History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - 124 - Seaton Smith is WILD!

Episode Date: February 27, 2020

We end Black History month with Seaton Smith (Mulaney, Private Lives) joining the Cuzzos to talk black ivy league schools, race relations and a bonus story from Yannis old fighting days!Want more Hyena content? Check out www.patreon.com/bayridgeboys where things get really WILD!Follow us!: 🙆🏼‍♂️🐕🙆🏻‍♂️🙆🏼‍♂️Chris Distefano on Instagram, Twitter, website🙆🏻‍♂️Yannis Pappas on Instagram, Twitter, website🐕History Hyenas on Instagram, Twitter, website Subscribe to the poddy woddy on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify, and HH Clips

what's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the History Ahinas. Chrissy Cauliflower, Yana Yahya Hair, Mikey Mush. And we got our guest, our guest today, the one and only Seton Smith. Kids, put together kid, a handsome kid, a funny kid, a taekwondo kid. He's a martial artist kid.

He's somebody who will hurt, make no mistake, he'll hurt you. He'll hurt you. He'll hurt you. He'll hurt you. He doesn't have a violent personality, but if it came to it, he could hurt you. You'll get a swift kick in hurt you. He'll hurt you. He doesn't have a violent personality, but if it came to it, he could hurt you. You'll get a swift kick in the head. He's a kid that you wouldn't know that could hurt you, but he can really hurt you and he'll roll around.

The thing is with me, though, if you roll around with me, I'll come. That's the thing. Mm. Okay. That's how I defense. If you started rolling around me doing jiu-jitsu, yeah. Some octopuses as a defense, they squirt like an ink at you. That's what Chris, that's his defense.

And Giannis' defense, Giannis is a biter. I'll bite, I'll bite. Giannis is a grown man that bites. So if you fight Giannis, you can do it, but be prepared to get bit. I don't fight fair. Make sure you have your up-to-date vaccinations if you want to fight Giannis.

I know this is all being funny, but I've actually seen Giannis smack a few people. Please tell us about that. That was during a dark time of my life. It was a great time. That's when he looked like a fat woman. He used to look like

a fat lesbian woman. And now he's cute again. Yeah, it was one of the greatest nights of my life. It was at Bar Four and we were having a wonderful show. It was Bar Four.

Bar Four, which is Giannis' old room in Park Slope. Yeah, he was one of the first people to put me on in New York, by the way. I used to come up and visit him in D.C.

And he was like, yeah, come on, why not? He was a wonderful guy. We've been friends since 08? 08, 08, yeah. I went to D.C., we shot a sketch. Yeah, God. Yeah. You were such a, I mean, not were, but you taught me about acting that day.

I was like, wow, this guy's great. But anyways, the day he beat up these people, it was, he was on stage and he's talking and he's trying to actually be overly, you were actually trying to be patient that day. I want to make that clear. were worse yes i've been worse he was being very nice there was these three people in the back who decided they wanted to not actually watch the show even though there were signs up people were all they just decided to be an asshole and he honestly said maybe three or four times hey excuse me guys guys hey we're trying to do a show trying to do a

show and then they didn't ignore it and i think probably like the fourth comic he was just like he just said something was like man fuck you and get the fuck out something very very good and they left but then decided the woman of the group decided that she that was choking on trail mix Yanni Yanni makes every podcast

Cardinal Sid phone on eating choking Jesus no but listen. If he's going to die, nobody give him the Heimlich goat. Start streaming it live. Put it on the Patreon. It's content.

His wife would understand. Oh, I love this. I know. I hear you. You don't want to talk about this assault charge. That's why you started coughing. It's smooth.

It's very smooth. This was one of many nights that went on. So what happened? So there were two guys, one woman. The woman decides she wants to be an asshole so she walks onto the stage she came at me and i was telling her don't do it as she was walking i was going don't do it because i saw in her face i knew

it right so she got into his face and was like you're an asshole and i want to say she touched him in some way and yana's oh yeah she hit me she hit you yeah she hit you in the chest it was hilarious no not just in the face oh she's a face she hit a guy with glasses she hit me. She punched me. She hit you in the chest. It was hilarious. No, not in the chest, in the face. Oh, she hit you in the face? She hit a guy with glasses? She hit me right in the face. She did. Well, in her defense, she thought you were a woman at that point. Probably.

That's the thing I didn't consider until now. Probably. And so Giannis, as a gentleman, nicely and gently, he didn't hit her with a fist. He didn't kick her. He didn't do it. He just took the microphone. I was holding it. He was holding it, and he just kind of put it into her face. Yeah, it just kind of went in there.

Right where in her ear. Yeah, I thought she had something to say, but I did it a little too hard. Yeah. And the sound of that microphone mushing her face. We were all like, uh-oh. And so the dudes were like, hey, you don't hit a woman. And then it was fun because everybody in the room decided to fight those two dudes. Really?

Was it a brawl? Turned into like a brawl? He came forward after that so after that she like she went flying that way yeah because i just kind of like mushed her but i had the mic in my hand so it was like you could hear the pop and uh so she went flying that way but she caught me with a nice one it hurt no no it was a hard like it was a jontay water like and she did i told you she did like a little sugar rate. She did a little sugar. She went, I'm not English. Cause I was like making fun of her accent.

I'm not English. I'm Irish. And I'm about to show you how Irish I am. And she did like a, she did like a little sugar rate two step. And I looked down and that's why she did it for me to look down. And then when I was looking up, it was just coming. Gypsy King, yo ass. She got me.

And then, uh, so he walked forward. He's like, Hey, you fucking hit her. And he was coming And as he was coming I just took my glasses Put them on the piano It was amazing Yeah and he just walked up

As soon as he got on the stage I just punched him Right in the face And then I fell on him And I bit him in the clench You bit him I did bite him Yeah and then the entire crowd

Fucking jumped on them To stop them And kick them out And then once they kicked out I think Giannis might have said Alright Next comic Seaton Smith And Yeah We continued the show stopped them and kicked them out. And then once they kicked out, I think Giannis might have said, all right, next comic, Seton Smith.

Yeah, we continued the show. We continued the show. It was a great show. It was an amazing show. It was amazing. I mean, when the crowd fights for you, they're going to laugh. Bar Four was a, like, kind of a jail rules kind of show. It was like anything could happen.

There was one night where this um this my favorite was when this drunk mexican strolled in i made fun of him all the way he was one of those guys who obviously like worked all day and just got hammered right then just strolled in looking for like a beer or a bathroom and he just stumbles in he goes to the bathroom i made fun of him all the way to the bathroom and then on the way back i was making fun of him more everyone was laughing he stopped and he was like i to come back. I'm going to kill everybody. I'm going to kill everybody. And he left and everyone got really nervous. The bartender

locked the bottom of the door and it happened real quick. Everyone was scared. I was like, guys, I was laughing with the mic. I was going, dude, nothing is going to happen. That guy is hammered. He's going to go fall into some trash bags and fall asleep. Like, relax. But it was like

another night. I mean, so many things happened. Wait, one more. Second favorite story at Bar 4 for me was when you and your ex got into a fight, right? Via the stage? Yeah, via the stage. She got punched in the face too? No. Oh. No, they just kept saying... Johnny hits women. He liked to hit women once in a while.

He doesn't have to hit women. Clip it. No, they were just saying shitty things to each other. They kept taking the stage and saying passive-aggressive shitty things to each other. And I want to say it started off when Gianna said, like, this is the problem when you bring, you know, acts who aren't as good of you on the road with you. Like, kind of something like that. I said something probably dickish, yeah. Dickish.

Just like, yeah, this weak-ass comic in front of me. I'm helping her out, and she's acting like an ass. One of those kind of road with you. Like kind of something like that. I said something probably dickish, yeah. Dickish, just like, yeah, this weak-ass comic in front of me. I'm helping her out, and she's acting like an ass. One of those kind of like, oh. And then she got on stage. She's like, Nick, you're just jealous because Seton had a better joke than you, and you're just fucking bombing on stage. You're trying to take it out on me. And then he got back on stage and said something else equally as shitty.

And it got so bad to the point where she left, and Giannis kind of stayed at the bar like, yeah, I don't think I can go home after that. Yeah, it was a show where i would get too drunk i was going through a dark time because my mom's alzheimer's was flaring up uh flaring up and i was living there yeah your mom's alzheimer's was flaring up and so was your girlfriend's career so her career was her career was she was hot hot ticket at that point she had stuck in the mud again yeah at that point it was before she had flared up. So it was like I was trying to.

That was during the period I was trying to hold her down. Yeah. In there. But yeah, it was dark. It was a lot of transition. And I would get too drunk. But it was wild. And sometimes I would do 40 minutes.

Sometimes I would do 10. Sometimes I would do five. It was just a free room. And that was the personality of the room. It was a little too crazy. Could have been run a little better. But it was a pure room. The bar is closed,

so it's really like, you know what? You did perfect. Yeah, and I still think the Chris Laker Awards. Did you come to the Chris Laker Awards? No. I still think that was the most punk rock moment. But tell Chris Laker. Explain it.

Who's Chris Laker? We were making fun of, at the time, there was the ECNY Awards. Remember those? Yes, God. So one time, me and Nate had a podcast back then called It Could Be Better. The fans heard that episode. Yeah, It Could Be Better.

It Could Be Better is our camera guy. He's now on the road with Nate. Yeah. So he's the artist formerly known as Nate. Now he's the artist known as Jesus because that's what his fucking ego is. That's what his ego says. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding around.

