History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - Vote w Your Feet | History Hyenas

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

This week on History Hyenas, Chrissy Chaos and Yanni Long Days dive into one of the greatest political rivalries in American history: Thomas Jefferson vs. Alexander Hamilton. Was America supposed t...o be run by powerful states or a powerful federal government? Jefferson believed local governments knew best and fought for states' rights, while Hamilton pushed for a strong central government, a national bank, and a unified economic system. The Hyenas break down how this centuries-old debate still shapes America today. From tax breaks in Texas and Florida to corporate incentives in Tennessee and North Carolina, states are still competing against each other for businesses, jobs, and residents. Is that Jefferson's vision in action, or would Hamilton say the federal government should be calling the shots? The boys connect the Founding Fathers to modern politics, economic competition, and the never-ending battle over who should hold the power in America. #HistoryHyenas #ThomasJefferson #AlexanderHamilton #FoundingFathers #AmericanHistory #StatesRights #Federalism #Politics #USHistory #HistoryPodcast #YannisPappas #chrisdistefano Support our sponsors: To explore coverage, visit https://ASPCApetinsurance.com/HYENAS The ASPCA® is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance Right now, when you buy two months of BlueChew Gold, you get the third for FREE with promo code HYENAS. Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://quince.com/hyenas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Join our Patreon at 👇 https://www.patreon.com/historyhyenas/ Subscribe to the poddy woddy Our YouTube!: https://bit.ly/2ARdDOz HH Clips:https://bit.ly/2YaK2Z8 iTunes: https://apple.co/2UQTHCc Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3fxtsc0 Hyenas Merch!!! https://store.historyhyenaspod.com Follow us Cuz! 🙆🏻‍♂️ Yannis Pappas Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/yannispappas Website - https://www.yannispappascomedy.com/ 🙆🏼‍♂️ Chris Distefano Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/chrisdcomedy/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/chrisdcomedy Website - https://www.chrisdcomedy.com/ 🐕More Hyenas Website: www.historyhyenasisback.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/historyhyenas/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/HistoryHyenas Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/historyhyenaspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:22 Do it for your family. And do it for our families. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of History Hyenas. I'm Chris Stefano, aka Chrissy D. With me, as always, Yonis Pompas, aka Yanni Pee-B. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:03:04 You didn't have something geared up for that? I didn't have something geared up. AKA Chrissy D. I know, because we just got smacked in the face by two Israeli titties. So I'm a little concussed because we had a snoozer of a Patreon. Go to patreon.com. I just trying in.
Starting point is 00:03:20 But make absolutely no mistake, we got smacked in the face by some jute tits. What? I'm going to tease it like this for the internet. We find out what happened to Charlie Kirk. Yeah. Go get patreon.com slash history a heat is to get to the bottom of it. Yeah, it's just go over there.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I mean, it's one of those things where we're just breathing a sigh of relief that that's over. The thing is this, the thing is this is Jewish people, you know, we love them so much. We love our Jewish brothers and sisters. We love our Muslim brothers and sisters. They're very persistent. And I think what's happened is because of my heritage, because of Germany, you know, being from German, I think I've just happened in my DNA to be able to somehow evade the Jew where you cannot because she tried to come at me to get on the show and I was able to evade, but then she caught you big.
Starting point is 00:04:02 They just will keep they're very pushing. She said actually in the Bible, I didn't know that. It says it in the Bible that they're very pushy people. Right. Remember she said in the Bible? Stiffnecked. Yeah. And I was like, boy, did someone nail that.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. Because I guess stiff neck, if you translate it from the original Aramaic, probably that like really fucking annoying. I do like her. It was a nice guy. Everything's great. Everything's great. I love everyone in the world. I love that they are who they are.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I enjoy it like a comedy. Like I like the different personalities. I love the differences. You've got to be into this life for the drama that it is. Be who you want to be. I respect that. Be you, girl. Do it bitch.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Whatever it is. The Knicks are in the finals. Things can't be that bad. Because the Knicks are in the finals. I had my bachelor party on Saturday. Which I didn't attend because my. because my daughter, it was her birthday. Otherwise, I would have been in attendance.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I mean, it was a good, good time. It was the perfect bachelor party for me. We went to this place Lucky Charlie's in Brooklyn because if you want to go to a new spot in Bushwick, Lucky Charlies, they have a coal oven in there from 1890. Ooh. A coal oven that was built. It was built by German immigrants in 1890. It's the biggest coal oven in the northeast.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So it was very fun for me to ask which one of my friends. Live 40s. Because the oven goes back a full city block. I've never seen an oven as big as this oven. And it's wild because this place is about 10 minutes from where I grew up in Ridgewood. And they got taken over. And I'm telling you, I had one of the best meals I've ever had. They gave us a dope experience in the back of this restaurant.
Starting point is 00:05:38 They gave us a private room. But that's also where the chef's apartment is. So the chef was cooking for us on his personal home stove for me and the other 10 guys. We had a magician there. A magician came in and was doing sick car tricks. And we ate and drank, and it was just me and 12. You're a magician at your adult party? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And we had 12 guys come in, do magic tricks. I mean, we had a magician come in. He did magic tricks for all of us. We ate pizza. The chef gave us all this food, all this Sicilian beer and wine that they made. This guy, Nino was amazing at Lucky Charles. Then he threw on the Thunder Spurs game seven. We watched that.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And by 11 o'clock, I was on my way home. By 1145, I was in bed, baby. And I had a great batch. Did Debo get the booster seat? Debo got the booster seat. And Debo is the only one who stayed because there was a couple of cute in the back. Did you, when you walk in to go to dinner with Debo, do you say like we do with our daughters,
Starting point is 00:06:28 you say high chair or booster, do you go for what you make a decision? Yeah, and the thing is with Debo's because a lot of these guys were hungry and I got one for it who's really fat. The problem is Debo looks like an appetizer. Because I'm telling you, lucky Charlie's, this place will blow your mind. The food was incredible. And I'm not, you know, I'm not. Who picked it?
Starting point is 00:06:46 Emilio. How did he find it? Somehow he found it. I don't know. He hung out there like a month ago. He was like, you're going to love this place. And I'm telling you, it's the kind of place. Now, listen, it's not too far from my ma.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So it'd be nice to go see Ma, but it's one of these places that I will find myself going into probably once a month just to eat and hang out. You know, like those how we grew up in like, you know, Brooklyn, Queens, those old school joints. That's what it's like. Because I want you to take me there. I'm going to take you there. I want you to take me out. I want to take you out. You got to see this oven.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And this guy, Nino, is great. He'll just show you the oven. Yeah. He likes to show people the oven. it. And then we were in the backyard. We were in the backyard. They had like a little private backyard back there. And then the magician came in and the guy and the magician got paid and he's doing magic tricks, adult magic
Starting point is 00:07:31 tricks or whatever. And then the guy Nino has a three-year-old daughter. He goes, you got to do some tricks from my daughter. And then he goes, the guy's like, well, I don't have anything like the kids would understand. He goes, my daughter's going to sit down and you can do some tricks for her. And it was great. And he was just a fun guy. It seems like a real fun place. How are they doing over there at Lucky Charlie? Well, they just opened like 10 months ago, but I mean, you got to wait two hours for a table. Oh, they're doing good.
Starting point is 00:07:52 They're doing good. Yeah, scroll down, scroll down. Yeah, say, play this, play this clip Instagram, like, just hear this guy's voice. He's a real fucking, you know what I mean? Fucking Calzone. What are you doing? You fucking bother me? I'm fucking busy over here. I got people waiting. It's from Gravesend.
Starting point is 00:08:08 We're going to make some pizza a little bit. Looks really good. No, it's delicious, bro. Yeah. You know. We need a history. We need a history. behind his table over there. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:08:22 You know, you drink while you work? Yo, I do it for the juice, kid. That's why I do the whole fucking shit. I do it for the juice. For the juice? For the juice. Oh, the juice. Mr. Brocolino or Sicilian.
