Hello From The Magic Tavern - Season 5, Ep 66 - Windsprinkle Now (w/ Peter Sagal)

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Windsprinkle the Unicorn is back to apologize for his terrible behavior in the past and share some new bad ideas for the future.CreditsArnie: Arnie NiekampChunt: Adal RifaiUsidore: Matt YoungWindsprinkle: Peter SagalMysterious Man: Tim SniffenProducers: Arnie Niekamp, Matt Young, and Adal RifaiAssociate Producer: Anna HavermannPost-Production Coordination: Garrett SchultzEditor: Red KeenerMagic Tavern Logo: Allard LabanTheme Music: Andy PolandNew T-Shirts in the Merch Store!Check out our upcoming LIVE SHOWS!You can support the show directly and receive bonus episodes and rewards by joining our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/magictavern for only $5 per month. Follow us on Bsky, Instagram and YouTube!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Link in the show notes for info and tickets. And while you're pondering whether or not to attend and not fully paying attention to anything else, what a perfect time to sit back and enjoy the show. Hello from the Magic Tavern, a weekly podcast from the magical land of foon. I'm your host, Arnie Neacamp. If you've never listened to the podcast before, this is everything you need to know. Ten years and three or four months ago, I fell through a dimensional portal behind a Burger King in Chicago into the magical, fantastic,

land of foon. Luckily, I'm still getting a Wi-Fi signal through the dimensional rift, and I use that to upload a podcast recorded here in the tavern, the ruffled feather on the outskirts of the town of Hogs Face in the magical land of foon. And I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Chunt the Talking Badger. Hmm, Chunt, please. How you doing bud? I'm doing good, Arnie. I'm a, I'm a little worried about grapes the goat. Yeah, what are you concerned about? I feel like he's turning kind of purplish, right? He's going from white to purple. Am I crazy?

Yeah, I mean, I guess we always say that names have great power, so... Oh, he's choking. Sorry, he's joking once again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you say that names have grape power? Yeah, haven't you ever heard the expression with grape power comes grape responsibility? Oh, tell me more. Oh, yeah.

I don't know if I'm really up for another Spider-Man origin story. They do it so many times. I got it. He was choking on a fistful of... Bees. Sorry, guys. False alarm. Why do you keep feeding him bees? I don't know, because he keeps eating him? Yeah, fair. Sorry, Arnie, every time I shove a fistful of bees in his mouth, he swallows. Well, to be fair, he loves honey. Oh, loves honey. So why not cut out the middleman? That's true. Well, I am also joined by my other co-host, Eustodore the wizard. I am Eusador, Wizard of the 12th Realm

of Phesias, master of light and shadow, manipulator of magical delights, devour of chaos, champion of the great Poles of Trochus. The elves Nomius Fianelik, the dwarves nomius Zonan and Hook Stengis, and I have known throughout the Northeaster's Gasmanus Mestah and here, in this tavern the ruffled feather where ne'er do well sit in shadows

all about me. I must always have my eyes open which is why I grew an extra pair out of the back of my head, see? Whoa, shit. Yeah. Pretty cool, right? Those are intense eyes, too. Buddy, they're infected. Those are deeply

infected. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I keep forgetting, and I keep, like, you know, just, like, wiping my hand back there. It's like, I don't, I don't almost wash my hand. Sure. You got, like, super pink eye back there in both eyes. Oh, thank you. Not a compliment, but. Well, those gross eyes aside, guys, I'm so excited to be back in Hogs' face.

I know, yes, we're in the outskirts of Hogs' face, but, you know, just sort of getting back to our roots. It's true. I do wonder, though, what? hesitation is this that causes us to wait here, and not just to enter Hog's face proper. Is it fear? Fear, fear that the denizens of that fair city will ne'er forgive us, for the crimes that we commit when we destroyed their city, though it was in the service of a greater good. It could be that, but also, to be fair, we're getting a little older, and when you get

a little older, maybe you don't live in the center of Hog's face and you tell everybody you live in hogs face but really you live in one of the sort of outer burrows of hogs face yeah sure yeah I guess that makes sense I live in a I live in oak some people say that I just live in oak they just live in a big oak tree

it's not really in town I live in a park I just live in a park just in any park yeah Arnie I did notice in this area that you know obviously we're in the ruffled feather this is presumably the original it's where the original stood yeah but I have noticed in this area you know like I'll go out for a walk

and I'll see six or seven other ruffled feathers. Really? Yeah, I think they're franchising out the ruffled feather. Oh, but within the same town? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're Starbucks in? What? Like just having a ruffled feather across the street from a ruffled feather?

Oh, this is like a celestial thing? Uh, no, it's a Battlestar Galactica reference. Artie, tell us about Starbucks. Please. Talk about Earth stuff. Please. Oh, please, Arnie. Please, please, please, please.

