History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - The Odyssey: The Way Out is In | History Hyenas
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you're still handsome, but when you were walking today, I said he doesn't care anymore.
Yeah.
The thing about you, you're a comedian.
The thing about comedians, people really underestimate it is we are professional not
noticeers.
Yes.
We get paid to notice and you have the eyes, not of a hawk, but of a woman.
Yes.
You do have the eyes.
You notice slight differences in hair, slight differences in outfits.
You looked at my shoes, which is wild.
This is what a woman does.
He noticed right away when I saw him at the thing, he could look down.
He goes, you got nice crisp air max on.
Yeah.
I didn't notice what sneakers he was wearing until he told me what sneakers he was wearing.
Yeah.
You noticed, you know what kind of week I've had based on my appearance.
You know that I've fallen way off the food wagon.
Yes.
I've been having burgers.
I've been having sausages.
I've been drinking.
I've been having tons of sweets.
many right and you notice the evidence in my tits I noticed evidence in your
tits and I noticed that your allergies were a little bad you were a little banged
up I noticed things about you because what it is like a woman is I'm a healer
and I said how can I help you I'd like to help you and it's what it is and I know
but you do get secret enjoyment of my downfall because you're a woman too
yeah and women fight like that yeah women fight with false compliments I love your
air max and then in the mind's going bitch yeah so you said you love by
airmec but in your head you went bitch or yeah or like
I said, you know, don't worry, Janice.
I said, you're still handsome.
Been in my head.
I'm saying, you're fat.
You're fat.
Yeah.
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I said, I know you had a fun weekend.
I know you probably threw some back, threw some bruise back, because you went, and you had a nice weekend with the neighbors.
And you skipped the Jews house.
And you went to the Polack's house.
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Yeah.
So once, when you do that, when you skip around and you just have fun with the Polish,
because Polish kids, they really like to have a good time.
Here's the thing about, here's the thing about Polish people.
You know them more than me.
I know Polish people big and I know any level of Polish person.
They really like to drink.
They really like to have a good time.
And they really don't allow Muslims in the country.
That's just what the things are.
Oh, you mean they're country now?
They're very Catholic and they just really kind of have a big border around their country.
They don't because they got kicked around a lot by the Nazis and, you know, and that's what it is.
So I do know that.
And I know that Polish people, you know, even though like, you know, Dr. Lukash, very skinny man, very high cholesterol.
He's got worse cholesterol than me.
So the thing is because they like to throw a few, what they're doing is all day they're drinking vodka and eating pierogies.
And they do it, they do it privately in their own homes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, I want to make this episode really shoot up.
So I'm just going to say what everyone wants to say.
The problem is not the Muslims, okay?
Yeah.
It's the Muslims and Christians against the Jews.
That's what it is.
Right, because the Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet.
Yeah.
Numbers through the roof.
Through the roof.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
That's what it is now.
Now, look, I'm off the beam in a major way.
I told you I have a laboral shoulder laborum tear.
I like to call you Chrissy veterans now.
Yeah.
Chrissy veterans.
Chrisie veterans.
A old school veteran who's got, now you're at the point.
where you're going to have to do veteran tricks.
You've got to rub a little icy hot.
You're going to do a little vaseline on your fastball.
Your body is banged up.
It's banged up.
And I had for the last three months...
You have a little war victory.
You're the only guy with war wounds that hasn't been in battle.
That hasn't been in battle.
But I do still fight the Japanese on a daily basis.
You've got a lot of wars going in on your head.
Yeah.
And you just want an ethno...
You don't want an ethno state.
It's a one of German...
Right.
Protestant.
It's just what is...
But you're Catholic.
Because in my mind, I'm on the front lines every day.
So when I, yeah, because what it is, because when I come down my stairs and I see my family
and I see the multiple members of my family that I didn't invite to my house, it's like
when the back of the boat's opening in D-Day, and I say, I'm going in, I'm storming the beach,
because that's what it is, because make absolutely no mistake, I have a wild family.
And so, but so I got this a laboral tear, and it's the first time ever in my life.
that I could not sleep from the pain in my shoulder
to the point where it was like
it really is making me think like
how for granted you take
like now I got real pain
I can't do the exercises I want
I can't hold my kid
it's her birthday tomorrow
I can't throw them in the pool
because I got this laboral tear
and I was up all night
you know I was trying to get jazz
and jerk me off she wouldn't do it
and then I got her to rub a little cream on my arm
but that's about it and I'm in real pain
because and it sucks
and I got to let and then once the late
labor tears. Here's what I know. Once the laborer is, it doesn't come back. I won't have a labor
now for the rest of my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're built for the first half of life.
It's what it is. What it is. God makes those things, you know. But you said I look good today.
You do look good to me. But see, I feel like, I don't look good. My whoop recovery. I'm at 20% recovery.
I'm in the red. My hair doesn't feel good. I did my physical therapy. I was almost crying
when I couldn't move my arm. You're Chinese electronics. It's what it is. On the outside, you're going
like, wow, that's a good price. I'm going to buy it. And then it breaks real quick. Yeah.
Yeah. So you're just Chinese electronic. I'm just Chinese electronic.
Chrisi right now. My shoulders are made in China. You're a good package, but once you start
using you a little bit, there's broken parts. And you got to buy a new one. Yeah. Your Achilles is falling
off. Your foot's about to fall off. Your feet are broken. Well, you're crucified. But here's
the thing. Let me just give you guys an update. I'm on physical therapy for my knees and my
Achilles. Yeah. Look at this. Go this way. Where? A little closer that to this. No, no.
No, no. No, you're blocking it completely. Close it to the desk. Here we go. Yeah, good, good.
So all the Achilles. See? Asshole off the floor. Yeah. No pain.
But now, look, this is how you're supposed,
this is normal range of motion on a shoulder.
Yeah.
That's fine.
Look at this one.
Whoa.
Not good.
Not good, yeah.
Not good.
We're coming into what we call a little thing we call in the biz adhesive capsulitis,
a.k.a. frozen, your shoulder.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, at least it's frozen in a way that you're comfortable with.
You just got to go the other way with it.
Yeah, because he keeps saying, because the therapist, because the therapist keeps saying,
he's like, you know, you've got no range of motion.
I said, what, it's fine.
What are you talking about?
It's smooth.
thing. It's the way. It's the way God wanted it to go. Maybe God's giving you a boost to
put it where it needs to be. Because, you know, as you were saying, before the cameras turned
on, I mean, you know, it's coming back. A one-party system's coming back. Are we either going to have
the liberal communists who come in and do it one way? Or the right-wing fascists. Or the fascists.
Or the fascists. Maybe he's just getting my arm ready for some smash. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's definitely go, everything's become so decentralized. Because make no mistake, whatever happens,
whatever happens in the future, I know Jesus on the good guy's side. Whoever is always on your side. He's
waiting for you. It's what it is. He's within us all. He's within us all. He's outside. He's,
the kingdom of God is within us and outside of us. And outside of us. Yeah, it's definitely
going to go that way. You know, people forget we're a teenage country. Right. Right. We're a
teenage country. Yeah. We got the bolster. We got the emotional swings. We throw the tantrums.
That's why the rest of the world jerks off to us. Yeah. Have you noticed the rest of the world is
kind of tired. They've been through it. Right. Like you go places and they're like, you can just
smell all the carnage that happened. And everyone's walking around just going like, we did that. We did
that like just chill out.
And here we're here going like, yeah, yeah.
We're like bea-and-a-buck-ha-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-hkha.
You're like, those places already did that.
Yeah.
And everyone got slaughtered.
Yeah, remember that old pre-workout when we were a teenager called N-O explode?
Yeah.
That's what we're on.
No.
We're ready to go.
And you know how like a teenager you could tell them the wisdom, but then they do it
anyway because they need to learn it for themselves?
Right.
So I feel like we're at that stage where we want to learn the horrors of history for ourselves.
For ourselves.
So I think America's going to go through a little growing up period.
And I don't think it's avoidable.
I don't think you can avoid it.
I think it's just you just buckle down, get your bunker, and just wait it out.
