History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - Oz Pearlman: The Magic Frisbee | History Hyenas
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We have got a wild episode lined up for you.
I mean, O's Perlman, the mentalist, just came in here and blew our mind and our pants.
And we are skeptical of people like this.
But the way we had our minds blown was I'm like shaking over it.
It's crazy, you know, like hopefully everyone who watches this is of sound mind.
Yeah.
Because if you're not, you're going to really believe the Jews control the weather.
Because it's crazy.
And all this with John Stamos on Facebook.
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and ad-free. Enjoy this episode with O's Perlman, as we call him the Magic Frisbee.
What's up, everybody.
We have a very special guest here today with a new book out called Read Your Mind.
It's not pronounced the way it looks.
No, it's O's Perlman.
You need a little squiggly line up there.
Dude, I had the squiggly line for years.
Nobody cared anyway.
I'm going against Wizard.
of Oz. I've got like 50 years of history against me. Why don't you change your name and just
I should have. I wanted to. My folks wouldn't let me. First generation immigrants, they came here
and they're like, you're Oz because that's how you say it in Hebrew. So I got here. Everyone
calls me Oz. I have to be that kid who's a pain in the ass. Like if my name's Andrea and you
like, I'm Andrea, I'm like, I hate that girl. Right. I had to be that guy and I hated it.
Right. So for the longest time, you call me whatever you want. You call me Bill. I don't care
what you call me. Right. But now what happens is people know my real name and then somebody
you'll meet me and say it wrong, and then they feel awkward about it.
But is this your name on your birth certificate?
Yeah, I didn't make this thing up.
I'd be Chris.
I wouldn't be honest, real talk.
But yeah.
But yeah, like, I want an easy name.
Right.
Yeah, all my kids' easy names.
Easy name.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've answered to Uranus, Yannis.
Yeah.
Now, we have a nickname for you that Chris came up with, and it was called the mentalist
Frisbee.
Are you okay with that one?
Yes.
I never heard it before, but if that's what you want to lean into.
Because we say that with Jewish people, we're very supportive of, I love Jewish
people here but we what happened oh joe de rose is here yeah um but he yeah we'll get him in later
yeah get some roach spread um but we called uh yamaca a frisbee yeah that's a fun thing yeah i'm not
rocking the yamaca i'm not i'm like jewish but uh but yeah i uh yeah call me the mentalist frisbee i love it
we call well we got nicknames for all the people we call the asian people eastern hemis we call jewish people
frisbee's we call greek people diner monkeys we call we call we call that's an accurate to
Yeah, it's very accurate.
A good Tony Island, if you're from Michigan.
Yes, yes, it's what it is.
We call Indians, the laser beams.
Yep, we got a laser beam is strong.
Yes, that's a little, that's a lot for that one.
But we have fun in here.
It's a lot in here.
That's why when we spoke earlier, when you said, you know, you want to help us edit the stuff,
we said, that's why I was specific.
I said, not the content.
Content is out of control.
Content, because we got to just, you know what I mean?
If we want to call you the Magic Jew, we'd just have to be able to do that.
I think Magic Jew is my new official moniker.
Okay, great.
You have a trademarked it, correct?
No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I said I would never edit you. Right. How could I do that? No. No. And we don't edit us. Yeah. Sometimes to our detriment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we got you in here. David Goggins. Yeah, it's my boy. He gave you a big shout out here. Learn to master the most powerful weapon, your mind. Now, you told yourself when we spoke, you said you were like an ethical con artist. I mean, kind of. You wanted to go into history of this whole thing. So 100 years ago, there's no mentalists, right?
This didn't, this whole thing didn't exist.
There were psychics, and there's still psychics today.
But it used to be more of, you know what a magician is.
Everybody knows the concept of a magic trick.
The social contract is you pick a card, I find the card.
You're not, you didn't sell your soul to the devil.
You just slight a hand.
So mentalism, it's this blurry line because it doesn't look like there's a trick going on.
Right.
Most people don't think there's a trick.
And so there's also all these other explanations,
which has to do body language, influencing, misdirection, deception, statistical analysis.
So what I'm doing is constantly a moving target.
If you don't know how I'm doing this,
hopefully you're very entertained,
but it's a form of magic.
It's not like I'm pretending to be supernatural or psychic.
But when you were a kid,
do you feel like you could just use more of your brain than others?
So, yeah, but I don't necessarily think that's what made me a mentalist.
I was just,
I think it's the same as anybody who might be undiagnosed ADHD,
but I was very focused and very mathematical.
I was like a little rain man, legit.
Like I got a perfect SAT math when I was 12.
You're a smart kid.
were just throwing their underwear at me as pretty much what you're hearing as a teenager. Do you think
possibly brain was made in Shanghai? Is that possible? I think China wasn't as strong back then.
So unless AI time traveled, I would maybe Taiwan, not to throw in some geopolitical stuff.
But real talk, I would like, I'd count stairs. When I would be, we go to Little Caesars. I grew up in Michigan.
And every time we get pizzas or at the grocery store, I'm like freaking like one of those savants.
We ring up the stuff. I know before it rings what the tax is, like the 8.25 percent. I know how much it is.
I know how many coins you're going to get back.
It was like straight up Dustin Hoffman.
It didn't even have to practice this.
You were born with this ability.
I liked doing this to entertain myself.
Wow.
That's very interesting.
Would you consider it like manipulation in some way?
It's a hundred.
I mean, it's not in some way.
That's 100% what it is.
Could you help me and Chris to manipulate our wives to convince them that it's okay for us to have gumas?
I don't think I could.
Right.
But mathematically, well, mathematically, what would be the probability you think if I could get you on the phone
my wife right now and just convince her that it's okay that if I have a gumade for the
benefit of our family and my house.
I'm going to say 10% chance I get you
the gumade, 90% chance you're divorced
at the end of the call. Okay. Right.
So it's like, you know what? You miss every shot
you don't take, Chrissy. That's what it is. Yeah.
Now, why get into entertainment?
You're obviously incredible at this.
Every clip I've seen, obviously, we just had
John Stamos on the phone. He said Howard Stern thinks you're
the devil or something like that. Right.
He doesn't believe he believes that you have special. You've got to
see shout out folks to see what I do with Howard Stern
last week. You really, you really should see it.
Yeah. And then I saw the Rogan one.
friends with Rogan and you guessed his
pin number he was visibly uncomfortable
Was it 1776 was not the number?
He said America
I'm afraid if I would have gotten that
That was great because that's my pin number
I'll just tell you straight out
Straight out
Yeah
Yeah yeah so why not like
Yanni's is 6969
That goes back into the Gumata conversation
And he has no chance in me
Like a Greek guy no chance
Italian slight chance
It's what it is
Yeah
Why not like work for the government or like the Massad?
Why get an entertainment?
Some people think I work for the Mossad.
That's like half the comments after the Joe Rogan.
Well, a guy who would work for the Mossad, you'd say exactly what you just said.
Yeah.
And I've never denied it either.
You never said no or yes to it.
So I just leave him blessing, baby.
But my, I'm very curious, like, it's not a power, obviously, but it's a very refined skill that you could use for your benefit.
Is this just a moral choice where you just go, hey, you know what?
I'm not comfortable manipulating people.
for my own gain and in a nefarious way.
I just want to do it for entertainment.
I would say yes.
That's exactly right.
Because like I said,
I'm not here to weigh in
on whether psychics are real
because it's just like not my thing.
Maybe they're psychics.
I've heard people that come up to me
tell me story, how could that have happened?
I'm like, first off, I wasn't with you.
Right.
So I know something very key,
which is memory is malleable.
Right.
You know this is comedians.
Sure.
You walk out of the room,
sometimes the set and the way somebody tells you the joke back,
you're like, I didn't tell the joke like that.
That wasn't the structure at all.