Please, please. Please, we're not available for Earth stuff for now. Guys, I'm just excited. be back in Hog's Face. Let's focus on Hogs Face. And you know what? We're back in town. We met Flower again last week. I wonder, I wonder if there's any other old friends that we'll run into here. Hey, Usador. Yeah, yes. Do you ever feel like Arne always recaps our life? Well, I think he's doing that for the listener, but it really fucking irritates me. Yeah, it's so entertaining. I'll be like, I'll go up to him just to kind of talk to him because he looks sad. And then he's like,

hey, buddy, remember last week when you did this? And I'm like, yeah, I fucking remember. It was my life. What are you talking about? Right. And sometimes, like, when we're at dinner, he'll be like, how did you enjoy those steak and potatoes you just ate? Yeah. Weren't they cooked to a perfect medium rare? Yeah. Yeah, I just ate the fucking thing.

Who is this for? Hey, guys. Ed Arne, I'm sorry, you're right there. Yeah, guys, sorry for budding in. But remember a couple minutes ago when I told you to stop feeding bees to the goat? Yeah. No, we're feeding bees to the goat again. Yeah.

Oh, hey, is it just me? That rainbow colored unicorn over there looks very. familiar. It could be any rainbow colored unicorn. What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it does look a little familiar. You think so? Oh, he's coming this way. He's coming this way. All right, everyone is cool, be cool, be cool, be cool.

Be cool, be cool. Guys. Hey, you Chint. Arny, Usador. It's good to see you all. Yes, it's good to see you. I'm so happy to find you here.

Oh, good to see you, big guy. Hey, yeah, yeah. So let me, let me ask. Um, how are you? Well, we're very well. We've, uh, we've been gone on a number of adventures and, uh... No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you probably thought I was like, you know, being polite, which I imagine. Let's be honest, it would be a bit of surprise coming from me.

But no. Okay. I'm actually asking. Oh. How are you? Oh, um, how would anyone like to start? I mean, I'm kind of always like lowercase D depressed, I guess. I have a certain amount of anxiety.

Yeah, and I guess I'm a lot of times capital A annoyed with Arnie, but, you know. Yeah, that's natural. That's completely natural, nothing there to be ashamed of. Oh, thank you. And, uh, Wizard, again, I, I, I just want you to connect if, if you can. Just, how are you? I, I, I, I seem to have lost my purpose since, uh, there's no reason for me to continue be no wizards as I'm not immortal. All the wizards have churned against me, and I don't know how to continue fighting evil, but otherwise great.

Oh, sure. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah, we've all been there. We have. And I just got to say, I'm so glad to find you here. I'm going to be honest, I've been looking for you. Oh. Because I'm just going to be out with it. I think the last time I visited with you, oh, some years ago, a mere, you know, flash a moment of time, a mere blink of an eye for wee unicorns, of course, but many years, I think, by your mortal standards, I still think of it. And I'm going to confess to some shame because I do not think I presented my best self at that time.

We get this a lot. Most of our guests eventually get in contact with us and say, where they're really unhappy with their time they spent with us on the podcast. Sure. Yeah. Or like they said butts are boobs, and then that maybe affected their work life

and they feel bad about saying butts and boobs. Yeah. Yeah. It happens in so many different ways, you know. There are more different ways of going astray in this journey than there are colors in my beautiful main. Wow. And I'm sorry to dwell on this. And, you know, maybe it's not the best.

Like, if you feel shameful about something, you don't maybe want to, like, revisit it. But, like, what specifically do you feel shame about? Well, how best to put it. Well, let me put it to you guys with the honesty with which I approached it at my first meeting of AA. asses anonymous it was a journey to get there you sure you want to call it that

because again in three or four years you might come back and be like oh no no no it was founded by asses but very quickly it expanded to all equines a lot of unicorns there I imagine you guys can guess why

I think it's best to say you know hi I'm just going to tell you what happened It took a lot for me to get up Not so much to stand up Because pretty much I'm always standing You're a stander. Yeah You don't really lay down, right?

No, not much, not much. Just sleep with a little flickering the eyes But to step forward, let's say To put all four feet forward And to say, hello everyone Oh, you call them feet, interesting. Yeah, my name is Winsprinkle And I'm a fucking asshole

And first of all, the asses in the room, I just want to say right out, completely understood the phrase. It's idiomatic. They know that I'm not referring to them. Right. And I went on to talk about how I treated people as instruments of my own will and profit, how I treated other people's concerns as far less significant than mine, how I broke the legs of, oh, Lord knows how many other sentient beings in pursuit of profit. And that really, I can't tell you what it felt like.