And you just wait it out and we'll see what happens.
You, because today you want to talk about the audits.
I wanted to talk about Eugene shorts first.
Yeah, I got on.
You got jorts on.
Because I got jorts on and make no mistake, I do, I feel like a woman in the South.
Yeah.
What I was looking at, maybe what you should do is cut those things off and tighten them up so you could look like dirty dancing.
That's what I'd like to do.
And I wore these jorts yesterday to City Field.
Yesterday, we went to the Mets Yankees game.
Now, I decided to bring Jazz and the kids.
And, of course, just in fashion, you know, I was in the car an hour before waiting.
They don't come down.
We left my house about five minutes before the actual game started.
It took an hour to get there in traffic so we don't get there to the end of the third inning.
Right.
Of course, they're complaining.
You know, we're in this beautiful suite.
They're complaining, you know, oh, the game's far and blah.
They want to go home.
My third cousin is just got.
called up we're gonna miss it we're gonna miss that shit so now so we're waiting waiting waiting
and then all of a sudden you know just complaining girls complaining everybody's complaining i'm like
i just want to watch a baseball game here and then it's the eighth inning yankees are up six
three okay everybody thinks okay games over it's at city field they're like come on let's just go
i said can we just we only got in the third inning what's the difference we got so much time
it's a one o'clock game they're like come on let's go so have to leave begrudgingly we're in the car
in the traffic leaving all of a sudden you hear city
field erupt.
The Mets hit a three-run homer
in the bottom of the ninth to tie the game.
So now I'm just gripping the wheel.
Even Jazz knows. She was like, wow, what?
Is that because the game's over?
Yeah, well, hop on. Yeah, and then I put on the radio,
the announcers are going crazy. Like, you just missed history.
And then they win, of course, in the bottom of the
10th. And I'm just sitting in traffic and flushing,
surrounded by Chinese people, just listening to
one of the best games in the league this year.
while I'm just sitting there, you know, as jazz is complaining,
the kids are complaining telling me to put on K-pop and the demon hunters and then
cats eye and I'm just like, you know.
I was alone.
I was alone.
I'm like, how about I drive this car off the R of K Bridge?
Right.
You know what I like about you?
You know, I think definitely we, I believe in former lives for sure.
Sure.
I think in a former life, I was probably a dog.
And unfortunately, I was probably a dog because I love dogs.
Right.
The things you're tugged to is probably what you were.
So I was probably a dog, but unfortunately I was probably a dog in Korea.
Right.
And so I had a short life, but I was delicious at some point.
Yeah.
You no doubt feel a tug towards the revolutionary period.
Yeah.
And there's no question you were revolution.
You were in that time, but you were some sort of double agent, intelligent asset.
Right.
Because for you to have the ability to switch from the Yankees to the Met so quick and feel nothing for the Yankees now.
It means you're up.
Your pussy is up to the highest bidder.
Yeah.
You sell that pussy to whoever fucking, because how could you watch the Mets and Yankees and be so happy about the Mets tying the game?
When you were a lifelong Yankee fan, I mean, Barney Rubble must be fucking turning in his grave that he's not in yet but soon.
But Barney Rubble, actually Barney Rubble is on my side because it got personal with the Yankees and the Mets.
So that's what happened.
The Mets started to, you know, I did a...
But is there something in your heart that still tugs for the Yanks?
I don't hate the Yankees.
The thing is I don't hate the Yankees.
and I wasn't necessarily rooting for one team
but I was just enjoying the game yesterday.
If the Yankees won the World Series,
I would love to see that.
I don't hate them.
But the problem is it got personal
because the Yankees were just such,
being such scumbags to my family,
to me and my family,
especially my stepson.
They just really treated them like shit.
And then the Mets just treated my family so well
that you just kind of saw
a little bit of the inner workings
of the organization.
I said the Mets just seemed like better people
on the front office than the Yankees.
Granted, I only met a couple of people
in the Yankees' front office.
There was one lady who was really nice
who would give the tickets
for the Yankee shout out Debbie she was always awesome but some of the other people I ran into
really just dirt bags and like thought who they were and I didn't like the way they treated my
family so it got personal so all you know and that's why sometimes you know my friends like
you know my friends from home are like how could you switch from the Yankees and mets I said it's
personal guy okay I got to meet the high ups on the team you're never going to meet the high
ups on the team so why you shut your fucking mouth and and enjoy your fucking cargo shorts
in section 300 you could suck my ass they disrespected my stepson
and I'm just not going to stand for it.
So, yeah.
I mean, you know, what we just learned there is sort of like one of those universal truths
that we all have to accept, right, is that the better people, the better people are usually
the losers in life.
It's what it is.
And when they call it the evil empire, it's usually, you know, because they're horrible
people, you know, that's why the Yankees are so great, right?
They win a lot, but it just comes at a cost, right?
It's like when you meet successful people, it's like, don't meet your heroes.
Right.
You really find out that they're really.
pieces of shit and that's what you've got to be too six feet that's what it is and and here's the thing
is I feel like um you know Barney Rubble told me something once we were sitting in traffic on the
barrazzano bridge and somebody somebody cut him off cars were honking whatever my dad had no reaction
he never had road rage which I always learned that's why I don't think I have any road rage and he was
like because he didn't have anything on any money on the car that hit him yeah that's what it is
and so and so I said to him that doesn't upset you and he was like Chris you're going to really
start to enjoy life when you understand life isn't fair.
Yeah. So, and then, you know, and then I think he was just looking at himself in the mirror,
you know, his eyes going this way, you know, you know, driving, you know, in 1987 Oldsmobile,
the door, the doors used to fly open on the middle of the high. I used to have to, so it was like
a Tesla before the Tesla. Yes, I used to have to hold the doors. Yeah, close. So they just used to
fly open. So we're dealing with that. So I always thought that. Like, yeah, I always knew that.
Yeah, it's not fair. And I thought about that already, too. I was like, yeah, the Yankees,
they are who they are. Just like the most successful people, usually pieces.
shit, but it's like, I'd like to be happier with a little less. You know what I, I actually saw a study.
This is just recently I saw that people who always are saying like that grind mentality and you
got to grind and all day, they have the same levels of stress as people who are poverty because
they're just stressed out in a different way. That's an inch. So you got to have a balance.
Yeah. Now that, that is a perfect segue into diving back into the antiquity. Antiquity specifically means
the ancient Greek times.
That's what it is.
The glory is.
Because back then,
they had a pantheon of gods.
Right.
And interestingly enough,
the Greeks weren't into weakness.
No, and the Greeks also, too,
they, you can always call that the gloriers
and say that the good old days.
And I think it's safe for everybody
because slaves were white back then.
Slavic slaves.
Right.
So it's fair.
So my point is you can get,
because a lot of times you know
you'll have non-white people back.
That glory, of course, for you.
For you.
Flash.
Right.
It's a good point.
You just have to deal with that thing that they keep hearing on the algorithm and you have to just be like, do you have your, any of your own thoughts?
Or you just a follower for everything you do in your life?
You just want to start saying that to people.
Like to have your own original idea.
But so.
I like steel pipe, Chrissy.
He's my friend.
It's because I haven't slept in my shoulder hurts.
Yes.
So let's hit it.
But slaves were white in Greek antiquity.
So it's a plus for everybody.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
It's a, you're saying it's safe to say good all days because you say good all days in any other time.
And then, you know, people just are like, oh, yeah, this is this response I'm supposed to have because I saw it online.
Yeah, it was good for you.
I'm supposed to be upset by this.
It was good for you.
Good for you.
It wasn't good for me.
You're like, you weren't there.
But yeah, it was a guy, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is a fun one that I just learned about today or yesterday or whatever.
So the Greeks, they had something called.
Because you got to start working on your biceps.
You're starting to piss me off.
I'm just deflated.
He's starting to piss me off.
I need you to get a pump.
I'm starting to look fat.
Yeah, I hate it.
Yeah.
I want you.
At least you step biceps.
I had them like last week.
So they're going to, where are they?
Yeah.
Trying to piss me off.
So the Greeks, the Greeks had a ritual called farbacos.