He's got six-year-old kids in the crowd. Yeah. So we were like, we just started making fun of the ECNY. I was like, this is bullshit. And I was like, and then Chris Laker, who was on our podcast too, he was like, yeah, he made it. He goes, yeah, I'm going to do the Chris Laker Awards. And we laughed, and I went like, I was like, let's do that.

They were like, what? And I was like, no, we're going to fucking do that. So we went and made went like i was like let's do that yeah like what and i was like no we're gonna fucking do that so we went and made a banner like a real banner we put it up bar four we made up all these fake awards the awards were hilarious it was like and what happened was ted alexandro who's you know like a great moral person and a great comic he won best stand-up comedian or best comedian for the ecny awards and he didn't show up or he didn't accept it. Why didn't he accept it? Because he just said award shows are stupid. Right.

So we did a Ted Alexandra Award, and we told him. He came and he wore a suit because he knew ours was a joke, which is like, if you're going to do comedy awards, that's what it should be. This isn't a zero-sum game here. That's for actors who want to sniff their own ass. Yes yes let's just make it a big fucking goof and have fun so we had awards like i remember best female comedian and what we did which this was my favorite we had a lot of jokes a lot of funny ones but my favorite was best female committee is what we did was we put a bunch of female comedians names in a fishbowl and And we just picked whatever out. We were like, Leah Bonnema. She won?

She won. Best black comedian was John Moses. He won. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. We had so many funny ones. And Chris Laker, me and Nate kept going up and just reintroducing Chris Laker

as if it was going to be somebody else. But it was just Chris Laker again and again and again. And what would he do? He would do the joke we had written about whatever award. They were all joke awards. Every award was dumb. It was like an award show roast kind of thing.

Yeah, most likely to die. I think it was at the time Soder and Joe List were drinking. Joe List had just gotten herpes. Joe List won most likely to die. And he got up and his speech, he told the whole room. It was packed with comics. He told the whole room he had got herpes. And he told the whole room it was packed with comics he told the whole room he got herpes and he told the stage like hey it's been a great

year for me he's like you know I definitely have a drinking problem I shit my pants that's the one in that Seattle competition and I got herpes and then he was like thank you everybody and people were like what it was fucking rock it was so punk rock man and we were like and then we were afterwards we were like well we're gonna do it every year because it was such a hit everyone was partying we were drinking

and then we had a dj afterwards and it just turned into a big party and i was like no i was like let's never ever do it again it's just one smart and then they never did the ecn war after the after that the ecny wars just like mysteriously died they never did it again because i think we lampooned it so hard we brought out kind of the truth of like hey this is all bullshit we're comedians we don't fucking stand there with statues and go like i want to thank my publicist and you know we don't make lists anymore do we is our list they still have lists but it's almost like if you have it's almost like now if you're a comedian that makes one of those lists it's like you most likely have roommates you're

not doing well at all in your career because i feel like they pick people to put on those lists it's like you most likely have roommates you're not doing well at all in your career because i feel like they pick people to put on those lists where i'm like i've never heard of any of these people and i know they don't really work so but they made a list so it's like i guess that's good but it's like now i i wouldn't want to be on your list yeah it's a weird thing it's like almost like you're you're corny now if you're on a list i don't know is the alt scene over is it still going because like remember it was like remember it was like everyone wanted to get on certain shows. It was like, oh my God, I'm big terrific. What's the big alt show now? Is there an alt?

I don't know. Oh, the Butterboy show maybe? I think probably Butterboy's the biggest. I mean, I think... Have you ever done it? Yeah, I love Butterboy. I've never done it. I'm just like not in that circle anymore.

Not in that circle anymore at all. Comedians You Should Know has a really good one. That's Chicago though, right? Chicago. That one I did. That was nice. The one behind the Golan Alley? Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good one. That's Chicago, though, right? Chicago. That one I did. That was nice. The one behind the Golan Alley? Yeah. Yeah, that's a really

good one. Do they have it in New York? Yeah. I'm saying, the one in the gutter in Williamsburg. Oh, okay. We have it every Wednesday. That's a really good one. Good show. Chicago's got a good scene. Chicago's an amazing scene. They have such a great generation of people. I mean, with Hannibal and TJ and

Kumail. Yeah. And Kumail Nanjiani. Let me tell you a random story with this dude. I remember 2007 or 2008 or nine, it was a DC comedy festival and we were all doing the whole Eddie Brill, maybe the Eddie Brill auditions and shit. Sure. Oh God, for Letterman and stuff.

And it was like 14 comics on this one show, DC Improv. And everybody was bombing because we had to do our late night set, not address the crowd you know that kind of horrible kind of show and i think kamal was the only one person who was just like fuck it i'm just gonna address the crowd and instead of doing his four minutes he ended up doing like nine or ten minutes just going just going blowing the light and i remember he got like

lectured by eddie brill you don't do that you hurt everybody you know you're being selfish and i think like two months later he's on letterman yeah i, I believe it. That's how it works. Oh yeah, yeah, that's how that shit always works. It always works that way. Dude, he's a movie star now. And he's jacked. Jacked movie star. Kamal Nanjiani. No, he's talking about Kumail Bell. Are you talking about Kamal Nanjiani? No, I'm talking about Kamal Nanjiani. Oh, Nanjiani. Wow, you got your Kamals confused.

It is a coincidence that there's two comedians named Kumail. No, his is Kunal. Oh, that's Kunal Arora. Oh, no, yeah, you're mixing up completely different Indians. Yeah. Kunal is a. Kunal Nanjami. Right.

He's like. He's great. He's Jack now. He's an adventure. I know who he is. He's great. He's in a fucking Avengers movie. That's Kumail.

That's Kumail. That's Kumail. And then Kunal is actually the comic. Right. And then there's W. Kumal Bell. Kumal Bell. Kumal Bell.

Oh, their names are different. Kumal and Kunal. Yeah. They're close though. Yeah. That's like Yanis and. They're close. And the fact that we said that now is. Yeah. Bell. Kumal Bell. Their names are different. Kumal and Kunal. Yeah. They're close, though. Yeah. That's like Yanis and Yanis. They're close. And the fact that we've said that now is, yeah, we're racist against Indians.

What can you do? The Indians were trying to understand. We were talking about this last episode. The Indian, other races have, black people are so cool that, Yanis made the good point, now their plight has been stolen. Like, Indians are just like, no, we're victims, too. It's like, what are you talking, you got to this country 20 years ago, you guys got here in the seventies.

You can't steal that from black people. One generation. You guys are crushing it. South Asians are more successful on average than white people in America. And like, they're going like, we're so oppressed. It's like, that's kind of like spitting in the face of black people to me. It's like, I mean, I think I only see two groups that are, have been institutionally oppressed in this country, and that's blacks and Greeks.

No, Native Americans. No, blacks and obviously Native Americans. Native Americans, that was a little, you know, they got wiped out by disease and war, but blacks have been constantly institutionally oppressed over and over, and now it's like everyone's kind of acting

that way. I think it's because black people are so cool and everyone steals other aspects of black culture. Now they're stealing your fucking story too. Yeah. No, no. Absolutely. First you take our gun. Now they're taking your struggle. Sean King is just saying he's black.

Sean King said he was black? Sean King. You know the guy Sean King who's like he's fully white, but he's like I'm black and he took a black, but he actively says he's black. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? I fully believe, and this has nothing to do with the guy who outed him because he was some, what is it, Milo Kapopovich? Yeah, I don't care about the alt-right garbage bullshit.

The truth is, I think he's white. Mm-hmm. Like a Rachel Dolezal. Yeah, his brother's white. Rachel Dolezal, though, I actually am on her side. Let's talk about it. Do you ever see her documentary? I love the documentary. I got no problem with it.

At the end of the documentary, I said, fine, you're black. She is committed to it. She is not giving it up. The whole story, the whole reason she became black is because her whole family was raping and beating the fuck out of everybody. So she's like, I only trust black people. I'd rather be around blacks. Some weird religious family, right? Yeah.

I get it. You can't judge the woman. The only problem I have with the Rachel Dalzals and Sean Kings of the world, because whatever they want to do to help the community, that's great, is when they take something. Or when they lie about it. Or when they lie about it.

Well, even a lie is fine. That's not hurting anybody. What is hurting someone is like, Sean King got a scholarship to... He got an Oprah scholarship. An Oprah scholarship to like... To a black college. To a black college.

So you took that from an actual black person. That's a problem. And then Rachel Dolezal, same thing. She was taking opportunity away from positions that were designed to be for blacks. But other stuff is fine. You want to help people, that's great. Say whatever the fuck you want.

I mean, we talked about it like ad infinitum on the last episode, but the Sean King thing, ad infinitum, you're gay. Yeah. And my shirt says, yep, I'm gay.

Yeah. I don't wait. I don't know about the Sean King. Is this the same Sean King? Is this the guy you're talking about? Yes. Yeah. But look at his baby.

Look at his baby picture, his family picture. Oh, absolutely. So what happened was he, he was just, he, you know,

he, everyone who he grew up with says they thought he was black or whatever, whatever. He always said he was black or whatever. His family's white. And then somebody found his birth certificate and his father. That's his father.

That's the father on the birth certificate. That's his brother. So that's his brother. That's his mother. Oh, shit. They're all white. He does. He does have that black like that blackish type of haircut.

Well, no. Show him as a kid because he looked like me as a kid. That's just one picture with a baby right there. Go to the baby. Yeah. That's him as a kid down there. Like you. There's a little break. With the baby picture right there in the corner? Go to the baby. Yeah, that's him as a kid down there. It doesn't look like you. There's a little break, baby. Mike takes a while with these.

