History Hyenas with Chris Distefano and Yannis Pappas - Vote w Your Feet | History Hyenas
Episode Date: June 4, 2026This week on History Hyenas, Chrissy Chaos and Yanni Long Days dive into one of the greatest political rivalries in American history: Thomas Jefferson vs. Alexander Hamilton. Was America supposed t...o be run by powerful states or a powerful federal government? Jefferson believed local governments knew best and fought for states' rights, while Hamilton pushed for a strong central government, a national bank, and a unified economic system. The Hyenas break down how this centuries-old debate still shapes America today. From tax breaks in Texas and Florida to corporate incentives in Tennessee and North Carolina, states are still competing against each other for businesses, jobs, and residents. Is that Jefferson's vision in action, or would Hamilton say the federal government should be calling the shots? The boys connect the Founding Fathers to modern politics, economic competition, and the never-ending battle over who should hold the power in America. #HistoryHyenas #ThomasJefferson #AlexanderHamilton #FoundingFathers #AmericanHistory #StatesRights #Federalism #Politics #USHistory #HistoryPodcast #YannisPappas #chrisdistefano Support our sponsors: To explore coverage, visit https://ASPCApetinsurance.com/HYENAS The ASPCA® is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance Right now, when you buy two months of BlueChew Gold, you get the third for FREE with promo code HYENAS. Elevate your summer wardrobe. Go to https://quince.com/hyenas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Join our Patreon at 👇 https://www.patreon.com/historyhyenas/ Subscribe to the poddy woddy Our YouTube!: https://bit.ly/2ARdDOz HH Clips:https://bit.ly/2YaK2Z8 iTunes: https://apple.co/2UQTHCc Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3fxtsc0 Hyenas Merch!!! https://store.historyhyenaspod.com Follow us Cuz! 🙆🏻♂️ Yannis Pappas Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/yannispappas Website - https://www.yannispappascomedy.com/ 🙆🏼♂️ Chris Distefano Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/chrisdcomedy/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/chrisdcomedy Website - https://www.chrisdcomedy.com/ 🐕More Hyenas Website: www.historyhyenasisback.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/historyhyenas/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/HistoryHyenas Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/historyhyenaspod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up, everybody?
Welcome to another episode of History Hyenas.
I'm Chris Stefano, aka Chrissy D.
With me, as always, Yonis Pompas,
aka Yanni Pee-B.
Wait a second.
You didn't have something geared up for that?
I didn't have something geared up.
AKA Chrissy D.
I know, because we just got smacked in the face
by two Israeli titties.
So I'm a little concussed because we had a snoozer of a Patreon.
Go to patreon.com.
I just trying in.
But make absolutely no mistake,
we got smacked in the face by some jute tits.
What?
I'm going to tease it like this for the internet.
We find out what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Yeah.
Go get patreon.com slash history a heat is to get to the bottom of it.
Yeah, it's just go over there.
I mean, it's one of those things where we're just breathing a sigh of relief that that's over.
The thing is this, the thing is this is Jewish people, you know, we love them so much.
We love our Jewish brothers and sisters.
We love our Muslim brothers and sisters.
They're very persistent.
And I think what's happened is because of my heritage, because of Germany, you know, being from German,
I think I've just happened in my DNA to be able to somehow evade the Jew where you cannot
because she tried to come at me to get on the show and I was able to evade, but then she caught you big.
They just will keep they're very pushing.
She said actually in the Bible, I didn't know that.
It says it in the Bible that they're very pushy people.
Right.
Remember she said in the Bible?
Stiffnecked.
Yeah.
And I was like, boy, did someone nail that.
Yeah.
Because I guess stiff neck, if you translate it from the original Aramaic, probably that like really fucking annoying.
I do like her.
It was a nice guy.
Everything's great.
Everything's great.
I love everyone in the world.
I love that they are who they are.
I enjoy it like a comedy.
Like I like the different personalities.
I love the differences.
You've got to be into this life for the drama that it is.
Be who you want to be.
I respect that.
Be you, girl.
Do it bitch.
Whatever it is.
The Knicks are in the finals.
Things can't be that bad.
Because the Knicks are in the finals.
I had my bachelor party on Saturday.
Which I didn't attend because my.
because my daughter, it was her birthday.
Otherwise, I would have been in attendance.
I mean, it was a good, good time.
It was the perfect bachelor party for me.
We went to this place Lucky Charlie's in Brooklyn because if you want to go to a new spot in Bushwick,
Lucky Charlies, they have a coal oven in there from 1890.
Ooh.
A coal oven that was built.
It was built by German immigrants in 1890.
It's the biggest coal oven in the northeast.
So it was very fun for me to ask which one of my friends.
Live 40s.
Because the oven goes back a full city block.
I've never seen an oven as big as this oven.
And it's wild because this place is about 10 minutes from where I grew up in Ridgewood.
And they got taken over.
And I'm telling you, I had one of the best meals I've ever had.
They gave us a dope experience in the back of this restaurant.
They gave us a private room.
But that's also where the chef's apartment is.
So the chef was cooking for us on his personal home stove for me and the other 10 guys.
We had a magician there.
A magician came in and was doing sick car tricks.
And we ate and drank, and it was just me and 12.
You're a magician at your adult party?
Yeah, yeah.
And we had 12 guys come in, do magic tricks.
I mean, we had a magician come in.
He did magic tricks for all of us.
We ate pizza.
The chef gave us all this food, all this Sicilian beer and wine that they made.
This guy, Nino was amazing at Lucky Charles.
Then he threw on the Thunder Spurs game seven.
We watched that.
And by 11 o'clock, I was on my way home.
By 1145, I was in bed, baby.
And I had a great batch.
Did Debo get the booster seat?
Debo got the booster seat.
And Debo is the only one who stayed because there was a couple of cute
in the back.
Did you, when you walk in to go to dinner with Debo, do you say like we do with our daughters,
you say high chair or booster, do you go for what you make a decision?
Yeah, and the thing is with Debo's because a lot of these guys were hungry and I got one
for it who's really fat.
The problem is Debo looks like an appetizer.
Because I'm telling you, lucky Charlie's, this place will blow your mind.
The food was incredible.
And I'm not, you know, I'm not.
Who picked it?
Emilio.
How did he find it?
Somehow he found it.
I don't know.
He hung out there like a month ago.
He was like, you're going to love this place.
And I'm telling you, it's the kind of place.
Now, listen, it's not too far from my ma.
So it'd be nice to go see Ma, but it's one of these places that I will find myself going into probably once a month just to eat and hang out.
You know, like those how we grew up in like, you know, Brooklyn, Queens, those old school joints.
That's what it's like.
Because I want you to take me there.
I'm going to take you there.
I want you to take me out.
I want to take you out.
You got to see this oven.
And this guy, Nino, is great.
He'll just show you the oven.
Yeah.
He likes to show people the oven.
it. And then we were in the backyard.
We were in the backyard. They had like a little private
backyard back there. And then the magician came in
and the guy and the magician got paid and he's doing magic tricks, adult magic
tricks or whatever. And then the guy Nino has a three-year-old daughter.
He goes, you got to do some tricks from my daughter.
And then he goes, the guy's like, well, I don't have anything like the kids would understand.
He goes, my daughter's going to sit down and you can do some tricks for her.
And it was great. And he was just a fun guy.
It seems like a real fun place. How are they doing over there at Lucky Charlie?
Well, they just opened like 10 months ago, but I mean, you got to wait two hours for a
table. Oh, they're doing good.
They're doing good. Yeah, scroll down, scroll down.
Yeah, say, play this, play this clip
Instagram, like, just hear this guy's voice.
He's a real fucking, you know what I mean?
Fucking Calzone. What are you doing?
You fucking bother me? I'm fucking busy over here.
I got people waiting.
It's from Gravesend.
We're going to make some pizza
a little bit. Looks really good. No, it's delicious,
bro. Yeah.
You know.
We need a history.
We need a history.
behind his table over there.
Yeah, 100%.
You know, you drink while you work?
Yo, I do it for the juice, kid.
That's why I do the whole fucking shit.