Nice.
That's fine.
Which means scapegoat.
which is wild.
It was sort of like, I'm crying.
It's sort of like the purge.
This is so wild.
So during times of plagues, famine, or crisis,
marginalized people.
This is so horrible.
Sometimes described as criminals beggared,
disabled, or ugly.
Okay.
So they would take ugly people
from the village and they'd be
beaten, humiliated, or
killed in a symbolic purification
of the city. Just get them out.
So it's bad.
Yeah.
So they just weren't into it.
Because the ancient...
But they didn't deal with traffic.
Right?
They kind of just got things done a little quicker.
Yeah.
Well, you know, they didn't really have, you know, the Greeks, the thing that they didn't have was like this...
They didn't really, like, have a care for, like, the weak or empathy.
They didn't have a God for that.
Right.
The only thing they had was hubris.
Like, be careful of hubris.
Like being, like, cocky?
Yeah, just like being too.
too cocky.
It was like they, and that's what we're going to talk about the Odyssey today.
And Odysseus, you know, they loved the, the, the Odyssey is a story about a guy who was
extremely cunning, like, and witty.
And so you survive.
They, they, they, they valued cunning over like pure brute strength.
So he was, he's like a complicated hero, but they loved his brain, his wittiness.
Right.
So they didn't like you if you were fucking stupid.
It's just what it is.
And apparently if you were unpleasant.
to the eye, you got beaten.
You got beaten.
When food got a little tight, if you were ugly,
because there was no plastic surgery to fix that situation.
Unfortunately, the old Kardashians, like pre-new faces,
we would have never met them because they would have been out of here.
They would have been out of here.
What's it called again?
Pharmacos.
Pharmacos.
Farmacos.
A little pharmacos.
A little pharmacos.
Yeah, a little pharmacy.
So they were really, you know.
Now, when was this practice?
This was 2,000 years ago, pharmacos?
No, this was a long time ago.
Even before that.
like, yeah, 9,000, 7,000, 6,000 years ago, whatever that.
The Greeks have just been here a long time.
We've been here a long time.
Do you ever think that, and we'll get more into the honesty,
but do you think that potentially Greeks could have been manipulate, DNA manipulated by extraterrestrials?
Because of how far they were able to advance?
No.
You don't think so?
No, I think all that like extraterrestrial, I don't buy any of that shit.
You don't, I don't buy Atlantis as a lost city.
I don't buy the Egyptians, the fucking aliens built it.
I think that they were extreme.
They got very sophisticated.
I'd be like the ancient Egypt was around for thousands of years.
Like we talked about like there was like, there was historians doing ancient tours in Egypt of ancient Egypt.
So they were around for a long time.
They got sophisticated and they figured out how to build a fucking giant triangle.
People get all crazy because it's like it lines up with some stars or some shit.
Yeah, they were sophisticated.
They didn't have an air conditioner yet, but they knew how to build a fucking giant triangle.
It's what it is.
They had slaves, they had workers, they had stones,
they learned how to build a fucking, it's a triangle.
And also, why's everyone freaking out about a fucking triangle?
Triangle.
And also, I just want to let you know that the Egyptians are okay to talk about
because their slaves were Jews.
Yeah.
So if the Jews were in chains at any moment in history,
then most people in our algorithm say, that's okay.
That's a good one.
Latifute.
Yeah, I mean, so it's like, yeah, they just,
they were ancient people, they figured it out.
The Greeks, you know, and then they'd be, they go,
oh, the thing about the Greeks,
that you have to just accept.
And this is, unfortunately, people take this as like an ethno thing
because people get crazy, right?
They get emotional.
But like, look, look at my genes, right?
So my genes, half of them are Minoan.
Like, I'm actually a DNA Greek going all the way back.
But then I'm Anatolian.
Right.
But I was Greek.
Right.
So it's like, what happened was Alexander
the great spread Greek culture all over the place.
And my peoples were some Anatolian farmers.
right that could we were up for grabs right we could have went muzzi we could have went christian we could
have went buddha fucka ckakka right we could have went whatever gods were there right we went christian
we went greek right so it's a culture that spreads and there's one thing you can't deny about a
culture i was just became that guy again yeah is that greek culture uh is like the bedrock
of like everything good now right it just can't deny i agree with that even though if you muzzly you
can't argue that the Muslim
Golden Age wasn't highly influenced
by the translation of
the ancient Greek thinkers. It's the
bedrock from which all
good things have sprung
in modernity, you know, architecture,
mathematics, lodge, the list
goes on, geometry, whatever
you know, Gasex, all the good
things we enjoy. The only issue you have with your
bedrock is the pool that they put in
was a little uneven. It was a little uneven.
And the contractor got a talking to and now
it's even. Yeah, it's even. Yeah, it's even.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, we figured it out.
You figured it out?
It's figured it out.
I mean, we figured it out somewhere.
I'm not, yeah, we figured it out.
Yeah, the guy got real nervous.
Yeah, the problem is these guys love the show.
So it's what it is.
It's what it is.
I'm very happy with it.
Yeah, he's happy with it.
Sometimes it's very uncomfortable with someone in your life who can be a source of material
and then they just tell you that they're big fans of this show.
Yeah, it's so he's listening to this right now.
Yeah, but what I've decided to do.
I'm very happy with the bull.
What I've decided
Any thoughts I have
I'll tell you privately
Yeah, it's just what it is
Or I'll read the text message out
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Yeah, but, you know, people do like this show.
And sometimes it's a conflict because sometimes Chris's family listens to the show too.
Well, I know, and it's what it is, but what I've started doing recently in my life is saying,
I'm not seeking parental,
I'm not seeking parental approval anymore
of anything in my life. I'm starting to think
about life as, what would I do?
What would I be doing if my parents weren't here?
That's how you got to live your life.
That's how you get to happiness.
Stop trying to seek your parental's,
parents' approval as you get older.
Because it's like that holds you back in life.
Like, Yanni, you're free.
You do whatever you want.
You got that wig on, you got the skirt on.
It doesn't matter, okay?
Yeah, because you're your own man.
Now you're an adult.
It's just what it is.
You're an adult.
I've spent a lot of my adult years.
just trying to seek parental approval, I'm just not doing it anymore.
I can understand that because you're a man.
You are your own father and a mother.
You are what it is.
You're a parent to others now.
And I tore, so I tore my shoulder labrum jerking off to gay point.
Because you're just doing what you want to do.
I'm doing what I want to do.
I took a flight down to go see thunder from down under in Australia.
Because I said, I don't care about my mom, dad think of me anymore.
And I ripped the labor off.
It's what happens.
It's just what happens.
You're a free man.
I'm a free bird.
You're a free bird.
You're no longer.
You're a tilted, you're a free tilted bird.
That's what it is.
So the Odyssey.
Yeah, let's talk about the rage.
Yeah, there's the Cyclops in it.
You know what, Cus, I got to be honest, I was listening to it, I was learning about it.
I don't really know.
You're more of the expert with the Odyssey.
I know some parts about it, but I don't really know, you know, the story, so I'm eager to learn.
There's one word that has no truth on this show.
Our show is, there's one thing that you said that just doesn't exist on the show.
Everything exists on the show.
except for expert.
Yeah.
There's nothing involved in the show.
That's true.
Where there's expertise.
That's a good point.
This is one of the stupidest rooms in the country.
This is a gathering of four of the stupidest people to ever live.
If me and you didn't have any comedic talent, we would be hard pressed to get jobs anywhere.
Big time.
I mean, you are a physical therapist, but you're like on the low rung of physical therapy.
I can't even rehab my own shoulder.
Yeah, I mean, you dropped a noodle in a cadaver.
It's what it is.
I mean, you are, like, to Filipinos look at you, right.
You know, it's like, really, are we going to let this fucking immigrant do what we do?
They look at you that way.
Right.
They go, this is a Filipino thing.
There's some fucking jacked white guy trying to be a physical therapist.
This guy dropped a noodle and a cadaver.
It's what it is.
And why am I calling a cadaver a cadaver?
It's not McGiver.