But the way they remember,
it is different than how you remember telling it
because people's brains
remember things that are highlighted.
Think of it as a book. If you highlight certain pages, you remember
the rest of it, you're like gone. If you read this book
and you get three key takeaways, this is one of the best
books of the year.
So, right.
It's a way for us to emphasize other
details in the story and get
her to forget that part. Like, hey, you remember
the rest of the day I called you six times?
I can tell you exactly that. So there's a part, it's not in the book,
but how do you know if someone's lying to you?
Right. I am not an infallible lie
detector, but I can give you a situation where if how, I would say that most people can detect
if someone in their family is lying to them, their kids, right, far more. And your spouse can know
when you're lying to you, far more than when you meet a stranger. Why is that? Because they're
aware of your patterns. So what do I mean by that? When you get polygraphed, if you're going to lie
detector, they don't just strap you in and start asking you questions. They do a bunch of tests to
see, tell the truth. What's your real name? Right. What's your birthday? Are we in New York City? Yes,
yes, yes, yes.
And then they have you lie.
They go, tell me your name is Mickey Mouse.
Are you Mickey Mouse?
You go, yes.
And they see how your body registers a lie.
And they tell the difference physiologically.
So when people tell stories, you can see patterns of how many details do they give.
How quickly or slowly do they speak, right?
All of these things change when someone's lying because their brain is processing what they're
going to say next.
Most people add a lot of extra details when they're lying.
They're like, oh, I'm sick.
this cough and I bullshit you just don't want to come to work right now right right but other people
do the opposite so I don't have a one size fits all approach or I'd be a freaking billionaire I tell you
how to always know when someone's lying but I can watch someone observe them of several times and they go
I know they're lying right now you think you could pass a lie detector test being a mentalist I know
for a fact I could because I've been tested a bunch of times and you just always pass no I don't
always pass but I know how they work right so I know what's involved physiologically and how you can
even if I couldn't pass
I think that I could
have a result that's invalidated
or how would I describe it
it's invalidated if they don't know for sure
When I was in chat GPT
I'm always trying to get out of stuff
I'm always trying to get out of everything
Even when I have things going good of my life
I'm just like how do I get out of it? Literally I was coming to the podcast
Chrissy Dee's like I don't know if we can do it today
I can't do it today you know I like to cancel things last minute
I pick up I move I'm always just trying to wiggle in wiggle out
I got excuses lined up
All day you know I mean
I just want to it's anxiety it's social
I'm just trying to, the kids, I'm always wiggling. And so when I was trying to come up with
certain lies to get out, I don't want to go to dinner with my friends. So I was asking
chat GPT, which is more believable. And it's funny you say that because chat GPT finally told me
after like the third text I sent it. They were like, he was like every, it said every time,
I know you're lying because you're over explaining. Exactly. He said the one that the chat GPT said,
what will be the most believable is one sentence. Boom. I cannot make it. Yeah. No explanation.
and the one you explain, and that's the one I sent.
And a lot of times my boys give me shit.
They're like, we know you're lying.
You got excuses for days.
Like, I just got a puppy.
They're like, another built-in excuse.
And I'm like, all these things are true.
But that specific text, to get out of that dinner, I just said, boy, sorry, can't make it.
Nobody said it.
They gave me thumbs ups.
Yeah.
Where if I would have said, can't make it, jazz, I got the kids recital, the dog shit.
They would all, you know, all making fun of me, all you're a liar.
One of my friends always side texts me, and you get mad.
I'm like, are you gay?
Like, we're guys.
Like, and if you are gay, I am too, just tell me where to meet.
His name's Pat.
You've been waiting.
You've been waiting for that moment.
Yeah, yeah.
He was making the first move in that situation.
Pat's, Pat's pin code is 4-0-0-4,000.
Just ruin the show?
Yeah, that's what is.
That's because it's his cholesterol.
Yeah.
Who was the first guy who, like, started this?
Like, who discovered it.
I don't know who the start is, but there's a guy who's real famous named Theodore Anaman,
Ted, who's in the, like, early 1900s.
who kind of took the tools of psychics,
like the way that a psychic comes in,
and psychics do a lot of what's known as cold reading.
Cold reading is it, I mean,
if you're doing crowd work for an audience,
that's what you're doing.
You're literally doing.
You're look at this guy.
He's in finance, you're this, you're that.
You're like, you guys are from Australia.
You're like, how else do you know that?
Because you've literally been in front of audiences
hundreds, if not thousands of times.
Boom, seller, stand.
Six sets a night.
I know your world.
And suddenly you can tell who people are.
It's not a magic trick
just because you've seen so many other people like them.
Right.
Right.
Right? And so when you calibrate like that, and you can see, what's the wedding ring like?
How's the body lines between you and the person next to him? You know this guy hasn't proposed yet.
They've been together seven years. You're about to lay into this guy.
Right. His name's Krista Stephanie.
That's true. Yeah. Nailed it. Yeah.
You nailed you.
Yeah. Like, is this a therapy session? Yeah. Yeah. My girl called you.
You can notice things about people. And also, when you go fishing, right, fly fishing, you feel when you got a bite. You feel when you got a bite.
So a psychic always accentuates the hits
and completely forgets about the misses.
They might throw out three names.
Be like, I can't tell if this is a Michael or a Maria
or a Matthew, Matthew, because you see them light up.
And also the person with you in a psychic session
wants you to talk to.
They're not there to pay you $100 to like get it all wrong,
most people.
So they're there with a vested interest
in you doing this correctly.
So this guy took those tools
and started to combine the world of magic
with the world of science,
psychics and create this overlay of like, I'm not a psychic, but I can act like a psychic and I can
start to read you in a way that sounds like, how do you know these things about me? Got it. Are you,
there's also a big group of people that think that like magic. Yep. And these, you know, was a big
thing in the ancient world. And then we just got away with it. We just did away with it. And now, like,
Christians? Yeah. But do you believe in any of that? Like, this was very prevalent a thousand years ago. And
now we just don't believe in it anymore and only select few like you?
There's magic from thousands of years ago.
Like there's a trick called the Cups and Balls that predates most religions.
Oh, that's New York.
Yeah.
Shell game.
That's it defended down from, you know, from the Greeks, baby.
Yeah.
Like most things.
Everything.
That's what it is.
So magic has been around since forever because people love to be fooled.
People like to laugh.
It's like a few of the archetypes.
We like ever since I bet that, you know, since we were cavemen, laugh, you know, eat, screw, shit.
And like, be amazed.
Those are core tenets of, like, what we are to be people.
Now, how wild when you do these for black people, do they go wild?
I don't see color.
I don't know talking about you.
I know, I'm kidding.
Yeah, they go nuts.
Nobody loves magic.
And it's a compliment.
We're not even, you know, it's just black people.
Like, they like to run out of the room.
Love.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't get the same, you know, white females usually, yes.
I like the black response better.
Yes.
And whatever tricks we do in here today, we will react like black people.
I'm going to do that again, and even if no tricks go well,
we use the audience theater.
I said, edit later, these guys just freaking out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This little white motherfucker crazy.
Crazy.
So basically you're saying, they say don't judge a book by its cover,
but you're basically saying we all judge a book by its cover.
I think so.
We do crowdwork.
That's exactly what we're doing.
And sometimes I will judge a conversation just based on a haircut.
Yeah.
If you got purple hair, I know it's going to be a long day of,
you know what's interesting too about the i you know just speak specifically with you know i've been doing
comedy now 15 years the it doesn't it's not a hundred percent of the time but i would say in the
beginning when i first started if i would like i would always do a thing like i'd guess somebody's
name yeah and then they say you know woman would be like my joke would be like her name i'd be like
oh uh patty right your name's patty and she'd be like no it's barbara like that's the same
thing as patty and that would always get like a big laugh but i've noticed more like it actually is a
thing more times now i would guess like a year ago i'd say your name's patty right and she'd be like
how'd you know that so so that joke that i would have built in of like oh but when she would say
it's actually barb and i big same thing i'm guessing the name yeah more percentage the right the first
time which actually kills your joke he didn't have a tag on it well then i didn't get right
then i just go i'm o's perlman there you go and then they go who the hell's o's perlman yeah yeah
is there anything you could tell about us just from reading patterns so far are we gay
Yeah, like, do you know?