I do it for the juice.
For the juice?
For the juice.
Oh, the juice.
Mr. Brocolino or Sicilian.
How are you doing?
Get the fuck out of you.
Dude, he made this Sicilian dish.
It was like, they almost looked like spaghettios, but it was some kind of pasta.
And they had like a baked, like top on it, like a pie.
and it was just one of the best things I ever had.
He makes certain dishes he makes.
He's like, you can only get this shit in Sicily.
Right.
It's next level, because you missed a good party, but you had to go to your daughter's birthday party.
I was at my daughter's birthday party on Saturday.
You were eating real SpaghettiOs.
I was eating real SpaghettiOs.
You know, I'm sorry, I missed it, but I think we should do, we should take the crew over there for a little bite.
Because it's in Bushwick.
It's in Bushwick on Irving Avenue, so it'd be nice to go over there.
Yeah, because there's a lot.
We may just get a studio in Bushwick just to move it so we're closer to this restaurant.
Yeah, and I'll tell you another thing, if the waitresses are hot.
Yes, so then we're going.
The witches are hot and all those kind of like hipstery white girls with like little tattoos all over them that probably have fumes, but I'll bang them out anyway.
I like it.
Those are the type of girls that give Graham K syphilis and I like it.
Yeah.
Does he have syphi?
He's had it a few times.
It's just getting syphilis is very old school.
It's very funny to get syphilis.
It's very funny to get syphilis.
Now, you know.
You got the burn a few times.
Yeah, I got the burn.
But I got chlamydia.
I never got syphilis.
You got chlamydia.
Yeah, but it's nice to have the voucher parties to the weddings in about two, three weeks.
And make absolutely no mistake.
I'm still looking for a dismay patch.
I just want to bring this up before we get into this because I'm very curious about it.
This tick issue, I believe something's going on.
I believe something's going on.
I believe we're going to have to start dealing with some of these bioterrorism things.
And I believe that it's either vegans doing this or the good old CCP.
Right.
But something is going on where ticks are just everywhere.
and now people are getting bit by these lone star ticks
and the ticks are giving people this
this allergy to meat
and so that's why there's a conspiracy theory
that this is vegans and animal rights activists doing this
and I want to...
It's a real thing. It's a big news
and they're all over the place
and it's just something's unnatural about it.
I mean, they are all over the place.
Wow.
People have never seen this many ticks
across the United States
and they're in places that they didn't used to be
to this level.
But what's the allergic reaction to red meat and dairy?
Something happens where you get some bacteria from them.
You know, because limes is not the only thing you can get from ticks.
They carry a bunch of different pantheons.
Is that what they called?
Pathogens.
Tics, they're little fucks.
They're little fuchs.
It's what they are.
They're little fuchs.
I don't like ticks at all.
I don't like them a fucking all.
Call the guy a tick would be funny.
He's a fucking tick.
He's a drip and he's a tick.
He's a tick.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Nick the tick.
Yeah, Nick the tick.
Ticks are, yeah, because now it's like, yeah, my daughter had a tick in her head a month ago, and I didn't like it.
It's really bad.
But jazz got it out.
They're really dangerous.
You got to get them out before 24 hours.
That's why it's always important to check your kids because all these diseases take 24 hours.
So if you can get the tick off within the 24 hours, you're good.
And you got to your dog.
You got to get your dog check your dog for ticks.
Yeah, you talk.
Because ticks will get on your dog.
You give the dog the internal medication.
You give them the collar.
You should be good.
Even if they bite, they die.
The thing is the problem, these nymphs are so small, they're the size of a goddamn poppy seed.
Yeah.
So you can't see these things.
So, I mean, there's nothing we can do against these things.
And this year, supposedly, this is happening so fast, but people are starting to suspect that there's something nefarious going on.
Like, that there's just so many that it just seems unnatural.
It seems like, and there was this one instance where they found a briefcase full of tick somewhere, Jesse, if you look.
Really?
Yeah, they found a brief, like it's.
very suspicious stuff going on with these ticks.
And so it's like, it's this intentionally being done.
And I am of, I am of the conspiracy that it is.
Yeah, I mean, I don't like that.
I don't like seeing ticks.
And listen, if there's going to be, here's the thing, because what we want to talk about
today is Thomas Jefferson in state's rights.
And if this state is not going to get its ticks under control, then I'll move it to
another state.
That's right.
This is a very interesting topic we're going to talk about today.
we're talking about the United States of America and why it is the United States.
People often forget that it is the United States of America, meaning each state is kind of like its own country.
Yes.
And ultimately, you have to admit that's been a good thing because it keeps the balance.
You see how hard it is to unite places.
Right.
Europe. It's hard, right?
Of course, they got all the different cultures and languages and stuff like that, you know, but the USSR.
Everyone tries.
But the United States, South America couldn't do it.
And we had an episode about that.
You had a very viral clip on that.
Yeah.
We have theories of why that didn't work.
Yeah.
But in the United States, and the United States, it's worked.
And it was because of this, you know, fundamental disagreement between Thomas Jefferson
and the federalists who were Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.
Yeah.
Which became a school where kids would beat you up.
It's just what it is.
And so now what you're seeing is because Thomas Jefferson,
wanted this, he said that having states' rights
would create a competitive... And he wanted to
keep his slaves. It's just what it is. He had
600 slaves. He had 600 slaves. And the kid also lived
a life of luxury, spent a lot of money.
He liked toots and bruise.
And he liked toots, bruise and he likes slave
poos puss. But you know the kid was
Thomas Jefferson, the kid was from the first family
of one of Virginia's first families.
I mean, the kid was rich, rich, rich.
He was really rich. He was like a Vanderbilt.
Yes. And he was over a Monticello
and he liked to bang out his slaves.
Big. Sally Hemmings got banged out.
Big.
There's some.
And she was underage.
She was underage.
And there's just some, there are some progeny walking around who look like Derek Jeter, who are related to Thomas Jefferson.
And it's S.
Lo.
K. S.
It's what it is.
And he was, Jefferson and his allies formed the Democratic Republican Party, which is cute, cute.
So you don't know what they were.
They're Democrats and Republicans.
But the thing that he said was, was Jefferson.
was Jefferson, was Jefferson, he said that, you know, states rights, you know, you having each state compete with each other is better for my mulatto slaves, pusses tight.
It's what it is and it probably was.
Because he was, because now what's happening is, you know, all these stories where like everybody's just leave, you know, they say the wealthy are living in New York to go to Florida, you know, to other southern states.
And so this problem, Jefferson foresaw this problem.
He said, if you don't have states competing with each other, then the wealthy are just going to pick up and leave and your nation's going to begin to crumble.
So you start to look at it and say it makes sense.
Like now you're at, now, like we live in theoretically in New York the way we get, the way people get taxed.
Or you live in a different country than if you live in Florida, you know, you just do.
Like this, it's, you can't, you can't sugarcoat it anymore.
The really wealthy people, like multi, multi, multi, multi millionaires, it doesn't make any sense for them to live in New York or California.
It just doesn't anymore.
It makes more sense for them to live in Florida and they can come to New York.
And so that needs to change because Jefferson was saying, because he was all about state's rights, that the whole idea of if states, state competitive with each other and they all have little advantages and disadvantages, it'll make the national product that much better, where now you're going to just have, you know, it get lopsided, and everything is going to go to Florida and New York's going to suffer. And that's going to make our country hurt.
Right. I mean, I think they both had good points. And I think the mix of the two created the greatest country that the world has ever known.
you know,
Alexander Hamilton and Madison and John Jay
were like,
you need a strong federal government
to become a national powerhouse.
Right.
So they were thinking about the economics.
And I think Jefferson was thinking more
about like the governance of it
going like you need to have,
you can't have an overarching
ruler over all these local places
that are very different.
Right.
And that's going to foster rebellion
and things like that.
So you've got to allow places
to rule themselves,
locally because people are different, cultures are different, economies are different, and this is the
best way to make this work and for everyone to get along. And I think ultimately that's what's happened.