I mean, I think I have really, when you think about it, two birth dates, the day, of course, my mother fold me. And that day, that day when I started again and tried to make sure that the tracks I leave in this world are more than just a series of hoofprints. Sure. Wind sprinkle, that is beautiful. Yeah, wind sprinkle, which obviously we've been calling you the whole time since you came out, That is so beautiful, and I just want to thank you for sharing that with us. I think that was really brave of you. Yeah, well, you know, let me put it this way.

I came back here to do more than make amends. Oh. Although I hope you can forgive me. Because my own journey has been one of discovery, renewal, and in many ways, I'll say shocking, revelations. Oh, that'll be good for the podcast. About the way things are. And for me, it started with food. As you may remember, I was, I'm going to go out and say it, addicted to oats.

Oh, no. You may remember. And it's very common for unicorns, horses, asses, mules, to be eating oats because that's how we were raised. We were raised on oats. We were raised by big oat. Oh, big oat. Yeah. Basically, the corporate interests that are constantly telling us that what we need is oats,

rather than the more natural products of the earth. More natural than oats? Well, yeah. I mean, I mean, I don't hold this against you because just like all of us... I'm not an oat spurt. No, I mean, just like all of us, you have been subjected to this constant propaganda from big oat or, you know, the feed. conglomerate telling you that these like little flakes are somehow good for you when they're so removed by at least one step from their natural state wow i'm so sorry i'm trying to remember

what oat propaganda i've heard i feel like most of the time when people refer to oats they're like they're fine they're like i was like how do you like those oats they're okay i mean have you ever heard the expression feeling your oats oh that was invented by oat propagandist trying to indicate to you that feeling one's oats meant that you were feeling particularly good. And now that you mentioned that, I remember my aunt when I was first born, was always sewing

oats. My first ten garments were all made of oats that she sewed. Were they wild oats? Were you told that one should sew one's wild oats? Because that's all part of it. It's all part of it. I mean, I got to tell you, once you see this, for the first time,

can't unsee it. It's everywhere. Is that weird guy in town that keeps asking me to show him my oat face? No, that's, Ani, that's something totally different. Something else, okay. Yeah. It's understandable because words are hard. And sometimes, you know, the first time I heard of big oat, I was like, big goat.

No, grapes, grapes, lay down. Not you. Yeah, I thought it was big goat. Is that your goat over there? Yes, that's grapes. That's grapes. That I just wanted to, I noticed the goat and I just wanted to just ascertain who might be responsible for it. But we'll move on.

Oh, by the way, Uzzardar, or as the unicorns call you, that guy. That guy. I just want you to know that I have spoken to my brethren among the unicorns and we've decided to change your name because I don't think that was kind. I don't think that was kind. Finally. Yes, you were constantly trying to pick hairs off our tails, and we don't like that. And that's still true.

That's still some things don't change. That's fair. I mean, I think there's a basis of reality, and that's part of it. But at the very least, in a kind of recognition of your, unique role, you know, not only in Foon, but in your own journey, we've gone from calling you that guy to that guy.

Oh, oh, what a boon. Yeah. Windsprinkle, I've never felt more moving in all my life. I must thank you and thank all the unicorns of Foon. Well, I hope that guy, that's just the first step of your own journey, because

I'm here to bring you guys some really surprising news. That's incredible. Incredible. Before we get that news, let's take a quick break. And while we're on that break, maybe I'll get some of this unicorn's blood. It's quick blood now, blood now. This episode is sponsored by HeroForge.

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If you're an asshole, you're an asshole. You could be, as I am, an asshole in recovery, but it's a daily struggle. As we like to say at the meetings, it's four steps forward, eight steps back. Of course. Yeah, if you prolapse as an asshole, you don't stop, right? No, it's true. And that happens a lot, constant prolapsing among the community. but that's just part of the struggle.

Yeah, you're just like white hoving it. Yeah, in a weird way. Just barely holding on. But we do it with each other's support. We have a lot of maxims in the movement. You know, basically what we like to say is if you keep admiring your own horn, you'll just go cross-eyed. Right? Sure.

Wow. What we're all trying to do is get our face out of the feedback and face what's real. Holy shit. What I have discovered, and this is the good thing, news that I've brought to you. Okay. Whenever someone says good news, I'm a little trepidious, I'm being perfectly honest. Oh, no, no.

I mean, I honestly think. I mean, I hope that this moment is for you the way that our prior meeting was, for me, in terms of an inflection point. Okay. As you move forward, because what I have discovered is that we're all sick. Oh. We're all sick. We're all unhealthy.

Oh, no. We're all just, we're not eating right. We're, we're, we're, I think we're drinking too much ale. I think that our, our life. lifestyles are almost designed to hurt us. And I've been working for some years now with some really influential people, people who are visionaries. People who really have shown me the truth. Are we talking?

The actual visions? Like they see visions? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, they've described them to me quite vividly. Sure. Yeah, Arnie, visionaries are, how do I put this? They're canaries that have visions.