Starting point is 00:08:33 How are you doing? Get the fuck out of you. Dude, he made this Sicilian dish. It was like, they almost looked like spaghettios, but it was some kind of pasta. And they had like a baked, like top on it, like a pie. and it was just one of the best things I ever had. He makes certain dishes he makes. He's like, you can only get this shit in Sicily.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Right. It's next level, because you missed a good party, but you had to go to your daughter's birthday party. I was at my daughter's birthday party on Saturday. You were eating real SpaghettiOs. I was eating real SpaghettiOs. You know, I'm sorry, I missed it, but I think we should do, we should take the crew over there for a little bite. Because it's in Bushwick. It's in Bushwick on Irving Avenue, so it'd be nice to go over there.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, because there's a lot. We may just get a studio in Bushwick just to move it so we're closer to this restaurant. Yeah, and I'll tell you another thing, if the waitresses are hot. Yes, so then we're going. The witches are hot and all those kind of like hipstery white girls with like little tattoos all over them that probably have fumes, but I'll bang them out anyway. I like it. Those are the type of girls that give Graham K syphilis and I like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Does he have syphi? He's had it a few times. It's just getting syphilis is very old school. It's very funny to get syphilis. It's very funny to get syphilis. Now, you know. You got the burn a few times. Yeah, I got the burn.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But I got chlamydia. I never got syphilis. You got chlamydia. Yeah, but it's nice to have the voucher parties to the weddings in about two, three weeks. And make absolutely no mistake. I'm still looking for a dismay patch. I just want to bring this up before we get into this because I'm very curious about it. This tick issue, I believe something's going on.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I believe something's going on. I believe we're going to have to start dealing with some of these bioterrorism things. And I believe that it's either vegans doing this or the good old CCP. Right. But something is going on where ticks are just everywhere. and now people are getting bit by these lone star ticks and the ticks are giving people this this allergy to meat
Starting point is 00:10:22 and so that's why there's a conspiracy theory that this is vegans and animal rights activists doing this and I want to... It's a real thing. It's a big news and they're all over the place and it's just something's unnatural about it. I mean, they are all over the place. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:38 People have never seen this many ticks across the United States and they're in places that they didn't used to be to this level. But what's the allergic reaction to red meat and dairy? Something happens where you get some bacteria from them. You know, because limes is not the only thing you can get from ticks. They carry a bunch of different pantheons.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Is that what they called? Pathogens. Tics, they're little fucks. They're little fuchs. It's what they are. They're little fuchs. I don't like ticks at all. I don't like them a fucking all.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Call the guy a tick would be funny. He's a fucking tick. He's a drip and he's a tick. He's a tick. Yeah, I don't like it. Nick the tick. Yeah, Nick the tick. Ticks are, yeah, because now it's like, yeah, my daughter had a tick in her head a month ago, and I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's really bad. But jazz got it out. They're really dangerous. You got to get them out before 24 hours. That's why it's always important to check your kids because all these diseases take 24 hours. So if you can get the tick off within the 24 hours, you're good. And you got to your dog. You got to get your dog check your dog for ticks.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, you talk. Because ticks will get on your dog. You give the dog the internal medication. You give them the collar. You should be good. Even if they bite, they die. The thing is the problem, these nymphs are so small, they're the size of a goddamn poppy seed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So you can't see these things. So, I mean, there's nothing we can do against these things. And this year, supposedly, this is happening so fast, but people are starting to suspect that there's something nefarious going on. Like, that there's just so many that it just seems unnatural. It seems like, and there was this one instance where they found a briefcase full of tick somewhere, Jesse, if you look. Really? Yeah, they found a brief, like it's. very suspicious stuff going on with these ticks.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And so it's like, it's this intentionally being done. And I am of, I am of the conspiracy that it is. Yeah, I mean, I don't like that. I don't like seeing ticks. And listen, if there's going to be, here's the thing, because what we want to talk about today is Thomas Jefferson in state's rights. And if this state is not going to get its ticks under control, then I'll move it to another state.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That's right. This is a very interesting topic we're going to talk about today. we're talking about the United States of America and why it is the United States. People often forget that it is the United States of America, meaning each state is kind of like its own country. Yes. And ultimately, you have to admit that's been a good thing because it keeps the balance. You see how hard it is to unite places. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Europe. It's hard, right? Of course, they got all the different cultures and languages and stuff like that, you know, but the USSR. Everyone tries. But the United States, South America couldn't do it. And we had an episode about that. You had a very viral clip on that. Yeah. We have theories of why that didn't work.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. But in the United States, and the United States, it's worked. And it was because of this, you know, fundamental disagreement between Thomas Jefferson and the federalists who were Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay. Yeah. Which became a school where kids would beat you up. It's just what it is. And so now what you're seeing is because Thomas Jefferson,
Starting point is 00:13:44 wanted this, he said that having states' rights would create a competitive... And he wanted to keep his slaves. It's just what it is. He had 600 slaves. He had 600 slaves. And the kid also lived a life of luxury, spent a lot of money. He liked toots and bruise. And he liked toots, bruise and he likes slave poos puss. But you know the kid was
Starting point is 00:14:02 Thomas Jefferson, the kid was from the first family of one of Virginia's first families. I mean, the kid was rich, rich, rich. He was really rich. He was like a Vanderbilt. Yes. And he was over a Monticello and he liked to bang out his slaves. Big. Sally Hemmings got banged out. Big.
Starting point is 00:14:17 There's some. And she was underage. She was underage. And there's just some, there are some progeny walking around who look like Derek Jeter, who are related to Thomas Jefferson. And it's S. Lo. K. S. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And he was, Jefferson and his allies formed the Democratic Republican Party, which is cute, cute. So you don't know what they were. They're Democrats and Republicans. But the thing that he said was, was Jefferson. was Jefferson, was Jefferson, he said that, you know, states rights, you know, you having each state compete with each other is better for my mulatto slaves, pusses tight. It's what it is and it probably was. Because he was, because now what's happening is, you know, all these stories where like everybody's just leave, you know, they say the wealthy are living in New York to go to Florida, you know, to other southern states. And so this problem, Jefferson foresaw this problem.
Starting point is 00:15:06 He said, if you don't have states competing with each other, then the wealthy are just going to pick up and leave and your nation's going to begin to crumble. So you start to look at it and say it makes sense. Like now you're at, now, like we live in theoretically in New York the way we get, the way people get taxed. Or you live in a different country than if you live in Florida, you know, you just do. Like this, it's, you can't, you can't sugarcoat it anymore. The really wealthy people, like multi, multi, multi, multi millionaires, it doesn't make any sense for them to live in New York or California. It just doesn't anymore. It makes more sense for them to live in Florida and they can come to New York.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And so that needs to change because Jefferson was saying, because he was all about state's rights, that the whole idea of if states, state competitive with each other and they all have little advantages and disadvantages, it'll make the national product that much better, where now you're going to just have, you know, it get lopsided, and everything is going to go to Florida and New York's going to suffer. And that's going to make our country hurt. Right. I mean, I think they both had good points. And I think the mix of the two created the greatest country that the world has ever known. you know, Alexander Hamilton and Madison and John Jay were like, you need a strong federal government to become a national powerhouse. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So they were thinking about the economics. And I think Jefferson was thinking more about like the governance of it going like you need to have, you can't have an overarching ruler over all these local places that are very different. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And that's going to foster rebellion and things like that. So you've got to allow places to rule themselves, locally because people are different, cultures are different, economies are different, and this is the best way to make this work and for everyone to get along. And I think ultimately that's what's happened. People think there's going to be a civil war. People think we're going to break up. It's not going to happen because both these guys have great points and we live in the compromise of the two of them,
Starting point is 00:17:04 right? Right. So it's like we would have a civil war if you didn't have options, right? So if you couldn't move to Florida or if you didn't like abortion laws here, which is a problem, you know, with the federalists is when like, I'm sorry, with the state's rights is when like you start taking away people's rights and stuff like that. There's weaknesses on both sides. But you can move someplace else. You can go, I'm going to move here where it's more like what I like. Right. You know? And so you need that. You can't just go, hey, this is the right way. This is the wrong way. People are different. People got different cultures. People have different beliefs. And if we're going to make this experiment work, we got to have a balance of both. We can have a
Starting point is 00:17:39 And these slave-owning white men figured it out. They really did. They said, all men are free, except for my slaves. It's what it is, because they said it was very interesting that Thomas Jefferson, when they were writing, you know, when he was writing a Declaration of Independence, I mean, he was just surrounded by slaves and he would openly read the document out to his friends. And he's talking about how everyone's free and everyone has rights to be free except the people standing in the corners. He was one of the authors, and I think he actually penned the line, All Men are Created Equal. It's what it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It is all what it is. He goes, All men are created equal. Some of them are in my employment for no payment. Yeah, it's just against their will. Against their will. And Salon Hamings getting banged out. Now here's the thing, though, James Madison, John Jay and Alexander Hamilton. See, this is the thing when you hear like these kids now go like, these slave-owning white men, they were against slavery.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. I think James Madison only had one any freedom. Right. But they were all very against slavery. The other two, no, John Jay had the fewest, I think. Right. And Madison only had like a few. And Alexander Hamilton freed his.