People think there's going to be a civil war. People think we're going to break up. It's not going
to happen because both these guys have great points and we live in the compromise of the two of them,
right? Right. So it's like we would have a civil war if you didn't have options, right? So if you
couldn't move to Florida or if you didn't like abortion laws here, which is a problem, you know,
with the federalists is when like, I'm sorry, with the state's rights is when like you start
taking away people's rights and stuff like that. There's weaknesses on both sides. But you can move
someplace else. You can go, I'm going to move here where it's more like what I like. Right.
You know? And so you need that. You can't just go, hey, this is the right way. This is the wrong way.
People are different. People got different cultures. People have different beliefs. And if we're
going to make this experiment work, we got to have a balance of both. We can have a
And these slave-owning white men figured it out.
They really did.
They said, all men are free, except for my slaves.
It's what it is, because they said it was very interesting that Thomas Jefferson, when they were writing, you know, when he was writing a Declaration of Independence, I mean, he was just surrounded by slaves and he would openly read the document out to his friends.
And he's talking about how everyone's free and everyone has rights to be free except the people standing in the corners.
He was one of the authors, and I think he actually penned the line, All Men are Created Equal.
It's what it is.
It is.
It is all what it is.
He goes, All men are created equal.
Some of them are in my employment for no payment.
Yeah, it's just against their will.
Against their will.
And Salon Hamings getting banged out.
Now here's the thing, though, James Madison, John Jay and Alexander Hamilton.
See, this is the thing when you hear like these kids now go like, these slave-owning white men, they were against slavery.
Yeah.
I think James Madison only had one any freedom.
Right.
But they were all very against slavery.
The other two, no, John Jay had the fewest, I think.
Right.
And Madison only had like a few.
And Alexander Hamilton freed his.
but they were all wrote against slavery
and they hated it and they didn't want it.
Right.
So it's like, you know,
not everyone was the same.
Right.
So these guys wanted to get rid of it
and that was, you know,
a hundred plus years before it happened
or a hundred years before it happened.
So it's like, you know,
people aren't the same.
No.
We're not, we're very different.
Just like we found out from our guests.
We're all different.
Yeah, we're all different.
And, you know, we'll say it again.
The patron is a snoozer.
So what, you need to,
you know, you can zoom in on them tities,
but the Patriots is snoozer.
So we're not going to sugarcoat it.
It's a snoozy-wozy.
And it's the first time in the history of the show where our producer Nick yelled at us about it.
And the thing is, ironically, he said never again.
And I was like, well, that's her people.
That's her people.
And the truth is, is I had no rebuttal because Nick's right.
So, you know, it's one thing if somebody steps out of line and they say, but I said, Nick, I concur, my friend.
But I absolutely, if I single,
we'd have to tackle all this.
Well, cackle all that.
Yeah, if you scroll down a little bit, Jesse.
So, yeah.
So, you know, here's the thing about Jefferson is the kid was just a,
he was a bit of a conundrum because he's saying, you know,
everybody'd be free except the slaves.
And then he also says, states rights, states rights.
But when, you know, when it worked for him to expand the federal power,
that's what he did.
Like, you know, Louisiana Purchase, he was just like, listen.
Yeah.
I know I said everything about states rights, but I'm just going to get the government galvanized.
We're buying Louisiana.
We're just buying it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, he also, he was morally opposed to it in his writings, though.
Yeah, at least.
So it was a complicated thing.
Yeah, I mean, what a nice guy.
But, you know, it was a different time.
So it was like slavery, it was just, it's what was happening around you.
Right.
So it was like.
Why is your phone going off?
What is that?
People, so probably my brother just constantly calling in.
It's just what it is.
Yeah, I mean, a kid just calls over and over and over and over again.
And it's just what it is.
Now, what would your brother do if you saw them tities?
Which one?
My oldest one?
My oldest brother?
Yeah, I know.
He would just be look at her outfit.
Yeah.
No, your oldest brother would try to get in there.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, he tried to get in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, he cheated on his girlfriend.
Did he?
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did.
Yeah.
He caused big thing up there.
It's what it is.
Yeah.
And her family was very mad at it.
It's just what it is.
And he said, hey, what are you got to do?
I got to get this noodle wet.
Yeah, it's just what is.
The student's not going to wet it.
She's not going to answer.
Yeah.
That's very funny.
Yeah.
So this is an interesting topic because it's happening now.
Like it keeps the country dynamic.
So it never gets stagnant.
Like you said, there's competition on different policies in different states and people can vote with their feet, which keeps, you know, it gives people options when they feel like they don't like something.
Vote with the feet mean they can move.
Yeah.
That's an expression saying people vote with their feet.
Right.
So if, you know, you see like Detroit, right?
Like a lot of people don't know, yes, the auto industry left.
But then what happened is it became heavily regulated place.
And there was, you know, it became very left wing, so to speak.
Right, right, right.
I'm just trying to figure out what to say it.
And the city got destroyed.
You know, Seattle right now is fucking 35% empty commercial, really.
estate in Seattle.
And the new mayor just said, they were like, what do you think about these businesses leaving?
She went, bye, and like, they pissed people off.
Mom, Dami's doing the same thing.
Sometimes, you know, inequality gets too much.
Right.
Bring it a little socialism, and that helps.
So, you know, you can move.
It's dynamic.
And that's the thing about capitalism with all its flaws is it's dynamic.
So is this sort of arrangement of states' rights is it keeps things dynamic.
Right. Another place gets hot. I mean, Tennessee's bubbling right now. Nashville's hot. Miami's hot. You know, um, uh, Austin's hot. Like,
different cities that were like not hot have become hot. And New York, unfortunately, is experiencing a massive exodus.
So what can New York do? Is there any, can New York all of a sudden, like, with states right stuff? Can New York all of a sudden say, okay, we're going to lower our taxes or they can't do that?
Well, here's the thing about New York. New York is interesting because New York has New York City. So it's, it's,
New York is really about New York City.
Right.
Right.
It's like New York's about the governor of New York, the state.
It's like really you're the governor.
Everyone's the governor in New York City.
It's like as important as anything in the country.
So it's a very, it's a very complicated thing because you've got a lot of people here.
Everyone wants to be here.
You have people who are a little more working class, but you also have the richest people here.
Right.
And we already have the highest taxes, I think, in the country.
Yeah.
most progressive tax rate in the country, the highest taxes on rich people.
So, Momdami's saying we need to do more of that, even more to fix it.
And then people on the other side are going like, they do that over there.
In Los Angeles, it's not working.
It's not, you still have a homeless problem.
You still have inequality, and you've raised taxes.
It doesn't work.
We need to cut spending.
And then some people who say that this doesn't work, you're not going to take my taxes.
What they do is they move to North Carolina.
North Carolina is popping now.
Right.
So you don't know.
You don't know. Maybe mom, Dami will work. It's not going too long term. I can almost guarantee you that. Sure. It's always a short term little, and then it long term. Long term. Yeah. Socialism's too static. And the thing is if, you know, for people that don't know, like Texas and Florida have no state income tax. So, you know, California, New York, you know, every, you know, you make money, whatever tax you're in, you have to basically pay a rental fee to the state of New York for working and living here. That's basically what that is. And Texas and Florida don't have that. Well, they make it up in. So, you know, they make it up in.
sales tax and other taxes, but the net tax burden is much less in those places.
Right. That's the thing. It's like, you know, you could take the numbers and it's like, okay,
you have to pay a little bit more taxes for alcohol and food in Florida, but that doesn't equal,
you know, think about an income tax for a multi, multi-millionaire. It doesn't equal anything
close to that. Right. So, yeah. What I like about it, too, is it's like there's always rhetoric.
There's always rhetoric. There's always people have their positions. But what this system enables
is that this cuts through all the rhetoric.
People will go, hey, it's good, it's bad.
You just go, here's the numbers of the out-net migration.
Here is the middle credit.
You just go, people are voting with their feet.
So no matter what you're saying, or you're saying on both sides,
these are the results.
Right.
Your tax base is dwindling because you're losing all these middle-to-upper-income people.
And that, so New York City has lost billions and billions and dollars of tax revenue
because of the cost of living and more so.
pull this is because of the level of taxes.