Oh. Visionaries. Yeah. Not these. None of these were birds of any kind, but nonetheless. So what do you eat now? What do you eat now? If you can't eat oats?

Well, no, I mean, the whole herbivore thing, I think for us is a dead end. Oh, okay. I mean, I think certainly, let me put it this way. If someone says to you, eat grass. If someone says to you, graze here on the lawn, what are they saying to you? They're saying, keep your head down. They're saying, don't look up. They're saying, stay here.

within the confines of this pasture. You're saying don't look up, don't pay any attention, just constantly be chewing these fibrous roots for supposed nutrition. So, no, I'm part of my message is I don't think being an herbivore is a future. I've now, like many of my fellows in the movement, become a carnivore.

Whoa. Wow. Okay, I didn't expect that. Yeah. It's difficult because I don't have the appropriate teeth or digestive tract. but I think that too is just a part of our programming that we have been subjected to and we just have to find our way out of it

and eventually I feel if I continue eating animals particularly the live struggling ones that provide the best benefit I will eventually develop incisors and perhaps and this is a hope I'm just going to confess it to you because we're friends I hope that someday I will poop again yeah we all hope that so when you said you're a part of a new movement Yes, yes. The movement, it's kind of a new reality, if you will. It's kind of a group raising of consciousness. Not so much as any leaders per se. We're just a lot of people spreading the good news, a message of diet and health and approach to living of good thinking. And it basically comes under a label that we like to think of as make food healthy again. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Or mfa.

Mufa. And I have to say that me and all the infas out there are, we think that we have good news for everybody. And we think that we can break this vicious cycle that's really been dominant in foon for low these many eons of conflict and battle. Yeah. Now, Winsprinkle, I have noticed. I didn't notice this before. Because you have such a colorful coat of all these different colors. And I didn't realize.

Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I didn't realize all the sort of red on your snout. That's not your hair. Oh, no, no, no, that's blood. Yeah, that's blood. Because we believe that another thing that we've all been, shall we say, manipulated into believing is regular cleaning. I don't think that's wise.

I think that as you move through life, you accumulate experiences, which leads to wisdom. You wouldn't want that removed on a regular basis every night, say, before bed. Why is that not the same of your physical reality, the layers that accrue to your body, be it dirt, be it blood, be it other bodily fluids that surprisingly spurred out of the small animals that you are chewing? Now, I think we all agree that the way to learn is by asking questions, right? Just asking questions. I mean, I'm constantly in an inquisitive move. Questioning things, right? Yeah, you're just questioning things.

I mean, I basically am like, you know, think of my horn now as a pointer. What's that? What's that? What's there for me to learn? Where is my horn leading me? My horn, if my horn is pointing me where I've already been, it's on my wrong end. Wow. Yeah, you don't want the horn on the wrong end.

No. So then my question is, my non-confrontational question. No. Oh, you're just about to ask a question. Arnie, he's learning. My question is, do you see any sort of hypocrisy and not running your assurance business where you broke people's legs? Oh, oh, gosh. Versus eating animals.

Like, they're both sort of violent acts, I'm just saying. I can't tell you that guy what it was like to finally put that rat race behind. Sure. When I look back at that part of my life, I have to laugh. What was I thinking? Yes, yes, I was offering people protection in case their leg happened to get broken. A fatal injury, of course. And putting that behind me, all those dead creatures of every variety,

was just another step for me on the way to where I am now. And where I am now is where I need to be. Now, I do want to say that I kept the money. Okay. I mean, you know. You already had it. I had it. And, you know, once you have it, I mean, I think.

What else could you do with it? I think anything of value, you know, it is a value in and of itself. And the question is, what use you're going to put to that? So I've been using my funds to spread my message, making food healthy again, to try to get people to turn just to think about what they're eating, what they're doing, what things they're putting in their bodies. And maybe, you know, if we're lucky, connecting them to, you know, some of the, not all by any means, but some of the more interesting things that spin taxes had to say about these things.

Spintax? Oh, no. Yeah. No, no. I mean, yes. Okay. I know that everybody's got this thing about spin tax, you know? Like, oh, Spintax is evil. Spintax wants to run the world. I mean, he is evil. He doesn't want to run all the food. Well, be that as it may. I mean, think of it's been, and I've spent some quality time with Spintax. Yeah, so have I.

And, oh, good, then you probably see what I mean. And I think when you get him face to face away from, you know, the lights of, the candles and stuff. He's just another wizard who just wants what's best for all of us. All right. And he's starting with himself. I have to back you up here.

Yeah. Wren Spiegel's right. When you get Spintax away from all those candles, he has like a billion candelabras. It looks nuts. Sure. It looks crazy. And I do want to say it's a little warm.

It's a little warm. Especially if you're covered entirely with fur. Oh, boy. Too many candelabras. It's weird. Sorry. I interrupted. I'm so sorry.

