Hodgetwins Podcast - Black Pastor Has Had ENOUGH Of Black People! | Hodgetwins Podcast | Pastor Manning

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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Podge Twins Pardast. It's going to be a damn good show. All right, so we got a damn good show for y'all today. We got Pastor Manning in the house. How you doing today, Pastor? I'm doing just fine. You know, the word damn is in the Bible, so I permit you to use that.

Okay, okay. Hey, hey, you're a good pastor. You know, I'm trying to be a better Christian every day. Your Chista Solimente, I'm just joking, man. I'm just joking. Yeah, that's the thing about you. I don't know when you're joking or when you're being serious. I'm good.

Good, good, good. Yeah, well, we came across one of your videos. I would say it's been about three or four years ago. Yeah, yeah. And I told my brother, I said, I swear if I was in the church when you gave that sermon, I would have dropped about $50,000 in a collection plate. Wish you were there. Hey Joe, you got that clip?

Give everybody context. Yeah. This is the very first video I saw of you. And a black person actually shared this video with me. He was very upset, but I was like very, I was very happier to see that because black people need a lot of tough love. Yeah. I'm not going to be much longer with y'all. I understand.

We need to move beyond color. I'm not about that, but y'all raised it. If you start it, I'll end it for you. Don't start nothing. It won't be nothing. But we got a problem. Black people got a problem. Now we can move to color blindness and always look at the man by the content of his character, never the color of his skin.

I'm down for that. You're getting my vote. Yeah and amen. I'm for that. But before we get there, we need to hear some truth. Black people and white folk. Black people got a problem. And it's a God problem.

When black people see the world, I don't care. You can train them. You can train a black man to be a physician. You can train them to be astrophysicist. You can train them to be a lawyer, but you can't train him to understand the world. He doesn't know. I'm telling you. There's not two sense of difference between a mass murderer.

There's not two sense of difference between a petty thief that's locked away in prison than a black doctor. when it comes to understanding the world. Listen, you listen to me. We got to deal with this. And we need to begin to acknowledge it, talk about it, ask God to help us because only God can help black people where they are. Black people had Africa, that big old continent over there. They never built one boat that was seaworthy. Not one.

There's not one monument in Africa and all of Africa. I know you're talking about Egypt. Egypt is not Africa. There are no great cities that were built. Even before the first colonization of white people, coming to the shores of Africa or the slave ships, black men built nothing, no sewer system, no houses above one level,

and none of them made out of stone, all of made out of grass and wood. Black men, before the white man ever got to Africa, the worst thing that could ever happen South Africa was when they gave it to Nelson Mandela and black folk. That was a great nation. Now notwithstanding apartheid was wrong, we all know it's wrong. I'm against it. There should have been some other resolution though than turning it over to Nelson Mandela. Disease, AIDS and crime is running wild in Johannesburg. They're killing one over there. They're

dying of sickness. The government is mismanaged. The people who ran the nation are now. leaving the nation because black folk don't know how to run no nation and we need admit it I know you don't like it but you need to stop shuck it and jiving we got a problem Nigeria produces oil every year yet the children over there are hungry and potbellied and walking barefoot we got a problem you talk about the hoodtos and the titsies look what's going on in Zimbabwe now with Mugabe We got a problem black folk. And forget about Zimbabwe and South Africa, Nigeria.

Look at what you all have done in Harlem. You can't even hold on to Harlem. We got a problem. Black folk don't understand the world. You can get mad with me all you want. You can say what you, but you can't prove me wrong. Now, I'm not saying this because I hate black folk. I'm saying it because I love you enough to tell the truth.

The only person going to ever help us get out of the situation is going to be God. There's something wrong with the black man's mine. There's something wrong with his mind. He does not understand the world. He doesn't. I don't care if he learned medicine. He doesn't understand the world. He can't even hold on to Harlem.

When he was here, he moved out. We got to talk to the Lord. People, we got to talk to God. And black women. Shirley Chisholm. Harriet Tubman. Corrata King, one of her boys. Yeah, okay.

Then we got a black woman. president but you black women what's wrong with y'all y'all gonna let that white woman what's wrong with you black women voting for barraud don't you understand it should have been a black room if you're gonna have a black president what's wrong with you y'all ain't got no sense you black women your men treat you like the dogs like your dogs they walk all over you they make you pay the bills at home and then the preachers pimp you in the churches and make you pay the bills you're crazy black women buy these black men private jets the tune of $50 million for a nitty ride around in a private jet and you talk about

looking out pastor what's wrong with your women what's wrong with you what's wrong with you and what's wrong with a black man that would take that kind of money out of a poor neighborhood and buy himself a private jet what's wrong with y'gots what's wrong with you black women what's wrong with you voting for Barack Obama what's wrong with you wrong with y'all you know it's a crazy black people Let me tell you all something. If you don't ever hear me say a preacher again, they can kill me tomorrow. Let me tell you something.

We're not going to ever get anywhere until we look into the mind of a black man. He doesn't think correctly. I don't care what he is. He can be a doctor. He can be an after physicist. The n-a-n't-n't-got-no-sex. You talk to him. You talk to a black man.

He doesn't understand the world. He's never built anything. The most of black people have ever done, they did it here in America under white people's help. that were in Africa, they didn't do nothing. Yeah, that's the first, yeah, that's the very first video. Yeah, did you get any pushback from members of your church after you gave that sermon? Not really.

I think that some of them perhaps disagreed with some of the things that I said, but they didn't disagree in a vicious way or a wanton way. I think they were probably wishing that what I was saying was not true. Right. But no, no pushback. and nobody actually got up and left the church. I think it was saddened by what I said, but probably realized that it was all true. And trusted me to not blaspheme

or not speak about a people with such truth that could be so detrimental for generations to come. I think they understood that spiritually and physically. But no, I didn't get any real pushback after that. Yeah, I think it comes from a good place, though. You actually want black people to do better in order to do better. Yeah, no, that's a better expression. Thank you for that.

Because it deeply within my heart. I was preaching not because I hate black folk. Right. I was preaching because I would to see them prospering. I mean, listen, if you use the metric of the Genesis chapter one regarding the structure of the world, the creation of the world, and how God said everything was good, that he created. And then you look at how much black people have paradigm

with that. That is the same. What are black people created? When the world needs an economic system, it needs a government system, a political system, an education system. We've not made major great contributions as an entity of people ourselves collectively,

as a homogenous group. And we're last on the totem pole, far as comparing to the metric of the Bible of, you know, creating things that are good. And one of my favorite lines or one that people have discovered to be favorite about mine is that we've never made a seaworthy vessel. We're not able, we've not been able to conquer the seas to be able to build something that would sell the seas. And so, but it's not out of hatred. It's, it's a plea. Those are painful for me. I think if anybody should have left the church that they should have been me. Because it's extremely painful to have to realize that.

But I pray, and not only that, but I believe that a day is coming when all of that will be completely reversed. And I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that one day is reversed. And I can say just the opposite. Do you think that's possible? Because the Democrat Party, they have such a firm grip on the black community. And I think the biggest problem I have with the Democrat Party is they tell black people what they want to hear. and not what they need to hear. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that.

