High Performance Mindset | Learn from World-Class Leaders, Consultants, Athletes & Coaches about Mindset - 12: Chicago Cubs Director of Mental Training Talks Winning Mindset & Big Dreams, Josh Lifrak

Episode Date: October 5, 2015

In this interview, the Director of Mental Training for the Chicago Cubs, Josh Lifrak, discusses the winning mindset and his CUB acronym which guides his work with the organization. His interview is full of passion and energy as he discusses the importance of choosing every day to be the human being that YOU want to be and how to stay awake and aware to be your best. If you are anything like me, you will be cheering the Cubs Organization on in their quest to the World Series after this interview! To follow Josh, check out his active twitter page at @lifrakattack. ********************************************************************* If you would like to learn more about our new program for athletes called "Master Your Mindset for Athletes," you can text "Mentallystrong" (all one word) to 22828 or provide your email and first name at cindrakamphoff.com. We launch this week and will send you more information about the program. Exciting!

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future podcasts automatically. And if you like the message, a five-star rating always helps us get higher on the news and noteworthy section in iTunes. So this is a big week for the Camp Off clan. We are launching our new program for athletes called Master Your Mindset for Athletes. And you can get updates on this program by texting MENTALLYSTRONG, which is all one word, to the number 22828. So again, that's MENTALLYSTRONG, all one word, number 22828. So again, that's mentally strong, all one word to 22828 or joining my email list at cindracampoff.com and I'll be sending you updates on the program this week. So today I am psyched to provide an interview with Josh Liffrack. Now I love Josh's energy and

passion and excitement for this work that you'll clearly feel during this podcast interview. I've known Josh for several years now and I love his passion for life and just helping people reach new levels of performance. Every time I hear him speak, I am so inspired to go after my dreams and goals. And what stood out to me about this interview with Josh today is his big plan for the Cubs organization in terms of mental training. Just like me, I think after the interview, you're going to be cheering the Cubs on all the way to the World Series because he got me pretty stoked about his vision for the Cubs organization. So he talks about his CUB acronym, which I think is pretty sticky and powerful,

and he ends with discussing how each of us has a choice every day to live the life that we want in this world and to show up really our best energy and our best self. So it is a powerful interview full of energy. I think you're going to love it. So without further ado, let's bring on Josh Liffrack. Today, I am stoked to provide an interview with Josh Liffrack. And Josh is the director of mental skills program for the Chicago Cubs. So Josh, tell us about your passion and what you do. Yeah, well, thanks. First of all, Sindra, it's awesome to join you. Those of you listening, if you don't know this, Sindra is one of the best in the biz in terms of sports psychology. So to be on this podcast is an absolute honor for me,

and I really appreciate her taking the time to give us a ring. Ted, you know, my job is I'm the director of mental skills for the Chicago Cubs. It's a great job. I love it. I love working with baseball players. Really, my passion, though, ultimately isn't just baseball players, it's human beings. And the reality of the situation is that in terms of your mind, your mind can create anything you want it to. You can create your life any way you want it to be.

And that's one of the things that I've learned over the years dealing with, you know, teaching mental skills, teaching mental conditioning, sports psychology, that kind of a world, is that however you think is how you're going to be. And that's what we're trying to do. Our goal, just so you guys understand, the Chicago Cubs, obviously, our goal is to win the World Series, but it's a little bit more than that. It's to change the world. So we're going to do that through the vehicle of baseball. And when we win the World Series, it's going to change a lot of people's minds about what's possible and being a human being.

So that's my passion. Josh, I knew that this was going to be awesome. I'm already fired up talking to you at the beginning. So tell me about the motto of changing the world and how do you plan to do that with the Cubs organization? Right. We haven't won a World series in a hundred and some odd years and we're cursed quote unquote and and all this stuff but none of that's true right none of that's true all there is is right now and right here and and so how that changes the world is there's about you know whatever five million six million people in chicago i don't even know how many people live

in chicago but there's a whole bunch of people that never thought that that would be a possible situation the cubs winning the world series so when the cubs win the world series people are going to have to rethink about all their thoughts about life in general and one of the things that we've been promoting and pushing is this positive mindset a growth mindset a belief in the self using the mental, using the mental skills, using the mental tools. We have an incredible manager in Joe Madden who fully and completely believes in our training and really pushes that as well. And so when you have a group of individuals, 25 to 40 individuals playing baseball, and they collectively buy into a mindset of belief, of togetherness,

of working for each other and great things happen. People take a look at that and say, wow, you know, maybe my life can be different, too, if I start doing things this way. Awesome. So you're going to help people see the possibilities for themselves and how they can break their own barriers down. Absolutely. Josh, tell us what you think the high performance mindset is. What does that mean to you? You know, for us, it's different.