Premature ejaculator.
That's true.
I mean, look at his sweatpants.
Yeah.
Yeah, can you, are there things about us?
Like, can you tell, like, oh, that guy's got anxiety.
That guy's hiding something.
That guy's depressed.
I don't really think it's a deep dive into your mental psyche.
But let's say, let's say for a great example.
I walked in here and we were coming in hot, right?
Patrick's like, we got to get in.
We're shooting the podcast.
And I asked you a question.
I want to make sure they know.
Because people always tell me, oh, it's all rigged.
It's all set up.
I met Rogan a minute before I walked in.
I said you, did you play sports.
as a kid. Is that right? I want to make sure I said that. And you told me, yes. So there's been
some history here. How many sports did you play? You're asking me? Yeah. Two. Two. What are the two?
Basketball and baseball. Which one do you play longer? Basketball. Okay. So typically, I find that some of
your best, I don't want to call it relationships form in sports. Not always, but if you were a big
sports guy, in those years, you're around those kids. There's history. You know what I'm saying?
Sure, especially if you play football at Penn State. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely.
Deep on.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like, like, yeah.
Deep.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's what it is.
RIP, Jopa.
I'm kidding.
It's not funny.
This isn't funny.
But it was funny.
Okay, not really.
I get it.
So you leaned in more on the,
like I said both,
and you said basketball before baseball.
So again, this is telling
where he might have played baseball's whole life,
but then he said it,
but he said basketball first in the order with it,
which he answered.
Sure.
Which, again, you're saying,
how do you pick it up?
He gave the answer right there.
So you go back to basketball.
And I,
like to always visualize this how many kids that you played basketball with if i just had you take
right down a list right now how many kids you think you'd come up with give me a guess of names
right off the jump like i was a swimmer bam bam bam i could tell like seven or eight kids i swim
four or five four or five so out of that list of four or five the visualization is one kid
walks in the door right now you go you kidding me right now what do you've been up to bro like you
have not thought of this person right before me asking you to think of him in years is that a fair
assessment? That's a fair assessment. If you guess this, I'm going to react like a black person.
Okay, good. This is not possible for him. I brought a marker. Yeah. And so could I have done
research on you? So the first question is... By the way, I just want to say he pulled that marker
and that clipboard out of the back of his pants. Out of the, yeah, straight in there. Yeah, so
don't even ask. There is no way that you can know. You sure. I am 100% by... I knew I'd be on this
so what if? Could I have Googled? Is there any way we could have known this? No. And then you even
just said that off the top of your head, you came up with four or five.
people, right? Just that moment. Just that moment. And you could have picked any of those
or any of those people. That's right. So I want you in your mind, not with your fingers,
to count how many letters are in this kid's first name. And when you're done, just say,
I got it. Five. Oh, so it's better if you don't tell me the number. It was more of like I got it.
But that's totally fine. Sorry. Sorry. These guys just doesn't listen. He did this twice outside.
But even with the amount of letters, he's not going to get it.
Mind reading show and he just tells me the thing
All right, all right, five letters is fine
Don't worry. Five letters
Don't say it
But I don't know
Five letters to pick from
Pick one
Don't say it out loud
Just in your mind
Think of one of the five letters
You got one?
Something interesting
I don't know
Whatever you look at get one
You got one?
I think Yanni
Just like almost like shooting a bull's eye
Bam did you think of the letter in the middle
Yeah
I thought so you didn't even look
No you say that but a lot of time
you go look this way.
G, are you thinking of a G?
No.
I got to go with this.
There's a G in his name?
Yes.
It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, close your eyes.
All right, for those who are listening, keep your eyes close, Yonnie, cover your eyes, cover your eyes.
Yeah.
I wrote it down, you saw Chris, is that correct?
And I had to look twice at that and make sure that it wasn't what I thought.
Yeah.
So I've written this, it's not changing.
Open your eyes.
Open your eyes.
Who, when you rewound back, basketball, back in the day, thought of anybody, what's his kid's name?
His name's Nigel.
Nigel.
Get the fuck out of here, dog.
What it is.
Get the fuck out of here, dog.
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
How's that even fucking possible?
Because you said you play basketball, it's a black kid's name.
That's a British name, bro.
Dude, it's a British name.
How the fuck did you do that?
There's no fucking possible way that he could have known that.
There's no fucking possible way.
It's not possible.
He just did it.
How's that even fucking possible?
Could we have looked this up somewhere online about you?
No, there's no way you could know.
How old were you? How old were you first met Nigel?
Give me a guess. How old were you?
Probably, what, seven, eight?
And how many years you play basketball together?
Probably three?
So you came up together?
No, we were friends.
Do you know him too, Jesse, Justin?
Wow.
Oh, so he's going to, you know what?
I would have said, oh, maybe he's on Facebook.
Maybe there's some legacy data.
How about this?
How about this?
There's four many of years.
There's no legacy data.
I haven't spoken to him in a while.
He's not really on social media.
There's no way you could have known.
Let's imagine.
That's fucking nuts.
It's what it is.
You and Nigel are sitting down, heart to heart.
10-11 years old.
You're playing basketball.
And you're dreaming.
You go, oh, my God.
Who was your guy?
Was it Jordan?
Who was your guy?
Who was like the...
Okay, so Dominic Wilkins was my...
Okay.
So let's say you're talking basketball.
Yeah.
And the conversation shifts.
Yeah.
You're sitting there with Nigel.
And you go,
Yo, man, who's the hottest girl in class?
And everybody at your school, was there, like, in eighth grade,
was there the hottest girl?
Was it very distinct?
I feel like there's a few.
Yeah.
We're the hottest guy.
You told me you're gay, but you haven't come out yet.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, there was the hottest girl.
Right, so there's always the hottest girl.
So imagine this.
See, he's not, he's changed.
He didn't really know who the hottest girl is.
Imagine, you say to Nigel, you go,
yo, you ever kissed a girl?
And Nigel's like, in a British accent, of course I have.
No, no.
And you say, yeah.
And you whisper into Nigel's ear, you go,
yo, do you know this girl?
And he goes, I know this girl.
And I want you to imagine yourself telling him
the first girl you ever kissed.
Okay.
Watch.
He went like this.
I was thinking to myself, was it Jenny?
Gina is the first girl you ever kissed, isn't it?
I don't get this, dude.
It's wild.
I don't get it, dude.
I don't understand how wild it is
Yeah
Like that doesn't make sense
Dude yeah
That's not it's important
But my question for you
That doesn't make sense
I believe it because I could see
But just be honest
Is Gina a guy's name
Gina it is
It is because then it's a girl
You first kiss you ever was a girl
You told me he was a guy
Was it Gino
Gino
What was Gino
A little wild though
That is beyond wild
Yeah
What is your first memory
How old are your first memory
Most people are anywhere
They start at like three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine
Your first memory tells what it was.
Your first memory is a kid, how old were you?
I could say out loud, say the memory?
The first memory you ever remember your whole life.
So tell the story.
Well, how old were you?
I was three.
And tell us that memory.
Have you ever mentioned this before in the podcast?
I might have, but I don't think, I don't know.
I was remember being relatively, like I had a cold on the couch.
I was three.
My mom went to go get me chicken soup in the kitchen.
We had the TV on and I saw for the first time of my life,
Dolly Parden.
Yeah.
And it's the first time everyone peeing.
Wow.
