High Performance Mindset | Learn from World-Class Leaders, Consultants, Athletes & Coaches about Mindset - 702: Reinventing Yourself with Craig Siegel: From Wall Street to Purpose-Driven Impact

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

Craig Siegel is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author, keynote speaker, and the founder of Cultivate Lasting Symphony. After leaving a thriving career on Wall Street, he dedicated his life to helpi...ng people reinvent themselves from the inside out. His energy, purpose, and belief in human potential have made him a sought-after coach and entrepreneur, guiding others to align with their vision and overcome self-doubt. In this episode, Craig shares the powerful mindset shift that transformed his life and how you can apply the same principles to your own journey. We talk about his leap from finance to purpose-driven work, the role of energy in leadership, and how to protect it as a high performer. He also unpacks practical lessons from his bestselling book The Reinvention Formula—a step-by-step playbook for creating clarity, moving past fear, and building a life that lights you up. In this conversation, you will learn: The mindset shift that sparked Craig’s reinvention How to move through fear and self-doubt with intention and belief Why energy management is critical for leaders and high performers Practical tools from The Reinvention Formula to create clarity and overcome obstacles Craig’s story proves that reinvention isn’t reserved for a few—it’s available to anyone ready to commit to growth, purpose, and possibility. Learn more about craig here: https://www.cultivatelastingsymphony.com/ Apply for the certification here: https://mentallystronginstitute.com/certification 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the High Performance Mindset Podcast, where we help you master your mindset to grow your influence, multiply your confidence, and get to your goals quicker. My name is Dr. Cindera Campoff, and today I'm thrilled to bring you a powerful conversation with Craig Siegel, Wall Street Journal bestselling author, Keynote Speaker, and the founder of Cultivate Lasting Symphony. Craig is a mindset coach and entrepreneur who left a successful career on Wall Street to follow his purpose and now helps people around the world reinvent themselves from the inside out. His energy is contagious, his story is inspiring, and his belief in human potential runs deep.
Starting point is 00:00:44 In this episode, Craig and I talk about the mindset shift that transformed his life and how you can do the same, his leap from Wall Street to purpose-driven work in personal development, how to move through fear and self-doubt with intention and belief, the power of energy in leadership, and why high performers need to protect it. And practical insights from his best-selling book, The Reinvention Formula, a playbook for unlocking clarity,
Starting point is 00:01:14 overcoming obstacles, and creating a life that lights you up. Before we dive in, I have something exciting to share. We've just opened enrollment for our fourth cohort of the Mentally Strong Coach certification, which kicks off on September 8th. If you're passionate about mindset, performance, and helping others thrive, this program is for you. You'll get world-class training rooted in sport and performance psychology, learn proven
Starting point is 00:01:41 tools to coach others with confidence, and join a community of growth-minded leaders committed to making a difference. If you've ever thought about becoming a certified coach, now is the time. You can learn more at Mentally Strong Institute.com slash certification. That's Mentally Strong Institute.com slash certification. All right, let's jump into my interview with the one and only, Craig Siegel. You're going to love this conversation. Welcome to the high performance mindset today.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I'm so excited to have Craig Siegel on the podcast today. Craig, thank you so much for joining us here from New York City. Oh, man, I'm pumped for this interview. You and I connected offline. There's so much alignment. There's no place in the world. I'd rather be than right here with you. Let's have some fun. Let's go deep today. Okay, I can't wait. And you know, there's so many things we have in common, one that we're both runners. So I can't wait to talk to you about that. But today we're going to be exploring topics like mindset and purpose and grit and resilience and energy and your book called The Reinvention Formula. So the first question I want to ask you, Craig, is you spent 13 years on Wall Street. What made you decide to pursue more personal development and just tell us about what drove that decision for you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So when I graduated college, I wasn't one of those cats that knew what they wanted to do with their life per se. I wasn't ambitious and I was always infatuated to stocks and I just graduated to kind of start adulting. And so I went to Wall Street, love stocks, got it going. But ultimately, at the same time that I went to Wall Street, I also discovered. personal or like I like to say human development. And it was just blown away that you can actually mold yourself like clay. You can increase all of awareness. You can build your confidence. You can
Starting point is 00:03:36 become more available. You can create new traits to get you to the next level. And so I utilize personal development, neurologistic programming, NLP, and so forth to enhance my career, to cultivate more meaningful relationships, to run marathons. I just didn't know that it would end up being my thing and why I'm here and I'd make a life and career out of it. But ultimately, near the end of my Wall Street career, I went through something that I think so many people do. And a lot of people maybe are afraid to admit her or unable to articulate it. And this isn't theory. This is just data. And I felt very disconnected and misaligned to what I was doing. And so while Wall Street took the purpose and it was a lot of fun for a very
