Hodgetwins Podcast - CLIP | Hodgetwins & Billy Carson Talk Moon Landing, Flat Earth & Terrence Howard...

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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What's your opinion on us going to the moon? Did we do that? I think that we went to the moon, but we lied about it. So I wrote this famous blog that got like 30 million views because I gave a lot of compelling evidence that we did go to the moon, but we lied about it while we went there and we lied about it through the video and the clips and the images.

Because when I look at that video and those clips, I was like, man, this is like a low-budget movie. Yeah, low-budget. Well, some of those clips are actually fake, and only some are real. And including the one where they have Kubrick, that's not really Kubrick. There's a famous one that's been passed around

for a long time that the director's in the scene and he's like getting harassed by somebody else about making the shot. That's also a fake too. That wasn't even Kubrick. But had a go card up there too, right? Well, yeah, they did. Yeah, they was playing golf, right? You know the golf ball?

Yeah, they did that. But a lot of the scenes where they don't have the helmet on, that's shot in Florida. And then somebody used Photoshop to map it into like a moon-like surface, but have them standing outside with no head, no helmets on. I have the original color image. So we've been there. It's just we lied about the, with the, when they sent them so low lunar orbit missions,

satellites to go check out the moon before they even, this is during the Mercury's phases. And they discovered that there was stuff up there that shouldn't be up there. The same kind of stuff they saw on Mars and the same kind of stuff we see on Earth with these ancient civilizations. They said, man, what is this stuff? We need to get our hands on it. Now, instead of telling everybody this stuff was up there,

what's the first thing any government wants to do? They want to hide it. They want to hide it because why? because knowledge is power. If they can turn this stuff into technology or weapons, they got the hand up on everybody. So they decided to create this moon mission. The race to the moon was the race to get their hands on this ancient technology

between us and Russia. We got there. They brought some of this stuff back with them. But they showed to you on the screen these crazy scenes and people on ropes and shit. Back then, but if we were in the 70s and the 60s, it looked like real sci-fi. Yeah, right.

He's like, this is great. But now we know better because we have all this incredible. We have beyond CGI now. Right, right. So it's like, that's garbage. I was looking at. How'd they fall for that? Yeah, I was looking at these old Superman movies when I was a kid.

I was looking at them nowadays comedies. It's horrible. It's horrible. Yeah. Oh, my guys. But that's what happened. So we back down to them, they were like, wow. But for us, we see right through it.

Yeah. But now, why? So I went to check out this mission called the Clementine mission that it was a the top secret mission that got declassified by the military to do a low lunar orbit and to take images and video. And as soon as I saw the name Clementine, I realized, oh, this thing never came back because the song, Clementine, you were, oh, my darling Clementine, you were lost and gone forever. And short enough, as I got through the document, I got to the point where it never came back. It crashed on the far side of the moon into something. They don't know what it was. They knew it

was going to hit something. They wanted to get that data. But they transmitted back gigs of images in In these images, you can see the most craziest anomalies, things that shouldn't be there, things that look like broken down structures, things that look like domes, things that look like some type of vehicles on the surface, what are those things doing there? So I started looking into the far side of the moon and did the astronauts ever report anything? And I got a Freedom of Information Act request on a document, which was the audio and the redacted document itself from NASA, that anyone can now download from NASA.gov. and you can hear the astronauts on the far side of the moon,

comms went down. You shouldn't be able to hear anything from them to Earth. So the comms are down, but they're talking. They're talking. It's being saved on the black box. The black box is recording them saying, somebody's hacked our comms. Can you hear that noise?

Can you hear the music? Who's playing music on our comms? Now, there's no way for Earth to communicate with them and dams sure ain't going to send them any music. This sound that they were hearing was coming from the surface of the moon, and it was freaking them out because they didn't know what the hell it was. So there's something going on. And then you have the hand radio operator recording when we did land on the moon.

