ride the subway. I'm doing some contract work for the city of New York and two of the days of the week
Starting point is 01:38:03 we're supposed to be able to work at home and I frankly don't like working at home but I started thinking about it today and I like working at home more than I like taking the subway so I end up working at home even when I don't really want to but other than that I'm
Starting point is 01:38:22 plugging away at getting the hell out of here Well, we're rooting for you that it comes sooner rather than later. Oh, as am I. So are you still looking, you expanded the scope of your search. Are you still looking in the greater Cebus area? I'm only looking in Columbus. I'm not looking anywhere else.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Yeah. I've seen some jobs in Cincinnati, but I don't want to, I wouldn't mind living in Cincinnati because Cincinnati's gotten a little bit more sane recently as they've gotten a little bit bluer as a city. not much, but a little bit bluer as a city, so I wouldn't mind living there, but I want to live in Columbus, because that's where my core of really good friends are. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Although, you know, it's not that bad a drive from Columbus to Cincinnati to take in a Reds game. No, not that bad at all. I just don't want to live there. I understand. And you know what? Long and long ago,
Starting point is 01:39:26 shortly after the close of the Second World War, my father, still a young man at the time, would get on a train right here and ride it to Cincinnati and meet up with his best buddy from the Navy and they would go to Reds games. That was how they kept the friendship going. And that was also where my father...
Starting point is 01:39:54 You know, the union station, the train station in Cincinnati had fallen into terrible decay and disrepair, but it was eventually saved. And I remember when, I was a kid, there was a story about the union station there in Cincinnati and the decay and the disrepair. And it just broke my father's heart because he said it was the most beautiful building
Starting point is 01:40:17 he had ever seen in his life. And train stations... I've heard good things about it because I think it was built during the New Deal. Yeah, it was, and just gorgeous. And, you know, train stations were like secular temples to modernity. And my father happened to walk in there to get a beer in the bar in Union Station when, lo and behold, who was just sitting a few seats down at Lena Horn? And he would, in his later years, he's, I think she was the most beautiful woman I'd ever seen.
Starting point is 01:40:56 in my life. And the bartender, who was black, was absolutely beside himself. Yes, ma'am, Miss Horn. No, ma'am, Miss Horn. Would you like another drink, Miss Horn on the house, Miss Horn?
Starting point is 01:41:13 That's funny. Yeah, but I don't know. Well, yeah, the train does still run to Cincinnati from here. Might meet you for a Reds game, Steve. Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:41:27 That would be awesome, in fact. It's not quite the same as our long-contemplated SEC football game, but that would be, I still think that'd be pretty damn awesome. Yeah, I think that would, I definitely want that to happen too. And I would like it to happen absent Cailin DeBore. When there's a coach in Alabama worthy of the school. You still think he's a marked man? Oh, he's horrible. Dead man walking.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Dead man walking. Apple on a road map, just awaiting. Yeah, I have, here's, I'll say, one phrase regarding that, 38 to three. Humilarating. Yeah, he totally humiliating. But you know what? I want to talk real quick about the writing stuff. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:29 I thought you might. I think legal writing is far... The problem is most legal writing is just complete garbage. It's riddled with adjectives and adverbs and passive voice and people who don't actually stop and think, hey, there's a simpler way to do this. And if people stopped and thought there's a simpler way to do this, it would be far more explanatory.
Starting point is 01:42:56 You wouldn't have to have paragraphs that were one sentence. You could put everything very simple and very short, choppy sentences that would say the same thing and make it completely understandable. The problem is lawyers. The problem is not legal writing. Okay, that's fair. That's not a hill I'm going to die on. Because, and again, in the past, you have shown me examples from the
Starting point is 01:43:25 vaunted bar of the state of New York and it's like yes Jesus this is terrible yeah that's really really bad and I've read contract I mean one of the one of the things I'm doing right now is doing no I don't do any litigation I do all contract drafting contracts negotiating contracts
Starting point is 01:43:44 and I'm astonished at this shit that people what's clear to me what happened is is that people write something and then people look at it and they add stuff and they add stuff and they put more own there and nobody ever stops to think wait a minute how can we say the same thing much simpler they don't ever think yeah but sometimes sometimes it's a matter of complexity of ideas i mean you and i are both practitioners of the art of word knowing and we've been word knowing for a significant portion of our lives and sometimes you need that level of detail the the the example
Starting point is 01:44:25 I always give is Madison's Federalist number 10 Mm-hmm It's You know It's ahead of its time in terms of It would be a generation or so
Starting point is 01:44:40 Before Before Charles Dickens was getting paid by the letter And Adams was Adams, Madison was just trying to make himself clear But
Starting point is 01:44:56 that there are paragraphs there that I read it, and I have to go back and read it again, and make sure that I've got all the clauses as dependent and independent, strung together in proper order so that I can actually understand what the little fellow was trying to say. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:14 And my whole thing is I don't think that's necessary to do for good legal writing. Most of the time, yeah. Okay, I will concede that point most of the time. I think for the most part, legal writing is horrible because lawyers don't ever stop and think, how do we make this readable for regular people to read it and understand it? See, I had legal writing professors who implored me to write like Hemingway, not Faulkner. Nobody should write like Faulkner if you want to be understandable.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I've read Sound of Fury. I know what that's like. but the number of people who want to and it's funny there was at least the way I experienced there was a there was a demarcation the English majors who had done some creative writing
Starting point is 01:46:16 tended to write more clearly than the engineers because the engineers wanted to account for every possible eventuality like engineers do. And so, curiously, you got more Faulkner out of the engineers than you did out of the English
Starting point is 01:46:35 majors. Makes perfect sense. I think part of the issue might be the way that legal writing is taught, though, to having just gone through it. 100%. Legal writing is yeah, I mean, it's taught to
Starting point is 01:46:54 we're taught to we're taught to use words to convince other people of of something they don't already, you know, think or believe. But at no point ever, when I was learning legal writing, was there ever a mention of considering how other people receive words? It's interesting and odd to me that in a profession and a practice that is all about communication
Starting point is 01:47:30 and using words to make points and argument. that we never actually we never actually just discuss the fact that most of communication is how people receive things Oh, that's brilliant. And not how they're stated.
Starting point is 01:47:47 And then at the same time, too, law school itself saps, I mean, just the pedagogy saps people of empathy so that we're literally training out. the skill of being able to being able to place ourselves in other people's shoes
Starting point is 01:48:12 to like hear, to imagine how they're receiving the words that we're saying. Very well said, David. Very well said. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because what other what other what writer, what poet, what prose stylist doesn't write for their audience. But legal writing isn't really that way, is it?