Starting point is 00:04:19 long time and it became a man, I learned discipline. At some point, I wanted to do something more meaningful with my life. And, you know, the old expression goes, the pain of staying has to be worse than the pain of leaving. And so I refended myself in the pandemic. I'm sure we're going to get into that because ultimately, I no longer felt connected to what I was doing on Wall Street. And I wanted to do something weaker and more meaningful with my life. Well, Craig, there's something that you said I want to ask you more about because people who are listening to the high performance mindset, you know, they are interested in personal development. They know that they can grow their mind. And when they do, right, that impacts how quickly they get to their goals and maybe even the revenue that
Starting point is 00:05:02 they make. Tell us about what do you mean by you can mold yourself like Clay? And how have you been an example of that? I just think of this word consciousness, right? And I don't know how spiritual you like to get on the podcast, but at the risk of being super authentic. So consciousness, I believe the definition of consciousness is who you really are, not who you've been taught you are, who you think you are. Everybody's definition of who they really are is very limited. And by developing and elevating your consciousness, you can gain a better awareness of what's really happening here. And so when I say mold yourself like Clay, I think that we should be reinventing ourselves each and every single day, at least our consciousness and what's possible
Starting point is 00:05:50 and challenging our limitations. And so as long as we're never satisfied with where we are our current limitations, there's always another level. And I just want to be clear because I know there's a thing that it could be toxic to always chasing the next goal. That's not what I mean. And we should absolutely desire to achieve fulfillment. But I think it's important to never be satisfied, meaning that there's always another level of growth. There's always more corrections, more transformations that we can make. And so I think that's a lifelong transformation. And the good news for everybody listening is that if you don't love where you are or you don't approve of what's been going on, you can accept it. You don't have to approve it, but you can accept it. And we can
Starting point is 00:06:36 get to work right away. And that starts by just elevating our consciousness and realizing that most of the things that you're experiencing in your life are not actually the truth, capital T. They've just been true for you, lowercase T, and that we can replace. Yeah, that's awesome. I appreciate everything that you've just said. And how powerful to think about consciousness is like who you really are, not who you are taught you are. And I find, you know, for me, um, right before you got on this call, you commented on my energy. And it was interesting because I used to hide that. And then I was at a Tony Robbins event. This might have been, I don't know, eight years ago. And someone actually said to me, because I think I was like my true self in that event, you know. And someone said to
Starting point is 00:07:28 me like your energy is it attracting or something like your energy is your, actually he said your energy is your superpower. And it was that stranger who told me that. That's how. help me be my true authentic self now, right? Isn't that cool? How it's like a stranger told me that. Not only is cool, but I believe the 100%. Because most of us are dimming our light because we think that we're afraid to be judged or seen. When it's so funny, like you just described, your real magic, your greatest superpower, is actually you.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, just like your superpower is you. So authenticity, right? So how do you think that we get closer to who we really are, not who we're taught we are? So I'm a student and I study the wisdom of Kabbalah. It's not a religion, it's technology, it's spirituality. And one of the reasons why it's so powerful and it was hidden for years and years and years. And there were certain guidelines that you had to be over 40 to study and all this and that. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It's available to anybody now. but the tools Kabbalah help you elevate your consciousness, right? And so what does that even mean? That means to elevate your level of awareness to realize what's really happening. And I think sadly, most people are in the Walking Dead, so to speak. Like they're just walking around. They're being very robotic, very reactive. They're in the matrix or a specific pattern cycle.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And to be able to elevate your consciousness is to kind of unplug or wake up from that and realize that we have certain choices and that we can do different things and we can tap into a system. And just like gravity is as real as it gets, if someone were to jump out my apartment here in New York City and go and jump out towards East River, even if they were an amazing soul, they would still go down. And so there are universal laws that everybody can learn and tap into laws that can create fulfillment, that can create prosperity, that could bring you closer to, I would say greater. someone else might say divine source god jesus divine whatever's good for you but to be able to strengthen that connection to be able to attract more money
Starting point is 00:09:42 these are these are muscles that not only can be flexed but must be flexed and so just understanding that there's look what does it even mean to be spiritual if we just break that down I think it just means that you believe if there's something else going on here beyond our logic
Starting point is 00:09:58 and if you can happen connect into that then anything is possible wonderful can you give us an example of something that we could do to strengthen that connection in your opinion yeah so obviously praying and meditating is a good way to to build a vessel as we would say to build the capacity to strengthen that connection i think that praying is often misunderstood building a connection absolutely other things that you can do is is to act like the creator.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And so depending upon whatever it is that you subscribe to or believe in, I think one thing that we can all agree that it has in common is that whether you call it God, divine, source, universe, whatever is good for you, it's an endless energy, right? And so if we want to channel that endless energy into the world to do great things, then we ourselves have to be endless or be limitless, if you will. So one of the best ways to strengthen that is to act like that, right? Because creator doesn't need recognition, doesn't have an ego per se.