And Buzz looks across the crater and he says, oh, my God, they're there and they're watching us. They're watching us. And then that was confirmed by what's this gentleman's name? He worked at NASA, Norman Berger. Norman Berger, one of the highest ranked people at NASA actually started before it was even called NASA. It was called NACA. he wrote a book called The Rings of Saturn. Anyway, he was there inside the command center

when this was all happening, and he testified on the actual show that the ship was there, and he said, eight to ten foot tall black people came out of the ship. That's scared of hell out of me. That's what he said. He said,

he got gang members of that. Listen, and pretty sure this clips been floating around online for a long time. This guy's resume goes from here all the way back to Florida where I came from. That's how big his resume. You're talking about one of the top scientists in the world. And you know, you got to be on the top to be in a room where it's top secret and to be able to see the moon landing firsthand.

And for him to say that, and he said, he was at it. So they said black people said, eight to ten for tall black people. They came out of this ship. And it was just, you know, it's weird, blown away. And Norman Bergeron. But just what I'm saying is there's a lot of stuff going on that make you go, what the hell happened, what really happened. And why is it being covered up? And I really believe that they don't want us to know about these ancient civilizations that were not only global on the planet, but interplanetary.

Right. And the ancient text talked about this war that extended from Earth to the moon all the way to Mars. And Mars just knows the god of war. There he goes right there. That's him. And that's the actual interview. There is one image there that shows black. So people with dark skin getting off?

A dark. Black. Black skin. Really black. Yeah. Were they tall? Yes. Very tall?

Yeah. How tall? Do you know? Well, they got out the, uh, the doorway, I don't know. Well, what? The same, seven, seven feet would be probably a conservative of this, isn't it? You shape ship appeared over the airport base. These cigars, uh, say, uh, say, uh, I don't know what that is, but yeah.

Yeah. So he, so he called him. He said, he said, he said, He said they were actually black. Black. Yeah. He said black. Like black people really like dark brown.

Yeah, yeah. Right, right. Right. Where over black. Where over there. Right. What's this? What is going on, Joe?

That was Saturn right there. But anyway, so, but yeah. So you see, everything I'm telling you, you can always look it up. Yeah. But so what I'm saying is, I believe that we did go to the moon, but there's a lot more to the story. And this is the reason for showing a lot of the fake footage to the general population. They had to fake it because of what they found. Because of what they found.

China made a big mistake that really confirmed what I thought. So China sent a rover to the moon about maybe seven years ago. The rover got caught up in debris and never, they were never able to retrieve it. It got stuck there, but it sent back live footage of it being stuck in this debris. Debris that wasn't left by us because they landed in the area we weren't in. So who put this debris on the moon? See? So there's a lot going on up there.

And, you know, it's going to take some time for a human race to general civilization, the population, the population, to really find out what's really going on. But because they want to monetize, capitalize, and hide and, you know, hide everything from us so that we don't really have the information because it would destroy a lot of our systems on Earth. Yeah. Put a lot of people out of work.

Oh, man, instantly. Instantly. They forget about that job. And don't drop that sermon next weekend. What do you think about these people think the earth is flat? Oh, man. They just really need to study science.

I have empathy for them, you know. Yeah. Because you can't just keep walking and you just fall off of earth. Yeah. They just need to really study the basic science. They don't understand inertia and velocity. Two basic principles in science. I mean, if you get in a car and a fly gets in the car with you and you take off and you drive

60 miles an hour on the highway, you can see the fly flying around in the car. How come it's not stuck to the back window? Right. Because the fly has picked up inertia and velocity as you're moving. The fly is because it was sitting on top of one of the window or sitting on the seat. And now it's taken off, but it's moving at a velocity. When you get into a car accident, like I was in, which destroyed this eye right here, so I got this big thing over this eye.

It was a reconstructed eyelid. You get into a car accident. I went through the windshield. Why did I go through the windshield when the car hit the other car? Inertia. I should have just stayed in my seat if it didn't exist. So they don't understand those basic principles. So they kind of try to say, well, you know, how come we're spinning at the same?