I think we probably need to go further back to Dr. Martin King Jr., Martin Luther King, Jr., perhaps, who opened the door for the Democrat Party to be able to brainwash and to castrate black people and to rob them of their potential. You know, the thing I would want to say beyond the message that I just preached, and also what Democrats have been able to do. We weren't always as inept as we are at present. And I don't want to necessarily give a shout out or praise to the Republican Party prior to Black people and W.E.D. the Boys and the N.A.C. and Dr. Martin Luther King leading us to the Democrat Party with Lyndon Johnson. I don't necessarily shout out to the, but we weren't always as inept as we were.

There were a time when we were better self-sufficient, especially during the reconstruction period. I think, when a Democrat party, I think they all ought to be, well, somebody tried to say that I was suggesting assassination of people. And I don't want anybody to think that, but I think they all ought to be moved off the planet of the Earth. Maybe all of them, I don't care who they were, and Jasmine, Crocker, or whoever the hell else. They ought to be moved to another planet and let us start all over again. But beyond that, I think our real problem is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who led us to lay down our arms and open up our hearts and our traditional strengths. We did have, as Hamites coming from Africa, some characteristic strengths about family that were strong and the understanding of men leading and taking care of their children. I think it was Dr. King that led us to the place where we discovered or thought that perhaps it'd be okay,

lay these things down for some yellow grits and cheese in a box that the government fed us through their government program. So I think the world needs to take at least people who are really concerned about the well-being of black people, the homelessness, the fatherlessness. Take a close look at Dr. King. and perhaps the movement that he started and where we are now as a result of how exalted he was made. The man was put on the same man with peace as Jesus. And I don't think he should have been. I think that we need to take another look.

Right. Are you familiar with the recent opinions that the Supreme Court Justice shared about how they draw districts now in a majority of the United States? Yeah, redistricting is what you're saying. I'm very familiar with that. Louisiana got it. So actually, it started in Texas. I'm not a fan of Trump. But here is my position, and it has to be prayerfully understood.

I think all black politicians, I think we ought to step back from believing that salvation is in a black politician, whether a dog catcher, state representative, governor or senator, congressman, or on ledge. black president. I think we need to step back from that. So if redistricting can somehow another put us in a position where we are no longer looking to black politicians for deliverance for setting family structures and helping us to understand the economic base or even discover the potential that is within us. I think we'd be better off. So I I say yay and praise God for more redistricting. Get rid of all black politicians.

They ask me. I said they ought to be Auschwished and Daquow. That was a fancy word way of getting away from them accusing me of wishing death upon people without it being literally proven in a court of law. But yeah, that's what I happen to them. Right. Yeah, just get rid of them. I think black politicians did disservice to the black community.

They took black people for, took advantage of black people. It took them for granted. Yeah, it took them for granted. And I think white politicians is going to serve them a lot better. You know, black people in terms of politics, somehow another, the with Dr. King event and W. DeBois and some others during that period of time, raised being a politician to a sacred place. and while white politicians and white people in general

pulled those strings, as someone said, this nation has been bought and paid for a long ago when you get into the political realm, you're going to have to pay some dues. And trust me, I know that, because I ran for mayor of the city of New York not long ago. But what happens whether black people realize it or not, and they're Hamas, that's who they are.

whether they realize it or not, they lower their standards and are willing to give a form of worship to a white man. I don't care if he's poets, Job's Turkey, and snaggers tooth. But if he's white, he's got some political strength or political connection. The black man who has a sound set of teeth in his mouth and health, the blood oozing through his veins is healthy. he will acquiesce and bow down to some of the behaviors of that white man with no teeth in his mouth so that he can hold that position. Black man does not really believe wholly that he can become a politician without a truth that, which has been exemplified, unless a white man approves up and lays his hand on him and says,

take this black man in. He ain't going nowhere. I don't care who he thinks he is. And so that's what black politicians do. They bow down to the snagged to white man, if you will. And I'm not trying to disperse or speak disparagingly about white folk. I'm trying to make an example of which black people have lost their own sense. I'd rather not be a politician, be like to some overture,

rather than not be a black politician if it means that I got to lick somebody's white ass. But by the way, the word ass is in the Bible, too. you didn't know that. Moses spoke it years ago. Right, right, right. Do you think APEC has too much influence on our politicians in the black community? It hurts the black community? I'm sure. I think that when you look at the power of collective money and collective influence that is solidified behind a particular ideology, such as Citizens United. perhaps, that it's going to influence the way people think. And you may start out as a decent person.

Now, I'm sure that every person ran for the office of politics was a person that was dishonorable. But they tell you what you got to make acquisitions here. Someone told me, now, listen, man, you want to be the mayor of New York City. You can have to apologize to homosexuals. What do me, Paula? You got to have to. What you mean?

You're telling me, I'm going to have to. say what the Bible says about homosexuals is wrong in order for me to be the mayor of New City of New York, then hell out does never be the mayor of the city of New York if I'm going, but most people say, okay, I'll give up that inch of my integrity. I'll give up that inch of my belief in God. I'll put God in the closet for just a moment and that I get this office of power and God will, he'll understand that I had to do this. No, I'm not going to do that. So yes, the influence that they have on the Democrat Party is overwhelming. Yeah, and I think politics and ministry, they don't go hand in hand in, like, direct opposites

because we have Reverend Warnock, and then we got a guy running for Texas, Tener Rico, that are pastors, and some of the things they say, it doesn't, it's not in our Bible. It's like it's a direct opposite of what's presented in the Bible. I was like, how can you honestly call yourself a Reverend saying these things about abortion and amongst a lot of other things. Well, you know, Talarico, somebody said he's a... I don't know that that's true. I know he does support it.

But a large number of Christians have been able to twist the Bible and its words in such a way that it's mournful what Warnock and Tala Rico and a bunch of others have done in terms of molding the script. in such a way to fit their own ideas and to get people who are non-believers to support them. It's shameful what they do. They should never be allowed anywhere near.

Let them be politicians, but never allow them anywhere near a pulpit. Warnock ain't got no business in a pulpit, and neither is that boy Tala Rico, you know, as much as I would be against this boy, Paxton, whoever the hell he is. Right. And corner and Trump. I, you know, well, I wouldn't say I'm going to vote for Paxton, but keep that boy, Tala Rico, away from the U.S. Senate. Ain't no telling what the hell Democrats will be doing if they let him in because they think he's young and he's smart.

And he has a way of making people in the Bible forget their religion, forget their love of God. No, we need to keep him away from a pulpit. Let him go to the Senate, but keep him away from a pulpit. Yeah, I've seen a, I lean more to the right, but, you know, Trump's not perfect. He's far from perfect, and a lot of people think he's a Christian, but I haven't seen anything Christian about that, man. He's mocked the Pope.

He's mocked Jesus. Have you seen some of the things he's posted about, you know, image of him? He said he was a doctor, but everybody from the garb he was wearing, you could totally tell he was trying to replicate, you know, our Lord Jesus Christ. Did you see those that he shed on his truth? account? Listen, Trump is a delusional servant of Satan. Trump couldn't spell Christian if you put it in front of him.

He had no idea what it is. The man is a psychopath. He is a borderline, if you will, schizo. I'm not saying this. I'm not a psychologist. I did do some psychology teaching in my studies, rather than my undergraduate graduate graduate studies. But Trump is a schizo.