Oh, you can't see. Oh, that's the problem. You can't even see it. Oh, it's a bad show. Just go baby picture. Go Sean King baby picture. I love that we're just talking about this again. I mean, we did the same thing.

I don't know why. I mean, are we to know. I don't know why. We're taking scoops again. After it was found out that the birth certificate said his father was this guy, the guy on the left. Right, what happened? He said, well, what happened was my mother had an affair with a very, very light-skinned black guy, some anonymous very light-skinned black guy,

and that's what it was, and it was very painful. But it's like, why are you referring to him as a very, light-skinned black guy one two is like you don't know his name can't you ask his mom your mom his name oh wow you don't know his name what do you hate that's a funny phrase listen my father was very very he's a very very light-skinned black guy oh wow so wait let's watch that video let's go back to that video now yeah let's do some pauses i would have huh that's a picture with him in cornell west he got real it was an ad world oh hell yeah so that's him on the right that's a big picture right like i don't know if y'all know about black culture but like if there is a light-skinned black person around you don't question whether they're black or not because

light-skinned black people are the most sensitive people right they really like they're trying to overcompensate and prove themselves so like that they're black yeah like you know, you know, all the most militant black civil rights leaders were all light skin. All the people are good. Marshall was Colin Powell. But Thurgood Marshall, those are not good example. I'm sorry. I'm thinking about I'm thinking about Malcolm X and Huey P. Newton. Those are light skinned, crazy motherfuckers. But they were like they weren't as light skinned as like Thurgood Marshall and Colin Powell. Like light skin. That's a different kind of light skin.

Those were light skins for money. Light skin. Those are two different light skins. That's a different kind of light-skinned. Those were light-skinned for money. Light-skinned. Those are two different light-skinned. There's a militant light-skinned. We're naming themselves light-skinned for money. Light-skinned for money. There's a Jack and Jill light-skinned. Those are people that had kind of a good track record since slavery. So they got into the good schools and they were in the good.

They got the money. But yeah, so Thurgood Marshall is not that example. Right, right. He had a good life the entire time. Right, right. Because if you're life the entire time. Right, right. Because if you're that light-skinned, you kind of can slip by. You pass the paperback test. Because, I mean, Howard University and most schools had that test,

the paperback test, for a while. Wait, what's the paperback test? You have to be darker than a paperback? No, if you were darker than a paperback, you could not get into the school. Really? Oh, you don't know about that? No. I was an old Howard thing from, like, the 20ss and 30s where like, yeah, we don't like...

That's why mostly all the Tuskegee Airmen, if you watch the picture, they're all light-skinned. They didn't let dark niggas fly. Wait, so that was at Howard, though? Really? Wait, the paperback test was at Howard? This was at Howard, but most of the HBCUs were like this, but Howard specifically had the paperback test.

So even if you were dark-skinned black, you still couldn't get into the HBCUs. That's a black school, so black people were doing that? Black people... People are just shit. We're all shitty. Yeah. We're just all shitty.

Yeah, of course we are. Of course we are. We're just every single human being, every race and creed, most of the people in that race and creed, no matter who they are,

are just shitty people. Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah. It's just shitty. We just fucking... Whatever's closest to us will fuck up

is what we do. I agree. You know what I mean? I've been saying this. We're just shitty. We're just shit people. Yeah, yeah. fucking whatever's closest to us will fuck up is what we do i agree you know i've i've always i've i've been saying this shitty we're just shit people yeah no we'll just work but i mean look at look at even us as human beings as the animal that's made at this farming we've killed 99 of things that have existed with us i mean even where do we find that the actual neanderthal that we're um uh well that's a weird thing.

I don't think anyone knows what to make of it, but they found out that only Europeans have traces of Neanderthal DNA. European-descended white people. Yeah. Interesting. Asians don't have it. Blacks don't have it. So there could be a reason why whites are evil.

Yeah, white people don't... We don't have good track records in history. No, but here's the other thing. But we're being good now. They're also learning that Neanderthals, first of all, they were another human.

They were another type of human. Yeah, so they were not everyone's created equal. Now that's the problem. Well, they're not as stupid. Neanderthals, they're funny, weren't as stupid

as they thought. Right. But they are seeing that they're kind of humans and Neanderthals. At one point, there was 13 different types of hominids on the planet at the same time.

Humans? Humans. 13 different types. That's why I said we're not all cut from the same cloth. So a person from a certain part of the world is going to act different and be different than somebody else. But obviously, they want everyone to be like, we're all created equal, which is not true. Wow. Kind of.

So it's an argument for euthanasia? Is that what you're all talking about? Yeah. That's bad. That's where it gets bad. Yeah. See, with him, you got to watch him because he's German. Wow. So it's an argument for euthanasia. Is that what y'all talking about? Yeah. That's where it gets bad. Yeah. See with him, you got to watch him cause he's German.

Yeah. So any, so I, yeah, he's a really different cloth. Yeah. He catches himself once in a while and we, I,

we, you have to constantly check and be like, no, that's not a good idea. My cloth likes to just clean. Yeah. The Germans just wipe up a little bit. Germans just always,

they have something in them where the Germans are just kind of looking to do bad stuff. You always got to watch those guys. I don't know if it's bad, it's just extreme. I don't know if you ever mess around with a couple of German girls. They're just really excited. They get over That's what it is. And that could go wrong, that over excitement. Exactly. In the 40s it went wrong. It went wrong

in two world wars that they caused. You're just problems. But if you visit Berlin now, good freaky time. Good, yeah. Freaky deaky time. Freaky deaky time. It's a real good time to be on the plane. All that stuff is great.

It's a great time to be on the fucking, you can do whatever you want now. Yeah. You can genuinely, I mean, there's no rules. What are the rules now? We have a, this is a good little era we're living in, I think, like where there's like, especially if you live in a place like New York

or something where there's like, I wouldn't say there's racial harmony, but we've gone past a lot of shit. Don't you think? Like, if you look at the history, based on comparing it to how things were not even that long ago,

we've come a long way. And it's a time where we don't have to go to war. There's plenty of meat. Like... Wait, wait, wait. You're saying it came a long way from what?

It came a long way from, like, the 60s. We're talking about racial harmony? Racial harmony. Well, that's one part of it, though. I mean, we got a long way to what? It came a long way from like the 60s. We're talking about racial harmony? That's one part of it, though. I mean, we got a long way to go, but I'm just saying it's not horrific like it used to be. Horrific, okay. Yeah, let's hear from your perspective because it is Black History Month. It is Black History Month. I mean, since you said, oh, everything's...

I mean, shit, I'm very complicated when it comes to race relations because I've thought about it way too much. I would say that... And you have banged a lot of white women as reparations. Yeah, I've thought about it way too much. I would say that... And you have banged a lot of women, white women, as reparations. Yeah, I've banged... You're doing your part.

I've banged all... You're doing your part. You have on A6. You're doing your part to be white. I'm doing my part to make racial harmony, asshole. Yeah.

I mean, the way he's had it, he's just put together nice. He's a good-looking kid. He's a good-looking kid. He's a very well-dressed kid. Yeah. I'm very...

I'm trying. I'm trying to make white people not be scared of me. Let's talk because Black History Month. Is this going to go up at Black History Month? It'll be up this week. We have to put Cena up immediately because he's our last Black History guest. Was there any other Black History guests? We did episodes on Harriet Tubman. Garrett Morgan. Marvin Gaye. Harriet Tubman Garrett Morgan Garrett Morgan is the best

Marvin Gaye George Washington Carver and then for guests, for black guests we've had Andrew Schultz you and Jeff Dye who else do we have? Tiki Barber

Tiki Barber, Seaton Smith Yamuniga canceled on us, but we said if she came on, she'd count for two blacks because she's very black. Yeah. She'll come on. She's got strong opinions.

Keith canceled also. Who? Keith. Keith canceled on us. Keith canceled. I'm not doing it, don't worry. I'm the only one saying yes.

Okay, I got you. You and Tiki. You and Tiki Barber. Tiki Barber. We got two very white black guys i resent that application yeah chris is just you know he's a kid from ridgewood you can't the reason why i wanted to have seen the reason main reason obviously funny but that's just doesn't need to be said we all know that but it's it's like um i wanted to have somebody on who where we could talk race and it could because tiki can't talk about it because he's very corporate

receipt could just go in and we could just say we could just talk openly and Tiki can't talk about it because he's very corporate. Racine could just go in and we could just say, we could just talk openly. Tiki did avoid it a few times, but I get it. Also, I needed a comedian and I wanted a comedian on because we're all fucking sitting,

talking about it. It's like we're all like kind of like brothers and sisters in this side of it. So it's like you could just be free and honest and talk, which I like. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. So you're saying- It's the American story. What was he, what were you getting to? You were going to get to something. And then. Then you went on a tangent. I went.