I mean, I didn't have, you know, it didn't work yet my penis,
but I remember feeling like, like, this woman is so hot,
and I like her boobs.
Wow.
I remember Dolly Part and liking at three years old.
Yeah, I don't, yeah, I'm in the program now for that.
Yeah.
I'm in the program.
It goes hard in the pain.
Three years old, dolly part.
Let's do this.
Let's keep going through your life, and that's a core memory.
Yes.
History hyenas.
Let's do some of your history.
Sure.
Don't stop me.
Try not to react.
Try not to do stuff that's going to give away.
Watch him.
So try not to give stuff away right now.
But we're going to try to go timestamps
and you're going to focus on each one of these years
as we go and try to come up with memories.
Don't say anything.
That was three.
Don't say anything.
I'm going to keep going slow.
Four years old.
Five years old.
Six years old.
Seven years old.
Eight.
Nine.
Ten.
Eleven.
So at each one of those steps,
he was trying to think of something.
At ten, he kind of blinked.
He was a little confused.
How many?
I think I saw.
something, but I'm curious, when I said eight years old, did a memory come to your mind or not so
much? Not so much. I think the memory you were most focused on was when you were five years old,
wasn't it? Um, uh, uh, yeah, yeah. Maybe you're not sure of the age. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I was around then. I think I got it.
I think
close your eyes
I think it's like a parallel story
where the cameras the cameras over here
is it both those shooting good good good this one
okay open your eyes
as you were making this up as we went along
and you thought of I'm four
I'm five I'm six
and I guessed five it might have been five six
I don't know but it was just in that window
of where you were like very you were trying to
you like ah you saw in your eyes like an awareness
what was the story that came to mind
when I said to focus on one story
not your three year old memory
what are you got what was it when you were five
tell me a little bit about
I thought of the very first time
I felt like oh I like a girl her name was
tell the whole thing her name and everything
yeah I thought her name was Jenny
Puerto Rican girl that I just love
Puerto Rico yeah it's just what it is
Jenny
yeah that's crazy
what the fuck yeah that's wild
cause you're not on the first
catching every criminal.
Yeah, because why weren't you able
to find the hostages?
Because can you do a remote viewing?
What's my wife doing right?
Yeah.
I mean, how, yeah, I liked a girl.
I remember, you know, even now,
like my wife's Puerto Rican and Jasmine,
she, it started with Jenny
because I always, like, loved her.
And, you know, I remember feeling like,
oh, this girl's so beautiful
running home and telling my mom.
And, you know, she never ever looked at me
and she always thought it was a nerd.
But did she miss out or did she miss out?
Come on.
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Yes, so I don't know.
So it's just he just, I don't know.
Go ahead.
Sorcery.
Deck of cards, deck of cards.
Yeah.
Open it.
Open it.
Look at them.
be shuffled, but you shuffle them, gentlemen.
Why are these stuck together?
Don't ask.
You know, it's a shame the Jews don't proselytize,
because if they did, you could convert a lot of people.
You could convert me. I really, yeah, yeah.
You're not that good with money, so you should come to our team.
Yeah, I need your help.
So shuffle them up?
Yeah, look at them, though.
Make sure these are legit.
Okay.
Now, normally right now, you'd be thinking a card trick.
Card trick means I'm going to do some sleight of hand.
I'm not touching anything, right?
You see this?
I'm never touching anything.
You're touching my foot, but that's it.
That's it.
That's him.
That's Yani.
He's got soft toes
He does
That's his thing
Okay
On top of the table though
You can't be doing now
We can't see what you're doing
Shuffle him up
Sorry shuffle up
But Jesus
This guy's dropping left and right
Or be covering them
Whatever you want
I don't care
As long as it doesn't matter
Okay
Okay
Okay
Shove them turn them down
Face down
And then
Here's what you should do
You're ready
Can I
I'm just gonna move the mic
So you have space
And I want you each
okay to at the same time you're going to lift off kind of somewhere near the middle lift off a piece
about an inch and I want you to turn it halfway like sideways like 90 degree angle put it back on top
any way you want that feels good that feels good square them up and turn the other half at a funny angle
and mark it like a 90 degree angle and put that piece on top you feel me yeah we'll feel you dog so
like that right yeah yeah yeah beautiful square it up a little bit okay I don't care I don't care I don't
Whatever.
Okay.
All right, gentlemen, question for you.
Is that absolutely fair?
Sure.
Hear me out.
Think about the craziness of this.
You shuffled the cards.
You cut anywhere you wanted.
But think about how crazy this is.
That you two even know each other.
What are the odds when you go back history that you'd even be born, right?
Your parents had to meet.
Were you planned?
I believe so.
Maybe your dad's pull-out game was weak.
Who knows?
100%.
But the fact that you were ever born, from the day you were born.
Maybe he had money on it.
Everything that brought you together until this day that you two are now a team working together is insane, right?
Yeah.
Now, listen, I don't want to touch anything.
Watch this.
You each cut anywhere you wanted.
What I want you to do is slowly.
I want you to see how crazy the synchronicity is.
Pick up the top half.
Yep, yeah.
Lift it up.
Okay.
And I want you look at this.
Turn and show each other the card you cut to.
Lift it up and turn it over so we can see what was your, what was yours.
Look at that and look at yours.
Look at show each other.
Hold on
A to Spades, A to Spades
You're showing the camera this
Gentlemen, watch
Not just that one
Hand me that card
Just the eight?
Yeah, just the eight
And then I want you each to look at the next card
Look, show each other
Your next card
Insanity, right?
It's nuts
And wait, right?
Who do you work for?
Hold on
And wait, it's gonna be the next one too
Hand me the two
And me the two
And check this out
Look at each other
So you got the next card
Oh, you got a four?
Oh, that's, wait.
Yeah, it's, see?
No, no, no, no. Maybe, hand me that one.
Hand me that one.
Yeah, I bet the next one.
Here, hand me that one.
In my hand, in my hand.
And yours, that was it.
Show each other.
You got the next card.
Is the same for two?
All right, give me that one.
Yeah.
Okay.
In my hand, face up, face up.
Is that last one?
I think I got back to it.
Is that one the same?
No, different.
I hand it to me.
He's up to something.
you cut anywhere put the cards down
you cut anywhere you shuffled anywhere right
yeah yeah and this was yours that you did
here's the crazy part from the day you were born until today something brought you together
right and yon cut these some crazy shit now and i don't know if you see this but you see
what's on here it says eight that's my birthday
what the fuck out here that's crazy oh you get out 84 today get out of this room and
eight 24 76 you're in all fuck
Get out of here.
That's wild.
Birthday.
Get the fuck out of here.
How?
Yo, man, how?
Yo, what would they do in Lebanon to him?
Would he get stoned to death for that?
What would they do?
Yo.
You have to leave here, sir.
That's wild.
That, how?
How?
That's nuts.
How did you do that?
That's my birthday, Cuds.
He somehow manipulated us to hand him cards that were our birth.
Cudds, you're a lot older than me.
Yeah.
wow how did you do that you can't tell it now you can only do a trick like that with guys
because the women would lie about their birthdays that's true they would say no you're wrong
born in 87 yeah you can 92 92 yeah that's a good that's wild never give away a woman's age
yo how sick is that i don't did you i never did i didn't think that he ever got it wrong to
begin with i i agree with you there's up to something but i could never think it was the first one
i was like ah he fucked up and then i saw it
in his face and I was like, he's up to something.
Yeah.
Because you know they're sneaky.
And I mean mentalists.
Yeah, mentalists.
I mean when I took the Frisbee and I threw.
And I caught in my teeth.
I had a laser beam right on your forehead too.
So you could really like, you could do things with this.
You can really do things.
Now, I obviously know you won't tell us how you did.
Of course that.
But does it all at the end of the day come back to math and probability, all of these
these stuff.