Because, and then you're, and then you come from a fucking retard.
I was going to say, then you come from a family where your older brother went to Oxford.
Yeah.
And then people say, oh, talk about the Poppus brothers,
say they say isn't one of them, doesn't one of them have special needs,
and they don't know if it's you or your actual brother has special needs.
It's exactly right.
They'll see you on Facebook and they'll see the Marisa week and they're not sure if it's you
or the brother who's in a group home.
Right, exactly.
Because, listen, he has an excuse.
I don't.
I don't.
That's the thing.
So I actually might put you lower than him.
Yeah, you can't even say special needs people are like, you can't make fun of them
because they don't have a choice.
Yeah.
Like, I'm stupid.
Like, and I have the potential.
to not be.
Right.
I'm just not built
with the winning qualities
that make that happen.
It's just what it is.
So, yeah, I just, yeah,
calling me anyone out here
an expert at anything.
It's wild.
I mean, the only thing
that me and you are an expert
on is not being an expert.
Right.
So I learned about the Odyssey.
Now, I never read it.
I didn't grow up with it
because my parents barely
paid attention to me.
Most Greeks, this is a big deal.
Greeks are very upset
that there's a black woman in the Odyssey.
It's what in it?
The movie coming out.
Yeah, they're just very upset.
and this is the thing
they're very upset about the black woman
but if you know
the ancient Greeks actually admired
the ancient Ethiopians because
and they actually called them hot
so I don't know hot Ethiopian women are beautiful
yeah they called them like hot
what is Elia Page doing in the movie
they're also upset about that
is she what is she doing
what is he doing what's his part in
well it's become a huge thing
on the internet now and I have to say
it's funny in a very in a way that I think
would hurt his feelings a lot, but it's hard.
It's hard.
I know you're on the internet a lot.
They started making movie trailers with Elliot Page in like very manly warlike scenes.
Right.
And Elliot Page is just getting brutalized.
So they're using AI because Elliot Page is in the movie.
And this is a movie about war.
But do you know what character Elliot Page plays?
She's played a guy.
No, she's not a kid.
Dude, if it was Achilles, I think the Greeks would riot.
Yeah, she is Achilles.
She's Achilles?
Yeah.
So I got a, yeah, I made a video,
and there's a lot of Greeks upset with me,
and they might have been the ones that spam reported me.
Because I said it, look, this is a fantasy, it's not a big deal.
But here's the deal.
I might be wrong, because even my brother was upset about the African woman playing Helen.
He goes, well, that's stupid.
I go, listen, it's fantasy.
Anyone can play whoever they want.
Like, I don't care about them at all.
Because it's like, whatever.
They're actors.
Are we going to get upset?
Nobody was upset with Anthony Quinn played Zorba.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
I mean, are we going to get upset when Al Pacino played Carlito?
I mean, who gives a shit?
Somebody played the Egyptian Pharaoh.
Somebody played Moses, who was a white guy?
Yeah, I mean, who gives his shit?
I heard somebody say with that one, I think I forgot who played him, but it was like,
they didn't have a Middle Eastern actor that could sell the type of tickets that,
whomever the lead was.
I forgot who it was.
So it's like this is what it is.
Like people are going to go see Mount Damien and Elliott Page.
Yeah, I just think, well, I don't know about Elliott.
I don't know.
But yeah, I think people get, I think what it is is the culture wars kind of leak into
the movies, Jesse, right?
Is that what your take?
Well, I think the movies are the ones who start them all.
Or start, I don't, yeah, I don't know why people are so worked up about this.
There's some rumors going around that, uh, in order to win an Academy Award,
you need specific casting.
So you have to have a person to color and you have to have trans.
So they change the rules of what can win now.
Got it.
So that's why they're catch.
Is that true?
Is that probably true?
Yeah, they changed how you can win an Oscar.
Well, either way, I don't care.
I don't know why people...
I don't care.
Then don't go see the movie.
Like, why are people so upset?
By the way, that's just a theory.
We don't know why Christopher Nolan casted the way he casted.
Other than it's really big in the news right now.
To me, it's...
It's huge in the news.
I don't care.
But it's just something to talk.
I'm going to go see the movie regardless.
I don't give a fuck who's accurately represented.
It looks like a good movie.
Does it not?
Yeah, I mean, it's Christopher Nolan.
So, I mean...
I mean, what has not done well?
I want to see Cyclops, you know, crushing people.
Yeah, and my only point is, why was I not considered for that role?
Seriously, you should have at least got an audition.
Yeah, I should have got an audition, be like, we don't need, we can save a lot on special effects.
I want to see it.
I want to see if I can get my little greasy hands on an early copy.
Yeah, you should have been in something, too.
You look like a big old Greek.
Yeah, it's just what it is, because it's just what is TV and film.
I've just consistently said no.
Well, listen.
So, that's why I'm into stand up and podcasting.
So, but, you know, as it turns out, I mean, how bad, that didn't turn out to be that bad of a thing.
No.
I don't think.
I think people did it because they had to do it, but I don't know how many people really actually enjoyed it.
What?
Like the process of making a movie.
No, I don't think so.
I think probably being in a play is funner.
More fun.
Well, that's why you see a lot of guys doing it.
But this cast from The Odyssey looks great.
Now, here's the thing is what I want to know about what the Odyssey means to you.
And I want to know about, tell me about the Odyssey because here's the only broad strokes that I know.
You want to take an 11 milligram just so we have something to play for?
No, I would, but I'm holding in an emergency shit.
And I already drank three coffees today because I got an hour of sleep.
Okay.
So if I didn't, I would have taken one and given myself a heart attack.
But here's what I know about the Odyssey.
I know that it was written by Homer, who was the poet, who's definitely a gay kid, right?
Yeah.
I mean, the thing about that is we're not sure whether it was like Homer wrote it or it was like a collection of poems.
and he's the guy or maybe the guy
that compiled all these oral traditions.
It's just like the same thing with the Greek gods.
They were around in oral traditions.
Same thing with like Christianity, right?
So, oral traditions passed out.
And then finally someone writes it down.
So they think Homer might be a bunch of different writers
and he collected it or something like that.
Or he could be the guy who wrote it all.
They don't know for sure.
So what's the difference between the Iliad and the Odyssey?
He, him, or are they them?
It's just what it is.
Is it the Iliad and the Odyssey Homer wrote both of them?
Yeah.
So what's the Iliad?
That's the one with the Battle of Troy, the Trojan horse?
Yeah, that's the one with that.
And then the Odyssey's, he's coming home.
He's coming home.
He's coming home.
He's going to Philly.
He's coming home.
And I know that it takes him 10 years to get home.
And the kid just really misses his wife and kids.
But on the way, he does bang out some...
He bangs out some gods.
He bangs out some checks.
It's just what it is.
Because back then it was like, I really love my family.
But that doesn't mean I'm not going to get sucked off by a siren.
Ralf 14.
So it's an amazing tale with a lot in it.
And just researching for this made me realize a lot of things.
You were peeing about this.
I was poignant about us.
Well, you know, it's trending.
So we're playing the internet game.
Just what it is.
There's no bigger news right now than this, right?
And it's big controversy.
People are upset.
What's her name, Lupita?
She's an excellent actress and she is a Pee, B, B, P.
Now, I was telling my brother, my brother said, I saw your video, but I don't know everything
about it.
My brother's a super lip.
Sure.
So I was like, it's fine.
it's no big deal. And then he goes, well, I think it's kind of stupid that she's playing Helen.
And I don't know.
Troy, because Helen was most likely if she was Troy, that's...
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, she's playing Penelope.
Who's Penelope?
Penelope is like main character wife, right? Is she playing Penelope?
So is that, is that his wife? The guy who's traveling 10 years, that's his wife?
Yeah, Odicious, yeah. Odysius.
Who's she playing?
Papitas. He put Lapitas. Pipitas and Odyssey.
Yeah.
Judging put Pepitus in honesty.
Yeah.
How do you spell Lapita?
L-U Pita.
L-U-Pitas.
Yeah.
How do you say lepitas?
Lepitas.