Because it's at the end of the day, what's the universal language?
Numbers. Numbers and math. Okay. It's the same, you know, very microcosmic way.
It's the same story, you know, with like managers and agents of the entertainment business.
You say to yourself, you know, the manager wants to take 10% and you say, okay, well, I've been with
you for five years. Here's the amount of money. Here's the amount of money that I've given you.
What is the amount of money you've made me? Right. And then when they see the number of
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Sure.
Or they don't mention Oprah, or they don't mention Dr. Dre, or they don't mention Jay Z and his wife. And the list goes on.
Right.
So it's really like this talking point of like white male billionaires.
Sure.
Because there's like, are you talking, like, so AOC, are you mad at LeBron?
Why don't you bring, why aren't you mad at LeBron?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did he not earn that?
Yeah.
Did he not earn a billion dollars?
Did LeBron not earn a billion dollars?
Yeah.
How come you don't bring him up?
How come it's always just, you know, Citadel or J.P. Morgan or whatever it is.
So I think the loophole specifically, and my point is like, what about the guy who's making
$30 million, $30 million, $5 million, $2 million?
We don't live in this.
this proletariat bourgeoisie kind of these neat little boxes of industrialists and workers anymore.
It's a service-based economy.
And there's a myriads of salaries, right, or incomes or worths.
The thing that billionaires do is they do this nifty little thing that their accountant helps them with.
First of all, they write a tax code that benefits them.
Sure.
And so what they do is they'll take their worth and they throw it in stock.
Yeah.
And then they'll borrow against the stock so it's not taxable.
So they don't pay the same rate everybody else.
does. Right. And they look at it and go, look at all the other stuff I do. Right. Which that part is true.
Right. So they have a point there. But then also you're going, why don't we just fix that?
Right. Why don't we just not allow you to do that anymore? Right. Where, because that's a little
nifty loophole. Yeah. So what they're doing is they're putting their money in stock. You can't
tax stock. But then people will go, oh, but when they sell it, they'll pay tax on that. But you're going,
yeah, it could go down. And also you're going, we don't need the money in 40 years. Or when
and they never take it out
because their kids keep borrowing against the wealth
and they're just living off of borrowed wealth
and they're not paying taxes and it's a nice loophole.
So if you just close that one fucking loophole,
then all these momdommies go away.
Go away.
Yeah.
Right, Nick?
That's all it takes.
So me for fucking mayor.
Yes.
Me for mayor.
Let's close that one fucking loophole
and then everyone will shut the fuck up.
That's what it is.
Do you agree?
I do agree.
And I also, I also, look,
I also know,
that I'm not worth
freaking $100 million, not even close.
I know though that
I went through
New York City school system.
My mom barely, you know,
got by, worked hard,
whatever. I don't have any silver spoons.
I don't come from any family money. And it's like
the information is out there for you to learn
yourself how to, you know,
pay taxes, how to invest your money.
Like, you know, but you're deciding
to go out and buy
Jordans you can't afford. That's just
what you're deciding to do. So, so you're, it's your fault. Or, or, or on sneakers, or on clouds,
or new balance, yeah, or, or, you know, loafers, you know, or, or, honey, you know, you're the
one deciding to spend eight grand on Nick's tickets. Yeah. You, you, you, you know, yes, I, I, just like,
I, you know, if I, if, if they, if I don't get into the game, I watch a game from the home. Yes.
So my thing is like, that is true too.
Why is it?
Why?
I also look at the billionaires and I, and yeah, they pay a lot of tax, the taxes, the loopholes, whatever.
But I see, what's that guy got to do with me?
I got to figure it out for myself, guy.
Right.
But how come so many people don't want to just try to figure it out for themselves?
We have all the information.
All you ever hear is AI, this, I or that.
Why don't you ask this fucking thing how to get out of, how to get out of squalor, you piece of shit?
We got two good examples.
You know what I was trying to say, though?
I know exactly what you're saying.
Like, how is it anybody, how is it any other human's fault that?
you can't fucking figure it out.
You're actually making a strong point that I can't.
I'd say a big portion of it is that as well.
Yeah.
It's like, listen, we got two guys sitting right here.
Both of them are kind of artists that don't make money.
Right.
Right?
And they figured it out and they pivoted.
And now we got two producers who are making some money.
We're making some money and they figured it the fuck out.
What do you say it out?
Did you make money on a Shakespearean play?
I did not.
Yeah.
Jesse makes a couple of dollars selling sculptures, but it's not enough, right?
Right.
I got money.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Yeah, because he put it in the stock market.
Oh, yeah.
Jesse does have money.
Yeah, Jesse.
Yeah.
And so my thing is, is like, my thing is, is like, we have to, what I'm saying is we got
pivot.
Right.
You've got to be dynamic.
You've got to figure it out.
The new economy emerges, you know, this is the new fucking entertainment business.
If you're an artist, we need clippers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just saying it's like there's a lot of opportunity in podcasts my thing is just you know you look
online and people just complain complain complain and I just I've always thought like I know I'm not
where I need to be I know I you know could be more successful I have peers that make much much much much
much much much more money than because you're doing very well but even when I was a physical therapist
even when I was a physical therapist making 40 grand a year I was like this is the career I chose
I'm trying to do it and then I was like okay I'm not going to be able to make the money I thought so
I pivoted out, but it's like, I always thought like, do I have something different about me?
Do I, and the answer is no. I just am not complaining about my fellow human, I'm not blaming
anything on my fellow human being getting something that I think I deserve. I'm just, I don't
know why I never did that. And to me, it's always just like a thing where I'm like, all I do is
hear people complain about their lives and they blame it on everybody else but themselves.
It's like what, it's a very simple concept. It's your fault. When I fuck up in my life, I just know that it's
my fault. I never blame it on anybody else. Because it's a real easy way to get attention and attention
now is currency. So the squeaky wheel gets to grease and that is what is what has created a
grievance culture because it is actually monetized. You can monetize your grievance. You can,
you know, you can have an enemy and scream at them and start a fight or blame people and you can
get attention that way and that attention turns into dollars. When you blame something and you find
an enemy, you turned it into dollars. And that's the economy right now while we're in this limbo
between the economy of the early 2000s and the one that's emerging where it's going to be a little
bumpy. Because what's happened is a lot of these people have invested $100, $150,000, $200,000 in an
education that means absolutely dittly squat. A lot of those people would like to be sitting in
Nick's seat right now. And that's just the economy. And I'd like to go back to the early 2000s. I
and like that economy.
Way song she ain't.
Just what it is.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
No, but my thing is...
Yeah.
That's what it's called that economy.
Yeah.
Buy, borrow, die.
It's a legal tax strategy used by the ultra wealthy
to preserve a transfer fortune.
So how it works is do you buy,
you purchase highly appreciating non-liquid assets.
You let them grow over time.
You don't know any taxes on the growth.
I understand that,
the unrealized growth.
You borrow, this is what Jesse taught me.
This is what Jesse does.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Borrow, then you use these appreciated assets as collateral to take out low interest loans.
Yes.
Such as securities base line of credit.
Okay.
The IRS does not tax the borrowed cash, giving a living expense without a taxable event.
This is, yeah, and then you die and you pass the assets onto the, onto your area.
It's not cool.
It's not cool.
It's not cool.
Yeah.
That's the one loophole they need to close because they wrote the tax code like this so they
could do this.
Because basically, if Jeff Bezos or Ilom Musk comes,
to the bank and says, give me this loan.
Are you going to say no? You know what he's worth.
Right. You know your money's good and you're making money on the interest.
Right. So you're just going, yeah. And for them, it's basically free money because they get a low
interest loan because the risk is so low. Right. Right. Because you know Elon Musk can pay it back.
He owns fucking everything. And then this, so this guy's basically living off of borrowed money.
Right. That's essentially risk free and he's not paying taxes. So it's a loophole that they all
benefit from. That's just, it's a little not fair. Right. It's a little.
little not fair and all you got to do is close this one loophole and then what can people complain about.
Yeah.
Because billionaires do pay an exorbitant amount of taxes.