You know, I kind of it's funny because I have a little bit of an issue with the word performance, high performance mindset, because we're in baseball and it's either win or you lose. There's no tying. There's no whatever. You know, it's you win or lose you lose there's no tying there's no whatever you know it's you win or lose there's one winner at the end of the year so forming is great but we want to win and so for me high performance is is nice but ultimately I want to know what a winning mindset is I want to know what that mindset is that goes to that next level and for us it's really you know about three factors uh courage the courage to do the things at the right time in the right place, urgency, having the urgency to want to get better right now, and not wait till tomorrow or the urgency to get things done in a, you know, quick manner. And then the belief, the belief to do things the

right way, the belief in yourself, the belief in your teammates, the belief in your coaching staff, the belief in your training. I don't know if you figured out what that analogy is, but C-U-B, it's CUB. Oh, nice, Josh. Awesome. So that's what we say. We say it all over the place. That's CUB. That's CUB. That's CUB. You'll hear it all over our organization. And that's what we say it. We say it all over the place. That's Cub. That's Cub. That's Cub. You'll hear it all over our organization. And that's what we believe in, right? Courage to do things the right way, the urgency to do it right now, and the belief that we're going to get it done. Awesome.

So courage, urgency, and belief. And I love how you put it in this really sticky way for people to remember. And then that way it just allows your athletes to remember it all the time, right? They know what CUB is. Yes, they do. Tell us what barriers that you experience just in terms of implementing mental training with an organization. You know, do you have still people that might say, you know, I don't need to train my brain or why do I need, you know, this growth mindset stuff, this positive mindset stuff? What, you know, what do you do about that, Josh? Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, I'm very lucky to be in the organization that I'm in.

There is a very open mindset to everything that we're doing in terms of the mental skills program. This is year one of our program. So there's initial barriers just in terms of logistics, in terms of getting people to not buy in so much. I mean, I think they're all in, but understand how to work with us rather than, you know, just kind of like, oh, just let them go do their job. You know, so it's a little bit more of the collaborative stuff. And we're getting to that. We're learning. We're learning about the coaches and managers and the players and the players and the managers and the coaches to learn about us. So it's growing. But ultimately, it's a, you know, the biggest barrier, I think, is that I'm not cloned,

that there's not 10 of me out there doing it all the time because, you know, it's just, it's just logistical. We got teams in Venezuela, Dominican Republic, South Bend, Indiana, Knoxville, Tennessee, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Des Moines, Iowa, Phoenix, Arizona, or Mesa, Arizona. And then obviously our big club. So, you know, there's a lot of kids, too. There's probably about 300 kids that we're trying to reach and a lot of different staffs and stuff. So those are the biggest barriers.

It's just I can't be everywhere at the same time. Not yet. I'm figuring that one out yet. So I'm getting there, though. Wouldn't that be great if we could just clone ourselves? Yeah, let's go. I could get so much more done if there was two of me or five of me. So, Josh, tell us about how you actually teach the CUB mindset, the courage, urgency, and belief. For those people who are just curious more about how you do what you do, tell us just briefly how you might do that.

Well, I mean, I think there's a three-way process. And I know you talked to the great Dr. Angus Mugford a couple weeks ago, and I obviously worked with Angus for 10 years at IMG. And, you know, one of the principles that we came up with down there was, you know, education, application, and support. And that's really how we go about our business. We educate the guys on, you know, different principles and the different, you know, science of the brain and how we think and how we can change our thoughts and, you know, all sorts of stuff, cognitive behavioral stuff, whatever, visualization, and we'll educate them on that. And then we'll help

them apply it, apply it on the field, in the cages, on the mound, in the dugouts, wherever we are, I'll support them through the process of growth. So that's always been our model. That's the way I've learned how to do it as a professional, and we're sticking to it because it kind of works. So education, application, and support. Excellent. And Josh, what do you see in terms of working with the best, the nation's best performers?