Starting point is 01:48:52 No. I mean, we're not taught to write for anyone other than, like, other lawyers. And we're actually taught, like, we're actually taught that all lawyers want to view, want to read things in the exact same way, which is why legal writing is so structured and why it's so formulaic. And hidebound. Please don't leave out hidebound. All lawyers want everything exactly the same in the exact same way.
Starting point is 01:49:27 When that's absolutely not true. But that's what we're taught. And it doesn't, you know, it doesn't, formulaic way of writing. Yeah, it doesn't have to. Yeah. It doesn't have to be that way. I think about the archaic forms of pleading and how all the little alarms and sirens and claxons and bells and whistles went off in my head
Starting point is 01:49:52 when I would see the way that the lawyers that I was studying under once I was, you know, like clerking and working in an office and stuff, would craft something, you know, and the, oh dear God, we're off in the weeds, aren't we? You know, the rules of civil procedure, the federal rules are pretty straightforward. a lawsuit shall consist of a summons and a complaint and et cetera and I can't tell you how many lawsuits I opened and it said you know you got the caption you got the style and then you know complaint with a space bold underlined with a space between every letter which just makes life more miserable for whoever's typing it, presumptively, you know, a paralegal or a legal secretary, or in this case, a clerk.
Starting point is 01:50:49 So you have to turn on underline, turn on bold, type the letter C, turn off bold, turn off underline, hit the space bar, turn underline back on, turn bold back on, type the letter O. And it's at least five minutes to type the word complaint. And meanwhile, if you've got like your auto-justify on, it completely fucks with that. But that's one aspect. And then the next phrase, David, I don't know, maybe you've never seen it.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Steve, I don't know if you have. I wonder if Billable has. I don't because I don't write that way. Comes now the defendant. I don't write that. Comes now the plaintiff. Comes now your plaintiff who for his. complaint alleges and and declares to this honorable court that colon paragraph one again it's i
Starting point is 01:51:54 have a legal writing professor who said right like hemingway not like faulkner and so we tried that once or twice he's like nope we're not going to do that anymore we are in the latter parts of the 20th the fucking century and if you want to write like that do it with a goddamn quill pen uh and hire a scrivener. So, you know, it... I would prefer not to. I prefer not. You understand Bartleby so much better when you've crafted a few legal pleadings under
Starting point is 01:52:28 some guy who, you know, was taught by some guy who was taught by some guy, and then the next thing you know, you're in the middle of the 17th century. So instead, paragraph one, the plaintiff is name, period. The plaintiff resides at address, period. Or actually comma in blank county, period. And any other identifying information necessary to the cause of action. But to this day, even with things like electronic filing, comes now your plaintiff and for their petition, their complaint, whatever,
Starting point is 01:53:07 pleads to this noble serene high and majestic, gracious, gracious court as follows colon. And that shit will give you the fantods. I never wrote like that. Ever. Did you ever see it? Maybe, but I laughed at people who wrote like that. I would say,
Starting point is 01:53:35 Dutch representing Dutch plaintiff alleges as follows. that's it comes now your defendant for her answer to the plaintiff's complaint and alleges and avers as follows paragraph one
Starting point is 01:53:52 nah a paragraph two shut up paragraphs 1 through 79 are referenced herein and incorporated by reference as if alleged more fully herein
Starting point is 01:54:08 shut up But it's not like I didn't warn you about this, David. You did. We were on the phone. We did it across a picnic table at the hornet. They're going to take your little brains out, and they're going to chop them up and mix them all back together and put them back in your little skull and say, no, you've still got a brain. It just thinks differently now. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:54:35 I know. And the thing is, like, even though I heard that, I couldn't fully comprehend it until I got to loss. school. And that's the, that's the thing with law school. You can't really fully comprehend what it is until you're in it. There's like really, in my experience, no real good way to explain what happens in law school to someone who has not been in law school. It's, I mean, I think, yeah, I think you're, I think you're right because, you know, I even remember saying, David, it's not too late. You can still be the piano player in a whorehouse. right and like i had a conversation with um the executive director of the LGBT center in san diego when i was
Starting point is 01:55:28 working there when i told them that i was moving on to come to law school and like she was trying like her advice to me was like find your people early and i'm like okay but like it's almost like she didn't really want to tell me exactly you know, how awful the experience was. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I did not enjoy law school. It's hard to say anyone does, but you come away with a couple of good friends, maybe, and some interesting experiences.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Part of it's like the weird social dynamic. like you're all cooped together in this for me it was like the way my law school operated anyway was like we had we I had a class of like 120 120 people that were divided into two sections and we had all of our all of our classes with our section so how so we spent the entire first year of law school with like 60 other people in this like high pressure environment and like all of our time was spent with these 60 people so by the time second year comes around we're like we don't know anybody else on campus because we've spent our entire first year with just these people and it's like we're excluded from the outside world because we're in this first
Starting point is 01:57:16 year of law school this intense experience it's almost like we're We were, like, thrown together. And, like, in this weird social experiment, it was so weird. It was worse than high school, you know, like the gossip and the backstabbing. Oh, yeah, and you've always, you know, you've always got the suckups and the kissups and kickdowns and the people who come to law school. And it's like life will not be worth living if they're not editor of the law review or head of the moot court board. and you know life is over if I don't make order of the coith and those people are unbearable
Starting point is 01:57:56 the gunners was what they were called on my at my oh what a good word yeah don't be a gunner but you're right what's wrong with me that my experience wasn't anything like this maybe you got into a better school right okay
Starting point is 01:58:22 because if you get the more high pollutants school you get into, you'll have some of that, but as long as you're coming out with a highfalutin degree, it matters. For people who go to state schools and small schools, things like that, the only way, supposedly you have a chance is if you come out of there with honors. I mean, it was really wild. 75 miles up the road from Harvard on the Mon was Duquesne, or as we lovingly referred to it, Duquesne.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Duquesne. Duquesne. Yes. And that, of course, was a Jesuit school. I took some summer classes there, and I had to, you know, drive up from Morgantown. There were a couple other classmates who were doing the same. We were trying to get out early. And, you know, I had to sit in that classroom looking at that,
Starting point is 01:59:20 looking at that poor Palestinian day laborer hanging up on that cross, And it's like, you know, he got down, right? Great classes, but the thing was, if you survived your first year, you were going to graduate somewhere between a GPA of 2.8 and 4.0. Great inflation. Whereas, you know, back at Harvard on the Mon, you know, coal miners' kids and shit, some lawyers kids. we had to scrap for every freaking point because nobody was getting nothing for free we didn't have great inflation we had great deflation
Starting point is 02:00:04 nothing was ever good enough but by the way David with regard to what you said what you said oh darn it where to go about find your people Yeah Tamara said
Starting point is 02:00:34 It kills me that David was working at the LGBT Let's try that again with the rented lips Find your people Tamara says kills me that David was working at the LGBT Plus Center Which is just a short walk from my place Good friend went to law school at USD And knew on day one
Starting point is 02:00:52 That he hated it Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean it's It's more of an indoctrination than it is an education. I literally had to seek other sources of information. I felt like I,
Starting point is 02:01:12 the fact that I'm kind of an autodidact helped me insofar as like if something didn't make sense, I went outside of the curriculum to like try to find something to make sense of what I was learning. I never, thankfully, I don't think I ever lost my ability to critically think, which is what law school tries to drill out of people in an attempt to replace that with, like you said, a rigid system of, like, rights and duties, and that everyone is exactly the same,
Starting point is 02:01:56 and there's no deviation from the standard. And if there's a deviation from the standard, it's the problem of that individual not conforming their conduct to the standard of the reasonable man, right? And it's always a man. That problem child of the law. And so it's like, I mean, not everyone is, I mean, not everyone's the same. And so the fact that we have to apply the same analysis in the same world, way every time to every case in every instance, it's not realistic.