Starting point is 00:11:13 It's not looking for you to pat it on the back or anything like that. So the more that we can act pure without agenda, without the need for recognition, without connecting to the ego, opens us up for more what we would call light or blessings and miracles. This is some pretty stuff, but you asked. I love it. I love it. Well, and how do you practice this in your day today? Yeah, so just the things I just mentioned to you right now.
Starting point is 00:11:44 So you're not going to catch me meditating like in the corner. For me, running is a moving meditation. I do take time every day when I start today, not negotiable to connect and pray and ask some questions. I also practice when I preach. So I like to call it sharpening the axe. I'm constantly studying the wisdom. I'm studying other modalities.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm always learning. I don't know if there's something I enjoy more than learning. I just love to I'm a student. I'm a student of the game. And so I'm always practicing, flexing, listening, reading, studying, and constantly developing myself. And so when I see other people in the world that, like, they're often connected to the ego or the way that they react to certain things is,
Starting point is 00:12:29 is very reactive, it makes me think that they're not developing themselves to the capacity in which is possible. Because when you develop yourself, you have a different level of awareness and you're able to manage yourself and navigate life at a different level. And so just the things I just shared with you, I'm always working on developing myself. Well, and it sounds like leaving Wall Street to do what you do now, writing, leading a group speaking more of like you know, your own personal development career, it sounds like this is your purpose and this is your calling. And I want to ask you a few questions about that because I think people have a hard time finding their purpose. And, you know, sometimes I think that it's scary for people that they think
Starting point is 00:13:18 it should be like this divine download and, you know, it should just come to them like, this is my purpose. How do you feel like you found yours? I think one of the most overlooked tools, and things that you can do to really tap into this is what I like to call creating white space. And so what I mean by that is when we're always grinding and doing, it's hard to connect and receive downloads. So instead of always doing, I would encourage people to be more and allow. And so when I reinvented myself and I talk a lot about this in the book, the pandemic, more specifically the lockdown was kind of a forced pause for me. I'll be totally upfront, but I utilized it to the full capacity. I saw a lot of people watching that Tiger King show, drinking a heck of a lot
Starting point is 00:14:05 of wine. No touching it. I just thought for me, I shut down my office for what I thought would be two weeks. I knew for quite some time that I was here for something more. And then I was a gladiator in the wrong arena. I was just having trouble putting it together. So when the lockdown happened, I looked at this. It's like, if not now, then when. And that's what I really connected. For me, that's greater, and I started getting divine downloads. I started getting ideas. The noise was gone. I wasn't distracted. I was available. And so what's the lesson there? Don't wait like I did for a global pandemic. Hopefully we'll never experience one again in this lifetime. But be proactive. Create that space. I know you talk about this in your book. Create that space to be the channel
Starting point is 00:14:54 where you get those unbelievable ideas that just might put you on the trajectory to help you cultivate your purpose and share your gifts with the world in a meaningful way. Yeah, awesome. And, you know, I think about, for me, Craig, it's interesting. Like, I think I better understood my purpose,
Starting point is 00:15:13 actually from a really difficult moment in my life. I was at the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing. So we were, obviously, we were both runners and I just completed the race. I obviously there was a bomb about 45 minutes after I completed it, but just like being in Boston, being a couple blocks away, actually made me take a step back and just say like, why am I here and what difference do I make, you know, and why do I do what I do? And it was, you know, several months of exploring that question and really figuring it out that helped me choose this career. because before that I was a college professor working, you know, teaching performance psychology, which was really fun and amazing. But I knew there was like something missing that I really
Starting point is 00:16:06 wanted to do. Like, you know, work with different sports teams, write a book, be a speaker. And, you know, so it's interesting. Yeah, what did you say? I said, and you're doing it. And then some, that you started to interrupt. I was just, that's a really cool story. I didn't know that you had. just finished the race a little bit before the bombing. That's, that's pretty wild. Yeah, super wild. And, you know, it had some post-traumatic stress when I got back, to be honest, you know, that I had to work through. But I just, it was like, um, this achievement didn't actually really matter. Like, I read my fastest time at a marathon at that race that year. But it, it was, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:49 maybe that was the ego, you know, the achievement. that actually didn't matter. It was these questions about my purpose and why I'm here and why do I do what I do. It was like those three questions were just on repeat all night. And I think I was there for a reason to help me wake me up to what I'm supposed to really be doing, you know? And so I think what's cool is sometimes getting clarity on your purpose
Starting point is 00:17:17 and maybe our stories are more similar than we even realized. Like, it came from, for you, it came from, like, a pandemic. And, you know, working through that pandemic, for me, it came from, you know, probably one of the most difficult days in my life. Yeah. Not a coincidence, right? So a word that comes to mind is perspective. I think when things are going pretty good, that's often the enemy of great, right?