What do you see? What separates them from others? What separates the really good ones from those that just maybe get into the organization? nation's best performers, what do you see, what separates them from others? You know, what separates the really good ones for those, from those that just, you know, maybe get into the organization, but they don't stay or they don't keep on moving up to the big leagues? Yeah, a game of baseball is their work. And there's a lot of differences between jobs and work, but work ultimately has a purpose. There's something, there's something bigger behind it. There's something more that can drive them. You think about Simon Sinek's, you know, what's your why type stuff. You know, there's a why there for those guys.

And it leads them to being professionals. And what I mean by that is they understand that the game of baseball is a craft, right? And they're going to cultivate that craft and they're going to work that craft and they're going to keep, you know, they're not going to be satisfied. They go in and they go four for four, three for four. They're happy, but they also know, hey, there's more to do. There's more to do. I can get better than I am right now. Maybe I got to work on my fielding. Maybe I got to work on, you know, my base running, whatever. They're always trying to find another way, another level of getting better. So that satisfaction being sated

never happens. So they don't settle, but they're honest with themselves in terms of what can they really improve on? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And, you know, I know you've worked with a lot of different sports, Josh. So what do you think in terms of what what's different in terms of baseball compared to the other sports that you work with? Yeah, have with yeah no it's funny i always think baseball and golf golf are the most similar um sports in in this sense that baseball players and golfers spend an inordinate amount of time in their own mind right so you think about soccer you think about basketball think about even football it's lots of action lots lots of action, lots of action. And it's kind of fluid. Right. I mean, even American football, it's a play.

You have to think about the play. There's this, there's that. And then it's go. Whereas baseball, it's stop in your own mind, in your own mind, in your own mind, in your own mind. Get back in the box. Go. You know, and it's and it's and the action of baseball, which is kind of crazy, is in a three and a half hour game or three hour game, I'm a right fielder and I may have nine minutes of physical action that impact the game. I might get two or three balls hit to me. I might have three or four at bats. Maybe the three or four at bats last a couple minutes each. There's a lot of time in your own mind, I guess, is the biggest thing where, and it's not so fluid, it's stop, start, stop, start. So it kind of really works for us in terms of mental skills. There's a lot to do

there. It's a lot to do to be able to clean out. I always talk about erasing the board, right? Think about a chalkboard and you put a bunch of things on the chalkboard. Well, if there's a ton of things already on the chalkboard, there's no room to write anything new. So, and it's very tough to focus on any one thing because there's a ton of things on it. Well, if you erase that chalkboard and you get that nice and clean, then you can write whatever you want to write in there. And if you know what to write, if you know what to focus on, then you can write it clearly, boldly, loudly, and the people can see it and understand it. How do you teach them? How do you erase the chalkboard or

erase their mind? Really kind of what you're saying, stay in the current play. Yeah, we do a lot of meditation with our players. And we're going to be implementing that over more and more. So we've been really talking about being mindful and having a mindfulness practice, because mindfulness isn't just now here and now it's it's a practice you got to keep working at it and so we've done a lot of that we definitely talk about getting into routine inside the box outside the box we're lucky enough to work with Dr. Ken Reviza as well he works with our big league club and he's amazing you know and so he really he really pounds that that routine routine place routine place hard and loud.

Our guys really understand the value of it. Really, for us, it's being able to wipe the slate clean so we can get into the fight. If you think about a boxer or MMA guy, if they go into the ring with anything other than what they're about to do, it's going to get ugly quick. We talk to our players about that as well. Hey, you're getting in a fight right now. You're getting in the box. This is a fight. Get yourself ready. they're about to do, it's going to get ugly quick. So we kind of talk to our players about that as well as, hey, you're getting in a fight right now. You're getting in the box. This is a fight.

Get yourself ready. How are you going to get yourself clean and get in there? You know, if anybody wants to check out Ken Raviz's work, he's at Cal State Fullerton as a professor. And I really like, what's that? He just retired. Oh, he did? Wow, I didn't know that.

But I really like his book, Heads Up Baseball, because, yeah because it's really helped me just when I've worked with baseball players as well. So if anybody's interested in that, check it out. One of the things that you already mentioned, Josh, was the importance of your athletes having their why front and center and how that drives them. So what's your why, and why are you doing doing what you do and what fuels you every day to keep on going with it? There's really a couple different factors. I think number one is like we talked about earlier, there's a bigger purpose to what we do. And, you know, our mission statement for the mental skills program is we're here to develop winning people. That's our job. That's our work, excuse me. That's our work is to develop winning people. So for me, that's my why, is helping these guys and seeing these guys get it.