Starting point is 00:18:38 but they were all wrote against slavery and they hated it and they didn't want it. Right. So it's like, you know, not everyone was the same. Right. So these guys wanted to get rid of it and that was, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:49 a hundred plus years before it happened or a hundred years before it happened. So it's like, you know, people aren't the same. No. We're not, we're very different. Just like we found out from our guests. We're all different.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, we're all different. And, you know, we'll say it again. The patron is a snoozer. So what, you need to, you know, you can zoom in on them tities, but the Patriots is snoozer. So we're not going to sugarcoat it. It's a snoozy-wozy.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And it's the first time in the history of the show where our producer Nick yelled at us about it. And the thing is, ironically, he said never again. And I was like, well, that's her people. That's her people. And the truth is, is I had no rebuttal because Nick's right. So, you know, it's one thing if somebody steps out of line and they say, but I said, Nick, I concur, my friend. But I absolutely, if I single, we'd have to tackle all this.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Well, cackle all that. Yeah, if you scroll down a little bit, Jesse. So, yeah. So, you know, here's the thing about Jefferson is the kid was just a, he was a bit of a conundrum because he's saying, you know, everybody'd be free except the slaves. And then he also says, states rights, states rights. But when, you know, when it worked for him to expand the federal power,
Starting point is 00:20:04 that's what he did. Like, you know, Louisiana Purchase, he was just like, listen. Yeah. I know I said everything about states rights, but I'm just going to get the government galvanized. We're buying Louisiana. We're just buying it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's, he also, he was morally opposed to it in his writings, though. Yeah, at least. So it was a complicated thing. Yeah, I mean, what a nice guy. But, you know, it was a different time. So it was like slavery, it was just, it's what was happening around you. Right. So it was like.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Why is your phone going off? What is that? People, so probably my brother just constantly calling in. It's just what it is. Yeah, I mean, a kid just calls over and over and over and over again. And it's just what it is. Now, what would your brother do if you saw them tities? Which one?
Starting point is 00:20:42 My oldest one? My oldest brother? Yeah, I know. He would just be look at her outfit. Yeah. No, your oldest brother would try to get in there. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, he tried to get in there.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. Yeah, he cheated on his girlfriend. Did he? Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. He did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:58 He caused big thing up there. It's what it is. Yeah. And her family was very mad at it. It's just what it is. And he said, hey, what are you got to do? I got to get this noodle wet. Yeah, it's just what is.
Starting point is 00:21:05 The student's not going to wet it. She's not going to answer. Yeah. That's very funny. Yeah. So this is an interesting topic because it's happening now. Like it keeps the country dynamic. So it never gets stagnant.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Like you said, there's competition on different policies in different states and people can vote with their feet, which keeps, you know, it gives people options when they feel like they don't like something. Vote with the feet mean they can move. Yeah. That's an expression saying people vote with their feet. Right. So if, you know, you see like Detroit, right? Like a lot of people don't know, yes, the auto industry left. But then what happened is it became heavily regulated place.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And there was, you know, it became very left wing, so to speak. Right, right, right. I'm just trying to figure out what to say it. And the city got destroyed. You know, Seattle right now is fucking 35% empty commercial, really. estate in Seattle. And the new mayor just said, they were like, what do you think about these businesses leaving? She went, bye, and like, they pissed people off.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Mom, Dami's doing the same thing. Sometimes, you know, inequality gets too much. Right. Bring it a little socialism, and that helps. So, you know, you can move. It's dynamic. And that's the thing about capitalism with all its flaws is it's dynamic. So is this sort of arrangement of states' rights is it keeps things dynamic.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Right. Another place gets hot. I mean, Tennessee's bubbling right now. Nashville's hot. Miami's hot. You know, um, uh, Austin's hot. Like, different cities that were like not hot have become hot. And New York, unfortunately, is experiencing a massive exodus. So what can New York do? Is there any, can New York all of a sudden, like, with states right stuff? Can New York all of a sudden say, okay, we're going to lower our taxes or they can't do that? Well, here's the thing about New York. New York is interesting because New York has New York City. So it's, it's, New York is really about New York City. Right. Right. It's like New York's about the governor of New York, the state.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's like really you're the governor. Everyone's the governor in New York City. It's like as important as anything in the country. So it's a very, it's a very complicated thing because you've got a lot of people here. Everyone wants to be here. You have people who are a little more working class, but you also have the richest people here. Right. And we already have the highest taxes, I think, in the country.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. most progressive tax rate in the country, the highest taxes on rich people. So, Momdami's saying we need to do more of that, even more to fix it. And then people on the other side are going like, they do that over there. In Los Angeles, it's not working. It's not, you still have a homeless problem. You still have inequality, and you've raised taxes. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:23:53 We need to cut spending. And then some people who say that this doesn't work, you're not going to take my taxes. What they do is they move to North Carolina. North Carolina is popping now. Right. So you don't know. You don't know. Maybe mom, Dami will work. It's not going too long term. I can almost guarantee you that. Sure. It's always a short term little, and then it long term. Long term. Yeah. Socialism's too static. And the thing is if, you know, for people that don't know, like Texas and Florida have no state income tax. So, you know, California, New York, you know, every, you know, you make money, whatever tax you're in, you have to basically pay a rental fee to the state of New York for working and living here. That's basically what that is. And Texas and Florida don't have that. Well, they make it up in. So, you know, they make it up in. sales tax and other taxes, but the net tax burden is much less in those places.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Right. That's the thing. It's like, you know, you could take the numbers and it's like, okay, you have to pay a little bit more taxes for alcohol and food in Florida, but that doesn't equal, you know, think about an income tax for a multi, multi-millionaire. It doesn't equal anything close to that. Right. So, yeah. What I like about it, too, is it's like there's always rhetoric. There's always rhetoric. There's always people have their positions. But what this system enables is that this cuts through all the rhetoric. People will go, hey, it's good, it's bad. You just go, here's the numbers of the out-net migration.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Here is the middle credit. You just go, people are voting with their feet. So no matter what you're saying, or you're saying on both sides, these are the results. Right. Your tax base is dwindling because you're losing all these middle-to-upper-income people. And that, so New York City has lost billions and billions and dollars of tax revenue because of the cost of living and more so.