No, I mean, there's some of it, but now I wouldn't call it.
I think that the key is being able to read people in a certain way, the same way that you do as a comedian.
I watch comedians far more than mentalists.
I don't even like mentalists.
I don't even like mentalists. I'm a big comedy fan.
Really?
I used to go to the cellar.
This is before the cellar had like 27 locations.
Yeah.
Literally, just the main room downstairs, we used to go there two or three times a week.
Right, and you were doing it for fun and research.
I didn't even know at the time I was doing it for research, but it's like my love is stand-up comedy.
So I was doing it for just, I love watching it.
I love watching.
And over time, I kind of process what's timing.
When do you pause?
What shows somebody who's great?
How do you deal with a heckler effectively?
Right.
If you're punching down versus punching up,
how do you get the crowd on your side?
Because you've always seen to be like,
go over the top on a heckler,
and then the crowd turns against you.
Yonnas just punches them,
even if they're a woman.
Even, yeah.
Look up the story from Bar 4 from 10 years ago.
Yeah.
Wow.
He's uncancelable, this man.
He really is.
Wow.
I mean, that, that, I don't know,
because, you know, the only other experience
I had, I know you guys do different things, but I did
something with David Blaine one. Sure. And what he did
was amazing, but it wasn't
that. What did he do?
He did, it was really more like
writing numbers on
the car, on a card, and then
I had that card in my pocket, and he was able to
produce the card, like, with the, how I wrote it.
It was, it was, I forgot like how it got there,
but I remember being blown away, but that's,
I don't know, your birthday in
cards is kind of nuts. That's kind of,
I mean. Because Enanis,
as the Greeks do, he always takes a year off.
So on Wikipedia, that's not even his real birthday.
Yeah, yeah.
He always take a year back.
Deep cuts.
Deep cuts.
He's 50, but he's, you know, 49.
Yeah, it's more of a Socrates play, if you know what I'm saying.
So you got it for, you got a birth certificate.
He's a philosopher.
Yeah.
So that's, so, are you ever tempted to do?
You don't even know where I'm hiding a gallon of Tatsiki on my body right now.
That's my fault.
Now, let me ask you this.
Can you do things?
These are mind-blown things, but like, could you make Nick's hair grow back?
Nick, take off your hat?
See that?
See that? Could you get that back for us?
I can make it grow mostly out of his ears
and back.
Yeah, no. Nick, was this mind
blowing to you? Yeah. And your people
call this Santaria, right? Yeah,
I just don't, to be
completely honest with you, I don't know
how it's possible
that he guessed the name
Nigel. I don't even know how that's
possible. Yeah, I'm telling you I'm being honest with
the fans, like we're watching now.
There's no way
that I could see.
There's just no way
We didn't interact
And you didn't even do your birthday
You did his birthday
Yes
We did each other's birthday
That's what I'm saying
Because for me
Do you guys pee together
When you go in the bathroom
Do you hold each other?
Yeah
Oh I don't know
How you do it
You got anything else?
That's it for me
I gotta leave you wanting more
I know
Showbiz
Do you have live shows
That you do as well
I have a show coming up
December 21st
I don't know when this is dropping
No we're dropping this
In two days
Medford Massachusetts
It's the Chevalier Theater.
I love that theater.
Yeah, got a few seats left.
I don't know if there's any tickets left or not.
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Yeah.
You're the Nate Bargazzi of, I am the Nate Bargotsie of mentalists.
I would agree with that statement.
Yes.
I would say that Jim Gaffigan, because we both have five kids.
I know, dude, what?
So, just, I know you got to get out of here, but like five kids.
So do you do magic with the kid?
I'm sorry, mentalism stuff with the kids?
No, magic.
Like, my daughter is, they've seen me.
I remember runs on before the Super Bowl,
biggest appearance ever in my life.
And at the end of the thing, I'm like, you know,
like the, you know, the, you know when the stress comes
off you have something huge that happened? Sure. Like the
the dump of like oh my god
the relief it went well. I'm happy it's over. Yeah I'm
FaceTiming my kids and like dude just don't
talk so much just do the candy trick because I have a
trick at their school where I just make candy
appear like I light this thing bowl on fire
and then just blow it out and it's full of candy
like dude stop talking so much yeah do the
candy trick yeah as if they were giving
me the right notes right for me to take it
to the next level. Oh that's gonna be
I mean I know I know you're obviously
very successful but that's got to be an annoying
part of being you it's like people who know you
probably come up and want you to do a trick for that.
Shockingly, not as much as you would think.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Your wife is completely sick of it.
Just like our wives are sick of our comedy.
She was sick of it day one.
Day one.
I did a trick.
This used to be my move.
This is my move at the bar.
Forget like guessing stuff.
I had a move where it, because loud bars, I can't be like, look at me.
Think of the letter.
G.
Somebody would have a drink and it's usually a mixed drink.
They'd have a straw in it.
And I would say to them, I go, do me a favor.
Just grab your straw and get their tin.
Like what?
And I'm like, just twirl your straw once around the glass and let go.
and it would just move one more time.
Like when you let go,
the inertia goes once more.
Like, you see how you just did that
when you let go, it kept moving?
And they're like, yeah.
And I'm like, watch this.
And I would just look at it.
And I'd go like this with my finger
and the straw would move around one more time.
And then I'd snap and it would shoot out of the drink.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Panny dropper.
That was my move.
Yeah.
I did that for my wife the first time I met her.
She's like, go get me another straw.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
Cryptonite.
She's immune to my powers.
And being just, you know,
a Jewish man.
She's Jewish, too.
is going to step on my balls, this woman's going to make my life really hard, I want to marry her.
Fisclative, frugal, too. She's like, I need another straw. Yeah, I like me right now. Not a big
spender. You married the right one. I did. Are you done after five kids? Yeah, I think we're
celibate is what she's discussed. It's like, like, like, a Puerto Rican woman. I'm not even
allowed to touch her at this point. Right. Right. I think she thinks I can transfer sperm through my
hands through her clothes. So yeah, we're, uh, she's closed up shop officially. Even though I have one more
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Yeah. Now, is the book a good read just for people to, obviously, it's not going to make your meddless, but it's good for your mind. Or if you're insane ADHD, like me, I'm the audiobook guy. I, it's my voice. So I tell all of it while reading it. So I actually think the audiobook is a great value because I'm going to capture it. If you like hearing me perform, you're like hearing, this book will not teach you one mentalist trick. And it's your voice doing the audio book. That's great. So now when I'm driving home, I'll know I'll be hard. Yes. So Doug says like, learn to master the powerful weapon. So is it good to read?
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This book is, here's what this book is. I want to explain to you.
It's all the lessons I've learned throughout my 30 years of doing this is a career,
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It's skills and habits for success.
It's how to walk into a room
and instantly captivate everybody
and become the most memorable person when you leave.
All of us have a level of confidence
from being around people
that 95% of the population doesn't have.
You take it for granted.
You just did it from so many reps.
How can you give someone else confidence fast?
Instead of taking 20 years,
I want it to take two months
and you'd walk into a room
and feel like you own that room, right?
And so many people are fearful of rejection.
I have a chapter which sounds so silly on how to take notes.
Taking notes has been the secret thing of success in my life.
When I walk in, I meet everybody.
I know his name.
I know his name.
I know all your names.
We know stuff about you already.
When I meet you again, it's like a magic power that I go, oh my God, Chris, how you doing?
And I'll remember everything we talked about.
I don't remember it.
I just wrote it down.
And I studied it before I met you.
And so that allows you to make people feel seen, heard, understood.
None of this is rocket science.