Le Pitas.
Yeah.
She's playing Helen and Troy.
And Helen's sister.
How is she playing two people up once?
I don't know.
Listen, I say Pee.
Oh, and Hathaway's Pantonelli.
So I was wrong about it.
I think people just need to give it a chance.
And also, it's a fictional story.
Also, know, we're in America.
So it's like our interpretation of it.
Yeah.
It's the same thing with like Greek culture.
It's like Alexander the Great viewed it.
You know, he wasn't Greek the way Minowans were Greek.
He was Macedonia.
They were all Greek the same way the Byzantine Empire was Greek.
It's a culture that spread.
Honey, that's what happens with culture, baby gorgeous, is what people, I don't know why this isn't spoken about more.
It's like when you talk about ancient cultures, the Greek culture, the whatever, the African culture, whatever culture you're a part of, whatever you're practicing right.
now, there's a very high chance that your great, great, great, great, great, great, great,
grandmothers and grandfathers would be rolling over in their grave for whatever tradition you think is
your culture because it was probably raped and pillaged into you over generations after generations
and the culture changes. So that's why when people are like, that's not my culture, it's like
culture is an ever-changing thing to me. Always, it's like, no, it's just one call. It's just humans.
Yeah, I don't think Greek culture is a DNA. I think, yeah, there's something to be proud of if you
come from that tradition, but I don't think it's just this static, defined thing. And it's been proven.
I mean, look, wherever Greek culture goes, wherever Greek culture goes, it makes a place first.
That you can't. People always say, oh, the Greeks are gone. Dude, the Greeks have never left.
The Greeks, they're always here because Rome was Greek, you know, Europe is Greek. All the Greek ideas
that come from those ancient Greek thinkers
have traveled into other cultures.
Being gay is Greek?
Being gay is Greek.
So now the Odyssey is this Greek,
yes, it's a Greek play,
but much like the Greek thinkers,
it's now in America, thousands of years later,
and we happen to have a little bit more
of a multicultural society.
By the way, much like Rome had.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's like you become Roman,
not because of your DNA,
you become Roman because you accept certain cultural things.
You become a citizen of Rome
meant you accepted certain things
and you abided by a certain culture.
Right.
And if everything just stuck to like a race, like the Jews, you're going to.
At some point.
Just what it is.
You're going to annoy people at a certain point because you're going,
what is the secret thing that you want to allow other people into?
So now here's the thing with the honest.
Here's what it is.
The poem has 24 books and can be divided into three major parts.
The situation in Ithaca is the first part.
He had a situation with the mother at that way.
With the mother in Ithaca.
So Odysseus, he's missing for 20 years.
He was 10 years fighting at Troy, which that movie, you know, Troy, you know, Troy.
was Brad Pitt,
10 years trying to get home.
So the kid's gone for 20 years.
He's got a wife, Penelope,
who's being played by Anne Hathaway.
She's surrounded by arrogant suitors
trying to marry her and seize the kingdom.
Then they have a son,
Telemachus, grows up without a dad,
and everyone assumes Odysseus is dead.
The goddess Athena secretly helps
Talmachus search for information about
his father.
Yeah. So this is a story
about Kemen Him in Philly.
Kim in Him.
And Kim in Him.
And it's a story about
a guy who has to make his way home
with all these challenges and all these temptations.
Right.
And it's also a story about his wife, Penelope,
who could also have taken an easier route,
assumed he was dead and married one of these suitors
for her own safety, for own protection.
And she manages to keep Ithaca afloat,
ruling it alone with all these competing dudes
who are trying to tear it down.
So these two people reunite
and take the road less traveled.
They're both, they both choose loyalty and faith in each other.
Like she has no idea he's alive, but she continues to believe he's going to come.
Right.
He, I think for a couple of years, starts banging a God who promises him.
Yes.
They had a year.
They had a child together.
Yeah.
Immortality, constant joy, endless sex.
But what he realizes is that gets boring and it has no meaning.
so paradise in some way becomes a type of hell.
Because there's no change, there's no story.
There's no, most of all, meaning.
So he chooses his story and his life with meaning, which is ruler of Ithaca, to return him.
So then we go, Jessica, you scroll up a little bit.
So then we go to Odysseus' journey.
This is part two.
The legendary adventures, people always talk about the Sassone, C-I-C-O-N-E-S.
I like to call him the Chaconis.
The Chaconis.
Yeah.
Right after Troy, Odysius.
Odysseus and his men raid a city called Ismatis.
They get greedy, stay too long and are attacked.
The early lessenia are pride in excess get people killed.
Then the lotus eaters.
I've heard of this one on another island.
Inhabitants eat lotus plants that make people forget their homes and ambitions.
Symbolically, escapism, addiction, losing purpose.
Odysseus drags his men back to the ships by force because these guys forgot all about their good lives.
The lotus eaters, that's who I call the lovely ladies at West Garden.
Then we got Cyclops Polyphemus.
This is Yanni.
One of the most famous episodes, Odysseus and his men get trapped in the cave of the Cyclops,
the son of Poseidon.
So a lot of people don't know.
Poseidon had a kid.
His name was Cyclops.
Odysseus gets him drunk and says his name is nobody.
Very smart.
After binding the cyclops.
Binding the Cyclops.
Yep.
Because he says when the Cyclops starts screaming, there's other Cyclops.
And they're saying, who's hurting you, who's hurting you to the Cyclops who got his eye,
because he got his eye stabbed.
what Odysseus did is they got him real drunk and he stabbed him in his one eye. So the guy's
blind and because he said his name was nobody, he's just screaming, nobody is hurting me. Nobody
is hurting me. So the cyclops, the other cyclops just leave because they're like, okay, he's
fine. So then Odysseus escapes tied beneath sheep because what happened was is the cyclops
couldn't, you know, the reason why they stabbed the cyclops in the eye, that he had moved
this huge boulder over the exit to their cave to Odysseus, his man in his cave. He was, he
so they needed a way to get out, even though the cyclops, they couldn't kill the Cyclops.
They just had to blind him.
And then he was feeling, Cyclops was feeling the sheep as they left the cave because he needed
to let a sheep out the next morning.
So he opened the cave.
And the Odysseus' men tied themselves to the bottom of the sheep.
So he would feel them and say, oh, that's a sheep, but it was really a guy.
Yeah.
So, but he made a fatal mistake there.
He brags and reveals his real name while he's sailing away.
And then Poseidon becomes his divine enemy because that was.
his son. And this is where the 10 years
to get home is going to come into play because he just makes
the seas bed. So
this is why this is the
ancient Greeks. Now this is the very interesting part.
The ancient Greeks sort of anthropomorphized and
personified
human psychology and the human experience.
And let me explain because I
find this very interesting. So this
whole journey is about being witty, being
smart, but then there's all these warnings
about like, hey, bragging, being
too arrogant or making these mistakes that he learns along the way that it's good.
So the Greeks believed it's good to be smart, but you have to be what they called humble.
You can't have what the Greek word hubris.
When you have hubris, it's a big flaw.
Right.
So Odicious displays these moments of hubris that actually turn these very smart tactics into more misery.
and that's why it takes so long to get home.
And he learns these lessons from these mistakes that he makes.
Now, this is what I find interesting.
The Greek gods, I never really understood the Greek gods till recently.
The Greek gods, what the Greeks understood was that people worship things.
Yes, right?
So people may not think they're worshipping something, but they're worshiping something.
So if you come across a guy who loves booze, who loves chaos, loves getting wild,
they would go, that guy worships Dionysi.
So they just personified the force.
Right.
The force, the motivation, the thing that the person loved, the Greeks basically said this.
We're built to, we're always going to be worshipping something.
Like humans worship things.
So you're either worshiping comfort, pride, comfort, drugs, lust.
So they took all these things.
And they personified them into gods because they recognized that these were big forces that were out there that dictated the way people smart behaved.
And then some of the gods were just natural forces in nature that they couldn't control.
So Poseidon, if you lived in an island that was very dependent on the sea, you would worship Poseidon because you'd be trying to get enough a lot of fish or if you felt like the wave was going to, you know, you'd want to be protected at sea.