Starting point is 02:02:39 And thus we have a whole system of what they call legal fictions. A corporation is a person, but it isn't really a person. It's just one of those legal fictions. That's an artful way of saying we're going to lie to ourselves to make this make sense. Which is what a lot of, which is what we're taught. to do, honestly. And then by the time, I mean, I'm of the opinion that a judge can convince themselves of anything.
Starting point is 02:03:14 They're human. Of course they can. Because, and I'm desperately trying, not to lose the ability to evaluate my own assumptions, but it's difficult now. It's maddening. I find it more difficult now to do that. Because not only do, not only are we trained to, like, not only are we trained to, like, not only are we trained to, like, not critically think and to just accept the analysis and the method
Starting point is 02:03:46 of thinking that they try to instill in us in law school. But they also, like, they also teach us that to, like, project confidence and, like, pretend that we're right all the time, even if we aren't. You know, there's no better example of that, David, than originalism. Can you say more about that? Because I think I understand you, but I'm not... Well, originalism, there's nothing original about originalism. Originalism
Starting point is 02:04:26 Isam Originalism is something that some right-wing pedig fogger came up with to explain why
Starting point is 02:04:35 hidebound conservative legal principles should always rule the day. It's a con. It's a grift. But watch any Supreme Court confirmation hearing
Starting point is 02:04:49 and you'll find people on both sides of the political spectrum just assuming that originalism is a legitimate thing. And I kind of feel the same way about textualism. In my mind, there are two sides of the same coin. Right, and we will throw the coin into the goddamn sewer grate
Starting point is 02:05:15 the minute that it's no longer convenient. Right, right. I wanted to share something with you because, you know, you mentioned the reasonable man. It's always a man. It's always a man. Although when I had my copies of the restatements, it had been changed by person. It had been exchanged for person.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But that's why, you know, well, again, I was feeling nerdy. That's why the password this evening was proximate because a couple of little girls don't get raped unless Nitwit Nero pardons the rapist, which he did. And then he raped two little girls. direct and proximate cause. By the way, I have been awarded a Ramalama Ding Dong by Billable Rick. Thank you, Billable. That was for, if you're going to write like that, use a quill pen and hire a scrivener. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I was kind of proud of that. No, this was a case. I absolutely love this case in torts. It has to do with actions in an emergency situation. and it came out of the New York Supreme Court, you know, the trial court. A justice named Carlin wrote it. And I like to think I like to think that maybe Justice Carlin had been to the theater the night before
Starting point is 02:06:48 because this is some fine-ass prose since we were on the topic. This Cordes v. Peerless Transportation Company this case presents the ordinary man, that problem child of the law, in a most bizarre setting, as a lowly chauffeur and defendant's employ, he became in a trice the protagonist in a breach-bating drama with a denouement almost tragic. It appears that a man whose identity it would be indelicate to divulge was feloniously relieved of his portable goods by two nondescript highwaymen in an alley near 26th Street and, 3rd Avenue Manhattan.
Starting point is 02:07:29 They induced him to relinquish his possessions by a strong argument ad hominem, couched in the convincing cant of the criminal, and pressed at the point of a most persuasive pistol. Layden with their loot, but not thereby impeded, they took an abrupt departure, and he,
Starting point is 02:07:46 shuffling off the coil of that discretion which enmeshed him in the alley, quickly gave chase through 26th Street towards 2nd Avenue, whither they were resorting with expedition swift as thought, for most obvious reasons. Somewhere on that thoroughfare of escape, they indulged the stratagem of separation ostensibly to disconcert their pursuer and allay the ardor of his pursuit. He then centered on
Starting point is 02:08:10 for capture the man with the pistol whom he saw board defendant's taxi cab, which quickly veered south toward 25th Street on 2nd Avenue, where he saw the chauffeur jump out while the cab still in motion, continued toward 24th Street after the chauffeur relieved himself of the cumbersome burden of his fair, the latter also is said to have similarly departed from the cab before it reached 24th Street. The chauffeur's story is substantially the same. Except that he states that his...
Starting point is 02:08:39 I mean, this is like Roshamon only in the law. This chauffeur's story is substantially the same, except that he states that his uninvited guest boarded the cab at 25th Street while it was at a standstill waiting for a less colorful fair, that his passenger immediately advised him to stand not upon
Starting point is 02:08:55 the order of his going, but go at once, and added finality to his command by an appropriate gesture with a pistol addressed to his sacroiliac. The chauffeur, in reluctant acquiescence, proceeded about 15 feet when his hair, like unto the quills of the fretful porcupine, were made to stand on end by the hue and cry of the man despoiled, accompanied by a clamorous concourse of the law-abiding, which paced him as he ran, the concatenation of stop-thief, to which the patter of persistent feet did maddingly beat time, rang in his ears as the pursuing posse all the while gained on the receding cab with its quarry therein contained. The hold-up man, sensing his insecurity, suggested to the chauffeur that in the event there was the slightest lapse in obedience to his curt command that he, the chauffeur, would suffer the loss of his brains. A prospect as horrible to an humble chauffeur as it undoubtedly would be to one of the intelligentsia.