How can people stand on Earth if it's spinning at 18,000 miles an hour? Okay. Well, yeah. Standing on it. We're standing on it. What's the actor's name? He's a real good actor. Light-Skin dude.

He said, how can one plus one equals two? Terence Howard, but one times one doesn't equal two. Right, right. I had Terrence Howard on my podcast about maybe three months ago now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's really talking metaphorically. He's talking metaphorically. He's talking about we're saying science and mathematics is one way,

but we're not being courageous enough to explore other angles of the science and the mathematics. Right. We're saying what they've given us is it, and that's the end-all-be-all. What he's saying is no, we're here to stretch the limits and break it if we can so we can find new levels of science and mathematics, which he has done with his tangential flight, which I'm going to help him develop his very first flight vehicle. We're working on that project right now. And this science that he's got, from my opinion, is real. And we're going to prove it by making one of these flight vehicles.

And we'll hope to release it probably by August of this year. Wow. There'll be a small device, but using the principles that he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I know it sounds weird and crazy at first, but what he, the thing about Terrence, he's, he's a genius. And so, but sometimes he doesn't have the, he's not the greatest that's sometimes explaining himself a little bit deeper. He's limited. So, yeah, what happens if people are trying to pick up on, he's so deep. So he's saying something.

He's expecting him to get it sometimes. Right. But it's really deeper than what he's saying on the surface. Right. And me now being able to have some good conversations with him and the guy is a genius. man. He's an absolute genius. This guys got the, you know, who was the first scientist with a degree? They didn't have a degree. Right, right, right. They had to teach somebody else, but they had to break all kind of rules and laws, and they had to go against the grain and, and they had, you know, they had to,

you know, come up with these theories that people were going against, maybe want to burn him at the stake. He's in that mode right now. So right now, my mainstream science was to burn him at the, at the virtual stake for what he's saying. It was burning on the internet. It was burning him. He was on Joe Roguerre right. He had a duo now. And that guy attacked him like crazy. What I didn't like was Joe Rogan didn't even organize the conversation. I don't like how Joe Rogan allowed this guy, this white guy, to abuse him and belittle him on the actual podcast. And you're supposed to be like a moderator and be there guiding the conversation a little bit.

You're not supposed to be there allowing the bullying and even participating, in my opinion, in some ways, in the bullying and not letting him finish his statements. The thing with him is you have to have patience when he talks. So when I talk to him, I let him get to his epiphany moment. They never let him get to his epiphany moment on these podcasts. I gave him the ability to get when he gets to his epiphany moment, you go, oh, I get it now. But he's only given broken sentences, and now the whole world only hears broken sentences and never gets to see what he's really trying to say, the depth of what he's trying to say and teach. So I let him get to his epiphany moments.

Yeah. Well, let's just that one times one. That was the argument, right? That was the argument. One plus one equals two. Yeah. And what universe is one times one equals one. Yeah.

Yeah. That was the whole argument. Yeah. But what they didn't allow him to say was what he was really trying to say, the deeper meaning behind it. And, you know, it's unfortunate. But he went through that on quite a few podcasts. When he came on my podcast, I let him talk and speak. And he made a lot of sense.

And the people really said, oh, my goodness. You can read the comments. It's like, wow, now we're going to understand a lot better. So, yeah, but the man is an absolute genius. I'm just telling you, he's a genius, man. Yeah, when you think about it, I mean, we just kind of arguing about it, and we did a veil on it. I deleted it. I said, everybody's going to call me stupid.

But, okay, like, one, like, addition and subtraction have its own set of rules. Then multiplication has its own set of rules. So, but I'm looking at one, and that's one right now. Right. Times it by one, get your other bottle, right? Times it by one. And you get one again. And you get one again.

But then I know people's going to be making fun of me right now saying, You know. Yeah, what my teacher told me in school was one times one, he said you can flate in addition with multiplication. He said one time one means you eat one apple once a day. It's not like addition. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, two times two is four. Why can't one times one be two? Right. There's a new giveaway. Get out of the way. Woo! That's beautiful, right?

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