And he always has been. I mean, he is a Jeffrey Dahmer with a little bit more class. He has no idea what it is to be a Christian. But he realizes, however, that usually Christians can be lured. They're easily persuaded by anybody who is empowered, who stands up and give some sort of assent to the nobility. of the Bible in Christianity. Trump is a pimp. That's who he is. He's a damn hardcore stone cold pimp. Pimping these Christians with words that they like to hear. But I think the other thing is that men of the Christians that follow Trump know he's a liar. They know he's a schizoid.

They know he's a delusional person. And but yet they have a purpose of using him as a tool to get a large part of what they want here in America and mainly to be saved from black people, which is a whole other question. Yeah. Do you think the evangelicals on the right give Trump a pass the stuff he says because they see him as the lesser of two evils? I don't know if they see him. Well, yeah, the answer to that question, they, it doesn't, listen, they know Trump lies.

They understand Trump lies. They know he's a pedophile. They, listen, they know that Trump has probably put his penis in mold young girls, and you can shake a stick at. And they know it. They run up and talk about, where's the evidence? Where did shit? What's the evidence?

Hell, he has locked up the evidence and won't let anybody bring forth, won't let a judge, won't let the court, won't anybody. If you let us open up the files of that, we'll show you the evidence of your pedophilia, your molestation, your perversion. They know that. They know that. And they still allow him because for whatever reason, they see the fear of black people who might finally find themselves and find their relationship and strength with Almighty God rising and being their masters. And if they can use, you know, they, you may have heard them say this. There's a, I think in the book of Isaiah, there's this book of Nehemi as well. There's his fellow named Cyrus over there in Babylon, who was not a man of God. He was in the thing, but he helped the Jews reunite themselves,

and they're returning back to Israel after 70 years in captivity after Nebuchadnezzan came in and brought them to captivity to Babylon, to Persia. They said, well, Trump is the Cyrus. They said it to say, well, we know he's not a man of God, but we believe that God has sent him. They've said that. But I think the deeper question is this, and what America has to finally look at, and anybody of well-being will have to consider,

is that we have nearly 50 to 70 million white people in America that know who Trump is, but they believe he would better serve their purpose than being under the leadership of a black person or Hamai person who has finally discovered how to bow. down how to extricate himself from the teachers of the Democrat Party and Dr. Martin Luther King and go back and start just being, with respect to black politicians, if we could just get every black family with a black father and Azamite in that home taking care of those children,

then we don't need no black politician. We don't need no, we don't need no banks. If we could get our families organized once again, and there are people that know that. And if Trump is the one that can prevent that from ever happening, then more power to this pedophilia. Yeah, I'll push back on a lot of the things President Trump has said, and I've criticized him numerous times on Facebook and Twitter. But it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall because some people don't want to see the truth about Trump or the Republican Party.

It's easy to point them in the direction to see the truth about the Democrat Party, but it's like they don't want to see the truth about the Republican Party. I mean, I voted for Republicans, but I know they're not perfect. I know Trump is a liar. I know he's got some demons that he's hiding and he's got skeletons in his closet. But for some odd reason, a lot of Republicans, a lot of people in the GOP, they can't see it. It's like they blind to it. You know, I have to do a bit of a confession here as well, is that I endorsed Trump in the 2016 campaign.

I went down to Trump Tower down there, this big office down. there, shook his hand and endorsed him before a group of another 80 pastors. And I knew he was a liar then, and I have to admit that. But, you know, I was trying to say to the world that Obama was worse. And at the time, Trump was a birther. And he was allegedly heavy in the birth of movement. And I had been, if you will, pretty much embarrassed by the presence of Obama, him becoming allegedly the so-called first black president. And I, like many, if you will, MAGA people today, though I'm not as extreme. And I, but I understand clearly what the MAGA people are going through. I gave Trump my endorsement because I, even though knowing he's a liar,

I did not think he was worse than what Obama had done in stealing the integrative of black folk by alleging to be a black, the first black president coming out of a white woman's vagina. And so I gave my endorsement. And like MAGA today, and I understand what I don't understand, why they're going through, why they accept his lives, why they are not going to walk away from and you're not going to push them away from Trump. Because the alternative is the Democrat Party. And if the Democrat Party takes full reign, all hell breaks loose. So that's where they are.

Yeah. All hell will break. That's the anti-crisis coming. That's true. Pastor Manon, how do you feel about the war that we've waged in Iran right now? I think he got his ass kick. I think Trump went into Iran thinking that these Muslims, people probably who he looked down on, did not have military or economic strategics to be able to withstand the might of America. And America is a threatening source of military might, one of the greatest, if not the greatest on the planet.

And he just didn't think these bunch of ragheads could possibly withstand if it were the aircraft carriers to be 52 bombers and the nuclear, not nuclear system, but the ballistic missile systems that we had. He thought that they were just not going to be able to withstand it. But they did. What Trump failed to understand is that the Iranians had something greater than the military might of ballistic missiles or, if you will, great air. great aircraft carriers and bombers. They had a sense of integrity and something that they believed in. And they believed in themselves as a culture and a people.

They see themselves as one of the oldest societies on the planet. They see America as a little baby boy in knickers compared to how long Iran and the Persian people have been doing what they were doing long before the alleged prophet Muhammad came along and gave them the Islamic religion. They have something that they believe in and what they have, what the world needs to see. And not that I support Muslims, I'm against them up and down Main Street and everywhere else I can chase a Muslim. But what they have is a system of beliefs that's stronger than a nuclear

weapon. Now, you can say what you want about America's military might. But America's soldiers, infantry men, captains, and sergeants, are not made out of the same cloth of those young men running around over there in the Islamic nation who are willing to die for what they believe on the dime. So in what America needs to realize and what has been proven to her in this Iranian and also in Afghanistan and Iraq as well, but more so in Iran at present,

is that there's something greater than a nuclear bomb. And that is a man's belief. That is a power system that carries him and his people. And you can't just bomb that out of a person. And that's where America has failed and why they have been defeated into war, whatever it is with Iran. Do you feel in your heart that what Trump is saying

that the reason why they saw the bombing campaign against that country is because it was about to strike either Israel or the United States with a nuclear weapon? No, I do not believe that. Trump was lying through his teeth. Besides, he had said back in June of 2025 that he had obliterated the nuclear capacities, all the, if you will, nuclear machines had that for making, I'm forgetting the name of the system that make those nuclear products, and also the nuclear grade of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of,

uranium was at 62% at one point, but he had completely obliterated. Now he says they've got a bomb. Well, which is it? So, no, the man was lying through his teeth is what he does as a matter of course. Right. There's, hey, Joe, we got a video of him talking about Mam Dani. What do you think about the new mayor of New York City, Mom Dani? You know, I've done a couple of things. One is that I'm trying to decide whether or not.

not, he's going to be recalled because there are a large number of people. It was a rally against him last night at Gracie Mansion. There are a number of people who feel that Mandami is perhaps one of the poorest managers that New York City has ever had. We've had some poor ones, by the way, and that whether or not he will be recalled, and if so if recalled, if the recalling of I call him Mondunny. It happens in a real way as to whether or not I would be interested in mounting my campaign again to be the mayor of the city of New York. But he's not long for the city. I don't think he'll make it pass the next six months.