When they get it, when that moment clicks, when you see them doing something that maybe they weren't doing a month before or two months before, when you see them really locking in and taking a breath and getting themselves clear, when you see them having a in and taking a breath and getting themselves clear, when you see them, you know, having a better mindset about things and a better attitude about things, man, that's what it's all about for us is impacting lives. Ultimately, you know, maybe, maybe 10 of our minor leaguers are going to make it to the major leagues, you know, throughout the years, maybe 12, 15, you know, we got 300. So we're using baseball as a vehicle for

development of human beings. That's passionate. I love that. Tell us about a time that you failed, Josh, what you learned from it. And so that can help, you know, us learn from our mistakes and our failures as well. Yeah, I think the biggest failure I've ever had professionally was working with a high profile division one football team, and we were ranked really high in the preseason and ended up being just awful. And it was my first go-around in a big Division I football setting, and had I to do it again, I would have laid the groundwork for success.

In other words, I was letting them drive the bus and telling me what to do versus, hey, this is how it works best. I'm the expert in this specific field in mental conditioning. I know this. I know how to do this. I know how it works best. This is how we're going to set it up. That was my learning lesson is I should have gone about it that way versus just kind of hanging around and just being happy to be there. I think that's my biggest failure as a professional. It's funny because it was a massive success too because it was this huge D1 school just to get the contract, but the failure was not implementing and executing the way that we know how we can do. And what did you learn in terms of like what you can, what do you do differently now?

I mean, especially starting with the Cubs my guess is you laid the groundwork pretty clearly on what you are about and what your philosophy is so I mean I have a five-year plan really I mean we've laid out about three or four of them in paper but in my mind it's about four or five years um and so that's been laid out uh very clearly and accurately with very specific goals to meet and very specific criteria to accomplish. And I think that's good for anybody doing anything, making sure that you know where you're going. Even this year, planning for our instructional league here that's just going to start next week, being able to go back to last year's and just documented everything and just take a look at it where we

were successful where we need to get better you know we're constantly evaluating i think that's another thing we talk about um you know had enough time around the military and whatnot and and there's something in the military called after action reports aars and those are fantastic just being able to sit down after you've done a season and go okay where did we do well where can we do better you know go after and instruct where do we do well? Where can we do better? You know, go after and instruct. Where did we do well? Where did we do better? You know, and then, you know, spring training.

So those are, you know, types of things we're constantly documenting. And then we also have very set goals that we're expected, that I'm expecting my team to meet and that I'm expecting to meet myself. So you have it well laid out. You have a clear plan on what you plan to do with the Cubs in terms of mental conditioning. And you got it. You got it in your mind. Now it's just taking action. Josh, tell us about an aha moment that you've had in your career and how it can help us learn something about high performance.

There's been so many of them and they're constantly happening. I think that's the big key. I think the aha moment is just being awake and aware, right? I remember the British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, was talking about, you know, when the Buddha was at his deathbed and they asked him, you know, what the secret to life was, he said, stay awake. And that's it. You know, just stay awake, stay aware, stay open. And I think the thing in baseball that's really different from other mental conditioning situations is that they how you perform as a mental conditioning coach in baseball is very similar to the game in the sense that there'll be days where not much happens. You don't talk to a lot. You talk to guys, but you don't do a lot of work. You're just kind of around and you're being there.

And then the moment happens and you know, like then you have 10 guys asking you a question and you have to know the answer right then and right there. And you've got to be prepared to have the right stuff, go and give them tools to use in that situation. You can't go, I don't know, man, whatever you think, it's not going to work, you know, and you can't make something up either because you have to be authentic about it. And so that's been a kind of a learning lesson for me in professional baseball is the, you know, I was talking to

my friend, Justin Sua, and he talked about, you know, letting the game come to you. And sometimes you got to do that in the game of baseball. Yeah. What do you mean by that? Let the game come to you. You got to be patient. And just what I talked about, you got to, I'm a excitable, energetic guy who wants to get things done now, but sometimes getting things done now isn't the right time to do. And so you have to wait for those open opportunities. I just heard a great story about, you know, butterflies and cocoons and caterpillars. And, you know, if as a caterpillar tries to break out of the cocoon, if you go and you touch the caterpillar and try and help it, help it, you know, help help it become a't strong enough. So it ends up dying. So you have to let it struggle. You have to let it struggle to fight its way out of the cocoon. And then it's strong enough to fly. A lot of times that's what you have to do is you have to step back and let the kids