Starting point is 00:25:31 pull this is because of the level of taxes. Because it's at the end of the day, what's the universal language? Numbers. Numbers and math. Okay. It's the same, you know, very microcosmic way. It's the same story, you know, with like managers and agents of the entertainment business. You say to yourself, you know, the manager wants to take 10% and you say, okay, well, I've been with you for five years. Here's the amount of money. Here's the amount of money that I've given you. What is the amount of money you've made me? Right. And then when they see the number of Numbers. It's hard to deal with it. It's hard to make. All you got to do is show it in Numbers. So the, so the, so the billionaire say, if I go to the other state, I'm going to, I'm going to keep this much more of my money. Those are in Numbers. Those are the numbers. So I have to, and then people say, well, then people say, well, how can, you know, people have so much money, you know, they should spread it around a little bit. It's like, guy, they already do pay tax. Billionaires already do pay taxes. They pay a lot of taxes. The problem that nobody wants to admit is usually, if you're
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Starting point is 00:29:50 Right. So it's really like this talking point of like white male billionaires. Sure. Because there's like, are you talking, like, so AOC, are you mad at LeBron? Why don't you bring, why aren't you mad at LeBron? Yeah. Yeah. Did he not earn that?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. Did he not earn a billion dollars? Did LeBron not earn a billion dollars? Yeah. How come you don't bring him up? How come it's always just, you know, Citadel or J.P. Morgan or whatever it is. So I think the loophole specifically, and my point is like, what about the guy who's making $30 million, $30 million, $5 million, $2 million?
Starting point is 00:30:23 We don't live in this. this proletariat bourgeoisie kind of these neat little boxes of industrialists and workers anymore. It's a service-based economy. And there's a myriads of salaries, right, or incomes or worths. The thing that billionaires do is they do this nifty little thing that their accountant helps them with. First of all, they write a tax code that benefits them. Sure. And so what they do is they'll take their worth and they throw it in stock.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah. And then they'll borrow against the stock so it's not taxable. So they don't pay the same rate everybody else. does. Right. And they look at it and go, look at all the other stuff I do. Right. Which that part is true. Right. So they have a point there. But then also you're going, why don't we just fix that? Right. Why don't we just not allow you to do that anymore? Right. Where, because that's a little nifty loophole. Yeah. So what they're doing is they're putting their money in stock. You can't tax stock. But then people will go, oh, but when they sell it, they'll pay tax on that. But you're going,
Starting point is 00:31:21 yeah, it could go down. And also you're going, we don't need the money in 40 years. Or when and they never take it out because their kids keep borrowing against the wealth and they're just living off of borrowed wealth and they're not paying taxes and it's a nice loophole. So if you just close that one fucking loophole, then all these momdommies go away. Go away.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah. Right, Nick? That's all it takes. So me for fucking mayor. Yes. Me for mayor. Let's close that one fucking loophole and then everyone will shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That's what it is. Do you agree? I do agree. And I also, I also, look, I also know, that I'm not worth freaking $100 million, not even close. I know though that
Starting point is 00:32:00 I went through New York City school system. My mom barely, you know, got by, worked hard, whatever. I don't have any silver spoons. I don't come from any family money. And it's like the information is out there for you to learn yourself how to, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:16 pay taxes, how to invest your money. Like, you know, but you're deciding to go out and buy Jordans you can't afford. That's just what you're deciding to do. So, so you're, it's your fault. Or, or, or on sneakers, or on clouds, or new balance, yeah, or, or, you know, loafers, you know, or, or, honey, you know, you're the one deciding to spend eight grand on Nick's tickets. Yeah. You, you, you, you know, yes, I, I, just like, I, you know, if I, if, if they, if I don't get into the game, I watch a game from the home. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:48 So my thing is like, that is true too. Why is it? Why? I also look at the billionaires and I, and yeah, they pay a lot of tax, the taxes, the loopholes, whatever. But I see, what's that guy got to do with me? I got to figure it out for myself, guy. Right. But how come so many people don't want to just try to figure it out for themselves?
Starting point is 00:33:06 We have all the information. All you ever hear is AI, this, I or that. Why don't you ask this fucking thing how to get out of, how to get out of squalor, you piece of shit? We got two good examples. You know what I was trying to say, though? I know exactly what you're saying. Like, how is it anybody, how is it any other human's fault that? you can't fucking figure it out.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You're actually making a strong point that I can't. I'd say a big portion of it is that as well. Yeah. It's like, listen, we got two guys sitting right here. Both of them are kind of artists that don't make money. Right. Right? And they figured it out and they pivoted.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And now we got two producers who are making some money. We're making some money and they figured it the fuck out. What do you say it out? Did you make money on a Shakespearean play? I did not. Yeah. Jesse makes a couple of dollars selling sculptures, but it's not enough, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I got money. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, because he put it in the stock market. Oh, yeah. Jesse does have money. Yeah, Jesse. Yeah. And so my thing is, is like, my thing is, is like, we have to, what I'm saying is we got
Starting point is 00:34:04 pivot. Right. You've got to be dynamic. You've got to figure it out. The new economy emerges, you know, this is the new fucking entertainment business. If you're an artist, we need clippers. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I'm just saying it's like there's a lot of opportunity in podcasts my thing is just you know you look online and people just complain complain complain and I just I've always thought like I know I'm not where I need to be I know I you know could be more successful I have peers that make much much much much much much much more money than because you're doing very well but even when I was a physical therapist even when I was a physical therapist making 40 grand a year I was like this is the career I chose I'm trying to do it and then I was like okay I'm not going to be able to make the money I thought so I pivoted out, but it's like, I always thought like, do I have something different about me? Do I, and the answer is no. I just am not complaining about my fellow human, I'm not blaming
Starting point is 00:34:55 anything on my fellow human being getting something that I think I deserve. I'm just, I don't know why I never did that. And to me, it's always just like a thing where I'm like, all I do is hear people complain about their lives and they blame it on everybody else but themselves. It's like what, it's a very simple concept. It's your fault. When I fuck up in my life, I just know that it's my fault. I never blame it on anybody else. Because it's a real easy way to get attention and attention now is currency. So the squeaky wheel gets to grease and that is what is what has created a grievance culture because it is actually monetized. You can monetize your grievance. You can, you know, you can have an enemy and scream at them and start a fight or blame people and you can
Starting point is 00:35:37 get attention that way and that attention turns into dollars. When you blame something and you find an enemy, you turned it into dollars. And that's the economy right now while we're in this limbo between the economy of the early 2000s and the one that's emerging where it's going to be a little bumpy. Because what's happened is a lot of these people have invested $100, $150,000, $200,000 in an education that means absolutely dittly squat. A lot of those people would like to be sitting in Nick's seat right now. And that's just the economy. And I'd like to go back to the early 2000s. I and like that economy. Way song she ain't.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Just what it is. Yeah. No, I get it. No, but my thing is... Yeah. That's what it's called that economy. Yeah. Buy, borrow, die.
Starting point is 00:36:31 It's a legal tax strategy used by the ultra wealthy to preserve a transfer fortune. So how it works is do you buy, you purchase highly appreciating non-liquid assets. You let them grow over time. You don't know any taxes on the growth. I understand that, the unrealized growth.
Starting point is 00:36:45 You borrow, this is what Jesse taught me. This is what Jesse does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Borrow, then you use these appreciated assets as collateral to take out low interest loans. Yes. Such as securities base line of credit. Okay. The IRS does not tax the borrowed cash, giving a living expense without a taxable event.
Starting point is 00:37:02 This is, yeah, and then you die and you pass the assets onto the, onto your area. It's not cool. It's not cool. It's not cool. Yeah. That's the one loophole they need to close because they wrote the tax code like this so they could do this. Because basically, if Jeff Bezos or Ilom Musk comes,
Starting point is 00:37:15 to the bank and says, give me this loan. Are you going to say no? You know what he's worth. Right. You know your money's good and you're making money on the interest. Right. So you're just going, yeah. And for them, it's basically free money because they get a low interest loan because the risk is so low. Right. Right. Because you know Elon Musk can pay it back. He owns fucking everything. And then this, so this guy's basically living off of borrowed money. Right. That's essentially risk free and he's not paying taxes. So it's a loophole that they all benefit from. That's just, it's a little not fair. Right. It's a little.
Starting point is 00:37:45 little not fair and all you got to do is close this one loophole and then what can people complain about. Yeah. Because billionaires do pay an exorbitant amount of taxes. Not only do they do that, they help, they create the economy. I'm not even going to say they help the economy. They create the economy and they also create the ancillary and tertiary economy because if you open an Amazon thing in Long Island City, then the Delhi owners are eating. They got more business and the bus has more business. The city has more business.
