High Performance Mindset | Learn from World-Class Leaders, Consultants, Athletes & Coaches about Mindset - 14: Olympic Hopeful & 2-Time Cancer Survivor Talks Resilence, Gabe Grunewald

Episode Date: October 20, 2015

Gabriele Grunewald is an Olympic hopeful who competes for the USA in the 1500, 3000 and 5000 meters. Gabe is current ranked 19th in the world in the 1500 and is the 3rd American on that list. She is a...n US Indoor Champion in the 3000 meters. Gabe is a 2-time cancer survivor. She was diagnosed with cancer twice while competing at the University of Minnesota. During this interview, is she talks about how cancer made her stronger mentally. She has learned to be resilient - bouncing back from races that don’t go like she expected and working to not sweat the small stuff. She provides incredible high performance mindset nuggets today including finding your best runner self, reframing pressure as important for performance, and faking it until you make it. You can follow Gabrielle in her quest to become an Olympian at @gg_runs and http://www.gabrielegrunewald.com/.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 And you know you will always receive a positive message from me. So today, I'm inspired to provide an interview with Gabe Grunewald. Gabe is an Olympic hopeful who competes for the United States in the mile, the 3000 and the 5000. Gabe is currently ranked 19th in the world in the 1500 and is the third American on that list. She's also an indoor champion in the 3000. Gabe is sponsored by Brooks Running Company and she's also a two-time cancer survivor. She was diagnosed with cancer twice while competing at the University of Minnesota. And what I absolutely love about this interview, she talks about how cancer made her stronger
Starting point is 00:02:53 mentally. She's learned to be resilient, bouncing back from races that don't go as she expected, and working to not sweat the small stuff. She provides incredible high- performance mindset nuggets today, including finding your best running self, reframing pressure as important to your performance, and how it can actually help make diamonds, and the importance of confidence and faking it until you make it. I've had the privilege of working personally with Gabe on the mental side of performance, so it's pretty cool that she is open to talking about that.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I'm very grateful for her and her words today. When elite athletes talk about working with a sports psychology consultant, I think it helps grow the field and shows others that the importance of training your mind is really important. I love Gabe's story. And my friends, I know you will be inspired to get through any difficulty after listening to this. So let's bring on Gabe. Welcome to the High Performance Mindset. This is your host, Cyndra Kampoff, and I'm really excited today to provide an interview with Gabe Grunewald. So Gabe, can you start us off and tell us a little bit about what you're passionate
Starting point is 00:04:01 about and tell us what you're doing right now? I feel really fortunate to be pursuing my dreams as a professional runner. I am a lifelong Minnesotan, and I've been running since, you know, I was in the later years of elementary school, and I was lucky. I fell in love with running early, and it's been a really fun journey for me from somewhat humble beginnings to pursuing Olympic dreams. So that's where I'm at right now. It's 2015. And I've had five good years as a professional runner, but I'm really looking to cap things off next year with the Olympic year. I'm really excited. Awesome. So Gabe, tell us,
Starting point is 00:04:39 you know, just briefly about how you got to be at the professional level in terms of a professional runner what's your story on getting there I have been really fortunate to have worked with a lot of good coaches over the years but I started off as a runner at perm high school and I was a decent runner but nothing nothing spectacular I wasn't setting records I wasn't or setting state records I wasn't winning every single race. But I did win one state title on the track, and that was kind of just the little push that I needed to consider running Division I. And that was something that I was really unsure if I could handle that challenge
Starting point is 00:05:18 back when I was in high school. But I knew I loved running, and I knew that I wanted to see how good I could be. And I knew that in order to do that, I needed to kind of push myself. So I ended up walking on to run for the Gophers and Gary Wilson at the University of Minnesota. And that's kind of where I, you know, had my transformation from a, you know, an average college runner to, you know, reaching sort of the top of the collegiate ranks. And within that time at the University of Minnesota, I had the great pleasure of running on many really successful teams. And I had a great team experience at the University of Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Throughout that time, I also became a cancer survivor. And that is definitely a big part of my story as a runner and, and sort of how I sort of how I found my best runner self after cancer. And that was something that was a huge challenge for me when I was 22 years old. But it kind of gave me a little bit of clarity and a little sense of urgency with my running that I think I finally realized how to put things together in my running, not only physically, but mentally and emotionally. And after I became a cancer survivor, I became, you know, my big dream as the Golden Gopher was to become an All-American. And I had one final track season after I had cancer. And I took second place in the nation. And that was really what catapulted me to consider a professional career, but it was a really, it was really a crazy sort of last,
Starting point is 00:06:52 last season as a college runner. And I had not even considered running professionally before that. So it's been a, it's been a really fun journey with some twists and turns along the way, but I'm, I'm still loving running and happy to be healthy and yeah, still getting after it. I can just hear your passion in your voice, Gabe. What I found really inspiring, what you just talked about was how cancer really allowed you to run your fastest race, but also find your best self, your best runner self, as you said.