Well, welcome to the hyenas. Yeah. No, I hear you. I hear you. When you talk about race, shit gets all awkward and shit. So you got to talk it out and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it was me being white, black. I don't know. I know I annoy the fuck out of black people. I ain't going to lie. But why do you think that? Oh, why do i annoy black people um because i don't really think everybody's evil cleanly like i don't think like i don't believe in evil so much as i believe in stupidity i think the government's a lot more stupid than it is evil

because i think like a lot of times we think of these conspiracies like oh man the government's going out of the way to do this evil i don't think the government's that capable to do that shit you know i just don't think they're they're smart. I think they're all just trying to survive and shit. I got in trouble for what? I was saying, I think in 2020, being divided is like a business now. If division is like people are making money, like the fucking

what's-his-face, the blogger. People finding problems. People have jobs. Yeah, people have jobs talking about problems. What's his fucking sam shepherd no sam shepherd he's writing plays again yeah sam seth simon seth simon like he doesn't want to really fix anything guys like that they want to keep the division they want to keep it up so you know what i mean who is trying to reunite things then actually no i'm saying give me an

example of somebody who actually is trying to unite things actually i don't see anybody trying to do that i think we are i think uh um i think i think we are a little bit our our our listenership is like crazy diverse like seriously like we get a sample of it through our patreon when we do our live shows nice yeah and like we're not trying to capture a diverse audience but for some reason like we're not actively going for it. But like for some reason, we have like as diverse a listenership, it like blows my mind. I like that because that means that like,

hey, we're uniting people through funny. We're talking real. We're just trying to be funny. We're not trying to pander. We're just being us and people are gravitating towards us of all creeds and colors and races. But I feel like got a lot of trans fans we do have trans fans i feel like comedians though in an like whether it's subconsciously or consciously some of us

we're all kind of like united like like uh like um i uh uh like if we were in corporate america like we probably couldn't talk as like openly and honestly as we can like to each other at like the comedy cellar table or like a podcast. Like, you know, you just can't, you know, because like you're all like we're not worried about anything because we're like we all it's all understood. Like we're just we're just trying to be funny. But there's no hate towards anybody because of what they look or sound or act like. Well, we have a bond. We just hate them. We're all outside.

Yeah, we're kind of... Comedians are the only group, like, if you saw him, a kid from Ridgewood, me, a kid from Park Slope, you from D.C., black, white, Greek, German, not from D.C. Everywhere, it doesn't matter. Where are you from originally? I was born in San Diego,

but I moved every two years growing up until I was 18. Where'd you graduate from high school? Mount Cleary, New Jersey. Jersey. I didn't know. I Where'd you graduate from high school? Mount Cleary, New Jersey. Jersey. I didn't know. I thought you were from D.C. You just came up at college in comedy. College in comedy, yeah,

but I moved so many times but it's easier to say that. Was your dad in the military or something? No, my mom was just a hippie. She just didn't want to be on her deathbed and regret not doing something.

When I would do shows- Is she still alive? Mm-hmm. Still doing shit. All right, good. All right, all right. You got new things. Seton was the guy

like when you went and did shows in any room in D.C. in the D.C. area everyone just Seton was like the guy it was Seton and Tony Woods were the two names

everyone would be like yeah Seton he was just like running he was just the funniest guy there do you go back to D.C. still? yeah I go there like two or three times a year yeah man

I just did a Kennedy Center then we did this other festival there yeah I'm I love that Kennedy Center's great Kennedy Center's great every room in that motherfucker's great

They had like a new Extended kind of room there too Yeah, yeah, yeah I was there like two weeks ago Oh, did you? It was great, yeah Oh shit, which room? Studio K or something like that

It was called That's fucking awesome It was nice Driving up to that venue I just feel extra special Yeah It feels like a White House And there's a great view of the lake

You're like, yo I'm a performer DC's the most beautiful city Like it's like a museum of a city it is it really is and the people there are fucking dope i mean when i first moved there was a weird transition because i got there in 2000 when it was like when the gentrification just started happening when the murder hadn't really finished yet so like i got to see both of like i remember 2000 thinking myself seeing looking at those abandoned row houses going fuck i wish i had money because those things are gonna be worth like six million dollars right and i didn't have to do it so it's a great fucking place now they are now they're worth

fucking there's no abandoned buildings that motherfucker anymore i left in 99 right before right before like when i was there it was like northwest and then they were like certain little slithers northeast you could go to but like yeah there was like Northwest. And then there were like certain little slithers Northeast you could go to. But like, yeah, there was like you were at nighttime. You were like, there was a lot of crime. Even Northwest, you get robbed. There was so, yeah. I remember there was a drive by three blocks away from my house.

It was a, this is not a funny story, but it made me laugh. We'll make it funny. It was dark as fuck where dude got killed, right? In a beef. They had a funeral. And then the dudes decide to fucking do a drive by on the funeral procession. Oh my God. I know. It was dark as fuck where dude got killed, right, in a beef. They had a funeral. And then the dudes decide to fucking do a drive-by on the funeral procession. Oh, my God. I know.

I was like, yo. And kill more people? Fucking freak. Yeah, that's brutal. That's fucking freaky. And that was like not that long ago. I was like, yo. Jesus Christ.

I remember when I was going to school there because I went to college there. I remember. Wait, what college did you go to? Howard. Howard. And you went to American. Nice. Oh, shit. There was

a, on like, in Georgetown, like M Street or something, there was a Starbucks I believe, or was it Wisconsin? I can't remember. But like, yeah, it was stuck up at gunpoint. They took all the employees back and they killed them all. It just went wrong and they killed them all. That was while I was going to school there. Wait, what? Yeah.

You can Google it. That story's still there. A Starbucks robbery went wrong? Went wrong, yeah. What the fuck? They. You can Google it. That story's still there. Starbucks robbery went wrong? Went wrong, yeah. What the fuck? They took all the employees back. Oh, my God. I don't think they ever saw it. They ended up killing all the employees.

What the fuck? And it was just like these innocent employees, man, who probably didn't give a shit. About that. About the fucking money. It's like, take it. You know? No, that's a lot of things went wrong.

That's straight crap. Let me ask you a question. With Howard, a lot of things went wrong. That's def, that's straight crap. Let me ask you a question. With Howard, are,

what's, Howard is the number one academic historically black college, right? I have no idea. Don't they say that Howard's like

the Harvard for black colleges? Yes, I believe so. I do. I don't know if that's the expression, but maybe Mike, can you look it up?

Is that true? It's the number one one. And the one it is, you got Morehouse, you got Howard. Is Tus tuskegee still is that like tuskegee rambling but i know grambling had a white quarterback in the early 2000 times have fucking changed so that's my question so what what happens now can you are historically black college now can anybody go they've always been able yeah they've always been able to go they've always been open to white people always really just majority or just not white?

What white person wants to go? Sean King. Sean King, he can't wait to go. Exactly. No, there was literally, when I was there, honestly, because Rachel Dolezal went to Howard approximately the time I went there. Really? That's the thing because I remember when they mentioned her, I remember specifically this one white girl

who used to wear dashiki and had micro braids and she was in charge of this one african fraternity because she was trying to like recruit people for that and i remember seeing her i was like yo is that rachel because i had to ask and call a couple howard friends like yo is that the same woman like nah that's just another woman white another white woman who thinks she's black right wow you know what it is you know what's hard for me that's crazy for guys like us you know from brooklyn grow up in the city it's hard of course i can we can all understand like and stuff. But because we've been around so many different races, religions and cultures and shit like that, like, for me, I'm just like, when I see it, like, we were talking about this on the Garrett Morgan episode, I was listening, like, we were like, how do people from the South, like, when we mentioned, like, Kentucky and, like, the Civil War stuff, it's like, how do you get your brain to a place where you think you're superior to someone because you guys have different skin color? Like, how does it even happen?

You know what I mean? Yeah, education. Marketing. Education. Marketing, industry. No, no, I mean specifically education. The education system in the South is completely different than the ones in the North. What do you think?

They teach history differently. They teach the history that the Civil War was an internal dispute, not a real war. They call it the war of northern aggression northern aggression so that that essentially that that's the level but also the idea that racism is a southern thing is also something i know but i mean because like i was like i said i moved a lot and my mother as a hippie didn't move around good people it was a lot of shitty people like i remember when i was seven or eight and our white landlord kicked us out of that white of our house i remember all our shit on the front yard i'm just calling us niggas and shit so i was like that was in california where everybody was peace

really yes i mean you know it's fucking wild like i literally it must just be like a generation thing because i grew up brooklyn you know some of my friends are like cops firemen like what you would think is like the most you know you, you would think from the movies, you'd be like, Oh, these people got to be fucking pieces of shit. Probably racist. I've never in my life heard any member of my friends or family say a racial slur. We joke around about it, but I've actually never heard it. I can talk about this. Southern racism and Northern racism are very different in that Southern racism

is in your face, but almost polite. And they'll just be upfront. Like Southern racism is like, I, we don't want you here now leave. Whereas Northern racism is usually like behind your back. Well, almost like more paperwork based.

Like, you're not, you're not going to be in this building, but we're not going to tell you why. Right. But is that, that is that, is that tied up in the Southern and Northern culture? Because Southern culture is like fake polite, like, hi, welcome.

Have some sweet tea. And Northern people are a little more aggressive. Is it tied up in the culture? You know what I'm saying? Because racism is racism. Maybe it's just you mix racism with Northern personalities. It comes out that way. You mix racism with Southern personalities. It comes out like, hi, how you doing?