Well, I'm just a little worried. Winsprinkle, like, look, you're an old friend, and I appreciate that you're sort of trying to be healthy. I'm a little skeptical about some of it, but you're aligning with spintax. I'm just not sure that I'm RFOK with all of this. Well, I think, you know, the question is, Arnie, are you okay with you? Wow. A real, shit. Shit, he's right.

Oh, no. I mean, that's the question. I mean, fine, I'll bear your judgment. I deserve it, you know. But I really think the question that I and Spintax want everybody to consider is, where are you? Are you where you are supposed to be? Are you eating the living creatures that you are supposed to be eating? As we, I think, were designed to eat.

You definitely weren't designed to eat living creatures. You even said your teeth are wrong for it. Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. But I think in a weird way, I think that's just another sign of how far from the path we've fallen. Yeah. I also notice Winsprinkle. I'm so sorry to bring this up. Sure.

I feel like, and I don't want to sound like I was looking, but it looks like there's like half of an undigested squirrel coming out of your butthole right now. Really? Yeah. Hold on. Let me take a look. I can't catch you.

Let me take a. Let me take a mirror. He's knocking over so many chairs. I can't. I think I'd need two mirrors. Give me a mirror. Yeah, we need two mirrors. Listen, can anybody do an etching?

Can anybody back there just? just do a quick etching of some kind, a charcoal drawing. Oh, I thought this day would never come. Go for it, John. Okay, let me set up a king. Let's get some candlelight right on the... Okay, all right. Now, that's the right amount of candelabras there.

There I go. All right, okay. Weird in there. Hunt is a regular backseat. Right, and voila. Wow. Wow, yeah, I guess that would be. Yeah.

It's kind of remarkable that it made it that far, but I think even that, I mean, with the right attitude, even this is a sign of positivity. Because I am so clear, if you will, that this animal or the remains there I was able to pass through me with hardly any effect, well, to that half. So in your system, Arnie, who is intended to be a carnivore, would he continue to eat meat or would he like eat rocks now or something? Ooh, more questions. No, I mean, I think that, sorry, as a lifelong carnivore, you know this, that we're not merely ingesting, you know, nutrients, but we're, I mean, it's the, it's the veritable life force. The life from the food passes from the food to us.

And if you think about it, and I hope you all are now, trying to. What has more life, really? Just compare it, just a handful of processed oats. Yeah. Just, you know, just sitting there does not. moving, smelling great, and just with that amazing kind of

crunchy texture, just sitting there waiting for you to eat it, or something screaming for its life as it tries to flee. That's where the energy is. That's what Spintax has to tell us. Am I allowed to eat because look, here, I am a carnivore.

Am I allowed to eat food? And I admire you for that. No, thank you. I admire you for that. Am I allowed to eat it properly prepared? like, you know, like cooked to a safe temperature. I mean... Versus just sort of sawing off its head and having it. Yeah, to take this creature, for example, and subject it to flames until it's screaming and agony.

Well, of course. Of course, I think that really brings forth the vibrancy of the nutrients. I mean, I refer that it was... Look, I'm going to be honest. I'd be lying if I said that I fully knew how the process happened before it came to me. But I would hope that it was actually killed in a humane way. Or maybe it doesn't even realize it's being killed. Oh, Arnie, it's human.

It's pronounced human. Yeah. And when you think about it, and we've learned this from the humans, you guys like things to be screaming. Can I just say, Winsprinkle, and I've known your name the whole time one, you're not providing any science, any spreadsheets or facts, but my gut just says what you're saying is right. And I know, I know everyone, we all know Spintax is on Elfstein's float logs. We all know that, but the fact that you say you trust him when you spent face-to-face time with him, that makes me want to trust him. Yeah, I mean, I think, and I only wish this was possible because, you know, the spin tax that you hear about from the heralds or the refugees fleeing from the latest place that his forces have destroyed, that's all distorted. Yeah.

That's all biased. That's all brought to you by an agenda. for example, the agenda of people who are terrified, he will find them and kill them. Okay. Oh, it's sort of an agenda. And if you get beyond that, if you just talk to the guy, the wizard,

you know, one, just horse to wizard, just one enormous nose facing a relatively normal one. You see, he's just a guy. Just a guy trying to make his way in the world, you know? He does what he has to do, who gets up in the morning, puts on his robe, you know, over his head, You know, just one head hole at a time.

One body at a time. Right? Yeah. Right. And then goes and does what he can. But I think somebody... So you've watched him get dressed in the morning, is what you're suggesting? Well, I mean...

You know, I mean... I mean, I don't want to pry into your personal life. I'm just going to say he's a very, very busy man. As you know... Dead and busy. Running and expanding his dark empire. And if you're going to spend time with him, it's got to be during the off hours. I'll just leave it there.