It's things that are practical, takeaway and advice that you'll start.
doing today, and if things work out well, you will still be doing these things 10 years from
now and say, wow, I have achieved a level of success in your personal life and your financial
life. Like, how do you know when to ask your boss for a raise if you work in corporate
America? Right. Right. How do you, you deserve it? You've been working your butt off the last
six months, 12 months, 18 months. You're trying to build the case effectively of why I'm of value
to this company. When do you approach them? I'm going to tell you exactly when do you approach
that person to have the highest chance of success. Is that mentalism mindering? No. It's
core skills in life, but what do I do for a living? I read people all the time and how they
behave and try to influence them. So let me give you some of those tactics and skills to use
in your life. I'm going to buy it on the way. I want to realize. Well, I'm going to listen to it. Yeah.
Yeah. Um, I got a question for you, uh, that I'm very curious about it. Have you ever,
I'm sure you have. So tell me about it and then answer if you have. Have you met people who you can
see they kind of have the skill too, but you know what they're doing? And you're like, like a mentalist,
that's like a lower tier mentalist? Like someone, no.
someone, yeah, someone manipulating you,
not even a mentalist,
but someone who's really good
manipulation, reading, patterns, sales.
Sales.
And yeah, and you're just kind of
one step ahead of them.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, that's like when somebody
tries to negotiate tactics with you,
right?
They do negotiation tactics.
And you go, ah,
you can tell the power dynamic.
Right.
Like, a big part of this book
is, I don't want to sell too much,
is when I was 14,
my first gig was I'd go to restaurants.
I walked to a restaurant,
they have a driver's license,
sweet talked my way
into being a strolling magician.
I went table to table
and would mingle and do tricks
for people who didn't want me there.
And that's like the school of hard knocks, man.
That's the open mic for you.
That's for me.
And I'm even worse because I'm like 14
and it's like, who is this kid?
And even people went to a comedy club.
For this, people are having dinner.
They got babysitters.
They're like, who the hell are you?
Why?
So I learned right from there
how to overcome rejection,
which is the superpower of every entrepreneur
you've ever seen.
Everyone has gotten rejected.
Comedians too.
That's one of the big things for us.
It is.
It's the people that fall.
You've probably met people that are so damn funny and they went back to a day job.
You're like, what happened to that guy?
So damn funny.
He couldn't stick with it.
He couldn't pass, pass through the five years, the 10 years to become funny and to also get over the rejection.
Because the beginning weeds out.
It should weed out more people.
God help me.
I've seen some of you that like, why don't they have less of a thick skin?
With the internet and TikTok.
Yes.
Yeah, less people.
So I think that that's one of those skills where to answer your question, I like to watch the people that have natural charisma and see was it natural.
it's like I had friends in college
I had great game
they like pick up girls
you're like how
this guy's not even
that good looking
what the hell
how is a six with a nine
how's this happening
so I'd watch and observe
and see like
what was it about them
that they did
how did they approach somebody
I learned when I was 14 years old
that if I walk up to you
eye to eye two eyes
walk up to you like this
it's intimidating
right you know why
because when it's the same
with animals
if you look certain animals
in the eye directly
they freeze and they attack
right
you need to have a certain way
you look at them
One eye is less anxiety producing.
So if I walk up to your table at an angle
and immediately set a time constraint,
I go, I only have one minute,
but I've got to tell you about something very exciting.
Yeah.
He's only here for one minute, right?
It's not like, when's this guy going to go away?
He's also one foot in, one foot out.
I walked up to you like this,
like I'm about to leave.
Those little tactics,
you don't realize it,
but they make you comfortable in a moment.
Yeah.
And it's the same as when you go on stage.
Sometimes you're loud,
but sometimes what if you get quiet?
Yeah.
the audience draws in and gets quiet with you.
Those are tactics that you've learned over years
that people can be told right now and start using today.
Yeah, I always say like, you know, when people, like my daughter is 10,
my oldest one is 10, and she's always saying, like she asked me the other day,
just randomly, she was like, oh, dad, how do I be funny?
Teach me how to be funny.
And I said, you know what, honey, I don't know that I'm necessarily funny.
I think the thing that I have is what I've always...
He's not funny.
Can you agree to that?
Exactly. How many of you've seen speciallywashi?
Seriously, it sucks.
I've said likeability and charisma.
are the things that will take you further
in any career. If you're likable and charismatic
and I said, I was kidding, Chris, you're funny.
No, no, no, but even I feel this about myself.
Like, I'll see some of my peers
who are much, much, much better joke writers
than me. Like, not, I can't even possibly
shout out to Sam Rill.
Seriously, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to do the roast
to the Jersey Shore last week, and Sam was one of the texts
I sent out because he's such an unbelievable joke writer.
But I was like, you know,
you realize like some, not him, Sam's likable
as well, but other peers of mine are like,
they're so good at writing jokes but they don't have much likeability or charisma and then they go fall
flat with the crowd. It's like you've got to have it all in a career, you know, outside of comedy,
just public speaking. It's like even our leaders, like you can, you know, take the two opposite
extremes, Trump and Mom Donnie, right? They're both likable. Right. They're fan base. You may not like
them, but it's like they have such likeability in charisma. Yeah. Even though they differ completely
politically and people hate them on either spectrum for whatever reason, but it's like a billion,
you're not getting, you're basically not getting voted in by the people.
politics, comedians, mentalists, unless you have likeability and charisma.
It's the number one most important thing.
I don't even know if I'd say likeability because like people or hate them, you have to
connect on an emotional level.
Right.
So it's like some people, you might not like them, but you can't, you can't look away.
Right.
And so connecting on an emotional level is very different than somebody you don't feel
invested in.
It's kind of a sports team.
Once you're invested, you feel with that team.
Yes.
You don't know them just because they're wearing next jersey.
You're in next year.
What else does that matter?
But you feel some connection on an emotional level.
And that's been the secret to my success.
And that's what I talk about here, which is mentalism didn't really pop in this country for a very long time.
In fact, if you could tell me how many other mentalists can you name?
I don't know.
You can.
Maybe you can't.
There's an Australian guy where there's like some Australian guy who was a mentalist.
Oh, that was the TV show, the mentalist.
Yeah, yeah.
He was also.
He solved crime and he was fictional.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris.
Yes.
Yes.
That's that guy.
The British guy.
Darren Brown.
Phenomenal.
Yeah.
He, that's like, he is the guy there.
He is A-List celebrity there.
He's been known there forever.
Smaller Island, but just connected on an emotional level with the crowd.
And so I'm saying, you have to captivate people.
You have to create that spectacle.
David Blaine has done it exceptionally well.
I was going to say David Blaine's the mentally.
Well, he's more magic and endurance stunts.
Right.
He does a little bit of this, but it's not like, like I don't really do magic.
Even here when you did this, this isn't a card trick.
I didn't find your card.
I didn't even do anything with the cards.
You were cutting.
You were in charge of it.
everything was you. And so that's kind of
the things that connect with you on an emotional level.
Yeah. Now, last question for you go, of course, I have to ask
you, are aliens coming? Do you believe
in them? Are you one of them?
So I watched this movie, Age of Disclosure.
We watched it too. And it was a whole nothing burger
at the end, unfortunately. It felt so good.
But it's like, I've seen
it. I've seen it. Show me something.
No, I can't show you anything, but trust me.
It's like, my dick is 12 inches long
if you measure from 8 inches inside my butthole.
Right, right. Where's the proof?
12 inches long? You would do your dick right now.
You're a tiny guy.
You're a squeak.
So that old movie, again, it's very circumstantially, very convincing.
But, like, show me the 4K HD, okay?
I don't need to see this and this, like, on a screen that's like this big that looks
like it's from 1982, a TV that I had.
Sure.
So, again, I'm sure.
Do you believe it?
Do you believe that in alien?
Do you think that there's life on other planets?
Do you think the UAPs have been here?
You think they're telling the truth?
I think the most credible scenario ever played out was by
for Mellon, and Joe Rogan, where when he explained exactly what you would do, given the timelines
of the universe, is that if you were an alien civilization, which without a question there has been,
it's been billions of years, it's ridiculous, so many planets, there's, of course there are.