Yeah, I mean, that's like a surface issue where like, it's like, all right, well, how it comes out really doesn't bother me for black people. As long as it's out, we're like,

oh, we're fucking paranoid. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, somebody called me. Whenever I'd go to Mississippi, like, tell me what happened and they're like,

well, why did you go there? Like the black people would be like, why did you go there? That's a dumb idea. Yeah, I mean, whereas here it'd be like a protest if something like that were to happen no no pro you know i mean people would be mad that it happened i mean not not like uh like white people would be mad that it happened that's what i mean like white people be the ones i think you

overestimate white people um honestly on that level i'm not saying what i mean is like uh hear me oh sorry sorry for 57 years uh black taxis weren't being picked up by black people and we would laugh at it. They would go, oh, what are you talking about, black people? Taxis don't be... They laughed at us. And now Uber came out. Now it's not an issue anymore. So that premise that white people get mad when racism is not a real thing. You know, I had a joke

about that, though. And I don't know, maybe back in the day, but the joke was like, it is true, because I had a lot of black friends growing up and cabs won't stop for black people. It's true. But my joke was like, but that has nothing to do with white people. When's the last time you saw a white taxi driver? Yes.

I was like, oh, it was 1973. It was a movie directed by Martin Scorsese. Like, I was like, that is a problem directed at South Asians. Yes. And Arabs. Yes. Because that's who, and in D.C. it was a lot of Africans who were taxi drivers. They specifically would drive by me. I remember being

stuck in that city and I'd be like, hey, I'm white on the inside. I would just yell at them. Just to see what happened. Yeah, so the racism just comes in different forms. That's almost just like, I had an original point before we even started talking about that shit. Well, I had the answer to your question earlier about the

Howard is a Harvard of black colleges. Oh, yes. Oh, okay. That is considered that, and it is part of the unofficial Black Ivy League, which are Fisk, Morehouse, Spellman, Dillard, Howard, Hampton, and Tuskegee. Nice. There you go. Tuskegee was founded by Booker T. Washington.

Tuskegee. Tuskegee was about, oh yeah. And Washington, George Washington Carver. Booker T. were boys. Booker T. made a phone call to him.gee was about. Oh, yeah. And Washington Carver. George Washington Carver. Booker T were boys. Booker T made a phone call to him. He was like, come head up a botany department at Tuskegee. And he was making a lot of money. He dropped it.

That's why I like George Washington Carver. He made a lot less money to start a botany department. Garrett Morgan. For me, it's all about Garrett Morgan. Garrett Morgan's a superstar gets overlooked. Yeah. He's like me in comedy. Yeah. Yeah. I can't believe people don't know more about Garrett Morgan. For me, it's all about Garrett Morgan. Garrett Morgan's a superstar gets overlooked. Yeah, he's like me in comedy. Yeah, I can't believe people don't know more about Garrett Morgan. He invented the gas mask.

You know how many fucking white lives were saved in World War I with the gas mask? Didn't he invent the multi-chamber and the guns? The streetlight. I don't know about the multi-chamber. I feel like he invented the guns. But he did do the streetlight. Streetlight, but the gas mask in World War I. He invented that. His wife was German.

A German wife. Fucking wild. Yeah. Well, you got to be crazy at that point. There was, you know, the black guy actually invented how the trains buckle. Yes. That shit too. From Baltimore.

No, yeah, he was, he's from Baltimore. I know who you're talking about. What's his name? Baltimore? Yeah, it was like a rent. No, no, no. No, the kid was from Baltimore. I'm pretty sure of it.

I just can't remember his name. Yeah, I definitely remember his name. Yeah. But that's, yeah, that's fuck. I love the other ones. Yeah, but Garrett Morgan's a superstar. What's his idea? But I want to talk about this,

because like- Go ahead, talk it out. You just joked about that you were white on the inside. You made the joke. When Chris made the joke, it made you a little uncomfortable. I kind of understand that. Wait, what did I do?

When you joked about that- Oh, I'm not black. He was white. But then he just made a joke about it. When Chris made the joke, it made you a little uncomfortable. I kind of understand that. Wait, what did I do? When you joked about that seat was white, but then he just made a joke about it. And I was just saying, like, I understand it because there's a sensitivity to it in our culture and our history. And in my culture and history, like the Greeks were enslaved by Turks for probably comparable amount of time, for like 400 something years.

Right. And if like, if somebody calls me a Turk, even though I'm a comedian, we're all comedians, we make jokes about everything, whatever, it's fine. And I try to be joking, but there's a little part of me that goes,

I get that little, there's like a little anger that comes up. Oh yeah, definitely comes up. Like I can joke about it, or if someone jokes about it, I still think it's funny. Like you probably didn't take it personally when Chris said it,

because you know he's joking, but it's like, you can't help it because it's part of the culture because isn't it wasn't it considered by other black people like that whole uncle tom's cabin thing like if you're collaborating with white people calling someone white became sort of an insult same way for greeks if like because there were a lot of greeks who collaborated with the turks worked for the turks if you call a greek a turk or something it's like a fucking it's like a mortal insult yeah no

it's just lovely but i it's one of those things where like when i was in my 20s i really got pissed off about it and offensive and fucking try to overcompensate now i'm my 30s it's like it's like i think melania had this joke was like you know when you're in your 20s and you're like effeminate a little bit you're like people are you worried do you think people are you think you're gay you're like in your 20s but then you're in your 30s you're like i got real man shit i got to do i'm wearing a shirt that says yep I'm gay I know I'm not fucking gay

you get comfortable in who you are I don't care anymore at all I'm like I am who I am dude I ain't gonna I can't be nothing else and you probably get

a lot of shit so a lot of shit also comes from the black side too right like people like much more you know seeing hanging out

white people talking to certain like that's not even the hanging out white people it's just more or less like you fuck with that white shit

you talk weird it's like i don't even talk white i just talk weird i don't talk no type of black but i don't talk no type of white right no white guy sounds like right right black guy sounds i just fucking sound weird and you sound like you how you want to sound i sound like i want to sound i sound like you sound like yeah it's one of those like all right well you just gotta uh just accept who i am i mean it's one of those i used to get really insecure now i'm like what am i gonna do well that's what i was gonna say like insecurity and all that stuff and you know all this you know take down everybody that's like young people bored people problems when you as you get older yeah and as you got like real shit to worry about it's like is that

really the biggest thing that's affecting me right now? Most of the times, the things that college kids are getting so upset at are things that really it's like once you get older, you're like, man, I see. Like, you know, we talk about straws, plastic straws, paper straws. It's like that's not really that big of a deal. You know, that's not really that big of a deal at all. It's just a thing that you're angry about because you're really angry at something else. I don't fucking know. That's all it is. They're angry about some other shit.

You know, they transfer it to you um so i don't even i don't even contemplate when people call me white now i'm like i i don't think you know enough stuff nigga fuck it i remember when um like uh two two good black friends i've had recently in college my buddy todd robinson right and me and him used to go to we loved hootie we didn't give you a wedding gift he didn't give you a wedding hoot to We loved Hootie We didn't give you A wedding gift We loved Hootie We didn't give you A wedding gift We loved Hootie

We loved Hootie And then Donnell When I was hanging out With Donnell When I first started Doing comedy He started listening to Hootie And I remember

It was like always A funny thing for him I just loved Hootie Because I was like I was like free to like Hootie Because I'm like a white kid So I can like So there's this thing

Where like And I would always joke Like I was like Damn black people Are missing out On a lot of good music You know what I would always joke like I was like damn black people are missing out on a lot of good music you know what I mean just cause like

it's like taboo or something like you can't be like a black guy in like Radiohead right you're like what the fuck's up you know

yeah no it was a big big deal for me to buy a white record when I was like 16 cause I think I bought like a Lenny Kravitz I was the first it's not even a white record

but it was like rock and roll music the first and I remember going like I didn't show it to nobody and then after that I bought a Beck CD and I didn't show it to nobody you're in the closet in the closet like in this white music and shit it was just like what i fucking yeah i grew up listening to a bunch of other shit dude so it's just like and plus it's annoying too when you

because like i said i grew up in a bunch of different states growing up and so like when you live with when you start living with people who only lived in one fucking place oh my god yeah one definition of everything. You're just like, well, I'm not going to try to prove my blackness. Well, that's what ignorance is. It's like, you know, these fucking people don't know any better. Yeah. That's what I was saying.

In New York City, it's like I would just never. Like one of my, I was in, I forgot where the fuck I was. Iowa, Des Moines, Funny Bone. And one of the comedians, thec was talking about um his friend and then he was like um he was like oh you know he kept saying my black friend and i was like why do you in my head i was just i didn't say i don't know the guy so i was like it was just interesting to me i was like i would never even think to even refer to someone as that be like it's just my friend like or i have to you know say i'm telling a story about

someone like oh and they were black if it does if it has nothing to do with the story it's like why because that's just white point of view perspective shit yeah you know what i mean that's a go ahead no i'm saying so it's like that so but it's like are they trying to signal like i'm a safe white person no that guy and i know but my point is like that guy and i was not a bad guy but he doesn't even realize where it's like your youth there's no reason to say that this person is black or whatever they are you're just basically telling me they're not white you don't even realize it but i think we didn't grow it's like i would never my friends that came to my house were just like i don't know that just was never a thing see i would defend iowans only because of my only my

small experience with them was just like i remember one day like i was going to do a college game in iowa but i was in d., so I went for a run in D.C., and I remember running in the middle of the day and I ran behind, a white woman was walking down the street and I ran on the right side of her, and she flinched. I was like, huh. I get it, flinch. Okay, cool. Black guy running down the street, flinch. I remember I was in Iowa. And that's the same with that neurotic

seat and energy, like, I'm sorry. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, I'm just trying to walk by. So, I remember in Iowa, though, the next day, I was doing another run, and it was literally the middle of the night. It was like night at night. It was pitch black. And I ran by a white woman and she turned to me and smiled like, ah, welcome. And I was like, oh, it's just like one of those like I know the wording he used in Iowa was wrong, but almost was like, but they yes, they have baby.