Starting point is 02:09:50 It goes on, is that brilliant? I love that. I love that. and who's to say it's not that's not falkner but it no that balkner or is that or is that um um that she hansworth no that's shakespeare that's shakespeare i love this here okay uh returning to our chauffeur if the philosophic horatio and the martial companions of his watch were distilled almost to jelly with the act of fear when they beheld in the dead vast and middle of the night the disembodied spirit of hamlet's father stalked majestically by, with a countenance more in sorrow than in anger, was not the chauffeur, though unacquainted with the example of these eminent men-at-arms, more amply justified in his fearsome reactions
Starting point is 02:10:38 when he was more palpably confronted by a thing of flesh and blood, bearing in its hand an engine of destruction, which depended for its lethal purpose upon the quiver of a hair? When Macbeth was cross-examined by Macduff as to any reason he could advance for his sudden dispatch of Duncan's grooms, he said in a plausible answer, who can be wise, amazed, temperate, and furious, loyal and neutral in a moment. No man. And then he starts quoting case law, citing case law. I mean, and ultimately he said, no, no, no, the cab company was in the wrong, and the chauffeur, the hack, the cabby, is blameless in all of this.
Starting point is 02:11:20 jot it down any time you need to do some enjoyable legal reading. My two favorites are Cordes versus Peerless Transportation Company and the What Tut Tutte Review case. The former is American
Starting point is 02:11:42 and the latter is British. What Tutte. Heaven and the Chancellor will protect the working girl. That's what Tuttut. tortious interference with business relations. But see, I mean, this is the proof. This is the proof, David.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Having your brain rewired. I don't want to forget that. I hope I never do. But I didn't get the opportunity. I only know about that because I used to go rambling through my procer on torts, just looking for interesting shit to read. And you're just weird. that's the other thing too
Starting point is 02:12:34 well that's the eff and truth absolutely Lee in New York says who probably knows each and every maybe you too Steve
Starting point is 02:12:44 every geographic reference in that opinion can you give a Ramalama ding dong for the accounting of the crime I mean he either had to be Justice Carlin
Starting point is 02:12:56 either had to be an absolute Shakespeare nerd or he had been to see Ham, let's say, how many references? Hamlet and Macbeth at least. See, that's the kind of thing that I would have to have read twice just to get the fact
Starting point is 02:13:13 patterned out. I can almost hear him having a scroll, a scroll announcing this in a city square. Hear you, hear you. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Absolutely. And the red velvet livery and the knee breaches and the lace stockings and the buckled shoes and the little, the little, the little, the little, the little coiff with the little curls at the end, absolutely. Sort of walking.
Starting point is 02:13:42 That's where you say, that's what you say at the beginning, come now. And that's where it actually makes sense. Yes. As it, yeah, from a day when the bailiff would read the pleadings to the court. Mm-hmm. And that the case was not valid if the pleadings were not read. It's like, like a criminal indictment, and it's still the law of this state. close an indictment, and you do not say
Starting point is 02:14:09 against the peace and dignity of the state of West Virginia, your indictment gets dismissed. Criminal information's in Oregon for misdemeanor to say the same thing. Against the peace and dignity of the state of Oregon. I think. Something similar, at least.
Starting point is 02:14:28 I've never heard that. And then when we're doing arraignments, we have to make sure that we have to say, you know, defendant waves further reading of the information. Right. Because apparently there's still a right to have the information read in open court.
Starting point is 02:14:49 And woe betide the defendant who says, no, your honor, I want you to read the motherfucker. Woe betide. Yes. Exactly. I just, I missed my calling. I don't know what my calling was, but I missed it. So I was reading in the chat yesterday. We have a team's chat for the office.
Starting point is 02:15:11 And apparently they were doing the afternoon docket for a. arrangements and it was like 515 and they were still on the record and the judge was all they were talking in the chat of the judge was all cranky oh my god judges don't like it when their program gets disrupted at all no that's why they're judges they get they get to be little piss ants about anything they want to and and and god forbid something goes past their when they say my court closes at such and such, God forbid you go past that. Yeah, I mean, it's if, if, I mean, I thought it was annoying in law schools,
Starting point is 02:15:58 in law school when, um, when my professors just would get all hot and bothered, when class would be disrupted by people actually bothering to answer, to ask and answer questions. I just, now that I'm, go ahead. It's like judges do the same thing. They don't, it's like they do not want, they, they want to be in complete control of their courtroom. They want, it's their little, it's their little fiefdom. And God help anybody who gets in the way of their, of their program.
Starting point is 02:16:37 I just, I really wonder why my experience in law school was 180 degrees from what you guys are both talking about. 180 degrees. Maybe the fact that it was in D.C. I didn't go to school in D.C. Oh, I thought you went to American, or George Washington or something. I went to G.W. undergrad. Oh. I went to law school in New Jersey.
Starting point is 02:17:03 Okay. You know, our governor here in the state of West Virginia, who was Attorney General for three terms, went to Rogers. And apparently cannot spot something that's inconstitutional when it's right in front of his face. I can go to Rutgers. Yeah, I mean, I'll, with the reminder that we got about 30 minutes
Starting point is 02:17:27 left in the program. And, you know, we're a goose egg. And, you know, come Monday, we'll be at, if things don't change, come Monday, we will be at $2,370 bucks. Rockman, put me down for 15. Oh, thank you, Christopher.