As far as who he is as an individual, personally, his Islamic beliefs, I think a deadly. towards those of us who have biblical beliefs. And my basic principle of what a Muslim is that they say that Jesus is not God. They say that Jesus is a liar. I mean, you can put it in any nice way you want to put it. But they say that Jesus can't be God. That means they're saying that my Savior is a liar. And the other thing is that New York has beginning to stink like falafel

and Islamic thoughts and food services and prayer meetings all over the city of New York, which is disruptive to us who lived in this charismatic kinetic city for so many years to have to now look at this influence of these Muslims, either bowing or holding their hands and doing what they refer to as Juma, everywhere you look. It's a kind of vagabondism, if you ask me. So my, my, and then Mondami, of course, he's a jihadist. He's, he's a 100% supporter of Hamas.

And if he could, would break Sharia law? No, I think that there was a grave mistake made in electing, allegedly electing Zoran Mondami as the mayor of the city of New York. You think he's a jihadist? Absolutely. I think that, you know, I think it gets an opportunity to, maybe the whole idea of a sleep, I say a jihadist. I think that if there was an opening where America looked weak enough,

where people who are in the sleeper cell ideology, I know his wife is a jihadist, if not more, I think if he had an opportunity to do that, And I think a whole lot of Muslims are praying that he would lead them in a state of jihad against the great Satan of the West. I think that they saw his election as one of the stages in which jihad could be possible against America. And they're waiting for that door to open. Yeah, I do. Have you got that video, Joe?

I'll play this clip. I'm going straight up. You just did a form of the video. I'll share it on my Facebook some of the things you said. A woman can't raise children. You can't raise children with tits. You got to have balls. You got to have a man.

And for a man to not take responsibility to raise his children or to be executed, you have a responsibility before God. And we don't want to hear that. Women's rights. No, no, we got the sickest, poorest, economically. deficient people on the planet. The other thing is this. Is that when that boy, Mondami

came on the scene? This is a Muslim. He is a jihadist, if you will, interfaida if you must. Hamas supporting anti-Jesus Muslim. And N'hers are talking about he got a good program. I don't give him a damn

how good his program is. He's a Muslim and Jesus is Lord. And I'm voting for him and I didn't tell nobody else to vote for. The hell's right. with you. I'm tired of the Democrat Party making bitches out of our women and pussies out of our men. I'm tired of it. I've had enough of it. I've had enough of it. The man needs to stand up and be a man. I need more of that in the black community. Yeah. Yeah. You get me going, pastor. You get me going. We're going to get me a

horse and my horses and some trucks and some people together. We're going to we're going to take over this country. That's what you do to me without your service. Yeah, why do you think the black man is like ran away from his family responsibilities, their kids? That's a great question. And it ought to be asked by everybody. He's lost his way. I got a statement I've made a that I, there's a statement that's made by Paul that says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ because there's salvation first to the Jew and then to the Greek. And it's a well-known, well-quoted verse throughout the church structure for many, many years. And I've stated that I am not ashamed of the fact that black people were prophesied to be slaves in America to the Jew and to the white man in the early days of the people. the Noah scriptures of the Bible. I'm not ashamed of that because it brought salvation. We were brought to America as slaves,

but we were given salvation to us here first, and then of course to the entire continent of Africa. But why does a man, and Brother Hodg's twins, I have to tell you and confess that I ran away from my family. I ran away from my children, one of the more, the painful periods of my life. And I've tried to tell myself to stop talking about it so much, stop confessing that people think that I was, you know,

okay, you confess it, you repented. God forgave you. And you ought to, you know, just move on. But I have to tell you, it's one of the more painful periods of my life. I had, I was married, been married for about a couple of years. We were living in a decent neighborhood. I had a decent job. I was working as a clerk and a bank.

Bankers Trust. And all them girls, I was working in the main bank building, and I was in my early 20s. And everywhere you look with the miniskirt. Now, y'all brothers are probably too young to remember the miniskirt. But they were everywhere. And I started cheating on my wife and staying out all night long, sleeping with these women and getting high. And we lived way out in this part of Brooklyn. where you had to take training to work. And my wife, we would take the baby to the babysitter during the day and pick her up in the evening, our firstborn. And when I stopped coming home at night for supper, I came home one morning about 7.30. I got off the train. I was headed to home.

I'd been out all night. I was just going to change clothes, watch go right back to work. And I met my wife and my firstborn daughter, walking on a slippery sidewalk that snowed and it was icy on that sidewalk. And she was taking the baby to the babysitter. And I was just coming out home from being out all night with a whore. And it just went on. And I got crazy.

I had another son. And I got crazy. And I just deserted them. Didn't know whether they were eating. I was just out with the whores as a young man. What happened to me? Because I wasn't raised that way. God knows I wasn't raised that way.

But that's what happens to so many men. They don't realize that when your children need you, you see a man who's not taking care of his children. You can hate him and you should if you get an opportunity to kill him and nobody knows about to do that too, get rid of him. But he's in trouble. He's lost. I know from firsthand experience, I did some awful things to my wife

and my children at the time. And I don't know. I mean, the Lord forgave me. I just, it's, I, I've tried everything I can to make men go home to their wives. I've tried everything I can to preach that men ought to be leaders in their homes, leaders of their wives, both spiritually and financially, making sure that she's doing okay and that the children are doing okay. I've given my light to that, and I ain't going to never.

stop preaching that as much as I possibly can. But there's opposition. I've got mega opposition from the black politician, from the black professor at college, from the movie stars, from the athletes, from the rap artists, from a whole bunch of folk who don't realize how serious, how painful that is. It has, over the last 70 years, it has destroyed two generations of people who could by now be running a black airline or black manufacturing motoring corporation or even a black cruise line and having mega money and major communities with a persona that people would want to be around black folk because there's something that there's something kinetic about the ability to produce and that there's just a blessing if you can just get in the

neighborhood where black people live, it's a blessing. If you can get a home in the black, black neighborhood, it's a blessing. But we've lost that. And I'm number one criminal there. But I, you know, that's just how that is. Yeah. Democrats ask, but the reason why these things happen in the black community is because of racism. Do you believe that?

No, absolutely not. No. Do I believe that there is, that there's racism, but not in the gender. and way in which the Democrats promoted. Democrats promote racism to raise dollar bills. They promote racism. Here's what they say, that the black, the white man is broken into the black man's house

and made him a weak man. Jesus, my Lord and Savior, said this. You can't break into a strong man's house and spoil his goods unless you are stronger than him. No doubt about it. You're not going to be able to do it. But they're passing around this whole business that the white man has created the black man by taking away his opportunity at financial or economic development. That's not true.