That's a little racist. But I know their under core is like sometimes like they don't know enough black black people to hate them that's what that's the one thing i used to make fun of i was like i don't think y'all know enough black people to even have stereotypes right because he's just like you're not even familiar with what they would be yeah yeah yeah i mean there's some places in the south obviously they build up their own thing from history of stuff but i mean there's some places like i don't like my ex-girlfriend did not know enough black people at all yeah she was white and so like yeah she would say shit to me that i'd be like what the fuck you say that for but then i'm like oh she doesn't i don't think my ex-girlfriend did not know enough about black people at all yeah she was white and so like yeah she would say shit to me i'd be like what the fuck you say that for but then i'm like oh she doesn't i don't think she knows enough black people to even yeah i just was able to

realize like in as soon as you start to get like smart enough to know anything like in high school and stuff like when somebody would be like you know whatever you would hear like hey stop talking black it's like what is that even your everything is from the white point of view where it's like it never bothered me it's like you talk how that even your, everything is from the white point of view where it's like, it never bothered me. It's like, you talk how you talk. Like remember it was always talk about like Ebonics. Like to me,

it's like, that's just a, that's just their own language. It's just a language. It's like, it doesn't bother me if you have a French accent because I'm like, I know whatever. But there's history.

There's a, there's complicated nuance history there with that, with the way, like when you say like talking black, like it, there's like really like, I mean, Chris Rock had that great bit about it where it, like, really brought it to people's attention where for

most of African Americans' existence in America, if you read, it was a crime. Like, that's a crime to learn. So that's gonna, like, that's gonna leave a mark. That's gonna be, like, that's a psychological impediment. That's, like, we can's going to leave a mark. That's going to be like, that's a psychological impediment.

Right. That's like, we can't relate to that because we never had that somewhere in our brain. Like we never had to worry about anything like that. Like if you learned, you know, on the one hand, like it's illegal. And then the other people being like, you're acting white. There's a whole fucking thing there that is complicated. Well, here's the thing I want to point out, though. It's just frustrating for me in the 90s.

Black people didn't know there was a black way to talk, but black people didn't know that there were different dialects of black. That makes sense. So like Southern black and New York black talk are completely different, especially as different than California talk, which is different than Missouri talk. And we didn't really even know there was a difference until like motherfuckers like Outkast came out with an album in 97. And Southern niggas started talking different. That was when everybody started going, oh, wait. There's a different dialect? Well, that's a problem. I respect the gulagishi, the creole.

There's different fucking words. But that's, furthermore, the problem when your country is too big. It's just too big. Let's make it smaller. 350 million people. Pull it in, guy. If you think New York is the same United States as fucking kentucky you're wrong it's just not so it's like it's too big of a place so it's like there's going to be a thousand different

you know languages and dialects and religions it's like for me it's like that's all fine this example this idea of a united states it's like it's it can't too many people but now you can't unite that many people through the internet now everyone's getting very familiar with each other though, right? We're learning. Dude, I remember I went to Montenegro, former Yugoslavia, where my boy Marco's from, with my buddy Todd, and nobody in that country had ever seen a black person before.

This was 1999. There was really no internet. This was like compact Presario days. And it was like, everyone was just pointing at him and they were going, Michael Jordan. Little kids were going, Michael Jordan. They were pointing, Jordan, Jordan. And they were like fascinated

because they just had never seen a black dude before. That doesn't exist anymore. Because wherever you are, well, very few places. My boy lives in a Southern town in China. Yes, near Wuhan. Yeah, they don't let him have the internet there. And it's like a country Hobart town. And them motherfuckers follow him around.

They blame the coronavirus on him. You know, they probably do. Probably do. But they definitely like, they do weird shit. Like he knows enough Chinese to get around and so Mandarin to get around. And so he'll be in the supermarket and then people will just go to the counter,

look at him and then start speaking in Mandarin. Like, what does buy where does he live who are his friends like they're just getting like yeah people follow him be like yo can i have your garbage like shit like that which i was like well because we've spoken about more more the thing is tribalism with human drive more than racism it's tribalism it's like the tribes stay with the tribes in the animal kingdom for a real human history it's like yeah of course like i wouldn't fucking you know i don't dislike anyone because of a difference it's because i grew up in new york city it's stupid but it's like most people it's like the tribalism is the real thing where it's just a function of our of our brain of our it's a nature protecting thing we got if we have tribes

stay with the tribe we would have to evolve past past it. We would have to continue to evolve. I don't think the simulated is going to be part of the game. I think the first thing is to admit it. Can we just fucking admit it and stop pretending in this utopia that we're going to ignore? Or are these people pretending

like they're so good and so virtuous and don't see race and all that shit? It's like, shut the fuck up. There's differences there. You're lying. Well, let's take race out of it for a second. Y'all don't know if you've read Malcolm Gladwell's Tipping Point. Yes, and The Outliers. There's differences there. You're lying. Well, let's take race out of it for a second. I don't know if you read Malcolm Gladwell's Tipping Point. Yes, and The Outliers.

And The Outliers. I forgot if it was Outliers or Tipping Point, but he had that point about companies. There was one company that decided to make their sites not have more than 150 employees on each site because they found that 150 was a sweet spot of productivity and closeness. Anything more, people get lost.

They feel like they're ignored and stuff, almost the classroom rule you don't want more than like 20 30 30 kids right so like that kind of taking that idea with tribalism and going like okay well these if you separate people in groups but then still have a big goal uh then objective goals and things are good but i mean there's going to be internal fights between departments this is how the world works and also it's i mean it's a nice microcosm, but when you look at the reality, I mean, you know, there's what,

eight, 10 billion people on the planet. We can't, we can't make it small. We can't make it. It's gotta be big. So it's like, we gotta have different departments and stuff.

We gotta have, I don't, I mean, we just gotta, I mean, how do you just let people, how do we, how do we tell people,

how do we pull back the perspective? Cause like astronauts always talk about that. They have that feeling when they get up and they look at the earth they get that perspective that a lot of us don't get to get and that's called meditation yeah something where they're looking at the earth and they're going like oh all the lines are imaginary all that shit is bullshit because they you know the farther you pull back the more you see yeah so it's like how do we give that to people when you look at because here's the deal racism exists all that shit but racism is not as big a problem as human as tribalism as humanity's shittiness.

Because if you look at Pakistanis and Indians, they kill each other fucking genetically. They're the same. You look at Croats, Serbs, all that shit. They're killing Ukrainians. They're killing each other. You look at all the wars in Europe. Those countries killing each other. The French and the Germans.

Those people genetically pretty fucking similar. Greeks and Turks, I just did my DNA. I'm half i'm half turkish so it's like oh shit yeah you were really offended if somebody called you turkey yeah so it's like yeah it gets complicated it gets called like you might look in and see some some european in there you know it's an american african-american a lot of european fuck you yeah no they'll be and it happened by rape and it could have happened by rape in my family it could have but. But that's the whole thing. I read the book Sapiens, and that author talked a lot about culture. And he was saying like with culture and cancel culture and appropriating culture, he said he understands it.

He said, but in its essence, it's silly because he said he brought up the idea of human culture. Because he was like, whatever you think your culture is, whatever way you're wearing your hair, whatever religion you think you are, most likely it was just your great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather and grandmother's conquerors that raped and put their culture into yours. Because right now in 2020, the world we've been around too long for anything to be really, really your culture. It's just a mixing, a melting pot of all humans just into one thing so that whole book i thought it was an interesting chapter he was like that appropriating culture it feels it feels silly for anything because it's like it's it's it's all from one you know also too i think my perspective on as i've gotten older the perspective on fights and disagreements

has completely changed two reasons one uh i started fighting a lot with MMA stuff. Yeah. And I found that when I would have conflicts with some of my teammates, it was interesting because in most situations in life, if I have to, if I get angry with somebody, I know I can't fight them, but I want to fight them. And so now there's a lot of tension of like, all right, well, how do we deal with this problem? But when you're fighting somebody already and you have a problem with them it's like oh we're fighting but we still actually actually come off the mat and actually have a real conversation about what's going on

sure and it's interesting so now fighting becomes a tool of just like not even told just like for example there's one dude you almost become more reasonable you have to right like i have to believe the benefit of the doubt this dude because i put myself in these sub situations i have we already did that thing we handled it that way that we got now that's the only we have to do that we have to do that so there's a dude i was fighting for a year and a half i totally respect him he was a 135 pound wrestler kind of dude so he was really really skilled division one beat me up every day put me on my back on the mat but on kickboxing i would beat him up so it was an equal thing here's the thing one day we're going into the locker room he takes off his gloves his hand His hand wraps are the Confederate flag. Whoa. Confederate flag

hand wraps. I'm like, what the fuck? But I didn't know what to say because we just finished fighting five minutes ago. You're going to fight again? Yeah, I'm going to fight him again. Is that a bit? That's a funny bit. I probably got a problem. Yeah, but thank you for giving it to our podcast. That's fucking hilarious. You're like, what is that?

Damn, we just fought. We just fought. So now I got to sit there like go like it happened in reverse yeah so I was like so but then like later actually later like a couple weeks later

he was like hey by the way I don't know if you saw I had these wraps that looked like a confederate flag but they were actually American flag but when I wrapped them

they looked confederate I don't know if you saw them I threw them away but it was one of those if I flipped out he would have had to explain that with confederate flag was that true you think

or he was just making a rationalization the way they were it made sense. Because they had stars and stripes, but the stripes were like in the inside. So when I saw it, I was like, it is a bad rap. You should throw it away.