Starting point is 00:07:26 What is that best runner self for you? For me, I think a lot, a big part of it was, you know, facing fear head on and instead of being afraid of failure, which I think I struggled with a little bit before I had cancer, I think I just became more excited about opportunities and more grateful for the talents I had and just overall more, more motivated to see what I could do. And I think after I had cancer, it finally like the excitement for seeing, finding out what I could do finally took over the fear of, you know, maybe falling short. And so that was a huge learning lesson for me just as a life lesson. I think that people can do that without going through something like cancer and an adverse experience. But for me, it was just a transforming experience. And it just
Starting point is 00:08:18 allowed me to take a step back and see myself and my opportunities in a different way. And ultimately helped me see, you know, some of my strengths that I had in myself that I didn't see before. So we talk of the high performance mindset, Gabe, about keeping your why front and center. That helps you keep motivated when the going gets tough. So tell us why you do what you do and why you continue to be a professional runner and go after your goals of making it to the Olympics. Finding yourself as a professional in a sport like running, it's really special because it's not necessarily, you know, it's not the unique opportunity and something that is once in a lifetime, something that I want to take advantage of. And I did not expect to find myself as an Olympic hopeful.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Even, I mean, in 2012, I didn't necessarily even expect to see myself there. So it's been, you know, a career where I've surprised myself a lot with what I'm capable of. And so for me, the main goal is to sort of just learn how to reach my potential in running. And I think we all have special gifts that we've been given. And I have been on a really special journey with my running. And for me, it's just about finding my best self as a person and as a runner. And I think that, you know, doing that, working hard, being on this journey, it's not easy every day. But I think, and especially through my experiences as a cancer survivor, I think,
Starting point is 00:09:56 you know, still getting out there and trying to reach my potential. I hope that, I think that's important for all of us to do. And this just happens to be the way that I think I've been called to do this right now. But I hope that ultimately I hope that I can inspire other people to reach for their potential and other things and, you know, work through those tough times. And I think that's kind of that's what I see in in my running for myself. And, you know, just being a cancer survivor and going after your goals with passion and persistence, what do you think separates you mentally from other people that you compete against? Yeah, that's tough because when you get to this level, it's very, really competitive and it's really cutthroat and everybody knows what they're doing out there to some extent. For me as a cancer survivor, I do think, you know, I'm good at seeing the big picture for sure. And keeping things in perspective has definitely been a strength of mine. I think I tend to not, I think one of the things that has helped me is just not sweating
Starting point is 00:10:57 the little things, you know, keep that hope that, you know, next day is going to be better, the next race will be better. And I guess on that note, I think I, I bounced back from, from poor performances and disappointing races, maybe, um, quicker than some people. I am always kind of looking to the next, the next race. And I think I learned to be resilient through those cancer experiences. And I think I hope at least that that shows through. Absolutely. What do you see, you know, just competing against some of the world's best? What do you think separates those that are really, really good from those maybe that are just average who are trying to be professional runners, but don't make it? What do you see mentally that separates them? Yeah, I that's a great question. And I think I have had had a few years to observe.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And especially from I mean, I see a lot few years to observe and especially from, I mean, I see a lot of the middle distance women who are at the very, very top of our sport. And those are who I kind of am competing against and, you know, have seen over the years. And I think what stands out to me is that, you know, there's not one way to do things. And on race day, competition day, in the days leading up to it, I think that it's really important to be in your own zone. But I think what surprised me is that it's really, it can be different for everyone. And so some of the women, you know, they just have different personalities. And I think what stands out to me is whatever, I think that the ones who do the best are the ones who are really in touch with themselves and what works for them. And they don't doubt it. And they if they want to be,