Starting point is 02:17:46 That's so kind. Thank you. Hey, everybody. Happy Friday. Happy Friday, Christopher. Happy Friday, Chris. Hey. I was going to jump in just for a second here because apparently this is, well, as Shakespeare once wrote, that time of year thou mayst in me behold. And after that, the rest of the sonnet's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 02:18:12 Can I just say something real quick? Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry, interrupt real quick. No, please. You are so much, you are so much more sophisticated than I ever was in law. school. I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I don't think I, I, I, I, I'm a, I, I'm a, I'm much more economically focused, um, in the way that I approach the law. I don't think that speaks to a lack of sophistication. Finance is pretty highfalutant. and law school pedagogy is such that law and economics is the predominant paradigm. Yeah, I mean, you were saying you didn't necessarily enjoy law school,
Starting point is 02:19:03 but by the same token, I found it to be the ultimate liberal arts terminal degree, because depending on what you're studying, you have to learn about medicine, you have to learn about engineering, you have to learn about economics, You have to learn about finance. It touches everything. And as a consequence... Go ahead. You have to remember, Roxanne, though, that, like,
Starting point is 02:19:34 because of the time period where I went to law school, a vast majority of the cases I was reading were authored by Scalia and Thomas. Good God. Yeah, that, I mean, that is... Yeah, it was an exercise of protecting my mind from the gas lining, which is why I had, which is why I have copious, like, counter arguments scribbled throughout all of my case books, because I never, I could not just sit there and read
Starting point is 02:20:05 those opinions and not critique them, which probably made me a better lawyer. But it was, it was, it was awful. Oh, I can, I can imagine. I mean, you know, I, you bring up a valid point and that is, you know, law school is not a static, or the legal education is not a static thing. It is influenced by the tenor of the ruling doctrines of the day. And by the way, Ralph says, for Christopher from Teagan and Kayla, Thank you, Routes. So we're down to the $2,000 mark.
Starting point is 02:20:57 That helps. Thank you. I'll do a $15 challenge. Oh, that would be wonderful. Yeah, the $15 paper chase challenge? That'll work. Funky-dope. Well, the paper chase challenge is on the table.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Thank you, Steve. I wouldn't know, but I mentioned our god-awful, Fatty Patty, the Trenton Troll, the pill pusher. Three terms as Attorney General, which he spent entirely focused on tormenting women and tormenting marginalized communities, and then that was good enough to get him into the governor's office, where, you know, whalehead, dead bear brainworm lamprey looked him right now and said, you are one fat fuck.
Starting point is 02:21:43 You could stand a little exercise and push back from the dinner table, Patty. Well, what I said earlier about that time of year they'll maced in me behold, every year for the last five, six, actually, I've had these moments of kind of, kind of existential dread where I have to once again go through the kind of terrifying business
Starting point is 02:22:24 of trying to figure out if now is the time that I have to flee and I'll have to wait until it passes the House it came out of the Senate just in time for what they call crossover day so it can now be considered in the House two bills one of which says that if I were to
Starting point is 02:22:46 change my clothes in a women's dressing room, I could be prosecuted for a felony for indecent exposure when every other woman in the room is naked too. Or in some state of undress. The other
Starting point is 02:23:05 bill is couched in the terms of an anti-drag bill, but it is written so broadly and so vaguely that all it would take would be for a minor child in Wally World to point at me and, you know, I don't draw attention to myself.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Not running around with pronoun pins or trans pride anything on. I'm just a woman going about her business. But I'm tall. And all it would take would be for one minor child to say, Mommy, that lady's awfully tall. And I'm maybe looking at five years. in the joint for existing.
Starting point is 02:23:55 And it is not a pleasant place to be in my mind. Because, as I said before, the idea of uprooting myself, while it might be interesting to have an adventure somewhere else, means uprooting, at least potentially, Victoria, and taking her away from a very loving family that will protect her to the ends of the earth. And going somewhere and being homeless. No matter how blue, no matter how accepting, no matter how safe it is.
Starting point is 02:24:35 And it is a terrifying thing. And it happens to trans people, particularly trans women, not taking anything away from the guys or the NBs. But the focus is on trans women. And the thing is, this bill, I mean, we talk about vagueness and obscurity and overbroadness. answering a question from one of the only two, there are only two senators in the West Virginia legislature who are Democrats. And one of them said, so I'm at a concert and I'm dressed for a concert and my date is dressed for a concert.
Starting point is 02:25:24 And we're enjoying the music and she's dancing. and she's straight and cis and white and everything else. But if she's showing cleavage, that could be a felony. And the proponent of the bill said, well, you know, we've drafted the bill, and we think the lawyers will figure that stuff out later. Never happens. Well, that's great. How much is it going to cost?
Starting point is 02:26:01 a cis woman who was just dancing and enjoying the music at a concert, how much is it going to cost her to defend her life while the lawyers figure it out? And by the time it gets to the court, if it gets to the court, because who knows if that person has the ability and money to get in, to break down the barriers in front of the courthouse door, the analysis is going to be such that, well, the legislature must have intended, if they had this to be the case by the text and language that they used, because if they had intended something different, they would have used some other language where the legislature is like, well, the lawyers are figuring that out. It's circular insofar as that no one ever considers the ramifications of the actual law that is being passed. Yeah, and let's be clear, that's never going to be used against a white cis-hete woman.
Starting point is 02:27:18 It's going to be used against a woman of color, a cis woman of color. it's going to be used against someone who is insufficiently feminine because it includes provocative dress. I mean, does every woman in West Virginia now have to wear a turtleneck sweater? That's a burqatite, baby. Yeah, right, Christopher. Exactly. Why didn't you wear a burqa to the concert?
Starting point is 02:27:56 What were you thinking? Why didn't you wear a burqa to the grocery store? It's just it's just the the regressive social ideology behind that too is it it not only implicates transphobia but it also in my mind implicates anti-blackness and racism of course because the trope of having the trope of having to protect of the of the white man having to protect the the sensibility and the virtue of the of the fair maiden is something that is incredibly medieval. And so the idea of of enacting laws because they have to, because the white male establishment has to protect the fair maiden from the pervert, It echoes a lot of anti-blackness in my mind, too. Oh, I think it does, and it goes hand in hand with the old racist trope that somehow black women are more masculine.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Yeah. I mean, they do the same thing. Think about Tamir Rice. Yeah. Oh, I thought he was a grown-up with a guy. He was 12. Oh, and by the way, I just learned about some maggot country music kid by the name of Luke Moody, who apparently on some podcast, assuming it's not AI. Apparently he's one of those masculine men of masculine masculinity guys.
Starting point is 02:30:11 And he said, it is gay sex for a man. man to have sex with a woman and give her an orgasm without getting her pregnant. Oh, God. I mean, there's no end to this filth.
Starting point is 02:30:36 And this has done in estimable damage to the culture. I mean, this is, you know, I thought it was dumb when what's his name, Fuentes, Nick Fuentes, said that it was, you know,
Starting point is 02:30:51 fellas, is it gay for a man to have sex with a woman? And his answer was yes. In response to not getting her pregnant, get a vasectomy. Yeah, but the whole purpose there, Roger, is that she is supposed to be perpetually pregnant. That's the only purpose that a woman has in right-wing, in right-wing masculinity. No, I was talking about having a woman have an orgasm without getting her pregnant. If you get a vasectomy, she can have an orgasm. and you won't be getting her pregnant.