Like, it's, I think the opposite is an absurd statement for anyone to think we're alone in the
universe is literally almost stupidity.
Right.
But are we alone now?
That's, you're missing it.
It's about time.
In 14 billion years, there could have been literally, if there was every million years,
There was an alien species that still do the math on that.
That still means there was like 15,000 species that have overlapped and still been.
And that a million years is so much longer than we've been around.
I think that if they had sent craft to come in here, they would have put drones that come out of the ocean
because the ocean on the bottom is the most stable surface on the whole planet.
Think about it.
There's no ice ages.
There's no nothing.
That's the place to put them.
And then they come up every now and again.
They check shit out.
They probably have drones or artificial like intelligence inside.
They look at things.
They come back down.
They report back.
I think that's very plausible.
Right.
But why has there been no contact?
Why is it always like a drunk guy with a shitty iPhone?
Does it?
Like, why is nothing clear?
I want to see you guess one of these aliens' birthdays with cards.
I'm going to guess an alien's pincode, and that's what I'm really going viral.
All right?
Good to have you, man.
Oh, it's Perlman, baby.
I'm going to go read it.
And now we're friends, right?
I think so.
Come to the comedy seller and watch us.
I can't get in anymore.
I got you, dude.
Who's got me?
I always, I used to know a guy at the front and I'd know him, but I don't want to
like power playing be like do you know why outside Steve
the guy that always has a bugs bunny carrot
yeah yeah that he's still there but you
you you text me cuss
yeah I'm like we're in the
I'm like come on buddy
fellow Jews like nothing there's no love at the
no yeah yeah no I used to know
I'm a Catholic we love you all the time yeah all right
all right I'll do it that was awesome
maybe one day I'll get past at the cellar
that will be no God no
there's too many people doing comedy
stick to your goddamn
mentalism you piece of shit
don't steal my job
All right, guys, just got our minds blown by Ols Perlman.
Hope you enjoyed the episode.
As always, at the end of every episode, we read out the names of the newest members of the
matriarchy who went to patreon.com slash history hyenas and join the fun.
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We now are even doing even more content over there.
We've added a little segment we like to call under the covers where we tell you our deepest dark
of secrets and we lay on a bean bag touching elbows snowstorm yeah so welcome to the matriarchy uh we got
luke ryaner nick gerson then we got day shift stripper keep your hips and nips away from my
chips and dip i'm just trying to eat lunch okay then we got tennie too uh terry two nuts terry two
nuts how you doing chicken finger like that yeah let me get it let me get a little barbecue sauce with
that jonathan roland then we got trinobal monkey living in the mitten it's funny because we were
talking about Srinobo yesterday.
Kids reading our mind. I mean, it's O.
It's O. Perman. It's O. Perlman.
Mom Donnie wears his towel up top like a frisbee.
Okay. Dr. Egs. K. J. J.J. J.J. J.K. Joe Rogan can stay.
Wees on she ain't.
Dregsler.
David Nava. Janus Pappas's Papa came in his mama.
Okay. Okay. It's just a fact. It's illogical. Yeah, good wordplay.
Mike P.
Sloppy McFloppy.
Franks and Dean's D-E-I hireer was Franks and Beans, baby.
Bill Clinton tapped it on Trump's tongue.
Yeah, because that was, yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's what they say, right?
Brist DiStefano.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Andrew Kay, Landon Wells, Matt,
manhandle my ham candle.
Okay.
And he's a question mark.
I'm a, that's a Drexler.
That's funny.
Rated L.E. XXX. X. X.
Eric.
Eric Trucco.
John Rock.
Kyle Cole.
Ivan Canales.
Sad scientist.
H. Foley's pen-poked pork belly smackdown.
Five foot seven and 240,
a.k.a. the gut is tremendous.
And the place is lost in the matrix.
Sorry.
Five foot seven and 240,
aka the gut is tremendous.
And the piece is lost in the matrix.
And I'm stuck in my mom.
basement. Put them on the list. Okay. So,
there we go. Yeah. And that's how powerful your name was. You were a victim of a bad read
and you still made the list. Still made the list. That is hilarious. Nick Tarone, Tony Soprano's
nostrils.
List? A Drexler. Okay. Yeah, good one.
Omar de Cartel. Uh, love. Okay. Love a g. Love a g. Love a g. Love a g-a
cutie with a booty but been wanting to get under a muzzle, mu, mu, big.
going to go peeing when mayor uberjockey turns them in it's it's one of the longest ones we
ever had it's a tough one yeah what they do with the other two fifths three fifths i don't get
three fifths a man oh okay okay uh mexican coke no ice very good you're gonna have to put that
on the list okay and that's what you call a contender that's a chicken finger contender on the list
Chicken fingers is the hardest
If you make it on the list
Just with a with a quick zap
That's hard
Also victim of a bad read
Get on the list is hard
So we got two neck and necks
We got two really good ones
Yeah you got
This is like one like a 14 seed
Makes the sweet 16
Yeah what I mean
Yes
Yeah
Then we got Brady Gibson
Oliver S
Nicholas Kleiser
Thomas Wolfe
Contractor bag suffocation
A.K. Muzzy Face Sitting
A lot of 14
Wait, dude, give me that one again?
Contractor bag suffocation, aka Muzzy Face Sitting.
Is that waterboarding?
Yes.
It's a good try, waterboarding, right?
Just joke.
All right.
Alexandros Kircolos, Stavallos, aka Lil Stamos.
Wow.
That is a Greek.
You got the diner award.
Yeah.
Matthew Dunn, Will Perry, taking Leroids, so I finally have the strength to leave my family.
Put them on the list.
Holy shit.
The Leroy's.
To leave my family.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a borderline walked in one, but it's so good.
It's going on the list.
It's a...
Now, it's in the lead.
Strength to leave my family, so it all plays in nice.
Oh, my God.
That had layers.
Yeah, that had layers.
Oh, my God.
Kernan, Brett Mouton, father bills, $9 bill.
Wow, his kids are homo three times.
Yeah.
Gooch fumes.
Matt, sat on...
on her chest
because she woke up
the boys
no we don't want to do that
we don't want to do that
walked into one
can't do that
yeah we don't want to do that
yeah yeah
and it's not even fun anymore
because she took out her fakes
John
John Curtis
Tyler Nickham
and then we got
Chrissy's dead Siberian Husky
no
come on that's my family
Joseph beat
no
no
because we have to start
can someone start
a market on Cal She
on whether Chris is going to keep that dog or will it will be returned.
Someone start a market, please.
It's just what it is.
I want to gamble on it.
You might see next Thanksgiving like, well, Chris's turkey kind of looks like a dog.
By the way, that chick who started cows, she's like the youngest billionaire ever.
I know.
Some young girl.
Chris, it's your mother, true TV called They changed the door locks.
Okay.
Shane girls?
Oh, Shane girlless.
Like Gillis.
Okay.
Okay. Nuremberg Trials, aka Juice Clues.
Ladd 14.
Like, blues clues.
Tony put it on the Walked Into One List.
I can't wait for us.
We're going to do an end of the year,
Walked In One List on our Patreon.
That's going to be a fun episode.
Michael Hamburg, Donny T.
Please Build the UK A Wall.
Major Sandstorm.
Walked in one.
Also on the list, Tony.
Also put that one on the list.
I mean, they're going to be some of our best.
Then we got W-E-B-T-D-B-B-T-D-B-B-E-B-D-B-W.
Put them on the list.
Oh, God.
It's a good one.
Yeah, it's a good one.
It's a walk-thead-a-one one, too, but put them on a list.
Yeah, then we got Ring-Ding-Wigger.
Way-Song-Chi-N-E-N-K-Ean.
Okay.