That isn't true at all. And Democrats align just to get a vote and to maintain their political power as they now see it. We've been inundated by videos of black women, just fighting, just fighting one and out. It's like a lot of black women, like much more violent I feel, in my humble opinion, in my life experiences. I mean, the first woman, they ever put up our hands against me and said, let's do this, was a black woman. Why do you think black women is so violent and behaved like men? I think that they've lost their way. I spiritually, brothers, I believe that when a black mother generations, two generations ago,

at least going back to the 60s and the 70s and black women giving birth, or for instance, I wouldn't, I would not be confused if my former wife fault some man that she later remarried. She did get remarried. I wouldn't be confused if she raised her hand which she never did at me. But she had probably come to a point

where she said, I'm just not going to let anybody run over me anymore. That the black woman's got to defend herself. Spiritually, and I don't want to get all theological and spiritual and all that kind of stuff here today. But spiritually, this is a deep situation with the black woman.

And even when the black woman, carries a black baby, a daughter in her womb. She communicates, and many times she gets cussed out by her husband while she's carrying that daughter in her womb. And she feeds that to her child, even before the child is born. Black women are born today very defensive, extremely so. They're concerned about their hair. They're concerned about what they look like compared to the white woman. And here's another truth that what black women see, especially on television or what they hear or read about in the books,

too many black men once they come of age and get a couple of dollars, go chasing after some white woman to marry her. Listen, I had, my thing with Obama, his mama, his mama, Stanley and Dunham, was a white woman. I hit the roof. I'm what the hell is wrong with y'all? I mean, if we're going to have a black president, okay, I'm standing that. Okay, I'm good with that.

But why can't she come out between the legs of a black woman? Why, she got to come from a white woman. Why the Christmas program, the Christmas card goes sent out from the White House, got a white woman said, we got a black president. What happened to the black woman? That was the greatest put down of the black woman. That's enough to make every black woman fight. I don't care she, she's about 13 years older.

She's in McDonald's, she'll be kicking over the whole damn place. She's angry. Look at what we've done to them. Look at how we treated them. We gave the first black president. What about Shirley Chisholm? I said, why can't she be the mother of the first? Corrella Scott King, a hell, Nancy Wilson. I'm here to any damn body other than another white woman. And these niggers ate it up. You couldn't stop them from talking about. We got a black president. Hell, it's mama's white. So what you see going on is an inherit deep see. in anger in every black woman. Watch them. They're not, they're not, they're, they're, they, they're our mothers. They, they could be good spiritual nurtures and they're wise women. But they are angry, what the hell we've done to them. We've treated them. I mean, I think the ultra, I think what's what you're going to see now going on in Chipotle and what's that other place, roof Chris and, and the beach down there, Daytona Beach. What you see, oh, you've seen all you seen all that stuff. Have you seen that? Yeah. What you see black women doing?

is a result of perhaps they don't realize it, but the fact that the whole black world gave Stanley and Dunham a white woman, the first black president. It's going to be a long time to get that out of the young black women, even the ones that daughters are not yet born. That's my estimation. And I think I'm right.

I'm usually right about everything. Yeah. Have you ever, No. Go ahead. No, it was stupid. Pastor, what got you interest in being a pastor? Well, you know, I ended up in jail. I was running around.

I was stealing jewelry from people. I was robbing Jewish people's homes and stealing their jewelry because I quit my jobs that I had. And I quit my job because I saw my brother's suffering. back in the late 60s and early 70s on heroin. And at that time, I had a marketing job with one of the world's largest soap manufacturers, Proctor, and Gamble. And they gave me an company car, an expense account, and they subsidized my living, my rent out in a major development out in Queens, New York, a very ritzie part of Queens. I was doing extremely well. But in my back in the late 60s and in the early 70s,

I saw my brothers on heroin nodding out and I wanted to help them. I was never going to use heroin no matter what. So I quit my job. I didn't know what I was doing. Anyway, I started stealing jewelry to make a living. And I ended up going to jail. And while in jail, I, I found my, the story I told, again I told you about my wife and a whole lot of other stuff I've done to a whole lot of other people caught up with me in that jail cell. And I began to pray. At first I prayed the way the Muslim comes. My grandmother was a Christian and kind of Costa Christian. But I prayed as a Muslim, nothing happened.

And I got down on my knees a third night. And I prayed the way my grandmother prayed. And Jesus came into that jail cell that night. and save me. Without the salvation, but it came in and I asked him if he could help me, if he could remove the pain that was in my heart, if he could just make me better than what I was. If he could forgive me for all of what I had done.

And he did in that jail cell that night, and I began to praise him. I didn't have any intentions of being a preacher. That was the last thing on my mind being anybody's preacher. But after serving another three years in jail, and while in there, everybody began to call me preacher. Everybody called, hey, preacher, because they knew what happened to me. And everywhere I went, I told my story about Jesus,

visited me in that jail cell. And there were a couple of people that heard me praising Jesus that night who knew I wasn't a phony. They absolutely knew it was true. And so people just got to call me preaching. And I started preaching. I started preaching while I was in prison, in jail. Everywhere I went, I preached.

I was in some of the roughest prisons on the planet. I was in Danamoire, Clinton, upstate New York. I was in Union Correctional Facility, the maximum maximum security prison in the state of Florida. Where everybody in the state of Florida back in the 1970, And every black man in there had 100 years except me. Judge used to give black people 100 years centers in Florida like it was handing out applesauce or something.

And I preached there. I lived in that situation. And so that's how I got started with it. Being back in the 60 when you found God, what was it like is a black man growing up in, you know, the 60s, the 50s, on up to today's time. Like you had a great marketing job, that job before you quit. It's like you were saying, I was like, black people had good jobs like that.

I thought this, it was like very systemically racist during this time, during that time. No, actually, to answer the immediate question, what was it like growing for 607? It was delightful. It was a great period of time. I, working for Procter and Gamble, there was another marketing person that he worked with Procton Gamble.

It was a black person. The name was David Cathay. He was a grad. He had enrolled and been accepted at Harvard. And he made an application for Harvard. He made an application for MIT. And he was accepted to both of those schools in Boston. You know that?

He went to both of those schools simultaneously. But he got a job working with Procter & Gamble. So he and I became friends because we were, you know, black as it was. But I think if you have a little bit of education, a little bit of gumption going for you, major corporations would hire you in those times. The 60s, there ain't no period of life better than the 60s except for the wrong that I did in the 50s. Harlem was the most beautiful place. When I first came here, I have to tell you, I've traveled a word.

I've been to Beijing, Shanghai, I've been to Paris, London, Rome, Italy. But Harlem, when I came here in 1964, was a beautiful Mecca. The people here all had jobs. Every black man had a Cadillac. Every black man. If he didn't have a Cadillac, he had a deuce in a quarter. And occasionally the young boys would buy a Mustang when the 1965 Mustang just came out. But the community was filled with.

soul. The community was filled with the rhythm of black people. The sounds of James Brown and the temptation and Sarah Vaughn and Billy Holliday, the Marvellettes and Aretha Franklin was all in the air. And the food and the nightclubs and the churches you couldn't get in them. And women wore fur coats, even up to April and May because they had it, they just wanted to flaunt it. And men were well dressed. It was a beautiful place. But prior to that, growing up in North Carolina on the plantation, I grew up in a segregated school, but I loved it.

I mean, I loved it. The teachers loved the students. And we were a community that could not be defeated. For my birth, I grew up on a plantation picking cotton. cropping the backer and fighting cotton mouth, water moccasin snakes and king snakes there in North Carolina crawling across the cotton field and everywhere there's water. You see some sort of water moccas and they told me it with poison. If you bite you, you'll die within three minutes if you can't get to a doctor. And they were all over everywhere. And white folk were everywhere as well.