Starting point is 00:17:42 But when things all of a sudden stop us in our tracks, it creates an opportunity to maybe shift our perspective and ask some more thought-provoking deep, powerful questions. I think all the magic lies in the questions, not the answers. So it makes sense and thank you for sharing that at that moment you started to consider, is this the path for me or is there something greater? And I think a good lesson here is because both you and I share after like a traumatic experience, don't wait for that for the listeners, create the space to consider a different perspective or even just consider a different scenario or choices. I think that Byron Caney's quote, and I bet you've heard this before, of like,
Starting point is 00:18:25 whatever everything happens for us, not to us, is like I think that I can apply that to my race, you know, and maybe you can even think about your Wall Street career, right? Like the pandemic, there was a gift in that in some way. Because I think everything does happen. If we can see it that way as like a gift that we can just get through, not just get through it, but really grow through it. Look, again, perspective. So you can turn anything into a blessing depending upon how you look at it. In your opinion, what's a tool that people could use to look at something difficult in
Starting point is 00:19:06 their life from a different perspective? There's one consciousness that will cripple you and destroy you. I spent a lot of time in this consciousness. That's how I speak so clearly about it. and that's victim consciousness. Yeah. So the idea is that if you're going through something or you've been through something
Starting point is 00:19:24 and you play victim, which we call in level one energy, yeah. And you're not really available from many alternative superior trajectories, right? You're just kind of in that energy. But if you're open to saying, well, how does it get better than this?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Or what is the lesson I learned? Or thank goodness I now know this. Then all of a sudden, you're shifting your energy. And just by doing that, you're now available for different choices or potential outcomes. And so I think it's very important to take whatever is happening at base value and nothing more. We often create judgment, fear, and a lot of judgment within ourselves about what something might mean, what it could do, this or that. And look, I know so many people, especially that we've had on our podcast, and even we had someone that was a part of the
Starting point is 00:20:15 bombing in the Boston Marathon. I'll never forget it. She was on the show and she'll or leg. And when stuff like that happens, there's always a choice. I'm not saying it's not extremely difficult and life-altering. But depending upon how you view the situation, will depend upon what you get out of the rest of your life. And I know this sounds a little corny, but is everything not attitude? Like, if you take two people who do the same thing, how is it that both of those people can have a totally different experience, right? Perspective, consciousness, one's available for it, one's negative and victim. It all depends on how you're willing to see things, which will create a totally different,
Starting point is 00:21:04 hopefully enriching and empowering experience of life. And so I just think perspective and not over-analizing what something really is. Yeah. So many people can do that. You know, one of the questions I ask all of my audiences is I ask them, raise your hand if you're an overthinker. And to be honest, Craig, like 90% of people raise their hand. And this morning, I was speaking to a group of high level athletes and probably 95% raised their hand. You know, I think people tend to kind of get in that space of like ruminating and overthinking difficult moments. And then that black. our energy. It's crazy, right? Even if you think about public speaking, which is something that you do a lot of and so do why,
Starting point is 00:21:50 it's the number one fear in America. And if we just unpacked it for just a second, why? Why would that be the number one fear? Like, why would it be so scary to go up and just speak in front of people? Like, what are we making that mean? Right?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Like, what kind of validation are we looking for? How afraid are we what people are going to think of us? And all that is included in what you just beautifully they're articulated and over-analysis and all that stuff. So if we just stripped that down and just removed it and didn't make it about us and how we might look, just made it about what's the intention here? Who can this nugget help in just a small way? Like on this podcast, you and are having a dynamite conversation. Who's the one person that needs to hear this and what do they need to hear? If we just focus on that, we're going to make for the greatest conversations or in a public
Starting point is 00:22:36 speaker, a great talk and so forth. So I think it's getting centered and really paying attention and elevating your awareness to what really matters and what really doesn't. Yeah, I appreciate that comment because I think when I first started speaking, I was very self-conscious, you know, what you looked like, what did I sound like? And then that blocked me from truly being present and really thinking about what the people needed. Another thing you and I have in common is we both got our coaching certificate through the IPEC through the International or Institute of Professional Excellence in Coaching. And I loved how you just brought in the levels of energy, right?