Not only do they do that, they help, they create the economy.
I'm not even going to say they help the economy.
They create the economy and they also create the ancillary and tertiary economy because if you open an Amazon thing in Long Island City, then the Delhi owners are eating.
They got more business and the bus has more business.
The city has more business.
There's more jobs and those jobs are tax.
There's more sales tax.
And there's more money flowing into the city.
Yes, it makes perfect sense.
Even the other day I saw that Elon Musk, who sometimes his timetables are wrong, sometimes he'll
be like, like he said, oh, we're going to have self-driving cars by like 2017.
He was a few years off, but we do have self-driving cars.
Then he wanted to land the rocket, you know, the self-propelling rocket.
He was a few years off.
But he said, so he might be a few years off.
But what is that?
These are nicotine toothpicks, but I had to empty them out so I could spit my
Zin into it. It's just what it is.
We don't have a garbage
gate at this room. Yeah, I know.
I know. Well, you want to throw it in that hutch in the
bag? You would have put all these nicotine toothpicks
in your mouth so we have something to play for?
Because this is probably about 300...
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300 milligram. It's nicotine right here.
Yeah, it's just what it is. I like to give these to rain, man,
to count. Yeah, it's just what it is.
Yeah. So,
so
Elon must, though, just said the other day that
he fully expects
by the year 2030
there to be a colony of close to
100,000 people living
on Mars. And so
even if he's wrong about that, do you know
the amount of jobs
building a colony on Mars is going to create?
It will single-handedly
reverse any type of unemployment
crisis we have. Because the billionaire
is, you know, she call him an asshole,
Tesla, whatever. It's all just,
it's all, you don't understand. He's the one
giving you the fucking money. No. He's the one that's going to
give you an opportunity. And guys like him. I have to admit something and it's just the truth
of what I've observed. Because I have talked to a lot of younger, you know, I, I'm curious.
So I talk to the younger mom-dami people or I talk to the younger people. Because listen, young
people voted them in. Same thing in Seattle. You look at the polling numbers. It's under 30.
The majority of them, he got voted in by people under 30 who are social media savvy.
He's a social media candidate.
So I will say this, and I say this confidently, because I'm not a business person.
I'm a comedian.
I've had to learn business as I'm like, we all have.
We've learned the business of comedy, but I don't know how to run a store.
No, yeah.
We have learned about these things, about investing and things like that as we've gone.
So I know very little.
But when you speak to these people, I have to admit every single one that I've talked to, they don't know what
they're talking about.
Right.
I'm just being honest.
Like, they just don't understand, they don't understand, and they don't understand the
numbers.
You say things and they just aren't unaware of it.
You go, New York City is already the most tax.
They don't know these things.
Right.
They just go like, everything's too expensive, but they don't understand that everything
has consequences.
You know, there's no absolute solution.
They think if you just tax the billionaires another 2%, that these problems are going
to go away.
You look at Los Angeles where they've done that, and they had a massive outmigration.
And now they're going to vote in a Republican mayor.
But it hasn't changed the inequality, and it hasn't changed the home.
They spend billions of dollars on homelessness.
It's the worst it's ever been.
Same thing in Seattle.
Portland, it doesn't fucking work.
These things have historically just a bad track record.
The data does not look good.
Those are just hard numbers.
And you can keep what do you, so then they come up with another excuse.
It's almost like what communist said.
They go, well, it was because we never had a pure form of it.
It just keep moving the goalposts as they just won't.
Nobody will admit that they're wrong.
Right.
Nobody will admit that it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
And Spencer Pratt has my vote.
Is he going to win the mayor?
I don't know.
I don't be the mayor.
I don't care about Los Angeles at all.
Yeah, I don't kind of be either.
I don't care who becomes, yeah.
When Tim starts talking to me about Los Angeles politics, I go, you don't understand something.
I'm a New Yorker I'm concerned about New York.
Yeah.
I'm concerned about New York.
I'm concerned about this country.
I don't like Los Angeles.
Yeah.
I don't care who wins.
I don't care if it's Karen Bass, Spencer Pratt, whatever.
The truth is it doesn't matter.
We're just trying to get Mom Donnie out.
The truth is that what just happened is there was an independent movie made by two YouTubers who, it's a horror movie that just is making more money than fucking Star Wars.
Oh, what's the crazy?
Backroom. Did you see it?
Somebody just texted me the, said to go Google the trailer of it.
But does it look good?
I don't know, dude.
But it is, I mean, did you hear what I just said?
Yeah.
It outperformed Star Wars.
This is it. Star Wars.
And they made the whole thing on YouTube?
They made it for a budget of what?
10 million.
And they self-produced it.
So this is the future.
It's like the studios just don't.
Now the numbers are coming in.
We knew this already because we have friends.
Is that really a fact, though?
It's kind of all over the news.
But roughly 10?
Okay.
The budget of 10 minutes.
and it grossed over 118-mil globally,
but Star Wars had to gross more than that.
It's beat Star Wars.
It beats Star Wars.
Yeah, it's beat Star Wars.
Because they just came out.
So it's still going to continue to make money.
Oh, wait, there's a Star Wars movie out right now?
Yeah, you didn't even know it, and that's the point.
Huh?
Nobody likes it.
Oh, yes, I don't even know that there was a Star Wars movie out.
Do you remember there was a time where you wouldn't know that there was a Star Wars movie out?
Wow.
You can't be the Native American who doesn't understand the ship.
Right.
The ships are here.
Yes, Star Wars did 81.5 million.
So it's just, and you know how much?
And it's opening weekend.
Yes.
And how much did Star Wars cost?
What was the budget?
You don't got to be a mathematician to understand.
Cost 160 mil to produce.
Yeah.
There's cost 10.
So there you go.
So we had evidence of this in the, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in
smaller level in comedy, right?
Where you go in like, when, like, when, like, for example, when flagrant two started
hitting a million, you just do the math and you're going like, all right, so how much
of their sponsorship checks?
Big.
They're Patreon, big.
They're touring numbers as a result of the visibility.
One of them, you're like, wow, that really helped him.
Yeah.
And you go, these guys are making real money, and it's just not viable.
The amount of eyeballs they're getting are numbers that are comparable or better than most TV budgets.
And those TV shows, and those TVs have exorbitant budgets.
So you can do all the protests you want about Stephen Colbert and whatever.
But if he can only draw six.
million on his finale with the biggest stars and everyone tuning into support, the medium is just dead.
It's just moved on.
Yeah, yeah.
People go all, you know, it was a hit political hit job.
It's going.
It's going away anyway.
And it's like it might have been, but the numbers just don't make, you can't.
It's going away.
The budget's too big.
It's too big.
It's going away.
Bad friends, you know, biggest podcast is hilarious.
You know, our good friends, Dan Santino and Bobby Lee.
And I saw that just doing a game show because of the success of their podcast, they just
produced the game show.
That's right.
They're not waiting for you.
you know, the price is right to call them.
They're like, we'll just do our own thing.
No, they wouldn't do that because it would take forever.
They'd lose money.
They'd have to hire all these people.
They use your own money.
You can put it on YouTube.
You get ad revenue.
You can do it.
You can sell it somewhere, have it go on YouTube and there.
It's just, this is the era of you're your own studio.
And it's just, it's going to continue that way.
I mean, once you see a movie come out with Eddie Murphy that no one's even
heard of, you go, it's over.
I mean, that used to be the biggest news.
Eddie Murphy's making a movie?
He's only made like four in like 40 years or something.
that like bow finger then he did like the coms he had and then like he disappears for a long time
and then he does one with pete davidson and it bombs nobody even knows it's out you're going like oh
it's not their fault it's just that the eyeballs are someplace else and and the mainstream is now
online and with streamers and no longer with traditional studios and it's and and it's just the way you
got the thing is is the traditional studios are the seem like I mean some of the head hodges
Ted serendos I'm sure knows this but some of these executives have to
know that their days are numbered with the job.
There is no job opportunity.
That's right.
Netflix is a stream.
You have to remember Netflix is like YouTube.
It's a streamer.
Right.
So it's just a network.