Starting point is 00:38:14 There's more jobs and those jobs are tax. There's more sales tax. And there's more money flowing into the city. Yes, it makes perfect sense. Even the other day I saw that Elon Musk, who sometimes his timetables are wrong, sometimes he'll be like, like he said, oh, we're going to have self-driving cars by like 2017. He was a few years off, but we do have self-driving cars. Then he wanted to land the rocket, you know, the self-propelling rocket.
Starting point is 00:38:37 He was a few years off. But he said, so he might be a few years off. But what is that? These are nicotine toothpicks, but I had to empty them out so I could spit my Zin into it. It's just what it is. We don't have a garbage gate at this room. Yeah, I know. I know. Well, you want to throw it in that hutch in the
Starting point is 00:38:52 bag? You would have put all these nicotine toothpicks in your mouth so we have something to play for? Because this is probably about 300... Oh yeah, let's put that over. Yeah, throw them in there. This is about 300 milligram. It's nicotine right here. Yeah, it's just what it is. I like to give these to rain, man, to count. Yeah, it's just what it is. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:39:10 so Elon must, though, just said the other day that he fully expects by the year 2030 there to be a colony of close to 100,000 people living on Mars. And so even if he's wrong about that, do you know
Starting point is 00:39:26 the amount of jobs building a colony on Mars is going to create? It will single-handedly reverse any type of unemployment crisis we have. Because the billionaire is, you know, she call him an asshole, Tesla, whatever. It's all just, it's all, you don't understand. He's the one
Starting point is 00:39:41 giving you the fucking money. No. He's the one that's going to give you an opportunity. And guys like him. I have to admit something and it's just the truth of what I've observed. Because I have talked to a lot of younger, you know, I, I'm curious. So I talk to the younger mom-dami people or I talk to the younger people. Because listen, young people voted them in. Same thing in Seattle. You look at the polling numbers. It's under 30. The majority of them, he got voted in by people under 30 who are social media savvy. He's a social media candidate. So I will say this, and I say this confidently, because I'm not a business person.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I'm a comedian. I've had to learn business as I'm like, we all have. We've learned the business of comedy, but I don't know how to run a store. No, yeah. We have learned about these things, about investing and things like that as we've gone. So I know very little. But when you speak to these people, I have to admit every single one that I've talked to, they don't know what they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Right. I'm just being honest. Like, they just don't understand, they don't understand, and they don't understand the numbers. You say things and they just aren't unaware of it. You go, New York City is already the most tax. They don't know these things. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:54 They just go like, everything's too expensive, but they don't understand that everything has consequences. You know, there's no absolute solution. They think if you just tax the billionaires another 2%, that these problems are going to go away. You look at Los Angeles where they've done that, and they had a massive outmigration. And now they're going to vote in a Republican mayor. But it hasn't changed the inequality, and it hasn't changed the home.
Starting point is 00:41:18 They spend billions of dollars on homelessness. It's the worst it's ever been. Same thing in Seattle. Portland, it doesn't fucking work. These things have historically just a bad track record. The data does not look good. Those are just hard numbers. And you can keep what do you, so then they come up with another excuse.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It's almost like what communist said. They go, well, it was because we never had a pure form of it. It just keep moving the goalposts as they just won't. Nobody will admit that they're wrong. Right. Nobody will admit that it doesn't work. It doesn't work. And Spencer Pratt has my vote.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Is he going to win the mayor? I don't know. I don't be the mayor. I don't care about Los Angeles at all. Yeah, I don't kind of be either. I don't care who becomes, yeah. When Tim starts talking to me about Los Angeles politics, I go, you don't understand something. I'm a New Yorker I'm concerned about New York.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. I'm concerned about New York. I'm concerned about this country. I don't like Los Angeles. Yeah. I don't care who wins. I don't care if it's Karen Bass, Spencer Pratt, whatever. The truth is it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:42:18 We're just trying to get Mom Donnie out. The truth is that what just happened is there was an independent movie made by two YouTubers who, it's a horror movie that just is making more money than fucking Star Wars. Oh, what's the crazy? Backroom. Did you see it? Somebody just texted me the, said to go Google the trailer of it. But does it look good? I don't know, dude. But it is, I mean, did you hear what I just said?
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah. It outperformed Star Wars. This is it. Star Wars. And they made the whole thing on YouTube? They made it for a budget of what? 10 million. And they self-produced it. So this is the future.
Starting point is 00:42:57 It's like the studios just don't. Now the numbers are coming in. We knew this already because we have friends. Is that really a fact, though? It's kind of all over the news. But roughly 10? Okay. The budget of 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:43:07 and it grossed over 118-mil globally, but Star Wars had to gross more than that. It's beat Star Wars. It beats Star Wars. Yeah, it's beat Star Wars. Because they just came out. So it's still going to continue to make money. Oh, wait, there's a Star Wars movie out right now?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah, you didn't even know it, and that's the point. Huh? Nobody likes it. Oh, yes, I don't even know that there was a Star Wars movie out. Do you remember there was a time where you wouldn't know that there was a Star Wars movie out? Wow. You can't be the Native American who doesn't understand the ship. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:36 The ships are here. Yes, Star Wars did 81.5 million. So it's just, and you know how much? And it's opening weekend. Yes. And how much did Star Wars cost? What was the budget? You don't got to be a mathematician to understand.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Cost 160 mil to produce. Yeah. There's cost 10. So there you go. So we had evidence of this in the, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in smaller level in comedy, right? Where you go in like, when, like, when, like, for example, when flagrant two started hitting a million, you just do the math and you're going like, all right, so how much
Starting point is 00:44:04 of their sponsorship checks? Big. They're Patreon, big. They're touring numbers as a result of the visibility. One of them, you're like, wow, that really helped him. Yeah. And you go, these guys are making real money, and it's just not viable. The amount of eyeballs they're getting are numbers that are comparable or better than most TV budgets.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And those TV shows, and those TVs have exorbitant budgets. So you can do all the protests you want about Stephen Colbert and whatever. But if he can only draw six. million on his finale with the biggest stars and everyone tuning into support, the medium is just dead. It's just moved on. Yeah, yeah. People go all, you know, it was a hit political hit job. It's going.
Starting point is 00:44:48 It's going away anyway. And it's like it might have been, but the numbers just don't make, you can't. It's going away. The budget's too big. It's too big. It's going away. Bad friends, you know, biggest podcast is hilarious. You know, our good friends, Dan Santino and Bobby Lee.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And I saw that just doing a game show because of the success of their podcast, they just produced the game show. That's right. They're not waiting for you. you know, the price is right to call them. They're like, we'll just do our own thing. No, they wouldn't do that because it would take forever. They'd lose money.
Starting point is 00:45:13 They'd have to hire all these people. They use your own money. You can put it on YouTube. You get ad revenue. You can do it. You can sell it somewhere, have it go on YouTube and there. It's just, this is the era of you're your own studio. And it's just, it's going to continue that way.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I mean, once you see a movie come out with Eddie Murphy that no one's even heard of, you go, it's over. I mean, that used to be the biggest news. Eddie Murphy's making a movie? He's only made like four in like 40 years or something. that like bow finger then he did like the coms he had and then like he disappears for a long time and then he does one with pete davidson and it bombs nobody even knows it's out you're going like oh it's not their fault it's just that the eyeballs are someplace else and and the mainstream is now
Starting point is 00:45:53 online and with streamers and no longer with traditional studios and it's and and it's just the way you got the thing is is the traditional studios are the seem like I mean some of the head hodges Ted serendos I'm sure knows this but some of these executives have to know that their days are numbered with the job. There is no job opportunity. That's right. Netflix is a stream. You have to remember Netflix is like YouTube.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's a streamer. Right. So it's just a network. Netflix is doing great. Who knows what their bottom line is, but their investors are, you know, they've raised a lot of money. They're doing fine, but they're all streamers. It's a tech takeover.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I mean, Amazon Prime is tech. Like Hollywood was in Los Angeles. It was TV. It was cable. It was a broadcasting studio way. It wasn't independent. it was a whole big cruise ship. Now it's like independent.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Boom, you get big. And then they give you money to be on their platform because you can be on many platforms. Nobody has the monopoly anymore of like five or six studios and 10 studios or 10 networks, 15 networks. They're owned by one. Viacom owns 15 of them. Those days are just over.