Starting point is 00:23:18 And I think about that level one energy is really more victim. But we can choose a different level of energy, like wisdom and creation, just by choosing a different thought or like what you just said, choosing a different question. You know, like, how am I there to support people instead of what do they think about me? Yeah, that's the key right there. Even just that thought shifts your energy. Awesome. Hi, this is Cindera Campoff, and thanks for listening to the high performance mindset.
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Starting point is 00:24:31 talked about today and really creating a life of purpose and success. Tell us about what reinvention means to you. and why you think it's possible for anyone? I think there's a misconception about reinvention. We did a whole TED talk on this. I think when people hear that, they often think that it means this huge, giant career pivot. And if I'm being fair, for me, it was that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But it was also more. When I say I think that we should be reinventing ourselves each and every single day, every single day we should be reconsidering what our limitations are. And I think most of our limitations are self-imposed. and so just being able to challenge those and increase our capacity to tap into more of our own potential each and every single day
Starting point is 00:25:15 we should be growing and transforming and if we're not doing that if we're just status quo that we don't have the opportunity to transform and grow and I think one of the worst things that you could say to somebody or someone could say to you is don't ever change
Starting point is 00:25:32 and it's funny because what you're basically saying the person is don't grow don't transfer them, just stay like this. And I know someone might mean it in a loving way, but the ultimate is I don't even recognize the person I was three months ago. That's how rapidly I'm growing and transforming. And it's just a beautiful thing. And so everybody should be open, available and proactively reinventing themselves all the time. It doesn't have to mean a career per se, just your capabilities, your skill sets, what you're capable of in this world. And yes, I did totally reinvent myself career-wise.
Starting point is 00:26:07 obviously. Also just got married to my soulmate last September. Awesome. Congratulations. Thank you. So there was a lot of reinvention going on there. But just if we strip it down to the simplest form, each and every single day when you wake up to the listeners, consider reinventing yourself and challenging what your current ceiling or limitations are every single day. And you will continue to grow and transform and find ways to build your capacity so that you can receive more blessings and miracles in this world. And so I like to redefine the word reinvention and just constant growth and transformation each and every single day. Okay. Excellent. I think about this idea what you just said challenging or sealing each and every day. I think I don't know very many people
Starting point is 00:26:59 who do that. And I think the opposite is what happens most of the time. It's, you know, we, see the ceiling, but we don't try to push through it, but we just settle for what we think instead of, you know, what's possible for us. So you agree with that. And what do you see most people doing to like challenge their ceiling each day? What do you see people really doing when they're really doing that at a high level? Yeah. Great question. I think that every one of us lives our lives by certain rules right and so whether we realize it or not most of these rules were just given to us and we accept them without question and so it's a good time to just think about what rules govern the way that you play the game of life right and so i would even give the list
Starting point is 00:27:52 as an exercise what rules govern the way that you play the game of life right and then we can make list rules or beliefs that don't serve us such as uncomfortable conversations are scary or I have to accept certain circumstances right so that's one list and then rules or beliefs that do serve us I am more than enough right I'm a magnet for prosperity we need the list goes on and so the idea is is to get to coming back to that word to elevate our conscious and level awareness to such an extent that we realize what have the rules been that we've been playing by and are we willing to change them right and so for example let's say you're just starting out you're an entrepreneur and your business got to a certain
Starting point is 00:28:47 point and so you think that it can only get this far maybe you don't have the experience you know the resources you're of the employees is that really the truth of the capital tea or is that just been true for you so obviously the latter right and so how can you reframe that Well, I'm resourceful enough to figure out how I can get this to the next level. I'm resourceful enough to utilize AI to hire someone to delegate because hiring done right doesn't cost, it pays. There's always another level. And so why do we often find ourselves stuck?