Starting point is 00:12:32 you know, more interactive and social before they run, that's what they do. They embrace it, they embrace who they are, and they know what works for them. Cool. There's not just one way to be successful or have a success mindset. Right. You know, Gabe, it reminds me of in my top 10 traits of high performers, I have one trait that says that, you know, high performers work to kind of consciously be authentic, like they show up as themselves. I think that's what you're saying is, you know, if you're not comfortable with who you are and the way that you need to mentally prepare, then it's going to be difficult for you to perform at your best. Absolutely. So, Gabe, tell us about a time that you failed, what you learned from it so, you know, we
Starting point is 00:13:14 can learn from your story as well. Some that stand out to me, I think in 2011, that was my first year as a professional runner and I really wanted to have a good showing at the U.S. Outdoor Championships and I really wanted to place in the top six because I had been seventh the year before and long story short I made the final and I was feeling good about it but I just kind of blew up in the final and I think I was like second to last place and it just didn't go well and I was really bummed because I felt that I was capable of more. But I look back at that now, and I do think that it was an important experience for me to sort of fail. I fell short of my goal, and I really did get humbled out there.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I think fitness-wise, and it was important, though, because it opened my eyes to the fact that, you know, maybe this is a process that's going to take more than a year. And also I think that failure and not getting, you know, that instant success in that first year out, it made me a little bit more willing to put myself out there in my training and racing and be really motivated for the Olympic year, which went a little bit better for me. So I think that, you know, it wasn't a huge failure, but it was enough for me to, you know, take a look in the mirror and evaluate where I was at and realize that there's going to be learning along the way. And also that maybe I need to step up my game in some other ways. And so that type of failure can be, it can be useful. And I
Starting point is 00:14:41 definitely used it going into the next year. Yeah, even though it's disappointing at the moment, you realize how it helps you in your journey and it made you a stronger runner, more passionate about going after your goals and your dreams. Yeah, definitely. Take us to the best moment in your career and why it was so awesome. Yeah, I think for me, one of the races that really stands out is my final collegiate race was the NCAA Championships 1500 in 2010. That was sort of like the, it was kind of the capstone of my comeback from having had cancer the previous year. And I really wanted to end on a positive note. And that season had been going so well, but I really had no idea what I was capable of on the national level. And I had never even qualified for an NCAA outdoor championship previously. And, um, it was a very eyeopening moment. Um, I took
Starting point is 00:15:38 second place in the race and just, it was a race where I got to utilize my strong kick at the end and last 100 meters, I think I went from fifth to second. And my main goal in that race was to be an All-American. And I think all I had to do was finish to be an All-American due to the people who were in the race that year. So that wasn't probably a high enough goal. But it was a culmination of just a really long and special journey for me. And really one of the first races that made me wonder if I was capable of more than I ever thought, because I got second and I was totally blown away by that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And I think if you see pictures of me, it's still funny for me to look back at pictures because if you look at pictures from this race, when I cross the line my arms are up in the air and I'm like have this like huge smile on my face and I look like I won the race and I didn't I look like way happier than the girl that won which is super funny but um it's because I I did feel like I won that race even though I got second just because it was just such a meaningful performance for me. And I just really wanted to put it together for all the people who had supported me throughout the previous year that had been a pretty tough year. It had just been such an emotional journey. And for me to wrap it all up in that race was really, really special. And it sounds like it was really symbolic of winning your fight against cancer that you could