Netflix is doing great.
Who knows what their bottom line is, but their investors are, you know, they've raised
a lot of money.
They're doing fine, but they're all streamers.
It's a tech takeover.
I mean, Amazon Prime is tech.
Like Hollywood was in Los Angeles.
It was TV.
It was cable.
It was a broadcasting studio way.
It wasn't independent.
it was a whole big cruise ship.
Now it's like independent.
Boom, you get big.
And then they give you money to be on their platform
because you can be on many platforms.
Nobody has the monopoly anymore of like five or six studios
and 10 studios or 10 networks, 15 networks.
They're owned by one.
Viacom owns 15 of them.
Those days are just over.
It's a speedboat era.
It's what it is.
And that's how it applies to Thomas Jefferson
and states rights.
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they moved to Puerto Rico. Theo Vaughan moves to Tennessee. The biggest comedian in the country
lives in Nashville, right? Joe Rogan, the biggest media.
comedian in the country, the most famous,
moved from California.
He lives in Austin.
And the only reason they moved is because of states rights because of the income tax.
You could say what you want.
They didn't move for any other reason, Tom Seguer.
It was taxes and states rights, which is what Thomas Jefferson said would happen if you don't
create this competitive advantage.
So what these places needed to do, like New York, L.A., whatever, is see the writing on
the wall and lower their taxes.
A should have did the opposite.
They needed to make it more.
They got so, see, they get cocky and confident, and they go, we're New York, we're L.A.
Everyone wants to be here, which is very true.
And they're going, you have to be here to make it.
But now with the way the digital economy has changed it with remote working, especially after COVID,
and how everything has become decentralized, you do not need to be in New York or Los Angeles
to make it in entertainment or law or finance.
There's plenty of people who work from home who live in the Carolinas, we still have their job in New York.
So it's sort of like the arrogance of New York and Los Angeles
They need to do something to attract people
So what do you think they're gonna how do we get how do you get people this is the only way?
Lips lowering taxes?
It's always been that way
But they'll never have they ever once lowered tax?
Jesse have they ever lowered taxes in New York ever in your life all the time
Like lowered but for real?
Yeah, I think the tax rate was really high in the 70s they brought it down
It fluctuates depending on who's but like big like in a major way
Like they'll never go to no state.
income tax here. They can't do that. Probably not. It depends on who they elect, but yeah.
And is that because we have so many people that live here? Like we need the programs, the,
you know, Medicaid and all that stuff? Yeah. I mean, demand in New York is always going to be high.
So, but you see these other states that they compete, right? Because they want to,
they want to have growth and build there. But New York has always relied on its infrastructure.
It's, it's fame as a city. So if that goes away, but New York has been through many lives.
But this tax, the taxes in New York right now are the highest they've ever been in the history.
It's the highest in the country. Right. It's the highest in the country already before Mom Dami came in. Right. I think it's the highest rate in the country. And the most progressive. Right. So it's like, yeah, if you're rich, you pay the highest amount of taxes to live here. To live here. Right. And people, and the rich did that because New York is the shit. Right. Right. Like, so New York is like the Netflix of now or the NBC that it used to be. Right. But now you're seeing, I mean, we have a massive, we've lost billions of dollars.
is the tax revenue. The real issue is who's not coming, right? Like if this doesn't become a business
friendly city, who's not going to come? Who's not going to want to build their business here?
Who's not going to want to have their corporate headquarters here? Well, I worry about that just as
the United States in general. I mean, you know, you look at like how much war we're involved in and
always whatever the wars with Israel. Fine. But it's like, you know, I saw this thing where a lot of
these first world countries, little deals. They're making like little energy deals. Like Amsterdam
will make a little energy deal with China.
these other countries that make little deals with China
because they're looking at China being like
they're not war mongering country
they just build infrastructure
and want to just you know
they just want to be involved financially
where the United States like yeah we'll give you money
but then also you're fighting wars with us
so I wonder like I worry a little bit about that
like my kids lives where I'm like is the United States
is it going to be a thing where the red
because if the rest of the world turns around
it's like why are we going to keep messing with these guys
that could happen and then you're really fucked
and then who's going to buy my house
That's just this administration.
Once we get past this administration,
you think?
Yeah.
That's just Trump doing something that is ruffled a lot of feathers and shifted a lot of things now.
But thankfully, we have a, and maybe long term historians will look back and say that was a necessary move because of the balance of power things.
Or it's just something that'll be another three more years or two and a half more years.
And that's the great thing about America.
And then a new administration.
It's up to the people.
I mean, the people can vote in someone else and things can change.
course, we could continue to
fucking pay for NATO and start
doing things can change. And that's why what have we been saying
every week here, Nick, on this podcast, two words
Jesus saves and who likes Jesus?
J.D. Vantz, he will save us.
So we'll see what happens.
I mean, look, you know, you vote. I mean, people
like Mondami, like he got elected.
So you have to respect the people that elected them
and go, hey, let's see how
it works. Let's see how it goes. Maybe we're wrong.
This is what the people want.
Historically, you just look
at the data objectively. It doesn't
seem to work for cities well. It doesn't seem to fix the problems it's claims it's going to
fix. But maybe it will. Who knows? We're going to see. You know, maybe his, it's called
Zoron Magic. Maybe it'll see. But the good thing is, and what we're talking about today,
is that there's options. You're not locked in anything. The worst thing that can happen to
anyone is stagnation. Right. That's why often, that's why communism doesn't work,
because it's stagnant. It's centralized power. It doesn't move. You need competition. You need
disagreement, you need movement, you need options, you need freedom.
You need flowing, baby.
That's why I was going to buy a house in Massapequa, Long Island, because it was by the
water.
And then the realtor said, listen, I want you to buy a house, but I just want to let you know,
remind you that the water that you see it out there, it's stagnant.
So what does stagnant water bring?
Mosquitoes.
Yes.
So you can, that reason why the house is not that expensive is because it's stagnant water.
Yeah.
He said, you want to be by water that's moving, flow and water.
Like ocean.
Like ocean water.
Or a river water.
Yeah, the only thing that hurts mosquitoes is wind.
It's wind, right?
Wind, that's it's what it is.
That's why you learn this when you live out in the country,
any little stagnant pool of water you have outside,
you've got water.
And even if it's in like a pot, right?
If you got a pot of plant out there and the water builds up
because it's an empty pot, even if it's a little water,
that becomes a nest for mosquitoes.
So you always want to get rid of any standing water outside your house.
Well, that's why Jasmine always, you know,
I gotta give you, she's smart because a lot of people, you know, they always have the mosquito things,
the candles and she has all that stuff. But every time we're sitting outside, because she says
you just learned it growing up at Sunset Park, she's always got two fans outside. If we're sitting
down the table, the fans are just blowing and your hair will blow away and it's a little uncomfortable,
but you never get hit by a mosquito. They can't land. They just, because you think that force is
too much for their little mosquito shit bodies. Yeah, I mean, the fans are basically ice for
mosquitoes. It's what it is. Keeps them out. Keeps them out. Keeps them out. So this has been,
the founding of our country was based on, you know, states rights versus the federal government.
Yeah.
It's just they wrote the federalist papers and Thomas Jefferson was a kid.
He even called Virginia his country.
He just loved Virginia.
So I think, look, in my opinion, I think they both make valid points.
They both have vulnerabilities.
But together, the balance of it kind of works.
It just kind of works.
And that's why, you know, I'll be talking about states rights in Philadelphia, July 10th and 11th, go to Christy
Comedy.com for tickets.
I'm going back to Philadelphia, because founding of it all.
The founding of it all, I mean, because I got to be honest with you, I'm very excited because
I got a few dates this summer and every single one I could drive to.
Yeah.
Stanford, Connecticut, Philadelphia, Portland, Maine.
I mean, we're just driving, baby Atlantic City.
Yeah.
Right?
It's just nice to be able to drive to.
Yeah.
I don't want to get on a plane anymore.
It's very nice.
Even I got a wedding this weekend in Martha's Vineyard.
I'm going to drive.
It's very nice.
I sag after call.
me. Let's pick it up and see.