Starting point is 02:31:26 But it still makes Jevis cry. But according to Luke Moody, that makes him gay. Well, then call me gay. It makes Luke Moody gay? Every time a woman has an orgasm, it doesn't get pregnant. He's gay? Well, if he's the one in bed, if he's the one, yeah. Hey, Roxanne, I wanted to go back to a couple of things.
Starting point is 02:31:53 I wanted to give you a cowbell for when you were up in disqual. whatever he called it and you were at the church and you saw the the the j man on the no it was the classroom every classroom every classroom Christopher every classroom had j man on the crucified yeah yeah well i'll tell you what when i'm emperor of marca i will make sure every church that's too macabre and it's uh i think we i'll take that oh yeah he's hanging up there and his head's kind of lolling over to one side and he's got the crown of thorns on and he's bloody and he does get down like you said that's why you get the cowbell
Starting point is 02:32:32 eventually it does get down um thank you i think that needs to be replaced with a new statue like a rainbow colored statue of the j man riding the Easter bunny as we approach Easter so I think we need to do that
Starting point is 02:32:51 and then um spring fertility celebration do you mean the spring fertility celebration Yeah, something more festive. I'm a cop. The other thing is, you were talking about Texas Congress critters. It made me think of Dr. Ronnie feel good.
Starting point is 02:33:13 Is he still a Congress critter or is he gone? He's gone now, isn't he? Is he? No. You talking about Ronnie Candyman Jackson? Yeah, yeah. No, he's still there. By the way, I miss Spoke.
Starting point is 02:33:27 I misspoke. It was not Luke Moody. It was a MAGA influencer named Josiah Moody. Showing up on a show run by some dude named Luke Beasley, my bad. In which he declared Josiah did. Kind of know what kind of family he came from, naming kids Josiah. The best part about heaven's six.
Starting point is 02:33:57 is reproduction. Seriously. I don't value sex because of an orgasm. I value sex because I know that I'm going to reproduce and have another baby. How many babies does he need? More than Elon, I guess. I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows. You can never neglect too many children.
Starting point is 02:34:29 Come on. You're right. Okay. He just He needs enough children to run the farm, I guess. I don't know. Ah, Jesus. Thank you, Steve.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Steve just sent this breaking. To manage the homestead. The fucking boy. Plow the South 40 there and do the harness mending, Mr. Douglas. Steve just sent this in. And Steve's got a $15 challenge on the table. if anybody wants to jump in, that'll help a lot. There's one more point I wanted to make, Roxanne,
Starting point is 02:35:08 please. When you're ready. Okay. Is anyone absolutely 100% terrified that it seems like all the generals we have left are basically carbon copies of Jack D. Ripper? Yeah, including but not limited to. There's some of that annoying legal language. Raisin cane
Starting point is 02:35:33 Yeah Can you Like I say I keep saying Can you imagine Being a grown man A full on General with four stars
Starting point is 02:35:40 And your boss Nicknames you Raisin He's a Maybe he was one of the raisins For the commercials Yeah he's not No no no
Starting point is 02:35:50 He's one of those white raisins Sorry But That's petrifying to me That this really is all about Bringing about Armageddon And the thing is
Starting point is 02:36:07 when you're when you're locked into that Christopher the problem becomes every time Jesus doesn't show up it means you've got to do more oh wait okay we've just bombed the shit out of Iran and Jesus ain't
Starting point is 02:36:23 nowhere to be found maybe we ought to nuke them maybe a mushroom cloud the smell of a mushroom cloud in the nostrils of the almighty make him understand it god damn it get off your ass and get down here, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:36:40 And this is also the extent to which... But this is also the extent to which... But this is also the extent to which, and understand, this kind of theology, if you can call it that,
Starting point is 02:36:55 is in fact heresy because the book itself says, no one knows the time or the place and nobody can make it happen. But here they are trying to make it happen. With the blood of other people. It's also antitheticals to the teaching of their supposed Messiah
Starting point is 02:37:18 because the scripture talks about welcoming the stranger, whereas what they believe in is rooted and based in the ideology of a clash of civilization. Hate the other. As in that they hate the other because they're so fundamentally different from us. the good, saved Christian white race that they can never be integrated
Starting point is 02:37:49 or they will never be as human as we are when that's antithetical to the teachings of the scriptures if they were to have read them. Can I say something really quickly? Yeah, please see.
Starting point is 02:38:04 Correct something Roxanne has said in numerous times in the past. Oh, no. Yes. The book of Revelation is in the Vulgate. At some point in time, it was not. But it is in the Vulgate. Okay. I'll figure out who put it in there.
Starting point is 02:38:26 Well, I'll just mention, again, for the sake of saying, Jesus was neither white or Christian. The thing is, is that the thing is that the book of Revelation is not looked at as a prophetic literature. It's not looked at as prophetic literature. Oh, okay. I'm going to put that aside. It's looked at as apocalyptic literature, and that's a big difference. Right, because at the time, things were pretty apocalyptic in that neck of the woods. Things at the time, all that book is meant to do is to look at the people in a particular time at that point in the first century to say,
Starting point is 02:39:11 shit's horrible, but there's hope. It's not meant to predict the future. It's not meant to talk about the future. It's only meant to talk about the present. That's all I'll say, because I don't want to get into that. No, but I get your meaning because, well, even Paul in his writings, and those are the oldest books in the New Testament, he's trying to make Nisi with Nero by saying slaves obey your masters,
Starting point is 02:39:40 because Christians were being accused of being anarchists or whatever word they were, you know, and the Romans had a long-standing hang-up going back to, among other people, Spartacus, not to that, not long before, about slave uprisings. I'm Spartacus, I'm Spartacus, and so is my wife. That's not the teaching that I grew up with, but I, I don't want to get into that. Yeah. But, I mean, it's there.
Starting point is 02:40:20 The stuff that you talk about, that never was part of anything I learned. Well, you didn't go to a weird enough church. Remember, your humble OSTIS is a recovering Southern Baptist. Southern Baptist. I know, I know, I know. And we need a, okay, this is about a half a giggle. Can I just say, can I say something really? Really quick.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Yeah, please. And what a great-looking Southern Baptist you are. A recovering Southern Baptist you are. Recovering. Oh, thank you. I've seen the photos. I wish you were a harder recovering Morning Joe out of it. I haven't played Morning Joe in a week.