Starting point is 00:17:02 like overcome this big thing in your life and to come out on top. That's really cool. Really inspiring, Gabe. Tell us about an aha moment that you've had in your career and how it helped you learn something and how it helped us learn something about ourselves. Yeah, I think for me, one of the biggest and most important journeys that I had been on to get to where I am now is within my college experience, really going from, you know, not the best runner on the team, not even close. I was walk-on. I wasn't on scholarship. I wasn't necessarily making the travel team right away. So throughout those years, along the way, I learned how to take a step back from sort of the girls on the team who were doing really well doing things that I
Starting point is 00:17:51 wanted to do. And I just learned how to take a step back and just observe the people who were doing what I wanted to be doing. And even though I wasn't there yet, I kind of just learning how to observe and like, see what it takes to improve and succeed. It really like kind of opened my eyes and I learned how to try to associate with and surround myself with people who are who are better than me. And I learned a lot from them about training and about, you know, how to balance my life and fit in all the things that I needed to to be a successful athlete and student and all of those things. But I think I had the, you know, the aha moment probably just like watching people be successful
Starting point is 00:18:33 and just really like taking notes in my mind from them and learning how to do that while I was in college. I think it was just something that allowed me to improve over those five years rather than, you know, maybe get stuck in a rut. So that was just a it was just like an important skill for me to learn. You know, I think about how Jim Rohn says that you're the average of your five closest friends. So it's cool that you're just providing some, you know, examples of watching successful people and what you can learn from them and how that really helped you be successful in college. Yeah. So, Gabe, you know, we believe at the high performance mindset that if your dreams don't scare you, they aren't big enough because if you just dream small, you're not going to be you're not going to push yourself to really reach your full capacity. So
Starting point is 00:19:19 what's one of the dreams that you have that that's, you know, kind of anxiety provoking, can be a little scary at times? Yeah, well, right now I's, you know, kind of anxiety provoking, can be a little scary at times? Yeah, well, right now I just, you know, this is, I'm getting butterflies just thinking about next year. I want to be an Olympian, and I know I really feel like I have what it takes. It's something that I came close to doing in 2012, and, you know, I really look at 2016 as, like, a culmination of, you know, my evolution as a runner and I'm it will be a very big challenge to do that next year and I'm already looking to how I can challenge myself this year to get ready for that big challenge so it's going to be fun but yeah I want to be an Olympian next year it's very simple to me but it's certainly anxiety and butterfly feeling producing when I talk about it,
Starting point is 00:20:05 certainly. Oh, good. So it means that you're pushing yourself to go after it. What do you expect to be running at the trials for those who will be watching the Olympic trials next year watching for you? Yeah, well, I have primarily competed as a 1500 meter runner and I dabble in the 3k and the 5k a little bit next year I'm still actually waiting to see the Olympic trial schedule be released but I do think you'll see me probably compete in both the 1500 and the 5000 meters I'm not sure which one will be first in the trial schedule but uh the goal is to have two shots in both of those sort of middle distance races and uh I'm hoping to prepare myself the best I can to have
Starting point is 00:20:46 a shot in both of those events next year. I think in the months leading up to the trials, I'll know better what my focus will be out of those two. But I think I will compete in both of them. You know, and most of the time, Gabe, when I have athletes on, I ask them, you know, if you've worked with a sports psychology professional, what's one or two takeaways that you have from the experience? And I know you and I have an incredible opportunity to work together for the last couple of years. So why don't you share with those who are listening, what are, you know, what are some takeaways that you've gotten from the experience of just learning to use your mind and train
Starting point is 00:21:20 your mind to be successful and help you go after that dream of going to the Olympics? Absolutely. I think it's working with a sports psychologist like Sindhra. It's been really good for me because I think I've been able to identify my strengths and weaknesses mentally and learn what I need to work on. And for me, sometimes that involves just gathering you know, gathering the race day confidence. I've noticed that sometimes it's hard. I feel confident, you know, in the days leading up to the race.