So it was also gods that represented powerful things that were beyond human control.
Right.
So, but what was very interesting about the Greeks was that they, it was like psychology
masked as sort of theology.
And it made me think like, yeah, the Greeks were kind of smart in the sense that everyone,
like just to make it modern day, right?
You have your atheist now, you got your, you got your, you got your theists, you got whatever, right?
So an atheist goes, I don't believe in religion.
You go, really?
You look at Ricky Jervais, you go, what are you worshipping really?
Right.
Something.
You're worshipping your own smarts.
You're worshipping your own pride.
Right.
You're, I'm smarter than these idiots.
I know more than them.
Look at these ridiculous tales.
It's so stupid.
I love Ricky Jervat.
Yeah, but I'm just saying he's worship.
I love him too.
But there's, he's worshipping his own intellect.
He's worshipping the pride in himself.
We're all going to worship something.
We're all going to worship something.
Yeah.
And then you go at somebody else who's like,
mainly routine, like whatever it is, you go, you worship comfort.
So there's always a worship going on.
Right.
So, and the Greeks just personified.
There's someone who loves to get drunk, someone who likes to fuck.
You're like, you're giving into some powerful energy that you're worshipping whether
you admit it or not or you're conscious or not of it.
There's some powerful force that's driving you towards laying yourself at the author
of something.
Right.
So that's very smart the way that they handle that and make it, you know,
really cool to see.
Yeah, like Athena.
Oh, the goddum's a wisdom.
So it's some guy who's sitting there going,
you know, I need to figure this out.
It's like you're worshipping at the temple of Athena.
All right.
So let's go here.
Aphrodite was a peace.
Peace.
Yeah.
So if you go back, okay.
So then, so now we're traveling.
We're through this, you know,
after, after Odysseus gets,
announces himself to the Cyclops and does that kind of hubris thing.
things start to get dark from here, okay?
Because then we get to AOLUS and the bag of winds.
Sounds like a fart.
His crew thinks it's treasure, and they open up this bag containing these dangerous
winds that they thought was treasure, and then blows them all the way back across the sea.
The theme here is human stupidity ruins victory at the last second.
Then we have the less trigonians.
These are cannibal giants that destroy almost the entire fleet.
Only Odysseus' own ship survives.
The tone gets really, really dark from here.
Then we get to Cirque, the witch Circa.
She transforms Odysseus' men into pigs with help from Hermes.
Odysseus resists her magic.
They eventually become lovers and stay in the island for a year.
Cirque later helps him continue his journey home.
So this is the goddess that Odysseus banged.
Yeah.
Is Cirque, who looks like a piece in this painting.
Yeah.
And then he decides...
He decides...
To see the underworld after that.
Yeah, he resists her magic, yeah.
He resists her magic somehow.
Then they go to the journey to hell in the underworld.
He travels to the land of the dead and meets fallen warriors, his dead mother, these
spirits, and he learns suffering awaits him.
All humans die.
Glory means little in death.
The ghost of Achilles, aka Ellie Page, says...
It is wild.
He said he'd rather be a living peasant than king of the dead.
The line changes the heroic values of Greek mythology.
entirely. That is very interesting.
They're basically saying the afterlife ain't what you think
it is. Well, because that's the thing. Yeah, it's basically
saying, like,
the gods
get bored. And so
the gods live through us a lot because when
you're immortal, right, and this was a Greek
idea, but it's also kind of like an interesting
theological idea.
Like if you believe in a platonic
realm or, you know, an immortal
ram or immortal energy or a consciousness
beyond us, you'd say
what's the one weakness to that? The one
weakness would always be that there's no meaning. You have no struggle. Right. You have, you get bored.
You can't experience yourself. You can't. Right. You can't get the tingle. You can't get the tingle. You can't get that
tingle, which make no mistake. I live for a little thing called the tingle. Which brings us to the
Sirens. So this is your favorite part. So the Sirens or as we like to call them Chinese Honey Pot.
It's just what it is. The Sirens sing irresistible songs that lure sailors to their death. They
want it, they hear these songs and they want to bang these girls out.
Yeah. Sirens, I mean, for me, I just call them the Latinas.
I call them, love you long time. I think you're going, Odysseus, love you long time.
Pussy, pussy, love you long time.
So Odysseus wants to hear them without dying. So he plugs his crew's ears with earwax and then
he ties himself to the mass of the ship and they go through the straight of where the sirens are
and it becomes a symbol for resisting temptation through restraint. What Odysseus didn't know, though,
is the sirens, if you, if anybody got through and resisted them, then they have to kill themselves.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
So all the sirens killed themselves after that.
What we wanted to say to Odysseus at this time is there's an easier way.
It's called just get yourself in the program.
It's just what it is.
That's the only way to resist is the program.
Get yourself in the program.
Get yourself in the group text.
So then he gets through that.
Then we have Cilla and Carbidius.
Odysseus must sail between Cilia, which is a six-headed monster and Carbidius, which is a giant whirlpool.
He chooses the lesser evil and sacrifices.
Some men to save the ship.
Sometimes you've got to just sacrifice some people.
Sometimes you've got to do a little thing called saving private Ryan.
It's just what it is.
You've got to sacrifice some people.
And you know, you just whatever.
Yeah.
What is you get in the whirlpool or you get eaten by the monster.
But listen, Guy, I got to go.
I mean, I'm Odyssey.
Who the hell are you?
Yeah.
So basically the lesson here is sometimes leadership means you got to have some losses or some unavoidable losses.
You got to choose.
Basically, the only way out is it.
It's what it is.
So then the next thing is we have the cattle of Helios, despite warnings, Odysseus starving
crew. They told them on Helios, you cannot touch these cows. He goes, my guys are not going
to touch the cows, don't worry, but the crew's starving. So they kill the sacrifice cattle
belonging to the sun god Helios, and they start to eat them. So then Zeus gets pissed and
destroys their ship. Odysseus is now the sole survivor. Everybody's dead, but my man,
Odysseus. So then they go to Calypso, which sounds like a sandals resort in Jamaica, and they
keep Odysseus trapped on the island for years and they offer him immortality if he stays but he refuses.
The key idea being even eternal pleasure cannot replace home and human connection, which I think
is true.
Well, that's where he realizes, like I said, that paradise is sort of a hell because there's no meaning.
Right.
And so that's when he realizes, I want to be oditious.
I got to get back to my girl.
So then the third and final part is the return to Ithaca where he was setting out to go 20
years ago, with Athena's help, Odysseus finally returns home disguised as a beggar. He tests who is
loyal, he reconnects with his son, Tanamachus, and he plans revenge. Penelope creates a contest. Who can
string Odysseus's massive bow? None of the suitors can do it. Odysseus reveals himself and massacres the
suitors in one of the most violent scenes in Greek mythology, and order is restored. Yeah, he kills all the
guys that were vying for that Penelope pussy. Right. And he returns home. She hugs him. She grabs, she
waited 20 years for this guy. Right. So then they say that Odysseus, unlike the other mythic heroes who
rely mainly on strength, Odysseus survives to intelligence, deception, and adaptability as the first
Jewish man. I mean, first modern man, the first modern man. And he's complicated. He's heroic,
manipulative, traumatized, prideful. He's got a little PTSD from the war trauma. Many modern
scholars read the Odyssey as a story about returning home after war. Odysseus often feels emotionally
distant and paranoid. He can't really get, you know, his life kind of falls apart.
And then the monsters, they reflect these distorted versions of reality. Cyclops, lawless brutality,
Lotus Eaters, passive escapism, suitors, corruption within civilization itself. All these things
still happening today. Yeah, yeah, it's a real psychological tale. It's a tale about the human
experience. It's a tale about temptation. It's a tell about psychology. It's a tale about
meaning. It's a tale about
loyalty. It's a tale about
realism versus idealism.
It's a real
guide. It's a guide. With relationships
because it's like, you know, what does home mean? And it's also
everybody always says like if you've picked the right
relationship like it's going to be really, really hard, but you get the benefits
at the end of your life. Like, you know, like yeah, you want to run in
different posts right now. It's easy, these easy temptations.