Your payment at SAG after. I'm not giving
you any fucking money.
No, you know what I think it is?
I think my, I think my do, you know, like the SAG after dues, but my thing, why am I
paying my, what do you fucking do for me?
Do they give you health care for a discounted price?
Well, no, because I didn't make enough money specifically in SAG after, so I pay for
my own health insurance. I just get out of it, yeah.
I pay for my own health insurance. That's the only reason to be in it.
Fucking scum. To remind you that the deadline to pay your made dues is quickly approaching.
Yeah.
Oh, but if I don't pay the dues, do I get kicked?
Oh, so is my health insurance discounted through SAG after?
It should be.
Yeah, you should have some sort of rate.
Yeah, but I didn't qualify for health insurance.
Like, I'm paying my own health insurance.
So then no, then there's might as well go to Obamacare.
It's what it is.
What do you do now?
Obamacare.
Well, no, I have Anthem health insurance and my card says SAG after.
Say you say, say you.
So pay your dues and you continue that.
Well, do the math.
Did you do the math?
I didn't do the math.
I didn't do the math.
So now you sound like a mom dummy voter.
Did you actually do the math?
Yeah, I did it. See you're going to eat your words. All right, guys, I got to go get my foot looked at.
The doctors think I have a little salmon on my Achilles called a Hagland's Deformity, so we're going to find out.
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Eric Siemens.
Then we got Janus, aka Rocky from Project Hail Mary.
Have you seen Project Hail Mary?
No.
The thing is, it's just an alien rock that can talk, and it doesn't have eyes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chick-a-figure.
All right, yeah.
Steve, then we got Yanni Eye Doctor versus Christy's therapist, who you got?
Odell two giants
O'Dell Beckham Jr's going back to the Giants
Wow
Yeah
That's pretty sick
He's old and then
Yeah, he's old and we don't need it
Yeah
And the
All the gay clubs are going to get
More money pumped into that
I mean he's just a gay kid
Mitchell
Then we got white man
Black dad
Do I have the N pass
I still think no
White mom
White man
Black dad
Do I have the N pass
So he's a white man
So is it his real dad
Then you have the Mpass?
That is a good point, yeah.
You know, the only person to ask would be Hartenstein.
He's no, because he would be the guy.
He's got a black dad?
He's got a very light-skinned black dad.
Interesting.
But he looks completely white.
But Heinstein's a Jewish name.
It's more of a German name.
Right.
Because all those Jews were Germans.
That's what it is.
Yeah, the only, there's really no Jewish names.
I kind of miss Hartinstein on the Knicks.
I kind of miss him on the Knicks too.
Yeah, it's a weird.
He's a black guy.
He must really get like some, like, hang out with the guys.
And they're like, yeah, these N-Words.
He's like, I'm one.
I'm one.
J.L. Kovin was like that, too.
Yeah, oh, yeah, I remember.
His dad was Haitian, but he looks like a white kid.
All right, so born to let it crust, forced to wipe.
Disgusting.
I'm going to directs to that because it just means he's a lazy kid.
He doesn't mind fumes.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
Then we got K.P., Danny, Jacob.
Walked in a one.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just.
You like it?
You like it, but you can't put it in lights.
But you know what?
He's walked the end of the year.
Your contention for the end of the year, because it's a good, that's a definition of a chicken figure, but it's the evil one.
It's just what it is.
But it's the definition of a short, quick, boom.
Right.
Okay.
Then we got Leroy's in Paris.
Right.
We've had.
We've had that.
Then we got confirmed ginger squeak, aka Little Red Ridingwood.
Put them on the list.
Okay, there we go.
Put them on the list.
Yep.
Very good.
Okay.
Then we got I'm against slavery
Much as the next Leroy
But what did we do with all the
Nicholas cages
Okay, I don't get it
He's a black kid trying to make a slavery joke
I don't get it
Okay
Good effort though
Yeah
Dylan James Darrow
OJ's 9 inch
Chef's knife
Okay
Way song she ain't
I mean
What do you think
Put it on the list
I mean it's funny
I guess it's kind of inventive
Yeah it's really
really creative.
Imagine selling those on an infomercial.
Yeah.
Then we got Elliot Page's
Oscar acceptance speech for best prosthetics.
Put him a last one.
That's what it is.
Yeah, it's guy.
Then we got Mombo number five dollars off
or I walk by Jubaga.
He's going for something.
I just don't know quite what it is.
Okay.
Decapitating GI Joe's in my fume garage.
Contender.
Yeah.
Contender.
Okay.
Fume garage is the asshole.
ass he's been taking, he's putting the heads of the asshole.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
Then we got Lincoln Sill.
Then we got what's your boss's job?
Leroy Shrug beats me.
Like,
Leroy Shrug beats me.
Oh, because he doesn't have a racist joke.
It's a racist joke.
Sorry.
It's a shame.
Andrew, Ryan Smith,
if the glue fits.
Then we got,
it's just if the glue fits?
If the glue fits.
That's it.
That's a setup without a punch, my guy.
If the glue fits.
Yeah.
Okay.
Instead of if the shoe fits.
He's saying if the glue fits.
Like something would just glue.
You need like a must-a-quit or something.
Okay.
Then we got Ibukakied on my shroud and now it's radioactive.
Okay.
Okay.
Austin Collin.
Eric, not a grower or a shower.
Chicken finger.
Good one.
It's just what it is.
Good wood, yeah.
Then we got female Frisbee.
Call her a wigger.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Got Ebola through my hemihull.
I don't get it.
Luce assol.
Justin Angako at
Justin Angako.com.
Screwed in.
Good for you.
Yeah.
Jam 55.
Ryan Bureh.
Mike Skrgesha.
Jeff.
Lean Lad of 14,
wean, cuisine queen.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
I'm a Drexler.
It.
Zion Hardine.
Rue monkey,
glue funky.
Mm-hmm.
I.
Illumayani.
Aluma yani is a good one.
It's not a bad one.
Chicken finger.
Andrew.
Mistook pink for stink and now I'm homeless.
Okay.
Okay.
Ajax Gallagher.
Zoran Longdongi.
Okay.
Bergen-Valestrand, Jared Mitchell,
Sam Deemers,
Mr. Goldfish,
Nick DeNapoli.
My Puerto Rican husband's glue gun makes my lips speak in Espanol.
Get past me,
Kent they.
Elliot Page's chest
looks like the Gaza Strip.
Laddivor 14.
On the list.
Yeah.
On the list.
It's blown out, right?
Yeah.
On the list. It's a walk into one, but it's funny.
Yeah.
Flatened is what they're saying.
Yeah, it's just what it is.
Yeah.
Yaya's cookies.
Then we got Captain one-eyed Chrissy,
aka this skin text.
Interesting.
Then we got,
then we got Mujer.
and the Fuhr, aka Jazzy and Chrissy Big.
Stephanie Garlic, not Gaga.
Wayshan Shian de list for P.W.
Okay.
If it's not tight enough, you can stick it in my neck.
That's weird.
I get it.
Okay.
2026 Festival of...
Hey.
Didn't you fuck that.
Yeah.
I thought you were talking about music.
Boy.
That's what it is.
Sometimes.
It's funny because the.
eyes go first and the brain catches it.
And they spelled it J-A-ZZ.
Oh, so they got you good. Yeah, it's just jazz.
There was festival. There was music.
They were intentionally trying to get you.
Yes, what it is. Then we got Yanni gets both eyes on the brown eye.
Okay.
The guy who cleaned up Pee-E-Herman's jizz tongue.
Drexler. It's a good job. Somebody actually did that.
Yeah. Mexican bug chaser call me a free holy.
Okay. Freeholde. Okay. Richard.
Chris Ulysses versus the feet sniffing cyclops
Drexler
Stefan Johnny Maracas
Nate Perkis
WWE's newest trans star
Dwayne Nocock Johnson
Okay
Jerking off thumb up my ass
I call it going
Abselling
What
Jerking off thumb up my ass
I call it going
Abcelling
Abselling
We like to call that as he went for something
Yeah I don't know what it is
Arturo Vargas
Presenting
my ass to a face hugger because I got that interracial tingle.