Starting point is 00:21:51 But that race day anxiety sort of sets in and I back off a little bit from my goals just because of, you know, I get a little scared. And I think we all do. So something that has been really helpful for me is just to work on that inner dialogue and producing those confident thoughts that are positive, productive, full of possibility, powerful, and, you know, somewhat, and also having something process oriented. But so those are like, that's a specific thing that I worked on. But really just having the thought, the inner, inner dialogue and confident mindset and working on it more as, you know, a way, thinking of it as structuring my thoughts in a way that is productive has been helpful for me. And another thing that has been helpful is just working on that highlight reel of things that I've done well and reminding myself about those things on the day of the race when those doubts start to set in. I think that
Starting point is 00:22:45 has been really helpful for me to just those things that, you know, we sort of need to carry with us into the moment when we might want to back off. That has been key for me. Key takeaways. Yes. Yeah. So powerful, productive thinking patterns and imagery, which is like your highlight reel, has helped you be more confident on race day. Cool, Gabe. Thanks for sharing that with the listeners. I think for those who haven't been introduced to mental training or sports psychology, I think that's really helpful for those who are listening. So tell us, you know, of the top 10 traits of high performers,
Starting point is 00:23:17 which one do you think that you exhibit most? Like, which one of those traits do you say like, oh, yeah, that's totally me. You know, I would kind of rate myself high really high on that consistently yeah I think the ones that stood out to me I think I am gritty I've I've gotten that down over the years um I'm just you know sort of developing that toughness that it takes to do the complete the training at this level and just sort of stay in the grind and stay in the game mentally when the racing season gets tough. I think grittiness is definitely one of my top qualities.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But I also do think the other one that stood out to me was probably self-awareness. And I do think that over the years, for sure, I've become definitely more aware of kind of what's going on in my mind and, you know, identifying what I need to work on. And sometimes that works to my advantage. And sometimes maybe I'm overly aware of what I'm not doing well. But I think overall, that self-awareness helps us be our best. So I think, yeah, those two stood out to me. So grit means, you know, having passion and perseverance for your long-term goals and self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And what about one of those top 10 traits of high performers that you see yourself kind of still working on? Is there one of them that, you know, it's like, gosh, yep, I could improve on that. And the reason that I'm asking that is just to kind of emphasize that everybody's a work in progress, you know, that we aren't high on all of these traits all the time. I do sometimes think, you know, dominating the moment for me is something I'm still working on. I have, I think that stood out to me. Sometimes, especially being a runner in this sport, you have to be ready on a specific day in a specific race. And so it's really critical to be able to dominate the moment. And sometimes I feel like, for me, I look back at some of my championship performances,
Starting point is 00:25:13 and some are really great and some are less great. And, you know, there's just like a little bit of inconsistency there. And that's something that I am absolutely looking to improve upon. Every time I get a chance to take advantage of a race opportunity. I want to just to try to harness that into more consistency. Right, because you're you can't you can't change the time or the weather or, you know, if it's at seven o'clock p.m. or seven o'clock a.m., you got to be ready. Exactly. Yes. So that or 7 o'clock a.m., you got to be ready. Exactly. Yeah. So that's something I'm working on.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You betcha. So, Gabe, we're going to go to the speed round. And what I want you to do is think about the first thing that comes to mind and just answer it as quickly as you can. So can you think of like maybe a book or a podcast or somebody that you follow that inspires you and tell us why that'd be something you'd recommend that we check out. Yeah, I guess someone that comes to mind for me right away is I follow Lauren Fleshman on all social media. And I just really, really think that she is a good model of her, especially runners, female runners.
Starting point is 00:26:24 She lives her life quite authentically and I just I really love to follow her journey and I think that she shares some really important things especially for you know people who are going through life transitions or you know tough stuff she's gone through injuries she's a mom she's married to another pro athlete and I think that she just has a really good perspective on life and I'm younger than her and also in the running world and she has accomplished a lot so I really do look up to her and I just like I like her attitude and her determination so she's one of my definite that's who I might start with so Lauren Fleshman I love her spirit just you can tell it just from her
Starting point is 00:27:01 writing and from even her posts on Twitter. What's one word that people describe you as, Gabe? Oh, I don't know. I actually, I texted my sister this, actually, because I thought it was funny. I wanted to know her answer. So I'll tell you what she said. What'd she say? She said feisty. And I was like, okay, I don't know if that's what I would have chosen, but I'll take it. Fight me. Awesome. And what's the best advice you've ever received? So I think some of the best advice I've received is kind of just, this takes me back to college as well,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but it's just the idea of faking it until you make it. I really actually like that, and I think that it, you know, that whole mindset, it's, you know, it's not, it's very simple, but I do think that, you know, even if you're not where you want to be yet, if you start acting like it and taking, taking on the, the mental side of, you know, what it would take to get to where you want to be and just kind of acting like it, acting it out. You know, for me, it would be like living and training like a top runner before I was one. And that helped me get to being where I wanted to be in my running. So I do think that that's a really good strategy for people who are looking to