Starting point is 00:29:22 And even think about me on Wall Street, like, I had known for about a year that I was, I gave it everything I got, but I knew that this wasn't it. And so why did I stay there for that year? I didn't see other choices. I didn't see other possibilities because I was so stuck in these certain rules until the pandemic provided me that level of white space to elevate my conscience and realize, hold on a second. I may not have a social media following any celebrity friends or any experience in putting
Starting point is 00:29:54 myself on camera, but I do love personal development and I am pretty good at it. Can I find a way to bring that to the world? absolutely I could. And so again, it's backed that level of awareness and I think for everybody out there, even just something tangible, make a list. What are the rules that have been governing your life, which ones serve you, which ones don't? And the ones that don't, are you willing to replace them? Awesome. Give us an example of a rule that you had governing your life in Wall Street. And now what are some of those beliefs that you think are core to your own? success? A rule that I thought was truth with the capital T, which I know is not, was that I was
Starting point is 00:30:40 a Wall Street guy. That was my identity. I'd have certain type of relationships. I'd make a certain amount of money. And this particular energy of Wall Street would just be my, that's just my norm for the rest of my life. That was not the truth at all. And so now I realize, I realize, that as long as I'm able to awaken a desire in anything that I want to approve or transform and I have the willingness, which I do, there's no limitations, right? And even if you think about like playing with this wisdom that we spoke about earlier and elevating your level of awareness and tapping into universal laws, as long as we're willing to do the uncomfortable work, which is very uncomfortable, that's the self-transformation. Because I believe everything
Starting point is 00:31:28 that's happening outside is a direct result of something at the seed level, right? And so if we're willing to do the work, the internal work, it's an inside job, then we create a totally different outer experience. There's a sexier quote from the book, I want to say, Secret to the Millionaire Mine. It says, the roots create the fruits. And yet, yeah, is that if you want to change anything going on in your movie and your life externally, it starts with shifting your consciousness internally. And And from that, anything is possible. Nice. The roots create the fruits.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And I think what that means is like your internal beliefs are the core. And like that's what creates your outcome or that's what creates like what you do. Is that how you interpret that? Your outcome. And that could be great or limiting depending on what you need to be true for you. Right? So you need that you just be a professor and that you couldn't make it as an entrepreneur and coach and teach teams and write books and do podcasts. If you didn't believe it was possible, then you would have just kept doing what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But you did believe that was possible. And the more that you expand even on that, the more that you're going to continue to grow and reach more people and make more money and everything in between. And so I think people's beliefs govern what's possible for them or what's not possible for them. Yeah. I agree. And I think particularly beliefs about themselves and what's possible. And so many times we listen to this inner chatter, the chatter that tells us we're not enough or we can't do it. And that's what creates the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:33:05 What advice would you give to somebody who's listening that says, okay, I will think about my beliefs and my rules, but I really want to bring through the ceiling. Like, what's the way to do that? I think it really comes down to being brutally honest with yourself. And so if you don't like where you are, if there is a. ceiling, is it possible that you're the reason why you're in this particular situation? Can you assume responsibility and accountability in ownership? Because if you can, now we could do something about it. Right. Now we can challenge that ceiling. We can consider what else is possible. And even just asking these thought-provoking questions, you know, like I said earlier, I think all the
Starting point is 00:33:51 magic is in the questions. And every time you ask a question, You open a doorway or you open a vessel, and it has to be fulfilled at some point. So I would just encourage everybody to ask a lot of questions, right? Is this it from me? Is there another way? Is there a chance for me to make more of an impact? Can I make more money doing what I love? Even just answering, asking these questions, you might not get an answer right there on the spot.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But at some point, because you asked it, because you were brave and bold enough to ask it, the answers will be revealed. And so I think people that think I know are very limited from what they can actually receive. That's why one of the coolest parts about life is you get a little bit older is that the more you realize you don't know, because there's so much available. And just having that mentality and that consciousness allows you continuously receive. And so I think just again, if anyone says, I know, tapped into the ego consciousness, you're limiting yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I wrote two questions down that you just said that I think are powerful for me. And it's like, is there another way? Can I make even more of an impact? Because I think we can all get stuck on something that's maybe hard in our business or hard in our career. And we just kind of tolerate it