Starting point is 02:41:10 Hey, you haven't. I noticed that, yeah. It's your first week. Let's make it three. No, why? They're funny. I like I like playing clips
Starting point is 02:41:22 It's your former morning habit It's not funny You're breaking your habit No No no no no You can always go right back into recovery Just like if I went to Sunday services Down here at the local
Starting point is 02:41:35 Gospel shop and herpetological Sanctuary But no Steve sent this along This is serious stuff Israel, our partner in peace, has decided they're going to invade Lebanon with boots on the ground. Surprise me a minute.
Starting point is 02:41:57 They want to establish, and this, again, Steve sent this along from Le Monde, establish a control zone extending as far as the Littani River, which runs 4 to 30 kilometers from the demarcation line between Lebanon and Israel, or nearly 8% of Lebanese territory. land grab. It's another moment in that greater Israel dream of Belizil Smotrich and Idemar bin
Starting point is 02:42:26 golf pants. And of course, Psycho Beebe. From the Nile to the Euphrates. That's the plan. Yep. And, well, from the Euphrates to the Mediterranean and from the Syrian-Turkey border
Starting point is 02:42:42 all the way down to northern Saudi Arabia and the Nile. Yeah. How are they going to govern that? Oh, wait, genocide. Never mind. Silly. Silly, Roxanne. I'm successful for everything.
Starting point is 02:43:01 Yes. Yes, but Lebanon. Lebanon is just weeks away from making nuclear weapons, and we have to neutralize this threat. Right after we do Cuba. That's my, that's my, what's his face? Is he a imitation? B.B?
Starting point is 02:43:20 Yeah. B.D. Yeah. Yes. They're weeks away from nuclear weapons in the Lebanon. They would always say that Iran was weeks away from developing a weapon. Yeah, just like Donnie's health care plan. Two weeks.
Starting point is 02:43:39 Two weeks. Now, or Infrastructure Week. Yeah. And by the way, Georgian Korskel just told us live now with Midas Touch on YouTube, anti-ice concert in Minneapolis with the drop kick Murphys. Ooh, that'd be fun. And, okay, this is, who here remembers supersized me? Yes.
Starting point is 02:44:05 The guy's dead, right? Morgan Spurlock. Yes, Beckley boy. He, well, Neil Nisi Bonham. But, you know, he did an experiment where he ate McDonald's for a month. And it damn near ruined his health. Well, somebody else has taken up the torch, only this time, it's, the article is written by Jack Hobbs. I ate like RFK Jr. for a week, and you would not believe the toll it took on my body.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Exclusive. For a week, I ate like Health and Human Services Secretary, RFK Jr., and it took a massive toll on my body as I followed his very specific diet. Starting a new diet is never easy, especially when said diet seems to run counter to almost everything you ever eat. This past week, I decided to undertake what I have dubbed the RFK Jr. Diet, which consisted of meat, eggs, asparagus, green beans, mango slices, black tea, and, well, more meat. What about the lamppery? Well, yeah. What about the fermented food? Maybe the asparagus was pickled. Did he use an iron skillet?
Starting point is 02:45:28 Did he refuse to wash it? this past week the health and human services secretary revealed during an interview with USA Today's The Excerpt that he is on a carnivore diet and doesn't eat a single thing before noon however when the clock does strike that lovely hour the Trump official scarfs down four eggs and a few strips of bacon it was then reported pass the passive voice that the HHS secretary who just turned 72 allows himself to enjoy a snack of peanuts or pistachios throughout the day, along with an hour at the gym. Well, he likes to have dinner on the earlier side before 7 p.m. when he does.
Starting point is 02:46:13 It's a nice 12-ounce rib-eye steak cooked rare. Previous research shows that intermittent fasting is supposed to promote mental clarity, weight loss, and lower risk of serious diseases. Well, he praised it saying, It was a really extraordinary benefit. The way I feel, my mental clarity, my word retrieval, noticeable improvements. You know what I think that probably really improved
Starting point is 02:46:41 was when he stopped snorting cocaine off of toilet seats. So the author said, I knew I was going to have a hard time with this. As someone who loves coffee and admittedly relies on it to get through the day, I knew that completing this challenge would take all the willpower and determination I possessed. Day one was hell on earth. Throughout the day, my body repeatedly reminded me that I needed caffeine and food to even perform the simplest of functions.
Starting point is 02:47:16 Dear reader, as someone who used to keep a constant supply of protein bars and other snacks in their backpack, the first hours of this experience taught me to never underestimate what my partner brings home from work. Finally, as the clock struck noon, I was able to push myself from the desk, Thank God finally and warm up the eggs and bacon, which I had cooked the night before. Oh, dear God. Next day eggs? I mean, Jesus, I don't even think I keep deviled eggs to the next day. But he goes on at length, day one, day two, and he says, I don't want to sound dramatic,
Starting point is 02:48:04 even though those who know me might say otherwise, but undergoing this challenge was possibly the hardest thing I've done. Going cold turkey on several processed foods was a very rude awakening. As I mentioned previously, there were several days when doing the bare minimum seemed to be difficult, and I would be lights out by 9 p.m. every night while getting more sleep felt great. The constant headache and grumbling stomach were not the best of companions. And close is saying, parts of me thrilled to take part in it, as I love pushing the boundaries of what I can and can't do,
Starting point is 02:48:39 and the other never wants to revisit the gloomy and dehydrated parts of it. One thing my entire being can agree on, though, is that I don't want to eat, see, or smell a steak for at least two months. And you know what? RFK Jr.'s colon is not going to love him for what he's doing with all that red meat. I would not be at all surprised to find, and of course they'll cover it up, it'll be something else, but yeah, as humans, because we started the program with amateur anthropology from a governor of the Fed.
Starting point is 02:49:18 As humans, we are not meant to be carnivores. We are omnivores. We eat grasses and seeds. And I don't care how much he pisses and moans about seed oils and I only eat beef tallow. His blood vessels aren't loving that. and while I am no vegetarian and as much as I love beef I would be a wreck
Starting point is 02:49:50 if I ate beef every day of the week or red meat some days I don't eat any meat at all and it doesn't bother me but Jesus Christ oh the weirdos the freaking weirdos and
Starting point is 02:50:11 and the weird they These goons somehow, and it's always men, seem to think that this is some sort of a boost to their masculinity. But Jesus Christ, has anybody seen Bobby Kennedy? The only reason he looks like that with his shirt off is because he's jamming a needle full of testosterone into his ass. Once a week, or for all I know, once a day. And I just don't understand why he can't accept the body that God gave him.