And my daddy took off his cap every time he came into the president of Mr. Billy, who was the overseer. But I had a great life. We had a great family life. We had a great family union. My mother, my father had 17 brothers and sister. And I dated all of my girl cousins. I think I had sex with most of them, too,

if I can remember when I was there on a boy. So, you know. Hey, I know all about that. I'm from the South. I'm from Monsville, Virginia. They got to say it, cousins make dozens. I'll try my best to make dozens. I'm in North Carolina.

I sure was. Yeah. But I was talking to my family, it's like, well, back in those days, it's like there was no cell phones. Many of us didn't have phones. All you knew was your family, your second and your third, your first cousins. Yeah. I graduated high school, May 28, 1965. Today is May 28, 26.

When I left my home on May 29, 1965, I had never heard a telephone ring in my house. Never. If we got a call, we had to go to Ms. Dot's house who lived up the road a bit. She had a phone. She was saying somebody to tell us that somebody from New York calling us on the phone, My mom or somebody had to walk up there four or five blocks

to get to where the phone called. I never heard a phone ring in my house and I was 18 years old when I left. But today's the world is much different. It sounds like to me

black people have regressed a lot since the 50s and 60s. They actually, it's almost like the more rights we got we started to regress the more rights we got. It's like we didn't

progress we actually regressed? You're absolutely right. And that's the thing I'm trying to preach. And that's why I thought it would be such a great opportunity to share with y'all's humongous audience that y'all have who have an understanding who are not haters. Most of your audience are people who recognize that we could be a better people, but we're at the bottom of the totem pole. We don't take advantage of the thing.

That's why I thought it was just a great honor, that is why it's just a great honor to be here today to talk. No, we have regrets. We were a better people. There was a time when we had banks that were by built, on our growing potatoes. And there were times when there was a Black Wall Street, allegedly there in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

There were times when we had three and four hundred acres of land that would have been given to us, not through reparations, but simply after the reconstruction period, many of the slaves had great relationships with the former slave owners, and we're able to build houses and some of the trades that we were able to acquire. And we had insurance companies. We manufactured and sold products to one another. We had a strong sense of church, We founded Moore House, which I'm ashamed of today, and Howard University, Tuskegee Institute. We've got a lot of schools, and these schools were producing great, if you will, students and entrepreneurs and economic developers. But then we left those schools and started going to Harvard and getting all these liberal teaching and Yale and all these other places and lauding how we've gone to these highfalutin schools.

And we began to lose something. and gradually, listen, let me put it this way. We were at one time a great people. I'll take you further back. We built the pyramids in Egypt. We did. And now there's a lot of people who want to argue the scientific evidence to present to them when I make such a statement or that we designed and understood the power of the line of the sphinx. And that design that the pyramid itself and that it was indeed the beginning of the Jewish religion. The pyramid was simply a tomb in which the pharaohs were buried. And in that burial situation was a chute.

And the design of the pyramid at the very top of it had a squared, if you will, opening where the light of a 50,000-year-old star would cross the top of that pyramid. and those pharaohs that were once in that pyramid would be, if you will, resurrected through the pyramids were built as a resurrection instrument. So when Jesus came and they buried him in a tomb and he was resurrected out of that tomb, that theology, that whole idea of physics religiously was developed way before Jesus. I'm not putting Jesus down. I'm Christian. I love Jesus. I'm blood-washed.

Bible believing Holy Ghost-filled. I believe Jesus. I'm just trying to say, or respond, brothers, to your statement. We have regressed a lot and we've lost a lot more. And we are losing more every day. You can even yourself go back 30 years ago. We weren't as bad.

Didn't have as many homeless people. And every day that passes by, we get a whole lot worse. Right. Do you, reparation, do you think that will be black people's solution if they ever provided it? No, no, no, no, no. Presently, I don't believe in reparations. No, I don't either. I'm against it.

I'm against it in any possible way. I think that, I said a few moments ago, I'm not ashamed of the fact that we were slaves here in America. I'm not ashamed of that fact because it was salvation. We found Jesus here in America. I'm not ashamed of that. And I think that black people have been more than overcompensated in terms of a contractual reality of us being here in America. There's no need for reparations.

And a lot of liberals and, if you will, God-hating, America-hating, confused, if you will, perverted black folk will think, I'm crazy because I'm not asking for money in the form of reparation. Listen, James Brown said this back in the 60s. Don't give me nothing. Open up the door. Hell, I get it myself.

And America is a land of great opportunity. You got people Latino down in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, and every damn place else who would give their right arm to get to America. Don't go down reparation. Just let me get to the nation of the great opportunity. and I can get it myself. America's walking around the streets of Cleveland and then Detroit, Chicago,

gang banging, shooting the hell out of one another when they've got this great nation they ought to be trying to develop and praising this nation in terms of trying to make it a better nation rather than burning a damn joint down like they did during the days of George, Florida, and a bunch of other assholes

that the solo so-called been killed by the police. No, I don't believe in reparations. I don't mean to go so long on that, but no. That's a great explanation. Thank you. That's what black people need to hear. I mean, why do you need a handout? You can go out and get it yourself.

That's what James Brown said. He was right, too, by the way. So, I mean, what was your childhood like growing up? Well, I grew up on a plantation, and now I say plantation because it is a general sense that catches everybody. But I grew up in the South. I grew up in Southeast, North Carolina. close to the South Carolina border

and close enough eastfully to be close to the Atlantic Ocean, but in farm country, in the hill farm country, it's where I grew up. And we grew a lot of cotton and tobacco. Pastor Man, what's the name of the plantations? Do you remember?

The name of the town was Red Springs, North Carolina. We moved around like gypsies quite a bit. I grew up in Panthers Ford, the Black Panthers. There's a cross called Panthers for what I spent some time there. A group in a town called Bowie, North Carolina. And then ultimately, my final was Red Springs, North Carolina. It's where I grew up.

But a lot of things that has been preached to us from the, I would say, the left, not necessarily the right, but from the left Democrats. It didn't sound like white people were evil back in those days during the civil rights era. Nobody's going to believe me. but they were not. I'm going to tell you, I'm too old, a lot of you.

I'm going to find it profitable to do that. But I never had no evil experience with any white man. I do declare before God. And if there was evil, I don't want to protect it. Please understand me.

I don't want to protect anybody who's evil. I don't want to protect anybody who's maybe castrated somebody. I don't want to protect anybody who's rich. I don't want to protect them. God forbid that I to use my posture as a pastor for this great opportunity to be on the Hogs Twins broadcast

to protect somebody who was evil towards black people. I'm telling you, I never saw it. I never saw it. I never saw white folk treating black people. We were segregated. Yeah, hell, yeah. Okay, yeah. We went to the movies. We were set up top. They sat down bottom. You know, I steal them, but I'm against third good marshal for integrating school, though it didn't take place right away. I never saw it. I swear before God and the Jesus that came to visit me in that jail cell. I never saw it one time. I never saw. Could it happen someplace else? Could it happen in Alabama somewhere? Because somebody had, I don't, maybe so. But I have 18 years of solid, never leaving the plantation, being around a whole bunch of white folk, a whole bunch of black folk,

living in a segregated town with its colored water fountain, colored interests, is color school. I saw all of that. And the sheriff was white. The judge was white. He also on the Western auto market when he wasn't selling bicycles and lawnmowers. He was the judge of the town and he was white. But I just never saw it. I just never felt it.