figure it out on their own, give them the tools to figure it out. But you got to step back. There was a kid, one of our prospects this year was like one for 25 at one point. And I just looked at him. I said, look, you're going to figure it out. I'm here to help. But I know you can do this. And I know you know you can do this. And I'm just going to be here on the sidelines. And when you figure it out, let me know where it is.

And that advice for him was really he really appreciated that because he had already had five people come up to him to try and fix him, quote unquote. What you just said was really impactful. You know, when I asked you about your aha moment, you said they happen all the time. You just have to be awake and aware. Love that. And then the importance of struggling that you can't just intervene with someone to make it better, that we all have to struggle and let the game come to us. So we believe here at the High Performance Mindset, Josh,

that you should have dreams that are a little scary because if you just have dreams that you know you can reach and it becomes comfortable, you don't stretch yourself. So tell us about a dream that you have that might be a little scary. Pig piling on the mountain in Wrigley Field after we win the World Series. That's all of our dreams right now that's it i mean that that to me would be that's that's that's it that's the pinnacle for us right now once once i get there and i jump on that pile and drink the champagne and all that good stuff and stay up for three straight days

then i'll sit another one but right now that's it. That's awesome. Um, and what's scary about that? Cause it hasn't been done in 104 years, 103 years or whatever. I don't even know how many years it is. It's like a hundred and change. I don't even know what the change is though. It's just a hundred plus. So it doesn't matter. You know, I, I, I don't know. It's, it's, it's not scary though. It's exciting, you know, but it keeps me up at night. It keeps me up because I'm constantly, how can we do it? How can we do it? How can we help? How can we help? How can we help? And so that's, you know, that's what keeps me up at night, but it's not scary. It's exciting. It's exciting. Yeah, I'm going to be so excited for the Cubs when they win the World Series, Josh.

I'm going to be following along. So, Josh, I know I sent you the top ten traits of high performers. Which one do you think that you exhibit the most on that list? In terms of me, it's probably a little bit of the coachability factor, being able to be willing to just be open to things. I don't have the list right in front of me, so I kind of forget exactly all of them, but I know coachability was one of them. This is what they were.

They're gritty, so they kind of work towards their goals, which you're talking quite a bit about grit. They know their why. They master their thinking. They have high self-awareness. They control the controllables, choose empowering emotions. They're comfortable being uncomfortable. They are themselves, so they're authentic. They're compassionate, so they can get over mistakes.

And then they dominate the moment. So the top 10 traits of high performers, Josh, do you think that you exhibit the most? I have a clear purpose at work right now, without a doubt, win the World Series. So that one is pretty clear. And we've defined it also in terms of developing, you know, winning human beings. So those are pretty clear. I think in terms of myself, the one I need to work on, without a doubt, is choosing empowering emotions.

I'm a pretty emotional guy. And so frustration is a real factor for me. And I need to work on that. But, you know, I think that helps in terms of number one, which is grittiness. And I think that that for me, I'm willing to get dirty. I'm willing to stay classy, but get dirty. Right. And I think you have to do that in our field. You just stay classy, get dirty. So taking the high road on things, but willing to be on the road, willing to be, you know, 150 days away from your family, willing to be, you know, just fighting through when you're really tired and still getting work done. So those those are ones I think for me, the having a clear purpose and being gritty. And then I really need to work on the the emotion

thing. We're going to go to the speed round. And so just think of the first thing that comes your mind. Just answer it. You know, you just mentioned, Josh, that you do a lot of reading. So what's one one book that you'd recommend us to read or maybe someone to follow or a podcast that you listen to that could help the audience? Yeah, a book, The Art of Learning. That's the best book I've written, sorry, written, read in the last five years. It's Josh Watskin, I believe is his last name. Phenomenal, phenomenal book. Number two, podcast that I listen to,

obviously The High Performance Mindset by Cedric Ampon. But, you know, Entrepreneurship, I think out of Nashville, Tennessee, those guys are great. Then Radiolab out of New York City, a good friend of mine works as the sound engineer there. It's phenomenal, phenomenal. It just gets you thinking about different things in life and science. They do a great job in terms of putting together podcasts. What's one word that people would describe you as, Josh? Energetic. I agree.