But again, another example. Another time, I was in Australia. But if it was, yeah, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? What are you going to do? I don't know. I got to believe in the benefit of the doubt because he's a nice guy.

Another time, this dude was in, he's an Indian dude who lived in Australia and he was a jujitsu guy he's 25 years old with black belt which means he can kill you in fucking seconds we were i remember at one point we were rolling and um you know i don't know if y'all know how jujitsu works if like they put you in a position where they could choke you or break your arm you have to tap and ask them not to do that basically they're you asking them not to kill you and they don't it's nice right so i rolled with this guy and he was such a good fighter i think he tapped me maybe five or six times but he was doing it while watching an

nba playoff game so he was commenting on the game giving me advice and tapping me at the same time he's like watch out pop pop oh man why didn't you go for that pass it was amazing it was amazing after that he's so obsessed with black culture hip-hop nba stuff he's trying to talk to me and he's referencing some story, some rapper beef. And he says the word nigga. He says it. But he says it like an accent. He's like, nigga.

But he didn't. He was white guy. Indian. Indian. Sorry. Interesting to find out. It's an interesting problem. But here's the thing.

I already asked him six times not to kill me. And he politely did not. And now I got to ask him one more time. Hey, man, you also got to be aware of my history as a culture. I'm like, you know, I'm going to give you

the benefit of the doubt and go, you respect me and let it go. Because he didn't kill you, yeah. Yeah, because he didn't kill me.

So it's one of those layers of history. I'm like, did he say it maliciously? Because there's different ways. Exactly. He said it in a way that was like,

he was earnestly trying to be cool and failed. Now if we had fight and we were on the street, then I'd be like, hey man, you probably shouldn't say that that and then you'd be prepared to fight him because he hadn't fought yet he did yeah listen if you saw him on the street you wouldn't want to fight him because you would think he's just a little he's just a soft little sweetheart those guys are tricky yeah he's a motherfucker like jamie kilstein did he have the cauliflower ear no wow yeah no jamie kilstein like what did you say and then next thing you know

he's got you wrapped up no no he trained u UFC dudes. He's a fucking scary human being. But he's a sweetheart. And I love jiu-jitsu guys because they get very soft handshakes because they like to hide their power. So I don't know. It was one of those learning. And they're completely confident. I noticed that when I was interviewing MMA guys for a two-point lead.

It was like I was trying to figure out what it was. And it's this confidence and calm In knowing that 99% of the population You could beat the shit out of So you don't have those insecurities that other people have So you're calm and reasonable and talk it out Because most of the fighting and stuff like that Is like, my brain doesn't work Let's punch each other, you know what I mean?

It's like insecurity, it's a feeling that you're not That you need to overcompensate For feeling low But when you know, when you're sure you can whoop somebody's ass, there's no real reason to because you're sure. You're like, look, we could do this,

but it's going to be over quick and you're going to get hurt. So it's like, what do you want to do? You want to talk it out? Let's talk it out. That actually, that is one good layer, but the other layer is also, not only do I can't beat a lot of people,

I'm okay with the fact that there are a lot of people who can beat me. And I'm accepting that like, I don't know who that is. Because even if you fight really good in the MMA gym, every MMA fighter knows on the street, there's crazy motherfuckers who have crazy. So it humbles you in that way, knowing that, like, you've getting beat.

So, like, this guy could beat me. So I'm not going to try anything because I don't know what he knows. Yes, you don't know who the fuck nobody knows. Even in MMA, you can study. Jon Jones knows this for a fact. You can study a motherfucker for years and still be surprised by some new shit he does. Right.

And imagine on the street, we don't know this motherfucker. There are some fat, slobby-looking motherfuckers who are ex-Marines who know one move to take your rib. Yeah, man. Fighting is last resort. It's always been last resort. And it always, fighting, how good you are at fighting, a lot of times, just how much you know. How trained you are, yeah. Or even how lucky you are.

Sometimes you could slip on some fucking banana or ice or just lean on it. I had a friend of mine who was another student. He wasn't that high, but he knew how to fight enough. He saw a dude talking on the street, shocking shit on the street, followed him to the corner. He goes, fucking fight. They fought. He beat the guy up.

But then he slipped. He caught himself. And then he looked down and saw his arm was broken. And so he couldn't fucking fight for like a year and a half. He had to put screws in his arm. He was like, so you won the fight. fight yeah but it wasn't really worth it wasn't so talking to fights at tyson fury uh deontay walter i mean that nobody expected that to be like that blood i mean when you look at the last fight fury did touch him up every round except for

like maybe two yeah and the knockouts kind of made it a little even i guess but it looked like fury won that fight so when you look at the whole story, you're like, ah, that wasn't that surprising. The thing that was surprising is he put on that weight, and people thought he was going to be slower, and he looked sharp as ever. But the interesting thing to me, to relate that fight to this, that it just happened, is Tyson Fury, I mean, dominated

him bad. Yeah, he beat the shit out of him. But beforehand, Dante Wilder was trying to make race a thing. Did you see that time when they were talking shit? And Dante was like, all I know is this month. And Tyson Fury was like, look, man, you're trying that bullshit. He was like, we're just two men fighting, whatever. That's kind of interesting to me that like, I know there's a lot of racism and stuff and it's still a problem and stuff like that.

But you have to, that kind of feels like progress to me where it's like the black guy was trying to make it a race thing and the white guy was like hey man this ain't a fucking race thing I thought it was something deeper going on where it's just like talk to us one dude was a really good marketer and the other one's like still trying to figure out how to market himself it sucks that you he was trying to play heel there or he was

trying to make it or try to sell it in some way I don't even think Deontay's that more complicated to understand heel hero I think honestly it's just trying to promote and he's okay at it he ain't great like he's beating he's knocked out 42 people and the country still kind of didn't know him you're like versus fury he's fucking he is i don't know if you ever studied pr shit that is the shit he did after he got up from that fucking i mean even before that shit his whole pitching like i got i got myself sober i've had all these stories he's one of the best storytelling motherfuckers i've ever met in my life yeah he can just he can spin bullshit out of bullshit he's got personality too

exactly deontay's not that guy he's like i'm gonna i'm gonna punch you yeah all right it's just like it's not a race thing it's always like i mean he just didn't know how to tell a good story but you know if you tell a good story shit if you look at the history of boxing though often that was the case often that was the case well it was like you look at the history of boxing, though, often that was the case. Often that was the case. It was like, you look at Jack Johnson and then heavyweights after that. If there was like a great white hope, that's where the expression great white hope comes from. And you could feel people rooting for people based on racial. I don't feel like it's that.

Maybe in a lot of places it's still like that. I don't feel it as much as I used to because I used to feel it. I used to feel it in like the 80s and 90s. You could feel, you know, Peter McNeely. You know what I mean? Everyone's going like, this is going to be I used to feel it. I used to feel it in like the 80s and 90s. You could feel, you know, Peter McNeely. You know what I mean? Everyone's going like, this is going to be Tyson. I honestly think the Mayweather and McGregor fight brought out race in a level that was like unparalleled.

See, for me, you think so because I think there's nationalism, more nationalism too because I remember, I know just in the fight, I wanted Wilder to win just because he was American. I'm like, I'm rooting for an American. It's Deontay Wilder's American over Tyson's own. I saw the country before I saw the race, which is both stupid things, but it's just how my brain works. Do you think a lot of white people were rooting for McGregor

because he was white or because he was an underdog? Also, you got the Mayweather, but also Mayweather, because I was rooting for Mayweather just because he was a boxer. I was rooting for Mayweather because McGregor talks so much shit. I was rooting for Mayweather just because he was a boxer. I was rooting for Mayweather because McGregor talks so much shit. I was rooting for Mayweather because he was American. I just think about being an American first.

Yeah. Is that wild? Is that racist even though I'm rooting for the black guy? You're racist against other countries. You're a nationalist. I don't know. I'm a nationalist.

No, you're a good foot soldier. I'm a German national. Yeah, that's what it is. Gotta have teams. Gotta have teams. It makes things much more interesting. Even though I know the whole construct is stupid.

But Mayweather also, you can't put aside his personality. I mean, he had those wife-beating charges. He flaunts his money in everyone's face. He's not a great, lovable guy. He consciously became a heel in order to make more money. Yeah. I see that. And McGregor consciously made himself a heel to make more money.

That was the whole event. It was like there was two heels against each other. So you're like, well, how do we promote this? But you think it did kind of around race? It always comes out? Well, it's because I couldn't help but notice how much they loved McGregor's effort against Mayweather. You were like, it wasn't that great.

Well, but I mean, the thing is, McGregor was old, but he did put on, he did touch him more than Canelo. He did touch him. Which is surprising. But Canelo was really young. I actually admit that. I saw that recently. But I mean, like, Canelo's at least a boxer. Canelo's He did touch him. Which is surprising. But Canelo was really young. I actually admit that. I saw that recently. But I mean, like, Canelo's at least a boxer. Canelo's, like, skilled fast.