My father never saw it. My mother and father stayed together the whole time. I just never experienced it. I think that these movies that are being produced by these producers that depict the wrath of white folk against black folk, like that recent movie, sinners, is it just fuse and promotes lies. If it was as bad as some of these movie makers and film and artists are trying to say black folk would have been extinct. it isn't that way at all. We wouldn't have been able to go to church. We wouldn't have been able to build schools.

George Washington, Carver, and Booker T. Washington would have never existed if it's what. I know I just never saw it. I'm sorry. I just never saw it. Yeah. Hearing it from coming from, it's why it's always great to hear, you know,

history from both sides because everybody's got an agenda. Everybody's got, you know, something we want to push. But to hear that you say that, you know, evil racism, some evil KKK. It wasn't, I mean, he existed, but it wasn't rampant, like what the movies and the politics were telling us. No, it wasn't. That's amazing.

Are you familiar with Jesse Lee Peterson? I am. Yeah, he told me the exact same thing. I met Jesse Lee Peterson. We've done several conferences together. I haven't talked to Jesse Lee in years. Last time I talked to, we were down in Jackson, Mississippi together. We were, they had closed down all abortion clinics in Jackson except one.

And we went down there to protest against that one abortion clinic. And I've seen Jesse Lee since then. But no, I know Jesse well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, just a good man. No, yeah, no, he's a good man. No, he's definitely a good man. They tried to ram, try to jam him a couple of years ago. I heard about that.

But no, Jesse's a good man. I, you know, stop, take your hands off of Jesse. Hey, why do you think, well, I already know to answer this question. But George Floyd, how the black community has embraced him, even though he was a career criminal. And I think person that he overdosed that day when he was laying on the ground, I think the only thing you could punish the cop for is not rendering aid. And that's why he's in jail today. But I think that man overdosed. I think you're right.

No, I listen, George Floyd was a junkie there's no doubt and a no damn

good junkie and he was pimping some of those white women out there

in Minneapolis and they were junkies too but the very fact that he

resisted arrest listen when you resist the rest, expect the worst. I resist the rest. I'm not talking as someone who just a casual observer of what happened with George Floyd. The nigger shouldn't be dead if you ask me.

I know a lot of people ain't going to like that. Now, a lot of people are not going to like that. But I think the world's a better place without him, except the fact that once the nigger, once they killed him, then they tried to make him like Jesus. But listen, brothers, I was down in Miami Beach on Christmas Eve. Now, if you don't know what Miami, Miami Beach is like on Christmas Eve, I'd have to write a whole thesis about it.

It is perhaps the most celebrated place of rich people you ever want to see. And they're just out having a great time. And I decided to burglarize some homes on the beach. I went out that night and I couldn't find their home to crack because it's whatever reason that people, every home I went to, people were in there. So I came back to my hotel. And when I got within the distance, I was staying. at the Moulin Rouge Hotel. I don't know if you know about that hotel.

The Moulin Rouge is right there on Biscayne Bay and on Collins Avenue. And so when I got to the hotel, I saw this strange looking car. I don't know why police rolled around these unmarked cars. They're sitting there looking like two hunted dumpers. Everybody know they're police. So when I saw them, I tried to divert away from the hotel, but somebody had seen me leave the hotel looking the way I did. They got out the car and told me to stop.

Well, I ain't going to stop. I started running. I ran all up and down the beach. Finally, I jumped into Biscayne Day. And the police were there. They're alligators in that water. They arrested me. They took me back to the Miami Beach jailhouse and beat the living day last.

Cracked my ribs, broke my teeth, put me in the hospital for two weeks. I'm in the Memorial Hospital in Miami for two weeks where the police woke my butt. So he'd going back to George Floyd. You resist arrest, expect the worse. He resisted arrest. You know, had he not resisted arrest, he'd probably be alive today. He would not have opened the door to what those police officers. And he was probably drugged up.

And I think you're right about diagnosis of him dying from a mixture of the chemicals in his body. For black people, that's painful to hear. they want to, even though what they saw with their very own eyes was a, was a drug addict, was a thug, was a criminal, was a person making, even though they saw with their own eyes. The power of the media and the power of hatred gives them an entree in to raising George Floyd up off of that street and putting him on the cross. That's about as crazy as a damn thing. I've ever seen in my life, but that's what they did. Yeah, Malcolm X said it best. He said they can make the innocent look guilty

and make the guilty look innocent. That's what the media has done to a lot of people over the years. And they're still doing it. And they've been getting really good at it too as well. They've done the same thing to me. I'm innocent. I don't know if I'm so innocent as I say, you know, because I do a lot of stuff too.

I say what I say. Right. So we'll see how they all work. works out. You're a very honest man with a lot of integrity. A lot of people don't like to share their shortcomings or their faults or their problems. And you're very open about that. Check this out.

Imagine if there was a national call for black people, at first, it'd probably have to be some educating, to stand as a united people in America and confess, we've done wrong. wrong. We've not been the honorable people, even those of us that are Christians, are far less time. Imagine the black people have a national call to say to the world and to say to America, we are sorry for how we have lived. We have sorry that we have created a great tax problem here in America, and we've not contributed as we all. Our children are running wild in the streets, And we want to apologize. We want to deeply repent and make a confession of our shortcomings.

Yeah, there's been things done by other people as well. But that's not our problem. Our problem lies within what we've done to ourselves. And we want to apologize. Imagine if black folk did that. Right. Accountability. That would go a long way with our community.

Just a little accountability. Just an ounce. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I see the teen takeovers, and when I see a majority of them are our people, I was like, man, this is so wrong and something needs to be done about it. It's like I was that initially, what was that you said? What kind of takeover?

The team takeovers, you see a bunch of kids out and about. Yeah. Yeah, it's like running, rapping in all the metropolitan cities, and the majority of them are black. Yeah, and it's only going to get worse. The only possibility of it easing is that black women having more abortions or having fewer children, and therefore by attrition, you don't get as many black children today. Ten years from now, there'll be less, simply by the fact that black women have had abortions or they haven't given birth and so the rate is going out. But the violence is going to be there unless there's a major change. And I think this, I think our problem lies within the Democrat Party.

Now, you know, when I ran as a male case, I ran as a Republican, so what. All right, I'm not a Donald Trump Republican. I try to tell people. But the thing is this, is that unless something is done, the Democrat Party and what they are doing to black people. I tell you what, go up to the average black people, go up to Hawking Jefferson, of Corey Booker, one of them creeps, and say, to them, look at what Trump is doing to these white people. Ain't that something?