These immediate, immediate gratifications. But if you delay the
gratification, that's when you really get the true pleasure. That's what they say. And it's a, it's a story
about ego, how it can lead you astray. It's a story about Averis. It's a story about, I think,
mostly self-discovery. Right. So he goes through all these trials. He goes through all these temptations.
He goes through all these mistakes and he realizes who he is and he chooses who he is.
Right. Because there was moments throughout it where he could have got off the course of who he
was, he could have become a God, a God's play thing, and experienced eternal sex and love and
never die and never get old. But essentially, that wasn't him. That ain't me, babe. So it's not me. He
realizes, this is me, babe. And me is with Penelope, babe. And me is being home in Ithaca and
ruling over this small little place. Right. And all these things that I thought maybe I wanted,
I didn't want because it's not me, babe. It's what, you know.
That story, it ain't me, babe.
Is that Sharon Sonny?
Yes, and then they got divorced.
And I'm going to go see this movie when it comes out.
I'm actually, this is the first movie I'm looking forward to in a long time since Barbie.
And this movie, and make absolutely no mistake, I'm going to try to go to a showing where it's just me in the theater because I'm absolutely going to move my monkey to Elliot Page.
Yeah.
Now, can we just end this episode by looking at a few of the trailers people have been making with Elliot Page?
And then, of course, we'll read out the members of the newest members of the Patreon.
but I would like to see some of these trailers.
Now, are these AI?
These are the trailers that the movie.
But listen, the internet, when I mean the internet,
there's people on the internet who are very, very funny.
Like, if you're going to do it, be funny.
Be funny.
Yeah, just don't repeat shit or be funny.
So this is like, I feel bad for Elliot Page in a way
because this is going to hurt her feelings.
She's just catching straight.
I don't think he cares anymore.
I don't think he cares at all.
But he's catching straight, but they're doing all these,
and they're putting Elliot Page.
So this isn't real.
No, of course it's not real.
So just, and everyone, she just gets absolutely beat the shit because she's in a male role.
Yeah.
So it's just, there's tons of them where, now look, do the Troy one.
This is funny.
Yeah.
This one, the second one, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Watch this.
So this is, this was with Brad Pitt.
You remember this is Troy?
Of course, yeah.
So here comes.
This is just so brutal.
show the ones where she has no shirt on and they have the scars under,
I mean, it's brutal.
Here's what her open up.
Oh, yeah.
She can't open the jar.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
There she is.
Yeah, it's just right.
Yeah.
It's just.
Unfortunately, I mean, really ripped, though.
Yeah, I mean, rip with the scars under the tits.
Yeah.
So they made, there's a few of them where she has.
no shirt on, they just, you can see the scars.
Now, does the actual trailer for the movie look good, though?
I haven't seen it.
Nick, have you seen the trailer for the movie?
You haven't seen it?
You're not into, because you're a movie guy.
You don't like this stuff?
I haven't seen it.
So this is exciting.
Let's see a minute.
Can we watch this without getting dinged on YouTube?
Is that all right?
Yeah, just let's not do it with so we don't get dinged.
We'll watch it afterwards.
Want to watch it on the Patreon?
I'd like to see it on the Patreon.
Well, we could get, well, we can't get dinged there, right?
I can't get dinged on the Patreon, no.
Yeah, it's, uh, it's interesting.
Now, just quickly, Jesse, do you think this was part of the plan?
It's an interesting theory.
I don't.
You know, I respect Christopher Nolan as an artist.
Like, why would he do that?
He's made so many good movies.
Like, he doesn't need to do that.
Right.
It's like a propaganda stunt to cast her as...
You think he did?
Although it is kind of suspicious.
Why would he cast her as Achilles?
You know, there are so many fucking, like...
So many actors.
Bad-ass actors that he could have kept, you know?
Yeah.
I mean, who knows these days?
But, I mean, it could just be a family-friend thing.
Like it could be like, I'm my daughter's friends with him.
This movie's going to be huge though.
Oh, dude.
It's going to crush in the body.
I never.
There's no doubt that we're talking about it because of that.
Yeah.
Everyone is talking about it.
It's a big propaganda push and movies are in trouble.
So maybe.
Maybe.
It's interesting.
Tell us what you think in the comment section.
Yeah.
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So leading off the list, lifeguard on duty at Epstein Island.
Put them on the list.
Really?
That is so inventive.
Interesting.
Yeah, that is very inventive.
Okay, so we might have a, we might have, this is the LeBron Jains.
Okay.
Came out early, could win.
Crofts, Crop circles.
Drexler.
Okay.
Ooh, strong, out the gate.
Noah S.
Then we got Jeffrey like his Jis Lane's waxed well.
Pretty good.
I'm going to Drexler it.
Okay.
Fernandez, Ferdinand Berthelsog Abagnayan.
Then we got Jesus Israel and hates frisbees.
Wait a second.
It's really funny though.
For the end of the year.
Yeah.
Tony, that's for the end of the year.
Jesus is real and hates frisbee's.
Very good.
Tristan Huxable.
Then we got cacao, Chrissy's strip club.
Oh, cockow.
Cockow.
That's what it is.
They got you.
I love how they get you.
Yeah, Tony, that's for the end of the year.
Cousy-Wazzie, come on my tummy next to my mummy.
So he's laying with his mom?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay, we just can't do that.
Can't do it.
Then we got Justin, make no mistake.
I'm a real black kid, but I'm using more than one name Cummings.
Drexler.
Strong list.
Then we got Jaybaby Two Trail, Ronnie Wrong Days.
Way song she ain't.
Drexler.
Ronnie wrong day.
That's me.
Yachty.
Yeah.
What do you think, Drexler?
Yeah, yeah, Drexler.
Then we got Jamal, the Dallas Maverie Stevenson.
Then we got Need a Quick H-H hiatus so we can start the Third Reich.
And then we got God gave Helen Keller a working fume detector.
Latter 14.
This is a guy, Tony, for all these.
Caitlin Jenner's driving instructor.
Oh, Jesus.
Drexler, good one.
She killed the guy.
Yeah.
Then we got drove through the hood and my car got a couple of dings drove through again and now a couple of things got my car.
Laddivore,
what it is.
This is a whole, this is a walked into one list.
Sometimes that happens.
Yeah, and these are all good though.
And the thing is we don't choose the list.
The list chooses us.
So Tony, you got your work cut out for you.
Then we got white guy named John Henry, wish I was Leroy from Waste Down.
Got it.
Tiger Maximus, Ian O'Brien, Mr. A Z.T, Ballyphemus, and Odellee.
Odysis puss.
Wow, that's crazy that we're talking about the odd.
Well, it's the hugest thing right now.
Everyone's talking about it.
Yeah.
It's like the hugest thing on the internet.
Valley Femis and Odysseus.
Charlie Azad, Evan Lee.
I like my coffee Leroy and my tea, Roy Lee.
What am I missing there?
Roy Lee.
Like coffee Leroy and then, because it's, you know, coffee black.
And then my tea, Roy Lee, because Asian tea.
Roy Lee.
Got it, got it.
Yeah.
Not bad.
Yeah, it's catchy.
Reaper of Mars.
Ricardo, not a mussy, but I will put my face in her rug.
Decent one.
Decent.
Chicken finger.
Yeah, chicken finger.
Larry Nassar's receptionist talking about mental gymnastics.
Oh, Larry Nassar's receptionist, talk about mental gymnastics.
Got it.
Talk about mental gymnastics.
Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tried for it.
He went for it.
Luis Fernando Martinez-Leon.
Wow.
That's what it is.
Saucer monkey.
That's what you call ice feldcro.
it is. Nick went pioning on that one. Yeah. Then we got bong hits from the...
Jesus.
Jesus. Jesus. This is a very... walked into one list.
On this episode, Chrissy talks to Josephine's trainer on which one of his very old closets he should come out of.
Right. Directly.
Sof. Then we got my girl uses my nuts as a scratch and sniff.
Chicken figure. Then we got AOC. Please fist my asshole until I'm parallel.