Sure. I have known. spin tax for a very long time. And we've been rivals, we've been friends, we've been frenemies, we've been a thruple, we've been, we've been just about everything you can imagine. Radio hosts? That's right. All of it. And what I would have to say is he's completely full of shit. Well, yeah. As am I. I mean, Spintax is on the Mafa diet and has been for years and I don't think, my gosh, I mean, I haven't pooped in months

I don't think he's pooped in a century That may explain, I'm just going to say And I say this is a little compassion for him That may explain his mood Yeah, definitely explains his voice Wow, I find that really refreshing You, wait, Chin, you find that refreshing? I find that really refreshing.

You do? Yeah. Can I talk to you for just a second? Yeah, of course. Did you want to talk about Elfstein's float logs? Everyone seems to be avoiding it. I definitely don't want to talk about that. What I have to say is,

I'm concerned that perhaps wind sprinkle has fallen into sort of a kind of a cult, the cult of Spintax, you know, like he makes all these promises and it seems like it's going to be good. And then if you're a certain persuasion, perhaps you're more likely to fall under his sway. Gotcha. Well, and the second thing is I wanted to bring up was, do you notice how Arna keeps pausing after the word old? He keeps saying, like, do you want to be my old friend?

And I'm like, why doesn't he just say old friend? Yeah, that is weird. Try to me nuts. Anyway. Look, John, I'm just, look, you're very good-natured and well-meaning, but impressionable. You're kind of the Theo Vaughn of this group, so just don't get totally, like, suckered in with this stuff. Speaking of, did I ever tell you the one time my cousin flew to the moon and then did a backflip and joined with a bird, became a bird late 20 eggs? And that's all true.

That's real. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. I don't mean to interrupt, but that's all right. Whose goat is that? Oh, that's my goat. That's your goat.

Okay, because I'm just, I have to say, I'm feeling a little peckish, and I was wondering if you would mind if I were to devour it right now. I don't know if that's the best idea. Oh, well, were you going to devour it? No, no, no, no, no. That goat's name is grape,

and he's a little dried out. Mm-hmm. Oh, what's a dried-out grape called? You know, and I know you have a thing with, Oh, a raisin. Oh, that, that. I can't, again, I don't blame you. I don't blame you.

You guys, of course, of course, you're so wonderful. You're thinking of the old wind sprinkle. But no, I haven't had a problem with raisins for, I don't know how long. It's just really a matter of willpower. Yeah. Of understanding that I control myself, the raisins do not control me. Okay. And I'm sure if I ever were to encounter an actual raisin,

I'm sure it would be fine. Oh, and I guess it's just his name. Yeah. Oh, raisin. I can say raisin all day. Oh, we're raisin' hell. We're raisin the barn door after the horses have left. You know, that's a little... Indeed. Chunt can win sprinkle eat your goat? At first I was opposed to it, but the fact that he's not letting raisins control him

and the fact that he didn't blame you used it or, I find that really refreshing. Why was I ever going to be blamed? I didn't do anything. And I do, I think I'm going to grab this candle here. I think I'm going to kind of stick that candle on my forehead to sort of, you know, be in, be in unison to support windsprinkle here with your beautiful horn. Thank you. Thank you. It's a cruel parody, but I'll take it in the spirit in which it is offered, which is not that.

Wow, taking it in spirit. I find that really refreshing. You find everything refreshing. I mean, sometimes it's so valuable just to compare yourself to where you were. I sit here and I'm like, I'm in this room with the old wind sprinkle. And I think the old wind sprinkle would have gorge you in the throat right now. Eat my goat. Eat my goat.

In such a way that you'd be gargling to death in your own blood. But that's not who I am anymore. Yeah. It's just not. Eat my goat. This is what I voted for. Eat my goat. Thank you.

Eat it. Let's take a quick break while wind sprinkle eats a great. Oh, God, this is so gross. Yeah, sorry, listeners. During the break, wind sprinkles really, really been trying to eat this goat, and grapes are sort of standing there. This is so good. Oh, yeah.

I can, I can... Wind sprinkles. The way it's slime, oh, my... Oh, it's great. So good. I can feel the essence. drip. I mean, listeners didn't hear during the break,

but there's a lot more throwing up in this process than I would have guessed. Yeah. Yeah, that, I mean, again, you know, one swallow forward, two swallows back out. Right. It's another thing we tend to say. But again, it's been so long, as Pintech says,

since we've lived the way we should. But getting back to that is just going to be a struggle. And sometimes we just have to endorse some pain before, you know, things get better again. Winspringle, I'm usually not one. to kind of like try to give people advice on eating healthy. Lord knows I'm not. But are you sure you're okay?