I mean, look at what that man is doing. He's lying and flying all the time. And they'll say yes right away. But turn around and I said, ah, I got you. Look at what you and our shop and are doing the black people. All of a sudden, they don't know what the hell you talk about. All of a sudden, it's a whole other world. And that is the conundrumptum that we are facing.

and somebody need to do something about it. Yeah, yeah. I think the most important component of the family is the man because we see what happens when single mothers try to raise children. It just doesn't work out when it comes to blacks, whites, and everybody in between. The majority of people in prison

come from a single family home. Single mother. There's a dynamic I'd like to expound. So I said, black women can't raise children. The opposite of that, brothers is that men can't give birth to children. I want you to hear me very carefully because a lot of women said, well, I raised my son and he's a doctor and that he's doing well and I didn't have no father. I had no man and I let no man come in my house. And I didn't raise my children.

I'd have a woman by a single woman by myself. You know, somebody raised that boy for you. Either some preacher got a hold of him, some scoutmaster or some teacher. Somebody helped you. raised that boy. You ain't raised that boy. Now, you may have been the mother. But listen to this. And everybody needs to hear this. Women can't raise children. They need a man. And a man can't give birth to children. They need a woman. Case cloak. Case closed. Me too. If you're going to raise a child, you need a man. He's got to be there, whether it's a daughter or a son. That man has got to be in that house. If that man in that house, that woman can't do it. She can nurture them. She can give birth to him.

And God bless. Thank God for the women that have done what they done. I thank God for them. As I said before, with Shirley Chisholm and Stanley Ann, Donovan, Obama, and all that. Thank God for the women. But you need a man. And we don't have men in the homes anymore. 90% of the truth. Somebody said it's 70% that's not true.

90% of the homes of black family is not, at least here in New York, don't have a man in there. And the men that are in prison right now or the black men, 90% of the people, they get the prison population. was once one of them. And it is a destruction that's almost, if you will, it's genocidal, Holocaust-type things that has happened to our families. And what black politicians do to survive this, they bow down to white people and kiss their butts

so they can become the overseers of the black people and the black family and the black community. They do what a lot of the movies say that the white man did as the overseer. But every black politician, he's got a black, talking about redistricting brothers, that black politician, he's the overseer of the black plantation.

That's what his job is. Overseed, keep those black people, get Jim Clyburn and all these other, keep them black people in their place. He's the overseer. And whatever he's, says. If he says that homosexual, same-sex marriage

is okay, then damn it, men go marry him. He's the over. He's the plantation owner, these damn black politicians. The 2006 Chevrolet Equinox awarded the most dependable compact SUV in the U.S. by J.D. Power is designed for your everyday. And with available all-wheel drive, you can

handle your to-do list with total confidence. Start your build at sherville.com. Yeah, to y'all. Obama's especially. He talked down to black people when people didn't turn out for Kamala Harris. Well, it wasn't supporting her like they wanted black people to support her because supposedly she's black. You think she was a black woman?

No, I call her. I call her. That's what I called for you. You know what, Pastor, you brought up an interesting memory. Me and my brother had growing up because we lost our father at a young age when we was 14. And I had this teacher. His name was Hugh Tucker, white guy, white guy.

I used to give that white man hell. I wouldn't say Hugh Tucker. I would say you fucker. And the whole pastor started laughing. I gave that man. Let me tell you what that man did for me and my brother. We lost our father. He actually got a black pastor to come see me and my brother to look out for us because he knew we didn't have a dad.

And that white man told me Hugh Tucker, he said, you guys are troubled youth. You don't have a father. The possibility of y'all going to jail, prison. or getting serious trouble in jail is high because you're black. Yeah, and this is in the South, Martinsville, Virginia, and a white man did that for us back in the, what was that, late 80s? Yeah. The late 80s.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Well, thank God for him. Thank God for him. And you owe who you are to him. And thank God he did that because he realized you needed it. And the proof is in putting you are a great witness and a great testimony. on it. You ought to tell that story more often. I didn't know that about y'all.

Yeah. I lost my dad when I was 14, but he worked two jobs, so that instills something in me and then when I lost him. Yeah, you had a foundation. At 14, you were ready. Not at 14, you were ready, act like you have some damn sense. Yeah. But I was not acting a fool. Yeah. But he, I'm sure he put the right foundation in you. Yeah. Any man who works two jobs, ain't got time to be no fool. I can tell you that right now. I don't care what you said about it. If he'd be working two jobs,

he ain't got time to be no fool. Yeah. I remember, like, in high school, like all my black friends, I didn't even really notice it. They had no fathers. Yeah. I didn't even notice it.

And then growing up, they all went to prison for long, long stints, 10, 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. Lives just wasted away. Going through their their manhood years coming into that,

from that teenage to 21, to becoming men in the early 20, 20 years at times of college and dating and getting, all that's gone. All that's been in a cold jail cell of steel and bars and violence and fear. And you're 45 years old before you possibly can see the streets again. That's happened to so many people. And again, you can blame,

because it wasn't that way up until the 1940s and 50s. So you can blame the black politicians. I know people say, well, you know, Dr. King was an honorable man and pastor man, and you must be out of your mind trying to tear down the reputation of Dr. King. I'm not trying to tell our reputation of nobody. You know, I'm just trying to tell the truth. But up until that time, brothers, we didn't go to prison that way. They didn't start building prisons until the civil rights movement began.

And people saw Dr. King stand in the face of white folk and young black folk, by the thousands, became, if you were, Trayvon Martins. Those were lucky enough to go to prison rather than being shot down like Trayvon. So there's a lot that needs to be taught. And it can happen. It can. And that's why I'm here. That's why I won't quit and I won't give up. I believe through the power of God that that which is at the bottom of the totem pole right now is going to rise. I believe at some point in time the pain and the suffering that we are enduring. and the raping.

You're talking about castrating. Can't nobody castrate a black man like a black politician. And they can't nobody castrate him like a black Democrat. You ain't seen nobody. And probably can't nobody castrate and rape like a black preacher. You ain't seen nothing. Like what has happened to us, God help us. God help us.

God save us. save us from ourselves. And on that note, that's a great way to end this show. Pastor Manon, how can everybody find you and donate to your church? Well, you can find me at what's outlaw.org? Is that where we can be found? Outlaw.org. Go to outlaw.org.

That's our website. And that should take you into our system of things that we do. Our telephone number should be there as well. And it should be on most of our social media platform. There should be some information about us, our telephone number, and our website access. That should be there. And we have a cash app application or platform whereby,

if you want to make a donation to our church, we'll be glad to receive it. All that is possible. And so I, you know, I think people, if anybody, want to contact us and try to be a part of what we're doing. Okay, so allah.org. Yeah. Alaw.org, yeah.

Just click that on that will take your way you need to go. There's a whole lot of stuff there, but you can find out what you need to do. Yeah, we'll put that all in the description. Yeah. We put your cash app, everything. Yeah, A-Pas, man, this has been great. Thank you for giving us your time today. Yeah.

Thank you for taking the time with me. I want you know I greatly appreciate it. I do mean that. And God bless the two of you brothers. Don't quit. What God is giving y'all biologically and what he's given to you as well as a talent is God's gift.

Don't let nobody take it away from you. Must always be the hard brothers. I don't care what any of the damn body says or does. Unless the Lord says he wants to take you up higher to some else. But y'all stay together and keep doing the work that you're doing. People are being blessed. That's what they tell me.

They're being blessed by y'all. Thank you. Thank you. And people are being blessed by you too. Trust me. God bless you, brothers. God bless you. Peace out. Peace out.