Starting point is 00:35:12 instead of like asking ourselves, I appreciate the questions you're asking because it's like helps you think about it in a different way than maybe you have before. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I think also something to add is just it's a good time for everybody to just take a moment and redefine their definition of success. Be able to learn to change your definition of success. What does success mean to you? And I think you probably agree that at different seasons of life, you probably have different definitions of success. It's fluid. It's something that you can constantly read define. And I know that a lot of people get tripped up because they begin to think a little bit bigger and then they start thinking, how? And then they get overwhelmed and they just stop, right? And so
Starting point is 00:36:06 it's great to think big, but also be unattached and then redefine what success is. So just to give an example, let's say you would be the top performance coach on the planet and speak to all the biggest teams in the world for you. I'm just making it up. But it's definitely possible. possible. So, okay, great. So that's the goal. I'm unattached. Now, how do I define success? Success is continuously reaching out at putting yourself in environments where those organizations get defined out about your unbelievable work. So notice how success is not tied to the outcome. It's tied to the process. So I think it's really good for people to redefine success. I like the way that you just said that because I think the hard part is the
Starting point is 00:36:52 unattached part, you know, that people, there's lots, I mean, the thing about athletes that I work with that have a goal of becoming starting quarterback, but they actually can't even control that goal because they don't choose a starting quarterback, you know? But it's hard to detach yourself from that goal. Very hard. What advice would you give to somebody who feels like their goals are connected to the outcome. Yeah. Can I give you a quote? I would love to hear one. This is one that's been really meaningful for me and that is this. Don't chase blessings, see blessings and they will chase you. Everybody is so attached to a specific outcome, even money, right? How badly do we want a deal that we're realistically afraid to not have it,
Starting point is 00:37:43 that we end up pushing it away? We're so attached to a promotion to a title. And because that energy exists, we are actually repelling the thing that we want. And so there's a dance. And one of the biggest games of all time is to be able to desire something and be unattached, to have certainty and let's go. And it's not easy. But when you're able to master that, I truly believe you can manifest anything. Cool. Awesome. I think I know that that helped a lot of people. You're just describing that, you know, like for example, having the desire but be unattached. Craig, what's your definition of success? And how do you stay unattached from that? And then what's your process to get there? So in this particular season, I have a lot of big audacious goals, right?
Starting point is 00:38:41 With the business, it's grown tremendously. We're reaching a lot of people and a lot of people that we're working with. It's making a big difference for them. And as a result, these people are now changing the world in their own right and so i don't i'm not attached to like i don't want to be next tori robins or anything like that i just want to keep sharing this wisdom keep learning and sharing right so receiving for the sake of sharing and as i focus on that i'm noticing i'm experiencing more and more doors opening opportunities blessings and it's been a major shift for me that's just career-wise right So there's different types, there's different buckets.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You know, there's fitness, there's relationships, there's family, there's spirituality. There's all sorts of different things. I think if we're putting it all generally, I think it's important that in some way, shape, or form, you're identifying what it is that the gifts are that we're given to you and figuring out a way to actualize and share those with the world in some capacity. If we're not doing that, it's hard to look at that person as successful. Sure, absolutely. It's all what I've been through and what I used to think.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And I say that very delicately because there's a lot of people that are doing a lot of great things, but they just might not be connected to it. So I would just encourage everybody to really never stop trying to find what your thing is and find a way to share it in the world. And on the backside and buy a product of that, I believe there's a tremendous amount of blessings. And, Greg, I also think that most people really don't take the time to define what success means to them.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Most people don't have their goals written down. Most people really haven't really thought about it. And they're just, you know, kind of moving on autopilot or they had a goal, you know, five years ago and they didn't really take space in time to think about that goal. We talked a little bit about your book, The Reinvention Formula. out what's what's is there a topic in the book that we really haven't talked about or a concept you want to share more about that haven't asked you about so the book is it is a lot in there and I like to say but sometimes people ask me like who's the book for so I say this if you're looking to elevate yourself gain confidence build great relationships find love it's more self-worth
Starting point is 00:41:11 build a brand, learn fitness, overcome adversity, build resilience, then the book's for you. That basically connects to everybody in some capacity. So it's funny because we wrote the book just about three years now and it's been a big hit. People that read it like to enter our world. And yet I've changed so much since I wrote it. But I wouldn't have changed the thing because that book was everything
Starting point is 00:41:35 that I had in me at the time. And so I think if you just want to, pick up a vessel and grow and be empowered and also have the practical tools the no BS no fluff way and it's for you and what's cool about my book is yes it's a story so if you read chapter one to the last chapter it goes in order but they really bite-sized short chapters you can actually pick it up anywhere similar to yours and just say oh I'm in the mood to read this chapter today and so forth so people tend to love it I think if you're into the stuff that we're talking about today, you're going to find something no matter what page you turn to that's going to elevate