I didn't notice it at first, but there seemed to be like worms and maggots like streaming out of your ears. Like what? I, I, what, what Spintax says, as well as many of my friends in the Muffa movement, is that's just a sign of abundant life. Okay. But do you know what Spintax has also done since he's become a wizard? warlord is he's also tried to fire all the veterinarians, all the veterinarians who actually know what they're talking about. Oh, that was my

idea. Come on. Come on. I mean, you know, yeah, like, come on. Like, some human person is going to know what's best for me, a mystical horse-like creature. They've devoted their whole life to taking care of you. Oh, no. Come on. I mean, you know they were in the pocket of, like, you know... Big Oats? Yeah, the Big Oats. I mean, they're constantly forcing oats, dewormers, grooming hairbrushes on us for their own profit, for their own

profit. I mean, let me put it this way. Let me put it this way. How come every single authority? I say that in quotes. And if I had hands, I would be making those quote marks in the air. It's fun that you tried, though. I find that refreshing.

And I did stumble a bit, especially with all the blood on the floor. I should have anticipated that before I reared back up. Okay. The way you shook your mane, I kind of got it. Okay. All right. If you take all those authorities, air quotes, why does every, every single one of them say that a horse's shitty adotes and other grasses? I mean, how could that be?

Because there's no dissent? No, because, is there no, like, contrary point of view? Has it ever been debated? Where are the studies? I don't think so. I mean, you have to ask, if everybody agrees on something, then somebody's behind it. Right. But then there has to be some force.

Maybe it's just the fount of collective knowledge over centuries that have allowed us to build a society. Yeah, no. No, I mean, let me put it this way. Let me put it this way. If that were the case, if this collective wisdom had made us all so healthy, then why are you three such absolute loathom little gits? Oh, now, come on. No, I mean that lovingly. I mean that lovingly, but let's be honest with each.

I mean, look, a broken clock is right once a day, at least twice a day. Yes, in military time. Look, look, I normally wouldn't do this, Winspringold. I normally wouldn't do this because this is not the kind of thing I do, because you're struggling with oats, but I have a big bowl of oats here. For me, I'm going to eat these oats. Um, num, num, num, num, num, they're so... Arnie, can I have some of your dried oats?

sure yeah these are really good let me just I not that I'm tempted but I'm just curious when you when you eat those oats do you like to have a little water with them do you is that a thing oh yeah I think I need some water we love to have a little water yeah and when you eat the oats and you have a little sip of water does does the water sometimes like catch a little ode or two or three that may have been caught in your broad plant grinding teeth Kind of helps. And it's just like a little extra special surprise that you didn't expect that you get and you get it and you just have the little spark of joy. Does that happen to you when you eat oats?

Ooh, I can't tell if windsprinkle is drooling and salivating or if those are more worms and maggots. Oh, yeah. Both, I think. No. Yeah, well, you know, that was then. This is now. And the now, the now is devoted to making food healthy again, and it's not going to come from that bag of oats.

No. Well, I am sorry that we tempted you with oats and water, but, you know, today's a special day, so I thought I just tried to eat this apple hole. Oh, wow. Yeah, God. Oh, man, I used to eat apples. I was helpless in the face of my addiction to apples

and other ripe, firm fruits, the ones that really give your teeth a workout. But no, no, no, no. Unrelated to that, I have this big bowl of sugar cubes that I really do eat all the time. And I have extra apple. Actually, look, you know what? I have got places to be.

I am out there spreading the message, and I'm going to do your favor. I'm going to do you a favor because I think one of the things I've learned is just as I was back then I needed a strong kick in the head. I think that you guys need someone to show

you way to go. So I'm just going to take that apple and I'll just I'll just throw my mouth. And oh the boats, no yeah, too, you don't want no. Yeah, we don't need those. He's housed in this stuff. Stopping these things. We'll eat them. Don't eat them. No, in my mouth.

in my capricious cheeks. And as soon as I'm... As soon as I am out of here, onto my next journey of expiation, I will absolutely spit them out. Good. I swallow them. I'm sorry, again.

What did I say? Two steps forward, four steps back. This is an important moment for me. That's refreshing. I slipped. I fell. But you know what? I did it with friends.

Wow. Who in their own way kind of enabled me. Yeah. Yeah, I don't feel great about how this worked out. Kind of sabotaged me now that I'm thinking of it. Some ways it feels like engaging with you a little bit, trying to sincerely engage with your platform is a little bit lose-lose. Yeah, yeah.

Before I go, guys, let me ask you a question. And, you know, I'm concerned with your health. That's my thing now. Sure. All health, all day. Have you considered any of you what would happen to you or your loved ones if your leg was broken. Oh, fuck.

Because it happens. It happens, especially with the poor diets that we've all been manipulated and eating. Sometimes your legs just snap sometimes. It'll happen, God, when you least expect it. Like, you know, when you're walking alone, a dark alley, or when you're alone in your home and you haven't remembered to lock the doors and windows, it can happen to you. It can.