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Starting point is 00:50:19 tired again. So the economy, no, it does it in a way because look, Jake Paul, Logan Paul, they moved to Puerto Rico. Theo Vaughan moves to Tennessee. The biggest comedian in the country lives in Nashville, right? Joe Rogan, the biggest media. comedian in the country, the most famous, moved from California. He lives in Austin. And the only reason they moved is because of states rights because of the income tax. You could say what you want.
Starting point is 00:50:45 They didn't move for any other reason, Tom Seguer. It was taxes and states rights, which is what Thomas Jefferson said would happen if you don't create this competitive advantage. So what these places needed to do, like New York, L.A., whatever, is see the writing on the wall and lower their taxes. A should have did the opposite. They needed to make it more. They got so, see, they get cocky and confident, and they go, we're New York, we're L.A.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Everyone wants to be here, which is very true. And they're going, you have to be here to make it. But now with the way the digital economy has changed it with remote working, especially after COVID, and how everything has become decentralized, you do not need to be in New York or Los Angeles to make it in entertainment or law or finance. There's plenty of people who work from home who live in the Carolinas, we still have their job in New York. So it's sort of like the arrogance of New York and Los Angeles They need to do something to attract people
Starting point is 00:51:39 So what do you think they're gonna how do we get how do you get people this is the only way? Lips lowering taxes? It's always been that way But they'll never have they ever once lowered tax? Jesse have they ever lowered taxes in New York ever in your life all the time Like lowered but for real? Yeah, I think the tax rate was really high in the 70s they brought it down It fluctuates depending on who's but like big like in a major way
Starting point is 00:52:01 Like they'll never go to no state. income tax here. They can't do that. Probably not. It depends on who they elect, but yeah. And is that because we have so many people that live here? Like we need the programs, the, you know, Medicaid and all that stuff? Yeah. I mean, demand in New York is always going to be high. So, but you see these other states that they compete, right? Because they want to, they want to have growth and build there. But New York has always relied on its infrastructure. It's, it's fame as a city. So if that goes away, but New York has been through many lives. But this tax, the taxes in New York right now are the highest they've ever been in the history.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's the highest in the country. Right. It's the highest in the country already before Mom Dami came in. Right. I think it's the highest rate in the country. And the most progressive. Right. So it's like, yeah, if you're rich, you pay the highest amount of taxes to live here. To live here. Right. And people, and the rich did that because New York is the shit. Right. Right. Like, so New York is like the Netflix of now or the NBC that it used to be. Right. But now you're seeing, I mean, we have a massive, we've lost billions of dollars. is the tax revenue. The real issue is who's not coming, right? Like if this doesn't become a business friendly city, who's not going to come? Who's not going to want to build their business here? Who's not going to want to have their corporate headquarters here? Well, I worry about that just as the United States in general. I mean, you know, you look at like how much war we're involved in and always whatever the wars with Israel. Fine. But it's like, you know, I saw this thing where a lot of these first world countries, little deals. They're making like little energy deals. Like Amsterdam will make a little energy deal with China.
Starting point is 00:53:29 these other countries that make little deals with China because they're looking at China being like they're not war mongering country they just build infrastructure and want to just you know they just want to be involved financially where the United States like yeah we'll give you money but then also you're fighting wars with us
Starting point is 00:53:44 so I wonder like I worry a little bit about that like my kids lives where I'm like is the United States is it going to be a thing where the red because if the rest of the world turns around it's like why are we going to keep messing with these guys that could happen and then you're really fucked and then who's going to buy my house That's just this administration.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Once we get past this administration, you think? Yeah. That's just Trump doing something that is ruffled a lot of feathers and shifted a lot of things now. But thankfully, we have a, and maybe long term historians will look back and say that was a necessary move because of the balance of power things. Or it's just something that'll be another three more years or two and a half more years. And that's the great thing about America. And then a new administration.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It's up to the people. I mean, the people can vote in someone else and things can change. course, we could continue to fucking pay for NATO and start doing things can change. And that's why what have we been saying every week here, Nick, on this podcast, two words Jesus saves and who likes Jesus? J.D. Vantz, he will save us.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So we'll see what happens. I mean, look, you know, you vote. I mean, people like Mondami, like he got elected. So you have to respect the people that elected them and go, hey, let's see how it works. Let's see how it goes. Maybe we're wrong. This is what the people want. Historically, you just look
Starting point is 00:54:56 at the data objectively. It doesn't seem to work for cities well. It doesn't seem to fix the problems it's claims it's going to fix. But maybe it will. Who knows? We're going to see. You know, maybe his, it's called Zoron Magic. Maybe it'll see. But the good thing is, and what we're talking about today, is that there's options. You're not locked in anything. The worst thing that can happen to anyone is stagnation. Right. That's why often, that's why communism doesn't work, because it's stagnant. It's centralized power. It doesn't move. You need competition. You need disagreement, you need movement, you need options, you need freedom.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You need flowing, baby. That's why I was going to buy a house in Massapequa, Long Island, because it was by the water. And then the realtor said, listen, I want you to buy a house, but I just want to let you know, remind you that the water that you see it out there, it's stagnant. So what does stagnant water bring? Mosquitoes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So you can, that reason why the house is not that expensive is because it's stagnant water. Yeah. He said, you want to be by water that's moving, flow and water. Like ocean. Like ocean water. Or a river water. Yeah, the only thing that hurts mosquitoes is wind. It's wind, right?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Wind, that's it's what it is. That's why you learn this when you live out in the country, any little stagnant pool of water you have outside, you've got water. And even if it's in like a pot, right? If you got a pot of plant out there and the water builds up because it's an empty pot, even if it's a little water, that becomes a nest for mosquitoes.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So you always want to get rid of any standing water outside your house. Well, that's why Jasmine always, you know, I gotta give you, she's smart because a lot of people, you know, they always have the mosquito things, the candles and she has all that stuff. But every time we're sitting outside, because she says you just learned it growing up at Sunset Park, she's always got two fans outside. If we're sitting down the table, the fans are just blowing and your hair will blow away and it's a little uncomfortable, but you never get hit by a mosquito. They can't land. They just, because you think that force is too much for their little mosquito shit bodies. Yeah, I mean, the fans are basically ice for
Starting point is 00:56:51 mosquitoes. It's what it is. Keeps them out. Keeps them out. Keeps them out. So this has been, the founding of our country was based on, you know, states rights versus the federal government. Yeah. It's just they wrote the federalist papers and Thomas Jefferson was a kid. He even called Virginia his country. He just loved Virginia. So I think, look, in my opinion, I think they both make valid points. They both have vulnerabilities.
Starting point is 00:57:17 But together, the balance of it kind of works. It just kind of works. And that's why, you know, I'll be talking about states rights in Philadelphia, July 10th and 11th, go to Christy Comedy.com for tickets. I'm going back to Philadelphia, because founding of it all. The founding of it all, I mean, because I got to be honest with you, I'm very excited because I got a few dates this summer and every single one I could drive to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Stanford, Connecticut, Philadelphia, Portland, Maine. I mean, we're just driving, baby Atlantic City. Yeah. Right? It's just nice to be able to drive to. Yeah. I don't want to get on a plane anymore. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Even I got a wedding this weekend in Martha's Vineyard. I'm going to drive. It's very nice. I sag after call. me. Let's pick it up and see. Your payment at SAG after. I'm not giving you any fucking money. No, you know what I think it is?