Starting point is 00:28:17 improve and get to where they want to be. For me, it's like I'm not an Olympian yet, but I want to think like one and act like one because that's that's what I want to be and Gabe can you tell us a success quote or maybe a phrase that you live by and how it might apply to us yeah another very very simple one but I think has a lot of meaning for me especially with where I'm at, I guess, in my career. And it's just no pressure, no diamonds. And for me, it's important. I like that for me right now, specifically, because I think it really cuts into the heart of things. Like, sometimes we all just want things to be easy. And I fall into that every now and then too, because running is hard, racing is hard,
Starting point is 00:29:04 being the best in the world is really hard. Racing is hard. Being the best in the world is really hard. And sometimes I'm just like, why can't it just be easier? But honestly, I do when I get in those tough situations where everybody on the line is the best in the world. I think, you know, I think to myself, no pressure, no diamonds, like, you want to be the best, like, this is what it takes. And I know that competing against the best and putting myself in those situations is going to bring out the best in me ultimately. And that's what I'm really looking for. So I like the idea of, you know, sort of being excited about those hard situations and being excited about the pressure. And even going into the Olympic year next year, it's like, bring it on. Like, I like it. You know, it's just the idea of embracing challenges and sort of knowing that when you put yourself in those tough situations, challenging situations that, you know, it's going to bring out the best in you. You might be a diamond.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Awesome. And you might be able to, if you do experience that pressure and feel the pressure and do it anyway, fake it till you make it, the diamond will come. Absolutely. Awesome. What advice do you have for those high performers who are listening? So people that are athletes who are going after their goals or entrepreneurs, business leaders, what advice do you have that, you know, that could help them just go after their goals or
Starting point is 00:30:25 take their their performance up a notch you know there's always more that we can do but I do think that for me one of the biggest things is just you know investing in yourself and really you know taking taking an honest look at what you need to do differently in your life to get to where you want to be and for me as a runner one of those things I identified over the last couple years was working with a sports psychologist. So that's something that I'm doing. But it's also could be something as simple as, you know, getting adequate sleep and rest that you need. And sometimes, you know, prioritizing those little things that are going to help you get to where you want to be. And also, I think just developing sort of a good sense of self and trusting your intuition. That has been huge for me as a runner, because there's so many times where,
Starting point is 00:31:12 you know, you could be doing things or getting advice from a million different people. And sometimes you, you have to rely on yourself to sort of block out all the, all the noise and, you know, focus on what's important. And I think that when you can work on that and have a really strong sense of self and finding out what really works for you as an individual, I think that opens the door for a lot of success, for sure. Gabe, you are so inspiring today. I love the interview and I love the gems that you provided, the diamonds you provided. What I love most was the beginning when you talked about finding your best self, your best runner self and how cancer allowed you to do that,
Starting point is 00:31:57 get you more motivated and excited and grateful for the opportunity. And I love the strategy you provided at the end of, you know, faking it till you make it and seeing pressure as the opportunity to make diamonds. So pretty cool. I am so grateful that you have been on this podcast, sharing your story to inspire thousands out there. Gabe, how can people listening follow you? And how would you recommend that we do that? You can find me on Twitter at gg underscore runs. And you can find me on Facebook as well. I have an athlete page, Gabrielle Grunewald. And I also have a website, Gabrielle Grunewald.com. You can follow my my training and racing this upcoming year. I try to post on there my schedule and results and some, you know, interesting news about me every now and then. And if you want to get in touch with me, there's a
Starting point is 00:32:50 contact form on my website too. I love doing speaking opportunities. You know, I like inspiring the next generation of athletes, runners, and, you know, also people who are going through challenges because I know I have been there and I always want to inspire people to, you know, also people who are going through challenges because I know I have been there and I always want to inspire people to, you know, come out of it better on the other side and just inspire hope in the future. So get in touch with me if you'd like to. Awesome. I will post that on the show notes page, Gabe. So thank you so much again for being here today, for sharing your wisdom and advice and insights with high performers out there. And for all of those who are listening, today is your day.
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