But I didn't say anything.
I'm right.
That's fine.
Yeah, yeah.
James Sorrentino.
Then we got...
Put the Ring-D-D-W-R-D-1 list, too.
Then we got used Venezuelan fishing boats for sale.
assembly required
another walked into one on the list
this list is powerful
it's really good
squanto squeaky pox
blanket company
this is the list
Tony Tony you gotta get to work
yeah Tony you gotta get to work
Max Wurterman
then we got Jay Venetia
let me sit in your lapy while you bang me
me with a strappy Ybarra
okay really good Drexler
Drexel.
Asian pirate.
I fry airplanes.
Put him on the walk in one place.
Because we have the funniest fan base on the internet.
It's what it is.
It's just what it is.
A.D. Then we got Teddy tuckbacks.
Adam Powell.
Just a few more here.
John Slater.
Justin Eukenhofer.
Britsman. Mike Hill.
Here forth a content.
My Husky Archie is cooler than Josephine.
No, she's not.
No, he's not
Uganda chick, toss my salad
Call that a Mamdani asserol
Pretty decent
I like that almost
Almost
Deaf leopard sucks
One from Nick
Okay
Ecarus didn't fly too close to the sun
It was Jews
Okay
Way song she ain't
I did ask my frisbee girl
What she wants for Christmas
She said surprise me
So I did give her an oven
Lad of 14
Tony get to work
Okay
Then we got trans kid
Who moved to Germany
Call me Transfure
Okay, Richard Bia, Gecko, Big Red, Big Red Tie, aka Bubba's Comrag, Lance Campbell.
Then we got Jose Fritz, I-Baseman Airbnb, back in black, Leroy Laugh Factory, no tippers, but tipsy, okay, he actually just wrote the N-word.
I can't do that.
I caught that one.
Okay.
Chimney sweeper, aka my tongue's going in your ass.
Put him on the lip.
Oh, wow, okay.
Oh, God.
Okay
Then we got
Cause calling someone
Who looks your ass
The chimney sweeper
Is it 10?
What it is?
Yeah, we got another one
For the Lexicon
Yeah
Did she sweep your chimney
Yes
Hasboula's
Heavyweight booster seat
Goofy glue gun
Guzzle gal
GW
Amy take me back
Baby that guy in the sauna
Was a doctor
Someone is really
Trying to get her back
Yeah, that's what it is
And he's just had
She walks to a gay trist
Yes
Big Mike's
Wait so
So you got a Drexler that.
I didn't even catch that for a second.
Can you repeat that?
Because gay guys usually like to bang in the sauna.
Amy, take me back, baby.
That guy in the sauna was a doctor.
So he was begging a guy.
He just did it because the guy was a doctor.
He had to do what he had to do.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
Amy, take the kid back.
But it is a Drexler.
Big Mike's extendo, clippy chaos.
Seamere 76.
Who had a Riki roof?
Scooby-Doo or Chairman Mao?
Okay.
I name my rice cooker little boy.
Okay.
Stanley Tucci touch my coochie
Um
Special K
Ding with
bling pinged her
Now I pay spousal support
He tried
Okay
Charlie Tong
Walked into one
And got dinged
Pascal Seacum on my face
The basketball player
Yep
Dane the Toot Brazil
Blue Torch TV
Edison Rosario
Joe Liss mouth tape
It's inside, so I'm going to Drexler it, but good one.
Good one.
Okay.
Aiden.
Fedafoot fanatic, Winnie the Jew, which we've had.
Siberian puppy.
Why does the peanut butter taste funny?
Very funny.
Yep.
Bogarting a Dece piece in my stink portal, Yoss.
BBF's Big Bone F word.
Pill Cosby?
We've had Pill,
Yeah. Josh Lowry, Weijon Dink, China's building space lasers for the Frisbees,
and then last but not least, seeking congressional approval to hold one of those AOC cups, AOCC cups.
Okay. Yeah. That gets a K. That gets a K. Yep. Good one. Good tries, everyone. This is obviously...
Just so you know, I just want to say, just so you know, there's a couple of people right in the mess. I won't read a Charlie Kirk one.
Is there what? I just won't read them. Okay. Yeah. I just won't read them. So just don't.
Don't just know that that's a walk.
They're not more.
I just won't read them.
Yeah.
We,
when people die,
we don't like it.
Yeah, I'm just not reading it.
I,
but I will read ones about you,
you know,
saying you're coming on my wife's chest.
Yeah.
No,
I won't read those either anymore.
Okay, here we go.
Here's the name.
The worst one of the ones that stuck with me
was one of those.
Yeah.
It was a bad.
It was a famari treat.
Yeah, but it was a good one.
Okay, here we go.
So, here's the list.
W.E.B.T.
DeBooy. Got to keep it around. I mean, it's very creative. Yeah. And then, so that's it for that.
Then we got Mexican Coke, no ice. Got to keep it around. Keep it around. Five foot seven and
240, aka the gut is tremendous and the piece is lost in the matrix and I'm stuck in my mom's basement.
Very funny. I'm going to Drex through you any other day. It's just a strong list. This is how the
game works. If you don't know the rules, don't play the game. Taking Leroids, so I finally have the
strength to leave my family. It's got to stay around.
I ought to stay around.
And then we have chimney sweeper,
aka my tongue's going in your ass.
We're going to chicken finger you.
Wow, okay, but chimney sweeper makes the lexicon.
Welcome to the lexicon.
Thank you for helping us with more sayings.
So Sabrina the hyena,
if you can add chimney sweeper to our lexicon
at history hyenas is back.com
and just chimney sweeper.
And the definition is
someone who's going to tongue your asshole.
Someone who tongues your asshole.
Yeah, I mean, that's probably as big of honor as anything.
So the list is,
W.E.B.T.
DeBoy. Taking Leroy
so I finally have the strength to leave my family
or Mexican Coke, no ice.
Okay. What's the first one again?
W.E.B.T.
Du Boi. Okay. We're going to move
that one to the walked into one list.
Okay. Yeah. We're going to move that one to the walk into one list.
Unbelievably creative.
I mean, really, truly.
Unbelievable. Look, it's just
you're on with probably stronger names.
This is just, it's a tragedy because that belongs.
up in lights. So we got Mexican
Coke, no ice, and then we got taking Leroids,
so I finally have the strength to leave my family.
I mean,
I don't know that we've ever had one as layered
or is that. Yeah, we're going to have to
we're just going to have to honor
Mexican coconut ice.
We're going to honor that.
It's just unfortunate that
you were just, this is the definition
of Clyde Drexler, who would have had
six championships if he did not play
in the era of Michael Jordan.
And unfortunately, this is Michael
Jordan, calling it
Leroids.
It's just next level.
And that's what I respect about Nick.
Even Nick is overriding the Latino vote and saying, you know what?
What's fair is fair?
Taking Leroids, right?
Taking Leroyal, so I finally have the strength to leave my family.
It has to be the winner.
It just has to be the winner.
We got to play by the rules.
So history hyenas is back.com.
You can go see your name up in lights.
Taking Leroyd, so I finally have the strength to leave my family.
You are this week's winner.
I mean, because if you're not at patreon.
com slash history hyenas. I really don't know what you're doing. That's actually where we're putting
probably the best episodes just because it's the only, we keep getting ding left and right by
YouTube. So all the no holds bar comedies there, or even if you just want to listen to our episodes
with no ads, you get mad at us having to promote freaking all these companies. Go to patreon.com
slash history hyenas and just see it. And join the community. They talk to each other in the chat.
We hop in there. They create all those photoshopps that we put on Instagram. You know,
it's a way. That's well respond to you there. Yeah. It's just an insane community that
makes you sane because everyone's there for a good time and you're away from all the negativity
of the world. Patreon.com slash history highness. And most importantly, we love you guys. We really do.
We do this for you.