Starting point is 00:58:07 I think my, I think my do, you know, like the SAG after dues, but my thing, why am I paying my, what do you fucking do for me? Do they give you health care for a discounted price? Well, no, because I didn't make enough money specifically in SAG after, so I pay for my own health insurance. I just get out of it, yeah. I pay for my own health insurance. That's the only reason to be in it. Fucking scum. To remind you that the deadline to pay your made dues is quickly approaching. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Oh, but if I don't pay the dues, do I get kicked? Oh, so is my health insurance discounted through SAG after? It should be. Yeah, you should have some sort of rate. Yeah, but I didn't qualify for health insurance. Like, I'm paying my own health insurance. So then no, then there's might as well go to Obamacare. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:58:45 What do you do now? Obamacare. Well, no, I have Anthem health insurance and my card says SAG after. Say you say, say you. So pay your dues and you continue that. Well, do the math. Did you do the math? I didn't do the math.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I didn't do the math. So now you sound like a mom dummy voter. Did you actually do the math? Yeah, I did it. See you're going to eat your words. All right, guys, I got to go get my foot looked at. The doctors think I have a little salmon on my Achilles called a Hagland's Deformity, so we're going to find out. Yeah, and tell us to the comments, are you a states rights guy, or are you an Alexander Hamilton guy? All right, baby. As always, we encourage everyone to go to patreon.com slash history hyenas. Some of the most fun we have on this show is at the end of every episode where we read out the newest members of the matriarchy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 The winner gets the PPW, the pseudopinous of the week. It gets into a tie. Then we have a voting system. At patreon.com slash history aene. The only way to really, really, really get a part of this show and have fun, fun, fun, is get on that Patreon, baby. Okay, here we go. Eric Siemens. Then we got Janus, aka Rocky from Project Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Have you seen Project Hail Mary? No. The thing is, it's just an alien rock that can talk, and it doesn't have eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Chick-a-figure. All right, yeah. Steve, then we got Yanni Eye Doctor versus Christy's therapist, who you got?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Odell two giants O'Dell Beckham Jr's going back to the Giants Wow Yeah That's pretty sick He's old and then Yeah, he's old and we don't need it Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:09 And the All the gay clubs are going to get More money pumped into that I mean he's just a gay kid Mitchell Then we got white man Black dad Do I have the N pass
Starting point is 01:00:19 I still think no White mom White man Black dad Do I have the N pass So he's a white man So is it his real dad Then you have the Mpass?
Starting point is 01:00:29 That is a good point, yeah. You know, the only person to ask would be Hartenstein. He's no, because he would be the guy. He's got a black dad? He's got a very light-skinned black dad. Interesting. But he looks completely white. But Heinstein's a Jewish name.
Starting point is 01:00:41 It's more of a German name. Right. Because all those Jews were Germans. That's what it is. Yeah, the only, there's really no Jewish names. I kind of miss Hartinstein on the Knicks. I kind of miss him on the Knicks too. Yeah, it's a weird.
Starting point is 01:00:51 He's a black guy. He must really get like some, like, hang out with the guys. And they're like, yeah, these N-Words. He's like, I'm one. I'm one. J.L. Kovin was like that, too. Yeah, oh, yeah, I remember. His dad was Haitian, but he looks like a white kid.
Starting point is 01:01:02 All right, so born to let it crust, forced to wipe. Disgusting. I'm going to directs to that because it just means he's a lazy kid. He doesn't mind fumes. Yeah, it's just what it is. Then we got K.P., Danny, Jacob. Walked in a one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah, it's just. You like it? You like it, but you can't put it in lights. But you know what? He's walked the end of the year. Your contention for the end of the year, because it's a good, that's a definition of a chicken figure, but it's the evil one. It's just what it is. But it's the definition of a short, quick, boom.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Right. Okay. Then we got Leroy's in Paris. Right. We've had. We've had that. Then we got confirmed ginger squeak, aka Little Red Ridingwood. Put them on the list.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Okay, there we go. Put them on the list. Yep. Very good. Okay. Then we got I'm against slavery Much as the next Leroy But what did we do with all the
Starting point is 01:02:03 Nicholas cages Okay, I don't get it He's a black kid trying to make a slavery joke I don't get it Okay Good effort though Yeah Dylan James Darrow
Starting point is 01:02:13 OJ's 9 inch Chef's knife Okay Way song she ain't I mean What do you think Put it on the list I mean it's funny
Starting point is 01:02:25 I guess it's kind of inventive Yeah it's really really creative. Imagine selling those on an infomercial. Yeah. Then we got Elliot Page's Oscar acceptance speech for best prosthetics. Put him a last one.
Starting point is 01:02:37 That's what it is. Yeah, it's guy. Then we got Mombo number five dollars off or I walk by Jubaga. He's going for something. I just don't know quite what it is. Okay. Decapitating GI Joe's in my fume garage.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Contender. Yeah. Contender. Okay. Fume garage is the asshole. ass he's been taking, he's putting the heads of the asshole. Yeah, it's just what it is. Then we got Lincoln Sill.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Then we got what's your boss's job? Leroy Shrug beats me. Like, Leroy Shrug beats me. Oh, because he doesn't have a racist joke. It's a racist joke. Sorry. It's a shame.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Andrew, Ryan Smith, if the glue fits. Then we got, it's just if the glue fits? If the glue fits. That's it. That's a setup without a punch, my guy. If the glue fits.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah. Okay. Instead of if the shoe fits. He's saying if the glue fits. Like something would just glue. You need like a must-a-quit or something. Okay. Then we got Ibukakied on my shroud and now it's radioactive.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Okay. Okay. Austin Collin. Eric, not a grower or a shower. Chicken finger. Good one. It's just what it is. Good wood, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Then we got female Frisbee. Call her a wigger. I don't get it. I don't get it. Got Ebola through my hemihull. I don't get it. Luce assol. Justin Angako at
Starting point is 01:04:04 Justin Angako.com. Screwed in. Good for you. Yeah. Jam 55. Ryan Bureh. Mike Skrgesha. Jeff.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Lean Lad of 14, wean, cuisine queen. It's pretty good. Yeah. I'm a Drexler. It. Zion Hardine. Rue monkey,
Starting point is 01:04:20 glue funky. Mm-hmm. I. Illumayani. Aluma yani is a good one. It's not a bad one. Chicken finger. Andrew.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Mistook pink for stink and now I'm homeless. Okay. Okay. Ajax Gallagher. Zoran Longdongi. Okay. Bergen-Valestrand, Jared Mitchell, Sam Deemers,
Starting point is 01:04:46 Mr. Goldfish, Nick DeNapoli. My Puerto Rican husband's glue gun makes my lips speak in Espanol. Get past me, Kent they. Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip. Laddivor 14.
Starting point is 01:05:00 On the list. Yeah. On the list. It's blown out, right? Yeah. On the list. It's a walk into one, but it's funny. Yeah. Flatened is what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah, it's just what it is. Yeah. Yaya's cookies. Then we got Captain one-eyed Chrissy, aka this skin text. Interesting. Then we got, then we got Mujer.