Loud's another one. What's the best advice that you've received that has helped you today? The best advice that I've received is, you know, stay true to yourself, be yourself without a doubt. I think that's the hugest thing is be authentic. I mean, that's the best way to put it. It's impossible to be someone else, right? We can't be.

Somebody else is already taken, right? Exactly. And what's a success quote that you live by? Or is there a phrase that you continually think about? Yeah, things turn out best for those that make the best out of the way things turn out. John Wooden. So that one, that's it. Things turn out best for those that make the best out of the way things turn out. John Wooden. So that one, that's it. Things turn out best for those that make the best out of the way things turn out. So you're going to get stuff all the time. Life is 10% what happens and 90%

how you react. So react well, because you're going to get a bunch of stuff that you probably don't want. You're going to get some stuff that you love, but it doesn't matter. What matters is how you address that and deal with it and who you're being in those moments. And final question, Josh, what advice would you have for any high performers who are listening? So that would be athletes, coaches, entrepreneurs, business leaders. What advice do you have them about mindset? I think ultimately is, you know, you get a choice every single day of who you're going to be in anything that you do. Right. And I want to be clear that I'm talking about being because we're human beings. We're not human doings. And so decide who you're going to be energetic, enthusiastic, and compassionate, well, guess what? My actions are going to follow that. So you always have to be who you're going to be

before you can go and do what you're going to do. Awesome. Awesome. So, Josh, if people want to follow you, or I know people want to follow you because you are so inspiring today, what would be the best way that they can connect with you? Yeah, catch me on Twitter. I think that's the best way.

I'm putting up stuff there all the time, mostly, honestly, for my guys because I have a lot of the minor leaguers follow me on Twitter, so a lot of the stuff that I put out is for them, but it can certainly be fun and interesting for others. We just finished the season. about halfway through the season. We ended up doing the word of the day. One of the minor league players, uh, the story behind it was just, Hey, you know, Hey man, what's the word? And I didn't have a word talk about being ready. And so I was like, okay,

well I don't have a word today, but I'm going to have a word every day for the rest of the season. And so on Twitter we ended up doing a word of the day. Um, and it was just like a word to live by, you know, kind of, kind of going off of John Gordon's, you know, word of the year kind of deal. So we just said, hey, word to live by for the day. My personal favorite one was Sasquatch. I don't know why, but I just love that word. And how does that help you? Tell us more about Sasquatch. I don't know. I just, it was just hilarious. I just, I was laughing about it. Actually, it was, it was cause we were,

I was out in Eugene, Oregon and they have a giant Sasquatch in front of the, our home stadium, the university of Oregon's stadium. We use that. And, and we had gotten beaten the night before. And I was thinking about those, those beef jerky commercials with Sasquatch in them. And even if he gets, even if he gets punked, he ends up like throwing the guy all over the place. So my thought was, Hey, we're, we're going to be Sasquatch tonight. We're just not going to take anything. We're going to go and beat the heck out of these guys.

Love it, Josh. What's your Twitter handle for those who want to listen? At Liffrak Attack. L-I-F-R-A-K Attack. Awesome. Josh, I just want to thank you so much for joining us today and for helping people master their mindset who are listening. There are so many important things that I heard you talk about. The things that stood out to me was the C.U.B. acronym, having courage to do the right thing, having urgency, and then having

the belief that you can do it. Other things that stood out to me was being awake and aware for those aha moments because they're coming at you every single day, you know, and it's just not something that happens just once in every five years.

If you're really paying attention, those aha moments can come up more frequently. You talked about making a choice every day to being the best human that you can be in showing up at really at your best self.

So I just want to thank you so much for taking the time and joining us today, Josh, you're, you're a rock star. My absolute pleasure. Come on, man. You're the rock star. You've got like 75,000 Twitter followers. You know, I can only dream. I find it quite scary to have more followers than Sindra on Twitter. And I am going to be cheering the Cubs on all the way to the World Series. Let's go. Thank you, Josh.

Appreciate it. When we win, I'll come back on and I'll sing the song for you. Okay? That'll be perfect. And we'll all be celebrating with you. Awesome. Well, thank you, Sindra. Thanks for the time today.

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