Facehugger.
I know what that is.
Nick.
Schmitty.
Dr. Nick.
Schmitty.
Chicken finger.
Schmiddy.
Then we got Yanni Magnetized set off the North Salem with Haysel trials.
Okay.
Can I get a Cosby water for my daughter?
Hell.
That's really.
It's a weird one.
It's a weird.
Yeah.
When you're trying to fucking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's weird.
Then we got Mrs. Met's only, only fans manager.
Mrs. Met's only fan
manager. Does she have been only fans?
He's making it charming. That'd be nice if you did.
Two cocky, Bukaki,
James Hart, Swagdeddy,
Chrissy Flop and Yanni Tutsi Slurp.
Dooser,
fancy bastard, shit Reynolds,
Anthony Williams,
Yanni the Poop Slurp, Perp,
Ryan Arnold. Babe, I promise it's not fumes. I just shit a little
when it goes pewing.
We're going to,
We're going to put that on the list.
All right.
Wow.
Okay.
There we go.
It's a little funny.
He gets a little excited and he poops himself a little bit.
It happens.
Yeah.
Then we got Juan Gotti from Nickerbach or Ave.
Griffin Lawson, Maverick Canagard, Chris Jenner's sex toilet.
I'm a grown man.
I'll piss the bed if I want to.
Put him on the list.
There it is.
I like that.
Yeah.
And it is a good point.
It's what you say to your wife where you wake up and she's like you got a drinking problem.
Yeah.
Instead of looks maxing, Yani is eye maxing.
Okay.
Just want to give you boys.
a shout out to Chrissy looks like he eats Bratworth and Uncle Jesse with an extra 21st.
What does that mean, extra 21st?
Oh, like you have an extra chromosome.
Oh, yeah.
Special needs, yeah.
Yeah.
Our Drex are just for that.
Yeah.
Then we got Mike Obama's pseudo piece is bigger than mine.
Chicken thing.
Then we got Ryan Gosling from the film Drive but with Down syndrome.
Okay.
Interesting.
Gloomann group we've had.
Brian LaMonica.
The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant.
List it.
Yeah.
Contender.
Yeah.
Contender.
Yeah.
Feet eater Peter.
Feet eater Peter gets a chicken finger.
Then we got Chrissy's grandpa died at Auschwitz.
He fell out of a tower.
That's like an old school street joke.
I don't get it.
Like saying that my grandfather died at Auschwitz.
He fell out of a tower.
He was a Nazi guard.
Oh, right.
But that's an old street joke.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got it.
End word scissor hands.
I feel like we've had that.
Yeah.
Jimmy, at least half a tard canard.
Chicken finger.
I'm Bobby Mom.
That's a bad friend's joke.
S.G.T.
Glugon Thompson, A.K. Leroy Frisbee the Reich.
Kai.
Jesus and the lady brain boys fix my leaky roof.
Aunt Tuddy shot my dad.
Uh-huh.
I told you come in me.
Okay.
It's decent.
Yeah.
He spaced it all out.
Yeah, it's a chicken figure.
Anthony Prairie.
Yanni.
it's Poppins Cherries. Big
Bitch against GLP first. Call her
Jesse's next masterpiece.
Oh yeah. Yep. He paints fat
people. Yeah. Half Jew,
half robot. Call me a cyborg.
I'll tax you physically.
I like that. Syberg.
I like that. Yeah.
Let's put it on the list.
All right. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. That's the list. This borderline
it's not going to win, but it deserves
to be honored. Yeah. Corbyn Porter.
Bobby the throat goat, Kennedy's angry
voice box. And then call me Israel.
way I'm trying to Benjamin nut and on you, which we've had that. Okay. All right. So here's the list.
You know, again, you think that it's going to be easy. I got to say generally kind of on the
weaker side. On the weaker side for list, but there are a lot of people we've had worse. Yeah.
This is the middle of the road. And also I've said that and then I've heard them and I've been like,
actually I was wrong. Okay, so here we go. Starting off, we got confirmed ginger squeak,
aka Little Red Ridingwood. Drexler. Okay. Yeah. That's all. Yeah. Then we got, uh,
Jay's nine inch chef's knife.
We're going to chicken finger that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Then we got Elliot Page's Oscar acceptance speech for best prosthetics.
We're going to Drexler it.
Just because, yeah, we have a better Elliott Lynch.
Yeah, I think we got decapitating G.I. Joe's in my fume garage.
That's a contender.
That's a contender.
That's staying on.
Then we have Elliot Page's chest.
Looks like the Gaza Strip.
That's a contend.
And then we have, um, Babe, I promise it's not fumes.
I just shit a little when it goes pewing.
We're going to Drexer that.
Okay.
So, Drexer that.
Yeah.
And then we got, I'm a grown man.
I'll piss the bet if I want to.
We're going to Drex for that.
Then we got the great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant.
We're going to keep that around.
It's just what it is.
It's better than I thought.
Then we got half Jew, half robot, call me a cyborg.
I'll tax use physically.
That is very good.
Also, show specific because take it physically.
I got to keep it around, bro, just because of the fandom with the originality.
All right.
So we have one, two, three, four contenders.
I was wrong.
It's better than I thought.
So the contenders are decapitating G.I. Joe's in my fume garage.
Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip.
The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant or half Jew, half robot,
call me a cyborg.
I'll tax you physically.
I'll tax you physically.
Okay.
Tough one.
We're going to narrow it down, though.
I love the decapitating G.I. Joe's.
Right.
This is the definition of a Drexler.
It would win any other time, I believe.
Also, I wish, a fume garage is good, but we've had a lot of fume garage.
Somebody else came up with that.
Yes.
So if he would have just said it in my ass or something, it would have been a little, but I'm going to have to Drexler.
That's out.
But I hate to do it.
Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip.
We got to keep that around.
It's just what it is.
Yeah, we got to keep that around.
The great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant.
That would, I can't, it's just hard to say that I'm going to have to.
the Drex for that because it's just what it is.
Yeah, it's tough. Oh, Jesse likes that.
Should I keep it around? Nick?
Well, I'm getting outvoted. How about you?
I'll say keep it around just to have a, because I think half Jew, half robot, call me a
cyborg, should go. Okay, so let's direct so that.
So then I'll say, then it's between the great thing about cantaloupe is that it can't
get pregnant or Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip.
We got two, we got two winners here. This is what it's hard to do.
Do we put it to a vote or do we pick it in here?
We made them vote last time.
I think we got to do the hard word.
We're going to take it from a democracy and make it a republic.
It's just what it is.
People don't know how to act.
Yeah.
Because you know what's funny is we take it to a vote and then they complain.
Right.
They complain and say, oh, you guys, one complaint goes, oh, you guys are getting ladies.
You're not even picking winners.
We're trying to involve you.
They have a complaint one way or another.
Other people saying they love the vote.
I don't know what you people fucking want.
Yeah.
But you know what?
It just makes me want to take a G.
Joe and decapitated in my ass.
Which I might do.
So it's between Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip or the great thing about
cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant.
Two All-Stars.
We got to vote.
So for me, Elliot Page's chest looks like the Gaza Strip because it's flattened.
It's funny.
And the cantalup thing is funny too, but I would go with Elliot Page, but I'm a big Elliot Page fan.
Yeah.
The thing is, I think what we're going to do is we're going to enjoy that joke.
But it's one of those that, you know, we just can't put up.
in lights. We just can't put it up in lights, unfortunately. So we'll say maybe that's the winner,
that's the private winner, but the public winner is the great thing about cantaloupe because that
can't get pregnant. That's right. It's sort of like the deep state, right? You have one guy who's
elected and he's the de facto president, but then you got the real people who have the power.
We all know that Elliott Page is the winner. We just can't put it up in lights. So congratulations,
go to history. Aniusis is Back.com. So your name of him in lights. The winner is the great
thing about cantaloupe is that it can't get pregnant.
Which is also equally as good for different reasons.
And it's amazing. And guys
go home after this episode and have sex with a
cantalope.