Starting point is 01:05:25 and the Fuhr, aka Jazzy and Chrissy Big. Stephanie Garlic, not Gaga. Wayshan Shian de list for P.W. Okay. If it's not tight enough, you can stick it in my neck. That's weird. I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:45 2026 Festival of... Hey. Didn't you fuck that. Yeah. I thought you were talking about music. Boy. That's what it is. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's funny because the. eyes go first and the brain catches it. And they spelled it J-A-ZZ. Oh, so they got you good. Yeah, it's just jazz. There was festival. There was music. They were intentionally trying to get you. Yes, what it is. Then we got Yanni gets both eyes on the brown eye. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:08 The guy who cleaned up Pee-E-Herman's jizz tongue. Drexler. It's a good job. Somebody actually did that. Yeah. Mexican bug chaser call me a free holy. Okay. Freeholde. Okay. Richard. Chris Ulysses versus the feet sniffing cyclops Drexler Stefan Johnny Maracas Nate Perkis
Starting point is 01:06:31 WWE's newest trans star Dwayne Nocock Johnson Okay Jerking off thumb up my ass I call it going Abselling What Jerking off thumb up my ass
Starting point is 01:06:42 I call it going Abcelling Abselling We like to call that as he went for something Yeah I don't know what it is Arturo Vargas Presenting my ass to a face hugger because I got that interracial tingle.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Facehugger. I know what that is. Nick. Schmitty. Dr. Nick. Schmitty. Chicken finger. Schmiddy.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Then we got Yanni Magnetized set off the North Salem with Haysel trials. Okay. Can I get a Cosby water for my daughter? Hell. That's really. It's a weird one. It's a weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:17 When you're trying to fucking. Yeah. Yeah. That's weird. Then we got Mrs. Met's only, only fans manager. Mrs. Met's only fan manager. Does she have been only fans? He's making it charming. That'd be nice if you did.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Two cocky, Bukaki, James Hart, Swagdeddy, Chrissy Flop and Yanni Tutsi Slurp. Dooser, fancy bastard, shit Reynolds, Anthony Williams, Yanni the Poop Slurp, Perp, Ryan Arnold. Babe, I promise it's not fumes. I just shit a little
Starting point is 01:07:46 when it goes pewing. We're going to, We're going to put that on the list. All right. Wow. Okay. There we go. It's a little funny.
Starting point is 01:07:56 He gets a little excited and he poops himself a little bit. It happens. Yeah. Then we got Juan Gotti from Nickerbach or Ave. Griffin Lawson, Maverick Canagard, Chris Jenner's sex toilet. I'm a grown man. I'll piss the bed if I want to. Put him on the list.
Starting point is 01:08:10 There it is. I like that. Yeah. And it is a good point. It's what you say to your wife where you wake up and she's like you got a drinking problem. Yeah. Instead of looks maxing, Yani is eye maxing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Just want to give you boys. a shout out to Chrissy looks like he eats Bratworth and Uncle Jesse with an extra 21st. What does that mean, extra 21st? Oh, like you have an extra chromosome. Oh, yeah. Special needs, yeah. Yeah. Our Drex are just for that.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yeah. Then we got Mike Obama's pseudo piece is bigger than mine. Chicken thing. Then we got Ryan Gosling from the film Drive but with Down syndrome. Okay. Interesting. Gloomann group we've had. Brian LaMonica.
Starting point is 01:08:47 The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant. List it. Yeah. Contender. Yeah. Contender. Yeah. Feet eater Peter.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Feet eater Peter gets a chicken finger. Then we got Chrissy's grandpa died at Auschwitz. He fell out of a tower. That's like an old school street joke. I don't get it. Like saying that my grandfather died at Auschwitz. He fell out of a tower. He was a Nazi guard.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Oh, right. But that's an old street joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. End word scissor hands. I feel like we've had that. Yeah. Jimmy, at least half a tard canard.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Chicken finger. I'm Bobby Mom. That's a bad friend's joke. S.G.T. Glugon Thompson, A.K. Leroy Frisbee the Reich. Kai. Jesus and the lady brain boys fix my leaky roof. Aunt Tuddy shot my dad.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Uh-huh. I told you come in me. Okay. It's decent. Yeah. He spaced it all out. Yeah, it's a chicken figure. Anthony Prairie.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yanni. it's Poppins Cherries. Big Bitch against GLP first. Call her Jesse's next masterpiece. Oh yeah. Yep. He paints fat people. Yeah. Half Jew, half robot. Call me a cyborg. I'll tax you physically.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I like that. Syberg. I like that. Yeah. Let's put it on the list. All right. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. That's the list. This borderline it's not going to win, but it deserves to be honored. Yeah. Corbyn Porter. Bobby the throat goat, Kennedy's angry voice box. And then call me Israel.
Starting point is 01:10:21 way I'm trying to Benjamin nut and on you, which we've had that. Okay. All right. So here's the list. You know, again, you think that it's going to be easy. I got to say generally kind of on the weaker side. On the weaker side for list, but there are a lot of people we've had worse. Yeah. This is the middle of the road. And also I've said that and then I've heard them and I've been like, actually I was wrong. Okay, so here we go. Starting off, we got confirmed ginger squeak, aka Little Red Ridingwood. Drexler. Okay. Yeah. That's all. Yeah. Then we got, uh, Jay's nine inch chef's knife. We're going to chicken finger that.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Okay. Yeah. Then we got Elliot Page's Oscar acceptance speech for best prosthetics. We're going to Drexler it. Just because, yeah, we have a better Elliott Lynch. Yeah, I think we got decapitating G.I. Joe's in my fume garage. That's a contender. That's a contender.
Starting point is 01:11:08 That's staying on. Then we have Elliot Page's chest. Looks like the Gaza Strip. That's a contend. And then we have, um, Babe, I promise it's not fumes. I just shit a little when it goes pewing. We're going to Drexer that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:20 So, Drexer that. Yeah. And then we got, I'm a grown man. I'll piss the bet if I want to. We're going to Drex for that. Then we got the great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant. We're going to keep that around. It's just what it is.
Starting point is 01:11:35 It's better than I thought. Then we got half Jew, half robot, call me a cyborg. I'll tax use physically. That is very good. Also, show specific because take it physically. I got to keep it around, bro, just because of the fandom with the originality. All right. So we have one, two, three, four contenders.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I was wrong. It's better than I thought. So the contenders are decapitating G.I. Joe's in my fume garage. Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip. The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant or half Jew, half robot, call me a cyborg. I'll tax you physically. I'll tax you physically.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Okay. Tough one. We're going to narrow it down, though. I love the decapitating G.I. Joe's. Right. This is the definition of a Drexler. It would win any other time, I believe. Also, I wish, a fume garage is good, but we've had a lot of fume garage.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Somebody else came up with that. Yes. So if he would have just said it in my ass or something, it would have been a little, but I'm going to have to Drexler. That's out. But I hate to do it. Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip. We got to keep that around. It's just what it is.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah, we got to keep that around. The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant. That would, I can't, it's just hard to say that I'm going to have to. the Drex for that because it's just what it is. Yeah, it's tough. Oh, Jesse likes that. Should I keep it around? Nick? Well, I'm getting outvoted. How about you? I'll say keep it around just to have a, because I think half Jew, half robot, call me a
Starting point is 01:13:02 cyborg, should go. Okay, so let's direct so that. So then I'll say, then it's between the great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant or Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip. We got two, we got two winners here. This is what it's hard to do. Do we put it to a vote or do we pick it in here? We made them vote last time. I think we got to do the hard word. We're going to take it from a democracy and make it a republic.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It's just what it is. People don't know how to act. Yeah. Because you know what's funny is we take it to a vote and then they complain. Right. They complain and say, oh, you guys, one complaint goes, oh, you guys are getting ladies. You're not even picking winners. We're trying to involve you.
Starting point is 01:13:36 They have a complaint one way or another. Other people saying they love the vote. I don't know what you people fucking want. Yeah. But you know what? It just makes me want to take a G. Joe and decapitated in my ass. Which I might do.
Starting point is 01:13:47 So it's between Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip or the great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant. Two All-Stars. We got to vote. So for me, Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip because it's flattened. It's funny. And the cantalup thing is funny too, but I would go with Elliot Page, but I'm a big Elliot Page fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 The thing is, I think what we're going to do is we're going to enjoy that joke. But it's one of those that, you know, we just can't put up. in lights. We just can't put it up in lights, unfortunately. So we'll say maybe that's the winner, that's the private winner, but the public winner is the great thing about cantaloupe because that can't get pregnant. That's right. It's sort of like the deep state, right? You have one guy who's elected and he's the de facto president, but then you got the real people who have the power. We all know that Elliott Page is the winner. We just can't put it up in lights. So congratulations, go to history. Aniusis is Back.com. So your name of him in lights. The winner is the great
Starting point is 01:14:45 thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant. Which is also equally as good for different reasons. And it's amazing. And guys go home after this episode and have sex with a cantalope.

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