I mean, McGregor fucked Canelo up. Like, did Canelo even touch his face? He didn't. I don't think he did. I mean, McGregor at least hit him. I would say, of all the fights, had anyone touched him, maybe Sugar Shane Mosley touched him a little bit at the beginning. Yeah, he caught him. Other than that, Who the fuck has touched

Mayweather like McGregor did So it's like There's some legitimacy To that too True yeah True and I Can't help but let go Of the idea that like

Mayweather did not train For that fight He only kind of like Kept himself in shape Because he knew He knew he had a He knew he had a lemon Yeah he just knew

He was going to make more money So I mean He probably even let it go Those rounds To just say I'm going to go this route Let him tire himself out But that'll happen Around the 6th, 7th

And it'll put on a little bit of a show I mean, he's such a superior boxer To anyone who we face To me, he's the greatest boxer of all time It's not even comparable Because he barely got hit Not only did he beat everyone, he barely even got hit My only issue with him calling him the greatest

Is just that the other fighters Who would be compared to him fought the people who would be problems. For example, Sugar Ray Robinson fought motherfuckers who he had trouble with five different times. Mayweather would never fight a motherfucker he's had trouble with five different times. Who did he even have trouble with? I feel like

he had trouble with Sugar Shane at first. Then he fucked Sugar Shane up. Sugar Shane was also on steroids. He also delayed that motherfucker five years after he should have. He also delayed that motherfucker for like five years after he should have. He did. He delayed every fight that he should have had.

He was like five years after. But then when he did fight, that's the thing with Mayweather, you got to look for reasons. You're like, oh, if he had fought Pacquiao, but then he fucked Pacquiao up. You know,

when you look at the slow motion, it was a boring fight. He made it boring. That's the problem with Mayweather. He kind of, he broke the code of boxing and he's like, and he holds

and he's like, and he got that shell defense. He's like Jack Johnson. Yeah, nobody can touch his face. And then he holds. Jack Johnson, we did a whole episode on him months ago. Oh, my God. Watching videos.

Because you were saying how the guy was beating you up, but also checking the NBA playoff games. He was beating, they have footage of it, him beating the shit out of this guy. Heavyweight title. Talking to the guy's wife, flirting with women, or doing shit that was like he you know he just he was like literally 30 percent destroying he almost seemed like he was taken from modern times and put back there like those are the people who

push things forward yeah just bigger than the zeitgeist in my opinion though boxing hasn't like evolved much since the 1800s you look at the forms they were doing then they're not much different now they're like our fight fighting is like it's not like basketball basketball is one of the things we had to figure out the last hundred years fighting we've been doing since day one so do you think like jack johnson could stand toe-to-toe with tyson fury deontay wilder right now and it'd be the same in my opinion even fight because of like but i mean people always like oh what about like you know genetic and our bodies getting bigger but jack johnson was fucking as big as deontay wilder no fucking kid well that jonte walder six seven oh yeah maybe not as big as

deontay wilder he was you know jack jack's were like six two six one he was a big fucking and he didn't get hit that's the thing like he wasn't it's not like he was like getting rocked he was holding he was he was like one of the best grapplers yeah standing up so no i think he but boxing was different then i don't think they were as skilled the glove no i think they were i think they were i well i, videotape to me makes you a better boxer. If you could watch yourself on tape, you were going to get a lot better.

Has Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua ever fought? Or Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua ever fought? AJ has run from everybody. That's the story. He's run from everybody. I mean, he got, I mean.

Because Joshua has to fight Wilder or Fury now, right? Fury now, yeah. Fury's a beautiful boxer. Fury's going to fuck him up. Yeah, he's going to fuck him up too. As long as he doesn't, like if he trains and everything like that, he's going to fuck him up. He's's gonna fuck him up Yeah he's gonna fuck him up too As long as he doesn't Like if he trains

And everything like that He's gonna fuck him up He's gonna fuck him up But here to my point Tell me if I'm wrong though It's like the Klitschko's Dominated heavyweight division Which is the most popular division

The one that everyone Talks about for a little while Mayweather Was the Is the top grossing Boxer He's black Right

So it's like That's not all Black people tuning in Maybe it's white people Tuning in to hate him I don't know But he's still a star i'm just saying like it used to be it used to really be like everyone was rooting for the white guy no matter what and they hated the black guy um until a certain time and now it's like the klitschko's dominated no but no white people were talking about like hey the whites are on top of i never heard it never felt

that a guy named lomaachenko who is considered the pound for pound best in white circles. You mean Triple G? No, Lomachenko. Triple G's good too. Triple G's really good. I think he won against Canelo. But no, Lomachenko's amazing to watch.

So is that me coming from like a blind white perspective? You're completely right about that. The Rocky was the entire premise of Rocky was based off of, let's see if this white guy can beat this black guy. It was that whole like, you know, let's see if we can beat Ali. So you're saying it's gotten better. It's just not all the way. There's still that.

I think it's still there. I mean, I agree with that. If you don't know anybody in the fight and it's a black and white guy, I'm automatically unconsciously going for the white, black guy. Just in case. I'm like, let's see here. And then, absolutely. But then if I actually know the guy, then I'm automatically Unconsciously going for the white Black guy Right Just in case I'm like See you And then Absolutely

But then if I actually know the guy Then I'm like It's so funny how much Race in America Has played out through sports A lot of times Yeah absolutely There was that whole Celtics

And Celtics and the Pistons Yes When Isaiah said that about Bird But then Bird came And was like Whatever And then Dennis Rodman Supported Isaiah

And then everyone hated the Pistons And And, uh, you know, Larry was, cause Larry was like the great white hope. He was. So it's always kind of played out in sports. This kind of like racial divide. Interesting. It's an interesting story. It sells tickets. It's movies. It's the American story, man. We have this, we, it's the American story. Like black, who's more American than black people? My parents got...

I'm not as American as you, right? Are you as American? You're not as American. What are you, German? You guys were doing something to Jews. Someone in your ancestors... Your mom banged out David Dinkins. Yeah, my mom probably did bang out.

Well, David Dinkins definitely put his hand on my mom's leg. They were best friends in law school. David Dinkins is the only American mayor. Yeah, but you got... Probably two generations ago, you had someone who changed their name just so they said they weren't in Dachau. Scene's gotta go.

We were just getting intense conversation, too. This is a good one. I like this. This is a different speed than our other ones, which is what we love about our podcast. Every episode is completely different. Sometimes it's silly, and then sometimes we go into deeper shit. I do shit like this all the time.

I'm not as silly as I used to be. You're silly and funny. I mean, you're silly and smart. So you can go one way or the other. You're silly and smart. Like salty and sweet. Savory and sweet. You're two flavors.

It's just a put-together kid, Seton. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. Seton, you guys, our fans got to check out this thing. It was one of my favorites. It was before Rory Scoville was really kind of known. Seton did this web series. He did web series way back, way back,

before people were doing web series. Rory played the heel in it, and Seton plays this protagonist where he's paranoid. There's people watching him, and it turns out that they are, but it's a little funny, too. It's really dope. Thanks, man. What was it called again?

It was called Annoy Charlie Smith. Is it still around? Yeah, it's on YouTube. Annoying Charlie Smith. Annoy Charlie Smith was about a guy who discovers a multimillion dollar organization who sold purposes just to annoy him. So it was really funny, but it was also like a thriller. It's a mix of a few genres. It's a mixed bag.

It looks like the amazing part about it is back then, to shoot it back then too, when technology was still good, but it's not like it was now. And it looks like the amazing part about it is back then to shoot it back then too when technology was still good but it's not like it was now and it looks like you had a crew it looks like you had money looks like you had a budget but you when you talk about it you're like nah man that was me holding the camera that was me edited it that was my girlfriend who played that rory he's a comedian because i didn't know who rory was i didn't know the other people i thought they were like i was like damn you must have like extras and a whole crew what year was that team did you i was in eight nine i went to mont extras and a whole crew. What year was that? 2008 and 9. I went to Montreal.

And after I did Montreal, I noticed everybody had their own thing. So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to do my own thing. So in 2009, I released it. And it was fun to watch Rory and edit him and then put him in my thing and then see him in that movie, I Feel Pretty, with Amy Schumer. And just feel justified. Like, wait a minute.

That wasn't crazy. Is it changed? Rory is one of those guys, you hang out with him, it hits you immediately. Like, oh, this guy's a star. And he has his own unique energy No, Rory's one of those guys, you hang out with him, it's just, it hits you immediately, like, oh, this guy's a star. And he has his own unique energy that, like, is Rory. There's, like, nobody that, you know, and he's got that Bill Murray thing where he says, he takes a line, and it's just a generic line,

and he just puts a person, he soaks it in his personality, and it's funny, and it's a je ne sais quoi. You can't say why. There's no formula to it. It's all his personality. It's his soul or whatever he does. He just wraps it in his personality. It's just only Rory can deliver it like that.

Yeah. He's got that. It's kind of like a Bill Murray thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? So where people find you, what can they do? You got shows coming up. What do you got to promote?

What do I got to promote? Let's see. Let's see. Oh, something fun I'm doing. I did this cool commercial series with Jay Williams and Neil Brennan. We're doing like a parody of SportsCenter. So during March Madness, we did like 40 different commercials. We'll have spots around.

So if you watch March Madness, you're going to see me doing this thing called. That's awesome. So that'll be on the air. Live dates coming up? Live dates. Live dates. Yeah, I'm doing governors of all places in April. And April 3rd and 4th and then

uh yeah gobscomedy.com yeah man but for the most part i'm being talented you know recording a lot of these this week at the cellar stuff oh yeah seatonsmith.com seatonsmith.com check out one of the funniest guys around good friend of mine thanks for coming in man yeah check and check us out historyainas.com christycomedy.com, ChristyComedy.com, GiannisPopsComedy.com, live shows, Gramercy Theater, March 19th and April 29th, Wall Street Theater, Norwalk, Connecticut. Yes. You. Follow us at HistoryAinas on Instagram. You can leave a review on iTunes.

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