Starting point is 02:50:45 I also have silicone implants underneath my skin. That helps. Emilio. Looks like leather face. I swear to God. No, I hate to disagree with you so peremptorily, Christopher. But that's prune face from Dick Tracy if there ever was one. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:51:08 I'll grant you that. Okay. Good Lord. And, you know, he wasn't exactly... beef cake before he started. Jesus. I only eat rare beef and snort cocaine off of toilet seats. And the fact that he, you know...
Starting point is 02:51:38 This whole cabinet, man, it's just... Creeps, freaks and weirdos. And by the way, in terms of a giggle on the way out, this is for Joy in Ann Arbor. Apparently, and this was accompanied by a photograph of a sinking ship, apparently torpedoes are the only petos this administration will fire. Oh. Yeah, that's a good one.
Starting point is 02:52:06 Yeah, I'm a llama. That's why I gave it out. Oh, and thank you. Thank you so much. Steve, your paper chase challenge has been met. Thank you to too much Hutch. Thank you so kindly very much. and now we're down to
Starting point is 02:52:26 1,970 bucks so let's see, what does that mean? 170 bucks would well 170 bucks would get us to fully funded through last Thursday so thank you
Starting point is 02:52:47 thank you too much Hatch and eating after 12 Lee in New York says does that change with daylight savings time change your clocks oh yeah Don't, well, most of our clocks reset automatically now. I saw a story the other day, and I'd be interested to know what y'all think of it. I think it's primarily schools, but institutions are giving up on clocks, because young people have a hard time reading them.
Starting point is 02:53:32 Stop it. Stop that right now. They don't teach people how to read clocks anymore. They don't teach people in high school how to make change at the cash register. I found that out. Oh, I found that out. A friend of mine who has a 17-year-old daughter and had to help her. Can't make change?
Starting point is 02:54:02 No. I had no clue how. I'm stunned. Yeah, it was two. I learned to count at like three years old, with pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, half dollars, and dollars. Did they teach people how to put the address on the envelope anymore in the elementary school? I learned that in elementary school.
Starting point is 02:54:30 Is that something that people don't know? What do you need mail for when you can have? have an emoji and an insta chat oh jesus well and that's what uh that's what that fed chair governor was blathering on about you know
Starting point is 02:54:49 things change in cultures and you know as a member of the fed the fed is not in the business of predicting the future but something will come along for those people that whose jobs AI eliminate yeah what is he is he judge snails from
Starting point is 02:55:06 tatty shack looking at uh Danny and saying, well, the world needs ditch diggers too. No, A. I'll do that as well. We may not actually sell and send now or the pre-de credit card offers for
Starting point is 02:55:23 33%, which I hear the average thing now because of what they've done in the banking system. I send those back. Other than I don't use real mail. So email and electronic. What happened to the art of the long-form letter writing, though? Can we bring that back? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:44 I used to love that. I'd start on a letter and finish it a week later, and it'd be about 10 pages long, and I'd stuff it in an envelope and send it off to whoever it was going to. You know, Trump's getting rid of PBS, too, so, you know, bye-bye Sesame Street. We were one of the last generations to learn how to count through Sesame Street. Right.
Starting point is 02:56:13 And learn how to like each other and not hate each other. That was a big part of Sesame Street. Yeah, it was. Well, can't have that. We're talking about that just the other night, Chris? Were we talking about that? Well, Jesse Jackson. I saw a clip of Jesse Jackson when he was on Sesame Street.
Starting point is 02:56:30 And it was pretty amazing what he said. Oh, and by the way. Yeah, they sang a little song. And saw Asian children and black children and Hispanic children and white children all singing this song together. I'm sorry, but I didn't learn to count my Sessalon. I learned to count by watching Jimmy Swagger gall up and down about the donations coming in. $5, $10, $15, praise the Lord.
Starting point is 02:56:57 Watch him cry. See, the one of crying or was that, Earl Roberts cried and said God was going to kill him. Yeah, if he didn't get his fucking Gulfstream 5, right? No, that's Kenneth Copeland. Keep your grifters straight there. It's hard. But speaking of Jesse Jackson,
Starting point is 02:57:19 his memorial today. in Chicago both Barack Obama both Barack Obama I saw Obama's speech and he said it was fucking amazing it was both Obama and Biden
Starting point is 02:57:33 showed up and spoke and the thing is Obama never said Trump's name but he did say we are living in a time when it can be hard to hope each day we wake up to some new assault on our Democratic Institute
Starting point is 02:57:52 and other set back to the idea of the rule of law and offense to common decency. Every day you wake up to things you just didn't think were possible. Each day we're told by those in high office to fear each other and to turn on each other and that some Americans count more than others and that some don't even count at all. Everywhere we see greed and bigotry being celebrated and bullying and mockery, masquerading his strength, we see science and expertise denigrated while ignorance and dishonesty and cruelty and corruption are reaping, untold rewards every day.
Starting point is 02:58:24 Every single day we see that, and it's hard to hope in those moments, so it may be tempting to get discouraged, to give in to cynicism. It may be tempting for some to compromise with power and grab what you can, or even for good people, to even just put your head down and wait for the storm to pass.
Starting point is 02:58:41 But this man, Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson, inspires us to take a harder path. His voice calls on each of us to be heralds of change, to be messengers of hope, to step forward and say, send me wherever we have a chance to make an impact, whether it's in our school, our workplace, or our cities, not for fame, not for glory, or because success is guaranteed, but because it gives our life purpose, because it aligns with what faith tells us God demands, and because if we
Starting point is 02:59:09 don't step up, no one else will, how fortunate we were that Jesse Jackson answered that call. What a great debt we owe to him. and I think that's an appropriate way to end the program this evening. Thanks everybody. Thanks to each and every one of you who share your precious finite time engaging in the program in whatever manner you choose. Thanks to our challenge makers, challenge respondents, a la carte contributors, subscribers and contributors via PayPal, Patreon, Cash App, Venmo, the United States Postal Service.
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Starting point is 03:00:35 It's a dangerous world out there. And if the governor of the Fed comes towards you talking about how, well, I don't know how long it's been since the homoes have been making tools, but we're not in the prediction business at the Fed. Avoid him like the plague. because he is and always always always Wayne and Gina it's all for you hope you're home from work now Victoria
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