Starting point is 00:42:15 your spirits and get you pumped about life. Awesome. So tell us where we can find your book and where we can find more information about your programs and what you do. Yeah. So anywhere you buy books, the reinvention formula, anywhere you listen to podcasts, the CLS experience, go to our website, cultivate lasting symphony.com with big community, masterminds, live events, all the good stuff. on social media at Craig Siegel underscore CLS. And if you like inspirational nuggets throughout the week, you can text us totally free. We give out wisdom and updates.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Just text 917-634-37-96. And just text the word grit so that I know that you heard it. All right. Nice, grit. Okay, I love it for my book Beyond Grit. Okay, I wrote it down 9-1-7-34-37-96. That's right. Okay. Amazing. All right. I got a few fun questions for us to end with. Okay. My first
Starting point is 00:43:16 question for you, Craig, is what's one book outside of your own that's changed your life? I would say there's many, but one that comes to mind is the secret. Ooh. Why was that so powerful for you? I could imagine, but just curious. I've read it a couple times, and I was interested in most of the authors. from the from the secret have become friends that have been on our shows and stuff but when i read it most recently a few years back i was yearning for more spirituality and that book at that time really ignited the fire for me to go to a whole different level with the spiritual stuff which i believe is the good stuff and so it's just it's great stuff law of attraction and um you know how to focus and manifest
Starting point is 00:44:09 figuring out where the limitations are. It's just very powerful stuff. And I think if anybody's into this stuff, it's a great place to start. Nice. I got that book somewhere on the top here. I better bring it down and read it again this week. Can't go wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Nice. Can't go wrong. Yeah. Second question. What's the best piece of advice you've ever received and why? For some reason, I don't know why I struggle with this question. you could rephrase it to like what's a quote from somebody that you know like really stood out to you and why but i'm it's actually curious as to why this is a struggle for me i'm not sure um i think something
Starting point is 00:45:01 that comes to mind from my cabala teacher as of late it's just this idea about always reconsidering if you're doing or saying something from the soul or from the ego because it's a very slippery slope and if you're connected to the ego when you're doing something or speaking it's a different consciousness and you will have a totally different experience and so most of us if we don't have that level of awareness we're often operating from ego consciousness and that's a whole different life. And so just being super conscious of how I'm operating, how I'm thinking, and how I'm behaving has been a game changer for me. Probably not what you're expecting. And for some people, it might be complex. But it's just good awareness to realize whatever you're doing something,
Starting point is 00:45:51 is this a pure intention or is there some sort of agenda here? Thank you. All right. Last question. If you could have dinner with anyone, let's say a performer, a business person, an athlete, someone you admire, who would it be past or present and why? Arnold Schwarzenegger. And I know he's a pretty controversial figure, but putting all that stuff aside, when I was growing up, I was just so inspired by that guy. To me, he just embodies the American dream.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He was so disciplined. He was so determined. He thought so big. He had it all mapped out. He was going to become number one bodybuilder, utilize that to come to America, become the number one actor in Hollywood, and then do politics and real estate. And I was always captivated by his charisma, his determination, how big he thought. And when I was growing up, I liked his movies, too.
Starting point is 00:46:55 So he's someone that comes to mind. And I think about this consciousness idea that we are talking about, like who you really are, not who you're taught to be. I think Arnold Schwarzenegger is like who he really is, you know. Totally. Embracing all who he is. Absolutely. Craig, we had such an awesome conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I'm grateful that you're here and that you've been on the podcast and then you could share your wisdom with others. Here's a couple of things I wrote down that I think were most meaningful today. Amazing. I think you said you can mold yourself like play. you said consciousness is who you really are not who you're taught you are can you continue to elevate your awareness and strengthen the connection of who you really are we talked about that isn't everything just attitude so good you had us
Starting point is 00:47:56 consider what our limitations are and reinvention to you means challenging your ceiling each day. You ask us to think about the rules that go in our life and if they are serving us or not. And the few I wrote down, I want to keep remembering are I am resourceful enough to do it. And is there another way? Can I make, how can I make the most impact? So like the questions that we choose. and then you ask us to define success and then be unattached from that and then really think about
Starting point is 00:48:36 our process. Look at what we just did in 45 minutes. I'm so impressed that you gathered all of that was able to write it down and be so present and engaged in the conversation. That's amazing. Thank you, Craig. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for your wisdom and I appreciate all you've done. This was great. Thank you so much for having me. Way to go for finishing another episode of the high performance mindset. I'm giving you a virtual fist pump. Holy cow, did that go by way too fast for anyone else? If you want more, remember to subscribe.
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