Just what is.
I'm gonna put it on the list.
All right, why not?
Just because it's so funny.
Yeah, it's just very funny.
It's time to criminalize being a wigger.
Okay.
Small scrabble fingers,
a.k. Squeak Squad, employee, Sandra D.
Okay.
Western Hemmy-Muzzy with a hairy hummus hose.
Hummus hose.
Hummus hose.
You're not winning, but welcome to the lexicon.
Like hummus cannon.
Yeah, hummus hose.
Yeah, like it.
Sam Wise.
Andrea.
Uncle Russell.
Uncle Russell's
Oh, Jesus Christ
Yeah, can't disparage your family
Yeah, can't do it
Not the demo
Then we got Timmy Riley
Blake Weinstein
Then we got Portnoy takes one bite
So he can sell the rest
Way song she ain't
I don't get it
He's a Jew
Oh he takes two bites
He can sell the rest
Yeah, I got it
Uh
Can Janice's wife
Tell Chrissy to stop
yawning on the pod. I don't get it.
Appliance Dodger.
Amin Kahnpour.
Then we got Shakespeare presents
George Frenzy, okay.
Lad of 14. Can you read that again?
Shakespeare
Present
An all frenzy. I don't get it.
Ashley Miller, Lane 23,
Billy redistributing
diva cups at AOC's fume shelter
for lost squeaks and battered ginger snaps.
Very, okay, went for a lot.
In the ask tonight by $3 Bill Collins
Put them on the list
Okay
Put him on the list
In the last
Tonight
Put a contender
Yeah
In the eye
Yeah
It's very funny
Instead of the air today
Yeah
Put him on the list
Very very funny
Adam Brabant
Sun Jew's art of more
Okay
Sun Jews is that one
Hmm
Uh
Another Jewish joke
What is it
Sun Tsu Art of War
Sun Jew art of more
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Babe, the glucose monitor says my sugar is low,
so put your pump in and fill my tank up.
Okay.
Ace Hawk, Daniel Stelini, Bushlight and Fireball,
Alec Wolfgang, Miles M, Brandon C,
hold on, pause the podcast, I just shit my pants.
Okay.
Alicia, Ben Bratton,
scared of Mike Obama's last spread,
but want to drown in seven inches.
Yeah, the last.
Lake, yeah. Okay. Mike Obama.
Mike Obama on its own, might have won.
Michael Obama. Just Mike Obama. Yeah, just Mike Obama is very funny.
Ryan, Joe, Danny Cardozo. My ALS makes for a challenging wank, call me gluggerig.
Okay.
We're putting it up. What do we do? Put it on the list.
Yeah, I mean, if they really have ALS, I mean, they're making the best of it.
Yeah, but you know, we're hypocrites because we're very sensitive about racial stuff, but then, like, the disabled sphere game.
I mean, yeah.
What are we supposed to do here?
Or if the kid has ALS, then we don't know.
Maybe he's got ALS.
That's why we put it on a list and maybe the kid has ALS.
I mean, because you know what?
Technically that's one of the best ones of all time.
Yeah.
Leroy's boneless jungle ham, aka watermelon.
Okay?
Oh, Jesus.
Jesus.
Okay.
I don't know.
I mean, this.
Jesus Christ.
Tony, just put this whole list.
It was at the end of the year.
At the end of the.
Jesus Christ.
Justice.
cracking up hard.
Andrew Falconeer.
My Tourette's flares up in East New York,
a.k.
LeRoy ticks.
This whole list
is for the fucking walk in a one.
Crouching Tiger
Hidden Judin,
aka the Diary of Chan Frank.
Lad of 14.
Hidden Judin.
Guys,
what do you want to do?
I mean, we got to put it out the end of the year.
Crouching Tiger hidden you did the Diary of Chanfranckes.
Frank, yeah.
I mean, it deserves to be on the list.
So then put it on the list.
But it's also a walked into one.
Put it on the list.
Crouching Tiger hitting Uden is very funny.
Kyle Ramos, Matthew Gornierno, Preston, Brett Gloucowski,
twerk, wind and fire.
Chicken finger.
Yeah.
Oil money house, call it a sand castle.
Matt Riemannowski, Jeff Simpson.
Will peptides fix my crooked piece?
Chicken figure
Deep throat
Cuckboat
Lake Monkey
Sick of all the Somali
Pirates
Move to the keys
And all I got was a peptide
Induced Domestic Violence Charge
Shouldn't hit women guy
Yeah
Jacob Ponce
Jason Locke
Dakota Wiggins
Asian pirate
I don't steal treasure
I fry plane
Way song
She ain
End of the year
Yeah
Then we got Cardinal George Pell, Marcus Dillon, and Sebastian Miles, and Adam Moreno.
Welcome, all those other buys.
We want you to know if you just give your name, you're straight to the back, you're here for the business,
and we appreciate you just as much.
Just as much.
Okay, so here's the list.
Yeah.
Lifeguard on duty at Epstein's Island.
We're going to Drexer that right off the back.
Okay, so we know that.
Then we got AOC.
Please Fist My Asshole until I'm paralyzed.
I want to keep that around for the funny factor.
Keep it around.
Then we got In the Ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins.
Keep it around.
Okay.
And then we have Crouching Tiger.
Hidden Judin, aka the Diary of Chan Frank.
Oh, and we also have my ALS makes for a challenging Wang,
call me Glugherick.
Keep that around. We got four.
Chan Frank, keep around as well?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes. Okay.
So it's between AOC, please fist my asshole until I'm paralyzed.
In the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins.
My ALS makes for a challenging Wang, call me glugherig,
or Crouching Tiger Hidden Judin,
aka the Diary of Chan Frank.
All four of these speak to me.
All four of these speak to me.
Okay.
So this is tough, and we're going to have to, this is going to have to be made as a group.
Okay.
There's no clear winner here.
So for me, because it caught me late, I like In the Ask Tonight by $3 Bill Collins.
I think a $3 bill one is really, really hard to get, and that's one.
In The Ask Tonight is very funny.
In The Ask Tonight by Phil Collins who would have won.
Yes.
So that's my pick.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I like In The Aast Tonight.
I can hear the soundtrack going, but I'm going with Gluggerig.
Gluggerick.
Not a strong one.
Nick?
Um, yeah, I like Chan Frank and Ask Tonight also.
Okay.
Whoa.
Whoa. So it's down to me.
Whoa.
So we have a vote.
We have two votes for In the Ass tonight.
No, no. He went.
Ask tonight and Chan Frank vote.
But you have to pick one.
Which one you have to pick?
Yeah.
Ass.
In the ass tonight.
It's got two votes.
So it's up to still down to me.
Still down to you because he didn't pick that one.
He picked Glugheric.
Glou garrik.
So if you pick in the ass tonight.
So these are three different ones.
Well, in the ass tonight has two votes.
If you gave it a third vote, it wins.
if you give gluggarag both are tied and we gotta go to the people can you read them one more time okay
aOC please fist my asshole until i'm paralyzed okay we're gonna directs to that okay yeah in the ass tonight
by three dollar bill collins keeping it around my a ls makes for a challenging wangk called me gluggerig
or crouching tiger hidden juden aka the diary of chan frank all right i'm gonna fuck this up okay i'm going with
who'd you pick gluggarg i'm going with gluggerick okay so we're tied so we have a time
Yeah.
Now, that's the best one.
The fans, you have to go to patreon.com slash history hyenas.
Is it my ALS makes for a challenging Wang Colmy Glugerig or in the ass tonight by $3 Bill Collins?
Those are the contenders.
Now, people have been saying, is there a way to put a poll up somewhere?
Can we do that?
Is there a way?
There's got to be a way.
Is there a way on Patreon to do that?
Or we could just make a separate post and I guess everyone would vote there.
No, but they're saying there's a poll way to do a way.
poll. But if the separate post
is that, because they say then it gets lost in the
comments and the messages, and so let's
think of a cleaner way to do it. We'll figure it out.
We'll do a poll. I think there's a way to do a poll.
Okay. Yeah. Patreon.com slash
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