Wind sprinkle. You don't need to completely revert to this sort of behavior. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. This is all just, this is all just out of, what's the word? It's a theoretical, I understand. And you're concerned and yes, yes, yes. You know, but I do want to say, I don't break legs anymore.

I just don't. That was the old me. That's not the new me. I'm not that unicorn anymore. But it's still true. Some legs deserve to get broken. Not I'm not going to do it. Not going to do it.

Not me, not now, not who I am. No. The new road I'm on just goes right past. those little off-ramps, those little side roads to leg-breaking. But sometimes I pass by. Lucky me, I rarely walk anywhere. Yeah. Well, I would say, keep that up, Arnie.

Just stick to that. And here, let me leave you guys some literature. Okay. Ooh, I love to read. I think it's important. You always know how to reach me via Wi-Fi. Yeah. Just give a winnie.

He'll come. I've all signed you up for my Wi-Fi newsletters just so he'll be coming by with information, newsletters, important offers. Fine. You know, we have a wonderful supply

of small struggling vermin. How did I get on this name list? Just the finest. I mean, just because we were concerned there wasn't a good, you know, supply of vermin, so we wanted to fill that need. Wait, this is all just an excuse

to sell me vermin supplements? No, but I mean, there's so much more Do it. No purchase is necessary, but we think spin tax and all the rest of us think that an important supply of carefully inspected, highest quality vermin from the finest suppliers, inspected and guaranteed by us, is just better for you. And, you know, let me over it this way. You may not be eating the finest vermin. Maybe you've shied away from the price, right? But you know that your competitor out there, they're eating that vermin. Yeah. Vermin is a bit of a cure-all. I know we mostly give it to horses and unicorns, no offense, but vermin should be over the counter, right? We should be buying vermin over the counter. Well, yeah, I do think that, I think that, again, Big Oat and the veterinary cartel is preventing people from acquiring these things from honest merchants like myself and Spintex. All right. All right, Winsprinkle, that's enough. I've had it with your chicanery and your, you Montebank, you, you, you, you, you, you, you. You, charlatan, I've had enough. I won't buy your vermin.

I won't buy your blood-eating animals who should be vegetarians, nonsense. Not a second longer, nay. Nay. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I should have said that. Oh, oh, I'm... Hang on a second. So sorry.

It sucks when you lose your higher ground like this. You know, guys, hang on. I just need to count to ten with my hoof. Yeah. Okay. You just didn't know. You didn't know what you said in that it, it, let me just say, don't say that. Yeah, Natives for horses. Around less enlightened unicorns.

I'm spelling in a totally different way. Yeah, just, just, just take care. Yeah, okay. All right, I'm sorry. And check yourself is what I'm saying. Yes, yes. Check my privilege. It's been a pleasure.

And I will always look back on you guys as dear friends, people who helped show me the way that you guys in many ways were the first step that took me on the road to the blood spattered, incredibly constipated but very happy unicorn that I am today. Don't put that on us. Thank you. I'm so glad we could help. Yeah. Yeah, that's something we can hang our hat on or candle on. Do you have any more oats?

I just want to make sure that they're not here You're confiscating our oats Well I just want to make sure that they're not here to cause any Sure No no that's fine that's fine We got a couple saddlebags I mean I think flower who runs this tavern has about 10 bags of oats Yeah

Outback really yeah really Oh well no wonder everyone around here is so Obviously ill I'll go talk to him about that See if I can bring him around and see if he has any Small animals as well because that goat was great but I do eat like a horse

even though I'm not one and maybe I'm feeling still a little peckish for animals. Meat. Yeah, yeah. Just flour. She's right over there. She's the little flour on the bar. Thank you. Thank you. Take care, guys. You too. Thank you. You too. Be healthy.

Thank you. Arnie, I have to go through this unicorn vomit and see if I can find it a unicorn blood. I'll be right back. Arnie, I can't believe he ate like 1% of grapes. Yeah. Yeah, like grapes is fine. I mean, yeah, grapes is still alive. Just like, just confused.

Yeah, it's not too badly hurt. Also, I've never seen a unicorn in blue jeans before, and they were so tight. I mean, you could see his thigh veins. Like, that is wild. Sort of tapered off towards the hoof. I've never seen someone so healthy, they looked. unhealthy. Are we talking about the blue jeans now? That was crazy, right? That was insane. Yeah. It made you realize how naked they were on the top.

Yeah, and he's kind of jacked on top. Yeah. Let's see what the literature is here. All right, this first pamphlet is called My Wife is Funny and I'm Insane. Interesting, okay? Guess we'll give that a read later. Did we all get the same one or what do we get? Oh, mine's just about crypto. Superman's dog? Yeah? I need that one. For lavish, detailed illustrations of jacked unicorns. I don't know, just open any internet browser and point it anywhere.

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